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(Depths:1) 00:24:03 oh right, those are milestones cause tourneys 00:28:12 those are useful 00:28:32 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:28:42 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 00:30:53 -!- Lawman0 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:31:07 -!- Twinge has joined ##crawl-dev 00:46:04 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 00:52:25 -!- simmarine_ has joined ##crawl-dev 00:54:48 -!- simmarine has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 01:03:39 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:08:52 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 01:10:12 hi guys. i read this document https://crawl.develz.org/wiki/doku.php?id=setting_up_dgamelaunch_and_webtiles but i have some question. why do i need crawl user and crawl-dev user. and maybe can i have a real example a whole folder structure for DGL with crawl? maybe? 01:15:51 -!- ldierk has joined ##crawl-dev 01:17:12 -!- mong has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.0.1] 01:19:54 -!- MgDark has quit [Read error: No route to host] 01:20:50 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 01:23:13 -!- ldierk has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:23:43 -!- elmdor has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:26:11 -!- odiv_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:31:13 -!- NotKintak has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:33:16 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 01:34:20 FR: 01:34:27 replace felid recite with series of meows 01:34:32 still works perfectly as normal 01:34:44 fake_lang = meow 01:34:48 FR: ^ 01:34:57 forced upon felid players 01:35:10 because felids aren't annoying enough 01:35:33 -!- Siegurt has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 01:38:04 -!- Sharkman1231 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:44:49 -!- Tuxedo[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 01:47:53 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:48:00 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:49:26 -!- link_108 has joined ##crawl-dev 01:49:58 -!- odiv has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:53:11 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 01:55:15 -!- raskol has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:56:12 -!- Krakhan has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 01:56:58 -!- Kalir has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:06:04 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:07:51 -!- Wolfechu has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 02:08:20 -!- Guest5922 is now known as myp 02:10:07 -!- ldierk has joined ##crawl-dev 02:13:04 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 02:16:07 -!- simmarine_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:19:37 -!- ldierk has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 02:24:16 -!- NilsBloodaxe has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:36:36 -!- lessens has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 02:39:06 -!- TheMattybee has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 02:42:08 -!- demiskeleton has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:43:25 -!- __miek has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 02:55:39 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 02:56:12 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 02:56:46 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Quit: Connection reset by pier.] 03:03:31 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:06:02 -!- link_108 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 03:06:41 -!- ldierk has joined ##crawl-dev 03:07:10 yeah, napkin was asleep ;) 03:07:12 moin! 03:07:17 what's up, chequers? 03:07:40 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 03:09:35 chequers is busy revolutionizing the way we play crawl 03:10:50 ??chequers 03:10:50 I don't have a page labeled chequers in my learndb. 03:12:25 -!- ldierk has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 03:24:44 -!- Pepe has quit [Quit: rebuttal] 03:26:15 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 03:39:24 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 04:01:11 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:10:04 -!- Kramin42 has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 04:11:42 -!- Kramin42 has joined ##crawl-dev 04:11:43 -!- surr has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:13:02 -!- tumblemist has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 04:13:26 -!- Kramin42 has quit [Client Quit] 04:16:58 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:17:26 -!- Kramin42 has joined ##crawl-dev 04:18:15 -!- ldierk has joined ##crawl-dev 04:24:20 -!- Hailley has quit [Quit: Petra is closed!] 04:25:37 -!- ldierk has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 04:26:06 -!- ldierk has joined ##crawl-dev 04:26:51 -!- Patashu has quit [Quit: Soundcloud (Famitracker Chiptunes): http://www.soundcloud.com/patashu MSN: Patashu@hotmail.com , AIM: Patashu0 , YIM: patashu2 , Skype: patashu0 .] 04:31:01 -!- ldierk has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 04:31:29 -!- Kintak has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 04:32:49 -!- AtomikKrab has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 04:33:36 -!- y2s82_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 04:39:40 -!- Menche has quit [Quit: Leaving] 04:40:06 -!- mopl has quit [Quit: Page closed] 04:42:41 -!- ldierk has joined ##crawl-dev 04:44:35 -!- MgDark has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:46:52 -!- bonghitz_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:48:03 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 04:49:37 -!- ldierk has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 04:55:27 -!- SomeStupidGirl has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 04:56:17 Ancient liches do not see invsibible, altough they should. 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9448 by Le_Nerd 04:59:26 -!- mopl has quit [Quit: Page closed] 04:59:44 invsibible? 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I realised I never do... 09:15:49 only if I find one pre-lair 09:15:52 (for nergalle) 09:16:26 if I happen to have one in my inventory I might swap it for a swamp ghost crab or somesuch 09:17:20 -!- siepu_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:18:57 ok! 09:19:29 -!- ldierk has joined ##crawl-dev 09:21:10 dpeg: sure, hi! 09:24:25 -!- ldierk has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 09:27:17 -!- debo has quit [Read error: No route to host] 09:29:51 Napkin: hast du Alex' Vorschlag fuer eine neue CDO-Seite gesehen? 09:30:08 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 09:30:50 klar 09:31:26 moderner schickschnack ;) aber schick 09:32:08 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 09:34:15 hhe 09:34:24 super! 09:35:42 natürlich zu schwarz, aber da halt ich mich raus ;) 09:36:55 emo-Stil. Passt. crawl-Spieler sind ja eh nur am rumheulen, weil sie staendig sterben. 09:37:07 this bikeshed is black! 09:37:11 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 09:37:26 hehe 09:37:56 black like my soul 09:38:14 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 09:39:10 chequers: everybody likes your layout! :) 09:39:28 Bloax: you have a soul? 09:39:39 it is composed of black matter 09:39:44 naturally, it is invisible 09:40:03 the question is: does Bloax have a body? 09:40:59 and it also looks good on mobile 09:41:56 bhaak: ah, nice. Is there some way for a website to check what platform it is being displayed on? So that on slow connections, it does not try to show a current game... 09:42:22 dpeg: there's the black art of user-agent sniffing ... 09:42:41 hehe 09:46:51 I'm not sure about if it's possible to find out about a slow connection but you probably don't want it playing on mobile. 09:50:04 what playing? will there be a an active game shown? 09:51:22 yes, that was one of the proposals on the mailing list 09:53:17 Napkin: if it works, it'd be better than a static screenshot 09:53:18 -!- Brannock_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 09:53:29 very cool 09:53:39 -!- radinms_ has quit [] 09:53:41 -!