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Cribbed and fright and again politely bidding him down, as far more abundantly supplied than usual.] 00:22:05 -!- Cerpin has joined ##crawl-dev 00:22:35 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 00:22:44 -!- Cerpin has quit [Client Quit] 00:23:03 -!- Cerpin has joined ##crawl-dev 00:23:56 -!- vale_ has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 00:27:58 -!- Pacra has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 00:28:08 gammafunk: indeed you can't 00:28:47 I guess not creating scope by default might be useful for switch/case 00:29:13 s/scope/new scope/ 00:29:32 scoping comes from {}s, and case doesn't have any 00:29:37 is more or less all there is to it 00:29:55 that would explain some errors i saw 00:34:16 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]] 00:34:42 -!- ohyou has quit [Quit: ohyou] 00:38:25 -!- kaiza has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:49:37 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 00:49:38 The build was broken. (master - 9df25cc #2705 : Brendan Hickey): http://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/64514652 00:49:38 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 00:51:06 -!- Chapayev has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 00:53:41 @??putrid_demonspawn 00:53:41 putrid demonspawn (036) | Spd: 10 | HD: 10 | HP: 37-60 | AC/EV: 9/11 | Dam: 20 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors | Res: 06magic(40), 03poison | Vul: 08holy++, 11silver | Chunks: 14noxious | XP: 671 | Sz: Medium | Int: normal. 00:55:04 @??demonspawn_bloodsaint 00:55:04 unknown monster: "demonspawn_bloodsaint" 00:55:07 @??bloodsaint 00:55:08 unknown monster: "bloodsaint" 00:55:11 @??blood_saint 00:55:12 monstrous blood saint (126) | Spd: 10 | HD: 15 | HP: 64-156 | AC/EV: 8/12 | Dam: 15, 15, 15 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, priest, evil | Res: 06magic(60) | Vul: 08holy++, 11silver | XP: 1442 | Sp: legendary destruction (3d27 / 3d22 / 9d15 / 3d25 / 3d34 / 3d20) [11!AM], ephemeral infusion [11!AM] | Sz: Medium | Int: normal. 00:55:24 @??putrid_blood_saint 00:55:24 putrid blood saint (126) | Spd: 10 | HD: 15 | HP: 59-92 | AC/EV: 5/13 | Dam: 15 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, priest, evil | Res: 06magic(60), 03poison | Vul: 08holy++, 11silver | XP: 1300 | Sp: legendary destruction (3d34 / 3d22 / 3d25 / 3d20 / 3d27 / 9d15) [11!AM], ephemeral infusion [11!AM] | Sz: Medium | Int: normal. 00:56:29 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 00:56:55 oh, also it should check alignment 00:58:32 oh and 01:00:58 what alignment? 01:01:23 the alignment of the recipient 01:01:56 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.17-a0-1174-ge06b3cc (34) 01:05:38 yeah, probably it can just be any kill, since it's useless if it only triggers when monsters kill player allies 01:05:44 -!- KurzedMetal has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:06:16 ah but you have to check for weird deaths at least 01:06:19 like firewood 01:06:39 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:08:11 -!- gorgo has quit [Client Quit] 01:13:45 -!- Ipsum has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:14:27 -!- Ipsum has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:16:16 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:16:37 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 01:17:43 ah 01:17:59 chequers: looks like you forgot to check for triggering on banishment/summons/firewood in general 01:18:04 I can fix that 01:18:50 ah, I didn't change the condition 01:19:00 -!- AlphaQ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:19:10 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.17-a0-1174-ge06b3cc (34) 01:19:38 -!- Cerpin has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:20:02 i guess it was less important in the current design if you reactivated pbd by killing a plant 01:20:19 yeah, it was basically a bug in the old code as well 01:20:27 song of slaying has some better checks 01:20:38 but it's checking of the kill source isn't as good as pbd 01:21:05 not sure if it's intentional for SoS to not work with ranged kills 01:21:13 ??song_of_slaying 01:21:13 song of slaying[1/1]: Skald spell which gives you a slaying bonus for each monster you kill at the cost of noise. It does work with ranged combat, but not with spells. 01:21:13 there should probably be an "on kill" generic check everything can use 01:21:23 heh 01:21:27 oh, hrm 01:22:04 that might not be accurate,looking at the code 01:22:12 are you sure you want to remove this interaction gammfunk? it's pretty funny "You whack the plant!! The plant is destroyed! You feel energised by your suffering!" 