00:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:00:29 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 00:01:14 hahaha 00:01:44 i bashed it out to get onto this slow healing rename 00:01:46 as written it seems to make your AC bonus from bucklers of protection scale with your fighting skill, amusingly 00:02:23 <|amethyst> amalloy: it compiles? 00:03:23 so wait 00:03:28 does that mean that you're giving the protection brand 00:03:30 !glasses 00:03:31 ( •_•)    ( •_•)>⌐■-■    (⌐■_■) 00:03:32 a fighting chance 00:03:46 is the shield part even necessary 00:03:56 i figured "why not" 00:04:28 mages would wear a protection buckler if such things were not vanishingly rare, I think 00:04:44 more common than other ego bucklers 00:05:14 i dont think sky shields are a problem though 00:06:16 also brand should probably be renamed to something else to avoid the confusion with rings 00:06:49 Ring of Armour 00:07:00 03chequers02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/123 * 0.17-a0-1947-g2e2b2ab: Scale protection brand with weapon/shield skill. 10(14 hours ago, 1 file, 4+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/2e2b2ab21eaa 00:07:00 New branch created: pull/124 (1 commit) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/124 00:07:00 03chequers02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/124 * 0.17-a0-1947-g0866cdf: Rename 'slow healing' to 'slow regeneration'. 10(14 hours ago, 9 files, 42+ 42-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/0866cdfe242a 00:08:26 <|amethyst> chequers: I see one typo, "You regeneration slowly" 00:09:32 -!- rax has joined ##crawl-dev 00:09:41 fixed 00:09:59 once again, I regret my laziness in setting upccache 00:10:34 -!- vkvd has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:10:52 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:11:05 ccache is super easy to set up, assuming the install is easy 00:11:05 how can I use ccache for only crawl compiles 00:11:15 since it's just path modification once it's installed 00:11:29 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 00:11:53 you modify path to put the ccache bin dir at the beginning 00:12:06 03chequers02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/124 * 0.17-a0-1947-ga0b9854: Rename 'slow healing' to 'slow regeneration'. 10(14 hours ago, 9 files, 42+ 42-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/a0b985402ea1 00:12:09 so your cc/gcc calls its wrapper 00:12:11 makes sense, lets give it a whirl 00:12:12 so you'd do that only in the evn of the crawl build 00:12:33 |amethyst probably has more specific advice, although you're not using dgl 00:12:39 (he'd still have better advice) 00:12:48 <|amethyst> I don't use dgl here 00:12:56 <|amethyst> but I use ccache for everything, so 00:13:27 -!- read has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:13:36 <|amethyst> it does seem like simplest is what gammafunk says, set your path in your crawl build script 00:13:51 -!- read has joined ##crawl-dev 00:14:09 <|amethyst> or if it's just the command line, PATH=whatever:$PATH make blah 00:14:13 I found a larger cache size than the default was helpful 00:14:19 <|amethyst> yeah 00:14:20 but I'm also using it for everything 00:14:42 really? wow I dropped it to 1g 00:14:49 <|amethyst> mine is 14G 00:14:52 <|amethyst> that's mostly crawl 00:14:56 I assumed the cached objects would be strictly smaller than the final binary 00:15:48 -!- gressup has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 00:15:54 <|amethyst> times the number of branches and the number of old version you build etc 00:16:01 <|amethyst> s/version/versions/ 00:16:20 -!- mong has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:16:41 yeah I have three crawl repos and change branches in my main one 00:16:43 <|amethyst> probably 1GB would be fine if you work on a single branch and don't bisect very often 00:16:52 <|amethyst> well 00:17:03 ok wow yeah, that's nice 00:17:15 21.5mb cache per build 00:17:15 <|amethyst> also, use the same compile flags each time 00:17:34 ahh... it won't cache very effectively between branches, damn 00:17:40 hrm, is it path based; will it retain objects when I switch branches withing a repo? 00:17:43 you change ONE header and half the files are different 00:17:59 <|amethyst> gammafunk: it is based on the hash of the preprocessed source 00:18:01 I though it just hashed the input file 00:18:03 nice 00:18:16 <|amethyst> well 00:18:22 <|amethyst> preprocessed source + compiler flags 00:18:27 ok that's what I had assumed (and maybe read at one point), but wasn't sure 00:18:42 why do I get a bunch of warnings when I compile through ccache but not normally? 00:19:19 <|amethyst> ccache finding the wrong compiler version? 00:19:52 <|amethyst> oh 00:19:58 <|amethyst> I remember something about this 00:20:11 reading the manpage now 00:20:19 -!- gammafunk has quit [Quit: leaving] 00:20:26 <|amethyst> some compilers will be nice and only identify certain warnings if they appear in user code 00:20:34 <|amethyst> and not something #included with <> 00:20:42 status.cc:695:13: warning: comparison of unsigned expression >= 0 is always true [-Wtautological-compare] 00:20:45 if (!(cont >= 0)) AssertFailed("cont >= 0", "status.cc", 695); 00:20:46 -!- G-Flex has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:20:48 ~~~~ ^ ~ 00:21:25 <|amethyst> hm 00:21:39 <|amethyst> There is a _Pragma to avoid that 00:21:57 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 00:21:59 <|amethyst> #elif __GNUC__ * 100 + __GNUC_MINOR__ >= 406 00:21:59 <|amethyst> # define WARN_PUSH _Pragma("GCC diagnostic push") 00:21:59 <|amethyst> # define WARN_POP _Pragma("GCC diagnostic pop") 00:21:59 <|amethyst> # define IGNORE_ASSERT_WARNINGS _Pragma("GCC diagnostic ignored \"-Wtype-limits\ 00:22:02 <|amethyst> "") 00:22:09 <|amethyst> (same for clang) 00:22:45 <|amethyst> but for other compilers it doesn't do warning pragma, so you get that warning 00:22:45 well I'll run with ccache for a week or so and see how much time it saves 00:23:44 -!