00:00:29 -!- magicpoints has joined ##crawl-dev 00:00:49 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:01:20 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 00:02:13 PleasingFungus: mainly I keep hear how wild magic is awful awful awful so its opposite should be the best thing ever, yes? 00:02:27 s/hear/&ing/ 00:02:30 that's exactly why it's less interesting! :p 00:03:23 -!- zxc232 has joined ##crawl-dev 00:03:35 reaverb: the function to look at is lose_piety() 00:03:55 since that's the what's called for normal time passage piety loss 00:04:03 -!- CSDCS has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:04:27 Grunt: would this replace wild magic? 00:06:38 supplement, probably, given he wasn't even sure it'd be a mut 00:06:57 hm. I'm still rebasing mu's code - does anyone know what monster_die() got replaced with? 00:08:08 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.15-a0-1182-g9381616 (34) 00:08:48 -!- category has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:11:14 gammafunk: I think I'll just change what faith changes. 00:11:35 Since getting slower piety gain on top of faster decay doesn't sound good :D 00:11:57 yeah 00:11:57 I've thoughten of a controlled magic effect too. 00:12:23 by change what faith changes, you mean for your mutaiton? 00:12:39 basically the reason that people bitch about wild magic, and would like controlled magic more than they should, is that spellpower doesn't really matter that much for many charms. 00:12:49 reaverb: you're not going to change faith I assume 00:12:52 gammafunk: Yes, the mutation changes what faith chagnes. 00:12:57 right 00:12:58 faith is staying the exact same. 00:13:01 sounds like a good idea 00:13:07 yeah anti-faith is cute and 00:13:12 there was an idea a while back for 00:13:16 a moth of nihilism 00:13:24 but it's too similar to silent spectre 00:13:31 Oh yes, I likeed moth of nihilsim. 00:13:33 a piety change mechanic is probably better 00:13:38 well theme wise it is nice but 00:13:44 in practice it's basically silence 00:13:47 * reaverb would prefer silent spectres's didn't interfere with divine abilities. 00:14:10 well, that's possible I suppose, but silence was the go-to thing for this kind of effect 00:14:11 -!- conted has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:14:14 I guess you could split it 00:14:20 but then silence is much less dangerous 00:14:26 and frankly it wouldn't work against monsters 00:14:35 ...I guess it might work *ok* 00:14:49 greaters could still smite you 00:14:52 but couldn't haunt/torment you 00:14:59 well even then, is torment a god ability? 00:15:09 it could be a player-only allowance I guess 00:15:35 Hmm. 00:15:47 it's complicated further by the fact that demons can't be silenced (they "gesture") 00:16:34 I don't think !sil is a good gameplay mechanic, but obviously just removing it would break silence. 00:17:09 yeah I think for silence to exist you need to have monsters with !sil 00:17:17 -!- sitnaltax has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:17:18 otherwise silence is just broken 00:17:37 On odd idea: You need more spellpower to cast it in certain locations. 00:17:48 Like Pan/Hell/Abyes etc. 00:17:55 would have to be based on ambient noise I guess 00:18:09 but spell power wouldn't be effective limitation anyhow 00:18:11 since by that time 00:18:16 you have all the spell power you need 00:18:17 -!- dtsund has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 00:18:18 So yes you can silence all the demons, but you have to put in a level 9 spell's woth of investments to do it. 00:18:27 right but in hell 00:18:28 that's easy 00:18:29 Hmm, did not know spellpower worked like that. 00:18:37 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.15-a0-1182-g9381616 (34) 00:18:39 you have so much xp under your belt 00:19:24 maybe there should be a reaverbrobin 00:19:31 like zermako, but getting him into extended instead of lair 00:19:34 how would it work 00:19:36 haha 00:19:37 Hmm. 00:19:57 I might actaully win though, which would be embarassing. 