00:00:13 -!- Moanerette has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:00:39 !crashlog scylight 00:00:40 2. sCylight, XL5 DsFi, T:2772 (milestone): http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/sCylight/crash-sCylight-20141120-055849.txt 00:00:44 * geekosaur suddenly wonders if tiles would benefit from sdl2_ttf 00:00:47 PleasingFungus: good point 00:01:08 Grunt: imo robin's kill count would be much higher if it weren't for all the crashes 00:01:29 -!- tcsc has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 00:01:32 %git d588504 00:01:32 07wheals02 * 0.16-a0-2479-gd588504: Fix some crashes with GOBLIN BEAM (#927{7,8}). 10(4 hours ago, 1 file, 2+ 3-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=d5885044dd4f 00:01:42 that crash predates this 00:01:44 so, known 00:01:52 good. 00:01:57 -!- Z_LAMP_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 00:03:57 %git :/entiped 00:03:58 07MarvinPA02 * 0.14-a0-2841-g4dd8b08: Remove giant centipedes 10(9 months ago, 27 files, 28+ 83-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=4dd8b08a893a 00:04:15 I'd honestly forgotten about these guys 00:04:18 idk what the moral is there 00:04:28 <|amethyst> FR: giant centromeres 00:04:39 Grunt: I think I'm a genius! I think I figured it out!!!! 00:04:42 geekosaur: SDL2_ttf is just an interface to Freetype 00:04:55 geekosaur: which we're using directly 00:05:06 gammafunk: ! ? ! ? 00:05:06 !source tilesdl.cc:674 00:05:07 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/tilesdl.cc;hb=HEAD#l674 00:05:36 Grunt: that says we need a redraw if the last (I think) mouse tip location doesn't match the mouse location 00:05:46 but that logic gets all messed up when window goes small most times 00:05:52 and it's always true 00:05:56 so it goes to Redraw City 00:06:08 <|amethyst> oh, one is scaled and the other not? 00:06:10 if I disable that block I can resize small<->big and it works 00:06:14 yes, I was wondering if the interface would improve font handling at all like the scaling 00:07:26 Grunt: thoughts?!?!?! 00:07:43 gammafunk: I think I'll go to sleep 00:07:45 also 00:07:45 00:07:49 noooooooo 00:08:07 maybe I can figure out how to clean that up tomorrow 00:08:11 after I myself sleep 00:08:12 good 00:08:18 sadly it can still crash 00:08:21 if you make the window super tiny 00:08:23 get it done by the time I'm home from work 00:08:25 so there are other issues 00:08:25 i m o 00:08:42 maybe a minimum window size or something 00:09:09 some bits of the code already expect a minimum window size 00:09:20 800x480 except if TOUCH_UI iirc 00:09:25 well that would explain the crashes 00:09:26 imo extend that 00:10:02 will check it out 00:10:10 since I'm an opengl graphic developer now 00:11:00 -!- endou has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:11:48 octopode crusher (08x) | Spd: 10 | HD: 16 | HP: 99-127 | AC/EV: 1/18 | Dam: 35, 1003(constrict) | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, fighter, amphibious, spellcaster | Res: 06magic(60), 12drown | XP: 2235 | Sp: iron shot (3d29), tentacle throw [11!AM, 06!sil] | Sz: Medium | Int: normal. 00:11:48 %??octopode crusher 00:11:49 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:12:11 -!- Whistling_Bread has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 00:12:40 just tab it 00:13:14 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.16-a0-2561-g747aab2 (34) 00:14:17 -!- wheals has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 00:14:28 -!- link_108 has joined ##crawl-dev 00:17:56 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 00:19:56 remind me where SEMI, UP, etc are explained? 00:20:01 I know there's a comment somewhere. 00:20:21 nvm found it 00:22:32 are you adjusting opc placement 00:23:07 n 00:23:10 hm 00:23:17 where do hell effect monsters come from? 00:23:18 like, codewise 00:23:21 not epistemologically 00:24:32 !function _hell_effects 00:24:32 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/effects.cc;hb=HEAD#l1207 00:24:37 yeah I'm looking at that 00:24:41 it only seems to list the top-tier guys 00:25:16 PleasingFungus: near the bottom 00:25:20 that mgen defaults to random monster 00:25:25 so will go by the branch 00:25:30 // Try to summon at least one and up to five random monsters. {dlb} 00:25:30 if (one_chance_in(3)) 00:25:30 { 00:25:35 ahh, I see. 00:25:37 hm. 00:26:11 now that we have sound, can we add spooky hell voices 00:26:38 imagine what we could do on Halloween! 00:26:38 we've always had sound! 00:26:40 oh man 00:26:53 -!- Whistling_Beard has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:26:53 -!- weezeface has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:29:19 -!- Kramin has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:30:02 -!- zarath9 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:30:15 New branch created: iceshrike (1 commit) 00:30:15 03PleasingFungus02 07[iceshrike] * 0.16-a0-2563-g474a750: Add Shard Shrikes 10(3 minutes ago, 8 files, 41+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=474a7506cd53 00:30:15 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.16-a0-2562-gff274f8: Realphabetize monsters.txt 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 10+ 10-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=ff274f8c720e 00:38:37 -!- kazimuth has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 00:41:07 -!- gammafunk has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 00:43:01 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 00:43:05 -!- markgo has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 00:43:28 not sure how well spells with that damage work on speed 30 monsters 00:43:58 only like 12.5% chance they cast it I guess 00:44:17 ?/3d30 00:44:18 Matching entries (2): pedjt[1]: http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=9163D30ECE5BA2F9 http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=09913DB36548A7D6 | protip[6]: 3d30 really means "tickles a bit" if you have any AC at all 00:44:27 thanks, youtube. 00:44:30 oh it's on breath timer? 00:44:41 oh, did I leave that in? 00:44:46 I went back and forth on htat 00:44:50 didn't remember what I'd decided 00:44:57 MON_SPELL_NATURAL | MON_SPELL_BREATH 00:45:02 looks like it, then! 00:45:23 ?/tickle 00:45:24 Matching entries (2): itsmu[1]: You tickle the shadow dragon! You relax the shadow dragon!! You caress the shadow dragon like a lover!!! | protip[6]: 3d30 really means "tickles a bit" if you have any AC at all 00:46:06 nrook was arguing that shadow dragons should have shadowstab 00:46:10 and, presumably, invisibility 00:46:30 -!- Whistling_Bread has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 00:46:38 merging the makefile changes was annoying. the tiles build can wait until tomorrow >.> 00:47:00 let's see 00:47:05 if these things are nutso 00:47:13 (I might just reset Makefile, pull, and apply patch from the one I merged already) 00:49:46 -!- moose has joined ##crawl-dev 00:50:12 did something change recently that would make ===hit_closest either stop working, or behave differently? I just upgraded my save and the macro doesn't seem to be working 00:50:54 uh oh 00:51:53 or I can do that now and discover that there's a problem... all the includes are SDL/whatever and need to be SDL2/whatever *sgh* 00:52:41 -!- Blomdor has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:53:09 -!- weezeface has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:54:37 as far as you folks know, ===hit_closest hasn't changed? 00:55:18 moose: I don't even know what that is. 00:55:31 oh, it's tab? 00:55:33 PleasingFungus: got a band of four of these and it's like watching an episode of star wars 00:55:42 when they all fire icicles 00:55:42 gammafunk: yesssss 00:55:42 these things are brutal 00:55:44 well I've always (before autofight) used tab keybapped to 'o' 00:55:52 moose: you lunatic! 00:56:01 so when tab was added, I needed a way to map it, so I mapped backspace to ===hit_closest 00:56:12 and it just stopped working 00:56:16 It seems. 00:56:36 hm 00:56:39 err I mapped caps_lock to ===hit_closest 00:56:40 backspace sounds vaguely familiar 00:56:42 not backspace 00:56:43 oh 00:56:48 capslock is a weird choice 00:56:51 since it's a very special key 00:56:57 useless key 00:56:57 oh 00:57:10 my os mapping of capslock to ctrl 00:57:13 doesn't work in sdl2 tiles 00:57:24 wonder if something changed wrt some keymaps 00:57:27 I'm playing console 00:57:35 yeah but the keymaps 00:57:47 they exist for console and tiles 00:57:54 sdl2 was ...is it live now 00:58:01 &versions 00:58:09 %git :/merge 00:58:09 07doy02 * 0.16-a0-2312-g3f8f1f6: actually, banishment is not all that interesting as a primary spell 10(3 days ago, 1 file, 0+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=3f8f1f68c28b 00:58:12 would this be comsidered a bug? Or should I just stop using caps lock? 00:58:13 CAO: 0.16-a0-2464-gd9e547f, CBRO: 0.16-a0-2461-ge8ce426, CDO: 0.16-a0-2461-ge8ce426, CKR: 0.16-a0-2496-g2bee4a8, CLAN: 0.16-a0-2465-g0f9d4c6, CSZO: 0.16-a0-2561-g747aab2 00:58:19 %git :/Merge 00:58:19 07Grunt02 * 0.16-a0-2558-g6680ffd: Merge branch 'sdl2' 10(2 hours ago, 0 files, 0+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=6680ffd2a1d4 00:58:29 -!- Whistling_Beard has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 00:58:44 !lm moose x=src 00:58:45 27490. [2014-11-20 06:48:05] [src=cszo] moose the Spry (L12 FeTm of Makhleb) entered the Orcish Mines on turn 28558. (D:9) 00:59:02 moose: it may be a bug due to the sdl2 merge 00:59:09 moose: can you file a bug report? 00:59:23 Can you link me. 00:59:31 ??mantis 00:59:31 mantis[1/2]: To report bugs or submit new content like vaults, patches or tiles, go to: http://crawl.develz.org/mantis/main_page.php 00:59:37 ? 00:59:44 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/bug_report_page.php 00:59:46 yeah or that 01:00:02 have to register if you don't have an account (tavern registration works though) 01:01:20 -!- Zilis is now known as Guest74263 01:01:43 !tv * ikiller=robin 01:01:44 13. omil, XL4 OpTm, T:1568 requested for FooTV (telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org). 01:01:45 ok filed: https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9234 01:02:18 -!- Hailley has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 01:02:21 thanks, it'll show up in channel soon 01:03:03 -!- gammafunk has quit [Quit: leaving] 01:04:01 -!- Guest34878 has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 01:04:03 oy vey 01:04:11 !send wheals the GOBLIN BEAM misses you. 01:04:12 Sending the GOBLIN BEAM misses you. to wheals. 01:04:39 man 01:04:45 that thing is so much more trouble than it's worth 01:04:53 I think I'm gonna disable it for now 01:04:54 he can fix it 01:06:32 SDL2 merge causes caps lock macros to stop working 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9234 by Moose 01:06:32 !lg * ikiller=robin -2 -tv:<0.5 01:06:32 12/13. zzxc, XL3 DrTm, T:1560 requested for FooTV (telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org). 01:06:32 !nuke 01:06:32 FooTV playlist clear requested by PleasingFungus. 01:06:32 !lg * ikiller=robin -2 -tv 01:06:32 12/13. zzxc, XL3 DrTm, T:1560 requested for FooTV (telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org). 01:07:25 I also noticed that asterisk no longer closes doors 01:07:34 that happened before the sdl2 merge though 01:07:39 asterisk? 01:07:49 yah that's the key i've always used to close doors 01:07:54 ??ctrl 01:07:55 ^[1/1]: Press Ctrl- with the character after the caret. If you can't use ctrl, hit * then the key. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Control_character 01:08:03 ctrl does not work on linux console for me 01:08:10 do you mean *direction, or just * on its own? 01:08:13 * + dir 01:08:19 just helping out what * does 01:08:22 ah 01:08:24 that's intended, yes. 01:08:29 -!- Kintak has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:08:33 -!- ololoev has quit [Client Quit] 01:08:37 how does one close doors now then? 01:08:42 C. 01:08:46 ahh thanks. 01:08:57 -!- MgDark has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:09:01 -!- MgDark_ is now known as MgDark 01:10:09 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.16-a0-2563-g66d2376: Temporarily remove the GOBLIN BEAM 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 0+ 14-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=66d23762bafa 01:11:08 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91 [Firefox 36.0a1/20141110030204]] 01:11:51 -!- TheMattybee has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:11:52 %version 01:11:52 trunk: 0.16-a0-2561-g747aab2; 0.15: 0.15.2; 0.14: 0.14.2; 0.13: 0.13.2; 0.12: 0.12.3; 0.11: 0.11.3; 0.10: 0.10.3-19-g6f05415 01:11:59 -!- Z_LAMP has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:13:36 -!- HDA has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:13:49 -!- HDA has joined ##crawl-dev 01:18:40 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 01:19:46 -!- Hailley has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 01:25:54 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 01:30:04 -!- Whistling_Bread has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 01:30:22 -!- Zilis is now known as Guest36457 01:31:13 -!- Redz has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 01:32:56 -!- anubisbafoobis has quit [Quit: anubisbafoobis] 01:33:04 -!- crawlTV has joined ##crawl-dev 01:33:21 -!- Guest74263 has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 01:34:41 -!- Whistling_Beard has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:34:57 -!- schistosoma has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:38:00 -!- Whistling_Bread has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 01:38:20 -!- zarath9 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:39:57 -!- Kramin has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:41:42 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 01:43:35 -!- Whistling_Beard has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 01:45:54 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 01:48:38 -!- Whistling_Bread has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 01:50:49 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 01:53:37 -!- Sharkman1231 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:53:57 -!- us17 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:54:39 -!- casmith_789 has joined ##crawl-dev 01:56:57 -!- casmith789 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:57:35 -!- Guest36457 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:59:37 -!- us17 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:00:39 -!- syllogism has joined ##crawl-dev 02:04:48 -!- schistosomatic has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 02:05:34 -!- rophy has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 02:06:02 -!- ruwin has quit [] 02:06:29 -!- Whistling_Beard has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 02:13:10 -!- Utis has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:22:24 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.16-a0-2563-g66d2376 (34) 02:27:17 -!- tijit has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:28:04 -!- simmarine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:30:15 -!- link_108 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 02:33:56 -!- Whistling_Bread has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 02:36:35 -!- Marbit has joined ##crawl-dev 02:39:17 -!- SomeStupidGuy has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:42:40 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 02:43:08 -!- tensorpudding has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 02:43:50 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 02:44:52 -!- Whistling_Beard has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:46:38 gah, .d files 02:46:41 -!