00:00:10 but before you git commit --amend 00:00:13 check git status 00:00:18 should show that the removal is *staged* 00:00:20 not unstaged 00:02:13 ok, the makes are gone 00:02:18 the patch is still hanging around 00:02:33 oh 00:02:35 there we go 00:02:36 probably same issue, you didn't stage removal of it 00:02:40 wrong name 00:03:36 http://pastebin.com/Ura55KYf 00:03:38 this should be good? 00:04:04 -!- meatpath has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 00:04:12 wait no, this is missing the other stuff 00:04:22 uh, oops yeah 00:04:28 you clobbered your tilepick.cc changes 00:04:33 yeah 00:04:36 -!- indspenceable has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:04:59 looks like you just totally remade that first commit 00:05:03 instead of editing it 00:05:05 somehow 00:05:17 apparently 00:06:54 hm 00:06:56 you can use commands to retreive old commtis if you don't have a backup 00:07:00 I'm not sure if gastronok should appear on d:8 00:07:15 is there a way to just start fresh? 00:07:36 do you want to go back to your commit with the tilepick.cc changes? 00:07:46 let's try that first 00:08:50 git reflog 00:08:58 gets you a list of commits 00:09:16 one of those is one at the end of that set of 5 00:09:30 you can copy the hash you see 00:09:35 and do git log on that hash 00:09:38 git log 00:09:52 I guess the log won't tell you mutch 00:09:55 *much 00:10:14 can do git diff ~1 00:10:20 to see if it has tilepick.cc stuff 00:10:26 but if you find the one you want in the reflog 00:10:33 you can do git reset --hard 00:10:49 it's the first commit after I initially cloned the directory? 00:11:08 well I don't know which it is but do 00:11:16 git diff and in that diff output, see if it has stuff changing tilepick.cc 00:11:39 it's the first commit, yeah 00:11:53 git reset --hard 00:11:57 then when you git log 00:11:59 you should see it 00:12:13 git reset --hard makes your HEAD that commit 00:12:21 effectively reseting you to that state 00:12:23 yeah, back at the commit 00:12:29 git branch 00:12:31 what does it show? 00:12:49 as in, are you on master 00:13:06 yeah 00:13:09 -!- st_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:13:16 CanOfWorms: make a patch and see what's in it 00:13:19 to confirm you got what you want 00:13:45 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 00:13:49 yup 00:13:55 http://pastebin.com/YVkdrPqn 00:13:57 just missing the tiles 00:13:58 -!- indspenc_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:14:08 well there's that little init but whatever 00:14:09 chequers: no, it's good the way it is 00:14:36 CanOfWorms: oh you need to remove that init modification 00:14:41 -!- tcsc has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 00:14:59 what's the cleanest way to do that? 00:15:00 CanOfWorms: recommend you make an rc file and put it in ~/.crawlrc 00:15:11 then you don't have to modify that 00:15:20 chequers: i mean, if you want to change it, go for it, but it's not like it takes any time now that i have the script set up 00:15:24 crawl-ref/.crawlrc 00:15:25 ontoclasm: ok, I'm going to post a patch to let it support multi-process compression and backwards compatible behaviour 00:15:30 CanOfWorms: no home dir 00:15:33 source? 00:15:36 you can copy init.txt to ~/.crawlrc 00:15:42 wait no, not source 00:15:48 so cp settings/init.txt ~/.crawlrc 00:15:55 if you're in the crawl-ref dir 00:17:05 -!- Cerpin has joined ##crawl-dev 00:17:20 CanOfWorms: to reset init.txt 00:17:26 chequers: oh, nice 00:17:29 git checkout origin/master settings/init.txt 00:17:53 then you can commit that change (do git commit -a --amend) 00:17:58 yeah, that went in 00:18:04 -a for "add all unstaged changes" 00:18:07 -!- hy-on-github has joined ##crawl-dev 00:18:52 amend is the best feature of git 00:19:01 http://pastebin.com/BTgSMUMJ 00:19:03 this looks right 00:19:06 I don't know ammend 00:19:09 amend 00:19:12 ...assuming that, like me, the user is completely incompetent 00:19:28 commit --amend means "...also stick this into that last commit" 00:19:31 my favorite git command is: git commit -am "THE STUFF" 00:19:33 oh 00:19:38 so 00:19:44 git add oops.txt 00:19:51 yes 00:19:58 git commit --amend "forgot to add this file" 00:20:01 CanOfWorms: now git commit --amend again 00:20:07 and add a decent commit message :) 00:20:17 does it concat the commit message? 00:20:20 make sure first line is no more than 72 char 00:20:24 or just add it as a second line? 00:20:31 recommend switching your edit to pico or nano or learning vi 00:20:39 ontoclasm: what do you edit with, vi? 00:20:41 I can't believe I love vi now 00:20:53 I blame cbro 00:21:02 since it's all command-line access. I had no choice 00:21:34 unless I wanted to sftp files back and forth (and worry about line endings and chowning files since I don't have my crawl-dev account ssh access) 00:22:02 I still don't use hjkl to navigate though, so I'm not viPRO 00:22:08 and upload? 00:22:28 gammafunk: usually i just use notepad but sometimes codeblocks 00:22:34 i am a plebe 00:22:38 and looks like it auto-newlined for me 00:23:14 should I put it on mantis now? 00:23:17 ontoclasm: oh, you mean you edit it outside of msys and paste it in? 00:23:18 johnstein: when you --amend it takes you back to editing the commit message so you can leave it as is or change it or whatever 00:23:33 ah ok. kinda like rebase (I think) 00:23:33 gammafunk: ...wait, edit what, commit messages? 00:23:35 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:23:37 ontoclasm: yeah 00:23:42 oh, yeah, vi 00:23:45 oh ok 00:23:49 -!- Cerpin has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 00:23:51 CanOfWorms: well are the tiles you made for trj 00:23:56 are they finished? 00:23:59 i hate it but luckily my commit messages are super simple usually 00:24:04 what I saw didn't look complete 00:24:16 yeah figures, since it's just "add tile" 00:24:24 -!- indspenceable has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 00:24:28 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 00:24:31 whoops 00:24:37 anyway, should I put the patch on mantis finally? 00:24:43 re what you asked 00:24:45 CanOfWorms: well are the tiles you made for trj 00:24:47 so dumb tourney question. if I start an MiBe game right at the beginning when the point rewards are high, but I don't win that game till the last day, do I get the 100 points for the win? or the 6 (or whatever low value it is at the end)? 00:24:50 are they finished 00:24:52 no 00:25:11 then probably not, since it's unfinished 00:25:13 alright 00:25:18 unless I misunderstand your question 00:25:22 so make tiles, then patch up? 00:25:29 the patch has the code and placeholder tiles 00:25:29 yeah and clean up commit message 00:25:32 format is 00:25:38 first line is title, 72 char max is good 00:25:38 johnstein: the former 00:25:40 then newline 00:25:43 johnstein: "before the start of the win in question and S of those T were with the given species. " implies it matters the former 00:25:45 then anything else you want to say 00:25:46 yup, did that 00:25:48 ok 00:25:51 well s/implies/says/ :P 00:25:53 -!- indspenc_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:26:05 elliptic: looks like 0.16 is live on cwz but he didn't set up the logfile 00:26:12 hopefully we can get ahold of him again 00:26:42 johnstein: it looks at the point values at the time you start the game 00:26:50 so I guess in essence I pinged you for no reason! 00:26:53 gammafunk: I checked a little while ago and 0.16 wasn't starting new games 00:26:58 oh 00:27:09 gammafunk: you know how webtiles creates giant png images containing hundreds of tiles? I discovered you can reduce their size to 50-80% with optipng/advpng during make -- are you happy to add those programs as dependencies for webtiles server? 00:27:18 elliptic: ok. was thinking that was exploitable 00:27:29 but then when I started thinking through it, it sounded convoluted enough that probably not 00:28:03 -!- read has joined ##crawl-dev 00:28:03 ...purgy can appear in d 00:28:04 -!- ghostter has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:28:06 -!- caleba has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:28:09 yes 00:28:12 its very rare 00:28:15 chequers: hrm that process happens when I do the debian build, and I'd assumed you use it 00:28:15 (starting games with "easy" combos on several servers at the start of the tourney to preserve the higher score. but that kinda works against streaking and there's no guarantee you'll win so it's kinda silly) 00:28:16 yes, I see that! 00:28:24 i hope you saw it in a game of crawl 00:28:27 sorry :( 00:28:38 should purgy and snorg have special dialogue if they both appear? 00:28:41 johnstein: that doesn't work well for streaking, yeah 00:28:41 chequers: so is what you're talking about different? 00:28:47 gammafunk: not the individual tiles, but the aggregated tile images 00:28:51 chequers: i thought the makefile already did that 00:28:58 chequers: yeah that's what this runs on 00:29:00 CanOfWorms: should sigmund and jessica have special dialogue if they both appear? 00:29:00 minmay: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 00:29:04 e.g. when I make the debs, it does that 00:29:04 !messages 00:29:05 (1/1) gammafunk said (1h 34m 29s ago): think of how much joy that toilet paper has brought to your life though 00:29:05 johnstein: and also the harder/less popular species/background/gods are worth a lot of points later in the tourney usually 00:29:12 maybe 00:29:19 hm, i thought the debs just contained all the tiny tiles 00:29:20 is sigmund jessica's papa 00:29:24 rather than the big tile maps that webtiles uses 00:29:37 chequers: no...how would it do that. it needs tilesheets just like webtiles does 00:29:39 johnstein: so you might just want to play those anyway rather than the medium amount of points that MiBe is worth at the beginning 00:29:41 tiles and webtiles both use tilesheets 00:29:43 My point is that the only association between purgy and snorg is "they're both unique trolls" 00:29:44 elliptic: also, the vow of courage III one sounds kinda tricky to do since you kinda have to hope for a hell portal on L:8 or do tomb and hope to get abyssed 00:30:08 gammafunk: hm, so what's the point of optimising pngs before they go into the repo? repo size? 00:30:31 johnstein: basically MiBe at the start of the tourney is worth an average number of points, not a high number of points 00:30:41 chequers: yeah think so 00:30:46 elliptic: yea. I still haven't had a non-Be win, so I'm not always thinking about the other combos with higher scores 00:30:56 well, it's a high number of points for MiBe :P 00:31:04 but yea, I'm getting a better picture now 00:31:09 gammafunk: actually, when you say 'the debian build', what do you mean? I can't see any reference to optipng in the makefiles currently 00:31:15 chequers: might ask |amethyst about that, but yeah webtiles targets should run those tilesheet optimizations if the command are available 00:31:22 right, if you do care about tourney points and aren't that confident in winning non-Be then starting a MiBe early in the tourney is probably a good idea 00:31:26 oh, pngcrush 00:31:29 all my wins have been Be and are usually late in the tourney so I never get lots of bonus points 00:31:41 which is really in line with my performance when you think about it 00:31:46 chequers: yeah that's it 00:31:47 which silently fails for me >_> 00:31:47 so seems like things are working well :) 00:32:00 there are alternative it can use, I think at least 00:32:30 minmay: I was going to say something to you earlier and then I forgot 00:32:32 sorry 00:32:33 chequers: so your webtiles wasn't using these at all? 00:32:38 right 00:32:40 johnstein: about vow of courage, tomb+abyss is the normal way of doing it -- entering abyss isn't that difficult, since usually you find a distortion weapon and at worst you can go to elf and get some friendly monster to banish you there 00:32:42 that would slow things down for sure :) 00:32:42 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 00:32:49 alright, I'll make some extra TRJ tiles tomorrow and then upload the patch on mantis 00:33:06 oh. yea. wasn't thinking about distort 00:33:06 ok, so if pngcrush is installed, it will silently use that, and if you specify USE_ADVPNG it will use that 00:33:12 thanks for the metric ton of help gammafunk :v 00:33:15 np 00:33:45 so many damn png optimisers 00:34:02 chequers: well that's great that you can speed up your games 00:34:04 -!- caleba has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:34:08 I should have thought/asked about that at one point 00:34:22 but I've never set up a "real" server, just gone through the steps locally 00:34:46 yeah 00:35:00 let me compare pngcrush to optipng & advpng 00:35:07 -!- caleba has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:35:07 chequers: optimize-pngs itself runs two different ones! 00:35:10 how do you feel about making some sort of optimisation mandatory? 00:35:22 ontoclasm: yes, they work in different ways 00:35:27 pngcrush is a little like optipng 00:35:42 hm 00:35:47 -!- bitcoinbastard has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:35:55 not sure making it mandatory is really meaningful, I guess you mean to help avoid mistakes like that, but our build system and server setup in general... 00:36:05 |amethyst's instructions do mention it explicitely 00:36:11 but you did a custom setup 00:36:15 right 00:36:17 i don't know a damn thing about any of them aside from that they tend to convert things to indexed color 00:36:17 x3 00:36:21 so cwz 0.16 isn't working for me, but I do show up in the game list after I fail to load 00:36:41 haha 00:36:43 qwqw 00:36:50 yes, my testing account 00:37:07 I can't load trunk either so maybe just my browser doesn't like cwz webtiles 00:37:11 printing a warning during make is probably too obscure, since there's too much output 00:37:17 oh yeah it just sent me back to lobby 00:37:21 I do sometimes have difficulty loading webtiles on other servers too 00:37:22 maybe he's still working on it 00:37:55 elliptic: yeah and edit rc just does nothing 00:38:03 oh and yeah there I am 00:38:05 n the lobby list 00:38:23 welp, hopefully he'll get it working or come and get help setting it up 00:38:58 -!- caleba has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:39:51 !tell hong 0.16 on webzook doesn't work for us when we start a new game or edit rc files. Also, when you do get it working, please set up http://webzook.net:82/ with the 0.16 directory with logfile and milestones. 00:39:52 gammafunk: OK, I'll let hong know. 00:41:09 do you see a splash screen? 00:42:19 yes the first time 00:42:26 after that it just took me to lobby 00:42:32 and apparently launched a process 00:42:44 yeah I'm still listed 00:42:44 hrm 00:43:06 gammafunk: ah yeah, advpng & pngcrush are both used transparently 00:43:09 yeah clicking on game takes me bakc to lobby 00:43:18 -!- hy-on-github has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 00:43:36 -!- caleba has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:43:55 also it seems pngcrush is basically as efficient as optipng but runs in 1sec rather than 30 00:45:25 -!- indspenceable has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 00:56:16 PleasingFungus: are you aware of a thing where players can't use blink in sprint? 00:56:34 don't know why I'm asking PleasingFungus specifically, but if anyone knows why 00:57:03 it might be my fault 00:57:04 are you sure they're trying to blink and not teleport 00:57:05 I wasn't aware, no 00:57:12 minmay: this was ?blink 00:57:22 someone mentioned this: http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blobdiff;f=crawl-ref/source/ability.cc;h=e9d369c22e11bfb13056a8ff0c5a2b3e3b1b55db;hp=31c0b1794896d8f24a61ccccddacfcc5450d4467;hb=4a5b4a08cda3e1fda6f55b99c6b43dbdab0ba633;hpb=43f0507c1a97bc7de89864d6d56bdfb893e812a8 00:57:22 haha 00:57:22 yes 00:57:26 but I don't know if it's related 00:57:29 yup, nobody can blink in sprint 00:57:33 -!- hy-on-github has joined ##crawl-dev 00:57:33 good job devs 00:57:37 shit 00:57:45 hm 00:57:59 this commit is from september 00:58:11 %git 4a5b4a08cda3 00:58:11 07wheals02 * 0.16-a0-898-g4a5b4a0: Allow using +Blink while able to teleport, disallow under -Tele. 10(6 months ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=4a5b4a08cda3 00:58:17 at least it was 0.16 00:58:19 http://sprunge.us/QXLH Subject: [PATCH] Print warning when advpng is missing. 00:58:38 yeah that would do it 00:58:51 er wait, maybe not 00:59:01 yeah I haven't read the context 00:59:07 does sprint actually have -tele 00:59:13 -!- Krakhan has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 00:59:33 yeah it should 00:59:40 since teleports are bad there...er 00:59:42 I guess? 00:59:50 afaik it has a bunch of things that prevent tele items from spawning 00:59:50 I think it doesn't allow teleport 00:59:54 but I don't think it actually has -tele 01:00:12 look I don't even have my GED, don't ask em 01:00:23 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 01:00:38 Oh, cancel that 01:00:41 you can blink in sprint 01:00:44 you just can't controlled blink 01:00:51 huh 01:00:53 semicontrolled blink works too 01:00:54 Hm . . . Quick Teleport question: Treeform prevents teleport -- does this include prevention of Abyss-ing? :) Should it? :) 01:01:00 I just evoked a ring of blink, yeah 01:01:03 but you get "strange sense of stasis" if you try to use the scroll or spell 01:01:06 hy-on-github: it does not and should not 01:01:16 stasis and -tele likewise don't prevent abyssing 01:01:30 ok cool 01:01:40 so that's by-design 01:01:43 ya 01:01:50 kk 01:01:51 that's a kind of nasty bug 01:02:09 hrm 01:02:11 I actually have no idea what is causing this 01:02:27 I guess if we fix we should just do a fast 0.16.1 01:03:07 doesn't affect tournament at least 01:04:57 03PleasingFungus02 07[unique_xp] * 0.17-a0-40-gbbcec33: Adjust D unique depths 10(24 minutes ago, 1 file, 32+ 32-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=bbcec33c611a 01:04:58 -!- SomeStupidGuy has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:05:12 -!- indspenc_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 01:06:05 i actually noticed i couldnt use ?blink in meatsprint the other day, but i thought it mightve been an intentional change for that sprint 01:06:07 !tell elliptic if you could glance at bbcec33c611a , I'd appreciate it (no rush, just more unique tweaks, per our earlier discussion) 01:06:08 PleasingFungus: OK, I'll let elliptic know. 01:06:17 confusing commit title, in a way 01:06:17 I also get "strange sense of stasis" for casting controlled blink spell in sprint while holding the orb 01:06:27 !source player::no_tele 01:06:28 but not for using a scroll of blinking, since it reverts to uncontrolled in a different way I guess 01:06:28 1/1. http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/player.cc;hb=HEAD#l7060 01:06:31 oh was it that change 01:06:38 re: orb + cblink that broke it? 01:06:54 possible, but.. 01:07:04 I wonder if the wrong param for 'blinking' is getting passed in somewhere 01:07:06 hm 01:07:23 orb+cblink was changed? 01:07:45 yes 01:07:56 mpa made it always semicontrolled instead of coinflip semi/uncontrolled 01:07:58 -!- JoeltCo has quit [Client Quit] 01:08:54 %git :/[Cc]ontrolled.*[Oo]rb 01:08:54 07MarvinPA02 * 0.16-a0-4028-g9b827bd: Make the ORB always degrade cblink to semicontrolled 10(3 weeks ago, 1 file, 1+ 12-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=9b827bd11eee 01:09:09 this doesn't seem like it could have done anything to cause this 01:10:07 god damn it 01:10:15 I think I have it 01:10:23 this wouldn't happen in python.... 01:10:24 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Quit: Connection reset by pier.] 01:12:07 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.17-a0-73-g0af1500: Don't block controlled blink in Sprint 10(34 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=0af1500ecf99 01:12:08 03PleasingFungus02 07[stone_soup-0.16] * 0.16.0-1-gbc1383b: Don't block controlled blink in Sprint 10(35 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=bc1383bec191 01:12:31 probably was my fault, let's see 01:12:53 oh, how did I miss that 01:13:05 it's pretty subtle 01:13:21 the other controlled-blink call to no_tele has the right number of 'true's 01:13:30 oh 01:13:34 %git 23836d30 01:13:34 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.16-a0-3991-g23836d3: Don't prompt on reading un-id'd ?blink under stasis (wheals) 10(4 weeks ago, 2 files, 14+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=23836d303e0b 01:13:36 I was like "I specifically checked for that!" 01:13:43 I'm gonna blame wheals for this 01:13:44 completely unfairly 01:13:44 but didn't notice it had two calls lol 01:13:56 un-id'd scrolls.... 01:14:05 hrm 01:14:10 looks like that was half a fix 01:14:52 no, it... works...? 01:14:53 hm 01:15:06 -!- Ultraviolent4 has quit [Client Quit] 01:16:09 oh, I see, the item_use one only has two parameters 01:16:10 ok 01:16:12 so we're good. 01:16:32 "the in spl-transloc.cc can (probably?) never be reached at present, but should prevent future incidents." 01:16:34 Thanks, Past Me 01:18:13 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.17-a0-72-gd614ac0 (34) 01:19:59 well, the apt repo is updated and the repo works and the debs work on debian testing 01:20:02 so \o/ 01:20:06 :) 01:21:04 !tell Grunt I accidentally deleted your chat window with the commands! but! I basically remembered them and 0.16 is in the repo! And I tested it with debian testing and it worked! Let me know if it works for you! Bye! 01:21:04 gammafunk: OK, I'll let grunt know. 01:22:19 oh I should make windows and source packages for Napkin in case that's usefull 01:22:21 -!- honeybadger has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:22:24 then tell him where they are 01:22:24 ok, now that I've made the first commit of 0.16.1, fixed a critical bug, and made sigmund spawn on d:1 01:22:26 I'm good for the night 01:22:44 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [Firefox 36.0/20150222232811]] 01:24:59 -!- edsrzf has quit [Client Quit] 01:25:42 -!- indspenceable has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:28:10 -!- SomeStupidGuy has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 01:30:32 -!- SomeStupidGirl has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:30:42 -!- the_glow1 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:38:53 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:39:07 i'll put up an osx build on my server in case it's neede 01:41:11 -!- caleba has quit [Client Quit] 01:43:22 -!- JoeltCo has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:44:26 !stats grfi 01:44:28 Starting stats for GrFi: Str 19 Int 8 Dex 9. Stat gain: si/4 01:45:07 -!- st_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:45:26 -!- indspenc_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 01:45:30 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 01:46:53 http://crawl.project357.org/static/crawl-0.16-tiles.zip & http://crawl.project357.org/static/crawl-0.16-console.zip (in 5mins) 01:47:02 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 01:47:03 The build has errored. 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Use !messages to read them. 02:17:21 i'll be available for working on cdo in about 4 hours 02:21:00 -!- Cerpin has joined ##crawl-dev 02:21:44 Stable (0.16) branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.16.0-1-gbc1383b 02:25:42 -!- indspenceable has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:27:57 -!- Cerpin has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:31:55 32 haha 02:34:24 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.17-a0-73-g0af1500 (34) 02:37:10 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 02:46:07 -!- indspenc_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:46:28 -!- rockit has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 02:46:36 -!- rockit_ is now known as rockit 02:47:20 -!- indspenceable has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:48:07 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 02:49:25 -!- st_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:49:38 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 02:50:04 -!- Plasmo has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:07:46 -!- orneryostrich has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:12:41 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:15:11 -!- st_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:23:44 -!- orneryostrich has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:30:18 -!- indspenceable has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 03:32:25 -!- twb has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:33:43 -!- FuHanchu has quit [Quit: Sayonara, Zetsubou Sensei!] 03:37:11 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 03:38:35 -!- tingol3 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:41:54 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 03:44:37 -!- Xenobreeder has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 03:46:58 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:49:57 -!- zxc232 has joined ##crawl-dev 03:54:27 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 03:57:53 -!- hy-on-github has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 04:03:10 -!- Xenobreeder has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:08:03 -!- xordid has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 04:10:01 -!- mumra_ has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 04:17:00 -!- halberd has quit [Changing host] 04:18:46 -!- TitonicCpt has joined ##crawl-dev 04:20:04 -!- vible has joined ##crawl-dev 04:23:07 -!- TitonicCpt has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:25:58 -!- Cerpin has joined ##crawl-dev 04:26:03 -!- Wolfechu has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:28:55 -!- Basil has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 04:29:12 -!- orneryostrich has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 04:30:34 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:32:33 -!- Celesta_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 04:39:22 -!- hy-on-github has joined ##crawl-dev 04:48:24 -!