- mauris has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 09:54:04 i hope the viewer doesn't cause too much load! ;) 09:54:24 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 09:55:41 about what chequers wrote about the ordering of the wordpress links.. unfortuntely the plugin for ordering them is broken 09:55:55 hope i find some time to upgrade the wordpress 09:56:29 -!- ldierk has joined ##crawl-dev 09:57:54 -!- jerk has quit [Client Quit] 09:58:29 -!- Flun has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:01:01 -!- ldierk has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 10:02:22 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:07:15 -!- Manslay| has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 10:09:02 -!- ldierk has joined ##crawl-dev 10:10:47 -!- xen has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:11:08 -!- nicholas982 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:11:27 -!- alefury has joined ##crawl-dev 10:13:37 -!- ldierk has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 10:18:00 -!- DrKe has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 10:18:00 -!- neunon has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 10:18:00 -!- Finwe has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 10:18:01 -!- urthmover has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 10:18:01 -!- Brannock_ has joined ##crawl-dev 10:18:22 -!- DrKe has joined ##crawl-dev 10:18:49 -!- neunon has joined ##crawl-dev 10:18:51 -!- neunon has quit [Changing host] 10:18:51 -!- neunon has joined ##crawl-dev 10:22:38 -!- Earlo has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:32:18 -!- NotKintak has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 10:36:29 -!- ldierk has joined ##crawl-dev 10:40:37 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:42:15 -!- krynn has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 10:45:22 -!- Stable|Jho has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - 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(Elf:3) 15:41:25 oops 15:41:29 doh 15:42:29 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 15:42:52 .crushed -tv 15:42:52 111. Herrn, XL27 GrWz, T:119689 requested for FooTV: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 15:43:27 .crushed -tv:cancel 15:43:28 111. Herrn, XL27 GrWz, T:119689 cancel requested for FooTV: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 15:44:00 !lm herrn grwz zig lvl=18 15:44:01 1. [2015-01-27 19:45:10] Herrn the Axe Maniac (L27 GrWz of Cheibriados) reached level 18 of a Ziggurat on turn 119637. (Zig:18) 15:44:26 !lm herrn grwz zig lvl=18 -tv:>$ 15:44:27 1. 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17:36:00 I R interested 17:36:19 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 17:37:45 Kramin: chequers made us a new webpage 17:38:58 thise one? : https://crawl.project357.org/static/dcss-web/index.orange.htm 17:39:06 pretty cool 17:39:31 yeah 17:40:02 oh yes, any preference on the colours dpeg? there is orange, red, yellow pages 17:40:54 no bikeshedding for me :) 17:41:36 typo: wiki is called up-to-date :P 17:45:22 that's not a participatory attitude wheals 17:47:51 more seriously, i agree that it's probably a good idea to link to it, but giving some warning about it not being entirely correct in all cases (even if it's better than it used to be) would be fair, i think 17:48:08 even if just mentioning that it's not official 17:48:37 s/up-to-date/mostly harmless/ 17:49:09 list IRC first imo 17:49:14 maybe "Player-maintained information on etc." 17:50:23 what do you guys think about ##crawl 17:50:37 about the announcements in particular 17:50:44 I think there are too many 17:50:45 -!- codehero has quit [Quit: ZNC / WeeChat] 17:50:50 yeah, uh. 17:50:58 maybe don't link the chaosforge wiki 17:52:17 i'd suggest linking the knowledge bots' page but there doesn't seem to be one anymore 17:53:05 yeah, we need another page like that one where you could do a search 17:53:12 and i'd suggest for the IRC blurb "##crawl on Freenode IRC provides real-time advice and announcements of public server games." 17:53:14 basically a website form of ?? 17:53:18 and %?? 17:53:41 IIRC the snark implemented a web request system for the learndb for gammafunk, which should come in handy 17:54:28 -!- mamgar has quit [Quit: Exit Stage Left] 17:54:50 chequers: where is the link at the top of the page supposed to go? 17:55:11 regarding the wiki, the goal is to turn it into the primary place for players to find game information 17:57:16 you're right that the info currently in it is lowesr quality than learndb, but I don't think that means crawl should stick with learndb 17:57:44 for one thing, the learn interface is crap. single line of text per entry, search is hard, you need to be comfortable with IRC to use it, etc 17:57:48 as for , a link to the git repository somewhere on the page could fit in under news 17:57:58 unfortunately gitorious' interface is crap 17:58:17 er 17:58:20 I'd like to move the focus of player-supplied documentation to the wiki 17:58:22 s/somewhere on the page / 17:58:45 wheals: perhaps a link to the trunk changelog? 17:58:53 chequers: yes, that is a good goal 17:59:07 -!- Sharkman1231_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:59:09 wheals: I was thinking of linking from the download page 17:59:24 where building from source is, of course, one of the main options for *nix players 17:59:27 -!- wheals has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:00:57 !tell wheals wheals: I was thinking of linking from the download page, where building from source is, of course, one of the main options for *nix players 18:00:57 chequers: OK, I'll let wheals know. 18:01:15 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 18:02:12 is there a clone of crawl on github 18:03:51 officially, there's the one travis uses 18:04:12 unofficially a few people have their patchsets and reasonably-recent mirrors pushed there (like me) 18:06:38 -!- cykeltillsalu has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:07:50 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 18:13:59 -!- ZebTM has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:14:39 the wiki is not exactly open to the public, though, iirc 18:15:13 which was part of the reason it went stale so fast 18:15:13 yeah, unlike the ldb 18:16:26 it will be, soon :) 18:17:40 problem is in order for the wiki to get good the good players need to use it 18:17:54 and they use the ldb and %?? 18:18:31 well, mostly you need people who like keeping it up-to-date 18:18:33 if the wiki is fast (enough), comprehensive and better formatted, they will come 18:18:43 hopefully, yeah 18:18:45 in the same way that dwarf fortress uses a wiki rather than a learndb 18:18:50 and who work faster than the devs :P 18:19:40 actually, most data can be automatically imported. like Cheibriados's data is manually kept up to date right now, and you can't choose versions of monsters (eg 0.15 vs 0.16 curse skull), so there's a lot of room for improvement 18:20:19 curse skull (11z) | Spd: 10 | HD: 13 | HP: 66 | AC/EV: 40/3 | 07undead, evil, see invisible, lev, !sil | Res: 13magic(immune), 05hellfire, 02cold++, 10elec++, 03poison, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 1810 | Sp: summon undead, torment symbol | Sz: tiny | Int: high. 18:20:19 %0.10?curse skull 18:20:19 when you need one line of answer, learndb is clearly faster 18:20:27 curse skull (11z) | Spd: 10 (move: 70%) | HD: 13 | HP: 55 | AC/EV: 25/3 | 07undead, evil, see invisible, lev, !sil | Res: 13magic(immune), 05hellfire, 04fire+++, 02cold++, 10elec++, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 1257 | Sp: sum.undead, s.torment | Sz: tiny | Int: high. 18:20:27 %0.14?curse skull 18:20:27 no changing that 18:25:27 -!- sd922 has joined ##crawl-dev 18:25:34 !message 18:25:34 You probably meant !messages, or possibly !tell. 18:25:38 !messages 18:25:39 No messages for sd922. 18:26:00 -!- sd922 has quit [Client Quit] 18:26:23 -!- sd1989 has joined ##crawl-dev 18:26:28 !message 18:26:28 sd1989: You have 2 messages. Use !messages to read them. 18:26:28 You probably meant !messages, or possibly !tell. 18:26:33 !messages 18:26:33 (1/2) gammafunk said (11w 1d 16h 33m ago): You might want to rebuild trunk due to 0.16-a0-2038-g968ce0a 18:26:44 !messages 18:26:44 (1/1) somebody said (5w 3d 3h 45m 32s ago): Hey. Can you please kill my CKR account of the same name (only capitalized), or help me recover the password? I have briefly created it when CLAN was down, forgot to write it down and now it is messing up my !crystalball macabre predictions. :) 18:28:53 -!