00:00:02 -!- tabstorm has joined ##crawl-dev 00:00:31 -!- SwissStopwatch has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 00:02:15 current draft: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=ZMpKetAR (no I am not going to push anything inbetween []s) 00:02:53 Repelling Tsurukogane system 00:03:16 bottom of http://shiren.wikifoundry.com/page/Shiren+2+Normal+Monsters+3 00:03:19 possibly polymorph should have the scales of the dragon falling off instead of the flesh 00:03:57 (actually, the animate distinctly shows a pair of wings, so I'm not quite sure it's a spider) 00:04:15 flying spider 00:04:29 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Quit: Connection reset by pier.] 00:04:32 -!- weezeface has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 00:05:36 "drawing this card will transform you into a riceball," 00:06:01 -!- demiskeleton has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:06:55 -!- heron_ has quit [Client Quit] 00:07:38 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 00:08:14 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 00:09:42 -!- link_108 has joined ##crawl-dev 00:10:09 Changing the player colour through mon_glyph fails 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9151 by 78291 00:11:09 03Grunt02 07[sdl2] * 0.16-a0-1974-g5471642: Win32 build adjustments (includes a sdl2 contrib update). 10(12 minutes ago, 5 files, 15+ 12-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=547164252dda 00:14:33 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.16-a0-1970-g0967df0 (34) 00:15:15 Grunt: #if 0, nice 00:15:39 #ifdef THE_WORLD_HAS_ENDED 00:20:17 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 00:22:05 -!- _Jordan_ has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 00:23:45 #if GAMMAFUNK_CAN_CODE_HIS_WAY_OUT_OF_A_PAPER_BAG 00:24:29 brutal. 00:24:58 -!- Sonata has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 00:25:34 pleasingfungus: where's all your []-busters 00:25:50 #if PLEASINGFUNGUS_CAN_EVER_GET_SDL2_WORKING_ON_OSX 00:26:08 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]] 00:26:17 o 00:26:19 I forgot about that 00:26:24 gimme a sec 00:26:33 New branch created: brand_reform (2 commits) 00:26:33 03PleasingFungus02 07[brand_reform] * 0.16-a0-1970-g36f1134: Add more uses of 'brand' 10(2 hours ago, 1 file, 3+ 3-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=36f11345097a 00:26:33 03PleasingFungus02 07[brand_reform] * 0.16-a0-1971-gbf332bd: Initial work in brand reform 10(63 minutes ago, 3 files, 67+ 39-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=bf332bd846b9 00:26:36 if you don't produce any before nicolae- next does something I might actually push repelling orb-weaver family! 00:26:40 PleasingFungus: btw I'm not sure if there is much point touching the code in a prebuilt :( 00:26:42 awrgh 00:26:58 Grunt: it makes me happy :) 00:27:00 theTower: velocity "The card depicts an eagle diving to sieze a turtle in its talons." 00:27:07 until we reprebuild it,I guess 00:27:10 s/sieze/seize/ 00:27:17 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 00:27:31 "the card depicts an eagle dropping a turtle onto a rock" 00:27:32 er, yes 00:27:33 The 'sdl2-image' directory exists, but the Makefile is missing! 00:27:35 Did 'git submodule update' work properly? 00:27:36 (It's probably better to install all native dependencies instead.) 00:27:38 Grunt: ??? 00:27:42 PleasingFungus: aha 00:27:50 I tried git submodule update, btw 00:27:55 (also, what's an eagle) 00:27:59 you need to 00:28:00 it's a bit like a shrike. 00:28:08 git submodule init 00:28:10 first 00:28:24 o 00:28:27 that's doing something 00:28:33 good 00:28:59 PleasingFungus: I am certain this will fail spectacularly btw. 00:29:15 (the build) 00:29:18 ./SDL_image.h:27:10: fatal error: 'SDL.h' file not found 00:29:19 #include "SDL.h" 00:29:29 IMG_lbm.c:37:10: fatal error: 'SDL_endian.h' file not found 00:29:31 #include "SDL_endian.h" 00:29:33 h m 00:29:47 cd contrib 00:29:50 make sdl2 00:30:44 I need to sleep soon :( 00:30:54 http://pastebin.com/0YCYHgcd 00:30:56 dowsing: "The card depicts a blindfolded mystic, whose forehead is marked with a tattoo in the shape of an eye." 00:30:57 sorry I took so long :( 00:31:02 I was playing a videogame with my little bro 00:31:32 #if GRUNT_COULD_CODE_HIS_WAY_OUT_OF_A_PAPER_BAG_THEN_WHY_DID_GAMMAFUNK_HAVE_TO_FIX...you know that's getting a bit long 00:31:47 sounds like a pleasingfungus define, imho 00:31:54 -!- kait has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 00:31:54 dowsing: something about ashenzari 00:32:08 N78291: I think I just fixed that mon_glyph bug, so thanks for reporting 00:32:19 "the card depicts opening your eyes, and then opening your eyes again" 00:32:21 I am successfully lightmagenta food 00:32:26 N78291: i just described that one picture someone drew of ashenzari 00:32:33 gammafunk: just as you've always dreamed!!! 00:32:39 indeed 00:32:44 tasty lightmagenta 00:32:51 what kind of depiction of ash isn't shackled to the sky 00:32:51 although do we invert the player colour? 00:33:03 I'm actually black % with lightmagenta highlight 00:33:09 but I think this is right anyhow 00:33:35 man okay "...a mystic, bound in chains,..." 00:34:05 PleasingFungus: oops this may be my fault 00:34:32 card descriptions have no need to match the actual mechanics so they might as well be filled with abstruse symbolism 00:34:40 ??oops 00:34:40 pleasingfungus[1/13]: oops 00:34:45 -!- crawlTV is now known as primordial 00:35:09 PleasingFungus: go to contrib/sdl2/Makefile 00:35:25 PleasingFungus: find src/filesystem/cocoa/*.c 00:35:46 PleasingFungus: replace .c with .m 00:36:22 -!- DrStalker has quit [] 00:36:39 wow that's a lot of warnings 00:37:07 making clean 00:37:36 http://pastebin.com/rvVvEuPJ no joy 00:37:40 (no warnings/errors before this) 00:39:46 oh 00:41:08 well this is awkward. 00:41:09 uh 00:41:23 ? 00:42:08 03gammafunk02 07* 0.16-a0-1971-gf171d97: Fix the setting of the player colour through mon_glyph 10(5 minutes ago, 1 file, 10+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=f171d97ab06f 00:42:23 Meanwhile, *my* code works perfectly... 00:42:27 * gammafunk looks smug. 00:42:51 oh 00:43:04 should have indicated the bug and closed the bug 00:43:49 probably, yes 00:44:07 PleasingFungus: it's trying to build an empty library which may not be needed?? 00:47:15 -!- link_108 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 00:47:20 PleasingFungus: go to Makefile:68 00:47:22 append 00:47:29 src/main/dummy/*.c 00:47:29 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 00:48:14 SDL2MAIN_SOURCES = src/main/dummy/*.c 00:48:16 ? 00:48:18 yes 00:48:31 make[1]: *** No rule to make target `../install/unknown/share/man/man3/*.3', needed by `install'. Stop. 00:48:49 er, that is 00:48:51 CC src/main/dummy/SDL_dummy_main.o 00:48:53 AR libSDL2main.a 00:48:54 RANLIB libSDL2main.a 00:48:56 make[1]: *** No rule to make target `../install/unknown/share/man/man3/*.3', needed by `install'. Stop. 00:50:26 h m m m m m m 00:50:47 are you running make from contrib 00:51:02 go back to trying to build crawl if so 00:51:05 SDL dummy (158) | Spd: 10 (07stationary) | HD: 1 | HP: 6 | AC/EV: 0/0 | Dam: 1 | 11non-living, 10items, 10doors | Res: 13magic(immune), 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | XP: 2 | Sz: Large | Int: high. 00:51:05 %??training_dummy name:SDL_dummy n_rpl 00:52:22 -!- gammafunk has quit [Quit: rip] 00:52:36 ok I went back 00:52:53 ok it got through the sdl bit 00:53:14 -!- N78291 has quit [Quit: null] 00:53:14 -!- link_108 has joined ##crawl-dev 00:53:15 wait 00:53:17 I lied 00:53:44 http://pastebin.com/uU8a4Kt9 00:56:06 u g h 00:56:43 ??ugh 00:56:44 ugh ~ gh ~ ghoul[1/3]: Player ghouls have claws 1 (see {unarmed combat}), rN+++, rC+, rPois, and torment immunity. They also rot over time. Eating chunks can cure rot and/or restore HP; these effects occur independently, and are more likely when eating rotten or contaminated chunks. Monster ghouls are quite powerful, have a ton of HP, and rot you. 00:57:52 do you have a 00:57:57 contrib/install 00:58:08 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 00:58:08 crawl-ref/crawl-ref#220 (master - ca384b8 : Shmuale Mark): The build has errored. 00:58:08 Change view : https://github.com/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/compare/4ae1ea9923de...ca384b8900a9 00:58:08 Build details : http://travis-ci.org/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/builds/40256093 00:58:08 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 01:00:32 Grunt: yes 01:00:47 -!- primordial has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:02:35 PleasingFungus: /x86_64-something 01:02:54 -!- Pluie has joined ##crawl-dev 01:03:01 bash-3.2$ ls contrib/install/x86_64-apple-darwin14.0.0/ 01:03:02 include lib 01:03:31 cp -a contrib/sdl2/include contrib/install//includd/SDL2 01:03:33 er 01:03:36 s/dd/de/ 01:03:48 -!- ElanMorin has joined ##crawl-dev 01:04:30 really hacky but idk the best way to get SDL2 to build before -image but link after...... 01:05:36 http://pastebin.com/tx4aSdfz 01:06:03 progress! 01:09:40 -!- crawlTV has joined ##crawl-dev 01:12:34 -!- Quazifuji has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:13:21 PleasingFungus: oh 01:13:54 PleasingFungus: in sdl2's Makefile:158 01:13:56 remove 01:14:03 $(MAN3_INST) 01:15:14 http://pastebin.com/iyPX0QS8 01:15:34 is it a deliberate decision that god wrath is the same even in early game? 01:15:58 it would be nice if i could worship whoever i come across first and then swap at * to someone at the temple without major issues 01:16:29 -!- crate has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 01:16:53 ughhhhhhhh 01:17:46 it is too late in the evening for me to diagnose this one :( 01:18:42 chequers: a) it's not -exactly- the same; most wrath scales a bit with your XL 01:19:10 and b) the thing you described is exactly why it is the way it is 01:19:36 if you see an early altar you have to make a tough decision, which is good 01:19:59 that's true 01:20:25 -!- Pacra has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 01:21:31 Grunt: ya I should have gone to bed an hour ago 01:21:38 I haven't been following the updates today. I see that DBRO can't build the latest master 01:22:02 did you give updating the dependencies another go? 01:23:41 %git 76c8bfa97 01:23:41 07bh02 * 0.16-a0-1948-g76c8bfa: Revert "Revert c++11" 10(7 hours ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=76c8bfa97cf9 01:24:09 looks like it. I guess CBRO will be lagging trunk for a while till I have time to plan a dist-upgrade and deal with all the potential fallout 01:27:58 -!- NilsBloodaxe has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:29:01 -!- weezeface has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:29:25 johnstein: actually nothing should have changed, but maybe you need to make distclean 01:29:55 -!- Brannock_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 01:33:59 -!- weezeface has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:34:54 theTower: http://pastebin.com/V9pPvK4f 01:34:58 * ontoclasm shrugs 01:35:51 * PleasingFungus also shrugs. 01:35:59 rip 01:36:31 tomb seems like it wants to have that last clause trimmed 01:36:46 that's fine 01:36:54 cloud is mega weird 01:37:05 well cloud is a weird card 01:37:12 but yes 01:38:00 hammer is deeply worrying; what if people started thinking that mountain dwarves were back? 01:38:08 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91 [Firefox 36.0a1/20141101030205]] 01:38:13 rip 01:41:49 it is late and I will evaluate these later 01:41:56 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 01:42:06 I wasn't actually serious about firebrand in cloud >_> 01:42:33 haha 01:42:41 also, I wasn't serious about referring to jozef in mercenary! 01:43:05 i didn't even know it was a jozef reference 01:43:13 i was just like 01:43:15 purple = self-important 01:44:12 also very buggy should be "angrily filing bug reports" 01:44:33 blade and shadow were discworld quotes, at some point I became very tired of writing placeholders 01:45:13 i knew shadow was, but didn't recognize blade 01:45:29 magpyr 01:45:42 mm 01:49:19 -!- kipster has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:51:40 using warpwright, tomb, banshee, pain, helm, dowsing, dance with minimal editing / second thoughts 01:51:49 I will rest when coherent 01:51:52 -!- Artelis has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:52:31 -!- halberd_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:57:27 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 02:04:27 -!- theTower has quit [Quit: leaving] 02:11:03 -!- AltReality has quit [Quit: Shame on us, doomed from the start, May God have mercy on our dirty little hearts. 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(D:10) 08:06:29 !crashlog ayutzia 08:06:29 wheals: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 08:06:30 14. Ayutzia, XL16 DrHe, T:52878 (milestone): http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/Ayutzia/crash-Ayutzia-20141107-140531.txt 08:06:32 !messages 08:06:33 (1/1) PleasingFungus said (9h 32m 29s ago): http://sprunge.us/bjZW 08:15:52 -!- TAS_2012v has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:17:47 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:19:49 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:20:14 !tell pleasingfungus why do auxes have this weird thing with AUX_* that does nothing but have its address taken? 08:20:14 wheals: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 08:21:31 -!- Irrlicht has quit [Quit: leaving] 08:25:16 -!- MIC132 has joined ##crawl-dev 08:25:31 There is error when compilng current version 08:25:56 what platform? 08:26:05 Windows 08:26:06 In file included from e:\programy\msysgit\mingw\bin\../lib/gcc/mingw32/4.4.0/include/c++/bits/postyp 08:26:06 es.h:42, 08:26:06 from e:\programy\msysgit\mingw\bin\../lib/gcc/mingw32/4.4.0/include/c++/iosfwd:42, 08:26:07 from e:\programy\msysgit\mingw\bin\../lib/gcc/mingw32/4.4.0/include/c++/memory:62, 08:26:08 from externs.h:13, 08:26:12 from AppHdr.h:470, 08:26:14 from ability.cc:6: 08:26:16 e:\programy\msysgit\mingw\bin\../lib/gcc/mingw32/4.4.0/include/c++/cwchar:159: error: '::swprintf' h 08:26:18 you need to update your compiler i think 08:26:18 as not been declared 08:26:20 e:\programy\msysgit\mingw\bin\../lib/gcc/mingw32/4.4.0/include/c++/cwchar:166: error: '::vswprintf' 08:26:22 has not been declared 08:26:24 In file included from dungeon.h:14, 08:26:26 from ability.cc:28: 08:26:28 mapdef.h:907: warning: 'auto_ptr' is deprecated (declared at e:\programy\msysgit\mingw\bin\../lib/gc 08:26:30 c/mingw32/4.4.0/include/c++/backward/auto_ptr.h:86) 08:26:32 That's what I get 08:26:35 How do i check version? 08:26:41 g++ --version 08:26:51 4.4.0 08:27:24 It compiled just fine two days ago.. 08:27:30 yeah, it needs a newer version, but you'd have to wait until someone who knows msysgit is around 08:27:52 -!- Pluie has joined ##crawl-dev 08:28:12 So something was changed in last two days that requires new compiler? Damn.. 08:28:32 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 08:28:32 crawl-ref/crawl-ref#233 (brand_reform - bf332bd : Nicholas Feinberg): The build passed. 08:28:32 Change view : https://github.com/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/compare/36f11345097a^...bf332bd846b9 08:28:32 Build details : http://travis-ci.org/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/builds/40265854 08:28:32 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 08:28:55 yeah, we changed to C++11 08:30:39 -!- Isabel has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:31:11 What version of g++ would I need? 08:31:22 -!- Lawman0 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 08:31:41 -!- zxc232 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:31:56 4.7 or greater, iirc 08:32:53 Well, I'll try downloading newest build and just pasting it into msys.. 08:33:49 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 08:35:36 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 08:40:10 is quicksilver dragon hide lacking MR+ intentional 08:40:24 all other dragon hides give their appropriate bonuses 08:40:40 (including shadow) 08:41:29 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:42:06 -!- Brannock has joined ##crawl-dev 08:47:19 I'd call that a bug 08:47:49 gotta poke comfortablemushroom when he comes around 08:48:24 Once I am able to compile crawl again I could take care of it :p 08:48:32 :mutter mutter C++11: 08:49:01 MIC132: If you get it working, please let me know what steps you took 08:49:05 because I'm still working on that :p 08:49:47 well make sure to credit DrKe 08:51:38 -!- netkitten_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:52:36 Ok 08:52:40 Now I have no idea what happened 08:52:55 {standard input}: Assembler messages: 08:52:55 {standard input}:19: Error: expecting string instruction after `rep' 08:52:55 {standard input}:645: Error: expecting string instruction after `rep' 08:52:55 make: *** [ability.o] Error 1 08:52:58 What the hell? 08:54:18 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 08:55:06 Any ideas? wheals ? 08:55:23 no idea 08:55:57 Hm 08:56:01 After make clean 08:56:07 It now crashes earlier even 08:56:27 "make[1]: Entering directory `/crawl/crawl-ref/source/rltiles' 08:56:27 * rebuilding tilegen: new build flags or prefix 08:56:27 HOSTCXX tool/tile_colour.o 08:56:27 C:\Users\MIC\AppData\Local\Temp\ccduHcXv.s: Assembler messages: 08:56:27 C:\Users\MIC\AppData\Local\Temp\ccduHcXv.s:25: Error: unknown .loc sub-directive `discriminator' 08:56:27 C:\Users\MIC\AppData\Local\Temp\ccduHcXv.s:25: Error: junk at end of line, first unrecognized charac 08:56:29 ter is `4' 08:56:31 C:\Users\MIC\AppData\Local\Temp\ccduHcXv.s:34: Error: unknown .loc sub-directive `discriminator' 08:56:33 C:\Users\MIC\AppData\Local\Temp\ccduHcXv.s:34: Error: junk at end of line, first unrecognized charac 08:56:35 ter is `1' 08:56:37 C:\Users\MIC\AppData\Local\Temp\ccduHcXv.s:67: Error: unknown .loc sub-directive `discriminator' 08:56:39 C:\Users\MIC\AppData\Local\Temp\ccduHcXv.s:67: Error: junk at end of line, first unrecognized charac 08:56:43 ter is `4' 08:56:45 C:\Users\MIC\AppData\Local\Temp\ccduHcXv.s:76: Error: unknown .loc sub-directive `discriminator' 08:56:47 C:\Users\MIC\AppData\Local\Temp\ccduHcXv.s:76: Error: junk at end of line, first unrecognized charac 08:56:49 ter is `2' 08:56:51 C:\Users\MIC\AppData\Local\Temp\ccduHcXv.s:80: Error: unknown .loc sub-directive `discriminator' 08:56:53 C:\Users\MIC\AppData\Local\Temp\ccduHcXv.s:80: Error: junk at end of line, first unrecognized charac 08:56:55 ter is `1' 08:56:57 C:\Users\MIC\AppData\Local\Temp\ccduHcXv.s:166: Error: unknown .loc sub-directive `discriminator' 08:56:59 C:\Users\MIC\AppData\Local\Temp\ccduHcXv.s:166: Error: junk at end of line, first unrecognized chara 08:56:59 ??pastebin 08:57:00 I don't have a page labeled pastebin in my learndb. 08:57:01 cter is `1' 08:57:03 C:\Users\MIC\AppData\Local\Temp\ccduHcXv.s:237: Error: unknown .loc sub-directive `discriminator' 08:57:05 C:\Users\MIC\AppData\Local\Temp\ccduHcXv.s:237: Error: junk at end of line, first unrecognized chara 08:57:07 cter is `1' 08:57:09 C:\Users\MIC\AppData\Local\Temp\ccduHcXv.s:1777: Error: unknown .loc sub-directive `discriminator' 08:57:13 C:\Users\MIC\AppData\Local\Temp\ccduHcXv.s:1777: Error: junk at end of line, first unrecognized char 08:57:15 acter is `2' 08:57:17 C:\Users\MIC\AppData\Local\Temp\ccduHcXv.s:1781: Error: unknown .loc sub-directive `discriminator' 08:57:19 C:\Users\MIC\AppData\Local\Temp\ccduHcXv.s:1781: Error: junk at end of line, first unrecognized char 08:57:21 acter is `2' 08:57:23 make[1]: *** [tool/tile_colour.o] Error 1 08:57:25 make[1]: Leaving directory `/crawl/crawl-ref/source/rltiles' 08:57:27 make: *** [build-rltiles] Error 2" 08:57:28 eep 08:57:29 That's what I get 08:57:31 Anyone smart here? 08:58:11 http://pastebin.com/A7VjeEN8 08:58:12 Here 08:58:59 I used mingw installer to install it.. But apparently something exploded 08:59:22 But I don't fancy reinstalling whole msysgit, and I think the still have 4.4.0 anyway 08:59:28 -!- Trevise_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:59:38 So if you have any dea what is wrong I may try to fix it.. 09:01:23 03doy02 07[sdl2] * 0.16-a0-1975-gf459992: install sdl2 for travis 10(5 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=f459992a2952 09:04:37 Apparently this has something to do with outdated binutils, but I have newest that mingw can offer. 09:05:43 MIC132: I've been having the same problem. I poked at it for a few hours last night, but wasn't able to solve it before I had to stop. 09:07:25 Damn.. 09:08:31 Well, I'll have to go for now, but if I figure something I'll tell you. 09:08:46 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 09:09:08 -!- MIC132 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:11:43 -!- halberd has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:12:04 doy: beat me to it :) 09:12:05 Grunt: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 09:12:38 well, looks like travis is on ubuntu 12.04, so that's not quite it 09:14:30 -!- halberd has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:14:47 -!- Pluie has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 09:16:41 03doy02 07[sdl2] * 0.16-a0-1976-g4535995: add a ppa that should hopefully include sdl2 packages 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=4535995bbcef 09:23:13 h m m m m m 09:23:52 !send Grunt hm 09:23:52 Sending hm to Grunt. 09:23:57 !send wheals oops 09:23:57 Sending oops to wheals. 09:24:00 !send wheals ugh 09:24:00 Sending ugh to wheals. 09:24:11 !revegno |amethyst 09:24:29 er 09:24:47 !send wheals some |amethysts 09:24:47 Sending some |amethysts to wheals. 09:26:48 -!- halberd has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:27:36 03doy02 07[sdl2] * 0.16-a0-1977-g15d3014: this ppa uses different package names 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=15d3014c0ae2 09:28:15 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 09:30:18 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 09:32:09 -!- halberd has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:36:34 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:36:55 alright, the build is still failing, and i don't know why, so 09:37:21 someone else can look into it 09:37:22 -!- causative has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:37:24 (: 09:37:48 Player illusions created by the Illusion card are generated hostile for followers of good gods 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9153 by nagdon 09:40:41 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 09:42:47 -!- siepu has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:42:52 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:46:24 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 09:46:48 ^version 09:46:49 trunk: 0.16-a0-1935-g33a54cb; 0.14: 0.14.2; 0.13: 0.13.2 09:50:18 03wheals02 07* 0.16-a0-1972-g1a58c9b: Cppclean: remove unused function declarations. 10(2 hours ago, 40 files, 80+ 133-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=1a58c9b719e1 09:50:18 03wheals02 07* 0.16-a0-1973-g8fe43dc: Cppclean: remove an unused variable. 10(88 minutes ago, 1 file, 0+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=8fe43dc5b21f 09:50:18 03wheals02 07* 0.16-a0-1974-g1f3b535: Cppclean: some misc. cleanup. 10(23 minutes ago, 30 files, 25+ 14-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=1f3b535bb1f0 09:52:50 -!- Bloax has quit [Quit: Error: Bloax not found] 09:53:05 -!- mineral has joined ##crawl-dev 09:53:58 -!- radinms has quit [] 09:55:24 03wheals02 07* 0.16-a0-1975-g03d9a50: Disable the corny and inconsistent translation. 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=03d9a50b36f2 09:55:42 -!- read has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:04:05 -!- edlothiol has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:05:09 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 10:05:09 crawl-ref/crawl-ref#236 (sdl2 - 15d3014 : Jesse Luehrs): The build failed. 10:05:09 Change view : https://github.com/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/compare/4535995bbcef...15d3014c0ae2 10:05:09 Build details : http://travis-ci.org/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/builds/40303215 10:05:09 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 10:05:34 03wheals02 07* 0.16-a0-1976-g633f41b: Don't make player illusions temporarily ghosts (#9153). 10(3 minutes ago, 4 files, 1+ 9-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=633f41b6fb48 10:06:36 -!- bonghitz_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:15:41 jmbjr@www: /var/www/crawl/dev$ gcc --version 10:15:42 gcc (Ubuntu/Linaro 4.7.3-2ubuntu1~12.04) 4.7.3 10:15:46 jmbjr@www: /var/www/crawl/dev$ g++ --version 10:15:46 g++ (Ubuntu/Linaro 4.7.3-2ubuntu1~12.04) 4.7.3 10:17:01 my gcc and g++ both say version 4.7.3 but when I try to rebuild I see a ton of : 10:17:18 /usr/include/c++/4.6/bits/stl_pair.h:99:31: error: expected unqualified-id before ‘)’ token 10:17:19 /usr/include/c++/4.6/bits/stl_pair.h:103:31: error: expected unqualified-id before ‘const’ 10:17:21 /usr/include/c++/4.6/bits/stl_pair.h:103:31: error: expected ‘)’ before ‘const’ 10:17:23 /usr/include/c++/4.6/bits/stl_pair.h:108:26: error: expected unqualified-id before ‘const’ 10:17:26 any smart people around 10:17:45 I don't know why it's using 4.6 10:18:04 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 10:18:28 johnstein: what is your libstdc++6 version 10:20:09 !source melee-attack.cc 10:20:09 PleasingFungus: You have 3 messages. Use !messages to read them. 10:20:10 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/melee-attack.cc;hb=HEAD 10:20:22 underscore. feh 10:20:33 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 10:20:56 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 10:21:01 wheals: ...oh, that's an old implementation. |amethyst made a better one for the equivalent structure in forms.cc; aux_attack_types should be shifted to use that 10:21:02 it looks like Forms and animations have the same model 10:21:06 oh 10:21:06 grunt: this will sound dumb, but I had to wrestle with libstdc++6.so a bunch to get dfhack working and I'm not quite sure the current state (all I know is that I never broke crawl recompilation) 10:21:13 I will check 10:21:40 -!- PaskaPeliOnPaska has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:21:55 -!- causative has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:22:18 wheals: I could explain the reason for it, but it's obsolete now, so 10:22:33 Grunt: jmbjr@www: /var/www/crawl/dev$ /sbin/ldconfig -p |grep stdc++ 10:22:35 libstdc++.so.6 (libc6,x86-64) => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libstdc++.so.6 10:22:37 libstdc++.so.6 (libc6) => /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libstdc++.so.6 10:22:39 -!- causative is now known as Guest90439 10:22:39 libstdc++.so.6 (libc6) => /usr/lib32/libstdc++.so.6 10:22:40 fwiw I think that aux attack code could probably be moved to its own file 10:22:40 libstdc++.so.5 (libc6) => /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libstdc++.so.5 10:22:55 bh: do we still need DISALLOW_COPY_AND_ASSIGN in C++11? 10:24:11 #ifdef __cplusplus 10:24:18 ...what is that supposed to mean 10:25:14 -!- tabstorm has joined ##crawl-dev 10:25:26 -!- halberd is now known as Guest34447 10:25:26 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 10:26:40 johnstein: I'm worried more about headers than the library itself :) 10:28:56 -!- Guest90439 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 10:28:59 -!- Blomdor has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:30:52 -!- heteroy has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 10:31:33 -!- Guest34447 is now known as causative_ 10:31:38 -!- causative_ has quit [Changing host] 10:35:26 -!- halberd_ is now known as Guest94419 10:36:46 grunt: do I lose my server admin credibility if I'm not 100% sure what you are referring to? :) 10:36:55 johnstein: you do not! 10:37:17 johnstein: can you try installing the package 10:37:19 i wonder what dos_direction_unmunge() was for anyway 10:37:20 libstdc++6-4.7-dev 10:37:22 and see what that does 10:37:46 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 10:37:46 crawl-ref/crawl-ref#237 (master - 1f3b535 : Shmuale Mark): The build was broken. 10:37:46 Change view : https://github.com/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/compare/f171d97ab06f...1f3b535bb1f0 10:37:46 Build details : http://travis-ci.org/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/builds/40306278 10:37:46 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 10:38:01 wheaallllsssss..? 10:38:09 -!- causative_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:38:14 + const char *pos = strchr(DOSidiocy, doskey); 10:38:14 + return (pos? DOSunidiocy[ pos - DOSidiocy ] : doskey); 10:38:31 !send wheals DOSidiocy 10:38:32 Sending DOSidiocy to wheals. 10:38:40 DOSicide 10:39:05 why did it work on half of the compilations only 10:39:53 grunt: jmbjr@www: /var/www/crawl/dev$ sudo apt-get install libstdc++6-4.7-dev 10:39:54 Reading package lists... Done 10:39:56 Building dependency tree 10:39:58 Reading state information... Done 10:39:59 libstdc++6-4.7-dev is already the newest version. 10:40:20 h m m m m 10:40:33 I just get "There was an error while loading data, please try again" 10:40:33 also, it's still complaining about registers 10:40:54 the error is 10:40:57 In file included from acquire.cc:18: 10:40:57 ./artefact.h:64:50: error: unknown type name 'bolt' 10:40:57 setup_missile_type (*launch)(item_def* item, bolt* beam, 10:41:19 maybe it's a race condition with inclusion? 10:42:04 -!- grillatactics has quit [Quit: grillatactics] 10:42:38 oh boy 10:42:50 now that i look at it i don't understand why it compiles at all 10:44:09 the best kind of code 10:45:29 -!- Aryth has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 10:46:16 johnstein: hmmmmmmm why is it using the wrong headers.... 10:47:30 03wheals02 07* 0.16-a0-1977-g4ffe245: Fix compilation? 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=4ffe245a5779 10:47:30 03wheals02 07* 0.16-a0-1978-gc204b2e: Remove C++03 compat hacks. 10(2 minutes ago, 20 files, 39+ 59-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=c204b2e1f4a8 10:47:37 -!- clouded_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:47:59 PleasingFungus: could you cancel builds #238 and #239 10:48:09 uh 10:48:11 maybe 10:48:12 -!- clouded_ has joined ##crawl-dev 10:49:02 wow, travis wants a lot of permissions 10:49:15 wheals: ohI can do that 10:49:16 I think 10:49:18 let's check 10:49:29 are you an OFFICIAL MEMBER OF CRAWL-REF 10:49:32 YES 10:49:33 -!- aleksiL has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 10:50:34 hm 10:50:38 anyway for some reason travis refuses to load once I've signed in 10:50:40 but I can't find the cancel button......... 10:51:38 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 10:52:15 oh there it is 10:52:27 I HAVE PUSHED THE BUTTON 10:52:38 * wheals pushes Grunt. 10:52:40 * Grunt pulls wheals. 10:53:00 * wheals makes a request you not do that 10:53:23 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 10:57:48 * Grunt closes wheals' request. 10:58:50 -!- Guest94419 is now known as causative_ 10:58:56 -!- causative_ has quit [Changing host] 11:00:40 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 11:03:45 uh oh 11:04:15 r i p 11:04:51 wheals: build 240 is failing too 11:05:01 03Grunt02 07[sdl2] * 0.16-a0-1978-gc371c2d: Travis: still install SDL1.2, so tile gen utils can use it. 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=c371c2d767e7 11:05:03 that would be why i said uh oh 11:05:30 wtf misc just built 11:05:38 is this a ccache issue 11:05:58 wheals: I am going to cancel 240 too while you investigate 11:06:05 sounds fine 11:06:06 because I want to see if that sdl2 change did what it is supposed to :) 11:06:09 -!- Utis has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 11:08:48 03wheals02 07* 0.16-a0-1979-ga6a438f: Another try at fixing weird build issues. 10(74 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=a6a438f4eb23 11:09:14 it's rather hard to know how to fix compilation when it compiles 11:09:45 !send wheals an angry non-compiling travis 11:09:45 Sending an angry non-compiling travis to wheals. 11:12:47 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:15:32 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 11:17:35 -!- Siegurt has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 11:17:44 -!- aleksiL has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:19:51 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.16-a0-1978-gc204b2e (34) 11:20:04 apparently cao has no weird build issues? 11:20:15 clearly gammafunk is responsible for intimidating travis into non-compliance 11:20:16 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 11:20:55 rudeafunk 11:23:08 u g h, bad travis 11:23:15 and here 11:23:20 I was going to poke at sdl2 11:23:49 but it seems that there are only big meanies with @ that try to make me cry ;_; 11:24:23 * Grunt pokes gammafunk with an sdl2. 11:24:37 do you have an sdl2 todo? 11:24:54 todo: get everything to build on every applicable platform 11:25:04 hrm, what are we missing? 11:25:12 everything 11:25:14 yes 11:25:16 -!- Kramin has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 11:25:21 er, wait 11:25:27 getting it to run on the platform is good too i bet 11:25:31 but it builds on nearly all? 11:25:43 I got it to build on Windows, but it crashed immediately. 11:25:46 ah ok 11:25:51 PF and I were working on OS X last night. 11:26:10 PleasingFungus, incidentally the problem we were running into when I went to sleep is that the tilegen utils still use SDL 1.2 11:26:15 so porting those is a major TODO 11:26:35 ??sdl2 11:26:35 I don't have a page labeled sdl2 in my learndb. 11:26:49 I'd also like to get the WME_ framework on the Crawl side of things to line up more with how SDL2 does things but that can wait until we have things mostly workable :) 11:27:04 and once we have things mostly workable I want to try getting Android to work....... 11:27:33 !learn add sdl2 TODO: crashes on windows, port tilegen to sdl2, refactor WME_ framework to line up with SDL2's framework, get android working 11:27:34 sdl2[1/1]: TODO: crashes on windows, port tilegen to sdl2, refactor WME_ framework to line up with SDL2's framework, get android working 11:27:49 Grunt: ah, ok 11:27:54 !learn edit sdl2 s/, port/, get OS X building, port/ 11:27:54 sdl2[1/1]: TODO: crashes on windows, get OS X building, port tilegen to sdl2, refactor WME_ framework to line up with SDL2's framework, get android working 11:28:10 hrm well let me poke with os x since I have one now 11:28:25 I have to leave in like 30 mins but I'll be back fairly soon 11:28:41 I think I know *why* it crashes on Windows; I just need to figure out how to work around it. 11:30:25 src/thread/windows/ doesn't have 100% of the functionality the rest of everything needs to build, src/thread/generic/ seems to be infinitely loopy (that is the cause of the current crash), and I haven't figured out how to get src/thread/stdcpp/ to build yet :) 11:31:01 !send grunt loopt 11:31:02 Sending loopt to grunt. 11:31:02 !learn edit sdl2 s@windows@windows (try to get thread/stdcpp to build instead of thread/generic)@ 11:31:03 sdl2[1/1]: TODO: crashes on windows (try to get thread/stdcpp to build instead of thread/generic), get OS X building, port tilegen to sdl2, refactor WME_ framework to line up with SDL2's framework, get android working 11:31:09 loopy 11:31:11 ratherh 11:31:14 !send wheals plojy 11:31:15 Sending plojy to wheals. 11:31:15 aaugh 11:31:24 !send Grunt gluggy 11:31:24 plojy++ 11:31:25 Sending gluggy to Grunt. 11:31:31 !send wheals orb 11:31:32 Sending orb to wheals. 11:31:45 that one honestly perplexes me the most 11:31:46 !send PleasingFungus glorpo 11:31:46 Sending glorpo to PleasingFungus. 11:31:49 ! 11:31:55 unrelated: was someone going to add ru altars to sprints? 11:31:58 I feel like someone was 11:32:39 sacrifice length 11:32:49 would ru piety get multiplied 11:33:24 oh right implementation details - ru piety shouldn't get multiplied, but offer frequency should be 11:33:56 !tell lasty ru still needs to be adjusted for sprints at some point (altars added, piety de-multiplied, offer frequency multiplied?) 11:33:56 PleasingFungus: OK, I'll let lasty know. 11:34:07 now I remember 11:34:23 !learn edit sdl2 s/refa/map keycodes better, refa/ 11:34:23 sdl2[1/1]: TODO: crashes on windows (try to get thread/stdcpp to build instead of thread/generic), get OS X building, port tilegen to sdl2, map keycodes better, refactor WME_ framework to line up with SDL2's framework, get android working 11:35:07 todl2 11:35:26 hm 11:35:34 you know that vault in the lab 11:35:41 that has a zombie minotaur on a island surrounded by lava 11:35:54 -!- Aryth1 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:36:10 I wonder if it should be like... a gargoyle or something 11:36:33 oh, or lava serpents in the moat 11:36:40 gargoyles can fly 11:36:46 yeah garg is bad for that reason 11:36:55 lava serpents could be ok tho 11:36:56 make it a minotaur with a bardiche :P 11:37:09 still bad 11:37:12 oh 11:37:24 well actual minotaur would be fine if we were allowed to add more than one living minotaur 11:37:30 but obv we can't :P 11:37:36 Asterion (12H) | Spd: 10 | HD: 15 | HP: 130 | AC/EV: 4/4 04(headbutt: d20-1) | Dam: 35, 20 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, priest, evil, spellcaster, see invisible | Res: 06magic(100) | Vul: 08holy, 11silver | XP: 2565 | Sp: major destruction (3d20 / 3d24 / 3d27 / 3d28 / 3d22 / 3d6 / 3d25) [11!AM], spectral weapon, haste | Sz: Medium | Int: normal. 11:37:36 %??asterion 11:37:45 time to remove....? 11:37:54 !send wheals Depths minotaurs 11:37:55 Sending Depths minotaurs to wheals. 11:37:56 more than one to the lab, obv!!! 11:38:10 Grunt: you took the send out of my mouth....... 11:38:26 !send Depths PleasingFungus 11:38:26 Sending PleasingFungus to Depths. 11:38:36 aiiii 11:38:49 !send PleasingFungus caustic shrikes 11:38:50 Sending caustic shrikes to PleasingFungus. 11:38:51 oh nice, the submodule dependency is only in sdl2? 11:38:58 grunt: I finally found the page where I got gcc 4.7.3 working on 12.04. http://charette.no-ip.com:81/programming/2011-12-24_GCCv47/ basically I can do: sudo update-alternatives --config gcc and select either 4.6 or 4.7. doing that will make gcc --version output the correct version 11:39:04 johnstein: a h a 11:39:28 so maybe even though I set it properly to 4.7 via sudo update-alternatives --config gcc, it's getting circumvented during the rebuild 11:39:34 ... or something 11:39:36 wait 11:39:38 hm 11:40:51 hrm, modified: contrib/sdl (untracked content) 11:41:05 I've updated submodules and am on branch sdl2 11:41:29 johnstein: remember that you need to do that with g++ too 11:41:34 update-alternatives --config g++ that is 11:41:43 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 11:42:00 oh that's sdl 1 isn't it 11:42:30 gammafunk: yes 11:42:32 1.2 11:43:17 Grunt: do you know why it shows that submodule as having untracked content even for master? 11:43:35 gammafunk: cd source/contrib/sdl ; git status 11:43:51 well "cd contrib/sdl" I guess 11:43:53 oh maybe it's this untracked file 11:43:55 -!- aleksiL has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 11:43:56 y e s 11:44:38 that's annoying, why doesn't it ignore that dagnabit 11:44:47 because it's not in .gitignore 11:45:15 no I mean for reporting on submodules, seems like you'd never want to see reports about untracked stuff in submodules 11:45:28 unless you were in the submodule, but w/e 11:45:37 because it means you're potentially building against something unclean 11:45:53 hrm, I suppose that's true 11:46:03 You win *this* round, Grunt 11:46:20 muhahahahahahahaha 11:46:24 -!- tigertrap has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:46:29 * gammafunk says to Grunt's argument, "We will meet again!" 11:46:51 <3 11:48:10 -!- Sharkman1231 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:48:21 hrm 11:48:24 In file included from IMG.c:28: 11:48:24 ./SDL_image.h:27:10: fatal error: 'SDL.h' file not found 11:48:49 huh 11:48:53 tmons used to be in slime 11:48:54 yes this is a bizarre dependency loop I haven't quite figured out yet 11:49:31 oh I have an idea 11:51:07 03Grunt02 07[sdl2] * 0.16-a0-1979-g8a14472: Build contribs in the right order and link them in the right order. 10(43 seconds ago, 1 file, 7+ 7-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=8a14472387c3 11:51:30 that commit comment....... 11:51:39 PleasingFungus: l o o p y 11:52:37 probably won't be available for testing tonight 11:52:40 on this, the most friday of nights 11:54:16 -!- theTower has joined ##crawl-dev 11:55:58 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 11:55:58 crawl-ref/crawl-ref#241 (sdl2 - c371c2d : Steve Melenchuk): The build is still failing. 11:55:58 Change view : https://github.com/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/compare/15d3014c0ae2...c371c2d767e7 11:55:58 Build details : http://travis-ci.org/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/builds/40313979 11:55:58 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 11:56:05 r i p 11:57:51 Grunt: sudo update-alternatives --config g++ gives me: update-alternatives: error: no alternatives for g++. 11:58:00 johnstein: what about "c++" 11:58:04 doesn't this keep them linked? sudo update-alternatives --install /usr/bin/gcc gcc /usr/bin/gcc-4.7 40 --slave /usr/bin/g++ g++ /usr/bin/g++-4.7 11:58:06 oh 11:58:31 jmbjr@www: /var/www/crawl/dev$ sudo update-alternatives --config c++ 11:58:33 There is only one alternative in link group c++: /usr/bin/g++ 11:58:34 Nothing to configure. 11:58:38 r i p 11:58:45 -!- heteroy has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:58:56 jmbjr@www: /var/www/crawl/dev$ c++ --version 11:58:57 c++ (Ubuntu/Linaro 4.7.3-2ubuntu1~12.04) 4.7.3 11:59:02 Grunt: Makefile:1107: *** Recursive variable `CONTRIB_LIBS' references itself (eventually). Stop. 11:59:16 talk about loopy.... 11:59:36 :( 12:01:19 03Grunt02 07[sdl2] * 0.16-a0-1980-g98babd5: Be less loopy in the Makefile (gammafunk). 10(26 seconds ago, 1 file, 3+ 3-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=98babd59f255 12:02:00 are you migrating tiles to sdl2? 12:02:40 oh, i only broke local tiles this time 12:03:29 yes 12:03:49 hrm 12:04:10 CC IMG_bmp.o 12:04:10 * rebuilding sdl2: new build flags or prefix 12:04:10 make[2]: *** No rule to make target `src/filesystem/cocoa/*.o', needed by `libSDL2.a'. Stop. 12:05:35 Grunt: ^ 12:05:55 fr: an automated build sequence, so that travis doesn't fail when i don't check local tiles 12:06:12 maybe we could find a website that does automatic builds for it... 12:06:28 Grunt: looks like more replacing .o with .m? 12:06:44 -!- Taraiph has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:06:45 er .c with .m 12:06:50 .mm 12:09:25 if I do that I get 12:09:36 AR libSDL2main.a 12:09:36 CC IMG_lbm.o 12:09:36 ar: no archive members specified 12:09:57 looks like stuff we need from sdl2-config or w/e 12:10:11 -!- aleksiL has quit [Client Quit] 12:10:12 gammafunk: oh I fixed these with PleasingFungus yesterday 12:10:12 sec 12:13:08 03Grunt02 07[sdl2] * 0.16-a0-1981-g365365e: Poke SDL2 contrib for OS X fixes. 10(25 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=365365e1c871 12:13:52 !learn add lasty_to_do ru still needs to be adjusted for sprints at some point (altars added, piety de-multiplied, offer frequency multiplied?) 12:13:52 lasty to do[9/9]: ru still needs to be adjusted for sprints at some point (altars added, piety de-multiplied, offer frequency multiplied?) 12:14:16 I have trouble deciding if Ru is a great/terrible/okay god for Sprints 12:14:41 Has anyone successfully gotten MinGW working? 12:16:56 -!- causative_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 12:17:09 Grunt: after running /bin/sh ./libtool --mode=link gcc -o build/libSDL2... there's the error libtool: link: only absolute run-paths are allowed 12:18:06 w h a t 12:18:54 one sec 12:19:11 -!- causative_ is now known as Guest73052 12:19:26 I need to leave now :( 12:20:01 me too 12:20:10 r i p 12:22:06 -!- ystael_ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 12:22:12 heh, Grunt RANLIB libSDL2main.a 12:22:13 make[2]: *** No rule to make target `../install/x86_64-apple-darwin14.0.0/share/man/man3/*.3', needed by `install'. Stop. 12:23:33 gammafunk: hm 12:23:35 had a thought just now 12:23:48 do you think it would be good to change box of beasts in the same way that shadowrod was 12:24:09 %git 9dedd774a5 12:24:09 07Grunt02 * 0.16-a0-1789-g9dedd77: Buff the rod of shadows. 10(6 days ago, 1 file, 11+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=9dedd774a5ac 12:24:12 but for beasts 12:25:15 PleasingFungus: well the beast population is just this ad-hoc list 12:25:37 a few things should be added to that list, but there aren't all that many that can be 12:26:12 ya but 12:26:18 - remind me where the list lives? 12:26:20 the idea being theme and not making weird, game-breaking chimera I guess 12:26:31 I think in the evoke cc file 12:26:35 w/e that's called 12:26:41 pop_beasts maybe? 12:26:57 !source evoke.cc 12:26:58 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/evoke.cc;hb=HEAD 12:27:04 good memory 12:27:22 -!- Piginabag has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:27:36 anyway, you'd just do something like 12:27:57 const int pick_level = you.skill(SK_EVOCATIONS) + 5; 12:28:18 instead of the current max(1, you.skill(SK_EVOCATIONS)) 12:28:25 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 12:29:40 huh, why on earth does xom like beastbox 12:30:59 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 12:30:59 crawl-ref/crawl-ref#242 (master - a6a438f : Shmuale Mark): The build failed. 12:30:59 Change view : https://github.com/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/compare/c204b2e1f4a8...a6a438f4eb23 12:30:59 Build details : http://travis-ci.org/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/builds/40314299 12:30:59 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 12:31:01 does the box cap the chimera summons? I feel like it maybe should 12:32:40 the number active at once? 12:32:53 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 12:34:25 idk. there's already a charge limit and a chance of failure with each use 12:34:35 I think it's okay to let people try to panicspam, given it'll run them out of beasts quickly 12:35:40 feels like it'll step on sack of spiders more and prevent us maybe from making the chimeras actually meaningfully good in the chimera sense 12:35:52 the chimera bit is *supposed* to be the interesting part 12:36:39 wait, what will step on sack of spiders more? 12:36:41 but I don't feel too strongly about BoB, and would support changes including removal of chimeras (and some other approach) 12:36:44 increasing base chimera power? 12:36:53 You step on the sack of spiders! You hear a squish. 12:36:54 no I mean allowing it to spam beasts 12:37:06 as opposed to just having one strong beast 12:37:11 I didn't suggest changing anything about that.... 12:37:24 yes I know, I'm suggesting it probably should only allow one at a time 12:38:12 not that this isn't also a challenge to balance, but I think if they're not fairly strong,the chimera part ends up being mostly an afterthought 12:38:25 chimeras are probably just a bad idea anyhow 12:38:35 possibly 12:38:50 idk. I think I'm going to let the perfect not be the enemy of the good 12:38:53 and increment an integer by five 12:39:01 larger changes can be made when someone has a solid plan 12:39:24 -!- Guest73052 is now known as causative 12:39:30 -!- causative has quit [Changing host] 12:42:51 silly idea: to make each chimera and their unique silliness mean more... have one perma-ally chimera produced per box and nothing else 12:43:12 it's like a bottled something something 12:43:23 yeah 12:43:29 (also, uh, make them poly immune) 12:43:57 I mean I feel that the problem with chimeras is that they're allies only, so what is "being a chimera ally" supposed to mean to the player? 12:44:27 a rand-dragon 12:44:38 you provide support and understand without judgement? 12:44:40 that's at least coherent 12:46:06 (well, they have random breath weapons, speeds, still melee-only attacks, maybe berserk, ...) 12:46:26 erm, plain melee, I mean, aside from rare constrict? need to check the list myself 12:46:32 something something "permanent allies are a bad play experience" 12:46:36 I like the chimera idea, though it's certainly true that the average BoB chimera suffers from being absurdly weak. In some ways chimeras would work better as enemies -- as an ally, the beast rarely lives long enough for you to make sense of what its various heads mean for you, but as enemies you see directly how dangerous they are. 12:47:10 well the weakness is adjustable in the way PF is doing and is not a hard problem to solve 12:47:14 agreed 12:47:25 Lasty_: yes. I mentioned chimeras as enemies the other day, but got unceremoniously shown my place :) 12:47:27 it's more "what are these allies about"? Like nem summons are pretty good with this 12:47:29 pleasingfungus: when you have to customize them and when you could just be using summons or another god anywayyyyy 12:47:47 imo customizable permanent allies are the only good kind 12:47:53 and the sac is pretty good with this; I have a good idea of what a "spider ally" will be like attribute-wise 12:47:59 FR: toolkit, you can optimise your chimera 12:48:00 the problem with permanent allies is about the play experience of trying to keep them alive 12:48:17 ...pretty much, yes 12:48:19 yeah I'd prefer just a cap of one and have them be summons maybe 12:48:27 PleasingFungus: could be like Brogue's phoenix 12:48:50 brogue's phoenix, I am obliged to say, is much weaker than any of the other legendary allies >_> 12:49:03 I really am not convinced that the cap of one is necessary. it seems like a Premature Balancing Decision 12:49:07 but feh 12:49:09 box of felids 12:49:17 theTower: I know! But I am mentioning it as a way to get around the problem with permanent allies. 12:49:22 wheals: what, half the time a zombie comes out? 12:49:44 dpeg_: it comes back after a little bit? 12:49:45 * wheals touches PleasingFungus. PleasingFungus looks unstable. 12:49:53 * PleasingFungus vanishes! 12:50:00 I don't like chimera enemies because there's a lot of aspects that would just blend all together, like how people complain about demonspawn / draconian races 12:50:14 Just thinking aloud here: chimerae are basically randart monsters. To a large extent we expect players to learn about monsters by fighting them, but as randarts, each chimera will be unique-ish, making it hard to learn about them . . . 12:50:15 -!- winlu has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 12:50:17 either that or they're vastly complicated every time you see one 12:50:42 more or less what theTower said 12:51:03 yeah +1 on no chimera enemies 12:51:10 I just can't see a need for them 12:51:33 current list: speed, poison, random invis, af_ice, swiftness, berserk, trample, petri-breath, constrict, holy brand, fire breath, ice breath, poison cloud breath 12:51:53 tbh it might be a lot better 12:51:59 sure 12:52:00 to choose chimera monsters based on attributes 12:52:03 PleasingFungus: yes, but it drops something (a feather?) which can be killed by monsters. 12:52:07 rather than on just "depth" 12:52:08 My original conception for chimera (which may not have influenced mumra at all) was that chimerae would pull from a very limited number of types of heads (dragon, hound, asp or something like that), and so there'd be a relatively small pool of possible chimerae and they'd be relatively intelligible 12:52:12 maybe attribute by depth 12:52:16 phoenixes drop eggs 12:52:29 right, eggs 12:52:51 why a whole feather? surely all you need is the down... 12:52:54 anyhow will be backlater 12:52:55 the list of chimera stuff is mostly for evo scaling, and by that I mean making it need a 12:52:57 Seeing a "hound-hound-asp" chimera would tell you that it sees invis and can poison you; seeing dragon-dragon-dragon would tell you you're about to get triple fire breath 12:52:57 -!- gammafunk has quit [Quit: leaving] 12:53:03 !banish pleasingfungus 12:53:04 theTower casts a spell. pleasingfungus is devoured by a tear in reality! 12:53:12 :p 12:53:14 I thought of chimera monsters like random pan lords, only much earlier. 12:53:27 some day I'm gonna implement panlord poly 12:53:30 anyway, gotta go 12:53:36 later, 'peg! 12:53:39 cya 12:53:54 !send dpeg_ the mollusc lord 12:53:54 Sending the mollusc lord to dpeg_. 12:53:57 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:53:58 lasty: that is interesting, especially "asp" because it'd probably be good to avoid any connotations with any other current monsters >_> 12:53:59 Lasty_: yeah, I think using clearly iconic effects like that is the best way to go 12:54:11 theTower: connotations in terms of strength? 12:54:19 yeah 12:54:30 could work 12:54:34 "hound" can mean a lot of things 12:54:48 well, three things, but 12:54:52 yeah, hound is a bad example. I don't recall what the original ones were. 12:54:59 idk, I might want to avoid hound too. war dog, clearly 12:55:26 archerfish, primal wave breathweapon 12:55:50 -!- MgDark_ is now known as MgDark 12:56:10 Probably the better way to come up with head types is to determine what's interesting to swap in and name based on that: weak, strong, poisonous, ranged, etc. 12:56:39 ya 12:56:51 also fwiw I think we should drop the whole different move types mechanic 12:56:56 just heads 12:56:58 -!- kipster has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:57:02 yeah 12:57:03 agreed 12:57:10 a sacrifice I will accept 12:57:12 try to keep as much stable between chimerae as possible 12:57:18 03wheals02 07* 0.16-a0-1980-g3d4331f: Fix local tiles compilation. 10(2 minutes ago, 2 files, 2+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=3d4331f3a673 12:57:20 lasty is all about sacrifice 12:57:27 !tell travis-ci i fixed it, ok? 12:57:28 wheals: OK, I'll let travis-ci know. 12:57:37 Correction: Ru is all about sacrifice and Lasty is all about Ru 12:58:03 really I'm all about meaningful choices 12:58:16 in this context, meaningful choices of heads 12:58:41 when does choosing heads ever come up what does crawl do to us 12:59:36 -!- link_108 has joined ##crawl-dev 12:59:45 for chimera player race 12:59:48 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:00:02 Why stop at picking heads? Let players choose every one of their body parts? 13:00:18 legs made of phoenix feathers 13:00:29 "Liver: (a) Elf (b) Vampire (c) Pan lord 13:00:45 arms of meteoric steel 13:01:15 That player will have trouble standing up and might periodically start on fire. 13:03:24 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 13:03:24 crawl-ref/crawl-ref#243 (sdl2 - 8a14472 : Steve Melenchuk): The build is still failing. 13:03:24 Change view : https://github.com/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/compare/c371c2d767e7...8a14472387c3 13:03:24 Build details : http://travis-ci.org/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/builds/40318311 13:03:24 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 13:03:24 travis-ci: You have 2 messages. Use !messages to read them. 13:03:48 (maybe some day I will actually play ivan, probably not) 13:05:15 Lasty_: as long as i get to pick fruit bat 13:05:30 simmarine: is fruit megabat okay? 13:05:39 ill accept that 13:13:12 -!- Unano has quit [Client Quit] 13:20:05 -!- Mazed has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:23:17 -!- johnny0 has quit [Quit: leaving] 13:31:34 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 13:32:49 -!- NilsBloodaxe has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:36:19 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 13:36:19 crawl-ref/crawl-ref#244 (sdl2 - 98babd5 : Steve Melenchuk): The build is still failing. 13:36:19 Change view : https://github.com/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/compare/8a14472387c3...98babd59f255 13:36:19 Build details : http://travis-ci.org/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/builds/40319482 13:36:19 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 13:41:01 -!- Mazed has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:49:20 -!- zxc232 has joined ##crawl-dev 13:50:51 -!- |amethyst has joined ##crawl-dev 13:51:46 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus, bh: thanks for the mails 13:51:46 |amethyst: You have 6 messages. Use !messages to read them. 13:51:54 <3 13:52:17 <|amethyst> I was stressing out over a grant proposal, myself 13:52:21 <|amethyst> which is now done 13:52:24 nice! 13:52:30 best of luck wrt the grant 13:52:33 can you say what it's for? 13:52:34 <|amethyst> thanks 13:53:06 <|amethyst> it's an internal grant to revise our intro CS course (that I am helping teach this semester) 13:53:25 <|amethyst> to turn the whole thing (instead of about 1/3) into a "flipped"/hybrid class 13:53:42 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 13:53:52 <|amethyst> and to use more automated grading, because the number of TAs we have isn't enough to handle the workload 13:54:17 <|amethyst> ("The TAs are revolting!" "Also, they are rebelling.") 13:54:17 flipped/hybrid? 13:54:22 haha 13:54:28 rude 13:55:15 Your quarterstaff "Zamiati" {drain, Str+3 SInv Stlth--} hits the komodo dragon. Your quarterstaff "Zamiati" {drain, Str+3 SInv Stlth--} drains the komodo dragon! 13:55:21 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: instead of a big lecture, students watch lecture videos and in class work on team lab assignments under the guidance of a faculty member 13:55:22 hooray newdance 13:55:22 -!- Mazed has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:55:44 theTower: beware the stealth cost!!! 13:55:53 |amethyst: ahh, interesting 13:55:57 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: part of the reason I got so annoyed, I think, is that I spent an hour or two upgrading CSZO when I should have been working on the grant 13:56:18 I wonder if the non-brands should be vorpal to try and prevent the randarts from getting better brands than default 13:57:06 |amethyst: gotcha 13:57:06 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: but water under the bridge; and I see now it was not for naught 13:57:11 :) 13:57:15 and now I'm on 10.10! 13:57:19 clearly the greatest accomplishment of all 13:57:28 <|amethyst> I was worried the Mac thing would mean another year before we made the transition 13:57:35 understandably 13:57:41 gammafunk & grunt did great work 13:57:57 I was pretty startled by how fast they worked 13:58:13 <|amethyst> Maybe I should ragequit more often 13:58:17 <|amethyst> if it gets things done 13:58:21 <|amethyst> :P 13:58:27 :P 13:59:27 <|amethyst> hm, I haven't looked at the whole chain of commit yet, have their been problems related to the ouch() de-mindexification? 13:59:39 to my enormous shock, I haven't seen any 13:59:39 -!- MIC132 has joined ##crawl-dev 13:59:42 <|amethyst> s/their/there/ 13:59:46 it's been blessedly quiet for the last day or two 13:59:50 in terms of crashes & bug reports 13:59:56 <|amethyst> specifically, I was worried about dead monsters 13:59:57 <|amethyst> cool 14:00:08 I'm certain that *some* amazing bug will fall out of that refactor 14:00:11 but I haven't seen any yet 14:00:17 Lasty_: Any luck fixnig that thing? 14:00:28 !send MIC132 that thing 14:00:29 Sending that thing to MIC132. 14:00:33 !send MIC132 stuff 14:00:34 Sending stuff to MIC132. 14:00:44 PleasingFungus: Wat? 14:01:12 "have you done anything about that thing?" is a pretty funny thing to say, is all 14:01:15 no, I haven't been able to work on it. I'll probably be working on it for most of the evevning 14:01:43 Well, it's not a funny thing to say if there is only one thing I might be reffernig to 14:02:21 Damn, I also didn't manage antything. And I really don't want to reinstal whole msysgit. 14:02:59 |amethyst: btw, in melee_attack.cc, there's some aux code that's modeled closely on an old version of form objects (before you refactored them) 14:03:02 msysgit is still stuck at 4.4.0 afaik 14:03:05 I'll leave the IRC on, if you manage to fix it somehow, PM me. 14:03:09 * geekosaur is going to upgrade the macbook air to 10.10 this weekend, btw. desktop is remaining 10.9 14:03:13 Yeah, that's the second problem 14:03:18 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: I need to look into form object stuff for C++11 14:03:39 And somehow just installing mingw into folder inside existing msysgit causes the problems I mentined earlier (which you also had) 14:04:13 |amethyst: I vaguely remember you had some ideas for improving them 14:04:34 !source melee_attack.cc:1233 14:04:35 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/melee_attack.cc;hb=HEAD#l1233 14:04:38 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: I don't remember now what they were... won't get a chance to work on anything today though 14:04:40 the aux stuff is somewhere around here 14:04:44 ya, no rush 14:05:39 -!- owl has joined ##crawl-dev 14:05:40 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: one thing I would do that isn't related 14:06:06 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: instead of making damage, noise_factor, and name protected, make them private and have the subclasses call the base class version 14:06:23 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: the subclass methods that is, and the base class versions of those methods 14:06:49 ah, yeah 14:06:56 I'm not sure why I didn't do it that way 14:07:17 You draw a card... It is Degeneration. The five-headed hydra evaporates and reforms as a fire dragon! The fire dragon twists and deforms. 14:07:32 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: I really feel like there's some way to do this with templates, but I can't think of how to do that without having default versions of the derived class methods that just call the base class method 14:07:33 hydra (09D) | Spd: 10 (swim: 60%) | HD: 13 | HP: 58-86 | AC/EV: 0/5 | Dam: 18 per head | amphibious, cold-blooded, regen | Res: 06magic(60), 03poison, 12drown | Chunks: 09poison | XP: 976 | Sz: Big | Int: reptile. 14:07:33 %??hydra 14:07:35 fire dragon (03D) | Spd: 10 | HD: 12 | HP: 77-105 | AC/EV: 10/8 | Dam: 20, 13, 1307(trample) | fly | Res: 06magic(60), 05fire++, 03poison, 12drown | Vul: 12cold | XP: 1068 | Sp: fire breath (3d24) [11!AM, 06!sil, 08breath] | Sz: Giant | Int: animal. 14:07:35 %??fire dragon 14:07:47 hey, lost a point of HD! 14:07:47 and here I was about to say all my card draws at 2* with 12 evo were satisfying and worthwhile :P 14:07:56 rip 14:07:59 draw again :) 14:08:26 -!- mineral has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 14:08:57 fortitude, helm, fortitude, potion for berserk, squashed 14:09:05 "okay nemelex is good-ish now" 14:09:22 * PleasingFungus squashes theTower like an dragon! 14:10:45 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: maybe a mix-in template for singletons would avoid having to repeat the instance() method definition 14:11:08 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: I don't know, though. I'm still learning how to do modern C++ 14:12:22 I am currently googling for & reading about mixins 14:12:26 so I think you're ahead of me 14:13:12 <|amethyst> hm, maybe DISALLOW_COPY_AND_ASSIGN should also delete the move constructor and move-assignment operator (and get a new name) 14:13:35 |amethyst: what did you have to do to get trunk to build again? 14:13:38 <|amethyst> but maybe not, since I can imagine situations where you'd want to prevent copying but not moving 14:13:58 <|amethyst> johnstein: on cszo; I did a dist-upgrade from squeeze to wheezy 14:14:01 <|amethyst> s/;/?/ 14:14:18 "a dist-upgrade from squeeze to wheezy". what a world we live in 14:14:46 I've never dist-upgraded before so I'm worried something will get borked. did you have to update the chroots? 14:14:54 s/chroots/chroot/ 14:17:04 -!- Mazed has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 14:17:09 <|amethyst> johnstein: yeah, I dist-upgraded the chroot too 14:17:24 <|amethyst> johnstein: though now that I think about it, I didn't have to on CAO 14:17:28 |amethyst: and ran into no complications? 14:18:02 <|amethyst> johnstein: none that I saw, but you do need to make sure the chroot has all the libraries that Crawl is linked against (including the correct libstdc++ version) 14:18:26 libstdc++ has been the bane of my server 14:18:29 <|amethyst> heh 14:19:22 <|amethyst> what errors are you getting? 14:21:25 |amethyst: during rebuild: /usr/include/c++/4.6/bits/stl_pair.h:99:31: error: expected unqualified-id before ‘)’ token 14:21:26 /usr/include/c++/4.6/bits/stl_pair.h:103:31: error: expected unqualified-id before ‘const’ 14:21:28 /usr/include/c++/4.6/bits/stl_pair.h:103:31: error: expected ‘)’ before ‘const’ 14:21:36 but gcc/g++/c++ --version all says 4.7.3 14:22:24 <|amethyst> johnstein: do you have libstdc++6-4.7-dev ? 14:24:58 -!- eliotn has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:25:15 <|amethyst> johnstein: and does g++ -v mention 4.6 anywhere in the config? 14:25:53 |amethyst: looks like I do: libstdc++6-4.7-dev is already the newest version. 14:25:57 <|amethyst> hm 14:26:04 (when I try to apt-get install it) 14:26:59 |amethyst: I did this a couple months to get dfhack working 14:27:00 http://charette.no-ip.com:81/programming/2011-12-24_GCCv47/ 14:27:10 but sudo update-alternatives --config gcc is set to 4.7 14:27:30 I don't see any 4.6 mentioned in g++ -v 14:27:33 <|amethyst> oh 14:27:51 <|amethyst> what does your .cflags in the crawl-build/crawl-ref/source directory say as the first two words? 14:28:10 <|amethyst> err 14:28:21 <|amethyst> crawl-build/crawl-git-repository/crawl-ref/source/ rather 14:28:53 <|amethyst> it is probably actually building with something like x86_64-linux-gnu-g++ because our Makefile is wonderful 14:29:02 <|amethyst> and that might still be the old version 14:29:35 |amethyst: x86_64-linux-gnu-gcc x86_64-linux-gnu-g++ -O2 -pipe -Wall -Wformat-security...... 14:29:37 <|amethyst> (this isn't purely to annoy you; the Makefile does that so as to force a full rebuild if you change compilers) 14:30:10 <|amethyst> and x86_64-linux-gnu-g++ --version says 4.6 I bet? 14:30:25 -!- Calisca has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:30:53 YES! 14:31:13 <|amethyst> are you using ccache? 14:31:15 so .cflags will override which compiler to use? 14:31:17 uh 14:31:30 remind me how to check 14:31:33 <|amethyst> johnstein: no, the Makefile does; .ccache is just to track changes 14:31:37 storm took three tries to kill me 14:31:50 <|amethyst> johnstein: type x86_64-linux-gnu-g++ # "type" is the command 14:31:55 without any distance a twister summon is just too much early on 14:31:58 <|amethyst> johnstein: it should give you a path 14:32:21 |amethyst: x86_64-linux-gnu-g++ is /usr/bin/x86_64-linux-gnu-g++ 14:32:36 <|amethyst> so at least not that way of using ccache 14:32:45 <|amethyst> and now that I look, that wouldn't cause the problem anyway 14:32:52 <|amethyst> I imagine there isn't al alternative for that? 14:32:56 <|amethyst> s/al/an/ 14:33:11 <|amethyst> (it's a symlink, probably pointing to x86_64-linux-gnu-g++-4.6) 14:33:43 -!- johnny0 has joined ##crawl-dev 14:33:45 theTower: +1 for cards that kill you 14:33:57 <|amethyst> johnstein: ohh, those instructions have you make your own alternatives 14:34:11 |amethyst: http://pastebin.com/4b25RucC 14:35:05 yea. I have both installed still. but I may not have fully appreciated all the implications of that 14:35:07 <|amethyst> johnstein: I guess you'll need to follow those update-alternative steps for x86_64-linux-gnu-g++ and not just for gcc/g++ 14:35:20 <|amethyst> oh 14:35:26 <|amethyst> I see, it has slaves 14:35:35 ontoclasm: if I want to nearly die to a card that's what pain's torment is for 14:35:51 <|amethyst> you'll need slaves for those x86_64-linux-gnu-g++ etc too 14:35:58 erm, nearly die to a _destruction_ card 14:36:15 <|amethyst> I haven't set up alternatives by hand in some time, so I'm not sure I could give you accurate instructions 14:36:42 |amethyst: I'm not even certain I need it 14:36:45 <|amethyst> at the very worst, you change the link by hand for now and then things break when you upgrade your OS g++ packages 14:36:56 good point 14:37:06 <|amethyst> except that, when you do upgrade those packages, it will probably be to 4.7 or higher anyway 14:37:25 <|amethyst> so it will break your customisations but you won't need those anymore :) 14:37:28 -!- Mazed has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 14:37:43 <|amethyst> but I guess there are point releases... 14:37:53 -!- FlowRiser has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:38:12 I'd just dist-upgrade, but if anything goes wrong I don't have a ton of free time to spend unborking it. (aka I'm a busy coward) 14:38:23 changing the symlink is probably good enough for now 14:38:39 <|amethyst> johnstein: you probably want to change the -gcc and -cpp ones as well 14:38:42 <|amethyst> johnstein: just in case 14:38:43 -!- owl is now known as read 14:39:04 yea. I'm just going to change all 6s to 7s 14:39:17 I'm sure that is the appropriate thing 14:39:23 <|amethyst> that's a weird numerical coprocessor you have there 14:39:27 <|amethyst> the x87_74 14:39:29 -!- Codrus has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:39:49 trying to stay on the bleeding edge 14:40:44 <|amethyst> fun fact: the 486 SX was just a 486 DX with the numerical processor omitted (in some runs, just diked off the die) 14:41:03 <|amethyst> the 487 SX was the coprocessor upgrade... 14:41:17 <|amethyst> but that was actually just a 486 DX with a different pinout 14:41:33 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 14:41:36 <|amethyst> it replaced your system CPU rather than actually being a coprocessor 14:43:13 <|amethyst> oh, hm 14:43:40 <|amethyst> the Pentium FDIV bug (or its publication rather) turned 20 a few weeks ago 14:44:36 -!- stanzill has quit [Changing host] 14:45:11 |amethyst: surely you mean 19.99999999999999167 14:45:14 :) 14:45:25 |amethyst: welcome back btw! 14:45:43 <|amethyst> more like 19.998 14:45:56 <|amethyst> it was a pretty significant error in some cases 14:46:55 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 14:46:56 * ontoclasm convulses! 14:47:26 |amethyst: I think that did it! 14:47:36 * Bloax gestures at ontoclasm 14:47:51 when in doubt, just screw around with symlinks 14:49:03 -!- __miek has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 14:49:21 hmmm, how to move a mgen_data location a random few squares from you.pos() 14:51:06 Check the god wrath code, or maybe the monster Haunt codd? 14:51:07 displacement arrows do a weird thing that's sort of like that 14:51:10 *code 14:51:23 iirc they try twice and choose the one that's further away? 14:51:26 it's been a while 14:54:03 -!- ElanMorin has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.0.1] 14:54:26 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 14:56:16 just want to say that of course I would ace neil's CS class no question about it 14:57:02 gammafunk: re that last error 14:57:49 gammafunk: find the install: line in the sdl2 makefile and remove the $(MAN_something) from it 14:57:55 PleasingFungus: also Grunt really did all the work same as always! 14:58:01 and actually geekosaur 14:58:10 Grunt: ok 14:58:37 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.16-a0-1980-g3d4331f (34) 14:58:43 1learn add gammafunk PleasingFungus: also Grunt really did all the work same as always! 14:58:53 johnstein: \o/ 14:59:05 I R SYSADMIN 14:59:11 -!- Mazed has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 15:00:05 Grunt: would you say just remove all of the man stuff from the makefile? 15:00:08 johnstein: :) 15:00:18 I see the target and can remove that, of course 15:01:24 gammafunk: v0v I need to figure out why OS X specifically is complaining firat 15:01:27 *firat 15:01:30 *first 15:01:31 rip 15:01:39 fire_at(Grunt) 15:01:41 back to work here.... 15:02:12 robe of the firat 15:03:13 theTower: if you've tought out a "chimera making plan" for the BoB, I can implement it 15:03:16 *thought 15:03:28 -!- Piginabag has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:03:39 I have nothing particularly elaborate set out yet, go bug lasty 15:03:41 there is the issue of should it ever be capped, but I guess I could live with it just having only a few charges 15:03:57 no that sounds like a thing I probably won't do 15:03:59 hrm, haunt uses you.pos() 15:04:00 rude 15:05:01 gammafunk: anyway I'm pre-occupied with playing a few cards games first and foremost >_> 15:05:29 no it's alright, it can be revisited whenever, Nem is a bigger feature by far 15:05:50 let me know if anyone wants a patch to remove both Nem and BoB though, I'm your man 15:06:04 :p 15:06:13 watch as I bring back herd and it only summons chimera 15:06:16 gammafunk: only if you remove felids in the same patch 15:06:18 noooo 15:06:21 Lasty_: done 15:07:22 hmmm, random_near_space 15:08:07 there's also find_habitable_near if that's helpful 15:08:08 -!- heteroy_ has joined ##crawl-dev 15:08:23 ??rod of striking 15:08:23 rod of striking[1/1]: A rod which uses its mana to do 1d(1.5*evo) extra damage per hit (CHECKS AC) when you use it like a weapon, like a inbuilt {infusion}. Each hit drains one of the rod's MP. Its base stats are basically the same as a club's. Before 0.13, it shot 1d8 force bolts. 15:08:50 i'm guessing it was a waste of acquirement 15:09:15 heh 15:09:20 yeah quite likely 15:09:26 i've never bothered but supposedly it's good at 27 evo and mindelay 15:09:28 so 15:09:29 I don't think twisters have very many habitational problems >_> 15:09:30 y'know 15:09:32 just get that 15:09:40 -!- heteroy has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 15:09:47 -!- heteroy_ is now known as heteroy 15:10:06 hrm, can roots from allied treants 15:10:11 +40 club is a cool thing 15:10:13 ground enemies with perma-flight? 15:10:33 shatter tech? :o 15:10:35 I think so...........? 15:10:41 can roots apply to insubstantial things like twisters 15:10:45 -!- Lawman0 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 15:10:50 probably not 15:10:54 but maybe oof? 15:10:58 or are those also 15:11:13 These Are Questions 15:11:26 I don't have any places set up yet for roots, but 15:11:34 (maybe a tmut miscast!!!) 15:11:52 haha 15:12:01 that's pretty cute, but 15:12:20 oh I guess roots can't insta-kill you as they'd only work on floor 15:12:56 -!- krag has joined ##crawl-dev 15:13:04 if we can get special tiles for animated trees and an overlay for roots, that'd rule 15:13:10 thank you rng i definitely wanted a second rod of striking 15:13:25 heteroy: dual-wielded striking 15:13:31 quite powerful 15:13:50 clearly nemelex needs dancing rods 15:13:52 ??dual wielding 15:13:53 double sword[1/1]: (long blades; -1 acc / 15 dam / 1.5 base delay / 0.7 min delay). The highest base damage weapon in the game that you can wield with a shield, minimally better than demon blade and slightly worse than the autumn katana, and exactly the same as an {eveningstar}. Known as a {bastard sword} in 0.14/0.15. 15:14:18 ??triple wielding 15:14:19 I don't have a page labeled triple_wielding in my learndb. 15:14:28 fo buffs 15:14:35 that would be quad wielding, clearly\ 15:14:53 PleasingFungus: I dunno, one hand for a buckler? 15:14:54 what is a triple crossbow considered 15:15:03 "extremely cool" 15:15:17 -!- MIC132 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:15:21 theTower: I *think* roots end once the game notices there's no visible monster causing you to be rooted 15:15:23 I could be wrong 15:15:25 i'm trying to decide if i should really train up xbows for it 15:15:44 they're very strong if you get them to mindelay 15:15:44 I said maybe because it'd be way too much of a headache to actually do 15:15:47 i am a GrAM, but i wasn't expecting to actually stick with ranged combat 15:15:48 but that's a lot of xp 15:15:54 Grunt: looks like we made it past contrib, but now it's failing in tilegen 15:15:55 theTower: heh 15:16:12 Grunt: /Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/usr/bin/make -C rltiles all ARCH=x86_64-apple-darwin14.0.0 TILES=y * rebuilding tilegen: new build flags or prefix HOSTCXX tool/tile_colour.o HOSTCXX tool/tile.o 15:16:14 I'll just leave such roots concerns to whenever rand@s are started 15:16:16 tool/tile.cc:8:12: fatal error: 'SDL.h' file not found 15:16:34 i also have an arbalest of chaos which is just plain fun 15:16:43 ! 15:16:47 quite rare 15:16:50 heteroy: no 15:16:55 the chaos launcher 15:16:58 is the worst launcher 15:17:01 my god man 15:17:12 does chaos launcher only do the random status effects and brand replication 15:17:18 ^version 15:17:19 trunk: 0.16-a0-1980-g3d4331f; 0.14: 0.14.2; 0.13: 0.13.2 15:17:21 without the miscasts or other such chaos funstuff 15:17:29 ^version 15:17:30 trunk: 0.16-a0-1980-g3d4331f; 0.14: 0.14.2; 0.13: 0.13.2 15:17:36 it definitely causes petrify 15:17:38 ah. I had Rotatell on ignore. oops 15:17:44 that's a random status effect! 15:17:44 I just know that it ends up being more suicidal than chaos melee 15:17:47 oh wait that is random status effect 15:18:17 probably could insert stupid things into the status effect list but 15:18:35 turn enemy to pile of gold on death 15:18:55 I think it's mostly on account of two things: ranged users tend to need to keep things at range, and the random haste/might/invis can be very problematic for that 15:19:12 and second is that they have to use it many more times per enemy 15:19:16 or at least significantly more 15:19:22 since it does less damage 15:19:29 also, if i do actually use chaos it's as a stabber 15:19:39 so it increases the chance of bad hijinks occuring 15:19:53 instant headache looking at chaos missile code 15:20:06 yeah stabber seems much more ideal since you end ub stabbing and killing it very fast 15:20:13 -!- Mazed has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 15:20:24 chaos avoids brands the target is immune to (at least, it tries to) 15:20:25 kock is one of my favorite combos 15:20:43 !crash 15:20:43 9868. Ayutzia, XL16 DrHe, T:52878 (milestone): http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/Ayutzia/crash-Ayutzia-20141107-140531.txt 15:20:46 !crash . 15:20:46 7. gammafunk, XL10 KoCK, T:13597 (milestone): http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/gammafunk/crash-gammafunk-20130831-170101.txt 15:20:56 heteroy: my kock crashed and it never recovered 15:21:06 I'm kind of ashamed about it 15:21:23 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 15:21:40 maybe I can even fix this SDL bug without the Grunt 15:21:42 huh, I must have been thinking of chaos clouds 15:21:55 PleasingFungus: i think quad wielding falls pretty solidly in "bad star wars is bad" territory 15:22:21 wheals how serious do you think PleasingFungus was on a scale of 1-10 15:22:24 you need more limbs, and to be a robot 15:22:34 at least 12 serious 15:22:42 ok, well then your comment is justified 15:22:43 http://i.imgur.com/QBExtZ6.jpg I am EXTREMELY serious 15:23:01 ... 15:23:06 PleasingFungus: i think that would be a grevious error 15:23:11 rave skeleton robot 15:23:16 that formicid looks weird 15:23:37 theTower: I think it might be sick!!! 15:23:39 ontoclasm: :p 15:24:08 clone, poly, poly_up, shifter, miscast, berserk, heal, haste, invis, slow, para, petrify 15:24:33 8 Roxanne (paralysed)...arbalest of chaos justified! 15:24:37 haha 15:24:45 Roxanne (028) | Spd: 10 (07stationary) | HD: 14 | HP: 180 | AC/EV: 20/0 | 11non-living, 10items, 10doors, spellcaster | Res: 13magic(immune), 05fire++, 02cold++, 10elec++, 03poison++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | XP: 1948 | Sp: crystal spear (3d32), iron shot (3d26), blink other close, b.magma (3d23), mystic blast (3d19) | Sz: Large | Int: high. 15:24:45 %??roxanne 15:24:54 Animate skeleton fails on hydra corpses 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9154 by 78291 15:24:54 mag(immune), nice 15:25:05 !blame wheals 15:25:06 I pronounce wheals... Guilty! 15:25:07 3/4 chaos effects are bad 15:25:12 do penet bolts with a chaos launcher "work" 15:25:13 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 15:25:13 erm, "negative" 15:25:22 that doesn't sound very chaotic 15:25:26 interesting 15:25:30 I should buff chaos brand to be 1/2 each 15:25:53 ??statueform reasons 15:25:54 I don't have a page labeled statueform_reasons in my learndb. 15:26:40 I realize you're probably not very serious, but the brand is supposed to be kind of a gain for the user 15:26:40 wait, I can't count, that's 8 and 4, 2/3 15:26:57 ehh i've probably put too much into armour 15:27:01 ? item.props[MONSTER_NUMBER].get_short(): 0; 15:27:09 this is in a function that returns an int 15:27:33 gammafunk:... yes, so I would be making four more "positive against a defender" effects?... 15:27:39 still, don't see how that could cause this 15:28:25 heteroy: btw this is ##crawl-dev, not ##crawl 15:28:33 haha my bad 15:28:40 np 15:28:40 also I clearly need to make CHAOS_CLONE work for players 15:28:55 and CHAOS_MAKE_SHIFTER >_> 15:28:58 permanent friendly illusion sounds quite powerful 15:29:11 who said anything about permanent 15:29:12 theTower: oh, well I guess I found your language confusing: 3/4 chaos effects are bad ... that doesn't sound very chaotic...buff to 1/2 each 15:29:24 yes, I bad words 15:29:38 CHAOS_CLONE is permanent for monsters :P 15:29:40 but yeah I also didn't read carefully 15:29:41 afaik? 15:29:59 oh 15:30:03 turn_corpse_into_skeleton clears props 15:30:07 !blame PleasingFungus 15:30:07 I pronounce PleasingFungus... Guilty! 15:30:08 it is, but this is already asymmetric so 15:30:10 -!- WereVolvo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:30:19 !blame . 15:30:20 I pronounce .... Guilty! 15:30:26 good pronounciation 15:30:47 wheals: I guess just remove the colour prop specifically 15:30:52 instead of clearing all props 15:31:29 FORCED_ITEM_COLOUR_KEY? 15:31:39 yes 15:31:43 huh 15:31:56 it would probably be better if we were explicit about the exact state we wanted to pass from corpse to skeleton 15:31:59 or corpse to chunks, etc 15:32:22 CHAOS_MISCAST's miscast level is biased by target hd 15:32:24 i think this also broke shedu 15:32:24 bizarre 15:32:24 :P 15:32:36 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 15:32:46 (to possibly be stronger with higher hd, is the thing) 15:33:35 ugh 15:33:40 I hate state 15:33:54 ...also, uh 15:33:55 shedu 15:33:55 PleasingFungus is an anarchist??? 15:33:57 fascinating 15:34:24 USER nsf027 PASS smashthestate 15:34:33 anarchy in the fungUS 15:35:10 was that too grunt 15:35:15 or shall i say blunt? 15:37:03 shall you 15:38:59 03wheals02 07* 0.16-a0-1981-gd4e2ff5: Fix hydra animate skeleton (#9154). 10(88 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=d4e2ff5b5463 15:38:59 03wheals02 07* 0.16-a0-1982-g8124c91: Fix Okawaru hydra corpse piety gain. 10(52 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=8124c910e6d9 15:39:14 hm 15:39:27 you should... probably check to make sure the prop actually exists 15:39:29 before reasing it 15:39:30 *erasing 15:39:38 oh 15:40:19 well, it seems to work on a corpse i made by &%corpse 15:41:04 -!- _Jordan_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:41:37 it looks to me safe to call if it doesn't exist 15:41:44 ok 15:41:45 -!- Mazed has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 15:41:49 that's good 15:42:06 fix okawaru...hy... 15:42:21 wheals: congrats, that's a special commit title 15:42:40 wiglaf the hydra 15:42:52 * wheals shouts, "Fluff forty-two Hive!" 15:43:02 * wheals flaps his cloak. 15:43:03 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:43:07 rip 15:43:11 rip crazywheals 15:43:18 it made sense to me! 15:43:21 oh right, I will have to be careful about what this implies about yiuf 15:43:28 PleasingFungus: you are a xom worshiper, clearly 15:43:49 -!- LexAckson has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 15:43:57 ...it took you this long? 15:44:12 !gamesby PleasingFungus god=xom 15:44:12 PleasingFungus (god=xom) has played 16 games, between 2014-03-14 23:48:49 and 2014-09-04 00:41:33, won 1 (6.2%), high score 14179451, total score 14277216, total turns 170954, play-time/day 0:04:46, total time 13:56:39. 15:44:15 I thought devs were demigods 15:44:38 !gamesby . god=xom 15:44:38 gammafunk (god=xom) has played 124 games, between 2012-11-19 05:57:27 and 2014-02-15 00:45:16, won 0, high score 126164, total score 204680, total turns 473394, play-time/day 0:05:49, total time 1d+20:05:46. 15:44:41 !hs * sp xom 15:44:43 2772. Yermak the Ninja (L22 SpCK of Xom), escaped with the Orb and 15 runes on 2014-09-05 03:17:27, with 34725127 points after 41797 turns and 10:14:31. 15:44:47 yermak!! 15:44:53 sad thing is I ditched xom for sif or veh all those 15:45:43 a query of the form !hs * sp $* will usually return Yermak 15:45:53 !gamesby Yermak sp 15:45:53 Yermak (sp) has played 1216 games, between 2011-10-27 15:51:55 and 2014-11-04 08:40:54, won 67 (5.5%), high score 54334266, total score 953108996, total turns 12255562, play-time/day 1:34:52, total time 72d+19:07:58. 15:46:00 sixty-seven 15:46:09 he's 2/3 of a century spriggan 15:46:47 !gamesby Yermak 15:46:48 Yermak has played 1872 games, between 2010-06-07 11:25:07 and 2014-11-07 05:11:46, won 123 (6.6%), high score 54334266, total score 1603185978, total turns 22634351, play-time/day 1:55:48, total time 129d+21:22:47. 15:47:02 Grunt: soo, you recommend I make some more V$ vaults? regular 098 vaults? or is it time for lesson 2? 15:47:04 sp are over half his wins 15:47:21 over three thousand hours 15:47:28 johnstein: theTower is a good person to ask for vault assigments 15:47:53 you could not find two more opposite people with tons of vault making experience than Grunt and hangedman 15:48:48 gammafunk: thanks! theTower has definitely helped as well. Grunt just keeps alluding to 'the next thing he has for me' :P 15:48:48 -!- fridurmus has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:48:52 Grunt gives you newlines, theTower gives you inscrutable advice-poetry 15:49:29 ontoclasm 15:49:31 er 15:49:38 johnstein: be very afraid! 15:49:50 * ontoclasm flickers. 15:50:03 rng_ontoclasm 15:52:07 'make three decorative vaults for an "irregular" branch (i.e. lair / lair branches besides snake) subtle enough to place every game and not feel over the top. decorative items are acceptable, clouds or liquids only if placed without interfering with entering / traversing the vault. no blood, corpses, statues, grates, glass, stone arches, or shops.' 15:54:01 'ideally, also make the terrain not boring to fight in' 15:54:57 oh gee, |amethyst? 15:55:08 that means no windows builds for a while 15:55:20 *trunk windows builds 15:55:29 until i find a working mingw gcc 15:56:08 was it really necessary to add this incompatible stuff that only gcc 4.7 can compile?! 15:56:17 *sigh* 15:59:23 -!- Blomdor has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:59:55 we've been talking about the c++11 change for a while, iirc 16:02:22 -!- Mazed has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:06:00 |amethyst told me on 2 days ago 16:06:09 Napkin: is the mingw gcc version restriction that specific? it's not 4.7 or later, or does mingw only support as recent as 4.7? 16:06:31 now i'm neither motivated nor do i have time to get mingw working and the chroot updated 16:07:08 not sure, gammafunk - |amethyst told me cdo needs 4.7 - and today i see all builds failing 16:07:08 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:07:22 ah 16:08:36 -!- _Jordan_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:08:55 well as long as we can compile on windows manually, it's not critical to have regular windows builds 16:09:10 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 16:10:44 Napkin: sorry about the change being dropped on you abruptly like that; we're trying to move to c++11 and get the game ported to SDL2, and it's no surprise that non-linux regular builds would get broken 16:11:30 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 16:12:25 PleasingFungus: were you planning to partake of the joy of running a server at one point? 16:12:36 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 16:12:49 i could say "work, work, more work, i have enough of work" - but i won't, i'm relaxing with a cold Landbier and relaxing :-P 16:13:30 wish I had a beer, I'm out atm 16:13:33 rip 16:13:34 gammafunk: 16:13:37 why do you ask? 16:13:52 oh well for getting these nightly builds I guess 16:14:46 oh. no, I wasn't really planning that, no 16:14:48 I technically have a server 16:14:53 but only in a very technical sense 16:15:38 did you know that I'm a Video Game Designer? just in an *extremely* technical sense 16:16:15 almost entirely technical 16:16:20 rather 16:16:45 what's your ping to cpo PleasingFungus ? you're in nz right? 16:17:01 california is like new zealand 16:17:07 I was going to say... 16:17:12 oh 16:17:15 pretty close... 16:17:23 I know a guy who grew up in australia 16:17:26 i will upgrade cdo to wheezy anyways soon - the last few packages, at least 16:17:36 and then go through crawl apps as well 16:17:38 I can ask him to ping you to see if his spiritual affinity with his homeland results in low latency 16:17:56 Napkin: yeah no rush on the windows build environment or anything, we can still make windows releases just fine 16:17:57 as a unitarian i couldn't accept that 16:18:13 -!- Calisca2 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 16:20:50 -!- stanzill is now known as stanzglotza 16:23:12 -!- Mazed has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:23:17 gammafunk: we can? 16:24:39 -!- Bron_ has quit [Client Quit] 16:26:04 -!- Bron has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:27:05 -!- GoblinBomb has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 16:29:46 PleasingFungus: sure, why not? this is just doing automated windows builds on CDO 16:29:59 gammafunk: has someone gotten mingw to compile crawl in windows? 16:29:59 Lasty: You have 2 messages. Use !messages to read them. 16:30:37 well we may need to do some work there,but my point is that Napkin not having time to work on mingw/CDO in no way impedes us working with the windows *releases* 16:30:43 ah 16:31:03 since that's just "a dev with access to windows build chain compiles and tests" 16:31:19 Grunt did this for 0.15.2, and of course it'd be nice if others could learn to do it 16:31:58 It's relatively easy for the Windows side of things and I'm happy to walk people through it. :) 16:32:09 Lasty: have you been unable to compile with sdl 1.2.15 and mingw still? 16:32:13 Napkin: what are you running? I FINALLY got things working on 12.04 16:33:01 hehe, johnstein - similar timeframe ;) 16:33:25 debian squeeze with security updates from wheezy - and some more stuff from wheezy 16:33:42 gammafunk: I'm still working on getting a decent install of mingw. I haven't been able to verify a good install, but what I've got installed now doesn't compile for sure. 16:34:10 Lasty: hrm, ok I should try to set it up here with my vm thingy under windows 8 16:34:17 but I think Grunt got it working? 16:34:32 I don't know how he builds/tests for Windows 16:35:07 With a debian chroot. 16:35:34 (wheezy right now but we might need jessie for 0.16) 16:36:37 hmm, I wonder if upgrading venom out of sting into bolt | bolt / arrow | arrow but sticking a poison vuln onto the first two levels would be any good 16:38:43 Grunt: so you're cross-compiling then? how do you actually test the windows binary? 16:39:46 theTower: a poison vuln for the player? 16:39:58 I presume for the monster 16:40:29 gammafunk: wine mostly <_< I do have a Windows VM or two but I hate using those. 16:40:30 hrm, maybe he did mean player 16:40:34 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 16:40:56 Grunt: hahah, I almost threw in a "with wine?" onto the end of that,but thought "nah..." 16:41:12 I guess it's unlikely to work in wine but not natively 16:41:31 yes 16:41:39 very often the reverse is the case 16:41:43 -!- siepu has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:43:01 I did mean player >_> 16:43:46 ??resist poison[2 16:43:47 resist poison[2/2]: schuay the Frost Mage (L10 MfIE), worshipper of Sif Muna, succumbed to miscasting Resist Poison's residual poison on D:9, with 4346 points after 7920 turns and 1:15:37. 16:44:46 -!- Mazed has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 16:44:58 -!- NilsBloodaxe has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:45:09 no additional poison, though, so clearly I hate anybody drawing venom against a black mamba 16:45:25 sounds a bit shit, especially later on - when venom stops being useful & rPois- is still a problem 16:45:45 yeah I can see what you're going for with that I guess; early on I guess the -rPois would be pretty much a no-op (but situationally amusing of course), later on in a poison branch...I guess it'd be reasonably interesting in spider 16:46:05 in swamp that poisonous stuff is rpois 16:46:27 so it'd be pre bad, but again parrow is at least decent evven with resist 16:46:43 remember, I'm replacing bottom level _sting_ 16:47:17 theTower: well yeah early on it'd fine but not terribly meaningful; you might get hit with poison at just the right time to care, of course 16:47:19 theTower: no poison clouds/otr? 16:47:31 I was more musing about the second level 16:47:38 oh right, you said the bottom two levels 16:47:39 hm 16:47:46 going to try and avoid targetting nonsense, ontoclasm 16:47:54 ah 16:47:56 when you'd get parrow half the time, which is great, but then poison could be a more serious problem 16:47:59 I guess green drac breath would still be a line >_> 16:48:11 theTower: I do like this kind of tradeoff *much* more than legendary pain card 16:48:14 awful, awful card 16:48:29 legendarily painful 16:48:35 lives up to its name imo 16:48:38 card of "you basically always should triple-draw legendary destruct" 16:48:59 I'm trying to figure out something for that, too, but that one I don't have an idea to immediately float 16:49:25 (shield player from its effect??) 16:49:35 that sounds too good 16:49:52 -!- Xenobreeder has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:50:05 relevant: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nnaeO6QSPI 16:50:36 spectral haunting versions of all valid monsters in los 16:51:55 is there a "Haunt" card? 16:52:09 !gamesby . god=nem 16:52:10 gammafunk (god=nem) has played 50 games, between 2012-11-17 00:55:58 and 2013-09-05 05:34:38, won 2 (4.0%), high score 8501657, total score 13129884, total turns 1688982, play-time/day 0:53:33, total time 10d+21:33:23. 16:52:26 even afte 50 games I can't remember them all 16:52:31 there is no undead in nemelex anymore >_> 16:52:32 imo turn Wraith card into that 16:52:37 oh rip 16:52:40 oh yeah Bones is gone 16:52:49 ??wraith_card 16:52:49 wraith card[1/1]: Card from the deck of Punishment. Decreases your level by 1. 16:52:52 ug 16:52:54 right 16:54:18 wraith does not, strictly speaking, involve undead 16:54:39 ...also, clearly it needs to inflict fear to mimic banshee 16:54:44 could give partial resistance to the torment from legendary pain, like xom gives resistance when he drops lightning on you 16:57:13 -!- Sharkman1231 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:01:26 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:04:34 -!- serq has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:08:29 |amethyst: (or anyone familiar with dgamelaunch-stuff). clean-trunks removes: trunk binaries from /usr/games in the chroot, the info in the db, and the folders in crawl-master? (and only does it if there are no save games pointing to that version?) 17:08:55 I'm running low on space and I'm trying to see what all I can safely delete. I already removed the binaries from the crawl git repo 17:11:14 -!- Morg0th has quit [Quit: leaving] 17:14:46 johnstein, welcome to the club 17:15:19 I think greensnark and |amethyst got something worked out for cszo (rsyncing to another server) 17:15:20 what helps a lot is compressing the ttyrecs - are you doing that yet? 17:15:23 yes 17:15:45 I just found a 2GB log file though 17:15:53 probably the same as greensnark did a few times for me 17:15:57 -!- eliotn has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:16:09 yea. greensnark offered to help me. I was hoping to get through the next tourney :P 17:16:10 moving the compressed tty recs to greensnark's server 17:16:27 !serverstats 17:16:32 3741341 games for *: 1604283x cao [25082], 966425x cdo [14443], 810315x cszo [9302], 145280x clan [2201], 145029x ckr [1877], 28053x cbro [765], 24437x rhf [698], 9527x csn [282], 7362x lld [87], 462x cxc [62], 168x cpo [17] 17:16:50 which is your's? 17:16:55 cbro is small-potatoes at least, so it's not that much 17:17:11 how much space to you have? 17:17:46 -!- DrKe has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:17:50 I consider cbro just a pressure-relief valve for cszo and cao :P 17:17:58 like 80 or 90 GB 17:18:01 not a lot 17:18:21 i have/had like 200gb for dgl 17:18:47 I can't upgrade just disk space for my VPS. have to upgrade everything. which I may have to do one day when/if I get more players 17:18:49 i also tarball the morgue's of old-old-stable 17:19:05 -!- link_108 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 17:19:09 in case you haven't done so yet 17:19:22 does that make them inaccessible? or just makes the person clicking the link have to dl a tarred file? 17:19:28 I haven't touched the morgues yet 17:19:48 it makes them accessible via tarball only, yes 17:20:07 but better than deleting them 17:20:10 Grunt: aha, from rltiles/Makefile, after I tried to modify it to use SDL2 SDL2_CFLAGS := $(shell sdl-config --cflags 2> /dev/null || echo "-I../contrib/install/$(ARCH)/include/SDL2") 17:20:20 do we have an sdl-config that can be used 17:20:32 an sdl2-config I guess 17:21:20 hrm, well I guess all I need to do is to change that to sdl2-config, but for when using contirbs 17:21:23 *contribs 17:21:57 ah nevermind, I see, sdl2-config is a non-issue if we're not using contrib 17:22:16 sorry, it's a non-issue if we are using contrib 17:22:34 in conclusion, poop 17:22:34 -!- DrKe has joined ##crawl-dev 17:24:10 -!- link_108 has joined ##crawl-dev 17:25:14 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:29:18 -!- Big_guy has quit [] 17:32:39 -!- nicolae- has joined ##crawl-dev 17:33:22 -!- theTower has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 17:33:46 rip 17:33:47 rip 17:33:53 i totally forgot that was a thing 17:35:37 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 17:36:47 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 17:36:47 crawl-ref/crawl-ref#247 (master - 8124c91 : Shmuale Mark): The build is still failing. 17:36:47 Change view : https://github.com/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/compare/3d4331f3a673...8124c910e6d9 17:36:47 Build details : http://travis-ci.org/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/builds/40348006 17:36:47 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 17:37:46 ..ok I got the sdl2 build to work, including tilegen on my system 17:37:51 I should commit this I guess 17:40:53 -!- Crehl has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 17:41:28 probably! 17:41:41 -!- simmarine has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:41:42 -!- Pluie has joined ##crawl-dev 17:41:47 -!- simmarine_ has joined ##crawl-dev 17:43:25 -!- Yermak has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:43:27 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 17:44:00 -!- hauzer has quit [Write error: Connection reset by peer] 17:45:26 -!- Isabel has joined ##crawl-dev 17:46:11 03gammafunk02 07[sdl2] * 0.16-a0-1982-g187053b: Use SDL2 for tilegen 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 6+ 6-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=187053bad67f 17:47:24 !source mon-pick.h 17:47:25 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/mon-pick.h;hb=HEAD 17:47:51 oh. that's the wrong file. which one has the monster weights per branch? 17:48:12 mon-pick-data.h 17:48:23 I was close! 17:48:26 !source mon-pick-data.h 17:48:27 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/mon-pick-data.h;hb=HEAD 17:48:37 -!- Pluie has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:48:46 also see objstat for actual monster numbers per branch, including things like vault placement 17:48:50 ??objstat[2 17:48:50 objstat[2/3]: Latest statistics: https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B7VXhHzhWWb7S282VWhLVWRXbG8&usp=sharing 17:49:02 oh. ok. thanks 17:50:57 -!- Buxus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:52:42 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 17:55:36 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 17:56:13 -!- Pluie has joined ##crawl-dev 17:56:42 ooooh objstat is neat 17:57:38 yeah, this one genius guy briefly came in and wrote it and then just like left 17:57:50 they say he was probably the best programmer crawl has ever seen 17:58:00 but that's just what I heard 17:58:51 -!- Isabel has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:00:20 i heard objstat is insanely slow and also for losers. 18:00:31 maybe it's both 18:00:34 how does it stay synced? manually updated or some link to the actual code or some cgi thing? 18:01:18 johnstein: you can run it yourself by making a full debug build 18:01:19 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 18:01:32 ./crawl -objstat -iters 18:01:38 ah ok 18:01:44 likewise there's mapstat which is very helpful 18:01:46 -!- Patashu has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:01:49 for seeing how your vaults are placing 18:01:54 namely *if* they're placing 18:02:06 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 18:02:22 -!- alefury has joined ##crawl-dev 18:02:25 since &P forces your vault to place, but in practice it might never place if it's too big, depending on the layout 18:02:56 if you're doing a batch of vaults, it's good to run mapstat for like 100 iterations over the levels affected to see 18:03:49 -!- stanzglotza is now known as stanzill 18:05:08 -!- Isabel has joined ##crawl-dev 18:05:20 hrm 18:05:34 HOSTLINK tool/tilegen.elf 18:05:34 Undefined symbols for architecture x86_64: 18:05:35 "_AudioObjectGetPropertyData", referenced from: 18:05:45 wonder why this would be happening 18:06:25 -!- raskol has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 18:06:56 -!- Yermak has joined ##crawl-dev 18:07:36 -!- cribozai has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:07:51 -!- Pluie has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 18:09:14 -!- PolkaDot has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 18:10:15 -!- Mazed has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:11:17 -!- WhatIsLove has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:11:43 -!- tabstorm has joined ##crawl-dev 18:12:11 -!- Pluie has joined ##crawl-dev 18:12:40 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 18:12:40 crawl-ref/crawl-ref#248 (sdl2 - 187053b : gammafunk): The build has errored. 18:12:40 Change view : https://github.com/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/compare/365365e1c871...187053bad67f 18:12:40 Build details : http://travis-ci.org/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/builds/40351723 18:12:40 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 18:12:50 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 18:12:54 ...no! 18:13:03 travis, you lie!!! 18:13:57 hrm, why is it building branches? 18:15:07 * bh slaps gammafunk around with a trout 18:15:11 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 18:15:21 -!- Isabel has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 18:15:56 -!- crate_ is now known as crate 18:16:50 hrm, I didn't get that error using my system's sdl2 18:17:19 -!- stanzill has quit [Quit: schnarchimus] 18:17:56 bh: you have a linux system, yeah? can you try to make tiles for sdl2? 18:17:58 does anyone know *when* color is assigned to a square? 18:18:01 gammafunk: sure 18:18:10 -!- ZRN has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:18:29 gammafunk: sdl2 branch? 18:18:30 bh: by square, you mean a wall? 18:18:33 bh: yes 18:18:40 yes, a wall 18:19:05 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 18:19:21 this fails for me looking for 18:19:48 presumably I need some sdl-dev package 18:20:17 you'd need .. 18:20:43 libsdl2-dev libsdl2-image-dev 18:20:47 bh: ^ 18:20:52 on it 18:26:50 Failed to initialise SDL: Failed to connect to the Mir Server 18:26:50 wut? 18:27:00 wuuuuu 18:27:23 is your computer trying to connect to the russian space station to get sdl 18:27:50 In Soviet Russia, SDL connects to you 18:28:03 -!- Aston is now known as Ghostly_Aston 18:28:34 It builds, but does not run 18:29:36 well, no wonder it failed to connect, mir fell into the atmosphere and burned up years ago 18:30:00 bh: hrm, I wonder if sdl2 supports Mir? 18:30:14 -!- Isabel has joined ##crawl-dev 18:30:18 well the maintainer compiled the support in 18:31:22 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 18:32:09 if we statically link against a space station, how does that work? 18:32:24 SDL support for Mir and Wayland is available from SDL 2.0.2 but it is disabled by default. 18:32:35 lots of socks + carpet 18:32:47 -!- Pluie has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:32:53 -!- causative has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:33:23 I guess we might try to enable that in our sdl2 18:34:55 gammafunk: that sounds like a maintenance nightmare... crawl tries to avoid using SDL[2]'s configure script too, right? 18:35:31 johnny0: we just have a static makefile with the necessary bits for each platform 18:35:54 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 18:36:43 oh but actually, hrm 18:36:48 yeah for linux we don't use the contribs 18:36:49 so 18:37:04 it really should just work if you're using your system's sdl2 18:37:17 bh: does Mir/Wayland need to have something enabled to support sdl2? 18:39:22 I don't know what those are. 18:39:37 well you seem to be running Mir 18:39:58 -!- halberd has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:41:58 -!- Artelis has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 18:43:40 -!- Pluie has joined ##crawl-dev 18:44:56 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 18:45:09 -!- causative is now known as Guest13100 18:46:09 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:46:28 -!- Isabel has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 18:49:01 !vault swamp 18:49:01 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/dat/des/altar/ashenzari_visionary.des;hb=HEAD#l123 18:49:39 is there a diff between , and / in MONS lines? I can't seem to find the explanation in syntax.txt 18:49:48 uh 18:49:51 not that vault 18:50:35 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/dat/des/branches/swamp.des;hb=HEAD#l1743 18:52:25 comma sets up the next MONS glyph 18:52:37 MONS: orc, goblin would make 1 = orc and 2 = goblin 18:52:41 i think, i don't use MONS: often 18:52:53 MONS: orc / goblin would make 1 either an orc or a goblin, 50/50 18:55:03 -!- Piginabag has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:55:17 -!- link_108 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 18:56:55 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 19:06:31 -!- krag has quit [Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de] 19:07:13 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 19:11:14 -!- Guest13100 is now known as causative_ 19:11:19 -!- causative_ has quit [Changing host] 19:14:19 might there be a better way of indicating which monsters are allies on tiles? 19:14:31 perhaps outlining the tile in a similar way to autopickup items? 19:14:32 what's wrong with the heart 19:14:59 when you have a dozen allies and a dozen enemies and they're all of similar types (shadow creatures for instance) it gets hard to tell what is going on 19:16:09 Invalid glyph override: 7FFF x9 19:16:17 hrm, what does 7FFF refer to 19:17:27 !seen gammafunk 19:17:27 I last saw gammafunk at Sat Nov 8 00:39:37 2014 UTC (37m 50s ago) saying 'well you seem to be running Mir' on ##crawl-dev. 19:17:34 !seen PleasingFungus 19:17:39 I last saw PleasingFungus at Sat Nov 8 01:17:27 2014 UTC (7s ago) saying '!seen gammafunk ' on ##crawl-dev. 19:17:39 !seen 7FFF 19:17:40 Sorry PleasingFungus, I haven't seen 7fff. 19:18:03 zxc232: yeah I like using console for e.g. summoners a lot more than tiles for that reason; it's a pain to peer at all those monster tiles, looking for the heart 19:18:20 in console the colour inversion is pretty eye-catching 19:18:51 -!- debo_ has joined ##crawl-dev 19:18:58 for the other statuses it's fine, but with "ally", you're seeing that status a lot, so having to look at a tiny indicator is a pain 19:19:13 I'm getting spammed with that message every keypress after reading ?map, but the x number is random every line 19:19:15 it can get really bad with e.g. shadow creatures, when you don't have a lot of expectations as to what the monster will be 19:19:36 !lm magicpoints x=tiles 19:19:37 10254. [2014-11-08 00:56:18] [tiles=true] magicpoints the Tainter (L9 NaVM of Vehumet) became a worshipper of Vehumet on turn 2362. (D:6) 19:20:01 make an option where you can turn on a big heart shaped outline 19:20:03 magicpoints: that's a unicode indicator thingy 19:20:06 &rc magicpoints 19:20:08 http://dobrazupa.org/rcfiles/crawl-git/magicpoints.rc 19:20:18 warning: my rc is a mess 19:20:23 -!- alefury has quit [] 19:20:25 -!- Wensley_ has joined ##crawl-dev 19:21:26 -!- link_108 has joined ##crawl-dev 19:21:26 -!- link_108 has quit [Client Quit] 19:21:53 -!- minmay has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 19:21:53 -!- SkaryMonk has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 19:21:53 -!- Vizer_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 19:21:53 -!- bmuk has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 19:21:54 -!- FatShack has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 19:21:54 -!- Wensley has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 19:21:54 -!- Zaba has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 19:21:54 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 19:21:54 -!- Psyknux has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 19:21:55 -!- x[LGWs4x4i]uG2N0 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 19:21:55 -!- Medar has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 19:21:56 -!- Kintak has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 19:21:56 -!- PsyMar has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 19:21:56 -!- fiyawerx has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 19:22:13 -!- FatShack_ has joined ##crawl-dev 19:22:24 -!- Medar has joined ##crawl-dev 19:22:28 -!- Trevise has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:22:47 -!- Zaba has joined ##crawl-dev 19:23:28 -!- SkaryMonk has joined ##crawl-dev 19:24:29 -!- link_108 has joined ##crawl-dev 19:24:36 item_glyph = Orb of Zot: 19:24:37 cute 19:24:55 The ultimate form of capitalism 19:28:55 magicpoints: what version are you getting this with? 0.15 on cszo? 19:29:25 !lm magicpoints x=cv 19:29:26 10254. [2014-11-08 00:56:18] [cv=0.16-a] magicpoints the Tainter (L9 NaVM of Vehumet) became a worshipper of Vehumet on turn 2362. (D:6) 19:29:57 -!- read has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:31:24 -!- read has joined ##crawl-dev 19:32:10 okay, seems to be cause by this line: feature = closed door {+} 19:32:38 no idea what the original purpose of that was so I'll just disable it for now 19:33:56 Would you like a save backup before I move on? 19:34:10 no that's probably ok 19:34:26 Okay then time to splat 19:34:32 I was just about to say 19:34:40 would instead prefer you to not kill another Na 19:34:41 zxc232: could do something maybe 19:34:58 maybe a colored background 19:35:06 !hs magicpoints na 19:35:06 1139. magicpoints the Bringer of Law (L27 NaHe of Zin), escaped with the Orb and 15 runes on 2013-10-18 19:46:18, with 21270761 points after 70967 turns and 11:05:16. 19:35:09 (i don't really like the heart either) 19:35:13 oh, I remember that one 19:35:27 This one's off to a nice start, so I predict a splat in the lair branches 19:35:31 just a thought; I don't play summoners often but I do think the tiles experience could be improved there 19:35:40 yeah 19:39:25 -!- ldf has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:41:09 -!- Zermako_ has quit [] 19:42:03 ih 19:42:05 *oh 19:42:10 speaking of 2s that need new tiles 19:42:25 it would be nice if the reaper had a tile that didn't make it look like a valid LRD target 19:42:34 something more spooky robe, less spooky skeleton 19:42:54 mm 19:43:14 oh nice, got os x tilegen to work with sdl2, looks like 19:43:40 and the rest of crawl is using the sdl2 contrib and compiling, so maybe with will work 19:44:13 will probably need some 10.9 and maybe 10.8 people to test 19:44:15 gammafunk: !!!!!!!!!!! 19:44:38 Grunt: I commited a change for the sdl2 rltiles makefile 19:44:44 (I will be home in an hour and a half or so so that is your deadline!) 19:44:47 but it may be broke on some linux systems 19:44:56 it failed on travis 19:44:58 for some reason 19:45:02 I'll try it when I get home. 19:45:03 but works on my system! 19:45:05 k 19:45:12 the t in travis stands for trolp 19:45:14 imo 19:45:16 *troll 19:45:17 rip 19:45:18 * gammafunk zaps a wand. Grunt slows down. 19:45:18 * Sequell also zaps a wand. Grunt slows down. 19:45:22 :( 19:45:23 -!- debo_ is now known as debo 19:45:24 dang, 2x slow 19:45:25 rip 19:46:29 comedy option: make reapers LRDable 19:46:46 make everything LRDable 19:47:10 but...but...that tile is so iconic... 19:47:29 even icons die 19:47:29 !kw t2 19:47:29 Unknown tournament: t2 19:47:32 oh 19:47:48 gammafunk: can you revert c371c2d and see what trollvis does 19:47:56 %git c371c2d 19:47:57 07Grunt02 * 0.16-a0-1978-gc371c2d: Travis: still install SDL1.2, so tile gen utils can use it. 10(9 hours ago, 1 file, 2+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=c371c2d767e7 19:48:12 nicolae-: old icons never die, they just get moved to UNUSED 19:48:15 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 19:48:18 Grunt: well it already told me that the build failed for the sdl2 branch...oh 19:48:22 * Grunt back to work 19:48:42 ontoclasm: it's a metaphor for life, in a way 19:48:59 mmm 19:49:56 buried and forgotten 19:51:03 fr: bring back the Lamia tile for use with tile_player_tile 19:51:17 -!- Whistling_Beard has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:53:13 has anyone used the player dolls for other species yet with tile_player_tile 19:54:23 Like a centaur doll as a human for example? 19:55:10 yes 19:55:31 -!- x[LGWs4x5i]uG2N0 is now known as x[LGWs4x4i]uG2N0 19:58:39 -!- Siegurt has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 19:58:55 -!- Blazinghand|Work has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:59:45 -!- clouded_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20:00:05 -!- zardo has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:00:08 Huge success, sdl2 contrib tiles build in 10.10 works and appears to play normally 20:03:45 !lm . br.enter=zig min=xl 20:03:46 No milestones for gammafunk (br.enter=zig). 20:03:59 !kw zig 20:04:00 Built-in: zig => place=~zig:* 20:04:09 !lm . zig min=xl 20:04:10 154. [2014-09-01 20:16:18] gammafunk the Convoker (L18 HESu of Sif Muna) entered a Ziggurat on turn 22844. (Pan) 20:04:18 !lm . zig min=xl -2 20:04:19 153/154. [2014-09-01 20:16:39] gammafunk the Convoker (L18 HESu of Sif Muna) reached level 2 of a Ziggurat on turn 22868. (Zig:2) 20:04:24 grr 20:04:27 !lm . zig min=xl -3 20:04:28 152/154. [2014-09-01 20:17:16] gammafunk the Convoker (L18 HESu of Sif Muna) reached level 3 of a Ziggurat on turn 22912. (Zig:3) 20:04:36 !lm . br.exit=zig min=xl 20:04:37 No milestones for gammafunk (br.exit=zig). 20:04:59 !lm . zig milestone=~exit min=xl 20:04:59 No milestones for gammafunk (zig milestone=~exit). 20:05:08 !lm . zig milestone~~exit min=xl 20:05:09 No milestones for gammafunk (zig milestone~~exit). 20:05:13 !lm . zig milestone~~Exit min=xl 20:05:13 No milestones for gammafunk (zig milestone~~Exit). 20:05:17 !lm . zig milestone~~left min=xl 20:05:18 9. [2014-09-01 20:35:44] gammafunk the Convoker (L18 HESu of Sif Muna) left a Ziggurat at level 9 on turn 23519. (Zig:9) 20:07:37 -!- demiskeleton has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 20:09:18 -!- CrawlOffline|Jho has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 20:09:43 -!- raskol has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20:13:46 -!- FaMott has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 20:17:13 -!- trane has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:21:41 -!- MakMorn has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20:22:08 -!- MakMorn has joined ##crawl-dev 20:25:12 -!- fridurmus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:26:28 -!- Crehl_ has quit [Quit: Killed by a kitten] 20:30:59 oh, do I have commit access to the sdl2 repo? 20:31:20 Grunt: ^ 20:34:15 oh 20:35:29 gammafunk: i.e. crawl-sdl2? You should by virtue of being in the dev group, but you might need to specify the git@gitorious url manually to do so 20:35:44 git push git@gitorious.org[...] master 20:35:58 yeah that's what my origin looks like but 20:36:00 let me see 20:36:10 oh! 20:36:16 not specifying the username 'git' 20:36:19 that would do it 20:36:28 it looks like you're the git 20:36:30 -!- serq has quit [Quit: und weg...] 20:36:47 * Grunt waves nicolae- out the door - go on, git 20:37:02 -!- MgDark has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 20:37:08 (home in an hour or so, rip...) 20:37:15 -!- NeremWorld has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20:37:34 -!- read has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:37:45 -!- Watball has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:39:39 -!- read has joined ##crawl-dev 20:40:10 weird, for some reason I can push from my linux machine, but not from my mac 20:41:54 what error? same ssh key? 20:42:38 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 20:43:04 -!- CrawlOffline|Jho has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 20:43:15 -!- claws has joined ##crawl-dev 20:44:29 yeah same key, Permission denied (publickey). | 20:44:33 fatal: Could not read from remote repository. 20:44:52 for legendary pain, how about drain life after the torment to make up for the health loss 20:44:54 checked the ssh config and it all appears correct 20:45:07 steps on yred's toes a little but torment itself is hardly unique either 20:45:13 whoops 20:45:20 I spy a claw 20:45:34 the whole facade is crumbling 20:46:01 different names for different places 20:46:07 now why won't nickserv thing 20:46:15 -!- claws is now known as theTower 20:46:25 oh, wrong server input, that explains it 20:48:39 -!- Lawman0 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 20:54:12 -!- kipster has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:54:22 nicolae-, current draft with edits and some ontoclasm suggestions is http://pastebin.com/5kvUU92U 20:54:52 gammafunk: do you have your gitorious key on the mac 20:55:00 -!- link_108 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20:55:00 oh, i like warpwright 20:55:07 Grunt: yeah, I do 20:55:11 * Grunt gets ready to head home o/ 20:55:15 it's ok, I'm just copying patch files over 20:55:22 should be commited when you get home! 20:55:22 v0v 20:55:25 \o/ 20:55:38 unless you like ride a rocket home or something 20:55:59 use the warpwright home, what could possibly 20:56:04 for venom my suggestion was going to be a snake coiled around a skull, drooling venom on it (well, not drooling, per se, but), as in the stereotypical tough guy tattoo 20:56:20 i like ontoclasm's pain 20:56:24 er, his suggestion for the card pain 20:57:22 -!- DrKe has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:57:48 right, now that I am back from the suit thing I should try out poison vuln bolt/arrow card 20:58:19 and drain life pain and apply-to-everything-in-los wild magic and placid magic 20:58:44 -!- ayutzia_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:58:44 (placid magic is full los cancellation and heavy antimagic, of course.) 20:58:45 velocity: somebody outrunning an arrow, perhaps? or someone running with winged boots 20:58:51 (of course) 20:59:06 placid mage, just a wizard in a hammock 20:59:10 magic* 20:59:10 -!- link_108 has joined ##crawl-dev 20:59:17 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91 [Firefox 36.0a1/20141106030201]] 20:59:47 03gammafunk02 07[sdl2] * 0.16-a0-1983-gf87f6ae: Updates to sdl2 contrib 10(19 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=f87f6aedb12d 20:59:47 03gammafunk02 07[sdl2] * 0.16-a0-1984-gab5fd5b: Revert "Travis: still install SDL1.2, so tile gen utils can use it." 10(13 minutes ago, 1 file, 0+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=ab5fd5b6902e 20:59:47 03gammafunk02 07[sdl2] * 0.16-a0-1985-gedee275: OS X Makefile updates to add missing frameworks 10(8 minutes ago, 2 files, 2+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=edee275d7f17 20:59:49 The card depicts a crumpled wizard's hat, abandoned and stomped into the dirt. 21:00:00 hahaha, i like that 21:00:37 Hammer: The card depicts a blacksmith raising a massive hammer, depicted from the perspective of the anvil. 21:01:43 Blade: The card depicts a corpse lying on a bloody battlefield with a greatsword protruding from its back. 21:02:33 "with ten greatswords protruding from its back" 21:02:38 -!- rophy has quit [Quit: Miranda NG! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-ng.org/] 21:02:46 -!- DrKe has joined ##crawl-dev 21:03:02 "ten short swords" might work if you're feeling self-referential 21:03:22 I am not 21:05:02 Mercenary: The card depicts a bag of gold coins being placed in a pair of bloodied hands. 21:05:21 "The card decpits a corpse, torn horribly by the ravages of battle, covered in blood, its entrails strewn amongst the meagre grasses that clump desperately to the dark, infertile earth of that the hard men of this cursed land till with their..." 21:05:46 dead people are marginally good for raising the fertility of the earth 21:05:47 s/of that/that/ 21:06:41 make a card called Verbosity and have the description require page-down-ing several times to get through 21:07:21 when you use a xom card xom cracks a joke about the symbols the other cards depict 21:07:35 possibly including three autobiographies 21:08:45 -!- CrawlOffline|Jho has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 21:09:12 alternately, a card called Glossalalia which goes The card depicts and then turns into gibberish. 21:09:49 good word for yiuf 21:10:20 it is, it's a good word. 21:12:17 there are a lot of esoteric religious things that i'd like to see in crawl and that's one of them, though i have no idea how or if it would actually work 21:12:49 for some reason I want to go with "an empty, well-worn pair of boots" for velocity 21:12:57 -!- _Jordan_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:13:20 hmmm, i think my Mercenary idea would be better phrased as "The card depicts a pair of bloodied hands accepting a bag of gold." 21:13:32 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:13:46 probably just "bloodied hands" 21:13:56 okay, yes, that's also better 21:14:03 bloodied tentacles 21:18:11 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 21:18:11 crawl-ref/crawl-ref#249 (sdl2 - edee275 : gammafunk): The build failed. 21:18:11 Change view : https://github.com/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/compare/187053bad67f...edee275d7f17 21:18:11 Build details : http://travis-ci.org/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/builds/40364572 21:18:11 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 21:18:24 don't give me your lies 21:19:22 !send gammafunk lies 21:19:22 Sending lies to gammafunk. 21:19:41 yeah still don't know what that compilation error is about 21:19:50 gammafunk: it's using the wrong SDL 21:19:55 hrm, still? 21:19:59 I reverted that commit 21:20:07 The card depicts a robot briefly peaking in and blaring a unknown warning. 21:20:07 and made it use sdl2 21:20:10 gammafunk: this is a commit from before that revert I think??? 21:20:12 for tilegen that is 21:20:15 oh is it 21:20:28 no I think that's the most recent 21:20:29 oh it isn't 21:20:30 rip 21:20:31 %git sdl2 21:20:31 07gammafunk02 * 0.16-a0-1985-gedee275: OS X Makefile updates to add missing frameworks 10(29 minutes ago, 2 files, 2+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=edee275d7f17 21:20:32 wtf 21:20:42 possibly the sdl2 libs it is using are old??? 21:20:45 I need to check the ppa 21:21:17 anyway is OS X compiling now?? 21:21:28 more importantly is it running????? 21:21:36 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 21:21:47 more importantly when do we remove PleasingFungus? 21:21:57 ...now! 21:21:58 -!- tensorpudding has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 21:22:00 good 21:22:00 bye 21:22:03 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Client Quit] 21:22:07 <_< 21:22:21 sweet jesus you are a magician. the evil kind. 21:22:24 Grunt: yes it's compiling and running 21:22:26 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 21:22:36 on my 10.10 system at least 21:22:39 hi 21:22:42 we'd need a 10.9 person to test 21:22:53 oops 21:22:54 !learn edit Grunt[$] s/$/ sweet jesus you are a magician. the evil kind. 21:22:54 grunt[25/25]: Grunt is basically a magician sweet jesus you are a magician. the evil kind. 21:23:17 -!- axle is now known as tspark 21:23:58 agh 21:24:25 only thing we might have to do for os x earlier than 10.10 is maybe conditionally include frameworks by version, or something, if that turns out to be a problem 21:25:04 wait, what's wrong with non-crawl birds? (wrt velocity card) 21:25:20 we don't have any hooded executioners, or royal crypts.... 21:25:23 (fr: royal crypt) 21:25:30 yes we do, ignacio has a hood 21:25:38 o 21:25:40 pfeh 21:25:40 0wn3d 21:25:48 we also don't have 21:25:50 a moon 21:25:56 it's in a branch 21:25:56 we need an undead plant for crypts. like, a crypt orchid. 21:26:20 we have a very royal tomb, and the crypt contains the tomb 21:26:23 just as scenery? 21:26:28 gammafunk: I didn't know there was a branch! 21:26:35 "withered plant" is silly 21:26:35 well it's a local branch 21:26:50 and it has only the vault defines in it, since that's what I've tested 21:27:06 after this sdl mumbo jumbo i can get back to work on it 21:27:26 I suppose shoals does not, strictly speaking, have many ships 21:27:28 reading through flavor list... several pieces of ambrosia, huh. I can't remember - what did we conclude after our last !ambrosia chat? 21:27:42 "do it" 21:27:44 oh, uh 21:27:44 theTower: a large enough turtle is isomorphic to a ship. 21:27:51 see also: warcraft ii 21:27:55 fr turtle riders 21:27:57 a large enough turtle is isomorphic to a planet 21:28:13 I recall thinking that the overlap with !magic is high, but then theTower said that the mp regen is supposed to be only while confused? 21:28:20 -!- Ququman has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:28:22 yes 21:28:31 what happens if you . while confused? 21:28:34 do you stay in place? 21:28:37 yes 21:28:48 you stay in place but the world moves around you 21:28:57 spins, perhaps? 21:28:58 it is strictly speaking good if you are resting, perhaps 21:29:06 but 21:29:21 -!- Siegurt has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:29:22 -!- Ghostly_Aston has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:29:27 right, then I guess it's not outright terrible in that it's forcing you to dart in random directions 21:29:29 with replacing all those vaults potions of confusion with potions of poison it'll be a ?potion like lignif 21:29:37 I think it's okay for limited-use consumables to be situationally good :) 21:30:01 Blade: The card depicts a greatsword, protruding from the back of a corpse on a battlefield. Mercenary: The card depicts bloodied hands accepting a bag of gold. | there we go 21:30:03 ...imho replace porridge instead 21:30:11 yeah I don'thave too much a problem with that, just don't want it to be annoying when you actually do use it intentionally 21:30:13 wait, no, gozag 21:30:18 right 21:30:18 ugh 21:30:30 man I like gozag but I wish he had some other nutrition mechanism that wasn't mixed in with pot petition 21:30:33 (legalize it!!!) 21:30:44 nicolae-: yeah, I've been putting in some of your stuff with some editing 21:30:47 Eat Gold 21:30:55 fr pot god 21:31:09 well, sure, obviously it's some way to turn gold into nut. but how, specifically? 21:31:22 yeah I mean, !ambrosia seems ok to me 21:31:23 through alchemy 21:31:48 maybe just have a passive effect where you get a little nutrition occasionally if you pick up gold 21:31:54 Gold Into Lead-Pan Stir-Fry 21:32:08 ...actually, that seems like a bad idea. 21:32:11 idk, I'll email dpeg. 21:32:15 as Gozag King, he may have ideas. 21:32:36 -!- ackack has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:32:40 you put gold flakes onto your food and that makes it taste better / more satisfying so you get more adventurers 21:32:49 not adventurers adventure argh 21:32:54 o 21:32:56 I was wondering 21:34:39 maybe the Alchemist description should be redone a bit for Potion and Alchemist could get something else 21:35:40 Fortitude: The card depicts a sword shattering against a bare outstretched hand. 21:36:10 -!- Taraiph has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 21:36:25 "don't have time to bleed" 21:37:13 !!! 21:37:42 ??? 21:37:45 ... 21:37:57 The card depicts the card depicts the card depicts. 21:38:02 buffalo 21:38:10 The card depicts itself. 21:38:34 The card depicts a hand holding the card which depicts a hand holding the card which depicts- 21:38:53 xom descriptions...? (perhaps a little too high-brow.) 21:39:04 The card depicts a display which would make Escher jealous. 21:39:06 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:39:25 The card depicts a puppet held by a figure convulsing with laughter. 21:39:30 i was thinking xom, yes 21:39:43 maybe just all the weird card rejects ideas can be stuck under the xom card 21:40:01 The card depicts a hideous figure by the name of @playername@ 21:40:42 -!- Patashu_ has joined ##crawl-dev 21:40:42 -!- Patashu has quit [Disconnected by services] 21:42:29 -!- mong has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.0.1] 21:42:32 -!- debo is now known as deeeeeeebo 21:42:40 man, storm card still needs to be edited way down 21:42:56 -!- link_108 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:43:00 I think the twister needs to have some distance 21:43:08 oh I meant the description 21:43:09 sorry 21:43:13 >_> 21:43:15 hahahah 21:43:26 shadow card description is a little weird right now - why are both twins holding one knife? 21:43:36 confusing. 21:43:45 oh I may have found 21:43:45 a way 21:43:49 to work around the Windows crash 21:43:49 !!! 21:43:50 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 21:43:53 ! ! ! 21:44:09 because it's the shadow archtype blah blah blah blah 21:44:15 Repulsiveness: The card depicts... your face!!!!!!! 21:44:18 ha 21:44:19 ha 21:44:21 ha 21:44:23 i had one for shadow but it felt a little lengthy so i didn't post it, but: Shadow: The card depicts a figure bearing a torch. Their shadow looms on the wall behind them, bearing a knife instead. 21:44:45 I added the knife in to the description because it felt a little too distant, but it's not too good yeah 21:45:09 I'm being intentionally obtuse but it does read like there's only one knife 21:45:11 which seems incorrect 21:45:23 or, rather, the knife count is ambigous 21:45:26 (sp) 21:45:51 You draw repulsiveness! 21:45:55 ambiguatory 21:46:00 The card depicts a familiar face. 21:46:08 You draw a Blank! What the hell does this card do, again? 21:46:23 !banish nicolae- 21:46:24 theTower casts a spell. nicolae- is devoured by a tear in reality! 21:46:28 i deserve this 21:46:30 Choose what effect? [...] 21:47:17 "but both each have the same simple knife"? 21:47:31 this is why I am outsourcing all of this 21:47:32 -!- Patashu_ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 21:48:04 , their hands entwined around the handle of a simple knife. 21:48:05 -!- Patashu_ has joined ##crawl-dev 21:48:05 -!- Patashu has quit [Disconnected by services] 21:48:36 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 21:49:24 h m m m 21:49:36 well this made Crawl not infinitely loopy on windows 21:49:37 but 21:49:42 Couldn't load texture 'C:/crawltest/stone_soup-tiles-0.16/dat/tiles/floor.png'. 21:51:39 what is the bracketed text under "Stairs" 21:52:58 in shiren 2 there is this repelling orb weaver family 21:53:22 it is a set of monsters that just find the stairs on a level and then headbutt them around in a circle over and over 21:53:48 ha 21:53:49 -!- Hailley has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 21:53:53 crawl needs those 21:55:45 <|amethyst> bh: should probably mention the wang tiles stuff in licence.txt 21:55:53 ! 21:55:55 it 21:55:55 RUNS 21:55:57 !!!!!! 21:56:27 way to waste a perfectly good opportunity to say "it LIVES!!!!" 21:56:29 it gives hieroglyphics when I try to enter numbers 21:56:30 rip 21:56:40 oh, like the hatch in lost 21:56:54 <|amethyst> bh: oh, never mind.. 21:57:13 <|amethyst> bh: what I get for catching up on commits in order 21:57:14 ??sdl2 21:57:14 sdl2[1/1]: TODO: crashes on windows (try to get thread/stdcpp to build instead of thread/generic), get OS X building, port tilegen to sdl2, map keycodes better, refactor WME_ framework to line up with SDL2's framework, get android working 21:57:31 !learn edit sdl2 s/crashes.*to sdl2, // 21:57:32 <|amethyst> bh: but should probably do that in the branch 21:57:34 sdl2[1/1]: TODO: map keycodes better, refactor WME_ framework to line up with SDL2's framework, get android working 21:57:50 probably I should actually commit the Win32 fixes first.... :) 21:57:59 v0v 21:58:04 Rangers: The card depicts an arrow in a bullseye which has been split by a second arrow. 21:58:22 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: do newer versions of bison avoid 'register' ? 21:58:46 Repulsiveness: Whatever the card depicts, your brain refuses to contemplate it long enough for it to register. 22:00:37 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: maybe #define register in util/levcomp.lpp ? 22:01:14 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: err, flex, not bison 22:01:32 Ru's sacrifice message picked up an extra . somewhere: "Ru asks you to your ability to read while threatened.." 22:02:06 would it help to know the elements list, nicolae- 22:02:31 03Grunt02 07[sdl2] * 0.16-a0-1986-g84f5de5: Poke sdl2 contrib - Win32 now runs! 10(64 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=84f5de5b66c0 22:02:33 Bison bison Bison bison bison Bison bison. 22:02:34 <_< 22:02:42 no, there are no bisons 22:02:58 technically speaking, Ru's first sacrifice is mandatory but unmentioned: Sacrifice Grammer 22:03:10 theTower: elements of what? 22:03:16 <|amethyst> No more buffalo / Blue skies or open road / No more rodeo / No more noise 22:03:30 the elements card! 22:03:31 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kelsey_Grammer ? 22:03:34 <|amethyst> nicolae-: BRNIG THE SACRIFICIAL FRAZIERS! 22:03:40 wow this ppa is a n c i e n t 22:03:41 <|amethyst> CanOfWorms beat me to it 22:03:58 (also, I could use a better name >_>) 22:04:38 {raiju, wind drake, shock serpent} | {basilisk, boring beetle, boulder beetle} | {mottled dragon, molten gargoyle, salamander firebrand} | {ice beast, polar bear, ice dragon} 22:04:41 i should have made that Sacrifice Grammer and Spellin to make the joke land better :( 22:05:07 theTower: force of nature? 22:05:22 that'd be good except i think he's going for one-word names 22:05:26 hmm 22:05:55 Elemenagerie except that's a terrible portmanteau, why did i even say it 22:06:16 two words are supposedly acceptable for Wild [ / Placid] Magic, though it'd be cool to deal with those too 22:06:25 oh, right 22:06:42 03Grunt02 07[sdl2] * 0.16-a0-1987-gad49808: Use a more up-to-date ppa for SDL2 for travis. 10(64 seconds ago, 2 files, 3+ 3-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=ad49808b7385 22:06:44 the qazlal card 22:07:13 hmmm, Wild Magic -> Havoc, Placid Magic -> Null? 22:07:15 -!- pentax has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 22:07:43 Grunt: does that stop travis from telling lies?! 22:07:49 gammafunk: let's find out!!! 22:09:24 this looks promising so far 22:09:57 -!- xnavy has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 22:10:45 Grunt: why do you need to cross-compile in a chroot btw? 22:10:57 gammafunk: I do not have a Windows box. 22:11:15 <|amethyst> that answers half the question 22:11:16 gammafunk: and I am not going to get a Windows box. 22:11:17 i can't think of anything for Elements besides Elements, it's hard to to convey "beast that's related to the elements but is not an elemental" 22:11:27 no I mean, why a chroot 22:11:34 The chroot is so that I know exactly what deps it is building with. :) 22:11:38 "primals" >>>_>>> 22:11:50 It is a controlled environment. 22:11:50 hrm, ok 22:12:43 okay 22:12:51 the numeric hieroglyphics is not a Windows-specific thing 22:13:00 placid magic could be "ritual" 22:13:07 and it is independent of using the contrib or not it looks like?? 22:13:31 probably my too-ugly-to-live keyboard mapping code 22:13:44 imo someone should figure out a better way to do that that isn't me :( 22:14:00 -!- Mottikins_ has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 22:14:17 need to dockerfy crawl 22:14:22 gammafunk: it 22:14:22 LIVES 22:14:24 !!!!!!! 22:14:28 isn't that the new way to do things? 22:14:40 there you go! 22:15:41 Grunt: nice, we're getting there 22:15:41 I'm trying to get this stinking virutalbox to get the crawl repo 22:15:41 I should just copy the thing from linux 22:18:03 gammafunk: are you doing a Windows VM or something else? 22:18:08 or an OS X VM 22:18:11 or 22:18:13 v0v 22:18:32 i think Elements can stay elements unless some more specific elements type card is made 22:18:44 or maybe Wilderness 22:19:46 Grunt: virtualbox of windows 8 22:19:56 m m m m m m 22:20:32 "The ancient Greek word for element, stoicheion" 22:20:38 the stoicheion :v 22:20:39 hrm. floor colour functions make me so sad 22:20:41 ! 22:20:52 !send bh functionality 22:20:53 Sending functionality to bh. 22:21:16 Grunt: elven brick 22:21:26 bh: that is a *wall* colour function. 22:21:32 <_< >_> <_< >_> 22:21:40 !brick bh 22:21:49 walls are floors 22:21:51 it's all the same 22:22:00 !learn add bh walls are floors it's all the same 22:22:00 bh[6/6]: walls are floors it's all the same 22:22:29 they are! 22:22:49 they are if you're spiderman 22:22:51 think about it 22:23:06 wait 22:23:07 bh is 22:23:08 spiderman 22:23:12 suddenly things make sense 22:23:28 like how he's always managing to get those action shots of spiderman for the bugle 22:24:15 there's some batman comic where Bruce Wayne gets called for jury duty 22:24:35 the judge asks him if there's a reason he can't serve. He says "I'm batman," and the judge tells him to take the process more seriously. 22:25:14 fr clinging again 22:25:38 Grunt: colour functions only care about location 22:25:46 you can sneak data in with global state, but that's evil 22:25:48 anticlinging, you can fly but only if you're not next to a wall 22:26:31 1-health bat form in slime 22:26:37 oh 22:26:37 no 22:26:43 travis failed a test 22:26:47 so it is still going to complain 22:26:49 *shakes fist* 22:26:50 transmutations/earth/conjuration spell: gold to lead 22:27:05 -!- Artelis has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 22:27:12 converts a small portion of gold into lead bolts 22:27:23 does a shotgun spread of iron bolts 22:27:38 We already have the iron rod in the works :) 22:27:40 i saw a spell prposed ages ago Conj/Tmut that turned gold into a silver blast but it appears to have not caught on 22:27:48 :o! 22:28:04 what does the iron rod do? 22:28:11 %git iron-rod^ 22:28:11 07Grunt02 * 0.16-a0-1734-ga0ca867: Replace the rod of striking with the iron rod. 10(3 weeks ago, 22 files, 173+ 42-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=a0ca8673f5ce 22:28:18 (that is on a branch) 22:28:23 Read the commit for the description :) 22:28:25 It is basically 22:28:27 a shotgun. 22:28:40 :o 22:28:45 but it doesn't transmute gold :( 22:28:51 wow sdl2 fulldebug segfaulted in the stress test 22:28:52 r i p 22:28:56 dang 22:29:07 poor travis 22:30:08 and translocation/hexes: dimensional anchor 22:30:20 creates an aura of stasis that shrinks like silence 22:30:29 ??dimension anchore 22:30:29 dimension anchore ~ dimension anchor[1/1]: A draconian shifter spell that blocks you from teleporting, blinking, etc. during its duration. Also possessed by the Enchantress. Resistable by MR. 22:30:29 ??dimension anchor 22:30:30 dimension anchor[1/1]: A draconian shifter spell that blocks you from teleporting, blinking, etc. during its duration. Also possessed by the Enchantress. Resistable by MR. 22:30:30 why... would you want that? 22:30:40 any creature attempting an effect that stasis would prevent takes irresistible damage 22:31:00 any creature with a buff that stasis would prevent that enters the aura takes irresistible damage and is debuffed 22:31:20 the iron rod removes the creases in the target's clothing 22:31:35 something like 22:31:53 !learn edit dimension_anchor s|Enchantress.*MR|Enchantress, and a potential translocations miscast effect tacked onto damage in 0.16. Resistable by MR, unless it was through the miscast.| 22:31:54 dimension anchor[1/1]: A draconian shifter spell that blocks you from teleporting, blinking, etc. during its duration. Also possessed by the Enchantress, and a potential translocations miscast effect tacked onto damage in 0.16. Resistable by MR, unless it was through the miscast.. 22:32:01 bloody double periods 22:32:10 haste = berserk > teleport > blink > slow > paralysis for damage values 22:32:19 !learn edit dimension_anchor s|\.\.|.| 22:32:19 dimension anchor[1/1]: A draconian shifter spell that blocks you from teleporting, blinking, etc. during its duration. Also possessed by the Enchantress, and a potential translocations miscast effect tacked onto damage in 0.16. Resistable by MR, unless it was through the miscast. 22:32:20 -!- Isabel has joined ##crawl-dev 22:33:00 did anybody have any objections to drain life paired with legendary pain card's torment 22:33:31 as in random choice between the two? 22:33:40 no, alongside after 22:33:45 to compensate for the health loss 22:33:55 (sorry, people using it against undead / demons) 22:34:10 that seems fairly ridiculous though, since vuln monsters would get tormented and drained? 22:34:28 -!- Pluie has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 22:34:33 yes, it's a bit strong 22:34:55 if only torment wasn't so torment for this one scenario 22:35:16 <|amethyst> temporarily give all mosters rN+2 22:35:37 <|amethyst> (does monster torment resistance even work that way?) 22:36:03 torment, then drain life, then give monsters pain mirror,then zap them with drain, then.. 22:36:29 how about just drain life 22:36:29 like some kind of undead circus routine 22:36:45 any thoughts on sneaking extra data into floor/wall color functions? 22:36:52 You have drawn... the Aristocrats! 22:37:17 well, I was hoping to avoid it being a straight version of something from yred 22:37:20 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:37:30 oh thats right, its not vampiric draining its yred thing 22:37:31 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 22:37:31 crawl-ref/crawl-ref#251 (sdl2 - ad49808 : Steve Melenchuk): The build is still failing. 22:37:31 Change view : https://github.com/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/compare/84f5de5b66c0...ad49808b7385 22:37:31 Build details : http://travis-ci.org/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/builds/40366617 22:37:31 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 22:37:42 obviously torment the player only and then drain life >_> 22:37:42 no it isn't! 22:37:44 bad travis! 22:37:48 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 22:38:13 <|amethyst> trunk is failing the same test 22:38:21 :( 22:38:26 h m m m m m m m m m m m 22:38:30 draining is part of banshee too now, so I'd rather avoid straight draining 22:38:44 <|amethyst> Grunt: err, hm 22:38:53 <|amethyst> Grunt: the webtiles fulldebug one about the point out of bounds 22:39:01 |amethyst: I think that's a one-off thing 22:39:06 ? 22:39:54 03Grunt02 07[sdl2] * 0.16-a0-1988-g6673bdc: Don't produce hieroglyphics when trying to type in numbers. 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=6673bdc37b06 22:39:57 -!- tspark has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:40:05 <|amethyst> Grunt: trunk https://travis-ci.org/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/jobs/40348012 sdl2 https://travis-ci.org/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/jobs/40366623 22:40:26 hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm 22:40:34 <|amethyst> that segfault in https://travis-ci.org/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/jobs/40366627 is different though 22:40:49 yes 22:41:17 Let's see if it happens again with a fresh commit 22:41:18 <|amethyst> (and in gcc but not clang it seems) 22:41:24 clang?? 22:41:24 clang 22:41:41 <|amethyst> uh-oh, werewolf on the level 22:41:50 <|amethyst> oh, just a wererat I guess 22:41:59 ? 22:42:24 <|amethyst> I'm sure I'm misremembering 22:42:38 ??? 22:42:43 <|amethyst> what's the sound of a monster polymorphing and its armour hitting the ground? 22:43:17 <|amethyst> ah 22:43:19 <|amethyst> "clank" 22:43:20 You hear a clank. 22:43:31 ...are you sure you're in the right channel for those questions :) 22:43:31 <|amethyst> so it's the German version of clang 22:43:35 clank?? 22:43:40 .echo clank 22:43:41 clank 22:43:49 das Geclanken 22:44:17 <|amethyst> (or Polish or...) 22:44:36 gammafunk: there is one compelling reason to overhaul the rng -- STL compat 22:44:49 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 22:46:02 <|amethyst> you don't have to overhaul the RNG for that do you? 22:47:00 <|amethyst> just provide the appropriate OO or functional veneer 22:47:11 -!- minmay has joined ##crawl-dev 22:47:29 |amethyst: that's basically overhauling :) 22:47:57 I haven't been able to track down the right interface definition for playing nice with 22:48:23 <|amethyst> hm 22:48:30 <|amethyst> random_shuffle should take random2 22:48:34 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]] 22:48:41 <|amethyst> that's C++98 stuff though 22:49:01 -!- Bloax has quit [Quit: Error: Bloax not found] 22:50:35 <|amethyst> bh: to be usable as a C++11 generator do you need anything beyond an operator()? 22:51:03 |amethyst: absolutely no idea - I just made a quick :%s/register //gc to make it stop annoying me for a while. 22:51:41 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 22:51:49 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: it's a generated file is all 22:52:23 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: so the next time someone changes levcomp.lpp (and remembers to regenerate prebuilt) that will be reverted 22:52:40 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: and users with flex installed will still get the error 22:53:01 yeah I figured it wasn't a proper solution, I just don't have a better one 22:53:43 -!- CrawlOffline|Jho has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 22:54:30 |amethyst: I don't think so. It's unclear which operator()'s need to be implemented 22:54:44 |amethyst: hm, no segfault this time on travis 22:55:24 oh 22:55:33 that's because it hasn't gotten that far yet 22:55:43 ignore me while I babble insanely 22:56:07 |amethyst: it did, however, not get the out of bounds error 22:56:38 <|amethyst> Grunt: that one seems to be random 22:56:50 hm 22:57:02 -!- Textmode has joined ##crawl-dev 22:57:18 <|amethyst> hm 22:57:20 <|amethyst> maybe not 22:57:46 -!- mamgar has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:58:00 it's a bit of a bother to equip each of your cursed items just in order to use remove curse on them; could we maybe have remove curse work on everything in your inventory? 22:58:00 oh, someone rebuilt levcomp 22:58:02 how annoying 22:58:12 it is running the stress test in the relevant build now 22:58:30 zxc232: imo make remove curse work on exactly one (targeted) item instead 22:58:42 or that 22:59:07 ??bh[5 22:59:08 bh[5/6]: we think it's funny that [players] lose 22:59:15 <|amethyst> make it do nothing if you don't worship ashenzari 22:59:29 <|amethyst> (because you also made curses not exist if you don't worship ashenzari) 22:59:45 !send |amethyst the Obsidian Axe 22:59:45 Sending the Obsidian Axe to |amethyst. 23:00:02 starting to wonder if I also should only try to crosscompile windows crawl 23:00:06 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: summon pan lords on unwield, problem solved 23:00:16 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.16-a0-1983-g831c73a: Add more uses of 'brand' 10(25 hours ago, 1 file, 3+ 3-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=831c73a79065 23:00:16 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.16-a0-1984-g1651e00: End the Fen Folio honeymoon 10(88 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=1651e00bde9d 23:00:18 the latest msysgit netinstaller is weird 23:00:55 oops, forgot that commit 23:01:00 ? 23:01:03 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: re the brand thing 23:01:17 it would be nice if it had the right type 23:01:24 somebody's fond of "honeymoon" 23:01:26 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: I was kind of thinking maybe we shoul have union members wpn_brand, arm_brand, etc 23:01:30 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: yeah 23:01:36 imo end the honeymoon honeymoon 23:01:37 <|amethyst> for exactly that reason 23:01:47 theTower: just following my notes! 23:02:13 |amethyst: right now the enums are defined too late, I think... is it safe to include itemprop-enum in externs.h? that seems messy. 23:02:58 <|amethyst> oh 23:03:14 <|amethyst> the enums are only used in item code and ranged_attack 23:03:25 <|amethyst> oh, two other minor places 23:03:29 yeah, we generally refer to them as ints 23:03:30 which makes me sad 23:03:57 <|amethyst> I think we could move those to enum.h 23:04:43 more books need cool names 23:04:50 or possibly to some separate, smaller enum file 23:04:56 that doesn't have the itemprop.cc declarations 23:05:04 (move itemprop.cc declarations into a new itemprop.h?) 23:05:09 as opposed to "Book of [Thing]" 23:05:23 s/books/demons/ 23:05:28 mm 23:05:28 ontoclasm: my only concern there is making it harder to tell that a book is a randart. is that good? 23:05:29 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: if it's going to be included in externs.h that doesn't really help though 23:05:30 idk 23:05:39 !send ontoclasm tempest tyrants 23:05:39 Sending tempest tyrants to ontoclasm. 23:05:43 |amethyst: true 23:05:44 hm 23:05:54 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: if you add a new armour_type you only have to recompile a few files 23:05:55 yeah, true. 23:06:10 <|amethyst> well 23:06:26 <|amethyst> maybe more than a few because some headers include itemprop-enum.h 23:06:49 <|amethyst> but it seems like adding a brand would be a less frequent thing that adding a new subtype? 23:06:52 <|amethyst> maybe not though 23:06:58 <|amethyst> s/that/than/ 23:08:34 <|amethyst> hm... maybe, if we're going to structure our includes in a way that optimises for PCH (AppHdr.h for example), we should try again to move to PCH build by default 23:08:39 ??sdl2 23:08:40 sdl2[1/1]: TODO: map keycodes better, refactor WME_ framework to line up with SDL2's framework, get android working 23:08:55 is that first one still a problem? 23:09:05 I'd like someone else to look at it, at least :) 23:09:06 <|amethyst> I think kilobyte encountered a few problems (possibly compiler bugs) in the past 23:09:22 <|amethyst> or maybe it was SamB 23:10:28 Shadow mimic kills don't trigger mummy death curses 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9155 by Kyrris 23:10:38 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 23:10:38 crawl-ref/crawl-ref#252 (sdl2 - 6673bdc : Steve Melenchuk): The build was fixed. 23:10:38 Change view : https://github.com/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/compare/ad49808b7385...6673bdc37b06 23:10:38 Build details : http://travis-ci.org/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/builds/40367570 23:10:38 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 23:10:57 Grunt: !!! 23:11:12 %git sdl2 23:11:12 07Grunt02 * 0.16-a0-1988-g6673bdc: Don't produce hieroglyphics when trying to type in numbers. 10(33 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=6673bdc37b06 23:11:13 !!! 23:11:26 :) 23:11:34 (: 23:11:40 you're not doy!!! 23:11:42 gammafunk: hi doy 23:11:46 (:?? 23:11:46 (: 23:11:47 Grunt: hi... 23:11:48 can you prove that 23:11:51 Can you?! 23:11:55 admittedly not 23:12:02 d a n g 23:13:36 hm 23:13:42 who made the current snake floors? 23:13:53 let's find out 23:15:34 -!- dis- has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 23:16:34 -!- TangoBravo has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:17:13 %git ae566cd 23:17:13 07kilobyte02 * 0.10-a0-2345-gae566cd: roctavian's edits to Snake floor tiles. 10(2 years, 11 months ago, 18 files, 19+ 5-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=ae566cd63edf 23:18:15 ! 23:18:51 The unedited tiles date back to the original tiles commit 23:18:54 possibly enne's?? 23:19:02 %git 62f7040 23:19:03 07Enne02 * 0.4-a0-786-g62f7040: Tiles! 10(7 years ago, 2441 files, 26569+ 109-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=62f7040f14b3 23:19:18 yeah, found that 23:19:44 i do like the base tile, it's the weird shaded bits that make it look weird 23:20:08 maybe we'll turn it into something, it really jsut needs better variation work 23:21:28 -!- Lasty_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:21:41 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.16-a0-1982-g8124c91 (34) 23:22:06 <|amethyst> are they in rltiles maybe? 23:22:29 hm, dunno 23:24:38 It does not appear so. 23:24:52 <|amethyst> when was Snake added? 23:25:12 pre-DCSS 23:25:37 <|amethyst> I was wondering if it dated to the first devteam or to linley 23:25:41 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.16-a0-1985-g5f12227: Increase low-weight monster Gozag goldification 10(7 minutes ago, 1 file, 6+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=5f12227c2e3a 23:25:46 <|amethyst> I guess I can check that repo 23:27:07 would it be confusing if i left these in as FLOOR_SNAKE or should i rename them 23:27:24 (or dump them in unused) 23:27:27 <|amethyst> Snake Pit was added in 2.80 it appears 23:27:51 hmmmm 23:28:34 !tell roctavian I'm changing Snake floors, but maybe we could make something of the previous ones? They just need a better set of variations IMO 23:28:35 ontoclasm: OK, I'll let roctavian know. 23:29:26 I was hoping that any spare tiles could be useful for one of those two portals I keep yammering on about >_> 23:29:51 but yellow chainy piles are not very gauntlety or demonpity 23:30:05 what about red chainy piles 23:30:15 perhaps 23:30:26 <|amethyst> might want to get some Preparation H 23:30:31 -!- Lasty_ has joined ##crawl-dev 23:30:33 also it's kinda crappy but you might look at uhhhh 23:30:48 floor_etched 23:30:54 right 23:31:08 which i made and then didn't like enough to actually put anywhere 23:31:12 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 23:31:24 maybe I'll butt it over to doroklohe 23:31:54 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 23:32:53 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1000017/crawl/mosaictest9.png 23:33:32 sweer 23:33:35 er, sweet 23:33:48 swee 23:33:50 swee 23:33:54 (bird noise) 23:33:59 you're a bird noise 23:34:35 admittedly 23:34:40 oh 23:34:47 weird question but 23:34:52 someone should replace the current shrike tile with a colour-inverted version of the raven tile 23:34:53 I'm not sure I like the complete degridding of space 23:35:08 what do you think about the ratio of X to ][ 23:35:12 yeah it looks real cool but I am worried about degridding 23:35:19 it's a very nice visual effect though 23:35:20 i know :C 23:35:23 I wonder how it would look if you imposed a faint grid on it somehow 23:35:26 just independent of the lines 23:35:30 would it ruin it? 23:35:41 i don't know 23:35:53 maybe have the cracks between the in-between tiles a little more emphasized along the gridlines 23:36:14 i mean, the reason it's degridded is that the curves are weirdly offset to the grid 23:36:29 maybe just run with it and see if anybody actually complains 23:36:29 but i'll see what it looks like 23:36:36 <|amethyst> (wang tiles could fix that) 23:36:49 haha 23:38:33 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 23:38:33 crawl-ref/crawl-ref#253 (master - 1651e00 : Nicholas Feinberg): The build is still failing. 23:38:33 Change view : https://github.com/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/compare/8124c910e6d9...1651e00bde9d 23:38:33 Build details : http://travis-ci.org/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/builds/40368140 23:38:33 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 23:39:01 -!- Sharkman1231 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:39:02 why does it join and then leave instead of just hanging around 23:39:10 PleasingFungus: still....failing... 23:39:27 n o o o o o o o o o o 23:39:30 <|amethyst> nicolae-: probably to limit the amount of noise the bot has to ignore 23:39:43 Grunt: could travis use the mailmap when announcing this maybe? 23:39:48 <|amethyst> nicolae-: since it looks like just one bot rather than the pool, say, CIA had 23:40:04 I guess if it could, it would be doing so 23:40:09 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 23:40:57 why does it have to ignore noise, it just says thigns 23:40:57 things 23:42:11 <|amethyst> nicolae-: the IRC server sends it traffic from all the channels it's in 23:42:19 ah 23:42:36 -!- Trevise has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:43:23 gammafunk: talk to doy 23:43:33 <|amethyst> hm 23:43:55 <|amethyst> wonder if we can make the travis-bot not spit out "change view" 23:44:06 <|amethyst> I guess I could just regexp-ignore those lines 23:44:59 <|amethyst> wonder how many online crawl repos are used by our infrastructure 23:45:01 <|amethyst> four? 23:45:33 <|amethyst> gitorious, git.develz.org, s-z.org/neil/git, and now github 23:49:56 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 23:50:04 hm 23:50:23 I think I can eventually get a nice Android build with SDL2; I just need to figure out how to get the contribs into the Android build system... 23:52:26 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 23:52:53 Grunt: where are you building it from, inside some Android dev thingy on your machine? 23:53:23 should all of the basic swamp ending vaults have a Lernaean hydra? 23:53:35 they can, 1/11 times 23:53:58 even the classic one that's just small-ish cave? 23:54:17 yes 23:54:24 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 23:54:29 gammafunk: I'm borrowing SDL2's example android-project and trying to follow the instructions 23:54:52 Grunt: hrm, how will you test it? 23:54:55 -!- ZRN_ has quit [] 23:55:42 <|amethyst> in a VM I presume 23:55:49 <|amethyst> or on a phone :) 23:57:03 I have a Nexus 7 (2013). 23:57:17 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:57:28 My phone is also an Android device though :) 23:57:50 <|amethyst> "phone" 23:58:10 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1000017/crawl/mosaicgrid.png 23:58:12 maybe? 23:58:13 <|amethyst> it's just a phone without cell service, right? 23:58:25 smartcamera 23:58:54 anh, i think i'm just gonna push it 23:59:13 and if it turns out too hard to read then i'll see about changing it 23:59:20 Grunt: when building sdl2 in mingw, windows 8 CC src/audio/directsound/SDL_directsound.o 23:59:23 In file included from src/audio/directsound/SDL_directsound.h:26, 23:59:26 from src/audio/directsound/SDL_directsound.c:31: 23:59:28 src/audio/directsound/directx.h:96:19: error: ddraw.h: No such file or director 23:59:52 so maybe mingw builds of sdl2 aren't working?