00:00:58 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 00:01:06 I like how it says "search found more than 1252 matches" 00:01:07 more than??? 00:01:09 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 00:01:17 it's giving a fairly precise number but not bothering to be accurate about it? 00:01:37 Stable (0.16) branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.16.1-18-g436b03c 00:02:48 whenever my thanked post count % 50 is less than 3, you cant go to the last page because of the deleted ones or something. it sucks 00:02:56 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 00:03:04 Make some setting was set to 27 pages? 00:03:43 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.17-a0-776-gd86b262 (34) 00:05:55 -!- reaverb has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 00:12:18 Killer Kraken. land Kraken with blink and magic attacks and tentacles change colors 00:12:27 -!- eb has quit [] 00:12:52 Stable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.16.1-18-g436b03c (34) 00:16:46 -!- Bcadren has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 00:17:05 -!- Menche has 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weapon with Tukima's dance 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9680 by Xentronium 01:00:41 -!- Evablue has quit [Client Quit] 01:03:59 -!- zerkmund12 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 01:05:45 -!- Evablue has quit [Client Quit] 01:07:14 -!- Basil has quit [Read error: No route to host] 01:08:46 -!- CacoS has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:09:30 -!- lessens has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 01:09:30 -!- lessens_ is now known as lessens 01:15:18 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 01:17:37 New branch created: pull/12 (1 commit) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/12 01:17:37 03chequers02 07[pull/12] * 0.17-a0-747-g1440dcb: Remove aevp-based speed penalty for UC/throwing. 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 3+ 6-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/1440dcb6af8a 01:17:39 -!- ClawlessVictory has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:17:39 bring on the bright future of slightly better UC for gda wearing trmos: 01:18:31 -!- zerkmund13 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 01:19:30 -!- Evablue has quit [Quit: Evablue] 01:27:19 -!- zerkmund14 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:28:36 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 01:29:34 -!- Krakhan|2 is now known as Krakhan 01:29:34 -!- Krakhan has quit [Changing host] 01:29:47 -!- stubblyhead has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:31:17 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 01:32:34 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 01:33:41 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 01:37:19 -!- panicbit has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:42:27 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 01:44:38 |amethyst: I pushed an update to panlord resist so the resist profile more closely matches the existing distribution, and uses mrd as suggested 01:46:35 -!- namelastname112 has quit [Client Quit] 01:48:00 03chequers02 07[pull/4] * 0.17-a0-629-g3e685a0: Simplify pan lord rF/rC calculation. 10(9 days ago, 1 file, 38+ 8-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/3e685a0c5e45 01:52:48 -!- sooheon has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 01:53:05 03chequers02 07[pull/4] * 0.17-a0-629-ga00ac2b: Simplify pan lord rF/rC calculation. 10(9 days ago, 1 file, 40+ 8-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/a00ac2b41c80 01:57:56 -!- zerkmund15 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:59:26 -!- halberd has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:01:40 -!- CacoS has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:04:05 -!- Siegurt has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 02:04:35 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 02:07:53 -!- crate has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:08:10 -!- lessens has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:08:10 -!- lessens_ is now known as lessens 02:10:11 is that a thing that's worth buffing? 02:11:32 -!- Basil has joined ##crawl-dev 02:15:01 -!- Yllodra has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 02:15:23 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:16:34 -!- muravey has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:16:54 -!- muravey has joined ##crawl-dev 02:20:32 -!- qoala has 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Sose has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:37:57 -!- InbredPolarBear has quit [Quit: Page closed] 08:38:05 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:46:42 -!- Athaboros has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:47:15 -!- caryoscelus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 08:49:20 -!- Brannock_ has joined ##crawl-dev 09:01:41 -!- SomeStupidGuy has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 09:02:44 -!- wat has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 09:07:21 -!- KurzedMetal has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 09:16:16 -!- PolkaDot has joined ##crawl-dev 09:17:12 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.17-a0-777-g32247ce: Fix fire dragon description (9678) 10(65 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/32247ce65925 09:19:14 new fire dragon tile incoming? 