00:00:22 oh. earlier today i had a think. would it slightly improve the variety of special rooms if they didn't necessarily generate as rectangles. 00:00:23 <|amethyst> actually it looks like install-* don't run in the chroot 00:01:32 -!- weezefac_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:01:48 nicolae-: 1.4 diagonal special room cost 00:02:01 -!- WalkerBoh has joined ##crawl-dev 00:02:35 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.16-a0-3670-g35b05c8 (34) 00:02:44 -!- weezeface has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:03:52 -!- weezeface has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:05:36 -!- halberd has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 00:06:01 -!- weezefac_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:07:05 -!- weezefac_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:07:15 -!- Brannock has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 00:08:14 -!- weezeface has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:09:49 -!- weezeface has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:10:41 -!- weezeface has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:11:13 |amethyst: do you know a way to check if a given char is uppercase/lowercase? 00:11:35 isupper islower i think 00:12:04 -!- weezeface has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:13:04 -!- weezeface has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:13:38 <|amethyst> or for ASCII in Crawl isaupper isalower 00:13:59 -!- weezeface has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:14:57 -!- halberd has quit [Changing host] 00:15:00 -!- weezeface has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:16:12 -!- weezeface has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:16:14 oh, isaalpha wasn't a typo 00:16:36 hrm, I guess it'd be difficult to write an "is_plural" 00:16:41 !function isaalpha 00:16:41 given 00:16:41 1/1. http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/libutil.h;hb=HEAD#l45 00:16:43 english 00:17:16 PleasingFungus: looks like libutil.h is your....header...there 00:17:24 your friendly header 00:17:31 -!- weezeface has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:17:42 my favourite! 00:17:52 #define TAG_UNFOUND -20404 00:17:55 v. mysterious 00:18:02 -!- weezeface has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:18:48 -!- SomeStupidGuy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:19:11 <|amethyst> it's used for strip_number_tag so it doesn't have to return a pair or take a bool outparam or something 00:19:38 <|amethyst> meaning you'd better not try to have a -20404 weapon 00:19:54 <|amethyst> in an itemspec I mean 00:21:15 heh, and template bool always_true(T) { return true; } 00:21:28 probably a few good functions in here I could have used at one point or another 00:21:30 hm 00:21:32 this is odd 00:21:47 do we document fake languages anywhere, now that we wiped out the main default rcfile>? 00:22:04 night 00:22:06 -!- nicolae- has left ##crawl-dev 00:22:13 init.txt basically just points to options_guide.txt, and options_guide.txt doesn't mention any langs anywhere, as far as I can tell... 00:22:30 ...also, we have a section labeled "DOS and Windows" 00:23:42 well and in libutil.h, with @brief System independent functions 00:23:52 we have 202 #ifdef TARGET_OS_WINDOWS 00:24:11 but I guess it's relatively independent anyhow 00:24:20 yeah I don't see doc. on the fake languages either 00:24:45 I will document them. 00:24:47 also 00:24:56 FAQ.html ? 00:25:11 why html I wonder 00:26:35 I think I will not document the real languages, since we don't support them. 00:26:43 Is there a cheating mode to Crawl where I can play without dying? 00:26:43

00:26:43 A: Press +! 00:26:48 ...dubious 00:26:52 oh or 00:26:54 that's autogenerated from somewhere 00:26:55 is that the exploration mode 00:26:57 yes 00:27:00 I wrote that 00:27:05 but not in an html file 00:27:22 yeah it's weird that it's html and not pdf 00:27:30 <|amethyst> util/FAQ2html.pl 00:27:34 heh 00:27:38 double heh 00:27:44 <|amethyst> ooh, regexps 00:27:53 <|amethyst> now you have N problems 00:28:15 <|amethyst> oh hm 00:28:22 <|amethyst> apparently there was just an explosion on campus 00:28:24 geeze 00:28:27 !!! 00:28:31 <|amethyst> a block from my house 00:28:33 this is like a whole elaborate thign this script 00:28:35 <|amethyst> I thought I heard something 00:28:37 oh crap 00:28:42 <|amethyst> but assumed it was a car accident 00:28:46 imo don't die 00:28:48 I tought that was a setup for a joke 00:28:50 about regexps 00:28:52 <|amethyst> I imagine someone hit a gas line or something 00:28:52 if you die in real life 00:28:56 you don't get to start another character!!! 00:29:01 your streak is over forever...... 00:29:04 <|amethyst> :) 00:29:09 !streak neil 00:29:13 Neil has 2 wins, none consecutive, with a minimum of 810 games between wins. 00:29:15 ! 00:29:16 <|amethyst> !streak neil won 00:29:17 Neil has 2 consecutive wins (SpSt, HOHe), and can keep going! 00:29:43 !streak . won 00:29:43 gammafunk has 21 consecutive wins (HEFi, OpTm, DsDK, DsNe, VpIE, DrMo, HaCj, OpDK, GrDK, GhEE, FeCK, OgAr, KoHu, HEIE, DgWn, SpEn, TrWr, MuGl, TeAE, DDHe, FoAK), and can keep going! 00:29:48 incredible streak 00:29:51 !streak !sebi won 00:30:00 greensnark has 24815 consecutive wins (TeAE, OMWz, DsGl, DsWz, SEVM, DsCj, DsWz, GhFi, SEFE, DESu, DEFE, SEFE, DsWr, MuNe, HDFi, DEFE, DEFE, DESu, GnEE, SEVM, DsMo, DEFE, HEAE, MiFi, MDGl, MDFi, DEFE, DECj, SpAs, KoSt, DEWz, DEFE, MfTm, NaCj, DEIE, SEFE, SpSt, SEEE, GnEE, MiFi, MuNe, MfIE, SpEn, SETm, MDFE, DsFE, OMIE, MfIE, MDFi, DESu, HuCj, DrDK, HDGl, DgMo, DEFE, DsFi, CeHe, DsWn, TrBe, HDGl, H... 00:30:18 oops that probably pings him 00:30:18 -!- Siegurt has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 00:30:34 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.16-a0-3671-ge86740c: Add a new fake language 10(12 minutes ago, 3 files, 87+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=e86740c36ac0 00:30:34 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.16-a0-3672-g5198a9e: "Document" the language rcfile option 10(80 seconds ago, 1 file, 5+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=5198a9ee84e9 00:30:37 probably 00:30:37 oh well 00:31:14 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: oh, I assume you saw my git-hooks/pre-commit change? 00:31:18 yes! 00:31:22 sanity is restored 00:31:25 all is well... 00:31:38 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: if you're using a modified version of that rather than just calling out to it you might copy that part over 00:31:46 I'm pretty sure I'm using vanilla 00:32:02 yeah I need to update that hook 00:32:05 <|amethyst> you still might need to copy it over if you didn't use a symlink 00:32:42 I'm not sure if any of the whitespace stuff it does is even necessary at all with checkwhite 00:33:14 -!