00:02:24 Stable (0.14) branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.14.1-25-g305bacd 00:02:47 kraken fix: make krakens amphibious 00:02:54 ??fedhas reasons[kraken 00:02:55 fedhas_reasons[4/4]: The kraken flops around on dry land! 00:03:16 -!- CSDCS has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:05:03 -!- Whistling_Bread has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:06:15 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.15-a0-1866-g491fd59 (34) 00:06:27 -!- TR_Muscateer has joined ##crawl-dev 00:06:54 -!- tsohg has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 00:07:04 -!- CSDCMS has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:11:18 -!- Krakhan has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 00:11:29 is there an equivalent to you.num_turns for aut? 00:12:09 you.elapsed_time 00:14:18 Stable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.14.1-25-g305bacd (34) 00:15:17 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:17:42 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:18:04 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 00:18:43 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.15-a0-1866-g491fd59 (34) 00:18:57 hm 00:19:10 is it intended that you can't eat chunks off the floor? 00:19:16 i'm pretty sure you used to be able to 00:19:21 yes 00:19:24 blame wheals 00:19:32 rip 00:19:32 rip 00:23:43 -!- valrus has quit [Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. 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There are cases where this is abused for insane speedruns. 02:17:47 sounds Quite Strong 02:20:58 son of a bitch, he's right. 02:20:59 Stable (0.14) branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.14.1-25-g305bacd 02:22:36 if anyone fixes this before I wake up, the reporter's name is 크롤러 02:22:40 all-rune speedruns, surely 02:22:42 or his handle, anyway 02:22:57 Zaba: ? 02:23:17 a normal speedrun and pandemonium don't really seem to mix :P 02:23:27 oh. all-rune speedrun, yes 02:23:32 in the korean fashion 02:24:14 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 33.0a1/20140621030204]] 02:24:22 I wouldn't be surprised if they tried that to get a 3-rune speedrun with some of the runes being from Pan 02:24:33 it doesn't sound that promising though, maybe 02:24:42 well 02:24:50 I'm too terrible at this game to tell :P 02:26:16 I mean it's not just that, I don't know how much damage the allies they expect to have will output and how the time on trying to get 2 pan runes would 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has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 04:41:47 -!- Hailley has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 04:43:04 -!- blueblack has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:46:55 everett_: I think that is normal 04:47:02 everett_: some entry vaults have multiple exits from the dungeon 04:49:06 Patashu_: ok thanks. i don't know if this changes anything but i started from a single exit that didn't look like a vault and found a vault exit while exploring the floor 04:58:32 -!- Basil has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:59:18 -!- scummos^ has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 05:02:40 Everett_: yeah, that can happen too 05:03:42 used to be that you'd -always- have 3 exits 05:04:56 can D:1 have multiple entry vaults? if one uses only two exits, and the other uses one, for instance 05:08:55 i don't think i've ever seen that but i can't say it's impossible 05:26:13 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 05:26:30 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 05:35:26 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 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Use !messages to read them. 11:21:03 PleasingFungus: OK, I'll let |amethyst know. 11:23:30 -!- Farcaster has quit [Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de] 11:23:52 Stable (0.14) branch on crawl.lantea.net updated to: 0.14.1-25-g305bacd 11:24:37 !send PleasingFungus a ring of conflict 11:24:38 Sending a ring of conflict to PleasingFungus. 