00:00:23 feels kinda fast (both on and offline), and would be better if it was purple, maybe 00:00:26 I'll poke it 00:00:44 ... -1, -1? 00:01:10 oh, what kind of animation? 00:01:20 a ring rippling outward from the orb 00:01:25 neat 00:01:28 ya 00:01:47 totally want to do that throwing animation 00:01:53 ? 00:01:54 show the player tile moving like a projectile 00:01:58 haha 00:01:58 when the player is thrown 00:02:04 do it!!! 00:02:14 yeah, there are a couple of complications when I looked into it 00:02:15 but doable 00:03:56 -!- eb_ has quit [] 00:04:32 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.16-a0-366-g719852b (34) 00:06:26 gammafunk: is properly handling the background beneath the player one of those complicaitons? 00:06:31 in tiles 00:07:03 I'm actually not sure about that; it's just that the code handling the player tile is much more complex in general 00:07:09 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 00:07:19 the beam.cc code to get projectile tile for animation is very simple 00:07:26 since it's literally just one tile 00:07:53 -!- mong has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:08:06 oh right, we already had projectile animation code 00:08:17 -!- basho has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 00:08:23 yeah I think that the background isn't a problem per se 00:09:03 doy's new whole-screen animations probably wouldn't handle player-as-projectile properly on tiles. I forgot we had projectiles already. 00:09:03 yeah, right now i just have "not drawing" implemented by "drawing at -1, -1", which is kinda gross 00:09:06 I don't play tiles 00:09:12 should fix that 00:09:40 and didn't think too hard about what goes into ascii projectiles 00:10:05 doy: any thoughts about how you'd make the ring a proper orb purple? 00:10:05 -!- Kramin has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:10:28 hm. I should see how it looks in console 00:10:43 yeah, i don't think that'd be hard 00:10:51 If we could draw force drawing something arbitrary at given squares 00:11:30 for additional places to use the existing animations, the "collapsing ceilings" volcano would be a good fit for shaky. 00:11:36 i'm just doing something very simple at the moment, but expanding on it to allow different effects should be pretty easy to add 00:11:47 yeah, possibly 00:12:11 the fact that input is blocked during delays is something to watch out for 00:12:23 and now I'm trying to think of a way to make an earth wizlab work with giant stone (metal?) blocks sliding around the room with a big ka-crash when they hit 00:12:28 since you end up dropping keypresses if you're playing too fast 00:12:29 and that would be bad 00:12:35 hm. looks *okay* in console as pure black, but still a little fast. would be better if it was slower toward the center & faster toward the outside 00:12:41 yeah 00:12:42 if that makes sense 00:13:06 doy: it would be really nice if animations didn't do that :C 00:13:13 (block input) 00:13:35 well, they don't block input, they just delay it 00:13:41 but it's still confusing 00:13:42 -!- valrus has quit [Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 00:14:29 well, i guess maybe it's confusing, but it also slows down the game a lot in some cases 00:14:36 especially on ranged users 00:14:56 right 00:14:59 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 00:15:03 -!- SomeStupidGuy has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:15:03 so i think it should be fairly rare 00:15:39 and/or for effects that you're likely going to not be pressing keys immediately after anyway 00:15:43 like banishment 00:15:54 -!- svendre has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 00:21:31 <|amethyst> too bad this didn't happen before the removal of victory dancing 00:21:38 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:21:42 ? 00:21:47 <|amethyst> we could have detected victory dancing and cut to a montage 00:22:53 heh 00:29:34 oh, also, doy, constify your variables 00:29:44 ...nvm, I'll do it for you 00:30:05 that sounds like a constant pain 00:30:29 03PleasingFungus02 07[animations] * 0.16-a0-371-gd7212fd: Constify. 10(18 seconds ago, 1 file, 3+ 3-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=d7212fd6bfdb 00:30:48 and, boldly, I'm going to merge in one of my branches 00:30:57 because it's trivial and not going anywhere and I don't want to forget about it 00:30:59 brace yourself 00:31:14 %git HEAD^{nbrace} 00:31:14 Could not find commit HEAD^{nbrace} (git returned 128) 00:31:20 %git HEAD^{/nbrace} 00:31:20 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.16-a0-338-g13a2c82: Unbrace 10(4 days ago, 2 files, 4+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=13a2c82de8ee 00:31:35 no, that's the opposite 00:31:37 :p 00:31:37 PleasingFungus: imo no bracing 00:31:40 :) 00:32:27 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.16-a0-367-g4cfae82: Simplify. 10(4 weeks ago, 1 file, 1+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=4cfae820a20e 00:32:32 someday. someday, I will make my orb ghosts 00:34:01 -!- rubinko has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 00:35:16 !lm * !boring cv=0.13 br.enter=swamp / lg:br=swamp 00:35:18 265/1888 milestones for * (!boring cv=0.13 br.enter=swamp): N=265/1888 (14.04%) 00:35:24 !lm * !boring cv=0.15 br.enter=swamp / lg:br=swamp 00:35:26 233/1257 milestones for * (!boring cv=0.15 br.enter=swamp): N=233/1257 (18.54%) 00:35:32 !lm * !boring cv=0.15 br.enter=shoals / lg:br=shoals 00:35:34 206/1094 milestones for * (!boring cv=0.15 br.enter=shoals): N=206/1094 (18.83%) 00:35:39 !lm * !boring cv=0.13 br.enter=shoals / lg:br=shoals 00:35:40 310/1742 milestones for * (!boring cv=0.13 br.enter=shoals): N=310/1742 (17.80%) 00:35:49 !lm * !boring cv=0.13 br.enter=snake / lg:br=snake 00:35:52 314/1941 milestones for * (!boring cv=0.13 br.enter=snake): N=314/1941 (16.18%) 00:35:55 !lm * !boring cv=0.15 br.enter=snake / lg:br=snake 00:35:57 252/1233 milestones for * (!boring cv=0.15 br.enter=snake): N=252/1233 (20.44%) 00:38:12 !lm * !boring cv=0.15 br.enter=spider / lg:br=spider 00:38:14 201/1201 milestones for * (!boring cv=0.15 br.enter=spider): N=201/1201 (16.74%) 00:38:21 !lm * !boring cv=0.13 br.enter=spider / lg:br=spider 00:38:22 318/1851 milestones for * (!boring cv=0.13 br.enter=spider): N=318/1851 (17.18%) 00:38:23 -!- raskol has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 00:38:43 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 00:40:18 biggest buffs for swamp, which seems about right 00:40:46 also, check out that 1.2k entry count for swamp/snake/spider vs 1.0k for shoals 00:41:00 Ayutzia was saying 0.15 is terrible but he can't figure out why but it's probably because lair branches are terribly hard 00:41:06 rip 00:41:08 and you're forced into them 00:41:11 !lm * cv=0.15 br.enter=shoals x=avg(xl) 00:41:12 1197 milestones for * (cv=0.15 br.enter=shoals): avg(xl)=16.37 00:41:18 !lm * cv=0.15 br.enter=swamp x=avg(xl) 00:41:19 1375 milestones for * (cv=0.15 br.enter=swamp): avg(xl)=15.67 00:41:22 !lm * cv=0.15 br.enter=snake x=avg(xl) 00:41:24 1356 milestones for * (cv=0.15 br.enter=snake): avg(xl)=15.67 00:41:25 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 00:41:27 !lm * cv=0.15 br.enter=spider x=avg(xl) 00:41:28 1304 milestones for * (cv=0.15 br.enter=spider): avg(xl)=15.61 00:41:30 heh 00:41:50 people are SCARED of shoals 00:42:02 mega spooked 00:42:12 it's spooky. 00:42:50 !lm * cv=0.15 br.enter=shoals x=avg(xl) race=mf 00:42:51 36 milestones for * (cv=0.15 br.enter=shoals race=mf): avg(xl)=15.83 00:43:00 heh 00:43:07 !lm * cv=0.15 br.enter=shoals x=avg(xl) op 00:43:08 27 milestones for * (cv=0.15 br.enter=shoals op): avg(xl)=16.33 00:43:13 !lm * cv=0.15 br.enter=shoals x=avg(xl) !op !mf 00:43:14 1134 milestones for * (cv=0.15 br.enter=shoals !op !mf): avg(xl)=16.38 00:43:16 !lm * br.enter=vaults cv=0.15 x=avg(xl) 00:43:17 1677 milestones for * (br.enter=vaults cv=0.15): avg(xl)=18.68 00:43:20 hmm 00:43:22 no op advantage, huh. interesting 00:43:26 !lm * cv=0.15 br.enter=shoals x=avg(xl) gr 00:43:27 151 milestones for * (cv=0.15 br.enter=shoals gr): avg(xl)=16.66 00:43:29 strange 00:43:29 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 00:43:45 !lm * br.enter=depths cv=0.15 x=avg(xl) 00:43:46 1583 milestones for * (br.enter=depths cv=0.15): avg(xl)=20.02 00:44:05 Gr is really biased towards the poison branches, I'd imagine. 00:44:14 good point 00:44:28 Were you thinking permafly? 00:44:31 ya 00:44:44 !lm * cv=0.15 br.enter=shoals x=avg(xl) race=te 00:44:44 23 milestones for * (cv=0.15 br.enter=shoals race=te): avg(xl)=15.91 00:44:47 -!- Erppo has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 00:44:48 Aha! 00:45:02 Only .13 more than Mf. 00:46:06 very low sample size 00:46:20 I think that might be below statistical significance 00:46:43 !lm . br.enter=shoals 00:46:44 26. [2014-09-10 00:58:44] PleasingFungus the Spear-Bearer (L14 TeSu of Ashenzari) entered the Shoals on turn 21221. (Lair:6) 00:47:05 see, I alone biased it 00:47:50 !lg * !boring cv=0.15-a / won 00:47:51 2031/224311 games for * (!boring cv=0.15-a): N=2031/224311 (0.91%) 00:48:00 !lg * !boring cv=0.14-a / won 00:48:01 2173/319207 games for * (!boring cv=0.14-a): N=2173/319207 (0.68%) 00:48:16 -!- agentgt has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.7] 00:48:32 !lg * !boring cv=0.13-a / won 00:48:33 1620/229731 games for * (!boring cv=0.13-a): N=1620/229731 (0.71%) 00:49:11 !lg ayutzia !boring cv=0.13-a / won 00:49:12 1/662 games for ayutzia (!boring cv=0.13-a): N=1/662 (0.15%) 00:49:14 !lg ayutzia !boring cv=0.15-a / won 00:49:14 6/263 games for ayutzia (!boring cv=0.15-a): N=6/263 (2.28%) 00:50:26 !tell wheals LogicNinja: fuck ghostcrabs forever. 00:50:26 PleasingFungus: OK, I'll let wheals know. 00:50:27 !tell wheals LogicNinja: fuck ghostcrabs forever. 00:50:27 gammafunk: OK, I'll let wheals know. 00:50:30 ahahaha 00:50:40 perfection 00:53:36 -!- RiotInferno1 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:55:15 hm. is an alternative win condition of "take the Orb to a down-stairs on abyss:5 while following Lugonu" actually a good idea? 00:55:30 it would be Different. 00:55:46 can't you just gate yourself? 00:55:52 I guess it would be disallowed? 00:55:55 probably a little too easy to escape to a:1 from z:5. 00:55:57 yeah. 00:56:02 ok, I'm gonna cross it off the list. 00:56:15 going through old questionable to-do items. 00:56:33 now you grab the golden rune with the orb and become a mummy, resting with the eternal power of the ORB 00:56:38 that's a win condition right there 00:57:06 I guess you can't have ever entered tomb 00:57:25 let's go full chrono trigger; like 13 different endings 00:57:30 depending on where you take the orb 00:58:00 eh, taking the ORB to tomb:3 is about as far as taking it to d:0, and requires you to have done tomb, which is punishment enough 00:58:07 re require not having entered before 00:58:28 well it's significantly more dangerou with orb summons 00:58:47 as implojin taught us so hilariously 00:58:55 best tomb death imo 00:58:59 I guess trying to encourage orbrun tomb is cool 00:59:12 yeah I'm obviously not very serious, but it would be better than the abyss one 00:59:19 mega high bar 00:59:23 ?/implojin 00:59:23 Matching entries (1): tragedy[5]: !lg implojin mifi place=tomb:2 -tv:$ 00:59:30 alternate win condition: enter Forest with the Orb 00:59:30 recommend you watch that tv some time 00:59:36 it is quite amusing 00:59:39 I think I did a long time ago 00:59:42 ah ok 00:59:50 if it's what I'm thinking of it was good 00:59:57 hellwing? 01:00:00 -!- espressodan has joined ##crawl-dev 01:00:04 !lg implojin mifi place=tomb:2 -tv:$ 01:00:05 1. Implojin, XL27 MiFi, T:78118 requested for FooTV (telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org). 01:00:24 -!- Kramin has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 01:01:25 what if picking up the orb disabled escape to the abyss 01:01:31 then the alternate win condition thing would make sense 01:01:32 that was gfunk's suggestion 01:01:42 idk. 01:02:14 oh god right the worst tele in the world 01:02:15 ah yes 01:02:16 I remember this 01:02:21 we all went nuts 01:02:23 watching this 01:02:25 x99 01:02:26 nice 01:02:33 RUN AWAY WHILST THOU CAN 01:02:44 since it unfolded in tiles chat in realtime 01:02:48 with like 27 spectators 01:02:52 the whole cszo crew 01:05:00 fr: you can bring the orb to the royal jelly as a jiyvaite for the slime ending 01:05:00 searching and seraching, trying to find where he went wrong 01:05:00 and not a single soul 01:05:00 noticed the tele 01:05:00 before it was too late 01:05:00 +0 boots of Terror 01:05:05 oh, neat, someone already did one of my to-do items 01:05:23 -!- tsohg has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:05:37 he has a really really inappropriate weapon for orbrun tomb 01:05:38 I just noticed 01:05:49 -!