00:01:16 -!- Pluie has joined ##crawl-dev 00:03:00 Stable (0.15) branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.15-b1-128-gb969795 00:03:27 DrKe just cleared a FooTV game I was watching just to mess with me. :/ 00:03:46 -!- Isabel has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:03:47 can you get a life please 00:03:56 it was a hugeterm game 00:04:34 watch it in another channel if you want to watch hugeterm 00:05:36 is there a way to add dangerous_item to autopickup_exceptions but then remove e.g. immolation/nois/torment/holy word? 00:06:30 cant you do autopickup_exceptions := Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.16-a0-275-gb43f7ad (34) 00:06:49 to pick up whatever is after the < 00:07:04 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 00:07:17 <|amethyst> unfortunately that doesn't work because > overrides < 00:08:00 what's > for? 00:08:09 <|amethyst> don't pick up 00:08:21 i thought that normal was that 00:08:25 like, no < 00:08:31 that's how it works in my rc file anyways 00:08:32 <|amethyst> ah, yes 00:08:42 <|amethyst> >foo means the same as foo 00:08:57 and that also overrides yes 00:09:06 mm 00:09:32 yeah i don't have that working 00:10:13 <|amethyst> I have suggested, and will suggest again, making a_e use the order instead of the current behaviour 00:10:43 <|amethyst> might break a few rcs, but probably not all that many 00:10:54 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:11:23 the only way to get exactly what i want is to specify every individual item to be excepted 00:12:24 -!- dafdsf has quit [Client Quit] 00:16:03 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 00:20:21 -!- xFleury has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 31.0/20140716183446]] 00:25:41 -!- Cerpin has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:26:27 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Quit: Connection reset by pier.] 00:28:08 putting this in crawl-dev so it's logged FOR THE RECORD 00:28:24 gammafunk |amethyst: pinging you guys since I know you're around 00:28:34 0.15 release name 00:28:34 <|amethyst> yes? 00:28:39 last decent suggestion was "storm over zot" 00:29:00 hrm, that's kind of qaz reference only 00:29:09 but I can't even remember thelast one 00:29:18 I guess you can't shove too much in a name 00:29:22 ya 00:29:36 0.14 was "the shadowy depths of madness" 00:29:42 which was two things but also probably too many things 00:29:58 a reference to either weightless or no item dest would be cool, but going with the new god does make sense 00:30:00 0.13 was "pan-galactic gargoyle blasters" 00:30:01 new god only, I mean 00:30:06 I was vaguely thinking "the winds of destruction" 00:30:07 right, that's the one 00:30:10 that's kinda generic tho 00:30:21 it's both qaz and item destruction destruction 00:30:29 sure, it doubles up 00:30:38 I would like just 00:30:40 End of an Era 00:30:47 Ha! 00:30:48 because it abstractly covers both 00:30:49 ominous 00:31:42 hmm... does crawl support any platforms that don't have ANSI C signal support? 00:32:45 -!- kunwon1 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 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13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=63cfc764923e 01:12:23 -!- kunwon1 has joined ##crawl-dev 01:13:24 -!- Insomniak has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 01:15:18 -!- elliptic has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:16:22 rip 01:18:37 ? 01:19:52 -!- truemono has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:19:54 fleeing 01:20:00 o 01:20:03 rip 01:20:57 fleeeeeeeeeeing 01:21:10 hm 01:21:18 !source effects.cc:_catchup_monster_moves 01:21:18 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/effects.cc;hb=HEAD#l2120 01:21:37 !source effects.cc:2182 01:21:37 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/effects.cc;hb=HEAD#l2182 01:22:56 |amethyst, right now this is just effectively looping N times (n is fixed) and flipping a coin each time to check whether the monster has forgotten about the player. there's gotta be a function in random.cc to do that without a loop, right? it seems like it's simulating a pretty simple distribution... 01:26:32 maybe i'm misunderstanding you but that sounds like just 1/(2^N) 01:26:40 that sounds right 01:26:42 I am tired 01:26:56 I guess you could do one_chance_in(2 << n) 01:27:04 or maybe 1 - (1/(2^N)) depending on which side of the coinflip you care about 01:27:18 !coinflip() 01:27:19 obv 01:27:26 hah 01:27:41 -!- SkaryMonk2 is now known as SkaryMonk 01:28:21 !(TRUE && !coinflip() ? 1 : 0) 01:28:36 nooo 01:29:44 -!- and has quit [Quit: ffs stop pinging me] 01:32:57 actually even better 01:33:16 coinflip() ? !coinflip() : coinflip() 01:33:21 aaaaaa 01:33:38 gotta randomize it bro 01:35:13 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:35:40 -!- Nomi has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 01:39:39 -!- hauzer has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 01:40:12 do all long blades do the "blessed blade" thing 01:40:20 afaik yes 01:40:24 actually, yes 01:40:26 why? 01:40:27 hm 01:40:42 'cause currently bastard swords and claymores have specific tiles for that 01:40:45 but the others do not 01:41:17 probably not too many people blessing falchions 01:41:24 probably not 01:43:08 blessed scimitars are sometimes relevant 01:43:17 or blessed greatswords, maybe 01:43:19 if you dont worship tso and want a holy 1h sword 01:43:24 maybe you get it off an angel 01:43:27 and yeah gsword 01:43:30 ive done that once 01:43:45 well, if you don't worship tso, it's irrelevant 01:43:55 why? 01:43:55 we're talking about Blessed Blades, not just weapons of holy wrath 01:44:02 off angels they're blessed versions 01:44:11 tso is the only source of blessed blades 01:44:18 but its referred to as blessed foo 01:44:24 thats not correct 01:44:51 hm 01:45:02 maybe I'm full of shit, idk 01:45:04 I'm tired 01:45:25 off angels you get like a "blessed (long blade)" 01:45:35 but if you bless it yourself with tso the name becomes Blessed Blade 01:45:42 but its the same weapon type 01:45:45 ya 01:45:48 you are correct 01:46:02 i was confused about it too cause of the name difference 01:48:49 -!- soulfreshner has joined ##crawl-dev 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timeout: 240 seconds] 02:24:44 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.16-a0-276-g63cfc76 (34) 02:24:44 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 02:30:33 -!- Codrus has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:31:39 -!- soulfreshner has joined ##crawl-dev 02:31:40 -!- simmarine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:32:31 -!- Blakmane has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:44:31 !tell |amethyst These winsdk assertions may be catching stuff already -- the crt freaks out over initfile.cc:1955-59 (looks like an off-by-one error) 02:44:31 johnny0: OK, I'll let |amethyst know. 02:46:55 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 03:02:42 %git bb4ff491 03:02:42 07kilobyte02 * 0.11-a0-241-gbb4ff49: Disable an assertion that causes a massive slowdown. 10(2 years, 6 months ago, 1 file, 46+ 37-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=bb4ff491d1c6 03:02:56 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 03:05:22 all of these ASSERT_VALIDITY macro calls don't provide an argument to the macro :/ 03:06:11 -!- 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Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-ng.org/] 05:46:34 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:50:21 -!- Ragdoll has joined ##crawl-dev 06:05:44 quick question, is there a specific rc I need to edit to join a team? 06:07:50 TZer0, the 0.15 rc on any of the 6 supported servers. If you edit more than one to be different teams, the cszo one takes precedence 06:08:11 (the other 5 have a precedence order too...but I don't remember) 06:08:49 -!- edlothiol has joined ##crawl-dev 06:09:02 Cryp71c_: when does it update? 06:14:21 -!- negatendo has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:14:21 -!- negatendo_ is now known as negatendo 06:15:58 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 06:18:20 TZer0, periodically...historically its been pretty quick. 06:18:25 Not sure about presently 06:18:29 -!- Cryp71c_ is now known as Cryp71c 06:20:25 -!- SkaryMonk1 has joined ##crawl-dev 06:21:44 -!- SkaryMonk2 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 06:24:40 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 06:26:53 -!- wmbt has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:28:57 -!- Pepe has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 06:34:37 -!- Xenobreeder_ is now known as Xenobreeder 06:39:20 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 06:43:47 -!- Philonous has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:51:57 -!- Wolfechu has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:03:21 -!- giganticus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:03:50 -!- Sgeo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:08:57 -!- tensorpudding has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 07:25:24 -!- negatendo has quit [Quit: poop] 07:31:10 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 263 seconds] 07:32:38 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 07:36:18 -!- demiskeleton has quit [Quit: Leaving] 07:45:34 -!- Whistling_Beard has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 07:45:50 !tellgammafunk "End of an Era" sounds too much like we're stopping development IMO <_< 07:46:00 !tell gammafunk "End of an Era" sounds too much like we're stopping development IMO <_< 07:46:00 Grunt: OK, I'll let gammafunk know. 07:46:23 * Grunt reads a scroll of enchant tablet keyboard. The keyboard glows green briefly, but repels the enchantment. 07:46:47 -!- puissantveil has quit [Quit: Page closed] 07:47:06 -!- MakMorn has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 07:51:45 -!- Wolfechu has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 07:52:23 lol 07:52:55 !lg * won title=end_of_an_era 07:52:56 30. Surr the End of an Era (L27 DsEE of Qazlal), escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2014-08-24 13:26:14, with 1748521 points after 86226 turns and 6:26:37. 07:53:04 meh, 30 already 07:56:53 -!- Ququman has joined ##crawl-dev 07:57:38 one of them me! 07:57:58 !lg . fo won -2 07:57:59 2/3. perunasaurus the End of an Era (L27 FoAs of Qazlal), escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2014-07-14 17:22:37, with 1765044 points after 61526 turns and 3:22:26. 07:58:43 Era's ending all over the place 07:58:58 *Eras 07:59:09 yeah, I was going to vouch for changing the title but it's already so common I don't care 08:00:01 !title invocations qazlal 08:00:06 invocations qazlal: End of an Era, Demonic Cataclysm, Demonic Catastrophe, Eye of the Storm, Formicid Cataclysm, Orcish Cataclysm, Minotaur Cataclysm, Gargoyle Cataclysm, Demonic Disaster, Centaur Cataclysm, Draconian Cataclysm, Orcish Catastrophe, Formicid Catastrophe, Minotaur Catastrophe, Vine Cataclysm, Centaur Catastrophe, Lightning Rod, Halfling Cataclysm, Ghoulish Cataclysm, Trollish Catacl... 08:01:00 that should be Formic Cataclysm imo 08:01:14 antageddon 08:02:12 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 08:02:51 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:10:12 -!- mamgar has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:14:10 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 08:18:20 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 08:20:43 -!- SkaryMonk2 has joined ##crawl-dev 08:21:54 -!- SkaryMonk1 has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 08:24:19 -!- negatendo has quit [Quit: poop] 08:26:39 -!- TS__ has joined ##crawl-dev 08:36:21 -!- TS__ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:36:51 -!- Tarquinn has joined ##crawl-dev 08:37:42 -!- radinms has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:39:52 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 08:40:55 !lg eb won qazlal s=title 08:41:03 2 games for eb (won qazlal): 2x Slayer 08:41:14 * eb_mobile shrugs 08:42:02 -!- mamgar_ has quit [Quit: Exit Stage Left] 08:44:34 ??tournament 08:44:34 tournament[1/5]: The 0.15 tournament will run from 20:00 UTC Aug 29 to 20:00 UTC Sep 14. Rules: http://dobrazupa.org/tournament/0.15/ 08:46:02 -!- Z_LAMP has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 08:46:18 -!- Tarquinn has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:46:44 -!- syllogism has joined ##crawl-dev 08:50:31 -!- pentax has quit [Quit: ヒーロー見参！] 08:53:39 -!- Philonous has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:57:54 -!- SomeStupidGuy has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 09:05:29 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 09:19:27 -!- AGinsberg has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 09:19:53 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 09:23:35 <|amethyst> johnny0: that initfile.cc thing is fine: according to the standard str[str.size()] should give '\0' 09:23:35 |amethyst: You have 3 messages. Use !messages to read them. 09:24:25 -!- Shobalk has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:25:57 <|amethyst> johnny0: do you have a copy of the error message? 09:26:07 -!- ontoclasm1 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 09:28:01 -!- SkaryMonk2 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 09:30:26 <|amethyst> johnny0: and the ASSERT_VALIDITY macros are getting an argument which consists of no tokens 09:33:01 -!- Philonous has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:36:54 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 09:37:45 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 09:39:46 -!- siepu has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:42:13 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: I'm not sure how setting BEH_FLEEING temporarily does anything, except for disabling the mons_is_retreating() check in the // Dirt simple movement loop 09:42:54 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: maybe I'm missing some function call that uses the beh 09:43:07 I think that is exactly what it does 09:43:10 the inc *= -1 09:43:45 <|amethyst> oh, I see 09:43:53 <|amethyst> mons_is_retreating also checks mons_is_fleeing 09:44:18 !source mons_is_retreating 09:44:19 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/mon-util.cc;hb=HEAD#l3107 09:44:31 oh, I didn't realize retreat was a separate behaviour 09:44:48 waiiit a second 09:45:08 retreating = BEH_RETREATING || fleeing() 09:45:17 <|amethyst> yeah, so it is fine after all 09:45:22 fleeing = BEH_FLEEING || cornered() 09:45:34 but in effects.cc, we're checking retreating() || cornered() 09:45:36 <|amethyst> hmm 09:45:38 isn't that a bit redundant? 09:46:00 <|amethyst> ah 09:47:57 fungus: Did I tell you about the japanese players? 09:48:03 mm? 09:48:12 remember I was trying to find them? 09:48:15 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 09:48:17 they actually got a japanese server! 09:48:28 o 09:48:37 -!- Mandevil has quit [Quit: leaving] 09:48:38 I think gfunk linked to that. is that the one with the snazzy high-score page? 09:48:38 <|amethyst> maybe we should contact the server admin and see if they want to make it official 09:48:50 it's the lazy-life.ddo.jp 09:48:51 i think 09:49:08 and/or share the patches with edlothiol 09:49:29 !send webtiles_changes wheals 09:49:29 Sending wheals to webtiles_changes. 09:51:07 PleasingFungus: did you know there also used to be a BEH_PANIC 09:51:26 * PleasingFungus panics! 09:51:42 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:52:10 -!- eb_mobile has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 09:52:18 !source mon-flags.h 09:52:18 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/mon-flags.h;hb=HEAD 09:52:33 03|amethyst02 07* 0.16-a0-277-g496e22f: Replace a loop with a distribution (PleasingFungus) 10(31 minutes ago, 1 file, 6+ 11-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=496e22f8d012 09:52:33 03|amethyst02 07* 0.16-a0-278-g13fc32a: Use an unwind_var for restoration. 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 3+ 3-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=13fc32a4eca8 09:52:47 o, nice 09:52:48 -!- tsohg has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:52:51 hm 09:53:17 !source bernoulli 09:53:18 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/random.cc;hb=HEAD#l335 09:53:37 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 09:53:50 %git 390038d8c0ec9c6fd67aaaacaad3fc81a7491b20 09:53:50 07DracoOmega02 * 0.14-a0-2001-g390038d: Unbreak monster retreating (which is not fleeing (which is not the retreat command)) 10(7 months ago, 1 file, 4+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=390038d8c0ec 09:53:53 that actually changes the behaviour; there's actually a chance of monsters forgetting about the player before the first period elapses 09:53:59 that's probably a good change 09:54:03 but it's not a trivial refactoring 09:54:04 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: huh? 09:54:12 range / forgetfulness_time 09:54:13 -!- kober has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Iceweasel 24.7.0/20140723063708]] 09:54:54 range is the number of monster turns (player turns * monster speed); forgetfulness_time is the half-life of monster forgetfulness, ranging from 125 turns for plants to 1000 for high-int monsters 09:55:23 <|amethyst> yes? 09:55:26 previously, less than the half-life elapsed, there was no chance of monsters forgetting about the player 09:55:36 since range / forgetfulness_time = 0 09:55:40 <|amethyst> oh, where range/forgetfulness_time == 0 09:55:45 <|amethyst> they're both ints, right 09:55:46 <|amethyst> ? 09:55:49 yep 09:55:55 <|amethyst> so we get bernoulli(0, 0.5) 09:55:58 <|amethyst> which is false 09:56:07 o 09:56:08 <|amethyst> and in the old code, the loop never ran 09:56:08 im dum 09:56:36 hm. int / int passed to a double parameter is still integer rounded, right 09:56:40 so yeah 09:56:58 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 09:56:59 <|amethyst> yeah, that's an integer division because both arguments are integers 09:57:04 hm. maybe I should merge in my own refactorings before you cruelly stomp on them again 09:57:09 <|amethyst> maybe I should add a comment 09:57:57 <|amethyst> // n.b. this is an integer division, so if range < forgetfulness_time nothing happens 09:58:14 <|amethyst> I guess if you're working on it, you can add a comment 09:58:17 * wheals makes a note to merge in his +600 -800 lines of refactoring right away, since PleasingFungus says it's a good idea 09:58:23 -!- Kolbur has joined ##crawl-dev 09:58:24 -!- eb_mobile has joined ##crawl-dev 09:58:31 !nick orbrunners 09:58:32 Mapping orbrunners => pivotal basil puppykicker crate theprovocateur hjklyubn wheals 09:58:34 <|amethyst> wheals: fewer lines of code = fewer bugs 09:58:50 ??orbrunners 09:58:50 orbrunners[1/1]: have gotten runes after picking up the orb and won 09:58:59 no way it's that few 09:59:08 <|amethyst> wheals: that's why I use APL for all my work 09:59:15 since 0.10 it is 09:59:20 |amethyst: and minify everything? 09:59:26 -!- MakMorn has joined ##crawl-dev 09:59:26 only one line of code :) 09:59:27 I'm not sure what version to cut it off at 09:59:47 it definitely isn't that low, plenty of others have gotten orbrun tomb for tourney 09:59:53 your code must be wrong 09:59:54 when were runes changed to not be in your inventory? 10:00:06 i'd suggest cutting it off at the the point where the orb milestone became on pickup and not walkover 10:00:09 no idea when that was 10:00:12 <|amethyst> !command !update-orbrunners 10:00:21 !cmd !update-orbrunners 10:00:21 Command: !update-orbrunners => !nick orbrunners $(!lm * cv>0.10 orb urune=3 lg:urune>3 s=name title:"" join:" " fmt:"${.}") 10:00:28 oh 10:00:31 "urune=3" 10:00:32 <|amethyst> err 10:00:35 <|amethyst> yeah 10:00:36 is clearly wrong 10:00:41 yeah 10:00:53 ${lg:urune>urune}, maybe? 10:00:55 if they got other runes and then orbran tomb 10:01:01 ok 10:01:02 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 10:01:02 <|amethyst> is there a field for whether you have the orb? 10:01:08 no 10:01:15 no, that's why !orbruntombtv is quite frightening 10:01:19 to code i mean 10:01:38 well, orbruntomb also includes not entering tomb until after getting orb 10:01:42 so it is a little more complicated 10:01:56 also abyss is probably easier than tomb 10:02:07 ok, I'll test it in ##crawl-sequell 10:02:08 <|amethyst> !lm * cv>0.10 orb ${lg:urune > urune} 10:02:09 and now some other runes too 10:02:09 48. [2014-08-22 01:35:18] johnnyzero the Anemomancer (L27 OpMo of Ashenzari) found the Orb of Zot! (Zot:5) 10:02:14 <|amethyst> !lm * cv>0.10 orb ${lg:urune > urune} s=name 10:02:15 48 milestones for * (cv>0.10 orb ${lg:urune>urune}): 6x Basil, 3x johnnyzero, 3x pivotal, 3x jeanjacques, 2x rchandra, 2x Medar, Roshnak, zugundertherug, wheals, LexAckson, DEMIGODFIGHTER, partyhat, TheProvocateur, doctordoom, crate, dck, Brightgalrs, Chiseanne, puppykicker, Picchu, Roarke, magicpoints, GIFTDROP, hjklyubn, Plasmo, ToastyP, pubby, Nivim, Megaslime, 78291, Ayutzia, Sar, bloodax, mad... 10:02:21 probably the easiest way to code this is to take the query you wrote and replace 3 with 4, 5, ... , 14 10:02:26 and take the union of the results 10:02:33 (39,45): D:1@(32,50)) map: 42 10:02:37 this is some weird wizmoding 10:02:45 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: which command is that? 10:02:50 which is ugly but easy at least 10:02:54 |amethyst: x 10:03:05 !nick -rm orbrunners 10:03:05 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 10:03:07 Deleted orbrunners => pivotal basil puppykicker crate theprovocateur hjklyubn wheals 10:03:14 0.9 made runes not part of inventory btw. 10:03:20 ok 10:03:28 -!