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##crawl-dev 04:21:56 <|amethyst> soulfreshner: are you running crawl from the build directory, or installing it? 04:23:17 <|amethyst> soulfreshner: assuming the former: build other versions of crawl in separate directories; then edit the main version's webserver/config.py 04:23:32 -!- rorriMnm1D has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 04:23:55 I just built it 04:24:06 <|amethyst> soulfreshner: copy the stuff in games = OrderedDict([ ]) and change the paths from ./ to wherever the other game is 04:24:51 sounds easy enough, thanks :) 04:26:13 <|amethyst> soulfreshner: to get saves in the right place, you might need to write a wrapper script to cd into the other directory, or use something like options = ["-dir", "/path/to/other/build"] 04:27:19 -!- WildSam has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:28:39 -!- soulfreshner has quit [Quit: soulfreshner] 04:30:03 -!- rorriMnmaD has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:39:52 -!- WildSam has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:40:03 -!- 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Use !messages to read them. 09:02:19 -!- Koz_ has quit [Client Quit] 09:06:01 -!- croikle has quit [Quit: croikle] 09:06:33 -!- schistosomatic has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:07:11 -!- radinms_ has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 09:07:20 -!- penciltax has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 09:09:37 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 09:10:29 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 09:12:10 -!- Jho has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:17:05 -!- omnirizon has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 09:17:15 -!- FiftyNine has quit [Read error: Network is unreachable] 09:19:56 -!- schistosoma has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 09:20:09 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 09:24:42 -!- Ququman has joined ##crawl-dev 09:27:46 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 09:28:32 -!- fridurmus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:29:04 -!- negatendo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:31:25 -!- doubtofbuddha has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:32:10 -!- bmfx has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 09:33:31 -!- negatendo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:36:40 -!- Smello has quit [Quit: Bye!] 09:36:40 -!- Jho_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:37:44 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 09:40:12 -!- TS__ has joined ##crawl-dev 09:40:31 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 09:41:05 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 09:41:33 dpeg: hello, good to see you around! 09:42:11 the lost designer has returned! 09:45:10 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 09:45:37 -!- MgDark has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:53:33 pfff 09:53:36 wheals: hi there! 09:53:49 got some small ideas for 0.16, just like for 0.15 09:53:51 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 09:54:09 (and yes, chunkless was too ambitious... pretty clear in hindsight) 09:55:38 Hello! 09:55:38 PleasingFungus: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 09:55:57 nice tournament you got going :) 09:56:06 a bit late for my tastes 09:56:08 shame if something happened to it? 09:56:10 same turnaround like for 0.14 09:56:10 -!- rossi has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.0] 09:56:33 |amethyst's team still has spots open if you want to compete! 09:56:40 !whereis dpeg 09:56:40 dpeg the Gusty (L1 DsAE) quit on D:1 on 2011-10-05 after 0 turns. 09:56:44 @whereis dpeg 09:56:45 dpeg the Earth Mage (L24 FoEE), a worshipper of Lugonu, is currently on Crypt:3 after 91414 turns. 09:56:53 !locateall dpeg 09:56:55 dpeg: CDO 0.15, L24 FoEE of Lugonu 09:57:01 ooh, nice 09:57:08 wheals: what clan? 09:57:11 !lm dpeg god.worship=lugonu 09:57:11 6. [2014-09-01 11:24:48] dpeg the Earth Mage (L16 FoEE of Lugonu) became a worshipper of Lugonu on turn 37194. (Abyss:1) 09:57:26 which god did you abandon? 09:57:35 dpeg: named Young TrCKs, i think 09:57:46 wheals: I reckoned that as a freshly banished FoEE of Vehumet, I'd better switch allegiance. 09:58:03 no teleport is lethal there 09:58:16 oh, yeah 09:58:25 need to allow shafting to deeper abyss :P 09:58:28 -!- kober has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Iceweasel 24.7.0/20140723063708]] 09:58:41 something like this is one my ideas a:) 09:59:22 -!- svendre has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:01:31 -!- p0werm0de has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:02:12 i don't have any particularly ambitious plans for 0.16 either -- i think i will be much busier this semester 10:02:14 gotta go now, actually 10:02:16 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Bye] 10:03:57 bye wheals 10:04:02 -!- TS__ has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 10:05:09 -!- TS__ has joined ##crawl-dev 10:06:07 !seen |amethyst 10:06:07 I last saw |amethyst at Tue Sep 2 09:26:13 2014 UTC (5h 39m 53s ago) saying 'soulfreshner: to get saves in the right place, you might need to write a wrapper script to cd into the other directory, or use something like options = ["-dir", "/path/to/other/build"]' on ##crawl-dev. 10:06:16 <|amethyst> yo 10:06:47 oy 10:06:48 <|amethyst> Your win ratio is a little high, but as long as I don't do !boring it's <1% so I say you're fine :) 10:06:48 you wanna add some slacker to your team? 10:07:07 what clan name 10:07:09 ? 10:07:36 <|amethyst> "Young TrCKs", but you want TEAMCAPTAIN neil 10:07:47 cool, I'll get on it! 10:17:37 -!- magicpoints has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:17:41 -!- siepu has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:17:55 -!- eb has joined ##crawl-dev 10:18:39 -!- SomeStupidGuy has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:21:49 -!- Morg0th has quit [Quit: leaving] 10:25:28 oh hey, it's dpeg! 10:26:20 -!- bmfx has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 10:29:51 doy, you're awaken from eternal slumber!!! 10:30:16 it's true! 10:31:09 Looked pretty good to me! Do you have a plan for Crawl? Your commits looked a bit like it. 10:32:49 -!- eb has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:36:00 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 10:39:38 -!- Kaput has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 10:39:52 i am building a pretty decent sized todo list 10:40:08 -!- eb has joined ##crawl-dev 10:40:08 not sure how much i'll be able to get through, but you know how that goes 10:40:12 currently i'm busy splatting a fair number of vine stalkers 10:40:22 apparently i'm a bit rusty in terms of actually playing crawl 10:41:19 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 10:41:20 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 10:41:47 doy: because these devs keep moving the goal posts all the time! The wisdom of 2008 won't win games anymore. 10:41:52 (: 10:42:27 -!- Stoats has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 10:46:16 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 34.0a1/20140901091008]] 10:50:55 if you want a solid VS then try rolling a VS stabber of chei 10:51:21 (oh and train spellcasting (at 50% or more) up to like 5 right off the bat) 10:54:09 vsbe feels like it should be really easy 10:54:31 the regen just is very misleading in terms of how sturdy they actually are 10:54:53 because their hp is actually very low 10:55:04 -!- kroki has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:55:12 it just doesn't usually feel like it, until you start meeting things that hit hard 10:55:19 their hp is actually really high if your str/dex are high and you're using a fast weapon 10:55:28 (and you have a lot of maxmp 10:57:27 -!- fridurmus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:57:44 -!- _D_ has quit [Quit: leaving] 11:01:41 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 11:02:31 -!- Tungsten has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:03:18 -!- eb has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:03:28 -!- rchandra has joined ##crawl-dev 11:05:10 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 11:06:14 -!- Stoats has quit [Read error: No route to host] 11:07:38 -!- hurdos1 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 11:08:12 03doy02 07* 0.16-a0-324-g99bef82: apply equip/unequip effects from melding simultaneously (8753) 10(34 hours ago, 3 files, 20+ 12-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=99bef82af482 11:08:58 (sorry if that conflicts with formreform, i figured it was small enough) 11:09:26 oh, I'm sure it does, but I'll survive 11:09:37 will rebase tonight 11:10:49 -!