- rchandra is now known as backslashecho 01:05:56 well implojin is very very good, but 01:06:04 oops I guess 01:06:04 -!- backslashecho is now known as rchandra 01:06:19 -!- Stoats has quit [Client Quit] 01:06:32 !gamesby implojin 01:06:33 implojin has played 1289 games, between 2012-03-11 07:40:33 and 2014-03-22 13:59:21, won 56 (4.3%), high score 31226665, total score 419252963, total turns 11724265, play-time/day 1:46:22, total time 54d+19:26:48. 01:06:39 !lg implojin 01:06:40 1289. Implojin the Shatterer (L27 TeSk of The Shining One), escaped with the Orb and 5 runes on 2014-03-22 13:59:21, with 2387006 points after 112995 turns and 12:40:58. 01:08:11 !lg implojin place=tomb:2 01:08:12 1. Implojin the Conqueror (L27 MiFi of Okawaru), slain by a Hell Sentinel on Tomb:2 (tomb_2) on 2013-05-08 22:16:34, with 692247 points after 78118 turns and 7:57:18. 01:08:17 !lg implojin place=tomb:2 -log 01:08:17 1. Implojin, XL27 MiFi, T:78118: http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/Implojin/morgue-Implojin-20130508-221634.txt 01:10:08 !gamesby implojin 01:10:08 implojin has played 1289 games, between 2012-03-11 07:40:33 and 2014-03-22 13:59:21, won 56 (4.3%), high score 31226665, total score 419252963, total turns 11724265, play-time/day 1:46:22, total time 54d+19:26:48. 01:11:00 "Languages are actually hardcoded into the game; the substitutions are implemented in code." this is amazing 01:11:20 !source lang-fake.cc 01:11:21 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/lang-fake.cc;hb=HEAD 01:11:34 comments may be amusing 01:12:24 lots of "god damn" substitutions that will never occur in-game, unless you add a level note 01:12:44 haha 01:14:51 or in a quote for an item maybe 01:15:31 can you chain fake languages? 01:15:35 like can you have two going at once 01:15:43 I grepped; god damn doesn't even appear in quotes 01:15:45 also, no 01:15:47 not afaik 01:15:50 FR then 01:15:58 sounds confusing 01:16:26 people will debate for days over whether grunt,dwarvish or dwarvish,grunt is better 01:18:04 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:18:18 -!- rophy has quit [Quit: Miranda NG! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-ng.org/] 01:19:43 ok yeah nvm 01:19:46 I see it would be kind of hard to do 01:19:49 with the way it's set up 01:23:21 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 01:23:29 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 35.0a1/20140905030206]] 01:23:41 -!- Siegurt has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 01:24:56 -!- rophy has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 01:27:58 -!- soulfreshner has quit [Quit: soulfreshner] 01:28:07 -!- tollyphone has joined ##crawl-dev 01:32:22 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:36:37 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Quit: Connection reset by pier.] 01:37:38 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 01:47:06 -!- giganticus has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 02:01:06 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 02:04:32 -!- Quashie has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 02:07:02 -!- Patashu has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:09:12 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Quit: Connection reset by pier.] 02:10:45 -!- ciaphas has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 02:15:46 -!- AltReality has quit [Quit: Shame on us, doomed from the start, May God have mercy on our dirty little hearts. Shame on us, for what we've done, and all we ever were, just zeros and ones.] 02:16:52 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:16:56 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:19:00 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.16-a0-367-g4cfae82 (34) 02:19:29 -!- Valens254 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:19:34 -!- soulfreshner has quit [Client Quit] 02:20:05 -!- Pluie has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 02:20:36 Wrong tiles displayed after casting Passage of Golubria at previously nonempty squares 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=8946 by Yermak 02:20:40 -!- tsohg has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:21:47 -!- Nstar has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 02:22:17 -!- rubinko_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:22:17 -!- Valens254 has joined ##crawl-dev 02:24:19 Hello to all. I have question. I want to install web tile version of Crawl on my home linux server. Can I download web tile crawl version and where I can download? 02:25:41 Redraw EV when curing petrification 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=8947 by croikle 02:26:10 -!- Basil has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.7] 02:27:49 Valens: if you checkout the git repo and build it with 'make WEBTILES=Y', you should be able to run it with 'python webserver/server.py' 02:28:33 qoala thank you 02:28:44 Let me see if I can find the |amethyst's page that describes setting up other parts of the server environment 02:29:43 I think this is it: http://dobrazupa.org/setting-up-dgamelaunch-and-webtiles 02:30:46 -!- raskol has quit [Quit: quit] 02:32:59 -!- \echo has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:39:57 -!- simmarine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:42:53 -!- Valens254 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:51:56 -!- croikle has quit [Quit: croikle] 02:58:10 -!- schistosoma has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:59:31 -!- Laraso has quit [Quit: Laraso falls through a shaft! The shaft crumbles and collapses.] 03:00:05 -!- Siegurt has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 03:05:21 -!- Wolfechu has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 03:17:41 -!- espressodan has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:21:28 -!- tsohg has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 03:21:39 -!- Valens has joined ##crawl-dev 03:22:56 Please help. When I make 0.15 version with webtiles, I get error levcomp.ypp: In function ‘int yyparse()’: levcomp.ypp:87:61: error: ‘make_stringf’ was not declared in this scope. What can I do for fix this? 03:34:12 -!- Bcadren has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 03:38:49 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 03:42:26 -!- dpeg has joined ##crawl-dev 03:42:29 !seen doy 03:42:30 I last saw doy at Thu Sep 11 05:22:53 2014 UTC (3h 19m 36s ago) saying 'heh' on ##crawl-dev. 03:42:46 doy: ASCII animations? 03:43:59 I hope so, cannot imagine doy left console camp. Will be fun to try trunk in a week. 03:44:19 -!- magicpoints has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:50:58 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 03:51:11 -!- Patashu_ has joined ##crawl-dev 03:51:12 -!- Patashu has quit [Disconnected by services] 03:52:55 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:54:52 -!- Cadet has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 03:56:38 rip dpeg :( 03:56:49 what a pity, I won't try another one :) 03:57:01 I always run out of steam in the midgame 03:57:35 clearly needed to acquire hat of the alchemist or ponderinghat 03:58:02 had hat of +2 SInv 03:58:24 I am also eternally torn about acquirements... jewellery? Armour? ==> later :) 03:58:41 seriously wand would have been best there, since you were short on healwounds 03:59:16 good point 03:59:24 but there were cheap unidentified wands 04:01:19 rchandra: thx for hints... next time! 04:02:18 I was just curious what an XL14 octopode in elf looked like. sadly it was calamari. 04:04:42 haha 04:05:02 I don't mind... although OpSu really is hard to get off the ground (for me at least) 04:06:07 my only Op win used summoning, but started as opfi of chei 04:06:59 -!- Valens has quit [Quit: Page closed] 04:10:32 !lg dpeg won Su 04:10:34 No games for dpeg (won Su). 04:10:37 !lg dpeg won Op 04:10:37 2. dpeg the Archmage (L27 OpMo of Vehumet), escaped with the Orb and 4 runes on 2013-08-18 12:05:28, with 1615984 points after 172485 turns and 13:14:35. 04:10:50 ah, that was my bookless caster 04:10:55 !lg dpeg won Op -1 04:10:56 2. dpeg the Archmage (L27 OpMo of Vehumet), escaped with the Orb and 4 runes on 2013-08-18 12:05:28, with 1615984 points after 172485 turns and 13:14:35. 04:10:58 !lg dpeg won Op -2 04:10:59 1/2. dpeg the Octopus of Death (L27 OpHu of Kikubaaqudgha), escaped with the Orb and 4 runes on 2012-10-24 20:03:34, with 1599600 points after 162672 turns and 11:31:07. 04:19:21 -!- tollyphone has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 04:28:18 -!- markgo has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 04:30:28 -!- Noom_afk has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 04:30:47 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 04:36:06 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 04:38:56 -!- edlothiol has joined ##crawl-dev 04:42:37 -!- NeremWorld has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:44:26 -!- Nstar has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:45:37 -!- Galewind has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 05:02:19 -!- soulfreshner has quit [Quit: soulfreshner] 05:14:33 -!- qoala has quit [Quit: Abscond!] 05:15:43 -!- Reverie has joined ##crawl-dev 05:17:08 -!- Crehl has quit [Quit: Killed by a kitten.] 05:20:23 -!- tsohg has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:20:34 -!- rchandra has left ##crawl-dev 05:40:30 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 05:40:54 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 05:41:13 -!- stanzill has quit [Changing host] 05:42:52 -!- stanzill has quit [Client Quit] 05:48:20 -!- Ragdoll has joined ##crawl-dev 05:53:15 -!- tsohg has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:56:18 -!- eb_mobile has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 05:58:43 -!- soulfreshner has quit [Quit: soulfreshner] 06:02:18 -!- Tolias has quit [Quit: Page closed] 06:02:42 -!- Nerem has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 06:03:44 -!- eb_mobile has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 06:06:26 -!- NeremWorld has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 06:08:09 -!- Ququman has joined ##crawl-dev 06:08:44 -!- DrKe has quit [] 06:16:14 -!- lrvs has quit [Quit: Page closed] 06:16:56 -!- stanzill has quit [Changing host] 06:22:56 -!- mibe has quit [Quit: Page closed] 06:24:33 -!- rophy has quit [Quit: Miranda NG! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-ng.org/] 06:25:47 -!- ciaphas has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 06:26:39 -!- gigantic_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:28:09 -!- eb_mobile has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 06:36:33 -!- eb_mobile has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 06:51:48 -!- ZRN has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 06:53:15 -!- giganticus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:55:56 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 06:57:36 -!- scummos__ has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 06:58:29 -!- Brannock has joined ##crawl-dev 06:59:49 -!- eb_mobile has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:04:01 -!- Sgeo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:04:59 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 07:06:26 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 07:08:04 -!- wvc has quit [Ping timeout: 267 seconds] 07:08:24 !lg logicninja ikiller=ghost_crab 07:08:25 No games for logicninja (ikiller=ghost_crab). 07:08:31 !? 07:08:43 !lg logicninja crypt 07:08:43 2. LogicNinja the Devastator (L25 DEFE of Vehumet), blasted by an ancient lich (bolt of acid) on Crypt:3 (grunt_crypt_end_deaths_head) on 2014-09-06 00:09:20, with 538911 points after 83779 turns and 4:23:13. 07:08:59 -!- Pepe has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 07:09:04 -!- Jho has quit [Quit: Page closed] 07:10:04 -!- demiskeleton has quit [Client Quit] 07:11:22 !log logicninja crypt 07:11:23 2. LogicNinja, XL25 DEFE, T:83779: http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/LogicNinja/morgue-LogicNinja-20140906-000920.txt 07:11:57 !log logicninja zig 07:11:58 11. LogicNinja, XL27 DEFE, T:118684: http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/LogicNinja/morgue-LogicNinja-20140904-235212.txt 07:11:59 -!- mamgar has quit [Quit: Exit Stage Left] 07:12:10 !log logicninja tar 07:12:11 1. LogicNinja, XL27 HEFE, T:117711: http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/LogicNinja/morgue-LogicNinja-20130526-163417.txt 07:14:27 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 07:16:51 what are you looking for? 07:17:47 -!- siepu has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 07:19:36 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 07:20:20 !tell wheals LogicNinja: fuck ghostcrabs forever. 