- SomeStupidGuy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:03:30 |amethyst: oh, I guess that works nowadays 10:03:53 <|amethyst> elliptic: was wheals' suggestion 10:04:10 specifically, x on the stairs that have a pair of arrows on them 10:04:19 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: just when you're moving around the cursor? 10:04:23 yes 10:04:46 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: oh, in debug mode 10:04:51 yes 10:04:54 sorry 10:05:01 forgot wizmode didn't imply that 10:05:50 -!- wheals has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 10:07:42 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: trying to figure out where colour tags could have come from 10:07:56 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: oh 10:09:11 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.16-a0-279-g7978b73: Refactor catchup_monster_moves 10(8 hours ago, 1 file, 137+ 93-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=7978b73e6624 10:09:42 oh, I forgot to kill that redundant check 10:11:22 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.16-a0-280-g63401d3: Remove a redundant check 10(73 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=63401d35410b 10:13:15 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 10:16:28 -!- eb_mobile has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:19:29 03|amethyst02 07* 0.16-a0-281-g63e51e1: Fix a bad tag in debug mode x-over-an-upstair. 10(7 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=63e51e1c7aca 10:19:38 -!- eb_mobile has joined ##crawl-dev 10:20:00 heh 10:20:26 <|amethyst> most of the calls to stringize_glyph do that in one way or another 10:20:48 <|amethyst> I didn't verify that it was *all* of them, but if it is, that should just be folded into stringize_glyph 10:21:07 <|amethyst> if not, stringize_glyph should get an optional bool parameter saying whether to do that 10:22:05 -!- its_jenna has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:23:39 -!- _D_ has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 10:27:09 03|amethyst02 07* 0.16-a0-282-ga87e286: Fix a return type. 10(31 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=a87e28675875 10:28:24 -!- TS__ has joined ##crawl-dev 10:29:23 Is there a dev-team for the tourney this year? 10:29:57 gammafunk was talking about setting up a team, a few days ago 10:30:04 idk if he did that or what 10:33:39 gammafunk, poke poke 10:34:24 -!- Morg0th has quit [Quit: leaving] 10:34:34 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 10:35:41 <|amethyst> !lg gammafunk / won 10:35:42 14/1714 games for gammafunk: N=14/1714 (0.82%) 10:35:47 <|amethyst> !lg cryp71c / won 10:35:48 7/3039 games for cryp71c: N=7/3039 (0.23%) 10:35:54 !lg . / won 10:35:55 32/925 games for doy: N=32/925 (3.46%) 10:36:07 <|amethyst> yall are too good for my team 10:36:11 dang 10:36:29 !seen n78291 10:36:29 I last saw N78291 at Wed Jun 4 03:43:47 2014 UTC (11w 6d 11h 52m 42s ago) quitting, saying 'Quit: null'. 10:36:31 <|amethyst> maybe cryp71c isn't :) 10:36:36 :/ 10:36:44 rip 10:36:51 <|amethyst> actually, I guess dpeg was on the team last year 10:36:52 in pepperoni 10:36:56 qw might have to take over captaincy of the rfk team 10:37:01 !lg dpeg / won 10:37:02 19/2033 games for dpeg: N=19/2033 (0.93%) 10:37:06 !nick cryp71c 10:37:06 Mapping cryp71c => harkenn delphic cryp71c cryptic 10:37:07 <|amethyst> so 1% is okay 10:37:13 elliptic: did you diffuse qw's skills a bit yet 10:37:14 <|amethyst> doy is still too good :) 10:37:19 heh 10:37:23 elliptic: just put one qw on every server :P 10:37:30 !won * cv=0.15-a 10:37:31 * (cv=0.15-a) has won 2004 times in 251517 games (0.80%): 75xMiFi 67xGrFi 56xMiBe 35xCeHu 35xHOFi 28xGrEE 27xGrBe 26xMiGl 26xOgHu 25xDsGl 24xGrGl 23xFoFi 23xVSBe 22xDECj 20xDDBe 20xDEFE 20xSpEn 19xDsBe 19xDsFi 19xTrMo 17xOgBe 17xVSMo 17xVSSk 15xDDFi 15xOgAK 14xDsWn 14xGrMo 13xNaFi 12xDDNe 12xDsNe 12xKoBe 12xOgWr 12xVSAs 12xVpEn 11xDsMo 11xFoAK 11xHOGl 11xHaBe 11xHuWn 11xMfSk 11xTrBe 10xDrCj 10xDrT... 10:37:32 All of that DS scumming, coming back to bite me. 10:37:35 hm 10:37:44 <|amethyst> !lg dpeg !boring / won 10:37:45 19/1827 games for dpeg (!boring): N=19/1827 (1.04%) 10:37:46 -!- Kramin has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 10:37:48 !nick devteam 10:37:49 Mapping devteam => kilobyte pointless dpeg enne evktalo keskitalo bookofjude haranp rax rob sorear zaba felirx doy itsmu greensnark MarvinPA evilmike sgrunt neil edlothiol jpeg erisdiscordia galehar elliptic ontoclasm bh frogbotherer napkin samb dracoomega mumra medar hangedman sage wheals gammafunk n78291 reaverb pleasingfungus 78291 10:37:53 !lg devteam / won 10:37:53 <|amethyst> !lg cryp71c !boring / won 10:37:54 1418/57788 games for devteam: N=1418/57788 (2.45%) 10:37:54 7/2689 games for cryp71c (!boring): N=7/2689 (0.26%) 10:38:10 What defines boring? 10:38:11 I probably won't run qw that much this tourney, but I will let qw win a couple of times - it should have a better winrate than last tourney 10:38:13 !lg . !boring recent / won 10:38:13 1/7 games for doy (!boring recent): N=1/7 (14.29%) 10:38:14 !kw boring 10:38:14 Keyword: boring => quitting|leaving 10:38:17 heh 10:38:31 i have not played in a while 10:38:35 apparently 10:38:40 !lg . race=ds 10:38:40 1709. Harkenn the Skirmisher (L1 DsFi), quit the game on D:1 (dpeg_entry_circle_labyrinth_c) on 2013-05-10 13:42:03, with 20 points after 0 turns and 0:00:02. 10:38:43 !lg . race!=ds 10:38:43 1330. Harkenn the Cleaver (L13 HOBe of Trog), demolished by Rupert (a +6 great mace of crushing) on Lair:7 on 2014-08-20 11:17:18, with 29120 points after 20018 turns and 0:42:03. 10:38:46 alternately: 14%! 10:38:48 (: 10:38:49 !lg . race!=ds / won 10:38:49 7/1330 games for Cryp71c (race!=ds): N=7/1330 (0.53%) 10:38:55 eh, still not very good. 10:38:58 Very well, I'm terrible :P 10:39:12 <|amethyst> !lg . !boring / won 10:39:13 2/8581 games for |amethyst (!boring): N=2/8581 (0.02%) 10:39:30 -!- Isabel has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:39:31 !lg |amethyst won s=char 10:39:32 2 games for |amethyst (won): SpSt, HOHe 10:39:41 I haven't won a single time >_> 10:39:47 <|amethyst> !lg . rstart>=20110921 !boring / won 10:39:48 0/7242 games for |amethyst (rstart>=20110921 !boring): N=0/7242 (0.00%) 10:40:05 turning armour/fighting on after 12 axes seems like a good idea 10:40:11 -!- eb_mobile has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:41:10 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 10:41:38 !lg . boring 10:41:38 6. doy the Vandal (L7 HaTm of Elyvilon), got out of the dungeon alive on 2010-08-10 21:48:24, with 476 points after 6603 turns and 0:29:11. 10:42:29 -!- eb_mobile has joined ##crawl-dev 10:42:32 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 34.0a1/20140824030210]] 10:45:47 -!- Miauw has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:46:50 -!- radinms has quit [] 10:46:55 -!- eb_mobile has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 10:48:08 -!- alefury has joined ##crawl-dev 10:48:20 -!- alefury has quit [Client Quit] 10:48:29 !lg . race=sp / won 10:48:29 4/547 games for Cryp71c (race=sp): N=4/547 (0.73%) 10:48:34 go spriggans! 10:49:13 -!- eb_mobile has joined ##crawl-dev 10:50:04 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 10:51:40 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 10:51:48 |amethyst, you have a team too, btw? Any slots? 10:51:52 -!- tensorpudding has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 10:52:59 <|amethyst> I do; still trying to come up with a better name than "Young TrCKs" though 10:53:15 <|amethyst> and all the slots are free except captain :) 10:53:22 <|amethyst> which account do you plan on playing under? 10:54:46 Old Tired FeCKs 10:55:30 <|amethyst> DRINK! 10:57:02 FeCK Drugs GrBe Hugs 10:58:14 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 11:00:05 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 11:00:43 young trcks is an excellent name 11:01:46 -!- Miauw has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:06:39 |amethyst, only harkenn 11:06:57 And there shall be spriggan wins!! 11:07:41 s/Hugs/HuGl/ 11:08:26 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:10:30 -!- wheals_ has joined ##crawl-dev 11:10:30 -!- wheals has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:11:51 -!- xnavy_ is now known as xnavy 11:13:06 -!- Whistling_Beard has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:14:45 -!- wheals_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:16:53 -!- scummos__ has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 11:18:52 -!- RodericNull has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:20:08 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 11:21:52 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:22:42 -!- mopl has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:25:41 -!- Pluie has joined ##crawl-dev 11:26:15 -!- tsohg has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:26:42 -!- eb_mobile has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 11:27:34 -!- TS__ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:27:43 -!- eb_mobile has joined ##crawl-dev 11:28:21 -!- _aardvark has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:31:08 -!- TS__ has joined ##crawl-dev 11:34:26 -!- lrvs has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:37:16 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Bye] 11:47:54 What's the interaction between trunk rcfiles and the tournament scripts that look for clans? 11:49:37 hm. I suppose I can test this myself 11:51:19 PleasingFungus: as the rules page says, only 0.15 rcfiles do anything for tournament 11:51:53 there are people complaining that the tournament scripts aren't picking up their rcfiles (in the sa thread) 11:52:03 -!- eb_mobile has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 11:52:09 do they know to wait 4 hours 11:52:41 the scripts only grab rcfiles from non-CSZO servers every 4 hours 11:53:01 that's been mentioned 11:53:05 alternatively people are really bad at getting the syntax correct 11:53:10 ya 11:53:25 -!- eb_mobile has joined ##crawl-dev 11:54:11 how often is cszo checked? 11:54:21 oh, wait 11:54:34 currently the scripts aren't updating at all (because it is before tourney and I turned off the test tourney :P) 11:54:37 o 11:54:42 so it isn't surprising that people aren't seeing updates 11:54:47 I can turn things on 11:54:52 that might be nice 11:55:15 why is it as infrequent as four hours anyhow 11:55:27 so that we don't hammer the servers 11:55:30 IMO good reason 11:56:03 ya 11:56:53 anyway this is my fault, usually I do turn the update scripts on even after blanking the test tourney 11:57:06 this time I just forgot because I didn't have much time when I went to blank the test tourney 11:57:14 it is updated now 11:57:28 should update every 7-8 minutes for CSZO now, every 4 hours for everywhere else 11:58:08 nice 12:00:12 if people get worried about rcfiles again, please tell them not to panic - they have until Sep 6 :P 12:01:10 true enough 12:01:32 hm 12:01:54 I think I'm going to throw up a 0.16 planning page 12:02:12 ??planning 12:02:13 planning ~ plan[1/1]: https://crawl.develz.org/wiki/doku.php?id=dcss:planning:release_plans 12:02:46 if I can figure out how to add a new page 12:05:53 Stable (0.15) branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.15-b1-128-gb969795 12:09:48 -!- TS__ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:09:49 -!- Redz has joined ##crawl-dev 12:09:59 -!- Redz has left ##crawl-dev 12:10:30 -!- tsohg has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:10:44 <|amethyst> Cryp71c: you're added; just add # TEAMCAPTAIN neil to Harkenn's 0.15 rcfile 12:11:05 -!- tls9540 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:13:57 -!- eb_mobile has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:16:26 -!- eb_mobile has joined ##crawl-dev 12:16:58 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.16-a0-282-ga87e286 (34) 12:19:40 -!- Isabel has joined ##crawl-dev 12:20:27 |amethyst, thanks 12:21:03 Easy way to copy rc files around? 12:21:14 <|amethyst> Cryp71c: webtiles and copy/paste is the easiest 12:21:45 <|amethyst> Cryp71c: (webtiles because ee and virus both kind of suck when you're pasting several pages at a time) 12:22:12 -!- Pluie has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 12:22:34 <|amethyst> !learn edit nfm[1] s/$/, upload/copy rcfile/ 12:22:34 Syntax is: !learn edit TERM[NUM] s/REGEX/REPLACE/opts 12:22:38 <|amethyst> !learn edit nfm[1] s/$/, upload\/copy rcfile/ 12:22:38 nfm[1/2]: server TODO: save-fixing guide, CAO tutorial mode, finish inventory of server-side software, finish and send infrastructure team proposal to CRD, take list of stable and exp. branches from a file, script to deploy new version, inotify for new inprogress dirs too, Chei -> dobrazupa, autobuild glyphs+monster, upload/copy rcfile 12:22:43 Is there a way to copy macros around btw? 12:23:08 <|amethyst> copy-paste with ee or virus :( 12:23:19 Ok 12:23:29 I guess macros can't be set from rc? 12:23:59 <|amethyst> probably can with :crawl.sendkeys("~mblahblah") :( 12:24:21 yeah, i would really really like some way to set rc and macro files outside of ssh 12:24:35 |amethyst, wow, that was SUPER nice. 12:24:43 (I don't normally play webtiles) 12:25:39 Gah...I always hate this part, I have to remember what the "old verion" balance was like....first world trunk problems. 12:25:55 <|amethyst> doy: you can do it with webtiles but AFAIK it needs websockets so might be tricky to script outside a browser 12:26:06 <|amethyst> doy: (not macros, but rcs) 12:26:11 <|amethyst> doy: edlothiol may have suggestions 12:26:29 yeah, i would just like something that i could write a script to POST to 12:26:37 seems like that should be trivial, but 12:28:09 <|amethyst> !source send_rc 12:28:11 Couldn't find send_rc in the Crawl source tree 12:28:17 Out of curiosity, what does the distribution of responsibility end up looking like for the server's load...(i.e. how much load (network and CPU) does webtiles produce compared to SSH'd sessions)? 12:28:30 <|amethyst> !file webserver/static/scripts/client.js:662 12:28:30 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/webserver/static/scripts/client.js;hb=HEAD#l662 12:29:44 <|amethyst> doy: I guess the issue with it just being a POST is that then authentication is trickier 12:29:58 <|amethyst> not much trickier probably 12:30:14 basic auth would be fine (and not much more than trivial) 12:30:16 <|amethyst> but it's certainly convenient when it's coming over a websocket connection that's already authenticated 12:30:31 yeah 12:30:34 <|amethyst> doy: oh, you mean as a secondary thing 12:30:44 <|amethyst> doy: not replacing the existing implementation 12:30:49 yeah 12:30:57 i don't care about webtiles at all 12:30:59 (: 12:31:19 if you want a scriptable interface then making it separate from webtiles (or at least websockets) certainly makes sense 12:31:24 <|amethyst> yeah 12:31:43 <|amethyst> and authentication would be easy since we already have other scripts to do that 12:32:50 <|amethyst> e.g. /rebuild, /saves 12:33:03 -!- TS__ has joined ##crawl-dev 12:33:56 <|amethyst> hopefully nobody decides to use dobrazupa.org/rcfiles/ as dropbox :) 12:34:02 heh 12:34:52 could just limit uploads to like 100k or so 12:36:03 <|amethyst> neil@crawl:~$ find /home/crawl/DGL/dgldir/rcfiles/crawl-git/ -type f -size +100k | wc -l 12:36:06 <|amethyst> 13 12:36:19 that's... something 12:36:35 <|amethyst> gretell.rc is 623 KiB 12:36:48 <|amethyst> HDAbot is 118 12:36:48 ??zonguldrok 12:36:49 sword of zonguldrok[1/2]: +9,+9 bastard sword of {reaping} (kills with the sword reanimate as friendly undead). All corpses not killed by this sword will immediately reanimate as hostile undead that do not provide XP. Hope you have some permafood (or IOOD or disintegrate)! Even wielding this is bad if you worship one of the good gods. 12:36:58 ??zonguldrok[2] 12:36:59 zonguldrok's shrine[1/1]: Boring zombies and skeletons slowly replace all of the gravestones over time: once they're all gone, pass through the new door and a few skeletal warriors to find Zonguldrok's tombstone, which then is replaced with an antique lich when you go for the loot. 12:37:10 my autopickup script is getting out of hand, 300 lines, still only 9K :) 12:38:02 <|amethyst> 1.1G /home/crawl/DGL/dgldir/rcfiles/ 12:38:15 what is gretell.rc for? 12:38:23 bet that would compress pretty well 12:38:39 <|amethyst> Zaba: it contains the entire output of %?? for every monster 12:38:50 <|amethyst> Zaba: so you can query it in-game 12:38:54 oh 12:38:58 smart 12:39:02 <|amethyst> I guess maybe @?? 12:39:14 <|amethyst> since it says "gretell", not "cheibriados" 12:39:20 how many of the rc files are unchanged from the default, anyway? 12:39:54 <|amethyst> for trunk that's a little difficult to say, because you'd have to compare against every default ever 12:40:01 <|amethyst> let me check 0.14 12:40:22 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 12:42:02 well, the default rc has been only comments and blank lines for some time now, hasn't it? 12:42:32 <|amethyst> yeah, but what if they added more comments? :) 12:42:51 could just filter all comments and blank lines and count which ones are empty after that :P 12:42:53 https://crawl.develz.org/wiki/doku.php?id=dcss:planning:0.16_plans I wrote a thing 12:43:08 <|amethyst> 2796/4557 rcs in 0.14 are unchanged from the default 12:43:13 <|amethyst> but 12:43:27 <|amethyst> "changed" could includes anyone in a clan last tournament 12:43:32 <|amethyst> s/des/de/ 12:43:44 <|amethyst> so let me check the non-blank non-comment thing 12:45:49 yay squarelos 12:46:12 boo chunkless 12:46:27 chunkless is not something I am a fan of either, but I am aware that other devs are 12:46:46 in regards to acid tweaks, i think corrosion should also wear off incrementally like stat loss does 12:47:11 but rather faster, ofc 12:47:16 well, yeah 12:47:38 hm. why do you think that? 12:48:27 would make higher amounts of corrosion slightly more meaningful, especially in places like slime 12:48:34 but mostly the current situation just feels weird 12:48:38 !team neil 12:48:45 hrm...thought that worked... 12:48:51 oh, maybe just for the team name. 12:49:02 <|amethyst> !cmd !team 12:49:03 No command !team 12:49:07 <|amethyst> !cmd !clan 12:49:07 No command !clan 12:49:27 <|amethyst> (unsurprising, since Sequell doesn't look at rcs) 12:49:30 *more* meaningful? wouldn't it make it harder to get high levels of corrosion? 12:49:50 |amethyst, I thought I remembered being able to look at a team's composition in years' back. 12:49:58 since you'd be losing corrosion mid-fight... 12:49:58 s/years'/years 12:50:25 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: depends on the speed 12:50:46 i guess i would have to look at the current implementation, but mid-fight you'd typically be gaining corrosion quite a bit faster than losing it 12:50:51 so i don't think that'd be an issue 12:50:57 <|amethyst> I imagine doy is thinking, make some fixed amount wear off in the time that it currently takes the whole thing to wear off 12:51:02 -!- SamB has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:51:02 yeah 12:51:10 -!- SamB__ has joined ##crawl-dev 12:51:30 I don't actually feel strongly about it; just concerned about making decisions based on mechanics "feeling weird" 12:51:30 <|amethyst> while PF is thinking, make it take the same amount of time to completely wear off, but have it do so incrementally rather than all at the end 12:51:51 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 12:51:57 -!- eb_mobile has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:51:58 <|amethyst> (not thinking to do that, but thinking doy meant that) 12:52:29 yeah, the intention is that it would take quite a bit longer for large amounts of corrosion to wear off than it does now 12:52:38 -!- SamB__ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:53:13 -!- SamB__ has joined ##crawl-dev 12:53:21 ah 12:56:49 -!- Bloaxor has joined ##crawl-dev 12:58:00 <|amethyst> Zaba: 4206/4557 in 0.14 are unchanged by your measure 12:58:22 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 12:58:36 <|amethyst> Zaba: well, a modified version that counts blank-but-not-empty lines as changed 12:58:53 <|amethyst> Zaba: because ^[^#] is a lot faster than the alternative :) 12:59:33 <|amethyst> anyway, I must be out 13:00:24 -!- Bloax has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:01:16 also, for charms, i'd like to look into how viable removing durations and casting from maxmp would be 13:01:29 -!- mopl has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:01:34