11:25:12 (unrand, evoke for Discord) 11:25:25 <|amethyst> I considered putting this stuff in store.h (with non-static functions of course), but I don't think anything else sorts a CrawlVec 11:25:25 |amethyst: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 11:27:20 <|amethyst> I almost implemented a template T CrawlStoreValue::get() but then I saw it defined all the relevant casting operators 11:27:40 <|amethyst> so I just used those instead 11:28:06 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.15-a0-1868-g17bf3f4: Simplify blood potion initialization 10(15 hours ago, 7 files, 21+ 29-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=17bf3f41985e 11:28:06 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.15-a0-1869-gdaf2925: Export blood-rot time 10(15 hours ago, 3 files, 6+ 3-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=daf29251ac5c 11:28:06 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.15-a0-1870-g67595e7: Remove a reference to monster napping 10(15 hours ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=67595e7541ac 11:28:06 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.15-a0-1871-g6b684f5: Remove x 10(15 hours ago, 1 file, 27+ 19-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=6b684f55be02 11:28:06 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.15-a0-1872-g5aed516: Move some more rot code into rot.cc 10(14 hours ago, 3 files, 256+ 225-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=5aed516aed78 11:28:54 hm. which direction does your new sort function sort? 11:29:04 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 11:30:14 man. literally everything in this file got conflicted, twice 11:30:22 rip 11:30:28 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: descending order 11:30:33 good 11:30:56 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: the original code reversed it into a vector, sorted that in ascending order, then reversed it back into the CrawlVector 11:31:24 yep 11:31:36 I eventually figured that out! 11:31:40 I am a genius, and also a mons_genus 11:32:24 -!- ActinalWhomp has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:32:27 MONS_FUNGUS 11:32:47 <|amethyst> DUMMY(MONS_PLEASINGFUNGUS, P, ETC_JEWEL, "pleasingfungus"); 11:33:02 I am NOT a dummy. 11:33:15 03wheals02 07* 0.15-a0-1873-g4a4df5a: De-rune Jory's tower. 10(3 hours ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=4a4df5a50d71 11:33:15 03wheals02 07* 0.15-a0-1874-g0556778: Symbolise. 10(3 hours ago, 4 files, 10+ 7-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=0556778dcb5a 11:33:15 03wheals02 07* 0.15-a0-1875-gaca7260: Combine key names, symbolise. 10(5 minutes ago, 7 files, 15+ 6-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=aca7260646bd 11:33:17 I have I_HIGH. it says so in the code. 11:33:21 !send PleasingFungus a brain 11:33:22 Sending a brain to PleasingFungus. 11:33:55 <|amethyst> bloody rune of Zot 11:34:33 <|amethyst> hm 11:34:40 huh, kinda expected that ORIGINAL_BRAND_KEY change to cause conflicts in my lethal infusion branch 11:34:41 but it didn't! 11:35:00 <|amethyst> I wonder if we should use constants instead of defines for those 11:35:12 well, make sure that you actually update any uses of "orig brand" 11:35:13 <|amethyst> also for ROTTING_BLOOD etc 11:35:28 maybe 11:35:46 <|amethyst> (the main reason being so you can refer to them in the debugger) 11:35:54 wheals: looks like I didn't add any! 11:36:27 hm. I think I am learning valuable lessons about soliciting player feedback 11:36:29 Is easier gameplay always the best? I hope abandoning the intentionally user-unfriendly elements of the roguelike and thus its identity is not your idea of ‘development.’ I’m sure Stonesoup’s goal is not to be a casual babby roguelike. 11:37:05 nethacklike 11:37:16 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: did they actually write "babby"? 11:37:35 <|amethyst> They need to do way instain dev. 11:37:37 well, they probably wrote something like '아가' 11:37:44 idk tho 11:37:52 I'm not doing the translations 11:37:57 <|amethyst> ah 11:39:06 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: And that is actually fairly cogent compared to some of the stuff out there 11:39:28 <|amethyst> but now you see why DracoOmega left, twice :( 11:39:43 btw I just checked 11:40:07 my friend says the original phrase (that he translated into 'casual babby roguelike') was "coffee-break roguelike" 11:40:10 he hadn't encountered the term before 11:40:14 <|amethyst> aha 11:41:05 <|amethyst> Maybe someone should translate section N of the manual into Korean :) 11:41:09 -!- giantbat has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:41:24 how do you say pas de faq in korean 11:42:02 <|amethyst> Of course, one could argue (I disagree, but one could) that there is a conflict here between "challenging ... gameplay" and "painless interface and newbie support" 11:44:33 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:44:49 mm 11:45:07 I don't think you could argue it very well... 11:45:17 did you see the pan/follower bug I mentioned? 11:45:27 <|amethyst> yes, but didn't look into it yet 11:45:31 <|amethyst> that sounds really weird 11:45:49 <|amethyst> does it happen with all allys, all followers, or just Beogh followers? 11:45:53 <|amethyst> s/llys/llies/ 11:46:03 haven't checked yet 11:46:12 just tested with beogh pals 11:46:25 I have encountered "coffee-break roguelike" before 11:46:40 it's a real term! coffee-break roguelikes are cool 11:46:54 <|amethyst> does DoomRL count? 11:47:02 stone soup is about an order of magnitude too long to be one, but that just makes it better hyperbole :) 11:47:06 |amethyst: probably not 11:47:11 But I haven't seen it applied to easy games so much as short ones, like Desktop Dungeons and old versions of DoomRL. 11:47:11 reminds me of the bug how with restart_after_game you could recall followers from the previous game 11:47:22 <|amethyst> wheals: haha 11:47:26 incredible 11:47:34 what is this about babby roguelikes 11:47:54 Heh. There also used to be one where restart_after_game if you died as a Jiyva follower gave you access to the Slime:6 loot 11:48:22 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: hm, it happens with mercs and yred followers too 11:48:40 <|amethyst> not with summons though 11:48:43 sounds right 11:48:46 something about follower code 11:48:55 so all you have to do is save and then reload? 11:49:00 yep! 11:49:05 in pan 11:49:11 weird 11:49:36 <|amethyst> doesn't happen in bazaar 11:49:53 how about abyss? 11:49:54 <|amethyst> or abyss 11:49:57 k 11:52:24 <|amethyst> goes back to 0.12 11:52:30 <|amethyst> 0.11 seems to work correctly 11:53:09 hm, looks like i broke ערומא_vaults_entry_fortified 11:53:14 you broke what 11:53:18 grunt 11:53:36 off-by-alphabet error 11:53:44 rip 11:53:59 <|amethyst> The largest infinite number, א_{Grunt} 11:54:11 <|amethyst> s/infinite number/transfinite cardinal/ 11:54:35 <|amethyst> (I guess that aleph has its own codepoint but meh) 11:54:53 unicode is ridiculous 11:55:33 <|amethyst> pi-the-mathematical-symbol and pi-the-greek-letter get different codepoints... but heaven help you if you want to distinguish JP from ZH 11:55:41 looks like the human started with the xbow 11:55:47 but maybe it refused to switch for some reason? 11:55:53 <|amethyst> (which is why it took so long to catch on in Asia) 11:56:16 !send |amethyst han unification 11:56:16 Sending han unification to |amethyst. 11:56:37 (pretty sure that's something you do in dynasty warriors????) 11:57:51 ... 11:58:11 :) 11:58:27 granting that this client doesn't rtl correctly... that's "Gomorrah" 11:58:39 this may explain things about grunt :p 12:01:36 encompass vault idea?? 12:01:47 unknown monster: "human shaped pillar of salt" 12:01:47 %??human shaped pillar of salt 12:02:34 pillar of salt shaped pillar of salt (168) | Spd: 10 (07stationary) | HD: 1 | HP: 1 | AC/EV: 1/0 | 11non-living, 10items, 10doors | Res: 13magic(immune), 03poison, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | XP: 0 | Sz: Medium | Int: plant. 12:02:34 %??pillar of salt 12:02:45 good hape 12:02:47 *shape 12:02:57 It is as big as a pillar of salt. 12:03:24 Stable (0.14) branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.14.1-25-g305bacd 12:06:28 block of ice shaped block of ice (128) | Spd: 10 (07stationary) | HD: 3 | HP: 20-35 | AC/EV: 15/0 | 11non-living, 10items, 10doors | Res: 13magic(immune), 12cold+++, 03poison, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 04fire | XP: 0 | Sz: Medium | Int: plant. 12:06:28 <|amethyst> %?? block of ice 12:06:34 unknown monster: "block of ice shaped pillar of salt" 12:06:34 <|amethyst> %?? block of ice shaped pillar of salt 12:08:30 <|amethyst> wouldn't it me more like `aruma' ? 12:09:05 <|amethyst> google translate gives "aroma" :) 12:09:05 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.15-a0-1875-gaca7260 (34) 12:09:05 as I said, this client doesn't RTL 12:09:22 though technically the ע and א are still swapped 12:09:25 <|amethyst> ah, 'amora` 12:09:31 yeh 12:09:36 <|amethyst> Is gomorrah spelled with ayin? 12:09:54 unknown monster: "Hill giant shaped block of ice" 12:09:54 %??Hill giant shaped block of ice 12:09:55 the ayin should be at the front; that had at the time a gutteral sound, which is how it bewcome a "g" in Greek transliteration 12:10:20 (it was sort of a "gh" sound) 12:12:13 <|amethyst> ah... "the biblical phonemes /ʕ/ (or "ʿ") and /ʁ/ (represented by "g") were both represented in Hebrew writing by the letter ʿayin" 12:13:12 <|amethyst> Not that I can really tell the difference between ɣ and ʁ 12:14:02 ...it's all greek to you? 12:14:09 * wheals hides. 