00:00:12 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 00:00:23 Grunt: fighting mnoleg with whiskey, interesting strategy 00:00:28 maybe he's already drunk though 00:00:40 happily smashed 00:02:29 !lg * ikiller=mnoleg 00:02:30 51. Sabathiel the Conqueror (L27 MiBe of The Shining One), mangled by Mnoleg in Pandemonium (evilmike_mnoleg_eyes) on 2014-12-01 01:32:07, with 1364181 points after 140056 turns and 11:18:04. 00:02:39 !lg * ikiller=lom_lobon 00:02:39 33. sCylight the Hoplite (L27 FoFi of The Shining One), killed by an exploding ball lightning (created by Lom Lobon) in Pandemonium (lom_lobon) on 2014-11-30 01:47:01, with 874907 points after 93348 turns and 7:10:19. 00:02:59 !lm . mibe 00:03:00 31. [2014-12-13 01:49:04] gammafunk the Cleaver (L7 MiBe of Trog) entered the Ecumenical Temple on turn 1300. (D:5) 00:03:05 need to get going with that one 00:03:30 ya 00:03:57 I might do a Sa or something though 00:03:59 hrm 00:04:05 play it SaFE imo 00:04:06 :) 00:04:30 !lg . won s=cls 00:04:30 20 games for gammafunk (won): 3x Death Knight, 2x Ice Elementalist, Necromancer, Conjurer, Earth Elementalist, Monk, Wanderer, Warper, Transmuter, Artificer, Air Elementalist, Chaos Knight, Fighter, Enchanter, Gladiator, Hunter, Healer 00:04:38 !? 00:04:47 !greaterplayer gammafunk 00:04:53 Unwon backgrounds for gammafunk: Abyssal Knight, Arcane Marksman, Assassin, Berserker, Fire Elementalist, Skald, Summoner, Venom Mage, Wizard 00:04:55 w h a t 00:05:05 oh, you're surprised about Su? 00:05:16 I'm surprised at a few of those 00:05:40 well consider how few people have like 44k 15 speed runs grunt! 00:06:06 v0v 00:06:06 !lg * urune=15 turns<49000 won s=name 00:06:06 118 games for * (urune=15 turns<49000 won): 17x 4thArraOfDagon, 15x PurpleRed, 7x Turgon, 7x Yermak, 6x Bart, 5x hanon12, 5x Sapher, 5x zugundertherug, 5x ELD, 5x keymashgrqeeg, 4x redmage, 3x jeanjacques, 3x tlatlagkaus, 3x timbw, 3x buffalo66, 3x hyperbolic, 3x DrKe, 2x Bruce, 2x shotax, 2x Thrall, rob, Roarke, Tabstorm, Fusentrap, elliptic, crawlian, cmyk, 78291, magicpoints, Roshnak, Poncheis,... 00:06:18 hrm 00:06:27 can I get a number of names? 00:06:39 !lg * urune=15 turns<49000 won x=cdist(name) 00:06:40 118 games for * (urune=15 turns<49000 won): cdist(name)=33 00:06:44 ah ok 00:07:02 Why does Sif's Forget Spell have non-zero failure? 00:07:14 ??Spellpower 00:07:15 Spellpower ~ spell power[1/5]: (Spellcasting/2 + 2*avg school skill) * INT/10 * (1.5 ^ enhancer count). Now halve the part over 50, halve the part over 100, halve the part over 150, and plain cap at 200. Negative enhancers use 0.5, not 0.66. 00:07:30 More importantly 00:07:33 Why does it cost 5mp 00:07:36 forget a spell to get spell levels to learn XXX in battle 00:07:40 to forget a spell 00:07:42 !!!!! 00:08:26 seriously, I have learned monstrous menag or shadow creatures (forget which) while in a fight that I was losing 00:08:35 of course, I didn't use the forget spell ability 00:08:47 <|amethyst> that probably dates back to when you got back the spell's MP for amnesia 00:08:51 <|amethyst> s/for/from/ 00:09:28 <|amethyst> %git c81b0c84 00:09:28 07MarvinPA02 * 0.13-a0-2300-gc81b0c8: Don't restore MP when forgetting spells via amnesia scroll/ability 10(1 year, 5 months ago, 1 file, 0+ 8-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=c81b0c84f0b7 00:11:23 wait, that was a thing? 00:11:25 haha 00:13:20 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.16-a0-3227-gebd230d (34) 00:16:48 -!- Akitten_Homura has quit [Quit: Connection reset by pier.] 00:18:54 random question 00:19:00 how come regular mummy death curses are still a thing 00:19:16 not the guardian/greater mummy kind 00:19:23 I mean the "curse something in your inventory 00:19:26 *" kind 00:20:48 johnstein: what was that server admin channel again? 00:21:13 -!- odiv has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 00:21:33 ##crawl-admin 00:21:57 we tried to obfuscate it as best as we could 00:25:52 ##crawl-adm1n 00:29:55 -!- weezeface has quit [Client Quit] 00:30:37 -!- demiskeleton has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:34:59 -!- zxc232 has joined ##crawl-dev 00:36:16 Two interface tweaks (monster list, wizmode indicator) 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9351 by chris 00:36:36 -!- Adder has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:37:10 Damara (L4 NaVM) ERROR in 'beam.cc' at line 389: ASSERT failed: z_type of 74 out of range 0 (0) .. NUM_ZAPS (74) (D:2) 00:37:26 beam.is_zap = false? 00:37:29 !crashlog Damara 00:37:30 1. Damara, XL4 NaVM, T:1926 (milestone): http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/Damara/crash-Damara-20141221-063702.txt 00:38:06 lotta zaps from that beem 00:39:18 Damara (L4 NaVM) ERROR in 'beam.cc' at line 389: ASSERT failed: z_type of 74 out of range 0 (0) .. NUM_ZAPS (74) (D:2) 00:40:40 wwwhhheeeaaalllsss? 00:40:45 -!- eliana has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:41:21 Make troves asking for the horn of Geryon take it from players 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9352 by chris 00:41:57 bigpimpin (L6 MfIE) ERROR in 'beam.cc' at line 389: ASSERT failed: z_type of 74 out of range 0 (0) .. NUM_ZAPS (74) (D:4) 00:42:15 bigpimpin (L6 MfIE) ERROR in 'beam.cc' at line 389: ASSERT failed: z_type of 74 out of range 0 (0) .. NUM_ZAPS (74) (D:4) 00:42:20 Damara (L4 NaVM) ERROR in 'beam.cc' at line 389: ASSERT failed: z_type of 74 out of range 0 (0) .. NUM_ZAPS (74) (D:1) 00:42:34 bigpimpin (L6 MfIE) ERROR in 'beam.cc' at line 389: ASSERT failed: z_type of 74 out of range 0 (0) .. NUM_ZAPS (74) (D:4) 00:43:56 Damara (L4 NaVM) ERROR in 'beam.cc' at line 389: ASSERT failed: z_type of 74 out of range 0 (0) .. NUM_ZAPS (74) (D:1) 00:46:44 -!- clouded_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 00:46:54 PlateCaptain (L21 HOGl) ERROR in 'beam.cc' at line 389: ASSERT failed: z_type of 74 out of range 0 (0) .. NUM_ZAPS (74) (Crypt:3) 00:48:32 PlateCaptain (L21 HOGl) ERROR in 'beam.cc' at line 389: ASSERT failed: z_type of 74 out of range 0 (0) .. NUM_ZAPS (74) (Crypt:3) 00:48:38 Damara (L3 TrEE) ERROR in 'beam.cc' at line 389: ASSERT failed: z_type of 74 out of range 0 (0) .. NUM_ZAPS (74) (D:2) 00:49:57 -!- Damara has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:54:39 PlateCaptain (L21 HOGl) ERROR in 'beam.cc' at line 389: ASSERT failed: z_type of 74 out of range 0 (0) .. NUM_ZAPS (74) (Crypt:3) 00:58:47 -!- markgo has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 01:00:29 Grorgnorb (L1 GrIE) ERROR in 'beam.cc' at line 389: ASSERT failed: z_type of 74 out of range 0 (0) .. NUM_ZAPS (74) (D:1) 01:01:00 Grorgnorb (L1 GrIE) ERROR in 'beam.cc' at line 389: ASSERT failed: z_type of 74 out of range 0 (0) .. NUM_ZAPS (74) (D:1) 01:01:13 -!- SomeStupidGirl has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 01:03:53 Grorgnorb (L1 GrEE) ERROR in 'beam.cc' at line 389: ASSERT failed: z_type of 74 out of range 0 (0) .. NUM_ZAPS (74) (D:1) 01:06:01 this is a wheals bug 01:06:14 %git bd6617f 01:06:14 07wheals02 * 0.16-a0-3225-gbd6617f: Fix the numbers for Agony, etc. resist chance. 10(4 hours ago, 6 files, 33+ 14-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=bd6617f23656 01:06:46 the problem is the call to zap_ench_power in your_spells 01:06:53 which does not check if the spell is a zap 01:07:36 alternatively zap_ench_power could check if z_type == NUM_ZAPS and return pow immediately if so 01:08:15 need to sleep though :( 01:12:06 PlateCaptain (L22 HOGl) ERROR in 'beam.cc' at line 389: ASSERT failed: z_type of 74 out of range 0 (0) .. NUM_ZAPS (74) (Vaults:5) 01:12:32 PlateCaptain (L22 HOGl) ERROR in 'beam.cc' at line 389: ASSERT failed: z_type of 74 out of range 0 (0) .. NUM_ZAPS (74) (Vaults:5) 01:16:08 PlateCaptain (L22 HOGl) ERROR in 'beam.cc' at line 389: ASSERT failed: z_type of 74 out of range 0 (0) .. NUM_ZAPS (74) (Vaults:5) 01:17:17 PlateCaptain (L22 HOGl) ERROR in 'beam.cc' at line 389: ASSERT failed: z_type of 74 out of range 0 (0) .. NUM_ZAPS (74) (Vaults:5) 01:18:43 -!- AreBrandon has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 01:20:00 PlateCaptain (L22 HOGl) ERROR in 'beam.cc' at line 389: ASSERT failed: z_type of 74 out of range 0 (0) .. NUM_ZAPS (74) (Vaults:5) 01:20:20 LogicNinja (L4 DEFE) ERROR in 'beam.cc' at line 389: ASSERT failed: z_type of 74 out of range 0 (0) .. NUM_ZAPS (74) (D:3) 01:20:49 PlateCaptain (L22 HOGl) ERROR in 'beam.cc' at line 389: ASSERT failed: z_type of 74 out of range 0 (0) .. NUM_ZAPS (74) (Vaults:5) 01:21:53 LogicNinja (L4 DEFE) ERROR in 'beam.cc' at line 389: ASSERT failed: z_type of 74 out of range 0 (0) .. NUM_ZAPS (74) (D:3) 01:22:26 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 01:22:36 LogicNinja (L4 DEFE) ERROR in 'beam.cc' at line 389: ASSERT failed: z_type of 74 out of range 0 (0) .. NUM_ZAPS (74) (D:3) 01:22:59 LogicNinja (L4 DEFE) ERROR in 'beam.cc' at line 389: ASSERT failed: z_type of 74 out of range 0 (0) .. NUM_ZAPS (74) (D:3) 01:23:34 -!- theTower has quit [Quit: leaving] 01:23:37 LogicNinja (L4 DEFE) ERROR in 'beam.cc' at line 389: ASSERT failed: z_type of 74 out of range 0 (0) .. NUM_ZAPS (74) (D:3) 01:24:16 LogicNinja (L4 DEFE) ERROR in 'beam.cc' at line 389: ASSERT failed: z_type of 74 out of range 0 (0) .. NUM_ZAPS (74) (D:3) 01:26:15 LogicNinja (L6 DEFE) ERROR in 'beam.cc' at line 389: ASSERT failed: z_type of 74 out of range 0 (0) .. NUM_ZAPS (74) (D:3) 01:28:15 can something be done about ozocubu's armor soon 01:28:29 LogicNinja (L6 DEFE) ERROR in 'beam.cc' at line 389: ASSERT failed: z_type of 74 out of range 0 (0) .. NUM_ZAPS (74) (D:4) 01:28:29 it's the most tedious buff because having it up at all times is optimal but the duration sucks 01:28:44 darkli (L1 OpIE) ERROR in 'beam.cc' at line 389: ASSERT failed: z_type of 74 out of range 0 (0) .. NUM_ZAPS (74) (D:1) 01:28:48 -!- somebody has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 01:28:51 Grunt what did you do 01:29:10 crawlian (L16 DEFE) ERROR in 'beam.cc' at line 389: ASSERT failed: z_type of 74 out of range 0 (0) .. NUM_ZAPS (74) (Elf:2) 01:29:26 darkli (L1 OpIE) ERROR in 'beam.cc' at line 389: ASSERT failed: z_type of 74 out of range 0 (0) .. NUM_ZAPS (74) (D:1) 01:29:27 -!- demiskeleton_ has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 01:29:29 crawlian (L16 DEFE) ERROR in 'beam.cc' at line 389: ASSERT failed: z_type of 74 out of range 0 (0) .. NUM_ZAPS (74) (Elf:2) 01:29:55 LogicNinja (L7 DEFE) ERROR in 'beam.cc' at line 389: ASSERT failed: z_type of 74 out of range 0 (0) .. NUM_ZAPS (74) (D:4) 01:30:11 -!- AreBrandon has joined ##crawl-dev 01:30:37 darkli (L1 OpIE) ERROR in 'beam.cc' at line 389: ASSERT failed: z_type of 74 out of range 0 (0) .. NUM_ZAPS (74) (D:1) 01:31:25 crawlian (L16 DEFE) ERROR in 'beam.cc' at line 389: ASSERT failed: z_type of 74 out of range 0 (0) .. NUM_ZAPS (74) (Elf:3) 01:31:32 darkli (L1 OpIE) ERROR in 'beam.cc' at line 389: ASSERT failed: z_type of 74 out of range 0 (0) .. NUM_ZAPS (74) (D:1) 01:31:41 maybe the patch should be reverted until the bug is fixed 01:31:48 crawlian (L16 DEFE) ERROR in 'beam.cc' at line 389: ASSERT failed: z_type of 74 out of range 0 (0) .. NUM_ZAPS (74) (Elf:3) 01:31:49 it's going to be impossible to play spellcasters until then 01:32:39 crawlian (L16 DEFE) ERROR in 'beam.cc' at line 389: ASSERT failed: z_type of 74 out of range 0 (0) .. NUM_ZAPS (74) (Elf:3) 01:33:17 crawlian (L16 DEFE) ERROR in 'beam.cc' at line 389: ASSERT failed: z_type of 74 out of range 0 (0) .. NUM_ZAPS (74) (Elf:3) 01:33:39 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 01:33:57 darkli (L1 DEIE) ERROR in 'beam.cc' at line 389: ASSERT failed: z_type of 74 out of range 0 (0) .. NUM_ZAPS (74) (D (Sprint)) 01:34:21 darkli (L1 OpIE) ERROR in 'beam.cc' at line 389: ASSERT failed: z_type of 74 out of range 0 (0) .. NUM_ZAPS (74) (Zot (ZotDef)) 01:34:27 goddamnit I can't even play ZotDef 01:34:40 crawlian (L16 DEFE) ERROR in 'beam.cc' at line 389: ASSERT failed: z_type of 74 out of range 0 (0) .. NUM_ZAPS (74) (Elf:3) 01:35:12 LogicNinja (L8 DEFE) ERROR in 'beam.cc' at line 389: ASSERT failed: z_type of 74 out of range 0 (0) .. NUM_ZAPS (74) (D:6) 01:35:57 crawlian (L16 DEFE) ERROR in 'beam.cc' at line 389: ASSERT failed: z_type of 74 out of range 0 (0) .. NUM_ZAPS (74) (Elf:3) 01:36:29 crawlian (L16 DEFE) ERROR in 'beam.cc' at line 389: ASSERT failed: z_type of 74 out of range 0 (0) .. NUM_ZAPS (74) (Elf:3) 01:36:46 crawlian (L16 DEFE) ERROR in 'beam.cc' at line 389: ASSERT failed: z_type of 74 out of range 0 (0) .. NUM_ZAPS (74) (Elf:3) 01:37:05 crawlian (L16 DEFE) ERROR in 'beam.cc' at line 389: ASSERT failed: z_type of 74 out of range 0 (0) .. NUM_ZAPS (74) (Elf:3) 01:37:11 Gorice (L15 HEWn) ERROR in 'beam.cc' at line 389: ASSERT failed: z_type of 74 out of range 0 (0) .. NUM_ZAPS (74) (Orc:4) 01:37:22 crawlian (L16 DEFE) ERROR in 'beam.cc' at line 389: ASSERT failed: z_type of 74 out of range 0 (0) .. NUM_ZAPS (74) (Elf:3) 01:37:39 crawlian (L16 DEFE) ERROR in 'beam.cc' at line 389: ASSERT failed: z_type of 74 out of range 0 (0) .. NUM_ZAPS (74) (Elf:3) 01:37:54 crawlian (L16 DEFE) ERROR in 'beam.cc' at line 389: ASSERT failed: z_type of 74 out of range 0 (0) .. NUM_ZAPS (74) (Elf:3) 01:38:20 I'm testing a fix 01:38:36 <|amethyst> oh, me too :) 01:38:40 Gorice (L15 HEWn) ERROR in 'beam.cc' at line 389: ASSERT failed: z_type of 74 out of range 0 (0) .. NUM_ZAPS (74) (Orc:4) 01:39:01 LogicNinja (L8 DEFE) ERROR in 'beam.cc' at line 389: ASSERT failed: z_type of 74 out of range 0 (0) .. NUM_ZAPS (74) (D:7) 01:39:01 |amethyst: well yours is porbably cleaner 01:39:10 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:39:17 zap_type zap = spell_to_zap(spell); 01:39:18 const int eff_pow = zap == NUM_ZAPS ? powc : zap_ench_power(zap, powc); 01:39:23 is basically what I was doing 01:40:05 <|amethyst> I did that and moved it into the if (mr_check) 01:40:12 LogicNinja (L8 DEFE) ERROR in 'beam.cc' at line 389: ASSERT failed: z_type of 74 out of range 0 (0) .. NUM_ZAPS (74) (D:7) 01:40:20 well, glad I wasn't too far off then :) 01:40:31 LogicNinja (L8 DEFE) ERROR in 'beam.cc' at line 389: ASSERT failed: z_type of 74 out of range 0 (0) .. NUM_ZAPS (74) (D:7) 01:40:42 03|amethyst02 07* 0.16-a0-3228-ge148b08: Don't crash when casting targetted non-zap spells (Grunt) 10(5 minutes ago, 1 file, 7+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=e148b082c5e1 01:41:34 push it into trunk so I can go back to splatting OpIE 01:41:40 LogicNinja (L9 DEFE) ERROR