00:00:18 nice 00:03:11 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.17-a0-849-g0c87caa (34) 00:03:53 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:07:14 -!- Brannock_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 00:07:52 i don't understand what's going on in this game. i've mutated supernaturally acute vision, but i don't have SInv on the character sheet, and invisible stuff is hitting me 00:08:57 i think it's because i've temporarily mutated blurry vision as well? but instead of cancelling out it dispays as having both 00:11:25 you shouldn't be able to get those two mutations at once, i thought 00:11:56 -!- meatpath has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 00:12:02 oh, temporary mutation 00:12:46 actually, this case is specifically handled in code 00:12:51 !source player::can_see_invisible#7215 00:12:52 Can't find player::can_see_invisible#7215. 00:12:54 !source player::can_see_invisible 00:12:54 1/2. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/player.cc#l7239 00:12:59 7215 00:15:19 -!- KurzedMetal has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:16:39 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.17-a0-849-g0c87caa (34) 00:19:29 huh. is that fix new? i'm playing on 0.16 00:19:53 oh wait. i see, it's doing what i experienced. saying i can't see invis 00:20:16 which is fine, btu then the messaging is wrong: the temp mutation shouldn't say i have acute eyesight and blurry vision, if it's acting like i have neither 00:21:27 -!- dplusplus has joined ##crawl-dev 00:23:17 !source item_def 00:23:18 1/2. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/externs.h#l580 00:26:53 -!- Siegurt has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 00:27:30 -!- kazimuth has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. 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02:02:56 -!- rophy has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:03:09 you can't shoot projectiles at all while berserk 02:03:40 I never knew that 02:03:42 only bow bashing :P 02:03:52 that's a bummer 02:03:57 I kept doing f . f . f . 02:04:07 and all that did was give yiuf a lot of free turns to hit me 02:04:44 that sucked 02:04:49 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:05:18 |amethyst: tell me how my code sucks 02:05:38 -!- Doesnt has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:05:40 -!- lessens has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 02:05:40 -!- lessens_ is now known as lessens 02:06:36 -!- SomeStupidGuy has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 02:07:12 -!- TR_Muscateer has joined ##crawl-dev 02:10:56 -!- Doesnt has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:10:57 -!- Whistling_Bread has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 02:20:14 -!- NeremWorld has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 02:25:15 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.17-a0-849-g0c87caa (34) 02:25:42 -!- Pacra has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 02:25:55 -!- elmdor has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:28:21 -!- Reawakening has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 02:28:53 -!- Nerem has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 02:32:05 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 02:32:36 -!- schistosoma has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:41:09 -!- filthy has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 02:42:47 -!- qoala_ has quit [Quit: Abscond!] 02:43:25 -!- Siegurt has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 02:53:34 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 03:04:26 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 03:06:56 -!- ByronJohnson has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:08:55 -!- buki has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:10:48 -!- tgcid has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:11:19 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:13:55 -!- ChongLi has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:17:54 -!- TR_Muscateer has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 03:27:50 -!- Sose has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:28:24 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 03:29:49 -!- zxc232 has joined ##crawl-dev 03:30:50 -!- nikheizen has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [Firefox 37.0.2/20150415140819]] 03:31:03 -!- Blazinghand_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:46:09 -!- kroki has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:50:46 -!- pikaro has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 03:51:50 -!- stubblyhead has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 03:52:25 -!- pintc has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 03:55:39 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 03:57:57 -!- muravey has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 03:58:20 -!- muravey has joined ##crawl-dev 03:58:59 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 04:05:26 -!- mumra has joined ##crawl-dev 04:11:33 -!- __miek has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 04:13:20 -!- Foamed has quit [Quit: Leaving] 04:14:21 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 04:15:18 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:23:09 Svalbardcaretaker (L24 OpAs) ASSERT(shop) in 'shopping.cc' at line 2458 failed. 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Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-ng.org/] 05:42:46 -!- pikaro has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 05:42:58 !tell |amethyst I might want to rename my server at some point. Is it possible to batch-change the location of the replays and other files when it comes to tv and score? 05:42:59 TZer0: OK, I'll let |amethyst know. 05:43:04 -!- pikaro has joined ##crawl-dev 05:47:18 -!- paroneayea has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:49:40 -!- nixor has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 05:50:25 -!- tgcid has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:51:44 -!- ldf has joined ##crawl-dev 05:56:27 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 05:56:39 -!- Patashu_ has joined ##crawl-dev 05:56:39 -!- Patashu has quit [Disconnected by services] 06:00:02 -!- Kolbur1 has joined ##crawl-dev 06:03:48 -!- Kolbur has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 06:10:18 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 06:11:25 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 06:14:29 -!- ktgrey has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 06:15:42 -!- Nightbeer has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:19:16 -!- Whistling_Bread has joined ##crawl-dev 06:22:48 -!- Cerpin has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 06:28:04 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 06:30:31 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 06:33:57 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 06:41:29 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 06:42:03 -!- mumra_ has joined ##crawl-dev 06:44:16 -!- mumra has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:46:02 -!- vale_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:47:26 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 06:58:36 -!- Pacra has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 06:59:33 -!- __miek has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 07:02:49 -!- ldf_ has joined ##crawl-dev 07:04:39 -!- pikaro has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 07:05:02 -!- lessens has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:08:56 -!- rossi has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:10:28 -!- mumra has joined ##crawl-dev 07:13:36 -!- mumra_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:20:18 -!- pikaro has joined ##crawl-dev 07:44:58 -!- Kolbur1 is now known as Kolbur 07:46:42 !source mutation.cc 07:46:42 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/mutation.cc 07:47:29 !tell marvinpa I don't think the MUTFLAG_RU is currently doing anything, but at one point it was being used in the "does silver do more damage" code. I left it in just to make it a little easier to see which mutations are sacrifice-only at present. 07:47:29 Lasty_: OK, I'll let marvinpa know. 07:47:39 !tell reaverb I don't think the MUTFLAG_RU is currently doing anything, but at one point it was being used in the "does silver do more damage" code. I left it in just to make it a little easier to see which mutations are sacrifice-only at present. 07:47:40 Lasty_: OK, I'll let reaverb know. 07:51:25 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 07:51:44 !tell chequers thanks! 07:51:44 Lasty_: OK, I'll let chequers know. 07:53:27 this seems like a really really minor bug: 07:53:29 !learn add lasty_to_do Swap and shrink the new Ru sac tiles 07:53:29 _Sigmund looks at you with fury. 07:53:29 lasty to do[8/8]: Swap and shrink the new Ru sac tiles 07:53:31 _There is a shaft here. 07:53:32 You fall through a shaft! 07:53:34 The shaft crumbles and collapses. 07:53:35 _In your confused state, you trip and fall through the gate. 07:53:42 i deliberately jumped down the shaft while confused 07:53:56 that final message seems wrong... 07:54:54 rast: that line indicates that you took 1 damage, which can happen when going through any level transition while confused. Seems like the message should come first tho . . . 07:55:03 also it's not a gate 07:55:07 yeah 07:55:54 -!- pikaro has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 07:56:09 !learn add lasty_to_do Clean up "In your confused state, you trip and fall through the gate" code (credit rast). Instant rot shouldn't be "rotting away" (credit rchandra). 07:56:09 lasty to do[9/9]: Clean up "In your confused state, you trip and fall through the gate" code (credit rast). Instant rot shouldn't be "rotting away" (credit rchandra). 07:56:57 -!- SomeStupidGuy has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 08:00:18 -!- MgDark has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [Firefox 37.0.2/20150415140819]] 08:08:34 -!- doubtofbuddha has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 08:11:10 -!- Kolbur1 has joined ##crawl-dev 08:11:38 -!- Kolbur has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:25:23 -!- Kolbur1 is now known as Kolbur 08:27:39 ??fort 08:27:39 fortitude card[1/1]: Damage Shaving and a bonus to strength. 08:29:12 -!- Brannock_ has joined ##crawl-dev 08:31:19 -!- quik has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 08:35:27 -!- Poroso has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:38:48 -!- Kolbur1 has joined ##crawl-dev 08:39:07 -!