00:02:11 Stable (0.16) branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.16.1-17-g773cdaf 00:06:20 -!- meatpath has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:07:26 -!- Siegurt has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 00:09:08 -!- Siegurt has joined ##crawl-dev 00:10:52 -!- KurzedMetal has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:10:54 -!- Wah has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 00:10:59 -!- CacoS has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 00:12:33 was rpois+1 demons getting poisoned by mundane sources of poison intended 00:12:40 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.17-a0-744-gaa96792 (34) 00:12:43 or was it supposed to be just poison arrow 00:14:13 Stable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.16.1-17-g773cdaf (34) 00:14:18 <|amethyst> the commit message is unclear 00:15:11 <|amethyst> !tell wheals is it intentional that everything parrowable is also stingable? 00:15:11 |amethyst: OK, I'll let wheals know. 00:15:23 yeah, it just mentions parrow 00:15:31 but imps can be poisoned by any source of poison now, it looks like 00:15:41 im assuming that since one got poisoned by an adder 00:15:41 <|amethyst> well, it also says "it also seems wrong to me for rPois on demons to be different to rPois on natural monsters" 00:15:59 yeah, but the specific mention of parrow made me think it might not be intended 00:16:02 <|amethyst> yeah 00:16:10 <|amethyst> that's why I asked wheals 00:16:19 <|amethyst> if it hasn't been for the sentence I quoted I would just fix it :) 00:16:23 <|amethyst> s/has/had/ 00:16:26 a logical course of action 00:18:04 -!- Broken_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:18:42 -!- doubtofbuddha has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 00:19:06 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:19:20 PleasingFungus: new function I'm making 00:19:26 static void _record_equip_brand(map > > > &brands, level_id lev, item_type &item, bool is_arte, int brand) 00:19:52 it seems like some kind of typedefs might help 00:20:00 oh uh 00:20:02 yeah 00:20:06 those exist 00:20:45 <|amethyst> I'd consider making a class out of it 00:20:52 please don't make meeee 00:20:53 <|amethyst> class ItemSpreadsheet 00:20:54 <|amethyst> :) 00:21:09 -!- AlphaQ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:24:44 classy 00:25:17 -!- paroneayea has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 00:29:09 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 00:31:38 -!- Brannock_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:32:26 !lg * kmap~~amalloy 00:32:27 2. Svalbardcaretaker the Insei (L3 OpWn), slain by a gnoll (kmap: amalloy_card_club) on D:2 on 2015-04-15 12:58:17, with 46 points after 1103 turns and 0:01:54. 00:32:40 two people have been killed by my cardclub vault! gnolls OP i guess 00:32:46 -!- Spatzist has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:32:59 duh 00:38:09 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.17-a0-745-gdea6acc: Generate random names for players (Arrhythmia) 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 5+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/dea6acc2b118 00:39:59 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: hm, should it maybe keep trying if the random name happens to match an existing save? 00:40:47 odds aren't super high, and the failure case is "it tells the player they're silly" 00:40:54 which is confusing but not that bad 00:40:54 <|amethyst> oh? 00:40:55 hm 00:41:02 <|amethyst> I figured it would load the save 00:41:12 Toad (L8 TeWz) ASSERT(a) in 'itemprop.cc' at line 892 failed. (No actor in stationary net at (56,19)) (D:6) 00:41:20 um 00:41:22 hm 00:41:41 let's see. 00:42:00 <|amethyst> maybe with -seed ? 00:42:11 Toad (L8 TeWz) ASSERT(a) in 'itemprop.cc' at line 892 failed. (No actor in stationary net at (56,19)) (D:6) 00:42:20 string make_name(uint32_t seed, makename_type name_type) 00:42:21 { 00:42:23 + return "Fred"; 00:42:24 + 00:42:51 <|amethyst> oh, well, if you're going to be that way about it... :) 00:42:58 :) 00:43:29 <|amethyst> Welcome Fred, worshipper of Jiyva Fred. You see here a scroll labelled "Fred". 00:43:36 :) 00:43:39 http://i.imgur.com/DsYbw0S.png for reference 00:44:01 <|amethyst> maybe should have been "Malkovich" 00:44:03 -!- raskol has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 00:44:13 Don't think I've met him. 00:44:31 ahh, it asks "do you really want to overwrite your old game?" 00:44:38 <|amethyst> hm 00:44:48 answering 'n' loads it instead 00:44:50 -!- SomeStupidGirl has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:45:42 <|amethyst> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIpev8JXJHQ 00:45:50 <|amethyst> re malkovich 00:46:21 <|amethyst> for reference, the door there is a portal leading inside John Malkovich's mind 00:46:25 oh, for some reason I misremembered the name as being "meeting john malkovich" 00:48:50 -!- rchandra has left ##crawl-dev 00:49:49 hm 00:53:04 -!- coyo7e has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:55:09 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.17-a0-746-g953d9fb: Don't collide with existing saves (|amethyst) 10(67 seconds ago, 1 file, 21+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/953d9fb4f2ce 00:59:20 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [Firefox 37.0.1/20150402191859]] 01:01:28 -!- shnurlf has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:03:20 there's someone on cpo who plays obsessively but completely ignores my chat messages 01:03:32 they're also the only console player. I just want to ask why, damnit! 01:04:21 -!- Mekanik has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 01:05:21 (Hit _) 01:06:57 they ignore it 01:08:32 -!- mumra has joined ##crawl-dev 01:08:48 <|amethyst> chat messages? 01:09:20 -!- schistosoma has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:10:55 chequers: what player 01:11:31 !lg * cpo 01:11:31 5874. edsrzf the Insei (L4 OpTm), succumbed to an adder's poison on D:2 on 2015-04-21 05:27:49, with 98 points after 2137 turns and 0:05:29. 01:11:36 !lg * cpo tiles= s=name 01:11:37 1203 games for * (cpo tiles=): 556x edsrzf, 253x aori, 165x Kramin, 48x PWYRGhAMER, 29x alex, 27x twb, 23x miek, 19x menche, 18x paulcook, 14x qq, 11x nimbus, 4x syd430, 4x Gorbad, 3x ssteam, 2x waffy, 2x hypokramin, 2x hyperkramin, DRTEST1, Viper, neil, Blanco, Espinaca, Fuerte, Sabroso, SnapVirgin, Lebowski, chequers, Caos, Padre, Bruto, ghjkl, HOLYSHIT, qwertyuio, Roto, Simpatico, Pronto, Azul,... 01:12:59 -!- domiryuu has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 01:13:10 -!- mumra has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 01:14:53 !lg * cpo tiles= s=name week 01:14:53 131 games for * (cpo tiles= week): 131x edsrzf 01:14:59 gammafunk: ^ 01:15:08 !hs edsrzf week 01:15:09 131. edsrzf the Warrior (L21 DsMo of Qazlal), blasted by a starcursed mass (accursed screaming) on Abyss:1 on 2015-04-18 05:30:33, with 363589 points after 66581 turns and 4:59:47. 01:15:17 !gamesby edsrzf 01:15:18 edsrzf has played 558 games, between 2015-03-09 08:45:52 and 2015-04-21 05:27:49, won 3 (0.5%), high score 2310938, total score 13325101, total turns 4142482, play-time/day 6:49:39, total time 12d+12:24:58. 01:15:30 !lg edsrzf x=avg(xl) 01:15:30 558 games for edsrzf: avg(xl)=6.53 01:15:36 !lg . x=avg(xl) 01:15:36 647 games for chequers: avg(xl)=6.1 01:15:41 damn 01:16:09 !lg . !gfspeedrun 01:16:09 No keyword 'gfspeedrun' 01:16:19 it was gfspeed 01:16:28 glutenfree? 01:16:34 oh 01:16:36 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 01:16:45 !lg . !gfspeed x=avg(xl) 01:16:45 624 games for gammafunk (!gfspeed): avg(xl)=6.5 01:17:01 !kw !gfspeed 01:17:02 Expression: !gfspeed => char!=heie|hesu|deie|desu|mibe 01:17:06 not sure that stat reveals much 01:17:15 !lg greaterplayers x=avg(xl) 01:17:15 well, you cheated 01:17:16 161468 games for greaterplayers: avg(xl)=6.68 01:17:22 !lg gammafunk x=avg(xl) 01:17:22 well, no I didn't 01:17:22 2866 games for gammafunk: avg(xl)=5.49 01:17:36 i didn't exclude MY speedrunners 01:17:44 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:17:45 wow, chequers speedrunners 01:17:48 that's definitely a thing 01:18:00 my point is look at it for greaterplayers etc 01:18:06 it just doesn't reveal a whole lot 01:18:13 for elliptic it would 01:18:40 i was pretty light hearted when I said < chequers> damn 01:19:03 !lg elliptic x=avg(xl) 01:19:04 1913 games for elliptic: avg(xl)=11.18 01:19:21 !lg DrKe x=avg(xl) 01:19:22 2328 games for DrKe: avg(xl)=7.82 01:19:31 !lg tolias x=avg(xl) 01:19:31 1426 games for tolias: avg(xl)=9.13 01:19:49 !lg basil gh x=avg(xl) 01:19:50 45 games for basil (gh): avg(xl)=17.18 01:20:00 ! 01:20:09 that one is cheating 01:20:16 !lg spicerack x=avg(xl) 01:20:16 797 games for spicerack: avg(xl)=12.17 01:20:36 alt? 01:20:36 he has a few 01:20:39 !nick spicerack 01:20:39 Mapping spicerack => basil sage thyme mint allspice oregano tarragon rosemary 01:20:45 there's a theme to them 01:20:58 ah 01:21:02 still 01:22:03 -!- CcS has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:22:04 tbf I shouldn't exclude mibe I guess 01:22:11 since those are way easier speedruns 01:23:21 !lg * cpo place>d:3 s=name 01:23:21 2049 games for * (cpo place>d:3): 275x edsrzf, 188x chequers, 145x Minkie, 104x Guenter, 103x aori, 96x Fiveotanaka, 92x Sixotanaka, 70x Ultraviolent4, 65x busb, 59x morfei, 58x Kramin, 49x miek, 46x Meow, 39x DDCT, 33x binmo, 30x tijit, 28x FishServ, 27x monkeypoo, 26x DCMalleus, 21x KingBobson, 21x JohnnyRipsauce, 19x dungerino, 18x ossharkuen, 18x phoenixzeus, 16x jimeh, 16x Tomod, 16x Dunwich,... 01:23:38 !lg * cpo place>d:2 s=name 01:23:39 2865 games for * (cpo place>d:2): 348x edsrzf, 246x chequers, 198x Minkie, 175x Guenter, 151x aori, 129x Fiveotanaka, 104x Sixotanaka, 97x Ultraviolent4, 95x busb, 87x morfei, 79x Kramin, 66x binmo, 63x Meow, 57x miek, 54x DDCT, 44x tijit, 39x monkeypoo, 37x Dunwich, 34x JohnnyRipsauce, 34x DCMalleus, 33x dungerino, 32x Tomod, 32x FishServ, 29x KingBobson, 24x jorbis, 24x Shenaniganizer, 23x ossha... 01:23:54 !lg elliptic recent x=avg(xl) 01:23:54 63 games for elliptic (recent): avg(xl)=22.86 01:23:56 heh 01:23:58 that's what I thought 01:24:11 !lg spicerack recent x=avg(xl) 01:24:12 83 games for spicerack (recent): avg(xl)=18.58 01:24:18 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 01:24:32 !lg . !gfspeed recent x=avg(xl) 01:24:33 157 games for gammafunk (!gfspeed recent): avg(xl)=7.36 01:25:17 !lg Lasty recent x=avg(xl) 01:25:17 -!- Siegurt has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 01:25:17 208 games for Lasty (recent): avg(xl)=14.31 01:25:40 i think it is a meaningful stat 01:25:54 -!- Gorice has quit [Client Quit] 01:26:18 yeah berder does agree with you 01:26:19 -!