01:22:31 their suffering/whatever 01:28:33 %git :/firewood 01:28:33 07MarvinPA02 * 0.17-a0-875-g69f78fd: Don't make Dragon's Call summon dragons onto firewood (zxc232) 10(4 weeks ago, 1 file, 4+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/69f78fdc622f 01:28:46 !gitgrep 2 firewood 01:28:47 %git HEAD^{/firewood}^^{/firewood} 01:28:47 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.17-a0-707-g43905dc: Don't goldify firewood (Lightli, 4chan) 10(6 weeks ago, 1 file, 4+ 6-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/43905dc42316 01:28:52 !gitgrep 3 firewood 01:28:52 %git HEAD^{/firewood}^^{/firewood}^^{/firewood} 01:28:52 07gammafunk02 * 0.17-a0-207-gcc00329: Don't allow Dith's shadow step to work on firewood 10(9 weeks ago, 1 file, 3+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/cc00329c2358 01:29:03 I love nerfing things that rely on firewood 01:29:19 I just hate cellulose in general 01:29:21 i love adding abilities that proc on firewood, apparently 01:29:30 gold from plants, regen from plants 01:29:48 the checks for "I really should do this death effect" are pretty bad, yeah 01:29:58 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:29:59 different blocks need subtly different checks 01:30:04 but I'm sure some of these are just wrong 01:30:10 most are probably just "on kill" though 01:30:28 like, mak healing, tso healing, pbd and sos are all "on kill", excepting tso's holy check 01:30:45 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 01:32:59 Mulkerokala (L2 OpTm) ASSERT(sel.size() == 1) in 'spl-book.cc' at line 872 failed. (D:1) 01:34:03 chequers: there's good_kill 01:34:09 const bool good_kill = gives_xp && !created_friendly; 01:34:26 and 01:34:29 const bool gives_xp = (!summoned && !mons_class_flag(mons->type, 01:34:29 M_NO_EXP_GAIN)); 01:34:36 -!- drunkdriver1488 has quit [] 01:34:37 so that's most of the needed checks right there 01:34:49 but there's still in_transit and was_banished 01:35:02 which as far as I can tell are a redundant pair 01:35:17 what is in_transit except banished? 01:35:24 ah I see 01:36:00 -!- agentgt has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:37:02 -!- ggggorggggo has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:38:18 -!- Idolo has quit [] 01:39:14 I like how this is a deep rabbit hole I'm getting into 01:39:26 better you than me! 01:39:29 indeed 01:39:30 (I'll push these changes if you want) 01:39:39 no, I need to clean up some of this code 01:39:46 I'll write a sh script and call out to it, that seems sensible 01:42:21 well for our purpses, was_banished is all we need to check 01:42:50 but apparently some xp-giving monsters don't get transit to abyss even when they're banished 01:43:03 bh: i think you should kill this team https://github.com/dungeoncrawl 01:43:04 there's an xl check for non-uniques 01:43:22 too low = just forget about them? 01:43:31 seems so 01:51:35 fr: remove that check 01:51:36 ah, it seems that kill_you_missile is only used for magic bolts? 01:52:03 well I think the idea is that you don't need to fight the adders you banished to the abyss 01:52:05 ??firewood 01:52:05 firewood[1/2]: No-XP stationary monsters other than tentacles and tentacle segments. 01:52:07 when you go to the abyss 01:52:17 ??firewood [2] 01:52:18 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/variable/float.des#l91 01:52:47 -!- BanMido has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:53:06 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.17-a0-1174-ge06b3cc 01:54:13 i would love to see an abyss full of adders when I get the abyssal rune as a late game weaklingAK 01:56:23 -!- Doesnt has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 01:58:44 -!- ohyou has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:06:05 -!- ohyou has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:06:55 man, I'm not sure what the hell KILL_YOU_MISSILE is doing 02:09:38 -!- Shard1697 has joined ##crawl-dev 02:10:52 gammafunk: is it not the enum value for "this thing died because you shot it"? 02:11:04 it would seem not 02:13:09 -!- zxc232 has joined ##crawl-dev 02:13:23 -!- iFurril has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 02:13:49 -!- ohyou has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 02:14:10 gammafunk: are you sure? it looks like it to me. what makes you think it's not? 02:15:05 -!- Krakhan has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 02:21:26 -!- Z_LAMP has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 02:24:38 -!- Sonny_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:26:17 -!- CacoS has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 02:30:31 -!- seriallos has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. 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The ghostly flame explodes! The ghostly fireball engulfs you! You are bolstered by the flame. 02:51:10 ??demonspawn[3 02:51:11 demonspawn[3/4]: Demonspawn enemies live in Pan. There are five bases of mutation clumpings and god-based classes, akin to draconians. 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12:38:46 <|amethyst> IIRC the player can, so I wouldn't be surprised 12:39:48 -!