12:14:16 <|amethyst> and I can barely even tell that ʕ exists 12:14:38 <|amethyst> wheals: It's all Etruscan to me! 12:15:27 <|amethyst> what r does Dutch have? 12:16:03 <|amethyst> ah, depends on dialect; standard is alveolar trill 12:17:18 sounds right, based on the extensive experience of hearing a dutch guy talking about the game "Reus" 12:17:35 <|amethyst> I was thinking the French R, which would kind of run together with the Dutch G 12:17:46 <|amethyst> apparently that does happen in "The coastal dialects of South Holland" 12:18:10 i.e., near the french border? 12:18:28 <|amethyst> Belgian you mean? 12:19:07 yeah, i guess 12:19:26 <|amethyst> "Silly, Belgium *is* the French border of the Netherlands" 12:20:26 just don't tell any belgians that :) 12:21:49 <|amethyst> My home state of Kentucky should really be "West Virginia", and West Virginia should be "Central Virginia" 12:21:59 <|amethyst> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:United_States_1792-03-1792-06.png 12:22:14 !messages 12:22:14 No messages for TZer0. 12:23:27 <|amethyst> That map also explains some otherwise inexplicable university names, like Northwestern and Case Western Reserve 12:23:40 -!- Basil has joined ##crawl-dev 12:24:04 cwru wasn't inexplicable to those who went there for any amount of time, they seemed to delight in telling that story... 12:24:46 (I didn't even actually "go" there as such, it was a half day with high school thing) 12:27:31 -!- puissantveil has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:27:59 huh, who added "Omega point" as a randart name 12:29:44 -!- Aryth1 has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.0.4 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/] 12:30:56 <|amethyst> either Linley or the first devteam 12:31:02 <|amethyst> %git 673bdae 12:31:04 07peterb1202 * 673bdae75485: Initial revision 10(9 years ago, 183 files, 153322+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=673bdae75485 12:31:18 cool 12:31:37 is it possible to git blame a file not in the tree anymore? 12:31:45 <|amethyst> git blame bbefa2c3^ -- ./randart.cc 12:32:48 <|amethyst> you don't always need the -- between revision and file, but you do if the file doesn't exist in the tree 12:32:52 aha, didn't know about -- (well, here) 12:32:53 <|amethyst> current tree 12:33:35 <|amethyst> lots of commands will tell you "use -- to separate revisions from paths" when they can't find something, but I guess git blame doesn't 12:33:53 <|amethyst> s/commands/git sub&/ 12:34:09 aw, looks like "of Crawl" randart name got removed 12:35:21 <|amethyst> FR: "of the Overgod" "of the Garden of Coloured Lights" "of the Lacewing" 12:36:06 of Down Under 12:36:58 !source tags.cc:5220 12:36:58 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/tags.cc;hb=HEAD#l5220 12:37:03 <|amethyst> we have "of the Dropbear" 12:37:11 i know :) 12:37:16 !log . gr won 12:37:17 1. wheals, XL27 GrVM, T:138210: http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/wheals/morgue-wheals-20140113-002838.txt 12:37:24 I *think* this is the source of the pan orc bug 12:37:32 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: hm, is companion_is_elsewhere lying? 12:37:36 not exactly 12:37:50 I think it's a timing issue 12:37:54 <|amethyst> oh, you.where_are_you isn't loaded yet? 12:37:59 (player_in_branch(BRANCH_PANDEMONIUM) && companion_list[mid].level.branch == BRANCH_PANDEMONIUM && !monster_by_mid(mid) 12:38:06 the monster hasn't been placed on the level yet 12:38:08 <|amethyst> ohh 12:38:09 I think 12:38:09 <|amethyst> I see 12:38:21 <|amethyst> yeah 12:40:03 <|amethyst> but just doing that after populating the mid cache doesn't work 12:40:17 I'm not quite sure why the check exists? 12:40:21 <|amethyst> because then all your pan followers would be in the cache 12:40:26 %git 885b5f1e 12:40:27 07DracoOmega02 * 0.12-a0-2621-g885b5f1: Fix another method of cloning Yred/Beogh companions 10(1 year, 4 months ago, 4 files, 16+ 12-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=885b5f1ec666 12:40:30 ha 12:40:34 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: if you left followers on another level of pan, I think 12:40:41 so this would be the source of the bug 12:40:49 solution: remove pan???? 12:40:57 gammafunk did that already i think 12:41:00 o 12:41:31 oh, a weird thing: There are several objects here. 12:41:31 an orc corpse 12:41:45 (there is nothing else there) 12:41:51 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: that check was still there before that commit, just at the end of unmarshallMonster instead 12:42:14 well, if it was at the end, it wouldn't have this specific problem, yes? just the clone problem 12:42:18 fix one bug, make another 12:42:32 1learn add source 12:42:41 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: that's essentially where it currently happens 12:42:57 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: now it's right after unmarshallMonster instead of at the end 12:43:17 oh, sorry, I see 12:43:22 you're quite right 12:44:54 <|amethyst> %git 1bd74f58 12:44:54 07DracoOmega02 * 0.12-a0-2489-g1bd74f5: Interlevel recall for Yred and Beogh 10(1 year, 5 months ago, 16 files, 252+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=1bd74f58a62e 12:45:33 <|amethyst> hm, that version doesn't have the pan thing 12:45:37 ?/thrall 12:45:38 Matching entries (2): chaos_brand[12]: You hit the goblin. You fall down a shaft! Your mindless thralls stay behind. 12 skeletal warriors and Rupert come into view. Your giant spiked club of chaos shouts loudly! | goodmantis[2]: Search for the reports of the user "Thrall". Example: https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=6767 12:46:16 %git :/6767 12:46:19 07dolorous02 * 0.4-a0-4108-g7aa4a3c: Apply trunk r6759 to 0.4. 10(6 years ago, 1 file, 7+ 4-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=7aa4a3c4ab02 12:46:44 <|amethyst> %git 8500c20 12:46:44 07DracoOmega02 * 0.12-a0-2710-g8500c20: Fix being unable to recall companions from one Pan level to another 10(1 year, 4 months ago, 1 file, 37+ 35-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=8500c204f9fb 12:47:00 ah ha 12:47:24 <|amethyst> hm 12:47:58 -!- Tuxedo[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:50:38 <|amethyst> I'm not sure when that check would be needed 12:51:00 <|amethyst> I mean, if the monster is really on another level, surely it's not in menv ? 12:51:19 yeah that's what I was wondering 12:55:10 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:56:09 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:57:16 -!- puissantveil has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:59:14 -!- bmfx has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:00:38 <|amethyst> Since I don't really understand the reason for that check I won't remove it 13:00:54 -!- ActinalWhomp has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 13:00:55 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 13:01:25 <|amethyst> but I think I will move it after filling the cache (inside the if) 13:02:14 <|amethyst> which, in whatever obscure situation that check is for, could make some Pan followers to be on-level even though they shouldn't 13:02:46 <|amethyst> but it doesn't seem like it actually does 13:02:49 well 13:02:57 hm 13:03:04 I'm a little confused by that if, tbh 13:03:21 will unmarshalled monsters ever be dead if they *weren't* killed by the divine-companion check? 13:03:31 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: if the array slot was "empty" 13:03:39 <|amethyst> an invalid monster counts as !alive() 13:03:55 then shouldn't this divine companion check have been inside that if in the first place? 13:04:06 otherwise you're killing dead monsters 13:04:12 potentially 13:04:33 <|amethyst> yeah 13:05:08 also fr: replace "if (m.alive()) { ... }" with "if (!m.alive()) continue; ..." 13:05:12 <|amethyst> and it's purely luck that is_divine_companion doesn't do anything that asserts on MONS_NO_MONSTER 13:05:49 -!- alefury has quit [] 13:10:30 -!- Philonous has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 13:11:29 -!- Lasty1 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 13:11:53 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:17:33 <|amethyst> oh, this is silly 13:18:04 ? 13:18:10 <|amethyst> you know how I said that bug affected mercenaries? 13:18:16 yes? 13:18:42 <|amethyst> only if you got them while worshipping Beogh or Yred 13:18:47 haha 13:18:49 <|amethyst> I'm not fixing that 13:19:14 <|amethyst> maybe it's even intentional? 