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they aren't interesting after d:4-5 or so 01:40:14 minmay: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 01:45:12 -!- Krakhan has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:46:34 -!- Vizer has quit [Quit: bye] 01:49:14 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 01:51:17 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Quit: Connection reset by pier.] 01:57:43 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 01:59:22 -!- siepu has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:01:07 -!- simmarine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:01:22 -!- thedrillkeeper has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:08:43 -!- cptwinky has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:12:35 -!- ly^ is now known as Ly^ 02:18:39 -!- comebackshane has joined ##crawl-dev 02:21:36 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 02:23:24 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.16-a0-4092-gb8933cd (34) 02:25:08 OH DANNY BOYYYYY 02:27:55 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 02:28:25 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 02:29:57 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 02:30:24 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 02:31:17 -!- comebackshane has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:34:14 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 02:37:10 -!- Menche has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 02:42:39 -!- miz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:43:20 -!- miz has joined ##crawl-dev 02:47:59 -!- miz has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 02:53:39 -!- Pacra has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 02:57:30 -!- cptwinky has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:03:31 -!- Wolfechu has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 03:04:41 -!- vissborg has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:05:33 -!- mopl has quit [*.net *.split] 03:05:33 -!- Spatz has quit [*.net *.split] 03:05:33 -!- MDvedh has quit [*.net *.split] 03:05:33 -!- tgcid9999 has quit [*.net *.split] 03:05:33 -!- Xenobreeder has quit [*.net *.split] 03:05:33 -!- fearitself has quit [*.net *.split] 03:05:33 -!- plantmann has quit [*.net *.split] 03:05:33 -!- hong has quit [*.net *.split] 03:07:05 -!- ekix has quit [Quit: leaving] 03:08:42 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:14:53 -!- cptwinky has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 03:27:10 -!- siepu has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 03:28:51 -!- Patashu has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:29:10 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 03:30:06 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 03:31:13 -!- ontoclasm1 has joined ##crawl-dev 03:32:57 -!- Whistling_Bread has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:33:02 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 03:41:20 -!- Adeon has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:43:40 -!- Adeon has joined ##crawl-dev 03:45:19 -!- Adeon has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:47:49 -!- Adeon has joined ##crawl-dev 03:48:24 -!- Bcadren has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 04:20:17 -!- trckry has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:24:44 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 04:26:45 -!- Whistling_Bread has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:27:29 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 04:33:59 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 04:43:39 -!- Evablue is now known as evablue142 04:45:43 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:50:29 -!- CacoS has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:04:40 -!- Patashu has quit [Disconnected by services] 05:04:40 -!- Patashu_ has joined ##crawl-dev 05:15:28 -!- siepu has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 05:22:41 -!- Pacra has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 05:36:36 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 05:41:51 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 05:50:53 -!- NeremWorld has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 06:03:08 !tell gammafunk wow, what are my plans for ground item interactions? :P 06:03:08 MarvinPA: OK, I'll let gammafunk know. 06:06:18 !tell gammafunk i guess i've talked about angband's interface for using/targeting items on the ground, and there was also elliptic's suggestion to have a "burdened" state when carrying 52 items 06:06:18 MarvinPA: OK, I'll let gammafunk know. 06:14:40 -!- alefury has joined ##crawl-dev 06:15:25 -!- zxc2321 has joined ##crawl-dev 06:15:48 -!- Patashu_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 06:17:30 -!- zxc232 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 06:19:07 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:33:45 that was my suggestion? I forget :P 06:34:46 being able to use/target items on the ground would be pretty great though 06:37:40 -!- edlothiol has joined ##crawl-dev 06:38:45 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 06:41:00 -!- evablue142 has quit [Quit: evablue142] 06:44:52 -!- Utis has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 06:47:41 -!- ontoclasm1 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 06:50:45 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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Use !messages to read it. 10:02:42 the not-so-triumphant return, this commit is missing an important detail 10:03:12 so probably reverting it doesn't violate feature freeze since it's just cleaning up dead code rather than actually changing anything? :P 10:03:26 (the blowgun is still "nogen") 10:04:05 -!- heteroy has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 10:04:13 -!- heteroy_ is now known as heteroy 10:07:49 -!- JaGGedTK has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 10:13:02 -!- CacoS has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:16:17 hahaha 10:16:35 oops! 10:18:12 it seems like a bugfix to me 10:18:31 would you be sad if the blowgun were removed again without that change ever seeing the light of day? :P i still don't think it makes for a very interesting unrand really 10:19:00 i'm not convinced by blowgun stabbing in general personally, i guess 10:19:11 not too sad, no 10:22:10 -!- Schwer-Muta has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 10:24:47 huh, there's code for adding launch hooks to run on unrands 10:25:37 -!- CcS has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 10:27:16 -!- mrwooster has joined ##crawl-dev 10:28:23 03wheals02 07* 0.16-a0-4093-g160c580: Disallow reaching with clubs (nicolae-). 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=160c580b34fa 10:28:36 !messages 10:28:36 No messages for mrwooster. 10:31:00 is there some recommended, non-abusive way to make a .rc-bot run repeatedly on a server? are there ways *not* to do it? 10:31:27 Grunt or elliptic might know 10:31:37 notcluie would not 10:33:04 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 10:33:25 I'll hold off with my very hacky way until I learn more :) 10:34:39 -!- Turgon has quit [Client Quit] 10:37:25 -!