00:20:10 !zermakorobintv 00:20:11 45. zermakorobin, XL17 MiFi, T:32074 requested for FooTV (telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org). 00:20:28 shoals 00:20:32 someone cheated 00:21:00 got that rune tough 00:21:03 all that matters 00:21:05 *though 00:21:23 <3 zermako 00:22:46 Also, is it a feature for a mimic to replace the only zig portal in D? 00:23:03 Basil: I would say no. 00:23:18 or U rather 00:23:18 there are zig portals in D? 00:23:20 ah 00:23:30 if it's the only one, then no, that's probably incorrect 00:23:33 -!- Nethris has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:23:43 bug report 00:23:46 remove mimics 00:24:02 oh yeah, now that I'm a dev, I should buff mimics 00:24:07 Basil: 00:23 < Sizzell> gammafunk (L13 HEIE) found a barnacled rune of Zot. (Shoals:5) 00:24:11 ideally they should have about a 50% killratio 00:24:11 now what do you have to say 00:24:17 !lm 00:24:17 6903. [2014-05-31 05:23:57] gammafunk the Summoner (L13 HEIE of Sif Muna) found a barnacled rune of Zot on turn 10681. (Shoals:5) 00:24:26 pretty good time 00:24:33 Hope you get necromut 00:24:35 that's my fastest ever 00:24:40 !lm gammafunk x=dur 00:24:41 6903. [2014-05-31 05:23:57] [dur=1:33:50] gammafunk the Summoner (L13 HEIE of Sif Muna) found a barnacled rune of Zot on turn 10681. (Shoals:5) 00:24:45 fast play, too 00:24:56 I play slowly actually 00:25:09 gotta have time 00:25:13 Grunt plays like a maniac 00:25:14 to flex that elf brain 00:25:31 gammafunk: an understatement 00:25:36 (re grunt) 00:25:37 -!- ToastyP has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:25:46 he plays exactly as fast as you'd expect for someone who codes that fast 00:25:47 I don't understand how anyone can play spriggans that fast 00:26:07 ??ninja[$ 00:26:07 ninja[3/3]: !hs * Sp-- I did this! 154525. Yermak the Ninja (L22 SpAs), worshipper of Dithmengos, escaped with the Orb and 15 runes 00:26:44 that's my favorite learndb appearence 00:27:02 that is... a good entry 00:28:01 wait, wtf, sif muna loses piety over time? why? has that ever been relevant to anyone? 00:28:03 I blame mummies 00:28:26 PleasingFungus: All gods except Fedhas and Chei do that. 00:28:55 and gozag and xom, of course, but they don't count 00:29:03 Yes. 00:29:13 Xom boredom ticks down over time or something 00:29:23 Yes but that's weird Xom stuff :D 00:29:35 So when's xom getting shuffle card? 00:29:49 xom needs the "change race" wizmode command 00:30:21 Xom wishes "o" 00:30:24 &o 00:30:43 Have a taste of wizardry, mortal! 00:30:45 Basil: Soon as you can implement it :D 00:31:01 fr: sometimes when worshipping xom, a dev will play with your game in wizmode 00:31:26 !learn edit basil[9] s/$/, xom shuffle and wizmode (very important) 00:31:26 Basil[9/9]: s/$/, tarantella description/, red miscast prompt option, xom shuffle and wizmode (very important) 00:31:27 Oh, hmm. 00:32:02 Remind me vaguely of the "suggestion" to have players worshipping Xom summon by monsters in Pan. 00:32:14 -!- MgDark has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 27.0/20131216183647]] 00:32:14 and have to fight for a while before leaving. 00:32:35 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 00:33:23 -!- magicpoints has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:33:35 I bet somebody is going to have a really funny reaction to this forlorn mutation. 00:33:39 xom shuffle and wizmode? intruiging 00:34:38 I haven't been keeping up on things well. is weightlesss and/or new_nemelex rolled into trunk? 00:34:43 Maybe having Xom regenerate the level occasionaly would be funny. 00:34:43 -!- Adder_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:34:48 johnstein: yep 00:34:52 johnstein: Both have been move the chunk. 00:34:53 and no item destruction 00:34:56 err, chunk. 00:34:58 .... 00:35:00 er, trunk 00:35:11 !send reaverb !restore_abilities 00:35:12 Sending !restore_abilities to reaverb. 