00:00:05 -!- bcarpe212 is now known as bcarpe211 00:01:33 Stable (0.15) branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.15.0-33-gdde9071 00:03:45 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.16-a0-395-g6404e95 (34) 00:05:07 gw just spotted a ghost behind glass in a sewer 00:05:11 (todo check which sewer) 00:06:06 Grunt: does gw have a breath weapon 00:06:15 Basil: apparently! 00:06:37 oh now gw has a crossbow 00:06:42 &dump gw 00:06:43 http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/morgue/gw/gw.txt 00:07:04 spit poison apparently 00:07:28 "let me focus here" 00:07:55 !lg gw max=xl 00:07:56 2117. gw the Warrior (L17 MiGl of Trog), blasted by a naga ritualist (Olgreb's Toxic Radiance) on Snake:5 (minmay_snake_end_coiled) on 2014-09-09 22:19:50, with 179476 points after 45406 turns and 0:51:13. 00:07:57 gw is trying hard to get Speed Demon II 00:08:22 !lm gw rune 00:08:23 No milestones for gw (rune). 00:08:27 rip 00:08:34 rip 00:08:44 !lm gw br.end~~^S 00:08:45 2. [2014-09-13 23:02:19] gw the Bludgeoner (L16 DDGl of Makhleb) reached level 5 of the Swamp on turn 30223. (Swamp:5) 00:08:48 !lm gw br.end~~^S -game 00:08:49 gw:cbro:20140813181403S. gw the Bludgeoner (L16 DDGl of Makhleb), blasted by Jorgrun (Shatter) on Swamp:5 on 2014-09-13 23:02:46, with 121760 points after 30436 turns and 0:49:23. 00:09:04 the creations of grunt 00:09:07 killing each other 00:09:25 fr Jorgwun 00:09:26 !gkills gw 00:09:27 154 kills by gw's ghost: 104x gw, 5x tedric, 5x zercules, 4x DrPain, 3x Phlounder, 2x jw, 2x sprout, 2x oshikia, 2x tizzy, 2x zoltan2357, 2x tkappleton, 2x nicksoapdish, athros, porpoise, shobalk, zeidrich, laceratedsky, dongtrain, Golfball, advil, mirefrost00, Kassandra, superterranean, Haifischqw, n1000, Sientara, Banei, MoogleDan, jinxplayer, shmup, jtron 00:09:30 -!- __miek has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:09:30 uses gw-tactics 00:09:39 haha, 104 gw 00:09:44 !lg n1000 killer~~gw 00:09:45 1. n1000 the Cudgeler (L6 HOAr), mangled by gw's ghost on D:4 on 2014-09-07 04:04:40, with 348 points after 4118 turns and 0:06:39. 00:09:50 dang 00:10:40 hm 00:10:43 !killratio sigmund gw t 00:10:45 sigmund wins 33.53% of battles against gw (t). 00:10:56 -!- ParallaxScroll has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:10:58 !killratio asterion * t 00:11:01 asterion wins 2.151% of battles against * (t). 00:11:03 !killratio vashnia * t 00:11:06 vashnia wins 7.422% of battles against * (t). 00:11:07 !killratio asterion gw t 00:11:09 asterion wins 100.0% of battles against gw (t). 00:11:12 !killratio vashnia gw t 00:11:12 !killratio natasha * t 00:11:13 Stable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.15.0-33-gdde9071 (34) 00:11:14 No battles for vashnia and gw (t). 00:11:17 natasha wins 3.051% of battles against * (t). 00:11:40 !killratio vashnia qw t 00:11:42 vashnia wins 33.33% of battles against qw (t). 00:11:45 mm 00:11:54 because qw doesn't know ~*~*~tactics~*~*~ <_< 00:12:00 !killratio asterion qw t 00:12:03 asterion wins 0.0% of battles against qw (t). 00:12:33 !lg bot ikiller=~crusher 00:12:34 2. qw the Executioner (L21 DDBe of Trog), thrown by an octopode crusher on Depths:4 (serial_bayou_shore_b) on 2014-09-08 20:53:41, with 335723 points after 40914 turns and 0:34:32. 00:12:41 no gw kill yet 00:12:48 but then has it made it to depths? 00:12:54 !lm gw br.enter=depths 00:12:55 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:12:55 No milestones for gw (br.enter=depths). 00:13:02 welp 00:13:04 gw hasn't even gotten a rune yet :( 00:13:15 could happen in shoals I guess 00:13:21 or does it go there yet 00:13:32 !lm gw br.enter s=br 00:13:33 546 milestones for gw (br.enter): 287x Temple, 98x Lair, 53x Sewer, 46x Ossuary, 20x IceCv, 14x Bailey, 13x Orc, 10x Volcano, 3x Snake, 2x Swamp 00:13:38 gw avoids Shoals until after Vaults theoretically 00:13:57 !lm gw br.exit=icecv 00:13:58 No milestones for gw (br.exit=icecv). 00:14:03 !lm gw br.enter=icecv 00:14:04 20. [2014-09-14 04:27:21] gw the Bludgeoner (L14 DDGl of Makhleb) entered an Ice Cave on turn 19762. (D:12) 00:14:11 ah, so never survived an ice cave? 00:14:20 Portal exits aren't logged. 00:14:23 right 00:14:26 !lm gw br.enter=icecv / place=icecv 00:14:27 20/20 milestones for gw (br.enter=icecv): N=20/20 (100.00%) 00:14:31 heh 00:14:33 er 00:14:35 !lm gw br.enter=icecv / lg.place=icecv 00:14:36 Unknown field: lg.place 00:14:40 !lm gw br.enter=icecv / lg:place=icecv 00:14:41 9/20 milestones for gw (br.enter=icecv): N=9/20 (45.00%) 00:14:44 that one 00:14:53 better than some players, probably 00:15:04 !lm * t br.enter=icecv / lg:place=icecv 00:15:07 255/2634 milestones for * (t br.enter=icecv): N=255/2634 (9.68%) 00:15:11 ouch 00:15:19 !lm qw br.enter=icecv / lg:place=icecv 00:15:20 0/2 milestones for qw (br.enter=icecv): N=0/2 (0.00%) 00:15:28 what 00:15:33 ...interesting 00:15:40 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.16-a0-395-g6404e95 (34) 00:15:46 oh it's been in only two 00:15:49 never died there? 00:16:16 !lm qw place=icecv 00:16:17 2. [2014-04-12 03:27:04] qw the Severer (L13 GrBe of Trog) entered an Ice Cave on turn 15592. (Lair:6) 00:16:20 hm 00:16:53 !lm gw br.enter=sewer / lg:place=sewer 00:16:54 5/53 milestones for gw (br.enter=sewer): N=5/53 (9.43%) 00:17:01 !lm gw br.enter=ossuary / lg:place=ossuary 00:17:02 6/46 milestones for gw (br.enter=ossuary): N=6/46 (13.04%) 00:20:18 gammafunk: yeah, console 00:31:41 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 00:32:52 hrm, that's unusual 00:33:01 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.16-a0-395-g6404e95 00:34:47 -!- SSG has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 00:40:23 -!- RedFeather has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 32.0.1/20140911151253]] 00:42:53 -!- xen has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:44:47 -!- __miek has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 00:46:39 -!- giganticus has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 00:47:39 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:57:41 -!- Kramin has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 00:57:41 -!- tcsc has quit [Quit: computer sleeping] 01:02:34 -!- Eraservedd has quit [Client Quit] 01:03:08 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:04:06 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:07:11 -!- superc has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:10:20 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 01:14:01 -!- Eraservedd has quit [Client Quit] 01:15:21 -!- tcsc has quit [Quit: computer sleeping] 01:16:22 -!- NilsBloodaxe has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:16:27 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 01:19:04 -!- gammafunk has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:21:43 -!- Zannick has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 01:22:50 -!- Zannick has joined ##crawl-dev 01:27:51 -!- \echo has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:28:28 -!- \echo has quit [Client Quit] 01:31:48 -!- backslashecho has quit [Client Quit] 01:34:02 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:34:34 -!- SSG has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:36:35 -!- Bloax has quit [Quit: Error: Bloax not found] 01:44:38 -!- schistosomatic has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:49:05 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:52:26 -!- Siegurt has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 01:55:48 -!- hauzer1 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:02:33 -!- markgo has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:03:07 -!- Wahaha__ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:04:52 -!- rchandra has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:07:53 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:08:36 -!- Laraso has quit [Quit: Laraso falls through a shaft! The shaft crumbles and collapses.] 02:11:09 -!- jefkin has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:18:33 Stable (0.15) branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.15.0-33-gdde9071 02:19:43 %git :/ithmenos 02:20:25 07Grunt02 * 0.15-a0-1767-gbec7adb: nicolae vaults (#8745). 10(3 months ago, 4 files, 302+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=bec7adb4a04f 02:20:25 ?? 02:20:47 %git :/mbra 02:20:47 07elliptic02 * 0.16-a0-394-g2fc8dfc: Add item clua: damage, accuracy, delay, ac, encumbrance. 10(9 hours ago, 1 file, 79+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=2fc8dfcef5ff 02:21:32 Does cherrypicking show up in the commit log? 02:21:41 -!- flowsnake has joined ##crawl-dev 02:23:13 -!- Cadet has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:25:11 read: do you mean the fact that a commit is produced by cherrypicking? 02:26:07 -!- flowsnake has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:26:31 Yes! 02:26:42 yes, it's added by default to the commit message 02:26:44 %git 900deee 02:26:44 07gammafunk02 * 0.15.0-32-g900deee: Make a slime entrance vault correctly place the Jiyva altar 10(4 hours ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=900deeecb4d2 02:26:48 recent example 02:26:56 Ah. 02:27:09 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.16-a0-395-g6404e95 (34) 02:29:52 -!- winsbury has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:32:39 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:33:15 -!- flowsnake has joined ##crawl-dev 02:37:22 -!- flowsnake has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:43:13 -!- flowsnake has joined ##crawl-dev 02:43:13 -!- flowsnake has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:43:43 -!- flowsnake has joined ##crawl-dev 02:48:29 -!- flowsnake has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 02:49:27 -!- Hailley has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:49:35 -!- rchandra has joined ##crawl-dev 02:53:03 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:53:15 -!- raskol` is now known as raskol 02:58:50 -!- Kaput_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:00:36 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 03:02:22 -!- Nstar has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 03:04:27 -!- alefury has joined ##crawl-dev 03:07:10 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 03:08:40 -!- hurdos has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:17:46 -!- kramell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:18:28 -!- Basil has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:18:54 -!- Basil has joined ##crawl-dev 03:21:29 -!- kramelltester has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:27:23 -!- kramelltester has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:28:48 -!- syllogism has joined ##crawl-dev 03:28:56 -!- kramelltester has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:29:30 -!- kramell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:30:10 -!- simmarine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:30:11 -!- rchandra has left ##crawl-dev 03:41:12 -!- Pepe has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:47:47 -!- Kramin has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 03:56:48 -!- demiskeleton has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:58:02 -!- Ragdoll has joined ##crawl-dev 04:10:35 -!- jacobian_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 04:16:40 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 04:19:20 -!- _D_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 04:37:36 -!- Wolfechu has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:40:35 -!- KurzedMetal has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:50:37 -!- hurdos has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 04:55:57 -!- Tedronai has joined ##crawl-dev 04:56:49 -!- Aryth has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 05:02:07 -!- raskol has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 05:02:24 -!- scummos| has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:07:35 -!- jacobian_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 05:14:41 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 05:15:11 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 05:19:20 -!- flowsnake has joined ##crawl-dev 05:22:29 -!- flowsnake has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:22:48 -!- flowsnake has joined ##crawl-dev 05:24:07 !tell wheals Can you explain why !lg glenstorm xl=27 kogl !won 1 -tv:<0.3 passes out? The last thing he did in his berserk was melee attack (armour made him miss but it shouldn't matter). He is on 0.15. Is he on old 0.15 and using ctrl+dir and the bug wasn't patched yet? 05:24:08 Patashu: OK, I'll let wheals know. 05:41:27 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 05:43:03 -!- Aryth1 has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 05:45:52 -!- Basil has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:51:45 -!- backslashecho has quit [Quit: Leaving] 05:58:39 -!- Tedronai has quit [Quit: leaving] 05:58:47 -!- Tedronai has joined ##crawl-dev 06:05:10 !lg glenstorm xl=27 kogl !won 1 -tv:<0.3 06:05:12 1. Glenstorm, XL27 KoGl, T:109291 requested for FooTV (telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org). 