07:20:54 oh 07:20:57 you forgot abyss 07:22:43 oh right 07:22:59 !mapkills crabyss @logicninja 07:23:00 No games for * (!boring !won (map=~crabyss || kmap=~crabyss) @logicninja). 07:24:13 !tell pleasingfungus you removed 6 monsters in one commit! so proud 07:24:13 wheals: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 07:24:51 he did?? 07:24:52 which one 07:25:00 mimic reform? 07:25:21 yeah 07:29:17 I was slightly worried when I read the header of that commit message :) 07:29:39 -!- eb_mobile has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 07:30:08 heh, thought they were totally gone? 07:30:34 pleasingfungus was their only defender i think, but i also think he's convinced others (including me) this way is good 07:30:43 "main" more than 07:30:48 "only", perhaps 07:30:59 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Page closed] 07:32:24 yes, thought mimics would be gone... I am happy with PleasingFungus' analysis and execution 07:32:27 -!- tsohg has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:32:42 -!- gammafunk has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 07:34:06 03wheals02 07* 0.16-a0-368-g9ea71f3: Use YOU_KILL more consistently for Qazlal protection. 10(18 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=9ea71f3eb87d 07:36:52 -!- demiskeleton has quit [Quit: Leaving] 07:41:42 -!- xFleury has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 32.0/20140825202822]] 07:50:55 -!- DrKe has joined ##crawl-dev 07:53:21 -!- eb_mobile has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 07:59:39 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 08:00:26 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 08:00:32 -!- kroki has quit [Quit: Page closed] 08:02:50 -!- fridurmus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:08:57 -!- Patashu_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 08:19:28 -!- siepu_ is now known as siepu 08:22:05 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 08:23:33 -!- radinms has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 08:32:35 -!- stanzill has quit [Quit: tummeln] 08:39:07 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 08:41:37 -!- Ququman_ has joined ##crawl-dev 08:41:50 -!- Ququman has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:43:50 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 08:44:05 -!- fridurmus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:46:22 -!- eb_mobile has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 08:53:58 -!- rorriMnmaD has quit [Quit: leaving] 08:55:12 -!- Pluie has joined ##crawl-dev 08:57:20 -!- tcjsavannah has quit [Quit: tcjsavannah] 09:00:20 -!- Pluie has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 09:02:45 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 09:12:55 -!- Hailley has quit [Quit: Petra is closed!] 09:15:33 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 262 seconds] 09:15:46 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 09:19:39 -!- Ququman_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:22:20 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 09:23:41 dpeg: yeah, should be console and tiles 09:24:17 doy: and currently is? 09:24:35 yeah, although it has serious performance issues for webtiles at the moment, because it breaks their tile cache 09:24:42 -!- Ququman has joined ##crawl-dev 09:25:15 i imagine that shouldn't be too hard to fix though, if i put some effort into it 09:25:40 doy: ah, I see. Excited to see the console fx after the tournament. Yo also have one for spotting new monsters, right? That one has been long on my wishlist, and I wasn't even able to turn in into a precise proposal. Many thanks! 09:26:16 ah, yeah 09:26:28 haven't tested that one on tiles either 09:27:21 but yeah, was getting irritated by pressing o and seeing the message saying that there was a monster in view, and then having to look carefully over the whole map to figure out where exactly the monster was 09:27:28 they can blend into the background sometimes 09:27:50 (Closest to what I had as a proposal: avoid monsters having the same colours as walls, e.g. rats in dungeon. But that's hopeless.) 09:27:55 yeah 09:28:06 especially since linley apparently really loved brown monsters 09:28:11 indeed :) 09:28:13 (: 09:28:18 indeed :)it is ... so natural 09:28:47 Brogue now also has visual effects for spotting secrets... that also helped a lot (was annoyingly hard to spot before) 09:30:06 can anyone try to reproduce #5084? i can't imagine it's still an issue, but i don't have a local install with me 09:30:12 %bug 5084 09:30:12 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=5084 09:32:36 -!- giganticus has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 09:33:49 -!- tensorpudding has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:36:05 Inventory Screen inaccessible 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=8948 by XuaXua 09:37:13 -!- syllogism has joined ##crawl-dev 09:42:42 -!- fridurmus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:47:07 -!- Noom_afk has quit [Read error: No route to host] 09:47:55 how do you get to the intro menu 09:48:20 ah, there we go 09:48:56 -!- tsohg has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:50:06 -!- siepu has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:50:47 -!- Stoats has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 09:52:17 i can't reproduce it either 09:52:23 let me see if i can reproduce it in 0.9.1 09:56:38 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:57:05 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 10:02:41 -!- SomeStupidGuy has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 10:06:53 -!- xuaxua has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:08:10 no one responded to poor Valens 10:08:10 PleasingFungus: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 10:12:05 -!- Letchik has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:12:55 -!- Morg0th has quit [Quit: leaving] 10:13:56 -!- croikle has quit [Quit: croikle] 10:14:53 -!- Letchik1 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:15:10 I saw that query when I got on but they were already gone 10:15:15 <|amethyst> Valens: Don't get on an airplane with Holly and the Big Bopper! 10:15:24 * geekosaur *eyeroll* 10:17:16 -!- dpeg has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 10:18:10 <|amethyst> fix for Valen's problem incoming 10:20:16 03|amethyst02 07* 0.16-a0-369-gdeec423: Regenerate prebuilt yaccage 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=deec42396c22 10:20:17 03|amethyst02 07[stone_soup-0.15] * 0.15.0-28-ge8bc79c: Regenerate prebuilt yaccage 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=e8bc79cbe758 10:20:18 <|amethyst> err, Valens's 10:20:18 -!- eb_mobile has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 10:20:50 oh no, yacc attack 10:21:13 todo remember to do that myself in the future :( 10:22:29 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 10:23:04 gammafunk's water palace causing trouble. 10:23:12 tch tch. 10:24:34 hm. using feature_description_at(p) in _destroy_wall_msg() works, even though the relevant feature was destroyed a moment ago. baffling. 10:25:32 Kraken Zombie tentacles remain after kraken dies to zot trap 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=8949 by raskol 10:29:36 mm. should have added a comment 10:30:41 03Peter McLarnan02 {PleasingFungus} 07* 0.16-a0-370-gd607eb1: Redraw EV after Elivilon Purification (8947) 10(9 hours ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=d607eb1f0ecf 10:30:41 03Peter McLarnan02 {PleasingFungus} 07[stone_soup-0.15] * 0.15.0-29-ga8e3430: Redraw EV after Elivilon Purification (8947) 10(9 hours ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=a8e3430f326a 10:31:33 -!- eb_mobile has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:32:14 -!- magicpoints has joined ##crawl-dev 10:32:17 PleasingFungus: imo fix the commit message next time :( 10:33:38 ? 10:33:46 <|amethyst> "Elivilon" 10:33:49 o 10:33:55 oop 10:34:28 I actually edited the message when adding the ticket #, but didn't spot the mispelling 10:34:30 ah well 10:34:34 doh 10:34:45 you seem 10:34:47 confused 10:34:49 ugh 10:35:04 ??oops 10:35:04 pleasingfungus[1/11]: oops 10:35:07 <3 10:35:38 :) 10:35:40 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 35.0a1/20140905030206]] 10:36:46 03|amethyst02 07* 0.16-a0-371-gddc2abe: Add croikle to credits and mailmap. 10(33 seconds ago, 2 files, 3+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=ddc2abe6a2d3 10:36:49 -!- Letchik has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 10:36:57 <|amethyst> %git HEAD^ 10:36:57 07croikle02 {PleasingFungus} * 0.16-a0-370-gd607eb1: Redraw EV after Elivilon Purification (8947) 10(9 hours ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=d607eb1f0ecf 10:37:07 <|amethyst> Anyone can do that now, btw 10:37:15 <|amethyst> since the mailmap is now in the repo 10:38:57 -!- eb_mobile has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 10:39:41 -!- giganticus has quit [Read error: No route to host] 10:43:42 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 10:48:37 -!- Miauw has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:55:06 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 10:58:00 -!- SomeStupidGuy has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:58:37 -!- scummos__ has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 10:59:37 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 11:00:57 mm 11:01:13 i guess that should be done for curing petrifying by debuff_player() too 11:01:47 i refactored the function locally so i'll do it myself 11:03:42 it feels weird that !cancel doesn't cure (involuntary?) forms 11:03:48 drank it while pigformed and nothing happened 11:04:16 yeah, i'd certainly expect it to 11:04:41 do they not use DUR_TRANSFORMATION? 11:04:41 -!- HellTiger_NB has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 11:04:45 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:04:45 -!- vfoley_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:05:06 oh right, the flight thing 11:05:21 perhaps that should only count if losing flight would kill you 11:05:33 oops 11:05:34 nvm 11:06:02 that only set it to one turn, right? 11:06:09 yeah, i was confused 11:06:13 hm. I need to try & reproduce it when I get home 11:06:23 also, 'kaschei' in the crawl thread reports "Naga and yaktaur enemies are able to wield GSCs" 11:06:27 which sounds like a bug 11:07:26 is it by xom swap? 11:07:33 ya 11:07:41 -!- ystael has quit [Quit: leaving] 11:07:46 i think that allows even spriggans to 11:08:01 could be misremembering, or it might be fixed 11:08:09 my understanding was that xom swap usually didn't give weapons to monsters that can't normally use them 11:08:12 !source xom.cc 11:08:13 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/xom.cc;hb=HEAD 11:08:27 <|amethyst> xom swap has a major bug right now 11:08:36 <|amethyst> if the target won't take the weapon, it is lost forever 11:08:41 mi->can_wield(*wpn, true) 11:08:44 also, ya, saw that one 11:08:59 (xom.cc:1417 is the check that should prevent naga + gsc action 11:09:09 !source monster::can_wield 11:09:09 perhaps it should assert if the monster doesn't take it 11:09:09 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/monster.cc;hb=HEAD#l582 11:09:26 so at least you lose nothing 11:09:47 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 11:10:08 !source is_weapon_wieldable 11:10:09 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/itemprop.cc;hb=HEAD#l1670 11:10:24 i guess the problem is using body_zie() 11:10:28 better solution: remove weapon swap! 11:10:30 s/zie/soze 11:10:33 er 11:10:44 potatolizard: never 11:11:02 augh, that entire ignore_brand_check could be flattened by a level 11:12:03 well you did remove hostile dancing weapon 11:12:04 man, i never remember whether nagas/*taurs are big in the body or in the torso 11:12:08 so I'm hopeful! 11:12:52 <|amethyst> I think signature weapons are one way this could fail 11:13:16 hostile dancing weapons are still around. 11:13:28 oh, the psize argument is ignored for monster::body_size 11:13:59 and making monster nagas not SIZE_LARGE would be a big balance change 11:14:32 could... special-case it.................................. 11:14:58 though idk what the special case would be, exactly 11:15:09 well, the same as the special case for players 11:15:36 !source player::body_size 11:15:36 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/player-act.cc;hb=HEAD#l197 11:15:51 !source species_size 11:15:52 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/species.cc;hb=HEAD#l326 11:16:10 !source size_part_type 11:16:12 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/enum.h;hb=HEAD#l3541 11:16:36 maybe rename PSIZE_TORSO -> PSIZE_ARMS 11:16:47 tiny little baby arms :3 11:16:57 fr: t-rex monsters 11:16:59 tyrannotaurs 11:17:16 hill giant rider 11:17:31 hill giants riding t-rexes 11:17:35 the most awesome monster 11:18:03 dang.... 11:18:03 -!