00:00:39 weird. I assumed that I would set my PATH and export it in my .bashrc file 00:00:43 but I don't see PATH in there 00:01:11 maybe your bashrc doesn't change PATH currently 00:01:18 (I'm basing this on how my ksh is set up at work when running on AIX. I've never had to mess with my path on my VPS before I guess) 00:01:24 yea. probably it 00:01:25 which is fine, just add that line 00:01:30 yep. ty 00:01:32 although maybe you're using .bash_porfile or .profile? 00:01:38 *.bash_profile 00:02:50 I don't see those files so looks like no 00:03:12 I'm not sure how you're setting up the env through the chroot 00:03:46 but maybe the crawl-dev user's .bashrc or .bash_profile is fine 00:04:17 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 00:04:23 -!- sgun_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:04:36 recompiling happens on the host 00:05:58 yeah, I think you're compiling through a shell script 00:06:05 so you'd probably need to modify the path in there 00:06:15 doesn't |amethyst's guide cover setting up ccache? 00:06:21 there's probably a place that's best for it 00:07:31 I don't think so 00:07:37 since I followed the guide exactly :P 00:07:56 and added some stuff that wasn't in it (and still need to add info on the rebuild stuff) 00:08:07 ??dgamelaunch[wiki 00:08:08 dgl[3/3]: https://crawl.develz.org/wiki/doku.php?id=setting_up_dgamelaunch_and_webtiles 00:08:27 -!- sk3 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 00:10:33 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.17-a0-1105-gbe8b664 (34) 00:11:03 johnstein: I think you might need to set the path in your cronjob for doing the update 00:11:47 yea. as dumb as this sounds, I cannot remember how to find the cronjob file 00:11:53 crontab -e brings up a blank file 00:12:30 ah. /etc/crontab 00:12:55 10 3 * * * crawl-dev /home/crawl-dev/scripts/update-crawl 00:13:10 this seems to indicate that as long as user crawl-dev has the right path, I might be ok 00:13:38 though, update-crawl has to wind its way through dgl 00:13:43 hrm, on my system I see that cron sets the PATH to something minimal and you have to change it but 00:15:06 yes ^ 00:15:12 I don't think setting your bash rc files will help you with the cron updates, since these are non-interactive scripts 00:15:16 and cron sets you path 00:15:18 the crawl-dev user's path will not be used by cron 00:15:23 yeah 00:15:28 and you can set your path in crontab 00:15:47 at the top of the cron file, you can set PATH=, but it would be better to move that command to a file in /etc/cron.d and set PATH in there, so you don't affect anything else 00:15:57 good point 00:17:52 -!- Crawl_Bacchus has quit [Quit: Look what I got, Bart, a Tickle-Me Krusty doll!] 00:18:16 johnstein: the PATH setting in crontab is also not shell, so you don't use variable interpolation 00:18:49 but you can do PATH=/usr/lib/ccache:/usr/bin:/bin 00:18:58 in said cron.d file 00:19:14 I'm not sure how |amethyst sets this, so you can also just ask him 00:19:22 pretty sure cszo uses ccache 00:19:35 ah ok. I see the PATH in bold blue letters at the top 00:19:55 yeah, you can't use things like $PATH in there though 00:19:59 it's specially parsed by cron 00:20:02 yea, I'm almost certain he's using ccache 00:20:20 I don't see ccache in the path on cszo's crontab but it might be somewhere else 00:21:26 on some linux systems, I'm pretty sure when you install ccache it replaces the /usr/bin cc/etc 00:21:51 on cszo it uses the dir approach 00:22:00 it's debian 00:22:14 and crawl-dev does have ccache in its bashrc 00:22:14 but not sure about the cron 00:23:00 -!- Marquis has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:23:17 we'll find out later tonight if it worked 00:25:07 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 00:30:16 -!- Bcadren is now known as Shtnmayey 00:35:25 -!- tcsc has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 00:39:04 -!- Cerpin has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 00:39:54 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 00:41:10 ...oh ug 00:41:16 // Now move it into the shop! 00:41:16 dec_mitm_item_quantity(item_index, item.quantity); 00:41:31 so I didn't realize that this hack is used to store items in shops 00:41:37 shop.stock.push_back(item); 00:41:57 keep a copy in the shop.stock vector with the quantity intact 00:42:07 and have the one in mitm have a quantity of 0 00:43:04 so shop items in fact aren't counted by objstat 00:43:24 looks like the only way I can fix this is by iterating over the shop.stock 00:43:49 -!- MathSquared has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:44:57 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:45:55 !tell PleasingFungus Remember when you complained to me how bad item.link is and I ignored you? Well the hack for keeping shop items in mitm at dungeon.cc:5783-5787 means that objstat hasn't been seeing shop items when I thought it was!!!! 00:45:55 gammafunk: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 00:51:00 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:53:21 -!- halberd has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 00:53:43 -!- Cerpin has joined ##crawl-dev 01:06:52 -!- mibe has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:08:18 -!- IDOlogic has quit [] 01:09:45 -!- Utrick has quit [Quit: Utrick] 01:09:57 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 01:12:03 -!- Furril has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 01:12:37 -!- mibe_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:14:35 -!- Menche has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:14:43 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 01:16:01 -!- iFurril has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:20:51 -!- SwissStopwatch has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 01:25:52 -!- akumaks has quit [Client Quit] 01:27:37 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 01:28:28 now i feel less bad about being unable to understand shop stock code last month 01:34:17 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:34:53 -!- simmarine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:35:38 -!- doubtofbuddha has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 01:39:48 -!- Foamed has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:40:48 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 01:43:12 -!- bhaak has quit [*.net *.split] 01:43:12 -!- Azzkikr has quit [*.net *.split] 01:43:17 -!- bhaak has joined ##crawl-dev 01:43:22 -!- Laraso has quit [Quit: Laraso falls through a shaft! 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Shame on us, for what we've done, and all we ever were, just zeros and ones.] 02:22:18 -!