- markgo` has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 02:46:46 (should not still be awake but since I am...) 02:48:41 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 02:51:44 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Quit: Connection reset by pier.] 02:52:42 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 02:53:49 -!- witty_ has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 02:53:49 -!- witty has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 02:55:06 -!- ElanMorin has joined ##crawl-dev 02:56:17 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 03:20:34 -!- Whistling_Bread has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:22:10 -!- Xeiph has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 03:24:32 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 03:25:19 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 03:25:42 -!- Zauren has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 03:33:22 -!- Marbit has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 03:36:16 -!- _Jordan_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:38:41 -!- Kramin has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:44:09 Grunt, do you think it might be viable to port crawl's opengl(es) code to SDL2's render library? 03:45:37 -!- Kramin has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:47:22 -!- jayjay has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 03:52:56 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:53:45 -!- DrKe has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 03:56:17 -!- weezeface has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:56:20 GEN tiledef-player.h 03:56:20 libpng warning: iCCP: known incorrect sRGB profile 03:57:17 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 03:58:32 -!- ololoev has quit [Client Quit] 04:02:17 -!- hawtfix has joined ##crawl-dev 04:03:12 -!- Zauren has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 04:08:29 -!- hawtfix has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91 [Firefox 33.1/20141106120505]] 04:08:29 -!- Kintak has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:08:37 -!- Utis has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 04:17:05 -!- MIC132 has joined ##crawl-dev 04:18:03 When compiling my tilegen crashes, after throwing errors "couldn't load image" for about a hundred lines.. 04:18:11 Anything changed since yesterday? It worked fine then 04:21:48 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 04:22:23 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 04:22:23 The build passed. (singularity - 3e8af37 #637 : Shmuale Mark): http://travis-ci.org/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/builds/41560530 04:22:23 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 04:22:36 Any help? 04:22:53 -!- myfreeweb has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 04:26:10 I would imagine this has something to do with merging of SDL2 branch, but.. 04:28:48 -!- Patashu has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:28:59 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 04:29:06 probably. the person who did it is likely asleep, along with most of the other devs... 04:29:23 * geekosaur would be asleep if is sinus infection weren't trying to choke him to death... 04:30:42 I will note that I did a tiles build on Mac and did not have problems with tilegen 04:37:08 I think the problem is elsewhere.. I just did make clean for contribs, just in case, and I can't compile them back 04:38:22 It crashes on compiling "libpng" 04:39:31 Well, I'll have to check when the relevant timezone is not asleep, I guess 04:43:30 -!- muravey has joined ##crawl-dev 04:45:34 -!- Basil has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 04:49:53 -!- DrKe has joined ##crawl-dev 04:51:55 -!- MIC132 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 04:53:43 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 04:53:43 The build passed. 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Use !messages to read it. 10:00:24 3. smajdalf, XL6 DgEE, T:5084 (milestone): http://crawl.lantea.net/crawl/morgue/smajdalf/crash-smajdalf-20141120-121605.txt 10:00:58 !crashlog anything 10:00:58 1. anything, XL5 HaHu, T:1868 (milestone): http://crawl.lantea.net/crawl/morgue/anything/crash-anything-20141120-131730.txt 10:01:41 &versions 10:01:53 CAO: 0.16-a0-2464-gd9e547f, CBRO: 0.16-a0-2563-g66d2376, CDO: 0.16-a0-2461-ge8ce426, CKR: 0.16-a0-2496-g2bee4a8, CLAN: 0.16-a0-2465-g0f9d4c6, CSZO: 0.16-a0-2561-g747aab2 10:02:11 oh, that needs to be updated with more servers I guess 10:02:20 probably 10:02:31 !fn serverlist 10:02:31 !fn serverlist () (list CAO CBRO CDO CKR CLAN CSZO) 10:02:59 !lg * rend>=20141013 s=src 10:03:00 19409 games for * (rend>=20141013): 6689x cszo, 6604x cao, 3936x ckr, 571x cbro, 505x cxc, 492x clan, 268x cdo, 254x lld, 90x cpo 10:04:18 !fn serverlist () (list CAO CBRO CDO CKR CLAN CPO CSZO CXC LLD) 10:04:19 Redefined function: !fn serverlist () (list CAO CBRO CDO CKR CLAN CPO CSZO CXC LLD) (was: !fn serverlist () (list CAO CBRO CDO CKR CLAN CSZO)) 10:04:24 &versions 10:04:36 CAO: 0.16-a0-2464-gd9e547f, CBRO: 0.16-a0-2563-g66d2376, CDO: 0.16-a0-2461-ge8ce426, CKR: 0.16-a0-2496-g2bee4a8, CLAN: 0.16-a0-2465-g0f9d4c6, CPO: 0.16-a0-2563-g66d2376, CSZO: 0.16-a0-2561-g747aab2, CXC: 0.16-a0-2558-g6680ffd, LLD: 0.16-a0-1932-gf53b8a5 10:04:47 LLD, huh 10:04:48 hm, what is LLD 10:04:51 ??lld 10:04:52 lld[1/2]: http://lazy-life.ddo.jp:8080/#lobby - Admin is https://twitter.com/dplusplus/ . 10:05:06 ah, japan 10:05:14 ya 10:08:13 -!- Kintak has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:09:20 &versions 0.15 10:09:32 CAO: 0.15.2, CBRO: 0.15.2, CDO: 0.15.2, CKR: 0.15.2, CLAN: 0.15.2, CPO: 0.15.2, CSZO: 0.15.2, CXC: 0.15.2, LLD: 0.15.1-2-g75d94fb 10:10:41 -!- Z_LAMP has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 10:10:51 possibly someone should pop the admin an email and see what's up 10:11:54 -!- JuicyPear has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:12:37 -!- tabstorm has joined ##crawl-dev 10:15:10 -!- Blakmane has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:18:30 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 10:25:39 Schizzik (L5 FoFi) (D:3) 10:27:07 -!- DrKe has joined ##crawl-dev 10:28:22 -!- Zilis is now known as Guest83692 10:28:49 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 10:28:52 -!- Z_LAMP has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:30:53 -!- Zileas has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:37:28 -!- Z_LAMP has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 10:38:51 -!- Guest83692 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 10:41:09 -!- Basil has joined ##crawl-dev 10:44:12 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91 [Firefox 36.0a1/20141110030204]] 10:44:24 -!- Zileas has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 10:45:28 -!- muravey has joined ##crawl-dev 10:46:39 -!- muravey has quit [Client Quit] 10:47:46 -!- Codrus has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:48:41 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.16-a0-2565-g1d3f5c8: Revert "Temporarily remove the GOBLIN BEAM" (Grunt) 10(33 minutes ago, 1 file, 15+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=1d3f5c86fdf3 10:48:53 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 10:52:35 foophykins (L3 MuWz) (D:2) 10:52:56 -!- mopl has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:53:17 -!- SomeStupidGuy has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:53:27 -!- foophykins has joined ##crawl-dev 10:53:50 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 10:53:51 I have a reproducible error. 10:53:57 On D:1 10:54:11 <|amethyst> !crashlog foophykins 10:54:12 9. foophykins, XL3 MuWz, T:2561 (milestone): http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/foophykins/crash-foophykins-20141120-165234.txt 10:54:15 Every time I see Robin, it freezes hard. 10:54:29 <|amethyst> let me update CDO 10:55:07 Every time I see Robin the Hobgoblin it freezes. 10:55:14 Seems to be right after his battlecry 10:55:34 <|amethyst> it's when she throws a goblin 10:55:42 -!- Whistling_Beard has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:56:03 <|amethyst> %git 2f605488 10:56:04 07wheals02 * 0.16-a0-2476-g2f60548: Some GOBLIN BEAM fixups. 10(16 hours ago, 2 files, 22+ 18-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=2f6054882b08 10:56:21 Oh 10:56:27 <|amethyst> it's probably fixed, but CDO has an out-of-date build 10:56:28 <|amethyst> hm 10:57:23 -!- Whistling_Bread has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:58:05 Seems I can't play trunk - "Another game is in use with this save" 10:58:42 <|amethyst> that's probably the crashed game 10:58:46 <|amethyst> it should time out in a few minutes 10:59:04 <|amethyst> hm, rebuild is not working because CDO's makefile patches conflict 11:00:52 -!- tabstorm has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:02:46 <|amethyst> hm, I can't figure out these conflicts 11:03:05 <|amethyst> Grunt: would you mind looking at the Makefile conflicts on CDO when you get a chance? 11:03:41 <|amethyst> Grunt: CDO has its own local patches to the Makefile with, it looks like, a completely different install target 11:04:00 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 11:05:48 -!- Kramin has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 11:18:43 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 11:21:40 -!- MIC132 has joined ##crawl-dev 11:23:47 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.16-a0-2565-g1d3f5c8 (34) 11:25:45 Still can't play trunk. 11:26:11 looking at the logs, there seem to have been issues updating CDO, meaning that it's stuck on a buggy version. 11:26:12 -!- Whistling_Beard has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 11:26:46 -!- DrKe has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 11:27:23 Lasty_: You there? 11:27:36 -!- Z_LAMP has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:27:56 Anyone ran into problems after the sdl2 merge? 11:28:12 I got some errors, so I just make clean-ed and updated contribs 11:28:21 And now it bugs out at compiling libpng.. 11:29:45 -!- ais523 has joined ##crawl-dev 11:32:12 -!- DrKe has joined ##crawl-dev 11:42:24 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 11:42:26 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 11:42:47 Noone has any ideas? I posted the exact error here: https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?p=197070#p197070 11:42:52 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: it has local makefile changes, and the build tries to rebase them onto trunk 11:43:10 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: but there's a conflict with the SDL2 makefile changes 11:43:12 -!- Z_LAMP has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 11:43:59 <|amethyst> MIC132: what compiler and version? 11:44:11 Uh. I'ts on msys 11:44:20 <|amethyst> gcc --version 11:44:26 Yeah, just checking 11:44:30 4.8.2 11:44:35 A bit "hacked in" 11:44:36 ummm 11:44:44 that pnglibconf.h is impressively broken 11:44:45 (cause msys caps at 4.4.0) 11:44:52 But it worked yesterday 11:44:59 before the sdl2 merge 11:45:03 my guess is the file was supposed to begenerated and you're missing something to generate it 11:45:04 geekosaur: You mean? 11:45:11 Hmm.. 11:45:14 pnglibconf.h:1:8: error: expected '=', ',', ';', 'asm' or '__attribute__' before '/' token 11:45:14 scripts/pnglibconf.h.prebuilt 11:45:18 I did "make clean" in conttribs 11:45:24 that second line is the contents of the file 11:45:26 And git submodule update 11:45:47 So you are saying the problem isn't my compiler, but that file? 11:45:57 what the contents of that file are supposed to be are the contents of the file that it is instead naming 11:46:28 the make clean probably killed that file and then it failed to be regenerated properly from scripts/pnglibconf.h.prebuilt for some reason 11:46:42 |amethyst: yeah 11:47:01 geekosaur: Any ideas how to fix it? 11:47:16 <|amethyst> MIC132: if you cd into source/contrib/libpng what does git status say? 11:47:48 $ git status 11:47:50 HEAD detached at 204cd99 11:47:50 nothing to commit, working directory clean 11:48:20 The detached head seems worrying 11:48:33 But I never touched those files, apart from makes and make-cleans 11:49:20 |amethyst: I'm assuming that's not what git status should be shwoing there? 11:49:42 <|amethyst> actually that looks "right" 11:50:16 Hmm.. 11:50:18 -!- Whistling_Bread has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 11:50:34 <|amethyst> I think Grunt didn't push this commit to the branch? 11:50:46 <|amethyst> err, to the submodule's master branch 11:50:47 <|amethyst> I'm a little confused thoug 11:50:50 <|amethyst> though 11:51:06 Confused about what? 11:51:08 <|amethyst> OHHH 11:51:11 <|amethyst> it's a symlink 11:51:17 <|amethyst> which doesn't work on Windows I imagine 11:51:27 ow 11:51:32 That might be it, but.. 11:51:47 Did you start to use symlinks only in this version? 11:51:49 actually symlinks ought to work on ntfs? although maybe the ones implemented in that vrsion of msys don't 11:51:52 <|amethyst> MIC132: yeah 11:51:56 I was compiling just yesterday without problems 11:52:04 Ah, damn 11:52:17 <|amethyst> MIC132: for a quick fix, cd to the submodule and cp scripts/pnglibconf.h . 11:52:46 won't this break git though? 11:52:53 As in won't git complain when I try to pull? 11:53:02 <|amethyst> only when you update submodules 11:53:35 There is no "pnglibconfig.h" in that subfolder 11:53:42 Only "pnglibconfig.h.prebuilt" 11:53:45 <|amethyst> err 11:53:52 <|amethyst> sorry 11:53:53 -!- DrKe has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:54:02 <|amethyst> cp scripts/pnglibconf.h.prebuilt pnglibconf.h 11:54:21 <|amethyst> it was exactly the right length for ".prebuilt" to wrap to the next line here :) 11:54:23 Ok, let's see 11:54:35 <|amethyst> !tell Grunt 1. the pnglibconf.h symlink appears not to work on msys (MIC132 got an ordinary file containing the string "scripts/pnglibconf.h.prebuilt" as the contents of the file) 11:54:36 |amethyst: OK, I'll let grunt know. 11:55:01 It looks like libpng compiled 11:55:02 Now 11:55:17 Question is if I won't run into the same problem that caused me to clean everything in the first place 11:55:23 <|amethyst> !tell Grunt 2. the version of the libpng module mentioned in trunk is a detached head; should probably push that commit to master in the submodule 11:55:24 |amethyst: OK, I'll let grunt know. 11:56:11 <|amethyst> !tell Grunt For 1. I'm not sure if it's better to copy the file or what; I guess #include "scripts/pnglibconf.h.prebuilt" would have problems at install time? 11:56:11 |amethyst: OK, I'll let grunt know. 11:56:23 Welp, next crash 11:56:49 make[2]: Entering directory `/crawl/crawl-ref/source/contrib/sdl2-mixer' 11:56:50 * rebuilding sdl2-mixer: new build flags or prefix 11:56:50 CXX external/libmodplug-0.8.8.4/src/fastmix.o 11:56:50 CXX external/libmodplug-0.8.8.4/src/load_669.o 11:56:50 CXX external/libmodplug-0.8.8.4/src/load_abc.o 11:56:53 external/libmodplug-0.8.8.4/src/load_abc.cpp: In function 'ABCHANDLE* ABC_Init()': 11:56:53 external/libmodplug-0.8.8.4/src/load_abc.cpp:2405:40: error: 'setenv' was not declared in this scope 11:56:53 -!- Z_LAMP has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:56:54 setenv(ABC_ENV_NORANDOMPICK, buf, 1); 11:56:56 ^ 11:57:02 external/libmodplug-0.8.8.4/src/load_abc.cpp:2417:39: error: 'setenv' was not declared in this scope 11:57:05 setenv(ABC_ENV_NORANDOMPICK, buf, 1); 11:57:09 ^ 11:57:09 make[2]: *** [external/libmodplug-0.8.8.4/src/load_abc.o] Error 1 11:57:11 make[2]: Leaving directory `/crawl/crawl-ref/source/contrib/sdl2-mixer' 11:57:11 make[1]: *** [sdl2-mixer] Error 2 11:57:12 make[1]: Leaving directory `/crawl/crawl-ref/source/contrib' 11:57:14 make: *** [.contrib-libs] Error 2 11:57:16 I bet it's similiar problem 11:57:40 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 11:58:39 <|amethyst> hm 11:59:09 Or not, now that I look at it 11:59:40 <|amethyst> hm 11:59:46 <|amethyst> HAVE_SETENV 12:00:26 <|amethyst> configure on libmodplug should have detected that you don't have setenv, but it appears it did not 12:00:32 -!