00:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:00:06 hypractvChipmunk: imo autoinscribe them with !f 00:00:24 -!- jspengler has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 00:00:25 what's !f...not quiver unless F? 00:00:38 Really fire the tomahawk of dispersal? 00:00:42 ah 00:01:14 not having them as fallback ammo works well enough i think 00:01:40 though hm, they'll still be there at the start of the game probably 00:01:48 but they wouldn't get thrown without shift-tab anyway 00:02:02 !seen bodrick 00:02:02 I last saw Bodrick at Thu Oct 8 14:46:12 2015 UTC (4d 13h 15m 50s ago) joining the channel. 00:02:16 Bodrick: yo, still working on your lighting patch? 00:03:32 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 00:03:59 oh nice, it doesn't equip them at the start 00:04:09 -!- WalrusKing has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:04:33 -!- rast has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 37.0.2/20150415140819]] 00:04:53 -!- MgDark has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 00:06:08 -!- hellmonk has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:07:13 -!- Lawman0 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:08:00 -!- exant has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:08:05 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.17-a0-2069-g0f4ee5b (34) 00:10:01 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 00:13:55 !blame3 Beogh 00:13:55 Beeeeeooooogh 00:16:24 -!- infrasho1tfoo has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:18:35 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 00:24:44 !blame2 beogh 00:24:45 bbbeeeoooggghhh 00:27:13 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 00:30:10 -!- dustinm` has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:30:11 -!- djinni has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:37:06 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 00:37:29 -!- djinni has joined ##crawl-dev 00:37:59 -!- dustinm` has joined ##crawl-dev 00:39:22 * hypractvChipmunk whimpers. 00:40:59 you'd think i'd insulted that big, fat, stupid, good-for-nothing god of theirs or something 00:41:57 -!- gammafunk has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 00:42:04 -!- SomeStupidGuy has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 00:45:04 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:45:57 * Grunt smites hypractvChipmunk! 00:49:16 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:49:28 -!- Guest7132 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:49:44 * hypractvChipmunk insults that big, fat, ugly, stupid, good-for-nothing crawldev. 00:50:01 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 00:51:25 is this correct? 00:51:26 ??curing 00:51:27 potion of curing[1/1]: Common potion that restores 5-11 health and cures sickness, poison, confusion, and rotting. Compare with {potion of heal wounds}. 00:51:36 -!- vkvd has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:51:39 prozacelf just quaffed one and healed for 8 (with Kyria's coat on) 00:51:54 likely learndb being wrong but I just wanted to mention it in case it's a possisble bug 00:52:01 maybe 1 point from natural regen too? 00:52:11 wait, no 00:52:15 that'd be the other way 00:53:24 hypractvChipmunk, it shoudl have been a minimum of 10 I guess? 00:53:43 5 + random2(7) 00:54:05 thanks, so it's definitely a bug 00:54:15 actually, you.scale_device_healing(5 + random2(7)) 00:54:22 lemme see that 00:54:37 no rot to clear, i'm assuming 00:54:49 I believe not 00:54:52 right, no rot 00:54:59 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 00:56:13 (5 + random2(7)) * 6 / 3 00:56:23 -!- luukano has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:56:29 minimum ten, ought to be 00:56:43 i can't see how it could be anything else 00:56:53 unless he took damage or something 00:58:04 he did not 00:59:23 unless div_rand_round is somehow wrong after all this time 01:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:01:20 !gameinfo ProzacElf 01:01:21 ProzacElf the L22 TeCj^Veh in Shoals:4 (cbro tiles), T:84239, runes: 2 (barnacled, gossamer), defenses: 33/24/12, stats: 17/23/18, >15 skills: Spellcasting,Conjurations 01:02:08 !lm ProzacElf x=status 01:02:08 8973. [2015-10-13 03:43:23] [status=flying quickly and evasively] ProzacElf the Devastator (L22 TeCj of Vehumet) was cast into the Abyss! (Louise) (Shoals:4) 01:02:26 that doesn't show mutations, i'm sure 01:03:10 no 01:03:29 ohhhhh 01:03:33 i had no device heal 2 01:04:00 mystery solved 01:04:11 now i can go to sleep 01:04:22 my work here...is finished 01:05:04 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.17-a0-2069-g0f4ee5b (34) 01:06:21 nice mystery, glad you found it out before I wrote the report :P 01:07:46 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 01:08:37 -!- Valarioth has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:14:13 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:14:49 -!- Zeor has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 01:17:27 -!- infrasho1tfoo has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:26:01 -!- yottam has quit [Quit: leaving] 01:27:02 -!- elliptic has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 01:27:31 -!- setecastronomy has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:30:36 -!- vale_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:36:14 -!- asdu has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:37:57 -!- sgun_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:39:52 -!- DrKe 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P0WERM0DE, XL25 CeAM, T:116281 requested for FooTV: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 09:22:19 9 royal jellies in inventory 09:22:42 tho I bet EV was painfully low 09:22:58 nice one 09:26:03 ?/gham 09:26:03 Matching terms (3): badwiki_gham_guide, gham, gham_guide; entries (5): arkane_marksperson[1] | badwiki_gham_guide[1] | gham[1] | gham_guide[1] | splint_mail[3] 09:26:10 ??gham 09:26:10 badwiki gham guide[1/1]: THE ULTYMATE RESISTANCES OF THE GHOUL COMBINED WITH POWYRFUL CLAW ATTACKS + RANGED SUPERIORITY FROM OF THE ARKANE MARKSPERSON MAKES THE GHAM THE POWER CLASS OF 0.8, 0.10, AND 0.11. GO FOR SPLINT MAIL FOR MAXIMUM PROTECTION + FLEXIBILITY // - THIS GUIDE BY SLAUGHTRO POWER CRAWLMASTER X 09:26:30 vaguely reminded me of that 09:26:59 ??gham_guide 09:27:00 badwiki gham guide[1/1]: THE ULTYMATE RESISTANCES OF THE GHOUL COMBINED WITH POWYRFUL CLAW ATTACKS + RANGED SUPERIORITY FROM OF THE ARKANE MARKSPERSON MAKES THE GHAM THE POWER CLASS OF 0.8, 0.10, AND 0.11. GO FOR SPLINT MAIL FOR MAXIMUM PROTECTION + FLEXIBILITY // - THIS GUIDE BY SLAUGHTRO POWER CRAWLMASTER X 09:27:15 ??arkane_marksperson 09:27:16 badwiki gham guide[1/1]: THE ULTYMATE RESISTANCES OF THE GHOUL COMBINED WITH POWYRFUL CLAW ATTACKS + RANGED SUPERIORITY FROM OF THE ARKANE MARKSPERSON MAKES THE GHAM THE POWER CLASS OF 0.8, 0.10, AND 0.11. GO FOR SPLINT MAIL FOR MAXIMUM PROTECTION + FLEXIBILITY // - THIS GUIDE BY SLAUGHTRO POWER CRAWLMASTER X 09:27:22 !learn del arkane_marksperson 09:27:23 Deleted arkane marksperson[1/1]: see {badwiki_gham_guide} 09:30:50 -!