- radinms has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 08:41:16 -!- Kolbur has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 08:44:12 -!- NotKintak has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 08:46:30 -!- lessens_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:48:39 -!- SomeStupidGirl has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 08:49:37 -!- lessens has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 08:49:37 -!- [1]lessens is now known as lessens 08:51:17 -!- lessens_ has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 08:52:53 -!- lessens__ has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 08:52:57 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 08:54:20 -!- pikaro has joined ##crawl-dev 08:55:31 -!- Kramell2 has quit [Excess Flood] 08:58:09 -!- lessens has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 08:58:09 -!- lessens__ is now known as lessens 08:59:14 -!- lessens_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 09:02:10 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 09:09:43 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 09:10:55 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 09:11:26 -!- panicbit has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 09:13:51 -!- crate has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 09:18:15 -!- siepu has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:21:27 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 09:21:30 is there a guideline that describes what should be exposed to the user and what not somewhere? I'd like to submit some patches to make trivial information available in CLUA (for instance, does a corpse contain a skeleton or can it be zombified), but I'm not sure what information I shouldn't even try to expose. providing such patches in general is fine, right? I don't require them to be accepted if they're bad. 09:23:13 -!- bmfx has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 09:23:29 -!- Patashu_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 09:27:39 -!- SomeStupidGirl has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 09:27:42 -!- SSG is now known as Guest21667 09:28:08 <|amethyst> pikaro: nothing explicitly written, but in general it's safe to expose to Lua if (a) it appears in the monster_info class or (b) it can be deduced from the monster class alone (like having a skeleton) 09:28:08 |amethyst: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 09:28:56 -!- filthy has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 09:28:57 <|amethyst> !tell TZer0 needs updates in two places, the scoring scripts (on my end) and sequell (gr**nsnark) 09:28:57 |amethyst: OK, I'll let tzer0 know. 09:30:04 -!- jazmu has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 09:31:02 |amethyst, thanks! and to be clear, the CLUA isn't just supposed to be for internal use and has the side effect of being accessible in the .rc, it's fine if no structurally integral parts of the game use those functions? because in theory, it would be nice if everything the user _may_ know would be available to them. 09:31:06 <|amethyst> pikaro: there are things like attack base damage that are in the monster type but we don't show to users, but that's more of a UI thing 09:31:40 |amethyst, yeah, I read the discussions in the tavern, such FAQs are clear 09:32:10 -!- Guest21667 has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 09:32:20 <|amethyst> right, it's fine to add clua functions even if it isn't used in crawl itself 09:33:32 perfect! then I'll get to it - it'll probably take a while until I get familiar with how to do all this, but I'm already having fun with the .rc coding so why not take it to the next level. thanks for elaborating! 09:35:27 -!- FiftyNine has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 09:38:18 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:38:47 -!- Piginabag has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:40:28 -!- CacoS has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:43:53 -!- CcS has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 09:47:17 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 09:48:41 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 09:50:35 -!- Kolbur1 is now known as Kolbur 09:56:21 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 10:00:05 -!- lessens has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 10:00:05 -!- lessens_ is now known as lessens 10:01:07 !messages 10:01:08 (1/1) |amethyst said (32m 10s ago): needs updates in two places, the scoring scripts (on my end) and sequell (gr**nsnark) 10:01:39 !tell |amethyst not to worry. I will first use the old name, make a new one and then have a period where both are valid. 10:01:39 TZer0: OK, I'll let |amethyst know. 10:07:26 -!- meatpath has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 10:12:40 -!- lessens has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:13:33 -!- Crawl_Bacchus has quit [Quit: Look what I got, Bart, a Tickle-Me Krusty doll!] 10:18:29 -!- radinms_ has quit [] 10:24:53 so I heard some talk of Explore Mode in crawl. Did that get implemented? How does one toggle into it? I ask because I want to add a learndb entry. 10:24:58 -!- lessens has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:25:32 -!- SomeStupidGirl has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 10:29:25 CMD_EXPLORE_MODE 10:29:37 -!- dpeg has joined ##crawl-dev 10:29:41 which seems to be '+' 10:29:50 Ah, cool. 10:29:53 Thanks. 10:30:33 -!- Whistling_Bread has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 10:30:51 it isn't enabled online for non-devs on most (all) servers though 10:31:01 s/all/all?/ 10:31:02 Makes sense 10:32:18 Actually, does that make sense? Would it cause problems to allow online players to choose not to die in unlogged games? 10:33:35 elliptic: thanks for ^2 los! 10:42:13 -!- pikaro has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 10:42:21 it could count as a quit 10:45:01 -!- Xenobreeder has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:49:34 -!- enygmata has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:51:44 -!- dplusplus has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 10:52:12 rchandra: it already does, though sequell becomes a bit confused by the lack of a morgue file (it should probably write a morgue file) 10:52:20 !lg * ktyp=wizmode 10:52:21 27. neil the Vexing (L1 HuEn), entered wizard mode on D:1 (shiori_arrival_maze) on 2015-04-27 04:21:23, with 0 points after 0 turns and 0:00:02. 10:52:35 yeah a morgue would be sensible 10:53:31 possibly enabling explore mode for everyone would be okay once details like that are worked out 10:53:33 not as much for crawl, but I wanted online explore mode for nethack to play with some stuff (offline being an unplayable game, and no luck compiling on windows) 10:53:34 !lg * ktyp=wizmode -log 10:53:35 27. neil, XL1 HuEn, T:0: http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/morgue/neil/morgue-neil-20150427-042123.txt 10:57:47 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 10:59:27 03|amethyst02 07* 0.17-a0-850-g2087e5b: Doxx a translator. 10(65 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/2087e5b0650b 11:02:13 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 11:04:34 -!- CacoS has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:08:20 |amethyst: how dare you 11:08:22 <_< 11:09:55 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 11:13:23 -!- dpeg has quit [Quit: leaving] 11:18:41 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 11:24:56 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:26:12 -!- pikaro has joined ##crawl-dev 11:31:17 -!- SurpriseTRex has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:31:28 -!- AlphaQ has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 11:31:39 -!- AlphaQ_ is now known as AlphaQ 11:34:45 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 11:38:25 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 11:38:30 -!- nixor has quit [Client Quit] 11:50:57 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:55:01 -!- Sharkman1231 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:58:20 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 11:59:13 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 11:59:36 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:02:48 -!- lnr has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 12:04:24 -!- KiT_ has quit [Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de] 12:05:01 -!- lnr has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 12:05:25 -!- lnr has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 12:05:48 -!- lnr has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 12:07:02 -!- Athaboros has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:07:50 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.17-a0-850-g2087e5b (34) 12:11:10 -!- agentgt has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.7] 12:11:23 -!- lnr has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 12:11:47 -!- lnr has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 12:12:10 -!- lnr has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 12:12:28 -!- lnr has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 12:12:50 -!- lnr has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 12:13:12 -!- lnr has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 12:13:26 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:13:30 -!- lnr has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 12:13:49 -!- lnr has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 12:14:07 -!- lnr has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 12:14:26 -!- lnr has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 12:14:48 -!- lnr has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 12:15:10 -!- lnr has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 12:17:00 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 12:19:10 -!- pikaro has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 12:21:59 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 12:23:48 -!- panicbit has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 12:27:12 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 12:27:13 The build failed. (master - 2087e5b #2461 : Neil Moore): http://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/60238721 12:27:13 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 12:27:55 -!- Cerpin has joined ##crawl-dev 12:31:04 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 12:36:43 -!- Siegurt has joined ##crawl-dev 12:42:20 -!- debo_ has joined ##crawl-dev 12:45:16 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 12:56:13 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 13:00:24 -!