- ZChris13 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:25:11 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 00:25:41 <|amethyst> chequers: hm, with clang (which I guess you're using) we disable -Wtautological 00:25:44 <|amethyst> err 00:25:49 <|amethyst> -Wtautological-constant-out-of-range-compare 00:25:55 <|amethyst> in that specific context (asserts) 00:26:12 <|amethyst> chequers: but your error has a different Wflag 00:26:18 <|amethyst> oh 00:26:26 <|amethyst> I guess maybe we should have both 00:26:27 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.17-a0-1946-gfb768fe (34) 00:26:40 <|amethyst> but even then that doesn't explain why you didn't get the error before 00:26:50 <|amethyst> unless you had disabled asserts previously or something 00:26:57 maybe with the ccache symlinks it's picking "a different compiler" 00:27:05 <|amethyst> that's also possible 00:27:12 I just prepended /usr/local/opt/ccache/libexec to my patch which has a bunch of symlinks of popular compiler names 00:28:26 <|amethyst> could try g++ --version and (whatever is the second word in your .cflags file) --version with and without that in your path 00:29:36 heh 00:29:52 g++ --version says clang, x86_64-apple-darwin14.3.0-g++-5 --version says gcc 00:30:27 <|amethyst> and without ccache in your path? 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02:30:21 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 02:31:23 no, for a while 02:32:02 -!- pikaro has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:32:15 they'll pick up items from stacks, since the player can only see the top item 02:32:17 -!- bel_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 02:32:26 %git :/[^o]pick.*up 02:32:26 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.17-a0-1205-g9cb03a7: Make monsters indiscriminate about potions/scrolls 10(4 months ago, 3 files, 22+ 40-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/9cb03a7455dc 02:33:28 i really don't see the problem, though...it's item *destruction* that was removed from the game 02:33:57 whozitguy still steals stuff directly from your inventory, for instance 02:34:07 it's not a problem that enemies seem like they take any item, when in truth they cannot? 02:34:23 it's very non-discoverable, unlike maurice 02:35:00 to be honest, what it "seems" like is that they only pick up equipment from their fallen allies 02:35:05 i've never seen it happen any other way 02:36:03 and that's actually quite sensible 02:36:05 dorok's tomb is kind of bad about that 02:36:23 when the walls fall you can frequently walk up on guys picking up a scroll or whatever 02:37:02 hypractvChipmunk: the stack thing seems pretty clearly a bug 02:37:16 why wouldn't the orc pick up the +4 sword of electrocution to wreck you 02:37:31 chequers: shield text is probably fine, at least I don't have any better ideas 02:37:33 rchandra: since enemies can only pick up items that you don't know exist, the player doesn't have any knowledge which suggests monsters pick up items 02:37:45 oh, clearly the quirky bit of stack visibilty is surely a bug 02:38:09 i'm just arguing that it's not actually detrimental to fun 02:38:12 personally, I think monsters should probably just not pick up anything, and also it would be nice (for flavour reasons) if monsters with scrolls/potions occasionally dropped them on death 02:38:41 hypractvChipmunk: well, it's the only instance of monsters picking up items on the ground, so that seems bad 02:38:49 *visibly picking up 02:38:52 I don't have a strong view on mosnters picking up things, but having that be the only time you see it is awful 02:39:03 Medar: yeah, it's still awkward, but ditto I can't think of a way to improve 02:39:39 though I do suspect the devteam was right in finding it more tedious than interesting, before. 02:39:41 i don't see why the orc would walk over a tile with a +4 short sword of electrocution dropped by his recently-slain buddy in order to swing at you with his fists 02:40:04 ??realism 02:40:04 realism of crawl[1/11]: whacking KILLER FUCKING BEES with a halberd and throwing javelins at them 02:40:33 hypractvChipmunk: the reason for the pickup change was that previously it was really annoying that you wanted to pick anything dangerous up 02:40:40 cause they walk over it in every other case 02:42:23 yeah, you would be carrying like 50 elec and disto weapons just until you could find deep water or lava to throw them in 02:42:24 I agree though, that picking from middle stack just seems bad 02:42:38 yeah, nobody disagrees with that 02:42:52 Doesn't really improve anything, is confusing 02:42:57 that's clearly a result of shortsighted (heh) coding 02:44:59 -!- st_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:45:52 but i really like the "oh crap" situation where a weapon dropped by the guy you targeted first because it made him a threat could end up in the hands of another enemy that was previously ignorable 02:46:10 -!