- st_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:34:18 haha 09:34:43 Oh SLAUGHTRO. 09:39:33 -!- rast has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:40:26 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:50:41 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 09:54:56 -!- Palyth_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:59:25 -!- Mojo_Nixon has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 10:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:01:01 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 10:07:40 -!- cojito has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 10:08:53 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:15:25 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 10:16:06 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 10:16:27 -!- argent0 has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 10:18:21 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 10:20:27 -!- Piginabag has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:23:02 -!- wheals has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:26:38 -!- Mojo_Nixon has quit [Client Quit] 10:30:41 ghoul, eh? maybe that's what I've been doing wrong.... 10:30:50 !gameinfo 10:30:51 hyperactiveChipmunk the L7 SpAM^Sif in D:7 (cszo console), T:8276, defenses: 5/18/0, stats: 7/17/15 10:31:15 No. It's a terrible guide. ;) 10:33:41 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 10:39:06 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 10:40:46 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 10:41:04 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 10:41:42 pblur: that's perfect! I'm a terrible player! 10:42:55 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 10:45:02 -!- ZChris13 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:46:31 -!- Lawman0 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:46:45 parent is a ObjectProperty instance and defaults to None. When created, the parent is set to the window itself. You must take care of it if you are doing a recursive check. 10:46:59 Core class for creating the default Kivy window. Kivy supports only one window per application: please don’t try to create more than one. 10:47:14 honestly, is all the world's code just crawlcode after all? 10:51:26 -!- tensorpudding has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:51:46 that and turtles 10:53:42 ebering: any idea why suicide() works in cases besides hyperactive ballistos? 10:55:35 wheals: crawlcode reasons? no, I didn't go digging. best guess: those other cases aren't autoexcluded and it actually doesn't 10:55:42 since the hyperactive ballistos did die properly 10:55:49 seems likely 10:56:30 second best guess: something something sequencing of melee_attack vs. enchant processing 10:57:10 always correct guess: "crawlcode" 11:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:01:46 -!- wheals has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:03:52 ebering: two things about your patch: I think ballistomycete should be added to mons_self_destructs (only matters for breaking ties in arena atm.) 11:04:21 plus I don't like using self_destructs(), I would rather just duplicate the two lines 11:05:52 maybe I don't understand the code correctly, but I think self_destructs() is supposed to be a method that gives a monster a chance to destory itself when it's attacking 11:06:02 -!- stahara has joined ##crawl-dev 11:06:44 well, instead of attacking 11:08:19 ok 11:08:36 duplicating the two lines seems most sensible 11:08:39 -!- hypractvChipmunk has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:09:31 since self_destructs has some mysterious purpose beyond what I thought it did 11:10:21 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 11:12:22 -!- setecastronomy has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:14:24 -!- filthy has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:15:28 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 11:15:52 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 11:17:34 -!- Xelif has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 11:18:16 -!- andrewhl has quit [Quit: andrewhl] 11:19:07 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 11:19:44 03Medar02 07* 0.17-a0-2070-g2a5e0a8: Fix weapon sprite displacement error in WebTiles. (#9164) 10(11 minutes ago, 1 file, 15+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/2a5e0a8a567d 11:20:21 -!- siepu has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 11:21:12 ahh, hope that's correct 11:21:35 was there really only one mantis report for that... 11:23:27 -!- Furril has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:25:16 -!- Nexos is now known as fdel 11:25:29 Medar: should hyperactives be in mons_self_destructs? 11:25:32 Wandering shrooms are not 11:26:13 hmm 11:26:31 I guess they don't self destruct so much as expire 11:26:53 but bennus are on there 11:27:06 yeah, that's different 11:27:10 ??bennu 11:27:10 bennu[1/1]: New to Tomb in 0.16. Speed 16 with holy and drain melee (like an exec without the haste). When they die they explode in ghostly flames (radius 2, damage 3d22) and insta-resurrect nearby once. Mummies are OK with tormenting Bennus. 11:28:17 -!- hypractvChipmunk has joined ##crawl-dev 11:28:57 I think hyperactives do belong there 11:29:12 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 11:29:27 pretty similar to fulminant prism in a way 11:29:37 might explode and die, or might just be killed normally before that 11:29:59 -!- stahara has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:30:05 anyway, only used for arena 11:31:11 -!- Evablue has quit [Quit: Evablue] 11:32:38 n1k: what you have discovered will lead to your latest demise 11:37:45 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 11:38:58 -!- plantmann has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:42:30 looks like POWERMODE just bit the dust again 11:43:32 -!- Saka2 has quit [] 11:44:56 bennu's sound evil 11:45:01 like, really evil 11:45:54 -!- NeremWorld has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:46:25 !lg * current br=tomb s=ikiller% 11:46:26 283 games for * (current br=tomb): 88x a greater mummy (31.10%), 27x a mummy priest (9.54%), 19x a bennu (6.71%), 16x an ancient lich (5.65%), 14x an anubis guard (4.95%), 13x a greater mummy's death curse (4.59%), 13x a sphinx (4.59%), 11x a death scarab (3.89%), 9x the fury of Okawaru (3.18%), 9x a guardian mummy (3.18%), 7x a mummy priest's death curse (2.47%), 6x a revenant (2.12%), 6x a lich ... 