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Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-ng.org/] 01:45:11 That was even a good bugfix, the problem reported was with documentation and you did a good job of documenting the lack of Android developers 01:45:33 -!- Nomi has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:46:55 -!- hyperbolic is now known as elliptic 01:47:32 -!- gammafunk has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:50:36 -!- KurzedMetal1 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:50:36 -!- Pepe has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:55:03 -!- Quashie has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:59:44 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 02:00:35 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 02:00:37 -!- name1 has joined ##crawl-dev 02:00:42 -!- name1 is now known as Basil 02:01:05 -!- Basil is now known as Guest8175 02:01:27 gammafunk: no!!!!!!!! but I am too drunk to argue this right now 02:01:41 also some guy on gdd was saying there were too many consumables floating around 02:01:54 he's probably right 02:02:00 like, things that aren't hw and cure 02:02:50 -!- Kramin has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 02:09:36 replace agility/brilliance/might with potion of chei 02:11:33 <|amethyst> if the problem is too many consumables, how does shuffling around potion weights help? 02:11:49 just shuffle them all into potions of poison 02:11:50 <|amethyst> more useless potions I guess 02:11:50 obv 02:12:05 j - 27 potions of poison (d:3) 02:14:51 -!- Keanan has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 02:16:01 -!- Guest8175 is now known as Basil 02:18:26 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.15-a0-2045-gcdaee41 (34) 02:21:55 PleasingFungus: you are wrong and will be wrong forever. What are we arguing about? 02:22:00 butts 02:22:02 dang 02:22:29 I've lost so many arguments about that I won't even start 02:23:02 what is your opinion on the great dilemma of our times 02:23:08 renaming greatslings to staffslings 02:23:21 haha, to what now? 02:23:36 staff-slings 02:23:38 -!- syndicus_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:23:43 slings, attached to a staff 02:23:48 for extra leverage? 02:24:21 *only* if we give them reach 02:24:34 a reaching launcher??? 02:25:07 serious post: I once spent a non-trivial amoung of time thinking of how I should make jump-attack work with reaching weapons 02:25:18 and then I noticed I was wearing a straight-jacket 02:26:01 also jump-attack with launchers, which I guess is even more insane 02:26:23 I think when I mentioned that "of course jump attack shouldn't work with launchers" at some point in a tiles chat 02:26:33 why doesn't crawl have a hybrid melee/launcher weapon 02:26:34 someone said with 0 irony: that's silly, of course they should 02:26:35 why??? 02:27:01 once we figure out which brands it should have 02:27:13 <|amethyst> we had hybrid melee/thrown weapons 02:27:21 true 02:27:34 they were stupid and bad 02:27:38 throwing clubs, I really miss that 02:28:13 the satisfaction of killing that smug hobgoblin with a thrown club 02:30:43 so... hm. 02:30:47 how do people here feel about commits 02:30:55 -!- NilsBloodaxe has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:32:52 they are pretty dangerous and unsafe in general? 02:32:56 just my gut feeling 02:33:09 (ignore the following) 02:33:22 -!- elliptic has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:34:00 03gammafunk02 07* 0.15-a0-2046-g3971bd2: Indicate the summarized levels in objstat output 10(37 minutes ago, 1 file, 11+ 4-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=3971bd2025b0 02:34:05 hahaha 02:34:12 I ran git pull (no new changes) 02:34:17 git push (new changes, your push rejected) 02:34:21 gammafunk!!!!! 02:34:43 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.15-a0-2047-gbb0a4a2: Ruin some perfectly good vaults 10(26 hours ago, 1 file, 6+ 6-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=bb0a4a280447 02:34:43 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.15-a0-2048-g236bd0c: Remove code for wielding corpses 10(12 hours ago, 1 file, 0+ 4-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=236bd0c7ac01 02:34:43 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.15-a0-2049-g533b47c: Remove code for monster formicids wielding giant clubs 10(11 hours ago, 1 file, 2+ 8-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=533b47cd6b7f 02:34:43 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.15-a0-2050-gfed8404: Refactor item handedness code 10(9 hours ago, 5 files, 78+ 113-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=fed8404d2990 02:34:43 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.15-a0-2051-g1c345a4: Refactor duplicate code from can_wield() 10(10 hours ago, 6 files, 62+ 56-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=1c345a4aaf0f 02:34:43 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.15-a0-2052-g37bb87b: Remove code for formicids wielding weapons 2-handed 10(9 hours ago, 1 file, 1+ 4-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=37bb87b74313 02:34:43 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.15-a0-2053-g8dcdaa9: Describe launchers' handedness 10(9 hours ago, 1 file, 1+ 3-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=8dcdaa989353 02:34:43 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.15-a0-2054-gef5102b: Make greatslings 2-handed for spriggans 10(9 hours ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=ef5102b7e89d 02:34:43 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.15-a0-2055-g3663d86: Don't check to see if weapons use SK_SLINGS in melee 10(5 hours ago, 2 files, 4+ 3-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=3663d864c83a 02:34:43 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.15-a0-2056-g9b6b733: Refactor weapon_skill() 10(4 hours ago, 26 files, 118+ 112-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=9b6b733bccd0 02:34:43 ... and 3 more commits 02:35:46 -!