- vale_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:47:20 like, that's situational awareness of the fun sort, to make the player aware of all the threats on the battlefield 02:48:40 even if i didn't know anything about the game, my instinct would be to snatch away the weapon as soon as i could so another combatant couldn't pick it up and kill me with it 02:49:00 hard to keep that and not make optimal play really annoying 02:49:22 and why wouldn't you then pick up every weapon and lava them? 02:50:48 because i'm not terribly concerned about random backspawns on cleared levels; they're rarely a threat 02:51:54 but if you are really concerned, give it only a short window of time where it's "live" so that it can't be used once the fight is over 02:52:06 "five minute rule" for weapons >8D 02:52:08 and how do you tell the player this? 02:52:51 off-the wall idea: items cease to exist N turns after the player sees them 02:53:03 "Foo scoops up the enchanted greatsword dropped by the recently-dead Bar!" 02:53:26 that could work 02:53:58 knowing how long the time is would still be pretty hard 02:54:04 if that's the only sort of message the player gets that involves monsters picking up items, it's fairly obvious that it's a tactical consideration, not a strategic concern 02:54:11 you could say "until the corpse vanishes" 02:55:12 do monsters go and pick up better weapons they see? Or do they just check every square they walk over for a weapon? Do they upgrade weapon? 02:55:39 "Foo pries the enchanted greatsword from the lifeless grip of the dead Bar!" 02:55:42 I don't think there is any timelimit that wouldn't be a problem one way or the other 02:56:13 either you still have to sometimes pick them up after the fight, or you need to make decisions inside the fight based on the exact turn count 02:57:46 and of course you would want to lure that one normal orc with good weapon out before fighting the pack with knights with bad weapons etc. 03:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:01:40 well, we do have a tension measurement, right? use that instead of turn count 03:02:48 is there any usage of that has worked out well? 03:03:20 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 03:03:50 tension is suuuper spiky 03:03:59 well I don't really do gameplay things, but can't really see rules that would be easy to understand and hard to abuse 03:04:11 as long as the text describes the action as part of the flow of battle, then it wouldn't be surprising when another battle occurs on the same spot without the weapon being taken...no more surprising than it is now that monsters completely ignore perfectly good ways to kill you 03:05:18 look at it from player perspective. If monster picks up weapon in one context, why doesn't it pick up weapon in all contexts? weird and inconsistent 03:05:25 well, sounds like the tension algorithm needs work, then >8) 03:05:39 but yeah, monsters picking up items out the middle of a stack 03:05:44 right now the game is consistent (excepting bugs) 03:05:45 should probably be fixed 03:05:50 since its the only case of that 03:05:58 is there a bug report for that? 03:06:24 its easily replicated vs wights 03:06:32 but im not sure 03:06:52 unfortunately you can't just rip out all monster pick up code, since Beogh followers use it 03:07:03 might just able to able to say if !friendly, don't pick up 03:07:29 I assume you don't want to stop monsters from looting vaults, still. that can be interesting 03:07:31 and reanimated monsters use the code too, actually 03:07:42 Mi in Lab is interesting 03:08:20 yeah, he always has something from his stash 03:08:44 not if you dont wake him up 03:09:16 you have to give him a fair chance 03:09:19 he was trying to club me with a staff of summoning earlier today 03:09:43 I guess Lab minotaur is a good example that pick up logic can't detect 'best item' yet 03:10:10 well, guys do upgrade 03:10:15 i cant really understand the minotaur 03:10:22 his alternatives were staff of conjurations and rod of inaccuracy 03:11:07 even so i see bad itemisation on Mi regularly 03:11:33 -!- tensorpudding has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 03:15:47 looking at the code, the reason is that the pick up code only looks from the top of the stack, and once it's picked something up, there's a 50% chance with each next item that the monster stops looking 03:16:34 the bizarre thing is that the "known-item" exception occurs at the actual pick-up code, not the "decide to pick-up" code 03:17:10 the "decide to pick up" code actually acknowledges and has specific behavior regarding stacks 03:17:42 go crawlcode 03:17:53 yeah, really 03:18:29 also monsters pick up ammo too 03:18:52 or want to, anyway >8) 03:20:06 anyway, that explains the minotaur behavior completely 03:20:26 all depends on the stacking order 03:20:53 if there's something at the top and it's something he can bash you with, that's good enough for him 03:21:41 wonder if you can create monsters with 'acquire any' wielded weapon 03:22:40 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.17-a0-1946-gfb768fe (34) 03:22:43 i always love it when the minotaur starts using rods against me 03:23:32 monsters are the impatient sort >80 03:25:44 what, i gotta pull this vorpal battleaxe out from underneath the club? screw it, i'll take the club 03:26:31 heh 03:27:09 although it is not germane to this topic, i'm having fun smacking people with this +8 club robin had =P 03:27:17 -!- LexAckson has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:27:21 >8D 03:27:49 although really, when the minotaur digs through his stack, he really either seems to pick either useless or really good stuff 03:28:38 yeah, i don't know how it's decided what goes where in the stack 03:28:50 but that would be the determining factor 03:29:57 that one time I died in lab to a cpa-wearing mi 03:30:09 heh, yeah, but i can't remember the last time i ran into a mino that just had some mediocre stuff 03:30:35 it's like he always grabs the +6 plate and the rod of clouds or something that you were just gonna leave there anyway 03:30:43 "oh, nice wand of slowing mr minotaur" 03:31:09 although i guess there's a bit of confirmation bias at work there 03:31:28 the ones where he had an OK long sword and some scale mail or whatever are probably just not going to stick out as much 03:32:27 well, if the stuff is generated from different tables in-order, it might go 'place a medium item, place a medium item, place a medium item, place a decent item, place either a really good item or a really bad item, place a really good item or a really bad one, place a really good item 03:32:41 and there you go 03:34:41 -!