- dait is now known as daiy 10:37:59 -!- Bloodsparce has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:38:13 TAS_2012v: by run repeatedly you mean run lots of games in a row? I assume you know about the per-turn delay that qw adds in? 10:38:58 not sure exactly what abusiveness you are concerned about 10:40:11 if you are going to play a *lot* of games in a short period of time, there is some worry about other players being annoyed by the bot's ghosts -- using a more popular server helps with that to some extent 10:41:07 aside from that, the 0.1 sec delay per turn that qw adds seems to be sufficient to keep the CPU usage somewhat reasonable 10:41:09 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 10:41:29 and I don't know what other issues there are :) 10:48:15 yup, delay is nice, I added that, ghosts I hadn't thought about, but they are mostly harmless anyway since the bot is so bad :P 10:48:35 it's more the routine to reinitiate a new game after finishing the last one 10:49:14 if there is some nicer way than to hack a keypress macro into my client 10:49:50 I think what most of us do is use an expect script, one second and I'll paste mine 10:50:02 thanks 10:50:51 long-term possible suggestion for bots and other things: add an option not to leave ghosts 10:51:15 perhaps that would also imply that it is not to use other players' ghosts either 10:51:50 I don't think the ghost thing has ever been a major issue 10:51:56 !gamesby bot 10:51:57 bot has played 13512 games, between 2009-09-19 19:48:45 and 2015-02-22 21:15:52, won 21 (0.2%), high score 1933219, total score 169608523, total turns 86868923, play-time/day 0:31:56, total time 43d+23:47:56. 10:52:05 even with quite a few games played 10:52:51 oh there is Expect for Windows these days, have to try that out 10:53:20 https://bpaste.net/raw/8d5e84256280 <- very simple expect script 10:53:33 Grunt has a fancier one iirc 10:53:46 is there some unwritten convention with the ?w bot names? :P 10:53:56 I don't know anything about getting something like this to work in windows though 10:54:05 I'll experiment.. 10:54:37 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 10:54:52 TAS_2012v: the history is that n78291 named his bot "xw" for unknown reasons, then I named my bot "qw" because I already had a "qwqw" account I used for testing things, then other people followed the convention :P 10:55:39 love that 10:58:09 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 10:58:22 -!- Mushboom has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:04:45 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.16-a0-4093-g160c580 (34) 11:08:13 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 11:08:59 -!- Utis has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:09:53 !tell |amethyst do you remember more about the crash in #9350? the logs for 12/20 have some more information but i can't remember exactly what happened 11:09:53 wheals: OK, I'll let |amethyst know. 11:11:37 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 11:23:17 -!- bencryption has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.8] 11:30:26 -!- SurpriseTRex has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:31:17 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 11:36:46 <|amethyst> wheals: those two that tigertrap posted are different 11:36:53 <|amethyst> !lm joy1999 crash x=god 11:36:53 yeah i know 11:36:53 18. [2014-12-22 12:12:00] [god=Yredelemnul] joy1999 the Merry Centaur (L20 CeWr of Yredelemnul) ERROR: range check error (27011 / 2000) (Shoals:5) 11:36:56 and fixed a while ago 11:37:16 <|amethyst> !lm * crash milestone~~/_2000 11:37:17 No keyword '_2000' 11:37:20 <|amethyst> !lm * crash milestone~~\/_2000 11:37:21 No keyword '_2000' 11:37:25 <|amethyst> !lm * crash milestone~~"/ 2000" 11:37:28 45. [2014-12-22 12:12:00] joy1999 the Merry Centaur (L20 CeWr of Yredelemnul) ERROR: range check error (27011 / 2000) (Shoals:5) 11:37:31 <|amethyst> !lm * crash milestone~~"/ 2000" -2 11:37:33 44/45. [2014-12-22 11:37:44] joy1999 the Merry Centaur (L19 CeWr of Yredelemnul) ERROR: range check error (27083 / 2000) (Shoals:5) 11:37:35 <|amethyst> !lm * crash milestone~~"/ 2000" -3 11:37:36 43/45. [2014-12-22 10:41:48] joy1999 the Merry Centaur (L17 CeWr of Yredelemnul) ERROR: range check error (27011 / 2000) (Shoals:5) 11:37:44 <|amethyst> !lm * crash milestone~~"/ 2000" !ckr 11:37:47 38. [2014-10-12 22:25:31] serious the Phalangite (L22 MfAs of Yredelemnul) ERROR: range check error (27002 / 2000) (Shoals:5) 11:37:51 <|amethyst> !lm * crash milestone~~"/ 2000" !ckr -log 11:37:53 38. serious, XL22 MfAs, T:59465 (milestone): http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/serious/crash-serious-20141012-222531.txt 11:38:00 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.16-a0-4094-g751c2b0: Function-ise a duplicated formula 10(16 hours ago, 3 files, 8+ 7-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=751c2b0b3b1c 11:38:00 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.16-a0-4095-g194d721: Revert "The triumphant return of the blowgun of the Assassin" 10(81 minutes ago, 3 files, 2+ 10-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=194d72164126 11:38:00 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.16-a0-4096-g8ff97e8: Let lava monsters flop around on dry land 10(14 minutes ago, 3 files, 17+ 12-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=8ff97e822907 11:38:00 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.16-a0-4097-gb4d75fa: Replace Qazlal's lava wrath effect with noise 10(5 hours ago, 1 file, 4+ 57-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=b4d75faae290 11:38:02 the actual bug was with recalling ilsuiw off-level, then something with her items when he came back and monster_die(KILL_RESET got called on here 11:38:07 oh nice 11:38:25 <|amethyst> !lm * crash milestone~~"/ 2000" cszo -log 11:38:30 24. Spectrina, XL26 FoCj, T:52628 (milestone): http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/Spectrina/crash-Spectrina-20140626-034122.txt 11:39:06 !lm * crash milestone~~"/ 2000" shoals cszo -log 11:39:08 1. Sky, XL17 HuEE, T:81988 (milestone): http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/Sky/crash-Sky-20131210-023740.txt 11:39:13 -!- MIC132 has joined ##crawl-dev 11:39:37 nope 11:40:07 -!- MIC132 has quit [Client Quit] 11:44:11 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 11:44:16 <|amethyst> ah, serious's crash is from releasing tides when the monster is KILL_RESET on entering the level 11:44:44 _dgn_check_terrain_items is getting called before items are linked 11:44:57 <|amethyst> but that's before items are linked 11:44:59 <|amethyst> yeah 11:45:06 minmay: I have released all responsibility for shadow traps; they are in the hands of other devs now, to do with as they please. 