- mumra has joined ##crawl-dev 04:48:54 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 04:56:31 -!- Patashu has quit [Disconnected by services] 04:56:31 -!- Patashu_ has joined ##crawl-dev 04:57:21 -!- ketsa has joined ##crawl-dev 04:59:39 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 05:01:03 !tell Napkin I've uploaded the 0.16 windows binary intaller+zips and the source tarballs+zips to ~crawl/upload on cdo, if that's useful. The tarballs+zips have gone on sourceforge in the past, which I think Grunt or |amethyst have access to change. 05:01:04 gammafunk: OK, I'll let napkin know. 05:01:05 -!- gammafunk has quit [Quit: leaving] 05:02:47 -!- Patashu_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 05:02:48 i'm happy to host them on amazon cdn, if you'd like 05:03:16 -!- Patashu_ has joined ##crawl-dev 05:03:36 -!- Patashu has quit [Disconnected by services] 05:05:10 -!- Patashu_ has quit [Client Quit] 05:06:21 -!- NeremWorld has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 05:20:00 -!- Monkaria has quit [Client Quit] 05:27:58 Kitty (L14 SpEn) (D:10) 05:37:30 -!- mumra has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 05:37:46 -!- siepu has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 05:43:58 -!- ElanMorin has joined ##crawl-dev 06:05:43 -!- muravey_ has quit [Quit: Be back later ...] 06:17:12 -!- siepu has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 06:18:34 -!- Bcadren has joined ##crawl-dev 06:18:51 -!- mumra has joined ##crawl-dev 06:26:18 -!- ldf has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:28:09 -!- Crehl has quit [Quit: Killed by a kitten] 06:32:21 -!- indspenceable has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 06:36:03 -!- Cerpin has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 06:43:31 -!- ololoev has quit [Client Quit] 06:44:16 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 07:06:17 -!- muravey_ has joined ##crawl-dev 07:10:25 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 07:10:29 -!- muravey_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 07:14:50 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 07:20:03 hi 07:20:15 who needs a team member ? ;) 07:21:18 -!- DrKe has joined ##crawl-dev 07:22:10 -!- GrWz has quit [Quit: Page closed] 07:26:55 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 07:30:10 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:33:28 -!- Earlo has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:46:34 -!- Adder has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 07:56:41 -!- edlothiol has joined ##crawl-dev 07:57:21 -!- BanMido has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 07:59:04 -!- Xenobreeder has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 07:59:22 -!- Brannock_ has joined ##crawl-dev 08:04:57 -!- DoesNetneedThro has quit [Client Quit] 08:08:22 -!- siepu has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 08:11:29 -!- mumra has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:19:53 -!- AreBrandon has joined ##crawl-dev 08:27:31 -!- Galewind has quit [Quit: Page closed] 08:33:51 -!- Cerpin has joined ##crawl-dev 08:39:21 -!- mumra has joined ##crawl-dev 08:39:27 -!- Cerpin has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:41:52 -!- MgDark has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:45:39 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:46:04 -!- Doom651 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:48:17 -!- Bacchus_Crawl has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:56:40 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 08:59:37 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 09:00:22 -!- ystael_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 09:02:46 03elliptic02 07* 0.17-a0-74-gbe451b3: Fix throwing a wielded item taking much less time. 10(3 minutes ago, 3 files, 12+ 6-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=be451b3450e4 09:03:19 03elliptic02 07[stone_soup-0.16] * 0.16.0-2-gb487679: Fix throwing a wielded item taking much less time. 10(4 minutes ago, 3 files, 12+ 6-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=b48767947500 09:03:25 IMO a good bug 09:07:01 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 09:09:29 -!- Nerem has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:09:42 -!- SomeStupidGuy has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 09:17:29 -!- meatpath has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 09:18:29 -!- muravey_ has joined ##crawl-dev 09:22:44 -!- muravey_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 09:22:58 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 09:27:25 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 09:37:44 -!- buki has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 09:45:14 -!- siepu has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:46:31 -!- mauris has joined ##crawl-dev 09:47:13 -!- Lawman0 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:48:30 -!- MgDark has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 09:49:19 elliptic: heh, yeah. In 0.17 I hope to fix the "bug" where throwing weapons are much better than weapons from launchers. 09:51:22 do you still eligible for ruthless efficiency 3 if you sacrifice exp? 09:51:26 s/do/are 09:51:56 !lg . won s=char,xl o=-xl 09:51:56 -!- tingol3 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:51:57 Bad filter condition: 'xl' (extra: ) 09:52:03 !lg . won s=xl,char o=-xl 09:52:04 78 games for kvaak (won): 2x 21 (FeAK, MiBe), 8x 22 (DEAs, DsEE, MiTm, MuSu, SaTm, VSAs, VSFi, VSHu), 12x 23 (CeTm, FeTm, HOBe, MfAM, MuMo, TeAE, VSEE, VSFE, VSNe, VSVM, VSWn, VSWr), 16x 24 (DDTm, DgTm, DrTm, HECK, MfTm, SpTm, TrTm, VSAK, VSAM, VSAr, VSDK, VSEn, VSGl, VSHe, VSIE, VSMo), 13x 25 (DDTm, DETm, DsTm, GhMo, HETm, HOWn, HuMo, HuTm, TeHu, TeTm, VpFE, VSSk, VSWz), 11x 26 (FeFE, FoAK, HOGl,... 09:52:06 no (it specifies that in the banner desc) 09:52:06 MarvinPA: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 09:52:15 it doesn't specify that in the scoring page 09:52:45 well those are on the same page 09:52:54 so it kinda does! 09:53:00 kvaak: I'll add it there, thanks 09:53:02 oh. huh. apparently 09:53:12 but yeah having it up next to the points bit makes sense too 09:53:41 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:54:55 added 10:00:09 mumra lets start a team 10:01:50 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 10:06:02 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 10:06:40 -!- muravey_ has joined ##crawl-dev 10:08:00 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 10:08:08 !crashlog Kitty 10:08:09 3. Kitty, XL14 SpEn, T:22069 (milestone): http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/Kitty/crash-Kitty-20150313-102758.txt 10:10:40 yall got a clever team name pleasingfungus 10:10:46 ????? 10:11:33 I'm on Team lootfeel 10:11:36 -!- muravey_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 10:12:03 i think i`m soloing it 10:12:30 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 10:13:07 mm 10:13:11 a powerful challenge. 10:13:41 -!- rockit has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:14:05 FR: potion of deflect missiles 10:14:20 combine it with decay or something 10:15:46 That was really gross and weird! You are deflecting missles! 10:17:34 it makes sense. 10:18:13 -!- Foamed has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:19:09 alot of people don`t know this but....i placed second in logic team 10:20:07 You begin to radiate repulsive energy! You feel fantastic! 10:21:45 it used to be that even though regular old jelly beans were still around someone decided it wasn`t enough and made harry potter jelly beans and those were gross and weird but fun at the same time 10:22:27 my point is my idea is a great one 10:23:05 Your repulsive radiation grows stronger. You feel fantastic! 10:24:10 you should feel fantastic when that happens but when its just dexterity+2 it should say you feel alright 10:24:44 Forgive me if this has been changed in new stable, I've still only played 0.15. Why can't Fe use wands in Ice Form? "No means to grasp firmly enough" explanation used to be used to explain why they can't in normal form; but getting that when turning to ice just seems silly (from a flavour perspective) what is 'no wands in Ice form" supposed to accomplish anyways (from a practical perspective)? 10:25:28 -!- siepu has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:26:45 why (don`t) you fire up trunk; (and find out) ? 10:27:22 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:27:42 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:28:24 It was something I noticed that seemed weird (flavour perspective) and opaque (no practical reason to expect sudden lack of wands); that I didn't see the practical reason for. 10:29:06 I don't like several of the new buttons and glyphs and when I downloaded new stable as trunk it was...weirdly laggy (Offline). I guess locally you don't call that lag, but odd delay. 10:31:40 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 10:31:45 condolences 10:31:53 -!- Lawman0 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:32:46 no one can use wands in ice form because of the fucked up paws or claws or whatever they have 10:33:47 ever seen an ice beast use a wand? 10:34:07 that's a flavor perspective answer though. is there a practical reason for it? 10:34:31 canonically, ice beasts have both paws & fists. 10:34:31 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:34:48 yes you`re a dumb fuckin beast and you can`t throw or anything 10:34:56 not really how that pans out, but there you go. 10:35:09 wands, rocks, you can`t figure it out because you`re a stupid beast made of ice 10:35:34 I presume the item restrictions on tm forms is a balance thing since they're strong 10:35:44 as for practicality you can`t use blowguns in dragon form either 10:35:55 they CAN figure it out its just they have fucked up hands 10:36:05 <|amethyst> dragon form is the inconsistent one 10:36:05 |amethyst: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 10:36:22 some mix of balance and flavor 10:36:34 also, I have a very strong suspicion that we're not going to release 0.16 before the tournament 10:36:34 <|amethyst> for every other form, they can use wands iff they can use weapons 10:36:35 which is pretty funny 10:37:18 it's tagged! 10:37:41 -!- Cerpin has joined ##crawl-dev 10:37:46 whats the holdup? i gave permission 10:37:58 <|amethyst> which isn't great... it means we can't fix bugs between now and release :( 10:38:13 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 10:38:17 <|amethyst> or, we can, but there's no point 10:38:34 for example 10:38:36 %git 0af1500ecf 10:38:36 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.17-a0-73-g0af1500: Don't block controlled blink in Sprint 10(9 hours ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=0af1500ecf99 10:38:44 rip 10:39:08 It felt particularly weird as a felid though, since [flavour perspective] what did you hold it in your mouth to begin with? 10:39:23 -!- DrKe has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 10:39:47 <|amethyst> wands were added to felids for balance reasons without much concern for flavour 10:40:03 could this "The tourney scripts only check for updates to non-CSZO rcfiles once every four hours" indicate which four hours 10:40:36 <|amethyst> I take the general rule to be that you can use flavour as a justification when adding something, but not when changing something 10:40:46 I had #teamname and not # TEAMNAME in my cao rc and didn't notice until today because I kept forgetting to check if it had updated 10:41:24 <|amethyst> ebering: mention it to elliptic 10:41:35 <|amethyst> or I guess I just pang him, so 10:44:59 -!- DrKe has joined ##crawl-dev 10:45:31 wands are a decent advantage for dragon form over blade hands 10:46:01 -!- Cerpin has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 10:46:32 you waste a turn when turning off blade hands, not a big deal but if you plan to continue slashing stuff that's two turns 10:46:46 2.5 turns 10:46:54 turning off a turn is 1.5 turns 10:46:57 *off a form 10:47:04 oh right, i keep forgetting about that 10:47:11 everyone does 10:47:14 anyway 10:47:17 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [Firefox 36.0/20150222232811]] 10:50:35 -!- SegFaultAX has quit [Excess Flood] 10:52:12 ebering: it isn't exact because wgetting all the rcfiles takes some time and then the scripts also only update every 7-10 minutes on top of that 10:52:53 ebering: so I don't want to say "they update at 23:00 UTC" and then have people worry that they still haven't updated at 23:15 UTC 10:53:30 elliptic: I see. (I figured it took time to run I was really just curious when the cron was set) 10:54:04 yeah, it is 0 3,7,11,15,19,23 * * * 10:54:39 I'm guessing the server is in UTC? 10:54:45 fibonacci sequence 10:55:27 woops soryr. got fucked up eyes 10:55:34 server is in EDT but that is UTC -4 so it doesn't matter here 10:55:51 rad, thanks a bunch 10:56:07 I've never really done Evo on a transmuter anyways; the only reason I noticed on that felid was being out of MP and needing the help (Ice elementalist using ice for for the AC; not a transmuter) 10:56:45 !seen Napkin 10:56:46 I last saw Napkin at Fri Mar 13 07:17:21 2015 UTC (8h 39m 25s ago) saying 'i'll be available for working on cdo in about 4 hours' on ##crawl-dev. 10:59:14 good !seen 11:00:57 you can change lineups for a week or so after the tourney starts right 11:03:36 yeah, until the midway point of the tourney (8 days in) 11:03:42 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 11:03:59 to give people plenty of time to work out the (admittedly finnicky) details of clan registration 11:04:44 guess i'll still have to settle with mashing o and tab on cxc barring a last-minute intervention by the king of naps 11:05:36 * geekosaur still getting his butt kicked by flu that took advantage of the weekend insomnia, but is building 0.16 packages and hoping that he can sign them sanely 11:05:52 |amethyst: can't we delete the 0.16 tag and repush it after the sprint fix? 11:06:02 we haven't actually announced the release anywhere 11:06:26 (this is what i get for trusting retired devs with my bugs....) 11:07:09 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 11:08:42 -!- GoblinBomb has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 11:08:47 the git tag manual has some angry things to say about doing that 11:09:01 or, we could just make sure all official downloads/servers have 0.16.0-2 11:09:05 and just call it 0.16 11:09:27 ...so start over. weee 11:09:27 geekosaur: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 11:11:26 pretty sure we've had worse bugs than sprint cBlink not working in releases before 11:11:33 actually I may have that commit already 11:11:37 -!- KamiKatze has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:14:40 just thought it would be nice to do it, since a release hasn't actually happened 11:19:18 !tell pleasingfungus unique adjustments look nice, though it would be good to know whether it reduces variance in places removed? though weak uniques don't really add variance, one could say 11:19:18 wheals: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 11:19:44 (sprint cBlink not working is something that I doubt most players would even realize is a bug given that sprint is weird anyway with blocking teleports and such) 11:21:05 !tell pleasingfungus also D:4 pikel / D:8 gastro seem fine to me? you should have enough escape items by then, or you could walk away 11:21:06 wheals: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 11:21:37 and you know that pikel is on the floor before you see him, usually 11:22:37 Is there a quick way to check how many of an item (say Royal Jelly) are likely to appear in a particular branch (or whole game) total? 11:22:56 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:24:39 -!- muravey_ has joined ##crawl-dev 11:25:43 Bcadren: objstat does it but it isn't quick 11:25:57 at one point I was going to set up regular objstat runs but then I didn't 11:27:01 -!- ldf has joined ##crawl-dev 11:30:20 I'm writing a bunch of rough drafts of gods and stuff and one of them would use Royal Jelly at a similar rate to Fedhas with Fruit...so I need a good guess as to if that's actually plausible. 11:31:31 -!- ldf has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:33:54 mrrr. so git status tells me I am on stone_soup-0,16 branch but the build info that the Makefile is retrieving is for 0.17-a 11:35:03 -!- tcsc has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 11:36:00 do I need to specify USE_MERGE_BASE to get this to work right? 11:44:21 -!- SteampunkDuck has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 11:44:31 -!- halberd has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 11:45:16 -!- Voker57 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 11:46:21 -!- ldf has joined ##crawl-dev 11:52:13 -!- Sharkman1231 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:52:16 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 11:53:06 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 11:53:59 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 11:54:14 wheals: not sure what you mean by variance 11:54:23 !killratio pikel * recent d:4 11:54:27 pikel wins 20.89% of battles against * (recent d:4). 11:54:31 !killratio gastronok * recent d:8 11:54:33 i mean, do those ranges have fewer available uniques? 11:54:34 gastronok wins 14.23% of battles against * (recent d:8). 11:54:37 in general, yes 11:54:41 oh 11:54:43 I misread 11:55:07 -!- SurpriseTRex has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:55:28 %git unique_xp 11:55:28 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.17-a0-40-gbbcec33: Adjust D unique depths 10(11 hours ago, 1 file, 32+ 32-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=bbcec33c611a 11:55:40 would need to build a spreadsheet or something 11:55:45 -!- mopl has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:56:00 in general, ranges were narrowed, so I suspect that you'll end up seeing fewer uniques 11:56:13 maybe more in lair, fewer in lair branches 11:56:46 as you said, though, idk how much variety uniques provide when they appear too late to threaten anyone... 11:57:13 i'm not sure how the unique generation works, will this actually change the total # in any game? 11:57:32 decent question to ask mapstat 11:57:44 I'll run it when I get home if I'm not beaten to it 11:58:00 i don't think pikel and gastronok need to be any deeper either, yeah 11:58:19 getting brutalled murdered by early ribbit is also great imo but i guess d:5 is still early enough for that 11:58:24 brutally* 11:58:47 my vague concern was that pikel having a killratio better than sigmund was excessive 11:58:57 pretty easy to get cornered if one of his pals appears behind you in a corridor 11:59:03 I don't feel strongly about it, tho 11:59:05 doesn't total # of uniques in any game change like twice a day anyway? 11:59:13 every time a unique gets added, removed, or depth changed 11:59:20 does it? 11:59:24 that was kind of my question 11:59:51 i really don't know whether adding/removing a unique changes the number you see 12:00:15 uniques are just vaults basically 12:00:54 -!- reaverb has joined ##crawl-dev 12:00:55 add a unique (vault) -> chance of getting a unique changes in its depth range -> and also for uniques with overlapping depth ranges 12:01:18 is what has happened every time I have seen a unique added 12:01:48 / In dpeg's unique placement system, chances is always 1 in A of even 12:01:48 // starting to place a unique; reduced if there are less uniques to be 12:01:48 // placed or available. Then there is a chance of uniques_available / 12:01:48 // B; this only triggers on levels that have less than B uniques to be 12:01:48 // placed. 12:01:52 i thought unique vault placement was a bunch more complicated than regular vault placement (but quite feasibly it boils down to work similarly?) 12:02:21 wheals: except there is a uniq_dummy vault that places no unique 12:03:28 ah, right 12:03:51 so except in Lair and Slime, it ends up working like regular vault placement as far as the effect of adding/removing uniques 12:03:56 or changing their depth 12:04:28 unless you updated uniq_dummy every time, for every depth, which has happened exactly 0 times 12:04:31 unless your removals cause there to be fewer than 5, which i'm not sure is the case with any of these 12:05:07 Stable (0.16) branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.16.0-2-gb487679 12:05:12 that comment is kind of misleading 12:05:29 I didn't mean to imply that it was exactly like regular vault placement, just that it was really similar w.r.t. chance of one appearing compared to others 12:05:45 since "reduced if there are less uniques to placed or available" is just the B check it mentions next 12:06:01 sigh, right, checkout before branch :/ 12:06:26 in modern git, you can just git checkout, you know 12:06:49 so crawl clearly hasn't ever given a flip about total number of uniques, it's not something you need to worry about for stuff like depth adjustment IMO 12:07:27 i didn't bring it up, PleasingFungus just mentioned it in passing 12:07:34 I did? 12:07:37 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:07:43 <|amethyst> has crawl ever cared about the amount of XP given by uniques? 12:07:54 < PleasingFungus > in general, ranges were narrowed, so I suspect that you'll end up seeing fewer uniques 12:08:17 well, that was in response to i mean, do those ranges have fewer available uniques? 12:08:25 has crawl ever cared about the amount of XP given by anything 12:08:34 has crawl ever cared? 12:08:36 i was talking about "variance" 12:08:43 not total amount 12:08:51 related concepts 12:08:55 true 12:09:02 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 12:09:15 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.17-a0-74-gbe451b3 (34) 12:09:23 minmay: well, we nerfed XP in 0.13 12:10:02 the great DO XP reform I hear of? 12:10:10 and i guess PleasingFungus is caring about unique xp very hard 12:10:45 btw I don't think moving uniques like frances earlier is going to accomplish anything good; they're already extremely disproportionately hard to kill compared to other stuff at their depth, I doubt lair frances is going to be worth killing when you find her ever 12:11:18 see: mennas 12:11:20 I don't really get frances 12:11:29 like, as a design 12:11:33 wasn't sure what to do with her 12:11:38 ditto louise (who I ended up not touching) 12:12:49 @??frances 12:12:49 Frances (08@) | Spd: 10 | HD: 14 | HP: 121 | AC/EV: 0/10 | Dam: 29 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, spellcaster, see invisible | Res: 06magic(100) | XP: 2018 | Sp: throw icicle (3d23), sum.demon, haste, iron shot (3d26), sum.demon | Sz: Medium | Int: normal. 12:12:56 @??dire elephant 12:12:56 dire elephant (02Y) | Spd: 10 | HD: 15 | HP: 97-129 | AC/EV: 13/2 | Dam: 4007(trample), 15 | Res: 06magic(100), 12drown | XP: 1243 | Sz: Giant | Int: animal. 12:13:37 yeah that might be excessive in lair. idk 12:13:44 I don't get frances 12:13:52 -!- Lawman0 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:14:06 !time 12:14:06 Time: Mar 13, 2015, 05:14:06 PM, UTC. The 2015 0.16 tournament starts in 2 hours, 45 minutes and 53 seconds. 12:14:08 still support her removal 12:14:14 How old is frances? Because looking for reasons in really old uniques might be an impossible exercise. 12:14:40 Frances has roughly zero similarity to her design from ancient times these days. 12:14:40 Grunt: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 12:14:41 reaverb: frances has been totally changed at least once in the last few years 12:14:53 yes what Grunt said 12:14:57 Ah, then I'll go look up the commit. 12:15:04 %git 94e3e4bd 12:15:04 07MarvinPA02 * 0.12-a0-869-g94e3e4b: Upgrade Frances' spell set 10(2 years, 5 months ago, 2 files, 13+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=94e3e4bdd612 12:15:07 I think this one? 12:15:17 Frances has been adjusted more than that, even 12:15:19 there was one after that 12:15:56 %git 48446ad2b22 12:15:58 07MarvinPA02 * 0.14-a0-2335-g48446ad: Move Frances shallower 10(1 year, 1 month ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=48446ad2b224 12:15:58 -!- WalkerBoh has joined ##crawl-dev 12:16:03 personally I think Frances is okay but that Lair is not a reasonable place for her 12:16:08 not an adjustment of her properly but relevant to current discussion 12:16:19 %git 82bc141d34 12:16:19 07gammafunk02 {Grunt} * 0.14-a0-2426-g82bc141: Give Frances an armour class upgrade. 10(1 year, 1 month ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=82bc141d347b 12:16:51 elliptic: yeah, I'll roll that move back when I get home 12:16:54 Lair is too early for Frances 12:16:57 I was too greedy, and moved uniques from too deep... 12:17:03 hm 12:17:04 @??agnes 12:17:04 Agnes (11i) | Spd: 18 | HD: 11 | HP: 100 | AC/EV: 0/20 | Dam: 30 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, fighter, see invisible | Res: 06magic(100) | XP: 2148 | Sz: little | Int: high. 12:17:11 PleasingFungus dug too deep for uniques 12:17:16 Grunt: exactly!!! 12:17:54 i think V agnes was fine too 12:18:03 not super dangerous but still noticeable 12:18:25 gives Agnes !berserk in Vaults obv 12:18:26 <_< >_> 12:18:27 !killratio agnes * recent vaults 12:18:30 agnes wins 0.165% of battles against * (recent vaults). 12:18:44 !lg * ikiller=agnes vaults recent 12:18:45 4. ProjectEKO the Impaler (L18 DsAK of Lugonu), mangled by Agnes (a +0 vampiric lajatang) on Vaults:2 on 2015-03-04 01:13:01, with 229664 points after 67303 turns and 5:09:03. 12:18:53 !killratio agnes * recent 12:18:56 agnes wins 0.989% of battles against * (recent). 12:19:01 speed 24 melee stone giant 12:19:06 @??agnes perm_ench:berserk 12:19:06 Agnes (11i) | Spd: 27 | HD: 11 | HP: 150 | AC/EV: 0/20 | Dam: 45 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, fighter, see invisible | Res: 06magic(100) | XP: 2148 | Sz: little | Int: high. 12:19:10 27 rather 12:19:11 27!!! 