- demiskeleton has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:33:44 " So what the heck happened to autopickup and why does everything start as "do not pick up", hitting \ a-p, r-z, A, B at the start of every game sucks. " 00:33:51 been seeing a lot of complaints about this 00:34:01 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.16-a0-3673-g9825574: Fix the deck of summoning(s) description (Can of Worms) 10(65 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=9825574693f5 00:34:04 oh 00:34:06 it's a rcfile thing 00:34:07 apparently 00:34:22 I know someone was poking at rcfiles and apparently they broke a lot of rcfiles 00:34:38 "they" even explained this in the commit message! 00:34:39 yeahh remember when I was complaining! 00:34:42 oh 00:34:44 nm 00:35:01 elliptic: alas, we may never know their true identity... 00:35:05 a mystery, lost to time! 00:35:11 -!- lagged has quit [Quit: leaving] 00:35:39 I gues that instance was just me toggling the unided scrolls after all 00:35:47 anyway yeah I realized that I was breaking my own rcfile and that a ton of people had copied that part from me or from someone else 00:36:15 what's the commit, since I'm probably guilty of that too 00:36:31 but I figured that anyone who had stolen autopickup code from someone would be able to figure this out and fix it/steal the fix 00:36:41 !gitgrep 1 add_autopickup_func 00:36:41 %git HEAD^{/add_autopickup_func} 00:36:41 07elliptic02 * 0.16-a0-3636-gf0307c9: Merge add_autopickup_func and add_no_autopickup_func; add clear_autopickup_funcs. 10(3 days ago, 5 files, 50+ 34-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=f0307c90bf47 00:36:46 ty 00:37:21 basically a lot of add_autopickup_func used "return false" even though that used to be the same as no return 00:37:50 and now return false actually means that the item definitely won't be on autopickup 00:38:14 people tend to forget they have rcfile stuff, I think 00:38:21 people who don't habitually mess with it 00:38:33 looks like I don't use an autopickup function 00:39:44 &rc elliptic 00:39:46 http://dobrazupa.org/rcfiles/crawl-git/elliptic.rc 00:39:55 -!- Veraticus has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:41:08 oh, those pickups for weapons,armour would probably save some embarrassing lapses 00:42:01 -!- PepeRC2 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 00:46:51 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.16-a0-3673-g9825574 (34) 00:49:43 btw I just realized that there's a good poster on tavern 00:49:51 which is crazy and I don't understand how it happened 00:49:51 <|amethyst> "The emergency condition has passed, all conditions are normal and you may safely resume your regularly scheduled activity." 00:49:55 probably a cosmic glitch 00:49:56 of some kind 00:49:57 <|amethyst> I guess it wasn't much of an explosion 00:50:00 |amethyst: :) 00:50:02 glad to hear it! 01:04:16 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [Firefox 34.0.5/20141126041045]] 01:05:06 -!- Wah has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:05:27 -!- schistosoma has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:05:45 -!- Akitten_Homura has quit [Quit: Connection reset by pier.] 01:12:40 -!- weezeface has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 01:14:55 -!- moocowpong1 has joined ##crawl-dev 01:18:44 |amethyst: the dgl instructions don't say, but do I have to run install-webserver.sh at some point? 01:23:45 <|amethyst> that's a new thing 01:23:50 <|amethyst> so it's not necessarily even working 01:24:15 <|amethyst> the changes in webtiles-changes branch are untested 01:24:21 <|amethyst> but that's the idea 01:24:24 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 01:25:06 <|amethyst> one problem is it needs the other half, update-crawl-webtiles-build, at least to check out the repo and do the js minification 01:25:41 <|amethyst> which isn't written but would be based on the trunk one, but with a different compile command and probably other thing 01:25:55 <|amethyst> that script is in crawl-build/ 01:26:57 ok thanks 01:30:52 -!- omnirizon has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:36:17 <|amethyst> and something in the dgl-config config (dgl-manage.conf? crawl-git.conf?) needs to specify the webtiles branch 01:36:29 <|amethyst> so it can be switched over once webtiles-changes is in trunk 01:36:58 <|amethyst> I guess that could just be hard-coded in that script if it's just one thing to change, but I suspect at least two 01:37:28 <|amethyst> anyway, I'm off for the night, thanks for working on this 01:41:38 -!- Pepe has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:42:33 np 01:43:53 -!- Moanerette has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:44:39 -!- cloud4ge has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:45:38 -!- Kramell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:47:01 -!- Kramell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:48:23 -!- Kramell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:48:33 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 01:49:33 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:50:36 -!- Kramell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:51:04 -!- Evablue has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:59:05 -!- MgDark has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 02:04:03 -!- Evablue_ has quit [Quit: Evablue_] 02:06:14 -!- Siegurt has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 02:06:46 -!- zero_one has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:19:37 -!- markgo has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 02:21:35 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:21:35 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.16-a0-3673-g9825574 (34) 02:21:44 03gammafunk02 07[webtiles-changes] * 0.16-a0-3794-g912e21c: Add Makefile targets to build only the WebTiles client files 10(7 minutes ago, 1 file, 18+ 8-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=912e21c75b08 02:22:28 -!- Yllodra has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:26:33 -!- radinms has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 02:30:35 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 02:39:16 -!- zercules has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:40:31 -!- AtomikKrab has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:40:51 -!- PepeRC2 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 02:41:40 -!