11:47:26 they're not that bad 11:47:29 @??bennu 11:47:29 bennu (08b) | Spd: 16 | HD: 14 | HP: 60-93 | AC/EV: 6/16 | Dam: 2708(holy), 1813(drain), 18 | evil, see invisible, fly, regen | Res: 06magic(140), 04fire+++, 03poison, 04rot, 13neg+++ | Vul: 12drown, 08holy | XP: 1286 | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 11:47:58 holy melee can be nasty if you're undead, and they do revive right next to you 11:48:05 but they don't have all that much hp 11:48:35 but I think for non-undead species they're pretty trivial 11:48:49 kind of just anti-necromutation if anything 11:49:09 !lg * status=lich 11:49:10 2324. wearedevo the Meteorologist (L27 TeCj of Sif Muna), escaped with the Orb and 15 runes on 2015-10-13 13:14:10, with 12147148 points after 135070 turns and 1d+1:51:45. 11:49:23 !lg * current ikiller=bennu / status=lich 11:49:23 4/43 games for * (current ikiller=bennu): N=4/43 (9.30%) 11:49:32 !lg * current ikiller=bennu s=crace% 11:49:33 43 games for * (current ikiller=bennu): 11x Deep Elf (25.58%), 10x Demonspawn (23.26%), 3x Vampire (6.98%), 3x High Elf (6.98%), 2x Ghoul (4.65%), 2x Tengu (4.65%), 2x Mummy (4.65%), 2x Octopode (4.65%), Human (2.33%), Gargoyle (2.33%), Minotaur (2.33%), Hill Orc (2.33%), Ogre (2.33%), Kobold (2.33%), Naga (2.33%), Vine Stalker (2.33%) 11:49:46 yeah either necromutation or undead 11:50:18 !lg * crace=mu 11:50:18 201479. Euph0ria the Magician (L7 MuWz), slain by mattinva's ghost on D:5 on 2015-10-13 15:46:45, with 695 points after 7577 turns and 0:53:29. 11:50:31 !lg * current crace!=mu|gh|vp|ds ikiller=bennu / status=lich 11:50:32 4/26 games for * (current crace!=mu|gh|vp|ds ikiller=bennu): N=4/26 (15.38%) 11:51:10 !lg * current crace!=mu|gh|vp|ds ikiller=bennu status!=lich s=char 11:51:10 22 games for * (current crace!=mu|gh|vp|ds ikiller=bennu status!=lich): 6x DECj, 2x HEWz, 2x DEFE, HEIE, HuFE, MiFi, OpCj, OpFE, OgSk, TeSu, DEWz, NaTm, HOGl, GrWr, KoAs 11:51:32 I wonder if status!=lich actually works though 11:51:51 -!- Lawman0 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:51:57 I don't know... why wouldn't it? 11:52:04 well status is a list of thigns 11:52:08 !lg * x=status 11:52:09 4745143. [status=very slightly contaminated,wreathed by umbra] Spikiii the Sneak (L5 FeEn of Dithmenos), slain by operationivy's ghost on D:4 on 2015-10-13 15:51:04, with 160 points after 3817 turns and 0:16:09. 11:52:16 hmmm 11:52:27 !lg * status~~lich status!=lich 11:52:27 No games for * (status~~lich status!=lich). 11:52:32 ok so probably does 11:52:32 -!- sanka has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:52:37 !lg * current crace!=mu|gh|vp|ds ikiller=bennu status~~lich s=char 11:52:39 Gotcxha 11:52:41 Sure 11:52:52 !lg * current crace!=mu|gh|vp|ds ikiller=bennu status~~lich s=char 11:52:53 4 games for * (current crace!=mu|gh|vp|ds ikiller=bennu status~~lich): TeWz, VSMo, DEFE, DECj 11:53:20 was wondering since those dead chars without lich are all mages 11:53:23 Their melee isn't bad for somthing fast 11:53:29 Right 11:53:47 But they're multi-attack hurts EV builds more than AC builds 11:54:00 And mages tend to be EV 11:54:08 well not most extended mages 11:54:24 they might have higher ev but most don't do actually low ac 11:54:47 but these chars might be doing tomb very early, etc 11:55:08 !lg * won class=Cj 11:55:09 1259. wearedevo the Meteorologist (L27 TeCj of Sif Muna), escaped with the Orb and 15 runes on 2015-10-13 13:14:10, with 12147148 points after 135070 turns and 1d+1:51:45. 11:55:17 Is there any way to query AC? 11:55:23 x=ac 11:55:26 and you can filter by ac 11:55:30 !lg * won class=Cj urune >=6 11:55:31 441. wearedevo the Meteorologist (L27 TeCj of Sif Muna), escaped with the Orb and 15 runes on 2015-10-13 13:14:10, with 12147148 points after 135070 turns and 1d+1:51:45. 11:55:39 !lg * won class=Cj urune >=6 / ac 11:55:40 No keyword 'ac' 11:55:47 er no 11:55:48 x=ac 11:55:53 you're not looking for a ratio 11:55:54 !lg * won class=Cj urune >=6 x=ac 11:55:55 441. [ac=22] wearedevo the Meteorologist (L27 TeCj of Sif Muna), escaped with the Orb and 15 runes on 2015-10-13 13:14:10, with 12147148 points after 135070 turns and 1d+1:51:45. 11:56:06 that's somewhat low even for a 15-runer 11:56:14 !lg * won class=Cj urune>=6 x=ac 11:56:15 441. [ac=22] wearedevo the Meteorologist (L27 TeCj of Sif Muna), escaped with the Orb and 15 runes on 2015-10-13 13:14:10, with 12147148 points after 135070 turns and 1d+1:51:45. 11:56:23 OK, how can I get multiple entries? 11:56:26 !lg * won urune=15 cls=cj recent x=avg(ac) 11:56:27 128 games for * (won urune=15 cls=cj recent): avg(ac)=28.27 11:56:31 yeah 28 11:56:39 Sure 11:56:43 that's average over all 15-rune cj 11:57:21 !lg * won urune=15 cls=cj|IE|FE|VM|EE|AE recent x=avg(ac) 11:57:22 588 games for * (won urune=15 cls=cj|IE|FE|VM|EE|AE recent): avg(ac)=34.12 11:57:28 Interesting. 11:57:55 by then you have all the xp in the world, so why not enchant/wear armour and train armour skill 11:58:15 !kw mage 11:58:15 No keyword 'mage' 11:58:26 hrm, there's probably a good kw for all the mage clases 11:58:33 ??userdef 11:58:33 userdef[1/1]: https://loom.shalott.org/userdef.html 11:58:37 !kw caster 11:58:38 No keyword 'caster' 11:58:54 ah 11:58:56 !kw book 11:58:56 Keyword: book => AE|AM|Cj|EE|En|--FE|IE|Ne|Su|Tm|VM|Wr|Wz 11:59:02 heh 11:59:04 Sure 11:59:05 not what I want though 11:59:10 But why --FE? 11:59:17 felid 11:59:46 ah 11:59:48 sure 11:59:58 Doesn't look like there's a caster one 12:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:00:10 Or at least, it doesn't include Cj it it does exist 12:01:05 !kw mage AE|Cj|EE|--FE|IE|Ne|Su|Wz 12:01:06 Defined keyword: mage => AE|Cj|EE|--FE|IE|Ne|Su|Wz 12:01:19 vm? 12:01:31 !kw mage AE|Cj|EE|--FE|IE|Ne|Su|VM|Wz 12:01:31 Defined keyword: mage => AE|Cj|EE|--FE|IE|Ne|Su|VM|Wz 12:01:43 !lg * mage urune=15 won x=avg(ac) 12:01:43 2452 games for * (mage urune=15 won): avg(ac)=19.09 12:01:54 OK 12:02:00 !lg * mage urune=15 won x=avg(ac) current 12:02:01 453 games for * (mage urune=15 won current): avg(ac)=34.09 12:02:03 there we go 12:02:10 yeah ac wasn't a field in older version 12:02:11 s 12:02:17 I guess mages back when got less AC for amoe reason? 12:02:17 !lg * !mage urune=15 won x=avg(ac) current 12:02:18 1461 games for * (!mage urune=15 won current): avg(ac)=45.13 12:02:20 Ahhh 12:02:35 !lg * mage urune=15 won x=avg(ac) ac>0 12:02:35 1388 games for * (mage urune=15 won ac>0): avg(ac)=33.72 12:02:44 another way to deal without without removing all older games 12:02:53 !lg * mage urune=15 won x=avg(ev) recent 12:02:53 830 games for * (mage urune=15 won recent): avg(ev)=30.53 12:02:58 !lg * !mage urune=15 won x=avg(ev) recent 12:02:59 2479 games for * (!mage urune=15 won recent): avg(ev)=29.59 12:03:16 30/30 defenses on average, so pretty solid 12:03:20 Yeah 12:03:24 but yeah melee chars still have better ac/gdr 12:03:45 Medar: uploaded a new version of the patch 12:03:47 I'd not consider bennu melee for not-undead to be much of a problem for 30/30 though, esp since you have unlimited haste by then 12:03:58 So probably the guys who died to bennu were trying for third-rune tomb or something 12:04:33 !lg * current crace!