- simmarine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:35:50 !learn add hand_crossbow It's a crossbow that you can hold in your hand. 11 base damage, 15/10 base/mindelay. Starting weapon for crossbow hunters. 02:35:50 hand crossbow[2/2]: It's a crossbow that you can hold in your hand. 11 base damage, 15/10 base/mindelay. Starting weapon for crossbow hunters. 02:35:54 o 02:35:58 ??hand_crossbow 02:35:58 hand crossbow[1/2]: In ancient times, a weapon that could fire darts. 02:36:08 !learn m hand_crossbow[1 hand_crossbow[2 02:36:08 I don't know about !learn m. 02:36:10 hm 02:36:17 !help !learn 02:36:17 !learn: Learndb. Syntax: !learn query item; !learn (add|del) item text; !learn edit item[num] s/replace-this/with-this/; !learn swap a b; !learn mv a b 02:36:28 !learn swap hand_crossbow[1 hand_crossbow[2 02:36:29 Swapped hand_crossbow[1] with hand_crossbow[2]. 02:36:59 I wonder if anyone has ever done a ranged speedrun 02:37:12 !learn add arbalest Crossbow. 20 base damage, 19/10 base/mindelay. Used to just be called 'crossbow'. 02:37:13 arbalest[1/1]: Crossbow. 20 base damage, 19/10 base/mindelay. Used to just be called 'crossbow'. 02:37:16 !hs * hu 02:37:16 hu is ambiguous: may be species or class. Use hu-- (Human) or --hu (Hunter) to disambiguate 02:37:18 I guess all it'd let you do is possibly use more fragile species 02:37:20 !hs * --hu 02:37:21 103598. WalkerBoh the Executioner (L27 DDHu of Makhleb), escaped with the Orb and 14 runes on 2014-02-19 05:17:27, with 25919768 points after 49926 turns and 6:55:51. 02:37:24 <|amethyst> !lg * won min=turns skill=crossbows 02:37:25 79. Surr the Centaur Arbalest (L23 CeBe of Trog), escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2014-03-18 15:12:26, with 1798754 points after 54646 turns and 3:33:49. 02:37:28 <|amethyst> !lg * won min=turns skill=bows 02:37:29 434. JulesVerne the Crack Shot (L25 VpHu of Trog), escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2011-11-24 19:16:02, with 1684229 points after 62273 turns and 6:30:21. 02:37:31 <|amethyst> !lg * won min=turns skill=slings 02:37:32 88. jeanjacques the Slingshot (L27 GhSk of Cheibriados), escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2012-09-20 15:28:23, with 2330756 points after 37832 turns and 4:11:47. 02:37:35 <|amethyst> !lg * won min=turns skill=throwing 02:37:36 68. bart the Ogreish Ballista (L27 OgGl of Cheibriados), escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2014-05-13 19:36:14, with 2043137 points after 46981 turns and 7:09:29. 02:37:37 ??crossbow 02:37:37 crossbow[1/1]: 1.5 base delay, 0.7 mindelay. Fires bolts. 02:37:56 !learn e crossbow[1 s/$/ In {0.15}, see {arbalest}. 02:37:56 crossbow[1/1]: 1.5 base delay, 0.7 mindelay. Fires bolts. In {0.15}, see {arbalest}. 02:37:56 only the first of those count, and it's not great 02:37:56 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 02:38:07 but reasonably good at least 02:38:12 bart is a p good name imo 02:38:12 wonder why he stopped at 14 though 02:38:24 PleasingFungus: can you count past 3 ?! 02:38:33 gammafunk: no :( 02:38:40 ah 02:38:44 sorry, insensitive of me 02:39:08 but 02:39:17 !lg * won urune=15 min=turns skill=bows 02:39:18 82. Turgon the Merry Centaur (L27 CeAs of Zin), escaped with the Orb and 15 runes on 2013-08-01 11:35:59, with 17940018 points after 85339 turns and 1d+3:23:49. 02:39:18 -!- ruwin has quit [] 02:39:24 !lg * won urune=15 min=turns skill=crossbows 02:39:24 13. Surr the Naga Arbalest (L27 NaBe), escaped with the Orb and 15 runes on 2014-06-19 02:55:30, with 17641437 points after 87922 turns and 7:10:13. 02:39:32 hrm, this isn't even a very good query tbh 02:39:37 !learn add triple_crossbow[1 Like a crossbow, but three times as good! Base damage 24, base/mindelay 22/10. Historically known as a Chuangzi Nu. Not suitable for shaving. 02:39:38 triple crossbow[1/1]: Like a crossbow, but three times as good! Base damage 24, base/mindelay 22/10. Historically known as a Chuangzi Nu. Not suitable for shaving. 02:39:49 ??hellfire 02:39:49 hellfire[1/4]: 3x3 explosion used by certain high level demons and priests. Much like smiting, but does 3d20 and destroys your scrolls in 0.14-. Not affected by rF or AC. Hellions get hellfire burst which is smite targetted and 3d15. 02:40:13 is that for an unrand? 02:40:43 !learn s hellfire[3 Also an unrandart +6,+6 crossbow {rF++, rC-, MR+} which shoots hellfire bolts (hellfire elemental damage and exploding); in 0.15, a +6 arbalest with the aforementioned properties. Same damage as regular exploding ammo (2d5), but note that, being hellfire, it ignores AC. 02:40:43 hellfire[3/4]: Also an unrandart +6,+6 crossbow {rF++, rC-, MR+} which shoots hellfire bolts (hellfire elemental damage and exploding); in 0.15, a +6 arbalest with the aforementioned properties. Same damage as regular exploding ammo (2d5), but note that, being hellfire, it ignores AC. 02:40:44 ah sniper 02:41:11 "Possibly something more ambitious will be 02:41:17 03|amethyst02 07* 0.15-a0-2060-g8d519bd: Fix tiles compilation. 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=8d519bde221e 02:41:19 attempted in 1.6" 02:41:19 looking really far ahead imo 02:41:22 o 02:41:25 in my defense, I'm tired 02:41:29 and drunk 02:41:50 heh, is the above supporting evidence as well? 02:42:03 shit!!! 02:42:05 yes :( 02:42:17 ty |amethyst 02:42:24 it's ok, only the save corruption bugs really matter 02:42:25 <|amethyst> I'm going to have to ask you to hand over your keys 02:42:30 haha 02:42:34 <|amethyst> :) 02:42:42 !learn e sniper[1 s/$/ In 0.15, a +10 vorpal triple crossbow {sInv} with 27 base delay. 02:42:42 sniper[1/2]: The +15,+15 crossbow "Sniper" {velocity, SInv}. Has 20 base delay. In 0.15, a +10 vorpal triple crossbow {sInv} with 27 base delay. 02:42:45 designated commiter 02:42:46 hm 02:42:51 sort of a weird phrasing there 02:42:53 w/e 02:42:55 ??sniper[2 02:42:55 sniper[2/2]: the +10,+0 crossbow "Sniper" {venom, SInv}. Gone in 0.14. 02:43:11 !learn del sniper[2 02:43:12 Deleted sniper[2/2]: the +10,+0 crossbow "Sniper" {venom, SInv}. Gone in 0.14. 02:43:30 !learn add heavy_crossbow See {Sniper}. 02:43:31 heavy crossbow[1/1]: See {Sniper}. 02:43:51 ok. tomorrow, I fix monster launcher damage. 02:43:54 oh, right I should run the all-dungeon objstat again 02:43:58 I think I accidentally nerfed demas. 02:44:07 since the olds stats were actually kind of wrong 02:44:13 dang! 02:44:15 wrong how? 02:44:27 turns out the '9 oof on zot:5 on average' 02:44:37 is because when levels were being built and yet vetoed 02:44:45 due to where I placed the object recording calls 02:44:47 they got counted 02:44:56 so I moved everything post-successfull level build 02:45:00 so we won't have those problems 02:45:06 all the recording, that is 02:45:13 (it's about 5 oof on average on zot:5' 02:45:17 ahh 02:45:22 ha, I was closer to right! 02:45:34 I don't remember what I guessed, but it was something like 4 or 5 02:45:35 how off it was depends on whether the level in quesiton tends to get a lot of vetoes 02:45:41 it seems zot:5 does because of the large vault 02:45:46 that always places 02:47:04 heh, in GDD: "New Race: Gnome" 02:47:07 this is promising 02:47:42 I was trying to be nice to that person 02:47:49 since I think gdd is probably a little too cruel as a rule 02:50:34 Well, crate covered pointing out that 'Gnome' is not a 'new race', so that's that 02:51:03 boy that divinations apt looks sweet 02:55:44 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 33.0a1/20140702030201]] 02:56:01 03|amethyst02 07* 0.15-a0-2061-gd84d17f: Don't crash when wielding non-weapons with a shield. 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 3-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=d84d17faf47f 02:57:17 -!- tinybat has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:59:33 -!- tksquared_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:02:02 -!- demiskeleton has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:02:34 -!- Kramin has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 03:03:08 -!- raskol has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:06:01 -!- Patashu has quit [Disconnected by services] 03:06:01 -!- Patashu_ has joined ##crawl-dev 03:06:07 03|amethyst02 07* 0.15-a0-2062-gacd6406: Unbrace. 10(22 seconds ago, 1 file, 0+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=acd6406a09e7 03:11:29 -!- FlowRiser has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:15:05 -!- DayBay has quit [] 03:15:14 03|amethyst02 07* 0.15-a0-2063-g7a1f68f: Compress blank lines. 10(75 seconds ago, 4 files, 0+ 7-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=7a1f68f53954 03:18:34 -!- MrPeeps has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 03:25:56 -!- tksquared has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:30:18 -!- AtomikKrab has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:35:00 -!- tilkau has quit [] 03:35:04 -!- alefury has joined ##crawl-dev 03:38:07 -!- soadzombi has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 03:40:54 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 03:47:07 -!- ebarrett_ has quit [] 03:48:50 -!- Tasonir has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:55:43 Enabling 'tiles_filter_scaling' in the init.txt causes UI colour change. 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=8788 by milo 04:08:55 03|amethyst02 07* 0.15-a0-2064-g8caa665: More functionobjecticide. 10(32 minutes ago, 2 files, 71+ 83-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=8caa665a5bfd 04:08:55 03|amethyst02 07* 0.15-a0-2065-g366234d: Remove some duplicate code. 10(14 minutes ago, 4 files, 22+ 37-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=366234d78663 04:11:22 -!- tksquared has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 04:16:40 -!- joy1999 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:16:58 -!- gammafunk has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:17:28 -!- snakesnake has quit [Client Quit] 04:38:44 -!- Wolfechu has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:44:12 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 04:54:03 -!- Wahaha has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:09:44 -!- DrinkMachine has joined ##crawl-dev 05:09:44 -!- DrinkMachine has quit [Changing host] 05:09:44 -!- DrinkMachine has joined ##crawl-dev 05:12:17 -!- dgu has quit [Quit: Leaving] 05:20:59 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:22:54 -!- TAS-2012v has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:25:20 is CDO trunk broken or something? 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Use !messages to read it. 08:08:57 Deleted lamia[1/4]: The naga queen! Lives in mid-to-late Snake. Casts IOOD, parrow, mesmerise, haste, and Teleport Self. Gone in .14. 08:08:58 !learn del lamia[1 08:08:58 !learn del lamia[1 08:08:59 Deleted lamia[1/3]: Oh Lamia is really a nice game for the game lovers. I played this game many a times, but still unsatisfied by it's fire and ice beauty. 08:08:59 Deleted lamia[1/2]: remind me to never do snake again 08:09:04 !learn add lamia[1] [Crawl development] will clip and Angel's Wings, / Conquer all mysteries by rule and line, / Empty the haunted ait, and gnomed mine-- / Unweave a rainbow as it erewhile made / The tender-person'd Lamia melt into a shade. 08:09:05 lamia[1/2]: [Crawl development] will clip and Angel's Wings, / Conquer all mysteries by rule and line, / Empty the haunted ait, and gnomed mine-- / Unweave a rainbow as it erewhile made / The tender-person'd Lamia melt into a shade. 08:09:16 !messages 08:09:16 (1/1) PleasingFungus said (1d 8h 33m 29s ago): 7*850 * (11 * 1/6 + 8*1/4) isn't 10.1k, it's 22k. imho get good noob 08:09:55 !learn e lamia[1] s/and/an/ 08:09:56 lamia[1/2]: [Crawl development] will clip an Angel's Wings, / Conquer all mysteries by rule and line, / Empty the haunted ait, and gnomed mine-- / Unweave a rainbow as it erewhile made / The tender-person'd Lamia melt into a shade. 08:10:50 !learn e lamia[1] s/ait/air 08:10:51 lamia[1/2]: [Crawl development] will clip an Angel's Wings, / Conquer all mysteries by rule and line, / Empty the haunted air, and gnomed mine-- / Unweave a rainbow as it erewhile made / The tender-person'd Lamia melt into a shade. 08:11:48 -!- Dixlet has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:12:07 -!- Dixlet has joined ##crawl-dev 08:12:56 -!- Zermako has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:15:06 -!- Lasty1 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:16:02 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 08:25:11 -!- Textmode has quit [Quit: "It was one dev, naked in a room with a carton of cigarettes, a thermos full of coffee and bourbon, and all his summoned angels."] 08:27:20 -!- eki has quit [Quit: leaving] 08:29:43 -!- Lasty1 has joined ##crawl-dev 08:30:53 wow, my changes are working on the first try 08:30:56 something must be wrong 08:31:36 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 08:32:40 -!- fiddlerwoaroof has quit [Quit: leaving] 08:33:15 -!- Basil has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 08:33:18 -!- sstrickl has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:35:15 aha, it's because i commented out the broken part 08:35:47 so apparently it is impossible in c++99 to explicitly initialize a class (like we do in mon-data.h) if it has a constructor? 08:37:24 even though the constructor in feature_def is do-nothing and exists only to set default values 08:41:09 what's c++99? 08:43:17 ? 08:43:27 the one before c++0x, i guess 08:43:58 -!- tsohg has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:46:34 that was 93 08:46:44 -!- tcjsavannah has quit [Quit: tcjsavannah] 08:47:34 ok, though the version number isn't really important here 08:47:43 i wonder if i even need to defaults here... 08:48:04 -!- ketsa has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:48:33 well, it corresponds to the year, so it's not surprising that C++93 is missing something you'd come to expect in C99 ;p 08:49:20 -!- tsohg has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:49:44 oh wait 08:50:14 for some reason I thought you were referring to using field names in struct initializations 08:50:17 >_> 08:52:55 I guess I should refrain from touching computers at the moment 08:53:39 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 08:56:48 -!- NeremWorld has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:02:52 -!- Arkaniad has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:03:33 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:04:24 -!- TS__ has joined ##crawl-dev 09:05:52 -!- joy1999 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:06:31 -!- joy199 is now known as joy1999 09:09:15 -!- tsohg has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:13:49 -!- DrinkMachine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:14:22 -!- tsohg has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 09:15:54 -!- negatendo has quit [Quit: poop] 09:38:05 -!- tcjsavannah has quit [Quit: tcjsavannah] 09:38:15 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 09:39:09 -!- tollymain has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 09:55:25 -!- MgDark has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 31.0/20140710141843]] 09:55:56 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 09:56:26 -!- tcjsavannah has quit [Quit: tcjsavannah] 10:01:01 -!- stickyfingers has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:03:35 -!- DC_ has quit [Client Quit] 10:03:38 -!- giantbat has quit [Quit: ???] 10:08:19 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 10:15:50 -!- mamgar_ has quit [Client Quit] 10:15:58 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:17:01 -!- mamgar has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:17:22 -!- negatendo has quit [Quit: poop] 10:17:49 -!- phalm has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:20:02 <|amethyst> pre-C++11 is C++03 but really that's a minor update to C++98 10:22:24 yeah, I couldn't even read '98' right <_< 10:22:38 -!- Quashie has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:25:04 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 10:26:19 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 10:27:20 -!- predator217 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:27:49 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:28:03 -!- Crehl has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:33:57 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 10:33:59 -!- tsohg has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:37:25 -!- pooper has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:40:46 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 10:44:47 -!- oneeyedjack has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:47:05 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 10:47:07 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 10:49:00 wheals: have you gotten good yet 10:49:19 is separating code and data good enough!! 10:49:31 sounds good to me 10:49:54 though rn undiscovered traps and floor look different on magic mapping so that's not so good 10:50:05 -!- Tedronai has quit [Quit: leaving] 10:50:21 hm 10:50:24 console? 10:50:30 yeah 10:50:38 i mean, with the changes i've made 10:51:01 actually, it looks like it's just with &{ 10:51:14 so maybe this is intentional 10:51:54 yeah, can you check whether they look different in trunk in &{ 10:51:58 <|amethyst> they do not 10:52:00 (&~Z5) 10:52:05 oh, weird 10:52:17 <|amethyst> ohh 10:52:21 <|amethyst> maybe they do 10:52:39 <|amethyst> ah, yes, they do 10:52:46 <|amethyst> hey don't get floor colour 10:52:46 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 10:52:52 <|amethyst> s/hey/they/ 10:53:05 ok, so it's just a weird feature :) 10:53:09 hm. opinion on making potions of cancellation dispel the slow from berserk? 10:53:20 there's a weird old special case there preventing it which I'm not sure needs to exist 10:53:32 looks like &{ is different for water too 10:55:05 also dang this zot:5 layout looks wrong but i guess it's just &^R weirdness maybe 10:55:27 <|amethyst> wrong how? 10:55:55 <|amethyst> &^R shouldn't be doing anything particularly funny 10:56:12 i was in an isolated bubble with a door to the permarock far left of hall_of_zot 10:56:42 though part of the wrong-looking was asymmetry i now realise was because the permarock that doesn't border floor doesn't get mapped 10:57:02 <|amethyst> sounds kind of like #8752 10:57:34 lastly, it looks like sometimes the permarock "arms" separating the top and bottom part of each lung have a piece of stone in the middle 10:57:49 that might be intended? 10:57:53 <|amethyst> that's intentional 10:58:09 <|amethyst> so you might have a chance to cut a few steps if you can LRD or shatter 10:58:24 <|amethyst> (though with as loud as those are...) 10:59:01 hehe, i shattered /out/ of hall_of_zot once 10:59:09 shattering in sounds like a just plain bad idea 10:59:21 corrupting through is pretty doable 10:59:36 ah, true 10:59:46 <|amethyst> okay, after a few tries I got a disconnected Zot:5 too, though at least the bubble had an upstair 11:01:13 -!- stickyfingers_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:03:53 -!- eb_ has joined ##crawl-dev 11:06:32 -!- debo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:06:49 -!- puissantveil has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:06:57 Dummy Monster goes berserk! 11:07:02 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 11:10:09 hmm 11:15:09 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.15-a0-2066-gcd4f2c0: Make potions of cancellation a little more consistent 10(8 minutes ago, 1 file, 11+ 12-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=cd4f2c0cb795 11:15:09 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.15-a0-2067-g0b545c0: Tweak triple crossbows 10(5 minutes ago, 2 files, 3+ 3-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=0b545c0a442c 11:15:14 |amethyst, isolated bubbles are something layout_basic can ordinarily create, and as long as the hall of zot is reachable from -some- upstair it seems fine 11:15:19 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 11:15:27 |amethyst, #8752 is different though 11:15:50 a door into permarock seemed like it was due to a bug, though 11:17:20 -!- tsohg has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:17:27 which layout was it? 11:17:55 no idea; didn't really think to save a screenshot 11:18:13 and wow, snake:5 gets a lot of vetos 11:20:31 argh 11:20:47 hit &^R instead of &^E after generating a buggy level -_- 11:22:13 -!- tsohg has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:25:08 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:26:58 gah, CDO is still b0rked 11:29:33 -!- Alarkh has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:30:34 -!- Lasty1 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 11:31:58 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:32:57 oh fun 11:33:23 <|amethyst> Kvaak: how so? 11:33:36 it just gives a weird error when attempting to start a trunk game 11:33:42 (stable works fine) 11:33:57 /bin/crawl-svn-cdaee41: error while loading shared libraries: libpcre.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory 11:34:00 Error: unknown encoding "▒▒▒▒" 11:34:03 Press any key... 11:34:10 <|amethyst> /bin/crawl-svn-cdaee41: error while loading shared libraries: libpcre.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory 11:34:14 <|amethyst> hm 11:34:55 -!- Lasty1 has joined ##crawl-dev 11:35:24 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 11:35:59 <|amethyst> I don't think I changed anything that would make PCRE the default 11:36:33 -!- bmfx has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 11:37:05 <|amethyst> hm 11:37:14 <|amethyst> it uses BUILD_PCRE=yesplease 11:38:05 <|amethyst> That build script was just updated this morning 11:38:30 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 11:39:50 <|amethyst> oh 11:39:58 <|amethyst> I guess that's just because the build happened this morning 11:40:34 -!- MrPeeps has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:41:26 <|amethyst> it's supposed to be statically linked; did I break that somehow 11:43:48 ugh 11:43:59 i need to look into making ccache work on msysgit 11:44:46 <|amethyst> supposedly there's this, but I haven't tried it: http://code.google.com/p/ccache-win32/ 11:44:58 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:45:27 i think that it actually comes with a ccache, but it doesn't seem to work by default 11:45:43 i guess i just need to append the path to it to my $PATH? 11:46:08 <|amethyst> prepend 11:46:09 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 11:46:14 <|amethyst> it should come before the real gcc 11:46:37 ah 11:49:06 -!- Philonous has quit [Quit: (<<<)] 11:53:23 <|amethyst> hm 11:55:18 -!- negatendo has quit [Quit: poop] 11:56:35 <|amethyst> so maybe I did break this, but if so I don't know why it would show up just now 11:56:38 <|amethyst> I think I have a fix 11:56:50 <|amethyst> (oh, I guess if pcre was recently installed on the host) 11:59:51 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: oh, the other thing about the slow thing... it had been kind of buggy ever since we added more uses for the Exh duration 11:59:58 yeah 12:00:02 I think I mentioned that in the commit 12:00:10 <|amethyst> oh, so you did 12:00:38 <|amethyst> IMO the other ones were just inconsistencies, but that part was a bug 12:01:23 does that make it a bugfix commit, then? 12:01:25 :) 12:01:49 03|amethyst02 07* 0.15-a0-2068-gfdca960: Don't link against both contrib and system libpcre. 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 5+ 5-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=fdca96066157 12:03:30 fr: a rule for whether we use const char* foo or const char *foo 12:03:48 or const char * foo 12:03:59 imho *foo 12:04:03 <|amethyst> personally I prefer const char *foo but const char * const foo 12:04:14 ^ fwiw 12:04:21 const char *foo, bar 12:04:31 though idk how often we end up declaring multiple vars on one line anyway? 12:04:34 <|amethyst> And never ever doing that 12:04:50 <|amethyst> multiple vars is fine, but I would never declare multiple vars of different types with one decl 12:04:59 yeh. it's legal but confuses people 12:05:20 const char *foo looks a little weird with the equal spacing on this class decl though 12:05:22 "it's legal but confuses people" - c[++] syntax in a nutshell 12:06:07 <|amethyst> wheals: are you lining up the "f" or the "*" with the other names? 12:06:19 <|amethyst> maybe lining up the f would look better 12:06:27 the f, it still looked weird 12:06:30 <|amethyst> hm 12:07:26 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.15-a0-2068-gfdca960 (34) 12:07:47 !vault hall_of_pain 12:07:47 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/dat/des/branches/pan.des;hb=HEAD#l2344 12:07:58 it's c++, it's going to look weird regardless >.> 12:08:27 <|amethyst> Kvaak: fixed, thanks 12:08:37 yay! 12:10:55 <|amethyst> Hm, I need to make more buggy commits that I then fix with another two or three commits 12:11:13 <|amethyst> so I can pass PleasingFungus for commits in July :) 12:11:27 I never make buggy commits. 12:11:30 I have a Seal of Quality. 12:11:34 Every commit gets stamped. 12:11:43 <|amethyst> You stamp the commit like a bug! 12:11:51 the only way to never make buggy commits is to never make commits 12:12:26 even whitespace-only commits can break preprocessor directives 12:12:41 or vaults 12:12:49 <|amethyst> Zaba: and templates in C++03 without compiler extensions! 12:12:55 oh yes 12:13:32 <|amethyst> or I guess non-templates: a+++b 12:13:54 This is why we have a rich set of unit and integration tests, to ensure that careless commits won't sneak bugs into the repository. 12:14:01 well, "remove all whitespace" isn't the kind of whitespace-only commit I've had in mind ;) 12:14:12 <|amethyst> Zaba: I mean, adding whitespace to "fix" that :) 12:14:13 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.15-a0-2067-g0b545c0 (34) 12:14:15 though it would be only fitting in crawl, I guess 12:14:42 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: we do have a rich set of integration tests 12:14:45 <|amethyst> !lg * alive 12:14:46 Unknown field: verb 12:14:48 <|amethyst> !lm * alive 12:14:54 63152. [2014-07-13 17:14:13] Cardeni the Ducker (L1 DsGl) began the quest for the Orb on turn 0. (D:1) 12:14:58 -!- tksquared has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:14:59 <|amethyst> !lm * alive s=gid 12:15:06 63154 milestones for * (alive): 1579x Aarujn:cao:20140322003254S, 604x MarvinPA:cdo:20130118213330S, 555x Fungus:cbro:20140410202807S, 352x InameasOne:cszo:20130915220225S, 282x Volrath:cszo:20130916011233S, 278x luis21:cszo:20140025215329S, 251x Rhood:cao:20140120180908S, 223x Jigsaw:cszo:20130320215812S, 211x Volrath:cao:20140323205126S, 208x mpa:cao:20140013203440S, 192x jspanek3:cszo:201406032... 12:15:12 <|amethyst> err 12:15:16 <|amethyst> !lm * alive x=cdist(gid) 12:15:22 63156 milestones for * (alive): cdist(game_key)=8367 12:15:33 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: 8367 integration tests in progress :) 12:15:45 I'm not sure if a+++b can be fixed with whitespace because nobody knows what it does anyway :P 12:16:20 <|amethyst> Zaba: I *think* it's a++ + b but I'd probably write a test to be sure :) 12:16:37 I think so too, from looking at operator(7) 12:17:02 codepad gives a syntax error 12:17:14 http://codepad.org/l0doeFFS 12:17:54 PleasingFungus, http://codepad.org/uptDikq0 12:18:03 -!- raskol has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:18:12 o 12:18:15 hm 12:18:29 doesn't establish what a or b were set to, of course 12:18:38 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:19:16 but yes, it's a++ + b, per precedence rules 12:19:26 and still almost certainly a bug if you find it in real code >_> 12:19:47 <|amethyst> yes http://codepad.org/cdwWHvLj 12:20:09 <|amethyst> and a+++++b is an error 12:20:16 thankfully 12:20:35 !lm * gid=Aarujn:cao:20140322003254S 12:20:35 1580. [2014-06-07 04:27:34] Aarujn the Farming Meteorologist (L27 TeWz of Vehumet) escaped from the Abyss! (Abyss:1) 12:20:52 !lm * gid=Aarujn:cao:20140322003254S s=verb 12:20:52 1580 milestones for * (gid=Aarujn:cao:20140322003254S): 699x abyss.exit, 699x abyss.enter, 52x zig, 36x br.enter, 36x uniq, 17x br.end, 16x br.exit, 11x rune, 4x zig.enter, 4x zig.exit, 2x ghost, god.maxpiety, crash, god.worship, begin 12:21:23 why 12:21:26 <|amethyst> When you bounce into the abyss, sometimes the abyss bounces back at you. 12:21:49 * wheals stares at the Abyss. Wheals suddenly stops moving! 12:21:58 -!- WereVolvo has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 12:22:42 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 12:24:04 |amethyst: preference on removed-monster ghost sprite status: current ?, or silly programmer-art ghost? http://i.imgur.com/KJJJXvY.png 12:24:21 alternately, this silly thing that was sitting around in rltiles http://i.imgur.com/Sv3Crq2.png 12:24:28 I... don't think it's used for anything? 12:24:51 ah, it's a player ghost sprite 12:25:01 "used for Detect Creatures" 12:25:42 are detect creatures like shadow creatures 12:25:49 <|amethyst> do we still have any ways of knowing a monster's letter/genus but not its type? 12:25:51 I think it is probably the divination spell 12:26:03 <|amethyst> I guess Detect Creatures still exists sort of 12:26:05 |amethyst: I want to say yes 12:26:06 xom can &D 12:26:08 <|amethyst> with Xom 12:26:08 yep 12:26:10 s/can/and/ 12:26:13 xom..... 12:26:15 also, maybe dowsing card?? 12:26:19 dowsing card?? 12:26:19 Gives 1 to 3 effects out of mapping, detect traps and items, telepathy (detects creatures for a duration). Randomly selects one of the three at power 0, another at power 1 (might be the same again), all three at power 2. 12:26:19 dowsing card, yes 12:26:37 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: I'd definitely rather have a real sprite than a big ? 12:26:51 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:27:13 <|amethyst> at least, if we're going to actually use 'ghost' monsters as we currently do 12:28:08 <|amethyst> maybe ontoclasm has sprite suggestions? 12:28:13 pfft 12:28:15 !seen ontoclasm 12:28:15 I last saw ontoclasm at Sun Jul 13 11:36:14 2014 UTC (5h 52m 1s ago) joining the channel. 12:28:56 <|amethyst> I like the second one but I wouldn't want to conflict with detected pghosts, since the latter can be quite a bit tougher than the 'ghost' monster 12:29:07 ghost (16W) | Spd: 10 | HD: 1 | HP: 1 | AC/EV: 0/0 | 07undead, 10doors, evil, lev | Res: 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm, 04napalm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 1 | Sz: Medium | Int: normal. 12:29:07 %??ghost 12:29:13 quite a bit tougher, yes :) 12:29:17 <|amethyst> OTOH your version might adequately convey their derpiness 12:29:27 -!- negatendo has quit [Client Quit] 12:29:50 my primary goal was to (1) make them look like ghosts (2) that looked silly (3) but didn't look like sperm 12:29:57 I may or may not have succeeded 12:30:37 IMO recruit grunt for his tilescreationexpertise 12:31:12 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 12:31:20 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 12:31:31 -!- HaltingProblem has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:31:44 <|amethyst> I think you succeeded with those but being so flat might make them stand out as too cartoonish (relative to the rest of crawl) 12:31:57 they are Very Flat 12:32:02 cardboard cutout ghosts 12:33:40 mm. I'll push it for now, since it is Better Than Nothing (probably?), and someone else can tweak it later if need be 12:33:46 not the highest priority in any case, of course 12:34:24 <|amethyst> sure 12:34:48 <|amethyst> cardboard cutout ghosts are better than carboard cutout question marks :) 12:35:07 <|amethyst> 2977 net lines now 12:35:17 <|amethyst> Some day I will be negative 12:35:23 Oh, don't be like that. 12:35:28 Be positive. 12:35:29 :) 12:35:51 actually that was really bad 12:36:04 -!- Lasty1 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:37:51 -!- elliptic has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:38:41 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 12:38:55 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 12:41:32 hm. gitorious is getting kinda spotty 12:41:39 getting/being 12:42:11 <|amethyst> would you say it's gitoriously flaky? 12:42:21 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.15-a0-2069-g27dff21: Changelog through 0.15-a0-2067-g0b545c0 10(47 minutes ago, 1 file, 14+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=27dff2131d8f 12:42:21 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.15-a0-2070-gb291e5b: Add a placeholder ghost sprite 10(3 minutes ago, 3 files, 3+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=b291e5b711a0 12:42:28 boo, hiss, etc 12:44:56 it looks so friendly 12:45:22 http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20080802151148/gunnerkrigg/images/9/98/Mort.jpg inspiration 12:46:34 03|amethyst02 07* 0.15-a0-2071-g9a82e6e: Crush a ghost. 10(29 seconds ago, 1 file, 0+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=9a82e6e69295 12:46:36 <|amethyst> So inefficient! 12:46:57 <|amethyst> :P 12:47:13 dang, wasting 1.2 kb 12:47:15 I feel terrible 12:47:21 You squash the ghost like a commit!! 12:47:23 and git will remember that forever 12:47:52 <|amethyst> Zaba: yeah, it's only a benefit for... people who download source tarballs I guess :) 12:48:31 fortunately crawl doesn't have high-resolution textures and such 12:49:10 well, presumably also for people who compile? 12:49:39 no idea if it actually speeds it up 12:49:50 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 12:50:51 -!- Lasty1 has joined ##crawl-dev 12:51:42 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.15-a0-2072-g14d464d: Remove support for door-snapping attacks 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 0+ 9-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=14d464dfd1d6 12:52:25 down this road lies removing support for los-blocking monsters, you know... 12:52:47 there's also MMT_WAS_DOOR_MIMIC that could be removed now 12:53:25 ah 12:53:49 ...well, it's still possible for people to have door mimics in their game 12:53:55 -!- Vorhito has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:54:09 so for non-cosmetic stuff, it'd probably be better to slap on a TAG_MAJOR_VERSION block 12:54:21 I'm not sure if MMT_WAS_DOOR_MIMIC is non-cosmetic 12:54:28 <|amethyst> it's actually all cosmetic 12:54:33 o 12:54:36 <|amethyst> but you can't remove the flag of course 12:54:53 <|amethyst> oh wait 12:55:05 <|amethyst> it's a bitfield so I guess you can as long as you don't shift the next one 12:55:07 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:55:37 <|amethyst> I'd still probably use #if TAG_MAJOR_VERSION 12:56:15 <|amethyst> since it's just three lines that aren't very complex 12:56:18 Do you want to do it, or should I? 12:56:37 <|amethyst> Hm, laziness or commit count 12:56:40 <|amethyst> you can :) 12:56:54 ha 12:57:34 -!- Basil has joined ##crawl-dev 12:57:45 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: also, AT_SPLASH and AT_SNAP 12:58:02 dang! 12:58:04 wide-reaching changes 12:58:44 tbh I kind of feel a little bad about the change; I was reminded to remove that code by some guy posting in a "favorite things about crawl" thread (he was amused by fountain mimics splashing at him) 12:58:49 rip 12:58:49 rip 13:02:09 we can compensate by removing blood fountains 13:02:10 right 13:02:33 they're so thematic! 13:02:53 tbh I'd rather remove sparkling fountains (unless they're already gone?) 13:02:55 I forget 13:03:02 but the nem altar vault 13:03:11 that doesn't even make sense now! 13:03:17 you can't gamble with a fountain you can't quaff from... 13:03:21 and sparkling fountains are part of crawl _history_ 13:03:26 ??fountain[elf 13:03:27 fountain[2/3]: In old versions, quaffing from these had effects, such as removing -cTele on Elf:$. 13:03:33 yes. exactly. they're history 13:04:14 |amethyst: this is odd. it looks like attack_type is unmarshalled, but I can't see where it's marshalled? 13:04:19 w.r.t removing at_snap & at_splash 13:04:49 in _marshall_mi_attack 13:05:06 ah, I see 13:06:20 hm, it seems that ccache is being a little too agressive 13:06:22 ...at_cherub is a weird attack flavour 13:06:23 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 13:09:14 oh well, i guess maybe i will try to get ccache to work some other time 13:10:46 -!- negatendo has quit [Quit: poop] 13:20:01 -!- CryptoCactus has quit [Client Quit] 13:20:10 -!- rbrrk has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:22:04 blog post is up http://crawl.develz.org/wordpress/trunk-updates-13-july-2014 feel free to mock me for any errors, as usual 13:23:01 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:24:56 <|amethyst> wheals: you're working on feature_def aren't you? 13:25:12 <|amethyst> wheals: I'm making a pretty big indentation change and it touched feature_def's class definition 13:25:39 <|amethyst> (big in the number of places touched) 13:28:17 -!- jaumoose has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:28:58 <|amethyst> maybe I'll hold off on this 13:29:48 <|amethyst> http://s-z.org/neil/tmp/0001-Make-initialization-list-indentation-more-consistent.patch 13:34:27 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 13:35:14 -!- bencryption has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.3] 13:40:45 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:43:25 -!- Nomi has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:43:41 hm 13:43:49 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 13:43:51 I wonder if there's a good way to figure out what kind of damage ranged monsters do 13:44:06 -!- jday_ has joined ##crawl-dev 13:44:07 or if i should just slap some changes against a wall & see what happens 13:44:18 (I think I accidentally nerfed demas) 13:45:37 -!- rossi has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.3] 13:48:06 it'd be kind of nice if monster weapon math even vaguely resembled player weapon math 13:51:21 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:51:49 -!- fiddlerwoaroof has quit [Quit: leaving] 13:58:38 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.15-a0-2073-g527e4c3: Clean up more door/fountain mimic code (Zaba, |amethyst) 10(43 minutes ago, 5 files, 12+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=527e4c3afe29 13:58:38 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.15-a0-2074-gc808fc2: Tweak some ranged weapon monsters 10(4 minutes ago, 1 file, 3+ 3-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=c808fc281857 14:00:20 -!- crate has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:01:32 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: probably the easiest way to find out currently is to do a debug build and let one shoot at you 14:01:51 yeah i've tried that. there's so much variance, though 14:04:03 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:04:46 <|amethyst> I tried making fsim use ranged attacks (using handle_throw) but it doesn't seem to work 14:04:56 dang 14:05:01 <|amethyst> it's shooting at me, because it leaves the ammo 14:05:05 <|amethyst> (that could be fixed) 14:05:12 <|amethyst> but the damage is exactly the same as melee 14:05:15 that's 14:05:17 odd 14:09:04 -!- tcjsavannah has quit [Quit: tcjsavannah] 14:09:20 <|amethyst> also, it looks like fsim doesn't pay attention to attack speed 14:09:28 <|amethyst> on monsters 14:09:34 nice 14:09:39 <|amethyst> time_taken += 1000 / (mon.speed ? mon.speed : 10) 14:09:54 why is code so hard. 14:14:23 -!- tksquared_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 14:25:37 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 33.0a1/20140702030201]] 14:26:29 -!- reaverb has joined ##crawl-dev 14:26:41 -!- tswett has quit [Quit: tswett] 14:27:37 Hmm, PleasingFungus just left. I was about to mock him for an error in the blog post. 14:28:16 -!- Keanan has joined ##crawl-dev 14:28:57 -!- jcd748 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:30:00 Oh, hmm, I should have checked before saying that, it mentions that potions of canecellation replace paralysis and then potions of strong poison were removed. 14:30:42 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 14:31:36