00:00:01 my local qw has a much better winrate. clearly superior 00:00:46 -!- Almacia has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:00:58 -!- MgDark has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 27.0/20131216183647]] 00:00:59 <|amethyst> !tell elliptic not sure what your min is, but PleasingFungus managed to accidentally get a 10-minute qw win while testing something offline with an unthrottled qw 00:00:59 |amethyst: OK, I'll let elliptic know. 00:01:10 -!- CSDCScripter has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:01:20 <|amethyst> !lg qw s=dur 00:01:20 676 games for qw: 7x 0:00:57, 6x 0:01:13, 6x 0:00:53, 6x 0:01:46, 5x 0:01:01, 5x 0:05:07, 5x 0:01:11, 5x 0:03:47, 5x 0:01:21, 5x 0:00:30, 5x 0:02:53, 4x 0:01:23, 4x 0:03:48, 4x 0:01:31, 4x 0:00:38, 4x 0:02:04, 4x 0:01:38, 4x 0:00:56, 4x 0:02:44, 4x 0:01:02, 4x 0:01:18, 4x 0:00:40, 4x 0:01:22, 4x 0:01:43, 4x 0:01:37, 4x 0:01:28, 4x 0:02:26, 4x 0:00:33, 3x 0:00:47, 3x 0:03:59, 3x 0:03:13, 3x 0:03:14... 00:01:26 !lg qw s=dur won 00:01:27 <|amethyst> err 00:01:27 3 games for qw (won): 2x 0:45:16, 0:50:18 00:01:31 -!- Raster_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:01:33 <|amethyst> yeah, that 00:01:33 throttled, ofc 00:03:06 hm. gonna push the lk_open() change (strchr(mode, '+')) 00:03:22 since it doesn't seem to be crashing anything, and also it's nice 00:05:46 <|amethyst> well, it has no effect currently :) 00:06:16 the fear is that it *might* have an effect! 00:06:20 but it's simple enough... 00:06:31 and a test of a function that called it didn't do anything amiss 00:07:38 -!- NeremWorld has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:08:18 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.15-a0-1022-g33abf97 (34) 00:09:11 -!- CSDCScripter has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:09:39 i think he can win with 2-3 minutes or something? 00:09:43 ??qw 00:09:43 qw[1/3]: A fully automated lua bot written by elliptic, with some code borrowed from parabolic and xw. See "!lg qw won 2" for a completely uninterrupted and unassisted win (from the 0.14 tourney). 00:09:49 ??qw[2 00:09:49 qw[2/3]: Branch order: D -> Lair:8 -> Orc:3 -> D:15 -> S:5 -> Vaults:4 -> Depths:5 -> S:5 -> Vaults:5 -> Zot 00:09:50 ??qw[3 00:09:50 qw[3/3]: On the online servers, qw plays with an extra added delay so that it doesn't use too much server CPU. Playing locally without this delay, qw is much faster: http://bpaste.net/raw/195459/ 00:09:57 yes, 2:01 00:10:04 Technically we can put qw to an almost arbitary speed. 00:10:04 <|amethyst> nice 00:10:04 noice 00:10:08 clearly I need a faster computer 00:10:11 If we put it on some super computer. 00:11:00 <|amethyst> I wonder if that was with something like >/dev/null 2>&1 00:11:24 -!- home has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:11:44 oh yeah I forgot 00:12:01 should cherry-pick the 0-byte ghost fix 00:14:25 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.15-a0-1023-g3798112: Cleanup lk_open() 10(7 minutes ago, 1 file, 11+ 5-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=3798112249fd 00:14:27 -!- dtsund has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 00:14:27 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 00:14:52 -!- DrCrypt has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 00:15:25 -!- Nerem has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:17:58 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 00:18:31 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.15-a0-1023-g3798112 (34) 00:18:57 -!- CSDCScripter has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:20:28 ...oh, looks like that didn't actually happen in the old code 00:21:07 <|amethyst> that's what I meant by "has no effect currently" 00:21:13 <|amethyst> no one calls it with r+ 00:21:17 -!- NeremWorld has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 00:21:30 no, I mean, the old code didn't actually crash when encountering 0-byte ghosts 00:22:29 -!- Nerem has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 00:22:34 which is... weird 00:22:51 oh wait no I figured it out, I was in the wrong place 00:23:42 -!- ebarrett has quit [] 00:26:31 -!- Perryman has quit [] 00:26:57 -!- NeremWorld has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 00:27:17 -!- CSDCScripter has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:29:40 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.15-a0-1024-g45708ce: Don't die when encountering 0-byte ghost files 10(8 days ago, 3 files, 17+ 12-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=45708ce3bb43 00:29:42 Oddify Lemuel's Castle by Cheibrodos 00:30:23 only acceptable if the moat is occasionally replaced by draconians 00:33:07 -!- morik has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:35:42 -!- CSDCScripter has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:36:12 -!- notcluie has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:39:27 -!- hurdos has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 00:46:31 -!- CSDCScripter has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:47:05 -!- Nomi has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 00:47:28 -!- rchandra has left ##crawl-dev 00:55:12 it's literally impossible to fix that vault without destroying space-time 00:55:21 I tried telling cheibrodos that 00:55:45 a vault large enough for its own file. beautiful 00:56:13 how does absdepth interact with Depths? 00:56:25 Will the < 27 stuff ever show up, now? 00:56:45 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Quit: Connection reset by pier.] 00:57:14 absdepth doesn't actually mean your distance from the surface 00:57:15 -!- jeanjacques has quit [Quit: quit] 00:57:21 Depths:1's absdepth is 22, iirc? 00:57:26 yes 00:57:27 Maybe 23? 00:57:34 22 00:57:37 see, that's why I asked 00:58:24 PleasingFungus: btw, "don't die" <3 00:58:37 ? 00:58:45 %git 00:58:46 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.15-a0-1024-g45708ce: Don't die when encountering 0-byte ghost files 10(8 days ago, 3 files, 17+ 12-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=45708ce3bb43 00:58:50 o 00:58:53 that wasn't even intentional! 00:59:02 Even better! 00:59:04 haha 00:59:15 -!- CSDCScripter has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:00:37 unrelated question: what'd be the right way to make the game refer to a monster's weapon using the possessive? ("the kobold's dagger twitches...") 01:01:09 I can get the weapon description, but I'm not sure how to generate the possessive for a monster 01:03:58 <|amethyst> apostrophise(mons->name(DESC_THE)) 01:04:13 <|amethyst> there should be a better way to do this 01:04:17 -!- Nerem has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:05:15 <|amethyst> Assuming it's definitely a monster and not a player 01:05:24 monster, yes 01:05:47 <|amethyst> I'm sure there are edge cases where that's bad 01:06:01 <|amethyst> but those would already result in bad messages elsewhere 01:06:02 looks Good Enough for now 01:06:05 thanks! 01:06:50 <|amethyst> I guess there's the issue of artefacts 01:07:08 <|amethyst> since we don't put "your" or "its" on those elsewhere 01:07:38 in this case it's actually just "the foo's twitch" 01:08:24 artefacts would end up "vibrating crazily for a moment" 01:08:33 well, "vibrate[s]", but w/e 01:08:47 -!- surprisetrex has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:10:15 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 01:11:28 -!- CSDCScripter has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:13:38 -!- Moonsilence has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:19:33 -!- CSDCScripter has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:22:26 Hmm, if you set qazlal ac duration in wiz mode it doesn't change your AC color unless you reload. 01:24:51 Oh, it probably has to redraw. Should have tried casting phase shift or something. 01:24:54 i imagine that is the case for any duration that changes the hud 01:25:08 MarvinPA: It works for status lights. 01:25:24 <|amethyst> yes, status lights work differently 01:25:33 <|amethyst> stoneskin probably has the same problem 01:25:41 those aren't redrawn like the rest of the hud 01:27:01 -!- Roarke has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:30:11 I keep swearing someone is dev here and active on #ludumdare too...but I can'tput my finger on who... 01:30:44 -!- CSDCScripter has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:31:17 -!- rast- has joined ##crawl-dev 01:31:18 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:31:18 -!- rast- is now known as rast 01:32:15 03reaverb02 07* 0.15-a0-1025-g2fd031d: Make status lights iterate over statuses 10(5 minutes ago, 2 files, 7+ 109-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=2fd031def874 01:32:36 Heh, if I do this a couple more times I'll probably end up with a negative total lines commmited. 01:32:48 noble and good 01:33:10 I'm kinda surprised nobody has tried to remove those hardcoded arrays before. 01:33:34 <|amethyst> that one was kind of important 01:33:40 <|amethyst> since it determines the order of status lights 01:33:51 |amethyst: Oh, so is enum order bad for some reason? 01:34:18 -!- Keanan has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 01:34:33 It leaves all the Qazlal stuff together, for instance. 01:35:01 <|amethyst> well, enums can't be ordered by importance 01:35:14 <|amethyst> not that we do that consistently 01:36:23 |amethyst: I'm not sure how to weigh making it easier to add durations and having the flexibility to change the status order. I doubt this will cause any problems, if something does show up I'll revert the commit. 01:36:48 I guess hunger status might appear in an odd place. 01:39:27 -!- CSDCScripter has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:39:29 -!- LarsH_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:40:03 -!- NeremWorld has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:43:12 -!- Kramin has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:43:49 Basically the only statuses I can see which need to be near the stop are hunger, 0 stat, pertification/paralysis, Tele, Death's Door, and Quad Damage. 01:44:07 That might look like a few but there were around 100 entries on that list. 01:44:45 The Qazlal statuses should probably also be next to each other and that's the only other case I can see. 01:44:52 stuff like tele being at the top seems pretty important yes 01:46:34 -!- Yermak has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:46:44 Ok, I'll reimplement the ability to hardcode a few top differant status lights at the top. Should I revert that commit in the meantime? 01:46:55 -!- hurdos has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:47:41 <|amethyst> hm 01:48:02 -!- CSDCScripter has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:48:05 <|amethyst> if it were just durations and not the mix of durations and statuses, you could do something like use the order of duration_data[] 01:48:18 <|amethyst> since that can be reordered arbitrarily 01:49:00 |amethyst: That's true. The whole system should be changed. But I think just hardcoded 7-10 statuses would be best for now. 01:49:46 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 32.0a1/20140522030204]] 01:51:08 -!- DrCrypt has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:52:22 -!- Vizer has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:53:06 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 01:56:05 -!- DrCrypt has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:57:42 -!- CSDCScripter has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:01:46 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 02:02:37 -!- BlackrayJack has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:06:05 -!- DrCrypt has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:06:59 -!- ActinalWhomp has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:08:30 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 02:09:10 -!- CSDCScripter has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:12:13 -!- Bcadren has quit [Quit: Don't push the red button!] 02:17:19 Experimental (new_nemelex) branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.15-a0-767-g2ec6ac8 02:18:53 -!- CSDCScripter has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:19:12 -!- SkaryMonk has joined ##crawl-dev 02:23:39 Ok, I have the alternative which has the best of both worlds functioning, now I just need to clean it up a bit. 02:23:50 (Wow, and hour? hmm) 02:24:03 -!- Nethris has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 02:24:16 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.15-a0-1025-g2fd031d (34) 02:24:33 Oh, hmm, I'll rebuild cbro when I push this fix. 02:24:39 -!- Keanan has joined ##crawl-dev 02:26:37 -!- hurdos has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 02:28:05 -!- CSDCScripter has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:34:16 Ok, I'll push my slighlty hacky fix, rebuild cbro, than clean my fix up and push again. 02:35:36 <|amethyst> no rush 02:35:44 |amethyst: Hmm, Ok. 02:36:51 -!- CSDCScripter has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:37:22 How does this list of statuses to always place first look? 02:37:22 http://bpaste.net/show/3dwynOWDVaoBEtcWMuWX/ 02:37:59 <|amethyst> I'd keep burden early too 02:38:48 |amethyst: Hmm, I almost put that in but weightless will merge within the next week or so. 02:39:07 <|amethyst> I suppose that's true 02:39:57 berserk probably 02:40:21 Ok, berserk too. 02:40:46 A few of the old ones were weird, confusion was nowhere near the top, for example. 02:42:01 speed too maybe 02:43:03 and exh with speed if so i guess 02:47:41 -!- Kramin has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:50:58 -!- CSDCScripter has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:51:29 Yes, I'll add Berserk, fast, slow, and exh. 02:53:07 -!- broquaint has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 02:58:39 -!- broquaint has joined ##crawl-dev 02:59:38 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:00:16 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 03:00:35 -!