=mu|gh|vp|ds ikiller=bennu status!=lich s=urune 12:04:33 22 games for * (current crace!=mu|gh|vp|ds ikiller=bennu status!=lich): 7x 4, 3x 3, 2x 9, 2x 2, 2x 14, 5, 11, 10, 15, 8, 6 12:04:40 Yeah 12:04:56 A lot of 3rd-5th runes 12:06:15 -!- SurpriseTRex has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 12:06:23 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Quit: Connection reset by pier.] 12:06:24 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 12:07:35 They thought they could catch a beak and get an early-bird rune. Seems they only flew right into the caws of death. 12:08:28 *groans* 12:11:19 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:13:08 -!- infrasho1tfoo has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:13:43 -!- Almacia has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:18:06 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:23:11 -!- cojito has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:25:34 -!- tensorpudding has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 12:31:45 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 12:33:49 -!- Gorgo_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 12:35:29 -!- dtsund has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:36:42 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 12:37:19 -!- cojitoo has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:39:11 -!- cojito has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:40:56 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 12:41:11 -!- siepu has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:44:12 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:49:59 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:52:01 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 12:55:47 ebering: Medar: i think it's best if self_destructs is changed to be a utility method (and returns void), and then the caller in melee_attack would check mons_self_destructs before calling it 12:56:48 -!- Evablue has quit [Quit: Evablue] 12:57:47 should be renamed to self_destruct then, but sure that would work 12:58:04 -!- zarath9 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:58:12 of course bennu would have to be removed from mons_self_destructs and could no longer win arena battles by dying 12:59:32 which seems reasonable to me, since unlike the other monsters there they do have methods of attacking besides blowing up 13:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:01:19 assuming they still win if they respawn after blowing up 13:02:26 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 13:05:30 -!- BlackGyver has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:08:19 -!- SurpriseTRex has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:09:50 sure, I'll apply ebering's patch tomorrow(ish) and then refactor like that 13:10:04 -!- hypract57 has joined ##crawl-dev 13:11:16 -!- hypract98 has joined ##crawl-dev 13:11:44 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.17-a0-2070-g2a5e0a8 (34) 13:12:06 -!- hypractvChipmunk has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:14:06 -!- hypract57 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:19:59 -!- argent0 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:21:41 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 13:25:28 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 13:28:35 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 13:28:48 -!- GauHelldragon2 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:30:05 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 13:34:29 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 13:36:25 gammafunk, you'll never take me alive 13:41:53 heh 13:42:18 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 13:43:00 n1k: is that why your characters keep dying 13:43:12 oooh 13:45:25 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:46:11 -!- KurzedMetal has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:46:38 -!- WildSam has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:48:24 -!- hypract98 is now known as hypractvChipmunk 13:48:30 what's the 0.17 timeline look like. i.e. did I wake back up too late to bother un-mouldering some of my longer patches or is there still time for something like multiple holinesses 13:51:37 -!- pblur has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:52:20 -!- hypract23 has joined ##crawl-dev 13:54:30 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 13:55:37 -!- hypractvChipmunk has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 13:56:04 -!- hypract23 is now known as hypractvChipmunk 13:56:48 -!- WalrusKing has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:59:11 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:59:52 -!- JellieJels has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:04:34 -!- plantmann has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:14:43 -!- hypract94 has joined ##crawl-dev 14:16:36 -!- hypractvChipmunk has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 14:17:45 -!- pintc has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:18:30 -!- hypractvChipmunk has joined ##crawl-dev 14:19:09 -!- hypract94 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 14:21:25 dunk of the month, wheals 14:22:42 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 14:22:51 -!- Lightli has joined ##crawl-dev 14:23:02 -!- henry_ is now known as henryci 14:25:13 -!- Ultraviolent4 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:29:09 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 14:31:12 -!- uJellie has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:33:14 -!- ldierk has joined ##crawl-dev 14:38:23 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 14:42:25 -!- ldierk has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 14:42:34 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:49:18 Starve (L26 MiTm) ERROR in 'dbg-scan.cc' at line 556: mid cache bogosity: mid 7177 points to DEAD MONSTER mindex=34 mid=0 (Abyss:1) 15:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:00:04 -!- pblur has joined ##crawl-dev 15:00:37 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 15:01:13 -!- ldierk has joined ##crawl-dev 15:09:47 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 15:09:58 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 15:10:14 -!- filthy has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 15:14:58 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 15:17:03 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 15:20:05 -!