- pikaro has joined ##crawl-dev 13:01:56 -!- mumra has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:02:09 -!- lnr has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:03:56 -!- ZChris13 has joined ##crawl-dev 13:11:27 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 13:13:24 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 13:13:29 !crashlog Svalbardcaretaker 13:13:30 21. Svalbardcaretaker, XL24 OpAs, T:59807 (milestone): http://crawl.develz.org/morgues/trunk/Svalbardcaretaker/crash-Svalbardcaretaker-20150427-092723.txt 13:14:02 just popping in to suggest my preferred solution for 9681: ban necromut for vs 13:14:13 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 13:14:19 !source shopping.cc:2458 13:14:20 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/shopping.cc#l2458 13:14:25 -!- hyperbolic has joined ##crawl-dev 13:14:30 hm, might as well put that on the ticket 13:15:53 hm, this person has an item on their shopping list in a place that does not have a shop 13:16:06 or... no, hm 13:16:08 not sure 13:16:09 anyway 13:16:10 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Client Quit] 13:18:23 -!- elliptic has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 13:20:13 <|amethyst> !tell PleasingFungus re Svalbardcaretaker's crash, I put a note at #9685. I think there is no shop because Gozag took it away on abandonment 13:20:13 |amethyst: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 13:20:13 |amethyst: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 13:21:26 -!- Siegurt has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 13:21:38 -!- Kolbur1 has joined ##crawl-dev 13:24:01 -!- Kolbur has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 13:24:31 -!- Kolbur1 is now known as Kolbur 13:26:23 -!- mumra has joined ##crawl-dev 13:27:32 -!- Alarkh has joined ##crawl-dev 13:32:57 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 13:33:01 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 13:34:15 -!- Whistling_Bread has joined ##crawl-dev 13:34:36 -!- Kolbur1 has joined ##crawl-dev 13:36:13 -!- pikaro has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 13:37:13 -!- Nobuharu has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:37:16 -!- Cerpin has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 13:37:46 -!- Kolbur has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 13:39:46 -!- Kolbur1 is now known as Kolbur 13:41:31 -!- quik has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 13:47:53 -!- hyperbolic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:49:56 -!- Kolbur1 has joined ##crawl-dev 13:51:00 in _generate_armour_type_ego, why do some base types have SPARM_NORMAL as a possible type, but some don't? eg, it seems to make egos on hats half as common as on shields for some reason, if i understand what's going on in there 13:52:42 -!- Kolbur has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 13:55:10 -!- Kolbur1 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:56:30 -!- Kolbur has joined ##crawl-dev 14:04:13 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 14:04:41 -!- pikaro has joined ##crawl-dev 14:05:29 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 14:06:47 -!- Kolbur1 has joined ##crawl-dev 14:06:56 -!- surr has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:07:23 -!- Orfax has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 14:08:57 -!- Kolbur has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 14:09:08 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 14:14:56 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:22:44 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 14:24:01 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 14:31:40 -!- pikaro has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 14:33:04 -!- stanzill has quit [Changing host] 14:33:50 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 14:40:45 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 14:49:19 -!- Yyll has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:49:53 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 14:51:15 -!- Inferior has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:51:31 -!- pikaro has joined ##crawl-dev 14:52:44 -!- aarujn has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:59:24 -!- debo_ is now known as debo 15:04:09 -!- jefkin has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 15:04:14 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]] 15:08:09 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 15:09:06 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 15:11:06 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 15:13:55 can someone explain vaults_end_rune in vaults.des to me? it claims it puts the rune into the first _prize subvault, but that set of ands/ors it uses seems like it puts the rune into any non-prize subvault, and 1/4 of the time into a _prize subvault 15:15:33 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 15:16:23 !source vault.des 15:16:24 Can't find vault.des. 15:16:28 !source vaults.des 15:16:29 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/branches/vaults.des 15:16:29 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 15:20:32 -!- orbisvicis has quit [Quit: leaving] 15:21:13 03MarvinPA02 07[stat_drain] * 0.17-a0-752-g8818f73: Make Deterioration apply stat drain upon taking damage 10(21 hours ago, 5 files, 28+ 18-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/8818f7387c10 15:23:18 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 15:23:45 i think the idea is to make the rune have an equal chance of being in any quadrant, which means that it has a 1/4th chance of being in the prize one (assuming there's only ever one, as is currently the case) 15:26:07 : if crawl.random2(13) == 12 then 15:26:28 -!- Elynae has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:26:42 (there's only an else in the rest of the if block) 15:27:50 -!- category has quit [Client Quit] 15:27:57 probably made before crawl.one_chance_in() existed 15:30:18 -!- enygmata has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 15:30:33 amalloy: since vaults_end_rune doesn't have nodup it will only be selected once 15:30:55 so like wheals said, prize vault selected first, and that gets 1/4 chance of getting the rune 15:31:23 Weapon speed "cannot be increased with skill" message ignores crosstraining 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9687 by amic 15:31:23 then there's a 3/4 chance that the next vault (not a prize vault) gets the rune, then the rune vault can't get placed again 15:32:48 well, then there's a 1/1 chance the next vault gets it 15:32:49 I think what happens is, supposing that 3/4 chance of placing it not in the prize vault occurs and the first nonprize vault gets the rune 15:33:13 then dgn.map_by_tag("vaults_end_rune") returns false 15:33:59 wheals: yeah, there's a 100% chance for teh first vault after the prize vault to get the rune 15:34:03 if that's what you meant 15:34:37 yeah, i guess it's a 75% absolute probability but a 100% probability if the prize one didn't 15:34:50 yep 15:35:15 then the rune subvault places and is removed from the map list 15:35:24 since it doesn't have nodup 15:35:50 so the next two calls to the rune function for the remaining subvaults will hit the else condition 15:35:52 -!- Earlo has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:36:11 in short it's a bit awkward, but welcome to des code 15:37:16 -!- coyo7e has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:37:25 huh you can heal stat drain in wizmode by doing &@ and then just not changing your stats 15:37:30 i learned a new thing, exciting 15:39:19 -!- zxc232 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:39:45 MarvinPA: wow, whose chances for triggering the mutation don't end up being too excessive? 15:39:51 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.17-a0-851-gdce0854: Adjust missile acquirement weighting 10(3 hours ago, 1 file, 2+ 6-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/dce0854683c1 15:39:51 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.17-a0-852-gbcbd369: Remove the Placid Magic card 10(3 hours ago, 3 files, 5+ 41-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/bcbd36998f1f 15:39:51 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.17-a0-853-ga3b8f53: Rename the Placid Magic mutation 10(3 hours ago, 4 files, 7+ 7-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/a3b8f53e79d7 15:39:51 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.17-a0-854-g4a4ba72: Adjust Powered by Pain's trigger 10(3 hours ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/4a4ba729c944 15:40:40 i don't really know! it felt pretty infrequent at 25% 15:40:44 -!- halberd has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 15:40:46 MarvinPA: it's kind of funny that you don't mention the new name in the commit title re: placid magic 15:40:57 yeah, the title is kind of 15:41:01 !glasses 15:41:02 ( •_•)    ( •_•)>⌐■-■    (⌐■_■) 15:41:03 subdued 15:41:04 oh yeah that would have made sense i guess 15:41:26 ??placid 15:41:26 I don't have a page labeled placid in my learndb. 15:41:29 ?/placid 15:41:30 Matching terms (3): placid_magic, placid_magic_card, placid_magic_mutation; entries (4): cards[1] | deck_of_wonders[1] | mutation_list[3] | placid_magic[1] 15:41:38 I'm excited to get drained to see how those %s work, all the same 15:41:38 ??placid magic 15:41:38 placid magic mutation[1/1]: The opposite of wild magic; lowers spellpower but also lowers spell failure rates. This is bad. 15:41:46 *deteriorated 15:41:50 !learn mv placid_magic_mutation subdued_magic_mutation 15:41:51 placid_magic_mutation -> subdued magic mutation[1/1]: The opposite of wild magic; lowers spellpower but also lowers spell failure rates. This is bad. 15:42:06 !learn mv placid_magic subdued_magic 15:42:06 placid_magic -> subdued magic[1/1]: see {placid magic mutation} 15:42:09 lake subdued 15:42:11 oh right 15:42:21 !learn edit subdued_magic s/placid/subdued/ 15:42:22 subdued magic[1/1]: see {subdued magic mutation} 15:43:01 i was trying to think of a thing to rename one of wild magic card/mutation, as well 15:43:03 !learn edit subdued_magic_mutation s/$/ Known as placid magic in 0.16-. 15:43:03 subdued magic mutation[1/1]: The opposite of wild magic; lowers spellpower but also lowers spell failure rates. This is bad. Known as placid magic in 0.16-. 