- gorice has joined ##crawl-dev 01:26:59 but imo many stats can tell you something if you filter them properly, it's just that people don't bother 01:27:17 and there's a lot of noise 01:30:20 !lg . !gfspeed recent !boring x=avg(xl) 01:30:20 95 games for gammafunk (!gfspeed recent !boring): avg(xl)=8.13 01:30:24 a lot 01:30:45 !lg . boring xl>=12 s=char 01:30:45 82 games for gammafunk (boring xl>=12): 32x HEIE, 20x HESu, 5x FeCK, 5x HEFi, 3x DEIE, 3x GhEE, 2x MiBe, 2x MfSk, TrFi, FeWn, OpTm, HuFE, HOAs, FoAK, CeAM, FeWr, KoCK, DgWn 01:30:50 !lg . boring xl>=12 !gfspeed s=char 01:30:51 25 games for gammafunk (boring xl>=12 !gfspeed): 5x HEFi, 5x FeCK, 3x GhEE, 2x MfSk, FeWn, FeWr, OpTm, HuFE, TrFi, DgWn, FoAK, KoCK, CeAM, HOAs 01:31:02 !kw gfspeed 01:31:03 Keyword: gfspeed => char=heie|hesu|deie|desu|mibe 01:31:37 one of these things does not belong 01:31:40 yeah 01:31:43 well 01:31:44 !lm . 01:31:45 13930. [2015-04-20 02:23:18] gammafunk the Executioner (L22 MiBe of Makhleb) entered Cocytus on turn 26655. (Hell) 01:31:51 that one might actually be over soon 01:32:00 1nick gammafunk onlyelves 01:32:10 onlyelfdreams 01:32:40 onlydeepelves the gusty, CeAE 01:33:05 that guy who played under all the alts like "HOFE" 01:33:14 and it was actually a DgCj char or something 01:33:37 !lm gammafunk mibe x=urune 01:33:38 206. [2015-04-20 02:23:18] [urune=5] gammafunk the Executioner (L22 MiBe of Makhleb) entered Cocytus on turn 26655. (Hell) 01:33:49 figure hell 1st is easier now 01:34:00 ?/merfolkcrusader 01:34:01 No matches. 01:34:03 hmm 01:34:06 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Quit: Connection reset by pier.] 01:34:24 it probably is 01:34:44 Sapher's DDWr got lom on gloorx's level 01:34:49 but just teled into the vault 01:35:01 -!- WereVolvo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:35:15 I have so few haste I won't be able to kill many or any of those 4 01:36:02 i like to use an amulet of rage sometimes 01:36:09 that's interesting 01:36:18 it is good enough to kill most of them 01:36:25 yeah I have 3 zerk pots I think 01:36:31 ok, is it just me or does foul stench 3 do nothing except occasionally stop enemy regeneration? 01:36:40 i wouldnt do it against lom obviously 01:36:47 and maybe fsim antaeus before trying it 01:37:01 but people like gloorx should get rekt 01:37:02 it applies sickness in less than 1/3 cases, which seems to only stop regen for enemies 01:37:54 isn't foul 3 miasma 01:38:00 ??foul stench 01:38:00 foul stench[1/1]: Tier 2 Demonspawn facet. Level 1: rRot, Level 2: sicken monsters and sometimes emit miasma when damaged in melee. Level 3: emit miasma more often. 01:38:35 oh, it does create miasma clouds, which do damage to non rRot enemies 01:39:01 -!- mong has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:39:26 wouldn't is slow them as well 01:39:38 *it 01:39:47 i think not 01:39:55 <|amethyst> ? 01:39:56 <|amethyst> why not? 01:40:01 <|amethyst> ??miasma 01:40:02 miasma[1/1]: Poisons, slows and gives a 50% chance of rotting per turn. The poison is resistible by rPois but the slow and rot are only resistible (for players) by being undead, being a demonspawn with the miasma mutation, nonliving (statue form & gargoyles), having rRot (like VS do) or using Zin's vitalisation. 01:40:54 ah, it slows 33% of the time 01:41:39 yeah slow is obviously a really strong mallus vs monsters, even if it's only sometimes applied 01:41:58 <|amethyst> (BTW, maybe we shouldn't have two distinct poison+slow+damage effects that check different resists) 01:42:05 so there's a: 33% chance to sicken, 40% chance to miasma, 20% chance to do 1hp rot damage, and 13% chance to slow 01:42:20 these are all resisted differently 01:42:51 hrm, what are you describing? 01:43:00 40% chance to miasma? 01:43:03 what foul stench can do 01:43:12 oh is that learndb then just terribly wrong? 01:43:24 -!- agolden has quit [Quit: agolden] 01:43:31 this is against monsters. the code path is different for player 01:43:49 -!- cojito has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:43:55 -!- Fusha has quit [] 01:44:18 specifically, what foul stench 3 does. If monsters stay in miasma there's a 50% chance of 1dmg and 33% chance of slow per turn 01:44:50 I was thinking last night this mutation was sort of crap so am looking at ways to improve it 01:45:15 <|amethyst> except that calculation assumes miasma lasts one turn 01:45:29 <|amethyst> since it lasts more than one, a monster is probably going to be hit multiple times 01:46:06 It seemed strong when I used it on my ds 01:46:45 seems a lot better than spines 01:47:00 i wonder if Ds spines were buffed by the recent mosnter spines buff 01:47:10 but yeah, it's not the worst by far 01:47:28 -!- mumbologist has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:48:59 @??vault guard 01:48:59 vault guard (10p) | Spd: 10 | HD: 13 | HP: 56-88 | AC/EV: 9/10 | Dam: 20 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, fighter, see invisible | Res: 06magic(60) | XP: 1093 | Sz: Medium | Int: normal. 01:49:32 most things are better than spines 01:49:35 the damage is ignorable, but the stacking slow chance is reasonable 01:49:47 although spines do prevent constriction now 01:50:29 on average you need 2.5 attacks to spawn a cloud though, and then there's on average 3 attacks before you slow them 01:50:44 <|amethyst> x_chance_in_y(mut,5) 01:50:56 <|amethyst> so 60%, not 40%, at level 3 01:50:57 -!- simmarine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:51:06 oh duh 01:51:19 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:51:22 so 1.5 attacks + 3 attacks 01:52:45 in melee_attack, does damage_done total the raw or resisted/reduced damage? 01:53:27 <|amethyst> if you're not careful, it's double that :P 01:53:27 i think it's the latter 01:53:46 <|amethyst> but, yes, it's post-AC 01:54:25 where else does miasma occur in the game? wonder if changing the slow % chance would affect much else 01:54:53 hmm, the scarb thingys 01:54:55 <|amethyst> corpse rot 01:55:33 <|amethyst> various monsters 01:55:51 messy 01:55:53 <|amethyst> various vaults 01:56:01 don't really want to change all that 01:56:41 -!- Elynae has quit [Client Quit] 01:56:56 -!- Pacra has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:58:15 ??foul stench 01:58:15 foul stench[1/1]: Tier 2 Demonspawn facet. Level 1: rRot, Level 2: sicken monsters and sometimes emit miasma when damaged in melee. Level 3: emit miasma more often. 01:58:43 I think this learndb is wrong -- you can sicken monsters from level 1 01:58:59 melee_attack::emit_foul_stench doesn't behave differently for level 1 02:00:53 <|amethyst> oh 02:00:59 <|amethyst> I was wrong 02:01:19 <|amethyst> foul stench is only two levels 02:01:30 yeah my win only has two 02:01:33 <|amethyst> the facet is Rot Immunity, Foul Stench, Foul Stench 02:01:36 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 02:01:37 <|amethyst> so it is 40% max 02:02:13 so it's fine if you think of that as only part of a level 3 02:02:54 I'm not sure when a player is likely to make it to FS2 with current ds, though 02:03:53 can ds get FS2 without rot immunity? 02:03:56 don't think they can 02:04:05 no, you get the muts in order 02:04:21 at least, from my recent understanding 02:04:24 <|amethyst> and it has 0 random weight 02:04:32 <|amethyst> so you only get it from the facet 02:04:42 ??demonspawn 02:04:42 demonspawn[1/4]: A race that is pretty average, but gets 5 semi-random good mutations. Has a 1/10 chance of being {monstrous}. Demonspawn mutations are irrevocable and unalterable, and drawn from a special list. 02:04:47 ??demonspawn[2 02:04:47 ds mutation rules[1/5]: Assuming you aren't monstrous, you get five facets, each consisting of three mutations (which usually just stack together). You will get one scales-type facet, one body-slot facet, two tier 2 facets, and one tier 3 facet. 02:04:51 anyway, I think a simple way to improve this mut would be to play around with the proc chance as |amethyst suggested 02:05:03 20/40 -> 40/80 02:05:21 it's not clear to me that the mutation needs improvement 02:05:27 -!- abixa has quit [Client Quit] 02:05:28 <|amethyst> What are we comparing it to? 02:05:31 in terms of buffing it 02:05:39 <|amethyst> icemail? 02:05:50 <|amethyst> spiny? 02:06:13 it's only a tier 2 facet 02:06:19 <|amethyst> I guess PbD is kind of buff for tier 2 02:06:19 I was thinking about the percentage of enemies fought that it affected 02:06:34 well that's a very large % 02:07:08 thorn hunter (16f) | Spd: 12 (swim: 120%) | HD: 15 | HP: 80-117 | AC/EV: 9/9 | Dam: 27, 23 | 03plant, amphibious, see invisible | Res: 13magic(immune), 03poison, 12drown, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 04fire | XP: 2120 | Sp: v.thorns (3d18) [11!AM, 06!sil], w.brambles [11!AM, 06!sil] | Sz: Large | Int: animal. 02:07:08 %??thorn hunter 02:07:21 right now, it takes 5.5 turns to slow the average enemy. the % affected depends on how many turns enemies are in melee range with you 02:07:33 huh 02:07:38 didn't know they swam quickly 02:07:41 -!- mumra has joined ##crawl-dev 02:07:49 -!- giann has quit [Quit: Bye!] 02:07:54 <|amethyst> Basil: that's slowly 02:08:06 hmmm 02:08:12 <|amethyst> Basil: or, rather, normal speed 02:08:56 you mostly care about affecting enemies that can last longer than 5.5 turns in melee 02:09:14 slowing spiny frogs in swamps isn't of much help 02:10:19 when it does affect monsters, it's like you're attacking them while hasted 02:10:33 and then don't they get poisoned as well 02:10:34 -!- agolden has joined ##crawl-dev 02:10:43 sickened, which disables regeneration 02:10:47 or is that just players 02:11:54 yeah it poisons them tas well 02:12:52 heh, it actually takes the trouble of rotting their max hp 02:13:05 but yeah miasma is a really strong effect 02:13:29 and I do remember it messing up monsters pretty badly when I won a ds with it 02:13:42 but I'm not sure when chars are getting it on average 02:13:54 hm, where's the poisoning? 02:14:01 !function miasma_monster 02:14:01 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/beam.cc#l2012 02:14:15 bool success = poison_monster(mons, who); 02:14:19 oh duh 02:14:59 maybe i'll go look at spiny and powered by death then 02:15:16 -!- mumra has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:15:22 fr: powered by spines 02:15:46 wow, powered by death specifically doesn't work with gozag 02:16:07 is...gozag...not the best god....?!?! 02:16:18 %git c8092070 02:16:18 07MarvinPA02 * 0.15-a0-988-gc809207: Don't trigger PbD on gold corpses 10(11 months ago, 1 file, 4+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/c80920707aad 02:16:34 guess gold doesn't buy regen 02:16:42 this just seems mean though. if you want to play a gozag Ds you might randomly get a useless mut after joining gozag 02:17:10 well you can't get regen from the gold piles, since they never decay, I guess 02:17:24 or something 02:17:33 <|amethyst> also, the gold piles aren't special anymore 02:17:58 pbd has the whole 'corpse los' thing though 02:18:18 perhaps it could become just an innate buff that doesn't depend on los, like what happened to gozag gold 02:18:19 <|amethyst> right, so PbD can't easily go the way of corpsegeld 02:18:32 <|amethyst> that loses the radius scaling 02:18:50 hrm, but it could store that info in a prop, no? 02:18:53 oh 02:19:03 I guess the problem is that if you move away 02:19:07 <|amethyst> yeah 02:19:08 and that's kind of the point 02:19:20 make a little special skull thingy 02:19:34 where the corpse *would* have been 02:19:39 radius scaling is nice 02:19:39 powered by graves 02:20:33 i think the unique part of PbD is that the bonus stacks 02:20:34 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:21:11 i don't think atm dcss has any equivalent stackable buff with each stack getting its own timeout, right? 02:21:58 <|amethyst> not that I can think of 02:22:26 in practice it mostly works like just a simple stack with an overall timeout though 02:22:33 the positioning part is pretty unique though 02:22:38 don't you immediately lose the regen if the corpse is gone 02:22:50 yes, butchering kills the bonus 02:23:04 yeah I'm just saying that monsters die close to the same time and corpses decay slowly 02:23:27 (the bonus is shorter than corpse decay) 02:23:29 but mayb pbd does it's duration differently? 02:23:36 <|amethyst> butchering doesn't lose the bonus AFAICT 02:23:36 it's like 40 turnsish 02:23:45 <|amethyst> you don't regen 02:23:48 <|amethyst> but the status stays on 02:23:57 <|amethyst> ah 02:24:05 <|amethyst> but the light's only on if there is a corpse 02:24:16 <|amethyst> the way it works is kind of weird 02:24:27 well 40 turns is a pretty large number 02:24:31 unless you mean 40 aut 02:24:41 <|amethyst> you get a duration, with ordinary timeout, when you kill a monster and it leaves a corpse 02:24:50 Stable (0.16) branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.16.1-17-g773cdaf 02:24:56 <|amethyst> while that duration's up, you heal from corpses in LOS 02:25:03 <|amethyst> (err, in radius) 02:25:12 <|amethyst> you get the light if the duration is up and there is a corpse 02:25:25 <|amethyst> so you could lose the light, wander into sight of another corpse, and get the light back 02:25:26 can you give specific muts in wizmode? 02:25:27 the radius part seems like it'd come into play more than the timeout, since you often need to reposition 02:25:28 <|amethyst> but not in general 02:25:30 <|amethyst> chequers: &] 02:25:41 *often want to 02:25:44 that gives a random mut, right? 02:25:54 <|amethyst> chequers: if you type "any" it does 02:25:56 oh, name 02:28:56 yeah, ok, it's weird 02:29:27 here's my proposal: just drop the corpse los thing, or change it to piles of gold for gozagites 02:29:49 piles of gold are slightly common, but you still need to kill an enemy to get the timer rolling 02:34:11 <|amethyst> that has the same autopickup problem that got Gozag changed 02:34:58 -!- Icadius has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:35:25 <|amethyst> worse because gold doesn't time out, so you keep it around so you get more regen next time you kill an enemy 02:35:35 ugh 02:36:39 <|amethyst> I'm not convinced it needs to be changed, but if so probably getting rid of the positioning and just making it regen after killing would be the most reasonable way 02:37:02 i don't really want to remove that cool mechanic just to deal with the gozag corner case though 02:38:03 how about these ideas: a) for gozag worshippers without this facet, don't give it to them (for existing ones, bad luck) b) remove the los thing just for gozagites and reduce the effectiveness some other way (probably small duration) 02:38:31 <|amethyst> facets are determined at birth 02:38:41 <|amethyst> also, TSO doesn't prevent you from turning into a green draconian 02:38:53 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.17-a0-746-g953d9fb (34) 02:38:58 -!- bitcoinbastard has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:40:12 <|amethyst> (but does disable your tail sting most of the time) 02:41:34 <|amethyst> (hm, actually, worse, you don't tail-attack at all once you get the stinger) 02:41:46 -!- Vizer_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:43:08 !lg * tso dr race=green_draconian recent s=ktyp 02:43:08 7 games for * (tso dr race=green_draconian recent): 3x mon, 3x beam, winning 02:43:18 it looks like most green draconians live with it 02:43:41 !lg * tso dr xl>7 race!=green_draconian recent s=ktyp 02:43:42 129 games for * (tso dr xl>7 race!=green_draconian recent): 87x mon, 23x beam, 6x winning, 4x pois, 2x burning, disintegration, cloud, something, water, acid, barbs, quitting 02:44:02 !lm * race=green_draconian god.worship=tso 02:44:02 No milestones for * (race=green_draconian god.worship=tso). 02:44:28 <|amethyst> !lm * race=green_draconian god.worship=the_shining_one 02:44:37 I suppose a Dr can wait until xl7 to see if they should worship tso though 02:44:42 46. [2015-03-24 21:34:21] ShopKeeper the Acrobat (L24 DrBe of The Shining One) became a worshipper of The Shining One on turn 57953. (Temple) 02:45:03 <|amethyst> and few people worship TSO that early 02:45:37 maybe gammafunk is right, you need a grave marker to fix this properly 02:46:21 actually, proccing off gold is problematic because corpseless monsters can goldify now too 02:46:48 man, the balance of PbD is all sorts of weird in Pan right now. every kill extends the duration but you need to fight within sight of a demonspawn 02:47:38 <|amethyst> no, you only get the duration on kills that leave corpses 02:47:55 oops, yeah right, i even read that code 15 mins ago 02:49:03 <|amethyst> one possibility would be to make PbD 3 not need corpses 02:49:11 <|amethyst> so gozagites are just delayed 02:49:30 <|amethyst> *if* PbD needs to be more useful in extended 02:49:50 not a bad idea. I'm not sure about extended balance for this mut though 02:49:58 <|amethyst> still not sure anything needs to change though, gods preventing or frowning upon species abilities isn't unheard of 02:50:39 <|amethyst> if we had a non-good god who cared about allies dying, they would disable demonic guardian like Oka used to 02:51:18 It just seems bad to completely disable a Ds mut based on rng 02:51:31 <|amethyst> it's not based on RNG 02:51:36 that's 20% of your mutations! 02:52:04 <|amethyst> it's based on a specific player decision 02:52:07 <|amethyst> that can be reversed 02:52:25 I think saying people can reverse worshipping a god is a bit glib 02:52:37 <|amethyst> was gozag wrath buffed that much? 02:52:41 <|amethyst> ??gozag wrath 02:52:42 gozag wrath[1/1]: All purchased shops close permanently. For your next 2 XLs (or equivalent), potions have a 1/3 chance to fail when quaffed (spending a turn but not the potion), and monsters have a chance (based on HD vs player XL) to be hasted, mighted or berserked when coming into view. 02:53:00 <|amethyst> I guess that last bit is significant, yeah :) 02:53:31 even if the wrath was bad, that would be a problem with wrath, rather than supporting the idea god worship can be "reversed" imo 02:53:47 especially since I thought people think gozag wrath should be quite bad due to 'gifts' 02:54:46 -!- Vizer_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:54:49 <|amethyst> could schedule PbD earlier 02:54:56 <|amethyst> like we did with demonic guardian 02:56:00 you can make certain muts appear at low xl? 02:56:02 <|amethyst> so you're guaranteed to get it in the first third of your mutations, so ~L9 02:56:08 oh 02:56:17 !lm * current god.worship x=avg(xl) 02:56:49 i guess you could change the scheduling to be even more precise 02:57:11 44010 milestones for * (current god.worship): avg(xl)=6.48 02:57:35 <|amethyst> you get demonic guardian around XL 4-5ish on average 02:57:55 <|amethyst> hm 02:58:21 wish you could see distribution there 02:58:36 !lm * current god.worship xl<9 s=xl 02:58:37 <|amethyst> I guess I shouldn't say that, since the presence of other things to schedule means the distribution probably isn't flat from L1 to L9 02:58:43 -!- gorice has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:58:45 36588 milestones for * (current god.worship xl<9): 7045x 8, 6620x 7, 5818x 6, 5232x 4, 4954x 3, 4786x 5, 1691x 2, 442x 1 02:59:22 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 02:59:40 maybe certain mutations could be marked as 'get first' rather than merely 'get early' 03:01:24 it seems bad to mess with a cool and flavorful ability to make gozag better 03:01:25 -!- nikheizen has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 03:01:34 or for the sake of gozag 03:01:37 or players that would pick gozag 03:01:59 like the mechanics of pbd are pretty good 03:04:29 a) you hate gozag, your opinions dont count b) i agree 03:08:41 -!- Basil has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:09:25 ok, here are two easier-to-code ideas from that discussion https://github.com/alexjurkiewicz/crawl-ref/commits/gozag_pbd 03:09:57 I like the idea of using gold stacks more after coding it, since I realised gold stacks combine, which weakens PbD 03:10:03 wait.... do they combine?? 03:14:59 -!- siepu has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 03:16:28 -!- Kintak has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 03:17:28 -!- agolden has quit [Quit: agolden] 03:18:24 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 03:20:19 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 03:21:44 lets see what the forum thinks. inb4 "lol gozag" 03:25:51 -!- agolden has joined ##crawl-dev 03:28:32 -!- agolden has quit [Client Quit] 03:33:25 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 03:34:01 -!- CacoS has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 03:37:53 -!- Wolfechu has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 03:44:02 -!- CacoS01 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:45:29 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 03:49:22 -!- Z_LAMP has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:49:47 -!- qoala has quit [Quit: Abscond!] 03:49:58 -!- mumra has joined ##crawl-dev 03:50:06 -!- Patashu has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:50:23 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 03:57:16 -!- mumra has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:58:56 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:04:08 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 04:05:24 -!- halberd has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 04:10:18 -!- dpeg has joined ##crawl-dev 04:15:40 -!- schistosoma has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:16:25 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:18:27 Using Blade Claws on a petrified Hydra causes head regrowth. 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9665 by Cheetah 04:24:28 -!- shnurlf has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:24:31 -!- yucateco has quit [Quit: Page closed] 04:25:18 -!- SpongeJr has quit [Quit: *squish*] 04:28:10 -!- CcS has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:29:48 -!- __miek has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 04:33:25 -!