- plantmann has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:21:40 -!- simmarine has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:21:46 -!- henryci has quit [Quit: henryci] 15:22:50 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 15:24:36 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 15:32:38 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 15:34:06 -!- WalrusKing has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:37:09 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 15:39:45 hm, monster holiness is revealed in lua now since I last rebased the multi holiness patch 15:39:54 how do bitfields get exposed to lua? 15:42:08 usually there's an interface that deals with strings 15:42:15 like you.status 15:42:38 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 15:43:48 holiness is just a number, for instance 15:44:28 so you make do something like return a lua table, but often it's just string or numeric interface 15:44:31 I'm rebasing the patch I submitted in 9375 15:44:32 -!- dtsund has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 15:44:40 which would make it an enum_bitfield 15:46:28 !bug 9375 15:46:28 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9375 15:46:37 -!- plantmann has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:47:33 probably what you'll do is something like you.status 15:47:43 you.status() returns a comma-seperated string of all status 15:47:49 -!- stanzill has quit [Changing host] 15:47:51 oki 15:47:53 and you.status("berserking") returns a boolean 15:47:59 Love is a bitfield 15:48:08 1learn add 15:48:09 > 15:49:01 you could return a lua array with applicable status as values (strings) I guess 15:49:08 but maybe we should be consistent about the interface 15:49:23 I'm not sure if there are other instances to look at though; you.status is the one that comes to mind 15:50:07 there's something pretty complicated for monster flags 15:50:08 and s/applicable status/applicable holinesses/ 15:50:13 but monster flags are considerably more general 15:51:28 well that's actually less complex than you.status 15:51:47 but it's same idea 15:51:57 just without a generic case with no argument passed 15:52:10 -!- tensorpudding has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 15:52:11 since it wouldn't make as much sense or be as useful, I guess 15:52:27 but that's going to be similar to how your holiness lua interface looks 15:52:49 thanks 15:55:31 -!- wheals has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:55:57 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 15:56:54 -!- hypractvChipmunk has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 15:58:37 -!- hypractvChipmunk has joined ##crawl-dev 16:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:00:21 Hey, I'm trying to create a patch for the transformation size thing I was talking about the other day, following alex'sinstructions on the forum. 16:00:38 But it seems to be missing a step; how do I create a branch of the crawl source to work on? 16:00:48 are you using git? 16:00:58 git checkout -b mybranchname 16:01:06 assuming you have the repo cloned 16:01:11 I'm trying to do it online 16:01:20 In github 16:01:23 er, what's the nature of this change? 16:01:35 sounds like something you might need to compile 16:01:50 "What's the nature of change?" -- gammafunk, Zen master. 16:02:02 It might be; but most of my code edditing time is in slow minutes at work 16:02:27 It's making transformations modify player size instead of setting it 16:02:30 Lasty_: If a death cob strikes in the forest, does anyhone hunger? 16:02:37 And yeah, I'll need to compile and test it at home 16:02:44 Only Pan 16:02:57 gammafunk: presumably the trees. 16:03:48 Yeah that's going to be somewhat painful; I suppose if you'd like the github interface since it can record commits 16:04:02 Not sure if github has an interface for making a branch 16:04:08 -!- elderviii has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:04:25 ah 16:04:33 pblur: in your forked repo, click branches 16:04:38 or the branch button 16:04:47 then it says in the text box "Find or create a branch" 16:04:48 Gotcha 16:04:53 so I think you can just type a new one 16:05:13 -!- zero_one has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 16:05:35 yeah and of course now that I've made a test one I can't delete it on github it seems 16:05:48 of course 16:05:50 finally, players get their wish that we only add things, never remove them 16:05:56 lololol 16:06:01 No more stupid remove! 16:06:06 !cheers onget 16:06:07 * Sequell slides a pint of lager across the bar to onget, courtesy of pblur. 16:07:08 looks like you can delete files/folders at least 16:07:21 so yeah you could make edits online, and see what they actually do when you get home :) 16:08:14 hrm 16:08:22 !cmd ._. .echo ._. 16:08:22 Defined command: ._. => .echo ._. 16:08:25 ._. 16:08:25 ._. 16:08:27 welp 16:08:31 !cmd -rm ._. 16:08:32 Deleted command: ._. => .echo ._. 16:08:39 haha 16:08:40 .__. 16:08:54 beem keeps seeing ._. as a query when people type that 16:09:15 make it respond with ._. 16:09:18 beam& beem 16:09:30 I could do that with that command I just deleted 16:09:52 ??goodcode 16:09:52 goodcode[1/12]: beem.is_beam = false 16:09:56 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 16:10:07 ??beem[3 16:10:08 beem[3/4]: Courtesy of gammafunk 16:10:10 ??beem[4 16:10:10 beem[4/4]: beem-nado: ultra-secret new project that is a real game-changer this time 16:10:31 !learn set beem[4] see {goodcode[1]} 16:10:31 beem[4/4]: see {goodcode[1]} 16:10:32 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 16:10:34 ??beem[4 16:10:34 goodcode[1/12]: beem.is_beam = false 16:10:48 ??beem 16:10:48 beem[1/4]: beem is a WebTiles chat bot that relays irc commands to Sequell, Gretell, and Cheibriados. If beem is watching a game you're spectating, just type irc commands for these bots in WebTiles chat. It's being tested on cszo and will autojoin the non-idle game with the most spectators if it's not watching anyone. 16:10:56 ??beem[2 16:10:56 beem[2/4]: Hi Lasty_! I will listen to you! 16:11:02 oh boy! 16:11:15 Finally, the friend I've always wanted 16:11:16 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 16:11:27 the "cloying greeting" feature was removed, sadly 16:11:36 1learn add 16:11:43 cloying_greeting=always 16:12:30 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 16:15:10 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 16:18:23 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 16:19:28 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 16:20:58 -!- MakMorn has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 16:23:23 -!- Piginabag has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:23:35 -!- MakMorn has joined ##crawl-dev 16:30:31 -!- Lawman0 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:36:26 -!- Poroso is now known as kiorost 16:39:50 -!