09:20:12 oh nm. I missed the other commit 09:20:25 %git :/Turn fire dragons red 09:20:25 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.17-a0-562-gfd539b1: Turn fire dragons red (Marbit, Bloax) 10(10 days ago, 13 files, 6+ 6-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/fd539b1f2706 09:23:38 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 09:24:14 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 09:24:56 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:25:48 -!- radinms has quit [] 09:30:09 -!- onget has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:33:16 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 09:34:59 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 09:37:06 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 09:38:09 -!- myp has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 09:39:58 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 09:44:45 -!- Evablue has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 09:48:08 -!- paroneayea has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:48:16 -!- meatpath has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:48:38 -!- paroneayea has quit [Changing host] 09:49:22 -!- Athaboros_work has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:53:07 -!- gammafunk has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 09:57:07 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 09:59:38 -!- siepu has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:04:18 -!- Lightli has joined ##crawl-dev 10:07:15 -!- MgDark has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [Firefox 37.0.2/20150415140819]] 10:16:16 -!- Sose has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:21:13 -!- Spatzist has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:24:38 -!- SomeStupidGuy has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 10:25:01 -!- Fangorn_ has quit [Quit: leaving] 10:27:56 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:28:37 VS cannot cure rot gained under Necromutation 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9681 by twist 10:29:58 -!- FiftyNine has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 10:32:12 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 10:36:38 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 10:37:23 !lg face 10:37:24 252. FACE the Warrior (L20 VSWr of Ashenzari), mangled by a tentacled starspawn in WizLab (wizlab_lehudib) on 2015-04-24 04:18:43, with 293046 points after 45604 turns and 5:52:21. 10:37:28 excellent 10:37:34 !lg face -tv 10:37:35 252. FACE, XL20 VSWr, T:45604 requested for FooTV: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 10:41:42 !log face 10:41:42 252. FACE, XL20 VSWr, T:45604: http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/FACE/morgue-FACE-20150424-041843.txt 10:42:32 !tv face 10:42:33 252. FACE, XL20 VSWr, T:45604 requested for FooTV: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 10:44:44 -!- Athaboros_work has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:49:21 -!- nixor has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 10:51:09 -!- mopl has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:55:24 -!- Athaboros_work has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:59:26 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 11:00:27 -!- SurpriseTRex has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:09:58 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 11:11:33 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 11:11:34 -!- myp has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 11:11:46 should petrified hydrae be able to grow heads? 11:12:17 a buddy just mentioned he saw that 11:13:03 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 11:15:23 there's a mantis ticket about it 11:16:48 -!- zxc232 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:19:05 -!- Hanyuu has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:19:27 yeah, it's been discussed on and off 11:20:01 {rF+++ MP-9 Str+3 Dex-2}. 11:20:06 that makes itYe see 'ere tha +4 rin' mail o' Lifelessness {rF+++ MP-9 Str+3 Dex-2}. 11:20:13 that makes it rC+++, rN+++ and rF+++ so far this game 11:20:23 -!- staplegun has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:20:23 funnily enough i can get all of them simultaneously too 11:20:27 nice 11:20:30 !bug 9665 11:20:30 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9665 11:20:32 if anyone was wondering 11:20:37 could, rather 11:20:59 !crashlog Dagoth 11:21:00 10. Dagoth, XL12 HaGl, T:13396 (milestone): http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/Dagoth/crash-Dagoth-20150424-080552.txt 11:27:45 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:28:14 > 11:28:59 < 11:29:24 . 11:29:40 ? 11:29:45 / 11:29:48 - 11:30:16 ~ 11:30:21 \ 11:30:23 | 11:30:26 / 11:30:28 - 11:30:28 ~ looks correct 11:30:47 Ѯ 11:30:51 !!! 11:30:59 ☃ 11:31:37 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:32:00 💖 11:32:04 -!- onyhow has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:32:12 � 11:32:12 🐙 11:32:38 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 11:39:48 -!- reaverb has joined ##crawl-dev 11:43:08 -!- Athaboros_work has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:43:12 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [Firefox 37.0.2/20150415140819]] 11:49:24 -!- reaverb has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 11:51:00 !sourc dbg-objstat.cc 11:51:04 !source dbg-objstat.cc 11:51:05 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/dbg-objstat.cc 11:57:32 -!