- CacoS has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 04:36:51 -!- edlothiol has joined ##crawl-dev 04:38:15 -!- mumra has joined ##crawl-dev 04:42:00 -!- Svalin has quit [Quit: Page closed] 04:42:04 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 04:43:34 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 04:46:49 -!- Icadius_I is now known as Icadius 04:48:58 -!- Xelif has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:51:08 -!- paroneay` has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:54:08 -!- Siveran has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 04:55:24 ??gozag 04:55:25 dpeg: You have 2 messages. Use !messages to read them. 04:55:25 gozag[1/3]: The greedy god of gold. Turns corpses into gold, which gives a distraction status that may cause enemies to lose turns. Lets you use {potion petition}, lets you {call merchant}s, and lets you {bribe branch}es. Does not have a normal piety system. 04:55:34 ??gozag[2 04:55:34 gozag[2/3]: Joining Gozag costs some gold, based on the amount of gold generated in the game so far. On conversion all abilities are available, as long as you have enough gold. Wearing an amulet of faith will give you a discount on purchasing invocations. Removing "faith will increase future prices. Monks get the fee-on-join waived if Gozag is their first god. 04:55:44 ??gozag[3 04:55:44 gozag[3/3]: https://crawl.develz.org/wiki/doku.php?id=dcss:brainstorm:god:propose:gold 04:55:50 !messages 04:55:50 (1/2) gammafunk said (1d 18h 40m 54s ago): that approach randomly chooses from unseen uniques with different weights for choices 04:55:54 !messages 04:55:54 (1/1) chequers said (11h 2m 1s ago): There's a demonspawn mutation that doesn't work with gozag. "You can steal the life force of nearby defeated enemies." It's a bit annoying to get this mut after you start worshipping gozag -- reckon it's worth making the two compatible? 04:58:19 chequers: replied in the forum thread. Many thanks! 05:01:05 still cannot run ./crawl :( 05:03:58 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:07:07 ta 05:07:46 the timer for pbd is fine, it still works (albeit uselessly) for gozagites. The problem is that pbd works on the number of corpses in los. gozagites can't detect that 05:18:32 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 05:19:35 -!- siepu has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 05:23:48 -!- Pacra has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 05:35:35 -!- Bcadren has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 05:41:25 -!- eglwkne has quit [Quit: Page closed] 05:42:19 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 05:45:09 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 05:52:55 -!- driftwood has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 06:14:40 -!- Nightbeer has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:23:11 -!- KamiKatze_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 06:29:32 -!- gressup has quit [Quit: Leaving] 06:34:57 -!- excalibur03 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 06:40:19 -!- excalibur03 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 06:44:24 -!- Pacra has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 06:44:49 -!- aarujn has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 06:45:14 -!- rophy has quit [Quit: Miranda NG! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-ng.org/] 06:46:53 i don't really like the idea of making pbd work in a completely different way depending on your god, i think either "do nothing" or "make pbd appear slightly earlier" seem like the best options for gozag/pbd stuff 06:53:22 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 06:53:24 yeah i like the latter 06:53:36 but it's a bit of a user-visible implementation detail 06:53:48 certain mutations will appear in the first few levels fi they're going to occur at all 06:53:55 -!- filthy has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 06:54:09 it's a bit exploitable? but ds is gamed already 06:54:11 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:56:06 demonic guardian already shows up earlier than other t2 muts yeah 06:57:27 yeah, but not early enough, so doing it in the first few levels requires more code changes 06:57:43 amethyst said guardian is pre-xl9, I want pre xl-5 probably 06:57:52 more like xl2/3 06:57:52 oh i'd just use the same system as demonic guardian does, i don't think there should be some new way to guarantee it even earlier 06:58:28 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 06:59:41 thats not early enough though 07:00:17 well i don't have a problem with "do nothing" as a solution here, so i think it's fine if it usually shows up earlier but sometimes you still get unlucky 07:05:50 okay 07:10:01 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 07:14:59 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 07:16:59 -!- debo has quit [Quit: orb spiders :(] 07:18:53 -!- Pacra_ has joined ##crawl-dev 07:19:10 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:19:25 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 07:19:33 .moon -tv:>$:channel=moon 07:19:33 -!- Insomniak` has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 07:19:33 13. namelastname112, XL17 DrWr, T:46134 (milestone) requested for moon: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 07:19:37 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:38:41 -!- Pacra_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:39:55 !tell |amethyst we might move CLAN this weekend (or later) to a new machine. Thought I'd mention this. 07:39:56 TZer0: OK, I'll let |amethyst know. 07:40:22 !tell |amethyst it should still have the exact same URL etc. 07:40:22 TZer0: OK, I'll let |amethyst know. 07:43:13 -!- heteroy has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 07:46:13 -!- vale_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:49:49 -!- wHATEver is now known as Guest1036 07:50:23 -!- myp has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 07:52:32 -!- ololoev has quit [Quit: Page closed] 08:11:52 To be fair, getting PBD and then abandoning Gozag doesn't hurt that much. 08:12:39 TZer0: More powah? :) 08:18:13 -!- Crehl has quit [Quit: Killed by a kitten] 08:19:24 -!- doubtofbuddha has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 08:22:09 -!- ly^ has quit [Quit: Bye] 08:24:27 -!- Brannock_ has joined ##crawl-dev 08:27:43 -!- Nobuharu has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:28:34 -!- ololoev has quit [Client Quit] 08:29:35 -!- Foamed has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:30:43 -!- ly^ has quit [Quit: Bye] 08:34:42 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 08:35:30 -!- ololoev has quit [Client Quit] 08:44:06 -!- filthy has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 08:45:34 -!- ololoev has quit [Quit: Page closed] 08:46:55 Medar: Yes. 08:51:43 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 08:57:28 -!- Sczcya has joined ##crawl-dev 08:58:10 -!- Icadius has quit [Quit: Look what I got, Bart, a Tickle-Me Krusty doll!] 09:06:26 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 09:06:28 -!- Sczcya has left ##crawl-dev 09:10:39 -!- SomeStupidGuy has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 09:11:13 -!- MIC132 has joined ##crawl-dev 09:13:09 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 09:18:24 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 09:20:13 -!- mumbologist has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 09:22:13 -!- heteroy has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 09:24:05 Lasty_: i think that's more an indictment of gozag wrath than support of the status quo 09:24:24 -!- nixor has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 09:25:24 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 09:26:19 ??heavy armour 09:26:19 heavy armour[1/1]: Refers to body armours with an encumbrance rating of 5 or more, which are incompatible with {Ozocubu's Armour}. 09:26:25 no it doesn't 09:26:30 ?/ashenzari 09:26:30 Matching terms (5): ashenzari, ashenzari_reasons, ashenzari_skill_boost, ashenzari_unreasons, ashenzari_wrath; entries (29): ash[1] | ash_reasons[1] | ash_skill_boost[1] | ash_wrath[1] | ashenzari_reasons[2] | blown_up_by[4] | cheibriados_wrath[3] | dieselbonusideas[4] | dieselbonusideas[7] | divinations[1] | enchant_weapon[1] | famous_last_words[15] | fuk_da_sac[2] | gods[2] | hyperbolic[3] | inv... 09:26:48 dpeg: i assume you meant to say "past" in your commit mail? 09:26:48 wheals: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 09:26:51 !messages 09:26:52 (1/1) |amethyst said (9h 11m 41s ago): is it intentional that everything parrowable is also stingable? 09:28:05 |amethyst: yeah... i mentioned parrow specifically in the commit message since it already guaranteed a poisoning for many rPois monsters, so I wanted to mention that guarantee now extended to all of them 09:28:26 note that parrow has a 100% chance of poisoning, not 33% 09:29:35 chequers: yeah, probably so 09:30:05 -!- siepu has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:30:18 dpeg: 09:30:19 %git e36f2c8cdfe62621f6490e 09:30:20 07greensnark02 * e36f2c8cdfe6: r33@calamity: dshaligram | 2006-08-16 03:34:30 +051800 * Remove monsters from LOS when a new game starts. * Allow related monsters to swap positions * Cleaned up some other stuff, removed most viewport magic numbers from direct.cc. 10(9 years ago, 14 files, 710+ 382-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/e36f2c8cdfe6 09:31:53 unless there was a commit i missed (note that's the 4th commit or so in stone_soup), swapping has always been with related monsters 09:32:24 i did want to avoid too much swapping, since recent ADOM versions have had that problem (especially bad since there's a message whenever it happens) 09:32:37 so i just meleed a big kobold with a wand of cold to death 09:32:47 another kobold picks up the wand and continues to zap me with it 09:33:13 is there a fundamental difference between seeing a wand of cold in a monster's hand and seeing a wand of cold on the floor 09:33:23 A child picking up its parent's legacy. Beautiful in its way. 09:33:44 kvaak: code-wise, yes 09:33:58 My understanding is that monsters can still pick up stuff you haven't personally seen on the floor, so if an item gets buried in a pile, monsters can still pick it up until you step on that pile 09:34:08 yes 09:34:14 that is correct and i am aware of that 09:34:18 there's an exception for their weapons and armour, though, since you can see them 09:34:29 i guess we forgot to fix it for wands too 09:34:40 not wands though 09:34:42 are wands listed in xv? 09:34:51 Lasty_: if you have seen them used 09:34:55 the pesky bastards always zap them just as you look the other way 09:34:58 elliptic: ah, thanks 09:35:02 or if you worship ash 09:35:16 both apply in this case 09:39:40 shift+tab doesn't warn you if there's a friendly (skeleton?) behind your target, is that supposed to happen 09:40:37 you mean that it fires at the target nonetheless? reported in 09:40:40 !bug 9634 09:40:40 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9634 09:41:43 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 09:41:50 %git rb3af42db767b 09:41:50 Could not find commit rb3af42db767b (git returned 128) 09:41:57 hm 09:42:27 %git b3af42db767beea784f9d4c0d5a8c913eb2e718b 09:42:30 07elliptic02 * 0.10-a0-2303-gb3af42d: Kill petrified 0-headed hydras. 10(3 years, 5 months ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/b3af42db767b 09:42:41 heh 09:43:25 -!- radinms has quit [] 09:47:26 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 09:49:49 -!- Kolbur1 has joined ##crawl-dev 09:50:26 -!- rossi has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.1.1] 09:50:42 -!- MIC132 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:53:24 -!- paroneay` is now known as paroneayea 09:57:54 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:07:43 -!- MIC132 has joined ##crawl-dev 10:08:36 -!- nixor has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:10:17 -!- MIC132 has quit [Client Quit] 10:10:32 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 10:11:39 huh, apparently steam clouds have a damage mechanism that's completely different from all other clouds. 10:11:41 neat. 10:14:52 -!- CacoS has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:16:59 @??hydra 10:16:59 hydra (09D) | Spd: 10 (swim: 60%) | HD: 13 | HP: 56-87 | AC/EV: 0/5 | Dam: 18 per head | amphibious, cold-blooded, regen | Res: 06magic(60), 03poison, 12drown | Chunks: 09poison | XP: 974 | Sz: Big | Int: reptile. 10:18:38 -!- MIC132 has joined ##crawl-dev 10:19:24 -!- Kolbur1 is now known as Kolbur 10:22:41 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 10:28:00 -!- pintc has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 10:29:37 -!- koolguydude has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:30:13 -!- shnurlf has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:30:20 wheals: just back, which commit do you mean? 10:30:32 ah, I see 10:31:25 wheals: I am very sure that there was a period when swapping was free: everyone could swap with everone... this might easily have been in the dark svn times. 10:35:13 dpeg: You mean the 1970s? 10:35:39 !source FL_WINGED 10:35:39 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/enum.h#l2314 10:36:05 is there any difference between that and FL_LEVITATE now 10:36:12 it is a mystery. 10:36:48 dang, spooky 10:36:54 the comment is certainly wrong, though 10:37:41 -!- stubblyhead_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:38:46 it was the time when Derek Ray (of Sporkhack) played Crawl for a bit. He won unspoiled (declared intent, and executed quickly and masterly), and he suggested to us that monsters might give way to encircle the player better. 10:39:02 Hm, I now realise that I might be talking about a different piece of monster AI than everybody else. :O 10:39:15 starting to sound like that, yes 10:39:40 so, monsters moving out of the way of others to avoid jams at corridor entrances and the like? 10:39:50 mm, jam 10:41:06 it looks like there's code to treat paralysed FL_WINGED monsters as not flying but i'm not sure if that actually does anything? 10:41:27 see also 10:41:31 !bug 3359 10:41:31 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=3359 10:41:56 is ash boost not supposed to really stack with fencer's gloves 10:41:56 -!- CcS has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:42:07 no 10:42:54 actually i don't think they stack at all 10:43:06 18,1 with the gloves, 18,1 without them 10:43:26 wheals: I really enjoy gomer's comment 10:43:30 exactly 10:43:39 meh 10:43:46 had i known this i would've never bothered 10:43:49 -!- panicbit has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 10:44:01 i just said that it's supposed to 10:44:05 you could report it on mantis 10:44:29 how do i reading comprehension 10:44:48 not your fault, "no" was pretty ambiguous there :P 10:46:13 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:47:05 wheals: yes, that's what I was referring to 10:47:58 wheals: btw, how do you make sure that the biggest threat goes towards the player? 10:48:42 well, the less big threats can't push it 10:48:51 but it can push past bigger ones 10:48:57 it's basically bubblesort :P 10:48:57 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 10:49:23 dpeg: only higher hd monsters can swap with lower ones, iirc? 10:49:33 %git :/swap 10:49:33 07wheals02 * 0.17-a0-740-gf4f35bf: Disallow swapping with stoned/asleep allies (#5733, #9551). 10(18 hours ago, 2 files, 16+ 9-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f4f35bf3921c 10:49:36 er 10:49:45 about the fencer's gloves: might be worth to look into how the add up with cross training skill bonus as well 10:49:52 !gitgrep 2 swap 10:49:52 %git HEAD^{/swap}^^{/swap} 10:49:53 07wheals02 * 0.17-a0-738-g560a70f: Allow non-related monsters to swap places. 10(19 hours ago, 1 file, 13+ 12-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/560a70f26162 10:50:01 !source player::skill 10:50:01 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/player.cc#l5832 10:50:09 Ashenzari's skill boost does not stack with Fencer's gloves. 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9666 by Kvaak 10:50:39 guess i'll just put that mummy on hold until this is fixed 10:50:43 gotta get my mindelay triple sword at 16 skill 10:50:48 fwiw, I did like blocking monsters with other-genus monsters :) 10:50:52 that's player talk, maybe 10:51:02 !send PleasingFungus the fabled rat-dragon 10:51:02 Sending the fabled rat-dragon to PleasingFungus. 10:51:06 ! 10:51:13 -!- shnurlf has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:51:27 ants as big as dragons as big as mites 10:52:02 clearly the dragon should just squish the rat instead of stepping around it carefully 10:52:06 yeah, probably everyone who's played more than a couple of games of crawl has used rat shields 10:52:07 MONEAT_OTHER_MONSTERS 10:52:09 intentionally or otherwise 10:52:40 mhm no doubt it's a nerf 10:53:08 just something that bothers me, and we can see how it goes 10:55:21 wheals: so n monsters in a corridor will need n log(n) moves to achieve the Most Deadly Configuration? :) 10:55:49 n^2! 10:55:58 ideally the player will be dead by then :P 10:56:01 oh wow it's even worse than i expected 10:56:06 ash boost overrides the gloves 10:56:22 if the boost is smaller than +4... well, you get the idea 10:56:26 wheals: quicksort is n log(n) ? 10:56:42 kvaak: that's not so unreasonable 10:56:47 yes, that's also the fastest possible one (that relies on comparisons) 10:57:36 kvaak: dpeg: it's just a quirk of the way the code is structured, it's probably fine for everything to stack together 10:57:56 it looks like ash boost also never applies if you have drain? or am i reading this wrong 10:58:11 yellow drain doesn't completely disable ash boost 10:58:14 if that's what you're asking 10:58:14 oh i see it's recursive 10:58:29 yeah i see why it works right now 10:59:38 heroism and ash also don't stack but that's not too big a deal :) 11:04:48 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 11:09:46 -!- shnurlf has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:10:58 -!- Mekanik has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. 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Use !messages to read them. 11:44:54 |amethyst: OK, I'll let wheals know. 11:46:45 hero doesn't wear off when you leave oka but i don't think it's possible to hit 3* with ash before it expires :( 11:47:40 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 11:48:53 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 11:55:36 -!- GoblinBomb has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:56:38 -!- SomeStupidGuy has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:58:05 -!- stubblyhead_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:58:15 -!- Sprort has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:59:39 -!- MIC132 has joined ##crawl-dev 12:01:29 Stabbed monsters killed but resurrected by Lost Soul remain asleep 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9667 by golthoon 12:01:29 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:03:13 Stable (0.16) branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.16.1-17-g773cdaf 12:03:25 -!- SomeStupidGirl has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 12:05:22 -!- Bcadren has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:10:18 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 12:11:01 -!- Athaboros has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:15:44 -!- Fusha has joined ##crawl-dev 12:16:17 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 12:16:37 -!- zero_one has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:18:00 -!- copt has quit [] 12:19:15 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 12:20:13 -!- quik has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:21:34 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 12:22:20 -!- Elynae has quit [Client Quit] 12:25:59 -!- doubtofbuddha has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:26:56 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 12:28:11 -!- MIC132 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:28:21 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.17-a0-746-g953d9fb (34) 12:29:57 -!- quik has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 12:31:23 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 12:36:44 -!- mumra_ has joined ##crawl-dev 12:37:10 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 12:40:23 -!- mumra has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:40:49 -!- mumra has joined ##crawl-dev 12:41:13 -!- mumra_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:43:59 -!- filthy has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:45:19 -!- cojito has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:45:23 -!- mumra has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:50:33 -!- coyo7e has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:52:22 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 12:58:08 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 13:06:54 -!- simmarine has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:07:18 -!- SomeStupidGuy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:07:53 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:08:44 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 13:09:45 -!- mumra has joined ##crawl-dev 13:15:10 -!- SomeStupidGuy has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 13:15:18 -!- Basil has joined ##crawl-dev 13:15:38 -!- mosca38 has quit [Client Quit] 13:16:06 -!- Pluie has joined ##crawl-dev 13:17:12 -!- NotKintak has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:18:52 %git 552e03a 13:18:57 07wheals02 * 0.17-a0-743-g552e03a: Take speed brand into account in weapon_min_delay (#9663). 10(20 hours ago, 1 file, 4+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/552e03a34338 13:19:18 %git 560a70f26162ee228cdfd84e4a4fb43d07eca82 13:19:20 07wheals02 * 0.17-a0-738-g560a70f: Allow non-related monsters to swap places. 10(21 hours ago, 1 file, 13+ 12-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/560a70f26162 13:21:12 hrm, not sure a strict cutoff of 5 like that is good 13:21:30 well 6, I guess 13:22:09 I suppose it's no more a problem than it is for players having to track genus 13:27:35 -!- qwokyboo has quit [Client Quit] 13:27:53 -!- SomeStupidGirl has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:28:21 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 13:29:31 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 13:35:28 -!- blabber has joined ##crawl-dev 13:37:58 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 13:38:09 -!- MIC132 has joined ##crawl-dev 13:43:25 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 13:45:44 -!- stubblyhead_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:57:27 -!- elliptic has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:57:36 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 13:58:31 gammafunk: i was thinking of pushing my stat loss stuff up on a branch so people can marvel at my ugly code and totally arbitrary numbers for it 13:58:46 -!- st_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 13:58:56 cool. sure, I can take a look aswell 13:58:56 -!- shnurlf has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:59:23 any thoughts on other implementation details like !restab, mummy/elyvilon self-restoration etc? 13:59:38 i was thinking of removing the potion, no clue on the restoration abilities 14:00:10 all that can wait, either way, just realised i hadn't actually thought about it up until now :P 14:00:37 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 14:00:40 likewise stat recovery being disabled with slow heal 3/bloodless vampire, currently i haven't put that back in 14:01:54 there are two special cases to disable stat recovery? 14:02:14 yes, since vampires don't have the actual slow heal mutation 14:02:21 -!- ldf has joined ##crawl-dev 14:02:53 (they also get slowed recovery at thirsty, which should be removed in the current system too probably :P) 14:03:06 mummy restoration seems that it doesn't need to exist 14:03:08 MarvinPA: what about DD? 14:03:19 dd have slow heal 3 14:03:27 man i had no idea they don't recover stats 14:03:50 and i won a DD. where is this nonsense communicated to the player? i am in favor of whatever changes MarvinPA is up to 14:04:01 I suppose we could simply require more xp to restore based on the level of the mutation? 14:04:12 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 14:04:18 i would tend towards letting everyone recover stats the same and not basing it on slow heal mut, i guess 14:04:23 sure 14:04:50 i guess re: mummies it means they can't cure rot until they get /hw! but yes possibly that's not a problem 14:05:02 oh 14:05:42 I'm wondering how onerous it'd be in practice to require xp gain at 0-stat levels, I guess I need to be familiar with what exactly happens now 14:06:12 if nothing at all aside from maybe a god ability can restore stats 14:07:20 but I guess that's fun for our trunk users to have! 14:07:23 there's chrisoelmueller's proposal to make might/agility/brilliance also restore their respective stat 14:07:34 -!- syraine has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:07:56 which could be okay, but might not be necessary 14:08:05 yeah, and idea to keep in mind 14:09:53 -!- MIC132 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:11:34 MarvinPA: is the degeneration mutation a problem? I imagine the level 1 mutation would basically be a no-op 14:11:37 under this system 14:11:48 oh mmm 14:11:50 no idea, yeah 14:11:57 but I guess that's dependent on how aggressive we are in the xp requirements 14:12:23 it could drain more stat at level 14:12:31 if it gets cured quickly 14:12:35 *at level 1 14:12:45 but yeah maybe that can be tweaked as we go 14:13:14 -!- FiftyNine has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 14:14:37 make the xp requirement to restore stat inversely proportional to the base value? 14:14:50 high strength is easier to restore than low strength, etc. 14:14:55 -!- cojito has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:16:51 -!- Siegurt has joined ##crawl-dev 14:17:41 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 14:18:37 CanOfWorms: why? 14:24:13 the impact of stat loss depends on how much you have in it 14:24:50 if you have a single digit stat your build is probably not going to lean on the benefits it gives 14:25:29 you don't care about stat loss except if it puts you at 0 14:25:45 -!- MIC132 has joined ##crawl-dev 14:25:46 Let's say sure. So? 14:26:00 15-20ish is where losing some points can change things 14:26:17 after that you get diminishing returns 14:27:03 So? 14:27:55 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 14:28:43 PleasingFungus: Me! Axe Big! Heavy Axe! No strength! Can Axe?! No Axe?! Need Strong! TROGGGGGG! 14:28:54 That sounds like an argument for making stat drain proportionate to base stats, maybe. given that's not the case, I don't see why we'd make xp 'costs' proportionate. 14:28:59 gammafunk: hi 14:29:35 sorry 14:29:41 got a bit int-drained there 14:30:29 roleplaying?? 14:30:30 an orc comes out of nowhere! i hate them because they burned my village down once i yell the name of trog and go into a berserk rage at the sight of the orc RARRGRAHA 14:30:34 -!- blabber has quit [Quit: leaving] 14:30:50 thrilling lore 14:31:09 agreed 14:34:07 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:35:07 -!- MIC132 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:35:48 hmm is gitorious dying again 14:36:11 it looks like i successfully pushed??? 14:36:52 gitorment 14:42:43 -!- MIC132 has joined ##crawl-dev 14:46:00 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:46:21 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 14:46:56 hrm 14:46:58 ??githubpoke 14:46:59 githubpoke[1/1]: http://tozt.net:9876/crawl 14:47:38 New 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wanna say since you enabled pul requests you've gotten more patches than ever 18:46:19 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 18:49:40 -!- Sharkman1231 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:49:54 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 18:51:34 %git stat_drain 18:51:34 07MarvinPA02 * 0.17-a0-747-g6f9c090: Make stat drain recover with XP gain instead of over time 10(8 weeks ago, 5 files, 71+ 44-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/6f9c0902ddd3 18:51:36 -!- ZChris13 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:52:55 oh 18:53:05 for (int i = 0; i < NUM_STATS; ++i) 18:53:05 + { 18:53:05 + if (recovered_stats[i] > 0); 18:53:06 + restore_stat((stat_type) i, recovered_stats[i], false, true); 18:53:19 would it be correct to not have braces there 18:55:17 !function calc_skill_cost 18:55:17 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/skills.cc#l151 18:55:26 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:55:29 what is that semicolon after the if 18:55:38 oh,heh 18:55:41 generally you can drop braces only if you have one following statement 18:55:44 and ; is a statement 18:55:51 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 18:56:25 I think that semicolon was a typo 18:56:40 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 18:56:41 so yeah it seems we could drop the braces 18:57:00 I'm not sure if MPA can run unbrace or not anyhow 18:57:03 it's been a while since I Ctyped but i'm guessing that restore_stat call would happen regardless of the conditional in that if, because of the trailing semi 18:57:04 just something I noticed 18:57:08 iirc the style guide says for (...) if (...) foo; is fine, but it frowns on if (...) for (...) foo; without braces 18:57:50 well I think we actually specify that the former should not have braces 18:57:54 as in unbrace will correct it 18:57:56 -!- Pacra has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:58:19 yeah that is what it says 18:58:33 but or it would if there were no semicolon, I guess 18:58:42 let me try removing that, since unbrace isn't complaining currently 18:59:34 debo: good catch on the semicolon, I totally missed that for some reason 19:00:05 :) 19:00:35 hrm, well unbrace doesn't complain either way! 19:01:35 -!- onrul has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:01:37 -!- DrKe has joined ##crawl-dev 19:02:13 -!- Ragdoll has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:02:56 03gammafunk02 07[stat_drain] * 0.17-a0-748-gdcd3f0e: Remove an errant semicolon and reformat (debo) 10(77 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/dcd3f0e89801 19:03:26 DrKe: I found that approaching Antaeus on the mu end (with the sometimes secret passages and the ice statue before Antaeus + fiends on an island) was a terrible waste of time/resources 19:03:38 Do you just complete random teleport and hope to land nearby? 19:03:52 I guess with TSO it's a bit better since you always have angels 19:03:56 yeah that seems better 19:04:14 I took a shaft and landed pretty close so I felt like going the normal approach would be fast 19:04:20 coc is pretty obnoxious 19:04:36 then SoH, reset, kill that, then kill the fiends but the two wellsprings became a massive pain 19:04:41 and I'm out of resources so I quit 19:04:52 yeah next time I'll just go random teleport 19:06:23 I'd consider TSO as well but this has to be mak for the full greaterplayer/polytheist roleplaying experience 19:07:28 i lost a HEBe in coc_mu 19:07:40 he was doing good on turns for the HE high score but he had like frail 2 and teleportitis 19:07:55 so he died to like some zombies and tormentors after being slowed 19:08:08 so i am done attempting that combo 19:08:25 being TSO would have saved me probably 19:10:09 oh neat 19:10:13 how fast would it have been? 19:10:45 it was 13 runes at 31k turns 19:11:03 well actually looks like it was only 11 19:11:11 so it would have been kind of close 19:11:53 doing hell first would have been a better way to go probably since the mutations i picked up in pan killed me in hell 19:12:05 but also getting nothing helpful from zig was problematic 19:15:33 -!- johnf has quit [] 19:17:15 -!- nicolae- has joined ##crawl-dev 19:18:20 -!- Icadius has quit [Quit: Look what I got, Bart, a Tickle-Me Krusty doll!] 19:22:07 -!- mumra_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 19:22:55 -!- Kramell has quit [Excess Flood] 19:25:18 -!- ldf has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 19:27:09 -!- paroneay` is now known as paroneayea 19:31:37 -!- DrStalker has quit [] 19:36:55 @??orb_guardian 19:36:56 Orb Guardian (06X) | Spd: 14 | HD: 15 | HP: 67-99 | AC/EV: 13/13 | Dam: 45 | 10doors, fighter, see invisible | Res: 06magic(120), 12drown | XP: 2763 | Sz: Giant | Int: normal. 