- Jho has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:17:13 -!- tsohg has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:17:37 oh, dang, just looked at 8753. good bug 11:21:21 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:24:36 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 11:31:46 -!- Stoats_ has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 11:33:05 !bug 8753 11:33:05 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=8753 11:33:39 --, not nearly as funny as eb's bat form bug report 11:34:12 was that being stuck in batform? 11:34:21 yes 11:36:45 -!- tsohg has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:42:27 -!- Euph0ria has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 11:42:53 -!- Z_LAMP has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:42:54 -!- Sonata has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:49:51 hm 11:49:51 do blood pots still cause "sick" for non-vampires? 11:50:08 pretty sure they do from the last time i looked at it 11:50:44 the chance depending on your level of carnivore 11:50:55 nice 11:53:07 -!- bedkrab is now known as Atomikkrab 11:55:37 -!- Amuys has quit [Client Quit] 11:57:43 -!- doubtofbuddha has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:57:51 -!- bencryption has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.3] 11:58:04 -!- mopl has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:59:00 -!- SomeStupidGuy has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 11:59:02 -!- Surr has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:59:52 -!- Earlo has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:00:52 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 12:01:10 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:02:33 Stable (0.15) branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.15.0-13-gb296d5c 12:02:50 -!- TS__ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 12:02:58 -!- kroki_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:05:10 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:05:25 -!- Ratboiler has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:05:26 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:06:03 -!- Koz_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:07:18 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.16-a0-324-g99bef82 (34) 12:10:19 -!- Venter has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:11:52 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 12:12:37 -!- wheals has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:12:51 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 12:13:07 -!- jho_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:14:23 -!- Lightli has joined ##crawl-dev 12:17:44 -!- SomeStupidGirl has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:17:57 -!- SomeStupidGuy has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:18:25 -!- Naruni has joined ##crawl-dev 12:18:27 hello 12:18:31 hello 12:18:53 well ive got my new cpu so i can get back to coding some stuff 12:19:18 reconfiguring systems sucks though 12:19:25 unfortunately, coding is now forbidden. 12:19:29 crawl is done. it's over. 12:19:31 I'm sorry. 12:19:55 you mean... it finally became self-aware? 12:20:49 what do you mean "finally" 12:23:32 what 12:23:53 when did crawl development end 12:27:45 ? 12:27:45 right after lightlis were removed 12:27:45 or... right before?? 12:28:46 hey, I have a question regarding online console: I connect with "ssh -C -l user -i key server" and this works fine for CAO, CBRO and CLAN. However on CDO and CSZO the connection closes immediately with "Connection to server closed." If I execute the ssh command within screen / tmux it suddenly works for CDO / CSZO. Does anybody have an idea what could be the cause of this? 12:28:46 rip lightlis 12:28:47 Tedronai: your TERM setting 12:28:54 ??lava orc 12:28:54 lava orc[1/2]: WTF was that? Unthing! 12:28:58 you're using some terminal that those servers don't recognize 12:29:01 ??lava orc [2] 12:29:01 lava orc[2/2]: A race concept that turned out to be too hot for the devs to handle, and never made it into stable before removal. 12:29:08 doy: rxvt-unicode-256color 12:29:11 Tedronai: yeah 12:29:18 try TERM=rxvt-unicode or TERM=rxvt 12:29:29 ah! 12:29:30 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:29:38 rxvt-unicode-256color is pretty recent 12:30:02 thank you very much 12:30:15 (probably only set that for the ssh command, because it's still useful to have the more precise setting elsewhere) 12:30:19 but if he doesn't use it how will he experience crawl in all 256 colours??? 12:30:22 I guess I'll create an alias which sets the environment first 12:30:24 ??djinn 12:30:28 yeah 12:30:28 I don't have a page labeled djinn in my learndb. 12:30:28 that's what i do 12:30:28 rip djinn 12:30:33 ??mountain dwarf 12:30:34 hill orc[1/3]: Like a {mountain dwarf} but better and exists, try "!apt HO". Also, can worship {beogh}. And they're saprovorous (in 0.14-), which was nice. 12:30:36 :v 12:31:05 -!- agentgt has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.7] 12:33:39 ??gnome 12:33:39 gnome[1/1]: Woohoo, earth aptitude of 60, but spellcasting of 156. Least played and won race as of 0.4.5. They were cut and replaced by Deep Dwarves. 12:33:57 ...156, really 12:34:18 haha 12:34:26 "-2 and a tiny bit" 12:34:29 well 12:34:53 that was because spellcasting had a special formula 12:34:53 for some reason 12:34:53 right, of course 12:34:56 like it was +10% of the normal value or something 12:35:06 probably so that hu could have 0 in all apts 12:35:09 right 12:35:09 !apt hu 12:35:09 Hu: Fighting: 0, Short: 0, Long: 0, Axes: 0, Maces: 0, Polearms: 0, Staves: 0, Slings: 0, Bows: 0, Xbows: 0, Throw: 0, Armour: 0, Dodge: 0, Stealth: 1, Shields: 0, UC: 0, Splcast: -1, Conj: 0, Hexes: 0, Charms: 0, Summ: 0, Nec: 0, Tloc: 0, Tmut: 0, Fire: 0, Ice: 0, Air: 0, Earth: 0, Poison: 0, Inv: 1, Evo: 1, Exp: 1!, HP: 0, MP: 0 12:35:32 -!- MH_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:41:07 -!- Blomdor has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:41:45 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 12:45:12 -!- Blomdor_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:47:03 -!- tsohg has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:47:15 -!- siepu has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:51:06 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 12:51:06 ??plan 12:51:06 plan[1/1]: https://crawl.develz.org/wiki/doku.php?id=dcss:planning:release_plans 12:51:06 -!- lrvs has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:56:12 -!- tcjsavannah has quit [Quit: tcjsavannah] 12:56:53 -!- wheals has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:59:32 !tell dpeg !lm perunasaurus grhe xl=27 1 -tv:T74199 12:59:32 potatolizard: OK, I'll let dpeg know. 12:59:53 !lm perunasaurus grhe xl=27 1 -tv:T74199 12:59:55 1/5. perunasaurus, XL27 GrHe, T:73684 (milestone) requested for FooTV (telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org). 13:00:37 huh, is that supposed to render as a TM? 13:00:39 yes 13:01:47 !greatrole tm 13:01:47 potatolizard is a greattransmuter! 13:01:47 congrats! :) 13:01:59 also congrats on not dying 13:02:35 dpeg's ghost points at ye threateningly. 13:03:37 what the hell is wrong with ghost damage 13:03:47 that shatter hit me for 169 through 70+ ac 13:04:45 !lm perunasaurus grhe xl=27 1 -tv:T74199 13:04:45 1/7. perunasaurus, XL27 GrHe, T:73684 (milestone) requested for FooTV (telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org). 13:06:46 -!- Lightli_ has joined ##crawl-dev 13:06:55 welll, you were a non-flying gargoyle 13:06:58 goblin (15g) | Spd: 10 | HD: 27 | HP: 85-131 | AC/EV: 0/12 | Dam: 4 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, !sil | Res: 06magic(36) | XP: 4025 | Sp: shatter | Sz: small | Int: normal. 13:06:58 %??goblin hd:27 spells:shatter 13:07:09 oh, right, no display because of the weird way shatter works 13:07:26 !source spl-damage.cc 13:07:26 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/spl-damage.cc;hb=HEAD 13:07:26 -!- Ragdoll has joined ##crawl-dev 13:08:46 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:08:46 -!- Zooty_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:10:27 -!- Ragdoll has quit [Client Quit] 13:10:45 !lg dpeg !won xl>20 13:10:46 22. dpeg the Metallomancer (L26 FoEE of Lugonu), blasted by a fire giant (fireball) (kmap: vault_1) on Depths:2 on 2014-09-02 16:56:44, with 511173 points after 112387 turns and 7:20:56. 