13:19:39 I mean, it does seem like you should be able to recall mercs 13:19:49 with beogh/yred's abilities 13:20:10 <|amethyst> yred won't recall living things will e? 13:20:16 will he 13:20:16 idk 13:21:46 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: that bug isn't on Mantis is it? 13:21:59 not afaik 13:22:02 !send Mantis bugs 13:22:02 Sending bugs to Mantis. 13:22:05 <|amethyst> And you said 크롤러 was the reporter's name? 13:22:07 yes 13:22:15 translates to "crawler", amusingly 13:22:21 good nick 13:22:34 <|amethyst> I'm a little wary of pushing this to 0.14, but that should be considered 13:22:58 * Grunt pushes |amethyst. 13:23:11 <|amethyst> hm 13:23:15 <|amethyst> what is gitorious doing 13:23:29 why wary of pushing 0.14? I'd be worried about pushing it anywhere, since it is some touchy code, but if it works in 0.15, I don't know that we changed anything relevant in 0.14? 13:23:30 <|amethyst> there we go 13:23:40 03|amethyst02 07* 0.15-a0-1876-gea7ed8e: Refactor a conditional (PleasingFungus) 10(15 minutes ago, 1 file, 25+ 25-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=ea7ed8e239e2 13:23:40 03|amethyst02 07* 0.15-a0-1877-g9f6866c: Don't disappear companions from Pan on load (크롤러, PleasingFungus) 10(7 minutes ago, 1 file, 6+ 5-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=9f6866c02e9a 13:23:42 that wasn't a good sentence 13:23:46 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: right, but it should at least get testing in Trunk 13:23:49 ah 13:23:51 reasonable 13:27:13 !send Trunk PleasingFungus 13:27:13 Sending PleasingFungus to Trunk. 13:40:19 -!- Datul has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:42:26 <|amethyst> best parameter name ever 13:42:31 <|amethyst> bool one_chance_in(int a_million) 13:43:17 <|amethyst> also in Initial revision 13:43:31 I didn't realize I was the *second* person to make that joke 13:43:43 but I may have been the first to actually pass 1000000 into the function??? 13:43:50 <|amethyst> :) 13:52:18 03|amethyst02 07* 0.15-a0-1878-gcd56c43: Refactor bernoulli a bit. 10(5 minutes ago, 2 files, 2+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=cd56c43f5f52 13:52:20 -!- Vizer has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:53:37 |amethyst: I'm not sure mathematicians appreciate being refactored... 13:54:05 <|amethyst> I might be putting him under high pressure 13:54:08 <|amethyst> at least on one side 13:59:57 -!- blabber has joined ##crawl-dev 14:03:10 -!- debo has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 14:11:36 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 14:12:18 -!- johlstei has joined ##crawl-dev 14:18:46 man 14:18:49 !source move_item_to_player 14:18:50 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/items.cc;hb=HEAD#l1630 14:19:00 this function doesn't respect the 'quiet' parameter at *all* 14:19:22 haha, even the docs mention it 14:23:35 <|amethyst> @param quiet Do some stuff, but not other stuff. 14:25:51 <|amethyst> hm, I think ISFLAG_DROPPED_BY_ALLY can go away now 14:25:51 -!- Moonsilence has quit [] 14:26:23 <|amethyst> it seems to be set but not read 14:26:28 nice 14:27:49 -!- Roarke has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:30:38 <|amethyst> oh, hah 14:31:27 <|amethyst> it looks like, other than Gozag, bernoulli is only used in.... 14:31:32 <|amethyst> the tornado code 14:32:59 perfect 14:39:00 -!- SwissStopwatch has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 14:41:08 -!- SwissStopwatch has joined ##crawl-dev 14:41:42 -!- DrinkMachine has joined ##crawl-dev 14:41:42 -!- DrinkMachine has quit [Changing host] 14:41:42 -!- DrinkMachine has joined ##crawl-dev 14:42:14 -!- negatendo has quit [Quit: poop] 14:42:26 -!- Cerpin has quit [Client Quit] 14:46:28 -!- rbrrk has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:46:51 -!- Relentless has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:47:55 -!- SeianVerian has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 14:48:06 -!- SeianVerian_ is now known as SeianVerian 14:49:49 hm 14:50:06 %git :/chunk 14:50:07 07reaverb02 * 0.15-a0-1875-g052f955: Merge branch 'master' into chunkless 10(2 days ago, files, + -) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=052f955056ed 14:51:08 -!- Lasty1 has joined ##crawl-dev 14:51:13 I think I might revert the chunk-eating-off-the-ground thing 14:51:37 at some point, MarvinPA or wheals can implement the 'universal ground interaction' stuff they were talking about 14:51:48 but until then, there's no reason to annoy people by making the ui worse 14:52:03 -!