- CSDCScripter has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:00:53 -!- Kramin has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:01:52 -!- radinms has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 03:03:40 -!- simmarine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:04:00 -!- RZX has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:04:18 -!- Limulus has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:08:30 Build failed on OpenSuse <=12.3 by bemyak 03:08:50 Ok, here's the new list: http://bpaste.net/show/PZwi3CTN4Dc7txFODT9A/ 03:09:13 STATUS_SPEED is Fast+Slow, I kinda feel the new version has too much going on. 03:09:51 it's a small issue, but burden should get reasonable priority so long as weightless isn't merged 03:10:25 HUD priority isn't going to ruin anyones game (I hope), so again it's not a big deal 03:10:30 gammafunk: Heh, I guess I'll add it since |amethyst mentioned it too. 03:10:42 reaverb: Add it or I quit! 03:10:44 and I said "well weightless is going to be merged in a couple days..." 03:11:01 yeah, I'm doing the final rebase now 03:11:06 it's "fun" 03:11:14 -!- CSDCScripter has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:11:27 Are you going to push it in the next coupld hours? 03:11:36 It kind of is, I guess, but this is a lot of surgery since so many commits become obsolete 03:11:39 no 03:11:46 I'm thinking maybe late tomorrow 03:17:31 -!- hurdos has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:18:00 03reaverb02 07* 0.15-a0-1026-g2a25520: Always place some statuses first on the status line 10(54 minutes ago, 1 file, 46+ 9-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=2a25520ee462 03:18:35 -!- CSDCScripter has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:25:03 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.15-a0-1026-g2a25520 (34) 03:26:03 -!- CSDCScripter has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:29:59 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 03:31:15 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:31:28 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 03:33:12 -dir option ignored by bemyak 03:34:02 -!- CSDCScripter has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:37:29 -!- caleba has quit [Quit: caleba] 03:43:20 -!- CSDCScripter has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:44:40 -!- somebody has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 03:45:51 -!- SkaryMonk2 has joined ##crawl-dev 03:47:00 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 03:47:05 -!- SkaryMonk has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:49:13 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 03:49:59 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:50:25 -!- CSDCScripter has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:02:00 -!- CSDCScripter has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:04:55 Is there any particular oder the @ blurb line needs to be in? 04:07:52 -!- hurdos has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 04:08:50 03reaverb02 07* 0.15-a0-1027-g4eee099: Remove a trace of Ko disease resistance 10(4 minutes ago, 1 file, 0+ 4-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=4eee09965566 04:09:00 -!- drachereborn has joined ##crawl-dev 04:09:59 !tell PleasingFungus Congrats! 04:10:00 drachereborn: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 04:10:39 !tell dpeg Somehow the equipgod wiki page name got changed to "Piety" 04:10:39 drachereborn: OK, I'll let dpeg know. 04:11:32 -!- drachereborn has quit [Client Quit] 04:15:35 -!- Mateji has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:16:13 -!- CSDCScripter has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:16:44 -!- category has quit [Quit: Page closed] 04:17:37 -!- hurdos has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 04:19:18 -!- Spatzist has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:20:45 -!- Keanan has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 04:20:59 -!- reaverb has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 04:25:19 -!- Patashu_ has joined ##crawl-dev 04:25:19 -!- Patashu has quit [Disconnected by services] 04:28:23 -!- Stendarr has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 04:28:43 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:29:22 -!- CSDCScripter has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:30:12 -!- Nerem has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 04:34:13 -!- NeremWorld has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:39:48 -!- CSDCScripter has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:46:10 -!- CSDCScripter has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:53:51 -!- CSDCScripter has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:54:52 -!- NeremWorld has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 04:54:54 -!- kait has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:56:23 -!- Nerem has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 05:00:26 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:04:11 -!- NeremWorld has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 05:04:44 -!- CSDCScripter has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:05:44 -!- bmfx has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 05:09:35 -!- andrewhl has quit [Quit: andrewhl] 05:11:47 -!- LarsH has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 05:14:52 -!- SomeoneAwful has quit [Quit: Leaving] 05:17:48 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:18:14 -!- CSDCScripter has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:31:24 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:31:42 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 05:33:31 -!- Davens has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:34:18 -!- CSDCScripter has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:34:23 -!- HellTiger_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:36:56 -!- Lasty1 has joined ##crawl-dev 05:38:44 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 05:41:38 -!- KurzedMetal has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:43:31 -!- Aryth has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:45:31 -!- SkaryMonk has joined ##crawl-dev 05:46:50 -!- SkaryMonk2 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 05:46:51 -!- CSDCScripter has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:01:32 -!- CSDCScripter has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:19:07 -!- Quashie has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:20:46 -!- CSDCScripter has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:45:48 -!- Nobuharu has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:53:48 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:55:16 -!- CSDCScripter has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:08:21 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:18:40 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 07:24:07 -!- ldf has joined ##crawl-dev 07:24:59 -!- CSDCScripter has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:31:35 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:31:56 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 07:32:12 -!- CSDCScripter has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:34:06 -!- Kintak has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:40:23 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 07:45:35 -!- CSDCScripter has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:46:22 -!- Froboctopus has joined ##crawl-dev 07:46:27 -!- Froboctopus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 07:46:53 -!- SkaryMonk2 has joined ##crawl-dev 07:47:43 -!- Froboctopus_ has joined ##crawl-dev 07:48:13 -!- SkaryMonk has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 07:48:34 -!- phosphorescence has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:50:32 Hello everyone. Can i ask some questions about in-game files? 07:51:43 -!- Froboctopus has quit [Client Quit] 07:51:52 Froboctopus_: don't ask to ask, just ask 07:51:52 TZer0: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 07:51:54 !messages 07:51:55 (1/1) somebody said (11h 40m 28s ago): Very nice. :) 07:52:21 Froboctopus_: just.. don't expect an answer the moment you ask the question, a lot of people are afk (and leave their clients running 24/7) 07:52:30 Okey, look. I want to make a localization to another language. I can rewrite most texts, but some of these i just can't find. For example: i want to make a translation for @brands@ section, but i really don't know where is files with these texts. 07:52:53 then you probably came to the right place to ask 07:53:06 I'm probably not the right person to answer that question though 07:54:12 Ok, i see. I'm not in a hurry, so i can wait for a right people who know how to help me c: 07:55:31 -!- Furril has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 07:56:27 -!- edlothiol has joined ##crawl-dev 07:57:41 -!- CSDCScripter has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:59:16 -!- iFurril has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 08:07:23 -!- TheMattybee has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:07:24 -!- Lasty1 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 08:14:06 -!- Lasty1 has joined ##crawl-dev 08:14:35 -!- CSDCScripter has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:14:43 -!- Patashu_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:16:19 -!- Froboctopus_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 08:21:01 -!- CSDCMorgueScript has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:21:18 -!- froboctopus has joined ##crawl-dev 08:24:13 -!- CSDCMS has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:26:39 -!- CSDCScripter has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:29:33 -!- Roarke has quit [Quit: Page closed] 08:33:14 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 08:35:08 -!- phalm has joined ##crawl-dev 08:35:38 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 08:39:20 !function drop_spoiled_chunks 08:39:21 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/food.cc;hb=HEAD#l2483 08:41:23 -!- CSDCScripter has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:41:31 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 08:42:04 -!- scummos^ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:47:07 -!- radinms has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:48:53 -!- CSDCScripter has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:50:23 -!- scummos^ has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 08:51:53 -!- scummos^ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:52:46 -!- LeStahL has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 08:53:57 -!- CSDCMS has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:54:27 -!- scummos^ has quit [Client Quit] 08:57:07 -!- StahL has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 09:03:02 -!- CSDCScripter has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:05:29 -!- scummos^ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 09:07:36 -!- casmith789 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:09:17 -!- StahL has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 09:12:15 -!- scummos^ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 09:12:56 -!- CSDCScripter has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:14:00 -!- LarsH_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 09:14:13 -!- StahL has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:16:25 -!- ldf has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:19:01 -!- StahL has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 09:19:57 I just got a Lua error message while playing trunk. How do I report that? 09:22:19 -!- hurdos has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:22:58 ??mantis 09:22:59 mantis[1/1]: To report bugs or submit new content like vaults, patches or tiles, go to: http://crawl.develz.org/mantis/main_page.php 09:23:05 ^ 09:24:37 thanks 09:26:37 how do I get the product version? 09:27:08 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 09:27:09 nevermind, found it 09:27:30 -!- Mateji has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 09:29:06 -!- CSDCScripter has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:29:59 Lua error message when entering new floor by phalm 09:32:09 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:32:12 -!- rast- has joined ##crawl-dev 09:32:14 -!- rast- is now known as rast 09:34:47 %git :/octagon 09:34:48 07Grunt02 * 0.15-a0-880-g8b714b4: Some adjustments to Snake layout_concentric_octagons. 10(10 days ago, 1 file, 14+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=8b714b41217f 09:35:03 Hostile Pulsating Lamp cannot be attacked with Jiyva by Sandman25 09:36:23 !tell Grunt looks like fb4abd64aff2195 is causing lua errors (8596) 09:36:24 PleasingFungus: OK, I'll let grunt know. 09:36:53 -!- BlackrayJack has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 09:37:13 New branch created: weightless_rebase (8 commits) 09:37:14 03gammafunk02 07[weightless_rebase] * 0.15-a0-1028-gffca83c: Don't have Jiyva tend to reduce strength based on burden 10(2 weeks ago, 1 file, 24+ 13-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=ffca83c0f65e 09:37:14 03wheals02 {gammafunk} 07[weightless_rebase] * 0.15-a0-1029-g4224d67: Don't make dancing weapon stats dependent on mass. 10(12 days ago, 1 file, 13+ 18-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=4224d672e330 09:37:14 03wheals02 {gammafunk} 07[weightless_rebase] * 0.15-a0-1030-gbfb481c: Remove two checks based on item mass. 10(12 days ago, 2 files, 15+ 10-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=bfb481cf61c8 09:37:14 03wheals02 {gammafunk} 07[weightless_rebase] * 0.15-a0-1031-gbcaae56: Make apportation not depend on item mass at all. 10(12 days ago, 1 file, 2+ 34-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=bcaae56e6d1a 09:37:14 03gammafunk02 07[weightless_rebase] * 0.15-a0-1032-g0972e42: Don't use inventory weight for the chance of activating a shaft trap 10(10 days ago, 8 files, 4+ 23-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=0972e4240822 09:37:14 03gammafunk02 07[weightless_rebase] * 0.15-a0-1033-gac8dc21: Remove player burden and carrying capacity 10(4 hours ago, 44 files, 111+ 555-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=ac8dc2142cfb 09:37:14 03gammafunk02 07[weightless_rebase] * 0.15-a0-1034-gd1acf06: Adjust mulch rates for large rocks and tomahawks 10(3 days ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=d1acf06d16bf 09:37:14 03gammafunk02 07[weightless_rebase] * 0.15-a0-1035-g67be88c: Make corpses and skeletons stationary items 10(2 days ago, 15 files, 202+ 68-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=67be88c9fdfa 09:37:42 Ok, weightless_rebase is up for people to look over and point out any technical problems/bugs 09:38:22 I'll do a final rebase against latest trunk and then push to trunk later today 09:38:54 -!