- seriallos has joined ##crawl-dev 12:41:49 <|amethyst> if nets aren't made more restrictive instead, there needs to be a spell flag that says "this involves moving, throwing, or attacking" 12:43:14 <|amethyst> I would say jst make that apply to natural spells, but it would be weird to prevent dragon breath but not bolt of fire 12:43:19 <|amethyst> s/jst/just/ 12:44:49 -!- Shard1697 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:45:52 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 12:48:36 -!- Crawl_Bacchus has quit [Quit: Look what I got, Bart, a Tickle-Me Krusty doll!] 12:52:19 -!- Joob has quit [Quit: Joob] 13:01:11 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [Firefox 38.0.1/20150513174244]] 13:04:43 |amethyst: it'd be a bit weird, but it would also make sense 13:08:36 I'd also be fine with nets preventing spellcasting, though it'd be a big nerf to players 13:08:45 Blinking out of nets is currently very good 13:08:59 -!- sk3 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:09:36 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 13:09:51 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 13:14:13 -!- Aryth has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 13:14:51 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 13:25:10 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.17-a0-1176-g3d5a0d0 (34) 13:25:54 -!- neunon has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in] 13:26:42 -!- neunon has joined ##crawl-dev 13:33:20 <|amethyst> !tell PleasingFungus the nice thing about breaking monster now is that you have access to the repo github.com/crawl/monster/ so can fix it yourself! Tell me (or gammafunk or someone with a CDO account) if you need it updated 13:33:21 |amethyst: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 13:33:48 <|amethyst> !tell PleasingFungus I guess we probably should make it rebuild nightly? 13:33:48 |amethyst: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 13:34:10 <|amethyst> !tell PleasingFungus or Travis! 13:34:10 |amethyst: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 13:37:05 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 13:40:46 -!- sk3 has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 13:42:54 fwiw I've been wielding rocks and casting sandblast while netted (and yes, this seems strange) 13:43:01 (but, well, ~magic~) 13:45:27 -!- st_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:46:03 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 13:54:39 -!- halberd has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:54:42 -!- seriallos has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. 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It kind of makes sense flavor wise and wouldn't even be a problem if it's unintended but idk 17:22:51 That doesn't sound normal 17:23:03 Damaging a monster is supposed to alert it to you 17:23:30 It used to be that Ozo's didn't wake up sleeping monsters, but I think that got fixed . . . 17:23:43 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:24:19 Yeah, that's why I'm asking. But it could be slouch flavor mechanics. I don't think it's a problem but if anyone thinks it should be fixed, well it happened 17:27:41 -!- ldf has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:27:50 i just tried it in wizmode, reproduced the behvior 17:28:07 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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[2015-05-29 22:13:12] elliptic the Executioner (L22 DDCj of Trog) entered an Ice Cave on turn 43302. (Shoals:3) 18:14:49 xl22 ice cave...hax 18:16:54 the reward for delaying shoals until after depths 18:16:56 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 18:17:20 ??branch_order 18:17:20 hyperelliptic[1/1]: Lair -> D:12 -> Orc -> D:15 -> S:3 -> maybe other S:3 -> get rune -> Vaults:4 -> maybe get second rune -> Depths:5 -> get three runes -> Zot 18:17:37 -!- debo has quit [Client Quit] 18:23:35 -!- somebody has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:23:46 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Quit: Excess flood] 18:24:07 is it intended that volcano not generate rF+ cloaks specifically? 18:25:28 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 18:30:19 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]] 18:32:22 -!- sk3 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:34:23 -!- someone is now known as Guest76242 18:34:59 -!- Bcadren has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 18:37:46 -!- Cerpin has joined ##crawl-dev 18:37:57 -!- ohyou has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:38:32 -!- Guest76242 has quit [Client Quit] 18:43:00 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 18:46:24 DrKe: the loot is usually vault-specific, how do you mean? 18:46:26 -!- WereVolvo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:47:19 oh I see 18:47:20 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/portals/volcano.des#L178 18:47:24 make_fiery_armour 18:47:26 it looks like every type is created except cloak 18:47:33 also, i find it odd that lajatang has normal weight 18:47:34 hrm, how consistently is this used 18:47:39 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 18:47:49 and glaive is weight 1 18:47:58 yes 18:48:01 it seems like the opposite is what someone would intend 18:48:04 was just about to ask why glaives 18:48:28 i would write a patch for it but idk how to write patches 18:49:05 DrKe: if you make a github account, it is as easy as just editing that file in-place and then saying "send pull request" 18:49:37 i thought non-senior devs had to go through mantis 18:49:52 no you can just use github 18:49:54 nah now that things are on github instead of gitorious PRs are fine 18:54:21 -!- Shard1697 has joined ##crawl-dev 18:55:52 ok, done 18:56:38 -!- Bcadren has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 18:57:42 -!- st_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:58:16 pff, thinks he's the best player AND a doctor AND a programmer... 18:58:22 someone get DrKe a senior-dev badge 18:59:02 i'll wait for my check in the mail 18:59:19 after that harsh coding job 18:59:52 New branch created: pull/46 (1 commit) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/46 18:59:52 03drke202 07[pull/46] * 0.17-a0-1177-g17b02a1: Add cloak to make_fiery_armour & swap lajatang/glaive weight. 10(5 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/17b02a1e6ba3 19:00:12 -!- Alarkh has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:02:04 -!- Shard1697 has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 19:05:03 -!- tcsc has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 19:07:10 -!- tcjsavannah has quit [Quit: tcjsavannah] 19:13:10 -!- sk3 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:13:29 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 19:21:46 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:22:54 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 19:25:40 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:28:31 -!- Alarkh has joined ##crawl-dev 19:30:26 -!- Cerpin has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 19:31:36 -!- Aryth has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:33:56 -!- ontoclasm_also has joined ##crawl-dev 19:36:56 -!- Shard1697 has joined ##crawl-dev 19:37:52 -!- WalrusKing has quit [Client Quit] 19:40:06 -!- Yllodra has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:41:06 -!- Monkaria has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:45:16 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 19:47:45 -!- Ququman has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:49:01 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:50:27 -!- sk3 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:04:38 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:04:51 -!- Fhqwhgads__ is now known as Fhqwhgads_ 20:06:27 -!- tcsc has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 20:27:37 -!- Shard1697 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20:30:20 -!- Zooty has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:32:31 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 20:32:43 -!- stubblyhead has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:33:21 -!- ly^ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20:36:31 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 20:36:58 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 20:46:35 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 20:49:31 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 20:51:12 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 20:53:36 -!- bitcoinbastard has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 21:04:35 -!- Bcadren is now known as Jacob905 21:11:31 -!- Wah has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:14:10 -!- mamgar has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:17:21 -!- nicolae- has joined ##crawl-dev 21:17:22 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:20:04 -!- ontoclasm_also has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 21:20:57 -!- MgDark has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [Firefox 38.0.1/20150513174244]] 21:28:31 -!- lessens has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 21:28:32 -!- lessens_ is now known as lessens 21:32:39 -!- nicolae- has left ##crawl-dev 21:33:27 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:33:44 -!- SegFaultAX has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 21:33:55 -!- sk3 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 21:34:28 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 21:34:32 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 21:34:42 -!- amalloy_ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 21:34:48 -!- tcjsavannah has quit [Quit: tcjsavannah] 21:40:02 -!- lessens has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 21:40:02 -!- lessens_ is now known as lessens 21:47:11 -!- mamgar has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:53:20 -!- Alarkh has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:55:42 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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