- djetty is now known as kazak 14:53:49 -!- Moonsilence has quit [] 14:55:29 -!- vadatajs has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:56:17 -!- wadeboogs has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:56:23 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:56:28 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:57:40 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:57:57 -!- johlstei has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:58:59 -!- johlstei has joined ##crawl-dev 14:59:08 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 15:04:51 -!- Keanan has joined ##crawl-dev 15:06:21 -!- ophanim has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 15:11:14 -!- blabber has quit [Quit: leaving] 15:12:01 -!- Ququman has joined ##crawl-dev 15:13:22 I am failing to revert 15:13:22 this is very odd 15:15:08 hm 15:15:09 -!- tsohg has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:15:27 if I revert those two "don't eat off the floor commits" and recompile, I still can't eat off the floor 15:15:46 kind of perplexed, here 15:17:53 * Grunt munches on the commit. 15:17:53 * Sequell also munches on the commit. 15:17:58 -!- puissantveil has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:18:00 good Sequell 15:18:25 -!- johlstei has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:18:26 oh, it turns out I'm dumb 15:18:43 !send PleasingFungus intelligence 15:18:44 Sending intelligence to PleasingFungus. 15:18:49 too late!!! 15:19:00 * Grunt gestures. Something feeds on PleasingFungus' intellect! 15:19:30 -!- CSDCS has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:19:51 turns out you need to be hungry to eat chunks off the floor..... 15:19:57 or anywhere 15:19:58 really 15:20:10 WHAT!? REALLY!? 15:20:18 unless you're some kind of TROLL 15:20:21 are you a troll 15:20:30 or other troll species 15:20:34 dead troll 15:20:35 -!- ActinalWhomp has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:20:38 moon troll?? 15:20:39 small troll 15:20:39 the +4 moon troll leather armour (Spirit MP+5 Regen). Base type is troll leather armour, which stacks with the intrinsic 40 regen (unless you are a troll). 15:20:44 * Grunt kicks Sequell. 15:20:45 ...ty sequell 15:20:45 -!- tsohg has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 15:20:52 Sequell?? 15:20:53 Grunt: The ##crawl bot, handling game statistics, the {learndb}, and more. Operated by greensnark. See http://github.com/greensnark/dcss_sequell/raw/master/docs/listgame.md If you want the source for *this bot*, go here: http://github.com/greensnark/dcss_sequell. 15:21:10 PleasingFungus?? 15:21:10 a misleading learndb dev entry ????? 15:21:15 <3 15:21:41 :) 15:22:46 -!- SeianVerian has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 15:25:29 ??fruit 15:25:30 food[2/4]: Sultana is 70. Grape is 100. Strawberry is 200. Lychee/choko/rambutan is 600. Apricot/pear/apple is 700. Banana/lemon/orange is 1000. Cheese/sausage is 1200. Beef jerky/pizza/snozzcumber is 1500. Porridge is 6040. In 0.15+, fruit is now condensed into one generic "fruit" item (worth 850 nutrition). 15:25:54 !calc 850 * 108 / 5000 15:25:55 18 15:26:06 !calc 850 * 108 15:26:08 91800 15:26:26 that's uh 15:26:28 a lot 15:26:35 yeah 15:26:44 seems that a certain fruit vault 15:26:46 might need adjusting 15:26:53 I ran into it in my chunkless game 15:27:00 but couldn't figure out which vault it was exactly 15:27:05 two rooms with potions, fruit outside? 15:27:08 yes 15:27:09 and plants 15:27:10 yep 15:27:11 yes 15:27:16 blue_anna_alchemist you mean? 15:27:25 you're going to make me vault that? 15:27:30 how. dare. you. 15:27:30 iirc we thought it was that but also thought that vault had already been fixed? 15:27:32 Specifically the fruiting_plant subvault 15:27:35 yes 15:27:49 it's probably in the food.des thing 15:27:54 !send gammafunk food 15:27:55 Sending food to gammafunk. 15:28:19 It's definitely blue_anna_alchemist 15:29:17 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.15-a0-1879-g6ac7d81: Revert "don't eat off the floor (aef094f7fd7. 