- CSDCScripter has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:40:37 oh, good 09:40:50 I'm at 98 commits in trunk, so I'll break 100 with weightless 09:41:24 too bad no. 100 is the trap commit and not the one after 09:43:26 -!- nooodl has joined ##crawl-dev 09:44:52 -!- Orfax has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 09:46:26 -!- SkaryMonk has joined ##crawl-dev 09:46:37 -!- SkaryMonk2 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:48:07 -!- CSDCScripter has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:49:36 -!- scummos^ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:54:32 -!- hurdos has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 09:54:39 hm. amnesiac suggests that maybe halflings should have their apts balanced a little more towards str, now that they're supposed to be armour users. 09:55:16 -!- scummos^ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 09:55:53 also, give them better weapon apts, and rename them to "not-mountain not-dwarves" 09:56:58 -!- CSDCScripter has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:57:08 -!- Stendarr has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 09:57:39 well maybe also in that commit out-of-los acting summons, zot traps from d:1 down, speed 15 hydra, speed 20 oof in order to balance those Ha changes 09:58:00 sounds good. ship it 09:58:23 good thing you're also working on terpsichore 2.0 09:59:04 only indirectly! 09:59:23 I've only won a nem choice HaCj of Trog and not ever a Ko, so I'm not very experienced with either 09:59:34 but Ha was pretty powerful 09:59:41 yeah, ha felt quite strong to me 09:59:53 and I was playing a super goofy background 09:59:56 !hs . ha 09:59:57 5. PleasingFungus the Evocator (L27 HaAr of Nemelex Xobeh), escaped with the Orb and 5 runes on 2014-03-30 19:56:22, with 2541260 points after 101717 turns and 12:41:01. 09:59:59 oh 10:00:04 !hs . ha -2 10:00:04 4/5. PleasingFungus the Slinger (L16 HaHu of Fedhas), slain by an alligator on Lair:3 on 2014-04-17 19:37:11, with 83002 points after 32375 turns and 3:31:15. 10:00:08 hm 10:00:21 that's not right 10:00:27 !lg pleasingfungus Ha-- won s=char 10:00:28 One game for pleasingfungus (Ha-- won): HaAr 10:00:30 -!- SkaryMonk has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 10:00:36 yeah now I'm just baffled. hm 10:00:39 !lg pleasingfungus Ha-- s=char 10:00:40 5 games for pleasingfungus (Ha--): 3x HaAr, 2x HaHu 10:00:47 -!- Lightli has joined ##crawl-dev 10:00:49 oh I was getting games mixed up 10:01:11 I was confusing the hane my room-mate was playing with the haar I was playing at the same time 10:01:16 'oops' 10:01:55 idk. it definitely felt pretty similar to ko, though. both small races that have less in the way of hunger problems than other races 10:02:09 though I guess ha slow metabolism already went the way of the dodo... 10:02:32 I'm not even up to speed, does Ko still have carnivore? 10:02:44 yes, it just lost saporovore 10:02:46 I think 10:03:03 ok, well to make it more complicated, we have maybe-big food changes incoming 10:03:19 the chunkless doom... 10:03:23 although I think the plan is to keep carnivore species using chunks 10:03:36 I *think* 10:03:39 -!- conted has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:03:41 'maybe' 10:04:24 -!- CSDCScripter has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:08:08 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 10:08:23 I think the only species that keep chunk-eating are trolls and ghouls 10:10:06 It depends on whether any big changes happen to satiation states I think 10:10:51 -!- notcluie has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:10:59 <|amethyst> they should lose carnivore then 10:11:23 <|amethyst> because carnivore without the ability to eat chunks is a pretty big restriction 10:11:31 -!- Tuxedo[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:11:54 -!- CSDCScripter has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:12:21 -!- Quashie has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 10:12:57 I'm assuming that kobolds' whole dietary style will be reworked in chunkless, yeah. Assuming they get to remain nutritionally distinctive at all. 10:16:08 Ko can literally only eat meat rations, but instead of starving they become meatless and transform into a HULK 10:16:22 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 10:16:29 !!!!! 10:16:36 bam, Ko/Ha similarity solved 10:16:47 dang. 10:18:29 -!- Ankalagon has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:18:41 -!- CSDCScripter has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:20:55 rip? 10:20:56 Grunt: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 10:22:48 03PleasingFungus02 07[weightless_rebase] * 0.15-a0-1036-gfb86773: Tweak a tutorial message 10(5 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=fb8677302794 10:24:53 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 10:25:48 -!- Morg0th has quit [Quit: leaving] 10:27:04 Hm. I mentioned this yesterday, but how do people feel about moving Ignite Poison down a spell level? It feels pretty weak these days, sans-Hive. 10:27:30 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 10:29:25 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 10:31:07 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:32:45 -!- CSDCScripter has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:32:59 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.15-a0-1028-g5bce196: Remove an unused parameter & update comments 10(5 minutes ago, 1 file, 3+ 4-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=5bce1962da33 10:34:28 -!- Fizybubbleh has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 10:36:06 -!- Ragdoll has joined ##crawl-dev 10:36:49 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:37:12 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 10:37:14 -!- zkyp has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:40:43 -!- ActinalWhomp has joined ##crawl-dev 10:43:08 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 10:43:36 -!- CSDCScripter has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:46:44 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 10:48:18 -!- notcluie has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:48:42 -!- lobf has quit [Client Quit] 10:53:17 -!- CSDCScripter has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:56:19 -!- bh has joined ##crawl-dev 10:56:21 "Unable to find exit from ziggurat_pillar_centre_j" 10:56:37 I keep waiting for Grunt to fix that bug 11:01:08 %git HEAD^{/no_exit} 11:01:09 07Grunt02 * 0.15-a0-860-gca0822a: Make mini_float the default; add a no_exits tag instead. 10(11 days ago, 35 files, 306+ 373-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=ca0822add27c 11:01:14 %git HEAD^{/pillar} 11:01:14 07Grunt02 * 0.15-a0-879-g7a8794f: Some experimental variability in layout_big_octagon. 10(10 days ago, 1 file, 73+ 43-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=7a8794f3d948 11:01:19 %git HEAD^{/pillar}^^{/pillar} 11:01:19 07MarvinPA02 * 0.15-a0-338-gb2f60b4: Ignore bramble/pillar of salt/block of ice timeout messages by default 10(4 weeks ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=b2f60b4e04b5 11:01:29 ...I thought someone else had fixed that already o_o 11:01:41 -!- blabber has joined ##crawl-dev 11:01:46 I could have sworn someone did. but apparently not? 11:02:12 ??disaster area[2 11:02:12 disaster area[2/4]: !lg drag0n tomb:3 1 -tv:<0.3 11:02:17 !lg drag0n tomb:3 1 -tv:<0.3 11:02:18 1. drag0n, XL27 HOFi, T:75693 requested for FooTV (telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org). 11:03:52 ??disaster area[3 11:03:53 disaster area[3/4]: so what does Disaster Area actually do, besides insta-kill you on tomb:3 insta-kills everything besides you when you aren't on tomb 3 11:03:53 ??disaster area[4 11:03:53 disaster area[4/4]: I was trying to ninja the orb on a LONe of Qazlal And I ended up getting caught and surrounded in the orb chamber I used Disaster Area and then I was alone So I ninja'd the orb Except by killing everything 11:04:33 sounds like... a DISASTER of an ability! 11:05:18 It sure is. For your enemies. 11:05:43 is disaster area undercosted? 11:05:52 it's pretty damn expensive, iirc 11:05:58 just scales quite well with invo 11:06:19 -!- CSDCScripter has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:07:19 ah, I've got 21 invo. no wonder it pops dudes 11:08:44 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 11:14:58 -!- LarsH has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:17:34 -!- CSDCScripter has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:18:23 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 11:19:44 -!- Infinite_Monkeys has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:23:39 -!- froboctopus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:24:03 -!- CSDCScripter has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:25:04 -!- onwiheg has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:25:19 Hm. is there any danger of breaking save compat by adding a new beam type in the middle of enum beam_type { } ? 11:25:58 -!- Syndicus has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:26:47 -!- Keanan has joined ##crawl-dev 11:26:53 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:26:59 -!- Fhqwhgads__ is now known as Fhqwhgads_ 11:27:15 -!- Keanan has quit [Client Quit] 11:27:21 -!- hurdos has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:27:38 PleasingFungus: any reason to not add it to the end? 11:28:17 The positioning matters - it should probably be before BEAM_LAST_ENCHANTMENT, for example. 11:28:27 !source enum.h:374 11:28:27 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/enum.h;hb=HEAD#l374 11:29:18 Looks like other people have added stuff in the middle in the current version, so I'm *guessing* it's safe, but I wanted to double-check. 11:29:30 sounds safe. 11:30:28 -!- CSDCScripter has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:31:23 <|amethyst> beam types are not marshalled anywhere so it is safe 11:32:27 -!- rast- has joined ##crawl-dev 11:33:41 aight 11:35:53 -!- radinms has quit [] 11:35:54 -!- rast-- has joined ##crawl-dev 11:36:02 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:36:04 -!- rast-- is now known as rast 11:39:27 -!- rast- has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:39:53 -!- Nerem has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:43:25 -!- NeremWorld has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:43:49 -!- CSDCScripter has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:46:38 -!- Nerem has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:47:28 -!- NTRAFF has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:48:07 -!- magicpoints has joined ##crawl-dev 11:51:41 -!- NeremWorld has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 11:55:47 -!- CSDCScripter has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:57:32 -!- Nerem has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:59:44 Kellhus (L27 GrWz) ERROR in 'mon-place.cc' at line 1218: invalid monster to place: removed MONS_SHEDU (408) (Pan) 12:04:11 -!- CSDCScripter has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:07:53 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 12:08:34 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 12:11:19 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 12:12:43 -!- CSDCScripter has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:15:55 -!- Quashie_ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 12:15:57 -!- mopl has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:16:11 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.15-a0-1028-g5bce196 (34) 12:16:57 -!- NeremWorld has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:18:07 -!- Ququman has joined ##crawl-dev 12:19:34 -!- bh has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:19:40 -!- Lasty1 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 12:24:28 -!- CSDCScripter has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:24:59 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 12:25:39 -!- Nerem has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:26:49 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 12:27:26 -!- NeremWorld has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 12:28:02 -!- st_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:28:28 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 12:28:29 -!- Fhqwhgads__ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:29:44 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 12:30:58 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:31:08 -!- Fhqwhgads__ is now known as Fhqwhgads_ 12:32:44 -!- Nerem has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:32:48 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 12:36:14 -!- CSDCScripter has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:37:01 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:37:12 -!- Fhqwhgads__ is now known as Fhqwhgads_ 12:37:16 -!- Guest62734 has joined ##crawl-dev 12:37:25 -!- SwissStopwatch has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:39:56 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:40:07 -!