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Oh, you just did?] 00:04:47 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 00:06:10 -!- Ironfoot has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:07:35 -!- Whistling_Beard has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 00:12:49 -!- Deviljho has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 00:13:15 -!- Dixie has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 00:13:30 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.16-a0-3160-g1f26642 (34) 00:15:29 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 00:19:26 !lg * recent br=crypt s=kmap kmap!= 00:19:27 141 games for * (recent br=crypt kmap!=): 21x quadcrypt_mu, 15x grunt_crypt_end_deaths_head, 14x cryptofortress_bobbens, 10x evilmike_haunted_forest, 8x uniq_boris, 8x uniq_khufu, 7x uniq_margery, 7x uniq_sojobo, 5x lightli_unholy_cathedral, 4x church_of_pain_bobbens, 4x uniq_mennas, 3x door_vault, 3x uniq_jory, 3x special_room; special_room_morgue, 3x uniq_frederick, 3x due_elkab, 2x uniq_xtahua,... 00:20:09 !lg * recent br=crypt s=kmap kmap!= lvl<3 kmap!~uniq kmap!~special 00:20:09 13 games for * (recent br=crypt kmap!= lvl<3 kmap!~uniq kmap!~special): 2x door_vault, hangedman_screamer, st_burial_chamber, grunt_ministairs_15, st_stairs_9, lemuel_hellish_altar, grunt_deathspiral_small, minmay_shadows, grunt_megastairs_2, evilmike_ambush, grunt_megastairs_1, grunt_megastairs_4 00:20:44 !lm * current trunk br.enter=crypt !boring / lg:br=crypt 00:20:46 100/2298 milestones for * (current trunk br.enter=crypt !boring): N=100/2298 (4.35%) 00:21:02 !lm * current trunk br.enter=elf !boring / lg:br=elf 00:21:04 749/5159 milestones for * (current trunk br.enter=elf !boring): N=749/5159 (14.52%) 00:21:28 fr put elf behind a rune lock 00:21:35 what 00:21:43 to stop players from killing themselves by accident? 00:21:43 !lm * current trunk br.enter=elf !boring / lg:br=elf lg:lvl<3 00:21:45 295/5159 milestones for * (current trunk br.enter=elf !boring): N=295/5159 (5.72%) 00:22:37 my one crypt vault, the first truly complicated vault I ever made, no kills 00:23:01 maybe if there was four floors instead of two floors for it to even spawn, 00:23:04 -!- st_ has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 00:23:09 I found one game that actually encountered it by running an irssi script that did lm queries, fetched and scraped the morgues 00:23:53 most players don't have the map dumps enabled anyhow 00:24:10 03ebering02 {PleasingFungus} 07* 0.16-a0-3161-g784a923: Add Xom mood meter to webtiles. 10(6 days ago, 2 files, 7+ 13-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=784a9232e717 00:24:13 -!- dis- has joined ##crawl-dev 00:24:15 crypt:2 could always get a vault 00:24:23 gammafunk: which vault is this? 00:24:24 really would love that seperate log file with the extra info like encountered vaults 00:24:25 I could also rip out my tongue with my bare hands 00:24:34 uh 00:24:35 !vault yreds_forest 00:24:35 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/dat/des/branches/crypt.des;hb=HEAD#l1044 00:24:50 huh 00:24:52 looks fancy 00:25:23 not very, I should revamp it 00:25:32 but I keep making float vaults that are Too Big 00:25:40 (and have trouble placing as a result) 00:25:48 that is why you work in minivaults. 00:26:28 yeah, I just like the medium-larger projects more, but then again I take forever these days 00:26:53 that is also why you make a dozen of them so they count altogether as a larger project 00:26:54 -!- dis-_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:27:09 hrmph, 11 crypt-only vaults that would be worth guaranteed placement 00:27:41 and that's grouping together float and mini, even 00:27:50 -!- Z_LAMP has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 00:28:01 -!- causative has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:28:10 -!- Piginabag has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:29:02 hm 00:29:10 now that I finished that snail vault that I started six months ago 00:29:12 I should start another one 00:29:17 to finish in summer of next year 00:29:25 I feel like I had a vault idea at some point. 00:29:47 PleasingFungus: maybe try a full on lair end 00:29:53 huh 00:29:56 ambitious 00:29:58 those you really get to think a bit more about the design 00:30:02 I'd kill for people to contribute to that endless project of mine 00:30:03 or really any branch end 00:30:18 theTower: decorative vaults? 