9c21a484839)" 10(6 minutes ago, 3 files, 228+ 30-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=6ac7d81753c1 15:29:19 I looked it up even though grunt didn't !vault it, because I'm a saint 15:29:19 you are basically a hero. 15:29:19 !learn add gammafunk you are basically a hero. 15:29:19 gammafunk[9/9]: you are basically a hero. 15:29:37 kept some bits of the commits 15:29:42 finally, the praise I deserve 15:29:56 e.g. the code for vampires draining inventory corpses is still gone 15:30:05 !learn edit gammafunk[9] s/$/ finally, the praise I deserve/ 15:30:05 gammafunk[9/9]: you are basically a hero. finally, the praise I deserve 15:30:38 -!- bh has joined ##crawl-dev 15:30:38 %git :/orlorn 15:30:39 07reaverb02 * 0.15-a0-1444-g269cbc3: Fix Forlorn mutation giving less antifaith at high piety 10(3 weeks ago, 1 file, 4+ 5-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=269cbc387268 15:30:57 yeah this is weird actually, I'm not sure how this subvault is made 15:30:57 reaverb was talking about un-buffing forlorn 15:31:08 I think I might do that for him 15:31:21 Grunt: fruiting_plant tag? 15:31:33 oh I see 15:31:34 sorry 15:31:38 it's 15:31:41 !vault blue_anna_fruit_fields 15:31:42 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/dat/des/builder/food.des;hb=HEAD#l54 15:31:44 IT'S 15:32:02 namely: ITEM: fruit q:7 no_mimic 15:32:34 well and SUBST: . = d .:50, " = d .:33 15:36:04 hrm, I guess like 3.7 piles on average, which actually isn't all that much 15:36:47 must have gotten a good roll 15:37:22 and I don't remember how much fruit I had going in, but it wasn't that much I think 15:37:42 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 15:38:09 dang, gitorious runnin slow today 15:38:56 I wonder if forlorn would work as a 3-level mut. make level 3 turn you into a dg, clearly 15:38:56 * Grunt zaps a wand, gitorious seems to speed up. 15:39:05 clearly! 15:39:29 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.15-a0-1880-g53e602b: Revert "Give Forlorn mutation additional anti-faith at higher piety" 10(4 minutes ago, 1 file, 0+ 8-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=53e602b668ad 15:39:55 I'd say I'm working on improving my whealsratio, but the last commit just added a bunch of code back 15:39:59 I am a failure at removing code :( 15:40:00 has anyone else been running games in trunk recently? 15:40:04 -!- CSDCS has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:40:06 playing? 15:40:19 yes. why? 15:40:23 no PleasingFungus literally running miles with copies of the code in hand 15:40:35 idk like 15:40:37 running a server 15:40:39 or something 15:40:42 well I'm wondering if hw/curing generation is a bit light 15:40:44 in early game 15:40:53 I've found exactly one hw 15:41:01 !send gammafunk Huge Wounds 15:41:02 Sending Huge Wounds to gammafunk. 15:41:07 I remember it being a little light, yeah. esp hw 15:41:08 I think I have 3 curing, but 2 game from that fruit vault 15:41:18 or - hm 15:41:20 let me check 15:41:22 !log . 15:41:23 255. PleasingFungus, XL22 DgEn, T:85648: http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/morgue/PleasingFungus/morgue-PleasingFungus-20140703-190025.txt 15:41:30 not early-game obv 15:41:38 well I mean specifically pre-lair, yeah 15:41:42 !log . - 15:41:43 No keyword '-' 15:41:44 !log . -1 15:41:45 255. PleasingFungus, XL22 DgEn, T:85648: http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/morgue/PleasingFungus/morgue-PleasingFungus-20140703-190025.txt 15:41:47 !log . -2 15:41:48 254/255. PleasingFungus, XL5 DgEn, T:4330: http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/morgue/PleasingFungus/morgue-PleasingFungus-20140702-194125.txt 15:41:50 -!- Keanan has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 15:41:57 !log . -3 15:41:58 253/255. PleasingFungus, XL5 SpAs, T:2377: http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/morgue/PleasingFungus/morgue-PleasingFungus-20140701-211442.txt 15:42:03 !send PleasingFungus splat 15:42:04 Sending splat to PleasingFungus. 15:42:10 rip.... 15:42:12 !log . -4 15:42:13 252/255. PleasingFungus, XL8 SpAs, T:6637: http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/morgue/PleasingFungus/morgue-PleasingFungus-20140701-185305.txt 15:42:13 yeah rip 15:42:33 yeah not too much curing/hw 15:42:49 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:42:57 hrm, the depth<4 condition is what we do for highlevel scrolls, but I don't think that condition is necessarilly the best for this 15:43:05 I'd go with min lair depth 15:43:20 the symmetry cost!!! 15:43:32 yeah I'd be curious to hear some other opinions as well 15:43:36 imo worry more about the PleasingFungus cost and the gammafunk cost 15:43:43 the what now 15:43:58 butbutbutbut 15:44:01