- WalrusKing has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:22:25 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.17-a0-1105-gbe8b664 (34) 02:23:20 if you hit something with enhancer staff, and the bonus damage kills it, you don't get the "%s is electrocuted/frozen/whatever!" message. is that intentional? 02:23:46 crawl-dev@www: (master %) ~/scripts$ ccache -s 02:23:48 cache directory /home/crawl-dev/.ccache 02:23:49 cache hit (direct) 0 02:23:51 cache hit (preprocessed) 0 02:23:52 cache miss 283 02:23:54 called for link 2 02:23:55 called for preprocessing 4 02:23:57 compile failed 1 02:23:58 no input file 5 02:24:00 files in cache 845 02:24:01 cache size 568.7 Mbytes 02:24:04 max cache size 1.0 Gbytes 02:24:05 I guess that means ccache is working 02:24:09 wonder if I should increase the cache size... 02:25:34 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 02:25:34 hm. compile failed, 1? 02:25:45 -!- Yllodra has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:29:24 you don't need to increase the cache size, because even when it fills up, old cached entries that have been replaces are what will be evicted 02:29:36 you only need enough cache to match one crawl compile, plus a little more for future growth 02:30:15 -!- sk3 is now known as ktgrey 02:33:14 "The bosom of this dungeon contains the fabled artefact, the Orb of Zot." is bosom really an appropriate word? 02:33:33 not in the sense of 'ew sex', but it doesn't seem to be a synonym for "bottom " or "heart" 02:35:42 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 02:40:22 -!- Laraso has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 02:42:53 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Quit: Connection reset by pier.] 02:45:49 -!- dc192168 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:50:26 controversial change incoming 02:54:06 !tell basil am i crazy https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/38 02:54:06 chequers: OK, I'll let basil know. 02:55:38 New branch created: pull/38 (1 commit) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/38 02:55:40 03chequers02 07[pull/38] * 0.17-a0-1106-gb95e156: Remove Ghoul random rotting. 10(18 hours ago, 1 file, 0+ 19-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/b95e15698803 02:58:35 -!- panicbit has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 03:06:51 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 03:11:31 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 03:17:38 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 03:19:30 -!- panicbit has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:21:23 ty for the info chequers 03:24:04 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 03:27:48 -!- Textmode has quit [Quit: "It was one dev, naked in a room with a carton of cigarettes, a thermos full of coffee and bourbon, and all his summoned angels."] 03:32:38 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 03:34:39 -!- speranza has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 03:34:47 -!- speranza_ is now known as speranza 03:37:09 -!- minqmay has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:38:56 -!- minmay has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 03:48:20 -!- CacoS has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 03:57:45 ew sex 04:24:51 -!- Siveran_ has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 04:27:41 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 04:28:53 -!- st_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:29:38 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 04:31:50 -!- ktgrey has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 04:42:40 YOU'RE TRYING TO DESEX GAMES!!!!! 04:47:16 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:51:04 -!- bmfx has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 04:58:24 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 05:05:19 -!- Hanyuu has quit [Quit: Page closed] 05:13:14 !messages 05:13:14 No messages for TZer0. 05:18:24 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 05:34:05 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 05:35:07 -!- minmay has joined ##crawl-dev 05:41:34 -!- ololoev has quit [Quit: Page closed] 05:41:58 -!- squid_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 05:43:20 -!- wat has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 05:43:41 -!- johlstei__ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:44:02 -!- johlstei__ has joined ##crawl-dev 05:45:51 -!- zxc232 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 05:51:27 -!- zxc232 has joined ##crawl-dev 05:51:52 -!- ldf has joined ##crawl-dev 05:54:23 -!- iFurril has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 05:56:46 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 06:03:52 -!- vale has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 06:32:07 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:42:08 -!- SurpriseTRex has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 06:47:27 -!- unpaidbill has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 06:48:56 -!- Turgon has quit [Client Quit] 06:51:25 -!- ldf has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 07:01:20 -!- siepu has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 07:07:22 !won 07:07:23 TZer0 has won 15 times in 2203 games (0.68%): 2xVSBe 2xVSSk 1xDDNe 1xDsWz 1xFoAK 1xGrTm 1xHOGl 1xHuDK 1xLOBe 1xMiMo 1xOgHu 1xTrCK 1xVSFi 07:25:14 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 07:31:41 -!- SCP-079 is now known as Bcadren 07:33:06 -!- Amy is now known as Guest89828 07:34:24 -!- Sonata has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 07:45:00 -!- Voker57 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:45:08 -!- Xjs|moonshine has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 07:47:10 -!- Xjs-moonshine is now known as Xjs|moonshine 07:50:39 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 07:56:35 -!- Yermak has quit [Quit: Page closed] 07:59:26 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:00:38 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 08:05:49 -!- nixor has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 08:21:18 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 08:27:25 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 08:27:37 -!- Brannock has joined ##crawl-dev 08:29:12 -!- Bcadren has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 08:41:22 -!- LexAckson has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 08:41:50 -!- orionstein has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in] 08:50:04 <|amethyst> chequers: does PR 38 mean that ghouls don't have to eat at all (other than to speed up healing)? 