00:30:20 yes 00:30:25 gammafunk: did you have an opinion wrt pushing fancyhell? 00:30:28 those are easier, yeah 00:30:33 decorative branch-specific vaults 00:30:36 well the changes I saw, they're pretty modest so far? 00:30:40 ya 00:30:43 just the tweaking of the hell effect summons 00:30:50 I'm vaguely concerned about ruining everything 00:30:54 but I guess it's fairly unlikely 00:31:03 hrm, what would you ruin? 00:31:06 always be concerned about ruining everything with every action. 00:31:09 uh 00:31:11 dropping shard shrikes you mean? 00:31:11 especially inaction. 00:31:17 the delicate and finely-tuned balance of cocytus hell effects 00:31:20 *dropping them on the player 00:31:34 should I give a 1% chance of dropping an ice fiend as part of the extra spawns 00:31:43 no 00:31:44 or a lich 00:31:48 I think there's currently about a 1% chance of lich 00:31:54 it should be a 1% chance for a second fiend-slot 00:31:54 somewhere in that order of magnitude 00:32:04 and also put liches in 0.5% chance for the fiend slot 00:32:07 you've made it so that the not-high-tier spawns are exclusive from the e.g. t-1/shrikes? 00:32:22 also much less worthless-tier spawns 00:32:29 well, in coc at least they were already exclusive from the t-1s 00:32:29 poor cocytus wraiths 00:32:37 since there are no actual t1 spawns in coc 00:32:40 ah 00:33:03 (hells are wonderfully inconsistent, huh) 00:33:06 -!- AlphaQ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:33:10 but that issue was fixed for shrikes then? you won't get e.g. shrike bands from the "random monster" rolls? 00:33:20 -!- Mazed has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:33:27 my terminology is terrible, but I'm not sure what the nomenclature is called 00:33:37 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 00:33:40 there is support for future improvement and I think that paired with the current problem fix is more than fine enough 00:34:06 I'd like to do work myself for it but I'm running low on sanity 00:34:34 oh yeah, I see it 00:35:26 hell would probably new a few new enemies, or at least one for each branch like shards, or *something* 00:36:51 the existence of hell effects kind of makes a lot of ideas not really work if they're relatively drastic, since the instant death situations arise quickly 00:38:18 -!- Blomdor has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:38:50 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 00:39:51 gammafunk: yeah, the whole point of this branch was to remove shrike bands from the lesser hell effect summons 00:40:08 "minor_summons", _minor_hell_summons(), w/e 00:40:36 oh 00:40:44 (I think new fodder enemies for hells, while a little nice, are missing the point of hells, and it is inevitable to have to just accept the flood o 00:40:54 oh I thought of another thing you missed pf 00:40:59 bone. dragon. 00:40:59 o? 00:41:01 PleasingFungus: yeah, certainly seems reasonable then 00:41:16 they're quite rare at present 00:41:17 -!- inspector071 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 00:41:25 could weight them heavier in hell effects, of course 00:41:30 what to trade out for them? 00:41:47 maybe cut ice dragon in half? 00:41:51 heh 00:41:53 dragons for dragons 00:41:54 sure 00:43:46 -!- gammafunk has quit [Quit: leaving] 00:43:49 I had thought about bone dragons, but arbitrarily decided they were too rare in the current pick tables to toss into the minor summons 00:44:01 hmm, what were my plans ages ago 00:44:32 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.16-a0-3162-g12e38a2: Hand-pick hell effect spawns 10(7 days ago, 1 file, 38+ 4-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=12e38a2d5a41 00:44:32 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.16-a0-3163-g8885197: Allow variation of fiend types for hell effects 10(88 minutes ago, 1 file, 8+ 7-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=888519771557 00:44:32 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.16-a0-3164-gd974743: Add more dragons to Coc hell effects (tarot) 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 3+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=d97474330cef 00:44:52 parot 00:44:59 perot* 00:45:16 perrier 00:46:06 man, I really just hit a brick wall with that hive project, hrmph 00:48:28 wax wall? 00:49:39 -!- pentax has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 00:50:01 it's just rock that melts basically 00:51:35 -!- ruwin has quit [] 00:51:49 no I - I was making a joke... 00:51:50 :( 00:51:53 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91 [Firefox 34.0.5/20141126041045]] 00:52:41 -!- caricature has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 00:53:00 -!- SkaryMonk has joined ##crawl-dev 00:56:24 !messages 00:56:24 (1/1) johnstein said (2h 53m 46s ago): you play Killing Floor? me and my brothers are the other 4 on the Games We Play list. I run a dedicated server at kf.boylecraft.net and we play it frequently. 00:58:03 -!- NotKintak has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:04:05 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 01:06:09 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 01:06:36 -!- Whistling_Bread has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 01:10:19 -!- rophy has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 01:12:46 -!- winlu has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:15:14 -!- Z_LAMP has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:19:35 -!- wat has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:21:39 Can pseudopods be removed from jiyva mutations 01:25:33 -!- theTower has quit [Quit: leaving] 01:27:57 ??pesudopods 01:27:57 pesudopods ~ pseudopods ~ auxiliary attacks[3/4]: | Punch: 5 + UC skill / 3 + (6 with blade hands) + (claws mutation level)d3 with claws (does not stack with blade hands) | Bite: (fangs mutation level * 2) + (str - 10) / 5; + 2d4 with acidic bite mutation (and possible corrosion) | Pseudopods: 4 * (pseudopod mutation level) | Squeeze: 12 01:29:40 heh 01:29:43 !lg * kmap=cheibrodos_lost_city_excavation s=place,killer 01:29:44 23 games for * (kmap=cheibrodos_lost_city_excavation): 13x D:11 (10x a lich, 2x a wizard, a fire elemental), 5x D:12 (4x a lich, a wizard), 3x D:14 (3x a lich), 2x D:13 (2x a lich) 01:29:50 surprised nobody noticed this before 01:30:05 -!- Whistling_Bread has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:30:19 03doy02 07* 0.16-a0-3165-g9496dc8: fix monster selection in a couple vaults 10(5 minutes ago, 2 files, 2+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=9496dc8f1c1d 01:31:15 Or generally make the jiyva mutation thing a bit nicer 01:31:24 since now item dest is no more that rather large benefit is gone 01:31:29 -!- maha_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:35:28 -!- winlu has quit [Quit: reboot] 01:38:02 -!- mong has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.0.1] 01:40:45 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 01:41:19 -!- johnny0 has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 01:43:33 -!- johnny0 has joined ##crawl-dev 01:44:52 -!- Patashu has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:45:03 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 01:46:29 -!- dead_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:50:58 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 01:59:35 -!- Akitten_Homura has quit [Quit: Connection reset by pier.] 02:00:57 -!- Whistling_Beard has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:02:10 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:09:29 -!- Z_LAMP has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 02:15:46 -!- winlu has quit [Changing host] 02:18:27 !tell tabstorm change the stat shuffling formula again obviously 02:18:27 minmay: OK, I'll let tabstorm know. 02:19:13 -!- ololoev has quit [Client Quit] 02:20:42 Well I was thinking keep your str above your armour's ER, at least 02:20:42 tabstorm: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 02:20:58 Sort of annoying when I'm in GDA and he takes me down to 18 str 02:21:17 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.16-a0-3165-g9496dc8 (34) 02:22:39 -!- ololoev has quit [Client Quit] 02:24:34 -!- P_R_Deltoid has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:30:29 ??unarmed combat 02:30:30 unarmed combat[1/3]: Fighting without a weapon. Base damage is 3 + UC skill (+2 per claws level (so +6 Tr, +2 Gh), +X for forms); delay 10 - UC/5.4; +2 to hit (+4 Tr/Gh/Fe). This delay is increased to max(10, 1d10+2dAEVP) - UC/5.4 if wearing {heavy armour}, plus the usual shield penalty, plus 1d2 - 1 if using a shield. 02:37:54 -!- simmarine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:44:12 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 02:45:13 -!- Whistling_Bread has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:46:24 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 02:51:48 03doy02 07* 0.16-a0-3166-g0e6e23f: use you.in_branch(foo) instead of you.branch() == foo 10(5 minutes ago, 30 files, 185+ 185-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=0e6e23f8f377 02:58:35 -!- LonelyCloud has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 03:00:04 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 03:02:17 -!- Whistling_Beard has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 03:05:57 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:10:26 -!- _Jordan_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:14:40 -!- heteroy has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 03:15:24 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 03:19:29 -!- Z_LAMP has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 03:23:04 -!- st_ has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 03:29:37 -!- radinms has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 03:29:42 -!- Whistling_Bread has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:35:39 -!- Z_LAMP has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 03:38:29 -!- ololoev has quit [Client Quit] 03:43:32 -!- Whistling_Bread has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 03:53:58 -!- Xenobreeder has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 03:54:34 -!- Euph0ria has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 03:58:14 -!- Kintak has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 04:00:45 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 04:00:45 The build has errored. (master - 9496dc8 #1147 : Jesse Luehrs): http://travis-ci.org/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/builds/44060268 04:00:45 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 04:07:06 -!- schistosomatic has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:08:09 Spell statistics not shown in Memorisation->Describe 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9333 by rigrig 04:09:17 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:15:39 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 04:17:06 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 04:17:07 -!- inspector071 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 04:17:19 -!- DrKe has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 04:21:37 -!- DrKe has joined ##crawl-dev 04:21:52 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:30:41 -!- DrKe has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:35:48 -!- DrKe has joined ##crawl-dev 05:03:59 -!- Whistling_Beard has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 05:07:03 -!- scummos__ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:18:40 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:22:11 -!- rophy has quit [Quit: Miranda NG! 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(Coc:7) 07:22:42 -!- Lightli has joined ##crawl-dev 07:23:16 -!- Whistling_Bread has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 07:24:07 -!- Brannock has joined ##crawl-dev 07:24:31 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:36:16 -!- AreBrandon has joined ##crawl-dev 07:39:19 -!- demiskeleton has quit [Quit: Leaving] 07:44:31 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 07:47:03 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 07:49:35 -!- Ironfoot has quit [Client Quit] 07:50:05 -!- HoloIRCUser5 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 07:54:02 -!- Whistling_Beard has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 07:56:50 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 08:04:58 -!- iFurril has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 08:07:01 -!- Cryp71c has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:07:23 -!- edlothiol has joined ##crawl-dev 08:08:04 <|amethyst> !crashlog ironfoot 08:08:04 1. Ironfoot, XL27 HOFi, T:139557 (milestone): http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/Ironfoot/crash-Ironfoot-20141215-131820.txt 08:08:30 !tell doy I put a little more detail about my charm reform ideas here: https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=14393&p=199335#p199335 08:08:30 Lasty_: OK, I'll let doy know. 08:09:51 <|amethyst> !tell Grunt primal wave pushed the player into (on top of) a wall? !crashlog ironfoot 1 08:09:51 |amethyst: OK, I'll let grunt know. 08:10:26 <|amethyst> (telling Grunt under the assumption this has something to do with the new collision stuff) 08:13:54 hm 08:14:00 or maybe something to do with my refactor 08:16:55 -!