- Stoats has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 11:18:22 <|amethyst> hm 11:18:35 <|amethyst> I think this xom swap bug is actually really simple 11:18:37 titan atop a dire t-rex for the upgrade 11:18:48 |amethyst: really debug while wielding your bad item? 11:19:03 * wheals unlinks Grunt's items!!! 11:19:11 Ouch! That really hurt! 11:20:41 the destroy-item one? 11:23:07 <|amethyst> I need to reproduce it though 11:23:22 haha 11:23:35 get Ragdoll to xomscum for you 11:25:07 -!- mopl has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:25:23 hm, being temporarily poison-resistant (from ice form in my case) puts potions of poison on autopickup, apparently 11:25:36 why aren't bad potions always marked as useless, anyway? 11:28:49 -!- magistern has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:28:49 -!- _D_ has quit [Quit: leaving] 11:29:22 -!- Bloaxor has joined ##crawl-dev 11:30:06 i think we've removed all uses for bad consumables at this point, haven't we? 11:30:38 wasn't it just evap? 11:30:43 does ignite poison still hit potions of poison on the ground? 11:30:48 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 11:30:57 nemelex sacrificing, although that was pretty marginal 11:31:00 elliptic: it does so even if you're rpois, when they're marked as useless 11:31:13 and same with other things marked as useless, you could sac gscs on any race 11:31:18 right, just pointing out a very marginal use :P 11:31:26 -!- tsohg has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:32:15 I *think* ignite poison does; I remember getting that behaviour when I was testing... something related to it 11:32:21 -!- eb_mobile has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:32:45 <|amethyst> Anyway, I haven't yet reproduced the xom swap destroying your item, but I think this should fix it: 11:32:51 <|amethyst> - destroy_item(myweapon); 11:32:51 <|amethyst> + destroy_item(mitm[index]); 11:33:40 <|amethyst> it unlinked the monster's copy, but then destroyed the original 11:33:51 -!- Bloax has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 11:34:16 <|amethyst> though there's still the problem that Xom already spoke before we decided to abort (and return XOM_DID_NOTHING so he'll try something else anyway) 11:34:31 <|amethyst> but there are already other cases where that could happen 11:35:26 !learn add message_ordering ): 11:35:27 message ordering[1/1]: ): 11:36:12 !learn add doy (: 11:36:13 doy[4/4]: (: 11:36:29 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:37:20 item moving code is :( too, it requires so much of the same stuff repeated every time 11:38:25 <|amethyst> doy: my proposal for that is 1. push_message_delay() (make mprf and friends send stuff to a new buffer) 2. pop_message_delay() (undo that, and return but don't print the new buffer) 11:38:32 oo 11:38:53 <|amethyst> doy: or perhaps a scoped object with RAII 11:39:35 so when do you actually print the buffer? 11:39:42 i'll be interested to see what you come up with 11:40:01 -!- namelastname112 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:41:04 <|amethyst> something like http://sprunge.us/aOcf 11:41:43 maybe i should add holy monsters to the 0.16 plan 11:41:45 what's the advantage to using that over just a string 11:41:52 -!- Taraiph has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:42:19 <|amethyst> doy: because "stuff that might print too early" might have messages coming from function calls N deep 11:42:24 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 11:42:47 oh, message_delay intercepts all mpr calls? 11:44:01 03Grunt02 07* 0.16-a0-372-gb8c2cf9: Expose a monster's "speed description" in clua (gw). 10(4 minutes ago, 4 files, 22+ 11-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=b8c2cf9905ed 11:44:01 03Grunt02 07* 0.16-a0-373-gc07c470: Whitespace fix. 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=c07c470cdb2a 11:44:03 <|amethyst> doy: yeah, the idea is message_delay would waylay all messages while it is in dynamic (not just lexical) scope 11:44:03 ah, okay 11:44:07 <|amethyst> probably there should also be some way to force through a message, if only for debugging and error messages 11:45:39 <|amethyst> (the class would have to maintain an actual stack, not just a flag, because the "//stuff that might print too early" might itself (call functions that) use message delays 11:45:43 <|amethyst> ) 11:47:04 <|amethyst> also need some way to specify what should happen when it goes out of scope 11:47:25 <|amethyst> usually you'd want to discard the messages, but that might not always be the case 11:49:21 I'm the spooky action at a distance 11:50:02 I feel like I would prefer your first, more explicit approach, simply because debugging the second suggestion sounds like a nightmare and a half 11:50:42 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 11:52:46 heh 11:52:46 PleasingFungus: TORPOR VAULT 11:52:48 hmmm 11:52:50 so i just realized 11:53:00 wheals: ? 11:53:01 making the orb animation a proper orb purple won't really work 11:53:10 i was doing it 11:53:14 o 11:53:15 nice 11:53:16 because the zot:5 floor is already a proper orb purple 11:53:25 but now i'm a porcupine 11:53:30 hahahaha what 11:53:33 miscast 11:53:36 nice 11:54:07 doy: isn't it just a purple dot? 11:54:13 as opposed to a full tile worth of purple 11:54:18 -!- SomeStupidGuy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:54:25 that's in console, of course; in tiles it'd be simpler 11:54:29 oh, i guess i could use the background color 11:54:33 ah, here's the hydra 11:54:35 seems like that would be uglier though 11:54:47 or maybe i could do like nethack and use line drawing 11:54:49 hmmm 11:55:00 mm, not bad loot 11:55:22 I think console using black is okay, but it really looks bad in tiles 11:55:37 so if you only fix one of them, fix tiles 11:56:12 1learn add badirc <+PleasingFungus> so if you only fix one of them, fix tiles 11:56:21 -!- eb_mobile has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:56:36 what's with all of these tiles users, anyway 11:56:38 fix perhaps the wrong word. change? 11:56:58 doy: tiles is superior for people who aren't old bearded nethack grogs 11:57:40 objective facts ^ 11:57:41 PleasingFungus: I'm not bearded!!! >:( 11:57:54 I stand corrected. 11:58:14 what's the proper #define to use? 11:58:17 !learn add tiles tiles is superior for people who aren't old bearded nethack grogs 11:58:17 tiles[16/16]: tiles is superior for people who aren't old bearded nethack grogs 11:58:49 I *think* it's #ifdef TILES, but you should grep around 11:58:56 USE_TILES i think 11:58:58 o 11:59:00 close 11:59:16 USE_TILE 11:59:17 actually 11:59:30 dang people 11:59:30 dang. 11:59:30 don't offload your grep work 11:59:37 I don't have the repository here! 11:59:42 rip 11:59:52 I'm designing by sense of smell 12:00:03 !send PleasingFungus code smell 12:00:04 Sending code smell to PleasingFungus. 12:01:33 SENSE_SMELL_CODE 12:03:26 Stable (0.15) branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.15.0-29-ga8e3430 12:05:38 -!- ldf has joined ##crawl-dev 12:05:43 -!- wheals_ has joined ##crawl-dev 12:05:55 -!- dtsund has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 12:06:24 -!- wheals has quit [Disconnected by services] 12:06:27 -!- wheals_ is now known as wheals 12:07:23 -!- Tedronai has joined ##crawl-dev 12:08:52 hrm 12:08:59 so if i make a webtiles build 12:09:06 console still works normally 12:09:32 which means that recoloring only for tiles doesn't work right 12:10:06 also 12:10:20 apparently the webtiles server only supports python 2 12:10:20 sigh 12:10:45 unknown monster: "python" 12:10:45 %??python hd:2 spells:tornado name:WebTiles n_rpl 12:10:49 WebTiles (03S) | Spd: 12 (swim: 60%) | HD: 2 | HP: 4-10 | AC/EV: 0/11 | Dam: 2, 103(constrict) | amphibious, cold-blooded, !sil | Res: 06magic(2), 12drown | XP: 16 | Sp: tornado | Sz: Medium | Int: reptile. 12:10:49 %??ball python hd:2 spells:tornado name:WebTiles n_rpl 12:15:19 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 12:16:57 -!- fridurmus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:19:12 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.16-a0-373-gc07c470 (34) 12:21:41 * geekosaur prefers to pretend python3 doesn't exist 12:22:35 -!- wvc has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 12:24:11 -!- hauzer has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 12:24:25 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 12:24:52 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 12:25:56 -!- lrvs has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:29:22 -!- Zooty has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:31:35 -!- SomeStupidGuy has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 12:33:03 haha, death cobs look so ridiculous in tiles 12:34:25 -!- Deathawk has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:36:08 03doy02 07* 0.16-a0-374-g4848b6b: notify the user where the webtiles server is listening 10(5 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=4848b6b1e67b 12:37:12 was someone badmouthing text mode 12:39:19 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 12:39:36 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 12:40:04 the shatter animation doesn't really work on webtiles if your screen is large enough 12:40:23 i guess because it just assumes that nothing out of los can ever change 12:40:33 it isn't that slow for me though 12:40:45 -!- SomeStupidGirl has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:40:54 might be different if it wasn't running locally though, shrug 12:42:03 -!- agentgt has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.7] 12:43:11 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 12:44:47 yeah, all of the animations only work on a small section of the map in webtiles 12:44:58 that's unfortunate 12:46:10 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:51:31 now the question is... do i really want to dive into the guts of the webtiles code 12:52:51 uh 12:52:57 who is responsible for qaz wrath? 12:54:17 has gozag been removed yet 12:54:53 disabled 12:55:08 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:55:14 close enough I guess 12:55:50 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:57:42 -!- eb_mobile has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:58:27 -!- rchandra has joined ##crawl-dev 12:59:29 eh? disabled in 0.15, but not in trunk 13:01:26 normal tiles works properly 13:02:46 alright, console works and normal tiles works 13:02:54 just webtiles that's being dumb 13:04:29 -!- eb_mobile has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 13:05:46 -!- Sharkman1231 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:08:14 -!- ldf has quit [Quit: ldf] 13:11:00 -!- gammafunk has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:12:13 -!- GrafZahl has joined ##crawl-dev 13:12:18 lo 13:12:58 Stable (0.15) branch on crawl.lantea.net updated to: 0.15.0-29-ga8e3430 13:13:38 i have no textdisplay on linux with crawl(-tiles) in X11. is it a known issue? btw. OpenGL is v1.2 ;) quite old rig 13:18:52 -!- Moanerette has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:23:16 03doy02 07[animations] * 0.16-a0-372-g520047a: pass in the colour too 10(2 hours ago, 2 files, 9+ 7-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=520047acff06 13:23:16 03doy02 07[animations] * 0.16-a0-373-g6494ddd: better orb animation 10(2 hours ago, 3 files, 15+ 10-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=6494ddd858a5 13:23:16 03doy02 07[animations] * 0.16-a0-374-gb346b85: use darkgrey for the console orb animation 10(83 minutes ago, 1 file, 5+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=b346b857d6c5 13:23:16 03doy02 07[animations] * 0.16-a0-375-g7a2e363: need to switch this dynamically 10(5 minutes ago, 1 file, 4+ 5-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=7a2e36317cdf 13:23:19 -!- alefury has joined ##crawl-dev 13:23:56 -!- basho has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:24:27 i'm guessing that just changing flash_colour isn't enough to get webtiles to redraw things, for some reason 13:24:39 any webtiles experts around? 13:24:47 -!- fridurmus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:25:05 I believe there is exactly one webtiles expert, sadly. 13:25:20 * geekosaur was gonna say s/around/in existence/ ... 13:25:20 * Sequell also was gonna say s/around/in existence/ ... 13:25:48 -!- Atomikkrab has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:26:04 PleasingFungus: there are at least two (edlothiol and Medar), but they haven't been very active recently (they are in channel though) 13:26:19 ah, I was thinking of ed 13:26:33 don't recall ever seeing med*r say anything 13:28:43 PleasingFungus: anyway, let me know what you think of the new orb animation on non-web-tiles 13:29:06 will take a look when I get home 13:29:10 okay 13:30:09 ty for the quick change :) 13:30:16 Purple is Important. 13:31:07 where would I find the stealth words in source? ??stealth words is missing noe 13:32:50 @??shadow fiend 13:32:50 Shadow Fiend (061) | Spd: 10 | HD: 18 | HP: 76-121 | AC/EV: 15/6 | Dam: 2505(pain), 1513(drain), 1513(drain) | 05demonic, 10doors, evil, see invisible, lev, !sil | Res: 13magic(immune), 02cold++, 10elec, 03poison, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 2497 | Sp: b.cold (3d27), b.draining (3d25), s.torment, dispel undead (3d27) | Sz: Large | Int: high. 13:33:13 -!- vfoley_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:35:24 !source stealth_desc 13:35:25 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/output.cc;hb=HEAD#l2496 13:35:27 rchandra: ^ 13:35:38 ??stealth words 13:35:38 stealth[3/7]: @ values are: extremely un 0, very un < 50, un < 100, fairly < 150, < 200, quite < 250, very < 300, extraordinarily < 400, incredibly < 500, uncannily otherwise. Pre-0.15:Extremely unstealthy <10, Very unstealthy <30, unstealthy <60, fairly <90, normal <120, quite <160, very <220, extremely <300, extraordinarily <400, incredibly <520, uncannily >=520 13:35:51 the stealth value itself is found in player.cc iirc 13:35:55 "extremely" isn't in the modern section, suspect it is 350 13:36:02 correct 13:36:44 !learn s stealth[3] @ values are: extremely un 0, very un < 50, un < 100, fairly < 150, < 200, quite < 250, very < 300, extremely < 350, extraordinarily < 400, incredibly < 500, uncannily otherwise. (Pre-0.15 was more irregular.) 13:36:45 stealth[3/7]: @ values are: extremely un 0, very un < 50, un < 100, fairly < 150, < 200, quite < 250, very < 300, extremely < 350, extraordinarily < 400, incredibly < 500, uncannily otherwise. (Pre-0.15 was more irregular.) 13:37:22 thanks 13:38:08 probably could be re-rephrased to be a little clearer, esp. re "stealthy" 13:41:11 !learn edit stealth[3] s/fairly < 150, < 200, quite/fairly < 150, (no adverb) stealthy < 200, quite 13:41:11 stealth[3/7]: @ values are: extremely un 0, very un < 50, un < 100, fairly < 150, (no adverb) stealthy < 200, quite < 250, very < 300, extremely < 350, extraordinarily < 400, incredibly < 500, uncannily otherwise. (Pre-0.15 was more irregular.) 13:41:59 -!- tsohg has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:42:43 -!- fridurmus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:44:06 -!- tsohg has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:44:43 !learn e stealth [3] s/adverb/adjective 13:44:44 stealth[3/7]: @ values are: extremely un 0, very un < 50, un < 100, fairly < 150, (no adjective) stealthy < 200, quite < 250, very < 300, extremely < 350, extraordinarily < 400, incredibly < 500, uncannily otherwise. (Pre-0.15 was more irregular.) 13:45:09 hm. that's not quite right either 13:45:21 !learn e stealth[3] s/adjective/modifier 13:45:21 stealth[3/7]: @ values are: extremely un 0, very un < 50, un < 100, fairly < 150, (no modifier) stealthy < 200, quite < 250, very < 300, extremely < 350, extraordinarily < 400, incredibly < 500, uncannily otherwise. (Pre-0.15 was more irregular.) 13:47:24 -!- Krakhan has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:49:30 -!- bcarpe211 has quit [Quit: leaving] 13:49:56 it is an adverb 13:50:18 :/ 13:50:21 -!- GrafZahl has left ##crawl-dev 13:50:24 although un- is uniquely a prefix 13:52:28 doy: cell-wise flash colours just aren't transmitted in webtiles currently; full-screen flash is handled client-side (the orb effect works fine in glyph-mode webtiles, though) 13:52:40 -!- schistosomatic is now known as schisto 13:55:13 not sure what you mean by glyph-mode webtiles 13:55:24 -!- Stelpa has quit [Changing host] 13:55:27 tile_display_mode=glyphs in your rc 13:58:53 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 13:59:02 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/63152810/n/crawl/m/floor.png https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/63152810/n/crawl/m/wall.png hehehe 13:59:39 03doy02 07[animations] * 0.16-a0-376-g6688859: better banishment animation 10(11 minutes ago, 3 files, 24+ 6-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=6688859f7276 13:59:39 03doy02 07[animations] * 0.16-a0-377-g3723bc0: shorten the shatter animation a bit 10(5 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=3723bc07cde2 14:00:19 also, I think the only way to make the animations work properly on the whole display in webtiles is to reimplement them client-side (since you'd otherwise have to transmit changes for the whole map, which would be very bad) 14:00:36 -!- fridurmus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:01:36 (the webtiles client has information about the whole map and handles the viewport itself) 14:02:32 -!- eb_mobile has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 14:03:49 -!- ark is now known as Guest1155 14:03:50 -!- Pratfall has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:04:03 -!- ldf has joined ##crawl-dev 14:06:56 doy: does the banish effect not happen with &^B? 14:07:07 edlothiol: no, i meant to look into that 14:07:27 i've just been testing by giving a monster a distortion weapon and letting it hit me a bunch 14:08:38 -!- Earlo has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:08:58 -!- johnny0_ has joined ##crawl-dev 14:09:27 -!- bcarpe211 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:09:33 -!- johnny0 has quit [Disconnected by services] 14:09:37 -!- johnny0_ is now known as johnny0 14:10:08 man, this goblin is really bad at banishing me 14:10:57 maybe you should try wearing the robe of folly and making a couple of deep elf sorcerers 14:11:21 send the goblin to gw imo 14:11:28 I want gw to test something :) 14:12:23 -!- eb_mobile has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:12:24 -!- read has quit [Quit: class] 14:14:17 -!- Guest1155 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:15:05 03doy02 07[animations] * 0.16-a0-378-g5aea47b: animation for low hitpoints 10(3 minutes ago, 3 files, 16+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=5aea47b2ffa3 14:15:35 -!- bmfx has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 14:17:05 <|amethyst> xom bug: 14:17:08 the shatter animation actually seems to work fine for me, except of course every frame is a 6kB update, which isn't great 14:17:09 <|amethyst> "Fight to survive, mortal." 14:17:10 <|amethyst> _The tengu warrior's great mace dances into the air! 14:17:20 <|amethyst> (it's a friendly dancing great mace) 14:17:27 <|amethyst> unless Xom was talking to the tengu 14:21:22 doy: isn't that basically flash_view_delay? 14:21:48 you never know with xom 14:24:23 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:24:32 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 14:24:54 -!- stanzill has quit [Changing host] 14:26:37 -!- NilsBloodaxe has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:28:17 edlothiol: possibly 14:30:13 -!- svendre has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:30:23 can target a wall with Ely pacification 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=8950 by rchandra 14:30:47 some would say that;s about appropriate >.> 14:30:50 -!- Nerem has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 14:34:13 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 14:34:37 -!- mp[crawl] has joined ##crawl-dev 14:34:45 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 14:35:07 rchandra: that's intentional, or we'd leak information about there not being an invisible rock worm there! 14:35:21 oh lol, you mentioned them in the report 14:35:33 one step ahead :) 14:36:07 or beyond :p 14:36:11 doy: how are you planning to make the disabling of the animations working? a list option for which you want to exclude would be cool, possibly 14:36:21 s/working/work 14:36:26 do kobolds still have gourmand? 14:36:36 wheals: i think a single boolean is fine 14:36:36 -!- NeremWorld has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 14:36:45 yeah 14:36:50 <|amethyst> simmarine: they never did AFAIK 14:36:57 oh apparently it was carnivore 14:36:58 would it also disable old-style screen flashes? 14:36:58 <|amethyst> simmarine: then do still have carnivore 3 14:37:02 okay 14:37:02 thanks 14:37:04 <|amethyst> s/then/they/ 14:37:11 gourmand has always been pseudo-carnivore:3 anyhow 14:37:12 -!- stanzwas has quit [Changing host] 14:37:31 <|amethyst> simmarine: they lost saprovore though 14:38:13 Ko don't have gourmand and it's not marked useless 14:38:19 (also felid) 14:39:02 <|amethyst> Does it have any effect on those now that brown chunks don't exist? 14:39:13 nope 14:39:24 can carnivore 3 eat rotten chunks? 14:39:32 <|amethyst> wheals: no, but neither can gourmand 14:39:38 huh 14:39:53 <|amethyst> I guess gourmand might matter if you get saprovore? 14:40:01 wheals: shrug 14:40:11 no real opinion 14:40:13 -!- MgDark has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:40:13 -!- eb_mobile has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:40:13 -!- Noom_afk has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:40:13 -!- magicpoints has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:40:14 -!- stanzill has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:40:14 -!- fridurmus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:40:14 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:40:15 I think you have gourmand backwards, it lets ghouls eat non-rotting not normals eat rotting 14:40:20 -!- MgDark_ is now known as MgDark 14:40:43 <|amethyst> geekosaur: I was thinking it also made brown and rotting chunks less contaminated 14:40:43 !source food.cc 14:40:44 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/food.cc;hb=HEAD 14:41:06 <|amethyst> geekosaur: which if I'm not misremembering would still matter if you had saprovore so you could actually eat those 14:41:09 mm, I think it slightly reduced the chance 14:42:33 03doy02 07[animations] * 0.16-a0-379-ge3dd1eb: <+edlothiol> doy: isn't that basically flash_view_delay? 10(6 minutes ago, 3 files, 2+ 16-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=e3dd1eb04e60 14:42:34 03|amethyst02 07* 0.16-a0-375-g05d2e87: Don't destroy weapons when xom/wizmode weapon swap fails (#4606) 10(12 minutes ago, 2 files, 3+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=05d2e8748f62 14:42:34 03|amethyst02 07[stone_soup-0.15] * 0.15.0-30-g3336679: Don't destroy weapons when xom/wizmode weapon swap fails (#4606) 10(12 minutes ago, 2 files, 3+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=33366797592d 14:44:26 hooray! 14:44:31 also, huh, didn't know that bug was so old 14:44:33 !bug 4606 14:44:33 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=4606 14:45:10 -!- wheals has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:45:12 <|amethyst> it's been around longer than that bug report 14:46:16 <|amethyst> %git fa1f442 14:46:16 07dolorous02 * 0.6.0-a0-1009-gfa1f442: Apply jpeg's patches in [2876380] (automate Xom testing) and [2876688] (new Xom effects), tweaked to fit into current trunk. 10(4 years, 11 months ago, 8 files, 1006+ 191-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=fa1f442ef799 14:46:34 -!- Sharkman1231 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:46:53 mm. phrased myself poorly; not surprised the bug is that old, just hadn't seen it reported until recently 14:47:59 -!- Twiggytwiggytwi_ has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 14:48:43 <|amethyst> %git fd8a1db 14:48:44 07jpeg02 * 0.6.0-a0-658-gfd8a1db: Implement another new unique, this time of my own coding: Maurice the thief. 10(5 years ago, 14 files, 287+ 21-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=fd8a1db3054b 14:48:50 <|amethyst> it's older than xom weapon-swap in fact 14:49:13 <|amethyst> (the code in wizard_give_monster_item that the xom effect was copied from) 14:49:24 -!- tcjsavannah has quit [Quit: tcjsavannah] 14:50:26 <|amethyst> the way to reproduce, btw: get a monster with both a melee weapon (better than yours) and a ranged weapon; get it to switch to the ranged weapon; then trigger the xom swap 14:50:30 -!- Ixiggle has quit [Client Quit] 14:50:59 <|amethyst> I wasn't able to reproduce it that way with xo for some reason 14:51:09 -!- Miauw has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:51:55 <|amethyst> with Xom I had to modify _xom_is_bad so it always tries the weapon swap first 14:53:51 -!- fridurmus_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:54:04 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 14:56:30 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 14:56:33 <|amethyst> it would be nice if we avoided unequipping the item altogether here 14:57:13 or forced it to take your weapon despite being worse 14:57:53 PleasingFungus: is there a particular reason that you didn't move butchery() to butcher.cc? 14:57:54 <|amethyst> it passes force=true to pickup_item, which passes it to pickup_weapon 14:58:06 <|amethyst> but then pickup_melee_weapon doesn't take a 'force' parameter 14:58:23 !source butchery 14:58:24 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/food.cc;hb=HEAD#l273 14:58:31 uh 14:58:52 seems like it could belong in a file named "butcher" 14:59:06 ah, it was because I was only pulling stuff out of mon-death.cc 14:59:10 -!- SomeStupidGuy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:59:15 iirc 14:59:20 seems like these could be very good butcher.cc functions 15:00:01 -!- \echo has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:00:08 // XXX This is a pretty dangerous hack; I don't like it.--GDL 15:00:14 never seen a GDL comment before 15:00:49 pretty impressive to write a comment that bwr responds to 15:01:16 ya 15:01:22 i'll do it myself since there's a big function i'm getting rid of since i'm ditching ATTR_WEAPON_SWAP_INTERRUPTED 15:01:28 nice 15:01:36 those people casting lichform with holy weapons will just have to rewield manually 15:01:39 <|amethyst> GDL = Gordon Lipford I guess 15:01:50 would that even trigger weapon_swap_interrupted? 15:01:58 it's the only thing that does afaict 15:02:01 huh 15:02:14 I assumed it was for people who got pigformed while in the 0.3 aut weapon-swap delay 15:02:28 PleasingFungus: I think the weapon just melds then 15:02:32 <|amethyst> hm, what is it that prompts when you use a wielded deck to transform, then you untransform 15:02:43 <|amethyst> ISTR something about whether you want to reequip the deck 15:02:49 <|amethyst> that may have been several versions ago 15:02:59 03doy02 07[animations] * 0.16-a0-380-g5d0de65: add option to control if animations are used 10(12 minutes ago, 5 files, 21+ 10-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=5d0de659a823 15:02:59 03doy02 07[animations] * 0.16-a0-381-g2b4a010: run the shatter animation before monsters are damaged 10(4 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=2b4a010707eb 15:03:02 maybe 15:03:02 hm 15:03:05 wheals, if you were a truly virtuous soul 15:03:16 you could do your work on the formreform branch 15:03:33 eek 15:03:36 hahaha 15:03:52 -!- AGinsberg has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 15:04:41 anyway, 15:04:49 -!- bmfx has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 15:05:03 looks like |amethyst is right, since decks can't meld i guess? 15:05:13 i suppose the idea is to not allow melding arbitary items 15:05:26 well, if you did it there, (1) no conflicts, (2) you could do a final rebase & push it into master come monday 15:05:34 which would make me happy 15:05:37 still, i think that prompt is more annoying than having to rewield the deck manually 15:05:39 no pressure, tho 15:06:15 <|amethyst> wheals: probably 15:07:15 also, i get to remove a FIXME and an XXX in the same function 15:07:31 dang... 15:08:08 03doy02 07[animations] * 0.16-a0-382-gab163a7: disable animations in webtiles for now 10(66 seconds ago, 1 file, 5+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=ab163a7927f4 15:08:11 <|amethyst> XXX: change this TODO to a FIXME 15:08:24 apropos commit 15:08:36 doy: that XXX should be a TODO 15:09:20 doy: also, there's a "hybrid" tile_display_mode that also uses glyphs, and presumably works 15:10:00 I just use XXX for noting everything i don't like 15:10:03 short and easy to type 15:10:07 me too 15:10:41 so is is_tiles only true on webtiles, not local tiles? 15:11:11 yeah 15:11:15 wait 15:11:24 no, is_tiles is true for local tiles too 15:11:25 oh it's defined strangely 15:11:29 yeah 15:12:18 defined in 4 places, but it doesn't seem to be declared anywhere? 15:12:42 oh right, if it's webtiles we're using libunix since it doesn't work on windows 15:13:02 <|amethyst> wheals: libgui.h libunix.h libw32c.h 15:13:56 -!- HoneyLocust has joined ##crawl-dev 15:13:59 -!- fridurmus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:14:03 <|amethyst> (only the webtiles version is non-inline) 15:14:20 oh, so inlines don't need to be declared first? 15:14:30 * wheals is shaky on his C/C++ function understanding 15:14:31 <|amethyst> a definition is also a declaration 15:14:41 <|amethyst> inlines have to be defined in the header 15:14:58 <|amethyst> and since all callers #include the header, there's no need for another declaration 15:15:11 oh, makes sense 15:15:23 and how are we using constexpr now :P 15:15:25 <|amethyst> not sure about the rules of -Wmissing-declarations and static inline 15:15:37 i guess compilers know to just ignore it if they don't understand it 15:15:46 <|amethyst> no, we tell them to 15:15:47 <|amethyst> #if !defined(__cplusplus) || __cplusplus < 201103 15:15:47 <|amethyst> # define constexpr const 15:15:47 <|amethyst> #endif 15:15:51 <|amethyst> in AppHdr.h 15:15:54 ah, ok 15:15:56 doy: note that there could be webtiles spectators for console players which will see the animations (or, conversely, console spectators won't see animations for webtiles players) (but that'll be nontrivial to fix) 15:16:27 -!- CatPlusPlus has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:16:40 hmmm 15:17:00 how does the spectator stuff for webtiles even work? 15:17:24 <|amethyst> webtiles spectators get copies of all the server -> client messages 15:17:37 <|amethyst> console spectators just watch the ttyrec 15:17:52 where does the ttyrec come from though? 15:17:58 -!- Ragdoll has quit [Quit: Houdoe] 15:18:05 the process always does the usual console display stuff 15:18:08 <|amethyst> webtiles does console at the same time 15:18:16 webtiles data gets sent via a unix domain socket 15:18:30 03doy02 07[animations] * 0.16-a0-383-g75e309a: actually, disable it for all webtiles 10(6 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=75e309a99538 15:18:33 ah, okay 15:18:33 <|amethyst> that's why there are so many #ifndef USE_TILE_LOCAL 15:19:50 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:23:19 -!- Serfuzz has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:24:12 -!- giganticus has quit [Read error: No route to host] 15:25:10 -!- xFleury has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 32.0/20140825202822]] 15:27:06 <|amethyst> . 15:27:17 <|amethyst> ?. 15:27:17 |amethyst[1/13]: <|amethyst> doh 15:27:18 <|amethyst> ?. 15:27:19 |amethyst[1/13]: <|amethyst> doh 15:27:33 <|amethyst> err, double-doh, or triple now 15:28:07 -!- mong has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:29:16 -!- Jho has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:29:25 ?. 15:29:26 grunt[1/19]: dang rip 15:33:11 -!- LexAckson has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:33:42 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 15:35:56 03Grunt02 07* 0.16-a0-376-gf9ac46f: clua: Monster res_fire(), etc. (qw). 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 23+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=f9ac46f684db 15:37:20 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 15:37:30 -!- mamgar has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:41:28 03|amethyst02 07* 0.16-a0-377-g59048f1: Don't unwield swapped weapons until we know it works. 10(7 minutes ago, 1 file, 3+ 3-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=59048f13f879 15:42:45 -!- gareppa has quit [Client Quit] 15:44:00 imho cherry-pick at some point 15:44:14 oh 15:44:18 I guess you cherry-picked the main fix 15:44:23 -!- gareppa has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:44:43 <|amethyst> yeah; I didn't want to cherry pick this part because I'm less sure I didn't miss anything 15:44:50 -!- GoblinBomb has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 15:45:04 <|amethyst> and it's just cosmetic, and doesn't even fix the worst cosmetic problem (the big red message) 15:45:16 hm. looking at that old maurice commit. 15:45:57 a virtuous soul would do a check for "intentional fall[-]?through" and replace any comment reading simply that 15:46:20 in the hopes that, perhaps, we can learn from the Nethack Touch of Death bug. 15:47:38 <|amethyst> replace with what? 15:48:51 "fall-through to ", carefully double-checking the logic first 15:49:31 alternately, stop doing 'clever' tricks with switch statements and fall-throughs 15:49:34 -!- Taraiph has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:49:41 but if I can't even get myself to do that... 15:49:56 <|amethyst> or quit using switch 15:50:04 -!- Siegurt has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 15:50:22 <|amethyst> since fall-through is the only real reason to do so 15:50:41 -!- yalue has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:50:41 <|amethyst> but then you end up with equally nasty stuff :( 15:51:03 <|amethyst> like if (foo == A || foo == B || foo == C) { if (foo == A) something else; common part; } 15:51:29 -!- Morg0th has quit [Quit: leaving] 15:52:16 oh, that's absolutely worse. 15:53:21 I wouldn't say that fall-through is the only reason to use switch; you can express some logic more elegantly with switch than with e.g. if chains (though often you'd rather be doing an array lookup instead...) 15:53:38 a while back we had a conversation about homebrewing our own no-default-fallthrough switch statement. a bad idea, but so tempting 15:56:08 -!- mp[crawl] is now known as magicpoints 15:56:16 -!- Tedronai has quit [Quit: leaving] 15:56:32 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 15:56:57 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:02:28 -!- bonghitz has quit [Read error: Connection timed out] 16:03:28 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 16:04:38 -!- syllogism has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:08:23 -!- CampinSam has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.3] 16:09:51 -!- vfoley_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:09:55 -!- Aryth has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.0.4 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/] 16:10:34 -!- magistern has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:10:47 -!- tcjsavannah has quit [Quit: tcjsavannah] 16:11:50 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 16:12:52 how difficult would it be to make autofight respect slime walls? 16:13:13 autoexplore handles it fine 16:13:17 so I assume there's something holding it back for autofight 16:14:29 (that question might sound a little accusatory, it's not, I'm just doing slime atm and was curious) 16:15:20 i think elliptic might know, he's done many changes to autofight iirc 16:17:13 -!- scummos__ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:20:43 -!- Bcadren has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:25:56 -!- tsohg has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:26:02 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:26:52 -!- Jho has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:29:49 -!- Tolias has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:30:23 -!- \echo has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:33:55 making it not enter shallow water like a complete dummy would also be a good idea 16:34:37 hm. relevant to the "help dumb players stop splashing around in the world" discussion from the other day 16:34:42 s/world/water 16:35:43 03wheals02 07* 0.16-a0-378-g6d99af4: Allow Xom to upgrade his own god gifts. 10(24 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=6d99af48d322 16:35:43 03wheals02 07* 0.16-a0-379-g1cfcc8b: Make Animate Remains cancel if Animate Skeleton would (#8070). 10(13 minutes ago, 3 files, 11+ 3-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=1cfcc8b6d233 16:35:46 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 16:36:24 -!- p0werm0de has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:37:52 -!- Fusha has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 16:38:15 wheals: good 16:38:26 wheals: gw thanks you for that last change :) 16:38:39 gw can thank magicpoints for suggesting it 16:39:31 03Grunt02 07* 0.16-a0-380-gc94ca1e: Magic-related clua functionality (qw, gw). 10(4 minutes ago, 3 files, 59+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=c94ca1e6cc2f 16:40:22 -!- fridurmus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:42:06 Grunt: going to resolve #7489? 16:43:16 mm 16:43:47 Probably not until the rest of those bits are resolved :) 16:43:56 -!- giganticus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:46:04 i'd suggest making a comment, at least 16:48:15 mantis-comment activated 16:48:18 !bug 7489 16:48:19 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=7489 16:52:40 -!- HoneyLocust has quit [] 16:53:36 -!- siepu has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:55:24 -!- fridurmus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:55:30 Brannock: it wouldn't be difficult, someone should do it sometime :) 16:55:46 -!- Jho has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:59:29 -!