06:05:50 Patashu: he passes out because berserk ended and he got unlucky with the chance to pass out 06:06:36 Patashu: passing out has nothing to do with what you were doing while you were berserk, only that the berserk ends - and berserk certainly ends even if you are meleeing stuff constantly during it 06:07:05 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 06:16:19 elliptic: incorrect 06:16:27 go to main.cc and search 06:16:28 && one_chance_in(10 + player_mutation_level(MUT_BERSERK) * 25)) 06:16:30 and read the code around there 06:16:37 you can only pass out post exhaustion if your berserk_penalty is positive 06:16:47 and your berserk_penalty is only meant to be positive for doing 'bad' actions (not hitting things, not butchering things) 06:16:47 did someone change that then 06:17:05 the bugfix was that ctrl+dir didn't set your berserk_penalty back to 0 06:17:08 (if it hit something that is) 06:17:14 or no 06:17:15 it reset it 06:17:24 but it incremented by 1 because it didn't set the flag to say 'don't increment it' 06:17:29 so that got fixed pretty recently 06:17:37 and it got fixed in 0.15/trunk 06:17:41 so either that dude played before the fix 06:17:45 or there is an as of yet undiscovered bug 06:17:53 that string doesn't appear in main.cc 06:18:06 mprf(MSGCH_WARN, "You pass out from exhaustion."); 06:18:13 try that 06:18:14 and I'm pretty sure it isn't supposed to work the way you are talking about unless someone decided to change it in the last few versions 06:18:19 since that sounds pretty strange 06:19:25 you mean player-reacts.cc, I think 06:19:27 not main.cc 06:20:11 ah, ok, I'm using 0.14 codebase still 06:20:46 btw, if I'm wrong, please correct me 06:20:48 because it means the learndb is wrong too 06:21:10 anyway I don't know exactly how you.berserk_penalty works, looking at that now 06:26:05 -!- doubtofbuddha has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:27:11 I guess it could be that nobody ever knew until recently that berserk penalty did this, it seems like really bad design that it does 06:28:10 -!- yxhuvud has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:30:09 -!- jacobian_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 06:32:22 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 06:32:31 you can just pull the latest codebase from the repo you know, patashu 06:34:16 !lg glenstorm xl=27 kogl !won 1 -log 06:34:17 1. Glenstorm, XL27 KoGl, T:109291: http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/Glenstorm/morgue-Glenstorm-20140914-024357.txt 06:38:19 Patashu: so learndb is just totally wrong 06:38:43 you.berserk_penalty = NO_BERSERK_PENALTY is only set by xom zerks 06:38:52 it is the thing that makes xom zerks special 06:39:05 note that NO_BERSERK_PENALTY = -1 06:39:22 not 0 06:39:35 ??berserk[4] 06:39:35 berserk[4/8]: When berserk ends, 210-540 auts slow and exhaust for twice that. You can pass out (1d4 paralysis) if you fail these checks: 1) If Trog worshipper and not penitent, piety/150 to not pass out 2) If berserk_penalty is 0 at the end, don't pass out (see {berserk[2]}) 3) With 1 in 10 + (rage_mutation_level * 25) chance, pass out 06:41:29 !time 06:41:30 Time: Sep 14, 2014, 11:41:30 AM, UTC. The 2014 0.15 tournament ends in 8 hours, 18 minutes and 29 seconds. 06:41:41 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 06:41:49 rip 06:42:40 what bug is there with control + direction anyways 06:42:47 nothing 06:42:59 it used to make berserk expire more quickly but that was fixed 06:43:47 ??berserk [2] 06:43:48 berserk[2/8]: berserk_penalty starts at 0 whenever you berserk, resets to 0 whenever you attack or butcher a corpse (You enjoyed that.) and increments by 1 for doing non-berserk actions. After incrementing berserk_penalty, you lose 10*berserk_penalty auts from berserk duration. Messages are printed when berserk_penalty increments to 2/4/6. 06:44:21 !learn del berserk[4] 06:44:23 Deleted berserk[4/8]: When berserk ends, 210-540 auts slow and exhaust for twice that. You can pass out (1d4 paralysis) if you fail these checks: 1) If Trog worshipper and not penitent, piety/150 to not pass out 2) If berserk_penalty is 0 at the end, don't pass out (see {berserk[2]}) 3) With 1 in 10 + (rage_mutation_level * 25) chance, pass out 06:45:54 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:46:28 !learn add berserk[4] When berserk ends, there is a 1 in 10 + (rage_mutation_level * 25) chance of passing out (1d4 paralysis). Trog gives an extra piety/160 chance of avoiding passing out (so guaranteed protection at ******). 06:46:29 berserk[4/8]: When berserk ends, there is a 1 in 10 + (rage_mutation_level * 25) chance of passing out (1d4 paralysis). Trog gives an extra piety/160 chance of avoiding passing out (so guaranteed protection at ******). 06:46:53 ooooooooooooooooh 06:46:58 I didn't know it was -1... I assumed it was 0 06:47:00 I'm so very dumb 06:47:19 #define NO_BERSERK_PENALTY -1 06:47:33 . // This value is used to mark that the current berserk is free from 06:47:34 . // penalty (Xom's granted or from a deck of cards). 06:47:34 . #define NO_BERSERK_PENALTY -1 06:47:35 I'm so dumb 06:48:57 getting it from a deck of cards seems to not be a thing any more 06:49:32 -!- Lightli_ has joined ##crawl-dev 06:50:16 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 06:51:41 -!- Kramin has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 06:54:01 03elliptic02 07* 0.16-a0-396-gde791e0: Update a comment. 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=de791e08ca11 06:54:35 I'm really upset with myself 06:54:36 everything I touch 06:54:39 I seem to get completely fucking wrong 06:54:42 and no one notices for the longest time 06:54:49 this happens at my job too. lol 06:55:40 -!- negatendo has quit [Quit: poop] 06:58:49 ok, I have an idea 06:58:56 rename NO_BERSERK_PENALTY to IGNORE_BERSERK_PENALTY 06:59:15 -!- lrvs has quit [Client Quit] 06:59:33 the former is confusable as just meaning 0. I confused it as just meaning 0. 06:59:37 'IGNORE' can' 06:59:39 t be confused like that. 07:00:50 what do you think @elliptic 07:02:35 maybe, I agree the code is sort of confusing 07:02:49 could just improve some of the comments 07:05:34 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 07:10:51 -!- Ququman has joined ##crawl-dev 07:15:34 -!- blabber has joined ##crawl-dev 07:15:52 -!- Pluie has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:16:28 -!- tsohg has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:19:56 -!- blabber has quit [Client Quit] 07:20:14 -!- blabber has joined ##crawl-dev 07:21:47 -!- Medra is now known as Medar 07:25:27 -!- allbefore has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 07:26:50 -!- allbefore has quit [Client Quit] 07:27:15 -!- blabber has quit [Quit: leaving] 07:39:35 Pressing 'Tab' to select previous class/race/weapon on character creation no longer working. 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=8956 by WereVolvo 07:46:30 -!- tsohg has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:48:27 -!- johnny0 has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 07:48:57 -!- tsohg has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:50:10 -!- johnny0 has joined ##crawl-dev 07:51:57 -!- dgu__ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 07:54:00 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:54:40 -!- radinms has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 07:58:46 -!- alefury has quit [] 08:01:07 -!- svendre has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 08:01:08 -!- [1]svendre is now known as svendre 08:02:28 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 08:06:22 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:07:15 -!- ldf has joined ##crawl-dev 08:16:09 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 08:17:22 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:18:22 -!- negatendo has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:21:57 -!- yxhuvud has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:23:40 -!- luukano has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:24:59 -!- Brannock has joined ##crawl-dev 08:26:36 -!- kroki has quit [Client Quit] 08:31:25 03|amethyst02 07* 0.16-a0-397-g332477c: Fix species/job selection from .prf files (#8956) 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 6+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=332477c65c6e 08:31:28 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 08:31:52 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:33:00 -!- cgotoxy is now known as debo 08:42:32 -!- rophy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:46:17 -!- Hailley has quit [Quit: Petra is closed!] 08:50:12 -!- tensorpudding has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:51:42 -!- tsohg_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:52:06 -!- edlothiol has joined ##crawl-dev 08:52:35 "The Amulet of Yendor" haha 08:52:38 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 08:54:52 -!- namelastname112 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:04:03 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 09:07:31 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 09:08:10 -!- Lightli_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:26:01 -!- siepu has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:26:22 -!- Zooty has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:29:12 -!- tcjsavannah has quit [Quit: tcjsavannah] 09:34:10 -!- kroki has quit [Client Quit] 09:52:16 -!- tsohg has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:55:09 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 10:02:02 -!- tabstorm has joined ##crawl-dev 10:02:14 -!- ldf has quit [Quit: ldf] 10:02:37 -!- _D_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:03:41 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 10:05:50 -!- jeanjacques has joined ##crawl-dev 10:11:00 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 10:11:11 -!- jacobian_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 10:13:01 Yeah! Ahead by 80 pts! 10:13:16 oops, wrong channel 10:14:34 no, no 10:14:37 this is ##crawl 10:14:51 you can see it by how notbanned i am 10:17:24 <|amethyst> That could be corrected 10:17:26 -!- rchandra has joined ##crawl-dev 10:17:31 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 10:17:34 <|amethyst> :P 10:18:14 i'll correct YOU 10:24:52 -!- hurdos has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:24:53 -!- dgu has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:24:54 -!- __miek has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:24:54 -!- schistosoma has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:24:54 -!- Nstar has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:24:55 -!- SomeStupidGuy has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:24:56 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:24:56 -!- Sequell has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:24:56 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 10:24:56 -!- jacobian_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 10:25:52 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:26:04 -!- Sequell has joined ##crawl-dev 10:29:17 |amethyst: doh 10:30:37 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 10:31:03 <|amethyst> Grunt: I was surprised myself that it reads the .prf using game_options code 10:31:58 <|amethyst> I'm not sure how I feel about combo unsetting the other three (and vice versa) 10:32:27 <|amethyst> as opposed to just causing them to be ignored (probably using methods rather than direct access to query the values) 10:32:29 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 10:33:02 <|amethyst> not that anyone would do this, but it produces confusing results: 10:33:15 <|amethyst> combo = spen, ddfi 10:33:25 <|amethyst> species = human 10:33:25 -!- Brannock_ has joined ##crawl-dev 10:33:32 <|amethyst> combo += decj 10:34:26 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 10:35:12 <|amethyst> And I kind of think combo + weapon should be usable together but I'm not sure how to specify the semantics 10:35:13 -!- PoopBridge has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:36:39 <|amethyst> maybe "a combo without a weapon specified uses the (final) value(s) of 'weapon'" but that still isn't clear about weighting when there are multiple values for 'weapon' 10:37:04 I was actually thinking that it might be nice if the code worked as follows: first look at species and pick a random species from that list (if nonempty), then look at background and pick a random background from that list (if nonempty), then look at combo and pick a random combo from that list that matches any previously chosen species/background (if any) 10:37:26 so you could have a long list of combos and then select from those by adding species = human 10:38:12 -!- flowsnake_ has joined ##crawl-dev 10:38:18 -!- SomeStupidGirl has quit [*.net *.split] 10:38:19 -!- Stoats has quit [*.net *.split] 10:38:19 -!- tensorpudding has quit [*.net *.split] 10:38:19 -!- Brannock has quit [*.net *.split] 10:38:19 -!- Daekdroom has quit [*.net *.split] 10:38:19 -!- omnirizon has quit [*.net *.split] 10:38:20 -!- flowsnake has quit [*.net *.split] 10:38:20 -!- gigantic_ has quit [*.net *.split] 10:38:20 -!- nonethousand has quit [*.net *.split] 10:38:21 -!- yokelz has quit [*.net *.split] 10:38:21 -!- causative has quit [*.net *.split] 10:38:22 -!- AGinsberg has quit [*.net *.split] 10:38:23 -!- flowsnake_ is now known as flowsnake 10:39:09 -!- SSG has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:43:24 I just wanted to get something implemented as soon as possible; the specifics are something we can work on throughout the 0.16 cycle. :) 10:43:44 <|amethyst> yeah 10:45:41 (in particular right now I'm not happy with how weapon interacts with everything else if it specifies invalid/unusable entries in the list; if there is a valid setting in the list it should find that rather than picking one randomly, failing, and showing the prompt) 10:47:36 <|amethyst> Yeah, I think it would be better to consider each option a filter on the set of possible newgame choices, and only select randomly at the end 10:48:02 <|amethyst> except what to do when you filter out all the possibilities 10:48:54 |amethyst: that's why I prefer selecting sequentially 10:48:56 <|amethyst> (and maybe combo-weapon and weapon should be combined more intelligently than just intersection) 10:50:24 <|amethyst> elliptic: when you said "previously chosen" 10:50:35 <|amethyst> elliptic: did you mean by the player (on the list) or by the RNG (the selected ones) 10:51:12 I meant the RNG, this is all before the player makes any choices 10:51:27 (other than what to place in the rcfile, that is) 10:51:28 <|amethyst> player choice in the rcfile I mean 10:51:29 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 10:51:41 what do you mean 10:52:09 the player lists some number of species in their rcfile 10:52:21 that number might be 1, it might be greater than 1, I don't care about that 10:52:26 but if it is positive, pick one at random 10:52:39 otherwise leave species as SP_UNKNOWN or whatever 10:53:12 then proceed to background and do the same thing, except first filter the list to remove any backgrounds that aren't allowed with the chosen species 10:53:32 at that stage there might be a selected species, a selected background, both, or neither 10:54:00 then look at the list of combos provided by the player in rcfile and restrict to those that match the previous selections 10:54:29 if that is nonempty, choose a random one and set species/background to it 10:55:00 if it is empty, keep the existing selections 10:55:04 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 10:55:27 at this stage the combo might still only be partially selected (or not at all) 10:55:54 if so, now give the normal list of species/backgrounds to the player and let them complete selecting combo 10:56:17 <|amethyst> okay, I think I was confused before because you said "matches any previously chosen species/background" before 10:56:27 <|amethyst> I took the "any" to mean "at least one" 10:56:33 -!- raskol has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 10:56:43 <|amethyst> i.e. either the species or the background 10:56:50 right, by species/background I meant species or background or species+background 10:56:52 <|amethyst> but not necessarily both, even if both were specieid 10:56:55 and not the list species,background 10:57:06 sorry that was unclear :) 10:58:25 <|amethyst> hm, I'm not sure I like what that does with probabilities 10:58:28 wow 10:58:39 absolutely no competition on the speedrunning front this tournament 10:59:26 <|amethyst> if you do species = all the species job = all the jobs and combo = one dd combo and twelve sp combos 10:59:40 <|amethyst> then you'd be just as likely to pick the dd as the twelve sp 10:59:59 |amethyst: you'd also be just as likely to pick any other combo 11:00:07 -!- slifty has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 11:00:11 so I don't understand the problem 11:00:38 <|amethyst> oh, right 11:00:39 if you do species = all the species job = all the jobs, then with what I just explained that is equivalent to just pressing ** in character creation 11:00:51 regardless of what combo is 11:01:16 -!- Crehl has quit [Quit: Killed by a kitten.] 11:01:46 <|amethyst> okay, species = sp, dd (I want to play one of those this game) no job option combo = five de, one dd, and twelve sp 11:01:53 it is true that with my proposal you can't really simultaneously filter your list of special combos by a subset of species and a subset of backgrounds 11:02:15 |amethyst: personally I think it is good if "species = sp, dd" means that half your games are sp and half are dd 11:02:21 regardless of what else you put there 11:02:22 <|amethyst> hm 11:02:33 I might be in the minority though, just trying to imagine how I might use this 11:03:38 I'm fine with the "apply all filters and then randomize at the end" thing you suggested too 11:04:06 <|amethyst> hm, maybe that does make more sense than having the combo list controlling the probabilities 11:04:40 <|amethyst> and probably with nothing selected you wouldn't want to make demigod, mummy, etc less common than the others 11:04:54 <|amethyst> which you would do if the selection is ultimately by combo 11:05:42 right, that's actually why I use ** in-game to select random chars as hyperelliptic rather than using !rng @char in IRC 11:05:43 <|amethyst> I could see arguments for (some players) wanting to do background first then species 11:06:26 <|amethyst> but you can do that easily enough in the UI 11:07:47 -!- mamgar has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:07:52 <|amethyst> (If He and Fi having the same probability is more important to you than Vp and DE having the same probability) 11:09:15 note that if you have a list of combos that you want to use then with my proposal you won't want to use both a species filter and a background filter anyway 11:09:33 <|amethyst> yeah 11:09:39 and using just a background filter works symmetrically to using just a species filter 11:10:38 <|amethyst> Yeah, I keep forgetting that in your proposal SP_UNKNOWN is lazy 11:11:09 species = sp w:20 / dd 11:14:59 <|amethyst> It would be nice to be able to select multiple things in the species/job selection UI 11:15:51 <|amethyst> "this game I want to play a 'mage', give me a random one" 11:16:13 <|amethyst> since few people will edit their rc files 11:16:36 -!- tsohg has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:28:24 -!- Pluie has joined ##crawl-dev 11:28:46 -!- DrKe_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 11:32:40 -!- _D_ has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 11:32:44 -!- DrKe has joined ##crawl-dev 11:33:22 -!- nonethou1and is now known as nonethousand 11:33:38 -!- nonethousand has quit [Changing host] 11:34:53 -!- tcsc has quit [Quit: computer sleeping] 11:38:58 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:39:49 -!- svendre has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:39:50 -!- [1]svendre is now known as svendre 11:44:55 -!- svendre has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 11:49:45 -!- Lightli has joined ##crawl-dev 11:52:23 -!- Stoats_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:55:49 -!- 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The 2014 0.15 tournament ends in 2 hours, 48 minutes and 45 seconds. 12:11:25 -!- Brannock__ has joined ##crawl-dev 12:11:40 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.16-a0-398-g1218a0c (34) 12:12:51 !time 12:12:51 Time: Sep 14, 2014, 05:12:51 PM, UTC. The 2014 0.15 tournament ends in 2 hours, 47 minutes and 8 seconds. 12:14:22 -!- Brannock_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:14:57 -!- slifty has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:19:20 -!- Laraso has quit [Quit: Laraso falls through a shaft! The shaft crumbles and collapses.] 12:21:25 !lg . t won x=sum(dur) 12:21:26 14 games for potatolizard (t won): sum(dur)=2d+1:02:51 12:21:27 !lg . t !won x=sum(dur) 12:21:27 258 games for potatolizard (t !won): sum(dur)=3d+23:18:33 12:21:33 well 12:21:42 it's not quite as bad as I expected 12:22:27 I wonder if trogwrath is safer than abyss 12:24:15 03ontoclasm02 07* 0.16-a0-399-g21ad890: A few unrand tiles 10(23 minutes ago, 6 files, 0+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=21ad89016c70 12:24:15 03ontoclasm02 07* 0.16-a0-400-gc9fd18a: LRD & Shatter icons 10(4 minutes ago, 2 files, 0+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=c9fd18a9d2fb 12:24:15 03ontoclasm02 07[stone_soup-0.15] * 0.15.0-34-g666c3a1: LRD & Shatter icons (cherry picked from commit 09bf3b01681f671cb56b0ae8a44486ae711a53d1) 10(4 minutes ago, 2 files, 0+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=666c3a1b42a9 12:24:26 and done 12:24:36 finally :/ 12:28:01 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 12:29:36 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:30:00 !lm floodkiller mu br.end=orc 12:30:00 wheals: You have 3 messages. Use !messages to read them. 12:30:01 3. [2014-09-13 21:35:39] Floodkiller the Slinger (L14 MuCK of Yredelemnul) reached level 4 of the Orcish Mines on turn 86227. (Orc:4) 12:30:07 !lm floodkiller mu yred br.end=orc s=ktyp 12:30:08 One milestone for floodkiller (mu yred br.end=orc): mon 12:30:11 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 12:30:16 !lm floodkiller mu yred br.end=orc -log 12:30:17 Floodkiller, XL14 MuCK, T:93595: http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/Floodkiller/morgue-Floodkiller-20140913-235608.txt 12:30:42 no vaults in his dump_order :( 12:30:48 !messages 12:30:48 (1/3) Grunt said (14h 21m 13s ago): You flatten Wheals like a pancake!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 12:30:49 !messages 12:30:49 (1/2) gammafunk said (13h 39m 28s ago): mission accomplished, this counts as a win for sure (lair:3 by 4.5k): gammafunk the Summoner (L9 HESu of Sif Muna) entered the Lair of Beasts on turn 4245. (D:10) 12:30:51 !messages 12:30:52 (1/1) Patashu said (7h 6m 43s ago): Can you explain why !lg glenstorm xl=27 kogl !won 1 -tv:<0.3 passes out? The last thing he did in his berserk was melee attack (armour made him miss but it shouldn't matter). He is on 0.15. Is he on old 0.15 and using ctrl+dir and the bug wasn't patched yet? 12:30:56 -!- HoneyLocust has joined ##crawl-dev 12:31:35 -!- HoneyLocust has quit [Client Quit] 12:32:25 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 12:33:07 -!- raskol has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:33:37 -!- Tolias has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:34:54 !lm gammafunk br.enter=lair turn=4245 -game 12:34:54 gammafunk:cszo:20140814023504S. gammafunk the Summoner (L11 HESu of Sif Muna), mangled by a merfolk impaler (a +1 vampiric trident) on Shoals:2 on 2014-09-14 06:12:07, with 11419 points after 7063 turns and 1:03:53. 12:34:59 excellent 12:36:27 -!- bh has joined ##crawl-dev 12:37:46 -!- wheals_ has joined ##crawl-dev 12:38:12 -!- wheals has quit [Disconnected by services] 12:38:17 -!- wheals_ is now known as wheals 12:38:28 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 12:45:07 * wheals pushes the "push" button... 12:45:49 -!- PolkaDot has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 12:45:58 UH OH 12:46:01 what color is sharnga in console 12:46:47 ETC_GOLD 12:46:54 mm 12:47:16 03wheals02 07* 0.16-a0-401-gf638857: Replace magic enum values with FFT_s in feature-data.h 10(6 weeks ago, 13 files, 59+ 74-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=f6388577564e 12:47:16 03wheals02 07* 0.16-a0-402-g095d982: Remove unused feat_is_rock function. 10(6 weeks ago, 3 files, 0+ 11-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=095d9828d28f 12:47:16 03wheals02 07* 0.16-a0-403-gc2f00eb: Clean up terrain.cc slightly. 10(6 weeks ago, 9 files, 104+ 89-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=c2f00ebf012f 12:47:16 03wheals02 07* 0.16-a0-404-g70da75f: Remove more comparisons by order in dungeon_feature_type. 10(6 weeks ago, 17 files, 265+ 248-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=70da75f6f412 12:47:16 03wheals02 07* 0.16-a0-405-g8e29465: Try to remove the last comparisons by order of dungeon_feature_types. 10(6 weeks ago, 18 files, 140+ 125-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=8e294652fdc0 12:47:16 03wheals02 07* 0.16-a0-406-ga6f61f7: Make a bunch of switches on DNGN_ enums use feat_is_ functions instead. 10(3 weeks ago, 7 files, 42+ 212-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=a6f61f745a1e 12:47:16 03wheals02 07* 0.16-a0-407-gc30c4a8: Pack dungeon_feature_type more tightly on save bump. 10(3 weeks ago, 1 file, 4+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=c30c4a84fe3b 12:47:16 03wheals02 07* 0.16-a0-408-geda21aa: Turn symbol/magic_symbol into methods of feature_def rather than fields. 10(3 weeks ago, 10 files, 114+ 110-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=eda21aabd127 12:47:18 bow of gozagna 12:47:50 -!- Basil has joined ##crawl-dev 12:52:34 !time 12:52:34 Time: Sep 14, 2014, 05:52:34 PM, UTC. The 2014 0.15 tournament ends in 2 hours, 7 minutes and 25 seconds. 12:52:39 !lm gammafunk alive 12:52:40 133. [2014-09-12 22:01:21] gammafunk the Caller (L8 HESu of Sif Muna) entered a Labyrinth on turn 3215. (Lair:1) 12:53:00 hrm, that one isn't alive 12:53:06 !lm . alive x=src 12:53:07 133. [2014-09-12 22:01:21] [src=cszo] gammafunk the Caller (L8 HESu of Sif Muna) entered a Labyrinth on turn 3215. (Lair:1) 12:53:16 !lm . alive x=cv 12:53:16 133. [2014-09-12 22:01:21] [cv=0.15] gammafunk the Caller (L8 HESu of Sif Muna) entered a Labyrinth on turn 3215. (Lair:1) 12:53:25 !locateall gammafunk 12:53:34 gammafunk: CKR 0.14-a, L1 VSIE of No God | CLAN 0.14-a, L1 VSIE of No God | CSZO 0.14-a, L1 HEIE of No God | CSZO 0.14-a, L1 HEIE of No God | CSZO 0.14-a, L1 DEFE of No God | CSZO 0.15-a, L1 HEIE of No God | CSZO 0.15-a, L1 HEIE of No God | CSZO 0.15-a, L1 DEWz of No God | CSZO 0.15-a, L1 HuFi of No God | CSZO 0.15-a, L5 NaAs of No God | CSZO 0.15-a, L19 HESu of Sif Muna | CSZO 0.15-a, L9 HESu of ... 12:53:35 not sure that what's about, but it's wrong 12:54:03 -!- Bloax has quit [Quit: Error: Bloax not found] 12:54:06 !locateall gammafunk t 12:54:08 gammafunk: CSZO 0.15, L4 HESu of No God | CSZO 0.15, L8 HESu of Sif Muna 12:54:20 weirrrd 12:54:21 um looks like someone broke !locateall 12:54:25 !cmd !locateall 12:54:25 Command: !locateall => .echo $(or $(join " || " $(split " | ^" $(sub 1 $(=locateall.raw $*)))) "Failed to locate $(name_fixup "$*").") 12:54:33 it's been broken for devs for a long time 12:54:35 because of wizmode 12:54:36 !cmd =locateall.raw 12:54:36 Command: =locateall.raw => !lm ${*:-.} alive s=name,gid o=-name join:" | " pfmt:"^${.}: ${child}" fmt:"\$(!lm ${*:-.} gid=${.} fmt:'$(upper $src) $cv, L$xl $char of ${god:-No God}')" stub:"^" 12:54:46 !locateall . 12:54:46 oh, wiz mode 12:54:48 hyperelliptic: CSZO 0.14, L15 DgSu of No God 12:54:51 ah 12:54:57 (well, i guess it only broke for wizmode because of begin milestone) 12:54:57 !lm * wizard 12:55:00 748113. [2014-09-14 17:54:50] agenthree the Ruinous (L9 GrWz of Vehumet) became a worshipper of Vehumet on turn 8253. (Temple) 12:55:04 oh right 12:55:07 lol 12:55:28 are we pushing 0.16 stuff now? 12:55:28 hm I wonder how easy this is to fix 12:55:31 not sure, don't have time now 12:55:37 gammafunk: wait a couple hours :P 12:56:11 wheals should have to sit in a corner for two hours then 12:56:22 :( 12:56:52 not only that, but those commits seem to have broken something (i'm bisecting at the moment) 12:57:39 something? 12:59:24 "it"? :p 12:59:40 everything seemed alright when i tested it, granted that was 3 weeks ago 13:00:00 well, not everything seemed alright but i thought i fixed the things that didn't :P 13:00:55 -!- bh has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:01:46 * wheals wonders if trying to compile his changes blew up bh's computer 13:02:09 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 13:05:02 yeah, it's eda21aa 13:05:15 "Invalid glyph override: ECF280" 13:05:47 default rcfile? 13:05:56 -!- kramell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:06:18 yes 13:08:17 tiles, perhaps? 13:08:28 this is on a normal console build 13:08:28 or maybe it's not happening to me because of msysgit? 13:08:57 -!- Bloax has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:09:06 sounds like an error that could be system-dependent 13:10:12 -!- somebody1 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:10:37 yeah, maybe your wcwidth() is buggy 13:11:06 or mine, i suppose 13:11:58 can anyone else reproduce this? 13:12:57 -!- giganticus has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 13:16:51 -!- somebody1 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:18:21 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 13:21:14 -!- somebody2 has quit [Client Quit] 13:26:20 let me see if I can 13:27:24 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 13:28:52 !apt fe 13:28:52 Fe: Fighting: 0, Short: N/A, Long: N/A, Axes: N/A, Maces: N/A, Polearms: N/A, Staves: N/A, Slings: N/A, Bows: N/A, Xbows: N/A, Throw: N/A, Armour: N/A, Dodge: 3, Stealth: 4, Shields: N/A, UC: 0, Splcast: -1, Conj: -1, Hexes: 4!, Charms: 2, Summ: 0, Nec: 0, Tloc: 4!, Tmut: 1, Fire: -1, Ice: -1, Air: -1, Earth: -1, Poison: -1, Inv: 0, Evo: 2, Exp: -1, HP: -4*, MP: 2 13:32:30 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 13:33:02 wheals: I also get a glyph override error 13:33:05 with my usual rc 13:33:18 Invalid glyph override: 4F4BB070 13:33:22 hm, are you both on a real linux system? 13:33:29 ubuntu, console build 13:33:44 well webtiles build 13:33:46 i guess my problem is windows 13:33:49 but running it as console 13:35:33 I also see the error in the webserver log when running webtiles 13:35:36 and starting a game 13:35:37 fwiw 13:35:45 hrm, a different number though 13:35:55 ERR: Invalid glyph override: 6B7C7C80 13:36:06 must be a memory address 13:36:28 based on the code it seems to be a wide unicode char 13:38:00 -!- Brannock_ has joined ##crawl-dev 13:39:05 uninitialized memory access? 13:39:35 if it's a pointer there's something really weird going on 13:41:00 oh, i bet i know what's going on 13:41:16 on some systems, the clubs glyph we use for trees is 1.5 width 13:41:22 -!- Brannock__ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:42:55 !apt te 13:42:55 Te: Fighting: 0, Short: 1, Long: 1, Axes: 1, Maces: 1, Polearms: 1, Staves: 1, Slings: 0, Bows: 1, Xbows: 1, Throw: 1, Armour: 1, Dodge: 1, Stealth: 1, Shields: 0, UC: 1!, Splcast: -1, Conj: 3!, Hexes: -3, Charms: -2, Summ: 2!, Nec: 1, Tloc: -2, Tmut: -2, Fire: 1, Ice: -1, Air: 3!, Earth: -3*, Poison: 0, Inv: -1*, Evo: 1, Exp: 0, HP: -2, MP: 1 13:44:03 !lm . 13:44:03 9776. [2014-09-14 18:41:00] gammafunk the Caller (L1 HESu) began the quest for the Orb on turn 0. (D:1) 13:44:15 !lm . 13:44:15 9777. [2014-09-14 18:43:56] gammafunk the Caller (L3 HESu of Sif Muna) became a worshipper of Sif Muna on turn 610. (D:3) 13:44:21 wheals: this could be another win 13:44:25 !time 13:44:25 Time: Sep 14, 2014, 06:44:25 PM, UTC. The 2014 0.15 tournament ends in 1 hour, 15 minutes and 34 seconds. 13:44:30 we believe in you 13:46:06 -!- SomeStupidGuy has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 13:47:48 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 13:49:00 -!- NilsBloodaxe has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:51:21 03wheals02 07* 0.16-a0-409-ged2c9d3: Improve some beam code (|amethyst). 10(15 minutes ago, 3 files, 24+ 42-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=ed2c9d37a2bb 13:51:21 03wheals02 07* 0.16-a0-410-g5ac967e: Don't consider lightning bolts to go through trees in tracers (#8542). 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 3+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=5ac967ef1e1c 13:51:21 03wheals02 07* 0.16-a0-411-ga6711e2: Make beams even more unable to hit monsters in walls. 10(75 seconds ago, 1 file, 0+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=a6711e214bd7 13:53:18 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 14:01:06 -!- Bloax has quit [Quit: Error: Bloax not found] 14:04:32 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 14:06:08 -!- Earlo has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:07:15 -!- bh has joined ##crawl-dev 14:10:44 -!- Brannock_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:11:32 -!- Brannock has joined ##crawl-dev 14:14:00 -!- Bloax has quit [Quit: Error: Bloax not found] 14:16:56 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 14:17:19 -!- Adder has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:22:04 -!- tsohg has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:25:01 -!- Tolias has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:27:05 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Saindo] 14:27:37 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 14:29:28 -!- Siegurt has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 14:32:25 -!- Miauw has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:37:17 !lm . 14:37:17 9788. [2014-09-14 19:30:16] gammafunk the Summoner (L11 HESu of Sif Muna) became the Champion of Sif Muna on turn 6808. (Swamp:1) 14:37:22 wheals: another win for the team 14:37:32 yawn 14:37:47 yak wanderer? no, not my favorite combo 14:37:51 !lm * t hesu max.piety~~sif s=name 14:37:52 Unknown field: max.piety 14:38:01 !lm * t hesu god.maxpiety~~sif s=name 14:38:03 21 milestones for * (t hesu god.maxpiety~~sif): 20x gammafunk, Lasty 14:38:09 >_> 14:38:22 spectating via console on cao might be toast -- i can spectate via webtiles fine though 14:38:54 !lm * t god.maxpiety~~sif s=name 14:38:57 287 milestones for * (t god.maxpiety~~sif): 21x gammafunk, 7x smk137, 5x snelelg, 5x silentsnack, 5x Katai, 5x Undo, 4x LarryBoy, 4x DualCategory, 4x platinum, 4x tlatlagkaus, 3x TheNoid, 3x TheSomberlain, 3x XLukarX, 3x Ferrinus, 3x Delvonshi, 3x Kautzman, 3x Antioch, 3x Hurkyl, 3x chukamok, 3x lakren, 3x shummie, 3x Zrachosh, 3x croikle, 2x TZer0, 2x Chris7, 2x Nissa02, 2x aTarkinC, 2x talkingca... 14:39:19 !lm * god.maxpiety=sif_muna s=name 14:39:21 12833 milestones for * (god.maxpiety=sif_muna): 260x gammafunk, 170x 4tharraofdagon, 169x buffalo66, 152x Sky, 143x Bruce, 126x kave, 99x qtip, 89x silentsnack, 79x Avigdore, 77x chukamok, 71x minmay, 67x Waterpls, 67x jvj24601, 66x bart, 66x nubinia, 63x Makr, 62x sorbius, 58x aTarkinC, 56x Plasmo, 55x Ragdoll, 54x Poncheis, 53x tlatlagkaus, 52x LetItHappen, 51x letownia, 51x onwiheg, 46x moose, ... 14:39:48 an minmay says his favorite god is sif minua 14:39:52 *muna 14:40:35 conclusion: mu > he-- 14:40:39 sif needs exciting changes in 0.16 IMO 14:40:58 I used to like sif a lot but then I realized that this was a mistake 14:45:35 ^ 14:45:55 merge sif and nem 14:46:12 wheals: that would condense down the number of gods I would avoid playing 14:46:27 does minmay hate fun 14:46:30 i am genuinely curious now 14:47:01 Given that he talks about dreaming about Sif, it might well be something else 14:47:06 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 14:48:46 well he likes mummies and sif muna 14:48:54 generally known as the two least fun things 14:48:55 -!- moose has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:49:19 Mummies are less fun than felids? I really don't think so. 14:49:21 -!- tsohg has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 14:49:43 the difference is that felids can run away and drink potions 14:49:44 Mummies are challenging-fun as long as you don't go MuCK 14:49:46 and cast spells well 14:50:05 mummies are pretty fun, is my unbiased opinion 14:50:22 -!- Bron has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:50:25 probably depends on how much you like going swiftly through the game 14:51:06 tbh I don't find vehumet to be that fun, but he's certainly a servicable god 14:51:10 -!- captainkilljoy has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:51:23 Vehumet is a pretty boring god, yes. 14:51:31 But at least he passively helps you. 14:51:37 and quite well at that 14:52:17 elliptic: do you have a favorite god at this point, after all those wins? 14:52:24 Vehumet's passives are good but not signficantly game-changing. Offering spells is interesting, and sometimes does change your game, since they're only availabe for a short time. 14:52:47 he gives you passive wizardry and mp on kills 14:53:01 and range extension on conjurations 14:53:07 (wizardry for said conjurations) 14:53:21 how game-changing veh is depends on how exclusively you use conjurations 14:53:32 which is much more exciting than an active ability you have to mash a-a for 14:53:33 or damaging spells in general, I guess 14:53:39 that also makes you very hungry 14:53:58 which means more butchering and eating chunks 14:54:01 mmm love that stuff 14:54:19 -!- Kellhus has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:54:50 well I mostly enjoy low turncount runs at this point, so it's great for that 14:55:04 esp with summons ofc 14:55:48 passive mp is just generally far better for a conjurer since they have no meat shields 14:56:07 !time 14:56:07 Time: Sep 14, 2014, 07:56:07 PM, UTC. The 2014 0.15 tournament ends in 3 minutes and 52 seconds. 14:57:25 -!- Kellhus_ is now known as Kellhus 14:58:02 !time 14:58:02 Time: Sep 14, 2014, 07:58:02 PM, UTC. The 2014 0.15 tournament ends in 1 minute and 57 seconds. 14:58:06 !!! 14:58:09 gammafunk: probably trog 14:58:17 yeah, that'd be my guess 14:58:28 i fell in love with huge stats 14:58:38 and it feels terrible that races have such low stats 14:58:48 e.g. Zin/Chei? 14:59:06 zin isn't huge stats until your invocations is off the charts 14:59:18 well tbh I find the way that chei breaks movement to be especially bad because you have move->lots of monster actions->move->lots of monster actions 14:59:21 which isn't exactly something you have by early lair 14:59:27 I think it's a poor fit for crawl 14:59:33 -!- tsohg has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:59:35 it just means you have to know how to handle it 14:59:41 it's not whether it can be handled 14:59:45 and temporal distortion is an incredibly good ability 14:59:50 it's whether it's good in a grid-based game 15:00:21 what I like about sif channel is essentially mp on demand (for a cost, of course), but of course I don't like hitting aa a lot 15:00:30 but I wouldn't want sif to have something that isn't mp on demand 15:00:43 as opposed to veh, which is you get the mp you get 15:00:51 it's good that they're distinguished that way 15:00:58 but I wouldn't mind seeing sif's channel interface improved 15:01:23 with a macro aa really doesn't bother me much, since it's not different from hitting TAB 15:01:38 so I'm not quite sure the interface can be improved a lot, but it's possible I'm sure 15:01:40 the thing that pisses me off the most about channeling happens to be 15:01:42 You feel hungry. 15:02:30 yeah hunger costs for that are very meaningful in terms of actually being a limitation; one of the few instances in current crawl where that is the case 15:02:45 I guess elyv and berserk would be the others, and to a lesser extend spell hunger 15:02:48 *extent 15:03:30 berserk doesn't actually matter that much unless you berserk literally everything 15:03:33 Well, those hunger costs are only meaningful when you aren't killing things that leave corpses frequently 15:03:34 gammafunk: btw you can push stuff now ;P 15:03:42 ty 15:03:44 for that exact reason 15:03:54 elliptic: do you have any comments on wtf_mnoleg btw? 15:04:02 which is why ely definitely has hunger issues 15:04:02 gammafunk: make sure to only push stuff that breaks windows, to be fair 15:04:03 it's a branch where we make mnoleg nastier 15:04:04 wtf is wtf_mnoleg 15:04:08 oh okay 15:04:10 sure sounds good :P 15:04:18 gammafunk: what did you do again 15:04:23 give him eldritch tentacles? 15:04:23 mnoleg gets a couple of tentacles to cuddle you with 15:04:30 Basil: ok, so mnoleg's vault is water palace, but with more water... 15:04:40 Basil: and all the pan lords are like that 15:04:43 I don't do extended so okay 15:04:47 %git wtf_mnoleg 15:04:47 07gammafunk02 * 0.16-a0-312-gff539e4: Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/master' into wtf_mnoleg 10(2 weeks ago, 0 files, 0+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=ff539e4c3523 15:04:48 -!- Ragdoll has quit [Quit: Houdoe] 15:04:53 well that's the branch 15:04:59 -!- Mandevil has quit [Quit: leaving] 15:05:00 the tentacle AI is a little wonky 15:05:07 so I might try to fix that before pushing 15:05:23 tentacles seem to have a hard time moving to where they can hit the player 15:05:27 at certain times 15:05:39 03Grunt02 07* 0.16-a0-412-g507061c: The 0.15 tournament is over; don't annoy people about Trunk games. 10(43 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=507061c1f447 15:05:48 rip 15:05:49 rip 15:05:50 Grunt: splat 15:05:56 *rip tournament 15:05:58 give him magnetic, rocket-propelled tentacles 15:05:58 yeah rip 15:06:00 !gamesby gw t 15:06:00 gw (t) has played 2038 games, between 2014-08-29 20:34:51 and 2014-09-14 19:55:49, won 0, high score 179476, total score 6124634, total turns 9151513, play-time/day 7:10:27, total time 5d+1:57:47. 15:06:06 wow 15:06:10 what an awful winrate 15:06:10 !hs gw t 15:06:11 2038. gw the Warrior (L17 MiGl of Trog), blasted by a naga ritualist (Olgreb's Toxic Radiance) on Snake:5 (minmay_snake_end_coiled) on 2014-09-09 22:19:50, with 179476 points after 45406 turns and 0:51:13. 15:06:12 7 hours a day 15:06:13 gammafunk: you can always give mnoleg 15:06:16 singularity 15:06:21 haha 15:06:22 thanks for another fun tourney! 15:06:23 Basil: revive that imo!!! 15:06:27 !gamesby tolias t 15:06:28 tolias (t) has played 121 games, between 2014-08-29 20:03:09 and 2014-09-14 17:08:00, won 26 (21.5%), high score 15550351, total score 71454975, total turns 2970508, play-time/day 10:23:43, total time 7d+8:43:25. 15:06:36 tolias is a way better bot than gw 15:06:44 what 15:06:46 wow, 10 hours a day 15:06:47 gammafunk: also fix tourney scoring please 15:06:48 will singularity ever actually be in the game :v 15:06:51 he's not a bot, his name doesn't end in w 15:06:51 we need to nerf tolias 15:06:59 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 15:07:01 he's a secret bot 15:07:07 ??tournament 15:07:07 tournament[1/5]: The 0.15 tournament ran from 20:00 UTC Aug 29 to 20:00 UTC Sep 14. Rules: http://dobrazupa.org/tournament/0.15/ 15:07:11 tourney scoring? that's more PleasingFungus and elliptic 15:07:14 !lg * won name~~w$ s=name 15:07:15 250 games for * (won name~~w$): 72x theglow, 35x timbw, 19x afterglow, 17x moocowmoocow, 15x Mattchew, 11x murphyslaw, 10x Sosloow, 8x qw, 8x joew, 5x DEFINITELYNOTLAINIW, 5x Geodew, 5x LIKELYLAINIW, 4x Copingsaw, 3x philsnow, 3x qwqw, 3x Nethershadow, 3x TGW, 3x agentsparrow, 2x HorrorMuchShow, 2x POSSIBLYLAINIW, 2x Nightdew, 2x ryw, 2x snow, 2x Meow, Ripsaw, dw, ztfw, AwesomeAndrew, Scarecrow, O... 15:07:32 yes tourney needs much better diminishing returns on winning lots of games 15:07:40 !lg * won name~~^[a-z]w$ s=name 15:07:40 9 games for * (won name~~^[a-z]w$): 8x qw, dw 15:07:42 oh that's what you mean 15:07:45 dw??? 15:07:49 !lg dw won 15:07:50 1. dw the Ninja (L27 VpEn of Ashenzari), escaped with the Orb and 4 runes on 2012-01-16 13:10:06, with 1593626 points after 183208 turns and 22:28:24. 15:07:56 imposter 15:07:57 1learn add w-impostors 15:08:06 gammafunk: basically 15:08:32 what's the purpose of steeper diminishing returns 15:08:46 Bloax: so 7 days of playtime isn't so "dominating" 15:08:57 so the tournament doesn't answer the question of "who is unemployed" 15:09:00 !gamesby vidiiot t 15:09:01 vidiiot (t) has played 73 games, between 2014-08-29 20:01:27 and 2014-09-14 09:26:08, won 12 (16.4%), high score 21257444, total score 42582769, total turns 1339777, play-time/day 7:01:44, total time 4d+23:29:29. 15:09:08 the race/class/god points are just too high if you are winning that many games 15:09:19 well yes 15:09:20 dang vidiiot 15:09:25 * wheals shakes his fist 15:09:36 having more ways to get points than winning combos would be good 15:09:42 the simplest thing to do would be to only count the top 10 species you win or some such 15:09:49 gammafunk: so you're proposing that we use a survey instead of a tournament to determine who is unemployed? 15:09:49 maybe something smoother 15:09:50 rip tournaments. 15:09:57 because at the end of the day that's the only thing that gives points after you've gotten your realtime/turncount speedruns and 15-runers 15:10:02 elliptic: your top 7 wins? 15:10:14 that avoids the "winning leaves you worse off" thing I think 15:10:17 maybe 9 (3^2) 15:10:24 Basil: 7, 10, whatever 15:10:50 yeah I don't think that wins should ever *hurt* you, at least for these 2-week tourneys 15:11:04 so something like "just count the first 7 wins" would be bad 15:11:40 but that's not an issue with picking the 7 highest-value species you win and using those for species points, etc 15:12:02 anyway Tolias has definitely demonstrated his dominance of the current tourney format :) 15:12:14 elliptic: and what about rune points? 15:12:25 rune points are already steeply diminishing 15:12:30 15000 points on the winning team stem from two players 15:12:42 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 15:13:07 I will note that Tolias's score this tourney is actually lower than bmfx's score from 0.13 though 15:13:20 despite having 6 more wins 15:13:29 so at least # of wins isn't everything 15:13:30 by 2 points 15:13:37 -!- WereVolvo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:13:41 did tolias repeat race/class? 15:14:11 !lg tolias t won s=race 15:14:11 26 games for tolias (t won): 3x High Elf, 2x Felid, 2x Vine Stalker, 2x Vampire, 2x Deep Dwarf, 2x Minotaur, Demonspawn, Merfolk, Mummy, Human, Deep Elf, Tengu, Pale Draconian, Centaur, Ogre, Kobold, Ghoul, Demigod, Yellow Draconian 15:14:33 !lg bmfx t0.13 won s=race 15:14:33 21 games for bmfx (t0.13 won): High Elf, Centaur, Human, Troll, Deep Dwarf, Mummy, Hill Orc, Spriggan, Gargoyle, Merfolk, Red Draconian, Vampire, Minotaur, Deep Elf, Tengu, Demigod, Ghoul, Halfling, Kobold, Octopode, Demonspawn 15:14:48 -!- tsohg has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:14:57 Basil: repeats and small streaks, but plenty of nem choices 15:15:03 03wheals02 07* 0.16-a0-413-g164a09e: Make the captain's cutlass disarmingly good. 10(3 weeks ago, 7 files, 85+ 56-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=164a09eab877 15:15:03 03wheals02 07* 0.16-a0-414-g55d8690: Remove 'special' from some unrands. 10(2 weeks ago, 1 file, 2+ 4-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=55d86902b412 15:15:03 03wheals02 07* 0.16-a0-415-g7dbc7e1: Only use the 'special' unrand flag for what it's claimed to be for. 10(2 weeks ago, 4 files, 6+ 8-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=7dbc7e1b4993 15:15:08 most of them were nchoices 15:15:28 wheals: neato 15:15:36 -!- ldf has joined ##crawl-dev 15:15:51 but yeah he has only one 15 runer 15:16:03 bmfx actually has two 15:16:08 !lm . t rune s=noun 15:16:09 7 milestones for gammafunk (t rune): decaying, silver, gossamer, slimy, demonic, magical, barnacled 15:16:35 !lm . t rune s=noun 15:16:38 7 milestones for Bloax (t rune): 2x serpentine, 2x decaying, gossamer, silver, barnacled 15:17:12 !lg * t ikiller~~crusher 15:17:13 15. Phlounder the Destroyer (L16 GrFE of Vehumet), blasted by an octopode crusher (iron shot) (kmap: cheibrodos_shoals_oceanic_diplomacy) on Shoals:1 on 2014-09-12 02:33:27, with 93309 points after 33732 turns and 6:12:46. 15:17:43 .gmap t 15:17:44 9. dredsubb the Covert (L13 VSVM of Okawaru), demolished by a dire elephant on Lair:5 (gammafunk_lair_enchanted_lake) on 2014-09-13 22:54:03, with 35273 points after 13899 turns and 0:55:18. 15:18:18 there was a surprising lack of competition on the speedrun front this tournament 15:18:20 which is tragic 15:19:22 clearly to help faciliate speed running we need to unnerf summoning :v 15:19:55 Speedrunning and summoning work together? 15:20:05 I always assumed the opposite. 15:20:10 !hs * 15:20:11 3580898. Sapher the Genius of the Arcane (L26 NaWz of Sif Muna), escaped with the Orb and 15 runes on 2012-10-05 09:05:14, with 65369553 points after 21895 turns and 15:06:14. 15:20:17 now that the tourney is over, any devs using windows/cygwin/mingw want to try out my win32 crashlog patch? https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=98 15:20:35 so 15:20:37 tourney's over 15:20:42 push big things imo!!! 15:20:48 (maybe move Ru into trunk now?) 15:20:52 +1 15:21:07 sacrifice trunk 15:21:14 sacrifice development 15:21:31 i'm planning to try to resolve as many of the "patch" issues on mantis as possible 15:21:34 (btw what's currently Ruthless Efficiency should be Ru's banner for 0.16) 15:21:38 probably i won't do anything more today though 15:21:43 sac branch 15:21:51 Grunt: and new ruthless efficiency will be the aut one? 15:21:56 I'm going to push mnoleg stuff now, and tweak the tentacle ai later 15:22:12 !learn del ru_to_do 15:22:12 Deleted ru to do[1/1]: acquirement 15:22:18 wheals: yes 15:22:18 Vehumet is a fan of ARBITRARY UNITS OF WINNING 15:22:30 ARBITARY UNITS OF ENDING IN HELLFIRE 15:22:43 vehumet likes when you win 10 times during the course of the tournament 15:22:58 s/times/consecutive &/ 15:23:06 "is a fan of" and "likes" for gods is amusing; it's like they're very active of Facebook or something 15:23:10 so, I don't get to try to finish my Ru game tonight/tomorrow? 15:23:35 the experimental branch won't be deleted immediately, since it'd require a webtile srestart 15:23:36 !lg * nostalgia 15:23:37 2960. ryw the Basher (L4 OMRe), slain by a gnoll on D:3 on 2014-09-08 23:33:15, with 185 points after 3749 turns and 0:09:49. 15:23:38 so your game should be fine 15:24:06 ah good. 15:24:07 what's wrong with a webtiles restart? 15:24:14 the |amethyst hates it!! 15:24:14 !learn add ru_to_do allow some (or all) powers under silence/confuse; don't pick up duplicate rings under sac hand unless octopode; "you're already wearing one cursed rings!"; mark Enslave useless under sac love; some unid'd wand marked as useless under sac love 15:24:14 ru to do[1/1]: allow some (or all) powers under silence/confuse; don't pick up duplicate rings under sac hand unless octopode; "you're already wearing one cursed rings!"; mark Enslave useless under sac love; some unid'd wand marked as useless under sac love 15:24:30 wheals: restarting webtiles boots everyone, doesn't it? 15:24:32 but restarting just to remove a branch is not really necessary 15:24:37 wait 15:24:39 which experimental branch? just wondering? 15:24:44 iashol 15:24:45 bh: maybe they'll learn to play console!!! 15:24:49 (aka Ru) 15:24:52 isn't Enslave basically magic mind control 15:24:56 !lg wheals s=tiles 15:24:56 3213 games for wheals: 3210x false, 3x true 15:24:59 How would sacrifice love prevent that from working 15:25:03 LET THEM PLAY THEIR CONSOLE 15:25:12 sacrifice console??? 15:25:12 magic love is blocked too 15:25:14 Lightli: sac love prevents anything from ever loving you under any circumstances 15:25:20 def. sacrifice tiles over sacrifice console 15:25:26 I agree with gammafunk. 15:25:27 slaves usually don't love you 15:25:45 ah ok gammafunk. for some reason I never put up an Iashol experimental on CBRO 15:25:52 Bloax: magical slaves do 15:25:53 wow, really? 15:26:05 gammafunk: yeah, it was CSZO only 15:26:07 that server even has like plutonians and other bloax madness 15:26:23 my stuff is on dbro 15:26:29 oh right 15:27:01 -!- Brannock_ has joined ##crawl-dev 15:28:58 -!- wheals has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:31:01 -!- Brannock has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 15:32:35 where's the best place to start to learn the clua stuff I need to know to start bot writing? clua.h and clua.cc didn't seem immediately useful. grepping returned a lot of stuff 15:34:41 -!- bh has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:35:47 -!- Yermak has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:38:09 johnstein: I'd guess start by reading qw.rc, xw.rc, gw.rc 15:38:21 -!- ldf has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:38:23 and there's rw.rc 15:38:56 -!- NilsBloodaxe has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:39:07 -!- Ratboiler has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:40:29 what's the chance of Agnes' lajatang being distortion-branded? 15:40:30 ok. that was my original plan. wheals suggested I check out the source. I'll just flounder around a bit 15:40:32 ty 15:40:54 by the way, can i say that staff vault is rather common in depths? i seem to be getting it nearly every game these days 15:42:17 -!- NOPE_ has joined ##crawl-dev 15:42:50 NOPE 15:44:43 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 15:45:11 -!- hurdos1 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 15:45:21 johnstein: the files to look at are l_*.cc, e.g. l_you.cc is where the "player status" functions like you.hp() and such are defined 15:46:41 simmarine: yes it is too common 15:49:21 !tstats 16 t0.15 15:49:30 Stats after 16 days (t0.15): 2326 players, 706 runers, 370 winners, 992 wins, 58007 games, winrate 1.71%, total player time 3y+317d+15:29:03. 15:49:31 !tstats 16 t0.14 15:49:48 Stats after 16 days (t0.14): 2318 players, 743 runers, 325 winners, 743 wins, 56533 games, winrate 1.31%, total player time 4y+34d+2:06:55. 15:50:14 downstairs covered by a plant 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=8957 by sim 15:55:37 -!- rast has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:55:42 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 15:57:13 -!- tsohg has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:57:16 -!- edlothiol has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:58:11 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 16:00:50 -!- Crehl has quit [Quit: Killed by a kitten.] 16:01:45 -!- Big_guy has quit [] 16:02:24 Ty elliptic 16:03:21 -!- Kramin has joined ##crawl-dev 16:06:32 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 16:09:00 !tstats 16 t0.13 16:09:14 Stats after 16 days (t0.13): 1771 players, 495 runers, 246 winners, 603 wins, 44041 games, winrate 1.37%, total player time 2y+349d+6:19:14. 16:09:18 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 16:11:29 03|amethyst02 07* 0.16-a0-416-g2e49386: Avoid reading uninitialised feature override entries. 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 10+ 4-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=2e493867118d 16:11:31 -!- MrPlanck_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:12:37 -!- Kramin has left ##crawl-dev 16:13:50 03gammafunk02 07* 0.16-a0-417-ga8b3e6b: Turn Mnoleg into a something even more horrible 10(4 weeks ago, 10 files, 89+ 25-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=a8b3e6b4fc90 16:13:50 03gammafunk02 07* 0.16-a0-418-ga8a4030: Tweak a mnoleg vault 10(4 weeks ago, 1 file, 6+ 6-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=a8a40303db48 16:13:50 03gammafunk02 07* 0.16-a0-419-ge04fdf7: Klown around in some Mnoleg vaults 10(3 weeks ago, 1 file, 30+ 29-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=e04fdf7e4fe7 16:14:17 !send Grunt XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX 16:14:17 Sending XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX to Grunt. 16:15:08 -!- fridurmus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:16:26 -!- syllogism has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:17:05 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 16:17:52 |amethyst: thanks for the fix! so was it just a matter of my uninitialised memory not having anything that corresponded to a double-width character in it? 16:18:43 <|amethyst> wheals: having completely random junk anyway 16:19:41 <|amethyst> possibly on your system either the memory was either all zeros, or your libc says all unknown characters have width 1 16:19:58 <|amethyst> s/was either/was/ 16:21:05 <|amethyst> whereas I suspect GNU libc says unknown characters have a width of 0 16:21:24 <|amethyst> or possibly it's different locale settings 16:23:09 -!- jacobian_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:23:35 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 16:24:03 sack of spiders still hints that webs are produced still but that isnt a thing anymore apparently 16:24:23 <|amethyst> wheals: the reason you didn't get a worse error is that map<>::operator[] inserts an entry if there wasn't one there 16:24:41 oh 16:25:18 <|amethyst> wheals: (but those entries were uninitialised because FixedVector<>::FixedVector() doesn't do anything) 16:25:24 yeah 16:26:10 somehow i thought clear_feature_overrides would set everything to 0, though now i see that couldn't really be the case 16:26:12 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:26:40 <|amethyst> yeah, it just removes all the (key,value) pairs from the maps 16:28:03 my solution probably would have been to do go ahead and do that in clear_feature_overrides, which might be more wasteful but would avoid all the C++-ness in your solution ;) 16:28:12 -!- Zannick has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:28:42 simmarine: It still can web foes directly if I'm not mistken 16:28:48 oh really? thats neat 16:28:57 <|amethyst> wheals: if you're going to have all the entires there, you probably want a FixedVector rather than a map 16:29:07 <|amethyst> wheals: since the keys are enums, they are essentially integers 16:29:54 oh, true 16:29:55 <|amethyst> wheals: or a FixedArray I guess, since you have a second dimension 16:30:14 -!- Zannick has joined ##crawl-dev 16:30:26 hehe, but who doesn't like fixedvectors of fixedvectors? 16:30:54 <|amethyst> wheals: FAs are FVs or FVs 16:30:58 <|amethyst> s/or/of/ 16:31:07 oh, typical 16:31:15 i guess they don't have the "> > 16:31:19 " monstrosity 16:31:42 * wheals wants C++11 just so we can use ">>" 16:32:11 <|amethyst> just use a typedef 16:32:24 <|amethyst> even in the class definition FA doesn't have > > 16:32:27 -!- Pepe has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 16:32:37 <|amethyst> typedef FixedVector Column; FixedVector mData; 16:34:36 -!- Tedronai has quit [Quit: leaving] 16:36:17 wow, d_nrm is a pretty great variable name 16:36:42 #crawlcode 16:42:04 <|amethyst> Lasty: sadly, to get the full impact of that function, you need more than 140 characters 16:42:31 Yikes. 16:42:46 Surely there's something better d_nrm. 16:43:51 -!- tsohg has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:44:04 !learn e loopy s/$/ {dlb} 16:44:04 loopy[1/1]: stands for General Purpose Looping Variable {dlb} 16:45:04 wow, he called it 'i' once 16:48:11 -!- Kramin has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 16:48:52 <|amethyst> I don't see why you would use 'loopy' instead of 'i' 16:49:51 ask dlb 16:50:55 03|amethyst02 07* 0.16-a0-420-g10d8c9f: Constify. 10(34 minutes ago, 1 file, 4+ 4-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=10d8c9f6a556 16:50:55 03|amethyst02 07* 0.16-a0-421-gd787d97: Be less loopy. 10(40 seconds ago, 2 files, 3+ 3-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=d787d97d5594 16:51:13 -!- raskol has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 16:51:40 rip 16:52:23 neil can be a little loopy at times 16:52:48 -!- CacoS has quit [] 16:54:09 !gamesby neil t 16:54:10 neil (t) has played 106 games, between 2014-08-30 01:46:58 and 2014-09-08 13:07:54, won 0, high score 32057, total score 106238, total turns 274658, play-time/day 1:15:51, total time 12:38:37. 16:54:18 !hs neil t 16:54:18 106. neil the Brawler (L13 TrBe of Trog), slain by a 12-headed hydra on D:14 on 2014-09-01 18:53:45, with 32057 points after 11360 turns and 0:33:08. 16:54:54 12-headed, that doesn't sound good 16:55:04 <|amethyst> didn't berserk soon enough 16:55:21 -!- Zannick has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 16:55:22 can you somehow query for killer for max # of heads? 16:55:26 on a hydra, I mean 16:55:43 !lg . ikiller=hydra s=ckiller 16:55:43 No games for gammafunk (ikiller=hydra). 16:55:48 !lg . ikiller=~hydra s=ckiller 16:55:48 19 games for gammafunk (ikiller=~hydra): 14x a hydra, 3x the Lernaean hydra, a hydra zombie, a hydra skeleton 16:55:52 !lg * ckiller=hydra max=killer 16:55:53 19971. Surr the Severer (L15 MDFi of Okawaru), slain by a two-headed hydra on Vaults:3 on 2010-06-08 23:40:11, with 70866 points after 28009 turns and 2:34:26. 16:55:57 !lg * ckiller=hydra min=killer 16:56:01 19971. Surr the Severer (L16 DDBe of Trog), slain by a 11-headed hydra on Swamp:5 on 2010-07-19 15:12:13, with 114904 points after 37770 turns and 3:15:31. 16:56:01 !lg . ikiller=~hydra s=killer 16:56:01 19 games for gammafunk (ikiller=~hydra): 6x a seven-headed hydra, 4x an eight-headed hydra, 3x the 27-headed Lernaean hydra, 2x a five-headed hydra, a four-headed hydra, a six-headed hydra skeleton, a six-headed hydra, a five-headed hydra zombie 16:56:06 alphabetical sort there i guess 16:56:13 !lg * ckiller=hydra s=-killer 16:56:13 19971 games for * (ckiller=hydra): an one-headed hydra, 7x a one-headed hydra, 63x a 18-headed hydra, 69x a 20-headed hydra, 78x a 19-headed hydra, 85x a 17-headed hydra, 94x a two-headed hydra, 116x a 16-headed hydra, 155x a 15-headed hydra, 238x a 14-headed hydra, 263x a three-headed hydra, 299x a 13-headed hydra, 356x a 12-headed hydra, 483x a 11-headed hydra, 586x a hydra, 594x a ten-headed hy... 16:56:20 <|amethyst> !lg !lg . ikiller=~hydra killer~~twenty-headed 16:56:21 No games for lg (. ikiller=~hydra killer~~twenty-headed). 16:56:31 <|amethyst> !lg !lg . ikiller=~hydra killer~~20-headed 16:56:31 No games for lg (. ikiller=~hydra killer~~20-headed). 16:56:40 !lg * killer~~one-headed 16:56:41 9. magicpoints the Tainter (L9 NaVM of Cheibriados), slain by a one-headed hydra (kmap: hangedman_ranch) on D:8 on 2014-08-12 23:40:51, with 1985 points after 2521 turns and 0:31:27. 16:56:45 amazing, aside from lerny, I've never been killed by a hydra with more than 8 heads 16:56:50 how embarrassing 16:56:51 classic magicpoints 16:57:02 !lg * killer~~one-headed s=killer 16:57:02 9 games for * (killer~~one-headed): 7x a one-headed hydra, an one-headed hydra, a one-headed hydra zombie 16:57:08 -!- Zannick has joined ##crawl-dev 16:57:14 an one-headed hydra 16:57:21 one-headed hydra zombie, that's really low 16:57:30 -!- fridurmus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:57:34 !lg * killer~~an_one-headed 16:57:42 1. Stormfox the Martial Artist (L12 MfTm of Sif Muna), slain by an one-headed hydra on Lair:5 on 2009-05-13 21:09:35, with 15439 points after 16288 turns and 2:38:04. 16:58:09 ??grammer 16:58:09 grammer[1/1]: You disappears! 16:58:32 Ashenzari warns you, "You is." 16:58:52 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:59:14 Ashenzari warns the yaktaur wielding a crossbow of flaming and quivering six bolts of penetration, "You is." 16:59:40 fr: god pennance where the god gives its abilities to hostiles 16:59:50 gozag does that 17:00:02 well, he gives them potions for free 17:00:12 quite uncharacteristic of g 17:00:17 s/he/g 17:00:23 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 17:01:07 !lg * killer~~18-headed s=killer 17:01:07 63 games for * (killer~~18-headed): 63x a 18-headed hydra 17:01:12 so i guess that bug is still here? 17:01:18 !lg * killer~~18-headed 17:01:18 63. gw the Cleaver (L10 DDGl of Makhleb), slain by a 18-headed hydra on D:9 (minmay_distorted_concentric_squares) on 2014-09-07 03:04:46, with 4247 points after 8696 turns and 0:10:55. 17:01:22 Vehumet gifts the ancient lich a spell. The ancient lich gestures. You are caught in a great blast of fire! 17:01:34 excellent, you can credit gw for it in the fix 17:02:43 !lg gw killer~~11-headed 17:02:44 2. gw the Grappler (L12 TrMo of Qazlal), slain by a 11-headed hydra on Lair:3 (infiniplex_staircase_pool) on 2014-09-11 06:35:36, with 18002 points after 14362 turns and 0:11:20. 17:03:36 !lg gw kmap=~grunt s=kmap 17:03:37 8 games for gw (kmap=~grunt): 2x grunt_livestock, grunt_ministairs_6, grunt_potential, grunt_ministairs_10, grunt_tengu_nest, grunt_temple_overflow_champion_of_chaos, grunt_lair_entry_elf_guard_hut 17:03:52 !lg qw t kmap=~grunt s=kmap 17:03:53 8 games for qw (t kmap=~grunt): 2x grunt_spider_rune_island, grunt_enter_depths_giant_problem, grunt_crosshair, grunt_snake_rune_serpentine_throne, grunt_megastairs_1, grunt_spider_rune_circles, grunt_spider_rune_parallel 17:04:00 top killer a food vault, that's funny 17:06:51 -!- siepu has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:06:55 -!- kroki has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:07:54 -!- tabstorm has joined ##crawl-dev 17:08:21 is qw particularly bad at running away? 17:09:11 -!- Zannick has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 17:10:15 qw is a brave robitt 17:10:25 who doesn't afraid of no splatting 17:15:22 -!- tsohg has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:15:26 -!- falu has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.0] 17:15:29 -!- Zannick has joined ##crawl-dev 17:16:57 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 17:18:48 Unstable branch on crawl.lantea.net updated to: 0.16-a0-421-gd787d97 (34) 17:21:10 so is it time to start merging branches 17:21:20 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 17:21:53 looks like yes 17:24:28 so would it be a "bad thing" if darken_beyond_range = false also disabled the o flashing? 17:25:09 on second thought, I'll just make it its own option. 17:26:24 -!- Zannick has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:26:39 i think sharing an option is fine 17:27:13 it'd be nice to keep the number of options from increasing unnecessarily 17:28:00 -!- morphix0 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:28:05 -!- Zannick has joined ##crawl-dev 17:31:48 -!- SomeStupidGirl has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 17:32:36 what is "o flashing"? 17:32:37 perhaps it could use the animation option 17:32:53 gammafunk: the screen flashes when you press o with a monster on screen 17:33:00 ah, ok 17:33:28 wheals: view_delay or tile_misc_anim? 17:33:47 doesn't exist in trunk yet 17:33:54 :P 17:35:24 -!- ChaosBreaker has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:35:25 %branch animations 17:35:25 Branch animations: http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=log;h=refs/heads/animations 17:36:18 -!- lrvs has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:36:47 when is 0.15.1? 17:37:04 |amethyst: are you going to merge rip_callbacks soon? 17:37:42 ontoclasm: i assume tomorrow, 0.14.1 was the day after tournament 17:37:48 ok 17:38:07 i already pushed all the stuff i needed to, just wondering 17:39:08 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:44:38 03doy02 07* 0.16-a0-422-gb33379e: allow multi-attacks from monsters with more than one base attack 10(6 weeks ago, 2 files, 8+ 4-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=b33379efe7d4 17:44:38 03doy02 07* 0.16-a0-423-g28a7641: buff serpent of hell a bit 10(6 weeks ago, 8 files, 86+ 47-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=28a7641af0b1 17:44:38 03doy02 07* 0.16-a0-424-g5bba396: also give serpent of hell summon dragon, because why not 10(6 weeks ago, 1 file, 3+ 3-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=5bba3965cbf4 17:44:38 03doy02 07* 0.16-a0-425-gaae177e: buff the cocytus and dis variants a bit 10(5 weeks ago, 2 files, 4+ 4-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=aae177ee3624 17:44:38 03doy02 07* 0.16-a0-426-gaa16617: few more tweaks 10(5 weeks ago, 2 files, 8+ 8-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=aa166173aeaf 17:44:38 03doy02 07* 0.16-a0-427-g61def2c: note "three-headed" in serpent of hell descriptions 10(5 weeks ago, 1 file, 9+ 9-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=61def2c5744f 17:44:38 03doy02 07* 0.16-a0-428-gdea17f3: better message for crystal spear breath 10(5 weeks ago, 1 file, 4+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=dea17f3fb0a4 17:44:38 03doy02 07* 0.16-a0-429-g131e6f3: swap out flash freeze for glaciate 10(5 weeks ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=131e6f3a5d94 17:44:41 -!- tcsc has quit [Quit: computer sleeping] 17:44:53 -!- roctavian has joined ##crawl-dev 17:44:53 ontoclasm: i see you started doing unrands! i actually started doing those too 17:44:53 roctavian: sweet 17:44:53 and luckily i haven't done any that you've done 17:44:53 i've done doom knight and sharnga but haven't pushed them yet 17:44:53 (but if you did them they'd probably be better) 17:44:53 so far i've done jihad/zonguldruk/doom knight/laj of order/sprig knife/icy dagger 17:44:53 -!- Stelpa has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:44:53 awesome 17:44:53 though no shadows on them so i haven't submitted them yet 17:44:54 i can easily make my doom knight version into e.g. bloodbane 17:44:54 sordz 17:45:00 arga is my favorite of the ones i've done so far 17:45:19 it looks really good 17:45:42 three... headed 17:45:51 * ontoclasm stares accusingly at doy 17:45:52 yeah, might need a new tile(: 17:45:58 could corrosion be logical 17:46:02 did you seriously give serpent of hell glaciate 17:46:06 instead of Corr(-6) = AC-18 17:46:09 potatolizard: no, flash freeze 17:46:15 oh 17:46:32 Bloax: corr(-6) is ac-10 :Y 17:46:56 maybe it should just show the number of stacks 17:47:10 ontoclasm: http://imgur.com/twOYSkK 17:47:17 corr(-foo) is slaying malus, it shows up directly in your AC 17:47:29 and yes the number of stacks would probably be a lot less confusing 17:47:37 it's not like you have to know the exact slaying malus anyway 17:47:37 nice 17:48:28 zonguldruk is kinda boring looking, i just made it bastard swordy and like the old tile 17:49:27 ??zonguldrok 17:49:27 sword of zonguldrok[1/3]: +9,+9 bastard sword of {reaping} (kills with the sword reanimate as friendly undead). All corpses not killed by this sword will immediately reanimate as hostile undead that do not provide XP. Hope you have some permafood (or IOOD or disintegrate)! Even wielding this is bad if you worship one of the good gods. 17:49:27 -!- tsohg has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:50:12 imo make it a double sword >.> 17:50:14 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 17:50:20 :) 17:51:04 i also have some quotes for item descriptions, but that's a separate thing to consider, and later on 17:52:07 anyways gotta go 17:52:16 ciao 17:52:31 if you wanna put shadows on those and put 'em in, go ahead. but i can also finish them later 17:52:36 btw onto, I still need a tile for Ru's altar 17:52:52 is the last one the plutonium sword 17:53:06 Bloax: jihad 17:53:11 o 17:53:19 Lasty: oh yeah >.> 17:53:19 needs an orange aura then 17:53:21 plutonium sword is a sweet looking fuel tube 17:53:36 -!- roctavian has quit [] 17:54:19 -!- nicolae- has joined ##crawl-dev 17:54:33 -!- tsohg has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:56:24 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:57:21 ??zonguldrok[2 17:57:21 zonguldrok's shrine[1/1]: Boring zombies and skeletons slowly replace all of the gravestones over time: once they're all gone, pass through the new door and a few skeletal warriors to find Zonguldrok's tombstone, which then is replaced with an antique lich when you go for the loot. 17:57:32 ??zonguldrok[3 17:57:32 sword of zonguldrok[3/3]: It's not that dreadful! 18:01:30 !lm . br.enter=lair min=turns 18:01:30 259. [2014-08-29 23:53:33] gammafunk the Caller (L7 DESu of Sif Muna) entered the Lair of Beasts on turn 2182. (D:8) 18:02:02 !lm * cv>=0.15-a br.enter=lair min=turns 18:02:06 35000. [2014-04-21 02:06:04] ABBAdon the Grappler (L7 TrMo of Cheibriados) entered the Lair of Beasts on turn 563. (D:8) 18:02:34 it'd be neat if reaping was draining that triggered on 100% of hits along with the current effect 18:03:25 instead of unbraded + poor man's raise dead 18:18:59 -!- PolkaDot has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 18:19:05 -!- Naphistim has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:21:51 -!- reaverb has joined ##crawl-dev 18:21:57 Hmm, 0.15 tourney is over. 18:22:13 -!- Zooty has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:22:49 my perfect record of never dying during the tourney still holds 18:23:07 nicolae-: So you abandon doomed characters :D 18:23:18 no i don't actually play online 18:23:45 ??offline 18:23:45 offline[1/1]: doesn't count 18:23:55 (I'm assuming that's the joke, correct?) 18:23:58 (yes) 18:23:59 (yes) 18:24:28 i play offline tiles, i'm basically super uncool 18:24:35 like, huge glasses, pocket protector 18:25:44 03doy02 07* 0.16-a0-430-g78386af: shake the viewport around a bit when shatter is cast 10(4 weeks ago, 3 files, 28+ 4-) 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18:25:44 03PleasingFungus02 {doy} 07* 0.16-a0-436-g6e0e16c: Constify. 10(4 days ago, 1 file, 3+ 3-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=6e0e16c2b17b 18:25:44 03doy02 07* 0.16-a0-437-gbaa9e9e: pass in the colour too 10(3 days ago, 2 files, 9+ 7-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=baa9e9e2148b 18:25:44 03doy02 07* 0.16-a0-438-g05b12c0: better orb animation 10(3 days ago, 3 files, 15+ 10-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=05b12c06e101 18:25:44 03doy02 07* 0.16-a0-439-ga5c5d93: use darkgrey for the console orb animation 10(3 days ago, 1 file, 5+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=a5c5d9334075 18:25:44 ... and 10 more commits 18:27:03 oh god all the commits 18:27:04 aaaaaa 18:27:19 guess Bloax needs to be committed now 18:27:41 doy is really committed to those commits 18:29:00 so 18:29:18 if ru ever gets put into trunk, could I get my experimental savefile ported over too 18:29:54 -!- xnavy has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:30:40 Lightli: Only if you make a patch that corrects the enum stuff. 18:30:55 oh 18:31:39 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:32:16 yeah, I was asking because that would mean I got to win a Ru worshipper that did stuff like get the "cant train armor skill" sacrifice as a Dr :v 18:32:42 -!- Wolfechu has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:34:03 -!- SomeStupidGirl has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 18:34:42 Lightli: easier to get that by introducing bugs into trunk 18:34:45 -!- SSG has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 18:36:28 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 18:36:35 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 18:38:38 -!- mamgar has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:38:38 -!- qoala has quit [Quit: Abscond!] 18:39:09 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 18:44:46 -!- gigantic_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:51:04 -!- Nabalzbhf has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 18:52:30 -!- Nabalzbhf has joined 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quit [Quit: Leaving.] 19:14:41 -!- endou_____ is now known as endou____ 19:15:35 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 19:17:13 reaverb: Are you planning to do a great big rebase for Ru? 19:17:27 gmmafunk: I don't know yet :D 19:17:38 s/gmmafunk/gammafunk 19:17:46 seems like that'd be ideal from the standpoint of the commit history, but also a good deal of work 19:18:07 Yeah, merging is easier <_< >_> 19:18:28 I'd be curious as to what |amethyst thinks about that 19:18:54 https://github.com/mhagger/git-imerge makes it a bit less work 19:19:14 reaverb: are you working on getting Ru added to trunk now? 19:19:17 Too much history re-writing can be bad, saw that when I did it with the new_nemelex rebased and did things like drop tiles. 19:19:46 Lasty: I'm on semi-hitaus from Crawl development now that my classes started, Sorry. 19:21:14 doy: Hmm, interesting. 19:21:14 Well, that's more than fair. 19:21:16 reaverb has too much class to work on crawl 19:21:16 Does that mean that someone else will likely do it? 19:21:34 -!- Bloax has quit [Quit: Error: Bloax not found] 19:21:42 Lasty: What exactly is "it"? 19:21:48 merge in Ru 19:21:53 (or rebase or whatever) 19:24:21 03ontoclasm02 07* 0.16-a0-450-gd52796b: Fix some rims 10(5 hours ago, 1 file, 1+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=d52796bc0d16 19:24:21 03ontoclasm02 07* 0.16-a0-451-gcd1393a: Bloodbane, Prune, & Sharnga tiles 10(2 minutes ago, 5 files, 0+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=cd1393a7cc7a 19:24:23 yeah it'll get done for sure 19:24:23 Hooray for gammafunk! :D 19:24:23 woo! 19:24:23 One minor thing I hate to mention: 19:24:23 (unrelated to Ru) 19:24:23 %git 3e76efd 19:24:23 07Grunt02 * 0.15.0-24-g3e76efd: argh no gratuitous floating point please 10(6 days ago, 1 file, 13+ 5-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=3e76efd4a66d 19:24:35 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 19:25:00 Does this strike anybody else as a little...difficult to read? " 2*umbra_mul < 3*umbra_div " is hard to pharse for example. 19:25:30 well he should space the operators, but it's basically just integer hijinks 19:25:31 i don't think that aspect is particularly hard to read 19:25:36 and i cleaned up the rest 19:25:49 it was difficult for me to read, but I'm not experienced with avoiding floats 19:27:09 if you divide both sides by 2 and by umbra_div it's pretty clear what's going on 19:27:49 %git abea0e8 19:27:49 07doy02 * 0.16-a0-343-gabea0e8: simplify 10(6 days ago, 1 file, 5+ 5-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=abea0e8f4a96 19:28:19 doy: Yes, thank you for that, hmm. 19:29:01 (I think two if statments might technically violate the coding conventions though? Would be easy to change that to and && anyway) 19:29:15 yeah, shrug 19:29:18 i thought it was clearer that way 19:29:26 but i don't have a strong opinion 19:29:59 gammafunk: Well I think having to do algerbra to figure out exactly what a piece of code is doing isn't a good sign :D 19:30:23 reaverb: Well, I'd disagree when the subject is integer arithmetic to avoid use of floats :p 19:30:34 now the code could be refactored at some higher level I guess 19:30:40 -!- bmfx has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:30:49 but sometimes you have to do the math (tm) 19:31:12 -!- Stelpa has quit [Changing host] 19:31:32 sometimes algebra is just one of those unavoidable things 19:32:17 Yes Ms. Smith, teacher of Algebra II, you had the last laugh, are you happy? 19:37:15 !lm * cv=0.16-a 19:37:15 206305. [2014-09-15 00:32:51] NotMyLeg the Stinger (L3 MuVM) killed Ijyb on turn 1728. (D:2) 19:37:15 ok I splatted it now you can put it in 19:37:15 %version 19:37:15 trunk: 0.16-a0-395-g6404e95; 0.15: 0.15.0-33-gdde9071; 0.14: 0.14.2; 0.13: 0.13.2; 0.12: 0.12.3; 0.11: 0.11.3; 0.10: 0.10.3-19-g6f05415 19:37:15 %git 19:37:15 07ontoclasm02 * 0.16-a0-451-gcd1393a: Bloodbane, Prune, & Sharnga tiles 10(14 minutes ago, 5 files, 0+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=cd1393a7cc7a 19:37:18 ??sharnga 19:37:18 sharnga[1/1]: the +8,+8 longbow of Krishna "Sharnga" {speed, Dex+3 SInv} 19:37:19 gammafunk: I guess it's just the speed vs. clarity trade-off, not sure how to deal with it. 19:37:21 reaverb: I'm sure the code could be refactored in some way to avoid stuff like that, but probably only through some kind of better abstraction I guess 19:37:22 just imagine if crawl code was used in Nasa missions 19:37:23 gammafunk: Yeah, I've had some ideas, not sure how good they are and probably won't execute them anytime soon. 19:37:23 add a comment saying what the simpler math expression is, maybe 19:37:24 "this is just a computation-friendly way to do " 19:37:25 The Lander's rockets engage! The Lander's rockets misfire. The Lander is lightly contanminated with magical energy. 19:37:26 -!- Brannock_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:37:27 -!- Zermako has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:37:27 -!- ketsa has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:37:27 -!- Nerem has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:37:36 -!- ketsa_ is now known as ketsa 19:38:01 yeah comments would help for that block I'm sure 19:38:40 -!- Sonata has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 19:40:16 well 19:40:19 what would help is unit tests 19:40:23 so if you didn't understand what the code is doing 19:40:31 you could look at the unit test and see what the expected inputs/outputs look like 19:41:34 -!- LordSloth has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:41:56 well there are just so many functions/methods in crawl; he don't even get close to having doxygen comments for all of them, let alone unit tests 19:42:03 s/he don't/we don't/ 19:42:07 -!- Zermako has quit [Client Quit] 19:42:42 -!- Zermako is now known as Zermako2 19:43:45 rough estimate by looking at TAGS says we have like 12.1k functions/methods 19:44:02 -!- Zermako2 has quit [Client Quit] 19:47:36 -!- dizzy__ is now known as kinggrahamofdave 19:53:20 -!- nicolae- has left ##crawl-dev 19:56:01 -!- Brannock_ has joined ##crawl-dev 20:00:41 -!- Kramin has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 20:03:05 -!- Siegurt has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20:05:52 -!- debo has quit [Quit: leaving] 20:06:09 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 20:08:01 -!- tsohg has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:10:14 -!- Brannock_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:10:30 -!- Brannock_ has joined ##crawl-dev 20:11:10 -!- Brannock_ has quit [Client Quit] 20:11:38 gammafunk: 80/20 rule. Just unit testing a few major function would probably help a lot. 20:11:46 (Like player_reacts()?) 20:12:06 Yeah probably it would; I have no experience with unit testing myself 20:12:30 -!- hauzer has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:12:31 (Same for me D:) 20:12:35 but that particular function we were talking about might not make it ot unit testing 20:13:03 reaverb: hopefully that comes up in class! 20:13:25 Chapter 4: So you'd you'd like to unit test a roguelike... 20:13:29 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20:13:52 Haha, not even taking programming courses yet : / 20:14:10 but I'm thinking of Majoring in computer science. 20:34:17 -!- gammafunk has quit [Quit: leaving] 20:42:36 -!- raskol has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20:42:54 -!- Nabalzbhf has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:44:45 -!- radinms has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 20:45:09 -!- cribo has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20:47:05 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 20:48:22 -!- Atwba has quit [Client Quit] 20:51:06 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 20:51:18 !git 20:51:18 %git 20:51:37 07ontoclasm02 * 0.16-a0-451-gcd1393a: Bloodbane, Prune, & Sharnga tiles 10(88 minutes ago, 5 files, 0+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=cd1393a7cc7a 20:52:51 -!- Nabalzbhf has joined ##crawl-dev 20:55:51 -!- tsohg has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 21:00:25 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 21:01:32 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 21:15:33 -!- tsohg has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 21:18:03 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Saindo] 21:18:26 -!- Nabalzbhf has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 21:20:47 -!- qoala has joined ##crawl-dev 21:21:47 -!- Ququman has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:26:54 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:28:18 03ontoclasm02 07* 0.16-a0-452-gb6b6e6b: Panlord weapon tiles 10(in the future, 5 files, 0+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=b6b6e6b4aa91 21:29:42 -!- schistosomatic has joined ##crawl-dev 21:32:00 ok i think i've drawn enough terrible anime weapons for one day 21:38:00 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 21:45:17 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 21:47:51 -!- tensorpudding has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 21:53:15 You mean amazing anime weapons 21:53:56 the sword of cerebov looks like something out of dark souls which is exactly what i was going for 21:54:43 this success brings me shame 21:55:15 -!- NearlyNeutral has quit [Quit: leaving] 21:57:22 ...considering what they look like, you should be able to glue asmo's and dispater's weapons together to make a caduceus 21:57:46 just jam the sceptre down in the middle there and apply some duct tape 21:57:55 ontoclasm: if it's anime, maybe give antaeus blue hair 21:58:05 mm 21:58:51 m, maybe antaeus-senpai will notice me then =u~u= 22:01:09 someone make a dark souls themed fork of crawl thx 22:05:55 I wonder, would jump-attack be better if it gave contam (maybe yellow after the third jump) instead of setting exh? 22:07:27 I'm not sure how much we randomize contam, but it certainly could give the same contam level as haste or invis gives after one usage (but it would give half of this, hence allowing two safe uses) 22:07:55 why would we want this? 22:08:11 well elliptic points out how doubling up the meaning of exh is kind of bad 22:08:27 jump attack isn't supposed to be magical though, is it? 22:08:31 yes it is 22:08:51 felids are "magic cats", and even the evokable form uses mp 22:08:59 actually, doesn't the felid form too? I forget 22:09:08 I think contaim makes it a bit too much like blinking? IIRC I said something about contaim way way back when you first proposed jump attack on the Tavern, I'll look it up. 22:09:28 oh, i didn't realize there were other forms of it besides the felid one 22:09:33 yeah 22:09:36 ??boots_of_jumping 22:09:36 jump attack[1/1]: Gained from boots of jumping or the innate Felid mutation. Attacks a target at range, after choosing a random, safe landing site adjacent to the monster. Causes exhaustion, can't be used while exhausted, ensnared, or in water. The boots have range 4, the mutation has range 3,4,5 by level. You can't stab with jump-attack. 22:10:02 are we just turning into nethack now, or what d: 22:10:17 well tbh jump-attack isn't very good, and I like the form of it used in shadow-step more 22:10:31 yeah, shadow-step is fun 22:10:37 the piety cost and other restrictions, and the fact that it's just a step kind of just work better 22:10:50 since you can still stab with it 22:11:57 the description says "Felids are natural jumpers", although that could of course be changed 22:12:06 i still think contam feels weird though 22:12:33 anyway, we overload Breath too 22:12:36 -!- Pluie has quit [Quit: Wah] 22:12:58 -!- Pluie has joined ##crawl-dev 22:13:17 yeah the theme is not really any concern here; they are "magic cats" and other species get "magic flight" 22:13:32 well Breath is only used by Breath attacks 22:13:37 hrm, zin? 22:13:40 I guess that uses it 22:14:20 zin uses it yes 22:14:22 and curare? 22:14:24 -!- AtomikKrab has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 22:14:26 ??curare 22:14:26 curare[1/2]: A type of poison that will slow you, poison you, and do large impact damage (called asphyxiation). To avoid it you can use stealth and eXamine to avoid being in any blowgun wielding creature's line of fire for too long. Poison resistance prevents the poisoning and asphyxiation, as well as the slowing (being undead will too). 22:14:31 ??curare[2 22:14:31 curare[2/2]: According to ogaz, you should carry curare around with you so that you can forget to use it and then feel like an idiot when you die. 22:14:43 the learndb entry should be edited to say 22:14:47 I'm pretty sure it's Breath though 22:16:54 yeah, it does 22:17:26 also, you can have multiple breath attacks (and spit counts as a breath attack too) 22:17:52 so i don't think overloading the meaning of exhaustion is any worse than the current situation with Breath 22:18:02 different breath attacks are certainly similar as abilities 22:18:13 exh is set by death's door and zerk and jump-attack 22:18:22 three basically totally unrelated things 22:18:27 death's door is weird 22:18:41 berserk and jump attack don't seem that weird 22:18:49 I said forever ago that we could use the Weak status as the Jump Attack cool down, that seems like it would require to much rebalancing now but I still sort of like that idea. 22:19:27 (DDoor was another thing where a cooldown was need from somewhere and Exh just happened to be convienant.) 22:19:32 yeah 22:19:43 Doesn't matter as much because DDoor Exh lasts like 3 turns IIRC. 22:19:56 -!- schistosoma has joined ##crawl-dev 22:20:07 I think weak is a bad match for jump, since it reduces the choices of what you'd do after using the ability 22:20:11 * reaverb has not ever actually had a character with Death's Door <_< >_> 22:20:13 jump and then don't melee 22:21:35 that kind of buff/debuff works better for swift since swift can accomplish its task of escape, which is the primary use of swift, or at least a reposition, and then what you'd do after that isn't impeded 22:21:42 but if you jump to reposition and are weak 22:21:57 now melee is discouraged 22:22:12 something like jump -> -swift would almost be better 22:22:15 also, jump+berserk seems like it would be pretty strong 22:22:33 Hmm, I haven't really used jump to reposition much, maybe I'm underestimating that. 22:22:57 the problem with jump intrinsicly is that's it's generally just not optimal to use in many repositioning situations 22:23:09 I would say like a vast majority 22:23:13 -!- schistosomatic has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 22:24:59 -!- Deckard_Pain has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 22:25:04 Hmm. 22:25:30 one think I really probably should do is remove the restrictions on flying/large enemies 22:25:33 blocking the path 22:25:41 I think that doesn't do anything interesting fundamentally 22:29:04 the warning for playing trunk games during the tournament isn't something I can fix, right? It will presumably get taken care of next compile? (n1000 mentioned it to me in ##crawl but I don't remember ever having to address this myself) 22:29:36 yeah, with the next rebuild 22:29:40 ty 22:29:43 johnstein: you could trigger a rebuild now I guess :) 22:29:45 %version 22:29:46 trunk: 0.16-a0-395-g6404e95; 0.15: 0.15.0-33-gdde9071; 0.14: 0.14.2; 0.13: 0.13.2; 0.12: 0.12.3; 0.11: 0.11.3; 0.10: 0.10.3-19-g6f05415 22:29:54 at least on cbro I mean 22:30:03 cszo and cao coming up in a couple hours I thin 22:30:04 k 22:30:05 I suppose I could 22:30:13 it's not a big deal I don't think 22:30:16 Pyromatic (L2 DsGl) ASSERT(!in_bounds(you.pos()) || !cell_is_solid(you.pos()) || you.wizmode_teleported_into_rock) in 'main.cc' at line 3127 failed. (D (Sprint)) 22:30:20 I guess you could argue for a rebuild now since the tourney ended, but yeah it's pretty close 22:30:22 reaverb: I started using jump more on my felid once I was in statueform 22:30:52 yeah under certain conditions like statue, maybe chei 22:30:57 felid statues can jump? 22:31:00 yes 22:31:02 and felid dragons 22:31:10 ..and felid everything else I guess 22:31:32 blame witches 22:31:36 fr: retheme lightning scales as Raiju scale barding 22:31:41 am I a witch then 22:31:43 and give it lightning jump 22:31:48 heh 22:31:49 -!- tcjsavannah has quit [Quit: tcjsavannah] 22:31:54 gammafunk: do you weigh less than a duck 22:31:56 rchandra: Sounds awesome, make a patch and we might push it :D 22:31:57 we still don't have a dog species 22:32:15 but lightning scales are already so good! 22:32:25 maybe some unrand boots of jumping 22:32:27 they'd lose sslith, of course 22:32:29 since we lost spider boots 22:32:30 rip 22:33:23 well what's funny is the first version of jump attack did attack enemies along the jump path 22:33:30 just like this "raiju jump" would 22:33:48 fr boots of the scorpion >.> 22:34:01 but actually it's kind of a bad thing, since as was pointed out you'd want to use it every fight 22:34:11 well maybe not every fight... 22:34:43 I still think lining up enemies was really fun, if kind of hard to balance. 22:39:11 well, lining up enemies is already still a thing for conjurers 22:39:13 (: 22:41:13 -!- simmarine_ is now known as simmarine 22:43:25 it's fun for conjurers 22:43:39 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:45:06 -!- Bullock has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:48:22 -!- Mamalque has quit [Client Quit] 22:49:05 -!- Fortescue_ is now known as Fortescue 22:49:26 -!- eb has quit [] 22:49:43 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 22:49:55 -!- Hailley has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 22:50:03 -!- jeanjacques has quit [Quit: quit] 22:55:13 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 22:56:10 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:57:12 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 23:02:23 -!- Nabalzbhf has joined ##crawl-dev 23:03:08 -!- reaverb1 has joined ##crawl-dev 23:03:58 -!- reaverb1 has quit [Client Quit] 23:04:15 -!- raskol has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 23:05:15 -!- reaverb has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 23:13:15 -!- hello has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:14:58 -!- tsohg has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 23:17:22 -!- st_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:18:39 -!- KurzedMetal has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:26:32 -!- PsiRedEye22 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 23:28:27 -!- tcsc has quit [Quit: computer sleeping] 23:33:12 -!- Deathawk_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 23:35:01 -!- Xen has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:40:43 -!- NOPE_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:44:58 -!- schistosoma is now known as schistosomatic 23:45:16 -!- magistern has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:52:31 -!- G-Flex has quit [Quit: Time for us to bug out.] 23:53:55 -!- xnavy has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 23:54:45 -!- G-Flex has joined ##crawl-dev 23:56:27 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]