11:45:18 you apparently suggested at the time making a list of off-level followers to kill, and doing so after item linking 11:45:31 <|amethyst> ah 11:45:36 <|amethyst> yeah 11:45:54 <|amethyst> I wonder if that would fix a different bug too 11:45:58 that said, it depends on the implementation whether or not it'd be a feature freeze violation; I think it might not be quite trivial enough to implement, since you'd have to do more than tweak a number or two, you'd have to add new logic that'd be easy to fuck up in subtle ways 11:46:01 <|amethyst> the ones about unlinked orc equipment 11:46:02 but idk 11:46:08 oh 11:46:12 |amethyst: I would be very happy if that bug unhappened 11:46:21 that might be the cause of those, yeah... 11:47:02 MarvinPA: elliptic: I think the 52-item burden thing might have been my suggestion? it was a while ago, and I stopped pursuing it when the angband floor item interaction stuff came up 11:47:43 I think it'd be better than the current situation but I'm not sure if it adds enough value to be worth it if we're also implementing using-items-from-the-floor 11:48:27 <|amethyst> wheals: and, yeah, I think that suggestion would still work... I guess make tag_read_level_monsters return a vector of monster pointers to be KILL_RESET 11:48:48 <|amethyst> wheals: you still want the continue so you don't do the rest of processing for such a monster 11:50:40 -!- Ququman has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 11:51:26 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:51:44 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [Firefox 35.0.1/20150122214805]] 11:51:58 <|amethyst> would be nice if I could reproduce the crash 11:53:19 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 11:56:56 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 11:56:57 The build was broken. (master - 160c580 #1840 : Shmuale Mark): http://travis-ci.org/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/builds/52005341 11:56:57 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 11:57:13 -!- mrwooster has quit [Read error: No route to host] 11:57:42 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 11:58:33 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 11:59:22 -!- domiryuu has quit [Quit: leaving] 11:59:48 * wheals doesn't understand why that travis crash never seems to happen in normal play 12:00:54 dungeon.lua, function place_maps, line 40430240 hmmmmm 12:07:12 -!- Azzkikr_ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 12:14:24 -!- Monkaria_ has quit [Client Quit] 12:15:04 -!- Monkaria has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:15:49 -!- Monkaria_ has quit [Client Quit] 12:18:30 <|amethyst> hm 12:18:48 <|amethyst> without being able to reproduce the crash (and I've been trying) I can't really test whether this works 12:19:37 <|amethyst> I think probably something special needs to be true of the items... just being in the recalled monster's, or another monster's, inventory isn't enough---nor is being in the floor 12:19:45 -!- elliptic has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:19:52 -!- lawman0 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:20:48 or perhaps something needs to be true of the level's geometry? 12:20:57 <|amethyst> hm 12:26:37 -!- Monkaria has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:26:55 <|amethyst> patch at #9350 12:35:31 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:36:48 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 12:38:34 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 12:41:57 -!- link_108 has joined ##crawl-dev 12:43:20 huh, "Marduk" is still in the code 12:44:02 -!- halberd has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:45:11 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 12:48:42 -!- geekosaur has quit [Excess Flood] 12:50:19 -!- geekosaur has joined ##crawl-dev 12:50:21 ??trivia[marduk 12:50:23 I don't have a page labeled trivia[marduk in my learndb. 12:50:27 ?/marduk 12:50:28 No matches. 12:50:32 feh 12:50:44 the ??trivia entry was incorrect, anyway (or at least super unclear) 12:52:09 -!- orneryostrich has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 12:53:36 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 12:58:36 -!- link_1081 has joined ##crawl-dev 13:00:14 -!- link_108 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:01:53 |amethyst: i think it might just work to link items after unmarshalling them 13:02:28 link_items() does check item_def::held_by_monster() but having no monsters in existence shouldn't break that, it just checks the item's link 13:03:03 -!- mrwooster has joined ##crawl-dev 13:07:53 i wonder whether #7975 and #8334 were due to to the insanity of spell slots, way back 13:08:43 both knights and zealots had spells they would want to target at themselves 13:09:58 also #8334 is so beautifully jpegged, it's amazing 13:14:49 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:15:52 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 13:18:09 Hey guys, I have finished my initial implementation of the learnDB interface and its now up at a permanent URL 13:18:25 https://lookupdb.guy.ht 13:19:40 -!- Voker57 has quit [] 13:22:52 -!- j7thomps has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:22:52 -!- ebering has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:30:14 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 13:30:17 -!- athros has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:31:33 -!- Dunsworth has quit [Client Quit] 13:31:38 -!- caleba has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:33:43 mrwooster: That looks great! Seems like that'd be a good resource to make available to the community. 13:34:25 Lasty_: thanks, i used the old one all the time, and was dissapointed to see it got taken down 13:35:10 mrwooster: though it seems to break sometimes -- if I enter something with no results (?) the ajax request starts returning null for all requests 13:35:34 Looks like the post it's sending is just "1:2" 13:35:48 its using socket.io 13:35:56 Oh, it's just timing out 13:35:58 so the ajax requests are just polling for data i think 13:36:05 Works great when it doesn't time out :D 13:36:28 odd, it shouldnt time out, unless your connection is v slow 13:36:30 The integrated chei/learndb stats are very nice 13:36:42 It's mostly responding instantly, but every now and then it gets a streak of timeouts 13:36:45 ye, that was about 90% of the work 13:37:02 ^ the monster stats 13:39:06 -!- CacoS has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:46:23 Not relevant for 0.16, but I've been thinking about new item properties a bit, and I'm interested to see what y'all think. 'heavy' weapon brand: multiplies damage output by 50-150% on each swing and increases base attack delay by the weapon's min delay. Having that property on a weapon would potentially make it worthwhile to overtrain the weapon to ameliorate the extra delay, but only weapons with < 1.4 delay could fully remove it. It also has the adv 13:48:01 -!- mrwooster has quit [Quit: mrwooster] 13:48:37 -!- mrwooster has joined ##crawl-dev 13:51:00 Also, more negative randart properties: "vulnerable" -- multiplies damage by 10% per level after AC/EV/resistances are checked. "*Taunt" - has a chance to give enemies damaged by you Might (or the lesser might that orc warlords use -- I forget what it's called). "*Attract" -- when a monster notices you, has a chance to recall another monster to its position (can't chain). 13:52:26 "*Sap" -- when you use mana, chance to lose extra mana (alternately, chance to lose mana whenever you take damage) 13:53:09 I feel like the small pool of negative artefact properties are getting used pretty heavily, and it'd be nice to make the pool a bit deeper. 13:56:30 <|amethyst> !tell wheals yeah, I think you're right 13:56:30 |amethyst: OK, I'll let wheals know. 13:56:40 -!