08:51:28 <|amethyst> chequers: I mean, the argument in the commit message seems like 1) it doesn't consider that you'd want chunks to heal anyway 2) it would apply just as much to, say, kobolds or trolls 08:53:47 -!- Eronarn has quit [] 08:53:57 -!- Eronarn has joined ##crawl-dev 08:58:25 -!- mamgar has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:00:59 -!- Wah has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:09:52 -!- panicbit has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 09:10:23 -!- nixor has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:10:38 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:10:44 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 09:16:04 well, won't they starve? 09:16:20 <|amethyst> ghouls don't starve, they rot 09:16:21 i agree it makes them more like other species, because yes it is removing a unique feature 09:16:23 -!- halberd has quit [Changing host] 09:16:34 i just think it's not a great feature :D 09:17:21 -!- Wah has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:18:13 maybe rotting can apply only at below-Hungry, but you rot for much more at a go 09:18:32 my RC that I stole off DrKe does a force more every rot instance 09:18:45 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 09:19:56 03chequers02 07* 0.17-a0-1079-g9ed0da6: Rename Sustain Abilities to Sustain Attributes. 10(3 days ago, 38 files, 74+ 74-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/9ed0da6b8321 09:19:56 03chequers02 07* 0.17-a0-1080-gb322039: Handle old saves with SustAb in wiz-dump 10(11 hours ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/b322039f89d9 09:19:56 03wheals02 07* 0.17-a0-1108-g19f5157: Merge pull request #37 from alexjurkiewicz/sustat 10(5 seconds ago, 0 files, 0+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/19f515785e96 09:19:59 -!- radinms has quit [] 09:20:15 damnit wheals 09:20:23 you should have let me squash the commits :) 09:20:32 hehe 09:20:53 damn, I will probably still call it sustab 09:20:55 :/ 09:21:09 this makes a lot more sense though :D 09:22:04 i await a save compat bug or something weird like that due to this change 09:26:20 -!- Earlo has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:26:40 haha 09:29:02 hm, the brain feed desc is kind of inaccurate 09:29:27 it claims "rings of sustain attribute" can mitigate the effect but they don't stack 09:29:43 not that that's necessarily an implication, it's more misleading than inaccurate 09:37:18 isn't that true? 09:37:22 sustat give 50% resist 09:37:40 %git :/sust.*stack 09:37:51 07Evan James02 {MarvinPA} * 0.10-a0-1086-g5d34c6f: Changes for Zin's Vitalise ability. 10(3 years, 8 months ago, 8 files, 52+ 125-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/5d34c6f1355d 09:38:02 <|amethyst> chequers: player_sust_abil returns just a bool 09:38:06 i remember marvinpa changing this at some point 09:38:26 |amethyst: that's what I mean 09:38:35 rings mitigate brain feed, but they don't stack 09:38:41 <|amethyst> %git cbb52e4a 09:38:41 07MarvinPA02 * 0.15-a0-854-gcbb52e4: Cap sustain abilities at 1 level 10(1 year ago, 4 files, 6+ 13-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/cbb52e4a65af 09:38:57 <|amethyst> chequers: right, wheals is claiming that the description implies that multiple rings help more 09:38:58 oh, are you parsing the grammar differently to me 09:39:27 sleeptime 09:39:36 * wheals starts looking for his comma key 09:40:43 <|amethyst> wheals: could change it to say "a ring" but 09:41:00 but demigods? 09:41:09 <|amethyst> and artefacts 09:41:37 oh right, it can be on unrands 09:43:53 -!- oddshocks has quit [Changing host] 09:43:57 -!- siepu has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:47:23 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 09:48:22 -!- BanMido has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:49:44 -!- koolguydude has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:59:43 |amethyst: looking at the logs, i think you implied c_assign_invletter never worked, but i think until 0.6 the lua item library used light userdata 09:59:48 so it might have worked back then 10:06:26 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:09:05 -!- aves has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:09:43 <|amethyst> wheals: I didn't look back to see how long ago that was, but I figured that was the case 10:10:10 i think it was changed whenever troves were added, though i could be wrong 10:11:49 -!- nono_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:11:54 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 10:20:36 Change Ice Beast to Living Ice 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9735 by TeshiAlair 10:46:16 -!- Laraso has quit [Quit: Laraso falls through a shaft! The shaft crumbles and collapses.] 10:56:24 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:00:14 -!- tcjsavannah has quit [Quit: tcjsavannah] 11:20:54 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 11:21:04 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 11:25:24 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 11:26:34 gammafunk: lmao 11:27:08 -!- SurpriseTRex has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:27:36 rip 11:29:11 !source dungeon.cc:5783-5787 11:29:11 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/dungeon.cc#l5783 11:30:37 <|amethyst> err, does that work? 11:30:39 -!- nixor has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:30:59 <|amethyst> ohh 11:31:06 <|amethyst> I see, "item" is a local copy 11:31:36 -!- simmarine has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 11:31:43 god damn it I think I just tweeted my own comment 11:31:49 I'm going senile... 11:31:56 <|amethyst> that's a lot of copying though (mitm[item_index] -> item -> shop.stock) 11:32:13 <|amethyst> oh 11:32:18 <|amethyst> I think I see a bug maybe? 11:32:23 <|amethyst> item.quantity += random2(3); 11:32:24 <|amethyst> ... 11:32:34 <|amethyst> dec_mitm_item_quantity(item_index, item.quantity); 11:32:53 <|amethyst> but mitm[item_index] didn't have its quantity incremented 11:33:06 <|amethyst> !crashlog * vp 11:33:12 337. Gekkouka, XL14 VpEn, T:21323 (milestone): http://webzook.net:82/morgue/0.16/Gekkouka/crash-Gekkouka-20150410-200003.txt 11:33:13 <|amethyst> !crashlog * vp gozag 11:33:23 4. zarath9, XL22 VpEn, T:89160 (milestone): http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/zarath9/crash-zarath9-20141113-044628.txt 11:33:37 <|amethyst> !crashlog * vp gozag -2 11:33:37 potion petition 11:33:39 3/4. zarath9, XL22 VpEn, T:86784 (milestone): http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/zarath9/crash-zarath9-20141113-042124.txt 11:33:45 <|amethyst> !crashlog * vp gozag 1 11:33:54 also that's my bug, if it's a bug (the blood shop thing). sorry 11:34:01 1/4. EnterQ, XL27 VpEn, T:171261 (milestone): http://lazy-life.ddo.jp:8080/morgue/EnterQ/crash-EnterQ-20140805-064421.txt 11:34:07 <|amethyst> well, I guess whatever it was hasn't caused any crashes yet 11:34:35 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 11:34:43 don't think there are many people playing vp^gozag 11:34:44 tbh 11:34:53 <|amethyst> !lg * vp gozag 11:34:54 123. omnirizon the Covert (L9 VpAs of Gozag), slain by a centaur on D:9 on 2015-05-12 18:56:50, with 2750 points after 4548 turns and 0:44:44. 