- schistosomatic has joined ##crawl-dev 17:05:50 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 17:07:45 !source needs_handle_warning 17:07:45 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/invent.cc;hb=HEAD#l1700 17:07:45 -!- G-Flex has quit [Quit: Time for us to bug out.] 17:08:16 -!- Codrus has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:08:16 -!- edlothiol has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:11:37 -!- stanzwas is now known as stanzhunda 17:12:10 -!- Ratboiler has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:12:26 !you_worship(GOD_NO_GOD) seems like kind of a funny line to me 17:13:04 I get what it's going for, but the combination of the double negative and the 'worship(GOD_NO_GOD)' 17:13:16 -!- tabstorm has joined ##crawl-dev 17:14:01 PleasingFungus: 13 files changed, 36 insertions(+), 222 deletions(-) 17:14:07 ! 17:14:15 (getting rid of ATTR_WEAPON_SWAP_INTERRUPTED) 17:14:22 ya I figured 17:14:24 good file count 17:14:30 it turned out there was a delay and even an option associated with it 17:16:48 -!- stanzhunda is now known as stanzglotza 17:20:13 03Grunt02 07* 0.16-a0-381-gbbba03e: Finish up the clua spells interface (#7489). 10(3 minutes ago, 5 files, 165+ 12-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=bbba03e2ef5a 17:21:04 It is finished. 17:21:45 !send PleasingFungus finisher 17:21:45 Sending finisher to PleasingFungus. 17:22:00 * PleasingFungus curses! 17:22:17 * wheals hits PleasingFungus with a bag of trucks!!!!!! 17:23:05 03Grunt02 07* 0.16-a0-382-g68479d3: clua you.status() (qw, gw). 10(45 seconds ago, 1 file, 18+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=68479d33c882 17:23:19 -!- Laraso has quit [Quit: Laraso falls through a shaft! The shaft crumbles and collapses.] 17:23:43 -!- Sharkman1231 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:25:18 hm, if it gives the same list, i suspect code duplication 17:25:46 -!- giganticus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:25:54 status stuff is already triplicated I think 17:26:27 unless someone cleaned it up since I last looked at it 17:27:19 it was improved in 0.15 development at least 17:27:24 !source duration-data.h 17:27:28 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/duration-data.h;hb=HEAD 17:28:21 -!- bencryption has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:29:15 Unstable branch on crawl.lantea.net updated to: 0.16-a0-380-gc94ca1e (34) 17:31:03 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 17:34:26 -!- LordSloth has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:36:11 It was cleaned up, yes. 17:36:38 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 17:36:51 -!- ibar has quit [Quit: leaving] 17:38:31 -!- CampinSam has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:38:31 -!- phyphor has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:39:02 -!- Palyth has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:39:57 -!- LexAckson has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:40:09 -!- MgDark has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 32.0/20140825202822]] 17:41:53 Grunt: thanks for doing that implementable! it was well-coded, maybe you can join the devteam 17:42:06 -!- raskol has quit [Quit: quit] 17:42:34 wheals: I'd like Grunt's work to be evaluated a bit more so we can be sure he's ready 17:42:41 wheals: he did propose mass fireball after all 17:42:59 good point, he might not be ready for the responsibility 17:43:15 -!- HoneyLocust has joined ##crawl-dev 17:43:22 -!- tabstorm has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:54:48 -!- G-Flex has joined ##crawl-dev 17:55:51 -!- Reverie is now known as Reverie|Away 17:58:49 -!- Red_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:59:16 -!- raskol_ has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 18:00:05 -!- HoneyLocust has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:00:40 -!- HoneyLocust has joined ##crawl-dev 18:03:22 -!- fridurmus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:04:09 -!- Reverie|Away is now known as Reverie 18:04:30 -!- stanzglotza is now known as stanzill 18:05:21 -!- HoneyLocust has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:08:08 03Grunt02 07* 0.16-a0-383-g1609a86: clua: Allow e.g. you.status("finesse"), returning a boolean. 10(66 seconds ago, 1 file, 17+ 3-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=1609a86bd3dd 18:09:47 -!- bencryption has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.8] 18:11:31 -!- Tungstan has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:17:52 -!- ryzen has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 18:21:29 -!- markgo has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 18:22:27 -!- fridurmus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:24:16 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:25:37 -!- Crehl has quit [Quit: Killed by a kitten.] 18:27:26 -!- eliotn has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:27:38 -!- HoneyLocust has joined ##crawl-dev 18:30:39 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Client Quit] 18:32:54 -!- nb__ is now known as Guest63342 18:33:24 -!- Guest63342 has quit [Client Quit] 18:37:24 rubinko (L27 DrVM) ASSERT(blood.sub_type == POT_BLOOD_COAGULATED) in 'rot.cc' at line 596 failed. (Tar:5) 18:40:12 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:41:24 -!- read has joined ##crawl-dev 18:41:34 -!- Hisar has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:41:39 -!- raskol_ is now known as raskol 18:48:01 -!- read has quit [Quit: restarting] 18:49:19 -!- CatPlusPlus_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:56:57 -!- predator117 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:58:18 -!- alefury has quit [] 18:59:42 -!- read has joined ##crawl-dev 18:59:57 -!- aiguu has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:05:37 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 34.0a1/20140812030202]] 19:06:58 -!- Zooty has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:08:05 -!- Danei has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:09:00 -!- SomeStupidGuy has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:10:05 -!- stanzill has quit [Quit: au rev] 19:15:55 03Grunt02 07* 0.16-a0-384-g0fb7d3b: clua: spells.letter, to get a memorised spell's letter. 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 16+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=0fb7d3bc2455 19:16:24 03wheals02 07[formreform] * 0.16-a0-421-g515eda1: Get rid of ATTR_DELAY_SWAP_INTERRUPTED and all its attendant code. 10(2 hours ago, 13 files, 36+ 222-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=515eda1f3219 19:16:24 03wheals02 07[formreform] * 0.16-a0-422-gbf9d6cd: Move butchery() from food.cc to butcher.cc. 10(2 hours ago, 6 files, 326+ 315-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=bf9d6cd95d91 19:17:22 rerereformreform 19:17:32 rererererererererererereform 19:17:39 git rerereform 19:20:02 -!- Stoats has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 19:20:27 -!- Reverie has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 19:21:00 -!- Kramin has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 19:23:00 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:23:00 -!- superc has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:23:55 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 19:25:28 spell fr: Formreform Form 19:26:05 a truly virtuous soul :) 19:27:45 -!- Siegurt has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 19:28:05 Git Form 19:28:42 gammafunk: you git 19:34:48 mm. the purple helps, but the animation is still too fast and too linear. hrm. 19:34:58 -!- wheals has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:35:40 re orb animation. 19:36:46 haha, banish animation is deliciously cheesy. it's perfect 19:37:01 -!- Bloaxor has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:37:38 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 19:37:54 hm. cancel worked this time on pigform. odd 19:38:04 (after a turn's delay) 19:39:52 -!- Sharkman1231 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:42:24 gdd demigod thread has devolved into name bikeshedding. 19:42:28 pity. it was very briefly a good thread. 19:44:40 -!- fridurmus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:47:31 -!- negatendo has quit [Quit: poop] 19:49:26 -!- tsohg has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:51:02 i'd suggest the name Bikeshed but we already have a B god 19:52:49 -!- ldf has quit [Quit: ldf] 19:53:23 This next commit will probably change the nature of crawl development forever 19:54:40 03gammafunk02 07* 0.16-a0-385-g27adee9: Fix the floor tiles in a temple vault 10(7 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=27adee9422a8 19:54:42 -!- tsohg has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:57:40 !!!! 19:57:50 -!- lrvs has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:57:53 I HOPE you're planning on backporting that. 19:58:30 !tell gammafunk The deck of cards disappears in a puff of smoke. You feel much better. Your glowing dire flail hits Asterion! Asterion dies! 19:58:30 wheals: OK, I'll let gammafunk know. 20:00:52 hax 20:00:52 gammafunk: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 20:01:20 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 20:04:50 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:05:16 ??tavern[$] 20:05:16 forum[5/5]: but if you only look at the OP and minmay's first note then it's almost like it's a good thread 20:06:11 lol 20:07:03 yeah I probably just read the op and maybe skim to Sar/dck/crate/duvessa more often than...well it's probably *as* often as I should 20:09:03 hm 20:09:06 ??bcrawl 20:09:06 bcrawl[1/4]: planned features: rn-, level 6 evap, arachnetaur, yred revenant gifts, water magic, perma-enslave, imp race, dual wielding, fruit reform, blinkitis, fe^nem unique, felid monsters in general, bdsm god, jotunn race, revival of dj, undead can worship good gods, tree race that can't use 1h weapons, acid brand, un-unranding salamander hide 20:09:14 ??bcrawl[2 20:09:16 bcrawl[2/4]: 27 "b" slot gods (one for every race), sidequests, felid annhilators, plain-type damage, !borg, !ddoor, ruin tomb, distortion unrands, 0.6 AM, demons that worship chei, everyone has EP, ruin spider, player ghost moths, elf dragons, ruin pan, mass haste, wand destruction, acid magic, revive forest, continuum sized labs, buff Tr, werewolf race, !acid 20:09:26 ...kind of curious about plain-type damage 20:09:33 is it like 4 entries of that 20:09:40 -!- chewymouse has joined ##crawl-dev 20:09:46 PleasingFungus: as opposed to mountain-type 20:09:49 4 entries of "!borg" ? 20:09:49 no idea what the later entries are 20:09:51 ontoclasm: obv!!! 20:09:57 gammafunk: suggested duration 100 turns 20:09:59 iirc 20:10:01 oh 20:10:09 that was !ddoor 20:10:09 sorry 20:10:38 'demons that worship chei' is vague enough to be interesting 20:11:06 PleasingFungus it's the random murmors of an insane person 20:11:12 ya I know 20:11:17 I'm looking for inspiration in random noise 20:11:26 something to kickstart my thinking 20:11:43 ooh, a kickstater?! 20:11:48 hopefully not 20:11:50 ??bcrawl[3 20:11:50 bcrawl[3/4]: planned unfeatures: everything that makes crawl fun 20:11:53 aw 20:11:55 that sounds bad. 20:12:11 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 20:13:13 -!- Nabalzbhf has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:13:39 -!- Nabalzbhf has joined ##crawl-dev 20:13:47 -!- chewymouse has quit [Client Quit] 20:14:51 -!- Tungsten has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:16:40 -!- fridurmus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:18:33 -!- HellTiger_NB has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:18:59 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:21:38 FR: ctrl-f for "evocable" returns all evoc items 20:28:26 -!- Ququman has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:29:17 magicpoints: like spears :) 20:29:46 it could be made to work for evokers/rods/wand/... of course 20:30:10 anything that actually uses the evocations skill 20:30:27 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 20:30:50 or we could replace reach on polearms with something much less annoying... 20:34:07 -!- Brannock_ has joined ##crawl-dev 20:34:57 -!- mamgar_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:35:40 -!- Bcadren has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:36:34 -!- KurzedMetal has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:36:34 -!- Zermako has quit [] 20:37:36 -!- Brannock has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20:37:39 -!- hauzer has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20:38:37 gammafunk: free attack when things approach you~ 20:39:22 yeah proposals similar to that have been made 20:39:53 (it's probably bad, i assume dudes would line up to explain why) 20:41:18 what does "when things approach you" mean? 20:43:11 when they step from not-adjacent to adjacent (it is not a serious suggestion) 20:43:11 i still say do the thing in https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?p=188740#p188740 20:43:42 i dunno killing ogres by moving backwards sounds pretty fun to me 20:43:54 bats and unseen horrors would be great too 20:49:28 -!- cribo has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 20:51:19 oh, and fr: tso halo prevents enemies from becoming distracted 20:51:41 if you have allies then really really stupid stuff happens 20:52:40 should probably set your stealth to 0 too 20:52:42 e.g. you have to stand a square away from the fight, because if the enemy kills your buddy, you still can't hit it until the next turn (when it notices you again, and can immediately hit you) 20:52:48 optional 3rd step: make tso not terrible 20:53:23 i suppose another alternative is to just get rid of tso's no-stabbing conduct 20:53:26 -!- vfoley_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20:53:42 or just prevent any stabs 20:53:44 since the halo already hurts your stealth so much and prevents invis 20:54:06 well, a distraction stab is basically already prevented because it's a distraction stab and indistinguishable from a normal melee attack 20:54:11 i mean, if you're being all chivalrous, i guess you just avoid kinfing dudes in the eye, even though you have the chance 20:54:20 so there's basically just confuse 20:55:37 being with a specific god preventing enemies from becoming distracted just seems...weird 20:57:02 well, the implementation is kinda irrelevant - whichever way you do it you're not gonna stab anything with tso 20:58:37 you moonwalk the ogres? sick 20:58:56 ... 20:59:00 FOR FUCK'S SAKE 20:59:04 THE MOONWALK IS NOT WALKING BACKWARDS YOU FUCK 20:59:11 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Saindo] 20:59:12 ...I'm...I'm sorry 21:00:14 Aren't ghostly creatures revived by lost souls supposed to become vulnerable to holy wrath? 21:00:48 yeah should be I think 21:01:15 http://little--t.blogspot.com/2013/11/how-to-moonwalk.html 21:01:19 WALKING BACKWARDS IS NOT THE FUCKING MOONWALK THIS IS THE FUCKING MOONWALK 21:01:40 -!- tensorpudding has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 21:02:09 Well, it looks like this ghostly DE death mage wasn't 21:02:33 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 21:02:42 shit, I wasn't sliding on my goddamn heel all this time 21:04:27 fr wielding a polearm causes you to moonwalk for all movement 21:05:48 -!- PolkaDot has quit [Quit: leaving] 21:16:14 -!- raskol has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 21:22:14 -!- bull_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:30:22 -!- rophy has quit [Quit: Miranda NG! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-ng.org/] 21:33:00 -!- tsohg has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:37:10 -!- qoala has joined ##crawl-dev 21:37:42 -!- tsohg has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:38:10 -!- bonghitz has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:38:12 -!- the_glow has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:44:44 -!- Bullock has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:49:14 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:58:27 -!- AtomikKrab has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:00:08 -!- Basil has joined ##crawl-dev 22:02:47 -!- sgun has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:05:21 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 22:06:50 I think it'd be pretty simple to justify "being with tso prevents stabs"; the enormous glowing halo would work pretty well (insofar as a justification is needed) 22:06:55 brilliance Doesn't Count 22:06:59 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:11:05 -!- bh has joined ##crawl-dev 22:12:15 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 22:12:31 -!- doy has quit [Excess Flood] 22:12:59 -!- doy has joined ##crawl-dev 22:13:00 -!- rast has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:13:41 -!- \echo has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:14:10 -!- xFleury has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:14:16 -!- xFleury_ is now known as xFleury 22:14:32 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:14:57 is removing/reworking corpse sacrifice a goal? 22:15:54 it's something people talk about now and again 22:16:00 but it's not something being actively moved on 22:16:02 afaik 22:16:27 -!- iliekturtles has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:16:27 -!- frobop has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:16:58 mmk, i thought as much. not a big problem but it's mildly bad. 22:20:43 -!- Brannock_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:20:55 -!- mamgar has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:21:00 -!- Brannock_ has joined ##crawl-dev 22:21:17 -!- giganticus has quit [] 22:21:34 -!- tcjsavannah has quit [Quit: tcjsavannah] 22:23:29 -!- bcode is now known as we 22:24:09 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 22:25:23 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 22:28:11 -!- Avigdore has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:28:44 PleasingFungus: what would you do to improve the orb animation? 22:29:10 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 22:29:18 -!- LexAckson has quit [Client Quit] 22:31:33 I was poking at the math earlier 22:32:19 the idea was to make it expand more slowly when the radius is smaller 22:32:50 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 22:33:01 tried changing it from d^2 to d^3/max(d) 22:33:06 -!- tabstorm has joined ##crawl-dev 22:42:50 -!- Cheibriados has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 22:44:06 -!- Cheibriados has joined ##crawl-dev 22:44:06 -!- The topic of ##crawl-dev is: Crawl Development | Logs: http://s-z.org/crawl-dev/ | People with +v have commit access. | Please keep general Crawl-related chit-chat to ##crawl. | Dev wiki: http://crawl.develz.org/wiki | Long stuff to pastebin.ca please | Immortal Warwalrus and Crazy Yiuf forever. 22:44:06 -!- The topic of ##crawl is: Play the Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup tournament online now! Type ??cao, ??cdo, ??cszo, ??clan, or ??cbro for instructions, http://dobrazupa.org/tournament/0.15/ for the tournament. | http://crawl.develz.org | FooTV: http://termcast.develz.org - ??footv for instructions | See also ##crawl-offtopic 22:44:40 -!- bh has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:49:25 .gmap 22:49:31 49. Brannock the Swordmaster (L25 TeBe of Trog), blasted by a water nymph (the raging water) on Depths:2 (gammafunk_depths_water_palace) on 2014-09-12 01:37:14, with 541196 points after 61121 turns and 4:09:48. 22:49:34 it's a bonanza 22:49:44 .gmap -tv:x0.5:channel=gmap 22:49:50 49. Brannock, XL25 TeBe, T:61121 requested for gmap (telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org). 22:52:23 oh hey and .gmap -2 22:52:27 .gmap -2 22:52:33 48/49. qw the Severer (L12 MiBe of Trog), slain by a dire elephant on Lair:6 (gammafunk_lair_enchanted_lake) on 2014-09-12 00:11:35, with 21136 points after 15801 turns and 0:11:10. 22:54:17 PleasingFungus: well, it'd probably be easier to dynamically adjust the frame delay than the radius 22:54:24 -!- Kramin has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 22:54:36 ah - I wasn't clear on what exactly the frame delay was. ms between frames? 22:54:40 yeah 22:55:06 you can set it per-frame 22:55:28 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:59:51 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 23:00:21 mm. that's... something, but I'm still not happy. 23:00:27 (with the version that I tweaked.) 23:00:34 perhaps I will never be truly happy. 23:03:23 -!- st_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:05:46 -!- SomeStupidGirl has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:09:51 -!- Pacra has quit [Quit: welp cya] 23:11:03 -!- Laraso has quit [Quit: Laraso falls through a shaft! The shaft crumbles and collapses.] 23:12:27 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:16:59 hm. should trog be forbidden from handing out the majin-bo? 23:17:46 it is a very odd gift for a no-casting god 23:18:49 historically he could give out olgren, special cases are bad 23:19:01 hm 23:19:03 also it's funny 23:19:07 he's already forbidden from giving out wucad mu 23:19:17 or pain weapons 23:19:29 rip Ne of trog 23:19:46 -!- Brannock_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:19:47 !hs * ne trog 23:19:48 35. Vidiiot the Axe Maniac (L26 MiNe of Trog), escaped with the Orb and 4 runes on 2012-10-22 19:27:00, with 1939527 points after 88009 turns and 4:08:41. 23:19:54 heh 23:20:03 -!- Brannock_ has joined ##crawl-dev 23:20:05 !hs * ne trog -log 23:20:06 35. Vidiiot, XL26 MiNe, T:88009: http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/Vidiiot/morgue-Vidiiot-20121022-192700.txt 23:20:13 !won * ne trog 23:20:14 * (ne trog) has won 5 times in 35 games (14.29%): 4xMiNe 1xDjNe 23:20:26 !hs * mine 23:20:27 1105. crate the Invulnerable (L27 MiNe of The Shining One), escaped with the Orb and 15 runes on 2012-10-21 21:55:38, with 12709120 points after 126217 turns and 6:48:56. 23:20:40 good word 23:21:21 new species / backgrounds shouldn't be added without considering words. Vi instead of Vs, for example. 23:21:27 ya, that was a terrible error 23:21:37 just a massive screw-up 23:21:59 -!- valrus has quit [Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 23:22:07 question: should un-ID'd magic staves be blue, like other un-id'd things? 23:23:36 -!- Tolias has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:24:14 sure. 23:25:07 03doy02 07[animations] * 0.16-a0-384-gca4991c: tweak the orb animation a bit more 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 7+ 5-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=ca4991cf0011 23:25:09 -!- Lightli has joined ##crawl-dev 23:25:09 I thought un-IDed things being coloured was not default, though 23:27:00 -!- valrus has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:28:25 -!- flun has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:29:05 like 23:29:06 ego items 23:29:08 scrolls 23:29:12 rings, amulets 23:30:19 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 23:30:29 ah, I was thinking of scrolls/potions that I had to set. sure, magical staves are magical 23:35:34 ??animations 23:35:34 I don't have a page labeled animations in my learndb. 23:35:36 ??animation 23:35:36 I don't have a page labeled animation in my learndb. 23:38:25 "stuff with a random appearance" tends to be blue 23:38:39 i don't recall if books are 23:39:20 -!- demiskeleton has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:39:34 books are... not, I think 23:43:11 -!- Twinge has quit [] 23:43:40 I make all unided consumables, books, staves, jewellery, and rods blue 23:44:53 -!- xFleury has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 32.0/20140825202822]] 23:46:34 the message for casting Condensation Shield while you have a shield is poor - "The spell fizzles." 23:46:50 compare ozo armour - "Your body armour is too heavy." 23:48:21 yeah that is a confusing message 23:49:03 it's a canned generic message 23:49:12 though I don't think it appears in very many places at all, these days 23:49:14 For Some Reason 23:49:17 -!- Twinge has joined ##crawl-dev 23:49:26 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 23:49:58 should I mantis it? 23:51:02 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.16-a0-386-gecf7668: Don't let Trog gift the Majin-Bo (Prism) 10(11 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=ecf76683bb85 23:51:37 eh, I'll fix it. 23:53:18 03PleasingFungus02 07[stone_soup-0.15] * 0.15.0-31-geb66e34: Don't let Trog gift the Majin-Bo (Prism) 10(13 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=eb66e34ce825 23:54:13 "Your shield frosts over for a moment." 23:54:14 <_< 23:54:17 oh 23:54:21 I already pushed a much more boring change 23:54:32 probably I shouldn't be making changes to 0.16 but 23:54:34 eh 23:55:03 also, the majin-bo trog cherry-pick is my first 0.15/0.16 horrible conflict issue! thanks, wheals 23:55:08 (check out the two commits) 23:55:11 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:55:14 good one, grunt 23:55:29 my trog-bo tactics!!! 23:55:30 ruined 23:55:43 Top Ruiners 23:56:02 how do we see wheals' conflict? 23:56:20 eh, you don't really. just look at the diff between the diffs 23:56:25 it's hidden deep within his soul 23:56:28 ya 23:57:02 -!- Hailley has quit [Quit: Petra is closed!] 23:57:15 they both look the same here 23:58:07 oh I see, a different way of writing the conditional 23:58:24 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.16-a0-387-g87af23e: Give a better message for cshield fizzling (rchandra) 10(4 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=87af23eba90e 23:58:44 nice