- MgDark has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [Firefox 35.0.1/20150122214805]] 13:56:41 <|amethyst> !tell wheals re just moving link_items a little earlier 13:56:42 |amethyst: OK, I'll let wheals know. 13:57:41 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:57:45 <|amethyst> !tell wheals but if so I would add a comment in held_by_monster (and maybe item_is_stationary_net) that they are not allowed to look at monsters 13:57:46 |amethyst: OK, I'll let wheals know. 13:57:57 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 13:58:40 !tell gammafunk I talked to roctavian and he agrees - floors are done, the rest is waiting for 0.17 13:58:41 PleasingFungus: OK, I'll let gammafunk know. 13:58:45 !tell gammafunk Ill update the plan 13:58:46 PleasingFungus: OK, I'll let gammafunk know. 13:59:11 Lasty_: for 'heavy': why 50-150%? also, your message cut off 13:59:40 PleasingFungus: I want the average to be ~100%, and we typically randomize the percent added by brand. 13:59:44 <|amethyst> ? 13:59:53 <|amethyst> why would you ever use a weapon with that brand? 13:59:55 rest of the message was "Having that property on a weapon would potentially make it worthwhile to overtrain the weapon to ameliorate the extra delay, but only weapons with < 1.4 delay could fully remove it. It also has the advantage of doing extra damage up front in exchange for slower recovery." 14:00:15 <|amethyst> 100% on average is not extra damage 14:00:21 <|amethyst> unless you get lucky 14:00:23 excuse me, +100% 14:01:05 so it always deals normal damage, and then it applies a +50%-150% damage modifier on top of that, like vorpal 14:02:46 (but much larger than vorpal" 14:02:47 ) 14:03:02 <|amethyst> I'm not sure if the additive delay would work out very well 14:03:06 <|amethyst> it's kind of a weird curve 14:03:11 <|amethyst> it starts out being somewhat slower 14:03:23 <|amethyst> then when you would be at mindelay it's twice as slow 14:03:28 <|amethyst> then it approaches the same speed 14:03:36 Hmm, fair point about the curve. 14:03:41 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 14:04:12 It would be a radically different curve than a normal weapon of the type 14:04:20 That's kind of the appeal to me tho 14:04:21 this weird curve also exists for existing weapons with different delays, but to a lesser extent 14:05:11 Just adding (say) 50% delay would mean that you wouldn't have the arguably-interesting choice of overtraining weapon skill 14:05:33 lemme rephrase that: just multiplying delay by 150% 14:06:07 <|amethyst> yeah 14:06:29 <|amethyst> I guess practically, adding 0.7 (or less for fast weapons) just makes them into a different weapon class 14:06:50 <|amethyst> s/class/subtype/ 14:07:52 unknown monster: "halberd" 14:07:52 <|amethyst> %??halberd 14:07:54 <|amethyst> err 14:07:54 <|amethyst> ??halberd 14:07:55 halberd[1/2]: (polearms; -3 acc / 13 dam / 1.5 base delay / 0.7 min delay; two handed). A polearm consisting of an axe blade topped with a spike, mounted on a long shaft. Halberds chop hydra heads. 14:07:56 Yeah, effectively, though they would mostly be base weapon classes that otherwise do not exist 14:08:18 <|amethyst> ??bardiche 14:08:18 bardiche[1/1]: (polearms; -6 acc / 18 dam / 2.0 base delay / 0.7 min delay; two handed). A long pole with an enormous, cleaving blade on one end. The largest polearm. Bardiches chop hydra heads. 14:08:42 <|amethyst> hm, so a heavy halberd would bigger and slower than a bardiche 14:08:43 -!- halberd has quit [Changing host] 14:08:46 yes 14:08:53 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 14:09:25 <|amethyst> well, I guess not bigger really 14:09:31 a heavy scimitar would profit from up to 27 skill (7.5 delay at that point) and effectively behave similarly to 24 base damage weapon 14:09:31 I wonder if it's too much. I don't think any other brand is as dramatic, with the arguable exception of distortion 14:09:32 <|amethyst> since bonus damage isn't the same as base 14:09:39 ??giant spiked club 14:09:40 giant spiked club[1/4]: (maces & flails; -7 acc / 22 dam / 1.8 base delay / 0.7 min delay; two handed). A giant lump of wood with sharp spikes at one end. The only playable races that can wield giant spiked clubs are Ogres and Trolls. 14:09:40 <|amethyst> ??scimitar 14:09:40 scimitar[1/1]: (long blades; -2 acc / 12 dam / 1.4 base delay / 0.7 min delay). A long sword with a wide, curved blade. 14:09:51 |amethyst: multiplicative bonus damage is pretty much the same as base damage. 14:10:04 It gets applied last and applies to all the damage calculations derived from base damage. 14:10:11 Unless I'm forgetting something. 14:10:13 <|amethyst> oh, yeah 14:10:31 "vulnerable" is really really close to being -ac, just with more potential for bugginess, I think 14:11:30 <|amethyst> I think "vulnerable" is closer to -HP 14:11:39 PleasingFungus: It's different from AC in that it's applied after AC, making greater AC reduce the negative effects of vulnerable and less AC exacerbate it. It also exacerbates the effects of torment and hellfire . . . 14:11:43 <|amethyst> since it applies to post-AC damage 14:11:45 |amethyst: fair point 14:11:48 Lasty_: like I said 14:11:52 more potential for bugginess 14:12:10 (e.g. would this make torment potentially lethal again? what if you had multiple vuln artefacts? etc) 14:12:25 |amethyst: the only places where it's noticably different from -hp are in places where it's not clearly a good thing (e.g. Torment) 14:12:30 so yeah, maybe scrap that. 14:12:51 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Client Quit] 14:13:00 I like taunt but I would like it more if I was convinced that 'roused'/'battle-frenzied' was a status effect that should exist 14:13:02 idk 14:13:05 I think I like it anyway 14:13:07 If it were applied pre-AC, that would be more like a percentage-based -AC . . . Maybe I'll drop that. 14:13:23 PleasingFungus: we can always just use might anyway, since that's a fine effect to have exist. 14:13:38 *attract is a weird effect and I'm not sure how to evaluate it 14:14:16 My thought was that it would make it much harder to have 1v1 fights. 14:14:55 Alternately *Clone, where when a monster notices you, there's a chance of summoning a durable copy of that monster. 14:15:14 Same idea, but less disruptive to vaults 14:16:06 ya idk. is this just another thing you have to swap away from after every combat, and swap back in after pulling the enemy back a safe distance 14:16:09 that's my concern 14:16:37 <|amethyst> yeah, both of those sound like "don't explore while wearing this" 14:16:43 hmm, fair point. Could restrict it to non-swappables, ofc. Could alternately have it be something that has a chance to happen when monsters damage you or something. 14:16:45 <|amethyst> if it's on armour 14:16:48 <|amethyst> that would work 14:17:37 just remove all non-armour items 14:17:41 haha 14:17:55 <|amethyst> dagger -> gloves of stabbing 14:18:06 <|amethyst> bardiche -> gloves of reaching 14:18:22 <|amethyst> axe -> gloves of the Three Stooges 14:18:35 easy swapping does make it harder to have meaningful drawbacks. The drawbacks pretty much need to trigger during combat evenst. 14:18:41 and not otherwise. 14:19:01 * PleasingFungus makes a loud noise! 14:19:06 and vanishes... 14:19:08 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [Firefox 35.0.1/20150122214805]] 14:19:19 *Explosive - when damaged by other sources, there's a chance to drop a fireball on you. Potentially helpful if you have rF+. :p 14:19:56 -!- Sovek has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:20:16 -!- ghostmoth has quit [Quit: ghostmoth] 14:20:32 -!- CacoS has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:23:13 <|amethyst> the explosion of exploding armour fragments explo^H^H^H^Hngulfs you! 14:23:42 and f it's gloves you can then borrow the Ru code for missing a hand... 14:23:45 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 14:24:25 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 14:28:28 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 14:28:38 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 14:30:08 <|amethyst> -Melee 14:30:31 <|amethyst> the +6 robe "Straightjacket" {Clarity -Melee} 14:30:38 <|amethyst> err, straitjacket? 14:31:03 <|amethyst> ah, yes, it is narrow, not unbent 14:33:06 haha 14:33:44 -Ranged. Take that, everyone who trades convenience for power! 14:34:13 Speaking of which, gloves of archery are +4 now, right? Effectively gauntlets of war for ranged combat . . . 14:36:52 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 14:37:02 <|amethyst> solution: give War archery brand in addition to slay+5 14:37:11 Problem solved! 14:37:15 <|amethyst> s/brand/ego/ 14:37:46 In 0.17, I'll probably knock that down to +2. :p 14:38:00 !learn add lasty_to_do ruin archery 14:38:01 lasty to do[14/14]: ruin archery 14:40:26 <_miek> heh 14:40:33 <_miek> -Ranged is a new prop? 14:40:48 no, that was a joke. Sorry. 14:43:13 -!- stevee has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:43:43 <_miek> I'm all for it, so long as -Melee is a thing too :P 14:44:44 -!- mumra has joined ##crawl-dev 14:44:54 Sovek (L27 HOBe) ASSERT(in_bounds(source)) in 'beam.cc' at line 583 failed. (source = (0,0)) (Dis:7) 14:45:14 hai 14:50:14 -!- ystael has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 14:52:49 <|amethyst> mumra! 14:54:32 rise from your grave 14:55:53 -!- halberd has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 14:57:09 (and the mumras outgrabe?) 15:02:08 -!- mopl has quit [Client Quit] 15:03:16 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 15:07:59 -!- CKyle has quit [Client Quit] 15:09:13 -!- Bloax has quit [Quit: Error: Bloax not found] 15:09:19 -!- ebering has joined ##crawl-dev 15:16:30 -!- mopl has quit [Client Quit] 15:16:59 -!- alefury has joined ##crawl-dev 15:21:35 -!- ashudal has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:23:54 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:40:50 -!- Ly^ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 15:41:41 -!- Monkaria has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:44:11 -!- worldfamousw has quit [Client Quit] 15:50:55 how do you add things to learndb? 15:51:14 (i know in principle, but whats the process, and who has access?) 15:51:43 you use the !learn add command in ##crawl or ##crawl-dev 15:52:28 so anyone can add to it? 15:53:43 yes 15:54:45 -!- Krakhan has quit [Changing host] 15:55:20 -!- Menche has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 16:05:43 -!- Zenavathar_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:06:23 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 16:06:33 !crashlog 16:06:34 wheals: You have 3 messages. Use !messages to read them. 16:06:34 10578. Sovek, XL27 HOBe, T:172721 (milestone): http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/morgue/Sovek/crash-Sovek-20150224-204445.txt 16:07:48 looks like a caco is somehow standing on Imprison walls?? 16:08:08 -!- theTower has joined ##crawl-dev 16:08:11 -!- theTower has left ##crawl-dev 16:10:11 -!- siepu has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:14:52 -!- geekosaur has quit [Excess Flood] 16:16:20 -!- geekosaur has joined ##crawl-dev 16:18:05 -!- ly has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:20:53 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 16:25:09 -!- WereVolvo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:29:39 -!- Moonsilence has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 16:33:07 -!- Wah has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:33:11 -!- Whistling_Bread has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:34:45 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 16:35:29 -!- Ragnor has quit [Quit: leaving] 16:35:59 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 16:38:38 !seen gammafunk 16:38:38 I last saw gammafunk at Tue Feb 24 05:42:18 2015 UTC (16h 56m 20s ago) quitting, saying 'Quit: leaving'. 16:40:23 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 16:45:37 -!- Sharkman1231 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:45:39 -!- Insomniak` has quit [Quit: I like to rock] 16:49:05 -!- bencryption has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.8] 16:53:57 -!- mopl has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:54:55 -!- Akitten_Homura has joined ##crawl-dev 16:54:56 -!- Akitten_Homura has quit [Client Quit] 16:56:04 -!- Bcadren has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:00:08 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 17:01:21 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 17:05:02 -!- stanzill has quit [Quit: au rev] 17:09:08 Unstable branch on crawl.lantea.net updated to: 0.16-a0-4097-gb4d75fa (34) 17:11:43 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 17:12:08 .crushed -tv 17:12:09 124. dolemite99, XL19 DrBe, T:75575 requested for FooTV: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 17:13:22 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 17:14:55 You hear crushing rock. 17:15:20 -!- Watball has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:17:50 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 17:19:19 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:19:20 ??0.16_plan 17:19:21 0.16 plan[1/1]: https://crawl.develz.org/wiki/doku.php?id=dcss:planning:0.16_plans 17:23:34 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:23:58 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 17:24:49 Lasty: I see someone playing the iashol branch :p 17:25:05 !lm * src=cszo experimental x=file 17:25:06 62659. [2015-02-24 23:15:32] [file=remote.cszo-milestones-any-iashol] dornbeast the Charmwright (L1 HESk) began the quest for the Orb on turn 0. (D:1) 17:28:35 wheals: just for you ;) http://lookupdb.guy.ht/#term/lich 17:30:16 gammafunk: probably dodging newtomb :p 17:30:43 Lasty: wow, that is some kinda crazy farsighted prediction 17:30:54 (fwiw, i like newtomb) 17:31:32 well, I like it better than oldtomb 17:31:37 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 17:31:52 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:32:40 gammafunk: btw, did you see the short list of suggested new negative randart props I listed above? 17:32:52 -!- plathrop has joined ##crawl-dev 17:33:08 abbout 3 hrs ago 17:33:20 s/bb/b/ 17:39:55 mrwooster:sweet 17:40:37 Lasty: is *Twstr one? 17:44:03 Lasty: no, link? 17:44:26 I'll probably be irrevocably harmed by reading it, but still... 17:44:39 <_miek> -ranged 17:45:27 oh, you said listed above 17:46:56 should the manual still try and give information for every server? seems like it might be better to just link to the cdo howto page instead of duplicating all that info 17:47:40 yeah, that does seem wise 17:48:40 Potions of ambrosia are more effective while hasted 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9504 by MarvinPA 17:49:05 wheals: *Twstr is all of them 17:49:52 MarvinPA: ambrosia + weapon swap tech 17:50:18 Ambrosia + qb + finesse tech 17:50:54 oh yeah i didn't even think about weapon swapping 17:51:08 that's probably a real thing! 17:51:10 (this is actually a fairly serious bug IMO) 17:51:13 yeah 17:52:11 hasted qblade for even faster heal 17:52:27 finally, a replacement for breadswinging 17:52:28 wheals: hi 17:52:46 -!- mrwooster has quit [Quit: mrwooster] 17:52:52 hasted, finessed, qb of speed? 17:52:59 i think |amethyst pointed out that just scaling the heal by delay would still make fast actions tend more towards healing the mean amount, since the heal per action is randomised 17:53:01 g&g? 17:53:07 oh i shoud learn2read 17:53:25 MarvinPA: you can use the same counter that regen uses 17:53:27 MarvinPA:is that true of elixir? 17:53:45 elixir heals a fixed amount 17:53:45 at least for HP regen 17:53:45 ah 17:53:51 (a percentage of your maxhp) 17:54:02 MarvinPA: but does it heal it faster if you take fast actions? 17:54:15 it scales it by delay iirc 17:54:54 -!- WalkerBoh has joined ##crawl-dev 17:54:56 -!- ldf has quit [Quit: ldf] 17:55:53 !source _dec_elixir_hp 17:55:54 1/1. http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/player.cc;hb=HEAD#l5349 17:56:52 anyway you.hit_points_regeneration is how normal regen handles this, see _regenerate_hp_and_mp 17:58:07 really I'm not sure why elixir and ambrosia and such aren't implemented using the regen code 17:59:18 -!- miz has joined ##crawl-dev 17:59:31 that does seem like it might work better 18:01:09 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 18:01:50 MarvinPA:imo remove more duplication 18:02:19 combine curing and heal wounds into cure wounds 18:02:35 potion of cure wounds and status 18:03:08 potion of cancel wounds! 18:07:23 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 18:11:50 -!- plathrop has left ##crawl-dev 18:13:38 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 18:16:34 -!- Crehl has quit [Quit: Killed by a kitten] 18:16:46 -!- mrwooster has joined ##crawl-dev 18:18:22 -!- Aryth has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.0.4 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/] 18:18:43 -!- Zooty has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:22:46 hi again! am here actually now 18:26:34 -!- endou has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:27:20 oh man, how many servers now 18:28:33 must be a way to pool all the webtiles servers into a single games list for convenience 18:33:58 hi mumra! yeah there is a thingy 18:34:42 looks like said thingy is down though 18:36:50 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:37:52 oh it loaded 18:37:56 mumra: http://crawl.develz.org/wordpress/player-status 18:38:08 -!- orneryos_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 18:43:00 -!- TangoBravo has quit [Client Quit] 18:45:35 -!- kazimuth has quit [Client Quit] 18:50:25 -!- DrKe is now known as DgWnOfLegend 18:50:34 -!- DgWnOfLegend is now known as DrKe 18:50:54 -!- DrKe is now known as DgWnOfLegendaryL 18:51:04 -!- DgWnOfLegendaryL is now known as DrKe 18:54:03 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 19:02:23 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:14:30 -!- Cheibriados has joined ##crawl-dev 19:14:30 -!- The topic of ##crawl-dev is: Crawl Development | Logs: http://s-z.org/crawl-dev/ | People with +v have commit access. | Please keep general Crawl-related chat to ##crawl. | Dev wiki: http://crawl.develz.org/wiki | Long stuff to a pastebin service, please. 19:14:30 -!- The topic of ##crawl is: Play Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup online now! 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19:51:19 -!- caleba has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:52:07 wb Cheibriados 19:56:02 CanOfWorms: hey that's pretty cool 19:56:02 CanOfWorms: ask ontoclasm about that 19:56:02 I bet he'll like it 19:56:02 imo sigmund tile 19:56:02 looks really nice to me at least 19:56:02 kind of like he's playing that scimitar like a guitar, which is good 19:56:02 crawl needs more death metal 19:56:02 CanOfWorms: you can do this 19:56:02 or like he's standing in a boat and that's an oar 19:56:02 !tell ontoclasm CanOfWorms has a new reaper tile http://i.imgur.com/h9WUDKd.png for you to check out 19:56:02 it does look cool though :) (i just don't know what tiles should look like) 19:56:02 dang, rip Sequell 19:56:02 CanOfWorms: anyhow that command usually works for leaving people messages 19:56:02 wheals broke it... 19:56:02 !rip gammafunk 19:56:02 yeah rip 19:56:03 gammafunk: OK, I'll let ontoclasm know. 19:56:07 gammafunk the Charlatan (L1 HuAr), slain by a hill giant skeleton on D:12, with 0 points after 23 turns and 0:00:06. 19:56:30 I'll also post it in the tiles thread in tavern 19:57:53 -!- mrwooster has joined ##crawl-dev 19:59:27 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 19:59:27 -!- link_1081 has joined ##crawl-dev 19:59:27 -!- bhaak has joined ##crawl-dev 20:00:14 -!- mauris has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20:00:57 Ash lies about unseen monster resists 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9505 by Caricature 20:04:14 wow 20:04:15 12 levels in 23 turns 20:04:15 not too bad 20:04:15 HuAr Quite Powerful 20:04:15 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 20:04:15 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 20:07:41 -!- Rarn has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:10:42 -!- CKyle has quit [*.net *.split] 20:10:42 -!- link_1081 has quit [*.net *.split] 20:10:42 -!- bhaak has quit [*.net *.split] 20:10:42 -!- Kaidessa has quit [*.net *.split] 20:10:58 i guess they're MH_NONLIVING 20:16:21 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 20:16:23 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 20:16:23 -!- link_1081 has joined ##crawl-dev 20:16:23 -!- bhaak has joined ##crawl-dev 20:16:59 -!- SomeStupidGuy has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:17:12 -!- link_1081 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20:19:48 -!- Whistling_Beard has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:24:07 CanOfWorms: you can do that, but generally if ontoclasm sees it and likes it or you make corrections based on his feeback, he'll just commit it to trunk for you 20:24:18 -!- mumra has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20:24:54 I'd commit it, but onto is our Tile God, and we dare not incurr his mighty wrath 20:25:03 *incur 20:25:28 !sacrifice console 20:25:28 * Sequell sacrifices console! 20:25:40 !lg ontoclasm s=tiles 20:25:40 1166 games for ontoclasm: 755x true, 411x false 20:25:49 he has a secret shame... 20:26:04 !lg ontoclasm !tiles s=name 20:26:06 411 games for ontoclasm (!tiles): 204x ontoclasm, 106x Eat, 44x pseudoclasm, 34x pyroclasm, 12x SAMUELLJACKSON, 11x phytoclasm 20:26:11 !lg ontoclasm tiles s=name 20:26:12 755 games for ontoclasm (tiles): 286x ontoclasm, 153x Eat, 145x pyroclasm, 87x pseudoclasm, 61x SAMUELLJACKSON, 23x phytoclasm 20:26:23 huh 20:26:45 I guess playing under the eat account reminds him not to starve 20:27:30 !lg eat xl>10 s=-title 20:27:31 18 games for eat (xl>10): Imperceptible, Tainter, Crack Shot, Nimble, Blinker, Spear-Bearer, Frost Mage, Arsonist, Cloud Mage, Geomancer, Royal Jelly, Spry, Jinx, Impaler, 2x Severer, 2x Black Belt 20:29:06 !lg eat ktyp=starvation 20:29:07 No games for eat (ktyp=starvation). 