- kiorost is now known as Poroso 16:45:38 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 16:46:25 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:50:22 -!- poij has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:58:42 -!- Krakhan has quit [Changing host] 17:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:03:41 -!- Lawman0 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:03:46 -!- Vizer has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 17:06:11 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 17:06:11 mmmm rebasing a 10 month old complicated patch 17:06:49 really good motivation to work on my thesis instead 17:07:17 -!- Ququman has joined ##crawl-dev 17:08:04 -!- lobf has quit [Client Quit] 17:10:15 PhD in Rougeology 17:10:19 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 17:10:25 Rouge? 17:10:46 gammafunk the cosmetologist 17:10:59 which skill title is that again? 17:11:05 Aesthetics 17:12:26 -!- gressup has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:17:02 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 17:19:42 i like ABIL_MAKHLEB_LESSER_SERVANT_OF_MAKHLEB 17:19:51 just in case you thought it was ABIL_MAKHLEB_LESSER_SERVANT_OF_THE_SHINING_ONE 17:20:12 -!- FiftyNine has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 17:30:11 we're paid by the keystroke 17:30:30 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 17:30:31 well it makes some sense, right? because it's called lesser servant of makhleb to the player 17:30:46 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 17:30:50 yeah it's just following the enum form 17:31:18 -!- lobf has quit [Client Quit] 17:31:21 you could argue for renaming it in-game as well 17:31:33 since it's not likely to be confusing to the player in that sense 17:31:43 ABIL_MAKHLEB_CRAPPY_DEMON ABIL_MAKHLEB_OKAY_DEMON 17:31:56 man if a greater servant is merely ok to you 17:32:04 well maybe you just don't deserve a demon 17:33:28 well if it's lesser servant then maybe I think it's a bikeshed builder and not a demon 17:33:43 gammafunk: maybe i was proposing those as two possible renames for lesser demon 17:34:52 -!- Stendarr has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 17:35:50 -!- Voker57 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:36:16 I just don't know that I can believe any more that you really love demons, amalloy 17:37:20 lesser servant is just....a waiter? 17:37:40 this just in, GF thinks waiters are basically slaves 17:38:12 no no! 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KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 18:59:59 -!- ldierk has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:00:16 -!- Vidiiot has quit [] 19:05:09 -!- MgDark has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 19:05:14 -!- MgDark__ is now known as MgDark 19:06:29 -!- tealeaves has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 19:07:05 -!- MgDark_ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 19:13:55 -!- AngryTeapot has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:20:23 -!- shrinkshooter has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:21:14 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 19:26:55 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 19:43:42 -!- Palyth_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:50:17 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 19:55:07 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:58:02 enum_bitfields would be much easier to expose to lua if there was a stringinfication a la mi-flags done somewhat automatically by them 19:58:10 but that refactor is beyond the scope of what I feel like doing 19:59:23 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 19:59:26 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 19:59:39 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:01:23 -!- predator117 has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 20:02:43 -!- Ququman has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:03:08 -!- Lawman0 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:05:34 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 20:07:46 -!- Vizer has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20:07:52 well that file is autogenerated, I saw 20:08:52 yea it's auto-generated from the enum 20:09:05 but there are other places I'd like to use a canonical name 20:09:25 like, now that holiness doesn't leak spellbook info it can be displayed in the mon-info screen 20:09:34 etc. 20:10:11 well can't you just adapt something like gen-mi-enum 20:10:24 to make autogen a header 20:10:55 oh actually there just aren't any of them anyhow 20:11:00 s/any/many/ 20:11:20 -!- Evablue has quit [Quit: Evablue] 20:11:33 oh I guess you don't have a data structure with this 20:11:44 you just have enum values and maybe some lookup function? 20:11:50 yeah 20:11:55 I haven't looked at your patch in detail 20:12:19 it turns holiness into an enum_bitfield like spell school 20:13:00 I guess I could just put something in mon_info or mon_util 20:13:03 yeah but I mean in terms of how you're getting a canonical name 20:13:39 like spell_school_long_name orwhatever that function is 20:14:03 I think I'll do that 20:16:40 -!- kreedzfreak has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20:25:42 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:30:13 -!- lobf has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 20:30:38 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 20:31:05 also you devs let an information leak in 20:31:12 oh no, I guess you didn't 20:31:46 exposing holiness in lua isn't an information leak in current trunk. it's just lies 20:37:15 -!- Kramell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:39:04 -!- Kramell has quit [Excess Flood] 20:40:44 -!- debo has quit [Quit: orb spiders :(] 20:43:42 -!- amalloy has joined ##crawl-dev 20:54:17 03hypractvChipmunk02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/118 * 0.17-a0-1920-ga7c4186: Remove options. Minor rewrite for a better no-configuration interface. 10(10 minutes ago, 6 files, 48+ 79-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/a7c4186f96e1 20:55:40 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 20:56:34 -!- PollenGolem has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:02:39 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 21:02:42 -!- Ladykiller70 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:04:27 New branch created: pull/145 (1 commit) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/145 21:04:27 03hypractvChipmunk02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/145 * 0.17-a0-2071-g65b3faa: Allow selection of visible layers with '|'. 