in 'beam.cc' at line 389: ASSERT failed: z_type of 74 out of range 0 (0) .. NUM_ZAPS (74) (D:7) 01:41:42 <|amethyst> rebuilding cszo now 01:41:46 he just did push it to trunk 01:42:29 thank you 01:42:31 things being pushed to trunk is what those messages from Cheibriados are a large majority of the time 01:42:41 Gorice (L15 HEWn) ERROR in 'beam.cc' at line 389: ASSERT failed: z_type of 74 out of range 0 (0) .. NUM_ZAPS (74) (Orc:4) 01:42:49 darkli (L1 OpIE) ERROR in 'beam.cc' at line 389: ASSERT failed: z_type of 74 out of range 0 (0) .. NUM_ZAPS (74) (D:1) 01:42:59 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.16-a0-3228-ge148b08 (34) 01:42:59 sigh 01:43:06 well, there we go 01:43:45 darkli (L1 OpIE) ERROR in 'beam.cc' at line 389: ASSERT failed: z_type of 74 out of range 0 (0) .. NUM_ZAPS (74) (D:1) 01:44:12 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 01:44:44 LogicNinja (L8 DEFE) ERROR in 'beam.cc' at line 389: ASSERT failed: z_type of 74 out of range 0 (0) .. NUM_ZAPS (74) (D:7) 01:45:14 LogicNinja (L8 DEFE) ERROR in 'beam.cc' at line 389: ASSERT failed: z_type of 74 out of range 0 (0) .. NUM_ZAPS (74) (D:7) 01:45:31 LogicNinja (L8 DEFE) ERROR in 'beam.cc' at line 389: ASSERT failed: z_type of 74 out of range 0 (0) .. NUM_ZAPS (74) (D:7) 01:45:59 LogicNinja (L8 DEFE) ERROR in 'beam.cc' at line 389: ASSERT failed: z_type of 74 out of range 0 (0) .. NUM_ZAPS (74) (D:7) 01:46:21 LogicNinja (L8 DEFE) ERROR in 'beam.cc' at line 389: ASSERT failed: z_type of 74 out of range 0 (0) .. NUM_ZAPS (74) (D:7) 01:46:38 LogicNinja (L8 DEFE) ERROR in 'beam.cc' at line 389: ASSERT failed: z_type of 74 out of range 0 (0) .. NUM_ZAPS (74) (D:7) 01:46:54 ??eksell 01:46:54 Eksell[1/1]: cxc bot 01:46:57 LogicNinja (L8 DEFE) ERROR in 'beam.cc' at line 389: ASSERT failed: z_type of 74 out of range 0 (0) .. NUM_ZAPS (74) (D:7) 01:47:23 hrm, is LogicNinja not upgrading 01:47:27 <|amethyst> correct 01:47:30 probably 01:47:54 hopefully he'll just figure out he need to do that 01:48:10 LogicNinja (L8 DEFE) ERROR in 'beam.cc' at line 389: ASSERT failed: z_type of 74 out of range 0 (0) .. NUM_ZAPS (74) (D:7) 01:48:12 <|amethyst> or maybe e wants a crash-on-demand trigger 01:48:36 LogicNinja (L8 DEFE) ERROR in 'beam.cc' at line 389: ASSERT failed: z_type of 74 out of range 0 (0) .. NUM_ZAPS (74) (D:7) 01:49:02 LogicNinja (L8 DEFE) ERROR in 'beam.cc' at line 389: ASSERT failed: z_type of 74 out of range 0 (0) .. NUM_ZAPS (74) (D:7) 01:49:32 LogicNinja (L8 DEFE) ERROR in 'beam.cc' at line 389: ASSERT failed: z_type of 74 out of range 0 (0) .. NUM_ZAPS (74) (D:7) 01:50:14 |amethyst: he's playing 01:50:16 the mutation roulette 01:50:22 with a mut pot 01:50:24 <|amethyst> haha 01:50:55 Game crashes with range check error when casting conjure flame 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9353 by Gorice 01:51:36 |amethyst: you've started rebuild on cxc? 01:51:46 not sure if we have that yet 01:51:48 ??rebuild 01:51:48 rebuild[1/2]: https://dobrazupa.org/rebuild/ http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rebuild/ http://crawl.lantea.net/rebuild/ http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/rebuild/ http://crawl.xtahua.com/rebuild/ Bug Grunt, |amethyst, or Nap Kin for CDO. Use your powers wisely. 01:51:51 <|amethyst> I have not 01:52:05 <|amethyst> I have now 01:52:20 what a difference one letter makes 01:52:43 &versions 01:52:48 !versions 01:53:03 !version 01:53:06 trunk: 0.16-a0-3218-g9b393b2; 0.15: 0.15.2; 0.14: 0.14.2; 0.13: 0.13.2; 0.12: 0.12.3; 0.11: 0.11.3; 0.10: 0.10.3-19-g6f05415 01:53:13 &version 01:53:36 *: 0.16-a0-3280-ga4b3123 01:53:37 CAO: 0.16-a0-3218-g9b393b2, CBRO: 0.16-a0-3218-g9b393b2, CDO: 0.16-a0-3218-g9b393b2, CKR: 0.16-a0-3280-ga4b3123, CLAN: 0.16-a0-3219-g20c30b8, CPO: 0.16-a0-3211-g52b77fd, CSZO: 0.16-a0-3228-ge148b08, CXC: 0.16-a0-3227-gebd230d, LLD: 0.16-a0-3257-gd5e24d5 01:54:30 <|amethyst> %git 0.16-a0-3280-ga4b3123 01:54:30 Could not find commit 0.16-a0-3280-ga4b3123 (git returned 128) 01:54:34 yeah that uh 01:54:37 confused me 01:54:47 <|amethyst> %git 0.16-a0-3257-gd5e24d5 01:54:47 Could not find commit 0.16-a0-3257-gd5e24d5 (git returned 128) 01:55:01 %git a4b3123 01:55:01 Could not find commit a4b3123 (git returned 128) 01:55:13 <|amethyst> I guess local patches on both servers 01:55:29 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.16-a0-3228-ge148b08 (34) 01:58:11 hopefully charm reform happens soon 02:01:43 |amethyst: yeah, ckr does show that version (3280) in-game, but the changelog doesn't' show anything 02:02:09 03|amethyst02 07* 0.16-a0-3229-g30bf5cb: Use scaled ints in _success_chance. 10(8 minutes ago, 1 file, 18+ 10-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=30bf5cb2bb4d 02:04:06 03|amethyst02 07* 0.16-a0-3230-gc2f0b36: Unbrace. 10(16 seconds ago, 1 file, 0+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=c2f0b3643378 02:07:08 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 02:07:46 -!- thromnambular has quit [Quit: leaving] 02:08:21 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:10:54 -!- tgcid has joined ##crawl-dev 02:13:09 -!- AreBrandon has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 02:13:54 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 02:15:48 -!- cr0ne has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:16:41 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 02:16:49 hackum (L14 OpFi) ERROR in 'beam.cc' at line 389: ASSERT failed: z_type of 74 out of range 0 (0) .. NUM_ZAPS (74) (Orc:4) 02:21:55 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.16-a0-3230-gc2f0b36 (34) 02:25:07 -!- simmarine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:29:01 -!- Yermak has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:29:15 -!- demiskeleton has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 02:40:33 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 02:44:16 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 02:51:19 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 02:53:34 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 02:55:22 -!- gammafunk has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 02:59:08 -!- Blomdor has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:03:56 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:07:36 -!- winlu has quit [Changing host] 03:18:08 -!- winlu has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.1-dev] 03:18:26 -!- alefury has joined ##crawl-dev 03:18:41 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 03:21:22 This tavern thread (https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=14430) had me thinking about TSO/summoner interations 03:21:39 please sue the ppl who made the steam game "Crawl" so I can refer to the proper Crawl as Crawl without people being confused 03:21:41 ty 03:22:31 oh I was going to ask a question abut the code base but in writing it I thought of a better way to do 'enemies don't become distracted' 03:22:54 s.t. the conduct stays basically the same but the interaction with allies is not insane 03:23:57 -!- lessens has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:28:26 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 03:31:21 -!- demiskeleton_ has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 03:33:16 -!- Shados_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:34:19 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 03:46:22 -!- eb has quit [] 03:49:21 -!- demiskeleton__ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:50:39 -!- myp has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 03:54:38 -!- Azzkikr has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:57:29 -!- link_108 has joined ##crawl-dev 03:59:50 -!- link_108 has quit [Client Quit] 04:03:07 question 04:05:05 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:12:47 -!- Azzkikr has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 04:16:49 -!- penciltax has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 04:30:17 -!- Azzkikr has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:33:28 -!- SickSadWorld has quit [Quit: Page closed] 04:34:58 ok 04:35:05 since when did Purgy spawn in earlygame as a normal unique 04:36:29 a long time, I think 04:36:31 ??tentacle spike 04:36:31 I don't have a page labeled tentacle_spike in my learndb. 04:36:46 because this is the first time I ever saw him outside of the sewer 04:38:28 also 04:38:35 since when did Nessos shoot only regular poison arrows 04:38:38 -!- NotKintak has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:40:24 -!- tcsc has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 04:49:35 ??claws 04:49:36 claws[1/1]: +2 base unarmed damage per level and increases {punch} damage. Level 3 chops off hydra heads. The effects of claws are eliminated if you're wearing gloves, but at claws 3 you can't use the slot anyways. 04:49:40 ??spike 04:49:40 spike ~ spines ~ spiny[1/1]: Mutation, has a chance of doing (2 + (x-1)/2)d5 (where x is mutation level) - enemy AC - player EVP/3) damage to enemies in melee combat when their attack is not blocked by the player. Subject to monster EV. Doesn't check EVP in 0.15 05:07:23 game crashes if casting meph cloud or conjure flame 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9354 by Le_Nerd 05:13:34 ??starting stats [2[ 05:13:34 I don't have a page labeled starting stats [2[ in my learndb. 05:13:36 ??starting stats [2 05:13:36 starting stats[2/3]: Ce 10,7,4 | DD 11,8,8 | DE 5,12,10 | Dg 11,12,11 | Dr 10,8,6 | Ds 8,9,8 | Fe 4,9,11 | Fo 12,7,6 | Gh 11,3,4 | Gr 11,8,5 | Ha 8,7,9 | HE 7,11,10 | HO 10,8,6 | Hu 8,8,8 | Ko 6,6,11 | Mf 8,7,9 | Mi 12,5,5 | Mu 11,7,7 | Na 10,8,6 | Og 12,7,5 | Op 7,10,7 | Sp 4,9,11 | Te 8,8,9 | Tr 15,4,5 | Vp 7,10,9 | VS 10,8,9 05:25:35 -!- Basil has joined ##crawl-dev 05:25:59 -!- Basil is now known as Guest95609 05:31:54 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:41:28 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 05:48:56 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 05:59:26 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 06:00:22 -!- Sorbius has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 06:04:04 -!- pentax has quit [Quit: ヒーロー見参!] 06:14:04 -!- tcsc has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 06:23:41 -!- YorkeSC has quit [Client Quit] 06:26:23 -!- halberd has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:37:22 -!- Fiveotanaka has quit [Quit: Page closed] 06:40:52 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 06:41:01 -!- st_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:41:29 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 07:05:23 -!- pwnmonkey has joined ##crawl-dev 07:06:16 -!- heteroy has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 07:16:46 -!- RFJesus1egend4r1 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 07:17:45 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 07:30:26 -!- edlothiol has joined ##crawl-dev 07:48:00 -!- syllogism has joined ##crawl-dev 07:59:06 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 08:08:04 -!- Surr has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:09:24 -!- Kalma has quit [Quit: *_*] 08:12:43 -!- Wolfechu has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 08:13:50 -!- Tuxedo[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 08:21:31 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:24:13 -!- Wahaha has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 08:43:11 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:44:20 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 08:48:27 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 08:52:04 -!- Ququman has joined ##crawl-dev 08:53:00 -!- jeanjacques has joined ##crawl-dev 08:53:53 -!- Tuxedo[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 08:54:37 -!- Fusha has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:57:42 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 09:03:41 -!- Brannock has joined ##crawl-dev 09:04:34 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:07:41 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 09:10:59 -!- Tuxedo[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 09:15:15 -!- Fusha has quit [Disconnected by services] 09:15:21 -!- Fusha2 is now known as FUsha 09:15:23 -!- FUsha is now known as Fusha 09:16:46 -!- Tolias has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:17:41 -!- SANIC has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:17:54 -!- Turgon has quit [Client Quit] 09:18:59 -!- Bloaxor has joined ##crawl-dev 09:19:17 -!- Bloax has quit [Quit: Error: Bloax not found] 09:19:56 -!- PolkaDot has joined ##crawl-dev 09:38:35 -!- radinms has quit [] 09:48:19 since enemy weapon brands auto-ID now, do yiuf/erica/psyche/sonja still need inscriptions on their weapon drops? 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(no_backtracking_god - 2d16852 #1195 : Corin Buchanan-Howland): http://travis-ci.org/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/builds/44749443 11:47:03 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 11:49:22 Uhmm. Is there anything wrong with the line "ae += This is the only time "curing" is mentioned in my rc file, I think. 11:51:30 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 11:51:53 .crushed -tv 11:51:54 92. scvgo23, XL20 GrFi, T:47776 requested for FooTV: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 11:52:07 <|amethyst> somebody: local or server? 11:52:13 <|amethyst> somebody: and which OS or server? 11:52:16 |amethyst: CLAN. 11:55:50 <|amethyst> somebody: hm, do you have some other ae rule that would match curing? 11:57:18 <|amethyst> > rules override < rules 11:58:11 03|amethyst02 07* 0.16-a0-3237-ga5a3791: Fix kennysheep_goblin_castle boss choice (Bloax) 10(9 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=a5a3791996e3 11:58:11 03|amethyst02 07* 0.16-a0-3238-g3da7eb4: Don't prompt the player about involuntary polymorphs (#9339) 10(73 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=3da7eb42f454 11:58:13 |amethyst: There is an autopickup "if" thing for Pandemonium, but I think it is also the one with ">". 11:58:19 <|amethyst> somebody: what is that one? 11:58:41 Hmm. I don't have any ">" symbols in my rc file. 11:58:45 <|amethyst> &rc somebody 11:58:47 http://crawl.lantea.net/crawl/rcfiles/crawl-git/Somebody.rc 11:59:25 <|amethyst> somebody: aha 11:59:29 <|amethyst> somebody: ae += (amulet|ring|magical staff) 11:59:38 <|amethyst> somebody: guess which four letters occur in "curing" 11:59:46 <|amethyst> (if there is no < it's a > rule) 12:00:05 somebody: Oh. I am out of here to have an existential crisis. 