00:35:37 oh, which reminded me 00:35:45 did no item dest even make the changelog yet? 00:35:50 I didn't see it in the wordpress post 00:35:56 it postdates that iirc 00:36:25 ah it's in there 00:36:29 It's in both. 00:36:32 oh right, inventory weight 00:36:37 that was missing from teh wordpress 00:36:49 gammafunk: Really? Hmm. 00:37:11 yeah, no big deal really 00:37:27 it's probably the single biggest change, but it's not like those posts are read by millions 00:37:48 removing item destruction is bigger I would say 00:38:01 oh. reaverb, if you see any funny code, let me know. 00:38:09 I made a dumb twitter https://twitter.com/crawlcode 00:38:09 fruit nerf 00:38:18 PleasingFungus: Normally if I see funny code I fix it. 00:38:23 well, let me know first!!! 00:38:29 or after 00:38:31 w/e 00:38:34 Maybe glance at the beam code? 00:38:36 reaverb: inventory weight removal much bigger than item dest! 00:38:51 03reaverb02 07* 0.15-a0-1183-g6b54867: Move Gozag you.faith() price adjustments to their own function 10(5 hours ago, 1 file, 11+ 6-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=6b5486722135 00:38:51 03reaverb02 07* 0.15-a0-1184-g9da5f1d: Make Gozag actually raise prices when you remove "faith 10(4 hours ago, 1 file, 2+ 34-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=9da5f1d77a1c 00:38:51 03reaverb02 07* 0.15-a0-1185-g7ad26a9: New mutation: Forlorn 10(4 hours ago, 7 files, 26+ 13-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=7ad26a9524e2 00:38:53 Maybe internally. 00:39:02 in terms of gameplay impact 00:39:11 item dest didn't have all that much of an effect 00:39:18 but the reduction in inventory juggling from no item weight 00:39:20 clearly add this to high elves. they're so snooty 00:39:26 in terms of no. of commands it affects 00:39:28 this'll show them!!!! 00:40:19 PleasingFungus: I thought Ko because they're losing some of their very few distinguishing traits (for the better) with the recent food changes and chunkless. 00:40:29 -!- demiskeleton has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:40:37 -!- crate_ is now known as crate 00:40:38 yeah I know. it's not unreasonable. 00:40:39 -!- morik has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:40:48 (The kobold thing) 00:40:52 the he suggestion was a joke. 00:41:07 Hmm. 00:41:17 -!- morik has joined ##crawl-dev 00:41:21 Did you add the twitter to the learndb somewhere? 00:41:57 maybe if it lasts longer than a night 00:42:03 we'll see how much material it actually has 00:42:05 I'm kind of sad because some bits of code you really need to see the whole picture for them to completely baffle you. 00:42:20 yeah twitter has its limits 00:42:27 ugh. clang is failing with linker errors 00:42:28 rebasing is hard 00:42:39 ew, mac person? 00:42:44 clang is great 00:42:56 however cpp is still bad 00:43:00 gammafunk, problem with mac people? ;p 00:43:23 PleasingFungus: http://www.xkcd.com/1349/ 00:43:27 -!- Kramin has quit [Client Quit] 00:44:25 not quite there yet 00:44:29 for one thing, I don't own a blowtorch 00:46:37 I... think the problem is that this destructor is defined as a virtual prototype, and then never implemented anywhere in the class itself or any of its children? 00:46:39 maybe? 00:48:18 -!- zercules has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:48:42 Maybe ask in ##c++-general ? I only really refactor the procedural bits of the code. 00:49:15 I'm fairly certain that's the problem. I just don't know how to fix it... or why it worked before. 00:49:16 ok. experimental making time. let's see if I can do this in 10 minutes this time 00:49:29 -!- Euph0ria has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:49:35 PleasingFungus, what exactly is failing? 00:49:42 chunkless or smithgod_rebased? 00:49:51 Zaba: http://pastebin.com/W3ZvKJu6 00:49:57 this is compilation 00:50:03 (of a rebased branch) 00:51:15 that's some new code, right? 00:51:29 year-old never-merged-in new code, yes :( 00:51:43 ugh, this was working a build ago. 00:51:46 -!- nrook has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 29.0.1/20140506152807]] 00:52:07 well, then some diffing should tell you what broke 00:52:18 PleasingFungus: The compilation always breaks the last time you try to compile. 