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Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-ng.org/] 06:30:35 -!- negatendo has quit [Quit: poop] 06:35:33 -!- rockygargoyle has joined ##crawl-dev 06:35:54 -!- Keanan has joined ##crawl-dev 06:35:55 -!- Keanan has quit [Client Quit] 06:35:55 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 06:38:56 -!- Kvaak has joined ##crawl-dev 06:39:09 is it intentional slimifying doesn't count as killing for the purposes of summoned creatures going poof? 06:41:06 -!- gareppa has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:45:12 -!- rockygargoyle has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:46:09 -!- rockygargoyle has joined ##crawl-dev 06:47:14 <|amethyst> Kvaak: I don't know if it was *explicitly* intentional, but since polymorph doesn't dismiss summons it makes sense that slimify would not 06:47:35 <|amethyst> Kvaak: but see 06:47:40 well there's the slight detail polymorphed monsters stay hostile 06:47:44 <|amethyst> %bug 8492 06:47:44 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=8492 06:48:02 mm 06:52:47 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:55:48 -!- excalibur03 is now known as grit 06:57:22 -!- AndroUser2 has joined ##crawl-dev 06:57:38 -!- rockygargoyle has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:58:05 <|amethyst> oh 06:58:36 <|amethyst> !tell Pleasingfungus return make_stringf(...).c_str(); doesn't work 06:58:36 |amethyst: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 07:00:24 -!- Sgeo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:00:37 -!- Crehl has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 07:00:47 -!- xkisamex has quit [Client Quit] 07:01:21 -!- Lasty1 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 07:03:34 03|amethyst02 07* 0.15-a0-2225-g74ad240: Make a function static. 10(4 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=74ad2409005c 07:03:34 03|amethyst02 07* 0.15-a0-2226-g4fb0955: Don't return dangling strings for jewellery names (#8822) 10(37 seconds ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=4fb0955c1cc3 07:03:56 uh 07:04:02 this gnoll just picked up a magic dart wand 07:04:10 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 07:04:13 <|amethyst> Kvaak: was it in a pile with other items? 07:04:14 from the corpse of a gnoll I killed one turn prior 07:04:17 <|amethyst> ah 07:04:22 hold on 07:04:24 &dump 07:04:25 http://crawl.develz.org/morgues/trunk/perunasaurus/perunasaurus.txt 07:04:58 <|amethyst> ah 07:04:58 <|amethyst> 'ere: a gnoll 07:04:59 <|amethyst> A hand axe. 07:05:12 <|amethyst> You couldn't see the wand because the axe was on top 07:05:17 <|amethyst> so it didn't count as seen 07:05:23 oh come on 07:05:33 !lg 07:05:33 159. perunasaurus the Ripper (L14 FeTm of Jiyva), blasted by a blizzard demon (the air) in IceCv (ice_cave_small_demon) on 2014-07-24 11:54:29, with 46123 points after 38232 turns and 1:59:08. 07:05:51 !lg 07:05:52 160. perunasaurus the Scratcher (L3 FeTm), blasted by a gnoll (wand of magic darts) on D:2 on 2014-07-24 12:05:26, with 65 points after 1093 turns and 0:06:48. 07:06:33 I totally didn't see it in the hands of the gnoll I just killed 07:06:49 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.15-a0-2226-g4fb0955 (34) 07:07:01 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 07:07:26 <|amethyst> I suppose there's that 07:07:36 <|amethyst> but I don't think we'd just want to mark items seen in that case 07:12:46 <|amethyst> hm 07:13:04 <|amethyst> actually, looks like we're supposed to do that 07:14:29 <|amethyst> hm 07:14:48 <|amethyst> Did the first gnoll leave your LOS at some point earlier? 07:15:03 <|amethyst> it seems like the wand should have been marked no-pickup 07:15:13 <|amethyst> !source mon-poly.cc:663 07:15:13 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/mon-poly.cc;hb=HEAD#l663 07:15:48 <|amethyst> However, if you first saw that first gnoll without the wand, then it left LOS, picked up the wand, and reentered LOS, that would be missed 07:16:05 -!- CSDCS has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:22:03 03|amethyst02 07* 0.15-a0-2227-g1e78800: Mark monster items as seen when they re-enter LOS. 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 6+ 6-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=1e78800282b4 07:22:08 <|amethyst> Kvaak: thanks 07:23:58 <|amethyst> It's still possible to see a monster pick up an item, if the item spawned in a pile and you never stepped on it 07:24:57 <|amethyst> or if something else dropped the item, but you either never saw the something else with an item, or the item was not in a visible slot (potions, scrolls, or gold) 07:25:33 <|amethyst> (something else dropped the item and a pile formed on top) 07:28:28 -!- iFurril has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 07:29:41 |amethyst: long time no see 07:31:07 -!- demiskeleton has quit [Quit: Leaving] 07:31:37 <|amethyst> hey 07:31:42 <|amethyst> sadly, I have to go now 07:32:00 <|amethyst> helping host a workshop all week 07:32:19 next time then :) cya 07:32:40 <|amethyst> see you 07:33:57 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.15-a0-2227-g1e78800 (34) 07:34:35 -!- CSDCS has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:35:47 Unstable branch on crawl.lantea.net updated to: 0.15-a0-2227-g1e78800 (34) 07:38:47 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 07:38:54 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.15-a0-2227-g1e78800 (34) 07:39:00 <|amethyst> ontoclasm: before I go... thoughts on 07:39:03 <|amethyst> %bug 8821 07:39:03 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=8821 07:40:02 <|amethyst> ontoclasm: would using a narrower font still be readable? 