19:37:25 -!- Siegurt has joined ##crawl-dev 19:37:39 -!- pintc has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 19:38:07 @??ice_fiend 19:38:07 Ice Fiend (161) | Spd: 10 | HD: 18 | HP: 83-117 | AC/EV: 15/6 | Dam: 2509(claw)12(cold:18-53), 2509(claw)12(cold:18-53) | 05demonic, 10doors, evil, see invisible, fly | Res: 13magic(immune), 12cold+++, 03poison, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 04fire, 08holy++ | XP: 2891 | Sp: b.cold (3d27) [06!sil], s.torment [06!sil] | Sz: Large | Int: high. 19:39:37 -!- Pluie has quit [Quit: swish] 19:41:59 @??stone_giant 19:41:59 stone giant (15C) | Spd: 10 | HD: 16 | HP: 72-105 | AC/EV: 12/2 | Dam: 45 | 10items, 10doors | Res: 06magic(80), 12drown | XP: 1423 | Sz: Giant | Int: normal. 19:43:40 -!- WalkerBoh has joined ##crawl-dev 19:44:14 -!- Siegurt has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 19:54:54 -!- doubtofbuddha has joined ##crawl-dev 19:55:03 anyone aronund? 19:55:07 around too 19:55:11 no 19:55:19 k 19:55:21 doubtofbuddha: which server? 19:55:59 Anyway, I've had two games in a row on CAO where my assassin has started with 10 poison needles instead of curerare 19:56:04 or however it is spelled 19:56:26 doubtofbuddha: happens to me when i build latest trunk too actually 19:56:34 yeah 19:56:37 is this WAI 19:56:38 ? 19:57:12 no 19:57:13 %git curare 19:57:13 Could not find commit curare (git returned 128) 19:57:13 -!- Zooty has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:57:19 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 19:57:45 k 19:57:52 %git :/curare 19:57:52 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.17-a0-589-gf3c920e: Merge res_asphyx() into is_unbreathing() 10(7 days ago, 10 files, 26+ 37-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f3c920e20ba7 19:57:58 i don't see any commits that intend to remove it, and also ng_setup still tries to give you curare 19:58:13 !function _give_items_skills 19:58:13 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/ng-setup.cc#l279 19:58:27 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/ng-setup.cc#L559 19:59:23 possibly related to pf's work to remove res_asphyx, which was recentish 20:01:25 -!- rchandra has joined ##crawl-dev 20:08:25 -!- Sharkman1231 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:09:10 -!- ahahaha has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:09:39 chequers: how do i enable dprf printing? just `make debug` and run as normal? 20:09:46 dunno sorry 20:09:49 probably? 20:09:56 -!- 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thing that you add 1 to the number of cpus to compensate for i/o wait etc. 20:14:10 oh it's supposed to be N cores + 1 20:14:42 yeah like geekosaur said; I use it to get maximum usage of my cpus 20:15:36 looks like debug-lite adds -ggdb, which is basically -g + gdb-specific stuff 20:16:19 oh, so i need to make debuglite to get my crash logs showing more info? 20:16:46 chequers: yeah I guess, you might ask |amethyst for sure 20:16:53 he knows compilers stuff much better than I 20:17:24 bug debug-lite is whatever -DDEBUG gets you & -ggdb 20:17:53 and full oh 20:18:03 ifneq (,$(filter debug-lite,$(MAKECMDGOALS))) DEBUG=YesPlease NO_OPTIMIZE=YesPlease 20:18:10 so yeah you don't want to use debug-lite 20:18:14 since it turns off optimization 20:18:39 |amethyst: all my crash logs don't show gdb data right now -- what do I need to do to enable it? 20:18:41 ppfffft. who needs debug builds. 20:18:51 .phyte 20:19:00 3. casual the Peltast (L19 NaIE of Cheibriados), demolished by a shambling mangrove on Swamp:4 (nicolae_swamp_phyte_club) on 2015-04-15 07:04:22, with 236224 points after 43558 turns and 2:38:53. 20:19:15 :( 20:19:15 your quota was 5 by the end of the week 20:19:20 i was not given a quota 20:19:21 we may have to dock your pay 20:19:24 no! 20:19:41 .phyte -2 20:19:48 don't take away another -$10... 20:19:50 2/3. miek the Unseen (L15 VpEn of Kikubaaqudgha), mangled by a shambling mangrove on Swamp:4 (nicolae_swamp_phyte_club) on 2015-04-10 10:38:12, with 96390 points after 33390 turns and 1:53:54. 20:20:04 .phyte -3 20:20:05 this would never have happened if you hadn't told me to take out some of the thorn hunters 20:20:21 i'll NEVER forgive you. 20:20:31 1/3. WereVolvo the Bewitcher (L16 SpEn of Ashenzari), hit from afar by a thorn hunter (volley of thorns) on Swamp:2 (nicolae_swamp_phyte_club) on 2015-04-03 09:29:49, with 117275 points after 43445 turns and 2:17:53. 20:20:31 !lg * week swamp:4 / kmap=nicolae_swamp_phyte_club 20:20:32 1/14 games for * (week swamp:4): N=1/14 (7.14%) 20:20:48 !lg * month swamp:4 / kmap=nicolae_swamp_phyte_club 20:20:48 2/61 games for * (month swamp:4): N=2/61 (3.28%) 20:21:50 .gmap 20:21:50 139. Xenophon the Unseen (L12 KoAs of Makhleb), slain by a catoblepas on Lair:3 (gammafunk_lair_enchanted_lake) on 2015-04-20 20:43:28, with 11517 points after 18761 turns and 1:05:21. 20:21:59 .gfkills 20:22:29 930 games for * (kmap~~gammafunk|wizlab_lehudib kmap!~overflow || ikiller=asterion || ikiller=octopode_crusher): cdist(game_key)=930 20:22:31 wow that takes a long time 20:22:41 !cmd .gfkills 20:22:41 Command: .gfkills => !lg * (( kmap~~gammafunk|wizlab_lehudib kmap!~overflow || ikiller=asterion || ikiller=octopode_crusher )) x=cdist(gid) $* 20:22:54 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 20:23:02 oh I don't really need cdist I guess 20:23:12 !lg * (( kmap~~gammafunk|wizlab_lehudib kmap!~overflow || ikiller=asterion || ikiller=octopode_crusher )) 20:23:27 930. anon the Slicer (L15 VSCj of Ru), slain by a titanic slime creature on D:15 (gammafunk_enter_depths_forms) on 2015-04-21 15:13:07, with 70934 points after 29177 turns and 1:42:26. 20:23:29 %git df9fcda7 20:23:29 07wheals02 * 0.17-a0-735-gdf9fcda: Enhance and clean up the parameters for newgame_make_item. 10(30 hours ago, 7 files, 294+ 660-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/df9fcda76a76 20:24:07 this looks like the commit that broke curare. it's causing all needles to stack together, with the same type as the first one you get. same for any other branded ammo you start with 20:24:38 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 20:24:45 heh 20:24:57 !function newgame_make_item 20:24:58 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/ng-setup.cc#l158 20:25:42 gammafunk: maybe add a start> condition too 20:26:07 start condition? 20:26:09 although I guess by now the majority of games would be ones you want to check 20:26:13 it's to count all of my kills 20:26:26 if you mean .gfkills 20:26:29 !lg * (( kmap~~gammafunk|wizlab_lehudib kmap!~overflow || ikiller=asterion || ikiller=octopode_crusher )) 1 20:26:30 -!- Aryth has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.0.4 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/] 20:26:36 i can see what's going wrong. the stacking behavior was always "wrong", but it was working fine because you had to specify an inv slot before wheals's change, so it never happened 20:26:52 !lg * kmap~~nicolae 20:26:59 1/930. Surr the Executioner (L26 LOEn of Nemelex Xobeh), hit from afar by a thorn hunter (volley of thorns) (kmap: gammafunk_forest_water_palace) on Forest:4 on 2013-09-17 21:49:25, with 612378 points after 57516 turns and 4:48:40. 20:27:00 2574. Tabstorm the Grappler (L10 MiTm of Fedhas), mangled by a gargoyle (a +0 flail) (kmap: nicolae_lab_grate_2) in a Labyrinth on 2015-04-21 22:11:10, with 5655 points after 10357 turns and 0:25:50. 20:27:07 good tabstorm kill 20:27:16 and good surr kill 20:27:27 2574 kills for me? 20:27:28 !lg * 1 20:27:30 1/4237233. Eidolos the Magician (L1 OMWz), slain by a gnoll (a flail of protection) on D:1 on 2006-12-02 23:47:10, with 20 points after 15 turns and 0:00:04. 20:27:30 *bursts into tears* 20:27:34 this is the happiest day 20:27:38 !lg * 1 start>20130917 20:27:40 1/1689028. Velsharoon the Stinger (L2 DEVM), slain by a jackal on D:1 on 2013-09-17 00:02:27, with 70 points after 533 turns and 0:01:17. 20:28:02 if nobody minds i'll figure out how to fix the curare thing. diving into the item code will be a good learning experience 20:28:22 gammafunk: if you add start>20130916 to gfkills it should search ~40% less data 20:28:37 well I'm not sure that will actually help given the condition 20:28:59 ? 20:29:52 -!- Jonatan has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:30:21 !lg * kmap~~nicolae -2574 20:30:51 !lg * kmap~~nicolae 1 20:30:57 oh. 20:31:01 1/2574. BoredOne the Jinx (L12 SpEn of Ashenzari), slain by a minotaur in a Labyrinth (nicolae_lab_dead_adventurers) on 2013-01-17 12:54:38, with 18866 points after 18783 turns and 1:48:38. 20:31:48 1/2574. BoredOne the Jinx (L12 SpEn of Ashenzari), slain by a minotaur in a Labyrinth (nicolae_lab_dead_adventurers) on 2013-01-17 12:54:38, with 18866 points after 18783 turns and 1:48:38. 20:32:01 so it just took a while. sorry, Sequell 20:33:02 does vault checking only go back that far? it's weird that my first vault kill was like a year after i submitted my first vault 20:33:10 oh interesting, make debug makes you automatically start in wizmode 20:33:33 be careful! the power!!! 20:33:47 -!- st_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:34:25 ??mantis 20:34:30 mantis[1/2]: To report bugs or submit new content like vaults, patches or tiles, go to: http://crawl.develz.org/mantis/main_page.php 20:36:38 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20:38:12 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:39:56 Fix stacking behavior for items with an ego in newgame_setup 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9668 by amalloy 20:40:15 doubtofbuddha: ^ will fix the curare/poison thing once applied 20:40:27 cool 20:40:33 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 20:40:33 how long does that usually take? 20:40:34 The build passed. (stat_drain - 6f9c090 #2377 : Chris Campbell): http://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/59448098 20:40:34 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 20:40:46 depends how much i bother gammafunk 20:41:18 but for something which is both simple and a bug (rather than new feature), i'd guess before tomorrow 20:41:46 -!- nicolae- has left ##crawl-dev 20:42:03 yeah, bugs can be added pretty quickly 20:42:09 hah 20:42:40 <_miek> nicely done! 20:43:00 thanks 20:43:21 I worked pretty hard on it 20:43:26 what was nicely done? did a bot i'm ignoring just announce something cool? 20:43:48 you're ignoring chei? 20:43:54 bad bot to ignore imo 20:44:03 i'm not 20:44:08 it's there, the mantis issue 20:44:20 20:39 < Cheibriados> Fix stacking behavior for items with an ego in newgame_setup https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9668 by amalloy 20:44:22 <_miek> lol your bugfix amalloy 20:44:24 yeah i saw that 20:44:27 i thought you were implying you had committed it 20:44:44 wow, lotta reaverbs in the channel today 20:47:30 oh, was this making curare as well as 10 poison needles? 