12:00:08 Thank you! 12:00:16 <|amethyst> could change that to ...|ring of|... 12:00:17 -!- Ragdoll has joined ##crawl-dev 12:00:17 <|amethyst> np 12:00:50 |amethyst: Yes, it was the idea. Thanks again! 12:02:26 early quicksilver makes for some interesting games 12:02:28 hmm hmm 12:03:06 oh oops 12:04:12 remind me when I get home to not backtrack on my commitmemt to test Wulndraste 12:04:15 <_< 12:04:26 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:05:10 -!- KurzedMetal has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:06:57 !tell Grunt Reminder: do not dare you backtrack on the Backtrackicus god! 12:06:57 somebody: OK, I'll let grunt know. 12:11:53 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:12:33 Grunt: it should be less painful no 12:12:34 now 12:13:53 !dispel somebody 12:13:54 Grunt points at somebody and mumbles some strange words. somebody convulses! 12:14:56 !emrace grunt 12:15:04 !lcs somebody 12:15:05 Grunt casts a spell at somebody. The crystal spear hits somebody!!!!! 12:15:10 Khem-khem. 12:15:20 I'll write this off as a miscast. 12:15:27 !embrace Grunt 12:15:28 somebody casts a spell. The bodies of the dead rush to embrace Grunt! 12:15:37 !silence Grunt 12:15:43 Hmm. 12:16:04 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 12:23:19 03ChrisOelmueller02 {|amethyst} 07* 0.16-a0-3239-g9bc942c: Improve monster list indicator for skipped monsters 10(6 weeks ago, 1 file, 6+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=9bc942c87b64 12:23:19 03|amethyst02 07* 0.16-a0-3240-g4e2c804: Use, not simulate, reverse video 10(17 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 3-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=4e2c804605a0 12:23:19 03|amethyst02 07* 0.16-a0-3241-ga368563: Recolor wizmode indicator not-blue (ChrisOelmueller) 10(84 seconds ago, 1 file, 11+ 11-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=a368563ffa1c 12:28:54 -!- Erashi has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:32:50 03|amethyst02 07* 0.16-a0-3242-g92d15ef: Don't encourage feature = ... 10(16 seconds ago, 1 file, 7+ 7-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=92d15ef4e477 12:33:01 !silence somebody 12:33:01 Grunt gestures wildly while chanting. A profound silence engulfs somebody. 12:33:31 |amethyst: "Don't encourage features." 12:35:55 -!- bullock has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:37:01 -!- markgo has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 12:38:49 Ha-ha, thanks. 12:41:40 Hmm. Can I have an rc '>' for any identified jewelry, but a '<' rule for artefacts, including jewelry? 12:41:43 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 12:41:48 These look like they are going to overlap. 12:42:50 once someone implements ^= and += actually mattering, maybe 12:42:50 wheals: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 12:42:52 !messages 12:42:52 (1/1) ChrisOelmueller said (14h 44m 25s ago): thanks a bunch (also for the fixes!) 12:43:03 <|amethyst> they'll only overlap on identified artefact jewellery 12:43:04 <|amethyst> which I guess really means unrands 12:43:15 |amethyst: or ash 12:43:18 <|amethyst> oh right 12:43:23 <|amethyst> there's not really a good way currently 12:43:27 !tell ChrisOelmueller well, "fixes" (that was a lot of crashes) 12:43:27 wheals: OK, I'll let chrisoelmueller know. 12:43:42 <|amethyst> what you could do is remove "= from your autopickup option 12:43:53 <|amethyst> then add a < for unidentified jewellery and another for artefacts 12:44:06 |amethyst: Oh, this could work. Thanks! 12:44:15 <|amethyst> I'm probably forgetting some corner cases that would make it not quite the same 12:44:19 <|amethyst> but it's a start :) 12:44:20 |amethyst: should i maybe replace `if (!zinfo) return pow;` with `ASSERT(zinfo)` in zap_ench_power? i assumed it was for NUM_ZAPS, but apparently that triggers the ASSERT_RANGE 12:44:29 <|amethyst> wheals: I think so, yes 12:44:53 <|amethyst> wheals: it would handle a case where some zap was missing from the array 12:45:04 <|amethyst> wheals: but in that case you want to assert (or catch it at compile time) 12:45:10 |amethyst: I guess I will need an "if" for you.god ~= "Ashenzari". 12:45:21 yeah, that's a pain :/ 12:46:13 i guess you could run some kind of check for that in init_zap_index()? 12:46:18 so that it gets caught at startup 12:46:42 <|amethyst> wheals: alternatively, you could make _seek_zap allow NUM_ZAPS (returning nullptr) 12:47:03 <|amethyst> wheals: since everything that calls _seek_zap does check for null 12:47:51 yeah, i _assumed_ that was the behaviour 12:47:52 <|amethyst> wheals: in init_zap_index but also a COMPILE_CHECK() on the size 12:48:22 that wouldn't help if an entry was doubled and another entry was missing 12:48:26 though that may be unlikely 12:48:32 <|amethyst> wheals: which is why I said also 12:48:36 right 12:50:58 -!- Lumpydoo has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:51:50 Hmm. Can I make an rc file rule specifically for artefact jewelry and armor, but not say, weapons? 12:54:45 -!- Tolias_ is now known as Tolias 12:55:41 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 12:58:19 <|amethyst> somebody: artefact.*(armour|jewellery) 12:58:42 -!- gareppa has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:59:16 |amethyst: <3 12:59:40 <|amethyst> (really you could use a space instead of .*, since the only thing that could come between would be "equipped" 12:59:48 <|amethyst> but this way is more future-proof) 13:01:31 Making things future-proof is beautiful, I have to agree. 13:01:42 I wonder, how many obsolete lines are there in my rc file. 13:03:34 -- If this weren't Lua this line could be replaced with "continue". 13:03:36 good comment 13:05:13 -!- zxc232 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:05:46 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 13:16:51 -!- SomeStupidGuy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:17:10 -!- cs_0x6373 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:17:30 writing lua functions seems to be hard when you don't know the language 13:19:12 -!- Ragdoll has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:20:19 is anyone else interested in adding Christmas easter eggs? 13:20:32 you seem to have your holidays confused 13:21:32 wheals: :) 13:22:05 <|amethyst> k - legendary Advent calendar of destruction 13:22:48 give sigmund a santa hat 13:22:52 he knows when you've been good, and when you've been bad 13:22:58 <|amethyst> Brannock: we did that last year 13:23:03 <|amethyst> %git :/Satan 13:23:03 07kilobyte02 * 0.14-a0-1625-gb8d3063: Speech for Satan Claus. 10(12 months ago, 1 file, 4+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=b8d3063babbc 13:23:03 that explains where I got the idea from 13:23:08 !! Elves. Duh 13:23:20 <|amethyst> %git hohoho 13:23:21 07bh02 * 0.16-a0-3219-g4df37c0: Reform Song of Slaying 10(27 hours ago, 2 files, 2+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=4df37c0101c5 13:23:23 -!- heteroy has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:24:42 <|amethyst> https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=14421 13:26:31 |amethyst: it could use a bit of shading... but yeah. 13:27:04 -!- tgcid has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:32:26 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 13:34:11 I had been considering suggesting Elf be filled with Satan's Elves... 13:35:17 Lasty: just saw your GDD post on the W change, that seems very good :) 13:35:49 -!- tgcid has joined ##crawl-dev 13:35:52 i'm still not happy with the fact that that you can stairdance tomb:1 -> tomb:2 and tomb:2 -> tomb:1, but it's no blocker 13:36:32 and coming up with a clear, simple, elsewhere nonintrusive rule that disallows that may very well be impossible 13:36:52 wheals: yeah, the old way was intolerable 13:37:09 You can also stairdance d:15, U:5, and L:8 13:37:11 wheals: just make Tomb torment the player if they use the stairs :) 13:38:16 2 other comments: the < message should make it clear you will be put in penance (some other messages do this explicitly); and the ^ should IMO give an explicit statement of the conduct, probably on the second screen 13:39:00 good pints! 13:39:00 points too 13:39:14 bh: Tomb effects! 13:39:17 can I have a good pint please 13:39:19 !banish somebody 13:39:19 Grunt casts a spell. somebody is cast into beam.cc! 13:39:28 !cheers Grunt 13:39:28 * Sequell slides a stein of cabernet sauvignon across the bar to Grunt, courtesy of Lasty. 13:39:32 * somebody is cast into ##crawl. 13:39:33 apparently not 13:39:36 !beer Lasty 13:39:37 * Sequell slides a can of root beer down the bar to Lasty, courtesy of Grunt. 13:39:37 -!- Roderic has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:39:44 can of root beer 13:39:48 that is not a pint 13:40:20 -!- somebody has left ##crawl-dev 13:42:23 -!- NotKintak has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:42:29 Lasty: if you want to prevent stairdancing L:8 etc. you could do that alongside the whole altar-planting thing 13:42:29 ontoclasm: You have 2 messages. Use !messages to read them. 13:42:40 i.e. you can't go up from L:8 until you do it 13:42:44 !messages 13:42:45 (1/2) roctavian said (1d 6m 33s ago): http://imgur.com/7cMGUvf books, so far. i can't really decide what to do about overlays 13:42:49 !messages 13:42:50 (1/1) bh said (21h 8m 54s ago): could you make a christmas tree tile? :) 13:43:48 ontoclasm: sorry, I'm greedy 13:43:53 hah 13:47:40 -!- somebody has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 13:49:09 03ChrisOelmueller02 {wheals} 07* 0.16-a0-3243-g81848e5: Make troves asking for the horn of Geryon take it from players 10(4 days ago, 1 file, 12+ 7-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=81848e55ed1a 13:49:09 03wheals02 07* 0.16-a0-3244-ge1a2cb9: Make that a bit prettier. 10(29 minutes ago, 1 file, 17+ 11-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=e1a2cb9a5b36 13:52:17 -!- Harkenn has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 13:53:04 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 14:00:17 Lasty: ping 14:01:29 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 14:03:15 Grunt: pong 14:05:53 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 14:06:59 -!- rockygargoyle has joined ##crawl-dev 14:07:19 the powered by death mutation is literally useless if you worship gozag 14:07:26 is there a way to "solve" this? 14:08:49 <|amethyst> change gods? 14:09:01 just did 14:09:07 <|amethyst> (could be fixed by counting Gozag-flagged gold) 14:09:16 <|amethyst> to Kiku? 14:09:44 I switched to fedhas 14:10:24 something like this happened before, with okawaru/demonic guardian 14:10:30 <|amethyst> ah, that works as long as you don't sacrifice too early 14:10:55 <|amethyst> that was a little different, in that suppressing the mutation was an explicit decision 14:11:18 <|amethyst> (without that, it meant free punishment instead) 14:11:28 I remember 14:11:55 but like you said, I think the best solution would be to have the gold act like corpses 14:11:57 in this case 14:12:06 "powered by gold" 14:12:52 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 14:13:04 rockygargoyle: the way to solve it is to do nothing 14:13:20 There is no problem to have certain species have drawbacks / strenghts to following certain gods. 14:13:25 s/to have/in having/ 14:13:29 <|amethyst> the only thing bad about the current situation is that you might go Gozag before you learn that you will have that mutation 14:14:00 i am fine about some species having drawbacks with some gods 14:14:44 but demonspawn are different 14:14:52 you don't know what mutations will develop 14:15:17 grunt: sup 14:15:22 Lasty: I'll investigate that bug later :) 14:15:40 ok 14:15:40 Lasty: also I was pinging you to show you the bug at D:15 14:15:43 ah 14:17:29 It should be about set_stair_backtracking_status() and valid_downward_path_exists() in travel.cc 14:19:10 -!- halberd has quit [Changing host] 14:19:16 set_stair_backtrackticus_status 14:19:34 will satan claus return 14:21:20 !send Santaeus Lasty 14:21:21 Sending Lasty to Santaeus. 14:21:21 er 14:21:23 !send Santaeus Lightli 14:21:23 Sending Lightli to Santaeus. 14:22:19 !tell bh come up with some lyrics for Song of Sleighing btw; I have Ideas™ 14:22:19 Grunt: OK, I'll let bh know. 14:22:27 uh oh 14:22:35 -!- syllogism has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:22:35 * wheals flees in terror! 14:24:14 <|amethyst> Gloria in excelsis TSO 14:24:37 !learn e wheals[2] s/remove ranged param from resist_adjust_damage/better hit prompts 14:24:38 wheals[2/8]: todo: leeches, plague shamblers???, wind wall, the home shopping network, species-data, butchering time-taking, remove effects.cc, better hit prompts 14:24:47 Shadow step works when umbra is canceled 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9355 by Berder 14:25:55 <|amethyst> and one can verify that the code only checks umbra radius 14:26:02 <|amethyst> not whether particular squares are umbraed 14:26:11 <|amethyst> the question is, which should change, the ability or the description? 14:27:01 <|amethyst> The desciption currently says "If a creature within your umbra ..." 14:27:04 <|amethyst> s/scip/scrip/ 14:27:39 Grunt: Hopefully he gives me a less annoying version of ozocubu's armour 14:28:43 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:29:01 Lasty: ugh 14:29:06 Lasty: I'm on a 64-bit system, so crashes ahoy 14:29:23 ??crash 14:29:23 crash[1/1]: If you crash and the state does not seem recoverable, go to Advanced Options in dgl and then Backup Save File and let the developers know you've done so when you file a report in mantis: crawl.develz.org/mantis 14:29:51 03wheals02 07* 0.16-a0-3245-g608cac2: Add SPFLAG_MR_CHECK to Inner Flame. 10(5 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=608cac22783d 14:30:24 -!- theTower has joined ##crawl-dev 14:31:11 Grunt: yeah, go ahead and fix that too :D 14:31:22 !banish Lasty 14:31:22 Grunt casts a spell. Lasty is cast into the Abyss! 14:31:34 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 14:33:22 <|amethyst> wheals: I wonder if we can somehow combine that and has_saving_throw() 14:33:33 <|amethyst> wheals: it's a little difficult because the latter goes by beam flavour, not spell 14:33:41 <|amethyst> wheals: but I hate seeing all this information duplicated 14:33:46 there was also the thing that pleasingfungus was working on 14:40:03 wtf 14:40:03 this makes no sense 14:40:08 apparently the thing overwriting ff.bcheck is 14:40:11 the ranged for??????? 14:40:19 <|amethyst> where? 14:40:30 |amethyst: travel.cc:4793-4796 14:41:02 oh, I guess I merged master before I started working on this, so the offsets might be different, but I don't think anything has touched travel.cc? 14:41:17 <|amethyst> there aren't that many lines in either branch 14:41:49 ??? 14:43:13 <|amethyst> oh, sorry 14:43:15 wait a second, why are these vectors 14:43:19 <|amethyst> had an old version of the branch 14:46:54 <|amethyst> the bcheck member probably shouldn't be a reference 14:49:30 <|amethyst> in_bounds is a function, the member is a const reference to a function pointer 14:49:41 <|amethyst> function -> pointer is a decay, not equivalence 14:49:55 <|amethyst> so the pointer you get from it is an rvalue 14:50:04 <|amethyst> storing a reference to an rvalue is bad 14:50:39 -!- AlexMcc has quit [] 14:51:07 <|amethyst> that might also explain not seeing the problem with local builds, which are likely to be unoptimised 14:51:15 <|amethyst> or at least have different compilers and flags 14:51:56 <|amethyst> oh, hm 14:52:01 <|amethyst> but it's always been that way 14:53:18 -!- Schizzik has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:56:51 er 14:56:53 this is interesting 14:57:18 I changed the vectors at travel.cc:4667 and :4674 into const arrays 14:57:28 and now bcheck gets overwritten by coord_def stair_coord; 14:58:06 ...because stair_coord has the same address as bcheck?????????? 14:58:21 <|amethyst> ah 14:58:25 <|amethyst> then it is what I was saying 14:58:50 <|amethyst> in flood_find.h, change const bound_check &bcheck; to bound_check bcheck; 14:59:01 <|amethyst> see if that fixes it 15:00:03 <|amethyst> if so, that change should happen in trunk too 15:00:24 |amethyst: success 15:01:01 |amethyst: want to write up a commit (and/or a commit message)? 15:01:44 -!- demiskeleton has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:01:50 ...because I don't understand what's being fixed here :) 15:02:13 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 15:09:22 -!- muravey has joined ##crawl-dev 15:09:29 wheals: I went back and forth on the resist thing and eventually moved it into the "long-term" section of my todo 15:09:33 can someone help me find explanation for why summon elemental was removed? 15:09:37 so I think I decided the current implementation was worse than nothing 15:09:39 I can't find the commit 15:09:43 %git :/summon elemental 15:09:44 07DracoOmega02 * 0.13-a0-1838-g84a54ea: Tweak the number of elementals created by monster summon elemental spells 10(1 year, 6 months ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=84a54eac1cb5 15:09:48 %git :/Summon Elemental 15:09:49 07Grunt02 * 0.15-a0-639-g1b0b24d: Borrow the Summon Elemental icon for Elemental Force. 10(8 months ago, 3 files, 3+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=1b0b24d4209a 15:09:53 !gitgrep 2 {/ummon [Ee]lemental] 15:09:54 %git HEAD^{/{/ummon [Ee]lemental]}^^{/{/ummon [Ee]lemental]} 15:09:54 Could not find commit HEAD^{/{/ummon [Ee]lemental]}^^{/{/ummon [Ee]lemental]} (git returned 128) 15:09:56 %git f6694988d39908c035bb559df60ab662fdbfe85d 15:09:56 07MarvinPA02 * 0.15-a0-462-gf669498: Remove the Summon Elemental spell 10(8 months ago, 19 files, 53+ 243-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=f6694988d399 15:09:59 !gitgrep 2 ummon [Ee]lemental 15:09:59 %git HEAD^{/ummon [Ee]lemental}^^{/ummon [Ee]lemental} 15:09:59 07MarvinPA02 * 0.15-a0-462-gf669498: Remove the Summon Elemental spell 10(8 months ago, 19 files, 53+ 243-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=f6694988d399 15:10:01 !gitgrep 2 Summon Elemental 15:10:01 %git HEAD^{/Summon Elemental}^^{/Summon Elemental} 15:10:01 07MarvinPA02 * 0.15-a0-462-gf669498: Remove the Summon Elemental spell 10(8 months ago, 19 files, 53+ 243-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=f6694988d399 15:10:01 PleasingFungus: dang 15:10:08 Grunt: dang 15:10:09 Grunt: :P 15:10:12 that command owns 15:10:16 it's neat 15:10:18 and also makes 0 goddamn sense 15:10:23 yeah it's backwards 15:10:35 but I guess it has to be so that you can have arbitrary strings to grep for 15:10:42 likewise !send 15:11:25 !send PleasingFungus arbitrary strings 15:11:25 Sending arbitrary strings to PleasingFungus. 15:11:27 aw ok capitals 15:11:37 wheals: an SA person suggested adding resist chance indicators to monster spells (the player's chance of resisting them). how feasible does that sound? 15:11:52 I do miss having a nice army to summon as a primary elementalist 15:11:59 that is, when xving monsters and looking at their spells 15:12:11 sounds possible 15:12:22 i guess the player knows their own MR now exactly? 15:13:14 -!- rockygargoyle has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:14:03 -!- Zermako_ has quit [] 15:14:20 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 15:14:26 yeah - it's not displayed, but it's calculatable 15:15:03 !recalculate PleasingFungus 15:16:16 any plans for having qazlal make elementals? 15:16:46 ??elemental force 15:16:46 elemental force[1/2]: Qazlal's 3* ability. Spawns friendly elementals from your clouds, hostile elementals from clouds created by monsters and neutral elementals from other clouds. Higher invo gives more elementals. 15:16:51 ^ 15:17:36 no one remembers that ability 15:17:39 I wonder if the duration is too shor 15:17:41 t 15:18:00 I've seen people using it. 15:18:08 tengu bad at invo 15:18:27 !lg * te q sk=invocations sklev=27 15:18:27 No games for * (te q sk=invocations sklev=27). 15:18:28 very occasionally 15:18:28 thank you for that tidbit 15:18:29 idk 15:18:33 the only higher power need is 15:18:36 er 15:18:41 the only higher power the tengu need is 15:18:41 * PleasingFungus shrugs. 15:18:42 Sojobo. 15:18:46 <_< 15:19:04 need a sojobo vault like there are enchantress vaults 15:19:04 fr give tengu innate ctele 15:19:14 ?? 15:19:18 hall of the tengu king 15:19:25 now if only crawl had cameras 15:19:32 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 15:19:35 wheals: only if they also have innate teleportitis 15:20:28 !tin PleasingFungus 15:20:45 wheals: don't choke.... 15:21:02 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 15:21:34 such bizarre phrasing, "lichen corpse" 15:22:23 New portal vault: Sojobo's aerie 15:22:37 sounds like a wizlab 15:23:34 no wizlabs themed on extant uniques, and that's final 15:24:10 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:24:12 (uniques _in_ portal vaults are fine though, where's depths baileys with sojobo) 15:25:15 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 15:25:47 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 15:26:01 -!- ate675309 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:26:36 depths baileys...!? 15:26:58 what kind of monster sets would we get <_< 15:27:07 could extend elf bailies to start with... 15:28:49 just like normal baileys, but replace "orc" with "orc warlord" and go from there 15:29:04 3 Saint Roka comes into view. 15:29:37 -!- muravey has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:30:20 tengu reavers, vaults wardens, yaktaur captains, ancient champions 15:30:49 deep elf masterfoo 15:34:42 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 15:35:03 03Grunt02 07* 0.16-a0-3246-g12054e0: Don't store a reference to a function pointer. 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=12054e05c572 15:40:44 Lasty: weird, I can't reproduce the issue locally 15:41:10 maybe that change fixed it? 15:41:55 03Grunt02 07[no_backtracking_god] * 0.16-a0-3268-g31c7306: Merge branch 'master' into no_backtracking_god 10(7 minutes ago, 0 files, 0+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=31c73066de48 15:43:30 -!- pwnmonkey has joined ##crawl-dev 15:43:46 -!- somebody has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 15:47:05 -!- Calisca has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 15:53:32 Experimental (no_backtracking_god) branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.16-a0-3268-g31c7306 15:54:59 -!- AreBrandon has joined ##crawl-dev 15:59:38 -!- weezeface_ has quit [Client Quit] 16:02:18 SifMuna 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9356 by Phillip 16:03:15 Grunt: that woulld be excited 16:03:17 that's almost certainly my fault 16:03:18 exciting 16:05:17 PleasingFungus: rip. 16:05:49 maybe I'll fix it at some point 16:05:52 I'm having a hard time caring 16:06:05 so an earlier discussion gave me an Evil Idea. 16:06:12 update on displaying monster spell fail chances: wtf @ confuse gaze 16:06:15 rough work in progress: http://sprunge.us/JegC 16:06:31 PleasingFungus: Confusion Gaze gazes at you. You are confused. 16:06:53 ooo, maintain range 16:07:09 people love those 16:07:23 Game crashes on casting Apportation 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9357 by Zyrnak 16:08:52 wow right now they can reliably kill Hell Sentinels 16:09:01 I should tone down the 1 in 4 chance 16:10:00 rather bland flavour 16:10:06 * theTower shrugs 16:10:18 It could use improvement, yes >_> 16:10:22 that is why it is a rough work in progress 16:12:53 wow even if I make it 17 and not instant it still goes 83-16 16:13:01 against a Hell Sentinel 16:13:21 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 16:13:27 -!- muravey has joined ##crawl-dev 16:13:33 some people would note the limitations of arena in judging actual monster effectiveness 16:13:41 yes, yes, yes :b 16:13:44 a hell sentinel won't prioritize summoners 16:13:56 wow this can even occasionally kill Cerebov under the circumstances 16:14:28 it even killed Lom once, and Lom is pretty much all area all the time 16:14:31 how's this monster work? 16:14:54 firstly, here's the adjusted spell set: http://sprunge.us/KCJV 16:15:20 Lasty: it stays away from you and sends buffed greater demons at you 16:15:57 yikes 16:16:10 sounds scary 16:19:59 -!- flowsnake has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:20:19 -!- flowsnake has joined ##crawl-dev 16:21:03 -!- tabstorm has joined ##crawl-dev 16:22:58 darkli (L16 OpIE) ASSERT(_valid()) in 'ray.cc' at line 107 failed. (Orc:3) 16:23:11 darkli (L16 OpIE) ASSERT(_valid()) in 'ray.cc' at line 107 failed. (Orc:3) 16:23:36 darkli (L16 OpIE) ASSERT(_valid()) in 'ray.cc' at line 107 failed. (Orc:3) 16:23:59 darkli (L16 OpIE) ASSERT(_valid()) in 'ray.cc' at line 107 failed. (Orc:3) 16:24:23 darkli (L16 OpIE) ASSERT(_valid()) in 'ray.cc' at line 107 failed. (Orc:3) 16:24:36 darkli (L16 OpIE) ASSERT(_valid()) in 'ray.cc' at line 107 failed. (Orc:3) 16:24:37 Lasty: starting up again 16:25:02 darkli (L16 OpIE) ASSERT(_valid()) in 'ray.cc' at line 107 failed. (Orc:3) 16:25:05 Grunt: when i saw the name i thought you had revived moths of nihilism 16:25:19 darkli (L16 OpIE) ASSERT(_valid()) in 'ray.cc' at line 107 failed. (Orc:3) 16:25:30 s/thought/hoped >_> 16:25:33 darkli (L16 OpIE) ASSERT(_valid()) in 'ray.cc' at line 107 failed. (Orc:3) 16:26:53 !crashlog darkli 16:26:54 42. darkli, XL16 OpIE, T:30363 (milestone): http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/darkli/crash-darkli-20141221-222526.txt 16:27:18 fr: force transfers of saved games 16:27:43 |amethyst probably could 16:30:34 darkli (L16 OpIE) ASSERT(_valid()) in 'ray.cc' at line 107 failed. (Elf:2) 16:34:05 Grunt: You MONSTER 16:34:52 (the sad thing is that only robust 1 came from the crash-scumming, all 9 of my other mutations were just luck) 16:36:22 darkli (L16 OpIE) ASSERT(_valid()) in 'ray.cc' at line 107 failed. (Elf:2) 16:36:24 (excuse me while I crash-scum more) 16:36:40 darkli (L16 OpIE) ASSERT(_valid()) in 'ray.cc' at line 107 failed. (Elf:2) 16:37:04 darkli (L16 OpIE) ASSERT(_valid()) in 'ray.cc' at line 107 failed. (Elf:2) 16:37:08 oh 16:37:10 this is a good copy-paste bug 16:37:19 !source mon-cast.cc:3193 16:37:19 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/mon-cast.cc;hb=HEAD#l3193 16:37:27 hm, right, wrong line 16:37:27 darkli (L16 OpIE) ASSERT(_valid()) in 'ray.cc' at line 107 failed. (Elf:2) 16:37:37 !source mon-cast.cc:3153 16:37:37 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/mon-cast.cc;hb=HEAD#l3153 16:37:40 darkli (L16 OpIE) ASSERT(_valid()) in 'ray.cc' at line 107 failed. (Elf:2) 16:37:53 darkli (L16 OpIE) ASSERT(_valid()) in 'ray.cc' at line 107 failed. (Elf:2) 16:38:01 darkli (L16 OpIE) ASSERT(_valid()) in 'ray.cc' at line 107 failed. (Elf:2) 16:38:12 darkli (L16 OpIE) ASSERT(_valid()) in 'ray.cc' at line 107 failed. (Elf:2) 16:38:36 darkli (L16 OpIE) ASSERT(_valid()) in 'ray.cc' at line 107 failed. (Elf:2) 16:38:43 -!- heteroy has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 16:38:52 darkli (L16 OpIE) ASSERT(_valid()) in 'ray.cc' at line 107 failed. (Elf:2) 16:39:08 darkli (L16 OpIE) ASSERT(_valid()) in 'ray.cc' at line 107 failed. (Elf:2) 16:39:17 hrm 16:39:18 ok before I spam this channel even more with my crash-scumming, is there a cap to mutations 16:39:22 yes 16:39:29 ??mutation cap 16:39:29 I don't have a page labeled mutation_cap in my learndb. 16:39:31 ??mutation 16:39:32 mutation[1/2]: A semi-permanent change in your body. Can be good or bad. Mutations may be removed by a potion of cure mutation or the intervention of certain gods. 16:39:34 ??mutation [2] 16:39:35 mutation[2/2]: When being mutated (not by a god or potion of beneficial mutation), you have a (current mutations)/15 chance of: (2/3 of the time): cancel the mutation, (1/3 of the time): remove a random mutation. This means your weirdness list is limited to about 20-24 lines; sorry, you can't have every non-exclusive mutation in the game. 16:39:42 iirc it's about 15 16:39:44 yeah 16:39:59 ok so not yet :v 16:40:00 Grunt: you were the one who implemented monster conjure flame, right? is there a reason its range has half spellpower? 16:40:25 most monster spells use 12 * hd for power, but the conjure flame monster targeter uses 6 * hd 16:40:40 "most monster spells use 12 * hd for power" 16:40:43 that statement is inaccurate. 16:40:45 darkli (L16 OpIE) ASSERT(_valid()) in 'ray.cc' at line 107 failed. (Elf:2) 16:40:56 mm? 16:41:00 I'm rewriting that code right now 16:41:05 but I have seen very few counterexamples 16:41:25 eh. I guess there's like 16:41:26 ozo's 16:41:48 heh, both ozos', actually 16:41:51 -!- muravey has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 16:42:09 -!