12:19:12 rip 12:19:17 that was in ??27 at some point 12:19:21 ok, overestimate 12:19:33 PleasingFungus: (I haven't had a chance to look carefully at your unique changes yet, but they mostly looked reasonable) 12:20:03 elliptic: ya, I've already got some notes from this discussion on revisions (moving gastronok & pikel back down, frances back out of lair) 12:20:04 maybe the ones that can spawn in some lair branches could be looked at? 12:20:07 seems weird 12:20:10 more than happy to take more 12:20:17 wheals: the ones? 12:20:25 maybe it's just agnes 12:20:29 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 12:20:31 I adjusted quite a lot of lair branch-spawning uniques in that commit 12:20:41 also azrael 12:20:49 i mean, in general, not because of your commit 12:20:51 oh 12:21:01 sorry, when i said "some" i meant "some but not all" 12:21:12 I went through the "spawns in d" section of uniques.des 12:21:28 didn't touch the depths or 'other' section, except for agnes 12:21:35 yes, this isn't your fault...? 12:21:49 I'm very confused 12:21:56 i wasn't talking about your commit 12:21:59 I know that 12:22:01 -!- rossi has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.1.1] 12:22:03 I'm saying that you should have been?? 12:22:20 surely you want to look at more unique locations, no? 12:22:30 I didn't just look at d 12:22:46 I looked at all locations of uniques that spawn in d 12:22:47 if that makes sense 12:23:03 I mean 12:23:36 I want to look at depths & other uniques in a second commit maybe, but it felt less critical 12:23:38 and i was going off on a tangent 12:23:39 sorry 12:23:41 ok 12:24:07 I'm going to apologize because I feel like I've made a terrible mistake somehow 12:24:48 hm 12:24:50 !seen geekosaur 12:24:51 I last saw geekosaur at Fri Mar 13 17:06:01 2015 UTC (18m 50s ago) saying 'sigh, right, checkout before branch :/' on ##crawl-dev. 12:25:10 looks like rupert, agnes, azrael, asterion, norris, saint roka, and wiglaf 12:25:36 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 12:25:51 how many of those show up in shoals/swamp? I think maybe... norris? 12:25:51 hm? 12:26:12 geekosaur: was wondering if you were doing the os x build/signing 12:26:17 I feel perpetually behind when it comes to release stuff 12:26:31 -!- Kolbur1 is now known as Kolbur 12:26:34 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 12:26:37 oh 12:26:57 i guess it's to stop them being in water branches? 12:27:00 feels a bit silly 12:27:00 yes 12:27:03 I did that 12:27:06 about a week ago 12:27:15 and surely azrael can fly? 12:27:17 @??azrael 12:27:18 Azrael (04R) | Spd: 10 | HD: 11 | HP: 88 | AC/EV: 10/5 | Dam: 17 | 05demonic, 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, lev | Res: 06magic(40), 05hellfire, 04fire+++, 03poison, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 12cold, 12drown, 08holy++ | XP: 1263 | Sp: b.fire (3d20) [06!sil], sticky flame range (3d5) [06!sil], fireball (3d20) [06!sil], hellfire (3d20) [06!sil], hellfire (3d20) burst [06!sil, .. 12:27:20 he can't fly over water 12:27:21 iirc 12:27:23 like a fire elemental 12:27:30 I didn't change that, that was before me 12:27:31 f'd up... 12:27:46 I might be making up the fire elemental thing, idk why he'd be barred from water branches otherwise 12:28:00 well, he does have them in his band 12:28:07 ashenzari caused me to identify a mimic before it was in my LoS, when it came into my LoS, it was still a black box...is this intended? 12:28:18 and hell hounds, which can't fly over water 12:28:26 so it'd be like the saint roka thing 12:28:40 clearly, in water branches, he should get a band of fire dragons instead 12:28:53 fire drakes 12:29:18 oh nice, kiwiirc has /ignore 12:29:20 oh righ those exist 12:29:27 @??fire drake 12:29:28 fire drake (04k) | Spd: 12 | HD: 6 | HP: 23-42 | AC/EV: 3/12 | Dam: 8 | fly | Res: 06magic(20), 05fire | XP: 337 | Sp: fire breath (3d12) [11!AM, 06!sil, 08breath] | Sz: Large | Int: animal. 12:29:31 @??hell hound 12:29:31 hell hound (10h) | Spd: 15 | HD: 5 | HP: 19-37 | AC/EV: 6/13 | Dam: 13 | 05demonic, see invisible | Res: 06magic(20), 04fire+++, 03poison, 08blind, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 12cold, 08holy++ | Chunks: 09poison | XP: 146 | Sp: fire breath (3d10) [11!AM, 06!sil, 08breath] | Sz: Medium | Int: animal. 12:29:52 that's... suspiciously feasible 12:29:57 -!- Basil has joined ##crawl-dev 12:30:35 also, why can't norris swim :p 12:30:37 <|amethyst> why can't fire elementals fly over water, anyway? 12:30:42 -!- buki_ is now known as buki 12:30:44 I took a screenshot and I can share that if it's a bug? [wanted to ask if it's consider one] 12:30:47 <|amethyst> I mean, we let humans fly over lava 12:30:50 ??grunt[impossible 12:30:51 grunt[25/27]: ok that's fair, but do consider that grunt is also insane. so as odd as this sounds, this Grunt idea may not be insane! impossible. 12:30:54 wheals: he's not donald!!! 12:31:02 donald is the only duck unique allowed. 12:31:04 clearly. 12:31:06 man i can`t wait its only 2 and one half hours until the tournament starts! 12:31:09 |amethyst: flavor...? 12:31:37 I was gonna make a vault that took advantage of the weird behaviour 12:31:39 might still at some point 12:31:42 PleasingFungus: surfing must be really dangerous if you can't swim 12:31:54 he lost his surfboard, and with it - the source of his powers. 12:32:01 Letting fire elementals fly over water sounds fine to me. 12:32:10 <|amethyst> flavour: http://www.clf.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Cuyahoga-Fire1.jpg 12:32:22 it basically feels like a d&dism 12:32:26 or some other legacy thing 12:32:57 <|amethyst> or maybe they're not actually supposed to be "flying" and that was just a way to let them cross lava? 12:33:05 that river in detroit caught fire once 12:33:08 <|amethyst> in which case we have a habitat we can give them now 12:33:10 maybe more than once 12:33:30 hm 12:33:32 Wouldn't the natural fire cloud spawn create a lot of steam that would screw up LoS though? 12:33:34 I wonder where the relevant code is 12:33:42 but the river wasn`t water so it probably doesn`t count 12:33:45 mon-act.cc 12:33:49 don't go there, it's a bad place 12:33:53 yeah, I thought it was just because it would result in steam everywhere from the clouds 12:34:02 those are efreet 12:34:05 minmay: I was wondering about that 12:34:15 // Fire elementals avoid water and cold. 12:34:22 hm 12:34:28 is that rain clouds? 12:34:28 wheals: fire elementals trail flame clouds too 12:34:34 huh 12:34:36 fiery monsters try to avoid rain clouds, yeah 12:34:41 <|amethyst> Bcadren: when you say "black box" what do you mean? Is that your "detected monster" glyph? 12:34:52 non-swimming/flying monsters also try to avoid rain clouds that are in the same square as shallow water 12:34:52 |amethyst: don't pay him attention 12:35:02 <|amethyst> wheals: ? 12:35:02 |amethyst: ash doesn't even detect mimics anymore... 12:35:03 because the rain could turn the shallow water into deep water, and dronw them 12:35:07 drown* 12:35:42 minmay: I was talking to someone about that in webtiles chat yesterday 12:35:46 It does make sense for fiery monsters to avoid rain clouds since they take damage from them 12:35:52 oh, right, someone was trying to drown trj with fedhas's rain 12:36:01 very useful for making orbs of fire go away 12:36:02 (whether they *should* take damage from them is debatable) 12:36:56 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 12:37:06 wheals: actually orbs of fire will move through rain clouds 12:37:20 because they're mindless or have enough hp or something 12:37:51 hp, I think 12:37:54 iirc they're intelligent? 12:37:56 @??orb of fire 12:37:57 orb of fire (05*) | Spd: 15 | HD: 30 | HP: 150 | AC/EV: 20/20 | 11non-living, see invisible, lev | Res: 13magic(immune), 04fire+++, 02cold, 11elec+++, 09poison+++, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm, 04napalm | Vul: 11silver | XP: 8519 | Sp: b.fire (3d40) [06!sil], fireball (3d43) [06!sil], malmutate [06!sil] | Sz: little | Int: normal. 12:38:08 orbs of fire are so weird. 12:38:15 as smart as a human 12:38:43 |amethyst tiles. it's like I never saw it. one second. 12:38:52 <|amethyst> Bcadren: and what version? 12:39:08 |amethyst it's unseen ground. black box. 12:39:12 0.15 stable. 12:39:39 stop posting .15 issues here you moron 12:39:40 <|amethyst> no need to file a bug report then, it's fixed in trunk 12:40:09 !cmd !thanks 12:40:09 No command !thanks 12:40:11 !cmd !thank 12:40:11 No command !thank 12:40:14 i thought i made the most worthless posts here 12:40:34 Shouldn't there be no issues with a 'stable' though? o_o; It's a minor one, but... 12:40:42 twelwe: i was trying to find a way to thank you for all your worthless posts 12:40:44 <|amethyst> er, no 12:40:45 -!- Celesta_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:40:47 now that i can't on tavern 12:41:02 <|amethyst> we don't go back and fix bugs in all past versions 12:41:14 <|amethyst> maybe if 0.16 weren't about to release we'd fix an 0.15 bugs 12:41:17 <|amethyst> s/bugs/bug/ 12:41:19 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 12:41:42 <|amethyst> but "stable" does not mean "bug free" 12:41:47 <|amethyst> it means "we're not changing it much" 12:41:50 you guys should take out sickness from brown chunks 12:41:56 its fucking annoying 12:42:39 <|amethyst> Now every brown chunk in the game gives you full nutrition and 100 hp of healing 12:42:52 <|amethyst> vacuously 12:42:55 -!- Cerpin has joined ##crawl-dev 12:43:11 In normal development it means no new features only bug fixes from here out. Heh. 12:43:28 that's what it means in crawl too 12:43:38 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVrqkH2Zdj8 12:43:39 <|amethyst> yes, but we don't fix every bug in old versions 12:44:15 <|amethyst> particularly since the fix, removing mimics, was a pretty significant change 12:44:48 PleasingFungus: where did that comment come from 12:45:12 -!- shmup has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:45:23 ...you removed mimics? ...*blinks a lot* 12:45:37 <|amethyst> as a monster, yes 12:45:43 <|amethyst> so there's nothing for ash to detect 12:45:59 <|amethyst> now they're just items that disappear when you get close 12:46:19 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 12:46:59 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 12:47:05 wheals: I'm doing code archaeology 12:47:46 there appears to have been a hack to make (fiery?) monsters move more slowly through (shallow?) water by making them treat it as impassable water one time in 5 12:48:01 it hopefully was removed at some point; I haven't looked into it too deeply 12:48:30 also, just got to the bottom: the fire elemental / water thing predates stone soup 12:48:55 and the comment about avoiding "water or cold" made more sense when the same "if" also checked for cloud types 12:49:11 hm, funny 12:49:21 to pick up chunks you need to have a free inventory slot 12:49:34 despite chunks ~actually~ being one single item and you already having some in your inventory 12:49:45 <|amethyst> ? 12:50:00 oh, he means chunks that would stack? 12:50:01 -!- KamiKatze has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:50:02 Bloax: that is not the case, you don't need an empty slot if it will stack with something in your inventory 12:50:13 !lm Bloax 12:50:14 7290. [2015-03-11 22:52:58] Bloax the Brawler (L17 MiWz of Cheibriados) entered a Bazaar on turn 23523. (Shoals:5) 12:50:20 I'm just watching 4tharraofdagon here. 12:50:25 !lm 4tharraofdagon 12:50:26 27412. [2015-03-13 17:41:52] 4thArraOfDagon the Grappler (L11 GhWr of Cheibriados) killed Maurice on turn 6047. (D:10) 12:50:36 maybe there's a thing with poisonous ones? 12:50:43 which for ghouls stack in inv 12:50:49 gh stack more chunk types than usual, so, yeah, could be a gh issue 12:50:52 let me look... 12:51:05 <|amethyst> doesn't seem to happen for me 12:51:27 !source items_similar 12:51:28 1/1. http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/items.cc;hb=HEAD#l1402 12:51:35 !lm 4tharraofdagon x=cv 12:51:36 27413. [2015-03-13 17:51:02] [cv=0.17-a] 4thArraOfDagon the Grappler (L12 GhWr of Cheibriados) reached level 15 of the Dungeon on turn 7369. (D:15) 12:52:39 <|amethyst> !lm 4tharraofdagon x=src 12:52:39 27413. [2015-03-13 17:51:02] [src=cxc] 4thArraOfDagon the Grappler (L12 GhWr of Cheibriados) reached level 15 of the Dungeon on turn 7369. (D:15) 12:52:40 well that's very funny 12:52:48 it also works for me offline 12:53:18 I assume you guys are checking with different chunk types 12:53:22 yeah 12:53:31 rat chunks stack with moccasin chunks that stack with ugly thing chunks 12:53:36 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 12:53:42 even while at 52/52 inventory slots 12:53:50 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 12:53:57 yet i just watched the game bitch at him despite having 4 chunks in his inventory 12:54:07 does he have autoinscriptions 12:54:15 &rc 4tharraofdagon 12:54:16 http://crawl.xtahua.com/crawl/rcfiles/crawl-git/4thArraOfDagon.rc 12:54:35 apparently not 12:54:40 <|amethyst> how can you tell how many chunks are in his inventory? 12:54:56 |amethyst: because he pressed "e" after it failed 12:54:57 <|amethyst> !log 4tharraofdagon 12:54:57 8521. 4thArraOfDagon, XL11 TrAM, T:7635: http://crawl.xtahua.com/crawl/morgue/4thArraOfDagon/morgue-4thArraOfDagon-20150313-170416.txt 12:55:08 Bloax: and e wasn't just seeing the floor items? 12:55:27 <|amethyst> &dump 4tharraofdagon 12:55:28 http://CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM/crawl/morgue/4thArraOfDagon/4thArraOfDagon.txt 12:55:41 no, since after he dropped something and picked the chunks up he suddenly had 7 chunks 12:55:57 maybe there were multiple distinct stacks of chunks on the ground 12:56:06 <|amethyst> !ttyrec 4thArraOfDagon 12:56:07 8521. 4thArraOfDagon, XL11 TrAM, T:7635: http://crawl.xtahua.com/crawl/ttyrec/4thArraOfDagon/2015-03-13.16:07:02.ttyrec 12:56:19 !lm 4thArraOfDagon -ttyrec 12:56:20 27414. 4thArraOfDagon, XL12 GhWr, T:8107 (milestone): http://crawl.xtahua.com/crawl/ttyrec/4thArraOfDagon/2015-03-13.17:06:14.ttyrec 12:56:27 "to pick up chunks you need to have a free inventory slot" is definitely not true in general 12:56:57 from what was said I think the following is most likely: 12:57:13 -!- indspenceable has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:57:20 (a) 4thArra butchered multiple corpses on the same square with no slots in inventory 12:57:29 (b) pickup failed because no slots 12:57:46 (c) he pressed 'e' and was asked to eat from a stack of 4 chunks 12:57:51 -!- Goratrix has quit [Client Quit] 12:58:10 (d) there were actually 4 chunks and 3 chunks on the floor 12:58:16 (d) he dropped something and picked up multiple chunk piles at once, totalling 7 chunks 12:58:42 <|amethyst> Bloax: where did you see this (which dungeon level)? 12:59:13 |amethyst: likely around d:9-12 12:59:39 it's definitely after he met a manticore and a centaur with arrows of dispersal 13:00:49 this is reminding me of the time ##crawl-dev spent a literal hour analyzing the !tv of a player who thought they'd gotten the abyssal rune twice 13:00:52 that was great 13:01:38 well it's nothing worth breaking too much sweat over, since it works in all cases except the one sneaky mysterious case that might not even exist 13:03:13 well, those "4 hours" didn't work out 13:03:13 Napkin: You have 33 messages. Use !messages to read them. 13:03:31 I remember once I couldn't get some git hooks to work and it turned out I was in the wrong directory after around an hour of troubleshooting. 13:04:00 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 13:04:02 * geekosaur is now quite confused... and apparently short on knowledge of how to build a proper release 13:04:14 once napkin gets to 99 messages pending, sequell will collapse. 13:05:24 stupid android 5.0 out of the blue changes the way it speaks SSL/TLS - and the director shows up at your door step, because he can't mail.. yay! 13:05:37 -!- reaverb has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 13:06:54 -!- tingol3 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:07:20 on a friday after lunch... pff 13:08:00 -!- puddlestomp has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:10:28 -!- indspenceable has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:11:33 -!- tingol3 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 13:12:47 -!- alefury has joined ##crawl-dev 13:13:10 -!- link_108 has joined ##crawl-dev 13:13:47 !tell TZer0 The (edit rc) button for 0.16 does not work, hm.. 13:13:47 Pleasing: eronarn had over 100 13:13:47 Bloax: OK, I'll let tzer0 know. 13:14:05 -!- link_1081 has joined ##crawl-dev 13:14:10 <|amethyst> Napkin: is this an exchange server? 13:14:27 no 13:14:40 minmay: something to aspire to... 13:14:49 -!- link_1082 has joined ##crawl-dev 13:15:48 sun/oracle mail system from 2009 - doesn't understand tls 1.2 yet -> protocol error 13:16:08 -!- link_1083 has joined ##crawl-dev 13:16:21 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 13:16:41 -!- link_1084 has joined ##crawl-dev 13:17:10 <|amethyst> Napkin: oh, as in doesn't even understand it well enough to negotiate down to v1? 13:17:28 -!- link_108 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:17:31 oracle... 13:17:33 -!- link_1085 has joined ##crawl-dev 13:17:34 -!- oblong has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:17:40 no, android 13:17:42 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 13:17:55 gammafunk: so you know and don't go and ask him too, I managed to talk to hong in tileschat and he put up the CWZ logfile/milestones 13:17:59 -!- link_108 has joined ##crawl-dev 13:18:19 elliptic: oh, great. Glad we found a way to reach him :) 13:18:34 -!- link_1081 has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 13:18:41 -!- link_1086 has joined ##crawl-dev 13:18:51 geekosaur: Have you made the OS X binaries, by chance? 13:19:12 -!- link_1081 has joined ##crawl-dev 13:19:24 -!- link_1082 has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 13:19:27 0.16 rcfile stuff there still isn't working, but I told him about that and then let him get back to his crawl game in peace :P 13:19:43 -!- link_1082 has joined ##crawl-dev 13:19:51 instead of negotiating it sends tlsv1.2 extended command, |amethyst 13:19:54 gammafunk: "geekosaur is now quite confused... and apparently short on knowledge of how to build a proper release" 13:20:06 -!- orneryostrich has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:20:14 -!- link_1087 has joined ##crawl-dev 13:20:27 I have binaries that claim to be from git, as opposed to a release; there is presumably magic needed to make them identify as a release version? 13:20:28 confused about building on OS X but it's the height of simplicity and excellent user experience?!?! 13:20:36 -!- link_1083 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:20:46 <|amethyst> geekosaur: what version do they claim to be? 13:20:49 -!- link_1083 has joined ##crawl-dev 13:20:54 also even the signed crawl tiles bundle gets -10810 which is a useless error number that basically means "something somewhere went wrong" 13:21:07 -!- link_1084 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:21:13 hm 13:21:15 -!- link_1084 has joined ##crawl-dev 13:21:24 hrm,well didn't chequers' binaries work ok when he and PleasingFungus tested them? 13:21:29 chequers said he was going to put up an (unsigned) binary somewhere, but it might also have those issues 13:21:30 0.16.0-2-gb487679 13:21:32 I didn't test his binaries 13:21:35 maybe chequers is doing something in particular 13:21:41 ah that was bh's 13:21:51 -!- link_1088 has joined ##crawl-dev 13:21:53 -!- link_1085 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 13:21:55 <|amethyst> geekosaur: where does it say git? in the app directory name? 13:22:06 geekosaur: isn't that right? 13:22:13 although I note build.h does claim VER_FINAL 13:22:14 -!- link_1085 has joined ##crawl-dev 13:22:18 but it shows in the titlebar for example 13:22:19 Napkin: Do you have everything you need in terms of windows zips/installers to update the download page? 13:22:22 -!- link_108 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:22:24 ah, i see what you mean 13:22:31 <|amethyst> that's because we're not going to have builds of 0.16.0 13:22:39 -!- link_108 has joined ##crawl-dev 13:22:40 I would expect it to identify as 0.16.0-2 13:22:45 Napkin: I think I've sent you a bunch of messages at this point, but 0.16 is in the debian repo and is tested/working 13:22:46 or whatever 13:22:57 -!- link_1086 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:23:08 -!- link_1086 has joined ##crawl-dev 13:23:20 <|amethyst> 0.16.0-2 is kind of ambiguous 13:23:20 -!- link_1081 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:23:39 -!- link_1081 has joined ##crawl-dev 13:23:41 <|amethyst> since it could mean some branch that is two commits later than 0.16.0, not necessarily stone_soup-0.16 13:24:04 <|amethyst> perhaps we should tag 0.16.1 ? 13:24:18 after that sprint bug, I thought about that 13:24:27 -!- link_1087 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:24:28 -!- link_1082 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 13:24:28 -!- link_1089 has joined ##crawl-dev 13:24:29 there were subsequent commits as well, no? 13:24:30 so it's normal for the git id to show up in the titlebar for a release version? 13:24:32 "we decided to skip 0.16" 13:24:34 %git stone_soup-0.16 13:24:34 07elliptic02 * 0.16.0-2-gb487679: Fix throwing a wielded item taking much less time. 10(4 hours ago, 3 files, 12+ 6-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=b48767947500 13:24:43 <|amethyst> geekosaur: you're not building a release version 13:24:46 -!- link_1082 has joined ##crawl-dev 13:24:47 oh, that's the -2 I bet 13:24:50 right, that is what I asked about 13:24:50 <|amethyst> geekosaur: you're building two commits ahead of the release 13:25:14 geekosaur: the tag is 0.16.0 13:25:18 for the release version 13:25:20 oh, so this is expected because it's not the exact "tagged for release" version and yoy haven't sorted that yet 13:25:23 -!- link_1083 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:25:33 geekosaur: well it's sorted, I made that tag 13:25:33 -!- link_1083 has joined ##crawl-dev 13:25:35 still have the damned -10810 error 13:25:43 <|amethyst> right, because people insisted on making new commits after we tagged 13:25:46 there are just subsequent commits that would putatively be 0.16.1 13:26:00 <|amethyst> either we shouldn't have tagged yet, or we shouldn't have added commits between the tag and release 13:26:09 -!- link_1087 has joined ##crawl-dev 13:26:10 yeah sorry I didn't tell people that 13:26:12 yes but there was discussion when I looked in here that those commits should be in the release 13:26:13 -!- link_1084 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:26:24 oh, I wasn't a part of that 13:26:32 -!- link_1084 has joined ##crawl-dev 13:26:33 -!- link_1088 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 13:26:35 specifically the sprint bug 13:26:39 what happened was, I did the tag, then some time later I reported that bug, PF fixed it 13:26:58 -!- link_1085 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 13:26:58 so I guess my fault for not telling him to leave that trunk only or something 13:27:00 -!- link_108 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:27:02 -!- link_1088 has joined ##crawl-dev 13:27:03 it would be funny if we never released 16.0 13:27:13 sorry, i assumed anything that was a descendant of a release tag would be counted as a release build 13:27:19 -!- link_1086 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:27:22 -!- link_108 has joined ##crawl-dev 13:27:31 who is doing the release this time? 13:27:43 Napkin: sort of me, but all of us are? 13:27:48 <|amethyst> no one knows 13:27:52 -!- link_1085 has joined ##crawl-dev 13:27:54 gammafunk: you need me to update the wordpress page you mean? 13:27:59 -!- link_1081 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:28:02 <|amethyst> I thought we had released 13:28:06 <|amethyst> but apparently not? 13:28:12 <|amethyst> because we didn't have binaries 13:28:15 not formally, yet 13:28:16 -!- link_1081 has joined ##crawl-dev 13:28:24 <|amethyst> then why did we make a 0.16.0 tag? 13:28:41 -!- link_1089 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:28:47 -!- link_1086 has joined ##crawl-dev 13:28:57 |amethyst: we made a tag because we had enough binaries available 13:29:03 -!- link_1082 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:29:06 <|amethyst> ? 13:29:12 specifically we had windows, debian 13:29:19 -!- link_1082 has joined ##crawl-dev 13:29:21 someone get rid of this link_nnn please? 13:29:21 OS X was never going to just magically fix itself 13:29:29 -!- indspenc_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:29:47 -!- link_1083 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:29:57 <|amethyst> I don't see why we don't just drop OS X support 13:30:04 -!- link_1083 has joined ##crawl-dev 13:30:09 <|amethyst> I mean if it's this much trouble and is going to fuck up every release 13:30:22 So I'm not sure what (if any) umbrage there is at this point, but we had two major platforms ready, just needed someone to update the downloads 13:30:25 <|amethyst> and is going to cost geekosaur or somebody $100 or $150 or whatever a year 13:30:35 I uploaded the repo and the windows installer, zips 13:30:35 -!- Lawman0 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:30:43 -!- link_1087 has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 13:30:53 -!- link_1084 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:31:15 -!- link_1088 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:31:20 |amethyst: this is the first release we've made since the sdl2 change, and there are still a lot of avenues that we've never pursued for getting release out more smoothly 13:31:29 e.g. asking on reddit 13:31:37 -!- link_108 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:31:43 there is no release yet, since there is no news post about it ;) so let's gather binaries 13:31:46 er, avenues we haven't tried since the change :) 13:32:00 What I propose is we just do a 0.16.0 release for windows, linux. Then fairly soon, when we have os x sorted, we tag and release 0.16.1 13:32:09 gammafunk: where did you upload them to? 13:32:10 !time 13:32:10 <|amethyst> is there an android build? 13:32:11 Time: Mar 13, 2015, 06:32:11 PM, UTC. The 2015 0.16 tournament starts in 1 hour, 27 minutes and 48 seconds. 