10(3 weeks ago, 3 files, 121+ 41-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/65b3faa69098 21:04:33 !source attack.cc:1654 21:04:34 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/attack.cc#l1654 21:05:09 am i correctly interpreting this to mean that, when the player is struck by a venom-branded weapon, the amount of poison damage you take is 6 + 1d8 + (on average) 75% of the physical damage done? 21:05:55 this was a message i saw early in my game, having taken zero damage so far: The goblin hits you but does no damage. You are lethally poisoned! You are lethally poisoned (13 -> -3) 21:06:46 which should be impossible 21:07:31 unless the estimated damage calculates something different 21:08:59 -!- Lightli has joined ##crawl-dev 21:09:34 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:10:43 the damage done might be calculated before AC, i dunno 21:10:50 in which case, maybe he did 3 damage to me but my AC blocked it all 21:11:54 !set ebering ebering patches: 9375 monster holiness as a bitfield 21:12:13 !learn set ebering ebering patches: 9375 monster holiness as a bitfiel 21:12:14 ebering[1/1]: ebering patches: 9375 monster holiness as a bitfiel 21:12:27 !learn set ebering ebering patches: 9375 monster holiness as a bitfield 21:12:28 ebering[1/1]: ebering patches: 9375 monster holiness as a bitfield 21:12:54 ok that's rebased to current trunk and adds clua support 21:13:06 I don't remember the verdict on it last time but I think it was just too close to 0.16 21:13:26 so judging by the calendar this should be jsut in time to be too close to 0.17 21:15:48 !learn add lasty_to_do[1 see about adding sacrifice level to Ru sac description 21:15:48 lasty to do[1/9]: see about adding sacrifice level to Ru sac description 21:16:06 !learn add lasty_to_do[1 move always-open-ability-menu to a config option 21:16:06 lasty to do[1/10]: move always-open-ability-menu to a config option 21:18:23 Lasty: are you saying we'll be able to tell how much ru will appreciate our specific disfigurement? 21:19:10 if so, that's great; I played him twice and i couldn't figure out why one time he loved me after one sac, and the other time he was still all "meh" after like four 21:20:44 hypractvChipmunk, now you get a message, e.g., "this is a major sacrifice" when you select the specific sac and are asked to confirm making it 21:20:58 Lasty: I think I'll want [1] when I start playing trunk. So consider my needs when prioritizing your todo 21:21:21 this is a choko sacrifice 21:22:09 that is fantastic 21:22:10 hehe 21:30:22 -!- jcd748 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:36:11 -!- mamgar has quit [Quit: Exit Stage Left] 21:37:33 -!- Final has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:42:27 -!- pintc has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:42:31 gammafunk: I always do 21:51:04 -!- argent0 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 21:53:59 tyvm 22:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:01:19 hey gammafunk, first pass at this: 22:01:24 http://sprunge.us/SRNd 22:02:45 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 22:02:57 -!- tealeaves has quit [Client Quit] 22:03:19 cool 22:03:36 -!- Turgor has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:04:29 i hate to ask this, but have you guys ever considered maybe rewriting the build system? 22:05:53 instead of using make? 22:09:17 well i had hacked together a simple cmake frontend to do my basic builds...if there was interest, i could incorporate the rest of the features in the makefiles and do a proper version of it 22:09:55 i just didn't know how attached the dev team was to their megamakefile 22:12:53 burn it. 22:12:56 <.< 22:13:01 let it end in hellfire. 22:13:22 hypractvChipmunk: the thing about refactoring makefiles is like...it's an expensive and risky project with no obvious upside. it takes a bunch of time to do, even if someone is excited to do it, and when you're "done" it's very hard to prove that you haven't accidentally removed some essential but rarely-used feature 22:13:28 on a more serious note there's been some hand-wringing about this in the past, mainly on the note of "what will we replace it with? will it be portable?" 22:14:21 absolute best-case, you get a smaller makefile that does exactly the same thing as the current one; it will gradually accumulate cruft as more features/needs are added, and eventually someone will want to replace the new one too 22:14:32 !send amalloy cruft 22:14:32 Sending cruft to amalloy. 22:15:46 well, I've done it professionally for several truly enormous projects; it would at least be less expensive and risky for me 22:16:50 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 22:18:09 either way, i'll maintain my own...if it gets to a state that it seems like it'd be useful to others, i'll post it up somewhere for you to look at 22:18:18 Grunt: curious, do you need kmons ge instead of just using MONST and 1? 22:18:34 with like a subst on e as a glyph to 1 22:18:36 i mean, it's just one file, so it's not like you'd even need to truly replace anything 22:18:41 it's a nitpick I guess 22:19:30 also I guess I was expected some kind of actual ice specialty to the ice end 22:19:35 maybe I need to read it more carefully 22:20:38 also probably s/shoal_garden/shoals_garden/ 22:23:06 maybe you could do freeze brand on weapons; I suppose rc is pretty easy to obtain for chars on A:$ so it might end up being less dangerous overall 22:23:18 -!- Gorgo_1 has quit [Client Quit] 22:23:30 as opposed to random brands ; maybe penetration javs 22:23:35 gammafunk: I'm being lazy and pulling syntax from other vaults <.< 22:23:44 specifically the other endings 22:23:56 yeah not like we can't clean up any of that post merge anyhow 22:24:06 freeze brands is a good idea; I was trying to figure out the best way to get some kind of ice enemy there 22:24:13 man those gardens; wonder how that will play 22:24:15 ice beasts too weak for that point in the game 22:24:20 want to know how they play? 22:24:25 brutal I'm guessing 22:24:27 !lg * map~~grunt_orc_garden 22:24:28 205. Yermak the Unseen (L14 OpAs of Cheibriados), mangled by an orc warrior (a +0 trident) (led by Saint Roka) on Orc:4 (grunt_orc_garden) on 2015-10-04 19:23:15, with 52535 points after 9552 turns and 1:55:30. 22:24:39 oh you merged this? 22:24:43 ha, no 22:24:49 oh orc hah 22:24:57 grunt_shoal[s]_garden is literally grunt_orc_garden rethemed a bit <.< 22:25:06 I had the idea and then I realised "hey, I've done this before" 22:25:10 yeah I mean as someone who has to deal with underleved chars in A:$ a lot 22:25:21 it's all about the "disint one tile of a hut" strat 22:25:32 and that's not going to fly there; all those m will wake up when you come into los 22:25:35 the ice end is meant to thwart that a bit 22:25:40 you're guaranteed to see enemies before you see the rune 22:25:51 well..hrm let me look at that subst 22:26:05 well, I guess you could dig in directly horizontally or vertically, but you still get enemies leaking out that way 22:26:13 -!- Gorgo_ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 22:26:36 well it's not about a perfect entry 22:26:44 but like having enemies pour out of basically one spot 22:26:47 is all you need 22:26:55 and I think that'll still happen with ice 22:27:04 since you can just dig diagonal 22:27:15 anyone leaking up at a different area arrives when it's all over 22:27:21 *leaking out 22:27:29 but yeah that layout it is certainly fine 22:27:37 s/it is/is/ 22:27:48 more porous is basically better for killing the player 22:27:53 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:29:00 yeah I guess it'd be cool if the ice theme somehow extended beyond "just visuals" but clouds are out, and there aren't a lot of monster candidates 22:29:07 maybe you could selective give some freeze brands 22:29:16 freeze impalers 22:29:35 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 22:29:38 oh I know 22:29:41 elemental wellsprings 22:29:45 >_> 22:29:48 !glaciate gammafunk 22:29:48 Grunt points at gammafunk and mumbles some strange words. Grunt conjures a mighty blast of ice! The great icy blast engulfs gammafunk! 22:30:04 shard shrikes <_< 22:30:29 I mean if you placed just *one*... 22:30:29 !singularity gammafunk 22:30:30 Grunt gestures wildly while chanting. Space collapses on itself with a satisfying crunch. The singularity violently warps gammafunk! 22:30:42 we need an end with an opc 22:30:42 I could get away with placing a frost giant 22:30:47 heh, yeah 22:30:56 there is that one shoals giant vault 22:31:12 -!- WalrusKing has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:31:13 kraken simulacrums 22:31:26 ! 22:31:32 how did I forget to place a kraken here 22:31:34 <.< 22:34:33 oh man, I didn't even realized MONS: faun / 0 would work 22:34:41 not sure why I didn't I guess 22:38:58 03hypractvChipmunk02 07* 0.17-a0-2071-g65b3faa: Allow selection of visible layers with '|'. 10(3 weeks ago, 3 files, 121+ 41-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/65b3faa69098 22:38:58 03wheals02 07* 0.17-a0-2072-g8d4e3f9: Merge pull request #145 from stahara/viewlayers-rebase 10(9 seconds ago, 0 files, 0+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/8d4e3f9e8e14 22:39:26 gammafunk: because you can't divide by 0 22:39:34 !glaciate wheals 22:39:34 Grunt casts a spell at wheals. Grunt conjures a mighty blast of ice! The great icy blast engulfs wheals! 22:40:57 gammafunk: http://sprunge.us/OPcJ 22:41:28 wheals: <3 22:42:04 Grunt: damn, that's cold 22:43:13 !send wheals a kraken simulacrum 22:43:13 Sending a kraken simulacrum to wheals. 22:45:11 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 22:45:33 ugh 22:46:19 * wheals wishes templates played well with default parameters 22:50:51 -!- jspengler has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:52:15 or at least that i understood why they don't 22:55:52 yessss 22:56:08 now cocytus won't be the only place the player sees kraken simulacra 22:56:36 I am worried that the garden end will be just brutal 22:56:42 but I guess weight can solve that problem 22:56:56 hrm, wonder how noise will affect this 22:57:23 -!- wheals has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:57:24 -!- Pisano2 has quit [] 22:57:31 oh well I guess there are much fewer monsters most huts 22:58:17 oh and it's fauns, hrm 22:58:33 well half-fauns half-shoals 22:58:41 -!- zero_one has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:59:21 I'll have to make a shoals end featuring an opc in the rune vault 22:59:34 and actually do it, unlike certain subvaults in certain branches 23:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:00:26 opc? 23:00:48 @??octopode crusher 23:00:48 octopode crusher (08x) | Spd: 10 | HD: 16 | HP: 100-128 | AC/EV: 1/17 | Dam: 35, 1003(constrict) | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, fighter, amphibious, spellcaster | Res: 06magic(60), 12drown | XP: 2247 | Sp: iron shot (3d29), tentacle throw [11!AM, 06!sil] | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 23:01:08 i see 23:01:26 !lg * recent br=shoals s=ikiller% 23:01:27 4648 games for * (recent br=shoals): 456x a water nymph (9.81%), 394x a merfolk impaler (8.48%), 389x a merfolk aquamancer (8.37%), 389x a merfolk (8.37%), 336x a merfolk javelineer (7.23%), 290x Polyphemus (6.24%), 238x a kraken (5.12%), 191x (4.11%), 187x a harpy (4.02%), 140x a satyr (3.01%), 135x an alligator snapping turtle (2.90%), 131x a sea snake (2.82%), 119x a merfolk avatar (2.56%), 116... 23:01:48 oh they just generate so rarely, I guess 23:01:54 .crushed br=shoals 23:01:54 103. gilsham the Severer (L16 FoFi of Jiyva), thrown by an octopode crusher on Shoals:1 (cheibrodos_shoals_oceanic_diplomacy) on 2015-10-07 12:43:54, with 75973 points after 20802 turns and 1:18:02. 23:01:55 normally abbreviations like that have a learndb entry, especially for notorious monsters 23:02:42 -!- Cacophony has quit [Quit: oh no am scare] 23:03:20 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 23:06:30 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 23:10:25 .jugged 23:10:26 58. [dam=103;tdam=103] Maka the Impregnable (L24 HaFi of Okawaru), mangled by a juggernaut on Depths:3 (hangedman_slaughterboxes) on 2015-10-13 15:04:36, with 384357 points after 52598 turns and 2:43:39. 23:10:56 that's a few damage 23:11:16 presumably he was well-armored, too 23:12:00 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:14:40 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:16:14 -!- jspengler has quit [] 23:17:37 ??opc 23:17:37 I don't have a page labeled opc in my learndb. Did you mean: op, ops, orc, spc. 23:17:42 !learn add opc octopode crusher 23:17:43 opc[1/1]: octopode crusher 23:17:53 <3 23:18:47 !learn set opc see {octopode crusher} 23:18:48 opc[1/1]: see {octopode crusher} 23:18:56 ??opc 23:18:56 octopode crusher[1/1]: An {octopode} monster that can "throw" you while you're being constricted for 1d60 AC-checking, unavoidable damage. It prefers to throw you to a location near nasty monsters or open space. Also casts iron shot. 23:19:16 nice 23:21:53 !send hypractvChipmunk a kraken simulacrum 23:21:53 Sending a kraken simulacrum to hypractvChipmunk. 23:22:09 !return Grunt the kraken simulacrum 23:22:56 it's cool, man, you can keep it 23:25:19 well that was an inauspicious ending to my life 23:25:21 !log 23:25:22 398. hyperactiveChipmunk, XL7 SpAM, T:4446: http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/hyperactiveChipmunk/morgue-hyperactiveChipmunk-20151014-032413.txt 23:25:31 * hypractvChipmunk weeps silently in the corner. 23:32:25 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 23:40:30 -!- Lasty_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:44:43 03Grunt02 07* 0.17-a0-2073-gde5cdba: Two Shoals endings. 10(7 minutes ago, 1 file, 162+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/de5cdba28185