- rast- has joined ##crawl-dev 12:40:08 -!- rast- is now known as rast 12:41:54 -!- NeremWorld has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:41:57 -!- nooodl_ has joined ##crawl-dev 12:43:59 -!- Sharkman1231 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:44:45 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 12:45:27 -!- nooodl has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:48:10 -!- CSDCScripter has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:51:07 -!- nooodl_ is now known as nooodl 12:55:20 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 12:55:34 -!- Fhqwhgads__ is now known as Fhqwhgads_ 12:57:39 -!- CSDCScripter has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:58:07 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 12:58:12 -!- Nerem has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:59:40 !tell Grunt bh the Trollish Catastrophe, excellent job as always Grunt 12:59:40 gammafunk: OK, I'll let grunt know. 12:59:52 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:59:53 !send gammafunk the End of an Era 12:59:53 Sending the End of an Era to gammafunk. 13:00:07 -!- Fhqwhgads__ is now known as Fhqwhgads_ 13:01:09 Is that title a reference to something in particular? 13:01:50 The idea behind it was "A disaster so calamatitous it could be considered to be[...]" 13:02:06 <|amethyst> Wasn't there a Busta Rhymes album about that? 13:02:08 -!- Keanan has joined ##crawl-dev 13:02:11 No idea. 13:02:13 <|amethyst> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E.L.E._(Extinction_Level_Event):_The_Final_World_Front 13:02:37 -!- CSDCScripter has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:02:47 -!- donblas has joined ##crawl-dev 13:02:58 Grunt: that's what I figured, but I wasn't sure if it was some literary reference or something 13:03:00 There's Only One Year Left!!! 13:03:17 hello devs, i need a password reset on my web tiles account, how do i go about that? 13:03:24 donblas: which server? 13:03:36 Grunt: https://crawl.s-z.org 13:03:40 Grunt: bh just splatted his TrWr of Q 13:03:50 <|amethyst> donblas: what account name? 13:03:54 donblas 13:03:58 gammafunk: a catastrophic loss? 13:04:12 i can provide e-mail if needed 13:04:24 <|amethyst> I'll use the one on the account 13:04:43 |amethyst: awesome 13:04:49 Grunt: his ghost will really storm up contraversy 13:05:27 Grunt: my TrWr of Q (bh obviously copied me) also nearly died on zot:5 13:05:43 turns out being loud is dangerous 13:05:58 especially in my case when there were so many curse toes 13:06:04 <|amethyst> donblas: okay, email sent 13:06:26 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 13:07:08 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:07:23 |amethyst: awesome, i got the e-mail, one more question, where can i set to something else? 13:07:53 <|amethyst> donblas: right now there isn't a way to do that via webtiles :( 13:07:57 <|amethyst> do you have putty? 13:08:00 can you via ssh? 13:08:03 <|amethyst> yes 13:08:18 |amethyst: thank you, you get to be my hero of the day 13:08:30 thanks devs! o/ 13:08:33 <|amethyst> donblas: 'c' from the main menu in dgamelaunch 13:08:52 <|amethyst> no problem :) 13:09:04 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 13:09:47 <|amethyst> ??ssh 13:09:48 ssh[1/4]: Modern protocol, which through the magic of compression uses less bandwidth and with typical internet:cpu ratios winds up faster overall. Supported by CAO and CDO. 13:09:48 -!- donblas has left ##crawl-dev 13:10:01 <|amethyst> I believe that but it would be nice to see the data :) 13:10:20 <|amethyst> !learn edit ssh[1] s/through the magic of compression // 13:10:20 ssh[1/4]: Modern protocol, which uses less bandwidth and with typical internet:cpu ratios winds up faster overall. Supported by CAO and CDO. 13:10:48 -!- stickyfingers has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:11:09 <|amethyst> (webtiles uses compression, too, with most browsers) 13:11:24 -!- CSDCScripter has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:11:57 does ssh use less bandwidth compared to the the json/http? 13:12:55 webtiles also has to transfer the client data, but that's once per connection (I assume) 13:12:59 <|amethyst> It's not unbelievable that it does under normal usage 13:13:20 <|amethyst> it probably depends heavily on your options 13:14:15 sometimes I get this funny thing were, when using ssh but also spectating in webtiles, my input is getting processed and is showing up in the browser but not in my terminal 13:15:02 hitting esc I see the "Unknown command" message in webtiles repeatedly but the terminal is clearly frozen 13:15:24 and then after a couple seconds it will go away 13:15:35 -!- NeremWorld has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 13:16:18 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 13:16:39 <|amethyst> gammafunk: hm 13:16:45 -!- CSDCScripter has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:17:50 -!- Nerem has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 13:21:48 -!- donblas has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:21:51 -!- Keanan has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 13:22:14 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:22:19 -!- NeremWorld has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 13:23:07 -!- CSDCScripter has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:29:05 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 13:29:55 -!- CSDCScripter has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:30:11 -!- Stendarr has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:30:54 FR: remove all random door from lair 13:31:02 they are weird and not lair-like 13:31:16 doors palced by vaults are OK 13:31:29 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:34:40 -!- AndChat|12144 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 13:36:18 |amethyst: when you close down an experimental branch, how do you handle the saved games? someone was asking if I could delete their game so !locateall doesn't show up 13:36:39 s/doesn't/doesn't make their game/ 13:36:47 <|amethyst> hm 13:37:11 <|amethyst> you'd need to make a logfile entry for their game to do that 13:37:25 -!- ActinalWhomp has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:37:28 -!- CSDCScripter has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:37:32 <|amethyst> and I don't think it would be good to do that automatically for everybody 13:37:49 <|amethyst> oh wait 13:37:54 <|amethyst> !cmd !locateall 13:37:55 Command: !locateall => .echo $(or $(join " || " $(split " | ^" $(sub 1 $(=locateall.raw $*)))) "Failed to locate $(name_fixup "$*").") 13:38:02 <|amethyst> !fn =locateall.raw 13:38:02 No user function '=locateall.raw' () 13:38:06 <|amethyst> !cmd =locateall.raw 13:38:06 Command: =locateall.raw => !lm ${*:-.} alive s=name,gid o=-name join:" | " pfmt:"^${.}: ${child}" fmt:"\$(!lm ${*:-.} gid=${.} fmt:'$(upper $src) $cv, L$xl $char of ${god:-No God}')" stub:"^" 13:39:15 -!- ActinalWhomp has joined ##crawl-dev 13:39:28 <|amethyst> yeah 13:39:37 !locateall odiv 13:39:41 odiv: CAO 0.13, L14 DrEn of Okawaru | CAO 0.14-a, L9 DgWn of No God | CBRO 0.14-a, L14 HaEn of Dithmenos | CBRO 0.14, L20 MfAM of Fedhas | CBRO 0.15-a, L1 MuSu of No God | CSZO 0.13, L20 OgAM of Ashenzari | CSZO 0.14-a, L11 SpVM of Kikubaaqudgha | CSZO 0.14, L17 VSMo of Ashenzari 13:40:02 <|amethyst> (hmm 13:40:07 he thinks the MuSu was from an experimental. I couldn't figure how how to search for that to confirm 13:40:19 <|amethyst> look in the save dirs 13:40:22 but I do see a .cs game in DGL/crawl-master/crawl-gods/saves 13:40:26 with his name 13:40:31 but I don't know how to hack that 13:40:33 to confirm 13:40:35 <|amethyst> copy that to your computer and load it up in crawl :) 13:40:40 hah 13:40:42 ok 13:40:43 <|amethyst> moment 13:40:46 that was my plan B ;p 13:41:08 <|amethyst> there's something in the save that indicates the version 13:41:16 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 13:43:23 <|amethyst> crawl -edit-save foo.cs get chr - | strings 13:43:40 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 13:45:17 -!- Fhqwhgads__ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:46:39 <|amethyst> probably the "easiest" way to make the death entry is to manually load the player's game with the old binary (and proper path etc. options to match how dgl would have started it) and quit 13:47:22 -!- CSDCScripter has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:47:29 -!- FVG has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 13:47:34 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 13:49:17 <|amethyst> Hm 13:50:22 <|amethyst> !learn edit nfm[1] s/$/, admin dgl command to back up others' saves?/ 13:50:23 nfm[1/2]: TODO: save-fixing guide, CAO tutorial mode, finish inventory of server-side software, finish and send infrastructure team proposal to CRD, take list of stable and exp. branches from a file, script to deploy new version, inotify for new inprogress dirs too, Chei -> dobrazupa, autobuild glyphs+monster, admin dgl command to back up others' saves? 13:50:44 <|amethyst> Guess I should start on some of that :P 13:53:42 -!- CSDCScripter has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:54:32 -!- alefury has joined ##crawl-dev 13:56:17 !send |amethyst more stuff to do 13:56:18 Sending more stuff to do to |amethyst. 13:56:18 <_< 13:56:28 <|amethyst> ??nfm[2] 13:56:29 nfm[2/2]: TODO[2]: represent dungeon feature properties, such as traversibility and visibility, as data rather than code and inflexible enum ranges 13:56:34 <|amethyst> oh no, it worked! 13:57:29 gasp 13:57:36 1learn add nfm[3] 13:58:24 <|amethyst> !learn edit nfm[2] s/: /: O_CREAT|O_EXCL version of lk_open; / 13:58:24 nfm[2/2]: TODO[2]: O_CREAT|O_EXCL version of lk_open; represent dungeon feature properties, such as traversibility and visibility, as data rather than code and inflexible enum ranges 13:59:32 oh yeah that reminds me 13:59:39 johnstein, can you make me an admin? 13:59:58 <|amethyst> johnstein: also 78291 if he has an account and you haven't yet 14:00:33 03wheals02 07* 0.15-a0-1029-ge69a1e2: Clarify one of the effects of the Majin-bo. 10(3 hours ago, 1 file, 2+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=e69a1e24409d 14:01:38 Ah, good commit. 14:01:47 !send PleasingFungus commits 14:01:48 Sending commits to PleasingFungus. 14:01:59 !send grunt reverts 14:02:00 Sending reverts to grunt. 14:02:07 <_< 14:02:18 -!- sanka has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:03:27 -!- CSDCScripter has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:04:10 thanks |amethyst. I ran the command and the version is : 0.15-a0-328-g75e1cfe 14:04:19 <|amethyst> %git 75e1cfe 14:04:19 07Grunt02 * 0.15-a0-328-g75e1cfe: Don't show a meaningless Gozag piety indicator on webtiles. 10(4 weeks ago, 1 file, 2+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=75e1cfe7b34b 14:04:25 is there an easy way to cross reference that 14:04:27 oh 14:04:35 <|amethyst> hm 14:04:58 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 14:05:03 %git gods 14:05:03 07elliptic02 * 0.15-a0-435-gcc1328a: Qazlal worshippers don't notice storm cloud noise (Grunt). 10(3 weeks ago, 1 file, 4+ 3-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=cc1328a214e0 14:05:07 %git gods~100 14:05:08 07Grunt02 * 0.15-a0-335-g182429e: Allow Qazlalites to displace their own clouds. 10(4 weeks ago, 9 files, 45+ 10-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=182429ea40ce 14:05:11 %git gods~107 14:05:11 07Grunt02 * 0.15-a0-328-g75e1cfe: Don't show a meaningless Gozag piety indicator on webtiles. 10(4 weeks ago, 1 file, 2+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=75e1cfe7b34b 14:05:13 poof 14:05:14 :) 14:05:38 thanks 14:06:26 -!- Stendarr|2 has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 14:07:03 -!- Nightbeer has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 14:07:08 !send Grunt meaningless Gozag piety 14:07:08 Sending meaningless Gozag piety to Grunt. 14:09:19 !send gammafunk meaningful Qazlal piety 14:09:19 Sending meaningful Qazlal piety to gammafunk. 14:09:34 -!- gammafunk has quit [Quit: leaving] 14:10:18 ok, so now that I confirmed this is an experimental game. it seems ideal that !locatecall not show games that are no longer accessible 14:10:54 I haven't worked my way through the !locateall cmd to understand how best to accomplish this. perhaps this is something that isn't typically worried about 14:11:08 -!- CSDCScripter has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:13:01 <|amethyst> Somehow Sequell would need to know what branches are no longer available 14:13:14 <|amethyst> probably best would be not modifying that command 14:14:02 <|amethyst> but instead maybe having a way to tell Sequell to generate fake death entries 14:14:05 <|amethyst> hm 14:14:33 <|amethyst> .echo $(!lm odiv mu alive) 14:14:33 1. :id=9031050:game_key=odiv::cbro::20140328163346S:offset=61646:file=remote.cbro-milestones-any-gods:alpha=true:src=cbro:v=0.15.0-a0:cv=0.15-a:name=odiv:race=Mummy:crace=Mummy:cls=Summoner:char=MuSu:xl=1:sk=Summonings:sklev=3:title=Caller:place=D::1:br=D:lvl=1:absdepth=1:ltyp=:hp=13:mhp=13:mmhp=13:str=11:int=14:dex=12:god=:dur=0::00::00:turn=0:urune=0:nrune=0:time=20140328163346S:rtime=2014032816... 14:14:45 <|amethyst> hm 14:15:19 <|amethyst> !lg * s=file_cv 14:15:20 Unknown field: file_cv 14:15:31 <|amethyst> hmm 14:15:38 <|amethyst> !lg * s=file 14:15:45 3275724 games for *: 459414x remote.cdo-logfile-git, 433173x remote.cszo-logfile-git, 344425x remote.cao-logfile-git, 196118x remote.cao-logfile-0.5, 176993x remote.cdo-logfile-0.10, 152345x remote.cao-logfile-0.7, 142913x remote.cao-logfile-0.4, 139122x remote.cao-logfile-any, 133721x remote.cdo-logfile-0.11, 80636x remote.cdo-logfile-0.8, 80359x remote.cao-logfile-0.6, 71839x remote.cszo-logfile... 14:16:45 -!- Morik has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:17:03 maybe a way to fix !locateall showing games that moved to wizmode would be good too 14:17:29 -!- CSDCScripter has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:17:34 -!- eb_ has joined ##crawl-dev 14:19:17 <|amethyst> that one would be somewhat easier: generate a quit milestone if you have already generated a milestone (which I guess is always true now that we have "begin") 14:19:34 <|amethyst> s/quit milestone/quit milestone upon entering wizmode/ 14:19:50 <|amethyst> I guess that could confuse things if you get a crash milestone later? 14:20:05 <|amethyst> or if you have wizmode scoring on for testing 14:21:22 <|amethyst> !learn edit nfm[1] s/$/, fake logfile entries for exp & entering wizmode?/ 14:21:23 ERROR: New text exceeds the maximum length of 350 14:21:35 <|amethyst> !learn add nfm[2] fake logfile entries for exp & entering wizmode? 14:21:35 nfm[2/3]: fake logfile entries for exp & entering wizmode? 14:22:03 <|amethyst> !learn edit nfm[2] s/^/more server TODO: / 14:22:03 nfm[2/3]: more server TODO: fake logfile entries for exp & entering wizmode? 14:22:13 <|amethyst> !learn edit nfm[1] s/^/server / 14:22:14 ERROR: New text exceeds the maximum length of 350 14:22:22 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 14:22:30 <|amethyst> !learn edit nfm[1] s/, admin dgl command.*// 14:22:30 nfm[1/3]: TODO: save-fixing guide, CAO tutorial mode, finish inventory of server-side software, finish and send infrastructure team proposal to CRD, take list of stable and exp. branches from a file, script to deploy new version, inotify for new inprogress dirs too, Chei -> dobrazupa, autobuild glyphs+monster 14:22:32 <|amethyst> !learn edit nfm[1] s/^/server / 14:22:33 nfm[1/3]: server TODO: save-fixing guide, CAO tutorial mode, finish inventory of server-side software, finish and send infrastructure team proposal to CRD, take list of stable and exp. branches from a file, script to deploy new version, inotify for new inprogress dirs too, Chei -> dobrazupa, autobuild glyphs+monster 14:23:04 <|amethyst> !learn edit nfm[2] s/:/: admin dgl command to back up others' saves?,/ 14:23:04 nfm[2/3]: more server TODO: admin dgl command to back up others' saves?, fake logfile entries for exp & entering wizmode? 14:23:37 <|amethyst> !learn edit nfm[3] s/.*:/Crawl TODO:/ 14:23:37 nfm[3/3]: Crawl TODO: O_CREAT|O_EXCL version of lk_open; represent dungeon feature properties, such as traversibility and visibility, as data rather than code and inflexible enum ranges 14:24:23 <|amethyst> being organized is the best form of procrastination 14:24:32 <|amethyst> because you *feel* like you're getting something done :) 14:24:43 -!- CSDCScripter has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:26:16 what does 'nfm' stand for? 14:26:20 <|amethyst> my name :) 14:26:25 ahh 14:26:26 ok 14:26:31 <|amethyst> F is for "Franklin" 14:27:09 <|amethyst> though I don't use a middle initial professionally 14:28:12 <|amethyst> I managed to be the first Neil Moore to publish in computer science, but only by a few years :) 14:29:38 -!- gutt has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 14:30:17 ...there are moore of you? 14:30:19 * Grunt flees in terror. 14:30:50 -!- G-Flex has quit [Quit: Time for us to bug out.] 14:30:55 -!- blabber has quit [Quit: leaving] 14:31:08 -!- magicpoints has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:31:30 booo 14:34:13 -!- |amethyst is now known as GenuflectFurther 14:34:18 -!- GenuflectFurther is now known as |amethyst 14:35:21 -!- CSDCScripter has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:37:32 -!- Keanan has joined ##crawl-dev 14:37:39 Grunt: that was lovely 14:39:58 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:40:19 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 14:41:12 -!- CSDCScripter has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:47:25 -!- stanzwecha has quit [Quit: bonne wieauchimmer ŕ tous] 14:49:18 -!- CSDCScripter has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:52:14 -!- G-Flex has joined ##crawl-dev 14:58:19 -!- CSDCScripter has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:06:09 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 15:06:32 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 15:06:50 -!- CSDCScripter has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:07:48 -!- kekekela has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:08:12 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:08:18 -!- Moanerette has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:08:18 -!- notcluie has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:08:29 -!- notxluiw is now known as notcluie 15:09:53 -!- dtsund has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 15:11:30 !tell Grunt do you understand how fruiting_plant works 15:11:30 wheals: OK, I'll let grunt know. 15:12:45 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 15:15:18 -!- ActinalWhomp has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:18:24 -!- CSDCScripter has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:18:40 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 15:18:42 -!- Fhqwhgads__ is now known as Fhqwhgads_ 15:22:45 -!- surprisetrex has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:23:07 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:23:09 -!- Fhqwhgads__ is now known as Fhqwhgads_ 15:23:55 -!- minmay has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:23:55 -!- minqmay has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:27:35 -!- Amnesiac has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 15:31:42 -!- CSDCScripter has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:35:14 -!- Ragdoll has quit [Quit: Houdoe] 15:36:10 -!- category has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:36:43 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:36:51 -!- zxc232 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 15:36:55 -!- Fhqwhgads__ is now known as Fhqwhgads_ 15:37:16 -!- Amnekian has quit [] 15:37:42 -!- Nethris has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 15:41:38 -!- magicpoints has joined ##crawl-dev 15:41:45 -!- CSDCScripter has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:44:51 -!- WereVolvo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:45:35 -!- Krymise has quit [Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. 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I wonder what the simplest way to slap distort-unwield effects on monsters would be... 16:38:43 isn't it just a MiscastEffect? 16:38:53 is it? 16:38:55 PleasingFungus: context? 16:39:02 Grunt: new tukima's 16:40:09 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:40:14 You could not give them a miscast effect; it's not as though they get one when swapping from distortion weapons anyway. :) 16:40:30 -!- reaverb has joined ##crawl-dev 16:40:34 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 16:40:52 Hm. Are they allowed to switch away from distort weapons? 16:40:58 Yes. 16:40:59 yes 16:41:03 have you ever fought sonja? 16:41:06 oh right sonja 16:41:07 :p 16:41:15 I haven't fought her in a while, actually 16:41:21 !lm . sonja 16:41:22 No keyword 'sonja' 16:41:43 ...by "a while" I apparently mean "less than a week". nvm 16:41:44 wheals: I think the fruiting_plant tag is just used to define which subvaults should be used. 16:41:54 i know, i was talking about the only vault with it 16:41:58 you should look at it 16:42:04 !vault blue_anna_fruit_fields 16:42:05 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/dat/des/branches/lair.des;hb=HEAD#l682 16:42:08 mm. I guess it's probably simpler & less abuseable to give them no distort unwield effects 16:42:37 wheals: Yes, I think that's just so blue_anna_fruit_fields can be used as a subvaults elsewhere. 16:42:43 i 16:42:44 know 16:42:53 did you look at the vault 16:43:03 wheals: Oh, so what do you mean by "do you understand how fruiting_plant works" 16:43:14 how the fuck does that vault work 16:43:27 wheals: Ok, that makes sense. 16:43:32 good strawberry ??? 16:43:35 if only the vault did 16:43:38 (in the comment) 16:44:00 also, I like how none of these can be mimics, except for the chokos 16:44:00 -!- CSDCScripter has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:44:17 ravenous choko mimic, it hungers for chokos 16:44:33 fucked up if true 16:44:57 oh it's hangedman's fault 16:44:58 of course it is. 16:45:42 1learn add 16:45:54 the vault name threw me off 16:46:13 to be fair it used to be 20 near-identical vaults or something 16:46:28 It just randomly picks a fruit (from any of ITEM or KITEM) lines and places it around that vault randomly. 16:46:36 it's overcomplicated though. 16:47:05 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:47:06 and weights the chances weirdly - oranges have half the chance of apples, etc. 16:47:24 I'd suggest there should be actual code for choosing fruit with weights based on their nutrition, but it's going to be a moot point in any case... 16:47:36 that's why i'm looking at it, yes 16:48:01 Well, aren't fruit going to merged into one big, gross, generi-fruit? 16:48:07 yep 16:48:22 ah - you're trying to figure out how that'll affect nutrition availability? 16:49:05 yeah, and trying to keep the average of the vault the same 16:49:19 do random2(18) irl and base the new vault on that version of the old vault 16:49:26 wheals: I would argue that's not necessary. 16:49:34 An approximation would be fine. 16:49:40 an approximation of what, though? 16:49:50 there's no way it won't be an approximation 16:49:53 The nutrition numbers are listed at the top of the vault. 16:49:53 11k from bananas? 1k from sultanas? 16:51:16 This vault doesn't even spawn every game I would just pick one. 16:53:15 alternatively remove the whole thing and put some vaguely appropriate amount of fruit in hangedman_ranch 16:53:28 what about blue_anna_alchemist 16:53:45 put some vaguely appropriate amount of fruit there too or remove it i guess 16:53:55 -!- CSDCScripter has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:54:26 mostly i am not sure why there is an allow_dup vault with huge amounts of fruit that spawns in lair, this seems like not a great thing fedhas-wise 16:54:39 <|amethyst> it's allow_dup because of blue_anna_alchemist 16:55:01 <|amethyst> which subvaults fruiting_plant four times 16:55:56 <|amethyst> which probably wasn't so much of a problem when it was a bunch of different vaults 16:57:46 <|amethyst> marking it unrand seems reasonable---maybe also adding more food vaults that use it 16:58:15 i think at the very least/regardless of any food consolidation stuff it would be good for fruit_fields to not place multiple times in lair 16:58:20 so yeah, unrand could be good 16:58:47 (rip secret fedhas buff?) 16:59:51 http://pastie.org/9220356 is what i have so far 16:59:57 doesn't deal with food.des 17:00:10 I still think the best way to go is just seperate fedhas' item from food. (and am confued nobody objected when I proposed that on c-r-d but I'm being ninja'd by wheals on food changes anyway) 17:00:29 that doesn't help with spriggans... 17:00:54 this might actually be more fruits on average, in fact 17:01:24 wheals: help with spriggans how? 17:01:40 * SamB has not been paying much attention but demands he be spoon-fed anyway; -P 17:01:49 keeping the food provided by the food vaults around the same with fruit consolidation 17:03:20 wheals: Nice changes. Are you going to push this to a branch at some point? 17:03:33 i was just planning to dump into trunk 17:03:54 i guess maybe not the best idea 17:04:16 wheals: I'm fine with pushing to Trunk but I have no idea how other people feel. I meant while you're still developing the feature. 17:05:12 -!- CSDCScripter has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:06:11 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 17:06:28 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 17:07:08 this is just fruit consolidation? 17:07:17 I don't think that's a big enough thing to need a branch... 17:07:26 also cheese and sausage 17:08:19 -!- Morik has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:08:52 -!- Blomdor has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:09:16 -!- Morik_ has quit [Client Quit] 17:09:56 still 17:09:56 but the flavor 17:10:02 my apples do not taste like cheese 17:10:06 clearly give fruits pizza-style random flavors 17:10:16 PleasingFungus: That's the plan IIRC 17:10:18 "Mmm. Eggplant!" 17:10:19 oh yeah was gonna do that 17:10:23 haha 17:10:28 critical! cannot push without this feature! 17:10:46 Yes randomized flavors can weight. 17:11:06 Is there a need for certain "@" lines to be near the top of the log or "@" button? Or can I just use enum order? 17:11:25 <|amethyst> I don't think it's nearly as important there 17:11:36 <|amethyst> @ isn't limited-space like status lights are 17:11:39 -!- CampinSam has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.2] 17:12:06 |amethyst: Ok, thanks. 17:12:13 <|amethyst> And is intended to be read rather than glanced at in peripheral vision :) 17:12:45 -!- nooodl_ has joined ##crawl-dev 17:13:25 -!- CSDCScripter has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:15:41 -!- nooodl has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:17:17 Unstable branch on crawl.lantea.net updated to: 0.15-a0-1029-ge69a1e2 (34) 17:19:29 -!- jeffro has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:24:07 maybe i'll make fruit show as different kinds randomly 17:25:03 yeah, i just made it use the choko tile for now 17:25:15 -!- CSDCScripter has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:25:24 that's fine, i'll mess with it at some point 17:26:02 i doubt it gets item.rnd so i'll have to remember how to make it get that 17:26:29 -!- Euph0ria has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 17:29:18 -!- rbrrk has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:29:46 -!- Lasty1 has joined ##crawl-dev 17:31:05 Praying does not change remove curse scrolls for Ashenzari worshipper by JasonMel 17:32:12 one of the messages should probably clarify that the scrolls need to be on the ground. 17:36:22 03wheals02 07* 0.15-a0-1030-g946bf48: Remove some foods. 10(31 hours ago, 12 files, 64+ 234-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=946bf4815769 17:36:22 03wheals02 07* 0.15-a0-1031-ga59fa48: Remove old food types from saves. 10(30 hours ago, 2 files, 28+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=a59fa48e2034 17:36:22 03wheals02 07* 0.15-a0-1032-ga2359c2: Removal of old food types in vaults. 10(28 minutes ago, 22 files, 95+ 184-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=a2359c28660f 17:36:22 03wheals02 07* 0.15-a0-1033-g6fec716: Randomised text for eating fruit (MarvinPA, PleasingFungus). 10(6 minutes ago, 2 files, 51+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=6fec71629f3f 17:36:39 -!- home has quit [Changing host] 17:37:49 -!- CSDCScripter has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:38:48 -!- hypertraveller has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:38:57 !send wheals buggy fruit 17:38:57 Sending buggy fruit to wheals. 17:39:08 Eugh! 17:39:11 so I need to load my old saves, eat all the fruit before updating? 17:39:29 only if it's higher nutritional value than the new "fruit" item 17:39:47 wheals: Err, in the future I would prefer not having commits which break compliation because of git bisect. 17:40:07 none of them have broken compilation, just running 17:40:09 i think it's better practice to remove things from vaults in the same commit as removing them elsewhere yeah 17:40:11 oh they get replaced. no worries then, the commit message just said "remove" 17:40:21 wheals: (The vaults one breaks debug) 17:40:21 -!- jeffro has joined ##crawl-dev 17:40:28 err, the ones before the vaults ones. 17:40:31 oh i was afraid of the commit being unreadably huge 17:40:32 sorry 17:41:42 it does make them pretty huge but it's not too hard to skip past the vaults/nonvaults stuff depending on which you're looking for, i think 17:42:18 -!- HDA has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:43:30 wheals: Also, you could of pushed the sub-commits to a branch and linked people there :D 17:43:44 wheals: Anyway, Thank you for helping reduce the tyrany of food stuffs. 17:44:03 yes sounds like a good change 17:46:17 Y'know, a nice side effect of giving fruit the pizza treatment is that now we can add more fruit "types" without adding actual items 17:46:18 Hmm, trying to cast "Teleport Other" at yourslef gets the "That would be overly suicidal." message. 17:46:40 fr: Durian 17:46:44 magicpoints: Yes, because we totally need a breadfruit to justify Agnes. 17:46:48 :D 17:47:07 Passion fruit! Star fruit! 17:47:48 -!- CSDCScripter has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:48:01 Also it looks like the "fruit" item still needs a desc? 17:49:27 fr: mangoes 17:49:32 (especially death mangoes) 17:49:59 Anyway, this might be a good low-effort April Fools idea to pull eventually. 17:50:22 "fruit" is going to be a challenge 17:50:28 A fruit. 17:50:43 is fruit a word 17:50:48 i mean, look at it 17:50:54 We could joke about how you can't tell what fruit it is until you eat it. 17:50:54 ontoclasm: it should be extremely easy: use all of the current tiles randomly :) 17:51:23 i didn't even move them to UNUSED! 17:51:25 what about just depicting a couple pieces of fruit 17:51:36 -!- Vidiny has quit [] 17:51:40 Grunt: yeah but when you eat it the message won't match!!! 17:51:50 since otherwise you will have people complain about clarity! (i guess red and green % apples are gone now) 17:51:51 ontoclasm: it's a magical delicious fruit. 17:53:27 magical delicious...or magically delicious? 17:53:30 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 17:54:06 -!- CSDCScripter has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:54:31 wheals: both!!! 17:55:02 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 17:55:10 -!- Fhqwhgads__ is now known as Fhqwhgads_ 17:56:18 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:56:19 "A piece of fruit. There are many varieties of these, but you don't care too much about the differences, as (not_carnivorous: all of them are delicious | carnivore_3: you couldn't digest it anyways)." 17:59:50 does FFL_FRUIT still need to exist? it's the only food flag and only one one item, seems unnecessary now 18:00:04 magicpoints: carnivore < 3 -> "they're all unpalatable" 18:01:34 i guess we don't need food flags if food types aren't likely to be added and neither are functional foods 18:02:35 my rule with descriptions is: "if you don't want to call attention to something, don't try to lampshade it in the description." 18:02:44 -!- edlothiol has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:02:51 Just "a piece of fruit" is probably fine. 18:03:01 functional foods like (mango (peel seed flesh)) 18:05:10 -!- CSDCScripter has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:05:29 -!- nooodl_ has quit [Quit: Ik ga weg] 18:06:48 as opposed to imperative foods, that yell at you not to eat them 18:07:35 object foods respond to messages? 18:08:22 -!- Patashu has quit [Client Quit] 18:12:46 -!- Ququman_ has joined ##crawl-dev 18:12:56 -!- CSDCScripter has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:14:11 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 18:15:19 03|amethyst02 07* 0.15-a0-1034-g314f76c: Remove a now-unnecessary field of food_def. 10(27 minutes ago, 1 file, 24+ 34-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=314f76c77d7d 18:15:19 03|amethyst02 07* 0.15-a0-1035-gecf1823: Remove a leftover reference to sausage. 10(24 minutes ago, 1 file, 0+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=ecf18230d316 18:15:19 03|amethyst02 07* 0.15-a0-1036-g106165f: Describe fruit, undescribe individual fruit. 10(17 minutes ago, 2 files, 4+ 156-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=106165f93466 18:15:19 03|amethyst02 07* 0.15-a0-1037-g9da29b5: Move old food tiles to UNUSED/ 10(11 minutes ago, 28 files, 0+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=9da29b5f573c 18:15:19 03|amethyst02 07* 0.15-a0-1038-gcf58d32: Remove some vestiges of lava orcs. 10(20 minutes ago, 3 files, 1+ 11-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=cf58d3286274 18:15:19 03|amethyst02 07* 0.15-a0-1039-g8f5d047: Sort Vine Stalker after Vampires in the aptitude list. 10(6 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=8f5d047d91b2 18:15:34 <|amethyst> I went with "A delicious edible flower ovary." but feel free to change that :) 18:15:48 -!- zeia has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:15:53 oh no, rip sausage simulacra 18:16:07 -!- Ququman has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:20:17 -!- jeanjacques has joined ##crawl-dev 18:22:03 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 18:23:56 -!- CSDCScripter has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:30:34 03reaverb02 07* 0.15-a0-1040-ge9c04cb: Don't hardcode durations to create the @ message 10(7 minutes ago, 1 file, 4+ 88-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=e9c04cbc4498 18:30:34 03reaverb02 07* 0.15-a0-1041-g629352d: Don't hardcode durations to create the @ section of a dump 10(6 minutes ago, 1 file, 4+ 91-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=629352d897e9 18:30:36 -!- CSDCScripter has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:31:27 that's only four hardcoded lists of durations, you have to do better 18:35:01 wheals: I know, I think I'll target the list in wiz-you.cc next. 18:35:33 hahahaha 18:35:39 good idea 18:35:51 -!- Almacia has quit [Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de] 18:36:03 Bleh, my computer just almost crashed. 18:36:31 'almost'? 18:36:41 !bug 8598 18:36:41 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=8598 18:36:47 PleasingFungus: It froze for like four minutes. 18:36:50 -!- Lasty1 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 18:36:52 reaverb: dang! 18:37:10 PleasingFungus: I'm going to assume that's sarcasm. 18:37:21 no? that's a nasty lock-up! 18:37:34 That was a sincere 'dang'. 18:37:47 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 18:39:19 we'd have to kick you out for using 'dang' insincerely 18:39:58 Anyway, I wonder if there any other places we use shotgun sugery that can be easily fixed. 18:40:26 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:40:43 Bad name for item cache: buggy food by xbon 18:40:47 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 18:41:35 that was fast 18:41:39 haha 18:41:48 -!- CSDCScripter has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:42:03 weird, it seemed to work, maybe he didn't update all the way 18:42:13 Maybe it's tiles only bug? 18:42:23 re 8598: how do people feel about changing "You can pray to bestow Ashenzari's curse upon scrolls that usually remove them." to "ou can pray to corrupt remove curse scrolls on your square.", to better match "You can pray to sacrifice all fresh corpses on your square."? 18:42:23 -!- phalm has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:42:42 the current version is more flavorful, but... 18:42:53 PleasingFungus: the new text sounds good. 18:43:49 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:44:19 mm. "You can pray to corrupt 'remove curse' scrolls on your square." is better 18:44:55 -!- Lightli has joined ##crawl-dev 18:44:55 PleasingFungus: The "corrupt" bit should probably mention it makes them add curses. 18:45:09 ??crd 18:45:09 c-r-d[1/2]: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.games.roguelike.crawl.devel 18:45:46 ??crd [2] 18:45:46 c-r-d[2/2]: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/crawl-ref-discuss 18:45:47 didn't the ashenzari instruction say "at your feet" at some point 18:46:23 "on your square" sounds really strange to me 18:46:32 "to corrupt scrolls of remove curse"? 18:46:42 MarvinPA: the problem is, that wouldn't solve this guy's confusion 18:46:55 wait I might be misreading you 18:47:22 we are all assuming the guy is trying to curse scrolls in his inventory right 18:47:24 i just mean as opposed to "to corrupt remove curse scrolls" or "to corrupt 'remove curse' scrolls" 18:47:25 yes 18:47:29 and yes 18:47:38 "You can pray to corrupt scrolls of remove curse on your square." 18:47:51 I think I might prefer the ' ' version, but only slightly 18:48:05 eb_: agreed that 'on your square' is super weird but it's at least consistent? 18:48:11 grepped around and couldn't find any trace of ashenzari feet 18:48:16 hm 18:48:29 and yes it's consistent where races without feet make "at your feet" not quite 18:48:35 "at your tentacles" 18:48:45 doesn't flow quite as well 18:48:47 but I'd just hope people wouldn't notice it 18:48:55 At your position. 18:49:09 Beneath you. 18:49:10 whatever 18:49:43 player_has_feet() ? "at your feet" : "before you" 18:49:58 is what acquirement uses 18:50:06 oo. 18:50:14 what's the text for acquiring while blind 18:50:24 "You can pray to corrupt 'remove curse' scrolls before you" is sort of weird, though 18:50:32 scrolls of curse removal 18:51:05 idk. I'm gonna push one thing and people can tweak it if they have a better idea 18:51:26 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:51:42 i will tweak 'remove curse' scrolls because it's more awkward than all the feet-related stuff :P 18:51:48 haha 18:51:49 -!- CSDCScripter has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:51:58 minmay: You can't be blinded yet. 18:52:03 just pushed, so you can pull & fix to your heart's content 18:52:12 godspeed! 18:52:14 that was the joke 18:52:22 also your use of "yet" makes me extremely worried 18:52:54 I can't duplicated the bad item cache bug. 18:53:14 the corrupt thing is weirder but it most easily figured out if the person is thinking of something else 18:53:24 remember monster dazzlespray 18:53:54 minmay: A new species which is blind at all times. They get old vampire-esque messages to replicate smell though. 18:54:00 eb_: I made a note on the ticket to see if that was the source of his confusion. 18:54:24 since the guy would "corrupt" the scrolls maybe thinking of something else but would see the results and think "oh so that's what corrupting scrolls does", where if someone doesn't understand that you're supposed to drop the scrolls, that'll be harder to figure out.... I think 18:54:57 PleasingFungus: sadly no bets to be made here since everyone is thinking the same thing 18:55:08 sure. seemed polite to check before closing the ticket, though. 18:55:56 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.15-a0-1042-g4fcdb96: Clarify Ash's prayer ability 10(4 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 4-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=4fcdb96aa9d3 18:56:01 reaverb: Dungeon Crawl Text Adventures 18:58:25 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 32.0a1/20140522030204]] 18:58:29 -!- Lasty1 has joined ##crawl-dev 19:00:06 -!- CSDCScripter has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:00:21 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 19:00:22 -!- Ququman_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:01:29 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:01:37 -!- Fhqwhgads__ is now known as Fhqwhgads_ 19:01:41 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 19:03:37 -!- Basil has joined ##crawl-dev 19:04:47 -!- scummos^ has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 19:06:56 -!- CSDCScripter has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:08:38 -!- koko_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:09:41 -!- rast- has joined ##crawl-dev 19:10:04 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:10:06 -!- rast- is now known as rast 19:11:11 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.15-a0-1043-g8c96ce8: Adjust Ash prayer message a bit more 10(17 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=8c96ce8e926d 19:11:18 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:14:03 -!- Morik has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 19:17:37 -!- CSDCScripter has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:21:24 03reaverb02 07* 0.15-a0-1044-ga337334: Remove some weird, unrelated, subjective comments (minmay) 10(4 minutes ago, 1 file, 5+ 5-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=a337334a0b4b 19:22:29 are we still crediting minmay as minmay and not duvessa 19:23:02 oh I guess I could look in CREDITS.txt 19:23:13 <|amethyst> He's in CREDITS.txt under his real name 19:23:17 gammafunk: Heh, IRC nick overrules from what I can tell. 19:23:30 gammafunk: What is this "savetheitems" branch? 19:23:41 reaverb: ...you really can't guess? 19:24:00 gammafunk: No Item destruction? 19:24:13 !send reaverb A victory sultana 19:24:13 Sending A victory sultana to reaverb. 19:24:20 -!- CSDCScripter has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:24:39 -!- Hailley has quit [Quit: Petra is closed!] 19:25:00 He's credited under his realname in CREDITS.txt, so I guess we'll keep minmay 19:26:10 gammafunk: I think you're the only dev who has ever started posting more on the Tavern after gettin the promotion. 19:26:45 reaverb: My very first post was when I introduced jump-attack, and I think my next post was as a dev 19:27:03 gammafunk: Heh. 19:27:07 Or next post in a different thread I should say 19:27:12 Yes. 19:27:56 B+ for effort, what rubbish 19:28:02 -!- ActinalWhomp has joined ##crawl-dev 19:29:15 -!- Zermako has quit [] 19:29:17 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 19:30:06 MarvinPA: I just realized neither of us mentioned the bug number on our ash prayer changes 19:30:07 'oops' 19:30:12 rip 19:30:20 revert revert revert 19:30:34 bug out! bug out! 19:30:48 IMO reset head to "Initial revision" 19:30:49 quickly 19:30:50 !!! 19:30:53 mine was unrelated to the bug! 19:30:53 So who's changing history today 19:31:05 we're all changing history, every day we live. 19:31:07 reaverb: thank you for removing those hard-coded status arrays 19:31:47 Twice I've wasted 15-30 minutes going crazy trying to figure out weird bugs because I forgot to update those 19:32:08 gammafunk: Yes, I've had difficulties with those too. 19:32:25 Hopefully I can remove a few more... 19:33:08 Also fixes a few bugs, like aura of abjuration being unserachable with Seqeull 19:33:19 <|amethyst> This is how one pictures the angel of history. His face is turned toward the past. Where we perceive a chain of events, he sees one single catastrophe which keeps piling wreckage upon wreckage and hurls it in front of his feet. 19:33:38 <|amethyst> (FR: get that quote in Crawl somewhere) 19:34:04 |amethyst: The intro to the dcss development introduction doc 19:35:20 This commitstorm is what we call 'progress'. 19:36:04 V Jory 19:36:04 Pleasingfungus: I just which I could fine a spell enhancer for programmancy. 19:36:10 s/fine/find/ 19:36:11 er sorry 19:37:29 -!- lavos has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:40:29 -!- Davens has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:40:47 -!- Bloax has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 19:41:40 "travel_avoid_terrain = shallow water" behaves strangely with octopode by crate 19:42:08 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 19:42:13 -!- alefury has quit [] 19:45:40 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 19:46:47 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 19:49:26 -!- Roarke has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:52:58 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:53:12 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 19:53:18 -!- Limulus has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:54:45 @reaverb: About that comment from the other day about potions of decay being "rare and interesting", I think that comment may have been referring to them in the context of Evaporate 19:54:59 magicpoints: Ah! 19:55:08 That makes a lot more sense. 19:55:22 what did !decay do with evaporate? 19:55:33 idk, probably make miasma 19:55:55 Which would be pretty useful of course 19:56:20 Hrm, interesting issue I realized as I was finishing up my final weightless rebase 19:56:21 -!- rast- has joined ##crawl-dev 19:56:42 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:56:43 A corpse on top of a pile blocks apporting anything underneath, since corpses cant be apported now 19:56:57 -!- rast- is now known as rast 19:57:01 -!- vede has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:57:13 We could go to the first apportable item in the pile 19:57:48 You can ultimately see anything in a pile with ctrl-x, so it's not an imformation leak 19:57:54 s/imformation/information/ 19:58:37 I imagine players zapping apport to see what's under a corpse without ctrl-x, but that's just the fault of how piles work 19:58:46 that takes a turn 19:58:47 you can see anything in a pile with ctrl-x? Did that change recently? 19:58:52 PleasingFungus: zap but cancel 19:58:58 you can't unless you've stepped on the pile 19:59:03 aha 19:59:15 so I guess a corpse needs to block apport then 19:59:24 a corpse/skeleton on top I mean 19:59:27 seems fine to me 19:59:37 anyone have any objection there? 19:59:42 sounds sort of awkward 20:00:02 yeah it is, the otherwise you can use apport to determine what's under a corpse 20:00:05 hrmmm 20:00:06 I guess what we could do 20:00:10 is not reveal the item 20:00:20 no, doesn't work that well 20:00:21 they're more like temporary terrain than items if you can't move them or pick them up 20:00:37 so i'd make them act more like temporary terrain and always be on the bottom of the pile or something, i dunno 20:00:48 yeah, bottom of a pile does sound reasonable 20:00:48 this might be dumb, but could you force corpses to always be on the bottom of the stack? or is that a ton more awkward based on how stacks are implemented? 20:00:58 yea, what MarvinPA just said 20:01:19 Gozag messes wher gold is in the stack. 20:01:19 (I guess it wasn't dumb after all!) 20:02:37 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 20:02:57 i guess that would put the nail in the coffin of my animate dead interface "improvement" 20:03:09 wheals: what were you planning? 20:03:20 %git :/nimate Dead 20:03:20 07wheals02 * 0.15-a0-987-gf040398: Don't waste time casting Animate Dead, usually. 10(3 days ago, 3 files, 25+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=f040398a199a 20:03:55 the problem with that being that z will cancel if you can't see corpses even if it's quite likely there are 20:04:12 I would be vaguely happy if that went away, because then I could get rid of the check_range param in your_spells(). 20:04:26 which I was trying to do earlier today, before I realized you'd actually used it! 20:04:28 rude wheals 20:04:30 -!- minmay has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:04:30 -!- minqmay has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:04:30 I take it that revealing pile contents always would not be good 20:04:45 the argument is that it encourages people to always x over piles 20:04:54 I'm... not super convinced by this myself 20:04:58 speedrun buff 20:05:12 especially given ctrl-x exists 20:05:56 I have food for any dev reverting that :| 20:06:37 reverting the animate dead fix? 20:06:42 yeah 20:06:50 Wait, ctrl-x shows all items wow I never knew that. 20:06:58 haha 20:07:31 !lg reaverb s=tiles 20:07:32 195 games for reaverb: 193x true, 2x false 20:07:45 obviously not a console player 20:08:08 gammafunk: My console has like the worst defaults for that ever. 20:08:18 Most messages are black on black for instance. 20:08:18 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:08:19 reaverb: that's when you copy a good rc 20:08:28 oh, your terminal? 20:08:33 gammafunk: Yeah. 20:08:33 &rc lainiw 20:08:34 default terminal colors are usually decent 20:08:36 Not a valid command: ?rc lavaorc git in ?rc lavaorc git 20:08:44 hmmm 20:09:03 the "m" command gave me particular trouble because all the skills are black text on a black background. 20:09:05 %rc definitelynotlainiw 20:09:06 mine are tweaked for crawl, mostly just an increase of font, set the window size, and a tweak so blue isn't so hard to see on black background 20:09:06 http://dobrazupa.org/rcfiles/crawl-git/definitelynotlainiw.rc 20:09:25 reaverb: yeah it's very easy to make a crawl profile; recommend iterm while you're on os x 20:09:50 gammafunk: Meh, I'm fine with tiles except for deving 20:10:10 getting your crawl rc optimized for crawl general takes more work 20:10:18 s/general/generally/ 20:10:24 I do have a rather....large rc file. 20:10:46 !gamesby reaverb 20:10:47 reaverb has played 195 games, between 2013-05-30 04:12:20 and 2014-05-26 06:00:17, won 1 (0.5%), high score 1478612, total score 3896046, total turns 1643713, play-time/day 0:23:22, total time 5d+21:00:31. 20:11:02 rc length not completely correlated with winrate I guess :) 20:11:18 -!- Moanerette has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:11:21 gammafunk: Well it's quite a bit of copy and pasting other options. :( 20:11:30 reaverb: are you on os x 20:11:37 PleasingFungus: Yes. 20:11:45 the terminal's default settings are wrong 20:11:47 one sec 20:12:00 PleasingFungus: Hmm, thanks. 20:12:06 right, go to preferences & set 'use bold fonts' 20:12:15 or maybe it's 'use bright colors for bold text' 20:12:23 both of those should be on, anyway 20:12:40 amethyst helped me sort this out a few months ago 20:13:11 PleasingFungus: Wow, that's awesome, thanks. 20:13:14 Problem solve. 20:13:21 s/solve/solved/ 20:13:32 (It was just use bright colors for bold text) 20:13:35 yep 20:13:42 not a very obvious correlation between problem & solution 20:14:20 -!- Krymise has quit [Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 20:14:45 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 20:16:37 -!- Arkaniad has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:17:48 -!- notcluie has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:18:18 -!- HDA has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:18:35 -!- Porost is now known as orost 20:24:46 -!- mamgar has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:25:20 -!- ActinalWhomp has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20:25:59 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:27:52 -!- dtsund has left ##crawl-dev 20:34:34 -!- ActinalWhomp has joined ##crawl-dev 20:36:18 -!- Xenobreeder has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:37:51 -!- Brannock has joined ##crawl-dev 20:38:00 What would people saying about nerfing wand acquire slightly? It seems like it's the best choice too often. 20:39:25 do you mean "it's what people recommend all too often" 20:39:42 wheals: Heh, that might be skewing my analysis. 20:39:52 -!- home has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:39:54 -!- Fizybubbleh has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 20:39:57 i often find wand acquirement to not be the best bet 20:40:35 of course i frequently have games where i haven't seen half the wands until very late for some reason 20:40:42 so i might be an outlier 20:41:08 -!- minmay has joined ##crawl-dev 20:42:25 -!- rast- has joined ##crawl-dev 20:42:56 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 20:43:12 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:43:17 -!- rast- is now known as rast 20:43:35 -!- mamgar has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:47:37 -!- rast has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:51:02 yeah wand acquire isn't the best choice until generally a lot later on 20:51:45 -!- crate has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 20:52:09 heh 20:52:15 // Who summoned this monster? Important to know for death accounting 20:52:17 // and the summon cap, if and when it goes in. NULL is no summoner. 20:52:27 someday, there will be a summon cap... 20:52:49 !send PleasingFungus a cap of summoning 20:52:49 Sending a cap of summoning to PleasingFungus. 20:52:56 (fr: a summoning hat unrand?) 20:53:07 six unrand hats and zero unrand helmets... 20:53:19 grave injustice to the helmet peoples 20:53:36 they ride the wild plains, asking, "where are our unique, flavourful helmet artefacts? where?" 20:53:39 but no one answers... 20:54:28 %git :/emove caps 20:54:29 07wheals02 {MarvinPA} * 0.14-a0-1850-g13f5ae3: Remove caps; rename wizards hats "hats." 10(5 months ago, 41 files, 90+ 90-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=13f5ae3d6da4 20:55:19 i think that was actually my first code contribution? 20:55:47 noble 20:56:37 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 20:57:19 -!- palacebeast has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:57:20 -!- crate_ is now known as crate 20:59:41 hm. is doubling the sh effect of shield enchant an obviously terrible idea? 20:59:55 (so a +1 buckler would give +2 SH from the enchant) 21:00:14 it's be a lot simpler than all the other ways to fix shield enchantments... 21:00:19 PleasingFungus: I would prefer the "rescale SH to half what it currently is" 21:00:26 I was talking to nrook. he says that's how it used to be 21:00:28 in the distant past 21:00:38 but sh was actually doubled so that it would be on the same scale as ac/ev 21:03:42 oh, hey, reaverb, I just duplicated the 'error during startup' bug 21:03:43 neat 21:03:45 -!- tksquared has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:03:51 PleasingFungus: Hmm, how? 21:03:54 I 21:03:57 started a new character 21:04:09 and the screen immediately filled with buggy food 21:04:14 Hmm, how odd, I tried that and it didn't work. 21:04:19 Well, it did work. 21:04:24 Blech! Buggy food. 21:04:28 I couldn't reproduce the bug. 21:04:43 PleasingFungus: yeah, I saw the same, but assumed it was my rc file 21:04:44 Happens for me consistently. 21:04:53 I don't think this rcfile is modified. 21:05:11 the default options might reference it? dunno 21:05:18 it being old food 21:05:28 I have default options too and didn't get the bug. 21:05:29 did wheals not grep completely for food tyypes 21:05:55 Pleasingfungus: gammafunk: What version (tiles / console) did you guys use. 21:06:01 I couldn't reproduce on either. 21:06:14 ooh, it's happening to me 21:06:19 Console. 21:06:29 Local. 21:07:25 -!