- edlothiol has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:29:34 -!- Siegurt has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 18:32:16 !tell |amethyst Could you redirect kr.dobrazupa.org to http://webzook.net:8080/#lobby ;; because of my private issues, CKR server admin was changed, and I can't maintain my server anymore. logfile and milestone could be found in http://webzook.net:82/ 18:32:16 sd1989: OK, I'll let |amethyst know. 18:32:23 -!- sd1989 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:32:44 -!- Yllodra has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:39:25 -!- ldierk has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:42:42 -!- Blazinghand|Work has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:46:25 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 18:47:11 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:47:56 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:55:52 -!- ldierk has joined ##crawl-dev 18:59:17 -!- Guest5049 has quit [Quit: LayerBNC - https://LayerBNC.net/] 19:01:57 -!- ZebTM has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:02:35 -!- axujen has quit [Disconnected by services] 19:02:35 -!- axujen_ is now known as axujen 19:03:34 -!- raskol has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:04:06 -!- broquaint has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:07:39 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 19:09:37 -!- archaic is now known as Guest6545 19:11:08 ??gammafunk[3 19:11:08 gammafunk[3/12]: CeAM^Oka NaVM^Chei MfSk^Xom MiBe^(Trog->TSO->Zin;15-rune) DEAs^Kiku HOFE^Beogh 19:11:15 !learn edit gammafunk[3] s/MfSk^Xom // 19:11:15 No change: regex `MfSk^Xom ` does not match `CeAM^Oka NaVM^Chei MfSk^Xom MiBe^(Trog->TSO->Zin;15-rune) DEAs^Kiku HOFE^Beogh` 19:11:19 !learn edit gammafunk[3] s/MfSk\^Xom // 19:11:19 gammafunk[3/12]: CeAM^Oka NaVM^Chei MiBe^(Trog->TSO->Zin;15-rune) DEAs^Kiku HOFE^Beogh 19:11:33 !streak 19:11:35 !lg gammafunk 19:11:35 chequers: You have 2 messages. Use !messages to read them. 19:11:35 2572. gammafunk the Merfolkian Porcupine (L27 MfSk of Xom), escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2015-01-28 01:09:13, with 1672052 points after 69863 turns and 8:00:30. 19:11:37 gammafunk has 2 consecutive wins (HuSu, MfSk), and can keep going! 19:11:40 well done 19:11:41 maybe we get to 3 19:11:46 CeAM^Oka should be easy 19:12:21 dang I missed chris sassing me 19:12:21 chequers: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 19:12:24 !messages 19:12:24 (1/1) ChrisOelmueller said (31s ago): screenshot, right now: non-recent version, boring map+LOS layout, broken website layout, situation and character non-representative (shows endgame instead of in-progress, numbers too huge, place not familiar etc), bad visuals (hp/mp bar shouldn't be near full), rot (bad for hud layout, distracts) 19:13:42 do not cross the mighty eoc lightly 19:13:54 otoh it's ok to cross lightli 19:14:10 \me makes a note not to cross traffic lights today 19:14:22 <_miek> I kinda like the placement being non-typical 19:14:31 <_miek> it acts as a "whoa if I keep playing I can get to here" kind of thing 19:14:44 well I agree it's nice to have 3-rune screenshot but I think the plan is to have a selection or even something crazier 19:14:47 like a live game 19:14:59 but that's clearly a bit more pie-in-the-sky 19:15:11 <_miek> zig:27 screenshot :P 19:15:16 lol 19:15:18 we should have a screenshot of twitchplayscrawl 19:15:23 -!- Basil has quit [Read error: No route to host] 19:15:25 <_miek> is that a thing? 19:15:28 yeah it was 19:15:37 when twitchplayspokemon was still kind of a thing 19:15:44 a bunch of us played it, it was amusing 19:15:51 we died. a lot. 19:15:53 <_miek> yep 19:16:16 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.16-a0-3808-g548cc01: Make Death Rattle only create negative energy clouds 10(2 hours ago, 2 files, 3+ 8-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=548cc014c2a1 19:16:16 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.16-a0-3809-g439c0f4: Make Death Scarab attacks only drain speed and health 10(2 hours ago, 2 files, 3+ 4-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=439c0f49a0d8 19:16:16 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.16-a0-3810-g10450fb: Give bennu a plain attack instead of sticky flame brand 10(2 hours ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=10450fb3d5f5 19:16:16 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.16-a0-3811-g7924498: Remove Control Undead from anubis guards 10(75 minutes ago, 1 file, 3+ 4-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=792449872797 19:16:16 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.16-a0-3812-g365970a: Don't allow phantom mirroring conjured monsters 10(65 minutes ago, 1 file, 3+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=365970a80114 19:16:16 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.16-a0-3813-gd86abff: Remove Forceful Dismissal 10(47 minutes ago, 11 files, 8+ 96-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=d86abff96fa3 19:16:16 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.16-a0-3814-g477e9c6: Don't generate the spear of the Botono 10(25 minutes ago, 3 files, 3+ 8-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=477e9c60f9a5 19:16:18 ircplayscrawl worked better with no 10 second delay (but still entailed lots of dying) 19:16:37 <_miek> yeah pokemon works because its basically impossible to lose if you go at it enough 19:16:47 MPA storm! 19:16:53 yay 19:17:02 MarvinPA: massive 19:17:06 rip hex enhancers!!! 19:18:40 i really want to do some cleanup on monster demonspawn in the vein of that tomb stuff (particularly removing the facets and just making them "demonspawn ") but that will take some time i think 19:19:17 and i'll probably try and finish up this ely stuff first 19:19:37 -!- ldierk has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:20:09 MarvinPA: do you have time to (tersely) lay out your Ely plan? 19:21:28 pretty much just: piety from exploration, no piety from pacification/weapon destruction, only one pacification ability instead of two (based off old greater pacification and available at maybe 2* or 3*) 19:21:46 +1 19:22:04 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 19:22:04 the main thing there being to figure out a sensible rate of piety gain and piety cost on pacification 19:22:27 MarvinPA: How do you figure that anubis guards' control undead was "pretty unlikely to actually be used"? 19:22:27 PleasingFungus: You have 3 messages. Use !messages to read them. 19:22:32 -!- Bloax has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:22:36 MarvinPA: ok, sounds good 19:23:03 I agree that pacification should not be spammable... there are a number of ways to achieve that. I'd like it if pacification stayed in some form (even if expensive). 19:23:45 hmm -- looks like Ru does not successfully turn of training for the skills that it renders unusable 19:26:00 PleasingFungus: well i don't think many people assault tomb with undead armies 19:26:19 does it confuse undead players? 19:26:19 gammafunk: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 19:26:20 if it's purely meant as confusion against undead species then it should probably be called "confuse undead" or something instead 19:26:37 and not pretend to be a player spell that it isn't 19:27:01 !lm * tomb recent yred x=count(name) 19:27:01 44 milestones for * (tomb recent yred): count(name)=20 19:27:08 not too many, I suppose 19:27:11 though haunt does exist 19:27:28 well anyone casting haunt can cast better summons 19:27:29 well everything in tomb abjures anyway 19:27:57 (also, shadow creatures) 19:28:34 mainly I think it was intended as a player-undead confusing thing, yes, but I'm not sure the "edge case" of controlling players' undead allies is bad. in fact, it might be good 19:29:34 i think abjure is a pretty reasonable and general defence against summons in tomb, and as i say, if the main intention is to confuse undead it should be some new spell called confuse undead 19:30:15 -!- ldierk has joined ##crawl-dev 19:30:25 (and i would probably argue that that is not an especially interesting spell to add to already-overloaded tomb monsters) 19:31:58 eh 19:32:53 -!- link_108 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 19:33:48 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:34:12 -!- maldini has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:36:39 -!- link_108 has joined ##crawl-dev 19:36:58 !gamesby . 19:36:59 gammafunk has played 2572 games, between 2012-04-26 17:48:23 and 2015-01-28 01:09:13, won 24 (0.9%), high score 24084354, total score 139313851, total turns 14629199, play-time/day 2:06:21, total time 88d+10:47:06. 19:37:16 oh no, if I continue my streak my winrate will get to 1% or higher again 19:37:54 awful... 19:37:55 gammafunk: that's a conundrum :( 19:38:10 !gamesby dpeg 19:38:11 dpeg has played 2221 games, between 2006-12-15 12:29:19 and 2015-01-27 18:06:53, won 23 (1.0%), high score 2059249, total score 61554470, total turns 22862036, play-time/day 0:33:48, total time 69d+15:16:28. 19:38:15 haha 19:38:23 stop at 27 wins dpeg? 19:38:40 fwiw, I'm also sad to see forceful dismissal go, but I can understand the reasoning 19:39:13 I don't really agree that it didn't belong in summoning (imho it belonged as much as abjuration/aura of abjuration do), but it didn't really Work, and I'm not sure there was a way to tweak the numbers to make it work 19:39:18 -!- Siegurt has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 19:39:20 gammafunk: recently trying to win a troll. But that's hard for me! 19:39:34 !lg dpeg tr s=char 19:39:35 56 games for dpeg (tr): 14x TrMo, 11x TrBe, 7x TrFi, 6x TrHu, 4x TrAs, 3x TrTm, 3x TrEE, 2x TrCK, 2x TrIE, TrFE, TrWz, TrAM, TrNe 19:41:07 !lg dpeg trmo s=god 19:41:07 14 games for dpeg (trmo): 4x Dithmenos, 2x Cheibriados, 2x Ru, 2x, 2x Qazlal, Gozag, Okawaru 19:42:05 -!- jeanjacques has joined ##crawl-dev 19:44:39 !lg * gozag s=crace / won o=% 19:44:40 116/3991 games for * (gozag): 5/68x Hill Orc [7.35%], 5/81x Halfling [6.17%], 2/34x Kobold [5.88%], 3/53x Tengu [5.66%], 4/72x Ogre [5.56%], 16/312x Minotaur [5.13%], 5/102x Human [4.90%], 24/599x Spriggan [4.01%], 1/26x Naga [3.85%], 4/112x Vine Stalker [3.57%], 13/524x Octopode [2.48%], 6/242x Formicid [2.48%], 1/42x Deep Elf [2.38%], 12/542x Mummy [2.21%], 2/94x Vampire [2.13%], 5/267x Gargoyle... 19:44:49 er 19:45:44 -!- ZebTM has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 19:45:49 !lg dpeg won god=gozag 19:45:50 2. dpeg the Plane Walker (L27 SpAs of Gozag), escaped with the Orb and 5 runes on 2015-01-08 18:56:57, with 2059249 points after 157455 turns and 12:10:57. 19:45:54 !lg dpeg won god=gozag -1 19:45:55 2. dpeg the Plane Walker (L27 SpAs of Gozag), escaped with the Orb and 5 runes on 2015-01-08 18:56:57, with 2059249 points after 157455 turns and 12:10:57. 19:45:58 !lg dpeg won god=gozag -2 19:45:58 1/2. dpeg the Infernalist (L27 OpVM of Gozag), escaped with the Orb and 4 runes on 2014-11-17 16:14:00, with 1640711 points after 187421 turns and 9:54:17. 19:46:27 did Gehenna for the first time, after years... was fun with Gozag 19:47:00 neat! 19:47:02 did you bribe it? 19:47:09 sure, that is why I did it :) 19:47:13 -!- ldierk has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:47:26 still not happy with everything, but it's coming together 19:47:36 can do nothing about until in two weeks (term end is near etc.) 19:47:57 hrm, what was bribed geh like? 19:48:06 hellions jingling coin purses 19:48:14 I guess that might work okayish since many things aren't too high hd? 19:48:28 I assume the fund is spent by hd to some extent 19:48:39 -!- link_108 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:48:43 -!- read has quit [Quit: bye.] 19:49:12 !seen |amethyst 19:49:12 I last saw |amethyst at Mon Jan 26 01:30:29 2015 UTC (2d 18m 43s ago) saying 'Melenchuk sampling' on ##crawl-dev. 19:49:16 wow 19:49:19 quiet few days 19:50:00 PleasingFungus: A shard shrike (Slime:6) 19:50:04 second time I've done that now 19:50:06 oops 19:50:09 keep getting shard shrikes 19:50:16 (that was trj) 19:50:18 ya I figured 19:50:27 -!- Blazinghand|Work has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:50:34 !lm * current trunk uniq noun~~royal 19:50:35 2966. [2015-01-28 01:35:20] puppykicker the Fetichist (L25 VSGl of Okawaru) killed the royal jelly on turn 60631. (Slime:6) 19:50:35 tbh I think a caustic would be worse 19:50:39 !lm * current trunk uniq noun~~royal s=noun 19:50:40 2966 milestones for * (current trunk uniq noun~~royal): 2823x the royal jelly, 75x the titan shaped Royal Jelly, 37x the shard shrike shaped Royal Jelly, 8x the golden dragon shaped Royal Jelly, 7x the Killer Klown shaped Royal Jelly, 6x the iron dragon shaped Royal Jelly, 5x the acid blob shaped Royal Jelly, 2x the shadow dragon shaped Royal Jelly, your royal jelly, the frost giant shaped Royal J... 19:50:40 gammafunk: hell is supposed to be cheap: when I reached Asmodeus, the two 1's in the anteroom joined me <3 19:50:46 aha 19:50:48 dang, shard shrike is way up there 19:50:55 yeah the hd is just right I guess 19:50:56 royal jelly (08J) | Spd: 14 | HD: 21 | HP: 230 | AC/EV: 8/4 | Dam: 5008(acid:7d3), 3008(acid:7d3) | 04eats items, see invisible | Res: 06magic(180), 03poison, 08acid+++, asphyx, 08blind, 12drown | Vul: 11silver | XP: 14176 | Sz: Medium | Int: plant. 19:50:56 %??the royal jelly 19:50:59 titan (06C) | Spd: 10 | HD: 20 | HP: 91-130 | AC/EV: 10/3 | Dam: 55 | 10doors, fighter, spellcaster, see invisible | Res: 06magic(180), 10elec++, 12drown | XP: 2592 | Sp: b.lightning (3d24), minor healing (2d10), airstrike (0-50) | Sz: Giant | Int: high. 19:50:59 %??titan 19:51:01 unknown monster: "shard shrike" 19:51:01 %??shard shrike 19:51:04 oh 19:51:05 right 19:51:09 someone should really fix that 19:51:16 -!- ldierk has joined ##crawl-dev 19:51:24 anyway, hd 21 19:51:37 I think |amethyst has to upgrade gcc somewhere or move cheibriados somewhere 19:51:55 it worked the first zap, which was nice 19:52:17 last time it failed after a bunch, and I had to reset the fight, but it worked a couple times in the second fight 19:52:40 ya I know he does, I just forgot he hadn't yet 19:53:09 wow, do people really poly trj that frequently 19:53:23 It's a fun "tech" move. 19:53:26 if I have 15 evo I do it 19:53:27 i guess it's sort of a real tech yeah 19:53:29 It's popular because it's fancy 19:53:35 it's generally less hassle 19:53:42 clearly poly'd trj should spit out same-genus monsters 19:53:46 noooo 19:53:49 MarvinPA: <3 19:54:06 you already took away my beloved trj drowning with the water card! 19:54:24 gammafunk: this is playerthink! :) 19:54:48 it's really great how we have the ?vuln scroll, so you don't even any buffs you might have up before reading 19:55:06 I guess the old scroll was called vuln, I actually forget 19:55:19 it was 19:55:26 dpeg: playing crawl more starts to make playerthink creep into your brain 19:55:27 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:55:34 it'll pass soon, don't worry 19:55:45 gammafunk: I know. But we have to fight this evil temptation! 19:56:13 -!- ldierk has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:56:13 %git :/median 19:56:13 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.16-a0-3760-g3ef0081: Calculate the median in &^Ib 10(4 days ago, 1 file, 25+ 6-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=3ef0081deac7 19:57:24 PleasingFungus: oh, that's not quite the median 19:57:44 you're supposed to average the middle-two when n is even 19:57:45 but hey 19:58:52 over, what is it, 272k samples? 19:58:52 PleasingFungus: where is items.stat supposed to write to? 19:58:53 well, actually yeah that's not great to do for even-length vectors of small size 19:58:54 I don't think it matters 19:59:04 Lasty: a file called items.stat in your current directory 19:59:14 huh. I guess it doesn't exist then. 19:59:21 ? 19:59:24 it creates the file 19:59:25 PleasingFungus: yeah but you made a general function; I'll fix it up later on 19:59:29 o 19:59:32 PleasingFungus: seems like it isn't for me 19:59:36 hm 19:59:40 windows unreasons, maybe 19:59:48 wait, no, there it is 19:59:52 wtf windows find 19:59:59 lasty... 20:00:03 you have mingw find don't you 20:00:14 yeah, probably 20:00:15 -!- ldierk has joined ##crawl-dev 20:00:16 well I guess you don't look at a lot of stuff in mingw 20:00:33 not normally, no 20:00:37 Apparently I should tho 20:00:52 it's recursive by default, so find wouldn't be the command really 20:00:58 ls item* or something 20:01:13 -!- MrScumbag1 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:01:14 yeah. I mistakenly ruled it out as being in that dir because git status wasn't showing it 20:01:22 ah yeah 20:02:27 interesting... 20:02:27 hmm. My rererewrite of the artefacts property selection is doing mean 2.25 median 2 good props, mean 0.60 median 1 bad props, 1.65 avg good props - bad props. 20:02:33 Doesn't sound too bad, right? 20:03:43 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 20:03:49 well, I think it's reasonablish. 20:04:06 why are you rerewriting 20:04:13 I had good randarts today (better than props were aplenty) 20:04:38 PleasingFungus: tweaking property generation to impose more reasonable limits on number of properties 20:05:01 Currently we do too many 6+ property artefacts, and it's spammy 20:05:20 oops 20:05:32 .....I don't even know why I typed that 20:05:35 ha 20:05:54 anyway okay that sounds fine 20:05:57 !source wiz-item.cc 20:05:57 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/wiz-item.cc;hb=HEAD 20:06:00 Would you like to look at the patch before I push it, or just get sad and want to fix it after I push? 20:06:03 -!- link_108 has joined ##crawl-dev 20:06:25 the latter sounds good 20:06:28 sweet 20:07:37 -!- ldierk has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:09:48 This also adds a more distinct concept of artefact "quality", which we could use for something 20:10:05 n 20:10:37 !function nth_element 20:10:37 Can't find nth_element. 20:10:58 -!- HellTiger has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 20:11:13 !send gammafunk http://en.cppreference.com/w/cpp/algorithm/nth_element 20:11:13 Sending http://en.cppreference.com/w/cpp/algorithm/nth_element to gammafunk. 20:11:34 note the comment I put at the top of that function (it mutates the input vector) 20:11:35 -!- link_108 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20:12:15 03Lasty02 07* 0.16-a0-3815-gb0940ec: Redo randart good/bad property generation to reduce property spam 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 25+ 8-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=b0940ecfe9d6 20:13:02 yeah I read up on it, and see how to fix it up 20:13:07 just need a second mutation 20:13:13 it's a cool reference function tho 20:13:21 had never heard of it 20:13:47 upcoming blockbuster: the Nth Element 20:13:50 who's with me 20:14:01 -!- Wah has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:14:07 I did think that... 20:14:29 but just test evenness of length, and when even do two such mutations, one for (floor) size/2 one for size/2 + 1 20:14:36 average those values, return 20:14:46 also no floor needed wth 20:14:57 we don't need no stinking floors! 20:15:54 and I guess that's size / 2 - 1 and size / 2 since 0-indexing 20:16:27 -!- alefury has quit [] 20:16:43 !streak 20:16:44 gammafunk has 2 consecutive wins (HuSu, MfSk), and can keep going! 20:16:48 ??gammafunk[3 20:16:49 gammafunk[3/12]: CeAM^Oka NaVM^Chei MiBe^(Trog->TSO->Zin;15-rune) DEAs^Kiku HOFE^Beogh 20:16:53 Grunt: getting closer... 20:17:10 !lm hesu 20:17:11 No milestones for hesu. 20:17:15 !lm . hesu 20:17:15 3162. [2015-01-25 02:25:32] gammafunk the Summoner (L13 HESu of Sif Muna) left the Vaults on turn 11701. (Vaults:1) 20:17:26 gammafunk: ya I hadn't heard of it before either, I just googled "c++ median algorithm" 20:17:31 and that was the top result 20:17:32 heh, nice 20:17:33 google doin' work 20:17:42 was it stackedoverflow?! 20:17:45 gammafunk: mm 20:17:57 no it was 20:18:00 literally that page I linked 20:18:01 PleasingFungus: I'm fairly sure I am not the originator of The Grunt Algorithm btw :b 20:18:06 Grunt: I know 20:18:07 well that makes sense I guess 20:18:10 we've talked about that before 20:18:13 it's funnier to say you are tho 20:18:17 but I was amused when I finally noticed that comment the other day <3 20:18:28 yeah someone told us it's http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reservoir_sampling 20:18:41 pretty sure that was neil 20:18:43 ya 20:19:00 neil? telling us about computer science stuff?! that's just absurd!!!!! 20:19:46 it's such a counterintuitive algorithm - I think pretty much everyone gets tripped up by it the first time they see it 20:19:53 -!- nicolae- has joined ##crawl-dev 20:20:11 -!- link_108 has joined ##crawl-dev 20:20:19 -!- raskol has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 20:20:38 rip spear of the botono 20:20:44 yep, it's pretty cool like that 20:22:28 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.16-a0-3816-g723566f: Add yet another boring word 10(62 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=723566f7a8ee 20:22:28 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.16-a0-3817-g8396757: Revert "Remove the pizza= initfile setting." 10(35 minutes ago, 4 files, 23+ 4-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=8396757f1949 20:22:28 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.16-a0-3818-g9d59d2f: Make pizza support more robust 10(20 minutes ago, 4 files, 12+ 6-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=9d59d2fa761a 20:22:28 03ChrisOelmueller02 {PleasingFungus} 07* 0.16-a0-3819-g986f71d: Shopping list: tweak entry display 10(2 days ago, 1 file, 5+ 3-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=986f71d49885 20:22:58 twelwe is gonna be pissed that you ripped him off 20:23:10 lol 20:23:25 was very amused when I found the commit that I reverted 20:23:34 %git 731edd76e0597e91b996864114b4c0cdc167c762 20:23:34 07kilobyte02 * 0.11-a0-1156-g731edd7: Remove the pizza= initfile setting. 10(2 years, 9 months ago, 5 files, 2+ 17-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=731edd76e059 20:23:41 ^ check the full commit message 20:23:54 ._. 20:24:02 PleasingFungus: thanks for the geoip suggestion, feel dumb i missed it 20:24:02 chequers: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 20:24:23 chequers: I didn't think of it at first either, it just came to me as I was biking to work this morning 20:24:24 lol 20:24:28 needed some time away to clear my head 20:24:50 where do you work, PF? 20:25:02 beautiful mountain view, california 20:25:11 googler detected 20:25:18 nope 20:25:19 ! 20:25:26 I just live with a googler (nrook) 20:25:29 don't work there (yet) 20:26:19 a googler, huh *sharpens knives* 20:26:47 -!- mizu_no__ has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 20:26:57 he was telling me about having lunch with brian walker and ken arnold last week 20:26:59 sounded like a good time 20:27:24 tbh I'm just mad he didn't invite me 20:27:54 you're not one of the in crowd yet 20:28:11 someday... 20:28:11 -!- spacet has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20:28:47 then PleasingFungus will code a thing that secretly sends all your crawl data to google 20:29:05 omg 20:29:12 if I implement google analytics on CPO 20:29:32 ??cpo 20:29:32 cpo[1/1]: DCSS server in Sydney. Webtiles: https://crawl.project357.org/ SSH: crawl@crawl.project357.org (pw joshua or key available via webtiles). Operated by chequers. 20:29:34 depths received 1055 unique hits this month 20:29:52 lol 20:30:11 !lm * start>=2015 depths x=count(name) 20:30:12 7310 milestones for * (start>=2015 depths): count(name)=650 20:30:15 aw 20:30:22 over here in Europe, google is seen almost dystopian by now :) 20:30:32 * bh isn't getting into this 20:30:38 .gmap src=cpo 20:30:39 1. alex the Brawler (L12 TrMo of Qazlal), mangled by a dire elephant on Lair:3 (gammafunk_lair_enchanted_lake) on 2014-10-23 13:50:31, with 15997 points after 10550 turns and 0:36:05. 20:30:41 what 20:30:47 wow 20:30:56 .elrank 20:30:57 1423 games for * (br=lair lvl>2 lvl<8 kmap!~entry kmap!~uniq kmap!~special_ kmap!~altar kmap!=): 88x gammafunk_lair_enchanted_lake, 77x bobbens_ice_dragon_lair, 61x ice2_lemuel, 55x dpeg_oklob_gauntlet, 53x dragon1_lemuel, 44x forest_paths, 43x minmay_lindwurm_lava, 39x minmay_lair_drake_nest, 38x worms_lemuel, 37x grunt_megastairs_3, 36x kilobyte_rumbling_trees, 36x grunt_megastairs_2, 33x minmay... 20:31:14 hm. i gotta make more lair vaults. 20:31:15 oklob only on place 4, gotta do something about it 20:31:16 .crushed src=cpo 20:31:17 1. Ultraviolent4 the Slayer (L25 FoFi of Okawaru), blasted by an octopode crusher (iron shot) on Depths:3 (wad_lake_hut) on 2014-11-28 09:45:18, with 463952 points after 77092 turns and 5:16:45. 20:31:34 !lg * ikiller=asterion src=cpo 20:31:35 2. Minkie the Earth Mage (L16 GrEE of Vehumet), blasted by Asterion (iron shot) on Lair:4 (guppyfry_snake_entry_island) on 2014-12-06 00:26:36, with 90462 points after 43938 turns and 4:46:19. 20:32:22 dpeg: not just in Europe . . . 20:32:31 -!- spacet_ is now known as spacet 20:33:42 what's the command to see which branch my vaults have killed the most people in 20:33:44 PleasingFungus: ummm but now spriggans can put meat on their pizzas and still say "mmmm", 20:33:48 my immersion is ruined 20:33:53 chequers: Oh, I saw you had a todo about reworking the display for webtiles-changes. I'm going to try porting the client (not the game) over bootstrap-react, which should give us better visuals and a better set of UI components 20:33:59 it's soy meat 20:34:09 * bh immerses MPA 20:34:20 they clearly pick off the meat 20:34:24 nicolae-: no one in the history of the world has said 'mmm' to soymeat 20:34:38 -!- Crehl has quit [Quit: Killed by a kitten] 20:34:59 -!- mauris has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:35:12 i hope you're planning to implement a parser to determine whether the defined topping is meat or not 20:35:23 bh: you'd be surprised! there's a lot of people in the world. 20:35:26 is "victory" suitable for vegetarians??? 20:35:29 -!- NomadJim has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:35:34 chequers: I will keep the css reasonable in terms of not clashing with the white text and black used by the webtiles game, but in any case any revamp there should wait until I do this 20:35:54 nicolae-: I had some amazing vegetarian chili 20:35:58 Lasty: yes, I can imagine. (And to many people here, digital progress is a Good Thing.) Etc. 20:36:10 http://allrecipes.com/recipe/the-best-vegetarian-chili-in-the-world/ 20:37:09 gammafunk: i was mostly caring abou thte lobby, which is ugly courier-on-black 20:37:30 -!- ldierk has joined ##crawl-dev 20:37:35 yeah what I'm talking about would primarily affect the lobby, the server-score page, and chat ui 20:37:36 gammafunk: one specific request: change the default font to non-monospace 20:37:44 03Lasty02 07* 0.16-a0-3820-g492871e: Give Ru the power to make you actually stop training something 10(6 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=492871e95995 20:37:53 yeah, anyhow tweaks like that can def. happen, but I just need to port stuff over 20:38:02 -!- gressup has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:38:13 currently edlothiol's stuff is using react, but it's very quick and dirty implementation 20:38:17 dev poll: how much ru piety do you think -2 XL is worth? Also, how much ru piety do you think -1 to all skill apts is worth? For reference, sacrificing all evo is worth ~70, courage/arcana is ~25, and words or dodging is ~28. 20:38:25 and components aren't properly reused etc 20:38:55 MarvinPA: slowly, step by step, I will destroy all of crawl's flavour. 20:39:00 soon, my victory will be complete..... 20:40:08 Lasty: does -2xl not have any affect on trained skills? 20:40:33 yes. It limits final XL to 25 tho 20:42:10 PleasingFungus: set your aims higher: turn Crawl's flavour into soy! 20:42:20 hrm, I feel you'd probably be able to gain back those xl pretty easilly with your still-at-present skill levels 20:42:25 -!- ldierk has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:42:27 * PleasingFungus liquifies! 20:43:04 I assume you'd not change any xl-related mutations 20:43:45 yeah 20:44:20 -!- strawberrybunny is now known as therealfakemoot 20:44:48 seems like it'd interact weirdly with ds 20:44:57 hm, flying prevents you from falling down the stairs 20:45:02 I guess that's ok 20:45:05 (in that you'd never take it, i guess) 20:45:15 (unless you already got all your muts) 20:45:49 doesn't that literally happen at xl 27 20:46:15 i don't think so, it's randomised and i'm pretty sure you can get them earlier 20:46:16 MarvinPA: it could, yeah. 20:47:12 -!- Menche has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20:47:12 more likely than not you'll get the last mut level or two at xl25-27 but you can have everything by even earlier if you're lucky, i think 20:47:58 maybe ds can get a species-specific sac offering, Sacrifice Future Mutations/Development/Growth etc 20:48:29 nah, just make the sacrifice worth more if it seems like they'll lose out on some mutation levels 20:48:32 Sacrifice Potential 20:49:06 sets your XL to 1 20:49:07 Sacrifice Growth: you lose all the stat upgrades in your future except for the selectable one 20:49:09 permanently 20:49:22 -!- eternal_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:49:40 i suggested a Sacrifice Potential once that reduces the maximum level of your XL and skills, the idea was that you would think about it differently since the effects wouldn't be immediate 20:49:42 Lasty: I wonder if cute felid tricks could happen where you kill yourself, then take that sac so it's easier to gain back the 2xl and also get back the life 20:49:45 i guess ultimately being at xl25 max probably isn't that big a deal? a bit of mhp and mmp 20:50:28 some insignificant MR, spell slots, maybe 1 stat points? 20:50:29 gammafunk: are you asking me to pretend that felids exist? 20:50:30 -s 20:50:42 lasty.. 20:50:45 !lg lasty fe won 20:50:45 fe is ambiguous: may be species or class. Use fe-- (Felid) or --fe (Fire Elementalist) to disambiguate 20:50:48 !lg lasty fe-- won 20:50:49 1. Lasty the Sabretooth (L26 FeBe of Trog), escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2014-08-15 12:51:35, with 1418218 points after 99011 turns and 6:19:39. 20:50:54 they clearly exist... 20:51:03 I've been hacked!!! 20:51:05 wow no need to get catty over this 20:51:08 <_< 20:52:00 -!- ldierk has joined ##crawl-dev 20:52:04 yeah I'd say that 2xl is actually worth less than sac evo, but it probably depends a lot on the char 20:52:08 and of course when you take it 20:53:03 way less than sac evo 20:53:06 sac evo is probably the biggest sacrifice 20:53:37 sac evo is a pain in the felid butt that's for sure! 20:53:53 Lasty: only until we nerf Evocations back to hell! 20:54:03 !nerf dpeg 20:54:03 * Sequell nerfs dpeg!!! 20:54:35 Here I stand, limping, one-eyed, impotent... and Grunt still nerfs me! 20:55:00 "limping, one-eyed, impotent" 20:55:05 i didn't want to say anything 20:55:08 sounds like a description of Henry James amirite? 20:56:00 -!- Lasty has left ##crawl-dev 20:56:06 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 20:56:31 more like his "henry james" if you know what i mean 20:56:31 Perhaps I should make a case that I cannot even stand: one-legged too! 20:56:38 !nerf dpeg's leg 20:56:38 * Sequell nerfs dpeg's leg!!! 20:56:49 -!- ldierk has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:56:54 Grunt: that is not legal! 20:56:55 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 20:56:57 -!- ZebTM has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20:57:22 !nerf the law 20:57:22 * Sequell nerfs the law!!! 20:57:27 * Grunt cackles. 20:57:29 how would you make your case, though, dpeg 20:57:32 you haven't got a leg to stand on 20:57:35 ! 20:57:39 (I nerfed the law and the law won) 20:57:55 i'm the law, and you can't nerf the law (nerf 'em, and their law) 20:59:33 -!- Pacra has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 21:00:34 -!- Yllodra has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 21:01:46 -!- Flun has joined ##crawl-dev 21:03:55 -!- futuresoup has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.0.1] 21:05:25 -!- AtomikKrab has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:05:25 -!- ldierk has joined ##crawl-dev 21:06:03 -!- Manslay[work] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 21:06:36 -!- moocowpong1 has joined ##crawl-dev 21:06:42 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 21:14:27 -!- rophy has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:14:31 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 21:15:05 hm 21:15:11 trying to enter a place that requires a rune, when you don't have a rune, takes a turn 21:15:38 no one fix that please, I'm just talking out loud while looking over Zannick's refactoring (which it's still present in) 21:15:49 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:16:01 i vaguely recall that being Hard To Fix (tm) 21:16:01 -!- ldierk has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 21:16:07 fix it so that trying to enter a place that requires a rune without a rune takes eighty tunes while you wail and gnash your teeth at the cruelty of fate 21:16:11 but might well be thinking of something completely different 21:16:15 it sounds plausible 21:16:22 nicolae-: eighty showtunes??? 21:16:33 whatever tunes you got 21:16:44 i think there's at least one thing that takes a turn and shouldn't and is Hard To Fix, but who knows if that's what the specific one i'm remembering 21:17:04 or something, that was almost a sentence that made sense 21:17:08 now i'm thinking about that twilight zone episode where the guy has all the books he can dream of but then his glasses break and now i'm thinking of a vault with a lot of books and a trap that gives you the blurry vision mutation, except that doesn't effect spellbook reading does it 21:17:27 sorry 21:17:36 it doubles the chance of memorization failure! 21:17:39 -!- ldierk has joined ##crawl-dev 21:17:43 *nods* 21:17:47 good. 21:18:00 now to make it possible to vault define a trap to give a specific mutation. i assume it will be trivial. 21:18:12 obv 21:18:34 man, wish there was a glyphs page for features 21:19:06 hm? 21:19:13 ??glyphs 21:19:13 glyphs[1/2]: http://s-z.org/neil/tmp/crawl-glyphs-narrow.html — Generated with the script http://s-z.org/neil/tmp/crawl-glyphs 21:19:20 like that, but for features instead of monsters 21:19:25 ahh, right 21:19:38 or maybe just that, but including features 21:19:41 either/or 21:21:07 human skeleton (15Z) | Spd: 8 | HD: 6 | HP: 33-50 | AC/EV: 0/6 | Dam: 8 | 07undead, evil | Res: 06magic(8), 02cold++, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 36 | Sz: Medium | Int: plant. 21:21:07 %??human_skeleton 21:21:20 human zombie (07Z) | Spd: 8 | HD: 6 | HP: 39-61 | AC/EV: 1/8 | Dam: 8 | 07undead, evil | Res: 06magic(8), 02cold++, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 42 | Sz: Medium | Int: plant. 21:21:20 %??human_zombie 21:24:22 -!- Lawman0 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:28:07 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 21:28:07 The build has errored. (master - 986f71d #1662 : Chris Oelmueller): http://travis-ci.org/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/builds/48574975 21:28:07 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 21:30:25 -!- ldierk has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 21:34:24 -!- MgDark has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:35:22 -!- ZebTM has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:39:41 -!- link_108 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:41:17 -!- dididi has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 21:41:50 -!- ldierk has joined ##crawl-dev 21:48:28 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:49:25 -!- Pisano has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:49:32 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 21:51:33 -!- markgo has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 21:52:43 -!- nicolae- has left ##crawl-dev 21:54:51 -!- moocowpong1 has quit [Quit: moocowpong1] 21:54:57 -!- gressup has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:58:55 -!- WalkerBoh has joined ##crawl-dev 22:00:24 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:00:58 -!- Rivotril has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:02:51 -!- Kramell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:05:13 -!- ldierk has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:10:58 hm 22:11:04 gammafunk: can you look at something for me? 22:11:29 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:12:12 yeah 22:12:24 but after that I have to go grocery shopping 22:12:27 o 22:12:39 and believe nothing on this earth will stop me from purchasing groceries this evening 22:12:42 !!! 22:12:47 http://sprunge.us/CFFc I'm trying to figure out how to get this to update tiles 22:13:02 when the trap triggers and also when it reactivates 22:13:14 I tried updating map knowledge but that doesn't seem to do anything 22:13:55 -!- speranza has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 22:14:03 heh, ammo_qty 22:14:18 :( 22:14:41 Cerebov (05&) | Spd: 10 | HD: 21 | HP: 650 | AC/EV: 30/8 | Dam: 60 | 05demonic, 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, fighter, see invisible | Res: 06magic(160), 05hellfire, 04fire+++, 03poison, 12drown, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 15000 | Sp: fire storm (8d17 / 8d16) [06!sil], iron shot (3d36) [06!sil], haste [06!sil], sum.greater demon [06!sil] | Sz: Giant | Int: normal. 22:14:41 %??cerebov 22:15:03 does anyone remember who made this? http://crawl.develz.org/wordpress/status/playerstatus.js 22:15:16 yeah, he was just around the other day 22:15:24 oh yes https://github.com/bstrie/dcss-playerstatus 22:15:28 thanks chrome history 22:15:31 !seen bstrie 22:15:31 Sorry chequers, I haven't seen bstrie. 22:15:31 -!- ldierk has joined ##crawl-dev 22:16:02 what does that do? 22:16:09 http://crawl.develz.org/wordpress/player-status 22:16:15 interesting, let me try to test this patch 22:16:24 Retrieving data 22:16:28 it's slow 22:16:43 gammafunk: also feel free to suggest glyph colours 22:17:10 how slow exactly 22:17:12 oh, the blue always gets me since those traps are so nasty but blue shows up not super great 22:17:18 that's a fault of my console colours though 22:17:41 ah, there it goes 22:19:04 chequers: I think it's Wensley's 22:19:49 huh 22:19:54 Error (dc-feat.txt:242): couldn't load image 'shadow_dormant'. 22:20:02 oh 22:20:08 your diff doesn't have said image 22:20:24 can you link said image? 22:20:44 I guess I can just copy jormungandr or something 22:21:47 one sec 22:21:49 nm I copied golubria 22:21:54 ok 22:22:43 -!- Ququman has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:25:53 -!- markgo` has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:29:35 PleasingFungus: oh 22:29:46 I think you need something much more like 22:29:54 !function _revert_terrain_to 22:29:54 1/1. http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/terrain.cc;hb=HEAD#l51 22:30:02 as in !destroy_wall 22:30:05 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:30:07 er 22:30:11 !function destroy_wall 22:30:12 1/1. http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/terrain.cc;hb=HEAD#l1713 22:30:31 this is not terrain but 22:30:39 oh I guess it is really isn't it 22:30:52 hrm 22:30:59 env.map_knowledge(p).flags |= MAP_CHANGED_FLAG; 22:31:01 is one thing I see 22:31:11 and then 22:31:11 -!- NomadJim has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:31:13 dungeon_events.fire_position_event(DET_FEAT_CHANGE, p); 22:31:19 but that one might not be necessary 22:31:31 -!- st_ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 22:31:32 -!- bullock has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:31:37 oh and los_terrain_changed 22:32:22 PleasingFungus: yeah in general I'm not sure how thorough you need to be here, but I think you need to set more data with this change 22:33:08 -!- staplegun has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 22:33:17 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 22:33:18 this wouldn't change los so los_terrain_changed looks like it's not necessary 22:33:50 ok, I'll poke around there 22:33:52 PleasingFungus: my guess is that you may be able to get by with env.map_knowledge(p).flags |= MAP_CHANGED_FLAG; 22:33:52 thanks! 22:33:59 np 22:34:01 -!- ldierk has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:40:03 -!- Lasty_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:40:18 hm 22:40:19 that did nothing 22:47:10 the flag, it does nothing 22:48:50 it's grunt!!! 22:49:02 the Grunt, he does nothing 22:50:42 pfft 22:51:18 !goggles 22:51:30 that did nothing :( 22:52:16 the !goggles, it -- *shot* 22:52:58 literally the joke....... 22:53:12 rip the joke 22:54:11 ya rip 22:54:45 ugh 22:54:48 nothing I'm trying works :( 22:56:41 wait, got it 22:57:01 unrip 23:00:14 carousel prototype to show live games on the frontpage, opinions? https://crawl.project357.org/static/dcss-web/index.carousel.htm 23:00:20 these screenshots are 100% final and will not be changed 23:00:48 -!- link_108 has joined ##crawl-dev 23:00:59 chequers: enjoying your domino's? 23:01:33 TIT 23:01:37 hm 23:01:40 Hey, it's me! 23:01:45 I'm famous 23:01:51 1learn add Kramin 23:02:09 chequers: http://i.imgur.com/l7gnRtL.png maybe a 1 pixel shadow on the text? 23:02:30 I'm so good I've got 7 runes at XL9 23:02:36 -!- link_108 has quit [Client Quit] 23:02:47 !lm * xl=9 max=urune 23:02:49 814482. [2010-07-27 18:35:19] syllogism the Tainter (L9 SpVM of Elyvilon) entered the realm of Cerebov on turn 45915. (Pan) 23:02:53 !lm * xl=9 max=urune x=urune 23:02:55 814482. [2010-07-27 18:35:19] [urune=2] syllogism the Tainter (L9 SpVM of Elyvilon) entered the realm of Cerebov on turn 45915. (Pan) 23:03:00 wow 23:03:19 syllogism the exploiter 23:03:20 also is there any way to get this thing to stop scrolling.... 23:03:28 -!- Flun has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:04:49 -!- markgo`` has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 23:05:03 PleasingFungus: i was thinking a black shadow blox around hte entire caption 23:05:09 like 80% opacity 23:05:18 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.16-a0-3821-ge666773: Disable shadow traps temporarily after firing (elliptic) 10(6 minutes ago, 13 files, 73+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=e66677352933 23:06:03 TODO: don't do this 23:06:05 !banish PleasingFungus 23:06:06 Grunt casts a spell. PleasingFungus is cast into Hell! 23:06:20 Grunt: imo do it better 23:06:21 <_< 23:06:28 trap_def.special 23:06:31 trap_def.number 23:06:38 trap_def.parm3 23:09:22 -!- Hurricos has joined ##crawl-dev 23:09:36 Not to try to get Petrify (lev4 trmut / earth) nerfed, but ... 23:09:44 are monster gargoyles meant to be able to be petrified? 23:09:51 Same with efreets. 23:10:10 I would say "no" and "v0v" respectively 23:10:27 Well, monster gargs _can_ be petrified 23:10:38 gonna have to check wisps when I get to swamp. 23:11:00 In other news, petrify is a really nice spell for stabbers, and even more especially for Felids that need statue form anyways and can stab with UC hands 23:11:11 ok 23:11:11 Very pleased. 23:11:17 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 23:11:19 PleasingFungus: that seems pretty much the same as disabling them permanently after firing? it's not like you're going to walk over or lead monsters into a known shadow trap 23:11:20 Should I submit a bug report, or is this pedantic? 23:11:37 minmay: you may end up avoiding the part of the level that the shadow trap is in, yes 23:11:45 -!- AtomikKrab has joined ##crawl-dev 23:11:46 that is obviously the same as removing the trap 23:11:55 Hurricos: looks like efreet are not insubstantial, which is why they can be petrified 23:12:02 PleasingFungus: shadow traps take up one square not 100 23:12:04 I don't feel strongly at all about whether they should be insubstantial 23:12:09 minmay: LOS is real 23:12:23 PleasingFungus: do you avoid entire parts of the level because there's a zot trap in them? I don't, I avoid 1 square 23:12:31 sure 23:13:12 -!- markgo` has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:13:24 PleasingFungus: Thank you. Just going to ignore gargoyles and test it out on other things 23:13:30 the only time I have ever found a known zot (or shadow) trap changed my tactics that I can recall is when they blocked zot:5 lungs, which is uncommon and not really important 23:13:39 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 23:14:12 I've seen them show up on vaults:5 blocking quadrant entrances (watching gammafunk) - he didn't avoid one and nearly got killed because of it 23:14:47 well yeah obviously I don't mean that you should lead monsters directly into the trap. jesus 23:15:21 well he means avoid as in "don't enter its los" 23:15:26 I didn't exactly lead a monster to it 23:15:57 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.16-a0-3822-gb254462: Give monster gargoyles rPetrify (Hurricos) 10(37 seconds ago, 1 file, 3+ 3-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=b2544625dcdb 23:16:01 they're also kind of new and I forget about them, especially with them being friggin blue 23:16:10 gammafunk: imo choose a better colour (or colours) 23:16:19 maybe an exciting etc 23:16:33 the way they're implemented does make them very difficult to notice in the first place, true 23:16:40 since there are so many other things nowadays that can make a monster cloud appear 23:17:36 i usually think "oh, some orc read a summoning scroll (10 turns later) oh it was a shadow trap" 23:17:53 heh, yeah I found myself asking that question a bunch 23:17:59 I guess I could change the message to not be literally the same message 23:18:08 but since neither one is dangerous I guess it doesn't really matter 23:20:06 actually you can even abjure those shadow c. 23:20:12 and I could have even done so on v. 5 23:20:21 but I think I only realized that later on 23:25:11 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.16-a0-3820-g492871e (34) 23:25:20 just play tiles 23:25:28 :3 23:25:29 haha n00b 23:25:49 minmay: I agree it's bad that DD start with /hw, but the effect of them finding one then becomes pretty silly 23:26:25 -!- NomadJim has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:26:26 I guess you'd just remove the wand recharge thing 23:26:35 -!- ldierk has joined ##crawl-dev 23:26:56 and then it's like, why would you ever play DD when VS exists 23:27:39 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [Firefox 34.0.5/20141126041045]] 23:27:55 -!- link_108 has joined ##crawl-dev 23:30:21 gammafunk: yeah I forgot to mention that it would include removing the recharge thing 23:30:24 -!- markgo` has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:30:25 gammafunk: or only allow them to use it on rods 23:31:22 gammafunk: same reason you'd play [species other than current DD or Ce] when current DD or Ce exists I guess 23:31:22 -!- markgo` has quit [Client Quit] 23:32:31 -!- markgo`` has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 23:33:32 -!- read has joined ##crawl-dev 23:37:15 -!- Brannock has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 23:39:00 -!- dtsund has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 23:41:49 -!- dinosaur has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:43:37 -!- ldierk has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 23:47:21 -!- ldierk has joined ##crawl-dev 23:49:19 -!- ZebTM has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 23:51:04 -!- muravey_ has quit [Quit: Be back later ...] 23:51:34 !tell drke Ranking Sif below Qaz is a good way to get your tavern post history entirely deleted, getting banned from all crawl channels, your account deleted and wins annulled. People won't say, "hey what happened to DrKe?", they simply won't speak of you. It will be as if you never existed. 23:51:34 gammafunk: OK, I'll let drke know. 23:53:25 rip drke 23:53:25 DrKe: You have 2 messages. Use !messages to read them. 23:54:37 sif does have more appeal to me now that there is no such thing as a "book of wizardry" 23:54:45 i might use her 23:55:38 my first victory was qazlal 23:55:46 -!- eternal_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:55:55 that is just so sad, chequers 23:56:38 i don't see why people hate qaz 23:56:41 i wanna kill things 23:56:48 qaz makes them come to me 23:57:27 Crawl doesn't feel terribly fun with Q because of that 23:57:52 i dont think putting qaz = atheist for extended is going too far 23:58:14 atheists can benefit from things like not having to fight entire levels 23:58:16 My only Q game was a tr, so yeah you can beat through enemies with some char 23:58:36 -!- link_108 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:58:42 DrKe: holy fucking shit did you see berder's reply to your topic 23:58:59 its pretty much what you would expect him to say 23:59:09 " I'm not sure why Yred in particular places so low; can anyone think of an explanation? He does seem like a good early game god. Maybe it's simply because Yred is taken usually by melee characters" 23:59:23 ~ berder, on Yred's low winrate 23:59:39 i mean im not sure if i needed to add a section saying that the tiers only apply if you know how to use a god 23:59:57 so polling every trunk game ever isnt really helpful at all