00:57:48 wait, why did that compile. I didn't fix anything 00:58:06 PleasingFungus: Old .o files perhaps? 00:58:16 well I mean my strategy was 00:58:29 'git rebase --continue and hope that mu fixed his issue in a later commit' 00:58:32 and I guess he did? 00:58:35 sort of? 00:59:14 PleasingFungus: Try taking a branch with only the year old code, going to that commit, and see if that has the issue. 00:59:23 in the middle of a commit right now 00:59:27 *of a rebase 00:59:58 -!- magicpoints has joined ##crawl-dev 01:00:22 still getting move.cc:117:9: warning: delete called on 'MovementHandler' that is abstract but has non-virtual destructor [-Wdelete-non-virtual-dtor] 01:00:25 so I guess I need to fix that at some point 01:00:28 but it compiles! 01:00:38 ??chunkless 01:00:38 -!- Assbag has quit [*.net *.split] 01:00:38 I don't have a page labeled chunkless in my learndb. 01:00:50 :git :/food.des 01:00:54 %git :/food.des 01:00:54 07reaverb02 * 0.15-a0-1152-gff5b67a: Guarantee more meat perma-food though food.des vaults 10(2 days ago, 1 file, 10+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=ff5b67a4076d 01:01:07 That's the latest chunkless commit IIRC 01:03:06 -!- Keanan1 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 01:07:23 -!- st_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:07:23 -!- Vizer has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:11:19 -!- morik has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:11:30 -!- morik has joined ##crawl-dev 01:12:48 On branch movement-behaviours. Your branch and 'origin_r/movement-behaviours' have diverged, and have 7161 and 13 different commits each, respectively. 01:12:55 rebase complete. fucking finally 01:13:26 PleasingFungus: Yay! 01:13:35 now all I need to do is get it actually working 01:13:48 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 01:14:51 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Quit: Connection reset by pier.] 01:15:26 -!- advil has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 01:19:14 -!- Rotatell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:19:24 -!- Rotatell has joined ##crawl-dev 01:30:35 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 01:38:48 -!- zeia has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:39:13 Experimental (chunkless) branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.15-a0-1152-gff5b67a 01:39:52 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 32.0a1/20140524030204]] 01:40:57 %git :/carnivore 01:40:57 07Grunt02 * 0.15-a0-499-gd071c1d: Gozag: Potion Petition: offer blood to vampires and pure carnivores. 10(8 weeks ago, 1 file, 7+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=d071c1d24a6a 01:41:09 %git :/metabolism 01:41:09 07reaverb02 * 0.15-a0-772-g17fcb76: Remove Saprovorous from Ko, LO, HO, and Og 10(3 weeks ago, 3 files, 15+ 6-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=17fcb76da48e 01:41:24 johnstein: Look for anything in particular? 01:41:35 whether slow metabolism was removed 01:41:39 in chunkless 01:41:44 %git :/Ha 01:41:44 07Grunt02 * 0.15-a0-1115-g12a312a: Have clua view. funcs give return vals with out-of-bounds coords (gw). 10(3 days ago, 1 file, 9+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=12a312a68c4a 01:41:50 %git :/Ce 01:41:50 07reaverb02 * 0.15-a0-975-g6df881b: Revert "Make blurry vision mut cause scroll reading to take more time." 10(8 days ago, 3 files, 20+ 13-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=6df881bab6b4 01:41:56 %git :/slow meat 01:41:57 Could not find commit :/slow meat (git returned 128) 01:41:59 %git :/slow meta 01:42:00 07elliptic02 * 0.14-a0-1028-gfdf79a4: Decrease Gr mutation spam, modify Gr GDR formula. 10(6 months ago, 2 files, 4+ 10-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=fdf79a466cf6 01:42:04 I should jsut git log --online|grep :P 01:42:06 %git :/slow 01:42:06 07reaverb02 * 0.15-a0-1185-g7ad26a9: New mutation: Forlorn 10(5 hours ago, 7 files, 26+ 13-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=7ad26a9524e2 01:42:11 .... 01:42:22 I removed Ce and Ha special diets in Trunk already. 01:42:34 Before chunkless 01:45:18 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:46:29 Webtiles server restarted. 01:47:57 ok, chunkless should work 01:49:21 johnstein: Thanks for this :D 01:49:54 np. but like everyone says, cbro isn't that busy so you probably don't get a lot of exposure and good feedback 01:49:56 :P 01:50:06 and there's a LOT of experimentals ou there 01:50:37 I feel like I should put a 2 week window on each experimental and show the countdown 01:50:44 johnstein: Heh. 01:50:55 and then 'renew' it if it seems like it's worth keeping it around 01:50:57 Yes unless File200 brings something up soon plutonians probably won't continue. 01:51:13 I want to kill new_nemelex and weightless but I feel bad if people are playing a game currently 01:51:19 despite the experimentals warning message 01:52:33 -!- phalm has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:53:17 johnstein: If transfer the new_nemelex saves to chunkless they should still work. 01:53:23 No idea how feasible that is though. 01:53:40 yea. I'm barely qualified to run a server 01:53:44 weightless saves would probably break though. 01:53:54 and with cbro, I'm very careful about not doing anything exotic 01:54:06 I'm still untangling DBRO after chowning the chroot 01:54:24 I can play console and I can watch games on webtiles, but I can't start a game on webtiles :/ 01:55:12 What exactly is chowning? 01:55:32 -!- category has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:56:16 changer owner of a file 01:56:25 Ah, yes. 01:56:42 and I know chroot is changing the root directory. 01:56:54 heh, well 01:57:08 that's not really what chroot does, at least not in a specific sense 01:57:13 Yes actually that doesn't make sense in context. 01:57:48 -!- Limulus has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:58:19 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 01:59:24 -!- ZRN has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:59:46 no, the chroot is basically a parallel instal 01:59:51 install 02:01:16 apparently, according to a buddy helping me untangle DBRO, the way we are using the chroot for crawl servers isn't terribly secure and not the typical usage (according to him). But I have no clue how accurate that statement is. 02:01:50 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:01:50 -!- rast- has joined ##crawl-dev 02:01:52 -!- rast- is now known as rast 02:02:27 Hmm. 02:09:25 Bug: If you use a scroll of rebrand weapon on a weapon which you are not holding the brand is not identified. 02:09:57 Might be worth noting I have never wielded this weapon before because I have a cursed dagger and no ?rc 02:10:55 (The bug, btw, is that you can tell from the message. 02:10:57 ) 02:17:43 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.15-a0-1185-g7ad26a9 (34) 02:19:49 -!- sgiratch has quit [Changing host] 02:20:42 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 02:37:25 ??item_level 02:37:25 I don't have a page labeled item_level in my learndb. 02:37:28 ??item 02:37:29 I don't have a page labeled item in my learndb. 02:37:52 gammafunk: What are you looking for? 02:38:16 values for | and * 02:38:47 grepping for GOOD_ITEM etc. might help 02:39:02 well I found that but it's more 02:39:10 I need to see what the final item_level actually is 02:39:43 aha 02:41:57 -!- category has quit [Client Quit] 02:42:15 Hmm, is there a way to identify just the brand of a weapon? 02:42:23 -!- morik has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:42:34 -!- morik has joined ##crawl-dev 02:42:55 -!- Keanan1 has joined ##crawl-dev 02:47:07 -!- magicpoints has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:50:00 -!- blabber has joined ##crawl-dev 02:51:13 -!- eb_ has quit [] 02:51:52 not in wiz mode 02:52:39 gammafunk: Well I meant in the code. 02:52:51 I think I found it though. 02:52:54 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 02:53:11 -!- Butts has quit [Client Quit] 03:00:36 03reaverb02 07* 0.15-a0-1186-g6251032: Always formally identify the brand of a weapon on rebranding 10(6 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=62510320920f 03:09:16 -!- Oneiromancer has quit [Quit: Oneiromancer] 03:20:29 -!- Yermak has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:23:00 -!- nht has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 03:23:15 -!- nht_ is now known as nht 03:28:48 -!- simmarine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:30:28 -!- rchandra has left ##crawl-dev 03:32:17 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:32:52 -!- reaverb has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 03:32:54 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 03:39:56 -!- raskol has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 03:40:29 -!- BlackrayJack has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 03:43:40 -!- morik has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:44:13 -!- morik has joined ##crawl-dev 03:45:37 !lg reaverb ikiller=~worm s=ikiller 03:45:37 One game for reaverb (ikiller=~worm): a worm 03:45:47 !lg reaverb ikiller=~slug s=ikiller 03:45:48 No games for reaverb (ikiller=~slug). 03:46:01 !lg reaverb ikiller=~devil s=ikiller 03:46:01 No games for reaverb (ikiller=~devil). 03:46:11 someone isn't trying hard enough 03:53:38 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:56:26 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: Rebooting...] 03:56:50 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Quit: Drowning in a sea of anguish] 03:58:14 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 03:59:15 -!- rast has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 04:00:18 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 04:03:27 -!- rast- has joined ##crawl-dev 04:05:08 -!- rast has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 04:05:20 -!- rast- is now known as rast 04:09:12 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 04:12:22 -!- edlothiol has joined ##crawl-dev 04:12:23 -!- nooodl has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 04:13:06 -!- Hailley has quit [Quit: Petra is closed!] 04:14:03 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 04:22:46 -!- nooodl has joined ##crawl-dev 04:30:22 -!- tkappleton1 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:32:27 -!- MDvedh has quit [Quit: Page closed] 04:32:27 -!- MrWookums has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:32:27 -!- conted has quit [Quit: Page closed] 04:32:27 -!- koil has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:32:27 -!- Zooty has quit [Quit: Page closed] 04:39:52 -!- oxens has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 04:39:52 -!- SkaryMonk1 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 04:39:52 -!- Cheibriados has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 04:42:30 -!- Cheibriados has joined ##crawl-dev 04:42:30 -!- The topic of ##crawl-dev is: Crawl Development | Logs: http://s-z.org/crawl-dev/ | People with +v have commit access. | Please keep general Crawl-related chit-chat to ##crawl. | Dev wiki: http://crawl.develz.org/wiki | Long stuff to pastebin.ca please | Immortal Warwalrus and Crazy Yiuf forever. 04:42:31 -!- The topic of ##crawl is: Check out new European server at ??clan! | Play Crawl online now: type ??cao, ??cdo, ??cszo, ??clan, or ??webtiles for instructions | http://crawl.develz.org | FooTV: termcast.develz.org | ##crawl-offtopic: You got your gender in my peanut butter! 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11:46:23 I just joined Makh, prayed over a corpse, and instant 6* piety?? 11:49:18 <|amethyst> what kind of corpse? 11:49:26 -!- PsyMar has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:52:32 rat 11:52:36 haha 11:52:37 mantis should hit shortly 11:52:48 must have been an epic fight 11:52:50 including the save 11:52:54 Makkhled was impressed 11:53:04 *Makhleb 11:53:22 works for me with any corpse it looks like 11:53:51 * geekosaur pokes Chei 11:54:02 instant 6* piety from Makhleb?? by geekosaur 11:54:02 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=8620 11:54:18 <|amethyst> geekosaur: you can do that, you know 11:54:22 <|amethyst> ??cheipoke 11:54:22 cheipoke[1/1]: http://s-z.org/cgi-bin/cheipoke 11:55:06 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 11:57:17 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:00:16 <|amethyst> hm 12:00:42 <|amethyst> trying to decide between writing 0.05 or 1/20.0 in a patch 12:01:01 <|amethyst> I guess I'll go with the latter 12:02:07 what's the context? 12:02:56 -!- FVG_ has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 12:02:56 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: replacing a one_chance_in(20) 12:03:07 ah 12:03:10 that sounds reasonable, then 12:03:13 -!- TAS-2012v has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:03:51 |amethyst: that's 1 / 20.0 I hope 12:04:27 it's inexact anyway >_> 12:05:09 <|amethyst> oh 12:05:21 <|amethyst> I think I have an idea about geekosaur's problem maybe? 12:05:37 <|amethyst> it would explain why I can't reproduce it but marvinpa can reliably 12:06:47 looks like there've been about five distinct changes to mon-project.cc in the last year. that's not too bad. 12:06:59 |amethyst: this is the makh 6* thing? 12:07:03 <|amethyst> yeah 12:07:17 what do you think it is? 12:07:27 <|amethyst> uninitialised variable 12:07:40 niiiiice 12:07:48 when was the last time somebody ran crawl under valgrind? 12:07:50 why didn't floatingatoll warn us!?!? 12:07:59 <|amethyst> it's a new one :) 12:08:03 that'd do it 12:08:17 would explain why nobody else noticed it; my builds are a bit different 12:08:19 <|amethyst> Zaba: I do so occasionally, but only when I'm looking for something in particular 12:08:24 ah 12:09:11 03|amethyst02 07* 0.15-a0-1196-gc039033: Use a distribution instead of several random rolls. 10(10 minutes ago, 1 file, 7+ 8-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=c0390336e72f 12:09:11 03|amethyst02 07* 0.15-a0-1197-g8d10a0c: Fix an uninitialised variable (#8620) 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=8d10a0c49461 12:09:11 03|amethyst02 07* 0.15-a0-1198-ge77763c: Staticalise a function. 10(26 seconds ago, 1 file, 7+ 7-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=e77763ce3d47 12:09:13 oh nice, is it some ridiculous amount of effective faith 12:09:32 <|amethyst> MarvinPA: yeah 12:09:37 that's an obvious one 12:09:43 heh 12:09:44 oh 12:09:57 did the soulless mut go in? 12:10:01 i got 91 pages of oka gifts when i repro'd it locally 12:10:10 that'd be fun to get online 12:10:11 heh 12:10:17 ...91 pages? 12:10:34 in the pickup menu 12:10:49 |amethyst: o_O... I swear that's how I wrote that Gozag code originally (though maybe I changed it somehow afterwards??) 12:11:04 * Senjai is cloning crawl today 12:11:16 (or maybe I'm thinking of something else) 12:11:23 <|amethyst> gammafunk: I went without the spaces. I would have included them if it were x / 20.0 12:11:25 reaverb rewrote the gozag faith adjusted price code 12:11:33 so maybe that's how it became destaticalized? 12:11:34 <|amethyst> gammafunk: but I think "1/20.0" is as much of a constant as 5e-2 12:11:47 yeah I guess you're right 12:11:49 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: I think Grunt means the bernoulli thing? 12:12:11 o. idk 12:12:49 !send Grunt infinite loops 12:12:49 Sending infinite loops to Grunt. 12:12:49 <|amethyst> since the faith function is new 12:12:56 <|amethyst> faith cost adjustment I mean 12:13:14 <|amethyst> s/cost/price/ 12:13:29 "Staticalise", good word 12:13:34 it is! 12:13:44 I bet my spell check would love it 12:13:47 <|amethyst> statical int foo 12:14:01 nice! I got my DBRO working again 12:14:01 <|amethyst> oh hey 12:14:01 That's totaly statical bro 12:14:05 <|amethyst> if you google for staticalise 12:14:09 I kept missing setuid and setgids 12:14:19 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.15-a0-1199-gbc2dfad: Remove some unused handling for Nemelex item sacrifices 10(13 minutes ago, 2 files, 1+ 18-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=bc2dfad1e5be 12:14:23 <|amethyst> You get two of my commits at top 12:14:56 untangling that mess is no fun. |amethyst be sure to add me to the list of suckers who had to deal with that and survive, the next time someone else makes a boneheaded move like that 12:15:42 <|amethyst> johnstein: I've heard horror stories of people doing that to a running system 12:15:55 <|amethyst> johnstein: I mean, to the host, not just a chroot 12:16:05 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 12:16:13 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.15-a0-1195-g6f8b3a6 (34) 12:16:21 <|amethyst> hahah 12:16:29 <|amethyst> maybe CAO should be rebuilt 12:16:37 <|amethyst> so that insane piety doesn't go live :) 12:16:42 yeah 12:16:53 <|amethyst> Started 12:17:06 sounds like you could reach the level item cap pretty fast with oka and that bug 12:17:12 |amethyst: yea, during my research I read many of those horror stories. 12:17:22 although I'm not actually sure how low the cap is 12:17:35 <|amethyst> MAX_ITEMS is 2000 12:17:42 |amethyst: it was looking kinda grim for a while. I am lucky that CBRO was untouched so I had a good template to compare to 12:17:43 <|amethyst> not sure if something would cap below that or not 12:18:11 <|amethyst> johnstein: Probably reinstalling all of your .debs would have been a reasonable start 12:18:20 <|amethyst> johnstein: that would at least cover all the non-crawl-specific stuff 12:18:33 <|amethyst> but it's not as educational! :) 12:18:55 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.15-a0-1199-gbc2dfad (34) 12:20:46 |amethyst: yea, I figured there would have been a shorter way of doing it 12:21:21 <|amethyst> hm, https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=8617 12:21:23 the key nugged of educational goodness was learning that chown resets setuid and setgid (for good reasons apparently). 12:21:43 <|amethyst> Is that font in directory ttf-dejavu or just dejavu in Debian 12:21:49 <|amethyst> (the bug is from an Ubuntu user) 12:21:57 <|amethyst> johnstein: yeah 12:22:52 <|amethyst> for #8595 (-dir doesn't override DATA_DIR), does it make sense to have a -data-dir CLO, or is that potentially dangerous? 12:23:50 <|amethyst> I am thinking in particular of the case where crawl is installed setgid (does anyone actually do that?) 12:24:53 -!- Amnesiac has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 12:28:08 -!- FVG has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 12:29:17 -!- BlackrayJack has quit [Client Quit] 12:32:07 -!- Arkaniad has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:34:59 -!- nrook has joined ##crawl-dev 12:35:58 anyone know what the pre-c++11 lock class is? 12:36:00 nrook: noob 12:36:09 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:36:20 it's very difficult to search for, since all my queries are just returning nice c++11 concurrency primitives I can't use 12:36:53 -!- raskol has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:37:12 <|amethyst> you mean standard one? 12:37:17 yeah 12:37:17 <|amethyst> Was there one pre-C++11? 12:37:25 uh, "I hope so"? 12:37:25 what are you trying to achieve? :P 12:37:33 <|amethyst> what kind of lock anyway? 12:38:06 <|amethyst> pre C++11 you used your OS's C primitives, or maybe boost or another C++ thread library 12:38:19 I'd like to run initialization code once, lazily, and protect against the possibility that my function is called multiple times from different threads simultaneously 12:40:00 crawl only uses threads in the database loading code 12:40:41 impressive pauses in this game when I do something with a chance of gaining piety (still playing the pre-fix game). wonder how long before it crashes? 12:40:52 or the piety wraps and I get excommunicated 12:41:00 actually, threads.h provides the cross-platform shim for threads and related primitives that you would be looking for 12:41:45 but there's little point in worrying about that in crawl's code 12:42:58 ha, so I should just do my "is this initialized" check without any concurrency primitives, and just add a // NOT THREAD-SAFE in front of the function 12:42:59 ok 12:43:01 thanks! 12:43:11 it doesn't matter, nothing is thread-safe in crawl 12:43:20