- Mister_Fox has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:07:57 something to do with 21:08:01 !source init_item_name_cache 21:08:01 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/itemname.cc;hb=HEAD#l3688 21:08:14 FOOD_PEAR is in tags.cc 21:08:31 you.force_autopickup[OBJ_FOOD][FOOD_PEAR] = oldstate; 21:10:16 removing that doesn't fix it 21:10:30 Hmm. 21:11:10 i guess just add an exception for old food types 21:11:19 or rename them so they don't have "buggy" in the name 21:12:41 Stairs transferred to Abyss on banish by caleb 21:12:45 <|amethyst> oh 21:13:29 <|amethyst> you should also, for old saves, set you.force_autopickup[OBJ_FOOD][FOOD_FRUIT] = you.force_autopickup[OBJ_FOOD][FOOD_PEAR]; 21:13:47 <|amethyst> (not in that if, but one for the newer tag) 21:15:56 <|amethyst> though I guess since that wasn't done right away, it might be better to do if (you.force_autopickup[OBJ_FOOD][FOOD_FRUIT] == 0) you.force_autopickup[OBJ_FOOD][FOOD_FRUIT] = you.force_autopickup[OBJ_FOOD][FOOD_PEAR]; 21:16:33 <|amethyst> (without the minor tag check, or with a check for a newer minor) 21:17:47 03reaverb02 07* 0.15-a0-1045-gf37cf03: Move duration data to its own file 10(16 minutes ago, 2 files, 172+ 159-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=f37cf03dea6c 21:18:37 -!- MgDark has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 27.0/20131216183647]] 21:23:31 hrm, I've never checked how our makefile auto-checks for object dependancies 21:23:33 -!- Arkaniad|Laptop has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:24:28 <|amethyst> -MMD (inline depgen) or a separate pass with -MD, depending on NO_INLINE_DEPGEN 21:24:47 ah, thanks 21:24:56 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:27:24 -!- Kalir has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 21:27:52 gammafunk: Of couse, if you wanted to change that you would also have to handle the MSVC stuf... 21:29:46 reaverb: what does that have to do with MSVC? 21:30:22 SamB: Does the Windows complication stuff use the same command to auto check for file dependances? 21:30:56 03|amethyst02 07* 0.15-a0-1046-g47a60ce: Constify. 10(8 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=47a60cec7a43 21:30:56 03|amethyst02 07* 0.15-a0-1047-g8b3ed72: Add duration-data.h to the MSCV projects. 10(21 seconds ago, 2 files, 5+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=8b3ed72c90b7 21:31:23 As you can see ^, I'm not really great at the compliation stuff... 21:34:19 reaverb: I don't know how they do that there 21:34:35 but it isn't gcc -MMD or gcc -MD 21:34:39 <|amethyst> manually :) 21:34:45 <|amethyst> oh, dependencies 21:34:50 <|amethyst> not sure about that 21:37:39 -!- category has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:39:04 -!- GiantOwl is now known as Kalir 21:39:05 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 21:42:49 -!- FVG has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 21:46:01 03|amethyst02 07* 0.15-a0-1048-g48b52eb: Correctly carry over old fruit autopickup. 10(7 minutes ago, 2 files, 12+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=48b52eb32c4f 21:46:57 -!- Quashie has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:47:32 -!- Lasty1 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:50:42 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:55:49 03wheals02 07* 0.15-a0-1049-g0c5ebfc: Remove an old reference to OBJ_PEAR (reaverb). 10(43 minutes ago, 1 file, 0+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=0c5ebfc60d93 21:55:49 03wheals02 07* 0.15-a0-1050-g7cbbb86: Debuggify old food (#8599). 10(9 minutes ago, 1 file, 3+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=7cbbb8650108 21:57:38 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:01:30 03|amethyst02 07* 0.15-a0-1051-g921f36b: Restore a new reference to FOOD_FRUIT. 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=921f36bb3813 22:03:40 fr: food bugs 22:04:56 !send gammafunk buggy food 22:04:56 Sending buggy food to gammafunk. 22:05:56 !seen wheals 22:05:56 I last saw wheals at Tue May 27 02:57:38 2014 UTC (8m 18s ago) quitting, saying 'Quit: Leaving'. 22:06:04 he quit 22:08:25 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 22:15:17 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:16:37 -!- magicpoints has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:16:39 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 22:17:23 -!- umrain has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:23:47 Oh wow. 22:23:58 Grunt: What? 22:25:07 Well, I had a problem I was working on, and then I noticed a much larger problem that superseded it and made the first problem go away when I fixed it. 22:25:25 Grunt: Hmm, any specifics? 22:25:31 Watch for the second commit <_< 22:25:34 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 22:25:42 03Grunt02 07* 0.15-a0-1052-gdfbec28: Clear out a residual rat nest. 10(15 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 29-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=dfbec284b340 22:25:42 03Grunt02 07* 0.15-a0-1053-g0224c77: Unbreak layout_falls_marsh. 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 3+ 3-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=0224c773d088 22:27:10 Ah, hmm. 22:31:59 -!- Sonata has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:35:51 -!- Basil has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.7] 22:38:18 -!- conted has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:38:27 -!- magicpoints has joined ##crawl-dev 22:39:34 -!- F-Glex has joined ##crawl-dev 22:40:47 -!- F-Glex has quit [Client Quit] 22:41:07 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:42:17 -!- DrinkMachine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:43:49 -!- Euph0ria has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:43:54 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 22:43:58 -!- Crehl has quit [Quit: qqqqqqq] 22:44:42 -!- Kintak has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:47:37 -!- Kalir has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:49:25 -!- Kintak has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:50:46 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 22:52:38 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:54:37 -!- magicpoints has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:56:00 -!- demiskeleton has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:56:41 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:56:56 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 22:58:11 -!- GiantOwl is now known as Kalir 22:58:11 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 23:03:01 -!- kekekela has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:06:18 -!- gammafunk has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 23:07:00 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 23:08:57 Hmm, I'm trying to remove dur_names[] from wiz-you.cc, but I see two options: 23:10:13 1) Use duration_def.short_text to as the duration names. This means that dur_names can be simply deleted, and any new durations will never have to worry about it again. However, this means the names of each duration will be seen by the player - so they have to keep tone. 23:10:19 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 23:11:19 2) Add the wizard names to duration_def. This lets us keep the wizard names ("qazlal ac" and friends probably beneift best from this) but further clutters the file with another string. 23:12:22 -!- CSDCMS has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:13:10 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 23:13:39 Does anybody have a strong opinon on this? 23:14:23 <|amethyst> Hm 23:14:40 <|amethyst> I think there's a better way 23:14:53 -!- Bcadren has joined ##crawl-dev 23:14:54 <|amethyst> either 3) add a bool to indicate that it shouldn't be in @: 23:16:48 I need to have a discussion about how to make a Roguelike from scratch; because I honestly don't know where to start. Anyone that's done such a thing before PM me. I know it's unrelated to channel topic so I won't have it in channel, but I thought this was a good place to find someone. 23:17:06 -!- SpongeJr has quit [Quit: *squish*] 23:17:13 <|amethyst> or 4) add a new const char * for the name, which can be NULL to indicate the name is the same as the short text 23:17:43 -!- zeia has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:17:54 <|amethyst> 4 is slightly better than 3 in that it allows the two to be different 23:18:13 <|amethyst> also, there are some durations not in duration_data currently 23:19:54 |amethyst: I would also prefer 4. 23:20:14 It's just some of the short_text messages are a little weird to keep tone. 23:20:40 <|amethyst> let me see 23:21:57 "protected from fire" "about to teleport" no string at all, "empathic" etc. 23:24:29 When is the next rebuild of cszo? 23:24:38 in about a half-hour? 23:25:06 -!- DrinkMachine has joined ##crawl-dev 23:25:06 -!- DrinkMachine has quit [Changing host] 23:25:06 -!- DrinkMachine has joined ##crawl-dev 23:25:10 gammafunk: maybe just rebuild it after you push weightless if that's why you're asking :D 23:25:39 well not if it's going to rebuild anyways 23:26:21 -!- CSDCMS has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:27:09 -!- Morik_ has quit [Client Quit] 23:28:29 03gammafunk02 07* 0.15-a0-1054-g3f3b325: Don't have Jiyva tend to reduce strength based on burden 10(2 weeks ago, 1 file, 24+ 13-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=3f3b32540861 23:28:29 03wheals02 {gammafunk} 07* 0.15-a0-1055-gfb02dad: Don't make dancing weapon stats dependent on mass. 10(13 days ago, 1 file, 13+ 18-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=fb02dadd07b4 23:28:29 03wheals02 {gammafunk} 07* 0.15-a0-1056-g959a3ba: Remove two checks based on item mass. 10(13 days ago, 2 files, 15+ 10-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=959a3ba7cfd9 23:28:29 03wheals02 {gammafunk} 07* 0.15-a0-1057-g1ea5aac: Make apportation not depend on item mass at all. 10(13 days ago, 1 file, 2+ 34-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=1ea5aace8179 23:28:29 03gammafunk02 07* 0.15-a0-1058-gb364f15: Don't use inventory weight for the chance of activating a shaft trap 10(10 days ago, 8 files, 4+ 23-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=b364f15f4eef 23:28:29 03gammafunk02 07* 0.15-a0-1059-g55d1b51: Remove player burden and carrying capacity 10(18 hours ago, 44 files, 111+ 553-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=55d1b512e339 23:28:29 03gammafunk02 07* 0.15-a0-1060-g113be5e: Adjust mulch rates for large rocks and tomahawks 10(4 days ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=113be5ec1658 23:28:29 03gammafunk02 07* 0.15-a0-1061-g2371adb: Make corpses and skeletons stationary items (minmay) 10(3 days ago, 15 files, 202+ 68-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=2371adb45923 23:28:29 03PleasingFungus02 {gammafunk} 07* 0.15-a0-1062-gd148ff1: Tweak a tutorial message 10(13 hours ago, 1 file, 1+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=d148ff1bc692 23:28:29 03gammafunk02 07* 0.15-a0-1063-g1601e18: Place carrion below movable items in item stacks 10(84 minutes ago, 1 file, 48+ 8-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=1601e189db52 23:28:30 Asterion dialogue improperly splits into multiple lines by golthoon 23:28:30 here comes the first ever gammafunk flood 23:28:57 great, now you're gonna make me change a single line in my tukima's patch 23:29:09 ps someone fix my tukima's patch (it keeps making two-headed ogres hold bad_item) 23:30:05 pretty sure i fixed that at some point or other 23:30:15 0.14 23:30:19 Did you cherry pick it? 23:30:35 (or even so, maybe the game is on an outdated version) 23:30:42 -!- Morik has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 23:31:20 -!- zxc232 has joined ##crawl-dev 23:31:49 no idea 23:32:06 It doesn't look cherry-picked, even if it was pushed to Trunk. 23:32:18 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:32:27 oh it was part of fixing/removing a bunch of other speech lines 23:32:35 %git be87aab2a 23:32:35 07MarvinPA02 * 0.15-a0-347-gbe87aab: Update/remove some unique speech lines 10(4 weeks ago, 1 file, 18+ 134-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=be87aab2ab79 23:34:00 -!- magicpoints has joined ##crawl-dev 23:34:17 MarvinPA: Are you going to handle that or should I? 23:34:53 go for it 23:37:37 Oh yes, and what do people think of mergeing new_nemelex some time in the next couple days? 23:38:25 -!- Morik_ has quit [Client Quit] 23:39:23 -!- CSDCMS has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:40:16 yeah, I haven't had time to look it over 23:40:23 but I can do that maybe tomorrow 23:40:37 gammafunk: Just to see if there are any code problems? 23:40:44 (That'd be great) 23:40:52 Oh, to see if you would support merging? 23:42:24 well generally with something like a god overhaul we'd try and see; I think my and dpeg's original suggestion is better, but other do feel differently and I want to see the god improved 23:42:55 *god improved rather than nothing happening 23:43:27 I haven't heard much discussion about new_nemelex 23:43:41 I myself haven't played a game yet 23:43:52 Probably because I didn't realize the enum trick and haven't been merging master into it. 23:44:03 So it doesn't have the corrosion change, for instance. 23:44:24 yeah, for something like this, merging for wider play-testing is probably the best option 23:45:44 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 23:49:02 -!- Kramin has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 23:51:37 -!- Amnesiac has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 23:51:48 &version cszo 23:51:49 %version 23:51:49 trunk: 0.15-a0-1022-g33abf97; 0.14: 0.14.1-9-g552248a; 0.13: 0.13.2; 0.12: 0.12.3; 0.11: 0.11.3; 0.10: 0.10.3-19-g6f05415 23:52:34 -!- CSDCMS has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:53:52 03reaverb02 07[stone_soup-0.14] * 0.14.1-10-gba40d31: Fix some Asterion speech. (MarvinPA, #8602) 10(7 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 4-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=ba40d319b5bc 23:55:44 congrats to whomever is responsible for the minivault where the ogre is making beef jerky out of dwarves 23:55:54 you're a sick bastard but i love you 23:58:14 that one might be grunt 23:58:37 |amethyst: So, did you "see" the duration? 23:59:00 ...that sounds like grunt_ogre_cave, yes <_< 23:59:41 goodvault imo