13:11:30 6d45 then 13:11:38 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 13:11:39 PleasingFungus: I'm not really convinced that damage is still reasonable in any way 13:12:07 looks like it's 6dsomething, which is gonna produce very high variance 13:12:16 (few dice) 13:12:37 oh, sorry, missed your comment 13:12:51 Jorgrun (13g) | Spd: 10 | HD: 15 | HP: 120 | AC/EV: 2/15 | Dam: 20 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, spellcaster | Res: 06magic(120) | XP: 1518 | Sp: rapid deconstruction (42d1), petrify, shatter, dig | Sz: Medium | Int: high. 13:12:51 %??jorgrun 13:13:32 -!- Codrus has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:13:34 it seems like the gargoyle thing is "good defenses against most things, but tends to take huge amounts of damage from specific sources" 13:13:47 6d29 for jorgrun 13:14:26 which is more reasonable 13:14:26 (early: priests, late: shatter & LRD when not flying, airstrike when flying) 13:14:26 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 13:14:26 the difference really is just that the ghost is 26hd 13:14:26 which is quite a lot 13:14:31 I forget what kind of HD pan lords have 13:14:55 they can, rarely, have shatter 13:14:57 pandemonium lord (10&) | Spd: 10-19 | HD: 26 | HP: 105-243 | AC/EV: 14/14 | Dam: 44 | 05demonic, 10doors, fighter, !sil | Res: 06magic(173), 02cold, 10elec, 03poison, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 5323 | Sp: (random) | Sz: Large | Int: high. 13:14:57 %??pandemonium lord 13:14:58 though idk how likely they are to use it with pals nearby 13:15:37 Lightli_: note ofc that some of that is misleading - iirc, hd is randomized, resists are certainly randomized... 13:16:12 but yeah, looks like they can do top-tier shatter damage too 13:16:12 pandemonium lord (10&) | Spd: 10-19 | HD: 26 | HP: 105-243 | AC/EV: 14/14 | Dam: 44 | 05demonic, 10doors, fighter, !sil | Res: 06magic(173), 02cold, 10elec, 03poison, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 5323 | Sp: (random) | Sz: Large | Int: high. 13:16:12 %??pandemonium lord 13:16:17 yeah 13:16:21 -!- Nabalzbhf has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:16:25 I know they top out at I think 30 HD 13:16:27 -!- Lightli_ is now known as Lightli 13:16:37 yeah, hd is randomized 13:17:56 -!- tcjsavannah has quit [Quit: tcjsavannah] 13:18:39 !source ghost.cc:237 13:18:39 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/ghost.cc;hb=HEAD#l237 13:18:39 so 10+2d10 13:18:39 so average around 20hd 13:19:12 anyway, i don't think the damage is *too* unreasonable as it is 13:19:23 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:20:07 26hd monsters with shatter are quite rare, and flying negates the gargoyle bonus damage 13:21:03 3d45 (for non-gargoyles) is high, but on the same order as other top-tier monster spells 13:22:03 ancient lich (16L) | Spd: 10 | HD: 27 | HP: 85-130 | AC/EV: 20/10 | Dam: 2013(drain) | 07undead, 10doors, evil, spellcaster, see invisible | Res: 13magic(immune), 05fire, 02cold++, 10elec, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 7513 | Sp: b.cold (3d37), paralyse, sum.greater demon, animate dead, iron shot (3d44), 04esc:teleport self / b.corrosive (3d28), slow, invisibility, throw icicle (3d37), crystal spear (3d48) / b.fire (3d37), confuse, haste, b.draining (3d33), sum.greater demon, 04esc:banishment / mystic blast (3d30), b.cold (3d37), invisibility, animate dead, o.destruction (9d20) | Sz: Medium | Int: high. 13:22:03 %??ancient lich 13:22:26 you know like lcs 13:24:23 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 13:25:37 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:26:21 -!- SomeStupidGuy has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:38:17 -!- Kadarus has quit [Quit: Bye] 13:41:53 -!- Sharkman1231 has quit [Client Quit] 13:42:02 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:43:16 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 13:49:48 -!- Z_LAMP has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:50:25 -!- Sharkman1231 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:50:50 Stable (0.15) branch on crawl.lantea.net updated to: 0.15.0-13-gb296d5c 13:52:25 -!- ldf has quit [Quit: ldf] 13:53:23 -!- fridurmus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:01:12 -!- Ratboiler has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:04:27 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 14:09:26 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 14:13:07 -!- Miauw has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:19:16 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 14:23:34 -!- ibar has quit [Quit: leaving] 14:26:23 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 14:26:31 -!- fridurmus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:27:42 -!- Yermak_ is now known as Yermak 14:32:40 -!- _aardvark has quit [] 14:33:07 -!- TZer0 has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.2] 14:37:22 -!- absolutego has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:40:53 -!- Jho has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:41:41 -!- Bob34 has quit [Client Quit] 14:46:12 -!- rkd has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:49:27 -!- ZRN has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:49:53 -!- fridurmus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:50:59 -!- ebering_ is now known as ebering 14:56:34 -!- Sharkman1231 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:58:14 -!- mopl has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:58:40 -!- tsohg has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:04:14 -!- Wolfechu has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:04:22 -!- ldf has joined ##crawl-dev 15:04:58 -!- uglyjohn has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:07:11 -!- bonghitz_ has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 15:09:46 !lg * t kmap=~pf_ 15:09:46 No games for * (t kmap=~pf_). 15:09:55 !lg * kmap=~pf_ 15:09:55 5. Wintastic the Severer (L11 MiFi of Okawaru), slain by a 12-headed hydra on Lair:3 (pf_torpor_hydra) on 2014-08-20 19:49:17, with 14995 points after 11916 turns and 0:44:10. 15:10:03 !lg * t kmap=~gammafunk_ 15:10:04 5. Sirrick the Conjurer (L12 DrCj of Vehumet), blasted by a catoblepas (blast of calcifying dust) on Lair:4 (gammafunk_lair_enchanted_lake) on 2014-09-02 14:48:07, with 21261 points after 14693 turns and 0:42:29. 15:10:20 !lg * t kmap=~grunt_ 15:10:21 114. salade2fruit the Warrior (L19 GrCK of Jiyva), blasted by a deep elf annihilator (crystal spear) on Elf:3 (grunt_elf_hall_branching) on 2014-09-02 19:15:33, with 263025 points after 49643 turns and 5:08:23. 15:10:44 grunt supremacy, clearly 15:10:54 at least I'm on the scoreboard! 15:10:58 unlike some people 15:11:05 !lg * t kmap=~wheals 15:11:06 No games for * (t kmap=~wheals). 15:11:13 appalling 15:11:20 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: FR: rename one of those kinds of rats to "nutrias" 15:11:43 !lg * t kmap=~gammafunk_ s=kmap 15:11:44 5 games for * (t kmap=~gammafunk_): 4x gammafunk_lair_enchanted_lake, gammafunk_depths_entry_grave 15:11:52 <|amethyst> I guess they're not toxic, but I don't know what rats are 15:11:53 tbh "river rat" would be a pretty good name for green rats 15:11:56 that lair vault keeps delivering, I should make more of those 15:12:22 !lg * t kmap=~grunt_ s=kmap 15:12:23 114 games for * (t kmap=~grunt_): 9x grunt_orc_community_town_hall, 5x grunt_enter_depths_hoard, 5x grunt_megastairs_3, 5x grunt_orc_cross, 4x grunt_spider_rune_circles, 4x grunt_orc_garden, 4x grunt_orc_tribal_feast, 3x grunt_livestock, 3x grunt_tengu_nest, 3x grunt_spider_rune_island, 3x grunt_temple_overflow_bloody_war, 3x grunt_megastairs_4, 3x grunt_ministairs_15, 3x grunt_ministairs_7, 3x gr... 15:12:25 +1 to river rat 15:13:04 or orange rats ??? http://images.northrup.org/picture/xl/nutria/nutria-teeth-2.jpg 15:13:08 hey no fair, he's making overflow temples that place enemies 15:13:51 !vault grunt_temple_overflow_bloody_war 15:13:51 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/dat/des/altar/overflow.des;hb=HEAD#l2707 15:13:55 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: capybara? 15:14:00 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: death beaver? 15:14:02 -!- mopl has quit [Client Quit] 15:14:10 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:14:10 DEATH 15:14:10 BEAVER 15:14:24 death beaver + death yak = ? 15:14:30 a gnoll with a berserk pot 15:14:33 gruuuunt 15:14:38 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: = a death cartoon show 15:14:52 PleasingFungus: can we work in the beaver reference from lady and the tramp? 15:14:52 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: they are mortal enemies of Boris and Natasha 15:15:01 one of my favorite disney scenes 15:15:01 gammafunk: the what 15:15:09 I haven't watched that movie since I was like 15:15:10 six 15:15:23 you don't remember the beaver that the tramp fools into removing lady's leash? 15:15:24 also imho rename some kind of rat to "mara" 15:15:26 classic 15:15:26 just to maximize confusion 15:15:38 man, I barely remember that movie existed 15:16:44 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josephoartigasia_monesi one-ton rat 15:17:09 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 15:17:12 defended itself against TERROR BIRDS with foot-long fangs 15:17:46 unfortunately _Josephoartigasia monesi_ isn't exactly a DCSS kind of monster name 15:18:22 Not with that attitude it isn't. 15:18:27 heh. 15:19:41 "monesi" isn't a terrible name, but no one would know what it was 15:20:42 is this a "serious" enemy proposal? 15:21:12 I'm thinking about rat names 15:21:12 I see neil involved, so I'm doubtful 15:21:30 orange rats already roar 15:21:48 what does fancy rat do? 15:21:52 sparkles 15:22:04 also I was completely serious about "green rat" -> "river rat" 15:22:11 ah, we don't like green rats then 15:22:16 I am no big fan of green rats 15:22:23 doy made a list of bad monster names 15:22:24 -!- Brannock_ has joined ##crawl-dev 15:22:36 yeah green rat is a pretty bad name 15:22:38 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 15:22:51 I just don't like that you fight so many of the things in lair 15:22:57 they're a weird enemy 15:23:06 and what do they leave you? poisonous corpses that each leave one chunk 15:23:13 and you have to cut up 10 of them 15:23:15 green rat (09r) | Spd: 10 | HD: 2 | HP: 6-16 | AC/EV: 5/11 | Dam: 10 | Res: 06magic(8) | Chunks: 09poison | XP: 13 | Sz: tiny | Int: animal. 15:23:15 %??green_rat 15:23:23 yak (07Y) | Spd: 10 | HD: 7 | HP: 25-53 | AC/EV: 4/7 | Dam: 18 | Res: 06magic(28) | XP: 205 | Sz: Large | Int: animal. 15:23:23 %??yak 15:23:35 unknown monster: "water_moccassin" 15:23:35 %??water_moccassin 15:23:38 water moccasin (07S) | Spd: 14 (swim: 60%) | HD: 5 | HP: 17-38 | AC/EV: 2/15 | Dam: 1008(poison:10-20) | amphibious, cold-blooded | Res: 06magic(20), 03poison, 12drown | Chunks: 09poison | XP: 149 | Sz: small | Int: reptile. 15:23:38 %??water_moccasin 15:23:55 the entire pack is like less xp than a water moccasin 15:24:20 to be fair 15:24:21 orange rat (04r) | Spd: 12 | HD: 3 | HP: 9-24 | AC/EV: 7/10 | Dam: 2013(drain) | evil | Res: 06magic(12) | Vul: 08holy | Chunks: 09poison | XP: 34 | Sz: little | Int: animal. 15:24:21 %??orange_rat 15:24:27 the entire pack is less danger than one water moccasin 15:24:36 well that's not precisely true 15:24:48 for one they can totally restrict your movement 15:24:49 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 15:24:51 because the pack is so big 15:25:15 for lower-defense char they can be a lot worse, but still not very dangerous of course 15:25:41 but I'd like to see many no or fewer green rat packs, and maybe replace some of that with perhaps smaller orange rat packs 15:25:51 also, orange rat: another bad name 15:25:53 -!- Brannock has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:27:05 I'm afraid to go look and see how many green rats one see on average in lair 15:28:23 42.8 15:28:40 orange rats on average: 1.2 15:30:22 orange rats vulnerable to holy, who knew 15:30:34 | evil | 15:31:37 yes, they're evil 15:31:49 much like certain devs...... 15:31:52 everyone knows orange is the color of evil 15:31:54 it's just surprising that orange rats have a holy vuln 15:32:05 hm 15:32:08 hell knight (05p) | Spd: 10 | HD: 10 | HP: 49-81 | AC/EV: 0/10 | Dam: 26 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, fighter, evil, spellcaster | Res: 06magic(40), 05hellfire, 04fire+++ | Vul: 08holy | XP: 791 | Sp: pain (d13), b.fire (3d18), 04esc:blink / pain (d13), throw flame (3d8), haste | Sz: Medium | Int: high. 15:32:08 %??hell knight 15:32:12 if they do indeed have it, and it's not some monster thing 15:32:26 hell rat 15:32:27 iirc vul:holy means "vulnerable to cleansing flame", not "vulnerable to holy wrath" 15:32:36 mummy (15M) | Spd: 6 | HD: 3 | HP: 15-24 | AC/EV: 3/6 | Dam: 20 | 07undead, 10doors, evil | Res: 06magic(20), 02cold, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 04fire, 08holy++ | XP: 18 | Sz: Medium | Int: normal. 15:32:36 %??mummy 15:32:36 yes 15:32:44 holy++ 15:32:52 white imp (165) | Spd: 10 | HD: 2 | HP: 6-16 | AC/EV: 4/10 | Dam: 412(cold:2-5) | 05demonic, 10doors, fly, !sil | Res: 06magic(8), 02cold++, 03poison, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 04fire, 08holy++ | XP: 10 | Sp: throw frost (3d5) | Sz: little | Int: normal. 15:32:52 %??white imp 15:33:02 nice 15:33:07 which is a funny way to state a vulnerability, but it works I guess 15:33:21 alternatel fr make those work the same way 15:33:21 -!- fridurmus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:33:44 nerf cleansing flame, or buff holy wrath? 15:33:46 apparently tso hates evil things enough to burn them with one thing but not enough to burn them with another thing 15:33:53 Hell rat (04r) | Spd: 18 | HD: 14 | HP: 87-143 | AC/EV: 7/10 | Dam: 3013(drain) | evil, !sil | Res: 06magic(56) | Vul: 08holy | Chunks: 09poison | XP: 1055 | Sp: berserker rage | Sz: little | Int: animal. 15:33:53 %??orange rat hd:14 perm_ench:berserk name:Hell_rat n_rpl 15:34:02 probably remove holy wrath would be the real fr 15:34:54 oddly I don't think many (any?) evil monsters have zerk 15:35:18 Snorg (09T) | Spd: 10 | HD: 8 | HP: 96 | AC/EV: 0/10 | Dam: 20, 15, 15 | 10doors, regen, !sil | Res: 06magic(64) | XP: 1134 | Sp: berserker rage | Sz: Large | Int: normal. 15:35:18 %??snorg 15:35:23 snorg: a good troll 15:35:41 not evil != good 15:35:49 -!- soulfreshner has joined ##crawl-dev 15:35:51 maybe he's chaotic neutral 15:36:33 well he's good for a troll 15:36:52 troll (07T) | Spd: 10 | HD: 7 | HP: 25-53 | AC/EV: 3/10 | Dam: 20, 15, 15 | 10doors, regen | Res: 06magic(28) | XP: 305 | Sz: Large | Int: normal. 15:36:52 %?? troll 15:37:21 %git 2f6db23 15:37:21 07dolorous02 * 0.4-a0-1438-g2f6db23: Mark a few more monsters as non-evil, since they're fighting types that use no evil spells: hill giants, ettins, cyclopes, stone giants, titans, deep trolls, Snorg, Polyphemus, and Tiamat. 10(6 years ago, 1 file, 10+ 11-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=2f6db23aaa3f 15:37:48 cyclopes 15:37:53 cyclopes! 15:37:54 I am becoming alarmed at my own knowledge of crawl commit trivia 15:38:25 Tiamat (16d) | Spd: 15 | HD: 22 | HP: 570 | AC/EV: 39/20 | Dam: 90, 67 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, cold-blooded, see invisible, fly, !sil | Res: 06magic(58), 02cold, 03poison | Vul: 11silver | XP: 9228 | Sp: b.lightning (3d25) / b.quicksilver (3d20) / cold breath (3d28) / fire breath (3d28) / poisonous cloud (3d13) | Sz: Medium | Int: high. 15:38:25 %??Tiamat perm_ench:berserk 15:38:29 -!- Tuxedo[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:38:42 don't you just want some of that 15:38:44 -!- Brannock has joined ##crawl-dev 15:39:03 if she zerks, she won't use her abilities 15:39:08 which seems kind of bad 15:39:25 yeah 15:39:33 just think of all the 3d20 breath you'll be losing out on 15:40:04 and all the 3d28 breath, avg damage 45 15:40:05 and instead getting hammered on by 1d100+1d67 at speed 15 15:40:19 which is only resisted by AC and EV 15:40:23 oh, because you'd definitely stand there and let her do that? 15:41:12 -!- soulfreshner has quit [Quit: soulfreshner] 15:41:45 -!- Brannock_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:42:25 -!- Sharkman1231 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:43:33 -!- hauzer has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 15:43:50 -!- Euph0ria has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 15:43:50 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 15:45:34 -!- soulfreshner has joined ##crawl-dev 15:46:52 -!- Tedronai has quit [Quit: leaving] 15:49:07 -!- soulfreshner has quit [Client Quit] 15:51:34 -!- absolutego has quit [Quit: leaving] 15:55:31 -!- tcjsavannah_ has quit [Quit: tcjsavannah_] 15:56:06 -!- Krakhan has quit [Changing host] 15:56:06 -!- siepu has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:57:42 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 15:57:53 !vault vault_1 15:57:53 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/dat/des/variable/mini_features.des;hb=HEAD#l3694 15:58:08 -!- stanzill has quit [Changing host] 15:58:19 close, Sequell 16:00:42 -!- Mottikins__ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:06:31 -!- Earlo has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:12:13 -!- raskol has joined ##crawl-dev 16:12:25 what is you.depth? 