- SomeStupidGirl has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 08:17:37 -!- Z_LAMP has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:27:45 -!- Whistling_Bread has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 08:29:10 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:48:34 yalue (L17 MiFi) ASSERT(!in_bounds(you.pos()) || !cell_is_solid(you.pos()) || you.wizmode_teleported_into_rock) in 'main.cc' at line 3015 failed. 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(Snake:5) 11:04:44 -!- muravey has joined ##crawl-dev 11:04:47 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 11:05:04 -!- muravey has quit [Client Quit] 11:06:25 -!- HoloIRCUser4 has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 11:07:14 -!- HoloIRCUser1 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:09:15 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 11:10:36 Knockback from phial of floods pushed player ghost into wall 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9334 by Piginabag 11:11:24 -!- HoloIRCUser4 has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 11:13:31 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Saindo] 11:23:03 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.16-a0-3166-g0e6e23f (34) 11:28:00 -!- doy has quit [Excess Flood] 11:28:24 -!- doy has joined ##crawl-dev 11:29:07 -!- HoloIRCUser1 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:31:37 -!- Whistling_Bread has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:32:29 -!- HoloIRCUser4 has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 11:32:44 -!- HoloIRCUser5 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:32:54 -!- Lawman0 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:34:01 -!- HoloIRCUser1 has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 11:34:26 -!- HoloIRCUser6 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:36:45 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 11:37:28 -!- HoloIRCUser5 has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 11:53:29 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 11:53:51 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 12:00:07 -!- weezeface has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:00:56 -!- muravey has joined ##crawl-dev 12:04:25 -!- weezeface has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:06:52 -!- herself has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 12:07:21 -!- theTower has joined ##crawl-dev 12:10:13 -!- enemycoke has quit [Client Quit] 12:15:39 -!- ystael has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 12:29:05 ah 12:29:16 need to remove line 4605 of beam.cc i think 12:30:14 !source beam.cc:4605 12:30:14 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/beam.cc;hb=HEAD#l4605 12:31:32 messed up the merge of bolt::knockback_actor and bolt::beam_hits_actor 12:32:00 03roctavian02 07* 0.16-a0-3167-gbfee712: Small improvements to yaktaur and yaktaur captain. 10(12 minutes ago, 4 files, 0+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=bfee7128f436 12:32:00 03roctavian02 07* 0.16-a0-3168-gf575c6d: Value/saturation adjustments for several monster tiles. 10(8 minutes ago, 15 files, 0+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=f575c6d4c58b 12:32:00 03roctavian02 07* 0.16-a0-3169-g2f9560d: Improvements to hippogriff, Nellie, and a couple skeletons. 10(5 minutes ago, 4 files, 0+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=2f9560d06e14 12:32:40 -!- AreBrandon has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 12:34:33 -!- wheals has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:34:36 -!- wheals_ has joined ##crawl-dev 12:34:46 actually, i'd also have to change the return to a break 12:36:17 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 12:36:29 huh, big hippogriff changes. 12:37:09 I vaguely worry that giving shirts to yaktaurs makes them look too similar to captains 12:40:02 -!- ldierk has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:40:17 why do they have pickaxes 12:40:19 -!- wheals_ is now known as wheals 12:42:30 eh, I don't really see that. there is a bowstring, after all 12:42:54 bah 12:43:04 i think they always looked that way 12:43:04 do captains ever get triples? 12:43:18 yeah, it looks like one in both the before and after version 12:43:28 xbows are hard to draw 12:43:47 they've got this weird unintuitive shape that your brain just thinks is a big box 12:43:56 -!- pythonsnake has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:45:17 wheals: not unless they pick up a rare spawn off the ground 12:45:28 I think warmongers might be able to get triples, but if so they're the only ones 12:45:31 aw 12:46:00 yeah 12:46:11 well, we don't give triple swords to vault wardens... 12:46:31 i've seen vault wardens with triples i think? 12:46:33 Grunt: is it intentional that monsters can't take collision damage from smacking into walls from force lance if they start next to it? 12:46:56 probably on v:5 12:47:02 so #.d -> #d. can do collision damage, but not just shooting lances at #d. 12:47:48 monsters that can spawn with triple swords: rupert, sojobo, any other unique that spawns with a 2h sword if it rolls plutsword 12:47:56 (but that's quite rare) 12:48:55 (and also I'm not sure what other uniques can spawn with 2h swords) 12:49:10 (or swords, really. not sure how unrand generation works) 12:49:12 plutsword rupert sounds terrifying 12:49:20 maud? 12:49:51 ??hell knight[$ 12:49:51 hell knight[2/2]: 44.4% no brand, 28.9% flaming, 8.89% draining, 8.89% vorpal, 4.44% pain, 4.44% distortion. 12:49:57 ??hell knight[1 12:49:57 hell knight[1/2]: Often signifies the presence of Margery. Tends to be outrageously well equipped (often has a demon weapon). When it's not hitting you with a ridiculous weapon, is either casting a) pain and haste, or b) bolt of fire and (in emergencies) blink. 12:50:07 bah, doesn't say the possible subtypes 12:50:57 !source mon-gear.cc:1022 12:50:57 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/mon-gear.cc;hb=HEAD#l1022 12:50:57 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 12:50:59 though it's a little messy 12:51:05 ("a little") 12:54:47 -!- ldierk has joined ##crawl-dev 12:56:41 can monsters wield two-handed weapons alongside a shield 12:56:50 take a good guess at why i'm asking 12:57:43 -!- HoloIRCUser1 has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 12:58:30 only formicid monsters 12:58:41 which essentially don't exist at present 13:00:24 wheals: not intentional 13:00:30 ok, i'll change it 13:01:19 (I swear I had that working previously. 13:02:01 -!- link_108 has joined ##crawl-dev 13:03:28 i expect i broke it. 13:04:03 -!- Whistling_Beard has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 13:04:07 formicid nobles with triple swords!... 13:04:34 Sp: gentlemanly duel 13:04:38 geoformers 13:05:15 you are mesmerized and can only walk or switch weapons 13:05:17 also people have expressed interest in the past in keeping rare top tier weapons only in the hands of uniques 13:05:26 theTower: Formicid Fencer 13:05:28 trople swords, exec axes, bardiches 13:05:31 -!- Basil has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:05:45 yeah I don't actually intend formicid architects to have triple swords 13:05:46 finally, a justification for the lbl title... 13:05:53 or trople swirds 13:05:56 Grunt: clearly formicid noble singular 13:06:01 the noblest of formicids 13:06:01 ity? 13:06:06 prince of the ant-people 13:06:15 baron of bugs 13:06:20 duke of dung beetles 13:06:27 count of crawlies 13:06:28 marquis of moths 13:06:44 &c 13:06:48 baronet of beetles 13:08:58 (shah of scorpions) 13:09:04 (sorry, I was done but I just thought of that one) 13:09:48 -!- DrKe has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 13:10:00 -!- Z_LAMP has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:10:57 earl of ants 13:11:36 I see I will name them formicid petrodigitators at this rate 13:12:56 -!- Fluttershaft has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:14:37 03wheals02 07* 0.16-a0-3170-gdc984a6: Fix beam knockback (#9334). 10(10 minutes ago, 1 file, 14+ 17-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=dc984a688551 13:14:37 03wheals02 07* 0.16-a0-3171-gce70061: Remove two unused arrays. 10(3 minutes ago, 2 files, 0+ 64-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=ce70061a4f6a 13:14:39 * geekosaur passes the petrol 13:15:21 -!- DrKe has joined ##crawl-dev 13:16:09 wow, the water elemental tile is great 13:16:48 is there a new one? 13:16:55 -!- cs_0x6373 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:18:12 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/file_download.php?file_id=6448&type=bug 13:18:16 %git 20ddfde79e224 13:18:16 07jpeg02 * 0.8.0-a0-2690-g20ddfde: Add coolio's water elemental tile. 10(4 years, 1 month ago, 2 files, 0+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=20ddfde79e22 13:18:25 why is that... weapon standing upright 13:18:34 is the hilt glued to the floor or something 13:18:34 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 13:18:42 it is an improvement from the blue jelly elemental 13:18:47 kvaak: the scimitar? 13:19:00 -!- Whistling_Bread has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:19:07 i'd assume so yese 13:19:10 *yes 13:19:18 also imo "archduke of ants, head of the house of habsoptera" 13:19:20 just an awkward angle 13:19:23 RBrandon (L20 VSAs) (Vaults:5) 13:19:37 no you see, there is a shadow blade coming out of the side of the hilt 13:19:38 (habsburg + hymnoptera, clearly) 13:20:05 kvaak: for some reason that is the way we do weapon shadows 13:20:09 theTower: that is clearly a piece of toothpaste. (the old water elemental sprite) 13:20:09 pleasingfungus: alright alright no nobility mentions in the stupid name 13:20:13 what 13:20:17 do you think I'm being negative 13:20:18 I love this shit 13:20:28 in the description instead! 13:20:28 it's true 13:20:32 fungi love shit in general 13:20:38 I know you love this shit, which is why I shouldn't enable it 13:20:44 gammafunk: as do beetles 13:20:49 also true 13:20:56 wheals: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1000017/crawl/water_elemental2.png 13:20:56 fr dung beetles 13:21:04 theTower: noooo 13:21:07 well, we do have death scarabs with miasma 13:21:07 they launch dung balls at you 13:21:07 the hate..... 13:21:08 heh 13:21:14 PleasingFungus: what's wrong with the current tile? 13:21:17 PleasingFungus: it's not hate! just science! 13:21:18 er 13:21:20 ontoclasm: 13:21:36 wheals: he had a big elemental sprite redesign project like six months back 13:21:37 arbitrary humanoidness, I believe 13:21:38 i made that months agao and didn't implement it 13:21:41 ya 13:21:45 tbh I'd forgotten about it. they were cool tho 13:21:47 look at those thin arms 13:21:48 had a unified thing going on with masks 13:22:02 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1000017/crawl/elementals.png 13:22:12 fire was good but the others were mediocre 13:22:21 so cute 13:22:31 they feel like pets 13:22:38 they are pets 13:22:42 they look like pokemon :v 13:22:44 well yes but 13:22:51 yeah someone said pokemon and then i couldn't do it 13:23:07 the ultimate insult 13:23:11 ridic 13:23:28 I think the only actually bad one is the translucent legless bird 13:23:55 (from a "pokemon" perspective) 13:24:16 that that one is really really bad 13:24:21 yeah* 13:25:03 ontoclasm: make it into a new shard shrike plz 13:25:13 pretty plz 13:25:21 hah 13:25:28 what do shard shrikes currently look like 13:25:33 antiravens still? 13:25:36 yes 13:25:45 oy 13:25:54 shouldn't bennu have first priority 13:26:19 oh yeah 13:26:22 i have a variety of bird-drawing projects lined up 13:26:26 fr more birds 13:26:29 rare theTower / gammafunk total agreement 13:26:44 riven ravens? 13:26:47 tbh the earth elemental is more of a pokemon than the bird one 13:26:49 river ravens? 13:26:55 river ravens? 13:26:57 -!- AreBrandon has joined ##crawl-dev 13:27:02 rivet ravens. 13:27:03 hell ravens? 13:27:14 just turn everything into hell x 13:27:18 ravenous raven mimics 13:27:25 hell orcs 13:27:29 PleasingFungus: so every monster in hell uses the x glyph? 13:27:32 ! 13:27:45 The mimic mimic cackles and disappears in a puff of smoke! 13:27:45 sounds like playing through that on console would be 13:27:47 but my mimic monster glyph mappings! 13:27:47 !glasses 13:27:48 ( •_•) ( •_•)>⌐■-■ (⌐■_■) 13:27:49 hell 13:28:31 wish I had that mockup minmay did a long time ago 13:28:33 about the future of crawl 13:28:47 imo hell rat -> trench rat 13:28:58 does it have unbreathing 13:29:01 from gas mask 13:29:10 WW II rat 13:29:13 gammafunk: what's the short version 13:29:24 no it's just the size of a cat 13:29:26 ...a felid 13:29:28 I don't want to do it injustice, let me find it 13:29:41 I still vaguely like the idea of using the prehistoric one-ton rat 13:29:47 alligator snapping turtle corpse mimic may or may not have hit you 13:29:58 there I ruined it (except for the choko armour rating) 13:30:00 why not wombats or capybaras 13:30:01 -!- Z_LAMP has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 13:30:07 yeah that was the short version 13:30:26 ontoclasm: it's name length, that's the key 13:30:27 ontoclasm: why would a capybara drain 13:30:33 in the image, the name was truncated 13:30:34 -!- umrain has quit [Client Quit] 13:30:40 it was a skeleton, i think 13:30:46 skeleton mimic 13:30:57 theTower: hell capybara 13:30:59 very plausible 13:31:27 theTower: have you ever fought a capybara 13:31:33 admittedly, no 13:32:09 I'm tempted to ask what's the most dangerous animal everyone has fought irl, but I should just post that in cyc 13:33:35 also ask what the most dangerous animal everyone has ate 13:33:46 will do 13:34:54 oh, for anyone who might know, do we have any lua style guidelines? 13:35:46 -!- Ironfoot has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:36:21 -!- Ironfoot has joined ##crawl-dev 13:38:37 Dear crawl dev gods, I may be a mere mortal but here my plea 13:38:43 hear* 13:39:24 Would you, in your divine benevolence, consider to make Santaeus Claus a reality? 13:39:26 https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=14421 13:39:28 Speak, mortal! 13:39:37 no, gammafunk hates anything silly to do with tiles! 13:40:03 oh, it took me a second to recognize that the brown thing is a bag of presents 13:40:17 I think that's pretty great, and it'd be easy to use for xmas 13:40:42 %git :/[Ss]atan 13:40:48 07kilobyte02 * 0.14-a0-1625-gb8d3063: Speech for Satan Claus. 10(12 months ago, 1 file, 4+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=b8d3063babbc 13:41:13 !lg * ikiller~~satan 13:41:15 85. nznznm the Spear-Bearer (L7 OpFi of Ashenzari), slain by Satan's ghost on D:4 on 2014-07-16 09:18:01, with 633 points after 4016 turns and 0:06:53. 13:41:45 !lg * name~~satan s=name 13:41:46 396 games for * (name~~satan): 178x Satan, 97x Satanized, 39x SatanicMechanic, 28x satanizedd, 21x thisatan, 17x SatansButtholeCancer, 3x YoungSatan, 3x bridgesatang, 3x Raptorsatan, 2x satanistcvlt, satanifreak, satanicbludlust, Satanas, SkatinSatan, SatanJr 13:43:14 !lg * ikiller="satan claus" 13:43:15 76. tellian the Ruinous (L3 DECj), slain by Satan Claus (a +1,+1 quarterstaff) on D:2 on 2013-12-27 14:05:51, with 153 points after 1557 turns and 0:07:18. 13:43:59 !killratio "satan claus" * 13:43:59 Subcommand $(!lg claus" * ikiller="satan fmt:"${n}" stub:"0") failed: Broken query near '" * ikiller="satan fmt:"${n}" stub:"0"' in $(= ${ratio} NaN) in $(if $(= ${ratio} NaN) No ba... 13:44:02 rip 13:44:06 !killratio satan_claus * 13:44:09 satan_claus wins 22.15% of battles. 13:44:17 !killratio robin * 13:44:19 robin wins 12.36% of battles. 13:44:21 Tell me masters, what is thy will 13:44:27 first 13:44:31 Ironfoot: maybe we could use that for the week of christmas 13:44:31 please stop talking like that 13:44:41 !lg * kmap~~pf_ 13:44:41 8. osklington the Whirler (L13 HaHu of Okawaru), mangled by an eight-headed hydra (kmap: pf_torpor_hydra) on Lair:5 on 2014-11-24 01:31:32, with 24796 points after 19301 turns and 3:49:56. 13:45:00 !lg * map~~pf_ 13:45:01 24. shmeve the Chopper (L8 MiBe of Trog), quit the game in the Temple (pf_slimified_temple) on 2014-12-03 01:38:56, with 1575 points after 5360 turns and 0:10:59. 13:45:03 Ironfoot: no do speak to us as if we are gods 13:45:16 Ironfoot: it will def. increase your chance of getting feature requests 13:45:21 Thy will is abso... I mean okay 13:45:50 anyway feel free to use it 13:46:04 I would remove the white background but my PC is acting up for some reason 13:46:08 rip 13:46:41 would be cool if we could give a bunch of "ice" enemies little elf hats and such 13:46:41 The white is snow. 13:46:59 Ice beasts w/ antlers? 13:47:06 omg yes 13:47:09 and glowing noses. 13:47:13 yesssss 13:47:17 can do 13:47:25 time to freeze shoals! 13:47:33 I like it 13:47:53 shard shrikes with boughs of holly 13:48:00 it would help me finish up HESu earlier if we backported frozen shoals as well 13:48:23 -!- WereVolvo has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 13:48:46 watch as ice turns out to be even more annoying than water 13:49:06