20:29:13 gammafunk: looks like it worked 20:29:55 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20:30:30 gammafunk: look what you did! 20:32:03 03|amethyst02 07* 0.16-a0-4098-gd37d62b: Don't claim sensed monsters have rN+++ (#9505) 10(53 seconds ago, 1 file, 4+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=d37d62bdde7b 20:37:10 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 20:38:05 ooh, neat 20:38:05 ontoclasm: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 20:38:08 !messages 20:38:08 (1/1) gammafunk said (42m 6s ago): CanOfWorms has a new reaper tile http://i.imgur.com/h9WUDKd.png for you to check out 20:38:15 gammafunk: looks good 20:38:23 |amethyst: i suppose another alternative would be to not print the resists at all for sensed monsters 20:38:27 CanOfWorms: looks good :) 20:38:43 ontoclasm: I should commit that? 20:38:55 you can if you want ofc 20:39:11 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 20:39:32 -!- cribozai has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 20:42:36 -!- ontoclasm1 has joined ##crawl-dev 20:42:42 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:42:50 stupid internet 20:42:53 gammafunk: go right ahead; i'd shift it up one pixel though 20:43:30 .....pixels?!?! you want me to change pixels?!?! 20:43:45 I can do that on my end :v 20:43:46 -!- NotKintak has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:43:50 <|amethyst> see, that's why we should use xpm 20:43:56 <|amethyst> so you could make those kinds of edits with vi 20:44:00 haha 20:44:14 http://i.imgur.com/0AF5EfJ.png 20:44:15 CanOfWorms: thanks, I'll commit it if you do that 20:44:29 who knows what dark magic you had to use to do this 20:44:49 <|amethyst> gammafunk: remember to squash it before committing 20:45:00 necromancy/translocations - move pixel 20:45:04 |amethyst: are you...serious? 20:45:06 lvl 9 20:45:14 ...has anyone modified !banish so it sends gamma to tiles yet? :p 20:45:27 |amethyst: I didn't make a commit, if that's what you mean 20:45:31 !banish gammafunk 20:45:31 <|amethyst> gammafunk: well, maybe not strictly necessary but for some reason we like being byte bums 20:45:31 Kramin casts a spell. gammafunk is cast into the Abyss! 20:45:36 or do you mean more pixel stuff! 20:45:44 <|amethyst> gammafunk: I mean optipng + advpng 20:45:49 how do I do that? 20:45:51 <|amethyst> gammafunk: see the last section of tiles_creation.txt 20:45:53 ah ok 20:45:57 <|amethyst> gammafunk: hm 20:45:58 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 20:46:00 <|amethyst> gammafunk: what OS? 20:46:04 linux, ubuntu 20:46:24 <|amethyst> that should work then 20:47:20 -!- ontoclasm1 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:52:01 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20:52:27 CanOfWorms: how do you want to be credited in CREDITS.txt, CanOfWorms? You can use your real name if you like 20:52:41 CanOfWorms is fine 20:52:51 or with spaces 20:52:57 Can of Worms 20:53:56 ok, we'll probably go with the irc handle for commit title since that's shorter, but I'll use the spaced one for credits.txt 20:54:14 I mean giving credit randomly to a can full of worms 20:54:20 is not the weirdest thing about crawl 20:54:35 heh 20:54:51 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20:58:36 -!- WalkerBoh has joined ##crawl-dev 20:59:25 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 21:05:39 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 21:09:34 CanOfWorms: actually there is a minor problem: http://i.imgur.com/JkB2k03.png 21:09:52 ah 21:09:54 the demon icon is a bit messed up given the red scyth 21:10:00 and its location 21:10:04 not sure what's best for that 21:10:18 is there any attachment to the reaper facing right? 21:10:37 flipping it left should make it better 21:10:39 I don't think so? 21:10:58 http://i.imgur.com/fjJswEp.png 21:13:36 CanOfWorms: it's a bit funky still I guess http://i.imgur.com/oyRuO07.png 21:13:49 hmm 21:14:06 I wonder if the current one has this problem 21:14:46 oh yeah...it kinda does 21:14:54 It would probably be good to standardize on one direction for monsters to face 21:15:18 seems like most are facing left but then ogre shows up 21:15:43 yeah the giants in general 21:16:13 -!- rophy has quit [Quit: Miranda NG! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-ng.org/] 21:17:20 those are usually facing left, I guess it's fire/frost 21:18:00 http://i.imgur.com/7ROwred.png 21:18:08 that should have space for the pentagram 21:18:34 gammafunk: the weirdest is probably alligator facing left and baby alligator facing right, or snapping turtle facing left and alligator snapping turtle facing right 21:18:41 gammafunk: addendum: why do baby alligators exist 21:18:52 to make the player feel bad for killing them? 21:19:16 yeah baby alligators don't seem very useful, do they 21:19:21 gammafunk: probably they were flipped to make them look more different from each other but it ends up looking super weird in practice when they appear alongside each other, IMO 21:19:24 not like alligators need much help 21:19:29 baby alligator (02t) | Spd: 12 (swim: 60%) | HD: 7 | HP: 29-50 | AC/EV: 1/11 | Dam: 20 | amphibious, cold-blooded | Res: 06magic(20), 12drown | XP: 263 | Sz: small | Int: reptile. 21:19:29 %??baby alligator 21:19:47 i find it hard to believe this is remotely dangerous in any way by the time it appears 21:19:48 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:20:04 and if you buffed the numbers it would turn into...an alligator 21:20:26 <_miek> hmmm I've had a few not particularly tanky characters feel their bites pretty hard 21:20:27 I'm sure the vague idea is just "thing to sneak in a kill when you're wounded from fighting an alligator" but yeah, not a great idea 21:21:08 yak (07Y) | Spd: 10 | HD: 7 | HP: 29-50 | AC/EV: 4/7 | Dam: 18 | Res: 06magic(20) | XP: 204 | Sz: Large | Int: animal. 21:21:08 %??yak 21:21:17 "fast amphibious yak" 21:22:34 fast amphibious cold-blooded yak 21:23:17 CanOfWorms: yeah does look better http://i.imgur.com/0Q3vudZ.png 21:23:25 while we're on the subject of tiles, is it just me or do water nymphs have freakishly long legs 21:23:33 yay 21:24:05 maybe that's just the weird pose 21:24:20 -!- mamgar has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:24:21 yeah I think it's more the pose 21:24:33 they look like normal-sized humans for the most part (to me) 21:26:23 -!- broquain1 is now known as broquaint 21:27:02 which reminds me, you guys should make rupert nude too, for parity 21:27:17 it fits his theme 21:28:06 but hairy 21:28:32 (then again I suppose the authors of that dumb android game would get grumpy) 21:28:33 you mean no loincloth? 21:28:39 yeah 21:28:46 the ladies need some cheesecake too, i suppose 21:29:21 I'd prefer it if he were like a...what a sprite? 21:30:14 i mean let's be honest, if a guy is berserking at you, it's *way* scarier if his cock is out 21:30:23 03gammafunk02 07* 0.16-a0-4099-g0be755f: New reaper tile (CanOfWorms) 10(3 minutes ago, 2 files, 1+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=0be755fb2171 21:30:28 the celts understood this 21:30:48 I'm just going be distracted by his erection then 21:30:53 CanOfWorms: thanks! 21:31:07 that tile is good 21:33:06 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 21:33:33 does he get to use it as a club too? 21:35:27 mummies should be able to take off one of their arms and swing it as a club with the other arm 21:36:28 -!- Sovek has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 21:36:33 agreed. also, make a god that will replace your lost limbs with metal. 21:36:59 <|amethyst> I for "Ivan" is untaken 21:37:18 -!- mumra has joined ##crawl-dev 21:39:11 ugh, when did the black mamba tile get redrawn and why did whoever redrew it not fix the colour 21:39:46 I guess it's sort of right if you squint, better than the old one certainly 21:40:14 -!- gressup has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:41:22 -!- Ququman has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:41:39 something like this? http://puu.sh/gbAmY/466a0ac1b8.png 21:41:44 for rupert 21:42:33 that is... 21:42:48 beefy? :o 21:43:28 reminds of that picture of dr. robotnik in a speedo 21:43:58 Dr Robotnik is way fatter 21:44:58 yeah but in the pic i'm talking about he has like a bodybuilder physique 21:45:11 can't find it with google but i'm not sure i really wanted to anyway 21:46:04 I'm impressed with how quickly you produced a good-looking tile for that, also 21:46:28 well, I just modified the existing rupert tile 21:47:36 now I want to see how it looks in-game 21:47:52 CanOfWorms: yeah, you should get crawl set up on your system for compilation 21:47:54 * CanOfWorms compiles offline 21:47:55 so you can test tiles 21:47:58 oh good 21:48:25 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:49:58 http://puu.sh/gbAWt/6e5463ac32.png 21:50:33 wow 21:50:44 the two reapers and rupert both got wizmoded with venom brands 21:50:59 though the problem is, that tile is more of a male fantasy, like the water nymph tile, so it is similarly problematic, rather than providing equality. 21:51:21 hmm 21:51:31 -!- ClawlessVictory has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 21:51:40 given the size of the tiles I'd say it's more just a conan reference than any sort of fantasy for either sort of human 21:52:48 <|amethyst> it doesn't even make sense... Rupert has armour 21:53:00 <|amethyst> (the current tile and the new one) 21:53:15 chequers: we're talking about speedo rupert, not loincloth rupert 21:53:21 http://frigidchick.deviantart.com/art/Where-is-the-MALE-version-of-this-armor-475927784 21:53:25 something like this maybe? 21:53:39 lol 21:53:49 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 21:53:57 or just put rupert in a bikini chainmail? 21:54:32 minmay: me too 21:56:28 I feel bad about sidetracking this discussion with the water nymph comment in the first place 21:57:16 tiamat is also facing right (and looks really weird now that other dracs have new tiles) 21:59:05 -!- zxc232 has joined ##crawl-dev 21:59:17 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 22:01:34 -!- SaintRoka has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:06:47 -!- mumra has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:08:33 well uh 22:08:50 here's rupert with a boob and butt pose? http://puu.sh/gbCbM/6d76ec6941.png 22:09:16 it's art 22:09:46 <|amethyst> FR: someone make a sports streaking game where that is the player tile 22:10:20 <|amethyst> Grand Theft Dignity 22:12:57 -!- olourkin has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:13:05 ribbit (L22 VpEn) ASSERT(item.sub_type == CORPSE_BODY) in 'butcher.cc' at line 356 failed. (Snake:5) 22:13:47 -!- Blazinghand|Work has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:14:40 <|amethyst> I guess that's the thing where the corpse rots during the delay 22:15:32 <|amethyst> !crashlog ribbit 22:15:33 12. ribbit, XL22 VpEn, T:70635 (milestone): http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/ribbit/crash-ribbit-20150225-041251.txt 22:17:50 hmm 22:17:56 what's the green stuff on the necrophage supposed to be 22:18:02 I just see striped boxers 22:19:57 i always thought it was just supposed to be pants 22:21:08 probably unnecessary since e.g. ghouls don't have clothes but still don't have visible genitalia 22:22:55 -!- mrwooster has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 22:29:20 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:30:07 CanOfWorms: incredible 22:31:29 -!- Balrug has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:31:41 minmay i assume that is the first to rot off 22:32:25 would it be, though 22:32:34 is there predation involved 22:32:50 i suspect this is the sort of question that can be most quickly answered by looking at pictures i don't want to look at 22:39:22 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 22:39:28 -!- marsbars has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:40:23 -!- Lasty_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:47:17 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 22:53:31 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 22:53:38 oh my god that rupert is incredible 22:53:41 CanOfWorms: I salute you 22:54:18 slip it into some huge commit so no one notices and wait to see how long it takes for someone to post about it 22:54:59 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 22:57:50 -!- CcS has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:58:59 -!- st_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:59:59 moved rltiles/mon/unique/ to rltiles/mon/uniq/ (50 files moved, 1 file changed) 23:03:29 -!- caricature_ has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 23:04:34 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.16-a0-4099-g0be755f (34) 23:16:44 -!- GoblinBomb has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:20:17 -!- mrwooster has joined ##crawl-dev 23:20:33 -!- nicolae- has left ##crawl-dev 23:22:40 -!- orneryostrich has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:25:14 -!- orneryostrich has quit [Client Quit] 23:26:06 Azrael (04R) | Spd: 10 | HD: 11 | HP: 88 | AC/EV: 10/5 | Dam: 17 | 05demonic, 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, lev | Res: 06magic(40), 05hellfire, 04fire+++, 03poison, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 12cold, 12drown, 08holy++ | XP: 1263 | Sp: b.fire (3d20) [06!sil], sticky flame range (3d5) [06!sil], fireball (3d20) [06!sil], hellfire (3d20) [06!sil], hellfire (3d20) burst [06!sil, 04emergency] | Sz: Large | Int: high. 23:26:06 %??azrael 23:29:06 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]] 23:36:21 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 23:40:28 -!- bitcoinbastard has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:51:18 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 23:54:17 -!- Wah has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:54:59 -!- Yermak has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:55:35 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [Firefox 35.0.1/20150122214805]] 23:56:11 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 23:56:42 -!- bitcoinbastard has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:57:03 -!- myp has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 23:58:54 -!- Wah has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]