20:47:30 gammafunk: no 20:47:30 -!- rophy has quit [Quit: Miranda NG! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-ng.org/] 20:47:30 it was turning the 2 curare needles into poison needles 20:47:30 yeah was reading diff w/o enough context 20:47:30 -!- Cheibriados has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 21:04:09 03amalloy02 {PleasingFungus} 07* 0.17-a0-747-g8a9bede: Also check item egos before choosing to stack them 10(30 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/8a9bededbaa6 21:08:40 -!- Cheibriados has joined ##crawl-dev 21:08:40 -!- The topic of ##crawl-dev is: Crawl Development | Logs: http://s-z.org/crawl-dev/ | People with +v have commit access. | Please keep general Crawl-related chat to ##crawl. | Dev wiki: http://crawl.develz.org/wiki | Long stuff to a pastebin service, please. 21:08:40 -!- The topic of ##crawl is: Play Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup online now! Type ??servers for instructions. | http://crawl.develz.org | FooTV: http://termcast.develz.org - ??footv for instructions | See also ##crawl-offtopic | 0.16 Tournament: http://dobrazupa.org/tournament/0.16/ 21:09:13 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 21:10:24 -!- Lasty has quit [Client Quit] 21:10:56 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 21:15:44 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]] 21:17:09 -!- rossi has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:20:49 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.17-a0-748-gd4056ba: Simplify Ignite Poison 10(3 weeks ago, 1 file, 151+ 148-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/d4056baf73ad 21:20:49 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.17-a0-749-g5cd8c6c: Adjust Ignite Poison's level & schools 10(3 weeks ago, 1 file, 3+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/5cd8c6c3f7bc 21:20:49 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.17-a0-750-g4901378: Tweak debug messages for poison damage 10(6 days ago, 1 file, 2+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/4901378cbbc1 21:20:49 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.17-a0-751-g43ba276: Increase Ignite Poison's direct damage 10(6 days ago, 1 file, 3+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/43ba276a6ec2 21:20:49 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.17-a0-752-gd8b69f4: Adjust Ignite Poison cloud duration 10(6 days ago, 1 file, 4+ 14-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/d8b69f4bc4e6 21:20:49 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.17-a0-753-g814e538: Squash ignite poison spam 10(2 days ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/814e53898a93 21:20:49 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.17-a0-754-g4fd77c5: Remove an outdated comment 10(4 minutes ago, 1 file, 0+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/4fd77c5a4670 21:20:49 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.17-a0-755-g4391640: Update Ignite Poison description 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/439164088af8 21:21:35 -!- coyo7e has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:21:57 ...and lastly Remove Ignite Poison 21:22:26 :) 21:22:50 ??ignite_poison 21:22:50 ignite poison[1/1]: L5 Fire/Tmut spell that damages all (excluding you) in LOS that leave poisonous corpses or are poisoned (+cures it). Turns poison/str.poison/degen potions and poisoned ammo/corpses (excluding your inventory) to flame clouds. Ignites poison/noxious clouds. Makes a temporary venom brand into temporary fire brand. No effect on staff of poison or staff of Olgreb. 21:23:24 I'm still mad at wheals for stealing like 10 millimarvins from that first commit 21:23:27 he beat me to the punch!!! 21:23:51 just work on something no one else will very work on 21:23:59 ...like the crawl spreadsheet.... 21:24:09 :) 21:24:10 .moon 21:24:11 18. [2015-04-22 01:53:23] heteroy the Impregnable (L27 MiNe of Qazlal) entered Lehudib's Moon Base on turn 61976. (Depths:3) 21:24:18 !lg * kmap~~pf_ 21:24:18 142. Mumawsan the Impaler (L15 MfBe of Trog), blasted by an orc sorcerer (bolt of negative energy) on Orc:4 (pf_orc_diabolical) on 2015-04-22 01:04:46, with 78962 points after 23779 turns and 3:16:33. 21:24:21 .moon -tv:channel=moon:>$ 21:24:22 18. heteroy, XL27 MiNe, T:61976 (milestone) requested for moon: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 21:24:28 !lg * kmap~~pf_ / orc 21:24:29 118/142 games for * (kmap~~pf_): N=118/142 (83.10%) 21:24:35 rackin' up the kills.... 21:24:39 !lg * kmap~~pf_ / depths 21:24:39 1/142 games for * (kmap~~pf_): N=1/142 (0.70%) 21:24:42 rip 21:24:50 why didn't i see a chei announcement when pf committed my newgame change? 21:24:50 uh 21:24:58 that query 21:25:00 amalloy: I was also wondering that 21:25:04 gammafunk: ? 21:25:08 you want to see what percent of your kills are from diabolical? 21:25:15 yeah but I'm too lazy to type all that out 21:25:19 PleasingFungus: i'm guessing there's a limit to number of commits he announces at once, if you push a lot 21:25:22 and i don't think I have any other orc vaults 21:25:31 amalloy: there is but it'll say "... and x more" when that happens 21:25:33 well no I mean that's what your query did 21:25:41 also, I pushed your thing before the ignpois stuff 21:25:49 huh 21:27:45 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 21:31:09 .moon -tv:channel=moon:>$:cancel 21:31:10 18. heteroy, XL27 MiNe, T:61976 (milestone) cancel requested for moon: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 21:34:58 -!- tensorpudding has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:37:11 i watched that live! 21:37:51 he forgot to check for the book 21:37:57 not that it matters to a MiNe 21:38:01 -!- Guest1036 is now known as myp 21:38:18 I think that version of ignite poison might still be too weak but who knows. only time will tell 21:39:37 -!- iafm has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 21:41:34 hm 21:43:30 -!- qoala has joined ##crawl-dev 21:44:45 -!- Evablue has quit [Quit: Evablue] 21:45:04 -!- elliptic has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:45:43 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:49:00 !tell MarvinPA With some quick testing, it actually looks like the numbers you have work fairly well. It's something like 3 stone gaints at xl15 or 3 orb guardians at xl 27 to restore 1 stat point 21:49:01 gammafunk: OK, I'll let marvinpa know. 21:49:45 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 21:52:57 -!- mamgar has quit [Quit: Exit Stage Left] 21:57:04 -!- nikheizen has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [Firefox 37.0.1/20150402191859]] 21:57:24 -!- awesomeawe has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:01:38 -!- jbenedetto has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:02:34 -!- Icadius has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:06:51 -!- debo has quit [Quit: orb spiders :(] 22:07:08 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 22:16:43 -!- tswett has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.] 22:17:59 -!- Warrigal has joined ##crawl-dev 22:18:50 -!- quik has quit [Quit: Cause the walls were shaking, the earth was quaking, my mind was aching and we were making it... and you... shook me all night long!] 22:20:34 -!- paroneayea has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:29:20 -!- Krakhan has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 22:29:34 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:32:46 -!- Brannock_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 22:33:09 -!- lessens has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 22:33:09 -!- lessens_ is now known as lessens 22:40:01 -!- Lasty_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:44:01 -!- dodidada has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:49:34 -!- WalkerBoh has joined ##crawl-dev 22:57:12 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 22:59:03 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.17-a0-755-g4391640 (34) 23:02:43 !seen grunt 23:02:43 I last saw Grunt at Mon Apr 20 16:57:07 2015 UTC (1d 11h 5m 34s ago) acting out Grunt hides. on ##crawl-dev. 23:03:03 does anyone know why gozag potion petition pulls potential offerings from a hardcoded master list of combinations? 23:03:25 -!- daagar has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 23:03:49 -!- johlstei_ has joined ##crawl-dev 23:06:36 -!- doubtofbuddha has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:06:38 -!- Siveran has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 23:07:01 -!- johlstei has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 23:08:41 -!- Arkail is now known as Siveran 23:09:22 -!- angelichorsey has joined ##crawl-dev 23:11:31 -!- lessens has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 23:11:31 -!- lessens_ is now known as lessens 23:13:27 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 23:16:15 -!- Evablue has quit [Quit: Evablue] 23:16:41 -!- _aardvark has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 23:17:36 -!- Mekanik has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 23:17:53 -!- DrStalker has quit [] 23:18:48 -!- tgcid has joined ##crawl-dev 23:19:00 -!- ruwin has quit [Quit: Bye] 23:19:21 -!- nixor has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 23:23:45 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 23:24:23 -!- Menche has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:25:00 -!- Krakhan|2 is now known as Krakhan 23:25:01 -!- Krakhan has quit [Changing host] 23:29:16 -!- soundlust has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:32:05 ??awefig 23:32:06 awefig[1/1]: Adjusted Weapon Fighter Score. Compared against your conjuration-index for the purpose of determining your relative castership ratio (see {rcrat}). 23:32:17 ??rcrat 23:32:18 I don't have a page labeled rcrat in my learndb. 23:34:56 ^ I literally can't tell if awefig is supposed to be a parody of crawl's internal formulae or not 23:36:28 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 23:36:29 The build passed. (stat_drain - dcd3f0e #2379 : gammafunk): http://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/59477467 23:36:30 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 23:40:48 -!- shummie has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:42:16 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 23:44:17 it is a parody, but I also complained it was a bad joke 23:44:39 is there a function in crawl somewhere to determine if an effect would be useful for theplayer? 23:45:05 like, return true for healing if you're not at max hp? but false for magic if you're at 3/3mp 23:45:15 that would be a very neat function 23:45:30 it would need to be ternary, not just good/bad 23:46:11 I was thinking binary of is_useful 23:48:32 -!- aarujn has joined ##crawl-dev 23:50:00 -!- agolden has joined ##crawl-dev 23:53:15 -!- Siegurt has joined ##crawl-dev