11:35:00 <|amethyst> !lg * vp gozag xl>1 11:35:01 123. omnirizon the Covert (L9 VpAs of Gozag), slain by a centaur on D:9 on 2015-05-12 18:56:50, with 2750 points after 4548 turns and 0:44:44. 11:35:06 <|amethyst> !lg * vp gozag xl>1 s=name 11:35:07 123 games for * (vp gozag xl>1): 23x PolkaDot, 9x jamielynn, 9x EnterQ, 6x Dynast, 5x hooplah, 3x dpeg, 3x agentgt, 2x ProzacElf, 2x LiquidKrystal, 2x undieable, 2x shmup, 2x Maxmaps, 2x ASSMAN, akaean, zarath9, DocMerlin, gimp, Terrin, djmy96, Edwardauron, liarnose, ancientchina, SomeFlowers, caleba, swap, ggum12, Armakuni, mikeb, nimitz, Cirk, Duruthegn, sleeves, Chago123, hmm, Asteosic, xen2, Z... 11:35:18 <|amethyst> not very many, no 11:35:27 <|amethyst> !lg polkadot vp gozag s=place 11:35:28 23 games for polkadot (vp gozag): 3x D:8, 2x D:6, 2x Volcano, 2x D:4, 2x D:7, 2x D:11, D:3, Bailey, Snake:5, D:9, D:10, D:12, D:13, D:5, D:15, Lair:7 11:35:43 would be good to check how many since the change that added that code 11:35:48 %git :/orridge 11:35:51 07|amethyst02 * 0.16-a0-3855-gd2600ac: Revert "Doom another vestige of porridge." (geekosaur) 10(4 months ago, 1 file, 0+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/d2600ac58c8b 11:35:56 hm 11:36:04 !gitgrep orridge 3 11:36:04 %git HEAD^{/3} 11:36:04 07wheals02 * 0.17-a0-1108-g19f5157: Merge pull request #37 from alexjurkiewicz/sustat 10(2 hours ago, 0 files, 0+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/19f515785e96 11:36:14 !gitgrep 3 orridge 11:36:14 %git HEAD^{/orridge}^^{/orridge}^^{/orridge} 11:36:15 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.16-a0-2090-gca3af43: Remove porridge 10(6 months ago, 21 files, 41+ 55-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/ca3af43a8e8f 11:36:19 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 11:36:20 somewhere around there 11:36:41 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:36:43 !source dec_mitm_item_quantity 11:36:43 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/items.cc#l369 11:36:59 <|amethyst> %git 1e85cf02 11:36:59 07wheals02 * 0.16-a0-2945-g1e85cf0: Remove the shop hack. 10(6 months ago, 15 files, 184+ 169-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/1e85cf02c125 11:37:10 <|amethyst> oh 11:37:18 right 11:37:22 <|amethyst> I see, it clips that to the actual number anyway 11:37:25 <|amethyst> but still 11:37:33 <|amethyst> if someone changed that to subtract one, we'd have a problem 11:37:45 yeah 11:38:06 <|amethyst> hm 11:38:08 i was thinking about adding a function make_item(item_def&, ) 11:38:20 so that function wouldn't have to go through mitm at all 11:38:31 (unrelated: http://www.magmafortress.com/2015/03/hoplite-challenge-mode-is-ready.html?m=1 says a nice thing about us :) 11:39:38 <|amethyst> wheals: hm, where items just becomes get_mitm_slot then make_item(mitm[p], ...) 11:39:48 basically 11:40:02 -!- seriallos has joined ##crawl-dev 11:40:05 <|amethyst> wheals: sounds reasonable but would have to verify that nothing it calls uses the item index 11:40:06 it would also have to have a new version of dgn_place_item as well for that function, too 11:40:47 <|amethyst> ? 11:40:54 "that function" meaning _stock_shop_item, since it takes item specs 11:41:18 and dgn_place_item also assumes you're working in mitm 11:42:35 <|amethyst> that's starting to sound like a much more extensive change 11:42:39 -!- Shard1697_ has joined ##crawl-dev 11:42:46 <|amethyst> since that implies that acquirement has to be changed too 11:44:12 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 11:44:37 i see, for the case where you have "acquire any" 11:44:43 s/any/foo 11:45:17 <|amethyst> my thought for simplifying _stock_shop_item was to make 'item' a reference, then only do the dec after pushing it 11:45:25 <|amethyst> but it has to be a little more complicated because of the link 11:45:30 <|amethyst> and pos 11:45:33 <|amethyst> something like 11:45:35 <|amethyst> { 11:45:45 <|amethyst> unwind_vars for pos and link 11:45:54 <|amethyst> shop.stock.push_back(item); 11:45:54 <|amethyst> } 11:46:10 <|amethyst> dec_mitm_item_quantity (now that the pos and link are back to normal) 11:46:16 <|amethyst> or I guess simpler would be 11:46:24 <|amethyst> shop.stock.push_back(item); 11:46:47 <|amethyst> shop.stock.back().pos = ...; 11:46:54 actually, how about shop.stock.push_back(mitm[item_index]) 11:47:03 so you would only need one copy anyway 11:47:14 <|amethyst> making it a reference is the same thing 11:47:15 -!- minced has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:47:33 <|amethyst> but then at least you get to write item.sub_type instead of mitm[item_index].sub_type 11:47:49 -!- gammafunk has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:47:54 oh i see now, your last point was in addition to the first points 11:47:58 <|amethyst> then again, that would only help with the code after the loop 11:48:07 <|amethyst> ah, yeah 11:48:36 <|amethyst> then again, one extra copy of a few hundred bytes every time we make a shop is 11:48:48 <|amethyst> not exactly painful 11:49:02 forget dominoes, this must be the real reason levelgen is taking so long now ;) 11:49:25 <|amethyst> well, I guess every time we put an item in a shop, but still 11:50:03 i think i'd first push it back, then dec, then make item a ref to shop.stock.back() and do the id/blood/pos/link etc. 11:50:38 <|amethyst> that works too 11:57:53 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 12:00:13 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:08:54 -!- KurzedMetal has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:10:57 -!- quik has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:11:18 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 12:13:21 -!- Sharkman1231 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:15:15 -!- shnurlf has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:15:48 -!- OCTOTROG has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:17:07 -!- OCTOTROG has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:18:55 -!- OCTOTROG has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:21:46 -!- siepu has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:23:54 -!- KurzedMetal has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:25:00 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:25:38 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.17-a0-1108-g19f5157 (34) 12:27:59 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 12:32:58 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:42:23 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 12:46:22 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 12:53:00 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 12:56:18 -!- pintc has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:58:05 -!- pintc has quit [Changing host] 13:02:10 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 13:02:36 -!- CcS has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:02:49 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 13:02:57 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:03:36 -!- sk3 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:03:57 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:05:48 -!- tcsc has quit [Read error: Connection timed out] 13:06:13 -!- tcjsavannah has quit [Quit: tcjsavannah] 13:08:36 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 13:09:29 I'm looking forward to tonight to see how much faster recompiling will be 13:09:44 with ccache 13:10:46 <|amethyst> nightly trunk rebuild probably won't be improved that much 13:10:55 <|amethyst> since most days there is a change to a widely-included header file or such 13:10:58 johnstein: oh, did you find out the past place to modify PATH 13:11:23 |amethyst: I think johnstein enabled ccache in the crontab PATH, but I wasn't sure if there was a more convenient location 13:11:27 <|amethyst> I do it in the do-updates script itself 13:11:45 <|amethyst> don't remember what I do for the rebuild trigger, let me check 13:11:57 gammafunk: I put it in crawl-dev's .bashrc and also in the crontab 13:12:12 and last night my ccache actually has stuff in it 13:12:26 johnstein: then you should be fine, yeah, I'm just wondering if there's a better location overall 13:12:39 but yea, I bet I might have to do more to handle the rebuild trigger 13:13:07 right, the rebuild trigger would be yet another instance 13:13:14 seems like it should go in the build script 13:13:16 in dgl I guess 13:14:21 <|amethyst> yeah, looks like it's in crawl-dev's .bashrc and that seems to work for the rebuild script 13:14:46 <|amethyst> oh sorry, no 13:14:49 <|amethyst> it's in sudoers 13:15:22 <|amethyst> that's how the trigger handles it (since it does sudo -u crawl-dev dgl update-trunk ) 13:15:33 ah, that works as well 13:15:51 hrm, but for cron? 13:16:02 <|amethyst> secure_path=/usr/lib/ccache:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/sbin:/usr/sbin 13:16:17 <|amethyst> gammafunk: for cron I handle it in the do-updates script itself (the one the crontab calls) 13:16:22 gotcha 13:16:38 <|amethyst> but you could also put it in user crawl-dev's crontab and put it there rather than /etc/crontab 13:17:02 .bashrc is only for interactive shells, right? 13:17:18 so calling a script through /bin/bash won't source this? 13:17:39 assuming there's no virtual terminal attached 13:18:10 gammafunk: yes, although you can tell bash to treat it as a login shell (ie, load bashrc and friends) 13:18:18 yes, so I see from the info page 13:18:29 <|amethyst> but note that login shells and non-login interactive shells are different 13:18:40 <|amethyst> it also matters whether argv[0] is "sh" 13:18:50 <|amethyst> and whether stdin is a network connection 13:18:57 johnstein: so it looks like you'll need something for the rebuild trigger, maybe what |amethyst said for sudoers 13:21:29 <|amethyst> (I think it also depends on which sign of the zodiac Mercury rises in) 13:24:39 jupiter is in the fifth house, time to use zsh instead 13:24:41 * gammafunk sacrificies a death yak to /bin/bash. /bin/bash begins to execute... 13:25:50 <|amethyst> wheals: no, that's sixth house. Fifth house is ksh93 13:26:59 now I have to figure out if stats were wrong about shops also in 0.15 13:28:24 looks like it 13:35:21 -!- CacoS has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:37:47 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 13:42:21 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 13:45:01 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 13:53:42 really? i made that change in 0.16 development 14:00:57 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:05:11 -!- IMP has quit [Client Quit] 14:11:43 -!- stubbly8 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:15:41 mefis231 (L27 GrFi) ASSERT(!cell_is_solid(pos()) || is_tracer && can_affect_wall(grd(pos())) || affects_nothing) in 'beam.cc' at line 1302 failed. (Zot:2) 14:20:59 oh, hrm 14:23:57 -!- Crawl_Bacchus has quit [Quit: Look what I got, Bart, a Tickle-Me Krusty doll!] 14:26:36 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 14:28:34 -!- tupper has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 14:28:34 -!- Azzkikr has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 14:28:38 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 14:28:58 wheals: yeah, you're right, the shop stats are ok in 0.16 14:29:01 er 0.15 14:36:17 -!- ldf has joined ##crawl-dev 14:42:58 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:44:21 -!- Utrick has joined ##crawl-dev 14:56:33 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:57:46 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 15:02:48 -!- tcjsavannah has quit [Quit: tcjsavannah] 15:10:56 -!- Chance672 has quit [Quit: Leaving my desktop..... laptop possibly?] 15:13:59 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:17:10 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 15:21:17 -!- driftwood has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.2] 15:26:33 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 15:33:19 -!- robbje has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 15:38:42 -!- zxc232 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:38:43 -!- stubbly8 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:47:07 -!- Torax_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:49:08 -!- ldf has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:52:04 -!- seriallo_ has joined ##crawl-dev 15:54:55 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.17-a0-1109-g92c31d1: Reword and adjust some species and background descriptions 10(18 minutes ago, 2 files, 35+ 34-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/92c31d1ab5be 15:54:55 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.17-a0-1110-g19bd574: Tweak some spell descriptions 10(17 minutes ago, 1 file, 5+ 6-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/19bd5742dfe8 15:54:59 -!- seriallos has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:56:19 -!- Krakhan has quit [Changing host] 15:57:02 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]] 16:00:29 -!- tcsc has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 16:01:32 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 16:02:06 -!- mefis231 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:04:26 -!- crate has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:06:18 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 16:08:40 -!- SwissStopwatch has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 16:09:38 -!- gadzooksjinkiesa has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:11:13 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 16:17:44 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:18:29 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:35:45 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:38:27 -!- LexAckson has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:44:46 Doesnt (L19 FoAs) ASSERT(in_bounds(mg.pos)) in 'mon-place.cc' at line 4031 failed. 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My feeling is that if we're concerned about meph being too strong against certain powerful enemies, we should make it less likely to confuse powerful enemies; we shouldn't make confusion weirdly different for them. 19:28:52 PleasingFungus: OK, I'll let marvinpa know. 19:29:56 !tell marvinpa That could be accomplished either by making meph confusion odds scale quadratically with HD (rather than linearly), or by making it check MR instead. The latter might be better, but I'd have a harder time predicting the results. 19:29:56 PleasingFungus: OK, I'll let marvinpa know. 19:30:30 %git 1e85cf02 19:30:31 07wheals02 * 0.16-a0-2945-g1e85cf0: Remove the shop hack. 10(6 months ago, 15 files, 184+ 169-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/1e85cf02c125 19:37:07 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 19:38:26 -!- muravey has joined ##crawl-dev 19:41:13 -!- MolotoveVGC[mac] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:43:46 PleasingFungus: "isn't also, fwiw, ghouls can't currently worship any gods that have uses for corpses unless you count yred's animate dead, I guess" an exception so major it destros the rule? 19:44:49 I would count that as closer to a spell than anything 19:45:00 also I guess kiku can torment with corpses 19:45:05 forgot about that 19:45:51 wait, so which gods disallow ghouls? 19:46:27 -!- mamgar has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 19:46:35 fedhas and beogh 19:46:47 the remaining corpse prayer gods 19:49:20 the E/Z/1 trinity disallow ghouls 19:49:35 but don't have anything to do with corpse sac 19:49:43 no, they don't. but chequers asked which gods 19:51:04 New branch created: pull/39 (1 commit) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/39 19:51:04 03amalloy02 07[pull/39] * 0.17-a0-1111-g1012d28: Spelling 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/1012d2856ca8 19:51:52 03amalloy02 07* 0.17-a0-1111-g1012d28: Spelling 10(4 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/1012d2856ca8 19:51:52 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.17-a0-1112-g770ba12: Merge pull request #39 from amalloy/master 10(19 seconds ago, 0 files, 0+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/770ba1202b0e 19:51:56 -!- WalkerBoh has joined ##crawl-dev 19:54:38 -!- Elystan has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:56:01 -!- stubbly8 is now known as stubblyhead 19:56:29 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20:00:16 -!- seriallo_ has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 20:01:02 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:04:10 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:07:15 Clarify the description of the Formicid's Dig ability 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9737 by quik 20:14:50 <|amethyst> Berserk is another one with a similar problem 20:15:36 <|amethyst> Trog's ability only lists "Hunger", and the evokable ability doesn't even list that 20:17:17 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20:17:57 -!- tabstorm has joined ##crawl-dev 20:19:02 ah. beogh surprised me 20:20:44 you're surprised beogh doesn't accept ghouls? 20:20:56 ghoulish orcs 20:21:24 oh yeah heh 20:22:42 i think it would be a pity to remove ghoul rotting over time since it's basically the closest thing to a working, fun food clock 20:23:08 but others might dispute either of those 20:23:11 or both 20:25:06 i think it works in a technical sense, but when i'm at 50/50(51) and I didn't butcher that rat that I autoexplored away from, it's not very fun 20:26:32 !lg * current trunk !boring / won 20:26:38 1539/103304 games for * (current trunk !boring): N=1539/103304 (1.49%) 20:26:58 wheals: I haven't been paying attention to the ghoul discussion but I have to say I wouldn't call ghoul rotting working or fun :P 20:27:28 elliptic: i proposed removing it https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=16237&p=222016 20:28:30 (I think it just doesn't do anything significant at all except create annoying messages) 20:28:30 the only time ghoul rotting is ever a concern is if you're playing as a worshipper of gozag or if you're in a corpseless branch 20:28:39 how much do guardian mummies rot with their death curses? 20:28:47 I think like 10-20? 20:28:57 that sounds unlikely 20:29:10 chequers: I would prefer no ghoul rotting over current ghoul rotting, yeah, though possibly the concept is reworkable in some way to be go 20:29:12 od 20:29:30 ??necromancy miscast 20:29:30 necromancy miscast[1/1]: By severity: 1: Slowing, (living) 5-19 dmg, rotting. 2: 1-3 shadows, (living) draining, 15-37 damage. 3: Reaper, soul eater, 1-7 statloss, draining, (living) severe rot, or torment. 20:29:48 time to source dive 20:30:47 <|amethyst> I'd kind rather get rid of ghouls than just making them foodless or carnivorous 20:31:18 <|amethyst> though I guess "troll with worse claws who can wear armour" is still pretty distinctive 20:31:27 <|amethyst> s/kind/kind of/ 20:31:41 more like up to 5 20:31:59 (rot from necro miscast) 20:32:07 |amethyst: they are rather different from trolls 20:32:25 <|amethyst> I was thinking of the claws as the most distinctive feature 20:32:32 for ghouls? no 20:32:40 <|amethyst> but I guess no transmutation is more distinctive 20:32:45 i think "undead that isn't mummy or super weird" is 20:32:47 |amethyst: ghouls are basically the most normal undead 20:32:53 what wheals said 20:33:24 <|amethyst> hm 20:34:16 no food limitations with undead resists yet terrible stats and poor aptitudes 20:34:53 <|amethyst> gammafunk: doesn't that describe mummy too? 20:35:03 <|amethyst> (well, potions) 20:35:18 mu have ok stats and the no potion thing and rF- are really huge, yeah 20:35:37 !apt gh 20:35:38 Gh: Fighting: 1, Short: -1, Long: -1, Axes: -1, Maces: -1, Polearms: -1, Staves: -1, Slings: -1, Bows: -1, Xbows: -1, Throw: -1, Armour: -1, Dodge: -1, Stealth: 2, Shields: -1, UC: 1!, Splcast: -2, Conj: -2, Hexes: -2, Charms: -1, Summ: -1, Nec: 0, Tloc: -1, Tmut: -1, Fire: -2, Ice: 1, Air: -2, Earth: 1, Poison: 0, Inv: 1, Evo: -1, Exp: 0, HP: 1, MP: -1* 20:35:50 yeah their apts aren't really even poor 20:36:01 -!- stubblyhead has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:36:07 it's their stats that made me think that 20:36:28 <|amethyst> never noticed they had +2 stealth 20:37:03 nearly enough to justify ghmo^dith 20:37:05 !apt mu 20:37:05 Mu: Fighting: 0, Short: -2, Long: -2, Axes: -2, Maces: -2, Polearms: -2, Staves: -2, Slings: -2, Bows: -2, Xbows: -2, Throw: -2*, Armour: -2, Dodge: -2, Stealth: -1, Shields: -2, UC: -2*, Splcast: -1, Conj: -2, Hexes: -1, Charms: -2, Summ: -2, Nec: 0, Tloc: -2, Tmut: -2, Fire: -2, Ice: -2, Air: -2, Earth: -2, Poison: -2, Inv: -1*, Evo: -2, Exp: -1, HP: 0, MP: 0 20:37:06 <|amethyst> I guess because that used to be a 1 20:37:28 anyway, I just pushed another suggestion for Gh: double rot amount from all sources 20:37:28 justify ghmo^dith? 20:37:30 not sure what that means 20:37:39 ghouls are also rather diesel unarmed fighters with +1 fighting +1 UC +1 HP and claws 20:37:42 -!- FatShack has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:37:55 chequers: and still have eating chunks cure rot? 20:38:04 I think it still leaves rotting as insignificant for ghouls, since chunks cure like 10hp 20:38:07 elliptic: yeah 20:38:34 elliptic: i like chunk healing, but now that healing fixes rot it makes rot completely unimportant strategically for Gh 20:38:58 03chequers02 07[pull/38] * 0.17-a0-1107-gd607daf: Double rotting amount for Ghouls. 10(11 minutes ago, 1 file, 3+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/d607daf7316a 20:39:01 rot was already completely unimportant strategically for Gh 20:39:01 I mean, is rot important strategically for anyone? 20:39:01 because chunks already fixed rot 20:39:01 you just cure it 20:39:02 also that 20:39:04 well, in tomb? 20:39:06 or did newrot actually change anything? 20:39:14 it made it more optimal to cure it right away 20:39:29 anyway, I'm not super attached to this commit, but I wanted to suggest it in case people thought I was trying to buff Gh 20:39:33 (I haven't played with newrot) 20:40:10 -!- FatShack has joined ##crawl-dev 20:41:39 !source trove.cpp 20:41:39 Can't find trove.cpp. 20:41:55 !source trove.cc 20:41:56 Can't find trove.cc. 20:42:09 is what you would want, but that file doesn't exist 20:42:11 where would I find code related to trove stuff? specifically on the part of the code that determines what is valid for entering a trove? 20:42:39 johnstein: generally try e.g. "grep -i -H trove *.cc" 20:42:46 or something equivalent in your editor 20:42:47 <|amethyst> but that won't help here 20:42:59 yeah if it's all in the lua 20:43:10 <|amethyst> dat/dlua/lm_trove.des and others 20:43:11 then you might do a find in dat/dlua 20:43:17 or just in dat 20:43:48 <|amethyst> hm, where is the list of trove tolls 20:43:55 johnstein: for stuff in dat you can do something like "find dat -type f -exec grep -i -H trove {} \;" 20:44:10 an vim and emacs have nice find utilities 20:44:37 <|amethyst> aha 20:44:44 <|amethyst> the actual list of trove tolls is in 20:44:56 <|amethyst> !source dat/des/portals/trove.des 20:44:56 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/portals/trove.des 20:45:05 gammafunk: honestly grep -r trove . is fine too 20:45:20 depends on your definition of fine 20:45:20 find is cool, but for simple stuff you can get by with just rgrep 20:45:25 vim has nice find utilities?? 20:45:38 I don't like binary file matches etc 20:45:47 but that would work well for dat probably 20:45:56 the question I was asked was "will a eudemon blade count for a demon blade trove toll?" 20:46:02 <|amethyst> yeah, it's annoying when I grep -R in source and it spends forever searching the binaries :) 20:46:09 so I was trying to figure out how to show the person why or why not 20:46:19 rather than simply asking in ##crawl and relaying the response 20:46:39 I don't see 'eudemon' in trove.des 20:46:46 I think that's a different base type 20:46:49 so wouldn't be accepted 20:47:01 well I guess subtype 20:47:04 to be more exact 20:47:06 <|amethyst> if this_item and item.sub_type == it.sub_type 20:47:06 <|amethyst> and item.base_type == it.base_type then 20:47:15 yea. that was my suspicion. I was just trying to see if I could clearly find it. 20:47:20 and |amethyst, thanks :) 20:47:20 -!- FatShack has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 20:48:49 <|amethyst> though I can never remember which things are implemented as attributes and which as argumentless functions 20:49:47 -!- FatShack has joined ##crawl-dev 20:49:47 <|amethyst> so as far as I know that expression could always true because they have the same methods 20:49:47 <|amethyst> s/have/are/ 20:52:35 <|amethyst> oh, I guess you're supposed to tell by seeing whether it uses IDEF or IDEFN ? 20:52:59 <|amethyst> would be nice to have some kind of convention though 20:53:43 -!- tcjsavannah has quit [Quit: tcjsavannah] 20:54:01 <|amethyst> we have had bugs before because we had a lua object with a method where someone expected a data attribute 20:58:03 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 20:59:55 -!- Crawl_Bacchus has quit [Quit: Look what I got, Bart, a Tickle-Me Krusty doll!] 21:01:24 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 21:01:54 -!- serq has quit [Quit: leaving] 21:07:28 -!- FatShack has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 21:08:43 -!- FatShack has joined ##crawl-dev 21:13:35 -!- FatShack has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 21:14:17 -!- FatShack has joined ##crawl-dev 21:16:24 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:16:56 -!- gressup has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:18:27 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:18:50 -!- Lawman0 has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 21:19:53 03gammafunk02 07* 0.17-a0-1113-g1dfc193: Properly count items in shops for Objstat 10(2 hours ago, 3 files, 16+ 7-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/1dfc19394fa5 21:19:53 03gammafunk02 07* 0.17-a0-1114-gae93c2e: Constify 10(88 minutes ago, 2 files, 5+ 5-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/ae93c2e9ef1b 21:19:53 03gammafunk02 07* 0.17-a0-1115-g0372368: Tweak the shield offset of the orc warlord tile 10(4 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/0372368345f6 21:24:01 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:29:00 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 21:32:33 <|amethyst> ouch: http://www.reddit.com/r/dcss/comments/36sfer/yavp_first_win_spen/ 21:33:20 <|amethyst> ??is cdo down 21:33:22 is cdo down[1/1]: 1 hours, 14 minutes, 59 seconds since last activity (cdo) 21:33:59 ??goodreddit[vaults 21:33:59 goodreddit[1/9]: yeah i hear that, such as,for example, i havent actually ascended with hte orb, but ive had like 3-4 characters where i died in vaults but you know, i count them as wins because the character was (imho) capable of doing zot. 21:34:05 taking it literally i see 21:34:30 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 21:35:41 ??goodreddit[2 21:35:41 goodreddit[2/9]: So I've beaten Crawl three times now with three builds. I'm hoping to finally do a full 13-rune run. 21:35:45 ??goodreddit[3 21:35:45 goodreddit[3/9]: i too personally know in irl some real amazing dudes, at crawl, they are like 4-5x times better than elliptic at least. and they all say that minotaur enchanters are super easy, and that if you play a minotaur enchanter and lose, well, your a big noob. none of them play online though for reasons which i wont elaborate on right now 21:36:05 xddx 21:40:36 -!- mamgar has quit [Quit: Exit Stage Left] 21:43:23 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 21:48:23 -!- Hanyuu has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:52:10 -!- bunge has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 21:52:16 So, question about branch pull/38 21:52:40 would it mean that gh no longer have a food clock? or am I misreading it? 21:54:16 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 22:01:38 -!- sk3 is now known as ktgrey 22:01:46 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 22:10:14 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 22:16:00 -!- LexAckson has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:22:54 magicpoints: iirc, yes 22:33:30 -!- copt has quit [] 22:34:47 PleasingFungus: I hope you were indeed pleased by ae93c2e 22:35:47 %git ae93c2e 22:35:47 07gammafunk02 * 0.17-a0-1114-gae93c2e: Constify 10(3 hours ago, 2 files, 5+ 5-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/ae93c2e9ef1b 22:35:57 I am! 22:36:03 hahaha 22:36:05 the comment 22:36:08 *commit message 22:36:27 I have learned to accept const monster * const mons 22:37:38 <3 22:39:53 %git 462ffe77529f28f9dede2b770e8e12409c38eea4 22:39:53 07MarvinPA02 * 0.14-a0-3574-g462ffe7: Don't let the boots of the Assassin work with non-weapons 10(1 year, 2 months ago, 1 file, 4+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/462ffe77529f 22:40:10 !tell marvinpa What was the justification for 462ffe77529f28f9dede2b770e8e12409c38eea4 ? 22:40:10 PleasingFungus: OK, I'll let marvinpa know. 22:40:39 yeah 22:40:45 breadstab 22:40:54 ontoclasm: that is a justification for reverting the commit 22:40:56 imo 22:41:18 yes 22:41:22 if the boots are capable of letting you stab with things like giant blunt maces, clearly they should be able to let you stab with stuff like a book 22:41:27 or bread 22:41:40 sadly you can't pick up corpses and thus can't crabstab 22:42:30 fr: claws of the crab unrand 22:42:32 rip corpse pickups 22:42:35 glove unrand I guess? 22:42:43 so when will ctele removal go into trunk 22:42:51 it's a mystery to everyone. 22:42:57 and what will happen to speedruns as a result 22:43:39 they'll be slower; probably not that much slower. 22:43:47 that' sok. 22:44:12 I suspect ctele removal might also justify panlord-pursuit removal. I feel like we might have gone too hard on the anti-rune-ninja side of things. 22:44:14 not sure. 22:44:32 definitely doesn't need to happen at the same time, or even necessarily in 0.17, if it happens at all. 22:46:34 -!- Dynast has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:51:08 -!- rast has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:51:52 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 23:02:52 -!- fethyl has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:06:19 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 23:09:01 -!- Crawl_Bacchus has quit [Quit: Look what I got, Bart, a Tickle-Me Krusty doll!] 23:14:06 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 23:16:54 -!- Brannock has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 23:22:16 -!- seriallos has joined ##crawl-dev 23:26:36 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.17-a0-1115-g0372368 (34) 23:27:48 -!- KurzedMetal has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:29:48 -!- Athaboros has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 23:31:01 that reddit 3 rune no-orb thing is funny 23:31:11 do you get a prompt if you try to exit without the orb? 23:31:31 <|amethyst> Are you sure you want to leave the Dungeon? This will make you lose the game! 23:32:01 maybe it could mention "You haven't collected the Orb of Zot yet!" 23:32:35 <|amethyst> I imagine the message was not read, rather than read and not understood 23:32:42 <|amethyst> so adding to it won't really help 23:33:01 well, I'm thinking that religious abandonment requires two prompts, surely this should too? :D 23:34:54 <|amethyst> I guess a double prompt would be reasonable 23:35:01 or a yes prompt 23:35:22 but as just said, he probably didnt really read it and might not anyway 23:35:27 with a forced yes 23:36:52 <|amethyst> we did use to have "Are you sure you want to win?" 23:37:03 -!- DrStalker has quit [] 23:37:35 -!- neunon has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:38:44 does the " teleport takes you to a spot fairly close to something hostile, not completely random. Even if you dont land in LOS of something theres almost certainly something close-by." only apply to *Tele? 23:39:09 -!- neunon has joined ##crawl-dev 23:39:11 <|amethyst> yes, it's only teleportitis 23:40:27 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 23:40:35 -!- seriallos has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 23:44:29 -!- WalkerBoh has joined ##crawl-dev 23:44:40 http://sprunge.us/cQBj Subject: [PATCH] Double-check orb-less ascensions. 23:46:12 <|amethyst> chequers: err 23:46:31 <|amethyst> chequers: might want to double-check your logic :) 23:47:00 <|amethyst> or maybe your parentheses 23:47:15 <|amethyst> I think you want !(yesno && (tut || yesno)) 23:47:32 <|amethyst> or maybe the demorgan of that 23:52:42 <|amethyst> "Without the Orb of Zot, your [life|existence] outside the [root branch] would be meaningless and unfulfilling. Are you sure?" 23:53:46 <|amethyst> Neil the Mummy Summoner succumbed to ennui on level 0 of the Dungeon. 23:56:34 rip MuSu