16:12:39 your depth in the current branch iirc 16:13:18 at one point there was an absolute depth that was your distance from the surface, is that still used? 16:13:32 yeah absdepth is still used in various ways 16:13:38 i'm pretty sure that one is used in item generation 16:14:00 thanks 16:14:02 it's an abstraction, not an actual number of floors between you and the surface 16:14:51 right, mostly used as a kind of indicator of "difficulty of level", but there are probably abuses or other uses of that notion (for absdepth) 16:14:53 !bug 1704 16:14:53 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=1704 16:15:41 i wonder if there was ever an absdepth1 16:16:15 absdepth is also recognized by lg, and lg uses the parameter 'lvl' for depth 16:16:22 which always gets me 16:16:51 !lg PleasingFungus br=depths lvl<5 16:16:52 2. PleasingFungus the Conjurer (L22 DgEn), blasted by a spriggan air mage (the air) on Depths:3 (gammafunk_depths_water_palace) on 2014-07-03 19:00:25, with 465772 points after 85648 turns and 6:31:23. 16:17:01 a great example of proper lg usage, kids 16:17:13 imagine me, shaking my fist at you 16:17:22 oh, what's no. 1?!?!?! 16:17:25 !lg PleasingFungus br=depths lvl<5 -2 16:17:26 1/2. PleasingFungus the Fencer (L21 DrAK of Lugonu), mangled by a spriggan defender (a +0,+2 lajatang of electrocution) on Depths:4 on 2014-02-03 06:00:57, with 376304 points after 75530 turns and 7:30:27. 16:17:29 wow 16:17:31 you and spriggans 16:17:35 an unhealthy relationship 16:17:37 ya 16:17:50 !lg * t depths s=killer 16:17:51 52 games for * (t depths): 4x a deep troll, 3x a fire giant, 3x a spriggan air mage, 3x a lich, 3x an octopode crusher, 2x a stone giant, 2x a storm dragon, 2x a stone giant (illusionary), 2x Mara, 2x a deep troll earth mage, , a shadow dragon, a bone dragon, an azure jelly, a very large slime creature, an iron dragon, a deep troll shaman, Tenaya's ghost, an ice dragon, a spriggan rider, a Shadow ... 16:18:03 op crusher, <3 16:18:04 good illusionary stone giants 16:18:11 heh 16:18:12 !lg * t depths killer="" 16:18:13 1. letownia the Heavyweight Champion (L25 TrWr of Kikubaaqudgha), quit the game on Depths:2 on 2014-08-30 15:47:49, with 557013 points after 75323 turns and 6:56:34. 16:18:13 hurrah for the shadow fiend 16:18:15 tied with actual stone giants 16:18:43 !lg * t depths s=-killer 16:18:44 52 games for * (t depths): Meemedoe the pandemonium lord, a deep elf high priest, an ettin simulacrum, MackTheKnife's illusion, a death yak, a spriggan berserker, an ettin, the Enchantress, an ettin (illusionary), a yellow draconian knight, an ice dragon, a shadow dragon, a bone dragon, an azure jelly, a very large slime creature, an iron dragon, a deep troll shaman, Tenaya's ghost, a mottled drac... 16:19:04 !lg * killer~~meemedoe 16:19:05 1. Wolfechu the Axe Maniac (L27 MiBe of The Shining One), blasted by Meemedoe the pandemonium lord (the air) on Depths:3 on 2014-08-31 23:09:36, with 756422 points after 86120 turns and 5:11:08. 16:19:16 ...(the air) 16:19:17 pandemonium air mage 16:19:20 >_> 16:19:33 is that airstrike? tornado? 16:19:45 airstrike 16:19:52 oh right 16:20:00 same message as from the air mage 16:20:08 -!- fridurmus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:20:11 terse, but accurate I suppose 16:21:46 !gamesby neil t 16:21:47 neil (t) has played 42 games, between 2014-08-30 01:46:58 and 2014-09-02 15:17:35, won 0, high score 32057, total score 51543, total turns 109710, play-time/day 1:14:24, total time 4:57:36. 16:22:05 anyone else notice how he's score scumming 16:22:13 report him to the server admin imo 16:27:39 -!- fridurmus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:31:25 -!- Sharkman1231 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:31:29 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 16:32:10 <|amethyst> hey, I try on every one of those games 16:32:12 <|amethyst> I just suck 16:32:20 <|amethyst> well, I did quit one 16:32:39 score scumming is much harder now that there's no starting gold, anyway (and gold doesn't count) 16:32:40 <|amethyst> !lg neil t quit 16:32:40 2. neil the Covered (L1 VpWn), quit the game on D:1 (dpeg_arrival_round_c) on 2014-09-02 15:09:43, with 0 points after 0 turns and 0:00:09. 16:32:54 <|amethyst> !lg neil t quit -2 16:32:55 1/2. neil the Ducker (L1 DEAK of Lugonu), quit the game on Abyss:1 on 2014-08-30 20:19:44, with 0 points after 0 turns and 0:00:04. 16:32:56 you actually have to kill a dude 16:32:57 <|amethyst> oh, two I guess 16:34:52 -!- gammafunk has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:39:10 -!- read has quit [Quit: uni blocks IRC ports and im too lazy to get around it rip] 16:39:20 -!- soulfreshner has joined ##crawl-dev 16:40:08 -!- giganticus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:40:12 -!- fridurmus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:40:18 -!- schistosomatic has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:41:43 -!- tsohg has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:42:48 -!- Codrus has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:45:04 -!- Ratboiler has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:48:55 -!- dob_at_school has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:50:27 -!- fridurmus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:51:21 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:51:26 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 16:51:49 -!- LexAckson has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:00:51 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 17:03:15 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 17:03:51 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 17:03:57 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 17:05:47 -!- markgo has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:07:32 -!- SamB has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:08:18 -!- Stelpa has quit [Changing host] 17:08:55 -!- Lightli has joined ##crawl-dev 17:10:58 -!- Zooty_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:14:24 -!- Euph0ria has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:15:18 -!- fridurmus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:16:03 03wheals02 07[stone_soup-0.15] * 0.15.0-14-g6bbbb5c: Correctly don't apply a berserk penalty when ctrl-attacking (#8882). 10(18 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=6bbbb5c00833 17:17:10 Unstable branch on crawl.lantea.net updated to: 0.16-a0-324-g99bef82 (34) 17:18:40 wheals: maybe I missed it, but shouldn't that be in trunk too? 17:19:23 yeah, the commit that it cherry-picked from is not on origin/master 17:19:26 yet 17:19:29 ??cheipoke 17:19:29 cheipoke[1/1]: http://s-z.org/cgi-bin/cheipoke 17:19:37 03wheals02 07* 0.16-a0-325-g1dd05b1: Correctly don't apply a berserk penalty when ctrl-attacking (#8882). 10(22 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=1dd05b10fb99 17:19:37 03wheals02 07* 0.16-a0-326-g6f2d4d4: Comment. 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=6f2d4d41ea8b 17:20:10 <|amethyst> should probably push to master before the cherry pick 17:20:44 <|amethyst> that way if some else beats you to committing, conflict you don't have a bad commit id in the branch's message 17:20:45 "probably" 17:21:34 msysgit is just soooo slow changing branches 17:21:57 wheals> msysgit is just soooo slow 17:21:59 fixed that for you 17:22:17 <|amethyst> here's a nickel, kid 17:22:17 for bonus points let windows run for over six hours in a row 17:22:24 and then try compiling something 17:22:25 tbf is was faster when i wasn't running it on an external HDD 17:22:32 s/is/it 17:22:49 for extra brownie points let it run for over 12 hours in a row 17:23:07 it'll take like 5 seconds just to execute all the itty bitty processes 17:23:13 for every file 17:28:48 -!- SomeStupidGuy has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:29:58 -!- eb has joined ##crawl-dev 17:31:56 -!- rkd has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:32:57 -!- Moonsilence has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:38:56 -!- lrvs has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:42:10 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 17:42:28 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:42:55 -!- alefury has joined ##crawl-dev 17:43:09 -!- cribo has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:44:15 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 17:44:46 !tstats 4 t0.15 17:44:50 Stats after 4 days (t0.15): 1278 players, 315 runers, 151 winners, 242 wins, winrate 1.59%, total player time 343d+18:47:57. 17:44:53 !tstats 4 t0.14 17:45:02 -!- eb has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:45:08 Stats after 4 days (t0.14): 1271 players, 354 runers, 132 winners, 200 wins, winrate 1.35%, total player time 359d+12:56:08. 17:45:18 mmm 17:45:39 -!- ruwin has quit [] 17:45:42 still fewer people getting a rune but more people getting a win, I don't know exactly what that means 17:46:27 !lm * t0.15 rune !alive / won 17:46:28 1663/2543 milestones for * (t0.15 rune !alive): N=1663/2543 (65.40%) 17:46:29 er 17:46:33 !lm * t0.15 rune urune=1 !alive / won 17:46:34 247/607 milestones for * (t0.15 rune urune=1 !alive): N=247/607 (40.69%) 17:46:39 !lm * t0.14 rune urune=1 !alive / won 17:46:41 761/2375 milestones for * (t0.14 rune urune=1 !alive): N=761/2375 (32.04%) 17:46:43 perhaps an insurgence of player skill and a slight decrease in new player dedication 17:47:24 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 17:48:36 -!- edlothiol has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:49:53 -!- eb has joined ##crawl-dev 17:58:29 -!- Vidiny has quit [] 17:59:57 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:08:22 -!- Sharkman1231 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:09:47 -!- predator117 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:11:59 -!- giganticus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:12:48 -!- Tungsten has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:15:23 -!- _miek has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:17:14 -!- Lightli has joined ##crawl-dev 18:17:47 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:20:25 -!- tbuck has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:25:08 -!- flower has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:29:27 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:30:44 I just found a vault with 94 fruit in lair, is that still intended after the old strawberry reforms? 18:31:16 -!- st_ has quit [] 18:31:22 eek 18:31:59 i don't think so, no 18:32:57 a circle of statues, a spriggan rider, and tons of small fruit piles 18:37:50 -!- SamB has joined ##crawl-dev 18:38:32 -!- PepeRC2 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:39:22 -!- Napcat has quit [Quit: leaving] 18:40:05 -!- raskol has left ##crawl-dev 18:42:22 -!- Azzkikr_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:43:11 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 18:44:50 -!- TS__ has joined ##crawl-dev 18:48:41 -!- Moanerette has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:53:24 -!- negatendo has quit [Quit: poop] 18:53:31 -!- eb_mobile has joined ##crawl-dev 18:55:15 -!- eb has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:58:16 -!- fridurmus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:58:36 -!- TS__ has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 18:59:04 -!- Siegurt has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 18:59:37 dang 18:59:40 dpeg shit-talking nemelex 18:59:42 -!- tcjsavannah has quit [Quit: tcjsavannah] 18:59:54 things are looking up for gammafunk, I guess 19:00:33 crd? 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19:43:33 dpeg: You have 3 messages. Use !messages to read them. 19:43:51 I tried to be precise and polite. 19:43:57 By now I have realised that while you can come up with good gameplay from long lists (check card games like Dominion, Race for the Galaxy or Innovation), it is a bad idea to slap this onto an existing system. I believe that Nemelex was badly conceived from the start. 19:44:00 But GDD is really a bad place to discuss design. 19:44:07 ya 19:44:14 because players are players 19:44:29 -!- Zermako has quit [] 19:44:49 -!- soulfreshner has quit [Quit: soulfreshner] 19:45:31 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 19:45:32 discussing design is passively discouraged in GDD 19:46:15 because it's hard to shoot down terrible posts without pissing off someone 19:46:39 -!- Watball has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:46:48 anyway I've been slacking on my nemelex ideas 19:46:49 No Hurt Feelings™ 19:47:17 I have a bunch of crazy stuff I'm thinking of but none of them work with each other and it's everything just still in brainstorming 19:47:49 includes probably terrible ideas like deck tabbing 19:48:16 and less immediately terrible ideas like having a single, infinite deck 19:48:27 -!- soulfreshner has joined ##crawl-dev 19:49:29 apparently the biggest problem with nemelex is similar to what some people said about gozag 19:49:41 there's a god flavour and the design has to fit it 19:49:58 eb: did you read what I wrote about Nemelex? 19:50:04 nope 19:50:10 tavern? 19:50:14 * dpeg starts thinking that ##crawl-dev is a bad place to discuss design. 19:50:21 I just arrived home 19:50:36 devwiki I guess 19:50:47 I'm not a dev so I don't really go there 19:50:47 -!- eb_mobile has quit [Quit: I quit] 19:50:50 https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=13560 19:51:12 -!- eb_mobile has joined ##crawl-dev 19:53:30 so I suppose you're really inclined to just get rid of nemelex completely 19:54:18 I was thinking of means to turn him into a more player-controlled xom 19:55:31 -!- read has joined ##crawl-dev 19:56:27 -!- namad7 has quit [] 19:56:37 which is to say, much less control over what the cards will actually do, but mostly removing the chance to be screwed over by bad/unwanted cards 19:57:11 since nemelex haters were always divided between "nemelex is op" and "nemelex kills me" 19:57:56 -!- ldf has quit [Quit: ldf] 19:58:00 (and both usually agreeing that he is boring/laborous to play) 19:58:01 I don't think anyone ever replied to my actual argument. :) 19:58:03 -!- TS__ has joined ##crawl-dev 19:58:55 well yeah 19:59:18 -!- Kramin has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 19:59:24 I don't care too much about Nemelex (I didn't propose removal, I only supported it, and I'd do it again), I am just trying to point out why I think it inherently problematic. Since people already invested so much work in making a list-based god walk, it's not necessary to remove, I think. 19:59:47 when I read "X was badly concieved from the start", I start getting worried 20:00:02 especially when there is an existing stated position that "X should be removed" 20:00:07 but communication is hard 20:00:28 imho 0.14 nemelex was fun, despite item sac; not sure about 0.15 nem yet 20:00:39 but I think there is definitely something there worth working on & improving 20:01:03 -!- Bloax has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:03:10 making nemelex a god that doesn't play out radically differently depending on how much one can be arsed to fully educate themselves in the arcane arts of a billion possible effects is probably a good general direction I'd say 20:03:31 -!- Sharkman1231 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:03:40 which is why the idea of a single deck that you wield and tab with crossed my mind 20:04:22 -!- Shimatora has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:09:44 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 20:11:44 -!- ishanyx is now known as i 20:13:09 -!- SomeStupidGuy has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:14:21 -!- SwissStopwatch has joined ##crawl-dev 20:14:38 -!- soulfreshner has left ##crawl-dev 20:17:43 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 20:19:20 -!- xFleury has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20:20:29 -!- bcode is now known as we 20:22:53 yes the 0.14 nem was good since you couldn't micromanage gift weighting 20:26:55 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:30:16 -!- bh has joined ##crawl-dev 20:30:46 -!- fridurmus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:40:58 !tell wheals thx for fixing the berserk penalty thing :) 20:40:59 Patashu: OK, I'll let wheals know. 20:42:19 -!- Crehl has quit [Quit: Killed by a kitten.] 20:46:38 -!- tsohg has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:46:42 -!- xFleury has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:48:24 -!- eb_mobile has quit [Quit: I quit] 20:48:44 -!- eb_mobile has joined ##crawl-dev 20:49:57 -!- SomeStupidGuy has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:51:46 -!- tsohg has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:52:15 -!- eb_ has joined ##crawl-dev 20:53:07 -!- eb_mobile has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:53:38 -!- eb has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:53:52 -!- eb has joined ##crawl-dev 20:54:22 -!- xFleury has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:57:21 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:06:33 -!- SomeStupidGirl has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 21:10:18 -!- dpeg has quit [Quit: leaving] 21:10:22 -!- Ququman has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:10:58 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 34.0a1/20140808030201]] 21:11:27 -!- Atomikkrab has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:13:37 i had a probably-stupid idea for nemelex 21:14:36 where nemelex's "conjurations" are distinct in that they're strange shapes or otherwise not just the standard bolt 21:15:59 -!- Poncheis has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 21:16:01 -!- rchandra is now known as Poncheis__ 21:16:13 -!- Poncheis_ is now known as Poncheis 21:16:22 -!- Poncheis__ is now known as rchandra 21:16:39 -!- grillatactics has quit [Quit: grillatactics] 21:18:38 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 21:19:31 I thought about having destruction cards just target anything without player input but that would lead to behaviour like leading a unique away from a yak pack before drawing 21:20:40 -!- Blomdor has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:24:10 -!- MgDark has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 31.0/20140716183446]] 21:25:00 -!- raskol has quit [Quit: quit] 21:29:15 -!- SomeStupidGirl has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 21:30:07 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 21:30:20 -!- Bcadren has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:30:21 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 21:32:53 -!- moose has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:34:23 -!- Poncheis has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:34:29 -!- Poncheis_ is now known as Poncheis 21:36:21 -!- Nabalzbhf has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:37:11 -!- Nabalzbhf has joined ##crawl-dev 21:37:18 -!- coni has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:38:03 did the fabled eb nem redesign thread get made? 21:38:26 I don't have access to tavern and I'm slacking because of tournament 21:38:31 maybe it's re-redesign 21:38:49 someone made a re-redesign thread 21:38:49 PleasingFungus: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 21:38:55 https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=13560 21:38:57 and I'd probably call it a rescue, not redesign 21:39:01 -!- OCTOTROG has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:39:10 the endangered nemelex xobeh 21:39:19 yeah 21:39:43 it would be kind of weird if the god given homage in WoW got removed :v 21:39:57 I think it is very unlikely that he will be removed 21:39:58 at this stage 21:40:12 since he is known to have been fun 21:40:24 and in ways that do not compromise crawl's gameplay otherwise 21:40:33 the other thing to watch out for with simplifying nemelex is creating too much overlap with makhleb 21:40:43 with a final power where you toss your infinite deck upwards for a dramatic 27-effect single-turn despair move where you both amuse and piss off nemelex 21:40:56 who says he's fun?! who?!!! who????!!! 21:40:56 doy: wtf 21:40:59 I didn't get a collision 21:41:01 when rebasing formreform 21:41:13 PleasingFungus: clearly you didn't reform it enough 21:41:31 -!- bh has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 21:41:38 i think a lot of the "fun" of old nemelex was just because people like winning 21:41:47 well said sir 21:41:48 and old nemelex was really really good at making you win 21:41:54 old as in 21:42:01 go to a labyrinth to draw cards 21:42:02 ? 21:42:03 yeah, you have to be specific about "old nemelex" 21:42:07 er 21:42:13 i guess like 0.10ish 21:42:17 the one i remember >.> 21:42:23 yeah, that's not particularly old 21:42:29 nemelex used to be much more ridiculous 21:42:30 (: 21:42:30 antedeluvian nemelex? pre-roman-republic nemelex? victorian nemelex? 21:42:36 "convert entire floors of lair to glass and water" nemelex 21:42:38 clearly 21:42:45 before we re-re-reform nemelex 21:42:49 we must construct 21:42:52 a nemelex taxonomy 21:42:59 Someone, somewhere 21:43:09 will publish their PhD thesis on the version of nemelex in dcss 21:43:16 *versions 21:43:43 I hope N7 gets second-authorship 21:45:37 !gamesby dpeg t 21:45:38 dpeg (t) has played 15 games, between 2014-08-30 09:23:28 and 2014-09-02 16:56:44, won 0, high score 511173, total score 542030, total turns 189388, play-time/day 2:46:34, total time 11:06:19. 21:45:43 ....!!! 21:45:44 he lives 21:46:00 -!- eb has quit [Quit: I quit] 21:46:04 -!- eb_ is now known as eb 21:46:05 i think the other reason people liked nemelex though is that breaking the game is fun, even if it doesn't particularly increase your winning chances 21:46:20 -!- eb_mobile has joined ##crawl-dev 21:46:23 yeah, it always felt like "wizmode, the god" to me 21:46:27 yeah 21:46:29 !lm dpeg 21:46:29 8543. [2014-09-02 15:48:10] dpeg the Metallomancer (L25 FoEE of Lugonu) left the Depths on turn 99935. (Depths:1) 21:47:01 !lg * race=tr max=int 21:47:02 97688. Piu the Archmage (L27 TrTm of Ashenzari), escaped with the Orb and 15 runes on 2012-06-07 06:42:36, with 9839289 points after 183232 turns and 1d+6:06:27. 21:47:10 !lg * race=tr max=int x=int 21:47:11 97688. [int=50] Piu the Archmage (L27 TrTm of Ashenzari), escaped with the Orb and 15 runes on 2012-06-07 06:42:36, with 9839289 points after 183232 turns and 1d+6:06:27. 21:47:11 my idea of nemelex is to make it more like "draw four, the god" 21:47:34 heh, not what I'd have guessed, but could be interesting 21:47:34 with less blowing up yourself from drawing four orb cards 21:47:48 -!- hauzer has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:48:38 less......? 21:49:02 also, gozag has a decent chunk of the 'draw four' niche 21:49:07 with potion petition 21:49:12 the people who don't know how to break the game with nemelex complain nemelex kills them 21:49:27 so you'd want to focus on destruction/summoning more with nem (which I think is fine) 21:49:32 destruction/summoning/escape 21:49:32 -!- hauzer has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:49:36 I haven't thought that far yet 21:49:57 I'm not even up to date with 0.15 card changes to be honest 21:50:17 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 21:51:09 ...what if you fused nem and gozag 21:51:20 how 21:51:23 well i mean 21:51:28 well, I did suggest giving gozag old mercs 21:51:31 they both have "gambling" elements 21:51:41 and getting rid of merc card 21:51:57 (which nemelex doesn't gift anyway I think?) 21:52:02 and nemelex hoovering is better done with gold costs 21:52:17 and nem piety is sort of silly in any case, so having no piety system seems fine 21:53:11 potion petition is basically a deck 21:53:54 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Saindo] 21:54:10 it... could work, maybe. 21:54:22 just a thought 21:54:29 sure. 21:55:03 gozaleg ym gobeh 21:56:01 just anything at all we can do 21:56:06 to give ontoclasm more tiles to make 21:56:15 mmm 21:56:39 Introducing the new deck of squares, deck of triangles, and deck of dots 21:57:15 ontoclasm when are you making the corpse rot tile. 21:57:22 -!- Poncheis has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:57:28 * ontoclasm panics 21:57:30 -!- Poncheis_ is now known as Poncheis 21:57:32 !!! 21:57:38 errr 21:57:48 thhhhhhhursday 21:57:53 good choice. 21:57:57 awesome job on the summons in general ontoclasm, by the way 21:58:03 the shadow creatures tile is really good 21:58:08 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 21:58:11 hah, glad you like them 21:58:20 i made a summoner to commemorate them and then it died :C 21:58:27 !lg * t su s=name 21:58:27 rip 21:58:27 600 games for * (t su): 96x gammafunk, 55x Esse, 45x silentsnack, 31x agentgt, 23x Dharmy, 22x TZer0, 16x magicpoints, 14x Delvonshi, 12x talkingcatjazzcat, 11x FiftyNine, 11x InternetKraken, 11x SkaryMonk, 10x starmstar, 8x Xodahs, 8x RobertPalmer, 7x reallim, 7x DualCategory, 7x ahorribleplayer, 6x SomeFlowers, 6x Undo, 6x staplegun, 5x wheals, 5x eastsky, 5x SirDidymus, 5x ElderVIII, 5x theskav... 21:58:31 hahaha 21:58:36 that's innacurate 21:58:45 !hs * t su !won 21:58:46 598. perunasaurus the Eclecticist (L23 OpSu of Kikubaaqudgha), splashed by an acid blob's acid on Slime:6 (slime_pit) on 2014-08-31 13:14:44, with 412439 points after 61245 turns and 4:33:24. 21:58:51 because my summoners have more style and substance 21:59:06 oh huh 21:59:06 so really your % should be higher? 21:59:07 peruna 21:59:11 is a speedrunner 21:59:18 !hs . t su 21:59:18 96. gammafunk the Convoker (L18 HESu of Sif Muna), blasted by a Balrug (fireball) in Pandemonium on 2014-09-01 20:51:58, with 328552 points after 24155 turns and 6:55:14. 21:59:29 !hs * t su !won x=urune 21:59:30 598. [urune=3] perunasaurus the Eclecticist (L23 OpSu of Kikubaaqudgha), splashed by an acid blob's acid on Slime:6 (slime_pit) on 2014-08-31 13:14:44, with 412439 points after 61245 turns and 4:33:24. 21:59:32 weird, he did slime reallyl late 21:59:37 what on earth 21:59:39 I am confused about this scoring mechanic 21:59:42 I had way more runes 21:59:45 !hs gammafunk t su !won x=urune 21:59:45 96. [urune=6] gammafunk the Convoker (L18 HESu of Sif Muna), blasted by a Balrug (fireball) in Pandemonium on 2014-09-01 20:51:58, with 328552 points after 24155 turns and 6:55:14. 21:59:51 oh 21:59:54 I know what it is 21:59:54 based on xp 21:59:55 right 21:59:58 it's the - yes 22:00:10 entering pan at xl 17 doesn't always end well 22:00:10 doesn't normally matter, ofc 22:00:12 runes don't count for hardly any score unless you win 22:00:15 if i remember correctly 22:00:17 -!- Brannock has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:00:33 I still have nos. 2 and 3 positions for rune fetched at lowest xl 22:00:38 yay 22:00:40 -!- Nabalzbhf has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 22:01:05 -!- Nabalzbhf has joined ##crawl-dev 22:01:20 -!- tcjsavannah has quit [Quit: tcjsavannah] 22:01:23 !lg perunasaurus opsu 22:01:23 2. perunasaurus the Eclecticist (L23 OpSu of Kikubaaqudgha), splashed by an acid blob's acid on Slime:6 (slime_pit) on 2014-08-31 13:14:44, with 412439 points after 61245 turns and 4:33:24. 22:01:27 !lg perunasaurus opsu -log 22:01:27 2. perunasaurus, XL23 OpSu, T:61245: http://crawl.develz.org/morgues/0.15/perunasaurus/morgue-perunasaurus-20140831-131444.txt 22:01:40 those rings are 22:01:41 really bad 22:01:43 ah, not a summoner 22:01:48 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 22:01:50 heh 22:01:52 yeah they are 22:04:24 is an emperor scorpion skeleton a bug as in Mantis, or just the skeleton of one 22:04:34 -!- tensorpudding has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:04:51 I don't get it 22:05:00 -!- mamgar has quit [Quit: Exit Stage Left] 22:05:02 is this a pun 22:05:11 are you making a pun, in this channel of all channels 22:05:19 I mean he didn't even use !glasses 22:05:19 I saw one and wondered if it was proper behaviour 22:05:20 I call foul 22:05:31 Z emperor scorpion skeleton 22:05:34 it is in fact in mantis, yes 22:05:44 I reported it once myself! 22:05:49 apologies for my laziness 22:05:59 it's aight 22:06:03 mantis search is middlin 22:06:04 fr just rename them exoskeletons 22:06:15 POWERFUL animate skeleton buffs 22:06:25 A worker ant exoskeleton comes into view. 22:06:28 always so disappointing when you cast ani skel on a bug 22:06:33 and you get not skel/chunks 22:06:54 ya 22:07:10 tbf, if we did this, clearly it wouldn't produce chunks 22:07:19 since: bug 22:07:19 oh boo 22:07:39 emperors make so many tasty chunks though! 22:07:41 -!- giganticus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:08:37 crawl requires players to make hard, meaningful choices. 22:08:49 You finish butchering the yellow wasp corpse. Here: 4 BUGGY chunks. 22:08:58 big wasp 22:09:24 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 22:11:45 Hey can we put nipples on the sphinx tile now. 22:12:32 no. instead, they will be replaced with androsphinxes. 22:12:52 (only if they go the way of the Androsynth) 22:12:53 Probably a good call. Crawl players don't like gender 22:14:05 any particular reason for this nipply question? 22:14:18 Also, I would like to petition the removal to any reference to Chain balls or spires. 22:14:26 Nope, just wiki surfing 22:14:33 Grunt: No. More. Androsynth. Stories! 22:14:44 *of any 22:15:08 chain balls? 22:15:38 -!- Evablue has quit [Client Quit] 22:15:46 Chain balls (of lightning) 22:16:45 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:19:00 -!- SimonZed has quit [] 22:21:32 -!- Poncheis has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:23:57 -!- rorriMnmaD has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:25:28 -!- johnstein_ has joined ##crawl-dev 22:25:55 ^version 22:25:55 trunk: 0.16-a0-323-g9b4185f; 0.14: 0.14.2; 0.13: 0.13.2 22:26:11 anyone reported issues with CBRO? 22:26:36 I can't ping it from my computer or ssh into it or open webtiles 22:26:49 I also can't log into the client section of ramnode 22:27:02 but seems like people are still playing 22:27:06 johnstein_: grunt's bot died and didn't leave a ttyrec -- that could have been another issue though 22:27:31 johnny0: probably just sheer speed :) 22:27:34 johnstein: I'm currently watching gw play on it and it seems fine 22:27:34 I'm still on, johnstein_ 22:27:49 !log gw 22:27:49 403. gw, XL5 MfGl, T:2606: http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/morgue/gw/morgue-gw-20140903-032651.txt 22:28:13 someone in another room thought maybe a router is down between here and there. but seems weird 22:34:17 -!- johnstein_ has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.89-rdmsoft [XULRunner 1.9.0.17/2009122204]] 22:36:48 ok. that was weird 22:36:51 as soon as I disconnected my iphone from the wifi (to test if I could access via my phone via 4G) everything instantly worked on my PC 22:36:56 coincidence? 22:36:59 or was my phone and wifi in some sort of conflict 22:37:04 is that a possible thing? 22:37:52 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 22:37:57 -!- giganticus has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:40:03 -!- Lasty_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:40:21 -!- elliptic has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:43:37 -!- eb_mobile has quit [Quit: I quit] 22:43:58 -!- eb_mobile has joined ##crawl-dev 22:46:47 -!- qoala has joined ##crawl-dev 22:47:15 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 22:51:48 -!- HoneyLoc_ has joined ##crawl-dev 22:51:57 -!- HoneyLocust has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:53:58 -!- BasementCat_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:54:13 hm 22:54:29 I wonder if we should make tome of destruction good 22:55:26 I'm vaguely thinking one-shot? 22:55:33 idk. maybe it's secretly good already 22:56:53 positive nem comment: the Illusion card is pretty cool. seems shortlived, but I've not dipped into legendary decks yet 22:57:46 ya it's a neat effect 23:07:25 PleasingFungus: imo evoke tome for QUAD DAMAGE 23:07:40 ...that would be a Tome of Power, I guess 23:07:42 <_< 23:07:45 >_> 23:07:52 I was thinking a one-use high-power spell of some kind 23:07:55 probably not evo based 23:08:00 we have enough uses for evo as is 23:08:03 scroll of destruction, then? 23:08:04 and it'd be hard to scale 23:08:08 o, I guess 23:09:26 -!- HoneyLoc_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:10:31 -!- HoneyLocust has joined ##crawl-dev 23:10:55 mumra was talking about a chalice of charity when he was in the other day 23:15:09 -!- _aardvark has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:17:06 -!- rorriMnmaD has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:19:37 -!- demiskeleton has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:20:37 -!- Stoats has quit [Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 23:21:36 -!- Stelpa has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:24:32 oh yeah I remember that idea 23:25:27 looking at the old evoker branch 23:25:31 %git evokers 23:25:31 07mumra02 * 0.13-a0-1883-g96da9fa: Restore zap-data.h (Hand of Haunting) 10(1 year, 2 months ago, 1 file, 1+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=96da9fa4bff6 23:25:33 hm 23:25:56 %git aa429e4 23:25:57 07mumra02 * 0.13-a0-1880-gaa429e4: Convert Tome of Destruction to Shard of Destruction 10(1 year, 3 months ago, 26 files, 78+ 113-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=aa429e4ee561 23:26:21 %git 309e1efdb 23:26:21 07mumra02 * 0.13-a0-1881-g309e1ef: Make shard work on number of charges and restructure failure effects 10(1 year, 3 months ago, 1 file, 54+ 38-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=309e1efdbffe 23:26:34 the former seems like an unambiguous improvement; not sold on the latter 23:27:10 rip evoker branch 23:29:14 some of these seem very cool 23:29:16 %git fa2e8944 23:29:16 07mumra02 * 0.13-a0-1878-gfa2e894: A new item, Gong of Golubria 10(1 year, 3 months ago, 25 files, 140+ 4-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=fa2e89446d75 23:31:15 !killratio pan 23:31:17 pan wins 1.408% of battles. 23:32:22 -!- HoneyLocust has quit [] 23:34:10 -!- rorriMnmaD has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:36:54 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 23:37:07 man I really want the hand of haunting 23:37:14 just to carry around a whithered hand 23:37:24 too bad it didn't really have a good effect 23:39:12 -!- SwissStopwatch has quit [] 23:41:13 -!- eb_mobile has quit [Quit: I quit] 23:41:35 -!- eb_mobile has joined ##crawl-dev 23:41:52 -!- Euph0ria has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 23:44:17 -!- Zannick has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:45:49 -!- Zannick has joined ##crawl-dev 23:46:33 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 23:48:29 -!- fridurmus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:49:17 -!- mong has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:52:59 -!- grillatactics has quit [Quit: grillatactics] 23:53:46 -!- tsohg has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:55:21 -!- Kramin has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 23:55:39 -!- KurzedMetal has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:59:21 -!- CatPlusPlus has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds]