00:00:56 wwwhhheeeaaalllsss 00:02:28 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.16-a0-1518-g7ab7ace (34) 00:02:43 stainable (L27 MiFi) ERROR in 'mon-cast.cc' at line 1126: Unknown monster spell 'Draconian Breath' cast by grey draconian knight (Zot:5) 00:04:47 stainable (L27 MiFi) ERROR in 'mon-cast.cc' at line 1126: Unknown monster spell 'Draconian Breath' cast by white draconian annihilator (Zot:5) 00:05:14 ... 00:06:30 okay, here we go. 00:06:33 sorry in advance, all. 00:06:35 <|amethyst> working on a fix 00:06:48 <|amethyst> go ahead 00:06:50 <|amethyst> I can rebase 00:07:03 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.16-a0-1519-g638acd4: Rot reform 10(4 months ago, 32 files, 598+ 667-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=638acd453f4a 00:07:03 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.16-a0-1520-gf6a7d87: Disable spraying chunks of forbidden meat 10(4 days ago, 1 file, 17+ 9-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=f6a7d877ea18 00:07:03 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.16-a0-1521-g03460b4: Shift food conducts to purely butchering 10(4 days ago, 8 files, 86+ 127-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=03460b4d2985 00:07:03 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.16-a0-1522-g7d34dea: Remove rotting chunks & corpses & coagulated blood 10(2 hours ago, 30 files, 92+ 702-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=7d34deab64fb 00:07:03 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.16-a0-1523-ga3a863a: Guard against malformed timers 10(74 minutes ago, 1 file, 15+ 6-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=a3a863abc2de 00:07:03 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.16-a0-1524-g6d438dd: More rot error-handling 10(15 minutes ago, 4 files, 42+ 14-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=6d438dd9f444 00:07:03 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.16-a0-1525-gd4ecbbd: Deprecate potions of coagulated blood 10(5 minutes ago, 10 files, 40+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=d4ecbbd7e3ff 00:07:31 severe ood nerfs occurring 00:07:33 rip rotting 00:07:40 ...surely that should be called chunk reform too 00:07:50 I forgot to change the title 00:08:10 gh buff 00:08:17 ya 00:08:52 also it turns out the difference between rotten meat and non-rotten meat was super tiny anyway 00:08:53 re healing 00:09:22 the game had us all fooled...... 00:11:35 -!- grillatactics__ has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 00:13:05 PlateCaptain (L27 GrAr) ERROR in 'mon-util.cc' at line 2311: Invalid draconian subrace: 271 (Zot:2) 00:14:05 !glasses 00:14:05 ( •_•)    ( •_•)>⌐■-■    (⌐■_■) 00:14:12 <|amethyst> !lm * crash x=vlong 00:14:12 9484. [2014-10-21 05:13:02] [vlong=0.16-a0-1511-g480f9ae] PlateCaptain the Slayer (L27 GrAr of Ashenzari) ERROR in 'mon-util.cc' at line 2311: Invalid draconian subrace: 271 (Zot:2) 00:14:22 oh, that was the bug I fixed! 00:14:26 <|amethyst> yeah 00:14:27 r i p 00:14:30 rebuild?? 00:14:31 http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rebuild/ https://dobrazupa.org/rebuild/ http://crawl.lantea.net/rebuild/ http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/rebuild/ Bug Grunt, |amethyst, or Nap kin for CDO. Use your powers wisely. 00:14:33 <|amethyst> wait 00:14:37 <|amethyst> working on something 00:14:45 ok 00:14:58 <|amethyst> hmmm 00:15:10 <|amethyst> xv doesn't seem to show drac breaths? 00:15:56 <|amethyst> anyway, xD does, which is good enough for my purposes 00:17:08 LittleDigitalZero (L16 DECj) ERROR in 'mon-util.cc' at line 2311: Invalid draconian subrace: 271 (D:13) 00:21:32 -!- rax has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:21:36 -!- rax_ has joined ##crawl-dev 00:24:17 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 00:34:33 03|amethyst02 07* 0.16-a0-1526-gb59d5dc: Fix compilation. 10(13 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=b59d5dcbc376 00:34:33 03|amethyst02 07* 0.16-a0-1527-ge7119b7: Replace Draconian Breath on old draconians. 10(17 minutes ago, 1 file, 12+ 6-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=e7119b712143 00:35:06 |amethyst: oops 00:41:38 -!- Taraiph is now known as Tara|sleep 00:41:50 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.16-a0-1527-ge7119b7 (34) 00:42:52 !lg * recent hesu / name=gammafunk 00:42:52 743/866 games for * (recent hesu): N=743/866 (85.80%) 00:43:03 !hs * hesu 00:43:04 1390. ldf the Meteorologist (L27 HESu of Vehumet), escaped with the Orb and 15 runes on 2014-01-18 01:14:38, with 9990668 points after 169311 turns and 1d+0:01:12. 00:43:11 hm. 00:48:58 !lg . -log 00:48:59 2328. gammafunk, XL11 HESu, T:6989: http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/gammafunk/morgue-gammafunk-20141021-053729.txt 00:49:22 2x !haste 00:49:33 no id scrolls that game, saddly 00:49:45 who removed them. who??? 00:49:46 quaff id is rarely enjoyable 00:49:53 wow and 00:49:56 pot of decay! 00:50:10 almost like getting 3 exp pots 00:50:47 Midpoint (L9 VSGl) ASSERT(!stack_timer.empty()) in 'rot.cc' at line 296 failed. (D:8) 00:51:30 oh, first rotreform crash 00:51:37 !crashlog 00:51:38 9486. Midpoint, XL9 VSGl, T:6175 (milestone): http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/Midpoint/crash-Midpoint-20141021-055044.txt 00:52:25 Midpoint (L9 VSGl) ASSERT(!stack_timer.empty()) in 'rot.cc' at line 296 failed. (D:8) 00:53:13 well, shit. 00:54:22 oh I'm bad at code 00:54:30 thank god 00:54:59 ??rebuild 00:55:00 rebuild[1/2]: http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rebuild/ https://dobrazupa.org/rebuild/ http://crawl.lantea.net/rebuild/ http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/rebuild/ Bug Grunt, |amethyst, or Nap kin for CDO. Use your powers wisely. 00:55:19 -!- nrook has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91 [Firefox 32.0.3/20140923175406]] 00:55:41 I was terrified that was going to be a hard crash to debug. 00:56:28 HilariousDeathArtist (L4 TeEE) ASSERT(!stack_timer.empty()) in 'rot.cc' at line 296 failed. (D:2) 00:57:42 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.16-a0-1528-ge374a92 (34) 01:00:50 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.16-a0-1528-ge374a92: Fix a bad assert 10(6 minutes ago, 1 file, 3+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=e374a92d7f0c 01:03:21 B1inky (L13 OpWr) ASSERT(!stack_timer.empty()) in 'rot.cc' at line 296 failed. (Lair:5) 01:04:27 animosity (L27 DECj) ERROR in 'mon-cast.cc' at line 1173: Unknown monster spell 'Delayed Fireball' cast by Xohuf (Zig:27) 01:06:17 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.16-a0-1528-ge374a92 (34) 01:07:30 -!- pentax has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 01:08:08 haha 01:08:21 Kadarus (L10 KoAs) ASSERT(!stack_timer.empty()) in 'rot.cc' at line 296 failed. (D:8) 01:08:23 delayed fireball, new monster spell 01:09:51 well, why not 01:10:25 as a shim for normal fireball 01:10:36 since it's already implicitly delayed by the dumb AI 01:10:43 well 01:11:12 hm. I guess that's the only actual problem spell 01:11:40 delayed fireball is clearly instant. 01:12:05 no no, what'd be great is if they'd deliver a two-part punchline 01:12:11 and release the fireball in the middle 01:12:16 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.16-a0-1528-ge374a92 (34) 01:12:18 kind of like their version of !glasses 01:13:02 -!- theTower has quit [Quit: leaving] 01:14:14 bet it wouldn't be too hard to hack mon speach to allow this 01:14:19 *speech 01:14:52 -!- gammafunk has quit [Quit: leaving] 01:14:55 -!- mong has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.2] 01:15:10 -!- milski has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:15:42 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.16-a0-1529-gf034e03: Don't let pan lords try to cast DFireball 10(34 seconds ago, 2 files, 1+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=f034e03ccdc6 01:17:05 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 36.0a1/20141017030201]] 01:17:11 -!- Amnesthesia is now known as Amnesthesia|Else 01:17:13 Unstable 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reason this is in a branch is that the servers need manual updates; after that, I won't have a problem with pushing further changes (mostly) directly to master 05:59:46 edlothiol: OK, I'll let gammafunk know. 06:03:18 -!- Basil has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 06:08:08 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 06:15:54 Makhleb doesn't restore HP for Sticky Flame deaths. 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9058 by Psiweapon 06:20:14 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 06:23:17 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 06:27:29 -!- Kramell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:28:42 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 06:29:07 -!- Kramell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:30:52 -!- amatsu has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 06:31:26 -!- Kramell has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:37:05 -!- AGinsberg has quit [*.net *.split] 06:37:24 -!- jacobian has quit [*.net *.split] 06:37:24 -!- Zermako_ has 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timeout: 240 seconds] 07:12:21 in can_ingest: if (you_min_hunger() == you_max_hunger()) 07:12:21 return true; 07:12:34 beautiful 07:12:48 the best part is that that's only true if you_foodless... 07:14:04 <|amethyst> that was to handle djinn 07:14:12 <|amethyst> I believe 07:14:14 <|amethyst> %git cdc4683 07:14:14 07kilobyte02 * 0.13-a0-2213-gcdc4683: Don't claim that you're "not hungry enough" if you can't hunger. 10(1 year, 4 months ago, 1 file, 3+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=cdc4683f6eb9 07:14:33 huh 07:16:02 -!- fridurmus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:16:20 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 07:16:27 -!- Brannock has joined ##crawl-dev 07:20:00 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 07:20:59 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:23:12 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 07:25:29 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 07:27:32 -!- fridurmus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 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13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=67794f7bacff 08:36:04 -!- meatpath has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:40:53 -!- debo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:41:06 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 08:50:48 -!- Quashie has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:56:07 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 08:56:35 -!- Kramell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:58:00 -!- Tara|sleep has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:04:29 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 09:08:01 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 09:08:28 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 09:08:58 -!- CKyle has quit [Client Quit] 09:12:25 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 09:15:56 a pan lord spell set i just generated: throw flame, fire storm, invisibility, corona, blink, esc: hellfire burst, dig 09:17:03 throw flame seems a bit weak 09:17:16 the rest seems okay 09:19:08 -!- Siegurt has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 09:19:09 -!- Z_LAMP has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:19:12 -!- stanzill has quit [Quit: au rev] 09:20:30 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 09:22:19 -!- Xenobreeder has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:25:42 -!- jacobian has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 09:28:14 -!- _D_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 09:29:38 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 09:30:59 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 09:35:50 Lightli: chunks still rot away, but they don't have a "rotten" stage in-between. 09:36:26 wheals: I really love that l_item had a really unhappy note about can_ingest returning true for potions 09:37:01 and can_ingest's potion case seemed to be there, specifically, because it was "called by lua". 09:38:09 -!- fridurmus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:41:07 -!- _D_ has quit [Quit: leaving] 09:43:33 pan lords with more than 2 spells? 09:43:35 unknown monster: "pan lord" 09:43:35 %??pan lord 09:43:40 unknown monster: "pandemonium lord lord" 09:43:40 %??pandemonium lord lord 09:43:44 pandemonium lord (02&) | Spd: 10-19 | HD: 25 | HP: 117-241 | AC/EV: 16/15 | Dam: 34 | 05demonic, 10doors, fighter, evil, spellcaster, see invisible | Res: 06magic(166), 05fire++, 02cold, 03poison, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 5562 | Sp: (random)throw icicle (3d32), b.venom (3d26), invisibility, toxic radiance, freezing cloud (2d33), 04esc: b.energy (3d20), sum.greater demon | Sz: Large | Int: high. 09:43:44 %??pandemonium lord 09:43:54 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:44:05 (yes i'm working on fixing that) 09:47:24 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 09:49:42 unknown monster: "pandemonium lord lord lord" 09:49:42 %??pandemonium lord lord lord 09:52:19 unknown monster: "pandemonium lard" 09:52:19 %??pandemonium lard 09:52:22 fr 09:55:37 fr quicks-wait we have that 09:55:40 fr iron dragon armour 10:00:52 -!- alaspooryorick has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:04:25 pandemonium lord armour, make it by chopping up a pan lord! 10:05:40 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 10:06:54 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 10:08:20 <|amethyst> I got to use some Crawl code in class today 10:08:40 <|amethyst> %git 830ab83 10:08:41 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.16-a0-1163-g830ab83: Fix armour randart tiles (|amethyst) 10(13 days ago, 1 file, 4+ 4-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=830ab83b2979 10:09:39 <|amethyst> (as an example of why we ask them to have a single return per function) 10:09:56 -!- rax_ is now known as rax 10:10:01 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 10:11:40 -!- tabstorm has joined ##crawl-dev 10:15:40 i just spent 10 minutes trying to figure out why my monster fix wasn't working 10:15:52 it turns out replace_all takes a string, not a string&... 10:17:22 -!- siepu has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:18:15 -!- Morg0th has quit [Quit: leaving] 10:19:47 |amethyst: two more patches: http://sprunge.us/TBhA 10:20:23 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 10:21:07 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:22:04 rip rot 10:24:12 |amethyst: imo, the problem was 'a function doing too much', not multiple return; easier to teach avoiding the latter than the former, ofc 10:25:05 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 10:26:27 -!- Hailley has quit [Quit: Petra is closed!] 10:32:59 -!- jeanjacques has quit [Quit: quit] 10:34:45 03wheals02 07* 0.16-a0-1534-gdeffd7c: Refactor Tiamat colour-shifting. 10(10 minutes ago, 1 file, 7+ 30-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=deffd7cca33a 10:34:45 03wheals02 07* 0.16-a0-1535-g07585c3: Let Tiamat be yellow, mottled, or pale. 10(7 minutes ago, 1 file, 3+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=07585c3947d4 10:35:40 !send PleasingFungus eternal rotting 10:35:40 Sending eternal rotting to PleasingFungus. 10:35:48 heh 10:36:03 unknown ench: "rotting" 10:36:03 %??infernal demonspawn perm_ench:rotting 10:36:07 infernal demonspawn (056) | Spd: 10 | HD: 10 | HP: 41-68 | AC/EV: 6/12 | Dam: 2004(fire:10-19) | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors | Res: 06magic(40), 05fire++ | Vul: 08holy++, 11silver | XP: 709 | Sz: Medium | Int: normal. 10:36:07 %??infernal demonspawn perm_ench:rot 10:38:07 |amethyst: imo pick a crawlcode a day as a lesson in how to avoid bad code habits <_< 10:40:17 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 10:40:27 -!- Siegurt has quit [Client Quit] 10:47:05 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 10:47:28 the options guide mentions, as an example filter 10:47:30 drop_filter ^= rotting 10:47:33 what should I replace this with? 10:47:37 ...cursed? 10:47:56 -!- LexAckson has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:48:39 !lg * vlong>=0.16-a0-1473-g6a74f0b pan 10:48:40 No games for * (vlong>=0.16-a0-1473-g6a74f0b pan). 10:48:52 PleasingFungus: forbidden? 10:49:14 Grunt: are you saying I shouldn't take my dgfi into pan now? 10:49:23 rchandra: do it! 10:49:28 -!- Taraiph has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:49:43 Grunt: well, you can't hold forbidden food now. except blood potions, maybe 10:49:49 I guess 10:50:04 except I think I un-forbade blood potions 10:50:04 is drop_filter about food? 10:50:04 PleasingFungus: who said anything about food :) 10:50:12 oh right 10:50:16 equipment exists. 10:50:25 !hs PleasingFungus febe 10:50:25 1. PleasingFungus the Gouger (L8 FeBe of Trog), blasted by an orc priest (divine providence) on D:7 on 2014-03-14 18:41:38, with 1903 points after 7655 turns and 0:21:59. 10:50:40 <|amethyst> rchandra: drop_filter is about what d, selects 10:51:18 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: and, no, I wouldn't used cursed there 10:51:24 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: since that is a substring of "uncursed" 10:51:37 erp 10:51:44 ^cursed 10:52:02 that's arguably too advanced for a basic example? 10:52:12 <|amethyst> and doesn't work anyway 10:52:31 1learn add devteam oh right equipment exists. 10:52:31 oops :) 10:52:48 ??oops 10:52:49 pleasingfungus[1/12]: oops 10:52:50 oh man 10:52:59 docs/develop/monster_speech.txt has 10:53:02 a list of monsters by glyph 10:53:05 . 10:53:06 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: how about dangerous_item ? 10:53:10 j snails: elephant slug, giant slug, agate snail 10:53:24 rip.............. 10:54:01 does it still have G giant spore 10:54:03 If you'd like to see dangerous items at a glance, use 10:54:05 menu_colour ^= inventory:red: dangerous_item 10:54:07 ? 10:54:14 there's a bunch of places where 'rotting' is used as an example 10:54:19 (would that work) 10:54:29 dangerous_item is immolation and such i think 10:54:30 wheals: no :( 10:54:33 wheals: ya 10:54:38 wheals: maybe 10:55:09 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: hm... dangerous already has a menu colour 10:55:17 so do rotting items, tho 10:55:25 well. I guess they're 'useless' 10:55:26 idk 10:55:30 I'm just gonna leave it out for now. 10:55:44 you could colour agility or might 10:55:45 there are plenty of other examples in that section 10:56:51 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 10:57:11 -!- ldf has joined ##crawl-dev 10:57:28 -!- slitherrr has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 10:57:53 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: menu_colour ^= inventory:blue:inert 10:58:18 |amethyst: pushed a minute ago 10:58:24 be the change you want to see in the docs! 10:58:39 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.16-a0-1536-g2c50dbd: Remove unused chunk icons 10(29 minutes ago, 4 files, 1+ 4-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=2c50dbd9141c 10:58:39 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.16-a0-1537-gab02dee: Remove support for auto_drop_chunks = rotten 10(15 minutes ago, 3 files, 1+ 9-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=ab02dee88362 10:58:39 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.16-a0-1538-g0ee27c8: Update documentation 10(2 minutes ago, 3 files, 16+ 31-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=0ee27c877933 10:58:39 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.16-a0-1539-gf55127b: Remove a rather old monster glyph list 10(82 seconds ago, 1 file, 0+ 95-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=f55127b96e5c 10:58:42 if you think it's necessary; that section seemed to be a list of 'common rcfile tweaks' 11:00:00 <|amethyst> yeah, I think the other examples that are already there are fine 11:00:10 do you know if potions use plus2 for anything? 11:00:20 that should probably be a boolean option now 11:00:25 wow 11:00:26 yes probably 11:00:31 also, wtf 11:00:31 the manual says ghouls are horrible? 11:00:33 this code is very bad 11:00:37 wheals: the manual is right!! 11:00:45 PleasingFungus: are you in food.cc 11:00:46 ??ugh 11:00:46 ugh ~ gh ~ ghoul[1/3]: Player ghouls have claws 1 (see {unarmed combat}), rN+++, rC+, rPois, and torment immunity. They also rot over time. Eating chunks can cure rot and/or restore HP; these effects occur independently, and are more likely when eating rotten or contaminated chunks. Monster ghouls are quite powerful, have a ton of HP, and rot you. 11:00:49 <3 11:00:50 since it is 11:00:51 wheals: no I'm in stash.cc 11:00:57 stash.cc uses plus2 to track corpse/chunk rotting 11:01:00 oh yah i noticed that 11:01:03 except............... 