07:40:27 <|amethyst> and I must go now 07:40:27 |amethyst: certainly 07:40:51 -!- rchandra has joined ##crawl-dev 07:41:01 that's definitely something we could fix/change 07:41:52 http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=126363.msg5472143#msg5472143 get your bitmap fonts today 07:42:41 Bloax: yay, df fonts 07:42:53 i made a 12x12 one; 8x8 hurts my eyes 07:43:21 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/63152810/n/df_gothshot2.png mmm 07:43:27 (also i think the one crawl uses for those numbers is already 8px wide) 07:44:21 that looks awesome; the only thing i'd change would be the tilde and double tilde 07:44:43 -!- AndroUser2 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:44:55 or rather, i'd make the double tilde match the single tilde 07:45:00 -!- wat has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:45:00 -!- AndroUser2 has joined ##crawl-dev 07:45:05 yeah 07:45:26 http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=126363.msg5138886#msg5138886 The base font isn't mine as you can see further up the thread. 07:45:44 aha 07:47:25 unfortunately absolutely nobody wants to spoil how the hell you can make a system font out of things 07:47:51 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1000017/DF/yokomeshidorfs2.png 07:48:11 dat water 07:48:45 -!- a9qd0wf has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:48:50 water is hard :C 07:49:03 -!- pentax has quit [Quit: fk u in the coffee...] 07:49:03 you did well though 07:49:29 have you released it anywhere 07:51:22 -!- CSDCS has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:00:25 -!- tswett is now known as warrigal2 08:00:25 no, i just made it for myself a few years ago and then forgot about it 08:00:39 i made dwarves for it, too 08:00:46 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1000017/DF/dorfs5.png 08:01:15 -!- MrPandy has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 08:08:06 -!- CSDCS has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:09:17 ontoclasm: Maybe you should release it then. 08:10:22 -!- Smello has quit [Quit: Bye!] 08:10:56 hm 08:12:01 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 08:12:16 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 08:17:01 -!- scummos__ has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 08:18:58 -!- SkaryMonk has joined ##crawl-dev 08:19:32 -!- SkaryMonk2 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:30:44 -!- AndroUser2 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:30:56 -!- AndroUser2 has joined ##crawl-dev 08:33:04 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:35:20 -!- Rarn has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 08:35:32 -!- AndroUser2 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:43:20 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:50:48 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:51:34 -!- TS__ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 08:54:07 -!- warrigal2 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:54:26 -!- Patashu has quit [Quit: Soundcloud (Famitracker Chiptunes): http://www.soundcloud.com/patashu MSN: Patashu@hotmail.com , AIM: Patashu0 , YIM: patashu2 , Skype: patashu0 .] 08:54:55 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 08:55:10 -!- Blakmane has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:02:28 -!- ais523_ has joined ##crawl-dev 09:06:00 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 09:06:03 -!- CKyle has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:09:18 -!- TS__ has joined ##crawl-dev 09:09:37 -!- ldierk has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:09:53 |amethyst: ah, that'd do it 09:09:53 PleasingFungus: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 09:10:12 -!- happychan has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 09:10:12 -!- Hailley has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:15:27 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.15-a0-2228-g1c0d6e6: Make horrible draining red 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=1c0d6e64a9a9 09:16:07 possibly someone should update 8822 09:17:34 -!- musclewitch has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:17:54 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 09:18:49 -!- Amy has quit [Disconnected by services] 09:22:40 -!- Kramin has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 09:22:40 -!- tsohg has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:25:43 -!- Aryth has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 09:25:47 -!- happychan has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 09:26:50 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 09:28:26 PleasingFungus: that mistake with the message colour was a... 09:28:28 !glasses 09:28:28 ( •_•) ( •_•)>⌐■-■ (⌐■_■) 09:28:32 Horrible Thing 09:29:01 !banish wheals 09:29:02 PleasingFungus miscasts Banishment. PleasingFungus is cast into the Abyss! 09:29:05 .... 09:29:07 rip 09:29:11 dang. 09:29:23 i did not expect that to matter so soon, lol 09:30:00 I was vaguely thinking about buffing ugly things. 09:30:32 just numerically. 09:32:09 PleasingFungus: +30 damage imo 09:32:37 mm 09:32:42 +27 09:33:45 red ugly thing (05u) | Spd: 10 (move: 90%) | HD: 8 | HP: 29-57 | AC/EV: 2/10 | Dam: 1104(fire:8-15) | 10doors | Res: 06magic(32), 05fire, 04napalm | Vul: 11silver | Chunks: 06mutagenic | XP: 196 | Sz: Medium | Int: animal. 09:33:45 %??ugly thing 09:33:56 that damage is pretty anemic 09:34:01 -!- kroki has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:34:01 orc warrior (08o) | Spd: 10 | HD: 4 | HP: 17-40 | AC/EV: 0/13 | Dam: 20 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, fighter | Res: 06magic(16) | XP: 132 | Sz: Medium | Int: normal. 09:34:01 %??orc warrior 09:34:05 purple ugly thing (06u) | Spd: 10 (move: 90%) | HD: 8 | HP: 30-59 | AC/EV: 2/10 | Dam: 17 | 10doors | Res: 06magic(32) | Vul: 11silver | Chunks: 06mutagenic | XP: 197 | Sz: Medium | Int: animal. 09:34:05 %??purple ugly thing 09:34:29 -!- musclewitch has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 09:35:06 -!- ldierk has joined ##crawl-dev 09:35:56 They're usually pretty harmless unless they appear particularly early 09:35:59 yeah 09:36:10 right now they work if they show up in mid-D, but not many do 09:36:47 compared to vaults/depths 09:36:53 man, yeah. 09:37:00 They might as well be kobolds there 09:37:56 purple very ugly thing (13u) | Spd: 10 (move: 90%) | HD: 12 | HP: 45-82 | AC/EV: 4/10 | Dam: 23 | 10doors | Res: 06magic(48) | Vul: 11silver | Chunks: 06mutagenic | XP: 802 | Sz: Large | Int: animal. 09:37:56 %??purple very ugly thing 09:38:04 they could use a buff, yes 09:38:22 but the "particularly early spawns" should also disappear along with it 09:38:38 because a pack of green uglies on d:6 is going to mess you up 09:39:18 yes 09:40:02 But mess you up in an interesting way :D 09:40:30 By the time Lair spawns, ugly things aren't unreasonable 09:40:34 ??spiny frog 09:40:34 spiny frog[1/2]: The far nastier brother of the blink frog, it rightfully earns its title as one of the toughest enemies in the Lair by having hard-hitting poisonous attacks and by being fairly tough itself. Kill or weaken it from afar if possible. 09:40:38 spiny frog (08F) | Spd: 12 (swim: 60%) | HD: 7 | HP: 25-53 | AC/EV: 6/9 | Dam: 2608(poison:14-28) | amphibious, cold-blooded | Res: 06magic(28), 03poison, 12drown | Chunks: 09poison | XP: 409 | Sz: Medium | Int: reptile. 09:40:38 %??spiny frog 09:41:03 if an inescapable pack of nasties is interesting then yes 09:41:16 ?teleport exists 09:43:03 I mean, on d:6 few characters will be able to kill a whole pack of ugly things together, but many will be able to pick off one at a time with some effort, and almost all will be able to get away some number of times. By D:8 most characters can probably deal with the pack somehow. 09:43:48 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 09:43:52 I was planning on shifting them slightly later in D if I buffed them, yes 09:43:57 -!- happychan has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 09:44:08 it's going to need some good luck to kill six of them 1v1 09:44:18 but yeah this discussion is rather pointless 09:44:51 !lg * killer=ugly_thing d:6 09:44:51 No games for * (killer=ugly_thing d:6). 09:45:01 !lg * killer=red_ugly_thing d:6 09:45:01 16. PurpleRed the Chopper (L8 FoFi), mangled by a red ugly thing on D:6 on 2014-07-22 13:18:07, with 879 points after 1450 turns and 0:14:01. 09:45:11 !lg * killer=green_ugly_thing d:6 09:45:12 5. gurdl9716 the Cleaver (L8 DsFi), succumbed to a green ugly thing's poison on D:6 on 2014-07-05 21:17:46, with 1046 points after 4717 turns and 0:07:27. 09:45:21 !lg * killer=white_ugly_thing d:6 09:45:22 32. Tory the Covert (L8 GhMo), slain by a white ugly thing (kmap: kennysheep_big_flooded_room) on D:6 on 2014-06-21 23:30:26, with 924 points after 5446 turns and 0:20:38. 09:45:26 -!- negatendo has quit [Quit: poop] 09:45:29 That's more than I would have guesed. 09:45:51 !lg * killer=~ugly_thing d:6 09:45:55 92. tensugalgo the Cleaver (L9 VSGl of Ashenzari), mangled by a cyan ugly thing on D:6 on 2014-07-22 13:45:23, with 2979 points after 7078 turns and 0:37:14. 09:46:07 Ah, thanks 09:46:28 !lg * killer=~ugly_thing d:6 s=killer 09:46:29 92 games for * (killer=~ugly_thing d:6): 32x a white ugly thing, 16x a cyan ugly thing, 16x a red ugly thing, 16x a brown ugly thing, 5x a green ugly thing, 4x a purple ugly thing, a cyan very ugly thing, a red very ugly thing, a brown very ugly thing 09:46:44 Wow, very ugly things on D:6. 09:46:49 good old AF_COLD 09:46:56 -!- musclewitch has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 09:47:22 white very ugly thing (16u) | Spd: 10 (move: 90%) | HD: 12 | HP: 45-82 | AC/EV: 4/10 | Dam: 1812(cold:12-35) | 10doors | Res: 06magic(48), 02cold++ | Vul: 11silver | Chunks: 06mutagenic | XP: 802 | Sz: Large | Int: animal. 09:47:22 %??white very ugly thing 09:47:48 mmm 13-53 damage 09:48:09 !lg * place=d:6 x=avg(maxhp) 09:48:10 Cannot apply to [maxhp] 09:48:14 ewps 09:48:19 !lg * place=d:6 x=avg(mhp) 09:48:20 118260 games for * (place=d:6): avg(mhp)=52.3 09:48:24 nice 09:48:41 ...how many very ugly things are there on d:6? 09:48:52 very ugly few 09:48:55 heh 09:49:16 I don't htink I've ever seen a very ugly thing above d:12 or so 09:51:07 i imagine they can show up as 8s and 9s there but they're definitely not in depth 09:51:27 but i mean, you can get like ettins on d:6 from an 8 09:52:13 -!- kroki_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:52:32 wow 09:52:39 That's terrifying 09:52:52 !lg * killer=ettin d:8 09:52:53 8. spelunker the Grappler (L10 TrHu of Cheibriados), slain by an ettin (a +1,+0 dire flail) (kmap: minmay_curly_fans) on D:8 on 2014-05-18 09:24:14, with 4711 points after 5727 turns and 0:14:13. 09:53:03 !lg * killer=ettin d:6 09:53:03 ettins are just a very buffed yak 09:53:03 1. talkingcatjazzcat the Hoplite (L9 MDFi of Cheibriados), mangled by an ettin (a +0,+2 great mace of crushing) on D:6 on 2011-05-14 04:04:43, with 2735 points after 11559 turns and 0:51:51. 09:53:14 note all the chei deaths 09:53:18 haha 09:53:18 true 09:54:59 I'm not sure why it's needed to buff ugly things 09:55:23 the red and white ones can do plenty of damage 09:55:42 unknown monster: "Green ugly thing" 09:55:42 %??Green ugly thing 09:56:23 !lg * killer=~ugly_thing s=place 09:56:23 3390 games for * (killer=~ugly_thing): 435x D:13, 390x D:11, 238x D:8, 230x D:10, 224x D:9, 212x D:14, 212x D:12, 176x Abyss, 153x D:15, 151x D:7, 144x Abyss:1, 119x D:1, 92x D:6, 75x D:16, 57x D:2, 50x D:3, 47x D:17, 47x D:4, 45x D:5, 26x D:18, 24x Vaults:1, 22x D:19, 16x Vaults:2, 12x Vaults:3, 12x Snake:3, 12x Vaults:4, 11x D:20, 10x Orc:3, 10x D:21, 8x Snake:1, 7x Lair:1, 7x D:22, 6x Orc:4, 5x... 09:56:54 i wonder what all those d:1 deaths are about 09:57:11 Dragging ugly things up stairs? 09:57:12 !lg * killer=~ugly_thing d:1 09:57:13 119. Cardeni the Skirmisher (L1 DsAK of Lugonu), incinerated by a red very ugly thing on D:1 (wheals_arrival_shading) on 2014-06-09 19:18:29, with 0 points after 63 turns and 0:00:19. 09:57:20 oh 09:57:20 wow 09:57:26 hahaha ak 09:57:34 must be bad read id of tele 09:57:40 !lg * killer=~ugly_thing d:1 s=class 09:57:43 119 games for * (killer=~ugly_thing d:1): 31x Wizard, 27x Chaos Knight, 8x Fighter, 7x Jester, 7x Abyssal Knight, 4x Conjurer, 3x Venom Mage, 3x Fire Elementalist, 3x Summoner, 2x Necromancer, 2x Skald, 2x Stalker, 2x Warper, 2x Monk, 2x Assassin, 2x Gladiator, 2x Hunter, 2x Enchanter, Berserker, Artificer, Ice Elementalist, Earth Elementalist, Healer, Death Knight, Transmuter, Wanderer 09:57:46 -!- happychan has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 09:57:50 always read id on D:2 folks 09:57:50 huh 09:57:55 Haha, those jesters 09:58:08 -!- nooodl has joined ##crawl-dev 09:58:14 pull up a tv of one of these, I need to see how it happens but don't know the proper syntax 09:58:15 31x wizard seems odd to me 09:58:29 !lg * --Wz killer=~ugly_thing d:1 -tv 09:58:31 31. silentsnack, XL4 OpWz, T:6170 requested for FooTV (telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org). 09:58:32 Is there a miscast that can summon ugly things? 09:58:54 lol! 09:58:56 not even a vault 09:58:57 wow 09:58:59 that was just placed 09:59:01 just chilling there 09:59:05 >xl4 09:59:07 >d:1 09:59:11 >turn 6000 09:59:15 ah 09:59:18 oh haha 09:59:21 well, it is silentsnack 09:59:32 !lg * --Wz killer=~ugly_thing x=avg(turn) 09:59:33 241 games for * (--Wz killer=~ugly_thing): avg(turn)=20054.37 09:59:36 uh 09:59:45 oh 09:59:48 !lg * --Wz killer=~ugly_thing d:1 x=avg(turn) 09:59:50 31 games for * (--Wz killer=~ugly_thing d:1): avg(turn)=8779.42 09:59:50 hahaa 09:59:53 well yeah 09:59:54 oh man 09:59:55 mm 09:59:56 this explains things 09:59:58 okay so, that explains that 10:00:09 !lg * killer=~ugly_thing d:1 x=avg(turn) 10:00:11 119 games for * (killer=~ugly_thing d:1): avg(turn)=6526.5 10:00:47 I wonder how many of those are mummies 10:01:14 !lg * mu-- killer=~ugly_thing x=avg(turn) 10:01:14 153 games for * (mu-- killer=~ugly_thing): avg(turn)=16193.59 10:01:25 !lg * mu-- killer=~ugly_thing x=avg(turn) d:1 10:01:27 47 games for * (mu-- killer=~ugly_thing d:1): avg(turn)=9712.02 10:01:32 mm, nearly half 10:03:04 -!- kroki has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:04:08 -!- SkaryMonk has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 10:05:25 !lg * killer=~ugly_thing 10:05:26 3390. Utis the Archer (L12 TeGl of Makhleb), slain by a white ugly thing on D:10 on 2014-07-24 13:22:07, with 16959 points after 20851 turns and 1:05:51. 10:05:28 !lg * killer=yak 10:05:29 10362. Guntaas the Nimble (L11 TeMo of Okawaru), slain by a yak on D:11 on 2014-07-24 02:33:41, with 11107 points after 11840 turns and 0:56:35. 10:05:51 -!- gareppa has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:06:01 !lg * vaults recent s=ikiller 10:06:02 4133 games for * (vaults recent): 380x a vault warden, 347x a stone giant, 275x an ironheart preserver, 237x a titan, 218x a tengu reaver, 186x a yaktaur captain, 159x an ettin, 102x, 96x a frost giant, 92x an ancient lich, 90x a fire giant, 87x a lich, 80x a vault guard, 80x a shadow dragon, 64x Sojobo, 61x a centaur warrior, 59x an orc knight, 56x an ogre mage, 55x a sphinx, 53x Mennas, 49x Jory... 10:06:22 !lg * vaults ikiller=~ugly_thing 10:06:23 68. Tossi the Bludgeoner (L18 DsGl of Cheibriados), slain by a brown very ugly thing on Vaults:1 (vaults_mumra_minichess_inversion) on 2014-06-12 05:31:22, with 225024 points after 44433 turns and 6:00:40. 10:06:26 !lg * vaults ikiller=~ugly_thing recent 10:06:27 11. Tossi the Bludgeoner (L18 DsGl of Cheibriados), slain by a brown very ugly thing on Vaults:1 (vaults_mumra_minichess_inversion) on 2014-06-12 05:31:22, with 225024 points after 44433 turns and 6:00:40. 10:06:29 yep 10:06:32 yep 10:07:01 Man, very ugly things killed more people than ogre mages, sphinxes, or Mennas . .. 10:07:14 what? 10:07:24 !lg Bloax MiMo vaults 10:07:24 2. Bloax the Brawler (L17 MiMo of Cheibriados), blasted by a sphinx (divine providence) (kmap: vaults_standard_mumra_lines) on Vaults:4 on 2014-07-20 16:55:14, with 170455 points after 11199 turns and 1:23:31. 10:07:34 sphinxes rarely kill on their own 10:07:44 !lg Bloax MiMo vaults -log 10:07:44 68 ~ugly things kills - 11 regular ugly things kills means 57 total very ugly things kills 10:07:45 2. Bloax, XL17 MiMo, T:11199: http://crawl.lantea.net/crawl/morgue/Bloax/morgue-Bloax-20140720-165514.txt 10:08:04 Lasty: uh 10:08:09 the 68 number was including non-recent games 10:08:11 I suppose ogre mages are the same: kills usually come from paralysis or abyss 10:08:13 they both include very ugly kills 10:08:21 oops 10:08:23 sorry 10:08:41 there are 11 total (very) ugly thing kills in vaults, recently, out of 4k recent vault deaths 10:08:49 Ok, that sounds more reasoanble 10:09:01 * Lasty should learn to read. 10:09:09 deep elf priests have killed more people in vaults than ugly things have 10:09:14 hahaha 10:09:14 Do ogre mages kill that many people? 10:09:18 even indirectly 10:09:24 more than Mennas does 10:09:26 I think i've been banished one time from one 10:09:32 and that's all 10:09:33 they do have crystal spear 10:09:34 sometimes 10:09:36 ogre mage (06O) | Spd: 10 | HD: 10 | HP: 38-72 | AC/EV: 1/7 | Dam: 12 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, spellcaster, see invisible | Res: 06magic(80) | XP: 920 | Sp: haste other, crystal spear (3d28), blink, b.fire (3d18), b.cold (3d18), 04esc:minor healing (2d5) / haste other, mystic blast (3d15), invisibility, confuse, slow, 04esc:teleport self / haste other, paralyse, haste, b.lightning (3d17), confuse, 04esc:teleport self / haste other, sting (d10), blink, b.lightning (3d17), banishment, 04esc:minor healing (2d5) / haste other, throw flame (3d8), invisibility, teleport other, fireball (3d19) | Sz: Large | Int: high. 10:09:36 %??ogre mage 10:09:40 yeah, but their accuracy is poop 10:09:48 They have two MR-checked attacks that can potentially kill you 10:09:55 that wouldn't show up as a kill 10:10:10 yeah, neither one would 10:10:14 hmm, I do play trog often so that would explain why it is rarely an issue 10:10:41 They're a weird monster since they're usually harmless to a mid-level character, but every now and then they do something that causes you to die 10:11:13 i've died to ogre magi a couple times 10:11:30 once to paralysis and once to a fireball back when monster fireballs were hilariously powerful 10:11:41 they still are, really 10:11:47 mm 10:11:54 they are still 'powyrful' 10:12:05 if you lack rf 10:12:09 most good players consider ogre magi super dangerous 10:12:22 yes 10:12:30 As a new player, I won several characters before realizing I needed to take ogre mages seriously when one paralyzed me on V:1 and I died before I got unparalyzed. 10:12:50 -!- happychan has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:12:51 That's why you worship trog so you can laugh at MR checks in general 10:12:54 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 10:12:56 eb_: they are, but they only rarely realize their potential 10:13:21 Well, and because bros and unlimited berserk and generally just making life really easy. :D 10:13:31 wait, when was monster fireball ever nerfed? I only remember it being buffed in 0.6 10:13:39 when player resistances were nerfed 10:14:23 it probably wasn't, it just feels weaker now because i play better 10:14:40 ha 10:14:42 well, in lots of my Be games I rarely even use berserk or bros, but I use TH like 200+ times 10:14:44 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 10:14:46 yeah, monster fireball still does more damage than the bolt spells 10:18:07 -!- musclewitch has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 10:23:15 -!- Morg0th has quit [Quit: leaving] 10:26:45 And since it can't be dodged, it ends up being quite a lot scarier overall 10:27:10 since it can't be dodged it ends up being purely an equipment check 10:27:46 -!- gareppa has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:28:24 -!- gareppa has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:30:23 -!- happychan has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:31:17 !lg . ckiller=ogre_mage 10:31:18 1. SGrunt the Eclecticist (L21 OpVM of Vehumet), blasted by an ogre mage (crystal spear) (kmap: onia_ninara_cookie) on Depths:1 on 2013-12-12 01:13:52, with 311397 points after 67453 turns and 4:42:25. 10:31:28 ^ tragic 10:31:41 !lg . ckiller=ancient_lich 10:31:42 No games for Bloax (ckiller=ancient_lich). 10:31:47 !lg . ckiller=lich 10:31:48 No games for Bloax (ckiller=lich). 10:31:59 interesting things you're saiyan sequell 10:32:26 oh right it was a "shadow wraith" that killed me http://crawl.lantea.net/crawl/morgue/Bloax/morgue-Bloax-20140415-061613.txt yes 10:37:28 -!- musclewitch has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 10:38:30 -!- happychan has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 10:42:58 -!- kroki_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:46:16 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.15-a0-2229-g4662642: Make Death's Door check spellpower instead of Necromancy 10(24 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=4662642c6b3f 10:46:16 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.15-a0-2230-g50cd98d: Make Passwall check spellpower instead of Earth 10(14 minutes ago, 1 file, 3+ 3-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=50cd98db082d 10:46:16 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.15-a0-2231-g230892d: Make Shatter use spellpower instead of Earth 10(9 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=230892da5a01 10:46:16 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.15-a0-2232-g756d4b8: Make Sticks to Snakes use spellpower instead of Transmutations 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=756d4b8fc926 10:47:21 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 34.0a1/20140722030201]] 10:49:40 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 10:50:04 -!- negatendo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:52:29 -!- Crehl has quit [Quit: Killed by a kitten.] 10:53:01 %git 4fb0955c1cc 10:53:01 07|amethyst02 * 0.15-a0-2226-g4fb0955: Don't return dangling strings for jewellery names (#8822) 10(4 hours ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=4fb0955c1cc3 10:53:32 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 10:55:11 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 10:57:50 -!- musclewitch has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:00:04 -!- Aryth1 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 11:01:56 -!- happychan has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:02:27 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 11:02:27 -!- Bloax has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:02:37 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 11:04:02 -!- musclewitch has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:04:46 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 11:04:57 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 11:06:16 -!- Zephryn has quit [Quit: Jackdaws love my big sphinx of quartz. 123456890] 11:08:14 hm, maybe Donald should not say "Did you miss the Ecumenical Temple?" if you're a demigod 11:08:21 though maybe it's actually funnier then 11:10:50 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 11:16:05 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:17:37 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 11:20:17 -!- mopl has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:21:46 !send PleasingFungus spellpower 11:21:47 Sending spellpower to PleasingFungus. 11:23:17 -!- happychan has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 11:26:33 -!- musclewitch has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:30:18 !send Grunt UNLIMITED POWER 11:30:18 Sending UNLIMITED POWER to Grunt. 11:30:33 * Grunt gestures. The debugging ray hits PleasingFungus!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 11:31:09 -!- FlowRiser has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:32:07 technically this is a slight nerf to death's door at the usual spellpower you'd get it (you'll end up at ~8 hp instead of ~10), and a slight buff at extraordinarily high spellpower (max is now 20 hp without kiku, up from 13). if that's a real problem, someone could add a min(15, ) and tweak the power scaling up slightly 11:32:14 what 11:32:15 rip ddoor 11:32:21 <_< 11:32:24 >_> 11:32:46 also, re ozocubu's and stoneskin 11:32:57 re ozocubu's and stoneskin 11:32:57 -!- FlowRiser has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:32:58 yes 11:32:59 that is all 11:33:03 rerere 11:33:04 hush 11:33:20 -!- Aryth has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:33:40 -!- happychan has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:33:52 if we really want them to require ice & earth respectively, it might be better to not use charms for spellpower calcs (for those spells) 11:34:02 ??Ozocubus Armour 11:34:03 Ozocubus Armour ~ ozocubu's armour[1/1]: Extra 4 + ice/3 (5 + ice*7/12 if in ice form) AC lasting for 18 + 2d(power) turns. Incompatible with Stoneskin and armour with EVP >= 2 (or ER >= 5), but DOES work on the undead and bodily transformed. Getting hit by anything fiery will lower the duration remaining. 11:34:04 -!- Vorhito has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:34:08 ??Stoneskin 11:34:08 stoneskin[1/1]: 8+2d(power) (more) turns of +2 + earth/5 AC. Incompatible with Ozos, being undead, and all transforms except Statue Form and Blade Hands. Sorry, Crawl doesn't want you to have much AC. However, unlike Ozocubu's Armour, Stoneskin will work with heavy armour. In {statue form}, stoneskin also adds 1 + earth/4 AC. 11:34:12 hm. actually 11:34:14 ??cshield 11:34:14 cshield ~ shield[1/6]: Wearing a shield gives you a chance to block all damage from some attacks, including arrows, melee, and some spells. Shields prevent off-hand attacks, and until you have enough skill they also slow your melee attacks and make it harder to cast spells. They always slow down UC and bows/xbows. Can't be used with (x)bows in 0.15. 11:34:17 ??condensation shield 11:34:18 condensation shield[1/2]: Creates a shield that doesn't require a hand to wield (can be used with two-handed weapons, but not with a real shield), with duration based on power and strength based on ice magic. Melts when hit by fire. Stacks with the {helm card} and TSO's divine shield. SH granted is 8 + 3/5 * ice magic skill, 4 + 3/10 * ice in 0.15+ 11:34:27 ugh, need to change that one too. that's simpler, though 11:34:31 since it's single-school 11:35:49 anyway, if we're going to have these one-and-a-half school spells, we should indicate it very explicitly - maybe grey out the secondary school's name? 11:36:23 I am not sure we need to have one-and-a-half school spells but I think |amethyst had an opinion on the subject earlier 11:36:34 well truth be told 11:36:54 -!- musclewitch has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 11:37:01 it wouldn't make any difference if stoneskin/ozo's were earth/ice respectively instead of earth/transmutations|ice/charms 11:37:10 because they are such low level spells 11:37:29 nerf to sludge elves 11:37:35 *heavy-armour sludge elves 11:37:42 !apt tm 11:37:42 Could not understand "tm" 11:37:48 !apt transmutations 11:37:48 Tmut: Sp: 3!, Mf: 3!, Vp: 1, HE: 1, DE: 1, Fo: 1, Fe: 1, Op: 0, Dr: 0, Hu: 0, VS: 0, Na: 0, Ds: -1, Ko: -1, Gh: -1, Dg: -1, DD: -1, Ce: -1, Mu: -2, Mi: -2, Gr: -2, Te: -2, HO: -3, Tr: -3, Og: -3, Ha: -4* 11:38:06 !apt sp 11:38:07 Sp: Fighting: -2*, Short: 1, Long: -2, Axes: -2, Maces: -3*, Polearms: -3*, Staves: -3*, Slings: 2, Bows: 2, Xbows: 0, Throw: 1, Armour: -3*, Dodge: 4!, Stealth: 5!, Shields: -3*, UC: -2*, Splcast: 2, Conj: -3*, Hexes: 2, Charms: 4!, Summ: -2, Nec: -1, Tloc: 4!, Tmut: 3!, Fire: -2, Ice: -2, Air: -1, Earth: -1, Poison: 0, Inv: 0, Evo: 4!, Exp: -1, HP: -3, MP: 3! 11:38:13 and to... heavy-armour mf/sp, I guess 11:38:27 sp can't wear armor, silly 11:38:45 and by the time you get heavy dragon armor you'll be able to cast the things you were planning to cast :v 11:39:21 this is not a serious criticism 11:39:36 -!- happychan has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 11:39:41 The criticism hits PleasingFungus!!! 11:40:04 if we really don't want charms users to be able to use ozo's without ice investment - for whatever reason - then we could make it a pure ice spell, yes 11:40:05 The sar-chasm hits the crowd like a choko!!! 11:40:13 * Grunt pushes Bloax into the sarchasm. 11:40:16 and similarly for stoneskin/tmut, though it seems even sillier there 11:40:30 * Bloax @@@AAAaaa... 11:41:35 there are obviously problems with both spells, but they're general Badly Designed Charms problems, and pretty much orthogonal to the skill/spellpower question 11:45:29 -!- FlowRiser has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:47:01 -!- Frank2368 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:50:23 -!- happychan has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:50:23 -!- Ququman has joined ##crawl-dev 11:54:43 -!- kroki has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:55:50 -!- musclewitch has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:56:18 -!- rockygargoyle has joined ##crawl-dev 11:57:07 -!- happychan has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 11:57:27 -!- Elephant_Parade has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:03:26 Bloax: ripe choko :( 12:04:34 -!- musclewitch has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:06:48 -!- tollyzzz has joined ##crawl-dev 12:07:39 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.15-a0-2232-g756d4b8 (34) 12:07:53 -!- Nomi has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:08:44 -!- Nomi_ is now known as Nomi 12:08:57 -!- happychan has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:10:22 -!- musclewitch has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:11:16 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 12:12:53 -!- Bloaxor has joined ##crawl-dev 12:13:50 -!- happychan has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:14:49 -!- Nomi has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 12:15:13 -!- Piginabag has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:15:26 -!- Utis has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 12:17:22 -!- Bloax has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 12:19:08 -!- Kintak has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:21:03 -!- MiBe has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:22:08 -!- Beast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:28:03 -!- musclewitch has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:28:07 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 12:28:14 -!- anubiann00b has joined ##crawl-dev 12:28:57 Hey, I'm interested in helping with development. What do I need to do? 12:30:58 Also, do you rebase or merge in commits? 12:31:02 -!- happychan has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:32:35 I think they usually merge 12:32:45 anubiann00b: I'm not a developer, but I believe the answers are "post patches to the bug tracker and you'll get commit access before long" and "we normally rebase unless there's some reason to merge" 12:34:33 -!- PepeRC2 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:34:37 So bugfix stuff before getting granted the commit hammer? 12:35:41 doesn't need to be fixes, new features would work too (although you need to get consensus that they're actually a good idea, at least from some subset of people) 12:37:10 Should I make a pull request type thing or ask for permission from someone to implement a feature that has been decided upon? 12:38:03 I've mostly seen it done as what is effectively pull requests, the only real reason to ask for permission would be to prevent two people working on the same thing 12:38:29 Is there an official checklist/signup of things to implement? 12:39:39 there's Mantis and the dev wiki; both are official but neither is definitive 12:39:40 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 32.0a1/20140529030207]] 12:39:46 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:39:53 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 12:39:55 in that there's room for disagreements, and something that "looks" settled often actually isn't 12:41:52 Ok, I'll take a look at Mantis. 12:42:34 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 12:42:46 -!- Kintak has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:48:25 -!- happychan has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 12:49:09 -!- kroki_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:51:46 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:54:08 -!- happychan has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:55:36 -!- rockygargoyle has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:56:29 -!- anubiann00b_ has quit [Client Quit] 13:01:19 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 13:04:37 -!- happychan has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 13:06:15 -!- surprisetrex has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:07:22 -!- musclewitch has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:08:15 anubiann00b: ais523_ is pretty much correct 13:08:52 bugfixes are generally accepted without any sort of fanfare; if you want to add a feature it might be a good idea to hang around in here and ask some devs what they think 13:09:12 (i'm one of the devs) 13:09:28 (technically) 13:09:34 yeah 13:09:45 i'm the kind of dev that doesn't actually develop things 13:10:30 you have a + sign by your name, that counts, doesn't it? 13:10:43 meanwhile, I have two lines of code in Crawl, which is not really enough to count as a dev 13:12:42 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 13:13:50 -!- causative has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:15:00 around like me - I have a commit that was reverted for drama in minutes and some speech for Donald :) 13:15:32 -!- warrigal2 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:17:21 oh, adding speech sounds fun 13:17:28 -!- tollyzzz is now known as tolly 13:17:33 -!- Berder has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:17:44 what was the commit 13:18:21 %git 9c081e9 13:18:21 07rchandra02 {|amethyst} * 0.14-a0-1139-g9c081e9: Orient linesprint horizontally only. 10(8 months ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=9c081e998921 13:18:38 I remember that 13:18:42 then it was 'remove linesprint' 13:19:40 oh, linesprint was removed? I never got to find out what it was 13:19:57 no it was restored 13:20:02 yeah, that was the drama 13:20:50 %git :/remove linesprint 13:20:51 Could not find commit :/remove linesprint (git returned 128) 13:21:17 %git ccf31d4db4ab08536c2fa1aaaac39570039dca73 13:21:17 07|amethyst02 * 0.14-a0-1140-gccf31d4: Remove linesprint (st_) 10(8 months ago, 1 file, 0+ 1090-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=ccf31d4db4ab 13:21:27 %git 873d284 13:21:28 07MarvinPA02 * 0.14-a0-1142-g873d284: Revert "Remove linesprint (st_)" 10(8 months ago, 1 file, 1090+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=873d284b82a2 13:21:42 ah, dang case-sensitive matches 13:22:00 -!- alefury has joined ##crawl-dev 13:24:41 !log firemonkey grwn d:5 13:24:41 2. firemonkey, XL7 GrWn, T:4128: http://crawl.develz.org/morgues/trunk/firemonkey/morgue-firemonkey-20140724-174600.txt 13:24:45 er, sorry 13:24:51 -!- Kvaak has left ##crawl-dev 13:27:19 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 13:27:38 -!- jjpalen has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:28:52 "re stoneskin and ozo's armour" 13:28:58 regarding what with them 13:29:36 -!- Dingo has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:32:33 scroll down like half a dozen lines 13:33:22 fire dragon (03D) | Spd: 10 | HD: 12 | HP: 72-106 | AC/EV: 10/8 | Dam: 20, 13, 1307(trample) | fly, !sil | Res: 06magic(64), 05fire++, 03poison, 12drown | Vul: 12cold | XP: 1072 | Sp: b.flame (3d24) | Sz: Giant | Int: animal. 13:33:22 %??fire dragon 13:34:17 reasons not to cast ozo's or stoneskin: 13:34:37 -!- njorth has quit [Client Quit] 13:34:58 -!- eki has quit [Quit: leaving] 13:42:47 -!- hurdos has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:42:54 wandering mushroom (07f) | Spd: 10 | HD: 8 | HP: 30-57 | AC/EV: 5/0 | Dam: 2013(confuse) | 03plant | Res: 06magic(32), 03poison, 12drown, 13neg+++, 13torm | XP: 313 | Sz: tiny | Int: plant. 13:42:54 %??wandering mushroom 13:44:54 -!- njorth has quit [Client Quit] 13:45:17 minotaur (04H) | Spd: 10 | HD: 13 | HP: 55-93 | AC/EV: 5/7 04(headbutt) | Dam: 35, 20 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, fighter | Res: 06magic(52) | XP: 1089 | Sz: Medium | Int: normal. 13:45:17 %??minotaur 13:48:01 -!- hurdos has quit [Client Quit] 13:49:00 -!- Tuxedo[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:52:28 -!- hurdos has quit [Client Quit] 13:52:46 ??staff of air 13:52:46 staff damage[1/3]: Enhancer staves (fire, cold, air, earth, death) have (2*evoc + magic skill)/30 chance of getting random2(1.25*(magic skill + evoc/2)) extra damage that ignores AC (except earth), but checks the appropriate resistance. Prior to 0.15, air also needed to pass a (damage dealt + air + 1)/20 chance. 13:53:03 ??staff of air[2 13:53:03 staff of poison[1/1]: Grants rPois; boosts poison magic; in melee, if you pass a (Evoc*2+Poison Magic)/30 check, it inflicts poison on a coinflip or (poison skill / 8) times, and bypasses poison resistance (poison skill / 16) times (but only against living or plant creatures). 13:53:06 ??pm 13:53:07 private messages[1/1]: If you need to read all of a topic, use these ('/msg Sequell ??foo', or '!readall foo') instead, so you don't choke up discussion on the whole channel. 13:53:10 Naruni: ^ 13:53:12 -!- gareppa has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:55:30 -!- gareppa has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:55:46 -!- Armakuni has quit [Quit: leaving] 13:58:34 -!- tsohg has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:01:13 re the mimic discussion here eariler, we just had this from #nethack: There was a mimic mimicking the upstair standing on the upstar. 14:04:18 IIRC there's code that actually chooses the mimicked form based on the dungeon feature the mimic is on 14:05:39 what's up with 14:05:49 fuck phonetyping 14:06:06 what's with ozo's/stoneskin 14:06:20 -!- FlowRiser has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:06:21