- nonethousand is now known as n1k 03:34:57 also could just be good items, but some good items for the player are definitely not so for a melee powerhouse like the minotaur 03:35:15 since you gotta cater to magic-using players 03:35:15 the minotaur is still pretty dangerous with rods and wands though 03:35:31 it's kind of silly when he grabs like a staff or summoning or whatever though 03:35:44 although i had him do pretty solid damage to me with a staff of cold before 03:36:00 honestly i'm not entirely sure how monster damage is calculated for that sort of thing 03:36:12 the code could definitely use some love, though, that's for sure 03:36:25 i mean 03:36:59 -!- Menche has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:37:01 not that the same can't be said for nearly any piece of code chosen at random from the entire source tree... >8P 03:37:29 but monster pick-up is definitely very naive 03:38:35 the edge cases had clearly not manifested often enough to be significant issues 03:39:44 and the player-knowledge restriction is very clearly slapped down as a guard 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I always thought of Mnoleg as being genderless 09:23:08 Gloorx too 09:23:21 |amethyst: i meant conj_verb("guard") 09:23:37 |amethyst: since if we make one of them genderless, we'd need to make it "It guards", not "It guard" 09:23:49 <|amethyst> wheals: well, they're all singular 09:23:57 er, "They guard" 09:24:08 i mean, it needs to be what it was before 09:24:10 no? 09:24:24 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 09:24:28 do we have a section on singular they in our style guide 09:24:32 :P 09:24:48 <|amethyst> we'd use "it" for neuter monsters 09:24:50 <|amethyst> like TRJ 09:25:28 ok, so mons_pronoun would indeed be enough 09:25:43 <|amethyst> in English anyway... 09:26:07 <|amethyst> BTW, this comment confuses me every now and again 09:26:15 <|amethyst> // Use of variant (case is irrelevant here): 09:26:24 <|amethyst> // PRONOUN_SUBJECTIVE : _She_ is tap dancing. 09:26:30 <|amethyst> // PRONOUN_POSSESSIVE : _Its_ sword explodes! 09:26:44 <|amethyst> Particularly, the word "case"... 09:28:13 <|amethyst> oh, and I even wrote that comment... 09:28:31 -!- iFurril has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:29:21 03|amethyst02 07* 0.17-a0-1949-g1acca9a: Improve a comment. 10(22 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/1acca9a6485a 09:29:39 -!- siepu has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 09:31:08 <|amethyst> (I'd also prefer "PRONOUN_NOMINATIVE" or "CASE_NOMINATIVE" or something but that's just bikeshedding as long as we're English-only in the code 09:31:11 <|amethyst> ) 09:31:40 <|amethyst> PRONOUN_ERGATIVE, // support LANG_GEORGIAN and LANG_BASQUE 09:39:58 -!- syllogism_ has joined ##crawl-dev 09:42:19 -!- syllogism has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:42:56 -!- dtsund has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 09:43:06 -!- siepu_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:48:42 |amethyst: any idea about the missing win on CAO page? https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9984 09:49:20 it's in Sequell, but not on CAO 09:53:48 <|amethyst> scoring needs to be rewritten 09:54:10 ah :) 09:54:27 -!- PKrockin has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:55:00 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 09:55:04 <|amethyst> ever since I changed it to not commit after every single row (so that rebuilds would only take days, not weeks), it has dropped the occasional game when it goes down at the wrong times 09:55:36 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 09:55:37 I see 09:55:39 -!- SurpriseTRex_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:57:21 is there a reason to have different databases for Sequell and scoring? 09:57:27 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 09:57:31 <|amethyst> they run on different machines 09:57:37 <|amethyst> but, no, probably not 09:57:45 <|amethyst> well, they do have different schemas, but 09:57:51 even then, could have same implementation at least 09:57:56 <|amethyst> some of the stuff is at least similar I'm sure 09:58:27 <|amethyst> also, sequell has been getting improvements over the past several years, while scoring has not 09:58:57 <|amethyst> I would also like to see scoring, and maybe tourney, made to use sequell's db or a replicate thereof 09:59:36 sounds sensible 09:59:48 -!- SurpriseTRex__ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 10:00:26 maybe I'll try to look at scoring at some point 10:01:01 -!- ololoev has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:04:04 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 10:07:52 -!- debo has quit [Quit: orb spiders :(] 10:11:57 -!- G-Flex has joined ##crawl-dev 10:16:01 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 10:18:10 -!- omnirizon has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:26:25 -!- radinms has quit [] 10:26:36 -!- MIC132 has joined ##crawl-dev 10:26:46 -!- excalibur03 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:28:24 -!- Monkaria has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:28:36 -!- siepu_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 10:29:48 -!- Brannock has joined ##crawl-dev 10:38:51 -!- oho_hups has quit [Client Quit] 10:44:15 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:47:00 -!- siepu_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:55:09 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 10:56:08 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 11:01:14 -!- Kintak has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 11:01:52 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:02:53 -!- ldf_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:03:06 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 11:03:46 -!- Bcadren has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:05:10 -!- Bcadren_ is now known as Bcadren 11:06:19 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 11:07:35 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 11:21:08 -!- axecop has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:25:08 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:25:23 -!- tensorpudding has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:26:44 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 11:41:33 -!- MIC132 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:46:22 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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Na wearin'; Degree: 0 14:00:56 * ProzacElf blinks 14:01:09 why is that the response to me quaff-IDing cure? 14:01:22 <|amethyst> %git HEAD^ 14:01:22 07wheals02 * 0.17-a0-1948-g5ca3460: Remove debugging prints. 10(5 hours ago, 1 file, 1+ 7-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/5ca3460fccbd 14:01:41 <|amethyst> you're behind by at least two commits :) 14:01:41 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 14:01:46 heh 14:01:51 i just started this game =P 14:02:17 oh, for the device heal on robe of vines i guess? 14:02:20 <|amethyst> yeah, a plurality of servers update late night US time 14:02:49 -!- Kolbur has joined ##crawl-dev 14:02:54 <|amethyst> ProzacElf: yeah, you're not wearing the robe of vines, and your effective mutation level of no device heal is 1 14:03:02 got it 14:03:03 hello 14:03:28 this bug ( https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9843 ) was fixed but not for salamander stormcallers 14:04:02 <|amethyst> hm 14:04:13 <|amethyst> it should be, that commit added ENCH_CHANT_FIRE_STORM 14:05:06 <|amethyst> oh 14:05:17 <|amethyst> I think I had that happen to me with an entropy weaver too 14:05:22 <|amethyst> so maybe it was unfixed 14:05:51 <|amethyst> hmm 14:06:36 <|amethyst> or maybe that just made it trigger immediately upon returning 14:06:52 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 14:09:08 any reason against adding "chunks of flesh in your inventory have rotted" to default runrest ignore messages? 14:10:40 <|amethyst> Kolbur: oh 14:10:53 <|amethyst> Kolbur: I guess the fix is only relevant for long periods of time 14:11:10 <|amethyst> Kolbur: in my case I went up and then back down a few turns later, so it could well have been still chanting 14:11:11 Medar, those are ignored normally? 14:12:06 <|amethyst> Kolbur: I reopened it anyway, but some data and wizmode experiments would be nice 14:12:07 I mean currently that message stops rest/run, I would like it not to 14:12:10 <|amethyst> Kolbur: I don't have time to right now 14:12:35 |amethyst: i went upstairs, fought for a few turns and went down again, that seemes like enough time to stop the ritual 14:12:45 instead i got firestormed immediately 14:13:27 <|amethyst> hm 14:13:40 <|amethyst> I guess it is a pretty short chant usually 14:19:31 -!- pikaro has joined ##crawl-dev 14:22:31 -!- MIC132 has joined ##crawl-dev 14:28:33 -!- byrel has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:29:26 -!- Xenobreeder has joined ##crawl-dev 14:32:40 -!- MIC132_ has joined ##crawl-dev 14:32:47 -!- CacoS has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 14:33:34 -!- dtsund has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:33:39 -!- neunon has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 14:35:02 -!- MIC132 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:40:35 -!- bel_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:40:47 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 14:40:59 -!- MIC132 has joined ##crawl-dev 14:41:05 -!- Akitten_Homura has joined ##crawl-dev 14:41:27 -!- neunon has joined ##crawl-dev 14:42:31 -!- MIC132 has quit [Client Quit] 14:43:17 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 14:43:51 -!- MIC132_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 14:50:02 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 15:02:31 -!- neunon has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:07:19 -!- argent0 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:07:22 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 15:08:32 Medar: agree 100% 15:11:01 !tell wheals thanks for removing my stupid debugging prints. Sorry for leaving them in. 15:11:02 Lasty_: OK, I'll let wheals know. 15:12:31 -!- bel_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:17:03 -!- n1k has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:17:22 -!- n1k has joined ##crawl-dev 15:17:44 -!- n1k is now known as Guest83261 15:19:27 -!- bel_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 15:24:08 -!- Saka has quit [] 15:26:48 -!- mamgar has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 15:31:29 -!- ghallberg has joined ##crawl-dev 15:33:13 -!- WalrusKing_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:38:02 -!- Kolbur has left ##crawl-dev 15:43:32 -!- DrKe has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:43:43 -!- DrKe has joined ##crawl-dev 15:51:19 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:00:16 -!- Utrick has joined ##crawl-dev 16:00:22 -!- Utrick has quit [Client Quit] 16:04:22 -!- predator217 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:08:00 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 16:11:56 ??chei[1] 16:11:57 [1/10]: The Slow God! Gives piety for killing things faster than you, and slows you down as you gain piety. Chei increases your movement delay by 2+piety/20 (capped at 10) and boosts all your stats by piety/10 - 1 (capped at 15). 16:12:31 this "capped at 10" is not accurate for nagas, but i'm not sure what to replace it with. is it still just 2+piety/20 with a larger cap, or does it scale faster for nagas? 16:12:49 -!- Smello has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 16:19:45 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 16:25:46 -!- Maelson has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:34:34 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 16:36:02 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:47:19 -!- predator117 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:50:46 -!- wheals has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:53:04 -!- pblur has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:57:41 -!- Krakhan has quit [Changing host] 17:00:12 -!- Akitten_Homura has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 17:07:17 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 17:08:05 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:08:40 -!- Final has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:10:45 -!- fazisi_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:13:26 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 17:14:44 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 17:18:39 DickyLongcocking (L4 GrGl) (D:2) 17:22:30 -!- siepu has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:22:36 -!- tensorpudding has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:38:52 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 17:39:26 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 17:39:55 -!- wheals_ has joined ##crawl-dev 17:41:59 -!- Wolfe_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:42:13 -!- wheals has quit [Disconnected by services] 17:42:15 -!- wheals_ is now known as wheals 17:42:41 Medar: could you set my CXC account as a developer? 17:42:42 wheals: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 17:42:48 !messages 17:42:49 (1/1) Lasty_ said (2h 31m 47s ago): thanks for removing my stupid debugging prints. Sorry for leaving them in. 17:42:57 good thing i never make mistakes! 17:43:14 ??epic bugs[21 17:43:15 epic bugs[21/25]: shit I think there's no way to actually fix this bug wheals accidentally converted all ego weapons into holy wrath weapons 17:43:39 -!- MgDark has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:43:57 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 17:44:16 -!- andrewhl has quit [Quit: andrewhl] 17:50:37 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 17:53:02 -!- agentgt has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:54:01 -!- andrewhl has quit [Client Quit] 17:55:48 -!- Voker57 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:56:35 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 17:59:03 -!- agentgt has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:00:28 -!- CKyle has quit [Client Quit] 18:04:41 -!- ZChris13 has joined ##crawl-dev 18:04:49 -!- Valarioth has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:06:53 -!- Earlo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:07:53 -!- Ququman has joined ##crawl-dev 18:09:56 Unstable branch on crawl.lantea.net updated to: 0.17-a0-1949-g1acca9a (34) 18:10:05 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:16:52 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:19:06 -!- LexAckson has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 18:20:06 -!- Wolfe has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:25:53 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 18:26:49 -!- HellTiger_NB has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 18:29:06 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:29:32 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 18:31:06 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:33:38 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:51:07 -!- tealeaves has quit [Quit: Bye] 18:55:56 -!- tealeaves has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 18:56:43 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 18:57:34 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 19:01:50 -!- Cacophony has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:03:05 -!- Ququman has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:03:10 -!- MgDark has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 19:04:43 -!- Sage1234 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 19:09:22 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 19:12:25 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 19:13:51 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:14:00 !cmd .gfkill !lg * (( kmap~~gammafunk|wizlab_lehudib kmap!~overflow || ikiller=asterion || ikiller=octopode_crusher )) $* 19:14:00 Defined command: .gfkill => !lg * (( kmap~~gammafunk|wizlab_lehudib kmap!~overflow || ikiller=asterion || ikiller=octopode_crusher )) $* 19:15:33 !cmd .gfkill !lg * (( map=wizlab_lehudib || kmap~~gammafunk || ikiller=asterion || ikiller=octopode_crusher )) $* 19:15:34 Redefined command: .gfkill => !lg * (( map=wizlab_lehudib || kmap~~gammafunk || ikiller=asterion || ikiller=octopode_crusher )) $* 19:15:40 !cmd -rm .gfkills 19:15:41 Deleted command: .gfkills => !lg * (( kmap~~gammafunk|wizlab_lehudib kmap!~overflow || ikiller=asterion || ikiller=octopode_crusher )) x=cdist(gid) $* 19:18:33 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 19:19:01 -!- predator117 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:19:08 !cmd .gfdevkills .gfkill @devteamnp s=name,cikiller,map $* 19:19:09 Redefined command: .gfdevkills => .gfkill @devteamnp s=name,cikiller,map $* 19:20:03 -!- _miek has quit [Quit: leaving] 19:20:21 -!- _miek has joined ##crawl-dev 19:21:03 .gfkill name=gammafunk 19:21:04 No games for * (((map=wizlab_lehudib || kmap~~gammafunk || ikiller=asterion || ikiller=octopode_crusher)) name=gammafunk). 19:25:53 -!- yottam has quit [Quit: leaving] 19:30:30 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 19:31:31 dang 19:32:15 !lg grunt kmap~~grunt 19:32:16 4. SGrunt the Markself (L16 HEHu of Okawaru), blasted by a frost giant (bolt of cold) on D:16 (grunt_enter_depths_snipers) on 2014-03-04 04:58:34, with 149239 points after 47396 turns and 2:02:02. 19:32:23 !lg grunt kmap~~grunt s=cikiller,kmap 19:32:24 4 games for grunt (kmap~~grunt): an emperor scorpion (grunt_spider_rune_circles), a frost giant (grunt_enter_depths_snipers), a greater naga (grunt_snake_rune_pools), an ice beast (grunt_ministairs_7) 19:33:52 most of those are boring 19:33:56 the snake one is hilarious though 19:34:07 !lg . kmap=grunt_snake_rune_pools -tv 19:34:08 1. SGrunt, XL17 TrAM, T:45338 requested for FooTV: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 19:34:10 -!- zero_one has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 19:34:39 hm, this needs more context 19:34:50 I think you get the idea though >_> 19:36:29 the others are basically 19:36:31 ??grunt[plays 19:36:32 grunt[17/27]: grunt plays like he codes: optimized for speed and maximum character death 19:40:43 -!- syncopath has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:49:16 haha 19:49:24 -!- Bcadren has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:49:38 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:50:11 <|amethyst> !lg . killer=orb_spider 19:50:13 5. Neil the Unseen (L16 SpEn of Gozag), blown up by an orb spider on Spider:1 on 2015-04-05 15:06:51, with 158624 points after 43798 turns and 2:48:21. 19:50:20 <|amethyst> !lg . killer=orb_spider s=char,xl 19:50:20 5 games for |amethyst (killer=orb_spider): MfBe (18), GrGl (17), DECj (16), SpEn (16), HuFE (4) 19:50:28 -!- jspengler has quit [] 19:54:31 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:56:34 !lg . killer=orb_spider 19:56:35 1. SGrunt the Pyromancer (L19 DEFE of Vehumet), blown up by an orb spider on Spider:5 on 2012-06-18 20:46:30, with 231940 points after 68918 turns and 4:37:50. 19:56:38 that was embarassing 20:08:14 -!- mong has quit [Client Quit] 20:09:00 I had a speedrun that wasn't going anywhere and I splatted to an orb spider 20:09:05 !lg . ikiller=orb_spider 20:09:06 1. gammafunk the Executioner (L13 MiBe of Trog), blown up by an orb spider on Spider:2 on 2015-08-22 06:11:46, with 31371 points after 6357 turns and 0:58:37. 20:09:14 oh wow that was my first orb spider death 20:09:59 !lg devteamnp ikiller=orb_spider s=name 20:09:59 10 games for devteamnp (ikiller=orb_spider): 5x Neil, gammafunk, ontoclasm, Medar, SGrunt, erisdiscordia 20:10:06 surprisingly few 20:10:32 ahem 20:10:56 !lg . killer=orb_spider 20:10:57 1. ontoclasm the Destroyer (L19 TeFE of Vehumet), blown up by an orb spider on Spider:5 on 2012-07-29 15:14:08, with 223428 points after 57969 turns and 6:22:31. 20:11:22 hope you like your chicken chunky and well done 20:12:14 <|amethyst> !lg . killer=orb_spider xl=4 20:12:15 1. neil the Ruinous (L4 HuFE), blown up by an orb spider on D:2 on 2012-08-20 23:42:19, with 196 points after 1342 turns and 0:05:32. 20:12:19 <|amethyst> !lg . killer=orb_spider xl=4 -log 20:12:20 1. neil, XL4 HuFE, T:1342: http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/neil/morgue-neil-20120820-234219.txt 20:12:26 <|amethyst> what did I poly 20:12:38 <|amethyst> 1339 | D:2 | a worm changed into an orb spider 20:12:49 <|amethyst> !lg . killer=orb_spider min=sc 20:12:50 5. neil the Ruinous (L4 HuFE), blown up by an orb spider on D:2 on 2012-08-20 23:42:19, with 196 points after 1342 turns and 0:05:32. 20:12:53 <|amethyst> !lg * killer=orb_spider min=sc 20:12:54 1450. icemanSX the Skirmisher (L1 MuAK of Lugonu), blown up by an orb spider on Abyss:1 on 2014-03-22 15:36:59, with 0 points after 32 turns and 0:02:21. 20:13:00 <|amethyst> !lg * killer=orb_spider min=sc !abyss 20:13:02 1429. drag0n the Vexing (L1 VpEn), blown up by an orb spider on D:2 on 2013-04-02 19:05:08, with 37 points after 545 turns and 0:01:37. 20:13:35 you should commit all my PRs https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pulls 20:13:37 <|amethyst> !lg * killer~~the_orb_spider s=killer 20:13:38 5 games for * (killer~~the_orb_spider): Edmund the orb spider, Sigmund the orb spider, Duvessa the orb spider, Pikel the orb spider, Prince Ribbit the orb spider 20:14:40 !lg * killer~~the d:1 max=tdam x=dam,tdam 20:14:43 342. [dam=92;tdam=120] platinum the Evocator (L26 DDBe of Trog), blasted by Icaycsodgh the pandemonium lord (iron shot) on D:1 (zaba_arrival_water) on 2015-03-18 03:46:00, with 619491 points after 51672 turns and 3:27:33. 20:14:52 !lg * killer~~the d:1 max=tdam x=dam,tdam !orb 20:14:53 No keyword 'orb' 20:14:59 !lg * killer~~the d:1 max=tdam x=dam,tdam xl<10 20:15:03 334. [dam=36;tdam=36] mrlhr the Chucker (L1 OgHu), annihilated by Cumiudgh the pandemonium lord on D:1 (wheals_arrival_demonology) on 2014-04-28 02:06:20, with 21 points after 151 turns and 0:01:04. 