- were has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:42:12 darkli (L16 OpIE) ASSERT(_valid()) in 'ray.cc' at line 107 failed. (Elf:3) 16:42:19 anyway, 12 is the default and I am still convinced that most monster spells use it 16:42:28 Anyway, iirc the reason was that the duration was absurdly long w/o it 16:42:30 o 16:42:34 hm 16:42:41 ok 16:42:43 -!- Kintak has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 16:43:15 I just spotted that it uses that for both power & range 16:43:17 so that's fine 16:45:06 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:50:42 -!- nicolae- has joined ##crawl-dev 16:51:28 Grunt: Wuln thoughts so far? 16:51:32 it'd be nice if that was handled more consistently 16:51:46 Lasty: it's basically "you can't go back to your stash" in god form <_< 16:51:53 i think most other spells keep 12*hd for the power, and then just adjust within the spell code itself what power actually means 16:52:01 based on whether a monster is casting it or not 16:52:23 doy: I think that is what PleasingFungus is working on? 16:52:33 correct. 16:52:39 well. sort of as a prerequisite for another porject 16:52:40 ah, nice 16:52:41 *project 16:52:42 what. 16:52:44 beam.cc cleanup. 16:52:45 er 16:52:48 nope 16:52:49 mon-cast.cc cleanup, rather. 16:52:50 mon-cast.cc cleanup 16:52:52 yeah 16:53:08 !send clean up beam.cc PleasingFungus 16:53:08 Sending PleasingFungus to clean up beam.cc. 16:53:08 nooo 16:53:11 darkli (L17 OpIE) ASSERT(_valid()) in 'ray.cc' at line 107 failed. (Elf:3) 16:53:14 you can't do this to me!!! 16:53:21 Grunt: Yeah, Wulndraste was "no stash: the god" 16:53:28 idk 16:53:33 I'd probably object more to no 'stache, the god 16:53:38 Grunt: yeah. I'm not sure it adds up to fun. 16:53:40 I thought it was "no stairdancing: the god" 16:53:51 PleasingFungus: not especially, in practice :) 16:53:53 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 16:53:53 I sometimes could stairdance 16:54:11 rip 16:54:12 PleasingFungus: I guess, for context, I can regularly pull off what was once called the V:$ challenge 16:54:15 which was 16:54:23 to enter V:$ and not leave until you have cleared the level and have the rune. 16:54:46 In other words, I generally know how to not stairdance :) 16:55:02 and...? 16:55:10 no 'stache, the god... the god of damage shaving, then 16:55:35 yeah i get the impression that if you're good enough to not need stairdancing then wuln's conduct is kind of "eh" 16:55:47 nicolae-: like I said, it's "you can't stash" god 16:56:05 as opposed to the other "you can't stash" god, Jiyva 16:56:09 Grunt: To be fair, we did both do FS melee 16:56:11 nicolae-: i suggested it become the god of diving 16:56:12 er vs 16:56:17 make another god whose conduct is everything you drop vanishes 16:56:28 nicolae-: we have that. It's called Jiyva. :b 16:56:37 Grunt: Back when D:27 was still a thing, I once went there before touching lair 16:57:00 -!- Amy is now known as Guest49614 16:57:08 also my one problem with wulndraste was I kind of never used his abilities once :v 16:57:20 I used him as "robust 3 on a goddamn troll + even more regen" 16:57:20 PleasingFungus: are you going to remove the huge switch in setup_mons_cast 16:57:30 Lightli: the ** is really strong 16:57:31 Lasty: mind if I try figuring out that teleport destination thing? 16:57:42 Grunt: not at all! 16:57:43 wheals: that sounds ambitious 16:57:44 It probably is, I just never had the chance to use it 16:57:57 wait, do people really still stash 16:57:59 why 16:58:13 PleasingFungus: i looked and the 'default' (stuff handled in mons_spell_beam) is almost all SPFLAG_NEEDS_TRACER 16:58:13 if that's useful 16:58:28 I'm doing a separate thing 16:58:39 -!- Sonata has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 16:59:01 *especially* now that weight limits are gone 16:59:12 there's no reason at all to not just carry everything you need with you everywhere 16:59:27 doy: "everything you want to carry with you" is more than 52 items :) 16:59:31 (for me, frequently) 16:59:35 (because I'm compulsive like that) 16:59:47 about the only exception to that for me is enchant weapon/armour scrolls 16:59:50 -!- were has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:00:37 you really don't need more than 52 items 17:00:38 (: 17:02:35 darkli (L17 OpIE) ASSERT(_valid()) in 'ray.cc' at line 107 failed. (Snake:2) 17:03:22 Grunt: I was wrong 17:03:35 I apologize 17:04:07 -!- siepu has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:04:51 PleasingFungus: you're starting to find all the weird special cases now, I bet :( 17:04:54 rip 17:05:07 darkli (L18 OpIE) ASSERT(_valid()) in 'ray.cc' at line 107 failed. (Snake:2) 17:08:23 -!- CcS has quit [] 17:09:09 darkli (L17 OpIE) ASSERT(_valid()) in 'ray.cc' at line 107 failed. (Snake:2) 17:14:59 hrm 17:15:44 Ice Fiend (161) | Spd: 10 | HD: 18 | HP: 78-115 | AC/EV: 15/6 | Dam: 2509(claw)12(cold:18-53), 2509(claw)12(cold:18-53) | 05demonic, 10doors, evil, see invisible, fly | Res: 13magic(immune), 12cold+++, 03poison, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 04fire, 08holy++ | XP: 2892 | Sp: b.cold (3d27) [06!sil], s.torment [06!sil] | Sz: Large | Int: high. 17:15:44 %??ice fiend 17:15:45 -!- caricature has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 17:16:33 oh I had a random idea 17:16:53 give balrugs a small chance of casting Hellfire instead of Fireball 17:17:02 (i.e. they have both at reduced weight) 17:17:09 Why? 17:17:15 darkli (L18 OpIE) ASSERT(_valid()) in 'ray.cc' at line 107 failed. (IceCv) 17:17:19 doy: well, jellies can still destroy items on the ground in most places, so it remains optimal to stash things if you're going to want to pick them up later, and that certainly happens with strategic consumables etc 17:17:26 They've never felt especially threatening in comparison to, say, hellions. 17:17:37 Alternatively, make them smite more <_< >_> 17:17:45 !lg . pan 17:17:46 1. PleasingFungus the Annihilator (L27 HuAM of Kikubaaqudgha), blasted by a Balrug (divine providence) in Pandemonium (cerebov) on 2014-04-21 20:40:19, with 1001311 points after 108426 turns and 13:33:07. 17:17:47 solution 17:17:47 minmay: that depends on a very specific definition of the word "optimal" 17:17:48 HELLSMITE 17:17:53 (granted most of my characters fighting demons are overpowered for that purpose) 17:17:56 doy: optimal for winning the game 17:18:04 i don't believe that is necessarily true 17:18:08 Grunt: there are 2s other than hellions that feel especially threatening compared to hellions? 17:18:25 or if it is, it is marginal enough to not be distinguishable from random noise 17:18:48 doy: it benefits your character (you get more items) and has no drawback; I don't see how it is not optimal for winning 17:19:04 i have never tried to go back to a scroll and found it to not be there 17:19:42 doy: I have 17:19:51 so while it is technically a possibility, the chances of that happening, and the downside (the loss of a single point of ac?) makes it indistinguishable from noise in terms of your win chance 17:19:52 (also, that's anecdotal) 17:19:53 so i don't care 17:20:02 darkli (L18 OpIE) ASSERT(_valid()) in 'ray.cc' at line 107 failed. (Snake:3) 17:20:32 doy: you asked why people still stashed and I told you 17:21:56 darkli (L18 OpIE) ASSERT(_valid()) in 'ray.cc' at line 107 failed. (Snake:3) 17:22:08 darkli (L18 OpIE) ASSERT(_valid()) in 'ray.cc' at line 107 failed. (Snake:3) 17:22:14 i feel like people would stash less if other people would stop telling them that stashing is optimal 17:22:17 d: 17:22:28 darkli (L18 OpIE) ASSERT(_valid()) in 'ray.cc' at line 107 failed. (Snake:3) 17:22:41 darkli (L18 OpIE) ASSERT(_valid()) in 'ray.cc' at line 107 failed. (Snake:3) 17:22:45 <_miek> maybe tormentors compare to hellions? 17:22:54 darkli (L18 OpIE) ASSERT(_valid()) in 'ray.cc' at line 107 failed. (Snake:3) 17:22:56 <_miek> probably the closest at least 17:22:59 torment sucks for the first 2-3 17:23:04 but after that it's more of a wasted turn 17:23:17 darkli (L18 OpIE) ASSERT(_valid()) in 'ray.cc' at line 107 failed. (Snake:3) 17:23:28 <_miek> true 17:23:38 darkli (L18 OpIE) ASSERT(_valid()) in 'ray.cc' at line 107 failed. (Snake:3) 17:24:02 darkli (L18 OpIE) ASSERT(_valid()) in 'ray.cc' at line 107 failed. (Snake:3) 17:24:14 darkli (L18 OpIE) ASSERT(_valid()) in 'ray.cc' at line 107 failed. (Snake:3) 17:24:30 darkli (L18 OpIE) ASSERT(_valid()) in 'ray.cc' at line 107 failed. (Snake:3) 17:24:34 <_miek> balrugs are much more common than hellions right? 17:24:44 darkli (L18 OpIE) ASSERT(_valid()) in 'ray.cc' at line 107 failed. (Snake:3) 17:24:48 somewhat maybe? 17:25:24 !lg * recent cikiller~=shadow_demon|green_death|blizzard_demon|balrug|cacodemon|hell_beast|hellion|reaper|lorocyproca|tormentor s=cikiller 17:25:25 Broken query near '~=shadow_demon|green_death|blizzard_demon|balrug|cacodemon|hell_beast|hellion|reaper|lorocyproca|tormentor s=cikiller' 17:25:35 !lg * recent cikiller=~shadow_demon|green_death|blizzard_demon|balrug|cacodemon|hell_beast|hellion|reaper|lorocyproca|tormentor s=cikiller 17:25:35 No games for * (recent cikiller=~shadow_demon|green_death|blizzard_demon|balrug|cacodemon|hell_beast|hellion|reaper|lorocyproca|tormentor). 17:25:42 !lg * recent cikiller~~shadow_demon|green_death|blizzard_demon|balrug|cacodemon|hell_beast|hellion|reaper|lorocyproca|tormentor s=cikiller 17:25:46 1136 games for * (recent cikiller~~shadow_demon|green_death|blizzard_demon|balrug|cacodemon|hell_beast|hellion|reaper|lorocyproca|tormentor): 277x a balrug, 260x a hellion, 145x a blizzard demon, 114x a lorocyproca, 108x a green death, 93x a reaper, 69x a cacodemon, 31x a shadow demon, 25x a tormentor, 9x a hell beast, 3x a blizzard demon (illusionary), a tormentor (illusionary), a reaper (illusio... 17:26:00 mana viper (06S) | Spd: 14 | HD: 9 | HP: 37-62 | AC/EV: 3/14 | Dam: 2312(antimagic) | cold-blooded, see invisible | Res: 13magic(immune), 03poison, 08blind | XP: 578 | Sz: Medium | Int: reptile. 17:26:00 %??mana viper 17:26:24 i guess that's not particularly fair to tormentors, but still 17:27:27 Unstable branch on crawl.lantea.net updated to: 0.16-a0-3246-g12054e0 (34) 17:27:29 afaict the reason people stash is so you can stand in one spot and press , to see every useful thing in your game 17:27:35 i honestly think fewer monsters should have hellfire/torment, not more 17:27:53 similarly for M and every spell 17:29:10 "ignores ac and ev" is kind of a lazy mechanic 17:29:29 <|amethyst> someone did a UI for browsing all available spells 17:29:39 <|amethyst> but it was very slow because it had to scan all the levels each time 17:29:44 <|amethyst> it's on mantis somewhere 17:30:16 <|amethyst> adding ctrl-f dropped might help with the , thing 17:30:24 that sounds like something that could be fixed pretty easily by caching 17:30:30 for some value of "easily" 17:30:52 -!- tabstorm has joined ##crawl-dev 17:31:00 <|amethyst> doy: yeah, but caching means invalidation and that's the hard part :) 17:31:28 darkli (L18 OpIE) ASSERT(_valid()) in 'ray.cc' at line 107 failed. (Snake:4) 17:31:49 <|amethyst> I do think the jelly thing, however theoretical it might be, does influence players to stash 17:31:50 even just "have you visited this level since the last check" would likely be sufficient 17:32:13 well there's one way to ignore AC/EV 17:32:23 and that's having a very strong melee monster 17:32:29 perhaps with a threatening name 17:32:33 and with loads of attacks 17:32:35 hmm.... 17:32:42 <|amethyst> I'm not sure how to make jelly eating relevant at all without that, though 17:33:16 <|amethyst> could make it ignore dropped/thrown items, but then they wouldn't eat ammo 17:33:20 Lasty: I've hit on an alternate and very simple way to adjust Change of Scenery in the fashion I was describing 17:33:25 going to test it and then push it 17:33:25 <|amethyst> and you wouldn't want to distinguish between dropped and thrown 17:33:51 Bloaxzorro: not sure what point you're trying to make 17:33:55 <|amethyst> also, that encourages you to pick up then drop things like enchant scrolls that you don't need right now 17:33:59 Executioner (151) | Spd: 20 | HD: 12 | HP: 53-81 | AC/EV: 10/15 | Dam: 30, 10, 10 | 05demonic, 10doors, fighter, evil, see invisible | Res: 06magic(140), 05fire, 02cold, 10elec, 03poison, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 2200 | Sp: pain (d14) [06!sil], haste [06!sil] | Sz: Large | Int: high. 17:33:59 %??executioner 17:34:02 Hmmmmmmmm 17:34:36 -!- pwnmonkey has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:35:10 -!- Zooty has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:35:43 well, executioners are rarely relevant unless you run into them early though 17:35:57 03|amethyst02 07* 0.16-a0-3247-g3d9c11f: Don't use game RNG state for elemental colours. 10(9 minutes ago, 2 files, 13+ 8-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=3d9c11fef37d 17:36:00 well yes, they aren't relevant in extended 17:36:05 but what if.. 17:36:07 they were? 17:36:11 hm 17:36:15 darkli (L19 OpIE) ASSERT(_valid()) in 'ray.cc' at line 107 failed. (Snake:5) 17:36:25 does polymorphing aboms still use random2 for the tile 17:36:30 maybe 17:36:35 darkli (L19 OpIE) ASSERT(_valid()) in 'ray.cc' at line 107 failed. (Snake:5) 17:36:37 probably 17:36:40 quick question in regards to the mutation limit 17:37:04 does it count upgrades of previous mutations (like does MR 2 count for 1 mutation or 2) or only separate mutations (MR 1 and MR 2 both count for only 1) 17:37:12 wow 17:37:17 Lightli are you crash scumming again 17:37:18 the latter, iirc 17:37:19 Bloaxzorro: do you have an actual proposal? 17:37:20 darkli (L19 OpIE) ASSERT(_valid()) in 'ray.cc' at line 107 failed. (Snake:5) 17:37:20 I've just realised that the bit of code I'm looking at is completely broken. 17:37:22 minmay: yes 17:37:25 ... 17:37:30 fuck me, I was joking... 17:37:34 rip 17:37:35 <|amethyst> buffing executioners affects Makhleb and SGD too 17:37:37 hm, monsters calculate the power of SPELL_PAIN in two separate ways 17:37:51 minmay: No, I don't know why either 17:37:59 code duplication in crawl ????? 17:38:00 it's either 24 * HD or min(50, 8 * HD) 17:38:02 darkli (L19 OpIE) ASSERT(_valid()) in 'ray.cc' at line 107 failed. (Snake:5) 17:38:06 those are different numbers. 