- moocowpong1 has quit [Quit: moocowpong1] 02:44:33 -!- simmarine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:46:29 -!- PepeRC2 has quit [Quit: rebuttal] 02:55:42 -!- LIX has quit [] 02:58:18 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 03:03:53 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 03:03:54 The build passed. 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13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=b70d9d36ba27 07:19:49 03gammafunk02 07[webtiles-changes] * 0.16-a0-3799-g9e6f64d: Initialize WebTiles logging after chroot 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=9e6f64d0f78d 07:21:39 -!- weezefac_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:22:28 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 07:22:48 -!- weezefac_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:24:00 !tell edlothiol With b70d9d3 we'd require tornado4, but that removes the need to use the custom fix in your tornado branch. tornado4 is easy to get with pip, and we'd get better asynch behaviour as well, but if it's a problem let me know, and I'll do something to allow both versions to work. 07:24:00 gammafunk: You have 2 messages. Use !messages to read them. 07:24:00 gammafunk: OK, I'll let edlothiol know. 07:24:45 -!- weezefac_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:24:55 -!- FlowRiser has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:26:17 -!- weezeface has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:27:18 -!- weezeface has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:28:37 -!- weezeface has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:30:26 -!- weezefac_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:32:00 hm. think there's any value in releasing a standalone archive of crawl tiles? On one hand, anyone who wants to use them can easily do so, on the other, it might be a nice gesture 07:32:21 -!- weezeface has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:32:25 though there's the downside of creating one more thing to maintain 07:33:08 -!- Moonsilence has quit [] 07:34:27 -!- weezefac_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:35:55 -!- Blazinghand_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:36:18 -!- weezeface has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:37:27 -!- weezeface has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:38:16 -!- weezeface has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:39:18 -!- weezeface has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:40:31 -!- weezeface has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:41:15 -!- weezeface has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:42:30 -!- weezeface has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:44:03 -!- weezeface has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:44:47 -!- weezefac_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:46:27 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 07:46:42 -!- weezefac_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:48:46 -!- weezeface has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:50:14 -!- weezeface has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:50:55 -!- weezefac_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:51:26 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 07:52:49 -!- weezefac_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:53:59 -!- weezefac_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:55:16 -!- weezeface has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:57:08 -!- weezeface has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:58:44 -!- weezeface has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:58:58 -!- FlowRiser has joined ##crawl-dev 07:59:31 -!- weezefac_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:00:39 -!- weezeface has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:01:57 -!- weezeface has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:03:45 -!- weezefac_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:04:54 -!- weezefac_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:06:01 -!- weezeface has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:07:30 -!- weezeface has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:08:20 -!- weezeface has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:08:59 uh 08:09:02 -!- gammafunk has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:09:15 potentially dumb question but how the hell do I find where/how something is defined in the source 08:10:11 kvaak: You want to find the declaration of a particular function? 08:10:23 -!- weezefac_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:10:42 well in this particular instance I'd like to find where does it say "demonspawn aren't allowed to follow good gods" 08:11:22 ok. That's god code, so religion.cc is probably a good place to start 08:11:25 -!- weezefac_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:11:40 If you search that file for SP_DEMONSPAWN you'll probably find the answer 08:12:31 kvaak: there we go -- player_can_join_god 08:12:33 -!- weezeface has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:12:35 yeah, found it 08:12:44 I just couldn't find it in any of the god 08:13:49 -!- weezeface has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:15:41 -!- weezefac_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:17:47 -!- weezeface has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:19:58 -!- weezefac_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:20:01 -!- rockygargoyle has joined ##crawl-dev 08:20:26 -!- weezefa__ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:21:37 -!- weezeface has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:22:47 -!- weezeface has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:24:44 -!- weezefac_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:25:08 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 08:25:51 -!- weezefac_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:27:06 uh 08:27:06 -!- weezeface has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:27:28 kvaak: what's up? 08:27:59 oh, actually never mind 08:28:10 -!- weezeface has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:28:10 it's just buttbot 08:30:16 -!- weezefac_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:32:04 -!- weezeface has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:33:11 -!- weezeface has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:34:21 -!- weezeface has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:35:46 -!- weezeface has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:36:18 anyone good with graphing in the house? 08:36:18 Lasty: You have 3 messages. Use !messages to read them. 08:36:21 -!- jeanjacques has joined ##crawl-dev 08:37:26 kvaak: congrats on compiling! 08:39:03 -!- weezefac_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:42:38 -!- weezeface has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:43:50 -!- weezeface has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:44:51 -!- weezeface has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:45:55 -!- Evablue has quit [Quit: Evablue] 08:46:02 -!- weezeface has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:47:14 -!- weezeface has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:48:42 -!- weezeface has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:49:38 -!- weezefac_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:50:48 -!- weezeface has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:52:06 -!- weezeface has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:52:09 -!- Moonsilence has quit [] 08:52:28 -!- SomeStupidGuy has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 08:54:37 -!- weezefac_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:56:09 -!- weezeface has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:56:53 -!- weezeface has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:58:18 -!- weezeface has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:59:23 -!- weezeface has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:59:33 Lasty: what would you like to graph? 09:00:52 !tell elliptic http://pastebin.com/qmCBTvhi 09:00:53 Lasty: OK, I'll let elliptic know. 09:01:00 !tell |amethyst http://pastebin.com/qmCBTvhi 09:01:00 Lasty: OK, I'll let |amethyst know. 09:01:06 !tell gammafunk http://pastebin.com/qmCBTvhi 09:01:06 Lasty: OK, I'll let gammafunk know. 09:01:13 -!- weezefac_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:01:15 !tell pleasingfungus http://pastebin.com/qmCBTvhi 09:01:15 Lasty: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 09:01:26 bh: I think I got it sorted out 09:01:45 check out that link -- it's graphing and alternate spellcasting penalty scheme 09:01:51 *an 09:02:23 -!- weezefac_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:03:01 -!- Ipsum_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 09:03:28 -!- weezeface has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:04:43 -!- weezeface has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:07:32 -!- weezefac_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:08:10 -!- FlowRiser has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:08:35 -!- weezeface has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:09:44 -!- weezeface has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:10:49 -!- weezeface has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:11:19 <|amethyst> hm 09:11:19 |amethyst: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 09:12:30 -!- weezeface has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:13:09 -!- weezefac_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:13:27 <|amethyst> Lasty: hm... is chain really worse than plate at low skill? 09:14:21 -!- weezeface has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:14:25 <|amethyst> Lasty: I think the new chain formula has an s+3 that should be s+6 ? 09:15:47 oops 09:15:55 I must have missed that 09:16:15 -!- weezefac_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:16:56 <|amethyst> MarvinPA: someone on tavern tech support points out that it's a bit harder to close doors in tiles since the ctrl-direction changes 09:17:17 -!- Brannock has joined ##crawl-dev 09:17:24 -!- weezefac_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:17:34 <|amethyst> MarvinPA: I guess I should be mentioning this to wheals, not you 09:18:07 <|amethyst> !tell wheals someone in tavern tech support points out that it's harder to close doors in tiles now, since you can't just ctrl-click 09:18:07 |amethyst: OK, I'll let wheals know. 09:18:07 -!- Basil has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 09:18:37 -!- weezeface has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:19:44 -!- weezeface has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:21:04 -!- weezeface has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:22:11 -!- weezeface has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:22:57 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 09:23:20 -!- weezeface has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:24:24 -!- weezeface has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:27:08 -!- weezeface has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:33:29 -!- weezefac_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:33:59 -!- weezeface has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:36:32 -!- john____ has quit [Client Quit] 09:48:15 -!- radinms has quit [] 09:49:42 -!- booly-yam-2304 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:49:43 -!- booly-yam-8719 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:50:23 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:02:19 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 10:02:57 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 10:03:04 -!- nicolae- has joined ##crawl-dev 10:08:50 -!- pikaro has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 10:09:08 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 10:12:25 -!- gammafunk has quit [Quit: leaving] 10:18:18 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 10:24:35 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 10:32:59 well. well. well. if it isn't PleasingFungus. 10:33:03 is it 10:33:10 -!- Kintak has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:33:11 ...i thought it was 10:33:51 -!- debo has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 10:35:02 we may never know. 10:37:30 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 10:37:43 such is life. 10:42:53 !blame PleasingFungus 10:42:53 Grunt: You have 2 messages. Use !messages to read them. 10:42:53 I pronounce PleasingFungus... Guilty! 10:42:59 ??? 10:43:02 you ruined my vault :( 10:43:05 o 10:43:06 ya 10:43:09 sry :( 10:43:20 rip 10:43:26 !tell gammafunk I'm happy to see the custom branch go (I'm not even sure it was needed on servers other than CDO); also I think tornado.process requires at least 3.0 (which I think is why I had checkoutput.py) 10:43:26 edlothiol: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 10:43:26 edlothiol: OK, I'll let gammafunk know. 10:44:54 * nicolae- puts his hand on Grunt's shoulder supportively. 10:44:54 * Sequell also puts his hand on Grunt's shoulder supportively. 10:45:10 I know that feeling, Gru-- what the hell, Sequell 10:45:21 one hand per shoulder 10:45:25 carefully counterbalanced 10:45:33 <|amethyst> note the "his" 10:45:48 <|amethyst> Sequell is putting *nicolae's* other hand on Grunt's shoulder 10:46:00 <|amethyst> make them dance, Sequell, make them dance 10:46:20 !!!!! 10:46:23 the puppetmaster strikes..... 10:46:47 it's never the one you suspect 10:46:53 -!- elliptic has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 10:48:25 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.16-a0-3675-gd2d306a: Optimize the new fakelang slightly 10(4 minutes ago, 1 file, 7+ 7-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=d2d306a4b893 10:48:28 dang.............. 10:48:45 PleasingFungus: imo you should 10:48:48 !glasses 10:48:48 ( •_•) ( •_•)>⌐■-■ (⌐■_■) 10:48:51 butt out 10:48:58 I was waiting for that one. 10:49:34 btw figure out how to chain fakelangs plzkthx 10:50:37 wait, is this why you were asking about isalpha/isupper/etc last night 10:51:12 nicolae-: (since you're here) dungeon generation doesn't depend on the player, there's no good reason to break that rule for some entry vault 10:51:24 Grunt: ya I was thinking about that the entire time 10:51:26 nicolae-: admittedly 10:51:57 -!- endou______ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 10:52:10 maybe I should accompany bearkin with a new fake language 10:52:18 it fills the game with unbearable puns 10:52:22 Grunt: also it'd be neat to allow configurable percentages; currently it's a fixed 20% but being able to specify language = butt_20 would be neat 10:52:22 butt:20 10:52:30 idk 10:52:54 troves can get away with breaking it since they wouldn't work otherwise, but breaking it for decorative vaults seems like a pretty terrible precedent to set 10:53:10 would bearkin puns have a joke about the right to bear arms, and also, since the language is notionally supposed to be australian english, and australia doesn't have a second amendment, would it even work 10:53:42 in my opinion non-bears don't have any rights to bear arms 10:54:19 MarvinPA: well, in this case the decorative vault wouldn't work otherwise either 10:54:49 with no gameplay function, yes 10:55:32 hrm, i wonder if i could just use vault syntax to rename a human corpse to "mummy corpse" and solve the problem that way 10:55:42 what's a mummy corpse??? 10:55:48 corpse corpse 10:55:50 sleeping mummy 10:55:56 pining for the tombs 10:57:10 or maybe just have a human corpse with no name in the case of corpseless species 10:57:18 hm. i'll fix it and resubmit. 10:58:11 <|amethyst> troll is also an issue, since they would get a chance of a free troll hide 10:58:37 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.16-a0-3676-g8ac0caf: Improve? adverb support for the new fakelang 10(5 minutes ago, 1 file, 9+ 3-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=8ac0caf5b5bf 10:58:48 also true, i can change the walls to stone glass 10:59:01 I think I'm done with this for now 11:00:27 i thought about doing that but figured that the corpse would have decayed by the time anybody got back to it with digging, but i forgot formicids and lucky early drops 11:01:24 if ((!(you.experience_level % 4) && one_chance_in(3) && (player_mutation_level(MUT_CLAWS) == 1))) 11:01:27 halp 11:01:28 how do I make this work 11:01:38 what are you trying to do 11:01:58 make it work 11:02:02 !banish nicolae- 11:02:03 PleasingFungus casts a spell. nicolae- is cast into beam.cc! 11:02:10 er, actually I think I figured out 11:02:47 of course I've done so three times now 11:02:54 [09:01] PleasingFungus what are you trying to do 11:02:57 but it's broken slightly less each time! 11:03:16 well basically it should give claws 1/3 of the time every 4 levels and something else 2/3 of the time 11:03:25 but I just realized the other two checks don't care about your level 11:04:14 sound like you want something like "if (you.experience_level % 4 == 0) { if (one_chance_in(3) && player_mutation_level(MUT_CLAWS) == 1) { give claws } else { give other stuff } } 11:04:17 " 11:04:46 er. assuming claws start at 1 and you don't want them to go past 2...? 11:04:49 yes :u 11:04:51 yes 11:04:57 aight 11:08:23 -!- booly-yam-3171 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:14:23 casual (L27 TrWr) ASSERT(in_bounds(mg.pos)) in 'mon-place.cc' at line 4022 failed. (Tomb:1) 11:16:24 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 11:18:30 -!- moocowpong1 has joined ##crawl-dev 11:18:40 -!- Roderic has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:21:16 <|amethyst> mummy dies to something that results in you getting a miscast, but you are stepped from time 11:22:01 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.16-a0-3676-g8ac0caf (34) 11:22:11 <|amethyst> the mgen_data gets pos = the player's position, which is (0, 0) 11:22:29 <|amethyst> not sure what it should do though 11:23:04 <|amethyst> if you use the player's unstepped position, the monster could very well end up being teleported away 11:24:13 <|amethyst> oh... and the old position isn't even available, since that's a local variable in cheibriados_time_step 11:24:24 -!- Evablue has quit [Quit: Evablue] 11:25:13 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 11:25:13 The build has errored. (master - d2d306a #1560 : Nicholas Feinberg): http://travis-ci.org/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/builds/47359437 11:25:13 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 11:25:20 <|amethyst> I'm sure plenty of other necro miscasts would have problems with an out-of-bounds target, though 11:25:42 <|amethyst> batching them until time step ends sounds like it could be very dangerous to the player 11:27:42 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 11:28:15 -!- halberd has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:30:23 -!- cribozai has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:32:38 -!- falu has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.1] 11:33:45 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 11:34:10 |amethyst: wouldn't it make more sense to just not get the mummy curse? you aren't there at the time it happens... 11:34:10 elliptic: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 11:34:36 juking mummy curses with an expensive god ability sounds probably morally acceptable 11:34:36 <|amethyst> elliptic: that would probably make sense 11:43:15 !tell Lasty it might also be interesting to compare with how things were before the most recent armour changes -- the old formula was 25*(old AEVP) - 20, where old AEVP was (base EVP)*(45-armour skill)/45 and base EVP was 1/2/3/4/6 for the armours in question (assuming enough strength) 11:43:16 elliptic: OK, I'll let lasty know. 11:43:38 how long ago was that change? 11:44:02 do player tiles need very specific dimensions or something 11:44:12 this thing looks... wrong 11:45:47 %git a04a6eb 11:45:47 07galehar02 * 0.13-a0-453-ga04a6eb: New formula for the effect of strength on AEVP. 10(1 year, 9 months ago, 5 files, 40+ 56-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=a04a6eba42c9 11:45:53 player tiles are 32x32 or bust 11:46:04 and that's 32x32 including weapon/shield/boots/hat 11:46:07 well I know that but 11:46:28 http://i.imgur.com/YbesTZ2.png 11:46:40 for some reason this thing apparently has two pairs of arms 11:46:41 PleasingFungus: that change is part of why the 0.8 thing isn't great 11:46:41 or something 11:47:15 -!- Alarkh has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 11:47:16 ah, that's more recent than I'd realized 11:47:24 it's a pterobeartyl 11:47:58 http://i.imgur.com/cU6wHQy.png 11:48:03 it gets even weirder with equipment 11:48:35 oh yeah 11:48:54 all the equipment is assuming that the character doll looks like a human 11:49:02 well it's just a rotated, glued and pasted black bear 11:49:15 tiles aren't my expertise so it's mostly a placeholder 11:49:22 so if you transcend those boundaries you're in for some bad shit 11:49:40 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 11:50:30 i.e. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/63152810/n/crawl/chars/dg.png gotta stay within those edges 11:51:01 meh 11:59:53 03|amethyst02 07* 0.16-a0-3677-g33c989d: Don't crash when getting a mummy curse while stepped from time. 10(22 minutes ago, 1 file, 4+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=33c989db32ab 11:59:53 03|amethyst02 07* 0.16-a0-3678-g5ecd834: Avoid a warning and simplify. 10(14 minutes ago, 1 file, 6+ 6-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=5ecd834d7928 11:59:53 03|amethyst02 07* 0.16-a0-3679-g979e94e: Simplify _get_randart_properties little more. 10(8 minutes ago, 1 file, 3+ 4-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=979e94e4eba1 11:59:53 03|amethyst02 07* 0.16-a0-3680-g2572214: Improve an assertion message. 10(6 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=2572214c3040 11:59:53 03|amethyst02 07* 0.16-a0-3681-g3a1f346: Type-safe butts. 10(33 seconds ago, 1 file, 4+ 4-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=3a1f346752a9 12:00:55 good commits 12:01:55 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 12:01:55 The build has errored. (master - 8ac0caf #1561 : Nicholas Feinberg): http://travis-ci.org/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/builds/47360202 12:01:55 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 12:07:45 -!- Pacra has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 12:08:21 -!- Erashi has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:11:03 !seen grunt 12:11:04 I last saw Grunt at Sat Jan 17 16:49:34 2015 UTC (1h 21m 29s ago) saying 'btw figure out how to chain fakelangs plzkthx' on ##crawl-dev. 12:11:10 -!- nicholas982 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:11:27 !tell grunt "ant" is already updated and the machine still can't compile 12:11:27 rockygargoyle: OK, I'll let grunt know. 12:15:16 i've uploaded a new version of memento_mori with a little more variety and compatability with corpseless species. it feels weird to leave human remains for gargoyles but i'm not sure what else to put. maybe, like, a pile of rocks. 12:16:38 -!- pikaro has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:19:21 -!- Pacra has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 12:19:51 03|amethyst02 07* 0.16-a0-3682-g19b7dca: Fix an off-by-one static assert. 10(33 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=19b7dcad623e 12:22:53 -!- Alarkh_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:24:36 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 12:25:57 -!- Aryth has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 12:32:54 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 12:35:40 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 12:39:22 -!- nicolae- has left ##crawl-dev 12:41:15 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 12:41:15 The build has errored. (master - 3a1f346 #1562 : Neil Moore): http://travis-ci.org/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/builds/47364989 12:41:15 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 12:41:30 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:46:13 -!- moocowpong1 has quit [Quit: moocowpong1] 12:47:11 -!- rockygargoyle has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:54:08 -!- dtsund has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:55:30 03elliptic02 07* 0.16-a0-3683-gc8374a9: More clua: it.ego(). 10(8 minutes ago, 1 file, 32+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=c8374a9af6f3 13:03:54 -!- Bloax has quit [Quit: Error: Bloax not found] 13:04:13 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 13:07:02 !tell rockygargoyle maybe the ant package isn't what I think it is 13:07:03 Grunt: OK, I'll let rockygargoyle know. 13:07:35 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:08:16 !tell rockygargoyle except it is... take some screenshots and show me when zi get home 13:08:16 Grunt: OK, I'll let rockygargoyle know. 13:12:00 -!- CKyle_ has joined ##crawl-dev 13:14:48 -!- Tattersail has quit [Read error: No route to host] 13:14:50 -!- CKyle has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:18:41 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 13:18:41 The build has errored. (master - 19b7dca #1563 : Neil Moore): http://travis-ci.org/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/builds/47366311 13:18:41 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 13:19:51 -!- halberd has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:20:58 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 13:25:50 -!- moocowpong1 has joined ##crawl-dev 13:27:06 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 13:31:51 -!- Ququman has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:32:34 !tell gammafunk I have some BoB ideas; iirc you had your own thoughts so I'd like to bounce these off you 13:32:35 PleasingFungus: OK, I'll let gammafunk know. 13:38:31 -!- MgDark has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 13:40:58 -!- MgDark_ is now known as MgDark 13:42:08 -!- BanquosGhost has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 13:42:12 -!- MakMorn has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:45:15 -!- marsbars has quit [Client Quit] 13:46:47 -!- Mandevil has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:49:51 -!- MakMorn has joined ##crawl-dev 13:56:35 -!- edlothiol has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:56:40 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 13:56:40 The build passed. (master - c8374a9 #1564 : elliptic): http://travis-ci.org/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/builds/47368696 13:56:40 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 13:57:11 -!- Siegurt has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 14:01:29 -!- BanquosGhost has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 14:01:30 -!- MakMorn has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:03:01 -!- Menche has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:03:41 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 14:05:12 elliptic, |amethyst, PleasingFungus: http://pastebin.com/NtvH4gme. This fixes the chainmail bug and adds a graph of the armours pre-ER. Back then splint mail was basically what chain mail is now, so the magenta line represents that. 14:05:13 Lasty: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 14:05:35 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 14:07:33 I'm gonna abstain from this. 14:08:29 Instead of being helpful, I'm going to ask if people want to playtest shoals-lite. 14:08:53 and instead of being helpful, I'm gonna run off and play Caverna w/ my wife. 14:08:54 !lg cbro start>=2015 s=expblr 14:08:54 No games for cbro (start>=2015). 14:09:01 :) 14:09:09 !lg cbro s=expblr 14:09:10 No games for cbro. 14:09:14 oops 14:09:19 !lg * cbro start>=2015 s=expblr 14:09:20 Unknown field: expblr 14:09:22 feh 14:09:50 !lg * cbro start>=2015 s=explbr 14:09:50 johnstein: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 14:09:50 2038 games for * (cbro start>=2015): 1426x, 249x evoker-god, 167x faithful, 97x salamander, 75x no backtracking god, 15x plutonians, 9x shoals-lite 14:10:09 !lg * cbro start>=2015 explbr=shoals-lite s=name 14:10:09 9 games for * (cbro start>=2015 explbr=shoals-lite): 3x cbrotest, 2x LogicNinja, Sientara, rockinsaki, zercules, superterranean 14:10:14 neat 14:10:23 so 6 real games 14:10:27 !lm * cbro start>=2015 explbr=shoals-lite s=name 14:10:27 38 milestones for * (cbro start>=2015 explbr=shoals-lite): 16x superterranean, 6x Sientara, 4x cbrotest, 3x rockinsaki, 3x MarvinPA, 2x LogicNinja, zercules, Lightli, aardvark, johnstein 14:10:40 you won't get much testing feedback from that jerk cbrotest 14:10:40 !lm * cbro start>=2015 explbr=shoals-lite s=gid name!=cbrotest 14:10:41 34 milestones for * (cbro start>=2015 explbr=shoals-lite name!=cbrotest): 16x superterranean:cbro:20150013021816S, 6x Sientara:cbro:20150013224411S, 3x rockinsaki:cbro:20150013080430S, Lightli:cbro:20150012233225S, aardvark:cbro:20150012160107S, LogicNinja:cbro:20150012093906S, johnstein:cbro:20150012090616S, MarvinPA:cbro:20150012233104S, LogicNinja:cbro:20150012091237S, zercules:cbro:20150015031... 14:10:49 ??shoals-lite 14:10:49 shoals-lite[1/2]: Tides only go between shallow water & land (never deep water); fifteen times faster than classic crawl. Modeled off what word of mouth claims Crawl Lite does with Shoals. Playable on cbro! 14:10:54 !lm * cbro start>=2015 explbr=shoals-lite x=count(gid) name!=cbrotest 14:10:54 34 milestones for * (cbro start>=2015 explbr=shoals-lite name!=cbrotest): count(game_key)=12 14:11:06 12 games, half of which perished tragically 14:11:12 or won, I guess 14:11:39 !learn e shoals-lite[1] s/cbro!/cbro (with wizmode!) 14:11:39 shoals-lite[1/2]: Tides only go between shallow water & land (never deep water); fifteen times faster than classic crawl. Modeled off what word of mouth claims Crawl Lite does with Shoals. Playable on cbro (with wizmode!) 14:20:15 <|amethyst> "I'll admit, I'm pretty biased for DCSS. The game is just a lot easier to play/learn because of mouse controls, and generally being simple in terms of controls. A big problem with a lot of Rougelikes for me is having to learn a lot of commands, and not being able to use a mouse or anything." 14:20:28 <|amethyst> would be nice to have that for webtiles 14:20:38 ya 14:21:25 !tell Lasty thanks for the new graph - after looking at things a bit, I can say that it looks fairly reasonable for chars without shields :) (and of course testing will help figure out if more tweaks are necessary) I do still think that doing something about bucklers might be a good idea though, to make robe + buckler + low skill less terrible for spellcasters 14:21:25 Maximum message length is 300 characters. Eschew verbosity, Gladys! 14:21:53 !tell Lasty thanks for the new graph - after looking at things a bit, I can say that it looks fairly reasonable for chars without shields :) (and of course testing will help figure out if more tweaks are necessary) 14:21:53 elliptic: OK, I'll let lasty know. 14:23:12 !tell Lasty I do still think that doing something about bucklers might be a good idea though, to make robe + buckler + low skill less terrible for spellcasters - I mean just making buckler base penalties a bit smaller in general or something like that 14:23:12 elliptic: OK, I'll let lasty know. 14:24:28 -!- PolkaDot has left ##crawl-dev 14:28:13 |amethyst: and after implementing mousing for webtiles, the next obvious step is native touch support :) 14:32:48 getdunked (L2 MfIE) (D:3) 14:33:21 -!- cribozai has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 14:34:34 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [Firefox 34.0.5/20141126041045]] 14:37:38 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Client Quit] 14:38:12 -!- elliptic has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:41:39 -!- markgo has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:42:07 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 14:48:42 -!- zercules has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:53:30 -!- scummos^ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 14:57:42 -!- Menche has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:05:51 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 15:06:30 -!- __miek has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 15:09:21 -!- Patashu_ has joined ##crawl-dev 15:09:21 -!- Patashu has quit [Disconnected by services] 15:13:19 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 15:14:03 -!- evilmike has joined ##crawl-dev 15:14:58 i saw this on the cdo blog: "Applying Excruciating Wounds and Warp Weapon in succession (in either order) no longer permanently changes weapons’ brands." 15:15:20 how long was that bug in the game for? 15:17:57 <|amethyst> not that long, let me see 15:18:45 -!- CKyle_ has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 15:19:27 <|amethyst> %git 4128f944 15:19:27 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.16-a0-1125-g4128f94: Update AC/EV display on temp rebrands (8991) 10(3 months ago, 1 file, 19+ 5-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=4128f944ef10 15:19:42 <|amethyst> three months 15:19:54 <|amethyst> I guess that is longish, but it didn't make it into a release 15:20:03 -!- MgDark has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [Firefox 35.0/20150108202552]] 15:23:35 -!- MakMorn has joined ##crawl-dev 15:24:36 -!- bullock has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:26:25 03|amethyst02 07* 0.16-a0-3684-g951c262: Fix a typo. 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=951c26267cf8 15:37:30 -!- theTower has joined ##crawl-dev 15:48:37 would a "hand weapon" for UC users ever be considered so it would offer another curse slot for ash? like spiked knuckles or something? 15:50:42 -!- mamgar has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:51:58 elliptic: is lowering the shield penalty multiplier to 19 also good enough, or would you prefer to leave it at 25 and then change the base penalty for bucklers from 1 to some fraction of 1? 15:51:58 Lasty: You have 3 messages. Use !messages to read them. 15:52:51 minmay: I use shields on character w/ spells reasonably often. I pretty much never use large shields under any circumstnces 15:54:42 -!- scummos^ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:55:51 -!- tcsc has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 15:58:32 inspector071: seems better to just let people curse/inscribe/drop their hands 15:59:13 minmay: bind them with mummy wrappings 16:00:37 but it would be cool if ash could boost UC for those lovely monks 16:00:41 especially MuMo 16:01:03 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 16:01:06 to be fair, boosting UC is much better than boosting most weapon skills 16:01:22 yep 16:01:41 by which I mean to say, it's probably a non-trivial balance change 16:02:09 well, oka can do it. and ash will boost everything else, so i dont think it would be that crazy 16:02:44 at any rate, with some of the inventive new unrands being made, like the mana regen helmet, i thought some knuckles might be neat 16:02:51 -!- Acidburn6 has quit [] 16:04:13 why not juse make it a ring bonus 16:04:38 -!- Patashu_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 16:04:43 which is more punishing than locking you into the one weapon that is likely your best weapon 16:06:21 well for UC users under ash, rods are at least easy to use 16:06:33 with knuckes you wouldnt be able to use them very well, like any other weapon 16:07:26 -!- BanquosGhost has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 16:07:26 -!- MakMorn has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:07:45 the thing is just that unarmed is already the best reliable weapon 16:08:35 which is why there are no unarmed-weapons 16:09:20 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 16:10:12 -!- MakMorn has joined ##crawl-dev 16:10:34 -!- BanquosGhost has quit [Client Quit] 16:10:49 i just love monks so i guess im just trying to find a way to make them even better 16:10:58 because i want to win a MuMo, and theyre hard 16:11:34 !lg . mumo / won 16:11:34 1/1 game for kvaak (mumo): N=1/1 (100.00%) 16:11:37 step 1: don't punch things 16:11:47 <|amethyst> I don't think mumo is hard because of "monk" :P 16:12:11 Prompted which door to close while only one door was open 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9411 by EugeneJudo 16:12:32 -!- MakMorn has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:13:13 well, Mo is one of the weakest backgrounds there is 16:13:49 the only ones that are even *maybe* weaker are wn and ck 16:13:57 Starting with no useful equipment is pretty rough 16:14:36 -!- Monkaria has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:15:18 -!- MakMorn has joined ##crawl-dev 16:15:36 mmm didn't take long for "the interface now behaves consistently" to be reported as a bug 16:15:41 <|amethyst> MarvinPA: :) 16:15:43 -!- johnf has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:16:05 <|amethyst> MarvinPA: could make it an option, but you probably don't like that idea 16:16:05 -!- MakMorn has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:17:21 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 16:17:23 not especially, but maybe i can find some other options to remove to make up for it 16:18:37 since there are a lot of people who like their interfaces to try too hard to be clever it seems 16:18:56 -!- MakMorn has joined ##crawl-dev 16:19:25 closing the only door in range when prompted to close a door doesn't require a particularly high degree of intelligence imo 16:19:48 <|amethyst> FR: autofight-with-move stands still when you press and the nearest monster is 2 squares away (3 with reach) and doesn't have a ranged attack 16:20:50 !remove MarvinPA 16:21:04 <|amethyst> #D# 16:21:06 <|amethyst> #-# 16:21:08 <|amethyst> #@# 16:21:09 <|amethyst> #-# 16:21:13 -!- __miek has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:21:13 !remove Grunt 16:21:15 <|amethyst> kvaak: that case is the problem 16:21:23 |amethyst: XTAHUA ROARS! 16:21:34 <|amethyst> kvaak: you mean to close the north door and run away, but you forgot about the s door so you end up closing that instead 16:21:54 -!- siepu has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:22:00 TIL: buttonmashing kills you 16:22:12 kvaak: what 16:22:16 kvaak: really!? 16:22:21 yes 16:22:30 see my latest La splat, it's brilliant 16:22:36 inconceivable. 16:22:51 <|amethyst> yeah, we could also enable walking into lava when unconfused, but we don't 16:23:16 FR: make that part of the prompt implemwntable 16:23:22 <_< 16:24:00 Bonus points for "You jump into the lava!" 16:24:17 jumping is gone, long live jumping 16:24:21 someone genuinely requested that on tavern recently 16:24:49 you swan-dive into the lava... 16:25:19 <|amethyst> make players catch fire if they stand next to lava for too long 16:25:25 <|amethyst> s/players/creatures/ 16:25:34 <|amethyst> then add sheep to geh 16:27:40 -!- weezeface has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:29:29 -!- moocowpong1 has quit [Quit: moocowpong1] 16:30:28 -!- nicholas982_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:31:13 want to hear my Good Idea? an artifact crossbow that shoots orbs of destruction instead of regular bolts, called the "Orbalest". the orbs would use the weapon's damage, so it wouldnt be as good as the real iood spell 16:31:13 -!- MakMorn has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:32:03 -!- ___miek has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:32:38 <|amethyst> evilmike++ 16:32:40