15:43:11 yes, that would be very nice 15:43:20 what does wild magic card do now? 15:43:23 !learn add placid_magic see {subdued magic} 15:43:23 placid magic[1/1]: see {subdued magic} 15:43:28 causes miscasts on monsters in los 15:43:44 i mean really mutation names aren't visible ingame unless you look at % to see your mutations 15:43:46 MarvinPA: thanks for fixing the throwing acq thing 15:43:48 but even so 15:44:14 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 15:44:17 np, it was me who added the stealth thing thinking that it needed some replacement for the "are you carrying a blowgun" check 15:44:38 finally removing that comment now i see too :P 15:44:39 but yeah, not really necessary after all 15:44:40 does food acquire still look if you're carrying rations? 15:44:46 haha yes, clearly didn't notice that at the time 15:44:49 i don't think so 15:44:58 ??food_acquirement 15:44:58 food acquirement[1/2]: If you worship Fedhas, you get fruit! Vampires get potions of blood, everyone else gets royal jellies, rations, or honeycombs, in that order of likelihood. Ghouls don't get rations or honeycombs, and instead are most likely to get chunks. 15:45:07 ??food_acquirement[2 15:45:07 food acquirement[2/2]: Do not underestimate it. See {effo[1]} for a feasible example. 15:45:09 i specifically looked for cases where it cared what you were carrying when i removed the blowgun check 15:45:16 so hopefully they're all gone 15:45:45 si that out of date? I thought honeycombs and royal jellies were merged 15:46:02 honeycombs 15:47:03 !learn set food_acquirement If you worship Fedhas, you get fruit! Vampires get potions of blood, everyone else gets rations or royal jellies in that order of likelihood. Ghouls don't get rations or royal jellies, and instead are most likely to get chunks. 15:47:03 food acquirement[1/2]: If you worship Fedhas, you get fruit! Vampires get potions of blood, everyone else gets rations or royal jellies in that order of likelihood. Ghouls don't get rations or royal jellies, and instead are most likely to get chunks. 15:47:07 apparently ghouls only get chunks now and never permafood, i wonder if i did that 15:47:14 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 15:47:16 -!- Athaboros has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:47:24 isn't it 50-50 on ration/jelly? 15:47:32 !learn set food_acquirement If you worship Fedhas, you get fruit! Vampires get potions of blood, everyone else gets rations or royal jellies in that order of likelihood. Ghouls always acquire chunks instead. 15:47:33 food acquirement[1/2]: If you worship Fedhas, you get fruit! Vampires get potions of blood, everyone else gets rations or royal jellies in that order of likelihood. Ghouls always acquire chunks instead. 15:47:42 maybe it is, i didnt check the source and just went off learndb :P 15:47:57 -!- pikaro has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 15:47:59 type_wanted = coinflip() 389 ? FOOD_ROYAL_JELLY 15:48:07 okay, making another change to the entry too, thanks 15:48:13 to be fair I don't know what coinflip() does 15:48:22 i think you can probably guess that one ? ? ? 15:48:26 it could be a pyramidal coin 15:48:29 !learn e food_acquirement[1] s/ in that order of likelihood// 15:48:30 food acquirement[1/2]: If you worship Fedhas, you get fruit! Vampires get potions of blood, everyone else gets rations or royal jellies. Ghouls always acquire chunks instead. 15:48:31 haha 15:48:47 !learn set food_acquirement If you worship Fedhas, you get fruit! Vampires receive potions of blood, Ghouls receive chunks, everyone else gets rations or royal jellies. 15:48:47 food acquirement[1/2]: If you worship Fedhas, you get fruit! Vampires receive potions of blood, Ghouls receive chunks, everyone else gets rations or royal jellies. 15:49:02 !learn edit food_acquirement[1] s/everyone/and everyone/ 15:49:02 food acquirement[1/2]: If you worship Fedhas, you get fruit! Vampires receive potions of blood, Ghouls receive chunks, and everyone else gets rations or royal jellies. 15:49:26 ??food acquirement[2] 15:49:26 food acquirement[2/2]: Do not underestimate it. See {effo[1]} for a feasible example. 15:49:54 1learn e food_acquirement[2] s/feasible/infeasible 15:50:04 a infeasible 15:50:27 I love the comment which talks about pure-shield MDs and formics both 15:53:49 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 15:57:31 who made catoblepas again 15:57:46 hmm my compilation is complaining about the directsound 15:59:10 Wensley 15:59:46 -!- Smee has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:00:09 weird sound isn't built by default AFAIK 16:00:52 can I tell it not to build that? 16:01:02 maybe SOUND=n? or SOUND= 16:01:18 OTOH, i'm not sure why it's using directsound either, since it should be using SDL 16:01:54 looks like the MinGW block turns it on unconditionally 16:02:11 SOUND = YesPlease 16:02:11 DEFINES_L += -DWINMM_PLAY_SOUNDS -D__USE_MINGW_ANSI_STDIO 16:02:19 -!- Krakhan has quit [Changing host] 16:02:23 -!- CcS has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:02:40 -!- Sose has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:03:27 huh 16:06:59 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 16:07:34 looks like that was added in 04985d4ec 16:07:43 -!- Limulus_ is now known as Limulus 16:07:48 %git 04985d4ec 16:07:48 07Grunt02 * 0.16-a0-2569-g04985d4: Make sound support / building against SDL2_mixer compile-time optional. 10(5 months ago, 5 files, 34+ 8-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/04985d4ec976 16:10:32 ZChris13: were you looking to pick my brain for more pearls of transcendant game design? 16:10:32 Wensley: You have 3 messages. Use !messages to read them. 16:10:36 if so, see ??wcrawl 16:10:47 Wensley: no I was going to splat to a catoblepas 16:10:52 on purpose 16:11:14 but I accidentally killed it while trying to make it look convincing 16:11:20 imo catoblepas need more HP 16:11:54 anyway yeah I read wcrawl 16:11:57 it was good 16:12:05 ZChris13: +1 to all proposed catoblepas buffs 16:12:35 if I could code I would dev but I can't so haha no 16:12:39 I'll get around to it eventually 16:13:00 Wensley: theyre speed 10 now! 16:13:07 @??catoblepas 16:13:07 catoblepas (06Y) | Spd: 10 | HD: 14 | HP: 62-93 | AC/EV: 10/2 | Dam: 36 | Res: 06magic(100) | XP: 938 | Sp: petrifying cloud (2d6) [11!AM, 06!sil] | Sz: Big | Int: animal. 16:13:10 ZChris13: honestly, if you've never submitted a patch to crawl before, increasing a monster's HP is the *perfect* first contribution because you literally just need to change two characters 16:13:32 Wensley: first I need to get my own computer 16:13:36 and stop using the library 16:13:50 they'd be pretty tedious with more hp 16:14:13 but I was going to make a sticks to snakes clone called staff to snake 16:14:42 which monster you got was spellpower dependent, with a random chance of one up or one down of what you would have regularly gotten 16:15:00 rchandra: you're right, we'd need to also buff their damage so you die faster 16:15:10 36 is a lot of damage 16:15:20 imo buff HD so they hit more often 16:15:29 -!- siepu has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:15:30 @?? catoblepas hd:27 16:15:30 catoblepas (06Y) | Spd: 10 | HD: 27 | HP: 128-170 | AC/EV: 10/2 | Dam: 36 | Res: 06magic(100) | XP: 3352 | Sp: petrifying cloud (2d6) [11!AM, 06!sil] | Sz: Big | Int: animal. 16:15:39 -!- gammafunk has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:15:42 @??death yak 16:15:42 death yak (08Y) | Spd: 10 | HD: 14 | HP: 62-93 | AC/EV: 9/5 | Dam: 30 | Res: 06magic(100) | Chunks: 09poison | XP: 872 | Sz: Big | Int: animal. 16:15:55 oh man they're basically death yaks but even harder 16:15:59 why was taht one so easy 16:16:01 that 16:16:22 @??elephant 16:16:22 elephant (03Y) | Spd: 10 | HD: 9 | HP: 57-80 | AC/EV: 8/2 | Dam: 2007(trample), 5 | Res: 06magic(60), 12drown | XP: 478 | Sz: Giant | Int: animal. 16:16:24 ZChris13: less EV than death yaks 16:16:28 yeah 16:16:44 you wouldn't think such a small difference would have such a large impact 16:16:59 but then again I've seen the EV/HD hit chance tables 16:17:19 somebody mapped the propability and it's pretty funny 16:17:39 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 16:17:44 ZChris13: also, death yaks come in packs. catlobes come alone 16:17:49 hmmm 16:18:09 -!- RedFeather has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [Firefox 37.0.2/20150415140819]] 16:18:55 oh man another one 16:18:58 this is my chance 16:21:51 !tell minqmay not one, but two links that I must now erase from my browser history 16:21:51 Wensley: OK, I'll let minqmay know. 16:22:00 Wensley: I found your Lair:$ vault 16:22:07 three catoblepas this level 16:22:14 I'm starting the transfer from the old server to the new one. 16:22:37 Replays will be rsynced now and also on wednessay 16:22:51 at which point I will take the old server down and fire up a new one 16:22:55 -!- MIC132 has joined ##crawl-dev 16:22:55 -!- MIC132 has quit [Client Quit] 16:22:58 *wednesday 16:23:11 saves/settings/etc. will be transfered. 16:23:44 four catoblepas 16:23:57 ZChris13: you're going go get sooo stooooned 16:24:07 TZer0: yeah I think I'm dead now actually 16:24:43 Stoned. 16:24:45 :) 16:24:53 -!- LexAckson_ has joined ##crawl-dev 16:25:23 yeah there we go, catoblepas splat for ya, Wensley 16:25:34 no wait it was a death yak 16:25:35 haha 16:26:05 oh no I'm sorry, it wasn't yours it was evilmikes 16:27:30 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:28:37 -!- Kolbur1 has left ##crawl-dev 16:28:57 -!- LexAckson has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 16:29:31 yeah I know that vault well :P 16:29:41 I really should go through and just make an all-catlobe vault 16:29:50 catobleyak 16:29:51 call it wensley_420 16:32:11 Wensley: lair ending vault? or late D with stone giants or something 16:32:38 imo stoned giants 16:34:13 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 16:34:16 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:36:09 <|amethyst> ZChris13: http://www.foxsports.com/mlb/story/Josh-Hamilton-marijuana-San-Francisco-Giants-fans-stands-102810 16:36:51 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 16:37:30 <|amethyst> amalloy: AFAICT you are right, that SPARM_NORMAL exists to give hats half the "normal" chance of having an ego 16:37:54 <|amethyst> amalloy: I guess because, for the races that can't wear helmets, hats are a rare treat anyway 16:38:45 ahhh, i wondered what that map_by_tag was for. i didn't realize it would return false/null if that tag has already been placed. now it makes sense 16:41:25 <|amethyst> well 16:41:27 <|amethyst> if it fails 16:41:51 <|amethyst> it's not necessarily a problem to place more than one map with the same tag 16:42:23 <|amethyst> e.g. you will have plenty of maps tagged "decor" over the course of a game 16:42:41 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 16:43:38 <|amethyst> it only fails if 1. there was only one map with that tag, the map isn't allow_dup, and it's already been placed; 2. the tag was uniq_blah (or the relevant maps had uniq_blah) and something with the same uniq_blah tag was placed; or 3. something else weird happens (all the suitable maps veto, for example) 16:43:54 -!- Whistling_Bread has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 16:44:56 <|amethyst> that's weird 16:44:58 |amethyst: oh, are unique monsters always generated via a vault? i knew you could have, eg, uniq_nikola to say your vault contains nikola, but it sounds like you're saying that when nikola is placed "wandering" in some random place, that's achieved by using a single-tile vault tagged with uniq_nikola? 16:45:28 <|amethyst> well, be careful 16:45:35 amalloy: the tagging works a bit differently than that, but Nikola is placed with the vault uniq_nikola 16:45:43 <|amethyst> the uniq_* *tag* is different from vaults named uniq_* 16:46:01 if Nikola appears in another vault, the uniq_nikola vault will detect that and not place 16:46:14 oh right, tagged, not named 16:46:26 <|amethyst> when the game wants a unique, it does essentially dgn.map_by_tag("place_unique", 0, true) 16:46:59 <|amethyst> Grunt: do you know why dgn_map_by_tag looks at argument 1 and 3 but never 2? 16:47:15 |amethyst: that function's probably been rewritten a few times; let me look 16:47:29 <|amethyst> Grunt: I assume there used to be another argument passed as #2, it went away, but we didn't want to update all the callers 16:47:58 -!- stanzill has quit [Quit: au rev] 16:48:05 <|amethyst> (the true there meaning "only give a map where the DEPTH: fits" 16:48:06 <|amethyst> ) 16:48:41 <|amethyst> the unique tag is, for example uniq_anthill (on a couple of vaults in mini_monsters.des) 16:48:54 <|amethyst> that means "only place one map with this tag over the course of the game" 16:49:06 <|amethyst> such maps are usually *not* placed by tag (or not by that tag anyway) 16:49:13 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 16:49:18 <|amethyst> but rather by depth or chance or whatever 16:49:24 -!- renton has quit [Client Quit] 16:51:04 <|amethyst> (I still want to split off select-by tags ("*_entry" "place_unique" etc) from selection-affecting tags (uniq_* luniq_* allow_dup) from mechanical tags (generate_awake, no_pool_fixup, etc) 16:51:08 <|amethyst> ) 16:51:25 <|amethyst> (not sure whether that should be three categories or two, though) 16:52:59 wow 16:52:59 Grunt: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 16:53:25 |amethyst: guess when the missing parameter was removed and what it was 16:57:16 -!- Aryth has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.0.4 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/] 16:57:44 -!- driftwood has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:58:07 <|amethyst> Grunt: hm... was it "minivault or not"? 16:58:12 |amethyst: correct 16:58:20 %git fb869de 16:58:21 07greensnark02 * 0.5-a0-1554-gfb869de: [2468791] Reduce distinction between minivaults and floating vaults. All vaults are now handled by _build_vaults. 10(6 years ago, 12 files, 246+ 316-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/fb869dee39e5 16:58:21 <|amethyst> and when... long long ago? 16:58:23 <|amethyst> haha 17:03:54 -!- Alarkh has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:08:16 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 17:10:25 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 17:13:30 aw, that's a bummer. the one guy who's died to the ogre version of my card-club vault (rather than the gnoll version) did so on cwz, which apparently don't have ttyrecs for -tv 17:13:51 !log * kmap~~amalloy place=D:12 17:13:51 1. iji, XL11 OgWz, T:13013: http://webzook.net:82/morgue/trunk/iji/morgue-iji-20150423-033503.txt 17:15:24 amalloy: you'll just have to make more vaults! 17:15:26 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 17:15:58 tried make clean; make TILES=y and still getting: In file included from src/audio/directsound/SDL_directsound.h:26, from src/audio/directsound/SDL_directsound.c:31: src/audio/directsound/directx.h:96:19: error: ddraw.h: No such file or directory 17:16:11 followed by dozens more complains from SDL_directsound.c 17:16:25 rchandra: msysgit? 17:16:29 yeah 17:16:33 gcc --version gives? 17:16:45 4.4.0 17:16:51 you need to upgrade your gcc 17:16:57 see the INSTALL.txt 17:17:09 maybe you forgot to run the command to permanently enable it, if you did that 17:17:16 win-builds is what you need to use 17:17:45 thanks 17:18:02 rchandra: and when you make, you'll need NO_PKGCONFIG=y in your make command 17:18:09 just add that as an argument 17:18:22 so make TILES=y NO_PKGCONFIG=y 17:18:44 or NO_PKGCONFIG=YesPrettyPlease if you want to be cute 17:18:56 does that actually work 17:19:09 anything that's not nothing is yes 17:19:09 n1k: it defines it for any nonempty value 17:19:19 oh, good 17:19:26 including "no" 17:19:47 NO_PKGCONFIG=ForTheLoveOfGodPleaseOhPleaseJustCompileThisOneTimeItsAllIAsk 17:20:05 -!- Yllodra has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 17:21:18 -!- Dxctxrx has quit [Client Quit] 17:21:36 -!- Sovek has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 17:25:17 -!- LexAckson__ has joined ##crawl-dev 17:25:17 -!- LexAckson_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:25:50 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 17:29:17 ZChris13: I'm imagining a vault where the theme is the catlobes are prison guards for a variety of very fast monsters 17:29:30 now I wonder... if a catlobe is in a 1x1 box of grates, will it breathe every turn? hmmmm 17:30:09 i doubt it can breathe through them 17:30:18 sounds like a bug, if it can't breathe through grates 17:30:36 how will these prison guards keep the inmates slow 17:31:18 -!- debo has quit [Quit: orb spiders :(] 17:32:00 I think stoner giants is a better theme than "catlobe turrets" 17:32:11 we can have two vaults :) 17:32:16 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:32:25 where you get petrified by catlobes in a hallway and then killed by stone giants throwing rocks or something 17:32:31 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 17:32:45 we can't use stone giants directly, stone giants don't get petrified. I think 17:32:58 no the theme is that they're already stoned 17:33:19 okay well there have to be some non-stone giants in there who are there for the express purpose of getting stoned 17:33:25 yes 17:33:33 imo ogres 17:33:35 they're aspiring to greatness 17:33:42 stogres 17:34:13 something big and squishy that's going to get in your way and prevent you from running away 17:35:11 damn you for making me want to start writing crawl vaults, I'm trying to ship a fucking programming language here 17:36:43 haha 17:36:50 finish your work first, man 17:36:52 we can do this later 17:39:14 -!- mamgar has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:40:13 -!- mamgar has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:41:02 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 17:41:03 -!- mamgar has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:41:03 The build has errored. (master - 4a4ba72 #2463 : Chris Campbell): http://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/60278158 17:41:03 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 17:41:26 gammafunk: seems to be working, thanks (at least, it's reached crawl code). now to try to remember what I wanted to wizmode 17:41:47 -!- Dxctxrx has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 17:43:33 yeah, compiling crawl on Windows is a grand adventure! 17:43:39 not for the faint of heart 17:44:24 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:44:28 I had it working last year with just plain make TILES=y (console would compile and crash), so assumed all I needed was gut pull again 17:44:41 -!- the_glow has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:48:43 -!- LexAckson__ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:52:01 -!- ZChris13 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:59:01 -!- Sharkman1231 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:59:07 lul crawlcode 17:59:14 Wensley: I finally got around to landing dominoes 17:59:35 Wensley! 17:59:49 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:03:09 and I'm happy to report that formics missing a hand can still acquire 2-h weapons, somehow. 18:03:38 rchandra: i think because hands_reqd or whatever it is checks whether you're Fo and returns 1 18:04:03 they can't wield them? 18:04:18 i'd expect them to be able to 18:04:28 no they can. just looked like from teh code the acq was blocked, but it isn't 18:04:29 they can 18:04:44 ok all is well 18:06:05 there are no bugs, the expected behavior is implemented, the code is impenetrable 18:06:10 all is right with the world 18:07:04 !seen canofworms 18:07:04 I last saw CanOfWorms at Mon Apr 27 20:04:14 2015 UTC (3h 2m 50s ago) quitting, saying 'Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]'. 18:14:58 ??options 18:14:59 rcfile[1/3]: http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/docs/options_guide.txt;hb=HEAD 18:15:24 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:18:31 !source player::hands_reqd 18:18:31 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/player-act.cc#l371 18:18:50 #reqd 18:18:53 ^ is where the formicid override lives 18:21:40 that method name, what on earth 18:21:58 is "required" really too long to include in a function name? 18:22:25 "hands requested" 18:22:48 some kind of Kiku ability where she delivers body parts for you to animate 18:23:34 requisitioned 18:24:04 amalloy: ah, I did !source hands_reqd and it found one in actor.cc with no such override 18:24:11 oh I wonder if this is from pubby 18:24:25 right. i had to go digging to find the player override, which was good practice 18:24:36 -!- Siegurt has joined ##crawl-dev 18:25:58 !source hands_reqd 18:25:59 1/4. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/actor.cc#l64 18:26:01 !source hands_reqd 2 18:26:02 2/4. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/itemprop.cc#l1707 18:26:03 !source hands_reqd 3 18:26:04 3/4. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/monster.cc#l514 18:26:10 that number thing is also helpful 18:26:15 if anyone wasn't aware of it 18:26:26 -!- NeremWorld has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:26:49 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 18:27:08 !send gammafunk a helping hand 18:27:08 Sending a helping hand to gammafunk. 18:27:26 gammafunk: 18:27:34 in _generate_armour_type_ego, why do some base types have SPARM_NORMAL as a possible type, but some don't? eg, it seems to make egos on hats half as common as on shields for some reason, if i understand what's going on in there <- irrespectively: you understand and 'legacy behaviour' 18:27:35 * gammafunk sacrifices his helping hand to Ru 18:27:47 !lg * explbr=squarelos-0.17 18:27:49 16. pastorvmm the Ducker (L6 HEGl of Zin), demolished by Otrechyi the merfolk (a +0 antimagic trident) (created by the player character) on D:4 on 2015-04-27 19:36:54, with 291 points after 5741 turns and 0:41:57. 18:27:55 cool 18:27:56 nice 18:28:00 need to play with that 18:28:02 cbro, i assume? 18:28:08 !lm . explbr=squarelos-0.17 18:28:09 7. [2015-04-27 03:26:11] gammafunk the Conjurer (L8 HuWz of Sif Muna) became a worshipper of Sif Muna on turn 6554. (Temple) 18:28:13 I think the summary page is more useful though 18:28:14 beautiful 18:28:17 PleasingFungus: yes 18:28:18 yer a wizard, gammafunk. 18:28:19 * Grunt hides. 18:28:28 !firestorm Grunt 18:28:28 gammafunk gestures at Grunt while chanting. A raging storm of fire appears! The great blast of fire engulfs Grunt! 18:28:29 cbro, the BEST bro 18:28:33 !glaciate gammafunk 18:28:34 Grunt gestures at gammafunk while chanting. Grunt conjures a mighty blast of ice! The great icy blast engulfs gammafunk! 18:28:44 amalloy: almost all item gen logic is 'legacy logic', some vague mutated approximation of 17-year-old linleyisms 18:28:46 it's great 18:28:51 johnstein is our cbrobro 18:29:03 :) 18:29:13 !kw squarelostest explbr=squarelos-0.17 18:29:13 Defined keyword: squarelostest => explbr=squarelos-0.17 18:29:19 PleasingFungus: how long ago were mountain dwarves removed, again? i chuckled when i saw them used as an example in the acquire.cc comments 18:29:23 !lg * squarelostest s=char 18:29:25 16 games for * (squarelostest): 10x DDBe, HaSu, OpNe, HuEn, SpEn, HEGl, HuWz 18:29:44 http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/experimentals/0.16/branches/squarelos-0.17.html 18:29:58 heh, I like the 0.16 18:30:07 yea. that's me bein lazy 18:30:19 wow, qw made it to z:5 18:30:24 and got tiamated 18:30:39 seems to have trouble with uniques in general 18:30:44 obviously squarelos == hax 18:31:53 !lg * md trunk max=begin x=begin 18:31:54 Unknown field: begin 18:32:03 !lg * md trunk max=start x=start 18:32:05 11559. [start=2011-10-31 21:21:18 [20110931212118S]] Kyrris the Skirmisher (L2 MDSk), succumbed to a goblin's poison on D:1 on 2011-10-31 21:23:33, with 74 points after 421 turns and 0:02:04. 18:32:13 johnstein: hrm, so for this there's no per-branch summary like what I see in the Overview page? 18:32:16 bit over 4 years ago 18:32:19 *3 18:32:20 !lg pastorvmm 18:32:21 20. pastorvmm the Ducker (L6 HEGl of Zin), demolished by Otrechyi the merfolk (a +0 antimagic trident) (created by the player character) on D:4 on 2015-04-27 19:36:54, with 291 points after 5741 turns and 0:41:57. 18:32:36 removed on halloween, spooky.... 18:32:37 -!- edlothiol has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 18:32:49 I can't parse that death 18:33:11 -!- ldf has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:33:15 drew a merc card, couldn't pay, got killed 18:33:19 yeah 18:33:19 is Otrechyi a ghost who created the 18:33:25 -!- ldf has joined ##crawl-dev 18:33:25 oh 18:33:32 oooooh 18:33:51 !lg * ckiller!=killer ikiller=the_player_character s=killer 18:33:52 what do you mean, per branch? gammafunk 18:33:52 9304 games for * (ckiller!=killer ikiller=the_player_character): 430x a vapour, 317x an Executioner, 296x an orc, 264x an adder, 243x a smoke demon, 217x a white imp, 208x a hobgoblin, 201x a balrug, 181x a goblin, 173x a vampire mosquito, 169x ball lightning, 162x an air elemental, 152x a jackal, 148x a kobold, 146x an ogre, 124x a ynoxinul, 121x a bat, 117x a spiny frog, 111x a gnoll, 106x a bli... 18:34:05 http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/experimentals/0.16/branches.html 18:34:11 that? ^ 18:34:18 !lg * killer~~the ikiller=the_player_character s=killer 18:34:19 466 games for * (killer~~the ikiller=the_player_character): 8x Blork the orc, 3x Jessica the human zombie, Seifa the merfolk, Ploykuub the merfolk, Iroem the merfolk, Siluably the merfolk, Goich the gelid demonspawn, Anlijik the merfolk, Xaug the naga, Xett the merfolk, Dioso the merfolk, Twuastromo the tengu, Cuewkuh the merfolk, Taetoh the naga, Hitz the naga, Cupropuf the naga, Poilumue the mer... 18:34:31 johnstein: I mean the summary I see on the overview, but one for each branch? 18:34:31 Xaug the naga 18:34:38 haha Hitz the naga 18:34:39 *Overview 18:34:44 oh 18:34:52 !lg bonghitz4naga 18:34:53 No games for bonghitz4naga. 18:34:57 todo 18:35:15 It seems there's just that game summary page with wins, best, and recent games 18:35:22 gammafunk: no. but I could probably hack that in 18:35:31 johnstein: yeah, was more just asking 18:35:48 should be easy enough (for some definition of easy) 18:35:48 perhaps most of the info is not very helpful 18:35:56 but I won't stop you if you do! 18:36:04 heh 18:36:14 yeah it doesn't look super helpful, that info 18:36:16 I need a better process. this barely seems to work 18:36:32 fastest wins, top scores, streaks 18:36:41 those aren't really relevant for play-testing a branch 18:37:31 depends on how popular it is 18:38:06 Recent Games lists ALL games 18:38:17 so you at least have full visibility 18:38:35 can't remember how many Best Games are displayed 18:38:49 -!- filthy has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 18:39:39 looks like 10. except not always 18:40:30 -!- Cerpin has joined ##crawl-dev 18:44:11 -!- onrul has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:46:43 -!- bencryption has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.8] 18:49:28 oh yeah. also, there's a major new wordpress vuln allowing content injection via extremely long comments 18:49:34 so possibly someone should update our wordpress 18:49:36 idk 18:49:51 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 18:51:10 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 18:53:56 -!- doubtofbuddha has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 18:55:44 in webtiles, how do I send ^cmd for wizmode? 18:56:36 * 18:56:47 we 18:56:53 er 18:57:33 thanks 18:57:41 yea. should be to use * where you would do ctrl 19:00:57 -!- Azzkikr has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:02:13 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:02:54 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 19:03:37 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 19:11:02 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 19:12:14 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]] 19:13:12 https://twitter.com/TheStrangeLog/status/592840710023319552 we're famous 19:13:14 -!- Dxctxrx has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 19:15:22 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 19:18:45 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:23:27 -!- WalkerBoh has joined ##crawl-dev 19:26:41 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:27:45 -!- excalibur03 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:30:51 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 19:32:03 wheals: not the first time it seems 19:32:30 -!- tftf has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:34:50 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 19:35:52 Whelp, I'm probably too inebriated to *play* Crawl, but that doesn't mean I can't try to do some development. 19:35:56 !tell marvinpa now that powered by pain will activate at higher levels, you might need to tone down the durations on might/agility 19:35:56 chequers: OK, I'll let marvinpa know. 19:36:26 tswett: where do you think Chei came from? 19:37:19 https://github.com/crawl/crawl is the newest stuff, right? 19:38:53 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 19:38:56 *I'm* still pushing to gitorious. What day is the big bang? 19:40:24 at or before may 15th 19:40:44 Gitorious? Who's that? 19:43:18 git://gitorious.org/crawl/crawl.git, is that the person we're talking about... 19:46:13 !tell dpeg how do you feel about making gozag's potion petition more consistent for players? https://github.com/alexjurkiewicz/crawl-ref/commit/6461cd44c4077e509d4ccc40ddf6d27673c5e2d2 19:46:13 chequers: OK, I'll let dpeg know. 19:52:05 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 19:53:03 chequers: you'd need to remove the braces in the for for _gozag_add_potions 19:53:10 since it's a single statement 19:53:13 -!- mumra has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 19:53:19 unbrace will catch stuff like that 19:53:30 or should anyhow 19:55:23 ok 19:55:47 -!- bitcoinbastard has quit [Client Quit] 19:56:04 I run unbrace in my pre-commit hook 19:56:13 but you can also just run it 19:56:17 any feedback on the general idea? 19:56:18 same with checkwhite 19:56:31 actually I don't understand what is _gozag_potion_list 19:56:41 gozag offers 4 choices, each giving 3 pots? 19:56:45 it's been a while since my G game 19:56:55 it's probably better named 'gozag effect list' 19:57:11 gozag builds three potions. Those potions are made of one or two of those effect lists 19:57:14 3 choices, up to 4 but actually up to 3 since the last is a sentinel 19:57:29 i'm not really sure why it isn't just generated randomly 19:57:45 I think the goal was to cut down on probably-useless combos, like magic/might 19:57:53 but yes, I am onsidering just making it random 19:57:58 especially with dynamic pricing 19:58:39 hrm, I guess I don't know how each entry is combined to make a choice 19:58:53 adding might and magic as a possibility, my hero 19:59:08 -!- Dxctxrx has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 19:59:14 >_> 19:59:34 ??murderhole 19:59:34 I don't have a page labeled murderhole in my learndb. 19:59:50 !send a_JRPG wheals 19:59:50 Sending wheals to a_JRPG. 19:59:59 !send a JRPG wheals 19:59:59 Sending JRPG wheals to a. 20:00:03 heh 20:00:03 ??killhole 20:00:04 anti-summoning corridor[1/1]: Dig diagonally into a wall, make a 90 degree turn, disintegrate one more tile, sit in that tile. Comes from Angband, where it is used to prevent more than one thing from having LoS on you. Formicids love this, but anyone can make one with the right tools. Diagram: http://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?t=11488#p160454 20:00:25 gammafunk: the entries are just randomly shuffled 20:00:39 gammafunk: breaking murderholes would make me happy 20:01:02 so you might get the top effect list as a single potion (just hw), and then the last two effect lists as another potion (duplicates are automatically removed) 20:01:03 bh: doesn't sound very doable 20:01:27 oh 20:01:29 I see then 20:01:42 some choices he gives are just a single potion 20:01:48 i had a silly idea of giving elf sorcerers/maybe high priests a spell that turned all rock walls adjacent to you into earth elementals 20:02:06 oh, he's choosing one effect of the entry? 20:02:20 -!- Dxctxrx has quit [Client Quit] 20:02:31 gammafunk: so each entry in that list is a list of up to 3 potions 20:02:43 yes, some potions you will be offered contain just a single effect 20:02:45 he chooses either one entire entry, or two entire entries, accoding to coinflip() 20:02:54 ^ 20:03:24 -!- quik has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:04:02 well, ok, thanks everyone for explaining 20:04:08 because I'm completely confused 20:04:24 how in Zot's name did I manage to win G and be so confused about thi 20:04:26 s 20:04:42 ??potion_petition 20:04:42 potion petition[1/1]: Lets you buy one of four random lists of potion effects, with price depending on the potions offered. The lists can include most good tactical potions, and may have a bad potion added to the end. The fourth option is always a potion of porridge (or 4 potions of blood for carnivores). Works for mummies. 20:05:00 well that's clearly up to date 20:05:22 -!- dumbiiiiiiii has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:05:36 haha 20:05:49 the last sentence is right at least... 20:06:13 1 out of 4 ain't bad! 20:06:43 !variable 20:06:47 !variable blah 20:06:52 hrm 20:06:58 !source _gozag_potion_list 20:06:59 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/godabil.cc#l4172 20:08:14 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 20:09:18 -!- Orfax has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20:11:32 ok, it's clear to me now, after reading the code 20:11:47 -!- read has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:12:41 what???? 20:12:51 sounds like someone didn't read the style guide 20:13:18 -!- mumra has joined ##crawl-dev 20:13:30 chequers: magic+might isn't always useless btw 20:13:39 since god abilities and some evocations take mp 20:13:45 and casting spells and melee can be good 20:13:48 and VS 20:14:03 *some god abilities 20:14:17 well yeah, not completely 20:14:22 pity the poor cheibro who can't step from time 20:14:28 I'm just attempting to read the mind of Grunt/dpeg 20:14:38 dangerous! dangerous! 20:14:50 You gaze into Grunt's mind. You are confused! 20:14:52 especially the former 20:14:55 but also the latter 20:14:58 -!- lessens has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:14:58 -!- lessens_ is now known as lessens 20:15:32 -!- nicolae- has joined ##crawl-dev 20:15:58 If you gaze too long into Grunt's mind, Grunt's mind gazes into you 20:16:06 sounds fine to me 20:16:17 just out of curiosity, how likely is it that squarelos will make it into 0.17 20:16:18 and if you try to fight monsters, you're the real monster 20:16:55 i ask because there's a couple vaults of mine that i should try to fix up if the los changes and want to know how lazy i can be 20:16:55 -!- Sharkman1231 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:17:11 10^2% 20:17:25 10^0.02? 20:17:30 that's not a lot, wheals 20:18:10 nicolae-: are they special vaults that require exact control over los, or something? 20:18:12 so barring some unforeseen horror caused by squarelos that requires reversion, 0.17 is basically guaranteed to be square as heck, c/d 20:18:23 probably 20:18:27 * Grunt roars, causing you to lose all wits. You suddenly lose the ability to move! --more-- 20:18:27 * Sequell also roars, causing you to lose all wits. You suddenly lose the ability to move! --more-- 20:18:30 fr unforseen horros 20:18:32 thanks Sequell 20:18:34 because if they just have circles in them, you don't have to change that 20:18:35 horrors 20:18:39 oh, not the circles 20:18:42 circles are fine 20:18:46 ok good 20:18:51 elliptic fixed your eye of the storm one 20:18:54 yeah i saw 20:18:58 THANK YOU ELLIPTIC <4 20:19:07 <4 ? 20:19:20 <5 imo 20:19:24 clearly meant <# 20:19:36 <1 20:19:45 Grunt, all numbers <4 are also <5, you're welcome 20:19:45 the washed_ashore arrival vault will need tweaks because i wanted everything in the starting LOS to be beach, containment_breach maaay need a tweak or two because the orthagonal los range is 1 less, iirc 20:19:51 it's the fined right next to the only stairs 20:19:55 *fiend 20:20:01 n1k: but not all numbers <5 are <4 20:20:10 that's true, thank you 20:20:17 and i think temple_no_exploring_needed will need a change too since the gimmick there was that you could see the entire temple map upon coming down the stairs 20:20:36 %git :/bells and whistles 20:20:39 Could not find commit :/bells and whistles (git returned 128) 20:21:12 yeah 20:21:17 %git :/doodads 20:21:18 07kilobyte02 * 0.14-a0-1879-g9e9b3b7: Revert "A temple with a massive amount of doodads and decor." 10(1 year, 3 months ago, 1 file, 0+ 14-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/9e9b3b73c1ed 20:21:41 yeah i didn't want to go quite as bad as that one 20:22:12 yeah 20:22:23 i was gonna have a whole series of temple maps that didn't need exploration but discovered there's not a lot of interesting design space there 20:22:40 round maps for a square hole 20:22:44 <_< 20:23:17 do a linesprint style temple 20:23:19 every god in a row 20:23:52 hm. could be interesting. lay them out on a sine wave, maybe... 20:24:17 temple of sin 20:24:30 well now i HAVE to make it 20:24:42 a good pun deserves a vault 20:25:53 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 20:27:40 -!- Yllodra has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20:27:42 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 20:28:41 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:31:14 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 20:31:43 -!- Dxctxrx has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 20:35:31 nicolae-: keep in mind players never see the name of the vault 20:36:11 don't recommend spelling out "LOL ITS A SINE WAVE" in transparent rock above the altars either 20:36:30 nicolae- wouldn't do that 20:36:39 why would i share the puns with the *spits on the ground, sneers* players 20:36:43 it'd spell out "TEMPLE OF PIN" 20:37:03 speaking of bad puns 20:37:05 .phyte 20:37:13 -!- Zooty has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:37:13 probably be 4/5 random 1/10 "sin" 1/10 "crawl" >.> 20:37:14 4. Farquar the Fighter (L16 DsAs of Dithmenos), slain by a thorn hunter on Swamp:2 (nicolae_swamp_phyte_club) on 2015-04-22 19:55:28, with 121370 points after 43896 turns and 5:48:31. 20:38:45 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:43:49 -!- reaverb has joined ##crawl-dev 20:45:03 Re: anti-summon corrdiors: imo the problem is that digging is so common, if I was re-designing Crawl from scratch I would consider putting terrain destruction only on a couple rare effects. 20:45:46 ditch wands of digging altogether and make players use disint one at a time 20:46:07 disint is better for killholes anyway 20:46:12 does player terrain destruction need to exist at all? 20:46:29 chequers: Not really. 20:46:41 I find it really weird we have TWO wands that let you destroy rock. 20:46:45 i'd argue it adds interesting tactical options some of the time 20:47:17 i do think Dig does add something to the game in small quantities, but currently I think there's way too much. 20:47:20 -!- read has joined ##crawl-dev 20:47:21 maybe moving it from a wand to a a scroll or something might be more appropriate though 20:47:38 that might be too little 20:47:47 or, change the shape of the area dug out by digging so you can use it to get through a single-thickness wall to get into a treasure area or somesuch but that it blows out a chunk of wall instead of a straight line so you can't get a hallway 20:47:48 "Doesn't need to exist" fits that, it's not /necessary/ but I think a little bit is good. 20:48:46 -!- Dxctxrx has quit [Client Quit] 20:48:52 nicolae-: Fo used to have something like that. It was rejected for some reason, I think it was being unintitutive? (Partially because it differed from all other types of Dig. 20:48:55 ) 20:49:10 "doesn't need to exist" isn't a phrase i like very much because very little doesn't fit it 20:49:28 agree 20:49:32 wheals: That's a good point! 20:49:34 does crawl even need to exist 20:49:35 i mean 20:49:35 really 20:49:38 when you think about it 20:49:47 yes, we have a contract with the NSA 20:50:01 DCSS has to exist for reasons of national security 20:50:01 reaverb: IIRC it was reverted less because the change was bad exactly, and more since the change applied to all sources and there was really no discussion about changing digging wands 20:50:08 collecting the PII of the most privacy aware grognards who nevertheness run our code 20:50:22 wheals: Oh, hmm. 20:50:31 what was the other shape? 20:50:43 .@. 20:50:45 xxx 20:50:46 xxx 20:50:48 -> 20:50:52 .@. 20:50:53 ... 20:50:56 X.x 20:51:07 oh, like a plus shaped fireball, kinda? 20:51:09 s/X/x/ 20:51:27 nicolae-: It had a corridor continuing on from the longer space. 20:51:34 .@. 20:51:35 ... 20:51:37 x.x 20:51:38 x.x 20:51:38 basically, in addition to the line that dig has now it had the two adjacent diagonals cut out 20:51:40 bh: what are dominoes? some sort of rng-related thing? 20:51:40 chequers: are you rewriting Howl or something? 20:51:42 mumra: hello! 20:52:01 Wensley: https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=15992 20:52:02 mumra: you make vaults, right? go ahead and make a vault for me that uses catlobes and giants to make a "stoned giant" pun :) 20:52:14 Wensley: probably thinking of mu 20:52:26 mumra did make the boulder beetle trap vaults. 20:52:30 bh: ? 20:52:32 'thinking of mu' -- a new hit single by Katy Swift 20:52:33 bh: hahaha, what 20:52:41 i guess "diagonals" is wrong since if you zap dig diagonally they'll be orthogonally adjacent to you 20:52:49 chequers: " collecting the PII of the most privacy aware grognards who nevertheness run our code" 20:52:50 wheals: oh you're right 20:52:56 katy swift, that's the hunger games protagonist right 20:53:02 that reads like a Ginsburg line 20:53:47 03chequers02 07[pull/11] * 0.17-a0-754-g3ab44bc: Pull _gozag_price_potion out of gozag_potion_petition. 10(13 hours ago, 1 file, 32+ 24-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/3ab44bcad475 20:53:56 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 20:54:08 hmm. I don't need any other things to distract me, but making some wang tiles sounds like a productive use of time 20:54:21 well, herringbone-wang, right? 20:54:22 don't get me started on male american novelists, you'll regret it 20:54:26 hey Wensley 20:54:28 ??wang 20:54:29 I don't have a page labeled wang in my learndb. Did you mean: cang, warg, wong, twanging, wands, wings. 20:54:29 how are things ? 20:54:35 ??herringbone 20:54:35 I don't have a page labeled herringbone in my learndb. 20:54:42 bh: okay, this is super awesome 20:54:49 wang tiles are a non-crawl thing, they have a wikipedia page 20:54:50 -!- dplusplus has joined ##crawl-dev 20:54:51 johnstein: herringbone tiles are silly 20:54:53 Wensley: lol 20:55:03 i haven't made any vaults for a long time 20:55:10 mumra: hectic! I am living in the woods in san francisco, and by day I survive by eating mozilla's free snacks 20:55:16 Any herringbone domino set can be trivially encoded as a square tileset 20:55:30 wow nice 20:55:38 bh: so the template that CanOfWorms created is just the minimum? 20:55:58 at one time I think I had this all figured out. 20:56:37 just wondering if I wanted to expand it some more, if I have to go from the 8 to some other step (like 16 or 24 or whatever the combinations are) 20:56:59 johnstein: at the moment I'm only supporting the tileset described in the Cohen paper 20:57:04 (feels like this should be derivable) 20:57:08 mostly because I haven't developed the syntax for expressing something more complex 20:57:13 Wensley: i'm making games for a living at the moment, it's also been very hectic 20:57:24 re: digging - is there a reason why it only carves out a single corridor, instead of also hitting some adjacent tiles at random? 20:57:27 something like 20:57:59 bh: does that mean configs a, b, c, and d are all covered? (page 2) 20:58:02 http://pastebin.com/gEUu0Dvf 20:58:11 tbh I would much rather try reducing the amount of digging that exists before trying to change the shape. 20:58:21 Although that does keep the "always dig in Elf" problem. 20:58:41 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 20:58:42 bh: or is only config a (2x4) supported? 20:58:46 but that's mostly because Elf's monster set is excesively focused on ranged attacks. 20:58:52 replace the walls in elf with stone 20:59:00 well I guess the real problem is disint's blowing up a single tile 20:59:09 replace elf walls with the weird stuff that makes up pandemonium 20:59:17 johnstein: hrm? I'm not sure what you mean 20:59:42 pan elf ending?! :o 21:00:04 johnstein: it can tile an arbitrary plane 21:00:11 CanOfWorm: I bet you could make similar "killholes" with a bit more effort even if disintigrate was removed. 21:00:25 config (a) has 8 tiles (a-h). config (c) has 12 tiles (a-m), config (d) has 18 tiles (a-t) 21:00:31 oh! 21:00:41 config (b) confuses me so I ignored it 21:00:52 Particularly since no monsters in Elf trample IIRC (well I guess hell beasts) 21:00:52 I didn't realize they were adding extra colors 21:01:08 yeah, OoD is a conjuror's disint 21:01:31 Oh wow yeah OoD destroys walls too. 21:01:36 bh: yea. those were the 'steps' I was awkwardly trying to explain above 21:01:39 -!- kazimuth has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 21:01:54 Remind me, does Crawl have a Doxyfile, or is that something I came up with myself? 21:01:56 -!- bitcoinbastard has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:02:02 seems like it shouldn't be too hard to support 21:02:09 for now I'm only supporting the base tileset in (a) 21:02:12 I don't think we have a bare one, no 21:02:13 hmm 21:02:21 tswett: Crawl has some Doxygen support but no Doxyfile. 21:02:22 The hard part is telling the game which tile set to use 21:02:23 tswett: you mean a doxygen file? 21:02:28 gammafunk: yep. 21:02:35 yeah you don't need much to make one though 21:02:44 tswett: If you try to make one don't try to graph the function calls because it'll freeze your machine. 21:02:46 bh: right now, if you had more than one set, would it randomly pick one? or is that the problem you are alluding to 21:03:11 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:03:13 i.e. you added a new crypt set. does that mean someone else could add another one? or would that replace the existing one? 21:03:15 reaverb: what makes you think I don't have 64 gigs of RAM and four SSDs? 21:03:17 I want to say that wiping a 3x3 block of walls instead of a single block would make killholes harder 21:03:28 johnstein: nope. It's just hardcoded to use the eight tile set 21:03:33 ok 21:03:44 so if you target a tile with disint, every neighbouring tile gets blown up too 21:03:47 i.e. so I shouldn't work on a crypt set ;p 21:04:13 would be neato to support configs c and d and an arbitrary number of sets 21:04:16 tswett: Ok, if you have that much you might actually be able to pull it off :D 21:04:29 If you do please post the hairball here for us to see. 21:04:37 NTS: buy 64 gigs of RAM and four SSDs. 21:05:03 Also, remind me, everyone, why I'm building Crawl on my laptop. 21:05:07 I just wasted a bit of time trying to set that up a while back. 21:05:13 !learn add wang http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/um/people/cohen/WangFinal.pdf 21:05:14 wang[1/1]: http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/um/people/cohen/WangFinal.pdf 21:05:30 !learn add wang https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=15992 21:05:30 wang[2/2]: https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=15992 21:06:24 hey, I used to build crawl --- tiles --- on a 2GB netbook 21:06:27 johnstein: there's backend support for arbitrary tile sets 21:06:39 plus corner constraints and some weird stuff that I invented 21:07:14 in addition to color, I added polarity so we could support automated rotates and mirrors. but we probably don't want that 21:07:40 geekosaur: Haha, I still use a 2GB machine for compiling Crawl >_> 21:08:12 600MHz Atom though? :p 21:08:31 -!- olourkin has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:08:43 Yeah it's slightly better than that. (2.4 GHz). 21:08:46 bh: if I was going to work on a set, any recommendation on one to work on? 21:09:00 I can't imagine compiling Crawl on a computer 4x slower than this one >_> <_< 21:09:00 How about grass? 21:09:04 oh 21:09:06 I *really* hate our grass tiles 21:09:10 hmmm 21:09:12 ok 21:09:20 that sounds challenging 21:09:31 but I'm not really an artist, so anything is challenging ;P 21:09:33 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 21:10:50 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 21:11:03 it might also be possible to redo the abyss with these 21:11:35 !source rltiles/dngn/floor/grass/grass0.png 21:11:36 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/rltiles/dngn/floor/grass/grass0.png 21:12:36 soooo, replace grass_{n,s,e,w,ne,nw,se,sw} ? 21:12:41 -!- reaverb1 has joined ##crawl-dev 21:13:04 I compile in 1g 21:13:13 if you think you can outdraw those. My art is really awful 21:13:16 -!- ldf has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 21:13:19 (which has crawl games running too) 21:13:20 -!- reaverb has quit [Disconnected by services] 21:13:26 -!- reaverb1 is now known as reaverb 21:15:14 bh: how do the crypt_domino variations work? 21:15:22 does it just pick a random a,b,c? 21:15:52 yes 21:17:30 @??ooze 21:17:30 ooze (15J) | Spd: 10 | HD: 3 | HP: 9-22 | AC/EV: 1/3 | Dam: 5 | see invisible | Res: 06magic(20), 03poison, 08acid+++, asphyx, 08blind, 12drown | XP: 8 | Sz: little | Int: plant. 21:17:32 it's a weighted selection 21:17:41 @??giant_newt 21:17:41 giant newt (03l) | Spd: 10 (swim: 60%) | HD: 1 | HP: 1-3 | AC/EV: 0/15 | Dam: 3 | amphibious, cold-blooded | Res: 12drown | XP: 1 | Sz: tiny | Int: reptile. 21:17:44 @??giant_gecko 21:17:44 giant gecko (08l) | Spd: 12 | HD: 1 | HP: 3-8 | AC/EV: 1/14 | Dam: 5 | cold-blooded | XP: 2 | Sz: little | Int: reptile. 21:24:53 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:26:11 -!- nicolae- has left ##crawl-dev 21:28:15 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 21:29:43 -!- reaverb has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:33:55 -!- Sharkman1231 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 21:34:05 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 21:34:28 -!- Athaboros has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:35:15 ??is cdo down 21:35:17 is cdo down[1/1]: 5 minutes, 18 seconds since last activity (cdo) 21:35:59 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 21:36:13 -!- kazimuth has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:38:33 -!- Siegurt has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:41:22 ??is gammafunk down 21:41:22 I don't have a page labeled is_gammafunk_down in my learndb. 21:46:21 -!- qoala has joined ##crawl-dev 21:50:13 -!- mumra has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 21:51:04 -!- namelastname112 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 21:57:18 -!- Furril has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 21:59:49 -!- Nobuharu has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:01:44 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 22:01:49 ??github 22:01:49 github[1/1]: Read-only clone of our repository on github: https://github.com/crawl/crawl 22:02:06 -!- st_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 22:02:31 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 22:06:25 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:08:08 -!- gammafunk has quit [Quit: leaving] 22:12:21 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 22:12:29 -!- mamgar has quit [Quit: Exit Stage Left] 22:19:16 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:19:49 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 22:20:14 -!- quik has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 22:25:06 did one of the sensed mosnters get renamed recently? 22:25:14 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 22:27:41 or re-glyphed? I have mons ^= { : ♫ so the name shouldn't matter 22:34:49 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:35:20 heh 22:35:21 that's good 22:35:36 I should do that as well 22:35:50 I guess it could be the other one: cset ^= invis_exposed 22:41:20 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 22:47:01 looks like it's the trivial sensed monster still being on { 22:48:02 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 22:50:34 ah got it, it's my fault: I recolour trivial sensed in the list of lightblue things, and apparently changing its colour in one place and glyph in the other is not proper 22:50:44 *darkblue 22:51:56 -!- PsyMar has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:53:15 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 22:54:49 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 22:55:12 -!- KurzedMetal has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:01:16 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 23:05:51 -!- gressup has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:07:07 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 23:10:39 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 23:23:31 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]] 23:26:57 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.17-a0-854-g4a4ba72 (34) 23:32:21 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 23:33:29 -!- Athaboros has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:42:58 -!- meatpath has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 23:47:43 -!- paroneayea has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:53:04 -!- Brannock_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 23:56:52 -!- floatRand has joined ##crawl-dev