- Zilis is now known as Guest28408 12:00:40 <|amethyst> there's a definition of setenv in that source file for systems that don't have it 12:00:58 <|amethyst> but it's inside #ifndef HAVE_SETENV 12:01:12 So it just didn't properly detect I don't have setenv? 12:01:15 <|amethyst> ohh 12:01:21 <|amethyst> we don't run configure 12:01:32 <|amethyst> it's hardcoded in our version of the makefile 12:01:48 <|amethyst> edit contrib/sdl2-mixer/Makefile and remove the -DHAVE_SETENV 12:01:55 "our version"? 12:02:19 <|amethyst> MIC132: our contribs all have hacked and lobotomised makefiles for some reason 12:02:20 -!- muravey has joined ##crawl-dev 12:02:47 <|amethyst> !tell grunt and in sdl2-mixer it hardcodes -DHAVE_SETENV but that's not true in msys 12:02:47 |amethyst: OK, I'll let grunt know. 12:03:10 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:03:13 Where is that line? 12:03:21 -!- Stendhal has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 12:03:34 Ah, found it 12:03:38 <|amethyst> CFLAGS += -I$(prefix)..... 12:04:08 Hmm.. What git commands should I run if I want at some later date update my submodules? 12:04:17 Cause it will probably refuse due to changes in foles 12:04:19 *files 12:05:01 <|amethyst> MIC132: cd into those two module directories and do git stash save 'local fixes' 12:05:05 <|amethyst> in each of them 12:05:11 -!- witty_ has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 12:05:11 -!- witty has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 12:05:24 <|amethyst> or git reset --hard HEAD but that will throw away your changes instead of stashing them 12:05:44 And if I did that stash a folder above? In /contrib? 12:05:51 <|amethyst> I don't think that would work 12:05:55 Oh god 12:06:01 The next crash is even more spectacular 12:06:05 <|amethyst> because each submodule is a different git repository 12:06:24 CC external/libmikmod-3.1.12/drivers/drv_AF.o 12:06:24 In file included from external/libmikmod-3.1.12/drivers/drv_AF.c:51:0: 12:06:24 external/libmikmod-3.1.12/drivers/drv_AF.c:218:9: warning: 'drv_AF' redeclared without dllimport att 12:06:24 ribute: previous dllimport ignored [-Wattributes] 12:06:24 MISSING(drv_AF); 12:06:25 ^ 12:06:27 external/libmikmod-3.1.12/include/mikmod_internals.h:658:28: note: in definition of macro 'MISSING' 12:06:31 #define MISSING(a) MDRIVER a = { NULL, NULL, NULL, 0, 0 } 12:06:33 ^ 12:06:35 CC external/libmikmod-3.1.12/drivers/drv_aix.o 12:06:37 In file included from external/libmikmod-3.1.12/drivers/drv_aix.c:39:0: 12:06:39 external/libmikmod-3.1.12/drivers/drv_aix.c:203:9: warning: 'drv_aix' redeclared without dllimport a 12:06:41 ttribute: previous dllimport ignored [-Wattributes] 12:06:43 MISSING(drv_aix); 12:06:45 ^ 12:06:47 external/libmikmod-3.1.12/include/mikmod_internals.h:658:28: note: in definition of macro 'MISSING' 12:06:49 #define MISSING(a) MDRIVER a = { NULL, NULL, NULL, 0, 0 } 12:06:50 <|amethyst> ugh 12:06:51 ^ 12:06:53 CC external/libmikmod-3.1.12/drivers/drv_alsa.o 12:06:53 <|amethyst> no clue about that one 12:06:55 In file included from external/libmikmod-3.1.12/drivers/drv_alsa.c:33:0: 12:06:57 external/libmikmod-3.1.12/drivers/drv_alsa.c:460:9: warning: 'drv_alsa' redeclared without dllimport 12:07:01 attribute: previous dllimport ignored [-Wattributes] 12:07:03 MISSING(drv_alsa); 12:07:05 ^ 12:07:07 external/libmikmod-3.1.12/include/mikmod_internals.h:658:28: note: in definition of macro 'MISSING' 12:07:09 #define MISSING(a) MDRIVER a = { NULL, NULL, NULL, 0, 0 } 12:07:11 ^ 12:07:13 CC external/libmikmod-3.1.12/drivers/drv_esd.o 12:07:15 In file included from external/libmikmod-3.1.12/drivers/drv_esd.c:40:0: 12:07:17 external/libmikmod-3.1.12/drivers/drv_esd.c:352:9: warning: 'drv_esd' redeclared without dllimport a 12:07:19 ttribute: previous dllimport ignored [-Wattributes] 12:07:21 MISSING(drv_esd); 12:07:22 <|amethyst> MIC132: for future reference 12:07:23 ^ 12:07:25 external/libmikmod-3.1.12/include/mikmod_internals.h:658:28: note: in definition of macro 'MISSING' 12:07:27 I got about 3x times more of this 12:07:31 But taht's the gist of it 12:07:33 *that's 12:07:33 <|amethyst> MIC132: if it's more than three or four lines 12:07:35 Nooo! We were so close.. 12:07:37 <|amethyst> use a pastebin :) 12:07:41 Yeah, sorry 12:07:49 Ok, so we are stuck at this? 12:07:57 <|amethyst> !tell grunt and mikmod in sdl2-mixer/external has all kinds of problem, MIC132 reports 12:07:57 |amethyst: OK, I'll let grunt know. 12:08:03 What is this library anyway? 12:08:09 <|amethyst> yeah, I know nothing about dlls 12:08:17 <|amethyst> sound 12:08:28 sound? In crawl? 12:08:48 -!- fortyCak1s has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:08:53 <|amethyst> yeah, we have theoretically supported sound for a long time but in practice it was too much of a pain to build with 12:09:07 <|amethyst> I don't know the details on the sdl2-mixer change though 12:09:17 <|amethyst> sdl2-mixer, one of our contribs, includes libmikmod 12:09:32 <|amethyst> which is a library for playing (and probably manipulating) MOD files 12:10:09 Ah, I get it.. And for some reason that library won't compile properly on msys. 12:10:16 Great, considering it's not even used. 12:10:30 <|amethyst> yeah, I imagine we don't actually use mod files 12:11:27 -!- weezeface has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:11:31 So I'll have to wait till someone who has some idea about this comes around (grunt?) and takes a look? 12:12:07 <|amethyst> someone with more windows dev knowledge anyway 12:12:33 <|amethyst> file a report on mantis with all the stuff you had to do and the error messages from each of the three problems 12:12:34 I'm quite sure that lasty also uses msys (had same problems as I had last time), so maybe he also ran into this. 12:12:42 <|amethyst> yeah 12:12:55 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 12:13:07 ^version 12:13:07 trunk: 0.16-a0-2563-g66d2376; 0.14: 0.14.2; 0.13: 0.13.2 12:13:08 <|amethyst> I was !telling Grunt because he did the sdl2 port, not because he's a Windows person 12:13:10 %version 12:13:11 trunk: 0.16-a0-2561-g747aab2; 0.15: 0.15.2; 0.14: 0.14.2; 0.13: 0.13.2; 0.12: 0.12.3; 0.11: 0.11.3; 0.10: 0.10.3-19-g6f05415 12:13:35 good. as long as I'm keeping up with cszo I know I'm ok 12:13:40 |amethyst: Will it be ok if I include all three problems in one raport 12:13:40 ? 12:13:49 <|amethyst> MIC132: yeah 12:14:02 |amethyst: And I guess I should pastebin all three errors? 12:14:06 <|amethyst> MIC132: "msys sdl2/libpng contrib build errors" 12:14:14 <|amethyst> MIC132: upload them as text files to the bug report 12:14:29 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:14:46 It's not only libpng 12:14:48 <|amethyst> or paste them in comments 12:14:59 mixer is not part of libpng 12:15:08 I'll just call it msys sdl2 build errors 12:15:10 <|amethyst> MIC132: I meant that "/" as "and-or" 12:15:11 Or something 12:15:14 Ah 12:15:21 <|amethyst> it's not just sdl2, also libpng 12:15:28 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 12:15:41 <|amethyst> maybe "msys sdl2 and libpng contrib build errors" :) 12:15:49 <|amethyst> or sdl2-mixer to be more specific 12:16:19 -!- weezeface has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 12:16:27 <|amethyst> anyway, we'll figure out what it's about, title isn't *that* important as long as it makes sense 12:19:21 "product version", this classifies as "experimental"? or "long-term development"? 12:20:19 it's 0.16, which is 'experimental'. 12:20:21 iirc. 12:20:31 Mayheim (L3 HOGl) (D:2) 12:20:43 -!- PolkaDot has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 12:21:32 <|amethyst> err 12:21:37 Ah, no. There is "0.16 development branch" option, so that I guess 12:21:47 <|amethyst> yeah 12:22:24 <|amethyst> rebuilding clan 12:23:18 |amethyst: you think it's worth discussing trying to organize the various server admins? maybe ##crawl-admins (not like we need another room). just seems like there's quite a lot now so it might be useful to think about if/when we want to have a group like that. maybe ##crawl-dev is enough for now 12:23:37 |amethyst: I can only attach more than one file after submintting? 12:23:56 <|amethyst> MIC132: yeah 12:24:32 <|amethyst> johnstein: hm 12:24:53 <|amethyst> johnstein: I kind of like having it in ##crawl-dev, but I'm both so I might not be the best judge :) 12:25:47 I think I do too. but it's also nice to leave a message in a location where it won't scroll away in an hour. but that just might mean an irc room is not the right venue 12:25:53 -!- DrKe has joined ##crawl-dev 12:26:20 <|amethyst> ah, I'd have them all in the same window anyway probably 12:26:31 Ok, submitted. 12:26:46 msys sdl2-mixer and libpng contrib build errors 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9236 by MIC132 12:26:48 |amethyst: ok. 12:27:16 Oh, Chei even informs about this? 12:27:40 <|amethyst> MIC132: yeah (and I triggered Chei to report early; usually it checks every few minutes) 12:27:49 <|amethyst> ??cheipoke 12:27:49 cheipoke[1/1]: http://s-z.org/cgi-bin/cheipoke 12:28:39 Ok. If you feel I should add anything to the report then tell me 12:28:53 <|amethyst> thanks! 12:30:14 -!- DrKe has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 12:31:24 -!- DrKe has joined ##crawl-dev 12:31:33 nice, travis seems to be working well now 12:31:41 -!- Utis has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 12:31:56 -!- fortyCakes has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 12:33:21 -!- link_108 has joined ##crawl-dev 12:35:15 :) 12:35:17 time to break it 12:35:30 did you guys see the shrike branch I put up last night? 12:36:31 -!- DrKe has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 12:38:00 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: 12:38:04 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: "a terrible chill now surrounds them.o" 12:38:13 .o 12:38:14 3. Train, XL22 DrTm, T:71859 requested for FooTV (telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org). 12:38:20 wait, what 12:38:34 what on earth is that? 12:38:36 <|amethyst> weird 12:38:50 <|amethyst> !cmd .o 12:38:50 Command: .o => !lg * ((tiles || !@hugeterm)) kmap=minmay_octagon_city ntv=0 -tv 12:38:55 huh 12:39:04 that is oddly specific 12:39:32 -!- Poncheis has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91 [Firefox 33.1/20141106120505]] 12:39:35 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: "A terrible chill now surrounds them.o. The linker dies!" 12:39:49 rip 12:40:40 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 12:40:44 gammafunk described a flock of ice shrikes all firing icicles as "looking like an episode of star wars" 12:41:10 <|amethyst> FR: flying lizard-like things that spit stones 12:41:21 <|amethyst> Call them "petrodactyls" 12:41:45 hahaha 12:43:20 hm 12:43:28 ogre (07O) | Spd: 10 | HD: 5 | HP: 19-38 | AC/EV: 1/6 | Dam: 17 | 10items, 10doors | Res: 06magic(20) | XP: 118 | Sz: Large | Int: normal. 12:43:28 %??ogre 12:43:28 two-headed ogre (04O) | Spd: 10 | HD: 6 | HP: 24-44 | AC/EV: 1/4 | Dam: 17, 13 | 10items, 10doors, two-weapon | Res: 06magic(40) | XP: 283 | Sz: Large | Int: normal. 12:43:28 %??two-headed ogre 12:43:29 ogre mage (06O) | Spd: 10 | HD: 10 | HP: 40-68 | AC/EV: 1/7 | Dam: 12 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, spellcaster, see invisible | Res: 06magic(80) | XP: 928 | Sp: haste other, crystal spear (3d28), blink, b.fire (3d18), b.cold (3d18), minor healing (2d5) [04emergency] / haste other, mystic blast (3d15), invisibility, confuse, slow, teleport self [04emergency] / haste other, paralyse, haste, b.lightning (3d17), confuse, teleport self [04emergency] / haste other, sting (d10), blink, b.lightning (3d17), banishment, minor healing (2d5) [04emergency] / haste other, throw flame (3d8), invisibility, teleport other, fireball (3d19) | Sz: Large | Int: high. 12:43:29 %??ogre mage 12:43:30 caustic shrike (09b) | Spd: 20 | HD: 17 | HP: 90-128 | AC/EV: 10/18 | Dam: 4008(acid:7d3) | see invisible, fly | Res: 06magic(80), 05fire, 02cold, 08blind | XP: 4359 | Sz: tiny | Int: normal. 12:43:30 %??caustic shrike 12:43:38 ah, must have been an ogre mage 12:43:48 hm. that's still weird. 12:44:03 ( http://crawl.develz.org/wordpress/trunk-updates-17-november-2014/comment-page-1#comment-2025 ) 12:45:53 -!- tcsc has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 12:46:28 Unstable branch on crawl.lantea.net updated to: 0.16-a0-2565-g1d3f5c8 (34) 12:48:07 -!- fortyCakes has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 12:49:47 lasty 12:49:49 oops 12:50:11 MIC132: yeah, what's up? 12:50:40 -!- Cryp71c has joined ##crawl-dev 12:52:44 Lasty_: This is up: https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9236 12:53:03 Maybe you have some ideas about the third error (first two I fiexed locally thanks to amethyst) 12:54:04 oh, hmm. I haven't run into that issue myself. I'm afraid I'm unlikely to be very helpful. Sorry! 12:54:34 Lasty_: I wonder why you didn't while I did.. Did you recompile since sdl2 merge? 12:55:26 when did it get merged? 12:55:59 I guess some time today/yesterday? 12:56:04 yesterday night. 12:56:06 well. 12:56:08 depending on time zone. 12:56:13 I compiled nicely yesterday afternoon (european time) 12:56:30 An I couldn't compile today noon. 12:57:27 Lasty_: ? 12:58:16 -!- foophykins has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:58:20 I was able to compile last night at 9 pm EDT 12:58:37 but I haven't tried since 12:58:44 %git 12:58:44 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.16-a0-2565-g1d3f5c8: Revert "Temporarily remove the GOBLIN BEAM" (Grunt) 10(3 hours ago, 1 file, 15+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=1d3f5c86fdf3 12:59:01 Well, when I tried today I ran in some problems with tilegen 12:59:10 looks like the merge was later 12:59:28 So seeing that sdl2 was merged, I make clean-ed and updated contribs 12:59:39 And then the problems described in the mantis report came up 13:00:47 hrrm. They'll probably affect me too, but I might not get a chance to investigate until friday 13:02:22 -!- Schizzik has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:02:39 Well, since it's already evening for me, I'll just give up for today. If you figure antyhing be sure to add it to mantis report. 13:03:04 will do! 13:03:22 sorry I can't be more help 13:04:08 Ah, no problem. 13:04:17 You helped me a lot last time. 13:04:59 Ok, I'll probably be going for today. Thanks for help, |amethyst . Bye all. 13:05:02 -!- MIC132 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:11:36 -!- Z_LAMP has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 13:12:39 -!- Kintak has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 13:14:26 -!- mong has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.0.1] 13:15:11 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 13:17:25 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 13:20:24 -!- Z_LAMP has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:21:03 !tell |amethyst I think HAVE_SETENV is there specifically to get mikmod to compile; could just disable the former 13:21:03 Grunt: OK, I'll let |amethyst know. 13:21:22 !send Grunt SHARD SHRIKES 13:21:22 Sending SHARD SHRIKES to Grunt. 13:21:28 !tell |amethyst or on a larger scale only puoo in SDL2mixer on request 13:21:28 Grunt: OK, I'll let |amethyst know. 13:21:42 PleasingFungus: still at work, rip 13:21:49 rip 13:22:04 PleasingFungus: imo speed 10 and add flaeh freeze and berserker emergencies 13:22:11 PleasingFungus: and change glyph to blue C 13:22:17 PleasingFungus: and call them yetis 13:22:20 <_< >_> 13:22:30 :p 13:22:40 !send Grunt https://38.media.tumblr.com/4c9772495ecdffe27459c591f50eb0ac/tumblr_n2e57ovXBR1qevglto3_1280.jpg 13:22:41 Sending https://38.media.tumblr.com/4c9772495ecdffe27459c591f50eb0ac/tumblr_n2e57ovXBR1qevglto3_1280.jpg to Grunt. 13:22:45 not really related admittedly 13:23:12 !send PleasingFungus a HYDRA STORM 13:23:13 Sending a HYDRA STORM to PleasingFungus. 13:23:29 !!! 13:24:01 ?/hydra storm 13:24:01 Matching entries (1): ncrawl[1]: features: poison storm, choko storm, firestorm storm, mephitic storm, iood storm, dispel storm, oklob storm, bug storm, inaccuracy storm, chaos storm, mutagenic storm, drain storm, blink storm, apport storm, hydra storm, thunder storm, porkalator storm, wall storm, xom storm, door storm, enslavement storm, deconstruction storm 13:24:15 thunder storm 13:24:18 !!! 13:25:35 -!- ais523 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:25:36 where's the shark storm? :p 13:25:45 -!- ais523 has joined ##crawl-dev 13:25:58 imo shark head form 13:28:11 -!- Z_LAMP has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 13:32:15 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 13:34:04 -!- ais523 has quit [] 13:34:48 -!- SomeStupidGuy has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 13:36:57 -!- lessens has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:39:16 -!- DrKe has joined ##crawl-dev 13:41:44 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 13:42:47 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 13:44:58 Turns you into the head of a shark, flopping around and slowly suffocating 13:48:36 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 13:51:52 beastly appendage was originally "turn your head into a shark head". 13:52:18 :O 13:55:30 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 13:55:40 then it became +horns/talons/TENTACLES 13:55:53 <|amethyst> it had claws for a while too 13:55:53 |amethyst: You have 2 messages. Use !messages to read them. 13:56:07 -!- blabber has joined ##crawl-dev 13:56:37 it had claws in like 0.11 or something 13:56:40 <|amethyst> Grunt: yeah, disabling sdl2mixer by default might be best for now, unless it's easy enough to exclude mikmod 13:56:41 and then it was swiftly removed 13:57:31 <|amethyst> ah "made it to a release" means "forever" to me :) 13:57:53 <|amethyst> s/forever/essentially &/ 13:58:08 -!- kazimuth has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. 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ZZZzzz…] 14:59:33 caustic shrike (09b) | Spd: 20 | HD: 17 | HP: 90-128 | AC/EV: 10/18 | Dam: 4008(acid:7d3) | see invisible, fly | Res: 06magic(80), 05fire, 02cold, 08blind | XP: 4359 | Sz: tiny | Int: normal. 14:59:33 %??caustic_shrike 14:59:48 those things are real nightmares 15:00:42 I got like 6 or 7 on grunt's runaround encompass 15:00:42 -!- weezeface has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:01:59 gammafunk: I opened a door in grunt_runaround and found 4 of them right on the other side 15:02:06 haha 15:02:13 did you ever kill them? 15:03:04 I teleported away, came back and killed 2, didn't find the other 2 when autoexploring and didn't look for them... then saw one on orbrun but didn't fight it then either 15:04:43 -!- link_108 has joined ##crawl-dev 15:05:47 !lg * killer=caustic_shrike 15:05:47 21. eagle the Cleaver (L11 GrCK of Xom), slain by a caustic shrike on Lair:1 on 2014-11-19 10:34:09, with 7230 points after 9355 turns and 0:51:29. 15:05:51 -!- weezeface has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:06:00 oh 15:06:06 !lg * ikiller=caustic_shrike 15:06:07 that is a very mean xom 15:06:07 21. eagle the Cleaver (L11 GrCK of Xom), slain by a caustic shrike on Lair:1 on 2014-11-19 10:34:09, with 7230 points after 9355 turns and 0:51:29. 15:06:10 good lair:1 shrike 15:06:43 !lg * killer=caustic_shrike alldam s=place 15:06:43 Extra fields (x=dam,sdam,tdam) contain non-aggregates 15:06:54 man I wonder if the existance of shrikes has increased the difficulty of CK by an appreciable degree 15:06:58 btw, why does lemuel_acid_trip not have any caustic shrikes 15:07:06 !lg * killer=caustic_shrike s=place 15:07:07 21 games for * (killer=caustic_shrike): 6x Depths:3, 4x Depths:4, 4x Depths:5, 4x Depths:2, Depths:1, Lair:1, D:15 15:07:16 elliptic: yea it probably should 15:07:18 elliptic: because we haven't added them yet 15:07:28 Grunt: did you add them to runaround or something? 15:07:36 that vault must use 8 15:07:42 gammafunk: runaround is purely 098 15:07:47 ah 15:07:50 except on U:5 15:07:53 098 vault 15:08:06 it seems like it's very easy for things to poly into shrikes 15:08:10 my 4-shrike room was a U:5 runaround 15:08:15 someone was reporting ogres polying into shrikes, which is a 7-HD difference 15:08:24 . . . 15:08:24 maybe they meant ettins...? 15:08:25 ettin (07C) | Spd: 10 | HD: 12 | HP: 53-80 | AC/EV: 9/4 | Dam: 45, 45 | 10items, 10doors, two-weapon | Res: 06magic(40), 12drown | XP: 1134 | Sz: Giant | Int: normal. 15:08:25 %??ettin 15:08:25 -!- weezeface has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:08:28 M_MUST_POLY_TO 15:08:30 that's still 5 HD 15:08:32 idk. 15:08:39 !source monster::polymorph 15:08:40 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/monster.cc;hb=HEAD#l5437 15:08:43 hill giant (04C) | Spd: 10 | HD: 11 | HP: 45-73 | AC/EV: 3/4 | Dam: 30 | 10items, 10doors | Res: 06magic(40), 12drown | XP: 653 | Sz: Giant | Int: normal. 15:08:43 %??hill giant 15:08:46 PleasingFungus: did you see that I got water palace in my game? 15:08:53 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 15:08:56 !source monster_polymorph 15:08:56 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/mon-poly.cc;hb=HEAD#l429 15:08:57 gammafunk: I did not! 15:09:04 PleasingFungus: I excluded it 15:09:06 did you see my last death? it's mega funny 15:09:10 like, in a stupid way 15:09:11 !lg PleasingFungus 15:09:12 368. PleasingFungus the Brawler (L14 GhWz of Kikubaaqudgha), slain by a spiny frog (kmap: minmay_lair_end_frog_pond) on Lair:8 on 2014-11-20 05:31:36, with 47962 points after 18967 turns and 1:50:56. 15:09:18 that one? 15:09:20 ya 15:09:23 !lg PleasingFungus -tv 15:09:24 368. PleasingFungus, XL14 GhWz, T:18967 requested for FooTV (telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org). 15:09:25 FROG VAULT 15:09:32 that character was very shit, then got agony online and became surprisingly good 15:09:40 and then, well. 15:09:46 well I'm 15:09:48 !lm . 15:09:48 10632. [2014-11-20 20:42:01] gammafunk the Bludgeoner (L23 MuGl of Gozag) left the Elven Halls on turn 96572. (Elf:1) 15:09:52 a not very good char 15:09:52 nice 15:09:59 yeah here we are 15:10:15 note the stairs, that I could have gone up 15:10:39 it turns out there are some times in which it is incorrect to eat chunks. 15:10:55 were you casting something? 15:11:00 * Grunt yawns. "Was that it?" 15:11:03 I saw dchan, but there was this blinking 15:11:09 maybe just the red from damage 15:11:37 I went from 66 hp to dead in one player turn 15:11:46 hrm 15:11:53 !lg PleasingFungus x=dam,tdam 15:11:54 368. [dam=6;tdam=26] PleasingFungus the Brawler (L14 GhWz of Kikubaaqudgha), slain by a spiny frog (kmap: minmay_lair_end_frog_pond) on Lair:8 on 2014-11-20 05:31:36, with 47962 points after 18967 turns and 1:50:56. 15:12:07 well it wasn't one player turn 15:12:12 you mean "one action" 15:12:13 idk how delays and chunk-eating interact with that 15:12:15 ya 15:12:21 yeah eating is like 4 or 5 turns 15:12:28 I thought it was 3 turns now 15:12:29 still too many 15:12:44 I love eating chunks 15:12:46 and memorizing spells 15:12:48 in fights 15:12:52 (as a summoner) 15:12:55 same 15:13:01 a necromancer is like a summoner 15:13:05 true 15:13:07 unfortunately I did not have enough pals in that fight 15:16:40 -!- alefury has joined ##crawl-dev 15:18:23 huh. apparently if you polymorph a monster into a slime while following Jiyva, the game treats it as if you slimified them. 15:19:12 specifically, it won't preserver their spells, and it'll mark them "no_annotate", whatever that means. 15:19:54 PleasingFungus: also, funny thing, I bribed V and some vault p became peaceful, then later on some vault p joined me for gold, one of which was a convoker 15:20:03 mm? 15:20:05 and he used convoke and it convoked the peaceful vault p 15:20:19 like somehow it worked only for those, since they were peaceful 15:20:22 did it a couple times 15:20:26 h m m m m 15:20:29 for shadow c., the convokers don't try to convoke 15:20:41 but then there are no peaceful enemies usually 15:22:14 what does bribe do when the indicator becomes lightblue? 15:22:22 it started out white then turbed to lightblue 15:23:25 I think that's a warning that your bribe fund is running low. 15:23:29 idk. 15:23:40 oh and 15:23:40 Enemies become less hostile will lower the 15:23:40 remaining bribe fund; upon its exhaustion, bribed enemies will resume 15:23:41 hostilities. 15:23:45 typo!!!!! 15:23:55 check out the description for gozag wrath sometime 15:23:59 in dat/descript/gods.txt or w/e 15:24:39 that was from the a screen 15:24:44 so it'd be the ability database 15:25:04 no I know that's where the bribe desc would be 15:25:15 nonetheless I stand by my recommendation 15:25:25 oh I meant to fix the typo 15:25:35 yeah the description is reasonably clear, it does seem there's a fund 15:25:45 but that status light is still kind of confusing I guess 15:25:58 the Vaults (humans) Susceptibility: high $1812 15:26:03 so would that be my remaining funds? 15:26:07 probably? 15:26:10 hrm 15:26:16 wonder how v:5 will go 15:26:23 could say $xxxx left 15:26:25 if that's true 15:26:30 oh man zerker wizard 15:26:41 man I *so* wish 15:26:48 I could get a hide from all these fire D 15:26:50 :( 15:27:33 donald taunts you about that 15:28:01 @The_monster@ says, "I bet you can make some really great dragon armour out of gold." 15:28:17 what do we tell RoGGa? https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9237 15:28:38 I don't really feel strongly about that one. 15:28:45 I would rather create another category in the DCSS project, if that's really necessary 15:28:48 though I am curious about the sourceforge thing he mentions. 15:29:18 you got notification email about that ticket, PleasingFungus? 15:29:21 ya 15:29:26 wasn't sure anymore if only i get them 15:29:29 great 15:29:47 -!- pwnmonkey has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 15:30:48 I get emails about tickets being opened, resolved, and closed, and new comments being added 15:30:54 ug 15:30:58 gammafunk: shrike!!!! 15:31:02 I bet it's only the one. 15:31:06 thx 15:31:12 np :) 15:31:18 blink adjacent you thinK/ 15:31:21 *? 15:31:25 oh I was thinking of walking away 15:31:30 I don't like leaving that brain alone 15:32:53 !lm gammafunk 15:32:54 10634. [2014-11-20 21:27:16] gammafunk the Warrior (L23 MuGl of Gozag) reached level 5 of the Depths on turn 99962. (Depths:5) 15:33:22 wait gammafunk 15:33:33 oh you wouldn't have seen it, you're on console. 15:33:36 !rip gammafunk 15:33:38 gammafunk the Warrior (L23 MuGl), worshipper of Gozag, slain by a phantasmal warrior on Depths:5, with 500276 points after 73603 turns and 3:49:09. 15:33:40 when you were on the stairs tile, your laj tile was all fucked up 15:33:45 offset high 15:33:54 that weird offset glitch 15:33:59 yeah that's a bug I need to fix 15:34:09 will work on that soon, shouldn't be too hard to fix I think 15:34:25 how's box of beasts working for you? 15:34:30 it's a bit better 15:34:39 I used it situationally in e.g. hallways 15:34:44 once fo XTAHUA 15:34:52 but it's not as good as the sack 15:35:17 I found it useful early 15:35:19 got a catoble one that was surprisingly effective, at least 15:35:20 but, I mean, what isn't 15:35:36 since the rest of it was like hound, elephant or something 15:38:00 -!- Moredread has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 15:38:01 gammafunk: imo ?immo 15:38:08 nah 15:38:36 nice 15:38:47 lasty was afraid of this!!! 15:39:02 I think it's ok if they have one weakpoint 15:39:12 no. they must be unstoppable killing machines. 15:39:16 no one can survive. 15:39:49 if a player survives an encounter with a caustic shrike, we have FUCKED UP. 15:40:04 rip 15:40:08 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 15:42:19 rip chimera 15:42:24 !remove wheals 15:42:55 PleasingFungus: re the goblin beam, i'd suggest adding beam.hit = AUTOMATIC_HIT; i think 15:43:05 %git :/ever 15:43:05 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.16-a0-2565-g1d3f5c8: Revert "Temporarily remove the GOBLIN BEAM" (Grunt) 10(5 hours ago, 1 file, 15+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=1d3f5c86fdf3 15:43:07 ^ 15:43:22 (grunt suggested the same thing) 15:43:42 augh 15:43:48 it would be nice if we could use the beam for messaging (and make it auto-hit you), but there's a) "The Ijyb hits you" [it always puts "the" in] and b) if it goes through monsters 15:43:49 didn't we make air elementals stop doing that 15:43:54 it is annoying 15:44:14 I could have sworn someone fixed that. 15:44:27 weird. 15:45:30 rip gammafunk 15:45:31 i thought n7 did 15:45:37 in the default message ignores? 15:45:39 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 15:45:43 maybe it didn't match right 15:45:48 PleasingFungus: :p 15:46:20 oh, it could be that g'funk overrode it. 15:46:38 yeah could be 15:46:46 anyway, I could swear that *I* changed it so that friendly monsters won't submerge if their target is null or MHITYOU 15:47:09 (anaconda, alligator, bat) 15:47:15 since the unsubmerging code is in mon-behv.cc <- spooky scary mystery land 15:47:19 feels like at 15 evo we should not have bats 15:47:19 gammafunk: powerful!!! 15:47:22 oh 15:47:27 have you seen how the stuff is calculated 15:47:28 does it get the speed 15:47:32 I have no idea. 15:47:35 ah anaconda 15:47:38 unknown monster: "anacond" 15:47:38 %??anacond 15:47:39 anaconda (15S) | Spd: 18 | HD: 11 | HP: 49-73 | AC/EV: 4/16 | Dam: 603(constrict), 20 | amphibious, cold-blooded | Res: 06magic(40), 12drown | XP: 923 | Sz: Large | Int: reptile. 15:47:39 %??anaconda 15:47:41 yeah 15:47:56 first head is purely based on evo, second is on random2(evo), third is somewhere in between iirc 15:48:10 oh, i see 15:48:11 so every head but the first has good odds of being really shit 15:50:51 chimera (anaconda, alligator, bat) (06H) | Spd: 24 | HD: 11 | HP: 46-73 | AC/EV: 4/16 | Dam: 603(constrict), 30, 1, 20 | Res: 06magic(44) | Vul: 11silver | XP: 1112 | Sp: swiftness [11!AM, 06!sil] | Sz: Large | Int: animal. 15:50:51 %??anaconda-alligator-bat chimera 15:51:00 anyway that's a speed 24 chimera 15:51:04 which seems good 15:51:12 ...and it has swiftness from the alligator head, hahaha 15:51:19 anaconda (15S) | Spd: 18 | HD: 11 | HP: 49-73 | AC/EV: 4/16 | Dam: 603(constrict), 20 | amphibious, cold-blooded | Res: 06magic(40), 12drown | XP: 923 | Sz: Large | Int: reptile. 15:51:19 %??anaconda 15:52:03 Its kind have acclimated to the desolate wastes 15:52:03 +of Cocytus, and a terrible chill now surrounds them.o 15:52:44 -!- Z_LAMP has quit [Client Quit] 15:52:46 ya |amethyst mentioned that 15:52:50 and then we discovered the .o function 15:52:57 which remains slightly mysterious 15:53:02 I'm gonna fix it when I get home 15:53:07 and add an EXCITING SPRITE and things 15:53:26 wheals do you know about .o 15:53:37 will you recolour your sprite to use for caustics 15:53:43 or are they not bees anymore 15:53:49 .o 15:53:50 2. episteme, XL26 FoFi, T:59408 requested for FooTV (telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org). 15:53:53 !cmd .o 15:53:53 Command: .o => !lg * ((tiles || !@hugeterm)) kmap=minmay_octagon_city ntv=0 -tv 15:53:58 i did not 15:53:59 tbh I figured my sprite would be a recoloured raven 15:54:00 i bet minmay did 15:54:05 I suspect so, yes :) 15:54:40 -!- Ratboiler has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:54:42 (and yeah caustics are still bees) 15:54:56 clearly rename them back to bees to make room for my masterpiece!!!! 15:55:03 wait gammafunk 15:55:05 wait 15:55:10 hit ctrl-x again pls 15:55:46 -!- TMTurtle_ has quit [Quit: leaving] 15:57:18 sorr, where? 15:57:30 the next time you're in LOS of an injured moster 15:57:31 *monster 15:57:54 also, whatcha gonna do now? 15:58:01 probaly v:5 15:58:05 try to bribe zot 15:58:07 how's your stealth? 15:58:07 see what happens 15:58:11 my what 15:58:14 I wonder if abyss might be better 15:58:21 I have bribe funds 15:58:23 left for V 15:58:24 true 15:58:27 and I have ctele 15:58:32 and immo and evokers 15:58:35 so should be fine 15:58:39 aight 15:59:19 03wheals02 07* 0.16-a0-2566-g0fdfb34: Tweak Regen's desc. 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=0fdfb343d7e5 15:59:35 also I agree 15:59:39 rmsl is pretty silly still 15:59:40 unnatural acts, huh 16:00:16 -!- Nunya has joined ##crawl-dev 16:00:27 wheals: imo fix bribe branch's description 16:01:10 ah, i see 16:01:20 -!- Krakhan has quit [Changing host] 16:02:00 03wheals02 07* 0.16-a0-2567-g6865abd: Fix Bribe Branch's description's grammar (PleasingFungus). 10(36 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=6865abd47750 16:02:17 np 16:02:56 haha, take that, gammafunk! 16:03:19 Hello, dungeon crawlers! So I've recently discovered and love DCSS. I've learned it's a result of development of an older roguelike and is sorta open source and I'd like to play around with the code and see what kind of fun I can have behind the scenes. 16:03:20 I've done a bit of searching, but is there a handy resource I could use to learn about DCSS' code? I'm sure I have to clone from the github repo, but what I'm really looking for is explanation of classes/scripts/whatever. 16:03:41 Here we go. Found this https://crawl.develz.org/wiki/doku.php?id=dcss:start. Seems like this is all the info you'd need. 16:03:46 that commit credit... 16:03:48 I'm not sure what to tell this person ^ 16:03:54 gammafunk: ha ha ha ha 16:04:04 Grunt: what does ENCH_PERMA_BRIBED mean? 16:04:06 doxygen I guess? 16:07:41 didn't get all that much out of those last bribe funds 16:08:03 so i guess ENCH_PERMA_BRIBED means the friendly kind and ENCH_BRIBED is the neutral kind? 16:08:05 -!- NotKintak has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:08:19 I think so? 16:08:28 there used to be more differences 16:08:31 let me find this, sorry 16:09:27 -!- Sharkman1231 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:09:40 -!- zeia has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:11:09 %git b2ba46968251 16:11:09 07Grunt02 * 0.15-a0-1247-gb2ba469: Time out friendly bribed monsters like neutral bribed monsters (dpeg). 10(6 months ago, 2 files, 4+ 46-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=b2ba46968251 16:11:18 wheals: ^ 16:11:23 so i guess it is just a bad name 16:11:25 now 16:11:35 ya 16:12:57 -!- Isabel has quit [Quit: Wah] 16:13:05 Isvaffel (L6 DEFE) ASSERT((int)Buffer.size() == expanded_keys_left) in 'macro.cc' at line 543 failed. (D:3) 16:15:29 -!- Pacra has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 16:17:50 -!- Nunya has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91 [Firefox 33.1.1/20141113143407]] 16:18:59 !tell Grunt what's the point of setting a prop on monsters that will be bribed, and then putting the ench on them, rather than putting the ench on in the beginning? 16:19:00 wheals: OK, I'll let grunt know. 16:19:36 !tell Grunt not to sound confrontational, i'm sure there's a good reason 16:19:36 wheals: OK, I'll let grunt know. 16:20:17 -!- pwnmonkey has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:21:33 -!- syllogism has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 16:21:43 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 16:26:54 nice, disto warden made peaceful 16:27:40 Wiki's cookie crumb is quite long after 2 levels: rename " Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup " to DCSS or Crawl 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9238 by RoGGa 16:28:27 who has cookies?! 16:31:26 -!- CcS has quit [] 16:32:05 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:32:37 "cookies are a sometimes food" >.> 16:32:58 wtf? the monsters you see on emp aren't remembered on the X map after it ends 16:33:00 apparently 16:33:39 gammafunk: it seems like salamander hide might be good for this char. 16:34:03 no I'd like to keep my ac/gdr 16:34:09 -!- ElanMorin has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.0.1] 16:34:09 the gdr cost...! 16:34:12 what ar eyou wearing 16:34:19 just some arte scale 16:34:30 ahh 16:34:32 well, w/e 16:34:34 sadly armour shops didn't delive, dragon king armour but I don't have good str for it 16:37:06 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 16:38:23 it's weird 16:38:29 what does the bribe check? 16:38:30 [master dddffff] bugfix <-- nice sha, but I have to squash it :( 16:38:43 a lot of p get bribed 16:38:45 but not other things 16:38:56 is it only designated inhabitants? 16:39:15 -!- kazimuth has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 16:39:35 yes 16:39:39 ah that's why 16:39:39 !source mons_bribability 16:39:40 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/godabil.cc;hb=HEAD#l4440 16:39:48 hopefully I bribe an oof 16:40:07 you only get draconians in zot :p 16:40:13 laaaame 16:40:13 Not even klowns! They're incorruptable! 16:40:23 that's silly, why not klown? 16:40:33 Because klowning is its own reward. 16:41:55 they all take klownopin? 16:42:18 how you add a redirect to learndb? 16:42:26 -!- ibar has quit [Quit: leaving] 16:42:55 1learn add foo see {bar} 16:43:01 does anyone have any good gdb guides? 16:43:52 the braces are required; "bar" can use spaces or underscores and may have a [2] or whatever (but not [string] for searching, that's handled specially by sequell) 16:44:04 !learn add 🐌 see gastronok 16:44:05 🐌[1/1]: see gastronok 16:44:30 ??🐌 16:44:30 🐌[1/1]: see gastronok 16:44:46 -!- Mazed has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:44:47 !learn del 🐌 16:44:48 Deleted 🐌[1/1]: see gastronok 16:44:53 !learn add 🐌 see {gastronok} 16:44:54 🐌[1/1]: see {gastronok} 16:44:58 ??🐌 16:44:59 gastronok[1/7]: A greedy elephant slug who ate a wizard for lunch and now casts spells! Casts airstrike, spammals, swiftness, slow, and 'slugform'-flavoured cantrip. You feel sluggish! He's even smart enough to open doors! HD 20 means he has a 95% chance of just ignoring your mephitic clouds. Has a hat, sometimes the {hat of pondering}. 16:46:30 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:47:54 ...what 16:48:10 geeze 16:49:17 hm, i think that implementing announcement of sleeping bribed monsters should be easy, but i'm not sure what messages to give 16:50:26 -!- edlothiol has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:52:36 -!- siepu has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:52:54 i'll just make this change for now 16:53:11 "You see a bag of Gozag's coins on the {genus}'s person" 16:53:19 hehe 16:53:37 03wheals02 07* 0.16-a0-2568-g6e0b792: Make monsters indifferent on bribe end, rather than hostile (dpeg). 10(6 minutes ago, 1 file, 7+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=6e0b792ebbfc 16:53:46 really i'm more waiting right now to hear back from Grunt about the implemenation 16:53:49 +t 16:54:15 I wonder how ghosts carry bags of coins 16:54:17 -!- AGinsberg has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:54:33 they're spooky coins 16:55:17 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:58:22 -!- foophykins has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:58:30 ??bribe 16:58:31 I don't have a page labeled bribe in my learndb. 16:58:34 ??bribe branch 16:58:35 I don't have a page labeled bribe_branch in my learndb. 16:59:24 lazy players haven't written docs 17:01:28 -!- link_108 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 17:02:30 -!- kazimuth has quit [Quit: ciao, y'all :] 17:02:57 !learn add bribe_branch Gozag ability, costs $3000. While active, monsters have a chance to become either friendly or "good-neutral" (like freed slaves) when seeing you, until your money wears out, upon which time they become pacified. 17:02:58 bribe branch[1/1]: Gozag ability, costs $3000. While active, monsters have a chance to become either friendly or "good-neutral" (like freed slaves) when seeing you, until your money wears out, upon which time they become pacified. 17:03:04 !learn add bribe see {bribe branch} 17:03:04 bribe[1/1]: see {bribe branch} 17:03:05 Unstable branch on crawl.lantea.net updated to: 0.16-a0-2568-g6e0b792 (34) 17:03:26 !learn e gozag s/bribe branch/{bribe branch} 17:03:27 Use: !learn edit gozag[NUM] s/// 17:03:28 I can't really say that bribe branch is really worth the cost 17:03:30 !learn e gozag[1] s/bribe branch/{bribe branch} 17:03:31 gozag[1/3]: The greedy god of gold. Turns corpses into gold, may cause enemies to lose turns when fighting next to corpse-gold, lets you use {potion petition}, lets you create shops, {bribe branch}es, and duplicate a non-artefact item once. Does not have a normal piety system. 17:03:39 what else would you do with the cash 17:03:50 potion petition in my case 17:03:54 but shops otherwise 17:04:07 definitely more useful than shops 17:04:10 but I mean it's not terribly good for his top-tier ability 17:04:10 ime 17:04:32 what did I get out of bribing zot? 17:04:39 a few harmless monsters became neutral 17:04:48 -!- ldf_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 17:04:51 a pack became friendly, but then I had to fight them on z:5 17:04:58 -!- Monkaria has quit [Client Quit] 17:05:06 why would you fight them? did you attack them by accident? 17:05:09 for vaults it wasn't terribly effective 17:05:12 no they became hostile 17:05:16 weird 17:05:18 probably since the bribe fund? 17:05:22 is your server not up to date? 17:05:23 I went off level to explore a bit 17:05:28 came back and they hated me 17:05:34 -!- _Jordan_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:05:37 either that or my pack got killed 17:05:41 and those were other dracs 17:05:41 or did you play this more than 10 minutes ago i guess 17:05:54 I've been playing for like 3 hours 17:05:55 wheals: what you're describing was my original implementation; the idea with the current implementation is that you can see the monster change as soon as it notices you and you get the lovely messages saying so. 17:05:58 haaven't transfered 17:06:26 yeah i'm dumb 17:06:39 ??dumb 17:06:40 gammafunk[6/11]: <|amethyst> that's dumb 17:06:41 Grunt: hm, i see 17:06:45 1learn add wheals 17:06:59 wheals: ask dpeg; this way was his idea :) 17:07:04 the message could work with using MF_SEEN, but not really the attitude change 17:07:45 Oh, on the attitude change note: 17:08:09 17:08:10 -!- HDA has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:08:19 you don't want it before they see you because otherwise everything kills each other offscreen and it's boring. 17:08:31 Also, 17:08:32 17:08:38 !send Grunt GONNNNNNG 17:08:39 Sending GONNNNNNG to Grunt. 17:08:54 !send wheals the +18 shield of the gong 17:08:54 PTOANNNG! 17:08:54 Sending the +18 shield of the gong to wheals. 17:09:11 -!- muravey has quit [Quit: Be back later ...] 17:09:22 i suppose this implementation is fine 17:09:43 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 17:09:54 i guess i should rename ENCH_PERMA_BRIBE though 17:10:06 +D 17:10:19 -!- xen has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:10:25 or you could!!! 17:10:38 I'm not home yet <_< 17:10:39 -!- link_108 has joined ##crawl-dev 17:10:42 -!- markgo has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:10:48 !send Grunt chains 17:10:49 Sending chains to Grunt. 17:10:50 -!- JuicyPear has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:11:02 and I have more important things to work on like fixing SDL2 mixer issues 17:11:17 sounds like 17:11:18 tiles 17:11:40 and that caps lock thing which I suspect is a one line fix 17:12:02 ??tiles[11 17:12:03 tiles[11/16]: _The iron imp shouts, "Scamper hence, thou jarring miscreant tiler!" 17:13:12 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:13:33 fr: Sequell command for imp speech 17:13:52 !taunt or !demontaunt 17:13:59 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 17:14:07 * Grunt heads home. 17:14:13 also add taunts for player ds 17:14:15 and monster ds 17:14:31 they have to be only half as random for Ds 17:14:40 biologically speaking 17:14:45 -!- flatmate has quit [Client Quit] 17:15:43 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 17:16:28 -!- Finwe^ is now known as Finwe 17:16:33 -!- st_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:16:41 -!- Finwe is now known as Finwe^ 17:17:08 -!- Nightbeer has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 17:17:09 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 17:17:15 -!- Kramin has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:17:32 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 17:23:18 -!- mamgar has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 17:23:33 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:27:14 -!- Blazinghand|Work has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:28:07 -!- lyrick has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:28:32 !learn add travispoke http://tozt.net/crawl/ 17:28:32 travispoke[1/1]: http://tozt.net/crawl/ 17:29:14 03doy02 07[segfault-debug] * 0.16-a0-2569-g4a20be2: Revert "disable snake-rune for now, to try to make travis more reliable" 10(31 hours ago, 1 file, 0+ 4-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=4a20be2b7a57 17:29:14 03doy02 07[segfault-debug] * 0.16-a0-2570-gd9a7bca: add some debugging output 10(31 hours ago, 1 file, 35+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=d9a7bca55866 17:29:14 03doy02 07[segfault-debug] * 0.16-a0-2571-gc5ab5b9: save displayed messages and write them to the logs 10(31 hours ago, 2 files, 8+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=c5ab5b99def0 17:29:14 03doy02 07[segfault-debug] * 0.16-a0-2572-g2ecef1b: try again? 10(in the future, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=2ecef1b5afd1 17:29:57 -!- witty_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:29:57 -!- witty has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:31:38 -!- Whistling_Beard has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:31:57 what's the syntax of arrays in mon-pick-data.h? 17:32:01 * Grunt pushes doy. 17:32:20 (in the future 17:32:51 doy, bringing us the future of crawl development 17:33:40 chequers: you mean the { 0, 10, 1000, FLAT, MONS_BAT } lines? 17:33:49 chequers: see random-pick.h 17:34:21 ta 17:35:11 -!- Crehl has quit [Quit: Killed by a kitten] 17:38:22 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 17:38:22 The build was broken. (master - 6865abd #652 : Shmuale Mark): http://travis-ci.org/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/builds/41652291 17:38:22 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 17:39:05 oh 17:39:08 "umbral weaver" 17:39:13 why did it take me so long to think of that 17:39:26 no Wiki section for non-game related topics 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9239 by RoGGa 17:41:07 -!- Z_LAMP has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:41:18 Grunt: ! 17:41:23 why do we have a sourceforge page 17:41:29 bh: I was wondering that too 17:41:39 bh: historic reasons, and file storage 17:41:46 and why is our mailing list still on sourceforge 17:42:33 Zannick: well, they run those clever little ads at the bottom of each message 17:42:48 bh: yeah, i know. they're annoying. do we get a cut? 17:42:53 by putting our mailing list on sourceforge, we're supporting opensauce! you want to support opensauce, don't you? 17:42:54 wheals: fwiw I was thinking of re-allowing multibribes for enemies (reverting the commit I mentioned), since the one cool experience I had with bribe branch involved repeatedly bribing a guy (a red draconian monk, which murdered half of zot for me) 17:43:06 wheals: but I decided I don't understand bribe branch well enough to decide whether that was a good idea 17:43:10 wheals: possibly you do? 17:43:22 what did dpeg think? 17:43:37 dpeg was either fine with the idea or encouraged it, I forget 17:43:56 with the addendum that permabribed allies shouldn't be allowed to wander out of their home branch 17:44:06 oh right, yeah 17:44:08 PleasingFungus: the latter 17:44:17 PleasingFungus: he spelled it out in one of his crd emails :) 17:44:31 (i.e. he encouraged it) 17:44:33 Grunt: ah, was this in the very recent one? 17:44:38 I think so? 17:44:40 I know we talked about it before then... 17:44:46 w/e, doesn't matter 17:44:56 i guess perma-bribed makes even less sense there 17:44:58 in a way 17:45:07 the name of the ench, that is 17:45:47 hm. I don't see anything like that in his current email 17:46:02 hm I know he mentioned it in an e-mail at some point 17:46:22 plausible 17:46:48 -!- Limulus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:47:16 anyway, it sounds good to me 17:47:41 especially assuming we still keep that it won't become hostile if you can't pay 17:47:47 (just indifferent0 17:47:48 ) 17:48:14 ya 17:48:28 so many gozag buffs. surely soon he'll be overpowered 17:49:35 !lg . 17:49:35 2383. gammafunk the Warrior (L26 MuGl of Gozag), escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2014-11-20 23:47:02, with 1348127 points after 113723 turns and 11:07:40. 17:49:42 !hs gammafunk mu 17:49:43 13. gammafunk the Warrior (L26 MuGl of Gozag), escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2014-11-20 23:47:02, with 1348127 points after 113723 turns and 11:07:40. 17:49:48 !hs gammafunk !sif 17:49:48 1747. gammafunk the Middleweight Champion (L27 DrMo of The Shining One), escaped with the Orb and 15 runes on 2013-04-09 03:59:31, with 12440597 points after 129850 turns and 21:48:14. 17:49:52 heh 17:49:57 congrats btw :) 17:50:01 ty 17:50:12 -!- Mazed has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 17:50:14 I am about to win a ghoul. 17:50:16 I can feel it. 17:50:21 !lm PleasingFungus 17:50:22 5780. [2014-11-20 18:18:31] PleasingFungus the Destroyer (L11 HuWn of Sif Muna) killed Fannar on turn 9202. (Lair:1) 17:50:30 hu is just gh backwards. 17:50:41 unundead gh 17:51:07 huh, I've actually already won a huwn 17:51:10 I forgot about that 17:51:45 !lg . -log 17:51:45 2383. gammafunk, XL26 MuGl, T:113723: http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/gammafunk/morgue-gammafunk-20141120-234702.txt 17:52:02 3 orbs of fire (Zot:5) 17:52:03 5 ancient liches (Zot:5) 17:52:06 aaaaanndd.... 17:52:10 9 caustic shrikes 17:52:20 how many kolourful klowns 17:52:20 fr: zot:5 caustic shrikes 17:52:34 one killer p, and I ran from one on the orb run 17:53:14 18 Orb Guardians 17:53:25 so...a few orb guardians not on z:5 17:53:34 yeah 17:53:39 just a few on the orb run 17:53:41 most games have them 17:55:05 -!- stanzill has quit [Quit: nachtli] 17:55:39 -!- Bloax has quit [Quit: Error: Bloax not found] 17:58:38 -!- Mazed has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:00:18 gammafunk: How would you rate your shrike experience? 10/10, would shrike again? 18:00:52 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 18:01:02 caustic/10 18:01:08 -!- HDA has joined ##crawl-dev 18:01:58 Lasty: well they do kind of function like a unique 18:02:27 every fight with them was Go Big, All The Stops but my char was also weaker than most 18:03:01 I used all my vuln scrolls on them, I think 18:03:27 neat 18:07:23 -!- flowsnake has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:08:16 it's funny how we're fulfilling that rule in video games 18:08:25 where birds are the most damaging enemy 18:08:45 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 18:09:01 or at least among the most dangerous 18:09:15 everyone knows bees should be the most dangerous. 18:09:18 !send gammafunk giant eagles 18:09:18 Sending giant eagles to gammafunk. 18:09:30 !lg eagle lair:1 18:09:31 5. eagle the Cleaver (L11 GrCK of Xom), slain by a caustic shrike on Lair:1 on 2014-11-19 10:34:09, with 7230 points after 9355 turns and 0:51:29. 18:09:43 -!- flowsnake has joined ##crawl-dev 18:11:09 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Saindo] 18:16:39 -!- serq has quit [Quit: und weg...] 18:18:04 03Grunt02 07* 0.16-a0-2569-g04985d4: Make sound support / building against SDL2_mixer compile-time optional. 10(5 minutes ago, 5 files, 34+ 8-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=04985d4ec976 18:18:06 gammafunk: 18:18:13 relevant for you possibly 18:19:11 SOUND=nothanks 18:19:50 wheals: you mean 18:19:51 SOUND= 18:19:52 18:20:01 does that work? 18:20:06 I think so! 18:20:11 (it's that value by default anyway) 18:20:33 SOUND=!!! 18:29:01 !lg * ikiller=robin ckaux~~thrown 18:29:02 No games for * (ikiller=robin ckaux~~thrown). 18:29:05 SOUND=wtf 18:29:09 !lg * ikiller=robin kaux~~thrown 18:29:10 2. spelunker the Skirmisher (L3 VSBe of Trog), hit from afar by Robin (goblin) on D:3 on 2014-11-20 17:41:13, with 44 points after 249 turns and 0:01:10. 18:29:14 PleasingFungus: have you seen!!!! 18:29:23 !lg * ikiller=robin kaux~~thrown x=ckaux 18:29:24 2. [ckaux=goblin] spelunker the Skirmisher (L3 VSBe of Trog), hit from afar by Robin (goblin) on D:3 on 2014-11-20 17:41:13, with 44 points after 249 turns and 0:01:10. 18:29:25 !lg * ikiller=robin kaux~~goblin_thrown -tv 18:29:26 2. spelunker, XL3 VSBe, T:249 requested for FooTV (telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org). 18:30:24 good play 18:30:28 <3 18:30:46 seriously wtf 18:34:24 The GOBLIN BEAM misses you. 18:34:29 good thing you fixed that PleasingFungus 18:34:30 :) 18:34:34 %git HEAD^{/GOBLIN BEAM} 18:34:34 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.16-a0-2565-g1d3f5c8: Revert "Temporarily remove the GOBLIN BEAM" (Grunt) 10(8 hours ago, 1 file, 15+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=1d3f5c86fdf3 18:34:43 -!- Zilis is now known as Guest80755 18:35:42 wheals: ah, what a time to be AFK 18:35:50 !lg * ikiller=robin kaux~~goblin_thrown -tv 18:35:51 2. spelunker, XL3 VSBe, T:249 requested for FooTV (telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org). 18:36:01 !killratio robin * 18:36:03 robin wins 12.88% of battles. 18:36:06 dang 18:36:38 -!- Nakatomy has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:37:14 man, "throws the goblin at you" is not a great message. or at least, it needs a corresponding hit message. 18:37:15 -!- Guest28408 has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 18:37:20 PleasingFungus: it has one now! 18:37:26 PleasingFungus: that was the other point of that beam change 18:37:27 :) 18:38:03 -!- Whistling_Bread has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 18:38:19 "the goblin hits you" is an amusingly ambiguous message 18:39:00 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:39:21 I wonder if thrown goblins should have their energy reset to 0. 18:40:56 Grunt: i wanted to do that with the beam change 18:41:04 Grunt: the problem is, "The Ijyb hits you!" 18:41:17 hm it doesn't actually show the hit message 18:41:23 oh, good 18:42:10 03Grunt02 07* 0.16-a0-2570-gb8c5edc: Properly ifdef out a couple of sound playback calls. 10(3 minutes ago, 2 files, 6+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=b8c5edc8f47f 18:42:12 !source beam.cc:3277 18:42:12 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/beam.cc;hb=HEAD#l3277 18:42:36 although i made that method exit out early if it is visual 18:42:59 !blame wheals 18:42:59 I pronounce wheals... Guilty! 18:43:02 wwwhhheeeaaalllsss 18:43:06 so i'm very confused 18:43:16 * wheals gazes into the beam code. wheals is confused. 18:43:38 !send beam.cc wheals 18:43:38 Sending wheals to beam.cc. 18:43:47 Grunt: a fate worse than KILL_YOU... 18:44:01 !send KILL_MISC PleasingFungus 18:44:02 Sending PleasingFungus to KILL_MISC. 18:44:14 !send Grunt KILL_MISCast 18:44:15 Sending KILL_MISCast to Grunt. 18:44:20 d a n g 18:47:59 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 18:48:15 !crashlog frest 18:48:16 1. frest, XL15 DDFi, T:22376 (milestone): http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/frest/crash-frest-20141120-182406.txt 18:48:45 !seen |amethyst 18:48:45 I last saw |amethyst at Thu Nov 20 19:57:53 2014 UTC (4h 50m 52s ago) saying 's/forever/essentially &/' on ##crawl-dev. 18:49:06 http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl-anc.git;a=blob;f=builder2.cpp;h=56a96863#l2340 18:49:07 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 18:49:50 Grunt: have you heard all this stuff about macros being broken by the sdl2 switchover? 18:50:25 wheals: somehow it seems appropriate that it ends in a labyrinth. 18:50:54 wheals: case 15: // book of necromancy - not much here yet (just wait until I do monster corpses!) 18:51:04 func_pass [6] = 3; // noise - but this isn't very useful??? 18:51:08 i just thought that particular section of the file was good 18:51:19 oh I didn't realize you linked to a specific part 18:51:28 huh, rods were originally staves 18:51:46 i think that's angbandy 18:52:11 funny to see which things are that ancient. 18:52:35 rakshasa, unseen horror, kobold demonologist. 18:52:46 kobold lord 18:52:48 wandering mushroom. 18:53:04 giant orange brain. 18:53:53 -!- Guest80755 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:54:02 71 -The way that spellbooks work may be confusing. It's basically like this: Each 18:54:03 72 type of spellbook (book of minor magic, ice, etc) has a template consisting of 18:54:03 73 up to six spells. Each individual book has, stored in its item_plus variable, 18:54:03 74 an 8 bit number which, when converted to binary through itoa(n, str, 2); gives 18:54:03 75 which spells are present and which are not. Spell staves have the template, 18:54:03 76 but always have all appropriate spells. 18:54:25 he reinvented bitfields... 18:54:28 <3 18:55:36 Replace those mons_thing and item_thing variables with structs - if anyone knows what a struct is and how to use it, please tell me; 18:55:43 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 18:55:47 !send thingy_vault wheals 18:55:47 Sending wheals to thingy_vault. 18:55:48 oh my god 18:55:50 is that really in there 18:56:37 i like how he would have put everything in one file, but it was over 64k 18:56:45 r i p 18:56:47 so that was the only reason he couldn't 18:57:03 yesss 18:57:44 imagine what this code would have been like if he had stopped reading the manual a chapter or two earlier, and not seen switch statements 18:57:51 aaaa 18:57:59 bbbb 18:58:01 I like how case 25 and 51 return "zombie" 18:58:07 unless "many_many < 60" 18:58:13 The Code That Would Not Die 18:58:15 in which case it returns what appears to be a hellion 18:58:30 wow, GooE! 18:59:01 a gooe-y mess? 18:59:04 ah, i thought i had a copy of the borland C++ manual 18:59:09 but actually i have the C one 18:59:39 wow, there really was a random3 18:59:39 fr a "gooey mess" !!! message 19:00:40 haha, page 213: Pitfalls in C Programming: Forgetting the break in switch statements 19:00:45 augh 19:00:55 Grunt: I'm gonna implement that if you don't stop me 19:01:04 * Grunt goads PleasingFungus on! 19:01:18 case 13: // nymph??? 19:01:25 mons_speed_inc [k] = 7; // Look at this one! 19:01:44 mons_ev [k] = 13;//gmon_ev [2]; // Look at this one!! 19:01:54 mons_AC [k] = 3;//gmon_AC [2]; // Look at this one!!! 19:01:57 just getting more excited over time 19:01:59 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 19:02:33 if (mons_sec [k] == 250) // I don't see why it wouldn't be 19:02:33 Grunt: replace macabre masses with gooey messes 19:02:33 mons_sec [k] = random3(4) + 20; 19:03:17 kobold lords had 5 hd, and 15-40 HP. 3 AC, 14 EV. 19:03:20 big kobold (08K) | Spd: 10 | HD: 5 | HP: 17-37 | AC/EV: 3/12 | Dam: 7 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors | Res: 06magic(20) | Chunks: 09poison | XP: 98 | Sz: Medium | Int: normal. 19:03:20 %??big kobold 19:03:24 hello. 19:03:56 fr kobold lords, appear only in the "tavern" branch 19:04:09 case MWATER2: // electronic eel 19:04:12 -!- Mazed has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:04:37 PleasingFungus: nanotech manipulators! 19:04:53 -the MLAVA and MWATER macros are for lava and water monsters, so I can change their values easily. 19:04:58 i love how he has to explain this 19:05:08 like he's defending himself for not using numbers 19:05:21 or apologising 19:05:23 ya 19:05:37 there is, or was until very recently, a similar comment on a function in... spl-damage, I think 19:05:40 !source spl-damage.cc 19:05:41 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/spl-damage.cc;hb=HEAD 19:06:05 !source spl-damage.cc:1038 19:06:05 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/spl-damage.cc;hb=HEAD#l1038 19:06:14 ^ 19:06:16 -!- weezeface has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:06:48 ok, I am going to stop reading this, because I just got to item generation code and am terrified that I will encounter pieces I recognize. 19:07:38 ...xuaxua has admin rights on devwiki? 19:07:38 I'm out. 19:07:40 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91 [Firefox 36.0a1/20141118030201]] 19:07:41 !send PleasingFungus a function that does too much 19:07:42 Sending a function that does too much to PleasingFungus. 19:08:03 aaargh why use NON_MONSTER for both player and nothing 19:11:11 -!- schistosoma has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:11:17 -!- weezeface has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 19:13:51 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 19:17:35 -!- link_108 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 19:19:05 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:19:22 'case INTEGER' is basically an anti-pattern in crawlcode 19:19:33 case bh: 19:19:35 rip(); 19:21:18 I'm not a number, I'm an enum! 19:23:06 enum baddevs { 19:23:46 http://sprunge.us/aTKi -- [PATCH] More artefact names 19:26:08 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 19:29:24 Grunt: Do you know why we have class WindowManager and class SDLWrapper instead of just one? 19:30:20 %git 2df94739 19:30:20 Could not find commit 2df94739 (git returned 128) 19:30:20 hm 19:30:21 er 19:30:27 %git 2d94739 19:30:30 07Ixtli02 {Enne} * 0.7.0-a0-1416-g2d94739: Modified uiwrapper to be an abstract base class. 10(4 years, 8 months ago, 8 files, 125+ 73-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=2d947390ab4d 19:31:25 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 19:31:55 %git e0d505c 19:31:55 07Ixtli02 {Enne} * 0.7.0-a0-1371-ge0d505c: Initial commit of uiwrapper-sdl files 10(4 years, 9 months ago, 2 files, 591+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=e0d505c53595 19:31:58 I guess they were trying to think ahead, but it's kind of silly since it's all these virtual methods and there's only ever one class inheriting from WindowManager, which is always used when WindowManager is 19:32:10 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 19:32:11 The build has errored. (master - 04985d4 #655 : Steve Melenchuk): http://travis-ci.org/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/builds/41665566 19:32:11 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 19:32:18 w h a t 19:32:32 oh 19:32:33 right 19:32:35 alraedy dealt with that 19:32:38 s/ae/ea/ 19:32:43 -!- Piginabag has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:34:01 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 19:34:01 The build has errored. 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ZZZzzz…] 20:00:55 <|amethyst> reaverb: hm, works for me on Linux tiles and console 20:01:04 -!- Sharkman1231 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:01:22 |amethyst: Huh, that's odd. 20:01:48 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 20:03:04 Hmm, shift-tab gives me a differant command than hit_closest_nomove. Maybe its something on my end? 20:04:13 -!- bullock has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:04:55 <|amethyst> reaverb: what is it doing? 20:05:05 <|amethyst> reaverb: and is this console or tiles? 20:05:14 This is console. 20:05:24 <|amethyst> what OS and what terminal? 20:05:29 It's \{27}[Z 20:05:35 <|amethyst> hm 20:05:47 Mac OS X, just the apple terminal. 20:05:47 <|amethyst> yeah, that's the keysequence that shift-tab usually sends 20:05:48 wheals: it would be cool if we had some nice mapping between monsters, hides, and armours 20:05:51 for trolls & dragons 20:05:54 ^ 20:05:56 similar to what you did for tentacles 20:06:01 but it'd be more complex. 20:06:17 hm. I wonder if I could implement this. 20:06:26 that reminds me, i should add some COMPILE_CHECKs 20:06:38 for example, that the first two arrays should be the same size 20:06:40 -!- Blomdor has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:07:13 |amethyst: anyway, what Crawl does is one of the informative commands (the one that lists all slots) and then casts a spell (??) 20:07:14 Ralp (L3 OpTm) (D:2) 20:07:14 -!- tabstorm has joined ##crawl-dev 20:07:17 ...fr, a monster with tentacles but no segments? 20:07:52 <|amethyst> reaverb: hm... somehow curses isn't recognizing that escape sequence as a single key 20:08:06 |amethyst: Hmm. 20:08:08 <|amethyst> reaverb: two things to check in your terminal: 1. echo $TERM 2: tput kcbt | cat -A 20:08:23 could the SDL have caused problems with curses? 20:08:34 It's quite possible the shift-tab never worked 20:08:43 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.16-a0-2573-g8053d14: Tweak a randart description 10(4 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=8053d141c134 20:08:46 <|amethyst> (the second asks "what does your terminal definition say is the escape sequence for shift-tab?") 20:09:03 PleasingFungus: knew someone was going to do that 20:09:08 "cat: illegal option -- A" 20:09:10 <|amethyst> oh 20:09:21 * Grunt tentacle-slaps wheals but does no damage. 20:09:22 Why does apple do this. 20:09:23 <|amethyst> reaverb: use | od -c instead then 20:09:31 <|amethyst> I forgot OS X doesn't have gnu cat 20:09:46 when you think of a randart word how do you decide what categories it goes in 20:09:51 PleasingFungus: but what happens when we get randart runes 20:09:57 Is that command "tput kcbt | od -c" 20:10:00 <|amethyst> reaverb: yeah 20:10:07 There's no ouput. 20:10:10 <|amethyst> nicolae-: "spiked" would be bad for weapons for example, because "spiked club" 20:10:18 fwiw shift-tab works fine for me here 20:10:24 wheals: I will burn that bridge when I come to it. 20:10:32 <|amethyst> reaverb: ah, so your terminal definition doesn't specify the sequence for shift-tab 20:10:39 <|amethyst> reaverb: what does echo $TERM say? 20:10:54 xterm-color 20:11:10 $ util/checkwhite 20:11:10 Can't read android-project/jni/mikmod 20:11:10 Can't read android-project/jni/smpeg 20:11:10 Can't read android-project/jni/webp 20:11:33 wheals: git submodule update --init 20:11:47 <|amethyst> well 20:11:49 aah, i don't think i had them before 20:11:53 and i don't need them... 20:11:55 <|amethyst> checkwhite probably shouldn't do that though 20:12:40 So the "shift-tab" problem is unrelated to the "macros don't appear to work" problem, good to know :D 20:13:45 Yeah, found a mix for the mac terminal shift-tab issue, will try it out. 20:13:51 s/mix/fix/ 20:14:09 03|amethyst02 07* 0.16-a0-2574-gfd74369: Skip symlinks in checkwhite. 10(48 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=fd7436922d60 20:14:16 <|amethyst> wheals: does that fix it? 20:15:58 |amethyst: ah, makes sense. i should think up a list of artifact names, i've had a few floating around for a while 20:16:08 it'll take my mind off vaults 20:16:14 spiky 20:16:32 |amethyst: yep 20:16:43 though i might have downloaded the contribs by running Grunt's command 20:17:17 -!- winlu has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:19:11 -!- domiryuu has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:19:16 03wheals02 07* 0.16-a0-2575-g739d32a: More tentacle code improvements. 10(9 minutes ago, 5 files, 30+ 26-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=739d32a0955b 20:19:16 03wheals02 07* 0.16-a0-2576-g2a6b965: Add two compile checks on array sizes. 10(4 minutes ago, 2 files, 4+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=2a6b965d4151 20:19:19 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20:20:16 * Grunt slaps wheals but does no damage. 20:21:32 -!- Zermako_ has quit [] 20:22:56 -!- TangoBravo has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:23:09 finally, i can now implement tunnelling worms 20:23:14 ! 20:23:30 they seem to be the only 1.1 monster not present in dcss 0.1 20:23:33 * Grunt hears a grinding noise. 20:23:46 though which monsters are present in 1.1 is not quite clear :P 20:24:01 hm 20:24:03 What were tunnelling words? 20:24:09 s/words/worms/ 20:24:23 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.16-a0-2577-gb23d263: Yet more whitespace tweaks 10(4 minutes ago, 1 file, 3+ 6-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=b23d263f00d3 20:24:26 they sound like boring beetles 20:24:31 (tunnelling worms are multi-segmented worms which are like Hack's long worms, only with more mobility and the ability to chew through rock) 20:24:34 nicolae-: yup! 20:24:40 neat 20:24:59 maybe they could have a power to dig into the earth and pop out by surprise, leaving shafts in their wake 20:25:07 to really evoke that whole "this is a giant worm" feel 20:25:08 Why is it always worms which take up multiple tiles in roguelikes? They are rather small in RL :D 20:25:21 not always 20:25:27 i guess that boring beetles and rock worms are their descendents 20:25:43 <|amethyst> reaverb: Dune 20:25:48 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giant_Gippsland_earthworm 20:25:51 yeah, probably dune 20:25:55 <|amethyst> reaverb: (probably more Dune than Beetlejuice) 20:25:56 Haha, yeah I've never read Dune. 20:26:24 <|amethyst> neither have I 20:26:30 nicolae-: That's only one meter! Humans are bigger than one meter! 20:26:37 <|amethyst> but I have a copy of the Iron Maiden song "To Tame a Land" 20:26:41 <|amethyst> close enough, right? 20:26:52 a bat is one square, it's bigger than a bat, QED 20:26:54 <|amethyst> (they wanted to use "Dune" in the name, but Herbert refused) 20:27:01 also, re: gross giant worms http://io9.com/giant-worm-slurping-leech-filmed-for-the-first-time-1639845316 20:27:33 -!- hauzer has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:27:45 anyway, the important thing is that they drop teeth that you can enchant 20:27:48 I'm getting a weird thing in local tiles where each press on the numpad inputs two move orders 20:27:59 arrow keys work normally 20:28:04 will test console in a moment 20:28:34 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: seeing the same in local tiles 20:28:39 we can add enchantable teeth for the last dragon that nobody has any armour ideas for, komodos 20:28:49 obviously they'd inflict various toxins 20:29:04 curare, miasma, poison, etc 20:29:14 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: does pressing numlock make it work for you? 20:29:17 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: does for me 20:29:46 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: oh, but then 5 doesn't work to rest 20:30:02 -!- kazimuth has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 20:30:13 that would be weird, shouldn't it interpret numpad 5 as normal 5 in that case? 20:30:21 so it would rest, just like numrow 5? 20:30:34 or, do you mean turning numpad off 20:30:37 <|amethyst> oh 20:30:40 <|amethyst> I have it backwards 20:30:40 erm, numlock 20:30:41 <|amethyst> yeah 20:30:59 ah, don't pay me any mind 20:31:00 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: it looks like crawl sees two keypresses when numlock in on 20:31:07 direct all complaints etc. to Grunt 20:31:27 hm. console works fine 20:31:29 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: ~m NUM8 shows \{-254}8 20:32:18 !learn e ghost_crab[1] s/!tell.*/ Lives in Crypt in 0.15-, but has now migrated to Swamp as a mid-high tier spawn. 20:32:19 ghost crab[1/1]: A fire crab with {ghostly flames} instead of firey ones. Lives in Crypt in 0.15-, but has now migrated to Swamp as a mid-high tier spawn. 20:32:29 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: you can macro them away but of course that's not really what one wants to do 20:32:30 PleasingFungus: I just ran into Robin locally. He didn't get a chance to thow a goblin, but his battle cry boosted band almost killed me (partially because I forgot he had it and somehow missed all 4 messages informing me of it ???) 20:32:53 reaverb: are you in console 20:32:57 could robin be the next grinder 20:33:00 also, *she 20:33:00 PleasingFungus: Yes. 20:33:04 ha ha ha 20:33:06 Oh, drat. 20:33:09 it's very very obvious in tiles. 20:34:08 fr make grinder female 20:34:34 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.16-a0-2578-g8483f20: Improve combat messages slightly 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 5+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=8483f20f3955 20:34:55 """"slightly"""" 20:35:26 ?/ 20:35:26 No matches. 20:35:33 ?/orbofeyes\> 20:35:34 Matching entries (1): great_orb_of_eyes[3]: some day I will be a greater orb of eyes. 20:36:30 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/melee_attack.cc;hb=HEAD#l1650 20:36:38 |amethyst: strange that unbrace hasn't caught that 20:38:54 I am going to send Grunt 20:39:00 a lot of caustic shrikes 20:39:08 for using coord_def to represent pixels 20:40:04 PleasingFungus: methods for things like circlelos radius and grid distance! used in the representation of screen pixels!!!! 20:40:11 Why are orges specifically diced like onions? 20:40:22 i think it's an indirect shrek joke 20:40:26 correct 20:40:36 where he says "ogres are like onions, we have layers" 20:40:39 gammafunk: that's pretty funny 20:41:02 thanks wheals ! 20:41:09 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20:41:11 * chequers bakes wheals a cake 20:41:20 wheals: the cake is a lie 20:41:30 * wheals eats the delicious lies 20:41:34 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 20:41:36 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91 [Firefox 36.0a1/20141110030204]] 20:41:36 the cake is a coffee & pear cake 20:41:48 nicolae-: That's hilarious obscure if it's correct. 20:42:45 %git 6584220999ce1c5cb21545b9b710644aef7b3dc0 20:42:45 07mumra02 * 0.13-a0-90-g6584220: Vastly improve layout_wheels 10(1 year, 8 months ago, 1 file, 80+ 35-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=6584220999ce 20:42:52 i love hilarious obscure jokes 20:43:01 heh 20:43:09 s/ous/ously/ 20:43:11 layout_grunt 20:43:55 i also like slipping obscure jokes into my crawl submissions since it's nice to have a reference to something i like in a game i also like, even if no one gets it 20:44:31 this is why there is a shoals vault that is also a level from the nes game startropics 20:46:57 %git 0c40d9f5675d16c5 20:46:57 07kilobyte02 * 0.6.0-a0-1140-g0c40d9f: A different level 3 long blades hit message vs ogres. 10(5 years ago, 1 file, 5+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=0c40d9f5675d 20:47:01 for the record 20:47:49 that krafty kilobyte 20:50:06 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 20:50:06 The build passed. (master - fb3039f #657 : Alex Jurkiewicz): http://travis-ci.org/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/builds/41671276 20:50:06 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 20:50:13 ty chequers 20:50:23 i fixed it!...? 20:50:36 travis-ci gives you a passing grade 20:50:43 feel honoured 20:50:52 travis-ci has a lot of false positive breaks, and therefore a lot of false positive corrections <_< >_> 20:50:53 -!- Mazed has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20:51:12 -!- _Jordan_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:52:16 -!- alefury has quit [] 20:52:34 -!- Wolfechu has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 20:52:53 good bug coming up 20:52:56 ? 20:53:11 !send wheals buggly things 20:53:11 Sending buggly things to wheals. 20:53:27 ! 20:53:32 !blame Lasty 20:53:32 I pronounce Lasty... Guilty! 20:54:58 ! at character select can still choose Deathknight background, press y to ASSERT 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9240 by Kyrris 20:56:49 good 20:58:22 i guess rcfile probably works too\ 20:59:54 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 21:00:03 -!- LexAckson has quit [Client Quit] 21:00:20 ??epic bugs[colour 21:00:22 epic_bugs[10/22]: MarvinPA * 0.13-a0-1343-gad4e203: Don't allow picking a draconian colour in init.txt 21:02:32 It would probably be good if somebody changed init.txt so selecting things in rcfiles is more impossible than it is now. 21:02:40 s/init.txt/initfile.cc/ 21:03:17 That's a really awkward way to say the coding there should be more defensive <_< >_> 21:05:26 imo most crawlcode is offensive 21:05:35 1learn add 21:06:06 wheal: lol 21:06:28 -!- pwnmonkey has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 21:12:58 Grunt: I'm close to fixing the resize thing 21:13:05 ...I hope 21:13:37 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 21:13:46 -!- kazimuth has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 21:14:20 oh wow, that drac colour bug, I had always wondered if something like that might happen given how it used to use the mon-data data directly 21:14:28 good thing it no longer does that 21:16:49 well it seems to be much better 21:17:02 I was still able to trigger a crash with some weird rejigging of the window 21:17:13 but it's got a min size and seems pretty stable with resizes 21:17:57 ...oh 21:18:31 ...hrm 21:21:41 -!- lyrick has joined ##crawl-dev 21:30:25 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 21:30:25 The build passed. (master - 8053d14 #658 : Nicholas Feinberg): http://travis-ci.org/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/builds/41672532 21:30:25 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 21:30:33 03doy02 07[segfault-debug] * 0.16-a0-2573-g853ddb7: apparently travis has a output log size limit 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 0+ 3-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=853ddb72430b 21:31:05 -!- pwnmonkey has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 21:31:08 ZX13 (L3 DsAK) ASSERT(rc == 0) in 'mutation.cc' at line 2411 failed. (D:1) 21:31:37 ZX13 (L3 DsAK) ASSERT(rc == 0) in 'mutation.cc' at line 2411 failed. (D:1) 21:32:03 ZX13 (L3 DsAK) ASSERT(rc == 0) in 'mutation.cc' at line 2411 failed. (D:1) 21:32:50 ZX13 (L3 DsAK) ASSERT(rc == 0) in 'mutation.cc' at line 2411 failed. (D:2) 21:33:08 huh 21:33:09 ZX13 (L3 DsAK) ASSERT(rc == 0) in 'mutation.cc' at line 2411 failed. (D:2) 21:33:17 !crashlog ZX13 21:33:17 5. ZX13, XL3 DsAK, T:1223 (milestone): http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/ZX13/crash-ZX13-20141121-033301.txt 21:33:52 ZX13 (L3 DsAK) ASSERT(rc == 0) in 'mutation.cc' at line 2411 failed. (D:2) 21:33:53 <|amethyst> perma-mutating talons as a DS 21:34:07 when he already has hooves 21:34:07 <|amethyst> wonder if I made a bad change in the C++11isation 21:34:13 <|amethyst> hm 21:34:22 <|amethyst> oh, and innate hooves 21:37:57 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 21:43:04 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 21:43:24 <|amethyst> trying to see if I did anything that would have broken _slot_is_unique 21:43:42 <|amethyst> that was one that I rewrote to use a set instead of an array scan 21:44:13 hrm, we need to figure out what's the best Tile minimum window dimensions 21:44:21 we have 21:44:32 !source windowmanager-sdl.cc:413 21:44:32 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/windowmanager-sdl.cc;hb=HEAD#l413 21:45:23 which is really only used if you try to specify really small window dimensions in the rc 21:45:36 <|amethyst> oh 21:45:37 <|amethyst> doh 21:46:52 Grunt: mr newline, do you care for any technical reasons what the minimum dimensions of the sdl window are for non TOUCH_UI build? 21:47:05 gammafunk: 21:47:05 21:47:08 right now it's 800x480, but that's... 21:47:25 I guess I was asking for that newline, wasn't I 21:47:33 03|amethyst02 07* 0.16-a0-2579-ga644232: Fix broken demonspawn body slot mutation uniqueness check. 10(37 seconds ago, 1 file, 2+ 4-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=a644232e4f02 21:47:35 <|amethyst> hm... so what to do about the broken saves? 21:47:35 %git 770bcbd18 21:47:36 07galehar02 * 0.12-a0-208-g770bcbd: Use std namespace. 10(2 years, 3 months ago, 394 files, 7870+ 8315-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=770bcbd1844b 21:47:38 |amethyst: ? 21:47:40 oh 21:47:43 <|amethyst> Grunt: ZX13's 21:47:57 <|amethyst> could check for overlapping traits on load, but then what? 21:48:02 <|amethyst> pick another one at random? 21:48:12 %git 15903ed7c 21:48:16 07galehar02 * 0.8.0-a0-1985-g15903ed: Allow setting of the window size relatively to the screen size. 10(4 years, 1 month ago, 2 files, 11+ 12-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=15903ed7c7c8 21:48:46 -!- Siegurt has joined ##crawl-dev 21:49:04 %git e0d505c5 21:49:06 07Ixtli02 {Enne} * 0.7.0-a0-1371-ge0d505c: Initial commit of uiwrapper-sdl files 10(4 years, 9 months ago, 2 files, 591+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=e0d505c53595 21:49:08 v0v 21:49:16 gammafunk: it looks like those numbers were pulled out of thin air 21:49:30 03|amethyst02 07* 0.16-a0-2580-g5093509: Simplify. 10(26 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=5093509895f6 21:49:41 -!- KurzedMetal has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:56:48 So my ===hit_closest_nomove macro has stopped working, and I'm wondering if it's an update thing, or some bizzare thing I did when I built most recent, anyone able to point me in the right direction. 21:57:04 <|amethyst> Siegurt: on shift-tab? 21:57:07 Siegurt: You're on Windows, correct? 21:57:08 <|amethyst> Siegurt: are you on a Mac? 21:57:13 I'm on a mac 21:57:19 actually I had it bound to semicolon 21:57:32 -!- ruwin has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:57:34 (It doesn't seem to work if I bind it to anything else either though) 21:57:40 <|amethyst> hrm 21:57:41 |amethyst: The hit_closest_nomove issue is differant from the shift-tab issue. 21:57:46 <|amethyst> oh 21:58:05 I just dropped the hit_closest_nomove issue because.... I don't even know, I was going to deal with eventually <_< >_> 21:58:28 Shift tab now prompts me for a number of times to repeat a command, which isn't something it used to do. 21:59:09 wheals: I' 21:59:17 m hearing people complaining about force attacks not working 21:59:23 which I think may be related to your untrap change 22:01:18 Sorry, I'm not on a Mac, I'm on windows (I don't know why I said I was on a mac, I'm not paying attention to what I'm typing here :) 22:01:37 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 22:02:12 (If it matters, it's console) 22:02:14 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 22:02:14 The build passed. (master - fd74369 #659 : Neil Moore): http://travis-ci.org/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/builds/41673026 22:02:14 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 22:04:05 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:04:33 For some reason HDAtravel stopped working too, but not until after I had been playing for a while and restarted (???) 22:04:56 Grunt: ok thanks, I let them in since the game are is just viewable that small, but they can be tweaked later 22:05:10 just have to craft an elegant, tasteful commit message 22:05:15 s 22:05:27 s/an // 22:06:06 <|amethyst> gammafunk: are you sure you don't mean s/are // ? 22:07:21 <|amethyst> If we strap the corpse of Mavis Beacon to a dynamo, the two of us together can probably provide enough electricity to power at least a city block or two 22:07:23 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 22:08:08 -!- NotKintak has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:09:05 oh I butchered that first sentence too, I see. If only I composed my irc messages as well as I do my commit messages 22:10:49 <|amethyst> ohh, that was "area" 22:11:55 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 22:16:41 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 22:19:43 well, we can just remove Robin and torpor snails then 22:19:46 if we agree about that 22:20:03 oh I'm like 3 minutes late never mind 22:21:52 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 22:22:19 it's okay 22:22:25 I appreciated it :) 22:22:47 is anyone else fixing 9240 22:24:34 -!- domiryuu has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 22:26:09 -!- Ququman has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:26:25 PleasingFungus: i saw the drac horns thing 22:26:46 i'm going to redo drac heads themselves so it's effectively moot 22:26:46 ontoclasm: how do you feel, noble Art Director? 22:26:55 ha 22:26:56 that works 22:27:37 from now on my official title is Noble Art Director 22:27:52 -!- Krakhan has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 22:28:18 get business cards 22:30:25 okay, night 22:30:27 -!- nicolae- has left ##crawl-dev 22:32:22 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 22:33:57 -!- SomeStupidGuy has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:34:04 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:34:35 -!- kazimuth has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 22:34:37 -!- Whistling_Beard has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 22:35:17 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.16-a0-2581-g6f3a107: Don't allow random death knights (9240) 10(5 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=6f3a107709d6 22:39:17 -!- Mazed has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:40:15 PleasingFungus: noooooooooo 22:40:17 rip 22:40:24 :b 22:40:24 rip 22:40:24 they didn't work anyway! 22:41:28 hm. this code uses "centered" instead of "centred". 22:41:34 also, it's really hard for me to type "centred". 22:41:36 it feels wrong. 22:41:57 -!- Lightli has joined ##crawl-dev 22:42:00 :%s/centred/centered/g 22:42:21 <_miek> centered feels wrong :P 22:42:51 reaverb: but that's backwards! 22:42:59 please remember: crawl uses australian english 22:43:17 centred feels really wrong, but yeah australian english, hmm. 22:43:21 oh jesus christ, are lua variables nonlocal by default 22:43:26 Yes. 22:43:30 agh 22:43:40 why would anyone ever write anything in lua 22:43:48 It's the worse language decision I've ever seen. 22:44:04 some tough competition 22:44:05 <_miek> I love that it uses aussie englith 22:44:07 <|amethyst> reaverb: what about the meaning of "local" in Perl 22:44:07 !send PleasingFungus Tcl 22:44:07 Sending Tcl to PleasingFungus. 22:44:08 but yeah it's definitely up there 22:44:13 <_miek> english* 22:44:15 geekosaur: nooooo 22:44:20 <_miek> hardly anything would choose that particular strain by default 22:44:22 <|amethyst> reaverb: or for that matter anything in sh :) 22:44:29 PleasingFungus: Just use centered, and then run :%s/centered/centred/g 22:44:35 Lua replaced Tcl. Count your blessings. 22:44:41 I have a co-worker who despises python, and much prefers sh 22:44:42 it baffles me 22:44:45 <|amethyst> _miek: Linley's Australian, and it stuck :) 22:44:46 er, bash specifically 22:44:55 <_miek> yep 22:45:21 <|amethyst> I "like" sh 22:45:31 <|amethyst> in the sense that it's fun, not a good language 22:45:50 baffling. 22:46:03 I look at bash scripting, and all I see is pain. 22:46:06 <_miek> bash makes sense some times 22:46:10 well put 22:46:25 <_miek> if you're piping application input/output its probably more appropriate than python 22:46:47 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 22:46:56 bash layers functionality on top of a language that desperately wanted to be algol 22:47:12 <|amethyst> algol? 22:47:18 <|amethyst> I mean, syntaxwise maybe 22:47:27 |amethyst: Hmm, that's tough. 22:47:33 (so desperately that the original implementation was in an algol dialect created in cpp >.> ) 22:47:41 <|amethyst> but it's really just a macro substitution language 22:48:46 well, let's say it relates to algol the same way rexx relates to PL/I 22:49:06 <|amethyst> ah 22:49:30 FWIW I can't seem to make a macro definition on CAO trunk either. 22:49:31 cut-down-for-scripting version of the real thing 22:49:45 <|amethyst> when you say "original implementation"... of what? 22:50:00 <|amethyst> because bash is more or less a ksh clone as far as the language goes 22:50:25 the original Bourne shell was written in a bizarre Algol-like language created via C preprocessor macros 22:50:34 <|amethyst> ah 22:50:52 (it also did fun things like allocating memory in a SEGV handler) 22:51:16 <|amethyst> yeah, I've seen some of the bourne shell code... 22:51:28 <|amethyst> well 22:51:41 <|amethyst> some of the still-in-use translated stuff based on that 22:51:46 (that one changed when they ported it to 68000, which couldn't restart instructions reliably in a signal handler) 22:51:51 -!- lyrick has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:51:54 <|amethyst> I guess someone ran it through cpp 22:52:17 well, it got a significant rewrite as part of the port to 68000; you can thank Sun 22:53:22 -!- Brannock has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:53:42 since they had to redo all the memory handling to make it work on the 68000, they pretty much just rewrote it 22:55:47 I know I've asked this before, but I forget - how do I add debug prints in lua? 22:56:02 for level generation 22:56:43 crawl.mpr() maybe, but if you mean in dlua 22:56:46 not sure 22:56:55 crawl.mpr("foo") would probably still work. 22:57:20 PleasingFungus: I ran into Robin again, but nothing interesting happened since I lured away her band and fought here 1 vs. 1 22:57:39 reaverb: it did work! 22:57:44 also, that is reasonable and correct play 22:57:50 !killratio robin * 22:57:52 robin wins 13.83% of battles. 22:57:54 mm 22:57:57 still climbing 22:58:12 * geekosaur briefly had access to V7 UNIX source code back in the mid 1980s. sh's source was terrifying 22:58:13 her band does set her as band leader I assume 22:58:20 I think so 22:58:22 let me check 22:58:37 yep. 22:58:39 might just happen automatically when you designate a band 22:59:06 Now this is just weird, I can define a macro for colon, but not for semicolon. 22:59:17 also yeah I think lua's usage domain is something akin to bash 22:59:29 so global vars probably makes more sense there 23:00:00 * reaverb wonders why lua was choosen to be the scriping language intergrated into Crawl. 23:00:12 -!- CrawlOffline|Jho has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 23:00:12 <|amethyst> lua is very easy to embed 23:00:22 <|amethyst> and small 23:00:37 <|amethyst> compared to, say, python 23:00:50 -!- tabstorm has joined ##crawl-dev 23:01:07 Ah. 23:02:43 hm. 23:03:01 is it expected that early slime levels (in ziggurats) don't spawn loot vaults? 23:03:13 (so the jellies end up eating all the loot?) 23:03:17 in testing, they all failed to place. 23:03:41 -!- reaverb has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:07:48 -!- pwnmonkey has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 23:11:28 I thought the slime zig levels had a protected area in the middle for loot? 23:11:33 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:12:05 -!- MgDark has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:12:34 -!- Siegurt has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:16:05 -!- Poncheis has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 23:18:29 -!- pwnmonkey has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 23:21:23 -!- tcsc has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:22:58 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.16-a0-2581-g6f3a107 (34) 23:22:59 yes, but not in early/small enough levels 23:23:01 apparently 23:23:18 a local vaults expert opines, "who cares about such early levels for loot anyway?" 23:28:35 -!- Whistling_Bread has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 23:29:32 !send PleasingFungus the +6 dagger "Plojy" {antimagic, +Blink} 23:29:32 Sending the +6 dagger "Plojy" {antimagic, +Blink} to PleasingFungus. 23:29:43 jellies can't eat that anyway :) 23:31:47 -!- markgo has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 23:33:17 -!- mong has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.0.1] 23:34:36 -!- Piginabag has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:36:47 -!- Zilis is now known as Guest9752 23:40:12 -!- Zileas has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 23:42:41 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.16-a0-2582-gb421d18: Deduplicate 10(55 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 3-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=b421d18ebdcc 23:42:41 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.16-a0-2583-g77f51cb: Increase megazig lethality 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 23+ 6-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=77f51cb4a003 23:47:38 03gammafunk02 07* 0.16-a0-2584-ga2a871a: Set a minimum Tiles window size of 800x480 when not using touch UI 10(2 hours ago, 1 file, 7+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=a2a871ab4e09 23:47:38 03gammafunk02 07* 0.16-a0-2585-g9e6f58d: Fix resizing of the Tiles window 10(2 hours ago, 2 files, 9+ 33-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=9e6f58dcabc7 23:47:50 gammafunk: !!!!!!!!! 23:47:54 Grunt: I did something!!! 23:47:58 crazy 23:49:28 also: caustic shrikes in zigs 23:50:34 in testing, shard shrikes showed up in zigs 23:50:38 I'm not sure why 23:50:44 zigs mystify me 23:50:45 on cocy levels 23:50:49 presumably 23:50:56 there's a level for each hell 23:51:07 but they'd also need to be added to ice levels 23:51:17 hrm, ice might even just be cocytus actually 23:51:27 yeah I bet that just pulls for cocytus and there's just one 23:51:39 like there's a fre level, and I don't think that ...hrm 23:51:52 geh is surprisingly non-fiery 23:51:56 -!- Whistling_Beard has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 23:52:14 oh yeah there are seperate ones 23:52:36 with_props("ice beast / freezing wraith / ice dragon / " .. 23:52:36 "frost giant / ice devil / ice fiend / simulacrum / " .. 23:52:36 "white draconian knight / blizzard demon", { weight = 2 }), 23:53:02 beware the ice beast! 23:53:47 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 23:54:02 -!- Whistling_Bread has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 23:54:17 PleasingFungus: imo shard shrike for a boss there 23:54:18 <_< 23:54:21 oh 23:54:26 we're not talking about ice caves are we 23:54:30 *muhahahahahaha* 23:55:39 frost giant (12C) | Spd: 10 | HD: 16 | HP: 87-122 | AC/EV: 9/3 | Dam: 35 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, fighter, spellcaster, see invisible | Res: 06magic(80), 02cold++, 12drown | XP: 1750 | Sp: b.cold (3d25) | Sz: Giant | Int: normal. 23:55:39 %??frost giant 23:55:45 hm 23:55:53 Ice Fiend (161) | Spd: 10 | HD: 18 | HP: 78-115 | AC/EV: 15/6 | Dam: 2509(claw)12(cold:18-53), 2509(claw)12(cold:18-53) | 05demonic, 10doors, evil, see invisible, fly | Res: 13magic(immune), 12cold+++, 03poison, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 04fire, 08holy++ | XP: 2892 | Sp: b.cold (3d27) [06!sil], s.torment [06!sil] | Sz: Large | Int: high. 23:55:53 %??ice fiend 23:56:10 maybe 23:56:29 %git iceshrike 23:56:30 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.16-a0-2563-g474a750: Add Shard Shrikes 10(23 hours ago, 8 files, 41+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=474a7506cd53 23:56:37 also improper branch name imo! 23:56:40 ya 23:56:45 I was going to change the branch name before pushing 23:56:46 and then I didn't 23:57:02 +of Cocytus, and a terrible chill now surrounds them.o 23:57:04 spot the typo 23:57:59 o 23:58:38 Grunt: o 23:58:39 PleasingFungus: o 23:58:43 gammafunk: o