13:32:15 Napkin: ~crawl/upload 13:32:21 -!- link_1085 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:32:29 Napkin: the apt repo is already there with 0.16 13:32:39 great 13:32:40 so it's just the windows installer andzips and the source packages 13:32:43 -!- link_1081 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:32:46 -!- |amethyst has quit [Quit: leaving] 13:32:46 gammafunk: that sounds like a good idea 13:33:05 |amethyst: no there's no android build, but that was Grunt's project, not sure where it is 13:33:05 -!- link_1086 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:33:16 it'll come in time 13:33:17 oh 13:33:22 I should do that I guess 13:33:43 don't remember ever having all binaries (and the amount of platforms grew) on day 1 of a release ;) 13:33:46 oh, Grunt is alive! 13:33:49 -!- link_1082 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:33:58 wheals: that could be deathgrunt 13:34:33 -!- link_1083 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:34:36 I guess |amethyst isn't very happy with how our release went 13:34:39 -!- indspenceable has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:34:59 that's great, next time he will plan it ;) 13:35:02 i can't believe simmarine fouled it up this badly 13:35:03 Can't say I blame him much, but I was just trying to get things rolling the best I/we could 13:35:05 hi 13:35:12 ok, rebuilding at 0.16.0 13:35:18 -!- Bloax has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:35:28 Napkin: ETA on 0.16 on cdo? 13:35:39 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 13:35:46 the server that is, not the blog :) 13:35:58 after i bring the kid to bed 13:36:14 ah 13:36:23 maybe our real problem is too many timezones :P 13:36:40 We all move to the antarctic 13:36:58 To focus on crawl 13:37:01 anyone time to update the wordpress downloads page? 13:37:23 Napkin: yeah I can, I think, just an html file to edit? 13:37:33 wordpress html-like, yes 13:37:34 -!- Celesta_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:37:37 https://crawl.develz.org/release/ 13:37:52 -!- Sharkman1231 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:37:59 i move your uploaded files to ~/website/release/, gammafunk 13:38:03 fyi 13:38:10 ok,ty 13:38:21 If I can just edit and upload an html or html-like file, I can make the updates 13:38:22 as user crawl, btw 13:38:36 gammafunk: you can log into wordpress and edit there I think? 13:38:37 no, you need wordpress login 13:38:42 unless you don't have a login 13:38:45 ah, I don't have that probably 13:38:49 anyone with wordpress login has time? 13:38:57 I can edit the page 13:38:57 or would you like an account, gammafunk? 13:39:10 Napkin: you can give me an account, but elliptic can feel free to just edit it 13:39:14 assuming that I can just do s/15.2/16.0/ 13:39:28 hrm, maybe I can edit ti to blurb about what we're missing 13:39:28 files are here, elliptic: https://crawl.develz.org/release/ 13:39:30 error: no matching function for call to '_start_butchering' 13:39:36 * Grunt grumbles extremely loudly 13:39:41 Grunt: rip 13:39:55 dang 13:40:03 and %git :/droid 13:40:05 er 13:40:07 %git :/droid 13:40:07 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.16-a0-4096-g9c7c275: Remove _make_appendable_file (|amethyst) 10(3 weeks ago, 1 file, 6+ 17-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=9c7c27577490 13:40:18 hahaha 13:40:19 %git :/sumably fix 13:40:21 07Matthew_Cline02 * 0.5-a0-1298-gaecf0e0: _do_description() now only appends stats/info/spells/etc when looking up spells and items. Fixes a bug where the branch Dis was listed as being a level 4 Conjuraion/Air spell found in several spellbooks, and presumably fixes other bugs of the same type (if any exist). 10(6 years ago, 1 file, 7+ 5-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=aecf0e083feb 13:40:32 %git :/fix [Aa]ndr 13:40:34 Could not find commit :/fix [Aa]ndr (git returned 128) 13:40:34 nah, gammafunk - just leave the old link in the downloads page in place - later mention in the post, that build for XYZ is still being done 13:40:37 huh 13:40:49 -!- reaverb has joined ##crawl-dev 13:41:12 %git :/[Aa]ndroi 13:41:12 07wheals02 * 0.16-a0-4000-gfe6324d: Presumably unbreak Android compilation. 10(4 weeks ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=fe6324dfc6af 13:41:15 ? 13:41:18 yeah, that 13:41:27 apparently i should have unbroken it harder 13:41:40 note: candidate function not viable: 1st argument ('const item_def') would lose const qualifier 13:42:16 -!- mumra has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 13:42:35 -!- indspenceable has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:42:49 I can get it to go away in the short term with an extremely ugly const_cast 13:44:12 seems that shouldn't break anything too badly 13:44:30 sorry :( 13:44:50 -!- ParticlePhysics has quit [Client Quit] 13:47:13 arghlebargle 13:47:16 dngn.png is 0 size 13:47:18 why 13:47:39 !lg * ikiller=arghlebargle 13:47:39 No games for * (ikiller=arghlebargle). 13:47:53 huh, I know I've seen that Pan lord somewhere 13:47:53 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 13:48:32 gammafunk: I'm currently editing the downloads page with stuff btw 13:48:32 I notice that all of the current links are to sourceforge, so is it okay to replace those by links to crawl.develz.org/release? 13:48:58 elliptic: I think so, yes, but I'm not sure why we used sourceforge 13:49:17 elliptic: also aren't some of the binary links to cdo? 13:49:27 I think it's only the source urls that are SF 13:49:32 Grunt: any thoughts on sourceforge over cdo for our stuff? 13:49:36 13:49:37 oh, just the urls 13:50:06 -!- indspenceable has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:50:20 I guess we should still update SF since we do have a project page with a Files section 13:50:22 oh 13:50:26 maybe dngn.png is supposed to be 0 size 13:50:29 v0v 13:50:45 that seems odd..... 13:51:01 dc-dngn.txt specifices floor, wall, and feat 13:51:04 each of which is their own file 13:51:10 ohhhh 13:51:27 that doesn't happen on non-android, does it? 13:51:46 %git 2d46f5c 13:51:46 07Enne02 * 0.7.0-a0-2055-g2d46f5c: Split dngn tile page into feat/floor/wall. 10(4 years, 9 months ago, 15 files, 1671+ 1607-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=2d46f5c2e46e 13:52:39 oh god 13:52:51 nobody updated the list of files that android needs to build, did they 13:53:09 :) 13:54:01 Grunt: I think you're still the only person who can build android 13:54:34 Can and/or does I guess. I was meaning to get an android test thing working but 13:54:48 good I think there's only one missing file 13:55:02 no android don't rebuild everything 13:55:03 okay I updated http://crawl.develz.org/wordpress/downloads 13:55:17 missing various things of course 13:55:38 %git 78efcc4 13:55:38 07greensnark02 * 0.16-a0-4006-g78efcc4: Add -list-combos to list species, jobs & combos. 10(4 weeks ago, 5 files, 130+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=78efcc412934 13:56:11 elliptic: looks good, thanks 13:56:18 let me know if there are any more changes to be made that require a wordpress account 13:57:29 PleasingFungus: well if you want to make a release announcement, we have some of the binaries online 13:57:36 OS X is a WIP I guess 13:57:39 !time 13:57:40 Time: Mar 13, 2015, 06:57:39 PM, UTC. The 2015 0.16 tournament starts in 1 hour, 2 minutes and 20 seconds. 13:57:43 ok 13:57:48 I'm starving so I'm going to have lunch 13:57:54 but I will make a post before the tournament 13:57:57 You're too hungry. 13:58:07 You need to eat something NOW! 13:58:12 ^ this guy knows what's up... 13:59:39 Fungus needs food, now! 13:59:48 -!- indspenceable has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:59:50 I need to update our INSTALL.txt, because the win-builds stuff is wrong (just as I had prophesied it would become) 14:00:15 oh, because of their release? 14:00:19 -!- indspenc_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:00:44 don't forget the cygwin section--eventually 14:00:48 or what's wrong? 14:03:22 -!- Menche has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:03:45 wheals: their documentation changed a lot 14:03:53 so what I refer to in that doesn't make much sense 14:04:08 oh wow, whole new website 14:04:24 what kind of crazy project changes their front page at the same time as a release???? 14:04:46 oh, actually that url in the install.txt does still have the same content, at least 14:04:51 so maybe it's fine 14:05:29 until they take it down, since I don't see it linked to on their main site 14:05:44 heh http://win-builds.org/bugs/index.php?do=details&task_id=100 14:06:22 too bad os x and android still exist 14:08:30 looks like they don't have plans for including a newer perl, though 14:08:48 does that matter? 14:09:12 well, util/unbrace doesn't work on msysgit (uses named captures) 14:09:16 right 14:09:38 well you could install perl on your own, I think 14:09:44 i guess 14:09:46 I'm sure perl for windows would work fine in msys 14:09:47 if i weren't LAZY 14:09:48 -!- MgDark has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:09:52 -!- MgDark_ is now known as MgDark 14:10:10 wheals only knows the pointing and the clicking 14:10:23 maybe some double-clicking 14:10:34 ironically, the latest release with the gui doesn't work for me (because of XP i guess) 14:10:55 okay 14:10:57 let's see if this apk works 14:10:58 wait, you system is windows xp? 14:11:43 yep 14:11:47 writing announcement now 14:12:07 geeze, do we have any not-os-x-or-windows developers at this point?! 14:12:14 at some point, someone should probably add cwz to http://crawl.develz.org/wordpress/howto . possibly that person is me 14:12:36 PleasingFungus: yeah, miraculously cwz is all set up for tournament, so that'd be nice 14:12:39 be the change you want to see in the website, PleasingFungus 14:13:14 I can only write one post at a time! 14:13:30 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 14:13:39 gammafunk: wait, we have osX and windows developers?? 14:13:43 also, when's chequers's website going up? 14:13:53 -!- olourkin has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:13:53 s/site/page 14:14:04 elliptic: it's even worse than tiles vs console I'm araid 14:14:16 i thought all of our OS X devs retired 14:14:20 ;) 14:14:36 even with our robust OS X support?! 14:14:47 reaverb, Zaba, the snark even i think 14:14:56 is using windows XP in the year 2015 a safe thing 14:15:04 yay! it starts running! 14:15:08 let's see if I can launch a game 14:15:18 n1k: what can i say, i'm a windows hipster 14:15:29 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:15:34 wheals: I mean, there are no security updates at this point, right? 14:15:37 wheals: that's a cool thing to be 14:15:42 Or are those *still* happening 14:15:46 gammafunk: no they aren't 14:15:47 i doubt there are 14:15:49 no, no security updates to xp 14:16:10 this computer is from the vista era though, i'm not particularly attached to it 14:16:13 wheals is a walking time bomb! 14:16:26 it has been irresponsible to run computers with xp attached to public networks for a while though 14:17:14 we need to stage an OS intervention for wheals 14:17:27 who updates @crawlcode? PleasingFungus ? 14:17:29 perform a ritual install of a modern OS 14:17:33 i can stop any time i want! i swear...! 14:17:47 johnstein: yep 14:18:10 -!- raskol has quit [Quit: quit] 14:18:15 wheals, for hipster cred I recommend Plan 9 14:18:22 or QNX :P 14:18:33 someone in my other room wanted to know whom to send their compliments to 14:18:36 heh 14:18:43 :) 14:20:45 wheals: I'm going to try to come back for 0.17. Won't be using a mac though >_> 14:21:12 yesssss 14:21:13 it 14:21:14 works 14:21:16 * geekosaur has discovered why tiles doesn't work 14:21:19 good enough for me 14:21:22 I never do tiles builds anyway 14:21:31 OS X is passing a session parameter which makes crawl die with a usage message 14:21:42 installs the Grunt virus, beware, android users! 14:21:46 Unknown option: -psn_0_569483 14:21:54 oh, huh 14:22:17 oh 14:22:28 geekosaur: is there some app description file 14:22:35 that tells os x how to launch the binary 14:22:35 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 14:22:45 not to that level of detail, no 14:22:45 and that's got some setting for "pass session parameter" 14:23:30 -!- SomeStupidGuy has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:24:04 well there's a plist file 14:24:35 crawl_tiles_android-0.16.0.apk is in ~/website/release 14:24:51 (or just make crawl ignore arguments beginning with -psn) 14:25:18 download link updated for android 14:25:28 ok, thanks 14:25:30 -!- Foamed has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:25:55 Grunt: er, 404 14:25:58 fixed 14:25:59 on the download link 14:26:07 I noticed that just after I typed out that I'd updated it 14:26:10 -- Press RETURN to compile crawl-0.16-b487679 -- 14:26:19 there's a plist file. it does not provide a way to prevent the psn from being passed 14:26:34 this is not linux, as much as you would like it to be 14:26:51 chequers: are you around? 14:26:56 maybe if you want linux you should just use linux 14:26:58 ...ok well I'm just throwing out ideas for why it's doing that, geekosaur 14:27:30 !time 14:27:31 Time: Mar 13, 2015, 07:27:31 PM, UTC. The 2015 0.16 tournament starts in 32 minutes and 28 seconds. 14:28:57 -!- Utis has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:30:35 gw.expect is ready 14:31:10 !won gw 14:31:11 gw has not won in 2369 games. 14:31:13 Stable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.16.0-2-gb487679 (34) 14:31:22 Grunt: how do you define "ready"? 14:31:32 wheals: ^ 14:31:36 I have the script to start gw ready 14:31:40 gw probably isn't ready :) 14:31:52 Oh ok :) 14:33:24 03Grunt02 07* 0.17-a0-75-ge2c4c55: Ugly Android build fixes. 10(2 minutes ago, 3 files, 3+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=e2c4c55bd7ca 14:33:25 03Grunt02 07[stone_soup-0.16] * 0.16.0-3-ge43e579: Ugly Android build fixes. 10(2 minutes ago, 3 files, 3+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=e43e579ff45c 14:34:07 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 14:34:33 greensnark: btw, 0.16 milestone/logfile is now up in the usual location for every server except CDO (and it sounds like Napkin will have it up soon for CDO?) and it would be nice to have them in sequell :) 14:34:44 http://crawl.develz.org/wordpress/crawl-0-16-the-great-annihilating-truth someone look over this, please 14:35:42 Five new spells have been added, including Singularity, a level 9 Translocations spell that sucks 14:36:03 1learn add singularity 14:36:30 elliptic: just let minmay write the changelog 14:36:30 singularity and its little brother, gravitas? 14:36:33 PleasingFungus: can you fix gitorious loading so slowly tia 14:36:58 but it looks good, the announcement 14:37:02 aside from that possibly unfortunate choice of phrase it looks good 14:37:03 should I include my patches (LTO support and -psn_ ignoring?) 14:37:22 that's not unfortunate 14:37:30 I'm sure it was completely intentional 14:37:36 elliptic: my understanding is that it either sucks, is overpowered, or possibly both 14:37:37 (note that the LTO support patch is an unabashed hack and should probably not be in mainline until it's redone correctly) 14:37:41 it's weird thinking of how much has changed since 0.15 14:37:45 geekosaur: if you have said patch, make it available and we'll apply it 14:37:55 geekosaur: but I guess you need to include it, yeah 14:37:56 as it's happening you don't notice 14:38:02 yeah, I hadn't remembered that e.g. double/triple swords or megazigs were 0.16 14:38:15 oh, did zot defense not get removed for 0.16 in the end? 14:38:21 logfiles in please, elliptic 14:38:22 ugh 14:38:26 just find a typo no one mentioned 14:38:29 CanOfWorms: it was removed 14:38:42 basically our Makefile "knows" that clang uses -O4 to enable LTO, but that hasn't been true since at least clang 3.3; it's -O3 -flto like with gcc 14:38:46 CDO is done, me think, gammafunk 14:38:55 Each ziggurat successfully ‘cleared’ (by existing from the 27th floor) 14:38:57 when does the tourney start? 14:38:59 Napkin: it looks like the DGL menu needs updating to let players start games? 14:38:59 Napkin: thanks! 14:39:00 !time 14:39:01 !time 14:39:01 Time: Mar 13, 2015, 07:39:01 PM, UTC. The 2015 0.16 tournament starts in 20 minutes and 58 seconds. 14:39:01 Time: Mar 13, 2015, 07:39:01 PM, UTC. The 2015 0.16 tournament starts in 20 minutes and 58 seconds. 14:39:05 tick 14:39:06 tock 14:39:06 I was faster 14:39:06 !send gammafunk more time 14:39:07 Sending more time to gammafunk. 14:39:08 should be already, elliptic - relogin 14:39:16 !seen thetower 14:39:16 gammafunk: I show up first on my screen :) 14:39:16 I last saw theTower at Tue Mar 10 21:26:31 2015 UTC (2d 22h 12m 45s ago) parting ##crawl-dev, saying 'chanpart'. 14:39:18 water & land, preventing player (s) from getting stranded 14:39:19 !tell thetower tick 14:39:20 simmarine: OK, I'll let thetower know. 14:39:26 !tell simmarine tock 14:39:26 Grunt: OK, I'll let simmarine know. 14:39:29 ah, main forgotten, 1s 14:39:30 !messages 14:39:30 Napkin: I did, I'm just seeing 0.15, Trunk, etc 14:39:31 (1/1) Grunt said (4s ago): tock 14:39:35 but that was an inferior, OS X screen so doesn't count 14:39:37 CanOfWorms: ah, good catch 14:39:46 gammafunk: what if it was GNU screen??? 14:39:50 dang 14:40:03 GNU/OS X 14:40:19 fixed, elliptic 14:40:35 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:40:36 main menu was wrong, subs were in place already 14:41:23 Napkin: looks good, thanks! 14:41:38 haha, our "more screenshots" section on downloads is kind of amusing 14:41:47 because they're so zoomed in 14:41:50 oh 14:42:00 someone needs to push the thing that nags trunk players to play tournament 14:42:02 !lm * 0.16 s=src 14:42:03 10105 milestones for * (0.16): 4898x cao, 3948x cszo, 717x cbro, 327x cpo, 194x clan, 21x cwz 14:42:06 PleasingFungus: right, that 14:42:19 oh yeah 14:42:52 !lm * 0.16.0-b1 s=src 14:42:53 28767 milestones for * (0.16.0-b1): 12779x cao, 11404x cszo, 2289x cbro, 2256x cxc, 39x lld 14:42:54 well, once I get the patch right 14:43:18 -!- Fusha has quit [] 14:44:37 hm, SA is confused about the tournament team script 14:44:40 " It looks like the tournament script (which runs on CSZO but publishes to CDO??) is just as inconsistent with case-sensitive treatment as CAO's normal scoreboard because it preserves capitalization in team names but the converts player names to all-lowercase. And the "names can't contain anything except numbers/letters/hyphen/underscore" rule is actually false because it keeps spaces but... 14:44:42 ...strips punctuation. " 14:44:54 Napkin: oh, can you make a copy of http://crawl.develz.org/cgi-bin/teams-0.15.sh for 0.16 please? 14:45:07 !time 14:45:08 Time: Mar 13, 2015, 07:45:08 PM, UTC. The 2015 0.16 tournament starts in 14 minutes and 51 seconds. 14:45:10 sure, 1s 14:45:37 done, elliptic 14:46:07 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:46:19 -!- zxc232 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:46:29 so.. now i will get beer and aaalll further requests will suffer heavily delayed execution! 14:46:59 please delay responding to this request 14:47:12 Napkin: oh, creating rcfiles in 0.16 seems to fail - 'unable to create file "/dgldir/rcfiles/crawl-0.16/qwqw.rc"' 14:47:19 Napkin: less urgent though, take your time :) 14:48:23 can't give gw running on cszo a head start, after all 14:48:26 -!- orneryos_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:48:27 *hicks* what? 14:48:33 ok, doing final builds now 14:48:45 done 14:49:08 Napkin: thanks again! 14:50:43 !cheers Napkin 14:50:44 * Sequell slides a cask of tequila across the bar to Napkin, courtesy of gammafunk. 14:50:45 okay, currently the only known issue with tournament scripts is that CPO is refusing wget from CSZO 14:51:10 which probably requires chequers to address but means that tourney scripts won't know about CPO games until it is fixed 14:51:34 ahh, thanks :D 14:51:39 yeah, the new website 14:51:50 i'll get to it 14:51:56 gw doesn't run on cszo 14:52:00 gw runs on cbro 14:52:06 not a coolserver... 14:52:21 coolserver?? 14:52:21 A server with games tracked by Sequell. 14:52:25 hm 14:52:26 well cbro secret tech needs nerfing during tourneys anyway 14:52:32 !time 14:52:33 Time: Mar 13, 2015, 07:52:33 PM, UTC. The 2015 0.16 tournament starts in 7 minutes and 26 seconds. 14:53:27 !tell chequers wget on CPO's logfile/milestone files is currently failing when the tourney scripts on CSZO try it (which happens every 7-10 minutes normally) 14:53:28 elliptic: OK, I'll let chequers know. 14:54:00 man its only 6 minutes away i can`t wait i`m gonna be the first to start the first game of the tournament! 14:54:22 -!- orneryostrich has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 14:54:54 oh, tourney starts today? 14:54:55 !tell chequers so maybe you need to tell something on CPO not to block dobrazupa.org? I don't know what the issue is likely to be, but CPO games won't show up in the tourney page for now 14:54:56 elliptic: OK, I'll let chequers know. 14:55:04 !time 14:55:04 Time: Mar 13, 2015, 07:55:04 PM, UTC. The 2015 0.16 tournament starts in 4 minutes and 55 seconds. 14:55:08 Napkin: today, in 4 minutes 14:55:13 and 55 seconds 14:55:26 yall cant tell time as well as i can 14:55:26 tick 14:55:27 tock 14:55:30 tick 14:55:35 tick 14:55:35 I advise giving it 30 seconds extra just in case some server clocks are misaligned 14:55:38 i use just my breathing to tell time 14:55:40 torque 14:55:44 huh, lessens will do "streaming with commentary" 14:55:46 neat 14:55:52 on twitch? 14:55:54 ya 14:55:54 anyone announce on reddit? 14:55:57 http://www.twitch.tv/lessens 14:56:03 ha 14:56:08 !gamesby lessens 14:56:09 lessens has played 2167 games, between 2012-05-03 16:10:21 and 2015-03-13 14:00:16, won 89 (4.1%), high score 11665157, total score 221765250, total turns 26558626, play-time/day 1:40:27, total time 72d+21:38:06. 14:56:11 can`t wait i got my rc file and everything 14:56:20 good Crawl tourney! Go for the win! | Persona 3 = fail game 14:56:27 !time 14:56:28 Time: Mar 13, 2015, 07:56:27 PM, UTC. The 2015 0.16 tournament starts in 3 minutes and 32 seconds. 14:56:31 tick, tock 14:56:49 this seems to be streaming anime 14:56:51 confusing 14:56:51 don`t anyone else even try, i`m gonna be the first to start 14:57:54 twelwe: sure, but have you considered - what if I was the first, instead? 14:58:05 i`d kill a man 14:58:36 this joker is gonna try to be the first too and he has his camera set on it and everything and he doesn`t know i`m gonna be the first 14:58:47 hahahahahahahahahahahahaha! 14:59:06 !time 14:59:07 Time: Mar 13, 2015, 07:59:06 PM, UTC. The 2015 0.16 tournament starts in 53 seconds. 14:59:09 !!! 14:59:48 hm 14:59:49 !time 14:59:50 !time 14:59:50 Time: Mar 13, 2015, 07:59:50 PM, UTC. The 2015 0.16 tournament starts in 9 seconds. 14:59:50 Time: Mar 13, 2015, 07:59:50 PM, UTC. The 2015 0.16 tournament starts in 9 seconds. 14:59:52 dang 15:00:29 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 15:00:30 The build was broken. (stone_soup-0.16 - e43e579 #1966 : Steve Melenchuk): http://travis-ci.org/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/builds/54293162 15:00:31 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 15:00:38 gonna postwow 15:00:39 er 15:00:39 wow 15:01:09 !kw t 15:01:10 Built-in: t => rstart>2015021320 rtime<2015022920 cv=0.16 15:01:17 !lm t 1 15:01:18 No milestones for t. 15:01:20 !lm * t 1 15:01:21 1/25. [2015-03-13 20:00:11] hyperrchandra the Firebug (L1 CeFE) began the quest for the Orb on turn 0. (D:1) 15:01:22 lol gloves of archery and +6 slaying on d:1 15:01:24 gonan own you all 15:01:30 nice 15:01:35 !lm twelwe t 1 15:01:36 No milestones for twelwe (t). 15:02:09 syncing dropbox... 15:02:09 rofl 15:02:12 i made a trunk game 15:02:13 oh my god 15:02:17 i am so stupid 15:02:20 -!- Tolias has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:02:36 (this may take a while, network is acting up now) 15:03:08 Grunt: you broke every single one. you monster. 15:03:20 !lg * t 1 15:03:21 1/7. simm the Skirmisher (L2 MfBe of Trog), slain by Terence (a +0 flail) on D:2 on 2015-03-13 20:00:38, with 18 points after 568 turns and 0:00:23. 15:03:28 !hs * t 15:03:29 7. simm the Chopper (L7 MfBe of Trog), mangled by a scorpion on D:4 on 2015-03-13 20:02:29, with 452 points after 2937 turns and 0:01:46. 15:03:40 grats simmarine 15:03:42 !lm * t s=char 15:03:43 79 milestones for * (t): 10x MiBe, 9x VSVM, 8x MfBe, 7x GrFi, 5x MiFi, 3x HOFi, 3x VSAs, 3x GrBe, 2x DsGl, 2x HOBe, 2x OgBe, 2x DsIE, 2x MiWn, 2x GrGl, CeFE, DgVM, MuSu, DgFi, HEHu, DDGl, MuNe, VpSu, GhMo, MfTm, GrEE, DDFi, FeMo, TrBe, MiGl, MiWz, VSGl, DEFE, NaMo 15:03:45 !lm * t s=name 15:03:46 82 milestones for * (t): 8x simm, 3x MorganLeah, 3x HilariousDeathArtist, 2x Glidergun, 2x magicflounder, 2x HungrySpirit, 2x MDvedh, 2x LorrdErnie, 2x xFalz, 2x Suckerboh, 2x lessens, 2x Almacia, 2x DrKe, lawman0, Copingsaw, Grimm, fevertrip, Happylisk, ontoclasm, whrimfunis, Jimb0v, uglyjohn, Aston, Celesta, agentgt, TheNoid, hyperrchandra, doubling, SwordHunterGil, inmateoo, bolt, lakren, Armak... 15:03:55 simm supremacy 15:04:01 rip... 15:04:09 we believe in you gw 15:04:14 die more 15:04:41 !lg * t 15:04:42 10. gw the Stinger (L3 DgVM), slain by an adder on D:2 on 2015-03-13 20:04:16, with 71 points after 1805 turns and 0:01:57. 15:04:44 qw is not going for first win because it might actually get it with some luck 15:04:50 heh 15:05:03 and then I would have to fix tourney scripts to disqualify it from that 15:05:19 -!- Bloax has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:05:25 gw seems to like demigods 15:05:40 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 15:06:16 i guess i should win a DE now 15:06:46 -!- Monkaria has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:07:16 -!- Ironfoot has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:07:19 !greaterplayer 15:07:25 Unwon backgrounds for wheals: Abyssal Knight, Air Elementalist, Arcane Marksman, Conjurer, Earth Elementalist, Monk, Summoner, Wizard 15:07:55 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 15:09:05 gammafunk: start DESU, get =sustab on D:1 15:09:13 s/U/u 15:09:26 incredible! 15:09:33 that might lead to... 15:09:35 !glasses 15:09:35 ( •_•)    ( •_•)>âŒâ– -■    (âŒâ– _â– ) 15:09:37 ...something horrible 15:09:46 gammafunk: that was awful 15:10:17 I will fire up a HESu in a minute to show you how this gaem is plaed 15:10:26 I guess I should play too 15:10:29 maybe I'll play the power combo 15:10:31 of 0.16 15:10:39 ??? 15:10:40 I forget which one that is 15:10:47 it's the one I want to play next 15:10:52 !next PleasingFungus 15:10:52 the details don't really matter 15:10:53 The RNG decrees that PleasingFungus shall win DgWn next. 15:10:57 !!! 15:10:57 good net 15:10:59 *next 15:11:02 yes 15:11:07 could also do that 15:11:19 someday I'm gonna get around to ru... 15:11:21 i was the first to start a .17 game at the beginning of the tournament! 15:11:22 good D:2 oklob 15:11:23 I just like hybrids so much, that's all. 15:11:25 twelwe: :) 15:11:39 i mean, what 15:11:42 you haven't won Ru yet? 15:11:44 (ok it's behind plants) 15:11:45 !lg PleasingFungus god=ru 15:11:46 1. PleasingFungus the Grappler (L11 GhWr of Ru), slain by an orc warrior (a +0 trident) on Orc:4 (pubby_orc_utopia) on 2014-10-08 22:02:17, with 6890 points after 9164 turns and 0:46:22. 15:11:53 ah, pubby 15:11:54 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]] 15:12:00 why is auto_eat_chunks not working in 0.16? 15:12:02 iirc I ended up shafting into the end of the level 15:12:09 kinda sucked 15:12:10 "Just turn on that Trog's hand, yo!" -- lessens 15:12:16 Kramin: did you copy your rcfile 15:12:18 his music is very chill. 15:12:20 yeah 15:12:22 -!- cribozai has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 15:12:22 it soothes me. 15:12:32 hm 15:12:35 !lm * alive rstart>20150213200000 0.17-a s=name 15:12:36 14 milestones for * (alive rstart>20150213200000 0.17-a): 5x TeshiAlair, 2x zijoud, 2x Wendol, 2x Berder, hennyo, twelwe, Dorvarich 15:12:36 think it's been working for me 15:12:47 is it a CPO problem 15:12:49 are you a mummy?? 15:12:51 those are people who started trunk games after tourney start (and are still alive) 15:12:51 Kramin: how did you copy your rcfile? 15:13:07 so they might potentially be confused 15:13:28 on CPO I downloaded the trunk one and uploaded it to 0.16 15:13:37 elliptic: do you know how to make that commit for the warning? 15:13:40 rip cxc 15:13:48 &rc 15:13:50 !is_cxc_down 15:13:50 https://crawl.project357.org/rc-files/0.16/Kramin.rc 15:14:25 chequers: are rc files working for 0.16 on CPO? 15:14:27 it's not down 15:14:34 it's just freezing for five seconds every ten seconds 15:14:36 Kramin: you have newline issues 15:14:49 did you copy via console or webtiles? i used to get problems copying over console 15:15:07 check out your section 3-k, for example 15:15:24 oh 15:15:29 how did that happen 15:15:31 gammafunk: oh, that didn't get made? 15:15:36 I don't think so 15:15:38 because virus sucks 15:15:39 I think it is fairly simple, let me go look 15:15:42 %git stone_soup-0.16 15:15:42 07Grunt02 * 0.16.0-3-ge43e579: Ugly Android build fixes. 10(44 minutes ago, 3 files, 3+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=e43e579ff45c 15:15:47 Kramin: also, search for "Expiring effects" 15:15:48 also, trunk doesn't build 15:15:48 oh it'd be trunk 15:15:49 %git 15:15:49 07Grunt02 * 0.17-a0-75-ge2c4c55: Ugly Android build fixes. 10(44 minutes ago, 3 files, 3+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=e2c4c55bd7ca 15:15:53 er 15:15:56 wheals: really? 15:15:59 (that broke non-android) 15:16:02 ug 15:16:04 check out travis's last message 15:16:05 johnny0: thanks 15:16:07 GGGrrruuunnnttt 15:17:14 -!- Lawman0 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:17:15 Kramin: np, it's frustrating when that happens 15:17:57 03Grunt02 07* 0.17-a0-76-g0f27aca: Unbreak other builds. 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 4+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=0f27acafe925 15:18:09 <3 15:18:21 !send Grunt extremely ugly things 15:18:22 Sending extremely ugly things to Grunt. 15:19:03 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/8376576/Dungeon%20Crawl%20Stone%20Soup%20-%20Console.zip https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/8376576/Dungeon%20Crawl%20Stone%20Soup%20-%20Tiles.zip 15:19:07 cool 15:19:10 ^ OS X 0.16.0 builds, signed 15:19:16 thanks geekosaur 15:19:21 PleasingFungus: would you mind testing those? 15:19:27 someone should probably test them on a system not set for unsigned apps 15:19:30 I mean if you're not mad with DgWn power already 15:19:32 !lm PleasingFungus 15:19:33 5994. [2015-03-13 16:45:11] PleasingFungus the Demonologist (L21 MuAs of Gozag) found a silver rune of Zot on turn 71175. (Vaults:5) 15:19:51 looks like he's wrapping up that Mu 15:20:23 pushed the tourney notification thing 15:20:27 that was earlier this morning 15:20:34 03elliptic02 07* 0.17-a0-77-gee7a2f2: Remind online trunk players about the tournament. 10(84 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=ee7a2f2f09a7 15:20:36 grabbing the builds now 15:20:46 I guess we should rebuild trunk everywhere we can now 15:20:52 ??rebuild 15:20:53 rebuild[1/2]: https://dobrazupa.org/rebuild/ http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rebuild/ http://crawl.lantea.net/rebuild/ http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/rebuild/ http://crawl.xtahua.com/rebuild/ Bug Grunt, |amethyst, or Nap Kin for CDO. Use your powers wisely. 15:21:02 “Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup - Console†can’t be opened because it is from an unidentified developer. 15:21:04 likewise tiles 15:21:12 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 15:22:00 sorry, geekosaur 15:22:04 I don't know what's wrong 15:22:38 can someone with CXC rebuild powers rebuild trunk there? I did the others 15:22:58 I probably used the wrong cert which is why I asked 15:23:08 -!- Monkaria_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:23:13 -!- GoblinBomb has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 15:23:14 they created 5 certs and there's no docs as to which is which 15:23:40 elliptic: I was going to, but I think someone already is 15:23:54 geekosaur: niice 15:24:37 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.17-a0-77-gee7a2f2 (34) 15:24:51 resigning 15:24:59 of course it'll take forever to re-upload... 15:25:32 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.17-a0-77-gee7a2f2 (34) 15:26:35 gw killed Robin 15:26:38 yay 15:26:39 ! 15:26:42 !killratio robin * t 15:26:45 robin wins 3.571% of battles against * (t). 15:26:49 ! 15:26:55 clearly t players are a higher caliber :) 15:26:56 okay the trunk prompt seems to work, good 15:27:01 !killratio sigmund * t 15:27:03 at least in console 15:27:04 sigmund wins 10.71% of battles against * (t). 15:27:11 rip gw 15:27:44 !lg gw 15:27:45 2376. gw the Skirmisher (L5 DsFi of Cheibriados), mangled by Sigmund (a +0 scythe) on D:3 on 2015-03-13 20:27:05, with 189 points after 2872 turns and 0:03:01. 15:27:49 chei?! 15:28:03 gammafunk: i was going to go ash instead of sif but then i found sif but not ash in temple 15:28:05 it's a sign 15:28:11 you will win 15:28:16 !lm wheals 15:28:17 15032. [2015-03-13 20:28:07] wheals the Caller (L8 DESu of Sif Muna) became a worshipper of Sif Muna on turn 7337. (Temple) 15:28:21 this is an interesting gw 15:28:27 i know, you'd have 2 runes by now 15:28:54 -!- indspenceable has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:28:56 is mana viper much good 15:29:14 it's situational but I like it 15:29:15 ok, updated with new signatures 15:29:18 ugh CWZ milestones/logfile just disappeared 15:29:28 hopefully this is the release one and not the development one... 15:29:32 it's also pretty useful if you don't have any other l5/l6 summoning spells 15:29:41 and hopefully I wasn't supposed to use the other set... 15:29:43 geekosaur: uploaded? 15:29:47 yes 15:29:50 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 15:29:51 The build was broken. (master - e2c4c55 #1967 : Steve Melenchuk): http://travis-ci.org/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/builds/54293196 15:29:51 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 15:29:55 brutal 15:30:00 dling 15:30:09 re-signing was fast. but thus slow net is why I don't play online 15:30:19 “Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup - Console 2†can’t be opened because the identity of the developer cannot be confirmed. 15:30:19 they work? good 15:30:27 oh. siigh 15:30:28 I don't know, man 15:30:30 brutal... 15:30:39 aaappppppllleee 15:30:41 who is geekosaur, after all? 15:30:47 dled from https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/8376576/Dungeon%20Crawl%20Stone%20Soup%20-%20Console.zip 15:30:47 is that right 15:30:51 or is that the old one 15:30:51 yes 15:30:53 hm 15:30:55 i wonder if gell's is good with summons 15:30:57 I overwrote them 15:31:12 and waited for comfirmation that they were uploaded to dropbox 15:31:16 sure 15:31:46 maybe google around? 15:32:48 http://successfulsoftware.net/2012/08/30/how-to-sign-your-mac-os-x-app-for-gatekeeper/ seems relevant & has a local verification suggestion 15:33:06 the real use for forceful dismissal: getting rid of spires in corridors 15:33:25 I did... 15:33:29 trying with the third key 15:33:47 hrm 15:34:13 wheals: I find the greatest risk of spires is accidentally pissing them off 15:34:22 I'm really bad 15:34:25 i'm planning to improve that, maybe 15:34:31 hrm, I used that ID they said 15:34:42 wheals: ? 15:34:44 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.17-a0-77-gee7a2f2 (34) 15:34:50 by just saying "The cannot swap with you!" and doing nothing when you move into a stationary ally 15:34:53 -!- indspenceable has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:34:55 rather than an obnoxious prompt 15:35:53 -!- elmdor has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:36:27 gw is playing a 15:36:29 ddck 15:36:32 this is amazing 15:36:53 Grunt thinks this is hilarious! 15:36:59 * Grunt roars with laughter! 15:37:42 ok, derpbox thinks it is updated again, and the app opens on my main desktop and thinks it is signed. one more try? 15:38:02 although the console one worries me since I am not sure how they handle signing when the apparent app is a script 15:38:19 I may need to sign the actual executable separately or something 15:38:22 wheals: nice whip 15:38:36 i have some sweet gloves 15:38:43 (hence my sweet str) 15:38:45 ooh and now gw has a crossbow 15:38:51 this is a good gw 15:38:55 it's live! https://crawl.develz.org/ 15:39:05 it's alive!!! 15:39:11 seems to open here 15:39:11 ! ! ! ! 15:39:13 try it again? 15:39:34 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 15:39:39 haha those images 15:39:49 ya 15:40:03 chequers is afk, right? 15:40:25 yeah 15:41:14 so now that the website is live, how do we edit it to remove the "Up-to-date" from the "Community Wiki" line 15:41:26 aaand whoops, that broke my running trunk game 15:41:29 my wife wants dungeon crawl multiplayer! 15:41:31 since even the wiki itself doesn't claim that most of its articles are up to date with 0.15, let alone 0.16 15:41:57 and it could equally well just say "Information on game items & concepts" 15:41:59 -!- OCTOTROG has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:42:11 pull request, elliptic 15:42:21 where's the repo? 15:42:22 git@github.com:alexjurkiewicz/dcss-website.git 15:42:37 Unstable branch on crawl.lantea.net updated to: 0.17-a0-77-gee7a2f2 (34) 15:42:40 we should probably mirror it in crawl's github 15:43:32 -!- fevertrip has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:44:47 -!- muravey_ has quit [Quit: Be back later ...] 15:45:15 well then, grats on the release! good job, gammafunk & everyone who helped! 15:45:27 \o/ 15:45:47 !lm lessens 15:45:48 18724. [2015-03-13 20:45:33] lessens the Executioner (L17 MiBe of Trog) entered the Swamp on turn 32347. (Lair:6) 15:45:55 hm 15:45:58 Napkin: congrats :) 15:46:04 oh, huh, stream lag 15:46:14 !lm lessens spider 15:46:15 614. [2015-03-13 20:45:19] lessens the Executioner (L17 MiBe of Trog) found a gossamer rune of Zot on turn 31970. (Spider:5) 15:46:17 !lm gw 15:46:18 7912. [2015-03-13 20:46:10] gw the Basher (L10 DDCK of Xom) entered the Lair of Beasts on turn 9603. (D:10) 15:46:18 !lm * alive t s=name x=+max(xl) 15:46:19 1161 milestones for * (alive t): 33x lessens [17], 22x simm [16], 22x Brannock [15], 16x Floodkiller [15], 21x MDvedh [14], 17x PowerPlayer [14], 20x MorganLeah [14], 16x Chris7 [14], 13x n1000 [14], 18x DrKe [13], 10x tgcid9999 [13], 24x HungrySpirit [13], 22x Happylisk [13], 20x zarzak [13], 12x Sovek [13], 12x repent [12], 14x agentgt [12], 6x Kellhus [11], 11x WalkerBoh [11], 19x coolio [11], ... 15:46:19 \o/ 15:46:22 19 seconds after the minute 15:46:33 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 15:46:44 !lm * t rune 15:46:45 2. [2015-03-13 20:46:35] simm the Executioner (L16 MiBe of Trog) found a serpentine rune of Zot on turn 25554. (Snake:5) 15:46:52 one minute behind 15:47:10 !lm * t rune 15:47:11 3. [2015-03-13 20:46:43] lessens the Executioner (L17 MiBe of Trog) found a decaying rune of Zot on turn 32619. (Swamp:5) 15:47:18 !lm * t rune 1 15:47:19 1/3. [2015-03-13 20:45:19] lessens the Executioner (L17 MiBe of Trog) found a gossamer rune of Zot on turn 31970. (Spider:5) 15:47:23 mmmm 15:47:23 @??catoblepas 15:47:23 catoblepas (06Y) | Spd: 8 | HD: 14 | HP: 62-93 | AC/EV: 10/2 | Dam: 36 | Res: 06magic(100) | XP: 799 | Sp: petrifying cloud (2d6) [11!AM, 06!sil] | Sz: Big | Int: animal. 15:47:24 I'm not sure if the wiki should be linked on main page at all, since looking at a couple random pages it still appears worse than useless for new players. 15:47:27 that's some runeing 15:47:30 catoblepas (06Y) | Spd: 8 | HD: 14 | HP: 62-92 | AC/EV: 10/2 | Dam: 36 | Res: 06magic(100) | XP: 799 | Sp: petrifying cloud (2d6) [11!AM, 06!sil] | Sz: Big | Int: animal. 15:47:30 %??catoblepas 15:47:41 %git :/speed 15:47:41 07gammafunk02 * 0.16-a0-4128-g10e7e3d: Make catoblepas speed 10 and reduce their breath spam a bit (minmay) 10(12 days ago, 2 files, 2+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=10e7e3d4ad27 15:47:53 Is %?? still outdated? 15:47:56 ya 15:48:01 @??catoblepas 15:48:01 catoblepas (06Y) | Spd: 8 | HD: 14 | HP: 62-93 | AC/EV: 10/2 | Dam: 36 | Res: 06magic(100) | XP: 799 | Sp: petrifying cloud (2d6) [11!AM, 06!sil] | Sz: Big | Int: animal. 15:48:10 hm 15:48:14 v0v 15:48:18 so there's no irc way to get current monster stats? 15:48:23 @??-version 15:48:23 Monster stats Crawl version: 0.16-a0-4020-g6ff35b5 15:48:32 gw is trying pretty hard to commit suicide :( 15:48:35 reaverb: I don't mind linking it, I just don't think we should make claims about it being up-to-date :P 15:48:38 ah, that one's a hundred commits behind 15:48:44 ok 15:48:49 M - the +9 trident "Yheuk" (weapon) {speed, rF++} 15:49:02 gammafunk: i bet sif never gives you stuff like this 15:49:12 more like 15:49:15 the trident yuck 15:49:17 ! 15:49:22 rip 15:49:22 rip 15:49:49 PleasingFungus: i don't think any monsters have been changed since then, though 15:49:56 %git :/atoblep 15:49:56 07gammafunk02 * 0.16-a0-4128-g10e7e3d: Make catoblepas speed 10 and reduce their breath spam a bit (minmay) 10(12 days ago, 2 files, 2+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=10e7e3d4ad27 15:49:56 rip 15:50:01 oh, i see 15:50:17 also, I made giant mites speed 30 and 50 attack damage 15:50:18 elliptic: it's doing it's best to be 15:50:20 Napkin: one last favor, could you update @?? :) 15:50:23 actually 15:50:25 @?-version 15:50:25 Monster stats Crawl version: 0.16-a0-4020-g6ff35b5 15:50:32 ok 15:50:33 -!- Philonous has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:50:51 arg, no, actually, that became amethyst's job ;) 15:51:13 i don't even have idea where it "lives" on disk ;) 15:51:22 need to send out the |amethyst-signal 15:52:37 gammafunk: is invo worth bothering for chanelling for? 15:52:49 er 15:52:51 oh yeah def you need some 15:52:58 you could do fine with just 10 15:52:59 imagine what i said made sense 15:53:11 don't play with 0 invo the whole game 15:53:14 ooh gw is FoAKed 15:53:22 is it running random combos...? 15:53:29 it's a large predefined set 15:53:30 10-15 is very reasonable, but it's linear so more is always better 15:53:43 that's what I meant 15:53:47 I figured you wouldn't allow all combos 15:54:31 !lm PleasingFungus 15:54:32 5994. [2015-03-13 16:45:11] PleasingFungus the Demonologist (L21 MuAs of Gozag) found a silver rune of Zot on turn 71175. (Vaults:5) 15:54:39 damn thats four in a row all down the toilet with the rest of the trash 15:54:39 what the eff is happening there 15:54:40 hmm, did i kill it? 15:54:43 nothing 15:54:46 %git :/Ugly 15:54:46 07Grunt02 * 0.16.0-3-ge43e579: Ugly Android build fixes. 10(83 minutes ago, 3 files, 3+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=e43e579ff45c 15:54:51 I'm doing other stuff 15:54:57 that's the last commit for stone-soup 0.16 15:55:02 @?-version 15:55:02 Monster stats Crawl version: 0.16-a0-4020-g6ff35b5 15:55:05 @??-version 15:55:05 Monster stats Crawl version: 0.16-a0-4020-g6ff35b5 15:55:09 phew 15:55:10 what is the number for that commit? 15:55:16 ir 15:55:17 so did anyone test the latest upload to see if I got the right certs this time? 15:55:26 PleasingFungus: ^ 15:55:31 ie monster is updated to commit 4020 15:55:32 geekosaur: didn't see - there's a third upload? 15:55:33 sorry I don't os x working to test anymore 15:55:40 johnstein: it was 4020 before 15:55:49 !tell |amethyst could you please update @?-monster when you have time? thanks! 15:55:50 Napkin: OK, I'll let |amethyst know. 15:55:51 but the catoblepas speed update is a hundred commits later 15:56:01 yes 15:56:06 geekosaur: no joy, sorry 15:56:14 gah 15:56:14 trying to figure out how many total commits for 0.16 15:56:18 oh dang, simm died 15:56:21 !tell chequers hm, seems to be some certificate issue... I got around it for now, but if you have any idea what might be going wrong with wget certificate-checking, let me know :) 15:56:21 elliptic: OK, I'll let chequers know. 15:56:29 um, are you set to "app store and identified developers"? 15:56:40 hm 15:56:41 pleasingfungus did you run out of jokes? those patchnotes suck 15:56:42 where do i check 15:56:42 I'm not signing for app store and am pretty sure we can't get in there anywya 15:56:50 twelwe: decided to be serious for the big release announcement 15:57:14 yeah, I'm app store & registered devs 15:57:19 er, identified devs 15:57:45 because so am I and it seems to work 15:57:59 !lm tolias x=start,cv 15:58:00 21015. [2015-03-13 20:53:41] [start=2015-03-13 20:07:50 [20150213200750S];cv=0.16-a] Tolias the Severer (L15 MiBe of Trog) killed Aizul on turn 22282. (Spider:2) 15:58:13 this won't be a considered a tourney game, right? 15:58:21 !lm tolias t 15:58:22 No milestones for tolias (t). 15:59:03 mm, actiually I now do not recall if I rezipped the resigned ones... 15:59:30 but signature checked out as valid on the desktop... 15:59:35 elliptic: ? 15:59:35 chequers: You have 3 messages. Use !messages to read them. 15:59:38 !messages 15:59:39 (1/3) elliptic said (1h 6m 12s ago): wget on CPO's logfile/milestone files is currently failing when the tourney scripts on CSZO try it (which happens every 7-10 minutes normally) 15:59:40 !messages 15:59:40 lol i thought "really, we still have yaktaurs in volcano just because they're red?" 15:59:40 (1/2) elliptic said (1h 4m 45s ago): so maybe you need to tell something on CPO not to block dobrazupa.org? I don't know what the issue is likely to be, but CPO games won't show up in the tourney page for now 15:59:41 !messages 15:59:42 (1/1) elliptic said (3m 21s ago): hm, seems to be some certificate issue... I got around it for now, but if you have any idea what might be going wrong with wget certificate-checking, let me know :) 15:59:50 but it was actually just a berserk centaur 15:59:59 elliptic Sure, removing the up-to-date would definitely be good if it stays. But even the "up to date" pages do things like suggest TSO worshippers use throwing nets to stab monsters. 16:00:10 elliptic: maybe you dont have the CA in your trust store, add --no-check-certificate 16:00:12 elliptic: is that the clock delay you warned about? 16:00:27 johnny0, PleasingFungus: sequell is confused about tolias (and everyone on some servers) but the tourney scripts are not 16:00:40 -!- timbw has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:00:41 omg website launched :D 16:00:45 :D :D :D ;D 16:00:56 -!- oblong has quit [Client Quit] 16:00:56 basically some servers are still on 0.16.0-b1 because they haven't rebuilt 0.16 branch since tagging 16:00:58 and 16:01:00 !kw t 16:01:00 Built-in: t => rstart>2015021320 rtime<2015022920 cv=0.16 16:01:09 gotcha 16:01:14 -!- lrvs has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:01:20 Napkin: just checking, you're running the python script from cron too? 16:01:40 yes, but only every 5min 16:01:41 also i linked osx binaries in here yesterday, if you need them 16:01:50 sure, the script takes 3min to run anyway 16:01:54 running it took so long, didn't want to could an overlap 16:01:56 -!- Goncyn has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.3] 16:01:58 elliptic: thanks 16:02:01 well, it has locking :) 16:02:02 chequers: yeah, I added --no-check-certificate for now, I was just a little confused because it suddenly stopped working a few hours ago 16:02:05 no, not 3min, but quite long 16:02:11 elliptic: that's weird, I didn't change anything 16:02:24 back soon 16:02:32 wheals: iirc that is the reasoning for some volcano monsters 16:02:38 !lm * t s=src 16:02:39 yeah 16:02:39 No milestones for * (t). 16:02:44 um 16:02:49 !lm * t 16:02:49 No milestones for * (t). 16:02:54 !kw t 16:02:55 Built-in: t => rstart>2015021320 rtime<2015022920 cv=0.16|0.16-a 16:02:58 hrm 16:03:01 -!- Krakhan has quit [Changing host] 16:03:06 !lm * 16:03:09 13674905. [2015-03-13 21:03:05] Noonstar the Destroyer (L11 VSVM of Kikubaaqudgha) killed Sonja on turn 10261. (D:11) 16:03:12 !lm * cv=0.16 16:03:13 12704. [2015-03-13 21:03:07] Gerad the Grappler (L11 TrBe of Trog) killed Erica on turn 8952. (D:12) 16:03:16 !lm * cv=0.16-a 16:03:18 1936056. [2015-03-13 21:03:09] zkyp the Spry (L15 HaBe of Trog) left the Lair of Beasts on turn 24705. (Lair:1) 16:03:23 !lm * cv=0.16-a|0.16 16:03:24 1948760. [2015-03-13 21:03:09] zkyp the Spry (L15 HaBe of Trog) left the Lair of Beasts on turn 24705. (Lair:1) 16:03:28 h r m 16:03:38 PleasingFungus: greensnark is working on it 16:03:54 k 16:04:02 I had an idea, but it was wrnog 16:05:28 okay looks to be fixed now 16:05:37 geekosaur: lemme know if you rezip your stuff 16:05:52 if you think you hadn't properly zipped the 3rd thing 16:05:55 alternately, idk 16:06:08 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:06:09 could have chequers try them and see if they work for him? 16:06:09 gw has another good game going 16:06:41 then again I'd hope so for that char 16:08:00 mm rods 16:08:22 Grunt: mino zapped clouds at me! 16:08:28 muhahahahahaha 16:08:46 just some meph though 16:09:47 so I just tried the latest ones in a new VM, without devel stuff enabled and with "app store and registered developers" set, and the console one at least runs 16:09:57 okay only known issue with tourney at this point is the lack of CWZ logfile/milestones 16:12:27 geekosaur: idk v0v 16:12:34 &locate gw 16:12:35 gw was last seen on CBRO (gw, L1 MfGl of No God). 16:12:41 &spectate gw 16:12:43 if it works for someone else (chequers), I guess we could put it up and see if anyone else complains? 16:12:54 tbh, i didn't test my builds 16:12:57 do you need me to? 16:13:04 could you test geekosaur's? 16:13:10 link? 16:13:15 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/8376576/Dungeon%20Crawl%20Stone%20Soup%20-%20Console.zip https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/8376576/Dungeon%20Crawl%20Stone%20Soup%20-%20Tiles.zip 16:13:37 &watch gw 16:13:38 ^watch gw 16:13:38 Watch gw at: http://crawl.berotato.org:8080/#watch-gw 16:13:44 -!- Ironfoot has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:13:49 basically it works on my test vms and machines, and PF gets "not from identified developer" 16:14:04 Shadows whirl around you... 16:14:09 !cmd &spectate &watch 16:14:09 Defined command: &spectate => &watch 16:14:11 PleasingFungus: 3 spny frogs and a basilisk 16:14:16 nice 16:14:29 nothing an elven summoner of sif can't handle, naturally 16:15:03 PleasingFungus: tiles loads fine 16:15:07 huh 16:15:13 guess it's just me? idk 16:15:20 what error do you get? 16:15:30 not from identified developer 16:15:49 old osx? 16:15:52 !lm gw 16:15:52 7939. [2015-03-13 21:15:06] gw the Cudgeler (L3 DgGl) killed Sigmund on turn 1507. (D:2) 16:15:54 actually, is that 10.10? there's some new caching crap 16:15:54 \o/ 16:16:04 10.10.1 16:16:18 and some sekrit reset sequence needed to undo it 16:17:16 wheals: your reddit title-fu is weak 16:17:28 ikr 16:17:30 but, if these work, then they work. I'll note which certs to use next time 16:17:35 03Grunt02 07[stone_soup-0.16] * 0.16.0-4-g7e54fe0: Unbreak other builds. 10(61 minutes ago, 1 file, 4+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=7e54fe00b742 16:17:47 -!- |amethyst has joined ##crawl-dev 16:17:52 Grunt: good thing to cherry-pick 16:17:54 ya 16:18:03 I thought I pushed that to the stable branch but apparently not 16:18:23 this is what that movie Unbroken was about, right 16:18:24 hrm 16:18:42 need to get some coffee, then figure out what combo I want to try 16:19:48 !kw t 16:19:49 Built-in: t => rstart>2015021320 rtime<2015022920 ((cv=0.16|0.16-a)) 16:19:55 !lg t won 1 16:19:55 No games for t (won). 16:20:04 !lg t won 16:20:05 No games for t (won). 16:20:08 !lg * t won 16:20:09 1. lessens the Executioner (L24 MiBe of Trog), escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2015-03-13 21:15:53, with 1954733 points after 48953 turns and 1:13:49. 16:20:21 he called my shadow traps 'stupid' twice which was very hurtful. 16:20:27 accordingly I am disqualifying him. 16:20:35 brutal. 16:20:54 harsh - but fair 16:21:03 !lg . won min=dur 16:21:04 34. PleasingFungus the Wrestler (L25 TrMo of Okawaru), escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2014-05-25 04:20:49, with 1858595 points after 54368 turns and 3:51:13. 16:21:19 I wouldn't say theyr'e stupid 16:21:20 i think i ran into more shadow traps on that mibe than all my previous chars combined 16:21:22 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 16:21:32 I have called them baby zot traps once or twice after they;ve annoyed me 16:21:44 sa has decided they're worse than zot traps 16:21:51 PleasingFungus: zzz slowpoke 16:22:00 !lg wheals won min=dur 16:22:01 23. wheals the Slayer (L23 TrWr of Makhleb), escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2014-10-07 15:44:01, with 2121252 points after 40412 turns and 2:32:54. 16:22:04 sa does have a point 16:22:06 nice 16:22:15 haha i forgot to do two levels of lair 16:22:23 kvaak: I've washed my hands of shadow traps at this point. they're someone else's problem 16:22:33 i like em 16:22:57 -!- Basil has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.2] 16:23:29 man sif do you get that i like summoning 16:23:31 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 16:23:34 cause that would be cool 16:23:41 &dump wheals 16:23:42 http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/morgue/wheals/wheals.txt 16:23:43 oh i was training charms instead of summoning 16:23:47 doh 16:24:07 how much did you train 16:24:10 considering you were the one who implemented them that statement doesn't make a whole lot of sense but frankly i don't particularly care either way 16:24:13 <|amethyst> hmm 16:24:14 <|amethyst> !time 16:24:15 Time: Mar 13, 2015, 09:24:15 PM, UTC. The 2015 ['0.16', '0.16-a'] tournament ends in 15 days, 22 hours, 35 minutes and 44 seconds. 16:24:31 <|amethyst> I assume 0.16-a doesn't really count towards the tournament? 16:25:20 |amethyst: it does, because: 16:25:30 !lm * cxc t x=v 16:25:31 409. [2015-03-13 21:25:14] [v=0.16.0-b1] ketsa the Cleaver (L11 DsBe of Trog) killed Erica on turn 12402. (Lair:2) 16:25:37 cxc is still on beta 16:25:45 didn't Medar update that? 16:25:49 it's weird that -a is -b 16:25:57 oh he added 0.16 early, right 16:25:59 kvaak: well, I'm retired now. 16:25:59 PleasingFungus: cv combines a and b 16:26:00 not the same as update 16:26:07 I thought catoblepas got reduced chance to spam breath 16:26:11 ??rebuild 16:26:11 rebuild[1/2]: https://dobrazupa.org/rebuild/ http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rebuild/ http://crawl.lantea.net/rebuild/ http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/rebuild/ http://crawl.xtahua.com/rebuild/ Bug Grunt, |amethyst, or Nap Kin for CDO. Use your powers wisely. 16:26:13 I just had one fire off breath 5 times in a row 16:26:14 hrm 16:26:19 don't we have cxc rebuild anyhow? 16:26:23 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:26:39 we do 16:26:40 yes, it is less likely that that will happen now :) 16:26:41 I do 16:26:53 %git :/atobl 16:26:53 07gammafunk02 * 0.16-a0-4128-g10e7e3d: Make catoblepas speed 10 and reduce their breath spam a bit (minmay) 10(12 days ago, 2 files, 2+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=10e7e3d4ad27 16:26:58 struck down by unluckiness then 16:27:02 rip 16:27:08 !lg Brannock 16:27:09 1426. Brannock the Ducker (L4 MiWz of Cheibriados), slain by an orc (a +0 flail) on D:3 on 2015-03-13 20:56:24, with 116 points after 2088 turns and 0:03:08. 16:27:14 oh no, I'm still going 16:27:20 some "struck down'!!! 16:27:22 oh, then we'll try harder Brannock_ 16:27:27 please do 16:27:30 gammafunk: yeah, it would be good if someone with a cxc rebuild account would rebuild 0.16 I guess 16:27:38 ok, let me try 16:27:57 oh 16:28:02 ;;;; Updating git repository /home/crawl-dev/dgamelaunch-config/crawl-build/crawl-git-repository 16:28:05 error: unable to unlink old 'crawl-ref/source/dat/descript/sv/items.txt' (Permission denied) 16:28:08 Failed: returned 1 16:28:15 :| 16:28:17 seems we have a problem 16:28:21 -!- bullock has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:28:43 !tell Medar Trying to rebuild 0.16 (it's stil the beta and not 0.16.0) gets error: unable to unlink old 'crawl-ref/source/dat/descript/sv/items.txt' (Permission denied) 16:28:43 gammafunk: OK, I'll let medar know. 16:28:46 !lg * t won 16:28:47 1. lessens the Executioner (L24 MiBe of Trog), escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2015-03-13 21:15:53, with 1954733 points after 48953 turns and 1:13:49. 16:29:00 I carried lessens with my twitch chat advice 16:29:04 but he won't get any more help 16:31:34 this was partly my fault but 16:31:36 !lg . cv=0.16 16:31:37 1. gammafunk the Convoker (L16 HESu of Sif Muna), shot by Vashnia (arrow) on Snake:5 (snake_pit_salamanders_mu) on 2015-03-13 01:10:07, with 160895 points after 18096 turns and 3:17:35. 16:31:54 gonna make BIG vashnia changes in that unique branch 16:31:58 gammafunk: hmh, I'm away for the weekend (on phone atm) 16:31:58 Medar: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 16:33:34 ??cxc[2 16:33:34 cXc[2/2]: Announced by Eksell, which uses | as a prefix. Morgues, ttyrecs etc. are at http://CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM/crawl/. Maintained by Medar and zkyp. 16:33:38 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 16:33:43 Medar: could zkyp fix things? 16:33:52 guess the daily upload will fail too 16:34:04 I guess as long as elliptic is counting the beta version as well there's no problem? 16:34:15 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 16:34:15 if you can help him out 16:34:53 gammafunk: this was never a problem with the tourney scripts, yeah 16:35:07 -!- TurboShekel has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:35:12 he's not too familiar with the build stuff I guess 16:35:19 there's no special urgency in rebuilding CXC 16:35:29 though it would be nice to have the bugfixes I guess 16:35:39 ok 16:35:39 ok, maybe we can let Medar have a nice weekend and he can fix it when he's back :) 16:35:40 but I'm not sure how many of the other servers have those anyway 16:38:09 -!- Celesta_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:39:20 -!- Lasty1 has joined ##crawl-dev 16:40:24 elliptic: is there much in the way of sequell support for queries by clan? 16:40:34 or do we just make a nick for that 16:40:39 I guess that's all one would need 16:40:40 people generally make a nick yes 16:40:43 ok 16:40:43 e.g. 16:40:52 !nick lootfeel 16:40:53 No nick mapping for lootfeel. 16:40:59 !nick statuemimic 16:41:00 No nick mapping for statuemimic. 16:41:10 !nick statuemimic elliptic basil clouded marvinpa mauris simm 16:41:11 Mapping statuemimic => elliptic basil clouded marvinpa mauris simm 16:41:17 !locateall statuemimic t 16:41:19 clouded: CDO crawl-0.16 0.16, L6 MuCK of Xom || mauris: CXC 0.16-a, L1 VSVM of No God || simm: CSZO 0.16, L15 MiBe of Trog 16:41:36 hm why does CDO look like that 16:41:45 !lm * cdo t x=src 16:41:46 95. [2015-03-13 21:38:18] [src=cdo] Kellhus the Jinx (L15 VSVM of Makhleb) reached level 15 of the Dungeon on turn 27192. (D:15) 16:41:47 !kw statuemimic 16:41:48 No keyword 'statuemimic' 16:41:48 !lm * cdo t x=v 16:41:49 95. [2015-03-13 21:38:18] [v=0.16.0] Kellhus the Jinx (L15 VSVM of Makhleb) reached level 15 of the Dungeon on turn 27192. (D:15) 16:41:54 ? 16:41:54 !lm * cdo t x=cv 16:41:55 95. [2015-03-13 21:38:18] [cv=0.16] Kellhus the Jinx (L15 VSVM of Makhleb) reached level 15 of the Dungeon on turn 27192. (D:15) 16:42:02 chequers: it's a nick, see above 16:42:06 <|amethyst> !lm * cdo x=file 16:42:09 2582241. [2015-03-13 21:38:18] [file=remote.cdo-milestones-0.16] Kellhus the Jinx (L15 VSVM of Makhleb) reached level 15 of the Dungeon on turn 27192. (D:15) 16:42:17 !cmd !locateall 16:42:17 Command: !locateall => .echo $(or $(join " || " $(split " | ^" $(sub 1 $(=locateall.raw $*)))) "Failed to locate $(name_fixup "$*").") 16:42:27 !cmd =locateall.raw 16:42:28 Command: =locateall.raw => !lm ${*:-.} alive s=name,gid o=-name join:" | " pfmt:"^${.}: ${child}" fmt:"\$(!lm ${*:-.} gid=${.} fmt:'$(upper $src) $explbr $cv, L$xl $char of ${god:-No God}')" stub:"^" 16:42:31 PleasingFungus: wheals got your end, let's see if you're a bad enough dude to kill wheals 16:42:36 <|amethyst> oh 16:42:38 <|amethyst> explbr 16:42:42 <|amethyst> !lm * cdo x=explbr 16:42:43 2582242. [2015-03-13 21:42:24] [explbr=crawl-0.16] kryft the Severer (L12 MiBe of Trog) killed Erica on turn 12613. (Lair:6) 16:42:53 <|amethyst> !lm * cszo x=explbr 16:42:56 4048085. [2015-03-13 21:42:49] [explbr=] rocky1 the Executioner (L15 HOBe of Trog) entered the Spider Nest on turn 18926. (Lair:3) 16:43:02 !nick lootfeel gammafunk wheals PleasingFungus dpeg ontoclasm bh 16:43:02 Mapping lootfeel => gammafunk wheals pleasingfungus dpeg ontoclasm bh 16:43:04 oh hm 16:43:19 <|amethyst> oh 16:43:22 <|amethyst> I guess that's because of 16:43:23 I don't know how explbr works exactly 16:43:26 <|amethyst> ifneq ($(SRC_BRANCH),$(filter master release stone_soup-%, $(SRC_BRANCH))) DEFINES_L += -DEXPERIMENTAL_BRANCH="\"$(SRC_BRANCH)\"" 16:43:29 <|amethyst> endif 16:43:46 <|amethyst> but I guess CDO does the checkout into a different branch 16:43:51 aha 16:44:00 !lm * cdo s=explbr 16:44:04 2582243 milestones for * (cdo): 2556109x, 26036x crawl-0.15, 98x crawl-0.16 16:44:14 did this for all of 0.15 and we didn't notice 16:44:25 <|amethyst> !lm * cszo s=explbr 16:44:31 4048113 milestones for * (cszo): 4019094x, 9270x iashol, 9138x smithgod rebased, 5756x chunkless, 2355x gods, 1808x weightless, 692x new nemelex 16:44:44 <|amethyst> hm 16:44:54 -!- Chris7 has quit [] 16:44:57 <|amethyst> I thought there was a while where we were always defining EXPERIMENTAL_BRANCH 16:45:03 -!- reaverb1 has joined ##crawl-dev 16:45:13 <|amethyst> I guess sequell might have dropped that for trunk builds? 16:45:42 -!- reaverb has quit [Disconnected by services] 16:45:45 -!- reaverb1 is now known as reaverb 16:46:08 <|amethyst> oh, no, I guess it was always there... what was the change then? 16:46:24 <|amethyst> oh right 16:46:29 <|amethyst> %git 30d9616e 16:46:29 07|amethyst02 * 0.15-a0-2019-g30d9616: Only define EXPERIMENTAL_BRANCH for USE_DGAMELAUNCH builds. 10(8 months ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=30d9616ef6d9 16:46:38 this is a great time because people make all sorts of jokes what with the team names and all 16:47:01 someone made this team name called you go zig i gozag heh thats a good one 16:48:08 <|amethyst> I like "Formicide is Painless" 16:48:25 <|amethyst> And I see ebering has read _Infinite Jest_ 16:48:35 Hellfire doesn't melt steel golems was great when someone explained it to me 16:49:11 -!- MgDark has quit [Read error: No route to host] 16:49:44 w0w how about that its a friday a 13th 16:50:04 -!- ashudal has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:51:02 <|amethyst> there seem to be two "Death Cob For Cutie" clans 16:51:06 <|amethyst> with different capitalisation 16:51:15 next tournament i`d like to be the announcer 16:51:28 hey Napkin it doesn't look like .json files are being compressed by the server which is making the frontpage much slower than it should be 16:51:49 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:52:14 maybe get a suit and a nametag like official crawl tournament announcer or maybe like a custom forum title or maybe just a signature 16:52:16 -!- indspenceable has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:52:21 Napkin: actualy, html/css/js is not gziped either 16:52:23 not a real suit just an avatar of a suit 16:52:54 PleasingFungus: just cleared your orc:$ :) 16:53:22 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 16:53:23 :) 16:53:26 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:54:38 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 16:54:59 PleasingFungus: I wonder if you could get away with just placing one classed ds monster 16:55:17 it's roughly equivalent to an orc warlord 16:55:23 -!- hy-on-github has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:55:26 depends on which you choose though 16:55:39 <|amethyst> chequers: the downloads page should probably link to 0.16 16:56:57 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 16:57:24 gammafunk: I'd considered it, but hangedman argued that the focus should be on the orcs, with the ds & demons more as an accent than the primary focus/"bosses" 16:57:29 which seemed reasonable 16:57:38 i thought it was cool to see two of them 16:57:44 I suppose, but then we'd like to remove those facets I guess 16:57:59 "I streamed the run on Twitch from start to finish and even had a developer come by (I ran across an octopode crusher, he said he developed that creature, then I killed it)." 16:58:05 gammafunk: rip... 16:58:12 I trolled as much as I could 16:58:27 -!- reaverb has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 16:58:27 e.g. Asterion! Don't harm my child! You killed my son! 16:58:33 yall devs gonna get owned this tournament 16:58:36 lessens merely laughed at my pain 16:59:02 PleasingFungus: also, the only good loot in the place was the fen folio :) 16:59:03 that guy listens to some weird anime music 16:59:13 which guy 16:59:15 what is your playlist twelwe 16:59:16 wheals: nice 16:59:25 its youtube music 16:59:37 i cant copy and paste 16:59:39 like soundtracks from nature documentaries? 16:59:40 gammafunk: I'd rather use them in places where they're appropriate 16:59:42 huh, got lorekeeper I by accident 16:59:45 like the demon pit 16:59:47 which will be real someday 17:00:01 PleasingFungus: yeah it's not a concern unless we remove those facets, which we keep talking about 17:00:02 I agree with removing the facets from *classed* demonspawn 17:00:02 -!- Calisca has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:00:04 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: too many pits IMO 17:00:13 its stuff like a guy called gerald burial that stuff just not anime 17:00:13 and I guess the usual "I'm retired" clause applies 17:00:15 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: rename snake to "The Snake Ladder" 17:00:15 !send THE_PIT |amethyst 17:00:15 Sending |amethyst to THE_PIT. 17:00:32 i like how all of our points are from dying 17:00:56 I should fire up an unkillable HESu then 17:01:28 <|amethyst> !tell mumra if you're still looking for a team, your winrate is low enough for TEAMCAPTAIN: neil :) 17:01:28 |amethyst: OK, I'll let mumra know. 17:01:40 twelwe: it's spelled "butler" 17:01:42 UNKiLLABLE 17:01:51 |amethyst: have you accepted our release :) 17:01:56 it was not the prettiest 17:01:58 not me, i can`t spell 17:01:58 @??-version 17:01:58 Monster stats Crawl version: 0.16-a0-4020-g6ff35b5 17:02:21 |amethyst: also, could you update monster? :P 17:02:30 or maybe you already started 17:02:48 gammafunk: I mean, yes, of course, I'm not going to fight over any of this, since I'm retired - but *my personal* preference would be (1) remove facets from classed ds, (2) rename the facets to something not intentionally obscure, and (3) use them in more depth-appropriate places than 'pan' 17:03:01 |amethyst: i have no edit power for the live site 17:03:04 |amethyst: but yes 17:03:06 oh 17:03:26 PleasingFungus: red demonspawn, blue demonspawn, black demonspawn, purple demonspawn, etc. 17:03:38 firespawn, icespawn, 90sspawn 17:03:45 PleasingFungus: hrm, well I'm not sure...like there would just be kind of "lesser classes" of ds monsters? 17:03:47 (only 90s kids will get this!!!) 17:03:53 gammafunk: ? 17:04:06 PleasingFungus: I guess I don't quite fully know how this differs from the current state 17:04:13 I mean removing from classed ds I get 17:04:27 i didnt get the joke pleasingfungus but its friday 13th so i`m totally off astrologically and what have you 17:04:33 twelwe: rip 17:04:44 -!- edlothiol has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:04:46 but how would the facets for non-classed ds work? They're essentially like unclassed dracs? 17:04:56 yes, just as they are now 17:05:12 you know what i saw the other day is an ad for palm readers online, and i thought i was the only one who made that joke and its a real career 17:05:29 hrm, well that's kind of the problem, the existing facets aren't that great, unlike drac facets (arguably, I suppose) 17:05:30 it makes you thihnk what other things people joke about that are actually real 17:05:46 leprechauns, yetis, astrology..... 17:05:46 I think they're mostly just poorly named. I don't think they're actually bad or worse than drac facets 17:05:50 maybe pare them down 17:05:56 I mean on unclassed dracs, the colour isn't particularly great either for many 17:06:06 <|amethyst> hm, what would be better names? 17:06:08 black, yellow, do any others matter? 17:06:08 tbh they're better than drac facets, insofar as they don't have "mottled", "pale", "grey 17:06:16 gammafunk: white is by far the top killer 17:06:22 <|amethyst> "Icy", "Fiery", "Rotting", "Spiny"? 17:06:26 -!- Patashu_ has joined ##crawl-dev 17:06:26 -!- Patashu has quit [Disconnected by services] 17:06:29 hrm 17:06:36 !lg * recent ikiller~~draconian s=ikiller 17:06:37 581 games for * (recent ikiller~~draconian): 67x a white draconian, 47x a red draconian, 46x a purple draconian, 38x a black draconian, 26x a yellow draconian, 23x a green draconian, 18x a pale draconian, 14x a grey draconian, 11x a mottled draconian, 10x a green draconian zealot, 10x a green draconian monk, 10x a black draconian monk, 9x a yellow draconian knight, 9x a pale draconian knight, 9x a... 17:06:47 gelid and infernal seem like reasonable names for now 17:06:51 they're really not 17:06:54 <|amethyst> I think demonspawn names are less obscure than draconian ones 17:06:55 no one knows what gelid means 17:06:56 !lg * recent ikiller~~white_draconian s=kaux 17:06:57 97 games for * (recent ikiller~~white_draconian): 69x chilling blast, 3x, 2x by divine providence, 2x iron shot, 2x a +0 battleaxe, 2x a +2,+0 battleaxe of freezing, crystal spear, a +0,+1 battleaxe, a +0,+2 battleaxe of freezing, a +0 long sword of draining, bolt of lightning, a +0 battleaxe of freezing, freezing vapour, a cursed -3 falchion, by the air, a +0 trident, a +1,+1 battleaxe of freezin... 17:07:04 <|amethyst> no one knows what "pale" means either 17:07:07 <|amethyst> or "green" 17:07:09 well white breath is just like a bolt of cold 17:07:11 %git :/[Pp]ale 17:07:11 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.17-a0-70-gce018db: (Almost) remove (monster) pale & grey draconians 10(2 days ago, 11 files, 34+ 44-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=ce018dbd11a3 17:07:14 green = poison, duh 17:07:27 I mean that's not bad I suppose, but ice dragons do that 17:07:35 for example green rats have poison attacks wait what 17:07:43 what's a green rat...? 17:07:51 purple is another one that's different and maybe interesting 17:07:53 (: 17:08:00 -!- MIC132 has joined ##crawl-dev 17:08:06 gammafunk: it's actually nastier than ice dragon breath, iirc 17:08:28 PleasingFungus: yeah but that feels more like an "adjust the damage" thing as opposed to some interesting affect 17:08:28 <|amethyst> Also, "salamander" is kind of obscure 17:08:31 *effect 17:08:44 gammafunk: yeah I personally don't like it, it's weird in a few ways 17:08:53 -!- Ironfoot has joined ##crawl-dev 17:09:02 knockback! 17:09:07 but you're probably right that we'd have to look at those facets a bit carefully before just "tossing them out" 17:09:09 !send wheals more knockback crashes 17:09:09 Sending more knockback crashes to wheals. 17:09:11 the servers are brimming with life thanks to 0.16 and tournament 17:09:14 |amethyst: yeah, fire/fiery, ice/icy - spiny gives a bad idea of what monstrous do, I think 17:09:17 good job guyse 17:09:29 and you forgot the tormented ones or w/e they're called (but everyone does) 17:09:31 Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.17-a0-77-gee7a2f2 17:09:35 ! 17:09:46 ! 17:09:48 those guys might be cool if they showed up somewhere they're relevant (the powered by pain ds) 17:09:53 i think maybe combining the more notable aspects of the non-elemental ones 17:10:09 !lg * ikiller~~demonspawn s=cikiller 17:10:10 19 games for * (ikiller~~demonspawn): 4x a demonspawn scorcher, 4x an infernal demonspawn, 3x a torturous demonspawn, 3x a putrid demonspawn, 2x a demonspawn, a gelid demonspawn, a glowing shapeshifter, Fannar 17:10:15 torturous 17:10:18 nice fannar 17:10:30 or just removing monstrous, "takes more time to kill" doesn't sound so interesting? 17:10:50 yeah I totally don't even know what the facets actually do :p 17:10:55 I'm using to just killing ds and moving on 17:10:57 good rogues_gallery cameo 17:11:09 wow 4x 17:11:13 that firestorm 17:11:17 I got that one too 17:11:37 d:1 gnoll what is going on rng 17:11:50 gammafunk: express halberd delivery service 17:12:01 whip thankfully 17:12:15 !lg * ikiller~~demonspawn cikiller=fannar 17:12:17 1. DasRunzen the Thaumaturge (L10 MuWz of Sif Muna), blasted by Fannar the gelid demonspawn (Ozocubu's Refrigeration) on D:10 on 2014-02-02 23:36:31, with 6426 points after 12385 turns and 0:53:14. 17:12:21 gelid!!! 17:12:23 haha 17:12:32 it even kept ozo refridge 17:12:37 gammafunk: I don't think that's actually a problem with the facets, it's a problem with them being placed solely in pan 17:12:39 amazing 17:12:46 with the stats of orc knights 17:12:56 pan knights 17:12:59 put them in depths 17:13:01 more knights...!? 17:13:14 !send PleasingFungus grey draconian knights 17:13:15 Sending grey draconian knights to PleasingFungus. 17:13:18 PleasingFungus: well that could be I suppose, but if this happened I'd like to see replacement rather than outright addition, personally 17:13:24 in terms of where they landed 17:13:33 sure 17:13:33 put them in elf imho 17:13:39 possible! 17:13:45 then add the pan portal to elf 17:13:55 we'll make elliptic fight them 17:13:59 he loves elf! 17:14:06 (it's like if we only put ugly things in hell branches, and then claimed "oh, what's the point of all the color business, everyone just one-shots these guys...)" 17:14:07 -!- Ironfoot has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:14:16 -!- rossi has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.1.1] 17:14:39 ha ha ha 17:14:48 look, you don't want to say it, but I will: the point of ugly thing is Eating the Purple 17:14:57 also true 17:15:00 !lg * won tiles min=dur 17:15:06 13106. tstbtto the Impregnable (L26 MiBe of Trog), escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2015-02-20 17:24:07, with 1744415 points after 63928 turns and 0:54:49. 17:15:28 what's that command to monitor nemelex's choice 17:15:31 !lg !bot won tile min=dur 17:15:32 No keyword 'tile' 17:15:34 !nem_choice 17:15:35 !lg !bot won tiles min=dur 17:15:38 !nchoice 17:15:41 13101. BLOAX the Wrestler (L26 GrGl of Cheibriados), escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2015-03-13 22:14:34, with 2113006 points after 43375 turns and 1:41:38. 17:15:42 !nemelex_ch... 17:15:45 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 17:15:46 o/ 17:15:50 VSVM: 0 wins || Xen: CSZO, L21 Bludgeoner of Okawaru || WalkerBoh: CAO, L18 Black Belt of Qazlal || Kellhus: CDO, L17 Jinx of Makhleb || SomeoneAwful: CSZO, L16 Blocker of Trog || Noonstar: CAO, L15 Destroyer of Kikubaaqudgha || Hurricos: CSZO, L13 Bringer of Light of The Shining One || jacquesderrida: CSZO, L13 Fencer of Okawaru || joy1999: CAO, L12 Covert of Ru || onget: LLD, L11 Sneak of Okawar... 17:15:50 nice caps 17:15:53 HI 17:16:03 can't go XTAHUA without ALLCAPS 17:16:05 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:16:10 people making good progress. I'll do my own thing 17:16:20 which is?! 17:16:37 !rng a b 17:16:37 The RNG chooses: a. 17:16:40 this is a very impressive time considering that the server performance was, uh 17:16:45 whoops I forgot to decide which was which 17:16:45 "unpleasant" 17:16:51 !rng a b 17:16:51 The RNG chooses: a. 17:17:21 interesting start 17:17:32 crap! all this debate with PleasingFungus made me spend 500 turns on d:1!!! 17:18:07 !lg * won !@bot tiles min=dur -log 17:18:30 13101. BLOAX, XL26 GrGl, T:43375: http://crawl.xtahua.com/crawl/morgue/BLOAX/morgue-BLOAX-20150313-221434.txt 17:18:47 (why is that not /msg) 17:19:54 drke yall need another clanmate? 17:20:16 yeah 17:20:30 how much are the dues? 17:20:42 <|amethyst> !lg due / won 17:20:43 6/1416 games for due: N=6/1416 (0.42%) 17:20:55 -!- Dunsworth has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 17:21:06 man i gotta get in on your clan sign me up 17:21:12 i will think of a funny response to that later 17:21:35 !lg twelwe 17:21:41 814. twelwe the Cudgeler (L5 OgHu), slain by a quokka (summoned by Eustachio) on D:4 on 2015-03-13 22:02:49, with 206 points after 3283 turns and 0:10:16. 17:21:46 -!- benita has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:21:58 ok done 17:22:07 oh dope as real dope 17:22:34 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Quit: Excess flood] 17:25:29 is speedrunning a sin now 17:25:40 -!- TurboShekel has quit [Changing host] 17:26:44 yes, if I see it I usually ban the account 17:28:37 -!- vale_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:28:52 -!- jawollers has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:28:56 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 17:29:08 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 17:29:30 -!- Sonata has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:30:13 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 17:31:51 -!- WereVolvo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:31:58 where morgues and dumps for 0.16 on cdo? 17:32:09 -!- Patashu_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:34:25 <|amethyst> Napkin: CDO 0.16 morgues seem not to be linked into htdocs 17:34:50 hoppala 17:34:57 <|amethyst> Napkin: also rcfiles 17:34:59 hey, could you rebuild monster, please? 17:35:04 <|amethyst> I just did 17:35:08 <|amethyst> or do you mean again? 17:35:14 <|amethyst> @??-version 17:35:14 Monster stats Crawl version: 0.17-a0-77-gee7a2f2 17:35:17 no, all perfect :) 17:35:26 <|amethyst> I don't know how to build the @? monster 17:35:28 <|amethyst> @?-version 17:35:28 Monster stats Crawl version: 0.17-a0-77-gee7a2f2 17:35:30 <|amethyst> oh 17:35:33 uh. 17:35:40 that seems undesirable. 17:35:50 Monster stats Crawl version: 0.15-b1-44-gb588af2 17:35:50 <|amethyst> %?-version 17:35:52 morgues done 17:36:29 works now, thanks 17:36:34 configs done 17:36:48 <|amethyst> thanks! 17:37:10 -!- gareppa has quit [Client Quit] 17:37:42 <|amethyst> elliptic: CDO 0.16 rc files should now be visible for tournament purposes 17:37:48 <|amethyst> http://crawl.develz.org/configs/0.16/ 17:39:54 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 17:39:55 The build was broken. (master - ee7a2f2 #1969 : elliptic): http://travis-ci.org/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/builds/54299680 17:39:55 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 17:40:25 <|amethyst> oh 17:40:46 rip. 17:40:57 |amethyst: the scripts actually use a cgi-script for CDO rcfiles, which was already working, but having the rcfiles visible to &rc is good of course :) 17:40:59 thanks, |amethyst 17:41:04 <|amethyst> elliptic: aha 17:41:22 <|amethyst> hm, perhaps our trunk tournament warning should somehow detect whether it's being run as a test :) 17:41:51 <|amethyst> otherwise every batch of trunk commits during the tournament is going to cause Travis to complain 17:42:11 are other servers not using that cgi-bin yet to parse the configs, elliptic? 17:43:02 Napkin: not yet, though I've suggested it to some people 17:43:24 <|amethyst> I guess I could set that up on CAO 17:43:29 <|amethyst> unless I did so already last year 17:43:48 <|amethyst> cszo doesn't need it as long as the tournament scripts run there :) 17:43:49 it is definitely a better system than wgetting everything 17:43:51 definitely makes sense on load 17:43:52 right 17:44:57 |amethyst: let me know if you do and I'll change the scripts to use it 17:45:11 |amethyst: I can dig up the grep that we use for it 17:45:38 <|amethyst> I see the script on CDO 17:45:40 'grep -n "^# TEAM" *.rc' 17:45:45 ah, right 17:45:48 that works too :) 17:48:55 -!- Aryth has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.0.4 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/] 17:49:20 <|amethyst> hm 17:49:32 <|amethyst> perhaps that should be more like "^# *TEAM" though 17:49:50 <|amethyst> I see several people on CAO have #TEAMCAPTAIN 17:50:02 let me look at the scripts 17:50:07 -!- Icadius has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:50:40 -!- Patashu_ has joined ##crawl-dev 17:50:40 -!- Patashu has quit [Disconnected by services] 17:51:00 -!- heteroy has joined ##crawl-dev 17:51:35 -!- TMTurtle_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:51:55 <|amethyst> elliptic: http://crawl.akrasiac.org/cgi-bin/teams-0.16 with the slightly looser regex 17:52:11 <|amethyst> err 17:52:21 -!- ElanMorin has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.0.1] 17:52:39 <|amethyst> the -n seems not to be working? 17:52:43 looking at this code the actual regex used might be a lot looser 17:53:14 <|amethyst> oh never mind 17:53:26 <|amethyst> I just can't read, line numbers are in fact there 17:53:52 -!- indspenceable has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 17:54:09 let me test something to make sure I understand the scripts 17:54:15 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:54:17 -!- tcsc has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 17:54:20 -!- zazu has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:54:40 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 17:55:16 <|amethyst> also, I see several people missed the bit about "very first line" 17:55:39 yeah 17:55:50 generally people figure this out, they have over a week to do so 17:56:16 <|amethyst> oh, I guess "several was an overstatement... just two 17:56:27 <|amethyst> and a few people who have it both at the beginning and end 17:57:41 so it looks like "aeostnuhaonstuTEAMNAME test" works too 17:57:45 -!- Cerpin has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:57:56 however I think that the regex you mentioned is a good one to use 17:58:26 maybe next tourney I'll try to change the setup to be a bit saner though 17:58:30 <|amethyst> elliptic: sounds like someone has two problems 17:59:11 <|amethyst> ?? Jay-W-Z 17:59:12 I don't have a page labeled Jay-W-Z in my learndb. 18:01:10 -!- Ironfoot has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:02:05 -!- gammafunk has left ##crawl-dev 18:03:09 -!- Whiff has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:06:59 -!- lnr has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:07:04 god damn it my sis wants to use the comp and its tournament time 18:07:22 can everyone else take a break for like 30 minutes 18:08:09 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 18:08:46 -!- ketsa has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:09:55 -!- Pereza0 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:11:25 twelwe: /win 5 18:11:33 we will wait for you, twelwe - promised ;) 18:11:35 well that's not what I meant but it seems also like good advice 18:11:36 -!- klopfdreh has quit [Client Quit] 18:12:26 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 18:12:38 -!- siepu has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:12:44 -!- HellTiger_NB has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:12:51 -!- Foamed has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:14:13 -!- indspenc_ has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 18:14:48 <|amethyst> ebering: BTW, I was just thinking "that clan name is misspelled", but then I looked and DFW mispelled it too 18:15:27 -!- ark__ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:15:54 mispelled 18:15:55 -!- Patashu_ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 18:16:03 <|amethyst> MiSp 18:16:11 spellcaster 18:16:12 I have crowned myself as a greaterminotaur. how do I get added to the sequell entry for posterity? 18:16:18 is there like a process 18:16:24 <|amethyst> !greatrace brannock 18:16:25 brannock is not a species, sorry. 18:16:25 <|amethyst> err 18:16:29 <|amethyst> !greaterrace brannock 18:16:37 -!- MIC132 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:16:38 !greatplayer Brannock_ 18:16:39 er 18:16:43 <|amethyst> I don't know what I'm doing! 18:16:44 Unwon species for Brannock_: Centaur, Deep Dwarf, Deep Elf, Demigod, Demonspawn, Draconian, Felid, Formicid, Gargoyle, Ghoul, Halfling, High Elf, Hill Orc, Human, Kobold, Merfolk, Minotaur, Mummy, Naga, Octopode, Ogre, Spriggan, Tengu, Troll, Vampire, Vine Stalker 18:16:47 !greatplayer Brannock 18:16:54 Brannock is a greatplayer! 18:16:56 1learn add |amethyst 18:16:58 Brannock_: you just add it to the learndb 18:17:06 ??greatrace 18:17:07 greatrace[1/2]: Ce: rast | DD: WalkerBoh | DE: elliptic, johnnyzero | Dg: bmfx, clouded, minmay | Dr: eeviac, bmfx | Ds: elliptic, Vizer, simm, bmfx, HDA, surr | Fe: madreisz | Fo: HDA | Gh: Basil | Gr: bmfx | Ha: elliptic | HE: bmfx, johnnyzero 18:17:07 !greatrace mi brannock 18:17:10 brannock is a greaterminotaur! 18:17:14 ??greatrace[2 18:17:14 greatrace[2/2]: HO: bmfx | Hu: Wahaha, Lasty | Ko: bmfx | Mu: elliptic, minmay | Na: bmfx, Sar | Og: ophanim, Basil | Op: bmfx, Berder | Sp: Yermak | Te: johnnyzero, elliptic | VS: perunasaurus 18:17:22 <|amethyst> the first! 18:17:24 i guess add it before mu 18:17:35 !learn edit greatrace[2] s@Mu@Mi: Brannock | Mu@ 18:17:35 greatrace[2/2]: HO: bmfx | Hu: Wahaha, Lasty | Ko: bmfx | Mi: Brannock | Mu: elliptic, minmay | Na: bmfx, Sar | Og: ophanim, Basil | Op: bmfx, Berder | Sp: Yermak | Te: johnnyzero, elliptic | VS: perunasaurus 18:17:38 woo 18:17:46 Brannock_: grats 18:17:54 a rather bullheaded accomplishment 18:17:55 that took me a solid month and a half to knock out 18:18:01 no, 2 months now 18:19:41 <|amethyst> well crap 18:19:50 -!- abixa has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.1.1] 18:19:55 <|amethyst> @??wolf spider simulacrum 18:19:55 wolf spider simulacrum (12Z) | Spd: 13 | HD: 11 | HP: 23-46 | AC/EV: 1/5 | Dam: 2112(cold:11-32), 1212(cold:11-32) | 07undead, evil | Res: 06magic(14), 12cold+++, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 04fire, 08holy++ | XP: 286 | Sz: Medium | Int: plant. 18:20:07 <|amethyst> that would do it 18:25:32 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 18:25:33 The build has errored. (stone_soup-0.16 - 7e54fe0 #1970 : Steve Melenchuk): http://travis-ci.org/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/builds/54306573 18:25:33 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 18:26:06 rip 18:28:58 -!- muravey has joined ##crawl-dev 18:29:22 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:30:26 03|amethyst02 07* 0.17-a0-78-ga9b69f2: Checkwhite. 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=a9b69f23809f 18:30:26 03|amethyst02 07* 0.17-a0-79-g46900b1: There is no tourney in the land of CI. 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=46900b11297e 18:30:28 rip. 18:30:44 ha 18:30:51 IN THE LAND OF TOURNEY, THERE IS NO CI 18:31:01 AND DARKNESS WAS UPON THE LAND 18:34:40 -!- Patashu has quit [Disconnected by services] 18:34:40 -!- Patashu_ has joined ##crawl-dev 18:34:48 -!- indspenceable has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 18:35:38 got a tool using a dumb name on CBRO 18:35:48 need advice on dealing with it 18:36:35 it's a pretty bad nick. getting complaints from people in ##crawl on it being announced 18:36:36 <|amethyst> you can at least exclude them from being announced on IRC 18:36:47 what is the simplest way to do that? 18:36:58 I've never done that yet 18:37:02 badnicks? 18:37:06 <|amethyst> add them to .badusers in the bot's directory 18:37:32 <|amethyst> currently needs a restart, though that should be pretty easy to fix 18:37:43 ok. I would just delete or rename the account but then I'm worried about a registration arms race 18:37:52 yea. should be easy enough 18:38:09 <|amethyst> the line is a regexp, with implicit ^ $ 18:38:30 <|amethyst> but 18:38:53 <|amethyst> that doesn't help with ghosts, webtiles, tournament pages, etc 18:39:15 <|amethyst> I haven't done anything further than that with bad user names myself 18:40:00 <|amethyst> I'd be inclined to just change the password and IP ban them if they keep up 18:40:15 |amethyst: there are a lot of intentional french misspellings in the book because it is all anglo-diluted quebeqois 18:40:22 <|amethyst> ebering: yeah 18:41:32 -!- Rotatell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:41:40 <|amethyst> ebering: hadn't noticed much of that when I read it N years ago, because I could read even less French than now 18:41:45 -!- Rotatell has joined ##crawl-dev 18:43:31 <|amethyst> !lg * name~~gay s=name 18:43:32 701 games for * (name~~gay): 156x Gaynor, 111x gaymer, 64x GayAbortions, 52x agayblackhusband, 45x BigGayAl, 39x GOGAY, 32x FATANDGAY4PAY2DAY, 28x HYPERIMGAY, 24x gaylorde, 24x XXGAYVEGETA420XX, 18x gayboi, 17x gayweeddad, 15x GayBabyFarts, 14x GayManTrain, 12x UnrefinedGayButtSex, 8x GayTerril, 8x gaybabe, 7x xXGayJesusWeedXx, 7x beautifulgay, 7x Babygays, 2x GAYLORD, GayKing, urugay, Gayspell, g... 18:45:50 possible to rename an account? 18:45:56 <|amethyst> "GayBabyFarts" is Marcel Duchamp levels of brilliance 18:47:44 <|amethyst> johnstein: maybe theoretically: would have to make sure they have no active games, and change dgamelaunch.db and move their rc 18:47:50 <|amethyst> and that doesn't affect old games 18:47:52 <|amethyst> but 18:48:02 -!- reaverb has joined ##crawl-dev 18:48:06 <|amethyst> I don't see much point to renaming the account rather than just deleting it 18:48:14 yea 18:48:18 <|amethyst> or changing its password rather 18:48:28 <|amethyst> deleting just means it can be re-registered 18:48:28 that was going to be my first step 18:48:41 <|amethyst> there's no way to wipe something from history, though 18:48:49 <|amethyst> !lg * name~~rape s=name 18:48:50 158 games for * (name~~rape): 47x ultrapeng, 44x ultrapenguinx, 15x braper, 13x GrapesDay, 9x ogrerape, 8x PiotraperPL, 4x rape69, 4x TamaraPeluso, 3x RuneRaper, 3x grApe, 2x grapevan, drape, RapedByGayDads, GrapeJuiceMan, sourgrapes, RapeVictim, grapedash 18:49:08 <|amethyst> ugh 18:49:12 change password. and wait for them to ask about it. wondering if I should try to contact them first to tell them their account will be effectively locked 18:49:31 so they can start over. but then I realize I'm being way too considerate 18:49:56 <|amethyst> let them post in tavern tech support 18:50:14 <|amethyst> "I can't log into my account RapedByGayDads." 18:50:28 <|amethyst> don't think that will happen 18:50:51 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 18:51:01 haha 18:51:11 <|amethyst> Would be nice though to have a way to shadowban them 18:51:21 <|amethyst> I mean, more completely than .badusers 18:52:04 <|amethyst> users with a matching nick get no milestones or logs, leave no ghosts, and don't show up in lobby/watch 18:52:56 -!- Bloaxor has joined ##crawl-dev 18:53:08 <|amethyst> I wouldn't do that with all my current .badusers, but a lot of them 18:53:12 -!- NeremWorld has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:53:15 Global .badusers would be nice too 18:53:16 <|amethyst> !lg * cszo name~~dick 18:53:17 158. Severedicks the Poker (L4 MiFi), blasted by an orc wizard (puff of flame) on D:2 on 2015-01-21 11:07:49, with 89 points after 1398 turns and 0:04:24. 18:53:21 <|amethyst> !lg * cszo name~~dick s=name 18:53:22 158 games for * (cszo name~~dick): 40x ShittingDickNipples, 40x Severedicks, 28x Dicksmen, 18x DickTracy, 14x DICKS, 6x GOEATADICK, 5x DICKCHINNY, 2x dickins, 2x dicksman, dickandballs, DickStick, AllOfTheDicks 18:53:22 So all the bots could share one 18:53:27 <|amethyst> poor dickins 18:53:32 <|amethyst> and dicktracy 18:53:57 !lg * name~~cock s=name 18:53:59 164 games for * (name~~cock): 37x cockrobink, 37x Cocktail, 32x Cockburn, 16x SperglordFirecock, 14x DJCockFox1998, 5x FatcockFred, 5x yourmomscock, 4x Cockroach, 4x DJFoxCock1998, 2x Firecock, 2x cockblocker, 2x MolotovCockatoo, dickylongcocking, dickasscock, Cockhat, HugeCock69 18:54:19 Such a creative community. 18:54:39 -!- indspenc_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:54:39 <|amethyst> !lg * name~~^xx.*xx$ s=name 18:54:40 128 games for * (name~~^xx.*xx$): 33x XxignaxX, 30x XxWeEdMaN420xX, 24x XXGAYVEGETA420XX, 18x xxxxxx, 7x xXGayJesusWeedXx, 5x xxxx, 2x xXAgeOfPonyXx, 2x xXxfuckyouxXx, 2x xxHITLERxx, xXCeaseofMoralityXx, xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, xXDarkSephirothXx, XxSMOKEWEED420xX, XxxSexygurl420xxX 18:55:04 -!- Bloax has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 18:55:35 <|amethyst> !lg * name~~holocaust s=name 18:55:36 10 games for * (name~~holocaust): 7x HOLOCAUSTDIDNTHAPPEN, 3x holocaustisalie 18:55:57 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 18:57:04 -!- Datul_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:57:25 Webtiles server restarted. 18:57:30 !lg * name~~obama s=name 18:57:31 41 games for * (name~~obama): 35x ObamaCare, 4x obamasinladen, obama, chaosobama 18:57:36 shots fired 18:57:49 !gamesby obamacare 18:57:50 obamacare has played 35 games, between 2013-12-04 23:08:03 and 2013-12-08 07:12:44, won 0, high score 655, total score 2507, total turns 28901, play-time/day 1:25:12, total time 7:06:04. 18:57:55 Damn, no wins 18:57:56 sad. 18:57:58 It's obviously a failure 18:58:12 !gamesby congress 18:58:13 No games for congress. 18:58:23 Hm... 18:59:11 -!- Patashu_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 18:59:45 -!- uglyjohn has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:02:55 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 19:03:22 -!- rep_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:05:49 -!- Gamesmaster1965 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:07:53 chaosobama 19:08:05 -!- the_glow has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:09:48 <|amethyst> !bufg 9534 19:09:50 <|amethyst> !bug 9534 19:09:50 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9534 19:10:18 <|amethyst> It's actually because simulacrum is the last spell in the book 19:12:18 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 19:14:22 -!- indspenceable has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:16:44 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 19:16:44 The build was fixed. (master - 46900b1 #1971 : Neil Moore): http://travis-ci.org/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/builds/54319955 19:16:45 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 19:18:13 03|amethyst02 07* 0.17-a0-80-gde53a18: Let ctrl-f see books' last spells' schools (#9534) 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=de53a1839f29 19:18:14 03|amethyst02 07[stone_soup-0.16] * 0.16.0-5-g717f7e7: Let ctrl-f see books' last spells' schools (#9534) 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=717f7e759c54 19:20:00 -!- Patashu_ has joined ##crawl-dev 19:20:00 -!- Patashu has quit [Disconnected by services] 19:22:19 http://i.imgur.com/CXHzrDO.png idk if this is intentional ( in pizza) 19:22:23 -!- indspenc_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:24:06 <|amethyst> can we pretend it is intentional? :) 19:24:17 <|amethyst> I guess that does mean you can make bad tags 19:24:25 <|amethyst> s/bad/mismatched/ 19:24:27 <|amethyst> but those don't crash the game anymore 19:24:30 -!- coffee` has quit [Quit: coffee`] 19:28:18 -!- rast_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:31:05 I prefer my pizza message 19:31:11 I guess I could make it rainbow too though 19:33:27 <|amethyst> &rc elliptic 19:33:29 http://dobrazupa.org/rcfiles/crawl-0.16/elliptic.rc 19:33:40 Broken functionality of tile_key_repeat_delay and increased delay when autofight 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9536 by Hollow 19:33:40 <|amethyst> heh 19:33:54 -!- Patashu_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:34:03 -!- puddlestomp has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:34:15 <|amethyst> pizza vs royal jelly is silly 19:34:17 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 19:34:26 <|amethyst> royal jelly is slightly more nutrition but takes 3 turns to eat 19:34:40 <|amethyst> I guess I should have lowered that to 1 when I removed the 2s 19:34:41 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 19:34:57 -!- heteroy has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [Firefox 36.0.1/20150305021524]] 19:35:11 -!- indspenceable has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 19:36:10 -!- orneryostrich has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:36:18 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 19:36:19 -!- Crehl has quit [Quit: Killed by a kitten] 19:36:30 <|amethyst> but mauris has given me an idea 19:36:52 -!- oblong has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:37:02 you can have rainbow inscriptions too 19:37:04 it's so good! 19:37:22 -!- Bloaxor has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:38:45 -!- Patashu_ has joined ##crawl-dev 19:38:45 -!- Patashu has quit [Disconnected by services] 19:38:59 -!- Pacra has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:39:17 <|amethyst> hm 19:39:26 <|amethyst> // only non-empty pizza strings 19:39:55 <|amethyst> I kind of feel that special case isn't important enough to justify not just making this a LIST_OPTION 19:42:08 -!- Patashu_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:42:18 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 19:42:29 <|amethyst> okay, pizzas upgraded 19:42:34 why can you be mesmerized by more than one siren at once? 19:42:37 <|amethyst> pizza = fnord 19:42:41 prove it 19:42:45 prove the pizza buff 19:42:54 <|amethyst> only on my account, sorry 19:43:13 <|amethyst> but mauris buffed them greatly 19:43:17 that rc file elliptic has is offensive to me 19:43:53 -!- orneryostrich has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 19:44:03 -!- tingol4 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:47:14 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 19:47:39 don`t understand why you gotta hate on pizza like that 19:47:46 <|amethyst> PF: check %git, it's funny 19:48:38 I'm reading through the logs, just saw http://i.imgur.com/CXHzrDO.png and it's amazing 19:48:47 %git 19:48:47 07|amethyst02 * 0.17-a0-80-gde53a18: Let ctrl-f see books' last spells' schools (#9534) 10(34 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=de53a1839f29 19:48:56 good hack 19:49:20 |amethyst: ah, I didn't realize that LIST_OPTION existed 19:49:25 that's why I didn't implement pizza as one 19:49:31 <|amethyst> aha 19:51:06 !won qw t 19:51:07 qw (t) has won once in 6 games (16.67%): 1xDDBe 19:51:32 I also think beef jerky vs. meat ration is silly similar to royal jelly vs. pizza? I guess the differance in nutrition there is larger. 19:51:52 <|amethyst> reaverb: yeah, significantly 19:51:57 well beef jerky is minotaurs 19:52:00 that's important!! 19:52:13 <|amethyst> reaverb: meat ration is over 3x the nutrition of beef jerky 19:52:44 <|amethyst> whereas royal jelly is 33% more nutrition than pizza 19:53:21 ¡learn add PleasingFungus Does not have psychic powers (c.f. 9534) 19:53:22 Okay, not adding PleasingFungus => Does not have psychic powers (c.f. 9534) 19:53:31 very close to a !learn 19:54:01 hm, lotta people having websocket issues with crawl.s-z.org ("websocket connection was closed", persisting until browser restart 19:54:01 ) 19:54:10 <|amethyst> hrm 19:54:18 including me, right now 19:54:20 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:55:09 -!- indspenc_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:55:24 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 19:55:29 browser restart didn't fix it this time (did earlier); I'm at a loss. 19:55:34 -!- Cerpin has joined ##crawl-dev 19:55:55 -!- delior has joined ##crawl-dev 19:56:28 <|amethyst> oh, same here 19:56:32 <|amethyst> let me restart webtiles 19:56:40 <|amethyst> oh 19:56:52 <|amethyst> reloading again fixed it for me 19:57:10 not for me 19:57:28 tried refreshing, hard-refreshing, closing & reopening tab, closing & reopening browser. will test new browser 19:57:42 no joy 19:58:07 -!- delior has left ##crawl-dev 19:58:21 <|amethyst> hmm 19:58:31 <|amethyst> weird, getting a lot of "no route to host" 20:01:11 -!- Patashu_ has joined ##crawl-dev 20:01:11 -!- Patashu has quit [Disconnected by services] 20:04:22 <|amethyst> hm, why is server.py's disk write so high? 20:06:47 -!- MgDark has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [Firefox 36.0.1/20150305021524]] 20:08:55 -!- nicolae- has joined ##crawl-dev 20:09:45 -!- SegFaultAX has quit [Excess Flood] 20:10:15 <|amethyst> the webtiles log is not being helpful 20:11:04 -!- reaverb has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20:12:27 !lg * t ddbe won min=dur 20:12:27 2. qw the Executioner (L27 DDBe of Trog), escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2015-03-14 00:48:31, with 1961393 points after 52261 turns and 0:50:50. 20:12:30 thought so 20:12:44 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 20:12:51 !lm lootfeel 20:12:52 51498. [2015-03-13 23:01:11] gammafunk the Caller (L1 HESu) began the quest for the Orb on turn 0. (D:1) 20:12:57 hrm 20:13:27 !lg * name=lootfeel 20:13:28 No games for * (name=lootfeel). 20:14:11 you are not allowed to lootfeel. 20:14:22 no it's an adjective 20:14:22 <|amethyst> hm, my browser says "WebSocket is already in CLOSING or CLOSED state" 20:14:24 not a verb 20:14:26 <|amethyst> which doesn't help much 20:14:33 gammafunk: this is not the kind of thing I care about 20:14:35 or I guess it's a noun 20:14:43 <|amethyst> oh 20:14:45 PleasingFungus: but you like writing things! 20:14:45 <|amethyst> here we go 20:14:46 you are not allowed to feel the lootfeel 20:14:58 <|amethyst> "msgs":[connection_closed('The maximum number of connections has been reached, sorry :(');] 20:15:00 I write things callously. 20:15:04 nobody needs to distinguish between parts of speech anyway 20:15:07 !kw t 20:15:08 Built-in: t => rstart>2015021320 rtime<2015022920 ((cv=0.16|0.16-a)) 20:15:09 verbs? nouns? who cards 20:15:10 .crushed t 20:15:11 No games for * (cv>0.14 ikiller=octopode_crusher t). 20:15:18 oh 20:15:20 !killratio vashnia * t 20:15:21 .crushed 20:15:21 138. igloomaster the Executioner (L27 DDBe of Trog), blasted by an octopode crusher (iron shot) on Zig:17 on 2015-03-14 01:05:35, with 653705 points after 50795 turns and 10:53:45. 20:15:23 vashnia wins 4.761% of battles against * (t). 20:15:24 <|amethyst> I guess a bug in the client (or just something missing) means that message isn't being displayed 20:15:25 -!- indspenceable has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:15:30 !lg * t cikiller=a_seraph 20:15:30 No games for * (t cikiller=a_seraph). 20:15:31 shame that wasn't tourney 20:15:53 |amethyst: is that fixable? 20:16:06 or are there actual hardware limits that make it unwise to tweak the limit up 20:16:13 <|amethyst> we'll see :) 20:16:16 OK! 20:16:18 -!- patheticliltramp has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:16:20 let me know, I'd like to play my mans :) 20:16:20 <|amethyst> the limit was 200 btw 20:16:23 huh 20:16:41 <|amethyst> I have 98 players right now according to dgl watch menu 20:17:12 -!- MrPlanck has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:18:03 -!- Orph is now known as Orphic 20:18:30 -!- Monkaria has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:19:15 Webtiles server restarted. 20:19:43 Ramc (L7 FeCj) (D:5) 20:19:49 <|amethyst> we'll see how it holds up with 500 20:19:59 <|amethyst> !crashlog ramc 20:20:00 4. Ramc, XL7 FeCj, T:6202 (milestone): http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/Ramc/crash-Ramc-20150314-011938.txt 20:20:12 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:20:54 <|amethyst> looks like a message buffer overflow, probably because of the webtiles restart 20:21:07 welp 20:21:18 unrelated, but here's a question that might be a bug 20:21:20 " I actually have another sort-of-relevant question about this. Online the default option is for 5 on the numpad to rest "until mana is restored, hp is restored, 100 turns have passed, or an enemy is seen, whichever comes first." However the local install default is for 5 on the numpad to wait only a single turn. I have looked at my online rc and my local rc but don't see anything about this... 20:21:21 ...anywhere. How do I change the behavior on my local machine to act the same way as online? " 20:21:35 <|amethyst> tiles or console? 