17:38:13 darkli (L19 OpIE) ASSERT(_valid()) in 'ray.cc' at line 107 failed. (Snake:5) 17:38:25 darkli (L19 OpIE) ASSERT(_valid()) in 'ray.cc' at line 107 failed. (Snake:5) 17:38:35 darkli (L19 OpIE) ASSERT(_valid()) in 'ray.cc' at line 107 failed. (Snake:5) 17:38:40 maybe executioners could be pack monsters(: 17:38:45 darkli (L19 OpIE) ASSERT(_valid()) in 'ray.cc' at line 107 failed. (Snake:5) 17:38:47 wheals: a misleading crawl code entry ????? 17:38:56 Executioner (151) | Spd: 20 | HD: 12 | HP: 53-81 | AC/EV: 10/15 | Dam: 30, 10, 10 | 05demonic, 10doors, fighter, evil, see invisible | Res: 06magic(140), 05fire, 02cold, 10elec, 03poison, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 2200 | Sp: pain (d14) [06!sil], haste [06!sil] | Sz: Large | Int: high. 17:38:56 %??executioner 17:38:56 <|amethyst> wheals: I think that use of random2 is fine 17:38:59 good xp 17:39:04 darkli (L19 OpIE) ASSERT(_valid()) in 'ray.cc' at line 107 failed. (Snake:5) 17:39:08 stone giant (15C) | Spd: 10 | HD: 16 | HP: 70-103 | AC/EV: 12/2 | Dam: 45 | 10items, 10doors | Res: 06magic(80), 12drown | XP: 1423 | Sz: Giant | Int: normal. 17:39:08 %??stone giant 17:39:10 |amethyst: the problem is that it's in USE_TILE 17:39:12 rip executioners 17:39:16 <|amethyst> wheals: aha 17:39:20 so tiles and console are desynced 17:39:48 what if they were 17:39:49 darkli (L19 OpIE) ASSERT(_valid()) in 'ray.cc' at line 107 failed. (Snake:5) 17:40:05 or af_summon_executioner 17:40:06 <|amethyst> wheals: yeah, I think they get desynced in a lot of places right now 17:40:07 darkli (L19 OpIE) ASSERT(_valid()) in 'ray.cc' at line 107 failed. (Snake:5) 17:40:07 (: 17:40:08 30 (pain), 30 (pain), 30 (vamp) 17:40:11 true 17:40:13 15 HD 17:40:22 and 110-170 hp 17:40:24 :^) 17:40:28 (oh and without a pain spell) 17:40:31 Bloaxzorro: the issue is that as allies, executioners are already quite powerful 17:40:42 and they are pretty common as allies 17:40:55 |amethyst: seems simple enough to fix that one 17:41:29 make them a high-invo summon? 17:41:35 30 (agony) 17:41:38 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: discard a random number in the #else ? 17:41:46 How many items can be on the floor at once? 17:41:55 <|amethyst> read: ~700 I think 17:41:57 I'm getting "too many items on the floor, not dropping this" very often. 17:42:03 Okay so I'm definitely not at the cap. 17:42:09 !send doy AF_SHADOW_CREATURES 17:42:10 Sending AF_SHADOW_CREATURES to doy. 17:42:32 Oh but I'm like 100 commits out of date, might be fixed in latest trunk. 17:42:36 <|amethyst> oh, sorry, 2000 17:42:43 Haha okay definitely not. 17:43:06 ??summon greater demon 17:43:06 summon greater demon[1/1]: Summons a 1 or 2, the mightiest classes of demonry. Chance of summoning a hostile demon is 6/power. Even if originally friendly, a 1 summoned by this spell will turn hostile shortly before timing out. Level 7. 17:43:12 does this really still exist 17:43:36 Lasty: alright, working as intended, here it comes 17:43:43 !title demonologist 17:43:44 demonologist: Summonings 21-26 17:43:55 |amethyst: can't we juse use ui_random...? 17:44:02 !locate read 17:44:02 read was last seen on CSZO (read, L1 OpIE of No God). 17:44:09 03Grunt02 07* 0.16-a0-3248-gabbeb15: Properly evaluate threats when considering where to revive a felid. 10(4 minutes ago, 1 file, 5+ 5-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=abbeb15d6ad6 17:44:10 03Grunt02 07[no_backtracking_god] * 0.16-a0-3271-g88cfe97: Merge branch 'master' into no_backtracking_god 10(3 minutes ago, 0 files, 0+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=88cfe97f0879 17:44:10 03Grunt02 07[no_backtracking_god] * 0.16-a0-3272-g378764d: (Ab)use bring_to_safety() for Wulndraste's Change of Scenery. 10(77 seconds ago, 1 file, 2+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=378764d6eec4 17:44:12 offline? 17:44:43 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: If we're sure that colour is never used in game state calculations 17:44:54 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: it is saved after all 17:44:57 that seems like it makes a kinda boring ability even more boring 17:44:58 it doesn't set colour 17:45:30 <|amethyst> err, sorry, the tile 17:45:44 yeah wheals 17:45:55 I am willing to make that assumption. 17:45:59 -!- tgcid has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:45:59 I just downloaded the latest trunk and I still get it, I'll put it on Mantis I guess. 17:46:00 read: so, where are you? 17:46:07 Offline. 17:46:10 If someone is using tiles for game state calculations, that is an error. 17:46:19 Grunt: nice! 17:46:30 and W seems sort of boring generally already to me? 17:46:30 which level of the offline branch? 17:46:40 have you gotten the offline rune yet? 17:46:43 :P 17:46:45 D:1 17:46:50 oh 17:46:53 To test I just dumped all the uniques with &,| 17:46:56 Grunt: update the ability desc to reflect the change/ 17:46:57 ? 17:46:58 *the unrands 17:47:03 But I've had it happen without wizmode. 17:47:44 did someone see "source/dat/des/variable/large_themed.des:1648: unknown monster: "1" x25" 17:47:48 it was pretty weird 17:48:01 %git HEAD^{/nknown mon} 17:48:01 07|amethyst02 * 0.16-a0-3237-ga5a3791: Fix kennysheep_goblin_castle boss choice (Bloax) 10(6 hours ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=a5a3791996e3 17:48:55 thanks GRUNT 17:49:53 <|amethyst> meh 17:50:05 |amethyst? 17:50:06 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:50:06 ??2 17:50:06 2[1/1]: The tier 2 demons. Summoned, along with {1}s, by {Summon Greater Demon}. They are: {balrug}, {blizzard demon}, {shadow demon}, {cacodemon}, {green death}, {hell beast}, {hellion}, {lorocyproca}, {reaper}, {tormentor}. 17:50:10 <|amethyst> see if I credit you again in a commit message :) 17:50:14 ha 17:50:15 darkli (L19 OpIE) ASSERT(_valid()) in 'ray.cc' at line 107 failed. (Snake:5) 17:50:26 <|amethyst> Grunt: thanks GRUNT 17:50:28 hm 17:50:37 hm? 17:50:43 ??hm 17:50:43 |amethyst[2/19]: <|amethyst> hm 17:50:49 darkli (L19 OpIE) ASSERT(_valid()) in 'ray.cc' at line 107 failed. (Snake:5) 17:50:50 hm?? 17:50:50 trying to decide what spellpower to give for monster summoning spells 17:50:50 <|amethyst> hm 17:50:57 1 * hd or 10 * hd or 12 * hd 17:51:01 darkli (L19 OpIE) ASSERT(_valid()) in 'ray.cc' at line 107 failed. (Snake:5) 17:51:07 PleasingFungus: imo 200 power all the time 17:51:07 <_< 17:51:18 I mean the options are 17:51:26 (1) don't use spellpower, directly reference spell_hd instead 17:51:27 darkli (L19 OpIE) ASSERT(_valid()) in 'ray.cc' at line 107 failed. (Snake:5) 17:51:48 which is simplest to eyeball when looking at the summon spell code, but does mean we don't have well-defined spellpower for some spells 17:51:51 darkli (L19 OpIE) ASSERT(_valid()) in 'ray.cc' at line 107 failed. (Snake:5) 17:51:55 (2) use 1 * HD 17:51:56 50 + hd*3 ? 17:52:03 darkli (L19 OpIE) ASSERT(_valid()) in 'ray.cc' at line 107 failed. (Snake:5) 17:52:18 second-simplest to eyeball, but a weird order-of-magnitude difference from most spellpower calculations 17:52:19 darkli (L19 OpIE) ASSERT(_valid()) in 'ray.cc' at line 107 failed. (Snake:5) 17:52:33 darkli (L19 OpIE) ASSERT(_valid()) in 'ray.cc' at line 107 failed. (Snake:5) 17:52:43 agh gotta go 17:52:44 will continue later 17:52:49 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91 [Firefox 34.0.5/20141126041045]] 17:52:49 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: what about summons that are both player and monster castable? 17:52:51 rip. 17:53:07 darkli (L19 OpIE) ASSERT(_valid()) in 'ray.cc' at line 107 failed. (Snake:5) 17:53:22 darkli (L19 OpIE) ASSERT(_valid()) in 'ray.cc' at line 107 failed. (Snake:5) 17:53:34 darkli (L19 OpIE) ASSERT(_valid()) in 'ray.cc' at line 107 failed. (Snake:5) 17:53:48 darkli (L19 OpIE) ASSERT(_valid()) in 'ray.cc' at line 107 failed. (Snake:5) 17:53:58 god damn it 17:54:15 darkli (L19 OpIE) ASSERT(_valid()) in 'ray.cc' at line 107 failed. (Snake:5) 17:54:22 False "Too many items on this level" warning. 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9358 by read 17:54:32 darkli (L19 OpIE) ASSERT(_valid()) in 'ray.cc' at line 107 failed. (Snake:5) 17:54:43 darkli (L19 OpIE) ASSERT(_valid()) in 'ray.cc' at line 107 failed. (Snake:5) 17:55:40 darkli (L19 OpIE) ASSERT(_valid()) in 'ray.cc' at line 107 failed. (Snake:5) 17:56:13 darkli (L19 OpIE) ASSERT(_valid()) in 'ray.cc' at line 107 failed. (Snake:5) 17:56:24 darkli (L19 OpIE) ASSERT(_valid()) in 'ray.cc' at line 107 failed. (Snake:5) 17:56:36 darkli (L19 OpIE) ASSERT(_valid()) in 'ray.cc' at line 107 failed. (Snake:5) 17:57:00 03|amethyst02 07* 0.16-a0-3249-g2f97a5a: Be careful with RNG state in a few more places (wheals) 10(10 minutes ago, 2 files, 8+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=2f97a5abf317 17:58:32 <|amethyst> hm 17:58:47 -!- tabstorm has joined ##crawl-dev 17:59:05 darkli (L19 OpIE) ASSERT(_valid()) in 'ray.cc' at line 107 failed. (Snake:5) 17:59:08 ok I think I'm done with mutation scumming 17:59:13 <|amethyst> the more I think about it, the more I think PF is right and I should just use ui_random there. If the tile number *did* influence the sequence of RNG calls... then it would desynch either way 17:59:25 and here I was just about to ask for a forced version update 17:59:35 <|amethyst> Lightli: oh, so I don't have to force transfer your save when this rebuild finishes? 17:59:45 no 17:59:51 force it anyway >_> 17:59:53 wait that's possible 17:59:59 of course it's possible. 18:00:26 <|amethyst> Lightli: I just have to move your save from crawl-git-gdeadbee/saves/ to crawl-latest/saves/ 18:00:36 k 18:00:40 (poor bee) 18:03:47 03|amethyst02 07* 0.16-a0-3250-g88dccf0: Just use ui_random (PleasingFungus) 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 7-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=88dccf0e586f 18:06:32 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.16-a0-3248-gabbeb15 (34) 18:08:09 rip bug 18:09:04 all bugs must die 18:10:41 ??crash scumming 18:10:42 I don't have a page labeled crash_scumming in my learndb. 18:14:00 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 18:17:45 You squash the bug like an ant!!!!!!! 18:20:05 ok that's the last time 18:20:07 darkli (L20 OpIE) ASSERT(_valid()) in 'ray.cc' at line 107 failed. (Shoals:3) 18:20:14 You open the goliath beetle like a mantis issue!!!! 18:25:54 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 18:34:40 -!- AlexMcc has quit [] 18:35:01 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:36:01 -!- heftig has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 18:41:45 -!- Aryth1 has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.0.4 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/] 18:42:54 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 18:49:11 -!- wheals has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:51:17 -!- nicolae- has left ##crawl-dev 18:55:15 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 18:56:30 Experimental (no_backtracking_god) branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.16-a0-3272-g378764d 18:57:59 -!- Piginabag has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:01:16 -!- Zooty has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:02:12 -!- freeCategory has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:05:28 considering if Just use ui_random would be a good clan name 19:10:44 ...that's the solution, how did I not think of it before 19:10:53 af_shadow_creatures all 19:10:58 mwahahahaha 19:13:58 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 19:15:00 !learn add reserved_clan_names AF_SHADOW_CREATURES [theTower] 19:15:00 reserved clan names[9/9]: AF_SHADOW_CREATURES [theTower] 19:15:15 dang. 19:15:16 not bad 19:15:35 walked into that 19:15:55 next up: AF_SHADOW_SHARD 19:16:05 AF_SHADOW_SHARD_SHRIKE 19:16:06 shadow shrike 19:16:10 gammafunk: hi. 19:16:17 Grunt: you're out of order! 19:17:08 neither of those are grey goo scenarios 19:17:51 grey goo, green goo, orange goo 19:18:28 red goo, yellow goo 19:18:35 river goo, hell goo, quokka goo 19:18:56 are there no rivers in the hells 19:19:18 ??deck_of_wonders 19:19:18 deck of wonders[1/2]: Cards: {potion card}, {focus card} (rare), {shuffle card} (very rare, not in plain decks), {experience card}, {wild magic card}, {helix card}, {sage card}, {trowel card} (rare, only in legendary decks). In 0.15, the card list is {focus card}, {helix card}, {shaft card}, {dowsing card}, {mercenary card}, and {alchemist card} 19:19:19 !source dat/des/branches/coc.des 19:19:19 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/dat/des/branches/coc.des;hb=HEAD 19:19:31 oh, is that woefully out of date? 19:19:37 oh yeah 19:19:48 ...huh 19:20:00 ??deck_of_wonders[2 19:20:00 deck of wonders[2/2]: It's strongly suggested to triple draw this deck to avoid shuffle and wild magic. You can also triple draw a couple of times then stack five to try and maximise the number of cards you get to use. 19:20:08 theTower: what about tar_minmay_river 19:20:46 which is a great end because, as I like to point out, it's probably the fan-favorite tar end and the vault author hates it and would like it removed 19:20:46 probably not the best place for either rat 19:20:58 well 19:21:05 given the quality of such gems like tar_old 19:22:20 to be fair, st_ did ruin it 19:22:28 ruin which? 19:22:32 with the whole "make it more of a maze bit" at the start 19:22:36 oh 19:22:49 theTower: well, do you know why said vault author hates that vault? 19:22:50 (I am using the word "ruin" pejoratively here) 19:22:52 it's not the maze 19:23:02 well, there's also the water 19:23:12 that's why he hates it 19:23:22 oh, what were there before all those c's and "'s there 19:23:37 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:23:39 it was just a buncha curly branches 19:24:07 clearly needs tar_dig_maze 19:24:28 then replace all open space in tar_old with tar_dig_maze 19:24:33 water is clearly bad between the interface of flight existing at all, movement-bound monsters, hell branch conceptual overlap, 19:24:34 nooooooooooo 19:25:04 also maybe I should give up on bees and just slap together some hell ends improvements before something as terrible as that 19:25:06 bbbbut spectral krakens! 19:25:26 -!- Lightli has joined ##crawl-dev 19:25:31 surely spectral krakens are for cocytus 19:25:49 no, those are kraken simulacra 19:25:51 the anti-water brigade doesn't like water more because of water gameplay, not so much flight existing, and while they do not like said water monsters, that's just a secondary issue for them 19:25:56 %git :/raken simulacr 19:25:58 07wheals02 * 0.15-a0-1705-g90b49e1: Don't allow infinite kraken simulacra. 