- Athaboros_work has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:58:16 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 12:02:44 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:02:47 -!- Athaboros_work has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:03:30 Stable (0.16) branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.16.1-18-g436b03c 12:03:47 thanks pleasingfungus 12:06:38 -!- mumra has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:07:33 -!- Athaboros_work has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 12:07:56 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.17-a0-777-g32247ce (34) 12:08:58 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:17:26 -!- Insomniak` has quit [Quit: I like to rock] 12:23:35 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 12:25:05 -!- onyhowy has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:32:25 -!- Sharkman1231 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:36:35 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 12:41:10 -!- Evablue has quit [Quit: Evablue] 12:42:19 -!- doubtofbuddha has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:42:54 Hi guys! Should trunk still post a char-dump link in the chat windown in respose to a "#" command? 12:43:25 (I'm on crawl.berotato.org webtiles) 12:43:47 -!- mumra has joined ##crawl-dev 12:47:19 -!- pintc has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:48:03 <|amethyst> aarujn: depends on the server being set up for it 12:49:24 -!- Basil has joined ##crawl-dev 12:49:30 <|amethyst> johnstein: looks like CBRO is missing the morgue_url setting in config.py ? # isn't displaying the URL in chat 12:50:00 -!- ClawlessVictory has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:51:14 cool 12:56:40 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 13:00:56 -!- Voker57 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:01:24 -!- edlothiol has joined ##crawl-dev 13:02:27 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 13:07:41 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:11:17 -!- Yllodra has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:19:40 -!- Sose has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:21:27 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 13:32:24 well now 13:32:24 so what do you all think of "Zombies continue to rot after being reanimated, keeping the original rot timer. They would rot down to skeletons and then crumble back to dust." 13:32:33 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 13:32:45 cute 13:32:47 it gets rid of the "wait for x turns before animating dead" behaviour 13:33:22 hrm, hwo does said behaviour benefit the player? 13:34:51 as in, after killing some monsters, you are possibly better off resting first and then animating dead 13:35:13 ah, yeah that makes sense 13:35:13 -!- Whistling_Bread has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:35:41 the rot idea is cute, although I'm notsure how the rot timer compares to the current timer 13:35:44 simulacrum was always kind of like this (keeping track of when the chunk will rot) 13:36:15 it is probably too slow of a timer, yeah 13:36:24 I suppose another problem is the message spam 13:36:29 from zombies rotting to skeletons 13:37:00 that and simulacrum don't have a way to degrade, but they're also harder to make, so I guess that's not a problem 13:37:52 minmay: but you could simply take said rot timer and just apply a scaling factor 13:37:57 simulacrum need a way to degrade? can't they just evaporate like they...already do? 13:38:16 well I mean the problem would persist for simulacrum weven with this change, no? 13:38:34 gammafunk: they would evaporate when the corpse would rot 13:39:02 <|amethyst> do simulacrum and animate dead currently have the same timeout? 13:39:10 yeah I suppose the key thing here is when their timer starts 13:39:13 that's what this change is about 13:39:41 gammafunk: how would you scale it though? say you want zombies to expire twice as fast as the corpses, either you keep the original problem, or you make it impossible to animate a corpse that is more than 50% rotten 13:41:03 clearly animate skeleton, animate dead, and simulacrum need to be turned into statuses like DChan 13:41:41 <|amethyst> hm 13:41:42 now that I think about it, I'm still not sure what the problem is 13:42:02 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 13:42:09 <|amethyst> would animate skeleton under this scheme use the remaining time on the corpse, or the time it takes a skeleton to rot? 13:42:33 <|amethyst> because if it's the latter it has the same problem (rest until the corpse rots down to a skeleton, then cast) 13:42:38 merge all 4 undead raising spells into a single spell whose effect is dependent on spellpower :v 13:43:33 -!- ZChris13 has joined ##crawl-dev 13:44:28 yeah, it might be more awkward than the problem deserves 13:45:03 <|amethyst> minmay: I guess the difference here from summoning spells is that the latter don't have a permanent cost? 13:45:12 <|amethyst> so you can cast them both before and after resting 13:45:34 well If you cast animate immediately and then rest, you still get the benefit of being safer while resting 13:45:40 it's not like there's no benefit 13:46:38 if you cast immediately, you do lose duration of those allies relative to time they're alive after you're back at full health, compared to casting after rest 13:46:41 oh my god 13:47:06 <|amethyst> my concern would be that (assuming corpse rot timer continues over to chunks, too) it makes it more difficult to tune food balance and necromancer balance independently 13:47:19 <|amethyst> I do kind of like the idea though 13:47:34 necromancer here meaning Ne? 13:47:47 <|amethyst> "players that animate corpses" 13:47:50 right 13:47:56 <|amethyst> Ne, DK, someone who finds a book of unlife,... 13:48:00 <|amethyst> err, I guess not DK 13:48:09 !lg neil dk won 13:48:10 No games for neil (dk won). 13:48:14 missed your chance... 13:48:25 <|amethyst> oh, that too 13:48:28 gammafunk: old versions still exist 13:48:31 <|amethyst> wrong in two ways 13:48:33 !lg . dk won 13:48:34 1. SGrunt the Demonic Blade (L27 DsDK of Yredelemnul), escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2013-02-12 03:14:56, with 1378258 points after 111824 turns and 6:14:43. 13:48:35 rip 13:48:49 ZChris13: jokes exists, you seem to have trouble getting them sometimes 13:49:02 <|amethyst> hmm 13:49:14 * |amethyst goes to play a 0.16.0 DK 13:49:22 !lm . --DK alive 13:49:23 1. [2014-11-16 21:25:57] gammafunk the Torchbearer (L1 VSDK of Yredelemnul) began the quest for the Orb on turn 0. (D:1) 13:49:25 -!- Hanyuu has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:49:28 DrKE lives in fear of this 13:50:03 <|amethyst> oh, that doesn't work either 13:50:24 <|amethyst> next thing you know, you'll tell me that Twisted Resurrection was removed 13:50:44 rip (but not really, since they're resurrected) 13:51:48 also 13:51:49 .moon 13:51:51 23. [2015-04-24 17:56:03] Presto the Hoplite (L21 GrFi of Okawaru) entered Lehudib's Moon Base on turn 52303. (Vaults:3) 13:51:53 .gmap 13:51:53 140. FACE the Warrior (L20 VSWr of Ashenzari), mangled by a tentacled starspawn in WizLab (wizlab_lehudib) on 2015-04-24 04:18:43, with 293046 points after 45604 turns and 5:52:21. 13:51:56 er 13:51:59 ..wait 13:52:08 !lg presto grfi x.>=21 13:52:08 <|amethyst> !lg * killer~~crawling_corpse 13:52:08 Unknown field: x. 13:52:09 No games for * (killer~~crawling_corpse). 13:52:11 !lg presto grfi xl>=21 13:52:11 1. Presto the Hoplite (L21 GrFi of Okawaru), blasted by a singularity (gravitational forces) (created by a moon troll) in WizLab (wizlab_lehudib) on 2015-04-24 18:00:08, with 310068 points after 53338 turns and 2:29:46. 13:52:14 <|amethyst> !lg * killer~~macabre_mass 13:52:14 No games for * (killer~~macabre_mass). 13:52:30 <|amethyst> !lg * killer~~abomination elf 13:52:31 50. irum the Minotaur Blade (L18 MiWr of Ru), slain by a small abomination (created by a deep elf death mage) on Elf:2 on 2015-04-22 22:58:26, with 244072 points after 38816 turns and 1:29:05. 13:52:34 hrm, why doesn't this show up in .gmap 13:52:41 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 13:52:43 oh 13:52:44 kmap 13:52:56 <|amethyst> !cmd .gmap 13:52:56 Command: .gmap => !lg * kmap~~gammafunk|wizlab_lehudib br!=D|Forest $* 13:53:06 I removed map since it slowed it down 13:53:11 but I guess I have to use map 13:55:54 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 13:56:50 .moon -tv:channel=moon:>$ 13:56:50 23. Presto, XL21 GrFi, T:52303 (milestone) requested for moon: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 13:57:04 oh, cwz 13:57:28 -!- Menche has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:02:32 -!- Earlo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:06:23 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 14:07:42 .moon / lg:place=wizlab 14:07:43 3/23 milestones for * (br.enter=wizlab milestone~~moon_base): N=3/23 (13.04%) 14:07:46 good 14:07:56 -!- shnurlf has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:19:36 !lg * ckaux~~singularity 14:19:37 No games for * (ckaux~~singularity). 14:19:42 !lg * kaux~~singularity 14:19:42 No games for * (kaux~~singularity). 14:19:50 !lg * killer=singularity 14:19:51 12. Presto the Hoplite (L21 GrFi of Okawaru), blasted by a singularity (gravitational forces) (created by a moon troll) in WizLab (wizlab_lehudib) on 2015-04-24 18:00:08, with 310068 points after 53338 turns and 2:29:46. 14:19:56 !lg * killer=singularity s=ikiller 14:19:56 12 games for * (killer=singularity): Gounn, Zetumukabe, Imuisies, Ferrinus' ghost, Paerux, a moon troll, Gayrrir, Kor Skor, Rozxuon, Telaom, Foakhluhi, Gemian 14:20:04 wow, singularity ghost 14:20:40 how do you die with singularity 14:21:06 !lg * killer=singularity ckiller=a_player_ghost 14:21:06 No games for * (killer=singularity ckiller=a_player_ghost). 14:21:08 er 14:21:19 !lg * killer=singularity cikiller=a_player_ghost 14:21:20 1. nomadicburrito the Conqueror (L25 MiBe of Trog), blasted by a singularity (gravitational forces) (created by Ferrinus' ghost) on Vaults:5 (vaults_vault; vaults_end_nooodl_tilted_maze) on 2015-02-06 17:31:43, with 536939 points after 60198 turns and 5:38:16. 14:21:28 !lg ferrinus vaults:5 14:21:29 2. Ferrinus the Portalist (L25 OpWz of Ashenzari), mangled by a tengu reaver (a +0 bardiche) on Vaults:5 (vaults_vault) on 2015-02-06 07:30:38, with 530642 points after 93888 turns and 12:46:43. 14:21:31 !lg ferrinus vaults:5 -log 14:21:32 2. Ferrinus, XL25 OpWz, T:93888: http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/Ferrinus/morgue-Ferrinus-20150206-073038.txt 14:21:42 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 14:21:58 -1 AC is how 14:22:03 wow 14:22:06 but those resists 14:22:13 vitality/alchemist/that randart ring 14:22:26 MR+++++ 14:24:16 -!- dpeg has joined ##crawl-dev 14:24:25 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 14:24:49 * Grunt points at dpeg and mumbles some strange words. dpeg easily resists. 14:25:23 -!- st_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:26:01 -!- Krakhan has quit [Disconnected by services] 14:26:03 -!- Krakhan|2 is now known as Krakhan 14:26:03 -!- Krakhan has quit [Changing host] 14:27:32 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 14:28:56 -!- evilmike has joined ##crawl-dev 14:31:11 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:31:46 -!- Siegurt has joined ##crawl-dev 14:32:03 -!- Whistling_Bread has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 14:32:11 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 14:44:33 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]] 14:45:05 -!- st_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 14:47:03 -!- Menche has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:51:48 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 14:52:28 -!- Menche has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:54:25 -!- doubtofbuddha has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 14:54:28 |amethyst: ty re: morgue_url. I actually thought I did that but maybe that was DBRO 14:57:55 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 14:59:56 -!- ZChris13 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:01:34 -!- copt has quit [] 15:05:48 -!- QuailChaser has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:17:23 !cmd .gmap !lg * map~~gammafunk|wizlab_lehudib br!=D|Forest $* 15:17:23 Redefined command: .gmap => !lg * map~~gammafunk|wizlab_lehudib br!=D|Forest $* 15:17:26 .gmap 15:17:27 140. Presto the Hoplite (L21 GrFi of Okawaru), blasted by a singularity (gravitational forces) (created by a moon troll) in WizLab (wizlab_lehudib) on 2015-04-24 18:00:08, with 310068 points after 53338 turns and 2:29:46. 15:18:34 .gmap s=map 15:18:34 140 games for * (map~~gammafunk|wizlab_lehudib br!=D|Forest): 112x gammafunk_lair_enchanted_lake, 13x gammafunk_depths_water_palace, 10x gammafunk_lair_bear_cave, 3x wizlab_lehudib, 2x gammafunk_forest_water_palace 15:20:06 don't think can get far in the depths map ranking even excluding encompass because... 15:20:11 .depths-primary 15:20:12 835 games for * (br=depths lvl>1 lvl<5 kmap!~entry kmap!~uniq !depths-encompass kmap!=): 31x grunt_twisty_corner, 28x minmay_octagon_city, 24x grunt_crosshair, 22x minmay_central_circle, 21x hangedman_box_tower, 21x grunt_bent_corner, 18x little_maze_vault, 17x grunt_house_of_mirrors, 17x grunt_x_marks_the_spot, 17x hangedman_arch_fort, 16x evilmike_negative_zone, 14x grunt_arcs, 13x gammafunk_dep... 15:20:16 ...of grunt 15:20:28 it's not *entirely* me 15:20:30 <_< 15:20:40 -!- Sprort has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:20:49 water palace is just visible, maybe it'll move up a few places 15:20:54 but it doesn't place much due to its size 15:21:14 !vault little_maze_vault 15:21:14 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/variable/large_abstract.des#l187 15:21:46 it is what is says on the tin 15:22:09 that used to be vault_4 or vault_5 or 15:22:13 * Grunt checks 15:22:35 _3 15:22:38 heh 15:22:41 what about this one 15:22:42 (I have a list) 15:22:44 !vault thingy_vault 15:22:45 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/variable/large_abstract.des#l224 15:22:51 thingy_vault was vault_4 15:22:59 thingy_vault_2 was vault_9 15:23:04 haha 15:23:54 actually I think there are only four vaults from b26 that are no longer in the game in any form 15:23:59 can you guess which four? 15:24:26 (one is extremely obvious; one is semi-obvious; the other two are hilariously obscure) 15:24:36 (well I guess one less so than the other) 15:24:52 tbh I don't know what the original vaults are at all 15:25:10 most of them are still in the game :) 15:25:20 so you know them; you just don't know that you know them 15:25:36 <|amethyst> Grunt: hive? 15:25:44 Matthew Ludivico's my_map <3 15:25:45 |amethyst: beehive is the obvious one, yes :) 15:25:54 my_map is mludvico_vault and it is still in the game :) 15:26:04 !vault mludvico_vault 15:26:05 Can't find mludvico_vault. 15:26:10 Grunt: Are you sure? I thought Erik deleted it because he hated it 15:26:13 greensnark probably knows at least one of the more obscure ones 15:26:16 !vault mludvico_vault 15:26:17 Can't find mludvico_vault. 15:26:20 hmm 15:26:31 I think I have the name wrong, but it was still around last I checked 15:26:35 mludivico also had farm and country and fort yaktaur 15:26:43 !vault mludvico 15:26:43 fort yaktaur is still around 15:26:44 Can't find mludvico. 15:26:51 farm_and_country was removed though 15:27:09 tragic 15:27:28 oh 15:27:28 duh 15:27:33 !vault mludivico_vault 15:27:33 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/variable/large_abstract.des#l492 15:27:36 helps if I know how to spell 15:27:47 Oh wow 15:27:56 I didn't think that had survived 15:28:03 oh that's terrible... 15:28:31 (I sometimes wonder if farm_and_country could be reworked into something usable) 15:28:36 anyway, that's two 15:28:39 what are the other two :) 15:30:28 thingy_vault is still around, right? 15:30:35 Oh I see you mentioned it in scrollback 15:32:41 hint: the missing vaults are both encompass vaults 15:32:44 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:32:55 I like how dpeg gave thick_lines weight 1 instead of just not adding it 15:33:49 -!- edlothiol has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:34:17 -!- MrGroat has joined ##crawl-dev 15:36:05 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 15:36:39 -!- doubtofbuddha has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 15:37:20 I removed the farm & country vault because I didn't like it at all. 15:38:24 !vault thick_lines 15:38:25 Can't find thick_lines. 15:38:34 <|amethyst> Grunt: oh, I was about to ask about minivault_16 and friends 15:40:33 -!- bonghitz has quit [Client Quit] 15:42:12 greensnark: awake? :) 15:42:28 -!- elmdor has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:42:40 I don't know what happened, but I can run ./crawl again... did someone tinker with the submodules or sqlite? 15:42:48 what's terrible about mludivico? i don't have a lot of experience with vault building. it seems like a lot of good loot guarded by not very many baddies, maybe? 15:43:35 <|amethyst> dpeg: snark added a submodule but then reverted that 15:44:01 |amethyst: does not sound like a change that should've got me out of my predicament but I don't need to understand everything. 15:44:15 <|amethyst> dpeg: oh, this was the sqlite multithreaded thing 15:44:24 ah, so it did! 15:44:44 <|amethyst> err 15:44:51 <|amethyst> I meant to add a ? on that last sentence :) 15:45:02 <|amethyst> dpeg: were you using sqlite3 from the submodule or from the OS? 15:45:12 I have no idea! 15:45:21 <|amethyst> maybe the system sqlite was upgraded? 15:45:32 I am using Adam's system... so it could be possible. 15:45:35 is it clear to switch to pushing stuff to github now 15:45:40 -!- InbredPolarBear has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:46:30 -!- nixor has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 15:47:14 phew, I can lead Dowan again through the oubliette (though not to Duvessa yet) 15:47:16 <|amethyst> ontoclasm: someone needs to send out a mail to C-R-D telling everyone to do so (after doy turns off the mirrorer, which he's ready to do whenever) 15:47:56 ok 15:48:02 -!- yxhuvud has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:49:26 Lasty: there is a forum thread about expiring zombies, do you read it? 15:50:39 |amethyst: do we have something to do something like sprintf with a string object, or should I just use the << operator? 15:50:49 <|amethyst> gammafunk: make_stringf 15:50:49 fprintf(stat_outf, "%s:%02d", lid.describe(false, false).c_str(), 15:50:50 lid.depth); 15:50:55 is what I'm doing 15:50:57 ok 15:51:16 dang, I looked in stringutil, but I missed that 15:51:29 <|amethyst> hm, why not fprintf? 15:51:55 well what I'm doing is taking this and making it into a function that returns a value 15:52:01 <|amethyst> ah 15:52:07 but let me be sure that I can't just print to the file directly, now that you mention it 15:52:15 -!- Trevise has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:52:39 <|amethyst> probably having a function that returns that is nicer than having one that prints it 15:53:05 <|amethyst> since you can use the former to do the latter but not vice versa 15:53:25 |amethyst: I only need this because I can't think of a better way to designate br + level that's not a pain to sort 15:53:47 if I make two columns, one a string for branch, one an integer for level, I get weird problems when handling the all-branch summary 15:53:50 since that has no level 15:54:11 but I need two-digit level numbers with the branch:level in one column approach 15:54:28 since otherwise that column will sort poorly for e.g. zigs 15:55:11 since zig:11 will sort before zig:2 15:55:53 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 15:58:59 dpeg: I read it yesterday. It's probably changed since then. 15:59:12 At the time I read it, I didn't see anything ineresting 15:59:58 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 16:00:02 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 16:00:12 Lasty: cool. I think there is a bit, maybe I will reply. 16:01:35 I'm fine w/ extending the timer, fwiw 16:04:05 -!- Yllodra has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 16:04:50 dpeg: siegurt's idea is more flavorful, and I have no real objection to most of it, but it's a fair amount of work 16:07:03 <|amethyst> dpeg, Lasty: I haven't been following the tavern thread, but did you see minmay's suggestion here? 16:07:05 yes 16:07:17 (yes to Lasty) 16:07:45 <|amethyst> it was to make the animation timer the same as the corpse rot timer 16:07:53 <|amethyst> including degrading zombies to skeletons after some time 16:08:16 <|amethyst> so if you let the corpse sit around for a while, your zombie wouldn't last as long 16:09:12 a realism proposal by minmay :) 16:10:57 -!- Siegurt has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 16:13:01 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 16:15:02 -!- lessens has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 16:15:02 -!- lessens_ is now known as lessens 16:15:17 -!- siepu has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:16:17 -!- DrKe has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:16:54 has the animate/skeleton timer change also allowed them to use stairs? it seems like now that they're temporary you can let them come along without making necromancers brokenly powerful (and also making them not so crippled early on in a floor) 16:19:43 -!- lessens has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 16:19:43 -!- lessens_ is now known as lessens 16:19:55 amalloy: no, I don't think we want them to use stairs 16:22:08 -!- NeremWorld has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:24:01 |amethyst: I would feel good about that 16:24:23 |amethyst: I'd also be good with making them rot hp over time and just eventually lose all their maxhp 16:27:49 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 16:28:05 <|amethyst> hm 16:28:14 <|amethyst> I wonder if ENCH_SLOWLY_DYING could be repurposed 16:33:02 -!- jes__ has quit [Client Quit] 16:35:42 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 16:36:20 // If you are no longer dying, you must be dead. 16:40:42 -!- Kolbur has left ##crawl-dev 16:41:16 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:41:44 profound 16:44:01 !source mon-ench.cc:1734 16:44:01 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/mon-ench.cc#l1734 16:44:36 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1000017/crawl/logotype6.png 16:44:49 still screwing around with this thing 16:47:52 ontoclasm: oh, looks nicer! 16:48:21 what we need is a complete font 16:48:30 a DCSS font 16:48:34 -!- doubtofbuddha has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 16:48:59 hah 16:49:13 i'm dimly aware of how to make fonts 16:49:20 like, i made one ages and ages ago 16:51:14 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:53:14 -!- Siegurt has joined ##crawl-dev 16:53:30 -!- eb has quit [Read error: No route to host] 16:54:00 -!- dpeg has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 16:54:45 -!- reaverb has joined ##crawl-dev 16:54:59 i went for a sort of celtic-y look i guess 16:56:25 -!- QuailChaser is now known as Menche 17:00:01 -!- reaverb1 has joined ##crawl-dev 17:00:16 -!- reaverb has quit [Disconnected by services] 17:01:21 -!- reaverb1 is now known as reaverb 17:04:18 Re: making monster animation spells use the rot timer - another possibily would be to change the rot the timer as a secondary change. I think 80 turns or so is more than enough for any butchering to happen if necessary. 17:05:32 how long is it currently 17:05:37 feels like 200ish turns 17:06:15 I don't know how long it is currently >_> 17:07:20 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:12:04 -!- Hanyuu_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:14:20 I think corpses last around 220 turns, if I'm reading this code correctly. (rot.h/rot.cc) 17:15:19 -!- Zekka has quit [Quit: leaving] 17:16:55 err, apparently this code just handles chunks/blood potions, hmm. 17:17:35 rot.h: 17:18:02 // # of special units until fresh corpses rot away 17:18:10 special units 17:18:13 #define FRESHEST_CORPSE (FRESHEST_CHUNK / ROT_TIME_FACTOR) 17:18:18 Yeah, special units. 17:18:24 The mind boggles. 17:19:06 don't you love how crawl has like 20 different code paths for saying "this lasts k aut" 17:19:19 and absolutely none of them work the say way 17:19:21 same* 17:19:37 I've mostly managed to avoid time code >_> 17:20:26 I /think/ the comments are saying fresh corpses last 2200 auts but its really unclear. 17:20:40 -!- lessens has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 17:20:40 -!- lessens_ is now known as lessens 17:21:28 Ok yeah I found the exact code path it's 2200 auts. 17:22:04 a victory for wild guessing 17:22:19 Except for the fact it's a timed_effect. 17:22:33 And since it does auts/20, that's going to consistently round down. 17:22:43 I guess that's not a super large effect since 20 auts isn't much. 17:23:58 Actually rotting corpses is still on exactly 200 turns timing apparently (???) 17:31:41 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 17:35:48 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 17:37:35 -!- Elystan has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:39:04 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:40:45 -!- DrKe has joined ##crawl-dev 17:41:33 -!- ventricule has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:41:53 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1000017/crawl/logotype6.png 17:42:05 okay, i'm gonna say that's done for now 17:42:51 i feel like maybe i'm actually onto something this time, haha 17:44:59 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 17:46:35 -!- quik has quit [Quit: Esa telaraña, que cuelga en mi habitación, no la quito, no hace nada, solo ocupa su rincon] 17:47:19 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:47:34 Oh that looks pretty ontoclasm. 17:47:51 thanks 17:49:39 -!- filthy has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 17:50:36 ontoclasm is full of magic and beauty 17:51:11 !learn add ontoclasm ontoclasm is full of magic and beauty 17:51:11 ontoclasm[20/20]: ontoclasm is full of magic and beauty 17:51:33 now i can quote that anytime anybody disagrees with me 17:51:42 MAGIC! 17:52:43 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 17:52:51 gammafunk: So still think pushing 4 level lair rune branches tonight would be good? 17:52:55 -!- Icadius has quit [Quit: Vita brevis, lingam longus.] 17:52:56 oh crap 17:53:04 Uh, after we double-check the patch <_< 17:53:06 let me read that 17:53:16 was finishing up objstat stuff, but this is more important 17:53:27 -!- Athaboros_work has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:53:36 I'll grab the current version of the patch. 17:53:38 reaverb: do you have the patch link again? 17:53:39 yeah 17:55:05 https://bpaste.net/show/c4436f82a23e 17:58:06 -!- stubblyhead has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:59:03 reaverb: I think you'd want to move the mana viper line to the appropriate spot 17:59:06 just for consistency 17:59:14 you could put this in a branch 17:59:26 then I could just make some commits 17:59:57 then you'd get two commits storms! 18:00:46 yeah I see a few pop_ entries that are now no longer in order 18:00:59 this doesn't break anything, but we order them by min_depths, max_depth 18:01:10 What do you mean move teh MANA_VIPEER line? Move --ah. 18:01:31 If you would perfer just to add commits over mine I can push it to a branch. 18:01:39 reaverb: it might be a bit easier 18:01:42 there are so many commits 18:01:45 I didn't think there would be enough changes to make that worth doig but sure. 18:02:16 I think I'll rebase it to latest master quickly first. 18:02:18 it also makes it easier to show to others 18:02:21 sure, thanks for doing it 18:02:42 if the branch name isn't amusing though, there will be trouble 18:02:53 For some reason there have been weirdly few breaking changes over the development of this. 18:03:05 My current branch name is "lair_runes_4", any suggestions? :D 18:03:14 somehting about...cutting snakes? 18:03:14 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:03:25 more_like_lair_of_wimps 18:03:26 (I was joking though) 18:03:57 incidentally, why the change to 4? 18:04:08 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 18:04:13 -!- lessens has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:04:50 amalloy: I first proposed 3, an a couple people (like pf) thought that was too short...but almost nobody objected to 4. 18:05:07 -!- rchandra has joined ##crawl-dev 18:05:13 So I didn't see a problem trying out 4. 18:05:45 i guess what i'm asking is, do people think 5 is too long? 18:06:29 i guess the answer is obviously yes, though, so maybe i'm asking why 18:07:20 it doesn't feel particularly long to me, but because that extra level doesn't really add much to what was experienced in the previous 4 levels 18:07:40 crawl needs elf 7, lair 10, and hydra 15 18:07:58 it's nice to shorten content around concepts like water and poison because these overstay their welcome pretty quickly 18:08:37 -!- Cerpin has joined ##crawl-dev 18:10:37 -!- reaverb has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:11:15 what do the pop_ entries at depths (-infinity,0] do? 18:11:45 just allow the distribution to be a certain way for depths 1+? 18:14:18 -!- Yll has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:14:43 -!- Athaboros_work has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:15:04 -!- kazimuth has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 18:16:01 -!- lessens has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:16:01 -!- lessens_ is now known as lessens 18:16:52 -!- Cerpin has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 18:18:56 -!- nixor has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:19:23 -!- reaverb has joined ##crawl-dev 18:19:27 Sorry about my connection. 18:20:09 -!- Athaboros_work has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:20:16 gammafunk: Yes to the " distribution to be a certain way for depths 1+" question. 18:20:25 -!- Voker57 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 18:20:25 ok 18:20:28 That is why I truncated that for FLAT distributions. 18:20:46 I'm not sure that these unique adjustments are necessary, specifically removing some from branches 18:20:52 Pushed lair_runes_4 as a branch, let's see Chei go! 18:21:12 Yeah the unique commit could be removed. 18:21:23 ??githubpoke 18:21:24 githubpoke[1/1]: http://tozt.net:9876/crawl 18:21:38 ...did flag day happen when I was out? 18:21:45 nope 18:21:46 but it's getting close 18:21:47 Ok, good :D 18:21:58 New branch created: lair_runes_4 (12 commits) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/tree/lair_runes_4 18:21:58 03reaverb02 07[lair_runes_4] * 0.17-a0-778-g0ba43a4: Make Lair Rune branches only 4 levels long 10(2 weeks ago, 1 file, 4+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/0ba43a414df6 18:21:58 03reaverb02 07[lair_runes_4] * 0.17-a0-779-ga948ff3: Branch descriptions for shorter Lair rune branches 10(12 days ago, 1 file, 4+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/a948ff378cb2 18:21:58 03reaverb02 07[lair_runes_4] * 0.17-a0-780-g98fd9b3: New Snake spawn lists for shorter Snake 10(2 weeks ago, 1 file, 19+ 21-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/98fd9b395272 18:21:58 03reaverb02 07[lair_runes_4] * 0.17-a0-781-g7c595a5: Adjust level generation and vaults for shorter Snake 10(2 weeks ago, 4 files, 9+ 9-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/7c595a551f9b 18:21:58 03reaverb02 07[lair_runes_4] * 0.17-a0-782-g82d4b3f: New Swamp spawn lists for shorter Swamp 10(2 weeks ago, 1 file, 27+ 31-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/82d4b3fec677 18:21:58 03reaverb02 07[lair_runes_4] * 0.17-a0-783-gae55000: Adjust level generation for shorter Swamp 10(2 weeks ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/ae5500076b05 18:21:58 03reaverb02 07[lair_runes_4] * 0.17-a0-784-g28b766f: New Spider spawn lists for shorter Spider 10(2 weeks ago, 1 file, 17+ 19-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/28b766fea6b3 18:21:58 03reaverb02 07[lair_runes_4] * 0.17-a0-785-g01196c7: Adjust vaults for shorter Spider 10(2 weeks ago, 1 file, 10+ 10-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/01196c7e34ee 18:21:58 03reaverb02 07[lair_runes_4] * 0.17-a0-786-g44d17e5: New Shoals spawn lists for shorter Shoals 10(12 days ago, 1 file, 21+ 23-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/44d17e5f70fc 18:21:58 03reaverb02 07[lair_runes_4] * 0.17-a0-787-gad48a8f: Adjust vaults for shorter Shoals 10(12 days ago, 1 file, 9+ 9-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/ad48a8f0a0ce 18:21:58 ... and 2 more commits 18:22:07 -!- paroneayea has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 18:22:31 -!- Wah has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:23:03 I think that is the first time I have 100% legitmetly trigger the ...and X more commits thing :D 18:24:05 -!- bencryption has quit [Client Quit] 18:24:53 -!- Cerpin has joined ##crawl-dev 18:24:59 -!- Athaboros_work has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:25:06 In unrelated news it just occured to me that having a general way to handle base mutations changing in save compact would be an extremely good idea. 18:25:22