11:01:04 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 11:01:05 and it doesn't use the define either 11:01:10 doesn't plus2 also hold corpse butcher amount.....? 11:01:23 i think it has a fake local copy of the item? 11:01:24 (like, progress on butchering) 11:01:32 also, yeah, that's what I'm fixing 11:01:33 and you can't see butcher progress 11:01:33 the former thing 11:01:43 -!- Quazifuji has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:02:35 <|amethyst> you're making the stash hold the item itself rather than a local copy? 11:02:42 <|amethyst> what about off-level items? 11:02:52 i think he means making it use the constant 11:03:07 <|amethyst> oh 11:03:09 ya 11:03:24 <|amethyst> ok then :) 11:03:41 -!- fridurmus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:06:37 -!- Sharkman1231 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:08:57 03wheals02 07* 0.16-a0-1540-gab37d9f: Fix reversed summons Animate Dead logic. 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=ab37d9f36f0d 11:09:40 alternatively, "Nerf Call Imp." 11:09:49 gammafunk would be so happy!!!! 11:10:26 someone should probably figure out exactly what MUT_SAPROVOROUS does right now, if anything 11:10:35 it interacts with contamination_ratio, but that's pretty dead... 11:10:45 except that gourmand...? 11:13:31 oh, I just realized I buffed kiku's corpse drop 11:19:25 -!- Siegurt has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 11:20:37 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 36.0a1/20141017030201]] 11:21:14 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 11:23:46 -!- stickyfingers has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:24:22 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.16-a0-1541-gbb5cd80: Update stash code for rotting removal 10(16 minutes ago, 1 file, 4+ 9-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=bb5cd80e5ae2 11:24:22 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.16-a0-1542-g353cc98: Crudely adjust kiku's corpse drop for norot 10(5 minutes ago, 1 file, 3+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=353cc9806131 11:24:22 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.16-a0-1543-gd9545fa: Adjust inventory code for norot/no-corpse-pickup 10(5 minutes ago, 2 files, 1+ 33-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=d9545fa2fd67 11:27:16 -!- Taraiph has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:27:50 why not just make it random2(200 - you.piety) 11:28:03 or rather, random2(FRESHEST_CORPSE - you.piety) 11:29:42 ogre mage (06O) | Spd: 10 | HD: 10 | HP: 40-68 | AC/EV: 1/7 | Dam: 12 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, spellcaster, see invisible | Res: 06magic(80) | XP: 925 | Sp: haste other, crystal spear (3d28), blink, b.fire (3d18), b.cold (3d18), minor healing (2d5) / haste other, mystic blast (3d15), invisibility, confuse, slow, 04esc: teleport self / haste other, paralyse, haste, b.lightning (3d17), confuse, 04esc: teleport self / haste other, sting (d10), blink, b.lightning (3d17), banishment, minor healing (2d5) / haste other, throw flame (3d8), invisibility, teleport other, fireball (3d19) | Sz: Large | Int: high. 11:29:42 <|amethyst> %??ogre mage 11:29:49 <|amethyst> wheals: thanks for the fixes 11:30:14 no problem 11:30:24 it's still rather ineffcient, i think 11:30:53 <|amethyst> and thank both you and Grunt for removing the need for all the ability-detection hacks :) 11:31:07 -!- Aryth has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:31:12 <3 11:32:50 %git 820b7ca5be58857ff70ca77f1151d23632930b9c 11:32:51 07dolorous02 * 0.8.0-a0-1562-g820b7ca: Make zombified monsters retain their stats (at least HD and HP). 10(4 years, 1 month ago, 6 files, 37+ 26-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=820b7ca5be58 11:33:16 huh 11:36:24 ok, looks like receive corpses has had those chances since the beginning 11:36:36 -!- slitherrr has joined ##crawl-dev 11:37:29 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 11:41:24 wheals: well, the really weird thing is that the code assumes that FRESHEST_CORPSE == MAX_PIETY 11:41:45 or, rather, that FRESHEST_CORPSE is similar to, but somewhat larger than, MAX_PIETY 11:41:45 that is true 11:42:08 you could scale it i guess 11:42:13 yeah you could but 11:42:44 a better solution might be to have a fixed (slightly random, not based on piety) corpse longevity, *and* randomly skeletonize some small subset of the corpses (based on piety) 11:43:08 since the longevity thing was a weird indirect proxy for "randomly make some subset of these corpses rotten", which doesn't work now 11:43:30 and the longevity of kiku's corpse drop corpses isn't really meaningful aside from "rotten or not"! 11:43:33 -!- Pluie has joined ##crawl-dev 11:44:15 i've never found the longevity to be particularly meaningful at all 11:44:23 does anyone really use them a while after drop? 11:44:34 for corpse rot sometimes yes 11:44:40 especially now that you can't carry them 11:44:47 -!- keszocze has quit [Quit: leaving] 11:44:47 -!- Aryth1 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 11:44:53 -!- Pacra has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:46:59 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 11:47:01 -!- fridurmus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:47:24 -!- domiryuu has quit [Quit: leaving] 11:47:25 i question the "rotten or not" then, since they still made the same stuff, except for twisted res 11:47:44 it would be about 'edible or not', I'd think 11:47:47 brutal vp nerfs....... 11:48:05 (also, gh wanted to be at low kiku piety.........?) 11:48:07 dang................ 11:48:15 oh, people eat kiku drop? 11:48:21 ghouls and vp do! 11:48:24 clearly need bervampires to compensate 11:48:26 if you can call those 'people' 11:48:30 oh yeah that sounds viable for those 11:48:38 !lg . vp won 11:48:38 1. SGrunt the Vampire of Death (L27 VpNe of Kikubaaqudgha), escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2013-06-15 02:41:05, with 1302778 points after 140637 turns and 7:06:22. 11:48:39 !hs Grunt kiku gh 11:48:40 1. SGrunt the Thanatomancer (L27 GhWz of Kikubaaqudgha), slain by a blue devil (summoned by a mummy priest) on Tomb:2 (tomb_2) on 2013-02-11 17:32:58, with 544469 points after 174088 turns and 11:56:06. 11:48:43 rip 11:48:44 heh 11:48:50 idk. it's not critical, certainly. the skeletonization thing might be nice for ~flavor~, but neither change is essential 11:48:51 death by terminal boredom 11:48:55 Boredom has come for Grunt... 11:49:01 rip 11:49:22 I'll probably push longevity-indepedent-of-piety through regardless, just for the sake of code sanity 11:50:00 ...also, at some point I should probably get around to randomizing corpse/chunk/blood longevity slightly; right now you can tell down to 20 aut when they'll rot, which is in principle not ideal 11:50:12 on the other hand, who cares. 11:50:47 -!- Siegurt has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 11:51:02 !hs gw gh 11:51:02 No games for gw (gh). 11:51:10 Grunt: ghw when 11:53:16 ghoulish..... 11:54:09 I'm thinking about changing the 75% chance of rot-heal from chunks 100%, for the sake of my personal sanity whenever I next play gh; probably increase rot rate by (something less than 33%) to compensate, I guess. 11:54:17 *to 100% 11:54:47 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 11:57:15 -!- Stygian has quit [Quit: Ciao.] 11:57:53 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 11:58:36 also, I had an exciting thought about butchering 11:58:58 PleasingFungus: You enjoyed that? 11:59:36 it seems like you could change it to a single-turn action, using 'g' 11:59:47 'g'et a corpse, pick up some chunks and maybe leave a hide on the floor 11:59:58 idk that there's any particular reason it should be multi-turn? 12:00:05 03wheals02 07* 0.16-a0-1544-g0833c94: Update documentation. 10(34 minutes ago, 2 files, 0+ 8-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=0833c94ca3fe 12:00:05 03wheals02 07* 0.16-a0-1545-gb37f041: Remove saprovorousness. 10(6 minutes ago, 9 files, 18+ 69-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=b37f04178de6 12:00:40 wheals: ty for checking that! 12:00:41 dunno about multi-turnness but currently there's an option that makes chopping one keypress 12:00:50 confirm_butcher = never 12:00:57 and that would be hard to preserve, i think 12:01:31 ya. idk. 12:01:32 -!- SomeStupidGuy has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 12:01:36 it's relevant when fighting monsters that animate dead, or reincarnate 12:02:22 that's true, though a single turn is still *a* cost 12:03:07 eh. I'll come back with this once I've sorted out my thoughts further 12:03:55 wheals: a truly noble soul would clean up contamination_ratio() in food.cc. sadly, I am not that noble 12:04:10 too busy watching qw play gh 12:04:49 gh of ru with trog wrath 12:05:12 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 12:05:49 aw, hangs on Eat_permafood failed despite returning true. 12:05:51 -!- reaverb has joined ##crawl-dev 12:05:52 must be trying to eat bread 12:06:36 wheals: The remove saprovore commit removed the code to that handled ogre fast meta when updating saves. 12:06:37 reaverb: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 12:06:41 Not that it matters probably... 12:06:46 haha 12:06:48 ogre nerf 12:07:08 -!- Mazed has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:07:57 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 12:08:08 probably someone should still fix that :) 12:08:25 and rename the tag, I guess 12:08:40 TAG_MINOR_OGRE_METAB 12:09:57 I think I just moved the code for earlier back in the tag? Generally I always put save handling code inside and if(TAG) block even if it should have no effect on future saves. 12:10:17 03wheals02 07* 0.16-a0-1546-g58e9df2: Re-add a line about meat to Ghoul A screen. 10(4 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=58e9df257a76 12:10:21 what? 12:10:46 http://crawl.develz.org/wordpress/trunk-updates-20-october-2014#comment-1971 good comment 12:11:47 PleasingFungus: Nevermind, I was just confused. 12:11:54 aight 12:11:56 That is a good comment :D 12:12:27 so much good stuff 12:12:48 great comment 12:12:50 btw, *if* we want to preserve some Gh flavour, then one option would be: Gh can eat corpses right off the ground 12:13:09 give gh hydra devouring 12:13:10 PleasingFungus: Thanks for chaning chunks btw :D 12:13:29 My, that was a yummy yak! 12:13:52 s/chaning/changing/ 12:13:56 PleasingFungus: this goes mostly to you :) 12:14:21 !send dpeg flavour 12:14:21 Sending flavour to dpeg. 12:14:24 dpeg: imo 12:14:28 let gh eat bone marrow from skeletons 12:14:50 remove gh, problem solved 12:14:54 !remove potatolizard 12:15:12 !send unthingland Gh 12:15:13 Sending Gh to unthingland. 12:15:17 rip 12:15:19 (again) 12:15:25 PleasingFungus: with the general genial tone of ##crawl-dev, I never know if you're serious or joking. 12:15:26 ((since they're undead) 12:15:45 PleasingFungus: any idea if drop_spoiled_chunks needs to be kept? 12:15:59 ah i guess it's just used for old chunks now 12:16:00 wheals: no idea 12:16:09 what I propose could have an interesting gameplay effect if rot healing comes from "fresh" meat (== corpses) only. 12:16:14 old chunks won't appear as 'rotten', since that was never a separate item type 12:16:22 the only save-compat-ish thing is coagulated blood 12:16:25 dpeg: oh, I'm serious about the bone marrow thing, I was thinking about it earlier. It'd be a flavorful and grisly differentiator 12:16:57 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.16-a0-1545-gb37f041 (34) 12:16:59 I *do* actually like them being able to eat chunks, since it gives them a weird sort of mini-health-potion 12:17:06 PleasingFungus: i mean chunks that you had in the inventory before 12:17:07 but bone marrow could be a valuable diet supplement 12:17:11 but i guess since they all stack now... 12:17:32 wheals: I know. however, at present, there is no such thing as a "rotten chunk" 12:17:50 PleasingFungus: so you have my support! I am fine with all the sacrifices of flavour for strictness (is that a word) and interface etc. but we can always try to reinject flavour in better ways. 12:17:51 "rotten chunks" were defined as "OBJ_FOOD FOOD_CHUNK items with item.special <= ROTTING_CHUNK 12:17:52 i know; did you expect the function's name to be useful? 12:18:01 wait, what exactly does this do? 12:18:11 dpeg: mm, injected flavour 12:18:18 it's the auto_drop_chunks function 12:18:25 btw, SA is already all over the place again ... last month was regen amulets, this month's flavour is corpse stuff :) 12:18:27 -!- ElanMorin has joined ##crawl-dev 12:18:34 corpse flavour!!!! 12:18:40 <3 12:18:55 -!- SomeStupidGuy has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 12:19:16 huh, i feel like all these things used corpse_badness to check age 12:19:17 but maybe not 12:19:43 |amethyst: thanks for the StopGamerGate incident, I finally educated myself on the matter. Interesting stuff (and you're certainly on the right side of the divide). 12:20:56 I am still extremely confused why some people don't like regen amulets. It's at the very least a lateral move. 12:21:03 * Try to free an inventory slot by dropping a stack of chunks. 12:21:10 so i guess this isn't very useful 12:21:23 * reaverb wonders if he should try to add a draining cost to amulets of regen 12:21:32 wheals: isn't it? 12:21:53 well, generally you want to have a slot with chunks 12:21:58 reaverb: I honestly think it's because of the way I phrased the reasoning; people get very upset about things being 'removed' because they encouraged boring behavior 12:21:58 reaverb: I was very much surprised, too. (Also, if it turns out that regen was better on rings, then it'd be easy and quick to go back.) In situations like this, I believe the noise amplifies so much because *everyone* can chime in. 12:22:03 i guess poisonous chunks are a thing 12:22:07 and, yeah, there was momentum 12:22:39 PleasingFungus: in the future, always use this as commit message: "The devteam gives, and the devteam takes away." 12:22:43 if people didn't see it as a "removal", I don't think there would have been nearly as many people being upset 12:22:45 haha 12:23:06 PleasingFungus: absolutely. People hate the feeling of loss, even if it's a virtual loss (or even a non-loss). 12:23:20 PleasingFungus: I've been the victim of badly phrased reasoning before. 12:23:56 I'll take it as a learning experience. la vide 12:24:31 -!- Sequell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:24:39 -!- Sequell has joined ##crawl-dev 12:26:02 -!- Brannock_ has joined ##crawl-dev 12:27:48 -!- Brannock has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:29:47 hm, i guess gourmand is useless for gh now 12:32:01 wheals: it wasn't before?? 12:32:02 down with special cases 12:32:12 it made things slightly more rotten to them 12:32:14 ya 12:32:22 oh, good riddance on that one 12:32:51 !source food.cc 12:32:51 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/food.cc;hb=HEAD 12:33:12 look at line 1027 12:34:27 ? 12:34:39 fr: you.species = SP_GHOUL 12:34:43 and the next conditional 12:34:49 Yeah that's bad. 12:34:50 haha 12:34:52 niice 12:35:00 wheaaaaaalllls 12:35:05 oh oops 12:35:08 ha 12:35:10 probably an evolutionary vestiage. 12:35:18 from like two commits ago, yeah :p 12:35:24 ah. 12:35:42 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:36:00 I really want to change that hp_amt to "1 + random2avg(5 + you.experience_level, 3)" 12:36:15 !send die wheals 12:36:15 Sending wheals to die. 12:36:20 !death wheals 12:36:20 Death has come for wheals... 12:36:22 dang... 12:36:24 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 12:36:29 Dang has come for Grunt... 12:36:30 brutal!!! 12:36:42 What is it with all the name calling in commit messages recently? 12:36:46 PleasingFungus: Well since ghoul balance is being modified anyway now is the best time to do it. 12:36:46 * dpeg feels old, very old. 12:37:47 -!- Yermak has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:38:55 dpeg: wheals and grunt are razzin' each-other. I wouldn't take it too seriously :) 12:39:30 wheals: Are you going to fix the SP_GHOUL things or should I? 12:39:36 i'm doing it 12:39:49 What about the ogre fast meta thing? :D 12:40:31 * wheals dices ogre save compat like an onion!! 12:40:46 you probably will do a better job, go ahead... 12:43:05 PleasingFungus: ok then. Just as a note: the GRUU...UNTS and WHEAA..ALS can be no longer than 72 characters! 12:44:18 hahaha 12:44:38 actually, I think you'll find that in the message body, up to 80 characters are acceptable.................................. 12:44:52 dpeg: if you feel old, then why do you shy away from long commit messages ;) 12:45:30 GRU{75}NT 12:45:59 int hunger = gut - you.hunger; 12:46:01 somehow this amuses me greatly 12:47:57 same 12:48:43 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 12:48:48 -!- lobf has quit [Client Quit] 12:50:23 -!- gareppa has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:50:25 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:55:25 -!- Kalir has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:55:51 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 12:56:07 03reaverb02 07* 0.16-a0-1547-g308e0bb: Re-add some save compat code 10(13 minutes ago, 1 file, 8+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=308e0bb79c53 13:00:13 -!- Kalir has quit [Client Quit] 13:00:49 wheals: when I was young, our commit messages where short'n snappy, none of this emo nonsense of today :P 13:01:50 %git d8e6562b8929ce0 13:01:50 07Matthew_Cline02 * 0.5-a0-1225-gd8e6562: Got rid of setup_dragon(), moving it's functionality into setup_mons_cast() and mons_spells(), and added the new spells Fire Breath, Cold Breath and Draconian Breath to trigger that functionality. Also added the new spell Acid Splash to replace monstuff's _plant_spit(), and Sticky Flame Splash, which is exactly the same as Sticky Flame except for the messages it gives and when it makes noise (monsters now spit sticky flame instead of breathing it). All things that were handled as monster special abilities are still handled as such, and were just changed to manually invoke mons_cast(). 10(6 years ago, 10 files, 377+ 230-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=d8e6562b8929 13:02:42 short'n'snappy, eh? 13:02:53 well, it is all functional and informative 13:02:55 -!- Brannock_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:03:08 none of "see, Darshan, this is how it's done"! 13:05:54 that would be a good commit message 13:06:19 03wheals02 07* 0.16-a0-1548-g641954b: Clean up for more rot changes; mark gourmand as now-useless for ghouls. 10(24 minutes ago, 2 files, 15+ 62-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=641954b71d91 13:06:19 03wheals02 07* 0.16-a0-1549-gf087920: Remove the auto_drop_chunks option. 10(12 minutes ago, 8 files, 13+ 150-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=f08792013b42 13:07:02 dpeg: i removed an option, does that placate you? :P 13:07:31 wheals: yes! One down, a thousand to go! :) 13:07:35 do corpses just disappear faster now 13:07:38 without rot 13:08:04 -!- ldierk has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:08:14 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 13:09:05 i think they skeletalise when they used to rot, yes 13:09:07 I think nobody minds (or cares) about the console item colours... so I will at some point just go ahead and apply the changes. If I change crawl defaults, will that automatically end up on servers some time later? 13:09:25 dpeg: as soon as servers rebuild (since they are builtin now) 13:10:04 and sorry for not replying on CRD... take my silence as "you put it so well there's nothing left to say!" 13:10:23 also, skeletons now disappear slightly faster 13:10:29 but who cares 13:10:33 -!- SomeStupidGuy has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 13:10:57 people who want to close doors! 13:11:01 !send wheals "tastes great!" 13:11:02 Sending "tastes great!" to wheals. 13:11:41 oops 13:11:52 oops? 13:11:58 it used to be good! or delicious!, with a chance based on rottenness depending 13:12:03 s/ depending/ 13:12:05 -!- ldierk has joined ##crawl-dev 13:12:06 heh 13:12:58 well, close enough 13:13:02 wheals: no need to apologise. I have grown used to silence = silent agreement. It's not like I suggested removal of a god. 13:13:36 you better not!!!!1 13:13:51 how could anyone be so heartless 13:14:40 wheals: over the course of human history, hundreds of gods have died. (The introduction of The Portable Atheist ends with a long list of dead gods.) 13:14:51 praise ba'al imho 13:14:57 dpeg: i care about console item colours! 13:15:04 simmarine: are you sure? 13:15:12 I find this hard to believe. 13:15:18 &rc sim 13:15:20 http://dobrazupa.org/rcfiles/crawl-git/sim.rc 13:15:26 dpeg is the inventor of "qui tacet, sentire videtur" 13:15:29 simmarine: but if you have read my c-r-d email, then at least you didn't disagree enough to type a reply. 13:15:30 you probably want "simm" instead 13:15:34 &rc sim, 13:15:34 Subcommand $(=rc.helper sim,) failed: No keyword 'sim,' 13:15:35 ??crd 13:15:35 c-r-d[1/2]: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.games.roguelike.crawl.devel 13:15:36 &rc simm 13:15:38 http://dobrazupa.org/rcfiles/crawl-git/simm.rc 13:15:43 dpeg: The "monster weapon brands are annouanced" patch is here: 13:15:44 !bug 8685 13:15:44 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=8685 13:15:47 just shows you how old he really is 13:16:01 oh, huh, "more += statue.*comes into view." 13:16:02 oh, so basically what im already doing :P 13:16:04 obsolete now 13:16:11 PleasingFungus: why is that? is that a default now? 13:16:18 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:16:23 there's a default more() whenever an autoexclusion is set 13:16:33 e.g. when you come into view of a silver/orange crystal statue 13:16:34 a default force_more, rather 13:16:39 w/e. 13:16:44 reaverb: yes. PleasingFungus mentioned that something was iffy about it? Or he'd do it anyway? PF to the rescue!!! 13:16:52 wait, what 13:16:53 -!- twelwe has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:16:54 oh 13:16:59 yeah I have a partial implementation of it sitting around 13:17:12 was not at all happy with the patch on mantis 13:17:49 simmarine: ##### make me proud 13:17:51 good comment 13:18:11 comment at the very top is also good 13:18:22 yes, im a fan of ##### 13:18:23 too 13:18:51 incredible power!!!!!!! 13:19:06 well, ok, no, it's pretty credible. 13:20:00 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 13:21:01 -!- Quazifuji_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:21:29 -!- Elynae has quit [Client Quit] 13:21:33 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 13:21:58 -!- Orphic has joined ##crawl-dev 13:22:47 Is there a bug with the mapping in trunk? 13:23:06 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 13:23:17 What do you mean? 13:25:11 bad ideas: webtiles detects unacceptable levels of lag & reboots itself as needed 13:25:28 "webtiles reboots itself indefinitely" 13:25:49 rip 13:31:14 -!- Alpha_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:33:25 -!- Annabella has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 13:34:32 -!- SomeStupidGirl has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 13:36:24 PleasingFungus, reaverb: re: 8685 (branch announcement patch). Should we close? 13:36:39 !bug 8685 13:36:39 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=8685 13:37:19 I'll close it when I finish implementing my own version, I think 13:37:59 -!- MgDark has quit [Read error: Connection timed out] 13:38:27 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 13:42:24 hurrah! 13:42:59 _Branches wave dangerously above you. 13:43:19 Grunt: finally, a summation of your development model! 13:43:45 * PleasingFungus waves. 13:44:47 Having just untied one gordion knot, PleasingFungus can well wave. 13:48:45 -!- Ragdoll has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:53:02 -!- johnnyzero is now known as johnny0 13:53:41 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 13:53:54 -!- Orphic has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:54:29 -!- hurdos has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 13:56:08 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 13:57:26 Auto Travel on spaces with 2 corpses. 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9059 by xbon 13:59:23 -!- reaverb has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 14:00:30 -!- Mazed has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 14:01:24 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 14:03:32 saw someone else reporting that bug 14:03:46 I believe it predates the rot thing, thankfully 14:07:25 -!- Basil has joined ##crawl-dev 14:07:49 -!- reaverb has joined ##crawl-dev 14:11:16 !tell doy i think the orb animation is too short... i've missed it on every game i've played for real, and having looked at it in wizmode it feels super short 14:11:16 wheals: OK, I'll let doy know. 14:11:31 wheals: feel free to tweak it! 14:11:31 doy: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 14:13:14 ok, it looks easier than i was afraid :) 14:15:25 -!- TwistedSage has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:17:16 -!- Cannonbait_ has quit [Client Quit] 14:19:05 -!- Cannonbait has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:19:24 -!- Whistling_Bread has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:21:05 -!- Brannock has joined ##crawl-dev 14:22:59 -!- Kintak has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 14:23:39 -!- tigertrap has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:24:52 bah, i can't actually come up with something i can decide is better 14:25:34 what, an orb animation? 14:26:09 wheals: yes, that was my problem(: 14:26:36 Wensley: yes, when you pick up the orb! 14:26:45 does it do a little dance 14:27:03 or give off a shockwave, pushing all those pesky orb guardians back? 14:27:09 doy: the thing i liked the best was just the simplest (and what you did at first, i see from git history) a simple circle going out 14:27:17 is it only in tiles, or is it ascii too? 14:27:18 but it still didn't feel quite right 14:27:24 both! 14:27:47 maybe it should force_more on every frame of the animation, to make sure people really appreciate it 14:28:35 maybe part of the problem is it being darkgrey, so it's a bit easier to miss 14:31:25 -!- reaverb has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 14:35:25 -!- Cannonbait has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:38:00 wheals: improve the animations, if you can, they're awesome! 14:38:05 Autoexplore endlessly returns to useless items (corpses?) 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9060 by Whales 14:38:45 &rc whales2 14:38:49 http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rcfiles/crawl-git/whales2.rc 14:41:25 wheals: note that 9059 is probably related 14:41:31 yeah 14:41:49 a duplicate, probably 14:41:57 -!- Cannonbait_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:42:55 hopefully! 14:48:10 -!- Jho has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:49:27 -!- Basil has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 14:49:52 -!- Hempuli has quit [] 14:50:29 -!- Artelis has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 14:53:31 -!- Moonsilence has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 14:53:56 -!- Cannonbait__ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:54:27 -!- SomeStupidGuy has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:56:24 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 14:59:44 -!- spanner is now known as Guest13943 15:00:18 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 15:00:19 -!- rophy has quit [Client Quit] 15:03:52 -!- raikaria has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:04:02 -!- tupper_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:04:06 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 15:07:46 -!- Xenobreeder has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:09:01 -!- valtern has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:10:55 -!- Guest13943 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:12:30 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 15:12:58 -!- Krakhan has quit [Changing host] 15:13:43 -!- theTower has joined ##crawl-dev 15:13:57 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 15:17:14 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 15:18:11 -!- gareppa has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:18:28 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 15:20:32 -!- gareppa has quit [Client Quit] 15:20:41 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:24:06 -!- SwissStopwatch has joined ##crawl-dev 15:24:34 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 15:24:54 okay, time for the worst project 15:26:53 oh, I forgot about the note here that says "make manticore barbs not always refer to manticores and then use barbs as an earth miscast" 15:27:06 clearly dis is not enough yet 15:28:31 who will stand the test of barbs 15:28:38 heh, barbs would be an awesome hell effect 15:29:39 -!- Ragdoll has joined ##crawl-dev 15:30:01 wheals, who will stand the test of petrify? 15:30:29 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:30:57 "We do not forgive those who trespass against us!" 15:31:04 2 catoblepae come into view. 15:31:25 that sounds pretty unforgiving to me 15:33:57 -!- gareppa has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:35:39 good plural 15:36:24 PleasingFungus: i am making good use of buffed hellfire in this game! 15:36:49 %git :/ellfir 15:36:49 07wheals02 * 0.16-a0-1317-g9680db7: Don't do 1.2x damage to rHellfire- monsters on hit. 10(6 days ago, 1 file, 3+ 21-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=9680db7e10da 15:36:49 thank so very much for not having my hellions do 5d7 15:36:53 o 15:36:55 haha 15:37:00 -!- Zernach has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 15:37:07 I was trying to remember if I'd actually buffed the crossbow 15:37:11 like I was thinking of 15:39:14 autoexplore sticks on double corpses 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9061 by Grisamentum 15:39:28 rip 15:39:34 !lm grisamentum x=god 15:39:35 2203. [2014-10-21 20:29:41] [god=] grisamentum the Chucker (L1 OgAM) began the quest for the Orb on turn 0. (D:1) 15:39:44 !lm whales2 x=god 15:39:45 3297. [2014-10-21 20:01:48] [god=Sif Muna] whales2 the Sorcerer (L18 DEFE of Sif Muna) reached level 5 of the Snake Pit on turn 73704. (Snake:5) 15:39:46 !rip wheals 15:39:48 wheals the Convoker (L15 DESu), worshipper of Sif Muna, slain by Snorg on Orc:3, with 53870 points after 37631 turns and 1:36:25. 15:39:54 ouch! 15:39:58 %git :/preposter 15:39:58 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.16-a0-1060-g27e016a: Halve VS AM bite damage 10(2 weeks ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=27e016aacd24 15:39:59 good death 15:40:02 hm 15:40:26 oh, i thought Grunt called the hp special case preposterous 15:40:28 guess not 15:47:38 -!- dwest has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:49:51 -!- hurdos has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 15:54:29 Replace cacodemon's bolt of energy with corrosive bolt 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9062 by Tedronai 15:55:13 <|amethyst> I'm not sure I follow "Perhaps it will 15:55:14 <|amethyst> make them a little bit scarier for players who have rMut" 15:55:24 <|amethyst> does Energy Bolt check rMut? 15:55:41 <|amethyst> oh, I guess it's just saying corrosive bolt is scarier than energy bolt 15:55:44 no but you usually do not notice energy bolt 15:56:10 so your main concern when meeting them is malmutate 15:56:11 doesn't it dig, in addition to their dig spell? 15:56:19 -!- BigBluFrog has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:56:21 not that that matters too much 15:56:27 idk, I've been spooked by energy bolt from early cacos 15:56:37 cacodemon (082) | Spd: 10 | HD: 13 | HP: 83-114 | AC/EV: 11/10 | Dam: 22, 22 | 05demonic, 10doors, see invisible, lev, regen | Res: 06magic(160), 10elec, 03poison, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++, 11silver | XP: 1625 | Sp: b.energy (3d20), slow, confuse, malmutate, dig | Sz: Large | Int: high. 15:56:37 %??cacodemon 15:56:48 cacodemon (082) | Spd: 10 | HD: 13 | HP: 83-114 | AC/EV: 11/10 | Dam: 22, 22 | 05demonic, 10doors, see invisible, lev, regen | Res: 06magic(160), 10elec, 03poison, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 1625 | Sp: b.corrosive (3d18) | Sz: Large | Int: high. 15:56:48 %??cacodemon spells:corrosive_bolt 15:56:53 <|amethyst> wheals: having a shot miss you and explode the wall behind you is so flavourful, though 15:56:53 slightly less damage 15:57:00 |amethyst: it is!!! 15:57:30 think about it, I've played around a bit with them 15:57:36 I like them better with corr 15:57:37 what is "the general theme of cacodemons" 15:57:44 it explodes the wall behind you if it hits too :P 15:57:52 how does this buff/nerf makhleb, too 15:57:53 <|amethyst> oh, right, "bolt" 15:57:54 doy: dig + hexes, i guess? 15:58:07 bolt of energy fits the dig theme better, i think? 15:58:09 giving them Energy Shot would be possible 15:59:34 fr make iron shot dig a wall if it misses 15:59:34 I don't feel strongly about this one way or another 15:59:50 damage wise it makes not much difference 16:00:07 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:01:34 it is worth noting a seperate acid-themed 2 is already planned 16:02:28 oh, well then it's probably better to keep that off the cacos 16:03:55 i wonder about dropping cacos' hexes 16:04:27 but mnoleg integrationnnnnnn 16:05:05 when I tested that change I had the impression that the hexes prevent them from being actually dangerous 16:05:22 we can alter spell frequencies now! 16:05:24 because they just waste turns when you have decent mr 16:06:01 clearly the solution is to completely rework mr from the ground up. 16:06:17 I am undecided about whether i am serious. 16:06:27 I would support this completely 16:06:31 yeah, their melee is not too scary 16:06:31 -!- Crehl has quit [Quit: Killed by a kitten] 16:06:36 well the fear of para leads to players stacking mr 16:07:00 so just dropping the spells would probably not make them too much scarier 16:07:23 I don't mind stacking mr as much as it's binary as well as the species modifier outright negating things eventually 16:07:52 ancient liches have the strongest hex in the game and an xl 27 spriggan is immune to it 16:08:10 give oofs para 16:08:33 orb of fire (05*) | Spd: 15 | HD: 30 | HP: 150 | AC/EV: 20/20 | 11non-living, see invisible, lev | Res: 13magic(immune), 05hellfire, 04fire+++, 02cold, 11elec+++, 09poison+++, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm, 04napalm | Vul: 11silver | XP: 8519 | Sp: b.fire (3d40), fireball (3d43), malmutate | Sz: little | Int: normal. 16:08:33 %??orb of fire 16:08:35 ancient lich (16L) | Spd: 10 | HD: 27 | HP: 91-130 | AC/EV: 20/10 | Dam: 2013(drain) | 07undead, 10doors, evil, spellcaster, see invisible | Res: 13magic(immune), 05fire, 02cold++, 10elec, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 7462 | Sp: b.cold (3d37), paralyse, sum.greater demon, animate dead, iron shot (3d44), 04esc: teleport self / b.corrosive (3d28), slow, invisibility, throw icicle (3d37), crystal spear (3d48) / b.fire (3d37), confuse, haste, b.draining (3d33), sum.greater demon, banishment / mystic blast (3d30), b.cold (3d37), invisibility, animate dead, o.destruction (9d20) | Sz: Medium | Int: high. 16:08:35 %??ancient lich 16:08:42 three hd 16:08:56 ??spell power 16:08:56 spell power[1/5]: (Spellcasting/2 + 2*avg school skill) * INT/10 * (1.5 ^ enhancer count). Now halve the part over 50, halve the part over 100, halve the part over 150, and plain cap at 200. Negative enhancers use 0.5, not 0.66. 16:09:02 bleh 16:09:44 <|amethyst> power is 12 * HD 16:09:58 <|amethyst> (except when it's not I guess) 16:10:07 aug! 16:10:27 <|amethyst> though I'm unclear on what ench_power is 16:10:33 <|amethyst> because that's just 4 * HD 16:10:44 the power of the ench the beam creates? 16:10:53 <|amethyst> oh, that makes sense 16:10:58 <|amethyst> is that called "power"? 16:11:43 <|amethyst> oh, and some other things use ench_power? 16:11:50 <|amethyst> _explosive_bolt_explode ??? 16:12:13 mm, explosive bolt 16:12:29 yeah it looks kind of like a catchall field 16:12:31 oh right, I should 16:12:33 <|amethyst> MR checks are based on ench_power it seems 16:12:43 <|amethyst> !source bolt::affect_player_enchantment 16:12:44 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/beam.cc;hb=HEAD#l3393 16:12:57 ??ephemeral infusion 16:12:57 ephemeral infusion[1/1]: An allies-and-self support spell, from {blood saint}s. Think of reversed flaying: it gives a temporary hd-based health boost to the caster and allies in LOS, which will revert in some turns non-lethally. 16:13:03 oh 16:13:24 <|amethyst> so what is 'power' used for on enchantments? 16:13:54 there is no bolt::power 16:14:30 -!- FatShack is now known as FtShkAway 16:15:14 <|amethyst> oh, that's handled entirely in mons_spell_beam, I see 16:15:23 !learn add ephemeral_infusion Gives (hd + ( 2d(2 * HD) - 2) / 2) * 2 health, only cast if any nearby allies are at 66% health or if the caster is at 33% health. In 0.15-, also requires that the caster is injured and doesn't have the enchantment on them already (not that the spell stacks anyway). 16:15:23 ephemeral infusion[2/2]: Gives (hd + ( 2d(2 * HD) - 2) / 2) * 2 health, only cast if any nearby allies are at 66% health or if the caster is at 33% health. In 0.15-, also requires that the caster is injured and doesn't have the enchantment on them already (not that the spell stacks anyway). 16:16:03 <|amethyst> you'd think e.g. beam.ench_power = mons->spell_hd(real_spell) * 6; could use beam.ench_power = power/2; 16:17:10 beware the int division cost? 16:18:10 -!- Ququman has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 16:18:14 * geekosaur amused that more or less the same comment in two channels at the same time 16:21:06 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 16:24:52 -!- ElanMorin has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 16:26:32 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 16:30:04 random word text turns green on ground 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9063 by Grisamentum 16:33:54 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:39:28 -!- WelcomeOblivion_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:41:07 so I'm getting tangled up in this miscasts code. 16:41:28 there is a copy of potion effects that do the effects directly but still call them potions even though no potions are involved. 16:44:57 -!- Siegurt has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 16:48:16 -!- Stygian has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:49:57 oh, whoops, it makes you drink a potion if you're a player but not if you're a monster. of course. 16:50:23 -!- miek_mobile has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:51:20 -!- miek_mobile has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:51:37 have you two been introduced? crawl code, this is theTower. theTower, meet crawl code 16:51:50 -!- bcode is now known as bcde 16:54:02 I thought I've seen worse 17:00:03 -!- LexAckson has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 17:05:39 03|amethyst02 07* 0.16-a0-1550-g2008e14: Don't mark stash corpses new just because of time (#9059, #9060) 10(8 minutes ago, 1 file, 8+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=2008e14c3300 17:07:19 oops. 17:07:36 <|amethyst> that might not be necessary for chunks 17:07:44 no it is 17:07:49 -!- foophykins has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:07:53 -!- Whistling_Beard has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 17:08:00 <|amethyst> hm 17:08:12 <|amethyst> I was thinking, since you can pick those up, and you won't greedy-explore to them if you can't 17:08:29 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:08:47 <|amethyst> so I guess I should say, the 9059 bug probably doesn't happen with chunks 17:09:11 oh. what if your inventory is full 17:09:25 <|amethyst> oh 17:09:28 <|amethyst> good point :) 17:09:34 -!- miek_mobile has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:10:07 I was thrown off by stash items not being real items 17:10:13 with the earlier commit that you reverted 17:10:46 <|amethyst> I didn't revert the whole thing! 17:10:51 <|amethyst> just that one chunk 17:11:02 w/e 17:11:17 <|amethyst> err, s/chunk/hunk/ I guess 17:11:20 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 17:11:36 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 17:12:30 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 17:13:46 -!- Zooty has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:15:59 -!- Jho has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:16:21 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 17:16:57 mantis broken? 17:18:21 looks up to me? 17:19:42 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 17:20:35 probably the ping from two nights ago? 17:21:16 yes, wheals - what was the problem? 17:21:39 no idea, theTower was having some trouble but i think he handled it 17:22:41 -!- NotKintak has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 17:23:24 the problem was Fatal error: Allowed memory size of 134217728 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 71 bytes) in /var/www/crawl.develz.org/htdocs/mantis/core/bug_api.php on line 110 from trying to make it list 8k issues 17:23:57 and only when I was logged out since I did it when I was logged out, it was fine when I logged in and made it only list 51 issues 17:24:13 (when logged out too) 17:24:47 * Grunt roars! You hear a roar! 17:24:55 !dragoncall Grunt 17:25:00 !dragonscall Grunt 17:25:01 wheals calls out to the draconic realm, and the dragon horde roars back! The golden dragon tramples Grunt!!! x3 17:25:09 !tornado wheals 17:25:09 Grunt mumbles some strange words. A great vortex of air appears and lifts Grunt up! wheals is engulfed in raging winds. 17:25:22 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 17:25:48 -!- Basil has joined ##crawl-dev 17:26:01 !singularity Basil 17:26:01 Grunt mumbles some strange words. The singularity violently warps Basil! 17:26:58 -!- mamgar has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 17:27:44 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:30:28 ??wheals[2 17:30:28 wheals[2/3]: todo: fix ghost speed, leeches, give xtahua red drac breath, fix vamp prompt (rchandra), improve ghost crabs, plague shamblers??? 17:30:35 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 17:30:38 i guess red drac breath is easy now 17:30:46 very! 17:30:52 Grunt: there's likely some bitrot since I haven't touched it in a while 17:30:53 imo give him SPELL_FLAMING_CLOUD instead 17:31:06 Basil: rebase it before you do anything else then :) 17:31:06 but mostly I'm wondering what I should fool with when I do update it 17:31:06 -!- AndChat|500 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:31:36 well, theTower, i guess everything correct then :) 17:31:38 -!- AndChat|500 has quit [Client Quit] 17:31:42 Pass it along once you have it rebased so we can collectively bikeshed the particulars. 17:32:03 Especially PleasingFungus, so we don't end up with an abomination like Irradiate or Hydra Form. 17:32:05 <_< 17:32:15 hmm abomination 17:33:01 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 17:33:43 hearMsg = "You hear the sound of one hand!"; 17:33:43 -!- Sharkman1231 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:33:44 Abomination Form 17:33:49 mm 17:33:53 resurrected form 17:33:55 (tmons form??????) 17:34:00 gonna implement corpse armour any day now. 17:34:06 beware..... 17:34:10 lost soul form :p 17:34:17 oh I am reminded of one of my other longstanding ideas 17:34:17 ha! 17:34:35 let XXX summon thrashing horrors alongside large abominations and tentacled starspawn alongside tentacled monstrosities 17:34:48 (start calling it XXXX because it can summon four things???) 17:34:48 alongside starcursed masses 17:34:55 !send Grunt starcursed efb 17:34:55 Sending starcursed efb to Grunt. 17:34:57 Basil: as a ghoul expert, do you have strong opinions about the 75% chance for chunk-eating to heal rot 17:35:11 (this is obviously a Mnoleg buff!!!) 17:35:13 vs making it a 100% chance and maybe raising rot rate slightly 17:35:20 I don't really care 17:35:39 I am shocked 17:35:44 thought I'd ask :) 17:35:52 !chainlightning PleasingFungus 17:35:56 now you're really shocked!!! 17:35:57 !learn add Basil Honorary ghoul of the devteam. 17:35:57 Basil[15/15]: Honorary ghoul of the devteam. 17:36:00 dang..... 17:36:10 dpeg: what does that make the rest of us?? 17:36:19 ordinary undead! 17:36:28 how do i turn a mindex into a monster* again? &menv[idx]? 17:36:31 Undeath has come for the devteam... 17:36:35 wheals: correct 17:37:07 don't forget to check if it's a valid mindex! 17:37:16 trampling summons push away and don't work with constricting summons, starspawn tentacles waste space 17:37:33 fr: mids 17:37:37 masses might be comedically strong, possibly 17:37:46 make them hostile 17:37:52 "interesting decisions" 17:38:34 bolt::beam_source only has 99 occurences, should be easy to convert it!!! 17:38:40 summon other abyssal creatures 17:38:45 (summon lurking horror anyone????) 17:38:50 summon maelstrom 17:38:56 summon wretched star 17:39:24 (that is a really wretched idea) 17:39:30 menagerie was going to have raiju but they didn't really fit in the goal of a ranged summon 17:40:00 Basil: maelstroms shouldn't exist outside Abyss; they chew up the maps too much 17:40:01 wretched stars seem like they might actually be really strong 17:40:08 as summons 17:40:42 PleasingFungus: what happens with Wretched Pulse? Does it affect everything in LOS regardless of alignment or only things hostile to the star? 17:40:57 it affects other monsters in sight 17:41:05 is there a mid equivalent of NON_MONSTER? 17:41:06 -!- siepu has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:41:20 Grunt: I honestly do not remember 17:41:23 !source mon-cast.cc 17:41:24 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/mon-cast.cc;hb=HEAD 17:41:32 -!- Ragdoll has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:42:01 -!- SomeStupidGuy has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 17:42:26 yeah looks like all other monsters 17:42:36 (in LOS of the wretched star0 17:50:51 -!- Big_guy has quit [] 17:50:52 wheals: I think it's the player's "mid", which is also 0? maybe 17:51:35 well, presumably there should be a way to tell a difference between the two 17:51:54 not that i'm going to change beam_source, since it can also have funny values apparently, like -god_type 17:52:40 haha yeah I remember that 17:53:34 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 17:53:40 why do nagas have an innate shield bonus but negative shield aptitude? 17:55:44 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 17:56:02 ...and that's how we're going to ruin XXX 17:56:04 gammafunk: thoughts? 17:56:09 no 17:56:09 gammafunk: You have 5 messages. Use !messages to read them. 17:56:30 jesus, 5 messages 17:56:30 checkers: they have an innate shield bonus because they have large bodies, and accordingly verismillitude dictates they be better at shields. 17:56:39 however, they're bad at shields because, uh, I guess they have enough defensive stuff already? 17:56:44 checkers: any luck with the aus server proxy? 17:56:48 and also they get less sh from shields since they have larger bodies, iirc. 17:56:50 problem thingy 17:56:51 in conclusion, crawl. 17:57:31 reaverb said (5h 49m 16s ago): Ha, could be more descriptive but not worth making a fuss over. <_< >_> 17:57:36 regarding wheals' commit 17:57:38 -!- ZRN has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:57:51 Grunt: please don't change a player spell solely based on what it would do for mnoleg :p 17:58:01 players cast sht???? 17:58:02 rip...... 17:58:30 i used to use XXX all the time back in like 0.2 or something 17:58:37 doy: perma-XXX!!! 17:58:40 haha, yeah 17:58:53 gammafunk: it's working except for automatic dcss rebuilds, and I don't have any free time this week 17:58:59 I used it exclusively as the highlevel summon in 0.12, and with dcall for 0.16 17:59:07 !lg . won char=gesu 17:59:07 1. doy the Hellbinder (L24 GESu of Sif Muna), escaped with the Orb and 4 runes on 2008-01-07 08:02:46, with 921554 points after 146650 turns and 1d+19:06:08. 17:59:09 &dump 17:59:09 http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/morgue/wheals/wheals.txt 17:59:14 !lg . won char=gesu x=cv 17:59:15 1. [cv=0.3] doy the Hellbinder (L24 GESu of Sif Muna), escaped with the Orb and 4 runes on 2008-01-07 08:02:46, with 921554 points after 146650 turns and 1d+19:06:08. 17:59:24 gammafunk: also, I apparently have to wait until webtiles-changes is merged because the conflict from adding the mainline -dir patch is horrible :P 17:59:26 gammafunk: i'm not speedrunning...... 17:59:29 sadly 17:59:38 !lm wheals 17:59:39 14174. [2014-10-21 21:06:34] wheals the Convoker (L15 DESu of Sif Muna) left the Shoals on turn 40983. (Shoals:1) 17:59:47 "pathetic" 17:59:50 well just don't die! 17:59:58 gammafunk: anyway, once that patch lands I expect to need a week plus whatever time to figure out if it can become Official and share userdata etc 17:59:59 !lg ge 18:00:00 No games for ge. 18:00:03 !lg * ge 18:00:05 6046. casmith789 the Ducker (L2 GEMo), slain by a goblin on D:1 on 2010-03-07 21:57:06, with 72 points after 1183 turns and 0:03:07. 18:00:17 ignominious. 18:00:21 checkers: but your dir patch was merged into webtiles-changes 18:00:25 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 36.0a1/20141020030200]] 18:00:27 -!- rossi has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.0.1] 18:00:27 or a version o fit 18:01:07 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 18:01:16 %git webtiles-changes -2 18:01:16 Could not find commit webtiles-changes -2 (git returned 128) 18:01:22 %git webtiles-changes~2 18:01:23 07edlothiol02 * 0.15-a0-2345-g548f6f2: Don't use ids, and don't crash the server if devteam_file is not set. 10(4 days ago, 4 files, 14+ 12-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=548f6f2a24bb 18:01:26 %git webtiles-changes~3 18:01:26 07gammafunk02 {edlothiol} * 0.15-a0-2344-g2df5926: Player title colors and descriptions for WebTiles lobby and chat 10(5 days ago, 10 files, 302+ 9-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=2df5926d53a2 18:01:35 %git webtiles-changes~4 18:01:35 07edlothiol02 * 0.15-a0-2343-g61e331d: Webtiles: Use TOML instead of JSON for config. 10(5 weeks ago, 8 files, 648+ 195-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=61e331d53eaa 18:01:37 -!- slitherrr has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 18:01:39 oh, huh 18:02:05 -!- slitherrr has joined ##crawl-dev 18:02:07 checkers: I know I saw a version of your patch getting merged 18:02:10 %git :/-dir 18:02:11 07Alex Jurkiewicz02 {edlothiol} * 0.15-a0-2346-gb5d97e3: webtiles-changes: Add support for -dir 10(5 days ago, 2 files, 5+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=b5d97e3d9af5 18:02:44 also we need to add checkers to mailmap I guess 18:03:03 gammafunk: yeah, only the version to webtiles-changes. the change is not in trunk 18:03:07 s/trunk/master 18:03:35 checkers: well as I said, the plan is to merge webtiles-changes soon; but you can certainly locally apply your patch to trunk without problems? 18:03:43 in terms of setting up your server 18:04:03 sure, but I'm trying to set up a reusable process with Docker here. I don't want to add in a hardcoded patch :P 18:04:22 did someone say that -dir in trunk is actually problematic? 18:04:44 yes, edlothiol said there would be annoying merge conflicts 18:04:51 oh 18:04:59 well he means when merging webtiles-changes 18:05:11 but I rather doubt that would be very onerous 18:05:16 the patches differ in the commented out defaults they add to different config files 18:05:47 anyway, I'm happy to wait to do it right 18:05:56 well right, but the merge of webtiles-changes will just take care of that; seems easy enough 18:06:05 ok, if you don't care either way 18:06:13 A branch waves dangerously above gammafunk's head. 18:06:16 let's ask the horrible Crawl IT Department what it thinks 18:06:32 gammafunk casts Summon Horrible Crawl IT Department. 18:06:55 |amethyst: what do you think about merging checker's -dir patch into trunk; he says it'll help him roll out his aus server? 18:07:18 Grunt's intelligence feels drained. 18:07:46 I'll be spending some more time on the server next week, hopefully that's when I can get the last bits squared away 18:07:55 on that note, do people think making stat drain maybe more severe but corrosion-like duration would be a good idea? 18:08:05 -!- Akitten_Homura has joined ##crawl-dev 18:08:09 and then we could remove !restorab 18:08:34 I guess there would be issues with statdeath 18:08:36 that would annoy people who play low-int trolls and similar 18:08:41 (me) 18:09:03 we could just make stats not go below 0 18:09:04 er, 1 18:09:08 yes 18:09:37 That would definitely be more interesting 18:09:47 We'd need to remove deteriorating body, but that's a huge plus IMO 18:10:09 that would make int truly useless for certain combos. which is better than stat death's "you're probably dead but have fun agonising over your next three moves" but doesn't seem ideal 18:10:31 having int be useful as "you don't die to stat death" was never very interesting or good IMO 18:10:49 -!- bullock has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:10:53 stat reform is a general notion we have, and some additional effects for int that would be relevant to maybe evocations 18:10:56 or something could happen 18:11:00 kind of independent of this 18:11:09 that makes sense then 18:11:24 but I'm wondering if there are any major downsides (like what checkers pointed out about stat death, which is fixable) 18:11:32 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:12:23 (this is when minmay comes in with some infuriating example) 18:13:14 wheals: also apparently you're off the hook: Ha, could be more descriptive but not worth making a fuss over. <_< >_> 18:13:14 temporary drain idea: the lower your stat, the higher probability stat drain fails. 100% failure at 1 18:13:34 around as descriptive as the old A screen 18:13:37 ! 18:13:37 I really don't think int needs to be better. It's already very good. Playing a character that ignores it is already its own cost -- the exception is berserkers, but they're an exception to a lot of things. 18:14:09 forgot to include the but I guess that's obvious 18:14:20 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 18:14:20 what is the value of actor::type if it is a player? 18:14:38 MONS_PLAYER 18:14:39 iirc 18:14:46 mm 18:15:27 Grunt: I think your nemesis' idea of just giving mnoleg four branded attacks and ditching the tentacles sounds pretty good, what do you think? 18:15:36 Mnoleg (09&) | Spd: 13 | HD: 17 | HP: 350 | AC/EV: 10/25 | Dam: 3509(mutation), 2306(blink self) | 05demonic, 10doors, fighter, see invisible | Res: 13magic(immune), 05fire, 10elec++, 03poison, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++, 11silver | XP: 10304 | Sp: sum.eyeballs, spawn tentacles, sum.horrible things | Sz: Large | Int: high. 18:15:36 %??mnoleg 18:15:40 v0v 18:15:46 and furthermore 18:15:46 18:15:50 af_mutate, af_klown, af_blink, af....crap 18:15:54 what was it 18:15:55 vuln 18:15:57 af_crap sounds unpleasant 18:15:58 ah yeah 18:16:06 and was that the only change? 18:16:10 or changes 18:16:17 give back malign gateway I guess 18:16:34 -!- NilsBloodaxe has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:16:37 polymorph 18:16:59 well his vault has a billion nexoqs and he can summon shining eyes and he has af_mutate 18:17:18 *neqoxs 18:17:21 what's wrong with the tentacles? 18:17:27 frail -2 is not pig form 18:17:29 doy: they work poorly with his summons 18:17:32 ah 18:17:45 well so you want polymorph, not malmutate 18:17:53 yes 18:17:57 maybe the tentacles should get trample-on-move 18:18:01 and be able to shove summons around that way 18:18:02 I think that's probably a bad idea because it's just "instakill" stuff; like giving him af_chaos 18:18:19 I mean the eldritch tentacle from malign is stationary at least 18:18:32 all the forms can use consumables, now, right? 18:18:40 hrm 18:18:46 wisp? 18:18:46 how do they work with his blinking? 18:18:57 can't remember what you can do in wisp 18:19:00 ??whisp_form 18:19:01 whisp form ~ wisp form[1/1]: Form with permaflight, blinkitis, sometimes-confused movement, no spellcasting, no item usage (can use scrolls in 0.15). Also +10 AC, rF++ rC++ rN+ rPois rElec rRot rCorr Cons. 18:19:09 yeah no item usage on that one 18:19:11 scrolls! 18:19:19 unless I'm mis-reading that 18:20:07 !learn e wisp_form s/5/5+ 18:20:07 wisp form[1/1]: Form with permaflight, blinkitis, sometimes-confused movement, no spellcasting, no item usage (can use scrolls in 0.15+). Also +10 AC, rF++ rC++ rN+ rPois rElec rRot rCorr Cons. 18:20:28 ??bat_form 18:20:29 bat form[1/2]: An ability you get as a vampire at xl3. Grants minimum movement delay and gives a bonus to EV and Dex when unencumbered but cripples your Str. No spellcasting or doors. 18:20:38 ??bat_form[2 18:20:39 bat form[2/2]: Eronarn the Necromancer (L27 DSNe), worshipper of Sif Muna, collapsed under their own weight caused by gaining the bat transformation on Lair:2 on 2008-08-27, with 538692 points after 150318 turns and 17:21:18. 18:20:51 I guess those can use scrolls? 18:21:28 it just seems kind of silly; the player can just teleport...and start the fight all over 18:21:39 fair enough 18:21:40 is theTower truly that cruel 18:22:50 -!- edlothiol has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 18:23:08 calamity and upheaval are not meant to be indirect matters 18:23:22 -!- alefury has joined ##crawl-dev 18:23:43 doy: yeah the tentacle heads can shove, but the problem is that they can only really do so when moving in such away that doesn't create a new segment, since the latter is effectively a new monster that needs a tile 18:23:50 -!- Elynae has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:24:04 gammafunk: right, no, i meant shove forward, not swap 18:24:15 so like trampling in terms of movement 18:24:32 doy: well when mnoleg casts xxx, he makes a lot of them 18:24:34 like 6 or so 18:24:39 Autoexplore stops over corpses sometimes 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9064 by RBrandon 18:24:46 so it's very likely that the x has no place to go 18:24:57 well, just do it recursively then 18:24:59 (: 18:25:25 yeah it's a bunch of work, all so we can have tentacles when we could just give him the attacks 18:25:31 i feel like that could be a cool effect though 18:25:51 the attacks are much less interesting 18:25:55 I would be cool thematically, but gameplay-wise the only thing it really achieves is giving mnoleg more vuln. to aoe 18:26:47 marginally he'll be able to attack with tentacles when he is not in melee range of the player occassionally, but he tries real hard to be in melee range already 18:27:10 well, that could also be adjusted 18:27:22 krakens have similar logic 18:27:28 but shrug 18:28:03 doy: well if you'd like to work on an implementation, but to me it seems like there'd be only a thematic imporvement for the most part 18:28:04 i just like it when things play differently in general 18:28:12 i am all about the thematic improvements 18:28:15 (: 18:28:27 well I won't stop you from making mnoleg tentacles 2.0! 18:28:36 that's the release with the Klown UI btw 18:28:46 the Klown command-line was silly 18:28:58 heh 18:29:02 we Klowned around with it too much 18:29:21 fr: Chaos Summon, so that Mnoleg can summon Klowns, wretched stars, ... 18:29:33 apocalypse crabs 18:29:35 I'll push the "revert tentacle changes for now" but it's easy to change it if you do decide to rework his tentacles 18:29:38 mmmmmmmmm 18:29:46 Andor Drakon appears! You don't feel so good about this... 18:29:48 since it's just a spell and some cases to add 18:29:59 wheals: You degenerate into a writhing mass of primal chaos. You die... 18:30:06 summoning wretched stars would be a huge upgrade to Mnoleg imo 18:30:14 Good! He needs it. <3 18:30:17 well just place some in his vault 18:30:26 hm 18:30:26 yeah 18:30:35 writhing mass of primal chaos (083) | Spd: 10 | HD: 6 | HP: 22-44 | AC/EV: 7/12 | Dam: 2109(chaos) | 05demonic, 10doors, see invisible | Res: 06magic(60), 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++, 11silver | XP: 181 | Sp: spawn tentacles | Sz: Big | Int: animal. 18:30:35 %??chaos spawn name:writhing_mass_of_primal_chaos spells:spawn_tentacles 18:30:42 sadly the majority of my ideas are for a lot of extended things yet not mnoleg 18:30:51 (oh yes Chaos Summon needs chaos spawn obv) 18:31:20 Grunt: remember what you said about DO and popcorn summons! 18:31:28 death cob (08%) | Spd: 25 | HD: 10 | HP: 53-77 | AC/EV: 10/15 | Dam: 20 | 07undead, 10doors, evil | Res: 06magic(40), 02cold, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 1012 | Sz: tiny | Int: normal. 18:31:28 %??death_cob 18:31:33 rip. 18:31:36 Death cOb 18:31:39 -!- scummos__ has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 18:32:02 speaking of things that could use a buff 18:32:17 make death cobs explode like ufetubi don't 18:32:29 death popcorn 18:32:30 haha 18:32:30 ! 18:32:35 "the ships hung in the sky like bricks don't" 18:37:03 -!- wheals has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:38:33 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:38:47 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 18:46:21 -!- wheals has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:47:05 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 18:47:18 so when are shadow dragons getting umbras 18:47:33 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 18:47:52 03wheals02 07* 0.16-a0-1551-g4e67e28: Remove an unused #define, use another. 10(2 hours ago, 3 files, 5+ 7-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=4e67e282fbd3 18:47:52 03wheals02 07* 0.16-a0-1552-g66612e5: Make two fields in spell_desc SPLFLAG_s instead. 10(80 minutes ago, 5 files, 162+ 784-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=66612e53cf53 18:47:52 03wheals02 07* 0.16-a0-1553-gdf98671: Don't persist unnecessary information in struct bolt. 10(38 minutes ago, 6 files, 22+ 19-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=df98671ff849 18:47:52 03wheals02 07* 0.16-a0-1554-g5be93e9: Give Xtahua red draconian breath. 10(13 minutes ago, 2 files, 24+ 28-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=5be93e9946df 18:48:17 wheals, re#defining crawl 18:48:37 * wheals breathes flames at Grunt. Grunt is engulfed in the roaring flames. 18:48:56 * Grunt completely resists. 18:48:59 s/flames/a blast of flame/ 18:49:15 Grunt: what are you, some kind of genie? 18:49:28 -!- nrook has joined ##crawl-dev 18:49:30 I'm some kind of fiendish monstrosity, obviously. 18:55:19 The s stands for djinni 18:55:56 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 18:56:08 what is a djinni 18:56:26 I protest the it description! 18:56:38 !send gammafunk something 18:56:38 Sending something to gammafunk. 18:59:40 -!- Siegurt has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 19:00:00 a miserable pile of secrets 19:00:41 Ashenzari warns you, "gammafunk is something" 19:00:50 * Grunt warns you: It is. 19:01:17 omg.....the s stands for something!!!! 19:02:06 %git :/Replace it with 19:02:06 07bh02 * 0.15-a0-1447-g7c1a559: Convert crosstraining into an enhancer bonus 10(4 months ago, 6 files, 28+ 87-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=7c1a5597fd58 19:02:09 %git :/Replace it with some 19:02:10 07kilobyte02 * 0.14-a0-1833-g8574891: Replace it with something. 10(10 months ago, 7 files, 25+ 53-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=85748914e490 19:02:17 oh, not grunt 19:02:22 ? 19:02:29 s/oh,/oh no,/ 19:02:43 any web people around? seen this js error before which chauses no display of the game map (stat/minimap/etc displays fine): Error while drawing cell {"fg":[526555,0],"bg":[7,0],"doll":[[2439,32],[2447,32],[2423,32],[2509,32],[2473,32],[2629,32],[2691,32],[3052,32],[2819,32]],"ov":[2018],"trans":false,"cloud":[0,0],"flv":{"f":0,"s":0}} at 0/0: TypeError: Cannot read property 'DNGN_FIRST_TRANSPARENT' of undefined 19:02:55 cell_renderer.js:422 19:03:52 that's not good 19:05:36 checkers: is this webtiles-changes or trunk? 19:05:37 trunk 19:05:37 did you just build webtiles? 19:05:41 hm, might be the stupid work proxy I'm behind 19:06:08 somebody should merge webtiles-changes imo 19:06:11 hrm, if it didn't let you have some of the js files 19:06:14 I know I'm saying controversial things here 19:06:25 A branch reaches out and smacks nrook! 19:06:43 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 19:06:54 can you test? http://crawl.project357.com:8080/ 19:06:57 I haven't tried to merge it yet to see what conflicts there might be, but edlothiol might already be aware 19:07:36 but it's not just about merging it; people have to upgrade their servers 19:07:54 or rather they need to redo their installs and update configs 19:08:00 I know, it's pretty nontrivial 19:08:01 but not in that order 19:08:23 but it's also a pretty heavy discouragement on outside contributors to make changes to webtiles, since everything is still so much in limbo 19:08:53 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:08:58 hrm? I made some commits to webtiles-changes, and anyone is welcome to submit requests of course 19:09:05 -!- Whistling_Bread has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 19:09:09 we don't get a lot of outside webtiles contributors 19:09:23 *submit patches 19:09:35 yes---but who would want to submit a patch that won't take effect on trunk next week, and indeed may never be merged? 19:11:06 -!- Tungsten has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:12:22 -!- tarantoga has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Po-ta-to, boil em, mash em, stick em in a stew.] 19:12:53 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 19:13:46 crazy people 19:15:27 I mean of course Crawl is an open source project, everybody is spending their free time, and nobody is obligated to shepherd anything if they don't think it'd be fun 19:16:11 but I personally wouldn't touch webtiles until the situation is resolved 19:17:22 -!- tupper has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:18:32 -!- alefury has quit [] 19:19:13 -!- slitherrr has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 19:20:33 -!- Whistling_Beard has quit [*.net *.split] 19:20:33 -!- gammafunk has quit [*.net *.split] 19:20:34 -!- eki has quit [*.net *.split] 19:20:34 -!- Moredread has quit [*.net *.split] 19:20:34 -!- Sizzell has quit [*.net *.split] 19:20:34 -!- greensnark has quit [*.net *.split] 19:20:34 -!- MakMorn has quit [*.net *.split] 19:20:35 -!- lessens has quit [*.net *.split] 19:20:36 -!- grit has quit [*.net *.split] 19:20:36 -!- _miek has quit [*.net *.split] 19:20:36 -!- Unmovable has quit [*.net *.split] 19:20:36 -!- varmin has quit [*.net *.split] 19:20:37 -!- zkyp has quit [*.net *.split] 19:20:37 -!- eeeeeta has quit [*.net *.split] 19:20:37 -!- magicpoints has quit [*.net *.split] 19:20:37 -!- sgun_ has quit [*.net *.split] 19:20:37 -!- geekosaur has quit [*.net *.split] 19:20:38 -!- imantor has quit [*.net *.split] 19:20:38 -!- tgummerer has quit [*.net *.split] 19:20:38 -!- Jafet has quit [*.net *.split] 19:20:39 -!- oky has quit [*.net *.split] 19:20:39 -!- Adeon has quit [*.net *.split] 19:20:39 -!- Finwe^ has quit [*.net *.split] 19:20:39 -!- figging_ has quit [*.net *.split] 19:20:39 -!- wmbt has quit [*.net *.split] 19:24:23 what nrook said 19:24:43 I wand to write a patch for config.d, but even when I supply two patches, one for each branch -- the master one won't be committed?! 19:25:50 -!- varmin has joined ##crawl-dev 19:25:50 -!- magicpoints has joined ##crawl-dev 19:25:50 -!- geekosaur has joined ##crawl-dev 19:25:50 -!- Adeon has joined ##crawl-dev 19:26:14 -!- eeeeeta has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 19:26:39 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 19:26:39 -!- Sizzell has joined ##crawl-dev 19:26:39 -!- greensnark has joined ##crawl-dev 19:26:39 -!- MakMorn has joined ##crawl-dev 19:26:54 I mean, I think the master one would also be committed 19:27:04 you just have to write and make two patches 19:27:12 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 19:27:54 Basil: why would shadow dragons get umbras? hda doesn't have an umbra........ 19:28:01 (and, more seriously, that would be way too many umbras.) 19:28:05 HilariousUmbraArtist 19:28:46 nrook: haha, 'just' write two patches 19:29:31 oh, I got cutoff from netsplit I guess 19:29:33 %git 19:29:33 07wheals02 * 0.16-a0-1554-g5be93e9: Give Xtahua red draconian breath. 10(54 minutes ago, 2 files, 24+ 28-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=5be93e9946df 19:29:57 well as I said, any patch to webtiles that requires a server upgrade already requires waiting weeks 19:30:04 because the server admins each have to upgrade 19:30:13 any patch that does *generally* can go into trunk 19:30:21 checkers' patch requires a server upgrade 19:30:33 server upgrade/restart 19:30:44 it doesn't require a server upgrade, existing configs work 19:30:48 even that one could go into trunk I think; it's just a very trivial patch anyhow so it's hardly much to worry about 19:30:51 (with no behaviour change) 19:31:13 fwiw, nrook, you're aware of |amethyst's planned deploy date for webtiles-changes? 19:31:20 ~2 mo from now, iirc 19:31:40 the fact is we very very seldomly get anything amount of webtiles patches 19:31:45 when we do they're very small tweaks 19:31:46 * dpeg expects a Christmas commit season 19:31:58 a new WebTiles developer would be great of course 19:32:21 you get very few webtiles patches at least in part because of the confusing state of webtiles 19:32:39 if webtiles-changes will be merged and deployed in ~2 mo that is great 19:32:57 I don't know what that's supposed to mean; the webtiles code-base is what it is, I'm talking historically over like the last 1-2 years 19:33:17 the webtiles codebase exists in two branches, trunk/master and webtiles-changes 19:33:33 it is unclear to an outside developer which one should be developed against 19:33:39 * dpeg recalls a time when devs discussed this and reached concensus that webtiles 'is not in reach'. 19:34:03 nrook: that is not an eternal situation! 19:34:06 yeah a branch that's maintained by edlothiol; there just haven't been devs coming in with contributions because no one has brought the know-how 19:34:09 imho, shelve this discussion for a few months 19:34:32 if christmas comes and go and limbo continues, then I think it is reasonable to start discussing alternatives 19:35:15 yeah I'd be curious to know, alternatives to what? anyone can start making patches and coordinated with ed; that's exactly what I've done for my few contributions 19:35:20 and he's quite responsive 19:36:18 alternatives to this deployment plan, I guess? idk. it seems like webtiles development shouldn't be held hostage indefinitely (not that I think that's likely to happen, at this stage!) 19:36:26 idk why I'm continuing this discussion after suggesting that we table it.... 19:37:21 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:37:30 it's not held hostage is what I'm saying; when I had ideas I talked with ed and he gave feedback, I implemented it, he merged it 19:37:49 which server hosts your change? 19:38:25 what does that mean? 19:38:51 dbro has test hosted it, for one. and it'll be live on cszo in a little bit? 19:38:54 I mean come on 19:39:13 I'm not saying ed is some sort of branch tyrant; he seems like a nice guy who is easy to work with. I'm saying that as an outside contributor, if I want to make a (config-neutral) change to webtiles that will be running on at least one server in a week, I have no idea where to begin 19:39:17 other changes I've made to webtiles just went into trunk, but again these were small tweaks. 19:39:23 if that's going to be resolved in 2 months that's great 19:39:57 well the basic probably is usually that it requires server updates and restarts; e.g. each admin has to accept, understand, and coordinate the upgrade 19:40:11 example of changes I worked on: spectator list score links, linkify urls in chat 19:40:28 and those just had to sit until e.g. eveyr admin did an upgrade 19:40:38 there's no changing that without new not-webtiles technology 19:40:58 how can i jump from crawl back to GDB? 19:41:15 wheals: set a breakpoint? 19:41:30 you can set a conditional breakpoint 19:41:36 hm, maybe i should learn anything at all about gdb 19:41:49 wheals: yeah look into break ... if CONDITION 19:42:09 but there might be fancier things you can do debugging from outside process, not sure 19:42:30 (also use parens around condition, that's messed me up a bunch) 19:43:02 does sigint (ctrl+c) work? 19:43:30 no, it did not 19:43:49 does seem like a basic thing you should be able to do 19:44:00 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 19:44:04 CanOfWorms: hi! 19:44:05 http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5857300/gdb-ctrlc-doesnt-interrupt-process-as-it-usually-does claims crawl is probably handling sigint itself and you might be able to type "handle SIGINT stop" to get it to work 19:44:06 sup 19:44:21 what did we just open... 19:44:23 so I'm trying to compile and getting a error for SDL.h 19:44:34 CanOfWorms: what platform are you compiling on? 19:44:36 are you on OS X? 19:44:38 windows 19:44:40 cygwin 19:44:41 ! 19:44:44 the non-tiles compiles 19:44:57 (why would console be trying to use SDL......) 19:44:58 did the submodule thing in the install file 19:44:59 we probably really need to patch our SDL 19:45:04 gammafunk: yes 19:45:11 no, I'm trying to compile tiles :v 19:45:28 CanOfWorms: give me a sec and i can do a test... i've only compiled console with a cygwin target 19:45:28 I compiled non-tiles to test the compiling 19:45:41 oh 19:45:50 I misread "the non-tiles compiles" :) 19:45:53 http://puu.sh/cltSA/9882ad9fd1.png 19:45:56 the error message 19:46:33 can't load that, but maybe try pastebin.com and pasting the text 19:47:04 works for me 19:47:06 http://imgur.com/1o2j5ow ? 19:47:09 SDL.h: no such file or directory 19:47:27 CanOfWorms: possibly make -DBUILD_SDL TILES=y 19:47:36 (and whatever other command line options you need) 19:47:37 or rather 19:47:41 make BUILD_SDL=y TILES=y 19:47:52 (I am not running on Windows but I can at least read the makefile...) 19:48:03 -!- Hailley has quit [Quit: Petra is closed!] 19:48:43 actually even more likely to work would 19:48:47 be 19:48:54 make BUILD_ALL=y TILES=y 19:49:03 yeah the build_sdl one didn't work 19:49:14 Did you at least get a different message? 19:49:16 http://pastebin.com/hW3btRPd 19:49:18 yeah 19:49:25 bunch of CC src/... then that 19:49:38 and some INSTALL stuff 19:50:03 hm 19:50:19 I am noticing that our makefile can detect and account for MinGW but not Cygwin... 19:50:55 make NO_PKGCONFIG=y CONTRIB_SDL=y BUILD_ALL=y TILES=y 19:51:07 hmm 19:51:08 ahh sdl fails to build 19:51:13 03wheals02 07* 0.16-a0-1555-gca77ae0: Prompt for unwielding a vampiric weapon at all hunger levels (rchandra). 10(78 seconds ago, 1 file, 2+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=ca77ae0341bc 19:51:16 think I'm getting the same message for build_all 19:51:38 CanOfWorms: separate thing but I see that you're building stable. any reason why you don't use the release binaries? 19:51:55 gammafunk: presumably he wants to tinker with something :) 19:52:04 CanOfWorms: yeah, you might need to grab the cygwin packaged SDL (and hope it doesn't target X11) 19:52:10 yeah, just messing with something non-volatile :v 19:52:11 well sure but just in case he wasn't aware that we have them! 19:52:19 I'm aware :p 19:52:36 cygwin packaged sdl, which package is that? 19:52:39 who would think trunk is volatile??? 19:52:45 who indeed.... 19:52:48 !lm * 0.16-a crash x=cdist(noun) 19:52:48 792 milestones for * (0.16-a crash): cdist(noun)=50 19:52:51 nice 19:52:57 it might not exist... i'll take a look at the cygwin package list 19:53:21 -!- pentax has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:53:31 (i generally cross compile to a mingw target for windows tiles builds) 19:55:05 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 19:56:59 johnny0: I have vague memories of cygwin having sdl 19:57:06 CanOfWorms: yeah there's no official sdl package available for cygwin 19:57:13 dang 19:57:18 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 19:57:34 hm 19:57:41 apparently I am thinking of something else because I appear to be wrong :( 19:57:43 Grunt: a search of a fresh package listing shows no hits 19:57:45 cang? 19:57:46 cang 19:57:48 clang?? 19:57:49 clang 19:58:52 CanOfWorms: you can download the mingw64-i686-gcc-g++ package and cross-compile to a native windows tile build though 20:00:29 clang. 20:00:58 clang! 20:01:24 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.16-a0-1556-g417ca3d: Use a define for undead hunger 10(7 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=417ca3d1b7f9 20:01:24 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.16-a0-1557-gc690f04: Restore Malign Offering's level and spellpower 10(5 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=c690f0411f96 20:01:33 !blame wheals 20:01:34 I pronounce wheals... Guilty! 20:01:52 PleasingFungus: "WWWHHHEEEAAALLLSSS" imo 20:01:53 huh 20:02:00 I decided to mix it up a bit. 20:02:00 that looks like some kind of undead moan 20:02:12 theTower: lil bit! 20:02:20 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 20:02:24 UndeadFungus 20:02:27 deathcap!!! 20:02:49 (speaking of undead plants I was trying to come up with a Death Blossom ability for who knows what earlier...) 20:03:30 replace fedhas elemental miscasts wrath 20:03:45 ok, downloaded the mingw64 package 20:04:07 what do I want to do to cross-compile? 20:04:13 -!- shnurlf has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:04:31 Grunt: is crawl finally going to evolve into its ultimate, shmup form? 20:04:42 Grunt: demonic plant? 20:05:00 fedhas imo 20:05:05 wheals: no, undead plants 20:05:11 wheals: there is a distinction!!! 20:05:31 CanOfWorms: make -s -j2 CROSSHOST=i686-w64-mingw32 TILES=y debug-lite 20:05:36 might be a good starting point 20:05:39 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 20:05:50 (you can omit debug-lite if you want, but if you are tinkering it is a good idea) 20:06:02 well adjust -j2 or remove based on your machine, of course 20:06:08 -!- causative is now known as halberd 20:06:49 32? 20:07:12 hmm, seems to be doing something so far 20:07:57 You mean re: -j2? It won't break anything by you'd generally want -jN+1 where N is the number of cores on your machine 20:08:00 CanOfWorms: yeah, that's the target triplet for mingw-w64's win32 compiler 20:08:37 yeah that is a tad confusing 20:08:41 hmm 20:08:54 now it seems like a regular compile error 20:09:00 ? 20:09:08 /usr/include/stdint.h:99:22: error: ‘uintptr_t’ has a previous declaration as ‘typedef unsigned int uintptr_t’ 20:09:42 last file it was messing with is tile.o? 20:09:44 -!- bcde is now known as bcode 20:11:13 -!- tkappleton2 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:14:09 oh boy 20:14:46 i686-pc-cygwin-g++ -O2 -g -Wall -Wextra -Wno-parentheses -Wno-unused-parameter -I../contrib/install/i686-w64-mingw32/include/SDL -I../contrib/install/i686-w64-mingw32/include -DUSE_TILE -MMD -c tool/tile.cc -o tool/tile.o 20:14:56 looks like the host compiler is using the target includes :/ 20:15:10 do I want to type that whole thing? 20:15:14 no 20:15:19 that's the command that's choking 20:15:21 ah 20:15:26 phew 20:17:34 -!- Limulus__ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:22:21 -!- Kintak has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 20:24:35 fr triple shields 20:24:46 -!- Mottikins_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 20:24:48 ^^^ 20:24:49 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 20:24:53 ontoclasm: cube shields that box in enemies 20:24:57 the most powerful Fo... 20:25:06 Hypercube Shield imo 20:25:18 Shield dimension: ++++ 20:25:47 You need 25i shields to remove the penalties. 20:25:50 hm. would it be excessively dumb to make kiku occasionally drop skeletons 20:25:55 now that there are no rotten corpses 20:25:56 read: that sounds too 20:25:58 !glasses 20:25:58 ( •_•)    ( •_•)>⌐■-■    (⌐■_■) 20:25:59 complex 20:26:01 .... 20:26:06 -!- Zermako_ has quit [] 20:26:51 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.16-a0-1558-g5989093: Make ghoul chunk-healing more reliable 10(18 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=5989093897f2 20:30:05 does she drop rotten corpses? man, it's been a while 20:30:12 !lg . vp won 20:30:12 1. gammafunk the Englaciator (L27 VpIE of Kikubaaqudgha), escaped with the Orb and 15 runes on 2013-01-26 02:24:41, with 9153011 points after 187141 turns and 1d+6:12:40. 20:30:26 Kikubaaqudgha cackles at your pronouns. 20:30:27 rip ice storm 20:30:34 !glaciate gammafunk 20:30:35 Grunt gestures. Grunt conjures a mighty blast of ice! The great icy blast engulfs gammafunk! 20:30:48 Back in my day, there were no ice blocks! 20:30:55 !silence gammafunk 20:30:56 CanOfWorms: sorry, i'm trying to find out why the wrong flags are being attached, but i'm getting lost in the tile generation stuff 20:31:33 ah, ok 20:31:38 gammafunk: she did! 20:31:40 varying by piety 20:32:09 yeah I think that maybe should be a thing then 20:32:21 since the idea was you're not getting nutrition, but you do get a usable zombie 20:32:27 sure 20:32:39 I guess you could just give corpses and call it a day 20:32:39 I think def. fewer skeletons than there were rotten corpses 20:32:42 since a skeleton is worse 20:32:53 ya I think that is also fine. 20:33:00 it is not a very big deal. 20:33:08 PleasingFungus: what would you, as a fungus prefer? 20:33:16 I guess corpses huh 20:33:16 I think I am going to work on... 20:33:21 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:33:22 oh, haha 20:33:25 you are a goof 20:33:43 I, as a funk, would prefer ugly thing corpses 20:33:54 how repulsive! 20:33:56 !rng ign evoc brand sbl spldsc 20:33:56 The RNG chooses: sbl. 20:34:00 mm. good choice. 20:34:07 what on earth 20:34:09 those acronyms 20:34:13 enigmatic! 20:34:20 also they're mostly abbreviations 20:36:03 wait, wtf, why do we use the same field to store vorpalness and damage type. 20:36:18 augh. this is so, so, dumb 20:36:28 so dumb! 20:36:33 PleasingFungus feels dopey. PleasingFungus convulses! 20:37:37 // whip slashing (no butcher) 20:40:57 !source tags.cc:5066 20:40:57 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/tags.cc;hb=HEAD#l5066 20:41:12 can I add I check here to remove mnoleg's tentacle spell? 20:41:47 and I guess add malign_gateway back 20:42:00 well malign gateway, wth is that _ 20:42:10 gammafunk: try 20:42:21 !source tags.cc:5647 20:42:21 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/tags.cc;hb=HEAD#l5647 20:43:02 Grunt: but do I know if it's mnoleg there? 20:43:11 or rather, can I know 20:43:24 hm 20:43:35 that's why I chose the loop I gave above 20:43:55 <|amethyst> gammafunk: take a look at the MONS_DRACONIAN thing in the second branch 20:43:59 -!- Ququman has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:44:06 -!- shnurlf has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:44:13 <|amethyst> except you'd be using just m.type rather than mons_genus(m.type) 20:44:30 "Azrael's bad breath" 20:44:38 fr update Azrael's description to mention something about bad breath 20:44:52 PleasingFungus: there's a side project for you 20:44:52 yeah ok, so that was the correct loop, thanks 20:44:59 haha 20:45:01 ahh i can't follow the tile generation stuff... i don't know which file is in charge of building the tool/tile* targets 20:45:06 currently I'm working on making all sbl piercing 20:45:21 PleasingFungus: I hope you are also moving the Fencer title 20:45:21 <3 20:45:26 <|amethyst> johnny0: rltiles/Makefile 20:45:34 trying to decide whether I can justify making the cutlass a rapier 20:45:40 since a rapier is not, technically, an especially short blade 20:45:42 it is light! 20:46:02 %git HEAD^{/realism} 20:46:06 07PleasingFungus02 {wheals} * 0.15-a0-434-g8182b86: Rename the bow of Krishna to the longbow of Vishnu 10(6 months ago, 8 files, 17+ 5-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=8182b86013c6 20:46:06 heh 20:46:10 %git HEAD^{/realistic} 20:46:10 07DracoOmega02 * 0.14-a0-3592-g52d274e: Adjust cloud weights for Rod of Clouds 10(7 months ago, 1 file, 5+ 5-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=52d274e05954 20:46:13 hm 20:46:17 %git HEAD^{/insult} 20:46:18 07doy02 * 0.16-a0-966-g739c3b2: re-insult anyone with the slightest clue about how RL weapons work 10(3 weeks ago, 65 files, 117+ 117-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=739c3b2d43d8 20:46:22 ^ 20:46:23 true 20:46:30 tbf, your first result was also relevant :) 20:46:32 in a sense 20:46:35 yes! 20:47:16 |amethyst: thanks 20:47:54 epee 20:47:56 ugh, eclipse sometimes doesn't list the Makefile without a manual refresh 20:48:03 all those players who used to keep the sbl of flaming around to help when using their edged weapons vs hydra.... 20:48:32 those poor, poor players 20:49:19 gammafunk: show any more mercy to foul players and I'll have you removed. 20:49:29 those poor, poor players 20:49:37 /kick gammafunk 20:51:33 !remove Grunt 20:51:34 I wonder why the author of that save compat thing for dracs made the if nested like that 20:51:39 ontoclasm: I vaguely feel like a rapier is more iconic 20:52:20 yes, i was being facetious 20:52:25 haha 20:52:28 rapier is fine 20:52:44 probably best not to overthink it 20:52:46 oh 20:52:50 what to do about the captain's cutlass? 20:52:54 aside from annoying "rape jokes" it'll enable, rapiers are cool yeah 20:52:59 can you set different damage types in art-data? 20:53:03 gammafunk: augh 20:53:06 noooo 20:53:09 it's a sad world we live in if that's a real concern 20:53:28 !send gammafunk swastikas 20:53:28 Sending swastikas to gammafunk. 20:53:54 PleasingFungus: just give it back a unique basetype 20:54:18 when are we getting a crawl version of http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20101121071728/wolfenstein/images/7/7d/WOLF3D_E6M03.PNG 20:54:33 I wonder how much of a pain it is to make base types that don't generate 20:54:40 !send PleasingFungus hammers 20:54:41 Sending hammers to PleasingFungus. 20:54:46 !send Grunt scythes 20:54:46 Sending scythes to Grunt. 20:55:00 Grunt: do I want 27 for malign gateway for mnoleg? 20:55:01 don't you mean sickles 20:55:07 for the number thingy 20:55:12 gammafunk: let me check the old spellset and give you some numbers 20:55:44 theTower: heh 20:55:50 took me a moment 20:56:12 gammafunk: if it's a direct match for the old spellset it gets 13, not 27 (because he only had it in one spell slot previously) 20:56:24 ...though if you are removing smiting you'd presumably be adding another instance of malign gateway?? 20:56:27 in which case it can be 27 20:56:30 ah 20:56:40 yeah good point...hrm smite was not useless 20:57:12 give mnoleg a smite that does like, 37-87 damage 20:57:25 airstrike? 20:57:25 seems maybe unthematic compared more eldritch 20:57:28 how about 3-60 20:57:32 it has an obvious attempted purpose 20:57:46 sure, could do, just seems a random thing for him to have I guess 20:58:03 made more sense when it was nemelex 20:58:33 maybe lets just see how a bit more eldritch and 4 weird attacks plays 20:58:48 anyone can make follow up commits as they see fit, of course 20:58:52 ...I have Summon Chaos on standby if we need it <_< 20:59:35 ...anyone but Grunt unless he's accompanied by a responsible ...ah who am I kidding 20:59:52 gammafunk: what is this "responsibility" of which you speak! 21:00:17 ontoclasm: man, I don't stop making work for you, do I? 21:00:19 when it comes to weapon sprites 21:00:36 haha 21:01:01 rip ontoclasm 21:01:06 at least he doesn't have to do another tentacle set anymore 21:01:09 PleasingFungus: now you have another tiles dev to give workto, at least 21:01:22 !seen roctavian 21:01:22 I last saw roctavian at Mon Oct 20 18:09:34 2014 UTC (1d 7h 51m 48s ago) quitting, saying 'Ping timeout: 246 seconds'. 21:01:31 -!- slitherrr has joined ##crawl-dev 21:01:32 replace all m&f with fist weapons 21:01:58 when's the bennu tile >_> 21:02:10 The bennu tile bursts into flames! 21:02:18 (probably by the time I finish ushabti considering how slow I am) 21:02:50 ontoclasm must die and be reborn as the firebird, then the Tiles will be complete... 21:03:09 !me is engulfed in roaring flames! 21:03:13 -!- SteampunkDuck has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:03:17 er, rip 21:03:23 !firestorm ontoclasm 21:03:23 Grunt points at ontoclasm and mumbles some strange words. A raging storm of fire appears! The great blast of fire engulfs ontoclasm! 21:03:37 * ontoclasm burns! 21:03:42 -!- SomeStupidGuy has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 21:03:43 %git 745e1e27 21:03:43 07kilobyte02 * 0.14-a0-1421-g745e1e2: Sort the ex-sabre quote into the right place. 10(10 months ago, 1 file, 7+ 7-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=745e1e2732ce 21:03:48 ha! 21:03:50 well, then 21:03:51 -!- PleasingFungus has left ##crawl-dev 21:03:55 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 21:04:33 From sword to sword it goes.... 21:05:00 (where it stops, nobody knows?????) 21:05:10 where it stabs, nobody knows. 21:05:17 from swords, and unto swords shall it return 21:05:57 !lg * ikiller~~bennu -3 21:05:58 6/8. Zig the Metallomancer (L27 HEFi of Cheibriados), hit from afar by bennu on Tomb:3 (tomb_3) on 2014-10-10 15:57:41, with 849993 points after 115965 turns and 4:56:11. 21:06:10 okay, that's not horrible 21:07:04 CanOfWorms: ahh it looks like the problem is two-fold -- one, the tile generation program falls back to the *target* includes/libs when an sdl-config/pkgconfig invocation fails 21:07:40 -!- SteampunkDuck has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:07:46 -!- yernab has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 21:08:53 -!- SteampunkDuck has quit [Client Quit] 21:08:56 (connecting some earlier bits, I wonder if "The bennu blazes out!") 21:09:09 so... the program needs to train invocations...? 21:09:11 :v 21:09:38 two, the SDL headers fail for cygwin anyway, so even if it was grabbing the correct *host* includes/libs contrib paths it'd still fail 21:09:43 -!- st_ has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 21:09:47 ah 21:10:05 so is cygwin a dead end? 21:12:13 <|amethyst> hm 21:12:15 for tiles builds, probably :/ -- i don't think i've ever tried to build sdl/sdl2 standalone for cygwin 21:12:21 <|amethyst> the main makefile uses pkg-config sdl 21:12:27 <|amethyst> the rltiles makefile uses sdl-config 21:12:39 Autoexplore repeatedly returning to group of corpses 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9065 by MorganLeah 21:12:39 <|amethyst> perhaps that's part of the problem? 21:13:16 ??rebuild 21:13:16 rebuild[1/2]: http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rebuild/ https://dobrazupa.org/rebuild/ http://crawl.lantea.net/rebuild/ http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/rebuild/ Bug Grunt, |amethyst, or Nap kin for CDO. Use your powers wisely. 21:14:08 |amethyst: well, if CanOfWorms managed to get a standalone cygwin SDL installed, the cross compile would probably work 21:14:13 -!- HDA has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 21:14:27 -!- roctavian has joined ##crawl-dev 21:14:45 speak of the devil 21:15:16 !send theTower devilry 21:15:16 Sending devilry to theTower. 21:15:25 -!- mamgar has quit [Quit: Exit Stage Left] 21:15:27 i think he has a card for that too 21:15:29 but there's no sdl package available in the Cygwin repos 21:15:46 !send roctavian excessive workloads 21:15:46 Sending excessive workloads to roctavian. 21:15:56 (no I don't actually have anything to pawn off on you, but..........) 21:16:03 right beside it, yes 21:16:26 -!- SomeStupidGirl has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 21:16:36 there's plenty of workload already in terms of tiles i gotta figure out how to commit 21:16:57 i've read the git guide on the dev wiki and i feel like i generally understand things 21:17:04 <|amethyst> roctavian: oh, forgot to ask... what email do you want to use for the secret list? 21:17:23 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:17:23 sicsemperjohn@gmail.com 21:17:52 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 21:17:59 <|amethyst> (I guess it's more of a secret in the sense of "covert" than "clandestine") 21:18:10 cloak and dagger 21:18:13 or is it rapier 21:18:15 <|amethyst> added 21:18:19 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 21:18:24 cool 21:18:50 eldritch tentacle (13w) | Spd: 12 (07stationary) | HD: 16 | HP: 105-137 | AC/EV: 13/0 | Dam: 3009(chaos), 4009(claw)09(chaos) | 11non-living, amphibious, see invisible, lev | Res: 13magic(immune), 05hellfire, 04fire+++, 12cold+++, 11elec+++, 09poison+++, 08acid+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm, 04napalm | Vul: 11silver | XP: 2288 | Sz: Giant | Int: animal. 21:18:50 %??eldritch_tentacle 21:19:03 roctavian, if you want some git practice, here is a task for you: 21:19:10 move your name to the right category in CREDITS.txt :) 21:19:23 unknown monster: "monleg's_tentacle" 21:19:23 %??monleg's_tentacle 21:19:28 Mnoleg's tentacle (13w) | Spd: 13 (07stationary) | HD: 16 | HP: 105-137 | AC/EV: 13/0 | Dam: 3012(klown), 4009(claw)12(klown) | 05demonic, see invisible, lev | Res: 13magic(immune), 05fire, 10elec++, 03poison, 12drown, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 0 | Sz: Giant | Int: animal. 21:19:28 %??mnoleg's tentacle 21:19:31 der 21:19:40 klown klaw 21:20:10 CanOfWorms: I'll check out some cygwin-specific SDL1.2 patches in a little while and see how they work 21:20:27 <|amethyst> oh, that reminds me 21:21:09 <|amethyst> I saw a SDL patch for the OS X GLhandleARB thing 21:21:15 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.16-a0-1558-g5989093 (34) 21:21:44 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.16-a0-1558-g5989093 (34) 21:21:45 <|amethyst> (it just does an #ifdef __APPLE__) 21:22:09 <|amethyst> don't know whether we should apply that to our SDL or add it to the pile of evidence that we should switch to SDL 2 21:22:21 <|amethyst> I guess both? 21:22:24 ya 21:22:27 I was about to say 21:23:05 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:23:09 Carry the SDL2 torch! Rouse the idle hands! 21:23:10 <|amethyst> I'm not entirely sure what I need to do to update a submodule 21:23:22 |amethyst: I had someone try that that they got other errors; are there mutliple places that need the ifdef 21:23:23 <|amethyst> I guess commit the submodule then commit crawl itself? 21:23:43 <|amethyst> gammafunk: hm... 21:24:11 but if you've tested it then maybe said person just messed it up somehow 21:24:16 <|amethyst> I haven't tested it 21:24:19 <|amethyst> I don't have a mac 21:24:44 <|amethyst> I have access to some PPC macs but that won't help diagnose a build issue with newer SDKs 21:25:10 Sounds like a job for PleasingFungus? 21:25:13 <|amethyst> (and I don't think any of those machines actually has OS X installed at the moment) 21:25:23 well, I mean 21:25:28 I'm not getting the sdl bug right now 21:25:33 so I'm not the best person to test a fix... 21:25:36 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: are you building SDL from contribs? 21:25:44 you'd have to update your xcode to get the breakage 21:25:48 did ghost brands get altered recently? 21:25:53 rchandra: ? 21:26:05 my ghost had a chaos weapon, it died with antimagic 21:26:05 <|amethyst> rchandra: pghosts now have public brands 21:26:12 <|amethyst> hm 21:26:59 !lm psiweapon ghost=rchandra lair:1 mibe 1 -tv:channel=dev 21:26:59 No milestones for psiweapon (ghost=rchandra lair:1 mibe). 21:27:13 !lm psiweapon ghost=rchandra lair:1 1 -tv:channel=dev 21:27:14 1. Psiweapon, XL12 DrFi, T:14439 (milestone) requested for dev (telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org). 21:27:26 -!- Mayheim_ has quit [Client Quit] 21:27:26 !log . mibe lair:1 21:27:27 1. hyperrchandra, XL11 MiBe, T:10043: http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/hyperrchandra/morgue-hyperrchandra-20141022-020454.txt 21:27:44 oh wait I apologize 21:27:55 -!- cribozai has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 21:28:01 ghsot is rchandra, game was hyperrchandra :( 21:28:13 !lg rchandra lair:1 21:28:14 8. hyperrchandra the Severer (L11 MiBe of Trog), blasted by Harold (bolt of fire) on Lair:1 on 2014-10-22 02:04:54, with 11601 points after 10043 turns and 0:49:04. 21:28:15 !lg rchandra lair:1 -2 21:28:16 7/8. rchandra the Nimble (L11 SpGl of Trog), mangled by a spiny frog (kmap: beast_lair_carwin_10) on Lair:1 on 2014-10-21 06:35:15, with 11953 points after 14799 turns and 0:53:37. 21:28:18 !lg rchandra lair:1 -2 -log 21:28:19 7/8. rchandra, XL11 SpGl, T:14799: http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/morgue/rchandra/morgue-rchandra-20141021-063515.txt 21:28:24 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.16-a0-1558-g5989093 (34) 21:29:21 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 21:29:33 !gamesby hyperwheals 21:29:33 No games for hyperwheals. 21:29:36 rip 21:29:57 !gamesby hypergammafunk 21:29:57 No games for hypergammafunk. 21:30:00 !gamesby hyperfunk 21:30:01 No games for hyperfunk. 21:30:03 rip 21:30:05 rchandra: sounds like a bug, probably mine 21:30:08 -!- wheals has quit [Client Quit] 21:30:12 FFFUUUNNNGGGUUUSSS 21:30:13 no PleasingFungus I misreported 21:30:14 rchandra: did it actually hit you with chaos? 21:30:15 oh 21:30:27 heh 21:30:29 I was watching tv of my ghost dying, and watched the wrong one 21:30:33 rip 21:30:56 hm. |amethyst, are you familiar with art-data.pl? 21:31:02 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 21:31:27 FR: Staff of Poison melee-evoke inflicts poison scaling in severity with Poison Magic skill. 21:31:41 Antaeus (11C) | Spd: 10 | HD: 22 | HP: 700 | AC/EV: 28/4 | Dam: 7512(cold:22-65), 3012(cold:22-65) | 05demonic, 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, fighter, amphibious, see invisible | Res: 13magic(immune), 02cold++, 10elec++, 12drown, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 04fire, 08holy++ | XP: 15000 | Sp: b.lightning (3d25), flash freeze (3d29) | Sz: Giant | Int: high. 21:31:41 %??antaeus 21:31:45 ??venom brand 21:31:46 venom[1/1]: This brand will poison monsters 50% of the time on a successful hit with an amount scaling with how much damage you did. While poisoned, monsters will take a few points of damage every turn until they recover; multiple levels of poison will increase this linearly. 21:31:52 Kind of like how venom scales with damage. 21:32:01 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: not specifically 21:32:12 something is converting the "captain's cutlass" into the "captain's rapier" 21:32:19 somewhere between art-data.txt and art-data.h 21:32:21 PleasingFungus: nooo 21:32:28 which seems like it must be art-data.pl? 21:33:08 <|amethyst> hrm 21:33:18 <|amethyst> that makes no sense 21:33:44 -!- AGinsberg has quit [Quit: leaving] 21:33:57 hm. had an idea 21:34:07 Is it a bad idea? 21:34:07 1s 21:34:12 <|amethyst> what's the entry? 21:34:15 those are the best kind! 21:34:23 ha, got it 21:34:27 1learn add bad_ideas 21:34:31 the problem was that my sed had edited art-data.h 21:34:34 and nothing rebuilt it 21:34:39 since art-data.txt hadn't been modified 21:34:57 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 21:35:07 PleasingFungus: does he look polish to you? 21:35:12 .sedignore 21:35:28 is this a kb joke 21:35:32 idgi 21:35:48 .pl 21:35:51 .pl 21:35:55 Ohhhhh. 21:35:56 I get it. 21:36:28 -!- wheals has quit [Client Quit] 21:36:33 -!- AGinsberg has quit [Client Quit] 21:36:45 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 21:36:48 PleasingFungus: .pl 21:37:02 wheals: .pl 21:37:03 wheals: .pl 21:37:07 gammafunk: .pl 21:37:07 Grunt: .pl 21:37:16 PleasingFungus: .pl 21:37:23 pls.... 21:37:24 oh did my message go through the first time 21:37:25 .pl: .pl 21:37:27 hahahaha 21:37:31 Grunt: .pl 21:37:32 it did, wheals. 21:37:41 wheals.pl 21:37:42 interesting 21:38:08 .Pl easingFungus: 21:38:08 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 21:38:08 dang. 21:38:08 PolishFungus 21:38:14 <|amethyst> somehow I can speak Perl much better than Polish 21:38:17 don't eat those! 21:38:44 <|amethyst> despite encountering Polish most days, I've never learned more than two or three phrases 21:38:46 !lg * ikiller=bennu 21:38:46 8. Hiermare the Earth Mage (L24 VSEE of Elyvilon), slain by a bennu on Tomb:1 (tomb_1) on 2014-10-20 06:01:25, with 484600 points after 68877 turns and 7:24:06. 21:38:51 <|amethyst> one of which is "good soup" 21:38:53 oh this reminds me 21:38:58 !lg * pan max=vlong x=vlong 21:38:59 1842. [vlong=0.16-a0-1545-gb37f041] Airwolf the Farming Pyromancer (L27 DrCj of Vehumet), slain by an Executioner in Pandemonium (evilmike_mini_pan_diamond) on 2014-10-22 00:38:28, with 972354 points after 219486 turns and 17:27:59. 21:39:04 !lg * pan max=vlong x=vlong -2 21:39:05 1841/1842. [vlong=0.16-a0-1365-gde15f7f] Charly the Cryomancer (L26 MfIE of Ru), blasted by Qeotu the pandemonium lord (divine providence) (kmap: rand_demon_1) in Pandemonium on 2014-10-19 16:04:45, with 587434 points after 53578 turns and 19:37:54. 21:39:08 !lg * pan max=vlong x=vlong -tv 21:39:08 1842. Airwolf, XL27 DrCj, T:219486 requested for FooTV (telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org). 21:41:09 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 21:41:15 !learn cp 21:41:15 I don't know about !learn cp. 21:41:17 !learn copy 21:41:17 I don't know about !learn copy. 21:41:19 wtf 21:41:27 wh 21:41:28 at 21:41:31 -!- wheals has quit [Client Quit] 21:41:32 messed up...... 21:41:39 though I guess it wouldn't be useful very often 21:41:58 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.16-a0-1559-g441bb9b: Tweak short blades 10(7 minutes ago, 45 files, 114+ 101-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=441bb9b88f8f 21:42:00 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 21:42:00 -!- rchandra has left ##crawl-dev 21:42:00 !send wheals a better connection 21:42:00 Sending a better connection to wheals. 21:42:00 -!- raskol has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 21:42:23 -!- wheals has quit [Client Quit] 21:42:43 feeling productive tonight. 21:42:46 what's next? 21:42:55 PleasingFungus: you didn't actually make the captain' cutlass a cutlass??? 21:43:01 (did you forget to add something to your commit) 21:43:08 uh 21:43:10 it was already a cutlass 21:43:13 and now it is still a cutlass 21:43:22 it's just that nothing else is a cutlass anymore 21:43:22 - mprf("You knock %s %s to the ground with your cutlass!", 21:43:23 + mprf("You knock %s %s to the ground with your rapier!", 21:43:26 erp 21:43:32 hence the confusion 21:43:43 FFFUUUNNNGGGUUUSSS 21:43:43 <3 21:43:58 sed is a cruel mistress. 21:44:09 <|amethyst> The Awk of Seds 21:44:15 awkward.... 21:44:21 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 21:44:36 !lg * ikiller=bennu tmsg~~afar 21:44:37 1. Zig the Metallomancer (L27 HEFi of Cheibriados), hit from afar by bennu on Tomb:3 (tomb_3) on 2014-10-10 15:57:41, with 849993 points after 115965 turns and 4:56:11. 21:44:44 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.16-a0-1560-gd57a44a: Don't call a cutlass a rapier (Grunt) 10(38 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=d57a44a467d1 21:44:47 <|amethyst> oh, sorry 21:44:50 <|amethyst> that's Awk of the Seds 21:45:53 <|amethyst> (FR: Dogar and Kazon) 21:45:55 -!- wheals has quit [Client Quit] 21:47:01 hrm 21:47:04 cacodemon (082) | Spd: 10 | HD: 13 | HP: 83-114 | AC/EV: 11/10 | Dam: 22, 22 | 05demonic, 10doors, see invisible, lev, regen | Res: 06magic(160), 10elec, 03poison, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++, 11silver | XP: 1625 | Sp: b.energy (3d20), slow, confuse, malmutate, dig | Sz: Large | Int: high. 21:47:04 %??cacodemon 21:47:20 oh right golden eyes I guess 21:47:32 I assume af_klown doesn't check mr 21:47:36 for its mallus effects 21:47:47 s/ll/l/ 21:47:54 of course not 21:48:00 ??af_klown 21:48:00 af klown[1/1]: Special damage type used by Killer Klowns. Per attack randomly: strong poison, pain, drain speed, fire, cold, elec, antimagic, acid. 21:48:01 of course not! 21:48:11 that's all just those afs 21:48:18 and none of those afs check mr 21:48:25 fr AF_MNOLEG 21:48:30 combine all those various attack types??? 21:48:31 <_< 21:48:31 well yes that's my question 21:48:35 e.g. drain speed 21:48:42 drain speed checks rN. 21:48:46 haha 21:48:47 because it's on wraiths. 21:48:55 I was wondering what would take advantage of -mr 21:48:59 cacos, golden eyes 21:49:02 polymorph 21:49:11 well that was not agreed to! 21:49:13 tormentor pain 21:49:14 Grunt: you are a crawl historian 21:49:18 PleasingFungus? 21:49:29 tormentor pain is not high on the list I think 21:49:36 quokkas and orbs of fire ("swords") came from "Chronicles of an Age of Darkness". there was another monster, since removed, that was a reference to that series. 21:49:37 doesn't summon eyeballs get gooes 21:49:42 what was it? I honestly cannot remember. 21:49:46 PleasingFungus: dorgi 21:49:51 yess! 21:49:51 thank you 21:49:51 golden eyes and cacos seem the main things atm 21:49:55 which is fine I guess 21:49:58 PleasingFungus: YOU ARE VIOLATING AREA SECURITY!!! 21:49:59 oh gooe 21:50:13 yeah those, but good luck for them getting a lof 21:50:14 <|amethyst> I thought quokkas come from Rottnest Island 21:50:16 -!- Blomdor has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:50:22 same with cacos ofc 21:50:29 anyhow, it's A Thing 21:50:41 golden eyes are pretty much good enough 21:50:51 player can wear clarity, but then they get no rmut 21:51:35 |amethyst: quokkas were originally described as having "nanotechnological manipulators" 21:51:46 ... 21:51:48 which is a reference to the http://nemaloknig.info/read-79556/?page=63 (bottom of page) 21:52:03 s/the // 21:52:11 has anyone built dcss as a static binary? 21:54:33 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: I had wondered where that line came from 21:54:34 that sounds like it would be huge 21:55:02 |amethyst: I was very surprised when google found it for me! 21:55:19 PleasingFungus: what! 21:55:21 I'd always imagined the quokka themselves had like... mechanical arms growing out of their backs 21:55:30 this way is less cool :( 21:55:43 (actually I think I have a copy of at least one of those books here somewhere!) 21:55:48 checkers: for which target? 21:56:24 i always figured quokkas were there just because Australia 21:56:39 johnny0: linux64 21:56:43 I strongly suspect that is why they were added *back*, after being removed. 21:57:00 you can't cut back on marsupials! you will regret this!!! 21:57:08 * Grunt paves over PleasingFungus. 21:57:15 ok 21:57:18 crushing..... 21:57:26 going to try the other compiling method 21:57:28 !crush PleasingFungus 21:57:29 Grunt beats PleasingFungus like a drum!!!!! 21:57:29 msys 21:58:03 CanOfWorms: sincere suggestion: get a free ec2 instance and compile there 21:58:17 unless you want to play a self-compiled version of crawl, I guess 21:58:22 idk what your goals are 21:58:30 (for dev I would recommend the instance) 21:58:31 messing around with the code mostly 21:58:37 ya so ok. 21:58:44 what is an ec2 instance though? 21:58:47 where's the crawl corruption videos 21:59:05 (...hmm, what can even support being corrupted, tiles?) 21:59:46 CanOfWorms: amazon cloud 21:59:47 CanOfWorms: amazon ec2 provides a free VPS for 1yr 21:59:49 http://aws.amazon.com/ec2 21:59:56 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 21:59:56 -!- wheals has quit [Client Quit] 22:00:01 (dang we're helpful) 22:00:04 the idea is: don't compile in cygwin 22:00:17 checkers: i have not and wouldn't be surprised if other haven't either 22:01:11 -!- Milski has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:01:20 I mean, msys might work - it did for me 22:01:23 but it's really not great 22:02:00 johnny0: yeah, I'm having trouble doing it naively. was hoping it'd be a trivial makefile change that I didn't get 22:02:03 it's either that, cygwin or visual studio? 22:02:08 checkers: generally dealing with pthread/dl links is the big trouble -- it's not trivial 22:02:19 i think i got this git thing figured out 22:02:25 uh oh 22:02:27 roctavian: show us. :) 22:02:32 * gammafunk ducks 22:02:35 johnny0: oh i'm not looking to cross compile 22:02:40 * Grunt gets ready to pull the fire alarm...... 22:02:50 i *think* i just pushed the commit where i moved my name in credits.txt 22:02:53 wow, way to build confidence - NOT! (in borat voice) 22:02:55 roctavian: try this: 22:02:56 you did 22:02:59 that was @ grunt 22:02:59 %git 22:02:59 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.16-a0-1560-gd57a44a: Don't call a cutlass a rapier (Grunt) 10(19 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=d57a44a467d1 22:03:00 http://s-z.org/cgi-bin/cheipoke 22:03:02 well 22:03:05 (you did) 22:03:14 03John McCartney02 07* 0.16-a0-1561-g7bde4d5: Moved name in CREDITS.txt. 10(6 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=7bde4d5d20da 22:03:17 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 22:03:17 roctavian: if you want Chei to announce a commit sooner rather than later, hit that link 22:03:19 -!- mkbehr has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:03:21 aha 22:03:26 good! 22:03:28 good to know 22:03:31 todo: add roct to mailmap 22:03:31 checkers: well, every lib that needs pthread/dl you need to pass an undefined check to the linker 22:03:33 ...now we need to put you in mailmap :) 22:03:35 (I'll do that) 22:03:39 Roctavian, I feel bad saying this, but I still have a hard time believing that's your real name. 22:03:45 ask roctavian to add himself! 22:03:59 That is the exact name that someone would give when asked for a fake name. 22:04:01 i'd send a scan of my drivers license, but that'd be weird 22:04:02 -!- theTower has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:04:05 haha 22:04:15 PleasingFungus: why did you ask Grunt what it was when i told you EXPLICITLY what they were in the cyc thread 22:04:16 roctavian: add a scan of your driver's license to the repository, please 22:04:26 !banish gammafunk 22:04:27 Grunt casts a spell. gammafunk is devoured by a tear in reality! 22:04:28 johnny0: sorry, my C ninja skills are crap -- how would I theoretically do that? 22:04:29 geez 22:04:34 credit card, social security number, passport 22:04:42 all in the repo 22:04:42 wheals: yes, that is definitely a thing that you did 22:04:46 "[20:01] halberd if gloorx is unable to breathe does that mean he can't cast spells?" 22:05:03 when can he breathe? 22:05:10 this is wrt water elementals 22:05:15 so presumably phial of floods 22:05:22 I assume the answer is "no, he can still cast spells" 22:05:27 CanOfWorms: I'm still trying out some stuff with sdl1.2 and cygwin btw -- i tried against crawl's sdl and failed but i'm going to try with vanilla sdl1.2 22:05:32 -!- Textmode has joined ##crawl-dev 22:06:08 alright 22:06:10 -!- MgDark has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:06:11 i guess it's weird that he can breathe miasma 22:06:11 if he can't breathe 22:06:12 checkers: you need to check out the order of libraries in the Makefile and choose which ones to statically link and which ones to dynamically link 22:06:17 so far msys hasn't messed up 22:06:39 I blame demon magic 22:06:45 03Grunt02 07* 0.16-a0-1562-geaa203c: Add roctavian to mailmap. 10(37 seconds ago, 1 file, 2+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=eaa203c5d9e7 22:06:47 johnny0: ah, ugh 22:06:48 Gloorx Vloq (15&) | Spd: 20 | HD: 16 | HP: 350 | AC/EV: 10/10 | Dam: 45 | 05demonic, 10doors, fighter, evil, see invisible, lev | Res: 13magic(immune), 02cold, 10elec++, 03poison, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 12453 | Sp: poison arrow (3d23), miasma breath (3d13), s.torment, b.draining (3d23), dispel undead (3d25) | Sz: Large | Int: high. 22:06:48 %??gloorx vloq 22:06:48 you mean demon ichor 22:06:54 %git HEAD^ 22:06:54 07roctavian02 * 0.16-a0-1561-g7bde4d5: Moved name in CREDITS.txt. 10(10 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=7bde4d5d20da 22:06:56 good 22:07:14 -!- theTower has joined ##crawl-dev 22:07:20 !log * killer=bennu tmsg~~from_afar 22:07:20 1. Zig, XL27 HEFi, T:115965: http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/Zig/morgue-Zig-20141010-155741.txt 22:07:34 ?/blown up by lich 22:07:34 Matching entries (1): blown_up_by[5]: nubinia the Metallomancer (L24 GrVM of Vehumet), blown up by lich on Crypt:5 (cryptofortress_bobbens) on 2013-12-06 19:11:12, with 491508 points after 95842 turns and 18:38:32 22:07:36 checkers: i mean, you can check the makefile and see if there's a static link flag set for some targets (like windows) and try to pass that flag to make 22:08:01 but the target exec will probably fail to link 22:09:15 hrm, well mnoleg's tentacles get converted to ghosts 22:09:28 imo make them wither and die 22:09:29 is there a way to make them just poof ? 22:09:34 (particularly if they are "it" first) 22:10:18 Grunt: well I need to AXED_MONS them, no? 22:10:27 gammafunk: yes 22:10:41 johnny0: indeed. oh well 22:10:52 so since they've been axed, can I remove them 22:11:14 gammafunk: I really wouldn't worry too much; I don't think people are going to be saving and quitting while fighting Mnoleg <_< 22:11:20 yeah probably 22:11:32 but I checked save compat! let it be noted! 22:11:58 -!- wheals has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 22:13:11 !send gammafunk chaos 22:13:12 Sending chaos to gammafunk. 22:13:29 (hm what all do we have in the way of 'chaotic' creatures anyway) 22:13:31 PleasingFungus: I see a minor issue with the short blades tweak. In food.des the vault hangedman_ranch always has a falchion or a short sword of flaming to fight its hydra. Since short swords can no longer chop hydra heads, that vault should either guarantee the falchion or replace the short sword with a hand axe of flaming to preserve the intent. 22:13:43 sure 22:13:50 hand axe 22:13:57 (also, man, what was I thinking) 22:13:58 Hand axe sounds like a better option, yes. 22:14:03 hand axe of flaming should be just as effective as a short sword 22:14:06 vs hydra 22:14:40 why is there a rapier/cutlass/sabre sitting around? 22:14:46 not flaming, just... there 22:14:54 it's loot, I guess? 22:15:05 hmm, has anyone thought about making a vault maker in DCSS? 22:15:07 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 22:15:12 the stupid implication is that it's a hydra head farm 22:15:24 as an option in the main game 22:15:28 -!- JayDoubleU has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:15:29 they feed it the sheep and yaks 22:15:29 Probably for thematic reasons since the kobolds seem to be chopping the heads for food? except the rapier doesn't chop anymore either 22:16:00 what's a choppy thing 22:16:14 a PleasingFungus. 22:16:18 ...or is that more of a "to be chopped" thing 22:16:19 canofworms: while in-game integration would solve a lot of problems I have with the current vault makers it would not be much further from being basically tiles notepad >_> 22:16:21 CanOfWorms: seems like it'd be a nice project ;) 22:16:22 fr rename SPELL_MIASMA_BREATH SPELL_BAD_BREATH 22:16:25 Grunt: rude! 22:16:30 CanOfWorms: yeah there is a very very primitive one, but it'd be a lot of work 22:16:30 wheals: only if it inflicts status effects too!!!! 22:16:36 ?/vaultedit 22:16:37 Matching terms (1): vaultedit; entries (2): vaultedit[1]: Webtiles meets vault making: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/15495351/vaultedit/vaultedit.htm | vaultedit[2]: hangedman's todos: update shown features, tiles; allow putting in text and seeing the vaultedit load that vault; direct links to vault philosophy guides shown for newcomers; dragging around tiles display, expanding it; hovertooltips??; 22:16:40 ??vaultedit 22:16:40 vaultedit[1/2]: Webtiles meets vault making: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/15495351/vaultedit/vaultedit.htm 22:16:45 I've made a map editor for a different game in python 22:16:58 a halberd seems like a good tool for chopping hydra heads.g 22:16:58 ood reach. 22:17:05 like, thematically. not so much in practice in game. 22:17:06 aha 22:17:11 theTower: just make monster hydras to eat monsters like player ones can and make the sheep true_neutral 22:17:13 -!- kekekela has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:17:24 Well the above is one noodl made, and of course a better one would be welcome by many 22:17:31 <|amethyst> what did you mean by "hand axe of flaming should be just as effective as a short sword"? 22:17:36 -!- Gobbo has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 22:17:54 |amethyst: neither are great anti-hydra weapons 22:17:59 I would caution that there's a lot about vaults that doesn't make much sense until you get used to it by making plenty >_> 22:18:09 though admittedly the short sword is at least faster 22:18:11 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: and a falchion is? 22:18:16 of course not! 22:18:26 I've read a few files, including ones containing... regexes? some kind of metacode? 22:18:27 When it's flaming sure :q 22:18:35 CanOfWorms: lua, probably 22:18:36 :) 22:18:39 theTower: imo vaults should make sense to non-vault makers 22:18:54 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: with the axe, at least you don't have to damage them down to 0 :) 22:19:01 yes, but the higher priority is for vaults to do what they're supposed to 22:19:02 http://puu.sh/clCYi/89c880663f.png 22:19:04 :( 22:19:15 oh, you mean like eventing? 22:19:31 <|amethyst> CanOfWorms: the __git_ps1 isn't coming from Crawl 22:19:37 <|amethyst> CanOfWorms: err, from the build 22:19:41 ok 22:19:42 wheals: should c++ make sense to non-c++ programmers? 22:19:44 lua events should be a 1/100th of normal vault design and I don't think you need to bother with that for an editor 22:19:47 (yes) 22:19:54 (:P) 22:20:07 hmm 22:20:09 (no) 22:20:26 -!- ZRN has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 22:20:33 although imagine an in-game vault editor.... 22:20:36 -!- tensorpudding has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 22:20:43 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:20:50 like, it would already be a really big thing to be able to display subst / nsubst / shuffle 22:21:13 yeah it's not really a task that's worth the effort, probably 22:21:20 such randomized substitution are central aspects you have to cut your eyes in half to get 22:22:42 fr: you have to understand all of the original pleasuredromes NSUBST before you can make a vault 22:22:54 pfff 22:23:06 vaults_vault, at most 22:23:15 wait a minute 22:23:24 did crawl successfully compile or not 22:23:25 <|amethyst> FR: you have to understand ray.cc before you can write C++ for Crawl 22:23:32 I have an executable in my source folder that runs? 22:23:37 <|amethyst> CanOfWorms: it sounded like it, yes 22:23:41 oh 22:23:42 :toot: 22:23:47 welp, time for me to never write c++ for crawl again 22:23:54 |amethyst: .....dang 22:24:00 time to learn the ropes for real then :v 22:24:01 |amethyst: s/ray.cc/beam.cc/ 22:24:06 beeem 22:24:52 I bet I would barely or not even pass |amethyst's CS class 22:25:01 <|amethyst> Grunt: I feel like I understand beam.cc better than ray.cc 22:25:06 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 22:25:52 !rng ign evoc brand spldsc 22:25:53 The RNG chooses: brand. 22:25:56 aw 22:26:01 !rng ign evoc spldsc 22:26:01 The RNG chooses: both ign and spldsc. 22:26:05 ..... 22:26:07 mmm 22:26:21 <|amethyst> gammafunk: I think you'd be fine... hardest assignment I've given is Boggle 22:26:30 fine, I guess I'll just do the one I actually wanted to do all along. 22:26:37 is it powders?? 22:26:54 sorry :( 22:26:59 ;_; 22:27:05 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.16-a0-1563-g9524d84: Adjust hangedman_ranch (magicpoints) 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=9524d845af0f 22:27:19 (three votes required to get context of that exchange) 22:27:58 wait sbl doesnt cut heads now? 22:28:08 ya 22:28:41 hmm, gotta update all of the weapon entries i just did 22:28:45 hahaha 22:28:45 ??rapier 22:28:45 I don't have a page labeled rapier in my learndb. 22:28:54 ??sabre 22:28:54 cutlass[1/1]: (short blades; +4 acc / 7 dam / 1.2 base delay / 0.5 min delay). A broad curved short sword. 22:28:57 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:29:05 ??sabre 22:29:05 sabre[1/1]: see {cutlass} 22:29:09 !learn del sabre 22:29:09 Deleted sabre[1/1]: see {cutlass} 22:29:15 PleasingFungus: should arc blade be a cutlass or a rapier 22:29:20 I'm leaning towards the latter 22:29:32 Grunt: imo it should be a sabre 22:29:33 <_< 22:29:35 Grunt: double dagger 22:29:35 >_> 22:29:42 (lightsabre!!!!) 22:29:42 PleasingFungus: yes, but we don't have a proper sabre right now <3 22:29:43 <|amethyst> !learn edit chops_hydra_heads[1] s/, cutlasses/and cutlasses in <=0.15/ 22:29:44 chops hydra heads[1/1]: all long blades; all axes; player Claws 3 or dragonform; high-base-damage claws of large monsters; blade hands; short swordsand cutlasses in <=0.15; halberds, glaives, scythes, and bardiches 22:29:54 (canofworms, just out of curiousity, do you understand the subst/nsubst/shuffle in... hmm. hangedman_slaughterboxes in dat/des/variable/encompass.des ?) 22:29:55 <|amethyst> !learn edit chops_hydra_heads[1] s/rdsan/rds an/ 22:29:55 chops hydra heads[1/1]: all long blades; all axes; player Claws 3 or dragonform; high-base-damage claws of large monsters; blade hands; short swords and cutlasses in <=0.15; halberds, glaives, scythes, and bardiches 22:30:10 thetower: no, I just skimmed the files 22:30:13 TYPE: sabre 22:30:15 OBJ: OBJ_WEAPONS/WPN_CUTLASS 22:30:17 maximum confusion..... 22:30:28 also I honestly forgot the arc blade was a sabre/rapier/cutlass 22:30:46 would be a good start, I think, in a stupid way 22:30:47 it's just ARC BLADE 22:30:47 <3 22:31:12 now that I got crawl compiling I am going to mess around with the code a bit first 22:31:16 theTower: throwing him into the deep end? 22:31:27 CanOfWorms: if no one else has pointed you to docs/develop/levels/*, uh 22:31:29 I did say stupid 22:31:33 I am 22:31:55 aha 22:31:55 "stupid I am" 22:31:56 >_> 22:32:05 <_< 22:32:22 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 22:32:39 I am now racking my brain for an actually good demonstration of subst/etc 22:32:41 -!- Poncheis has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91 [Firefox 32.0.3/20140923175406]] 22:32:52 theTower: temple has some simple vaults 22:32:52 hall_of_Zot 22:32:54 * Grunt flees in terror. 22:32:55 spin_cycle 22:33:08 nice, i found a green flail on the ground 22:33:14 oh, someone else was reporting that 22:33:19 yeah i saw that 22:33:29 honestly it took me several tries over several months to actually realize the extremely stupid way hall_of_zot places traps 22:33:32 apparently he uses the default rc 22:33:39 simmarine: if it persists over save/reload, imo dump the save 22:33:40 !!! 22:33:46 in my defense it was highly re-directed 22:33:53 -!- read has quit [Quit: brb] 22:33:59 PleasingFungus: ...it doesnt, but it shifted to the second item 22:34:06 ! 22:34:07 a flail; a scale mail 22:34:08 to a scale mail; a flail 22:34:09 save and load again 22:34:14 simmarine: green name or glyph? 22:34:17 green name 22:34:20 ahh 22:34:24 now its just a regular flail but its always second 22:34:25 !seen ontoclasm 22:34:26 I last saw ontoclasm at Wed Oct 22 02:56:23 2014 UTC (38m 2s ago) saying 'i always figured quokkas were there just because Australia' on ##crawl-dev. 22:34:26 I've been getting that with bucklers 22:34:35 I think it was twice now 22:34:40 of course, actually seeing things regularly helps more than going to somewhere new and &^R&{&D while looking at the source 22:34:57 so, uh, hangedman_lair_in_review >_> 22:35:20 Grunt: I am like 90% sure that making the arc blade a sabre would have exactly no effects on the game 22:35:47 -!- read has joined ##crawl-dev 22:35:55 like, neither visible nor mechanical 22:36:13 PleasingFungus: the driving question here is: 22:36:17 should arc blade chop hydra heads or not 22:36:21 on the other hand, the cutlass/rapier thing is meaningful. I feel like it should probably be a rapier, just to eliminate confusion 22:36:27 yeah hall_of_zot is pretty weird 22:36:30 since there's no reason to think it would be different from base type 22:36:39 (whereas the cutlass has 'cut' in the name!!!) 22:37:01 hall_of_zot could place dart traps for some time after they were removed 22:37:17 03gammafunk02 07* 0.16-a0-1564-gd9cffea: Replace Mnoleg's tentacles with branded attacks and Malign Gateway 10(45 minutes ago, 9 files, 19+ 76-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=d9cffead4374 22:37:21 some day I will clean up the most important vault 22:38:04 gammafunk: what, no attack verb abuse?? 22:38:11 theTower: feel free! 22:38:19 claw, kick, tentacle-slap, uh. 22:38:29 gammafunk: for the record, the other tentacle problem is area spells 22:38:30 punch 22:38:38 I thought about it, but got all paranoid about save compat 22:38:39 what do klowns do 22:38:41 redundant with claw! 22:38:44 all the level 9s, for example, get multiplied several times over by tentacles 22:38:44 in the sense that I got distracted 22:38:47 at_klown is... complicated 22:38:54 eyegouge, bananapeeltoss 22:38:57 PleasingFungus: yeah that's another thing I'm going to do 22:39:07 fairly easy to fix that, I hope 22:39:11 ??gammafunk 22:39:11 gammafunk[1/9]: TODO: make monster color inherit when possible, grand avatar movement bug, mnoleg fast tentacles, make mnoleg tentacle heads shove through X when possible, reduce damage done to tentacle head to 1/3 and Kraken hp to 2/3, monster ranged always going through allies 22:39:35 <|amethyst> simmarine: you're not with ash or anything are you? 22:39:44 no, i actually just got the problem again 22:39:46 if you wanna look 22:40:11 -!- Lasty_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:40:18 <|amethyst> oh, not just green but lightgreen 22:40:23 yes 22:40:24 <|amethyst> stranger and stranger 22:40:27 !learn edit gammafunk[1] s|, mnoleg fast.+possible|| 22:40:27 gammafunk[1/9]: TODO: make monster color inherit when possible, grand avatar movement bug, reduce damage done to tentacle head to 1/3 and Kraken hp to 2/3, monster ranged always going through allies 22:40:30 headbutt, tentacle slap, tail slap, trample, trunk slap, hit, punch, kick, claw, gore, bite, peck, constrict, pounce, sting, spore, engulf, reaching sting, touch 22:40:39 (cherub heads) 22:40:47 You hear a low. 22:40:55 going to... go with... bite?... 22:40:56 and then when i reload, its back to regular (well, green in this case because its known to not be cursed) 22:41:59 wow 22:42:09 Mnoleg can now fairly consistently defeat Cerebov. 22:42:20 amazing 22:42:23 what ratio 22:42:31 24-6 22:42:37 brutal..... 22:42:37 actually, I have to ask what the hierarchy is now 22:42:38 ....shit 22:42:52 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.16-a0-1565-g26b3dde: Turn the Arc Blade into a rapier (Grunt) 10(41 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=26b3dded08fc 22:42:58 (let's get fightclub updated and broadcast the results......) 22:43:00 but can it kill players 22:43:16 Gloorx is kind of underpowered against the other panlords as you might guess... 22:43:17 cerebov has 650 health and 30/8 defenses 22:43:20 well lom is like 2:1 vs cere almost 22:43:22 roctavian: i'm here 22:43:47 players... have a bit more ev sometimes 22:43:52 Mnoleg v Lom is 15-15 22:43:53 wow 22:43:57 ontoclasm: i was wondering where i look at stuff for weapon placement on enemy tiles 22:43:58 good 22:44:03 I killed him with a triple sword of holy wrath and like 50/30 22:45:03 and I wasn't hasted or mighted or anything 22:45:07 roctavian: tilemcache.cc 22:45:21 and I was using the jorgmungandr tiles 22:45:23 there's a giant switch statement for weapons and another for shields 22:45:28 -!- fridurmus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:45:29 or however that's spelled 22:45:29 yeesh, finally got the tiles stuff to build under cygwin 22:45:48 ontoclasm: cool. i'm gonna try to do these new draconian tiles 22:45:53 !!! 22:45:57 gammafunk: jrmungandr 22:45:57 ! 22:45:59 will they finally not have body armou? 22:46:16 maybe not tiamat yet because that's something else 22:46:22 Grunt: one must omit the umlaut for tile_player_tile though! 22:46:31 they will be like... 22:46:31 gammafunk: rip....... 22:46:42 <3 22:46:54 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:47:09 http://imgur.com/2quuTj8 22:47:14 gammafunk: you realise that you are going to generate interest for actually bringing back the unique design, right 22:47:26 Grunt: nothing wrong with that! 22:47:53 where's the uniques for the branches without them before branches get duplicate unique uniques??? 22:48:16 unless jorgy is teaching vaults dragons proper dragoning or something 22:48:17 (fr the vault overlord) 22:49:13 make jorgmungandr have a ironheart preserver riding him 22:49:14 it is taking the process of elimination to remember one of these 22:49:42 tiamat, knight, shifter, annihilator, scorcher, monk, [caller?], [zealot?] 22:49:52 jormungandr, dangit 22:50:37 they are better than the current ones, though, certainly 22:50:45 need to make tile_player_tile work with e.g. mons:red draconian shifter and mons:gelid black sun 22:50:57 roctavian: the basic draconians are a little silly looking. something about the egyptian pose, the hard side-on grin...? 22:51:04 I do like the new clothes, tho 22:51:28 the hardon grin? 22:51:46 !shatter gammafunk 22:51:46 theTower gestures wildly while chanting. The dungeon rumbles around theTower! gammafunk shudders from the earth-shattering force. 22:51:55 reptiles have such animalistic minds, going around with hardon grins on their faces all the time 22:51:56 Ouch, that really hurt! 22:53:05 i feel the side-on look keeps the tiles uncomplex, though i could mess around some more 22:53:41 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 22:54:00 i feel like making them 3/4 view will add more problems than it solves 22:54:49 yeah draconian tiles are busy because of the head + color + class.... 22:55:30 pleasingfungus, did you do the dith no longer hates corona thing 22:55:33 yes 22:55:36 i love the caller's wicked david-bowie collar 22:55:45 so, there's no reason to be guilty about doing corona, right 22:55:49 yes? 22:56:01 guess what source of corona still has a "guilty" clause 22:56:03 ontoclasm: it might be horrible but i kind of think high collars could be the motif for caller enemies 22:56:05 the one with the egyption like armour is which? 22:56:11 haha 22:56:12 roctavian: idk. maybe see if you can make sure the edge between head and wing is clear; the purple, red, and especially grey kind of have the left wing blend into the head a bit too much 22:56:18 roctavian: I approve!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 22:56:20 did egyptians wear much armor 22:56:21 simple is an acceptable goal, tho. 22:56:21 all summoners are from the eighties 22:56:41 those are not very old mummies then 22:56:41 well it's vaguely egyptian to me eyes 22:56:53 (pleasingfungus: enchantments miscasts) 22:56:54 *my 22:57:05 -!- hauzer has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:57:35 pleasingfungus: that is good feedback, and i'll darken the back wings on those ones 22:57:49 so I'm guessing those are zealots? in any case the armours are cool 22:57:56 bloax wanted some more chiaroscuro on all of these, but... i'm thinking they're fine without 22:57:59 theTower: ahh! 22:58:02 nice 22:58:09 zealots are green like priests 22:58:15 you can, of course, guess why I'm there. 22:58:21 since that's something i hear people complain about occasionaly 22:58:35 sorry, don't have it in front of me, I just remember wondering what those jeweled ones were 22:58:51 isn't the "jeweled" one tiamat 22:58:52 too many dracs on the dance floor.... 22:58:54 oh 22:59:00 that would make *sense* 22:59:34 rip mistaking tiamat for an ordinary drac 22:59:34 rip 22:59:46 rip 22:59:51 (good Sequell) 23:00:04 i'm not 100% on the tiamat tile tbh 23:00:11 but it's good! 23:00:53 anything to avoid the "oh no that is tiamat" thing, but it looks nice to me 23:00:55 yeah, but i'm not entirely sure about the color choices 23:01:08 i can let it sit around 23:01:10 * gammafunk throws up his hands. Artists! 23:01:16 CanOfWorms: so yeah, in order to get tiles to compile on a cygwin host you'd need to compile and install a patched SDL1.2 + SDL_Image as system libs (and then set up your PKG_CONFIG_PATH and such as necessary) 23:01:19 -!- Krakhan has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 23:01:27 you have no idea how much half-made shit i leave around 23:01:42 when do we get to throw our hands up and curse programmers 23:01:51 any time you like 23:01:55 or is that what the WHEEEEEAAAAAALLSSSSS GRUUUUUUUUUUNT thing about 23:02:13 RIGGGGS 23:03:15 <|amethyst> aha 23:03:21 <|amethyst> figured out the green thing 23:03:23 ! 23:03:33 <|amethyst> blaming 23:04:18 oh well, guess I'll stick with msys for now 23:05:15 <|amethyst> %git 4346b270 23:05:16 07wheals02 * 0.16-a0-1381-g4346b27: Redraw quiver when a rod charges up. 10(2 days ago, 3 files, 9+ 3-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=4346b270f573 23:05:56 well, this is going to be a fun message writing project, since I'm not too good at this 23:06:20 geeze, looking at tentacle code just makes me want to remove tentacles 23:06:23 "You are crushed and pinned by an extremely strong localised spatial distortion!" doesn't exactly get the dimensional anchor part I'm adding across 23:09:25 just print the same message that you'd get in real life. 23:10:43 "Space itself locks you in a Boston crab hold!" 23:11:01 ! 23:11:02 fr: 23:11:22 03|amethyst02 07* 0.16-a0-1566-gb128afd: Don't treat floor items as quivered (#9063) 10(4 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=b128afdc0ff1 23:11:38 haha 23:12:10 hrm, If I'm dividing a damage by 3, is the correct thing to div_rand_round()? 23:12:20 "The draconian monk slams you in a sudden RKO!" 23:12:35 maybe the zangief pile driver 23:12:50 spinning piledriver 23:12:57 that's for crushers 23:13:02 gammafunk: context 23:13:15 PleasingFungus: damage from tentacle child to tentacle head 23:13:22 shall be 1/3 of damage done to tentacle child 23:13:44 <|amethyst> I'm not sure that's the appropriate fix 23:13:50 <|amethyst> sure, it fixes AOE 23:13:57 <|amethyst> but it also makes meleeing a kraken a lot harder 23:14:03 we're reducing its hp 23:14:09 <|amethyst> ah 23:14:10 to 2/3 23:14:22 (2/3 of an hp) 23:14:22 ahh, 1/3rd 23:14:26 last I heard was 1/2 23:14:28 when this last came up 23:14:39 no it was 1/3 when talking with e-dog 23:14:56 but regardless of fraction, div_random_round? 23:14:57 E DOG 23:15:03 the e-meister 23:15:13 <|amethyst> P-Fung 23:15:14 honestly it's probably fine to just divide there; you aren't worried about magic breakpoints of damage 23:15:18 since that's highly random anyway 23:15:22 ok 23:15:36 you're going to bias it slightly downward, since integer division, but w/e 23:15:50 not like 1/3 was a precise thing anyway 23:15:51 <|amethyst> but what if you can only do 2 damage per hit? 23:15:57 |amethyst: rip 23:16:30 sounds like a gammafunk HESu is trying to melee a kraken 23:16:38 bad idea 23:17:35 yeah I was more concerned about what's typically done, but was obviously too lazy to check I guess 23:17:44 <|amethyst> probably div_rand_round 23:17:52 yeah why not I guess 23:18:30 follow your heart. 23:18:47 <|amethyst> follow Xom 23:18:49 (new deferred_damage_fineff(oppressor, &menv[number], head_damage, false))->schedule() 23:18:54 pleasingfungus will I avoid any form problems by using "Your limbs" 23:19:00 wisp form 23:19:04 damnit 23:19:14 I swear I tried to do this once (new an object and call a method in the same line) and it didn't work 23:19:15 hey 23:19:21 a wispy limb of vapor is still a limb!!! 23:19:22 <|amethyst> I should really do something about that call syntax 23:19:24 in a sense 23:19:28 <|amethyst> gammafunk: did you use the parentheses 23:19:29 good enough 23:19:33 PleasingFungus: you're really going out on a limb with that one 23:19:38 there's also jelly form, but that doesn't actually exist 23:19:42 ...maybe not? I gave up and did something else 23:19:44 <|amethyst> gammafunk: IIRC they're necessary (unlike in, say, Perl) 23:20:06 like, even moreso than wisp form 23:20:06 ("Your limbs sag and ache horribly?" "Your limbs wobble like jelly"?) 23:20:16 <|amethyst> I need to improve that fineff syntax 23:20:17 good connector there 23:20:17 jelly is funny 23:20:34 like the proverbial jelly 23:20:59 monsters do not always have limbs though 23:21:53 The monster wobbles like jelly! 23:22:03 -!- NotKintak has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 23:22:15 of course, if it is a jelly, it should be the proverbial jelly.... 23:22:18 but what if a chaos miscast is applying such weakness to an actual je 23:22:24 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.16-a0-1567-g88f9af1: Cleanup 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=88f9af17cf7c 23:22:24 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.16-a0-1568-ga62d67f: Reveal a secret mechanic 10(62 seconds ago, 5 files, 61+ 16-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=a62d67f4a134 23:22:26 yes that 23:22:26 but that's a bonus feature :) 23:22:26 to be implemented later 23:22:26 <|amethyst> theTower: would you say those messages should then be sublimbinal? 23:22:48 mm 23:22:52 ("FORSAKE MAGIC") 23:23:13 PleasingFungus: tune into elliptic's game for a moment 23:23:18 PleasingFungus: and spot the bug 23:23:18 !locate elliptic 23:23:19 elliptic was last seen on CSZO (elliptic, L12 HaWr of Ashenzari). 23:23:32 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:23:35 hm 23:23:37 flesh 23:23:43 interesting. 23:23:43 <|amethyst> yeah 23:23:46 <|amethyst> one of those is poison 23:23:52 oh, that's not a bug 23:23:54 well 23:23:55 it's sort of a bug 23:24:00 I suppose strictly speaking orange demons just make monsters "look weaker" 23:24:01 the merging isn't a bug, but the name is. 23:24:03 I can fix it. 23:24:03 <|amethyst> it should probably keep the name even if you're immune 23:24:05 <|amethyst> ohh 23:24:06 yes 23:24:16 what tmut spells can monsters even cast 23:24:19 <|amethyst> I thought that was a controversial feature, not a bug :) 23:24:20 yeah maybe I will go with 1/2 damage 23:24:22 localized ignite poison 23:24:27 IMO bug 23:24:43 like imagine the player who only ever plays species with rPois 23:24:48 no yes of course it's a bug 23:24:56 I'm fixing it now 23:25:06 elliptic: since you're here, does 1/2 damage from tentacle/segment to kraken head with krakens having 2/3 hp sound good? 23:25:15 thought I'd fixed it in an earlier implementation (before it got merged into trunk); might be a regression 23:25:18 or I might have forgotten 23:25:30 though arguably I guess if the player is guaranteed to always have rPois then maybe the stacks should merge? 23:25:44 that is probably not worth the code cost though 23:25:54 I'd thought it was 1/3 damage, but even with 2/3 hp that's like them have 2x hp if you melee the tentacle 23:27:09 gammafunk: I don't really know what the numbers should be like 23:28:26 alright, I'll go with 1/2 then, since it's like they have 4/3 hp if you melee the tentacle only, which isn't too much higher (since we'll lower kraken hp to 2/3) 23:28:26 gammafunk: maybe this approach isn't even that great an idea, since it can't really help with "refrigeration/bolt spells/fireball destroys tentacled things" unless it also makes meleeing the tentacle really slow 23:29:15 yeah, well if you think that meleeing tentacles is already too slow 23:29:36 but it'd be like an effective 4/3 increase in kraken hp in the end 23:29:53 sorry, a 33% increase 23:30:09 I guess part of the point of the change was to help with mnoleg tentacles 23:30:18 well actually, mnoleg just lost them 23:30:22 and presumably mnoleg HP wouldn't be changed, so it would help with that 23:30:22 oh 23:30:44 well then I'm not sure there's that much point in the change 23:30:54 alright, that's a commit I can make 23:31:02 (do nothing) 23:31:26 if it is a 4/3 increase in kraken HP when meleeing tentacles, then it is also a 4/3 increase in kraken HP when bolt of firing 5 tentacle squares 23:31:37 so not a huge change 23:31:42 elliptic: the code cost wouldn't be too high; I may implement that at some point. the concern would be about weird inconsistencies between races 23:31:47 but probably that would be survivable 23:31:50 another gh buff..... 23:32:15 PleasingFungus: well, the idea would be that ghouls etc can't tell that the chunks are different 23:32:27 so they just throw them all in the same chunk bag 23:32:28 ya 23:32:35 mm 23:32:35 chunk slurries 23:32:42 likewise for gr 23:32:51 though they would still have mutagenic and necrotic chunks differentiated 23:32:56 the important thing anyway is that the chunks appear different when they don't merge 23:32:59 ya 23:33:03 I am implementing that as we speak 23:33:13 ??gammafunk 23:33:14 gammafunk[1/9]: TODO: make monster color inherit when possible, grand avatar movement bug, reduce damage done to tentacle head to 1/3 and Kraken hp to 2/3, monster ranged always going through allies 23:33:17 also refactoring! 23:33:47 !learn edit gammafunk[1] s|, reduce[^,]+|| 23:33:47 gammafunk[1/9]: TODO: make monster color inherit when possible, grand avatar movement bug, monster ranged always going through allies 23:34:22 I wish my todo was that short 23:34:32 you're more productive than I am 23:34:41 ha, ha, ha. 23:35:02 ??gammafunk[2] 23:35:02 gammafunk[2/9]: TODO-content: moon wizlab, depths encompass 23:35:17 theTower: any depths encompass ideas? 23:35:27 I have one but I can't really finish even the idea 23:35:32 1learn edit gammafunk[2] s/: m/: tomb subvaults, m/ 23:35:40 but... 23:36:33 !learn edit gammafunk[2] s|$|, tomb subvaults 23:36:33 gammafunk[2/9]: TODO-content: moon wizlab, depths encompass, tomb subvaults 23:36:59 I am sorry, I too have my own agenda for that area and it's "help with the 18 decorative vaults for every branch so every penultimate floor can have a decorative vault" project 23:37:28 sounds fun 23:37:46 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 23:38:08 (unique vaults, before somebody just makes 18 generic decorations >_>) 23:38:49 that hypothetical fiend! 23:39:10 -!- demiskeleton has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:39:21 hypothetical bolt, torment? 23:39:42 quite powerful.... 23:39:45 well, hypothetically. 23:39:49 -!- NilsBloodaxe has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:40:27 -!- nrook has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91 [Firefox 32.0.3/20140923175406]] 23:41:03 while I am doing this: should double-effect miscasts get two messages, or should both effects try to be described in one line 23:42:20 the latter seems like it might be a good way to go insane 23:42:25 how many are there of these? are there permutations? 23:42:36 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.16-a0-1569-g8de4130: Always name non-clean flesh correctly (elliptic) 10(48 seconds ago, 7 files, 44+ 16-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=8de4130263b0 23:43:02 about eleven, most are fixed (randomness can just be in effects themselves) 23:44:00 -!- SomeStupidGirl is now known as SomeStupidGuy 23:44:17 -!- ruwin has quit [] 23:44:48 alright 23:45:03 added a placeholder species :toot: 23:45:49 imo, do two messages for now; combinations can be done in a second pass, if they seem necessary 23:45:50 hmm... what coordinates are default equipment placement on the tile? 23:45:52 as long as that's simpler 23:46:00 alright then 23:46:10 CanOfWorms: nice! 23:46:19 That was the first thing I did when I started messing around, too :) 23:46:23 rip batrachians 23:46:24 roctavian: i'm not sure exactly but it feels like it's about (8, 16) 23:46:31 !seen gammafunk 23:46:31 I last saw gammafunk at Wed Oct 22 04:37:28 2014 UTC (9m 3s ago) saying 'sounds fun' on ##crawl-dev. 23:46:48 ontoclasm: cool. draconians have a different thing in tilemcache 23:46:59 hm 23:47:04 I will probably (gasp) actually use a branch for this, if only because miscasts are some of the most insidious things 23:47:23 i don't think it means anything different for what i'm trying to do 23:47:31 -!- fearitself has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:47:42 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.16-a0-1570-g17bccad: Fix non-clean chunk descriptions 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 12+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=17bccade11a0 23:47:53 roctavian: how bizarre, i never noticed that 23:47:56 i wonder why? 23:48:06 draconians are Very Special. 23:48:08 i imagine because of all the job tiles and whatever 23:48:36 oh, i bet its to align the job suit over the base 23:48:42 rather than the weapon 23:48:44 roctavian: ontoclasm: correct 23:49:15 hmm 23:49:19 draconian uniform reform 23:49:42 * ontoclasm takes a drag of his cigarette. "draconians, man" 23:50:02 -!- Bloax has quit [Quit: Error: Bloax not found] 23:50:02 dragon form uniform reform 23:52:08 what's the best way to test my offsets 23:52:52 roctavian: compile, start game, generate monster 23:53:07 i know how to do two of those things 23:53:21 ..which one is out :) 23:53:45 compile 23:53:56 make -j3 TILES=y 23:54:18 change the three to (number of cores you have)+1 23:54:51 hmm, I wonder if this is bad because nearly a 23:54:51 -!- Brannock has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:55:05 actually, sword of cerebov probably already makes orbs of fire lose an rF+ >_> 23:57:03 it says sh.exe": make: command not found 23:57:39 hrm 23:57:41 ah, you got the wrong git thing i think 23:57:58 orange crystal statue (048) | Spd: 6 (07stationary) | HD: 10 | HP: 70 | AC/EV: 12/1 | 11non-living | Res: 13magic(immune), 05fire++, 02cold++, 10elec++, 03poison++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | XP: 412 | Sp: magic dart (3d5) | Sz: Large | Int: high. 23:57:58 %??orange_crystal_statue spells:magic_dart 23:58:06 orange crystal statue (048) | Spd: 6 (07stationary) | HD: 10 | HP: 70 | AC/EV: 12/1 | 11non-living | Res: 13magic(immune), 05fire++, 02cold++, 10elec++, 03poison++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | XP: 412 | Sp: corrupting pulse | Sz: Large | Int: high. 23:58:06 %??orange_crystal_statue spells:corrupting_pulse 23:58:11 nice 23:58:29 what git should i have? 23:58:40 -!- Siegurt has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:58:41 let me look to make sure 23:59:13 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: shouldn't that be "necrotising"? 23:59:21 Not a monster spell: 'irradiate' 23:59:21 %??orange_crystal_statue spells:corrupting_pulse;irradiate 23:59:21 should it be 23:59:24 aw 23:59:25 oh. I guess 23:59:27 it's kind of both 23:59:41 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: I guess you removed the other necrotic stuff 23:59:41 brain storm might be after these miscasts 23:59:45 glowing statue? 23:59:48 roctavian: https://github.com/msysgit/msysgit/releases the one that says netinstall-1.9.4 23:59:50 (anybody else could make it, though!!) 23:59:54 Grunt: moon crystal statue or something! 23:59:58 <|amethyst> not suggesting the function actually be renamed, "necrotic" sounds nice