10(6 months ago, 3 files, 16+ 6-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=90b49e12abda 19:26:03 rip <3 19:26:06 I do have to admit, it's hard to design good features for a roguelike 19:26:11 that aren't just walls, floor 19:26:36 water gameplay includes a non-infinite status you use to ignore it! 19:26:51 hey, if you want to get into an argument with crate about it 19:26:55 not very non-infinite 19:26:55 I would literally pay to see that 19:27:06 ??literally[literally pay 19:27:06 literally[5/12]: G-Flex: minqmay: i will literally pay you two to have this argument on tavern instead 19:27:10 lol 19:27:15 I would rather rip out my own tongue 19:27:16 wheals: good 19:27:21 then eat it 19:27:30 you haven't? 19:27:39 not yet 19:27:40 the thought of elliott moderating that is great 19:27:46 i thought that was part of the dev initiation ritual 19:27:54 no that's the tonsils 19:28:05 too bad, my only interaction with elliott was him pointing out that I'm an idiot 19:28:15 a truly great mind 19:28:23 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:28:25 I miss some of those old, ascerbic types 19:28:32 *acerbic 19:28:38 as opposed to our current, base types? 19:28:44 nostalgia 19:29:22 an empty and hollow value 19:29:30 dang 19:29:33 it really blew my mind to learn that monqy was mistermrmonkey from old mantis 19:29:43 was monqy a dev? 19:29:49 just shows what crawl development does to people 19:29:56 the name is familiar, but I don't recall any stories about him 19:29:58 no, he was an old acerbic type 19:29:59 kinda 19:30:13 I would have liked to seen 4.1qys 19:31:44 the idea of pan being a corrupted revisit of the rest of the game in an ironman context was pretty great already 19:32:35 would that make mnoleg bizzaro jessica 19:32:53 no 19:32:58 mnoleg is bizzaro yiuf 19:33:04 jessica is lom 19:33:21 terrence is gloorx 19:33:24 and sigmund is cerebov 19:34:01 someday gloorx will have the kills to be grinder. 19:34:09 well, if cerebov is a frog and gloorx is a death yak I would think the other two would continue to be animals, 19:34:16 no prob, just put Gloorx on d4. 19:34:17 so he'd be a newt or something 19:34:18 -!- nicolae- has joined ##crawl-dev 19:35:19 giant newt (03l) | Spd: 10 (swim: 60%) | HD: 1 | HP: 1-3 | AC/EV: 0/15 | Dam: 3 | amphibious, cold-blooded | Res: 12drown | Vul: 11silver | XP: 1 | Sp: sum.horrible things [06!sil] | Sz: tiny | Int: reptile. 19:35:19 %??giant newt spells:summon_horrible_things.100.demonic 19:35:23 hey nicolae- want to finish something 19:35:38 !lm * uniq=gloorx_vloq min=xl 19:35:39 6477. [2013-07-17 07:34:12] Spectrina the Martial Artist (L9 DrCK of Xom) killed Gloorx Vloq on turn 5416. (D:7) 19:35:55 good 19:36:04 !lm !spectrina uniq=gloorx_vloq min=xl 19:36:05 6467. [2013-02-26 19:34:00] jeanjacques the Severer (L16 DDBe of Trog) killed Gloorx Vloq on turn 6112. (Pan) 19:36:11 what kind of something 19:36:19 bees kind of something 19:36:21 !lm !spectrina uniq=mnoleg min=xl 19:36:22 6783. [2013-10-21 19:14:55] PARALYSIS the Fetichist (L16 DDCK of Jiyva) killed Mnoleg on turn 24060. (Pan) 19:36:32 bees, you say *scratches chin* go on 19:37:00 also, two special room ideas: hybrid humans (c, fauns, naga, merfolk, minotaur, etc.) and all giants 19:37:02 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:39:00 i read that as hydra humans 19:39:11 I remember ages ago having plans for a hybrids vault, but I never got past the sketching phase: there's certainly a ridiculous amount to work with for the theme, so it would be pretty usable 19:39:27 not very enthusiastic about giants though 19:39:41 -!- Fusha has quit [] 19:40:05 why not a chimera room 19:40:14 full of nasty, nasty chimeras 19:40:46 chimera (hellephant, ettin, wolf spider) (06H) | Spd: 15 | HD: 20 | HP: 142-195 | AC/EV: 13/10 | Dam: 4507(trample), 45, 25, 20 | Res: 06magic(80), 13neg+++ | Vul: 09poison, 11silver | XP: 3595 | Sp: fire breath (3d40) [11!AM, 06!sil, 08breath], blink [06!sil] | Sz: Giant | Int: animal. 19:40:46 %??hellephant-ettin-wolf spider chimera 19:40:50 nasty, nasty chimeras 19:41:09 aren't those still mostly nasty for the folks who have to debug them? >.> 19:41:57 -!- NotKintak has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:45:40 rip debuggers 19:46:39 -!- bonghitz_ has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 19:47:57 -!- asdu has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:48:46 hmmm. what monsters produce clouds in some way? cloud themed vault. er. sky beasts. chaos spawn. ???? 19:50:00 simulacra 19:50:11 *nods* good one. 19:50:25 grunt has an abyss exit that uses most of the cloud breath though so I'm not enthused 19:50:45 grunt, you'll pay for this *pounds fist into palm* 19:50:47 <|amethyst> I was going to say, drakes, crabs, catoblepae 19:50:51 anyway, here's the bees: http://sprunge.us/ddWL 19:51:24 well, for special rooms, it might be useful to have clouds that they're not going to breathe all over each other 19:51:43 oh, that use 19:52:08 yes, i should have mentioned i'm thinking of a cloud-based special room 19:52:13 I think the theme is way too disparate there, you'd be better off with introducing a cloud jerk into one of the current or future sets 19:53:12 gotcha 19:53:23 if you want something I would approve of, it'd be finishing that draft >_> 19:53:57 revenants 19:54:14 theTower: if i'm reading it correctly, it's just the last one that needs to be redone? 19:54:33 ushtabi? what's that Tomb enemy that shoots miasma/draining clouds at you? 19:54:47 brannock: you are correct in your name assoiciation 19:55:14 I really like the new Tomb enemies, although I don't think they made Tomb any more attractive to take on 19:55:32 nicolae-: third-last, second-last needs randomization in the nature of the randomization of the other ends 19:56:17 yes, it is kind of sad that in trying to maintain the threats of the guardian mummy without making it a curse bomb there is still plenty of hostile debilitation left >_> 19:56:29 at least there's less statdrain? 19:57:22 alright, i'll have a look, i can't guarantee results soon on account of the holidays 19:57:47 I am actually rather free for the next few weeks, I'm just sick of the project 19:57:56 i know that feelin 19:58:24 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 20:01:25 special room with all basilisks and catoblepae, re: nethack's cocktrice nests 20:11:19 -!- edlothiol has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 20:12:26 -!- Zermako_ has quit [] 20:12:30 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:12:37 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:12:45 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:16:01 -!- rophy has quit [Quit: Miranda NG! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-ng.org/] 20:17:07 -!- ChongLi has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:17:08 -!- ChongLi_ is now known as ChongLi 20:24:09 -!- cr0ne has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:24:47 -!- AtomikKrab has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20:25:35 -!- alefury has quit [] 20:26:28 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 20:26:28 The build has errored. (master - 2f97a5a #1208 : Neil Moore): http://travis-ci.org/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/builds/44775626 20:26:28 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 20:27:00 The orc sorcerer points at you and mumbles some strange words! 20:27:00 The orc wizard suddenly stops moving!!! The orc suddenly stops moving!!! 20:27:01 _You resist with some effort! 20:27:08 Something's horribly wrong. 20:27:57 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:29:53 yeah 20:30:06 since when was paralysis a beam 20:34:16 since... always 20:34:25 it's not a penetrating beam though 20:35:03 er 20:35:07 it is right now, apparently! 20:35:43 it always has been *twilight zone sounds* 20:35:59 %dump darkli 20:35:59 http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/darkli/darkli.txt 20:37:50 Lasty: congratulations, we have successfully figured out how to trivialise V:5 20:40:17 -!- Crehl has quit [Quit: Killed by a kitten] 20:40:35 Haha, hooray! 20:40:54 Wulndraste: you can't stairdance, but you're so strong you don't care. 20:43:19 !learn add Wulndraste Wulndraste: you can't stairdance, but you're so strong you don't care. 20:43:20 wulndraste[5/5]: Wulndraste: you can't stairdance, but you're so strong you don't care. 20:47:28 Grunt: I take you Change of Scenery is pretty dang good right now 20:47:32 er I take it 20:47:46 %git wuldraste 20:47:48 Could not find commit wuldraste (git returned 128) 20:47:56 %git :/wuldraste 20:48:00 Could not find commit :/wuldraste (git returned 128) 20:49:36 since master is merged into experimentals, it's probably not easy to find just the commits for that experimental? (I'm trying to find a list of the recent no_backtracking_god commits) 20:50:05 -!- Guest49614 is now known as flappity 20:50:55 <|amethyst> git log master..origin/no_backtracking_god 20:51:25 hrm 20:51:33 how did I not know about that 20:51:34 :) 20:51:35 %git master..origin/no_backtracking_god 20:51:35 Could not find commit master..origin/no_backtracking_god (git returned 128) 20:52:28 -!- Ququman has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:53:13 -!- broquain1 is now known as broquaint 20:53:27 how does it work for e.g. slime, again? 20:53:40 if i enter lair, do any requirements for lair branches come into play 20:53:45 !tell ontoclasm Maybe use https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/63152810/n/crawl/batty.png as the batform tile, iunno. Someone pointed out that the current one sucks and I wholeheartedly agree. 20:53:46 Bloaxzorro: OK, I'll let ontoclasm know. 20:56:49 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 20:57:07 -!- Bloaxzorro is now known as Bloax 21:00:20 |amethyst: thanks! so is that just doing a sort of diff between the two branches? 21:01:03 <|amethyst> It means "any commit that is an ancestor of origin/no_backtracking_god that is not an ancestor of master" 21:01:41 hm. it only returned a handful of commits dated in Nov 21:02:07 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:02:10 <|amethyst> git fetch origin 21:02:12 have you updated origin/no_backtracking_god 21:02:18 -!- Calisca2 is now known as Calisca 21:04:49 -!- korzok has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 21:05:42 -!- korzok_ has quit [Client Quit] 21:06:53 nope. I didn't. my dbro repo gets recurring issues with file ownership that I have to chown out periodically. it looks ok now. thanks again 21:06:58 -!- nicolae- has left ##crawl-dev 21:08:38 -!- pikaro has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:13:57 -!- markgo has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 21:14:36 people keep testing W with VS, but that seems the oddest choice to me 21:14:42 Gr would make much more sense 21:14:53 Gr is boring :b 21:15:09 well VS is not really more fun for this kind of thing 21:16:08 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:16:29 gammafunk: so when are you going to play it SaFE 21:16:31 :) 21:16:36 sorry but 21:16:37 !lm . 21:16:38 11092. [2014-12-22 02:08:15] gammafunk the Summoner (L10 HESu of Sif Muna) entered the Swamp on turn 6702. (Lair:4) 21:16:40 this happened 21:16:41 rip. 21:16:55 actually you just need to bug neil to get it on cszo 21:16:58 then I would play it 21:17:05 !lg * recent won urune=3 s=crace x=avg(turn) o=-avg(turn) 21:17:06 3460 games for * (recent won urune=3): 183x Vine Stalker [64405.92], 154x Deep Dwarf [70240.48], 144x Troll [72806.06], 363x Minotaur [77100.39], 73x Ghoul [78166.14], 8x Lava Orc [79531.88], 179x Merfolk [80931.31], 166x Hill Orc [82770.89], 280x Gargoyle [82790.34], 218x Demonspawn [82791.48], 144x Formicid [83578.94], 130x Ogre [84256.85], 103x Naga [86191.93], 89x Halfling [89222.08], 136x Dra... 21:17:18 vs is already the "do things quickly" race 21:17:28 and w feels along those same lines 21:17:39 W feels very redundant for VS 21:17:42 that's exactly what I'm saying 21:18:06 well, "redundant" or "has synergy" 21:18:08 shrug 21:18:15 i have yet to play w, so 21:18:17 (: 21:18:40 I think the former really; I don't see what synergy there would be when VS has high regen already, and effectively has high HP if you're notusing a lot of mp 21:18:50 a VS mage perhaps would be more reasonable 21:19:10 but a VS mage has biting for mp 21:19:44 ah I knew it. gammafunk is anti-CBRO :P 21:19:54 oh I just like having an audience johnstein 21:20:02 I know most of the players on that server 21:20:06 and insult them regularl 21:20:07 y 21:20:30 thank trog cbro isn't busy or I'd be out of disk space already 21:20:59 johnstein: one of these days my adoring fans are going to crash cbro and you will be doomed 21:21:02 <_< >_> <_< >_> 21:21:07 fr: Trog the sysadmin youtube serial 21:21:25 SUDO KILL THEM ALL! 21:21:52 !source dat/des/branches/zot.des 21:21:53 Killed 21:21:53 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/dat/des/branches/zot.des;hb=HEAD 21:21:53 # 21:22:25 anyway I got to play with iron rod some more 21:22:34 # zot.des: The ultimate goal 21:22:35 I think what I should do is stepdown the pellet count 21:22:37 ah ok. # This is weird, but in Zot weirdness fits. (nrook) 21:22:46 !vault nrook_hot_tub 21:22:46 Couldn't find nrook_hot_tub in the Crawl source tree 21:22:50 !send johnstein Revenge of the oklobs!!! 21:22:50 Sending Revenge of the oklobs!!! to johnstein. 21:22:51 whatever 21:22:53 !vault nrook_zot_tub 21:22:53 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/dat/des/branches/zot.des;hb=HEAD#l926 21:23:42 ah, nrook silly "theme" that I actually like 21:23:46 didn't realize that was his 21:24:42 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 21:25:14 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:25:25 Are friendly wandering mushrooms meant to go hostile when caught in a giant spore blast from reproduction? 21:27:25 And then you still lose piety for killing them... something doesn't seem right 21:29:24 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 21:36:40 -!- Hosg has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 21:36:50 -!- Deviljho is now known as Monocled|Jho 21:39:25 -!- SANIC has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:50:15 -!- bullock has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:52:17 -!- SomeStupidGuy has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 21:53:09 how would i go about compiling a branch 21:55:19 git checkout 21:55:22 and then compile as normal 21:57:25 -!- weezefac_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:57:46 -!- Yllodra has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 22:00:19 -!- weezeface has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:00:28 hm I'm testing the iron rod locally and it 22:00:40 's actually extremely difficult to reproduce the feat I showed in iron rod[3] 22:01:51 -!- pwnmonkey has joined ##crawl-dev 22:02:02 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:05:18 -!- SANIC has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:05:20 -!- weezeface has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 22:05:30 ??iron rod[3 22:05:31 iron rod[3/3]: !lm sgrunt 9995 -tv:<3.0 22:06:40 oh 22:06:43 .crushed -tv 22:06:43 93. Caricature, XL18 FeEn, T:87503 requested for FooTV: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 22:07:04 erp 22:07:08 rip 22:07:23 have to download that one, I guess 22:08:14 haha 22:08:30 This TV does not get old. <3 22:09:39 is foo tv a crawl thing? or inherited from nethack? 22:09:56 -!- Calisca has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 22:09:58 Mainly a Crawl thing, though it's kind of inspired by nao's ttyrecs and SplatTV 22:10:00 -!- jeanjacques has quit [Quit: quit] 22:11:20 wow,that cat got annihilated 22:11:37 .crushed x=dam,tdam,mhp 22:11:46 93. [dam=35;tdam=35;mhp=72] Caricature the Maledictor (L18 FeEn of Dithmenos), mangled by an octopode crusher on Depths:5 on 2014-12-21 23:15:25, with 236477 points after 87503 turns and 7:18:05. 22:11:58 nope, just mangled 22:12:02 .crushed annihilated 22:12:03 No games for * (cv>0.14 ikiller=octopode_crusher annihilated). 22:12:07 heh 22:12:10 !kw annihilated 22:12:10 Keyword: annihilated => ktyp=mon hp<=-22 22:12:20 !lg * annihilated / vmsg~~annihilated 22:12:22 10225/10226 games for * (annihilated): N=10225/10226 (99.99%) 22:12:25 er 22:12:26 !? 22:12:32 !lg * annihilated vmsg!~~annihilated 22:12:36 1. serikanootto the Chiller (L5 OpIE of Kikubaaqudgha), on D:4 on 2014-05-06 10:10:21, with 383 points after 3783 turns and 0:10:49. 22:12:42 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 22:12:44 !lg * annihilated vmsg!~~annihilated -log 22:13:01 killed by " " 22:13:10 (nethack ghost) 22:13:15 ha. 22:13:26 rip sequel?? 22:13:29 !lg * annihilated vmsg!~~annihilated x=src 22:13:36 ping?? 22:13:46 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:14:03 must but Trog the sysadmin, raging 22:14:08 *must be 22:15:45 Lives: 0 Deaths: 6 22:16:49 -!- Ragnor has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 22:16:51 looks like I put that cat out of its misery tbh 22:16:54 would have been xl24 22:17:12 -!- Sequell has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 22:17:16 rip :( 22:17:22 annihilated! 22:17:47 Trog roars: Now a Sequell! 22:17:53 fr: Sequell tile 22:18:00 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Quit: Connection reset by pier.] 22:18:01 I guess that's just the strange machine tile 22:18:33 ha. 22:18:47 !lg * sa-- won 22:18:53 oh right, hehe 22:18:57 -!- Manslay[work] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:19:02 oh there's that page though 22:19:46 till the snark finds time to add the sources 22:19:47 johnstein: would you consider linking that tourney-experimental page you made on the cbro page near the experimental branches? 22:19:58 I can 22:20:01 also what is that url, since sequell is down 22:20:09 -!- Sequell has joined ##crawl-dev 22:20:10 http://lazy-life.ddo.jp:8080/morgue/serikanootto/morgue-serikanootto-20140506-101021.txt 22:20:12 ??cbro[4 22:20:12 cbro[4/4]: 0.16 experimental summary pages at: http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/experimentals/0.16/overview.html 22:20:13 wb sequell 22:20:18 Sequell: hi... 22:20:30 -!- st_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 22:20:30 huh 22:20:37 it was annihilation by ogre 22:20:46 I need to go through the HTML and remove references to the tourney 22:21:13 johnstein: yeah, ideally we'd have some way to take CAO scoring and... 22:21:14 hrm 22:21:17 !lg gammafunk annihilated 22:21:18 3. gammafunk the Summoner (L11 HESu of Sif Muna), annihilated by an Ice Fiend (summoned by the player character) on Shoals:1 on 2014-08-13 01:08:02, with 9611 points after 8859 turns and 1:07:10. 22:21:20 dang 22:21:25 oh 22:21:42 !lg * annihilated max=sdam x=sdam 22:21:43 10226. [sdam=326] timbw the Alchemist (L18 OgFi of Okawaru), annihilated by an eight-headed hydra simulacrum on Swamp:5 (swamp_icy) on 2013-08-19 06:42:05, with 190889 points after 57007 turns and 3:58:48. 22:21:44 <3 22:21:45 I don't know how to do CAO scoring. I'm only qualified to bastardize the tourney scripts 22:21:49 !lg * annihilated max=sdam x=sdam -2 22:21:50 10225/10226. [sdam=205] Serfuzz the Shatterer (L16 OgHu of Okawaru), annihilated by a six-headed hydra simulacrum on D:16 on 2012-03-01 18:05:32, with 105443 points after 45334 turns and 7:30:42. 22:21:54 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:21:55 oh, 8.8k on shoals:1? no thanks, you're welcome to kill me ice fiend 22:21:56 !lg * annihilated max=sdam x=sdam -3 22:21:57 10224/10226. [sdam=202] corvin the Acrobat (L21 MfBe of The Shining One), annihilated by a golden dragon simulacrum in IceCv (ice_cave_caverns_03) on 2014-06-22 23:45:11, with 296254 points after 65884 turns and 8:06:49. 22:22:06 !lg * annihilated max=sdam x=sdam -4 22:22:07 10223/10226. [sdam=200] HoboEater the Spry (L20 OpTm of Nemelex Xobeh), annihilated by an eight-headed hydra simulacrum on Swamp:5 (swamp_icy) on 2014-05-11 09:43:05, with 270221 points after 72126 turns and 10:23:22. 22:22:09 !lg * annihilated max=sdam x=sdam -5 22:22:10 10222/10226. [sdam=176] popsofctown the Black Belt (L13 DrMo), annihilated by an azure jelly on Lair:7 (slime_altar_2) on 2014-02-13 13:43:12, with 35369 points after 27522 turns and 5:54:18. 22:22:25 I am noticing a trend 22:22:25 <3 22:22:55 johnstein: yeah, it might be nice to have a cao scoring breakdown for experimental 22:23:03 most of the banner stuff is not really meaningful 22:23:19 too bad cao scoring is very brittle these days 22:25:56 apparently wheals ghosts are the top gkillers on cbro experimental 22:26:34 I mainly use the tourney scripts for tracking MFC player during intra-tourney periods. http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/mfcwc/0.15/all-players.html 22:26:44 we have custom challenge banners 22:27:19 yeah for this the tourney script is probably good enough; I think running cao scoring would not be very different for you maybe, but this is nice to have 22:28:08 oh, er 22:28:30 ok, I just got confused, we're good 22:28:54 Grunt: I take it you saw http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/morgue/wheals/morgue-wheals-20141113-205546.txt 22:28:57 I've never looked for the CAO scoring scripts 22:29:05 gammafunk: yes 22:29:31 johnstein: the tourney script are based on them, I think 22:29:31 ...arte QDA 22:29:53 Grunt: holy crap 22:29:58 Grunt: he had friggin' lightning scales 22:30:35 gammafunk: lightning scales!!! 22:30:37 !tell wheals HOW DID YOU DIE AS SA WITH LIGHTNING SCALES 22:30:38 gammafunk: OK, I'll let wheals know. 22:30:55 I mean, it's not *as* big a deal for Sa as it is for Na, but 22:31:51 ...+2 triple sword of holy wrath...I'm going to stop reading this 22:31:53 I'm getting upset 22:31:58 -!- Tolias has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:32:22 gammafunk: imo channel your anger into your gameplay 22:32:23 <3 22:32:51 I should channel it into my two branches here, which I will! 22:32:52 -!- Sprort has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:33:04 good 22:35:15 -!- weezefac_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 22:36:25 [04:55:19] git checkout 22:36:26 thanks 22:38:29 -!- Cryp71c has quit [Disconnected by services] 22:38:46 -!- Cryp71c has joined ##crawl-dev 22:39:16 -!- Cryp71c has quit [Disconnected by services] 22:39:33 -!- Cryp71c_ has joined ##crawl-dev 22:40:16 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 22:40:54 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 22:41:11 -!- weezeface has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:47:08 Are people still open to a change to reaching 22:47:17 what kind of a change? 22:47:36 not an active VaVaVaVaVa thing 22:47:47 but instead something like "You get a free attack when an opponent moves next to you" 22:48:15 that sounds quite hard to make work sanely 22:48:21 Why 22:48:27 Code issues? 22:48:55 no, interface issues 22:49:04 But you're removing interface.. 22:49:13 one no longer hits V 22:49:21 it would make it very unclear how things actually work 22:49:31 and would be confusing if more than one monster moves next to you 22:49:42 Have it attack the monster it would've attacked that turn had you hit tab 22:49:52 in cases of >1 guy 22:49:52 tab isn't actually a thing though 22:50:01 it's an arbitrary lua script 22:50:21 Ok whatever you want to call the autofight mechanism, I dont really care 22:50:32 no, i mean, the autofight mechanism isn't actually part of the game 22:50:37 uhh 22:50:46 So is it an rcfile thing, then? 22:50:49 yeah 22:50:54 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 22:51:47 ALright its unworkable then 22:51:50 never mind 22:51:55 Reaching still is super annoying though 22:52:01 this is true 22:53:03 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 22:53:08 22:47:47 but instead something like "You get a free attack when an opponent moves next to you" 22:53:10 doesn't that just mean 22:53:13 "walk away from enemies forever" 22:53:31 * Grunt walks away from PleasingFungus. 22:53:44 I might have had it backward 22:53:44 rude. 22:54:23 Oh I think "You move next to an enemy" is what i was thinking 22:54:31 but it still has the ordering problem 22:54:46 |amethyst: summon spells that players cast are much more reasonable. sticks to snakes is 15 * HD, summon hydra is 5 * HD, menagerie is 6 * HD... 22:55:10 still undecided about this one. might sleep on it. 22:55:35 reach is fun with Fed through plants and mushroom men 22:55:42 but that's probably an edge case 22:56:36 !send PleasingFungus Aizul 22:56:36 Sending Aizul to PleasingFungus. 22:56:53 * PleasingFungus sleeps. 22:56:57 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Client Quit] 22:57:16 tabstorm: have you ever pressed v with a polearm 22:58:55 -!- tigertrap has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:59:12 Yes, it lags me due to the animation 22:59:32 -!- demiskeleton has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 22:59:36 So I prefer to not do it 22:59:44 Grunt: what's the salamander fiery attack 23:00:02 Not sure if I can turn that off 23:04:27 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 23:04:48 -!- TR_Muscateer has joined ##crawl-dev 23:05:00 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:05:07 -!- culot has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:05:36 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:06:23 -!- hhkb has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:09:18 -!- Monocled|Jho has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 23:09:23 -!- aranasaurus has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:09:48 -!- hhkb has joined ##crawl-dev 23:10:23 -!- ircnode0 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:10:59 yeah okay 23:11:03 -!- Cerpin has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 23:11:03 -!- Cheburashka has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 23:11:03 -!- ivan`` has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 23:11:03 -!- djinni has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 23:11:08 i was underestimating salamanders here 23:11:16 they're quite OK 23:11:25 with a capital Q 23:12:01 %git salamander^^ 23:12:01 07Grunt02 * 0.16-a0-3157-g5f6838d: Give player salamanders AF_FIRE. 10(7 days ago, 3 files, 25+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=5f6838ddcebf 23:12:05 ^ read that for info 23:12:07 being perma-firemighted is pretty good 23:12:18 -!- twelwe has joined ##crawl-dev 23:12:26 when does it trigger though 23:12:31 whenever you do damage? 23:12:40 yes 23:12:48 hm, yes 23:12:53 definitely Quite OK then 23:13:20 maybe randround that divisor :^) 23:13:37 -!- ivan`` has joined ##crawl-dev 23:13:53 -!- djinni has joined ##crawl-dev 23:15:37 -!- Pacra has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:18:59 is this w god going on any other servers i cannot get onto cbro 23:19:37 -!- Krakhan has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:20:43 -!- tigertrap_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:21:42 in fact 23:21:45 let's randround it ourselves 23:22:31 1 + random2(div_rand_round(attacker->get_hit_dice(), 3)) mmm 23:23:16 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.16-a0-3250-g88dccf0 (34) 23:26:23 twelwe: I don't think so. what issues are you having with CBRO? 23:26:28 -!- weezeface has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 23:26:52 dang tabstorm 23:26:54 you must try this 23:26:55 the only other server that usually hosts experimentals is cszo. but both of those servers are USA and running nearly identical setups 23:26:56 ? 23:27:03 af_fire+axes 23:27:08 o 23:27:12 I am intrigued 23:27:15 ...salamanders are playable on cbro, you know 23:27:17 how much dam is af:fire 23:27:23 and does it count for total wins 23:27:26 1+1d(XL/3) 23:27:29 hm 23:27:35 How's that compare to vs 23:27:41 not much 23:27:45 oh 23:27:45 but it counts on every attack 23:27:48 ever 23:27:50 that does damage 23:27:59 also known as every enemy you cleave 23:28:08 so in total much more when there are a lot of enemies 23:28:09 Are they still rc-.. 23:28:13 yes ;-; 23:28:17 why.. 23:28:21 good IDA candidate though!!! 23:28:27 ugh you have to get one though 23:28:30 and also 23:28:36 you have the hydra issues 23:28:42 with an early game axer that's slow 23:31:20 go give it a shot 23:33:31 -!- Guest95609 has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 23:33:45 -!- Aperson_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:37:43 also you're an axer 23:37:58 grabbing some mace and exploiting your permamight probably won't end up too shittily 23:45:00 -!- AlexMcc has quit [] 23:49:51 trying cbro it says The Websocket connection was closed. Reload to try again. 23:50:31 i can get on the others just fine 23:52:41 Happens to me on s-z when I try to play on mobile 23:55:20 the weirdest part is that it's a browser issue