20:15:17 !lg * killer~~the d:1 max=tdam x=dam,tdam xl<10 -tv 20:15:20 334. mrlhr, XL1 OgHu, T:151 requested for FooTV: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 20:15:46 !lg * killer~~the d:1 max=tdam x=dam,tdam xl<10 -2 20:15:49 333/334. [dam=2;tdam=27] roxton the Ogre Mage (L2 OgIE), slain by Esoid the merfolk (a +5 trident of flaming) (created by the player character) on D:1 on 2015-02-04 20:07:02, with 13 points after 700 turns and 0:01:26. 20:16:05 poor ogres 20:16:12 03chequers02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/125 * 0.17-a0-1948-g3059746: Drop corpses from uniques every time. 10(35 hours ago, 1 file, 4+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/3059746f6835 20:21:10 -!- stanzill has quit [Quit: au rev] 20:37:23 -!- Cacophony has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:40:28 -!- bel_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20:40:38 -!- rast has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:43:56 -!- zero_one has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 20:44:32 !tell wheals cerebov is still wearing a big red dress in my heart 20:44:32 chequers: OK, I'll let wheals know. 20:45:29 -!- pikaro has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 20:54:36 -!- Guest83261 is now known as n1k 20:54:38 -!- n1k has quit [Changing host] 20:54:38 -!- n1k has joined ##crawl-dev 20:56:22 -!- Evablue_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:01:44 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:01:58 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 21:09:12 -!- PsyMar has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 21:09:56 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 21:12:02 -!- Ladykiller70 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:16:31 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:20:29 -!- gammafunk has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:22:23 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 21:22:53 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 21:23:58 -!- kaiza has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:37:21 -!- ByronJohnson has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 21:38:59 -!- rhayde` has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:40:01 -!- agentgt has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 21:40:46 -!- Wolfechu has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:44:05 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 21:44:30 chequers: patches welcome 21:44:44 !commitby chequers Give Cerebov a sex change 21:44:45 3chequers 0.17-a0-1999-ge7d95a4: Give Cerebov a sex change 10(in the future, 42 files, 777+ 666-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/commit.png?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=e7d95a4 21:47:25 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 21:48:10 03Lasty02 07* 0.17-a0-1950-g23d6077: New unrand: Kryia's mail coat 10(9 minutes ago, 5 files, 51+ 6-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/23d607761b2e 21:49:21 -!- Kramin has joined ##crawl-dev 21:50:15 -!- Kramin has left ##crawl-dev 21:55:00 -!- BlackGyver has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 21:58:56 Lasty: thoughts on #9889? 22:02:16 <|amethyst> I'd rather make it a different base type that doesn't randomly generate 22:04:27 <|amethyst> (iron dragon armour?) 22:09:01 bone dragon hide 22:10:37 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:14:58 -!- TAS_2012v has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 22:17:13 -!- TAS_2012v has joined ##crawl-dev 22:17:55 iron dragon bones 22:19:22 iron-bone dragon hide 22:24:42 wheals: doesn't seem that interesting to me: "what if you could be a troll/ogre and feel just like a minotaur?" 22:24:42 Lasty: You have 2 messages. Use !messages to read them. 22:25:12 i was thinking it was kind of boring, yeah 22:27:54 IMO, fixedarts should do something that feels different whenever possible 22:28:27 admittedly, ratskin cloak still exists 22:28:30 -!- Akitten_Homura has joined ##crawl-dev 22:28:40 heh 22:28:55 but the ratskin cloak makes you feel like "why should i wear this?" 22:29:20 It makes you question your assumptions about how much you'd enjoy wearing rats. :p 22:29:45 i've always thought it might have a niche if it had a bigger int minus and a decent dex plus 22:30:16 but as it is, i'm pretty much always like "nah, i'm good with the cloak i have" 22:30:24 even if it's a +0 cloak 22:31:39 ??ratskin 22:31:40 ratskin cloak[1/1]: +1 unrandart cloak with {rPois rN+ Dex-1 Int-1}. 22:32:07 i'd wear it pretty much iff i don't have rPois already 22:32:11 i'm exaggerating a bit 22:32:20 but yeah, that's about the only situation i'd wear it in too 22:32:35 and whatever algorithm determines shop pricing heavily overvalues something about it 22:36:55 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 22:45:49 The ring of Light {rElec rC+++ AC+4 Int-2 Stlth+} 22:45:57 -!- hC|zzz is now known as hypractvChipmunk 22:46:21 hey nerds 22:48:01 oops, wrong window 22:50:56 -!- Evablue_ has quit [Quit: Evablue_] 22:55:12 heh 23:01:21 -!- wheals has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:01:27 -!- CcS has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:06:00 I wanted to create wind drake armour 23:06:15 4 ER 0 AC Running ego 23:06:44 <_miek> sounds more like it should be spriggan/felid armour 23:08:09 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 23:10:00 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:10:22 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 23:12:21 -!- neunon has joined ##crawl-dev 23:17:29 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 23:21:16 -!- FiftyNine has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 23:21:25 |amethyst: you around? 23:30:42 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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