20:21:51 <|amethyst> try toggling numlock 20:22:20 <|amethyst> but that won't necessarily work 20:22:42 <|amethyst> for me, in console, kp enter works only with one numlock setting 20:23:05 I'll send them that 20:23:10 <|amethyst> I can never remember which one, because I have my numlock light showing network activity 20:23:19 haha 20:23:26 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 20:24:02 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:24:09 -!- pikaro has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:26:34 how do people get those ads to popup where it says ``be a boulder beetle`` ??? 20:26:43 twelwe: no 20:26:52 -!- Patashu_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20:26:59 you don't deserve secret knowledge, twelwe 20:27:10 i want to set it so it says follow me on twitter and like and subscribe 20:27:13 <|amethyst> http://kamenrider.wikia.com/wiki/Boulder_Beetle 20:27:33 not letting you rip it off and put it in pizza tornado 20:27:40 can`t click that i`m at my browser limit 20:28:24 <|amethyst> twelwe runs http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_XP_editions#Starter_Edition 20:28:26 maybe it's already in pizza tornado and twelwe is making sure no one stole his innovations 20:28:30 &rc gammafunk 20:28:32 http://dobrazupa.org/rcfiles/crawl-0.16/gammafunk.rc 20:28:58 gonna search for data after i clear this dumb broswer poker game 20:29:27 <|amethyst> twelwe: you can find him in San Francisco, in Mark Twain's cave 20:29:33 if I see an unsponsered user copying my code, there will be serious repercussions 20:29:39 Trunk pre-made builds not updating 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9537 by Arrhythmia 20:29:47 pre-made? 20:29:53 oh 20:30:00 <|amethyst> oh 20:30:07 <|amethyst> probably that repo is pointing to git:// 20:30:11 yep 20:30:29 ever heard of a little thing called freedom of speech.... 20:31:05 I'm in the roguelike tea party 20:31:21 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:34:03 <|amethyst> I'm in the text adventure not-tea party 20:34:10 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:34:21 I played a text adventure once 20:34:30 did you. 20:34:31 did you really. 20:34:37 what was your high score 20:34:38 ya 20:35:04 -!- indspenc_ has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20:36:05 hey gammafunk i don`t think you have anythign to worry about none of this shit makes any sense to me 20:36:30 -!- mkbehr has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:36:58 <|amethyst> play "Shade" 20:37:42 yall got some cool options like show_inventory_weights = true 20:38:24 gammafunk: check out the tournament high score that just happened 20:38:25 <|amethyst> Slouching Towards Bedlam is my favourite (not that I've played anything from the last 10 years), but probably Shade is better 20:38:53 -!- ibar has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 20:39:03 n1k: tailsmasher? 20:39:08 tailsmasher, huh 20:39:23 TALISMASHER 20:39:25 not tail 20:39:34 that's pre nice, although not a terribly uncommon score 20:39:37 where can i see the tourney scores. you can tell i'm very bad about being part of the community. 20:39:49 really strong this early in the tournament for sure, though 20:39:49 <|amethyst> !lg * / score>=48082360 20:39:49 17/4054959 games for *: N=17/4054959 (0.00%) 20:39:54 I'm just amazed that someone could do that in 3 hours so early on the first day 20:40:06 highest DD score ever 20:40:15 <|amethyst> gammafunk: I think #17 of all time is terribly uncommon :) 20:40:20 uh 20:40:25 it kind of goes without saying that "not terribly uncommon" means relative to other high scores :p 20:40:50 yeah really that was highest DD? 20:40:52 that's surprising 20:41:16 <|amethyst> !lg * s=crace x=+max(score) 20:41:22 4054963 games for *: 112361x Naga [65369553], 60208x Vine Stalker [65223715], 371996x Deep Elf [57282634], 203622x Spriggan [54334266], 176276x Mummy [52436210], 255478x Minotaur [52426908], 444354x Demonspawn [48318831], 123962x Troll [48094081], 69816x Deep Dwarf [48082360], 28060x Lava Orc [47803653], 148483x Merfolk [46793330], 167270x Hill Orc [43943053], 118998x Gargoyle [43146117], 103828x ... 20:41:32 no. 17 is not that high, no 20:41:36 the highscore streaking thread inspired that obviously 20:42:01 pretty unusual to have such a score so early in a tournament, that's for sure 20:42:07 it may be the best tournament high score in some time 20:42:18 <|amethyst> !hs * tall 20:42:20 I recall 4tharra did a really good one in 0.14 or maybe 0.15 20:42:41 <|amethyst> oh, right, tall is slow 20:42:51 but I don't think it was quite so good as that 20:42:55 492482. TALISMASHER the Bringer of Light (L27 DDBe of The Shining One), escaped with the Orb and 15 runes on 2015-03-14 01:05:37, with 48082360 points after 30152 turns and 2:53:35. 20:42:58 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 20:43:03 <|amethyst> that's the best 20:43:10 !hs * tall -2 20:43:25 probably not a big margin on no. 2 20:43:36 at least I think... 20:43:47 492483/492484. tlatlagkaus the Slayer (L27 VSBe of Makhleb), escaped with the Orb and 15 runes on 2014-09-07 14:54:31, with 42270554 points after 34423 turns and 5:40:49. 20:43:48 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 20:43:49 The build passed. (stone_soup-0.16 - 717f7e7 #1973 : Neil Moore): http://travis-ci.org/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/builds/54323273 20:43:49 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 20:44:05 pretty good margin 20:44:05 yeah, significant improvement 20:44:21 but 4k +/- at around 30 20:44:26 -!- orneryostrich has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20:44:26 around 20 that'd be nuts 20:44:43 def. surprised that DD wasn't better already though 20:45:21 there just aren't really much DD in the top 20 at all 20:45:54 -!- ghostter has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:45:55 -!- TyZebra has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:46:08 man, a Tr has a better score, that's weird 20:46:35 and a Ds, even weirder 20:46:47 ah yeah, Ds with claws 3 20:46:50 so a better Tr 20:47:17 the question is--who is this mystery player 20:47:29 -!- Patashu has quit [Disconnected by services] 20:47:29 -!- Patashu_ has joined ##crawl-dev 20:47:38 TALISMASHER seems like a dieselrobin account maybe? 20:48:15 n1k: yeah that'll probably stand the tournament, but pretty recent games have been won <30k, so it could get beaten! 20:48:30 maybe by a certain high elf fanatic 20:48:33 oh no 20:48:37 HE ain't going near 30k 20:48:49 not with that attitude! 20:48:49 35 and I'm ecstatic 20:48:56 DE yes!, not HE 20:49:16 had a good one going and then vashnia!!! 20:49:18 -!- read has quit [Quit: bye.] 20:50:02 Tile "brackets" not getting redrawn properly. 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9538 by Hollow 20:51:06 !killratio vashnia * t 20:51:08 vashnia wins 4.166% of battles against * (t). 20:53:40 <|amethyst> hm 20:53:54 <|amethyst> that bug I bet is related to the windows slowness 20:54:00 <|amethyst> that some people have seen 20:54:14 <|amethyst> it kind of sounds like the behaviour before the fix/workaround 20:58:06 -!- indspenc_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 20:58:15 <|amethyst> gammafunk: you did just 32-bit builds, or both 32 and 64? 20:58:17 -!- LexAckson has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:58:23 -!- Bloax has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:58:29 !lg * name~~shit s=name 20:58:30 1338 games for * (name~~shit): 805x ShittingDickNipples, 252x SomethingShitHole, 89x DogShitOnMyToe, 87x xSHITLORDx, 35x shitty, 21x LittleShit, 14x Nagaisshit, 9x ShitSucker, 8x GrithokIsShit, 4x Matsushita, 3x holyshit, 2x Shit, 2x DaShite, 2x Shitstorm, PissHitler, Bullshit, ShittyWizard, Dipshit, Shitgolem 20:58:38 <|amethyst> gammafunk: for Windows, that is 20:58:41 !lg * won name~~shit s=name 20:58:43 4 games for * (won name~~shit): xSHITLORDx, HOLYSHIT, ShittingDickNipples, DogShitOnMyToe 20:58:48 funny how that works out 20:59:21 <|amethyst> gammafunk: I think I saw a suggestion that the windows slowdown (which 9538 sounds like) could be related to the 32-bit compat layer 21:01:25 <|amethyst> gammafunk: also, realised I didn't say it yet, thanks for organising the release :) 21:01:52 <|amethyst> and everyone else of course! 21:01:57 -!- gammafunk has quit [Quit: leaving] 21:03:16 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 21:05:47 you're welcome 21:06:13 i had nothing to do with but i saw all that unclaimed credit just lying around and snagged it up 21:07:11 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 21:08:21 -!- Lasty1 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:09:22 -!- tgcid9999 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 21:10:17 -!- Patashu_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:15:31 Game crashes after initial loading screen 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9539 by varren 21:15:46 that one's for grunt 21:17:04 -!- Sharkman1231 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 21:18:08 -!- Akitten_Homura has joined ##crawl-dev 21:18:32 -!- indspenceable has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:21:26 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 21:25:29 -!- dustinm`_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 21:26:31 -!- FierceOmelette has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 21:26:42 -!- djinni has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 21:26:44 is anyone other than curve guy opionated on my rot changes? 21:27:26 what rot changes 21:27:44 it doesn't seem like an obviously bad idea 21:28:24 nicolae-: healing will pay for rot before it cures damage 21:28:36 ah, right 21:28:43 i saw that and then for some reason thought it was in trunk and not a branch 21:29:05 it's only on a branch because we're in a feature freeze until after the tourney 21:29:06 -!- muravey has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 21:29:11 -!- Patashu has quit [Disconnected by services] 21:29:11 -!- Patashu_ has joined ##crawl-dev 21:29:41 does that trivialize rot too much? 21:30:39 it sort of does the opposite... 21:30:47 Closing the door on ctrl+click is no more 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9541 by Hollow 21:30:47 Staves improperly marked for autopickup when "unknown magical staves" unchecked in \ menu 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9540 by tedric 21:30:59 it changes the role. 21:31:13 Rot right now is like a weird version of the frailty mutation set 21:31:48 You probably won't die from rot because if you're at 10/90 (100) it's the same as being at 10 / 90 21:32:09 With my change, 10 / 90 (100) is a LOT scarier than 10 / 90, because your next !HW might do essentially nothing 21:32:09 um 21:32:31 the right comparison is probably being at 10 / 90 (100) vs 20 / 100... 21:32:34 -!- hy-on-github has joined ##crawl-dev 21:33:05 ah ok, that explains it more. 21:33:11 PleasingFungus: your math looks off 21:33:27 how much does !hw heal on average? 21:33:47 * bh forgets 21:33:57 I'm comparing "the hp you'd be at without rot" to "the hp you're at with" 21:34:01 assuming constant damage 21:34:12 did your update affect non !hw /hw !cure sources? 21:34:21 i.e. trog's hand 21:34:39 vamp 21:34:54 those don't cure rot, do they? 21:35:10 my patch updates all the paths through unrot_player 21:35:27 -!- djinni has joined ##crawl-dev 21:35:27 -!- FiftyNine has quit [] 21:35:29 oh ok. it's clear I haven't read the patch well at all :/ 21:36:12 -!- dustinm` has joined ##crawl-dev 21:36:27 back later 21:37:04 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 21:38:56 -!- indspenc_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 21:39:03 someone needs to update the download page 21:40:11 also, .tar.xz for the tarball download really? 21:40:39 chequers: I'm not sure who other than napkin can update the new site 21:41:21 <|amethyst> I think no one else, given that the file is owned by root :) 21:41:39 -!- Lawman0 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:41:46 doh 21:44:58 -!- hy-on-github has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:46:16 -!- Ququman has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:46:33 -!- tcsc has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 21:48:28 -!- AreBrandon has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 21:49:22 -!- nicolae- has left ##crawl-dev 21:50:46 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 21:54:04 -!- Patashu has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:54:14 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 21:54:16 -!- Patashu_ has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 21:58:33 -!- indspenceable has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 21:59:11 -!- sky_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:04:16 chequers: how is it determined which games to show on the front page? when I refresh I usually seem to have 4/6 be the same 22:04:36 -!- Whistling_Bread has joined ##crawl-dev 22:05:38 5/6 currently 22:05:53 and just the last one changes (and they move around) 22:06:13 -!- Cerpin has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:06:36 elliptic: it isn't random, it tries to choose "interesting" games 22:06:55 if you want to read the js it's line64+ of index.htm 22:06:56 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 22:06:59 -!- WalkerBoh has joined ##crawl-dev 22:07:02 right, I was wondering what sort of measure of "interesting" it was using 22:07:05 okay, will do, thanks 22:07:10 basically, games with spectators, then non-idle, then anything else 22:07:21 it tries to fill the six slots drawing from those pools in order 22:07:32 <|amethyst> oh 22:08:22 mostly when I was testing there'd be 1-2 games with spectators tops, so you would get high churn. But right now I think the tourney is throwing up enough spectator games that makes churn very low 22:08:39 <|amethyst> maybe randomise the order of the candidates? 22:08:40 I guess qw is always there because it is never idle 22:08:53 |amethyst: it is 22:09:02 <|amethyst> oh, hm 22:09:15 or does this count console spectators too? 22:09:15 but if there are, eg, 5 games with spectators, they'll always be selected 22:09:17 <|amethyst> oh, missed that, it's lower than I was looking 22:09:31 it counts whatever as spectators tat each server's dgl-status returns 22:09:57 I don't realy understand how cross-console/tile spectator stuff works 22:10:11 doesn't, really 22:10:16 oh, so probably it doesn't count webtiles spectators? 22:10:19 (webtiles-changes servers will return number of tiles spectators, I added code for that a few weeks ago) 22:10:24 ah 22:10:51 -!- ClawlessVictory has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:11:40 -!- HDA has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:11:56 i definitely think that game-selection bahviour could be improved, fwiw 22:12:08 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]] 22:12:19 -!- SegFaultAX has quit [Excess Flood] 22:12:19 sure, I was just curious 22:12:21 not even a little attached to the js I frankensteined into being :) 22:12:42 chequers confirmed to be Dr Frankenstein 22:13:00 -!- Patashu has quit [Disconnected by services] 22:13:00 -!- Patashu_ has joined ##crawl-dev 22:13:04 frankenstein was the monster, bozo 22:13:09 wait, 22:13:09 -!- bitcoinbastard has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:13:12 i'm the bozo :( 22:14:22 fr change crawl so I don't need to recompile it when making changes 22:15:31 <|amethyst> get ccache so it doesn't take so long :) 22:16:33 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 22:19:52 -!- indspenceable has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:22:16 -!- indspenc_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:22:46 -!- ythm has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:23:27 !seen edlothiol| 22:23:28 Sorry chequers, I haven't seen edlothiol|. 22:23:29 !seen edlothiol 22:23:30 I last saw edlothiol at Fri Mar 13 22:04:44 2015 UTC (5h 18m 46s ago) quitting, saying 'Remote host closed the connection'. 22:27:16 !tell edlothiol I think Tornado StaticFileHandler subclassing procedure changed in Tornado 4+ which breaks webtiles code ("ERROR: Uncaught exception GET /gamedata/cb05e1a30f9c9a1e0fb23853c2c6ee3f1b0421ad/player.png (::1)") -- any feedback on how to fix it? 22:27:17 chequers: OK, I'll let edlothiol know. 22:27:29 !tell edlothiol I think this ticket has some more info https://github.com/tornadoweb/tornado/issues/826 22:27:30 chequers: OK, I'll let edlothiol know. 22:27:31 AHA 22:27:40 I have been wondering where that error originated from 22:27:50 the tornado one? 22:27:52 (I knew it was Tornado 4 but I didn't know the specific cause) 22:28:16 you can kinda-not-really fix it by prepending the last line of the get method with 'return' 22:28:25 -!- Calisca2 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:28:31 but I think the proper approach is to not override get as per the github ticket 22:29:02 is there a way to find the most people online on a server at one time? 22:29:19 ??lg 22:29:20 listgame[1/5]: !lg command displays info about past games. The manual is available here: https://github.com/greensnark/dcss_sequell/blob/master/docs/listgame.md 22:29:25 -!- indspenceable has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:29:50 johnstein: count this list, perhaps https://crawl.develz.org/watch.htm 22:30:00 oh, that has no source column 22:30:10 chequers: I mean ever 22:30:11 count this json :) https://crawl.develz.org/dgl-status.json 22:30:12 on a server 22:30:22 -!- Lawman0 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:30:41 ah. no records like that are kept by the server itself, at least. And there's no milestone for starting/stopping a session, so sequell wouldn't 22:30:58 yea, that's what I'm wondering. 22:31:06 Grunt: i'm going away now, if you look into that problem ping me anything you find 22:31:14 eh 22:31:22 I'm not really planning to look into it 22:31:37 thought so, just making sure 22:33:45 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 22:34:46 -!- jackrogers has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:35:14 -!- SomeStupidGuy has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 22:36:42 -!- Patashu has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:37:00 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 22:37:22 -!- Patashu_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 22:37:46 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:39:54 -!- indspenceable has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 22:40:18 in lua scripts, there's some turn delay parameter, right? 22:42:12 !serverstats t0.16 22:42:13 1433 games for * (t0.16): 583x cszo [157], 374x cao [151], 269x cbro [48], 82x cxc [24], 41x clan [17], 29x cwz [11], 18x cpo [7], 18x cdo [7], 19x lld [6] 22:42:20 ooh, third place! 22:42:39 bh: do you mean bots and do you mean a millisecond delay 22:42:48 bh: or do you mean something totally different 22:43:26 cbro lobby looks like an average day on czso 22:43:43 ya 22:43:52 !serverstats t0.16 !@bot 22:43:53 1307 games for * (t0.16 !@bot): 570x cszo [158], 376x cao [152], 153x cbro [47], 82x cxc [24], 41x clan [17], 30x cwz [12], 18x cpo [7], 18x cdo [7], 19x lld [6] 22:44:01 -!- mauris has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 22:44:37 -!- Yermak has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:46:08 !lg * t !@bot s=name 22:46:09 1317 games for * (t !@bot): 46x SirSamVimes, 29x Hurricos, 23x BLOAX, 18x TALISMASHER, 17x raskol, 14x mauris, 12x Oroborous, 12x afbhh, 12x SevenDeadlySins, 12x Palladion, 11x platinum, 11x twelwe, 11x Xavori, 11x suboptimal, 11x mono9, 10x simm, 10x Sharkman1231, 10x obelus, 10x waylon531, 10x ythm, 10x kingalok, 9x Charmandara, 9x rgaf, 9x onget, 9x BaileofHey, 9x Glidergun, 9x lawman0, 9x Grim... 22:46:13 heh 22:49:36 elliptic: yes, a millisecond delay 22:49:53 I'm soliciting contributions for lua scripts to be used to generate crawl demo reel footage 22:50:49 &rc qw 22:50:50 http://dobrazupa.org/rcfiles/crawl-0.16/qw.rc 22:51:27 bh: yeah, qw just calls crawl.delay(100) each action 22:51:40 -!- mamgar has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:52:03 A: iridescent scales 1, blurry vision 1, clumsy 1, deformed body, dopey 2, low 22:52:06 mp 1, shaggy fur 1, slow healing 3, spit poison 1, weak 1, sustain abilities, 22:52:09 MP-powered wands 1 22:52:12 amazing gw 22:53:37 -!- Krakhan has quit [Disconnected by services] 22:53:39 -!- Krakhan|2 is now known as Krakhan 22:53:40 -!- Krakhan has quit [Changing host] 22:54:23 do the bots have fear programmed into them? 22:54:39 yes 22:54:47 who runs gw? 22:54:59 * bh should make bw 22:55:15 it'll be qw until it has the orb and is ready to win, then it ^Qyes's 22:55:16 someone on SA used to say you will experience fear: the best emotion 22:55:30 johnstein: I do 22:55:35 -!- Patashu has quit [Disconnected by services] 22:55:35 -!- Patashu_ has joined ##crawl-dev 22:55:42 grunt w bush 22:58:04 grunt, any chance to slightly increase the time delay or whatever you guys use to lower the impact on the server? server is running near 0.90 CPU and looks like gw is one of the hotter processes. 22:58:53 Grunt: just optimize crawl 22:59:03 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 22:59:15 <|amethyst> probably should try building the servers with LTO 22:59:28 <|amethyst> except the thing gammafunk found where that doesn't work on Debian 22:59:35 -!- indspenc_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:59:36 johnstein: sec 22:59:38 -!- Sovek has quit [Quit: Not that there is anything wrong with that] 23:00:12 johnstein: I just doubled the throttle delay; let me know if gw is still getting out of control 23:00:41 Grunt: ty! nothing was out of control, but I think t0.16 will test the current cbro server limit :P 23:00:49 -!- JoeltCo has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 23:01:07 <|amethyst> Grunt: CDO has like two players if you don't care about webtiles spectators :) 23:02:07 <|amethyst> er, hm 23:02:24 <|amethyst> oh, right 23:02:34 -!- Patashu_ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 23:04:13 http://imgur.com/KRJ09pO 23:04:37 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 23:04:37 grunt, looks lower. but the more I look at this, I see two other games at around the same level, so it may have been ok already 23:04:44 oh 23:04:49 guess when the tourney started! 23:04:53 maybe I'll set it to 150 (was 100, next 200) 23:05:00 (er currently 200) 23:06:09 well dammit, I really don't know the best way to diagnose this 23:06:17 top and ps -ef show different things 23:06:21 and I know that's as intended 23:07:50 -!- Whistling_Bread has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:09:27 -!- Pacra has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 23:09:39 -!- alefury has quit [] 23:10:59 ??sacrifice 23:10:59 sacrifice[1/3]: Pray on a square with items to attempt to sacrifice them to your god. To avoid sacrificing items you might want to keep they can be inscribed with !p or !*. One inscribed item will protect all the items on that square. 23:13:30 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:13:53 * bh wonders if he'll get zero or many contributions for greenlight 23:14:03 hey Wensley 23:15:27 <|amethyst> I don't know if bots playing is going to be the most exciting thing 23:16:07 <|amethyst> I'm also not sure what you mean by "reproducible"... you want people to run with -seed ? 23:16:42 |amethyst: it isn't so much bots playing as I need a script/scenario I can re-run 23:16:52 yo bh 23:16:54 some kind of stress test...? 23:17:03 <|amethyst> oh, dlua too 23:17:19 which could be as simple as using lua to setup the stuff you want, then just hammering out some player specified actions 23:18:51 <|amethyst> !lm * kmap~~exploding -tv 23:18:52 No milestones for * (kmap~~exploding). 23:18:59 <|amethyst> !lg * kmap~~exploding -tv 23:19:00 No games for * (kmap~~exploding). 23:19:01 <|amethyst> !lg * map~~exploding -tv 23:19:02 76. ashcream, XL5 OgHu, T:2606 requested for FooTV: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 23:19:21 |amethyst: I hadn't thought of using ttyrecs 23:19:43 -!- Patashu_ has joined ##crawl-dev 23:19:43 -!- Patashu has quit [Disconnected by services] 23:19:51 -!- indspenceable has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 23:20:18 <|amethyst> aww, didn't render too well 23:20:25 though they won't work because we need tiles 23:20:28 <|amethyst> I guess that's what happen when you die in the middle of an explosion 23:20:35 <|amethyst> oh 23:20:53 <|amethyst> we're not putting the console version on steam? :) 23:20:56 are ushabti just catlobes with draining clouds 23:21:09 <|amethyst> @??ushabti 23:21:09 ushabti (078) | Spd: 8 | HD: 7 | HP: 39-52 | AC/EV: 9/6 | Dam: 30 | 11non-living, 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, fighter, evil, see invisible | Res: 13magic(immune), 05fire, 02cold, 10elec, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy | XP: 258 | Sp: death rattle (2d4) [11!AM, 06!sil] | Sz: little | Int: normal. 23:21:11 they also make loud noises 23:21:24 <|amethyst> no, they're slow 23:21:35 <|amethyst> @??catlobe 23:21:35 unknown monster: "catlobe" 23:21:35 @??catoblepas 23:21:35 catoblepas (06Y) | Spd: 10 | HD: 14 | HP: 62-93 | AC/EV: 10/2 | Dam: 36 | Res: 06magic(100) | XP: 938 | Sp: petrifying cloud (2d6) [11!AM, 06!sil] | Sz: Big | Int: animal. 23:21:43 <|amethyst> (recent change) 23:22:00 |amethyst: does desktop tiles have an ascii mode? 23:22:21 <|amethyst> sadly, no 23:22:36 <|amethyst> could make a tileset 23:33:07 -!- Icadius has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:33:44 -!- tcsc has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 23:39:26 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 23:40:17 -!- indspenc_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 23:41:49 -!- Nerem has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 23:42:56 -!- Patashu_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 23:45:22 -!- qoala has joined ##crawl-dev 23:47:06 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:47:14 -!- caleba has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:48:32 -!- Hocus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:58:09 -!- Brannock_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 23:58:14 -!- allbefore has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds]