00:00:22 !tell greensnark in case we decide to track gods and ranged_combat logs/milestones/scores like we did nostalgia, files are at: http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/meta/{gods, ranged_combat} 00:00:22 johnstein: OK, I'll let greensnark know. 00:01:22 -!- rchandra has left ##crawl-dev 00:02:23 what's the directory for the gods branch, so i can get it with git 00:03:21 The branch name? 00:03:21 gods 00:03:43 hrm 00:03:45 i think i'm doing this wrong 00:03:58 What are you trying to do? 00:04:11 download the gods branch locally 00:04:26 How are you trying to do it? 00:04:37 <|amethyst> first do git fetch origin 00:04:40 If you have a repo already, you can git fetc-- 00:04:44 aha 00:04:53 * Grunt points at |amethyst, then curses 00:05:12 -!- omnirizon has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:05:20 okay, i did that 00:05:33 git checkout gods 00:06:36 ??book of war chants 00:06:36 book of war chants[1/1]: Fire Brand, Freezing Aura, Shroud of Golubria, Repel Missiles, Poison Weapon, Regeneration. Removed in 0.15. 00:06:38 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 00:06:52 <3 00:08:01 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.15-a0-284-g5d815eb (34) 00:09:10 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 00:09:26 * Lightli hopes for the experimental branches to be updated soon 00:09:53 -!- Infinite_Monkeys has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 00:10:13 oh 00:10:14 I just noticed 00:10:22 ? 00:10:56 lightli: you mean, updated beyond their original implementation? 00:11:11 er, I mean the new ones 00:11:17 to be added to cszo 00:11:23 so I can play them 00:11:36 Cherry-picked 1 commit into gods 00:11:37 Cherry-picked 1 commit into ranged_combat 00:11:49 No tourney message would be a good thing there :b 00:11:49 is that the tourney warning 00:11:54 ahar 00:11:55 yes 00:12:09 <|amethyst> Lightli: you can play them on cbro 00:12:11 just play on cbro :) 00:12:19 cbro is for losers, real men play cszo 00:12:24 this is true 00:12:54 -!- Sgeo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:13:32 anyways, off to sleep, if any of you devs want to comment on the yeti thing just post why it's a horrible idea in the thread, thx 00:14:04 -!- Keanan has joined ##crawl-dev 00:14:05 -!- Lumpydoo has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:15:23 feels like I'm seeing -more- more on the gods version 00:15:35 secret --more-- god 00:15:44 03Grunt02 07[ranged_combat] * 0.15-a0-288-ge5cfea0: Credit attacker, not defender, for attack kills. 10(45 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=e5cfea0afbb9 00:15:46 already found a good ranged_combat bug 00:15:46 what 00:15:49 oh 00:15:57 "Slain by" returns!!! 00:15:59 as in, was pressing 't' to tell my dudes stuff. but I got a -more- before seeing the bottom line of the options 00:16:00 (rip "slain by") 00:16:27 whereas on 0.14, pressing 't' showed me all of the options 00:16:35 so on 0.14, I could press 't, w' 00:16:42 on gods it was 't, space, w' 00:17:15 Grunt: "Your skills are slightlyenhanced by your lust for gold. 00:17:15 " 00:17:20 MarvinPA: doh 00:17:33 how slightly are they enhanced 00:18:05 watching 'hybrid' mode on webtiles is pretty funny 00:18:21 03Grunt02 07[gods] * 0.15-a0-324-gb5421c7: Fix a Gozag message spacing error (MarvinPA). 10(44 seconds ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=b5421c7431a2 00:18:29 That's how I usually play webtiles :) 00:19:27 -!- DrinkMachine has joined ##crawl-dev 00:19:27 -!- DrinkMachine has quit [Changing host] 00:19:27 -!- DrinkMachine has joined ##crawl-dev 00:19:29 MarvinPA: rip 00:19:44 maybe i'll try something that's not guaranteed to be terrible 00:19:49 johnstein: link please? 00:20:00 what is gozag an anagram of 00:20:03 ??cbro 00:20:03 cbro[1/3]: Server in Georgia, US: crawl.beRotato.org -- ssh port 22, username crawler, keys at http://crawl.beRotato.org/crawl/keys (no password access). In case of DNS problems, use crawl.boylecraft.net. Webtiles at: http://crawl.beRotato.org 00:20:18 zagog clearly 00:20:40 I thought it was ggzoa? 00:20:54 gozag ym sagoz has been the name on the gold god proposal for years 00:20:56 -!- Sorbius has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:21:13 reminds me of Gozar 00:21:37 from ghost busters? 00:21:46 Hm, Roguelike set in the ghostbuster universe would be awesome. 00:22:00 Are you a god? [Y/N] 00:22:06 > Y 00:22:13 AHA 00:22:19 gammafunk: ya 00:22:20 PROOF THAT GRUNT HAS GONE MAD WITH POWER 00:22:25 What did you do ray? 00:22:29 Soon he'll bring back rogues_gallery!!! 00:22:31 -!- Naruni has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:22:32 Experimental (ranged_combat) branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.15-a0-288-ge5cfea0 00:22:34 Hey, when someone asks me if I am a god, I am supposed to say yes! 00:22:54 obviously, Gozar should replace 'demigod' 00:22:57 Clearly. 00:23:10 every game starts out "Are you a god" 00:23:12 GOD_DEMIGOD 00:23:28 did you trigger a rebuild grunt? 00:23:46 can experimental get a rebuitd trigger? 00:23:50 yea 00:24:00 I was trying to rebuild after the updates above 00:24:07 but the update-lock was locked 00:24:20 it's ok now 00:24:41 experimental builds basically act the same as regular builds 00:24:56 based on the updates |amethyst made to the dgamelaunch stuff 00:25:25 took me about 20 minutes to get it all ready to go. and that's because I haven't taken the hour or so I would need to set up an automated script to do it for me 00:27:00 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 00:27:22 johnstein: yeah, sorry :) 00:29:58 Experimental (gods) branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.15-a0-324-gb5421c7 00:30:48 -!- gammafunk has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:30:58 -!- Furril has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:31:37 crawl trivia: 00:31:41 the mask of the dragon is described as 00:31:45 grunt: i found a potion petition bug: i got a set of potions that contained resistance and ended with poison which did nothing 00:31:49 A strange blue helm made of hard flexible leather that makes the wearer's face resemble a dragon's visage. 00:31:52 the mask of the dragon is not a helm 00:31:57 it is 00:32:04 search for helm and it will show up 00:32:10 i think 00:32:15 i think it's renamed "mask" but it's technically still a helm 00:32:18 or maybe it's not even renamed 00:32:21 it's a hat 00:32:28 yes 00:32:31 OBJ: OBJ_ARMOUR/ARM_HAT 00:32:41 since "helm"s aren't in crawl i'm free to define them as hats 00:32:48 helm is helmet 00:32:50 come on 00:32:52 let's be reasonable here 00:32:58 helm is a thing you wear on your head 00:33:04 <|amethyst> helm is Sulu's position 00:33:07 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 00:33:15 haha 00:33:17 huh 00:33:19 there is no fixedart helmet 00:33:25 and six fixedart hats 00:33:39 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:33:54 yeah i think i tried to brainstorm some unrand helmets at one time 00:34:10 Grunt, for some reason apparently standing on freezing arrows and getting pelted at by non-branded tomahawks breaks potions 00:34:15 i think there's one on mantis 00:34:21 I almost want to turn mask of the dragon into a helmet 00:34:25 so draconians can't wear it 00:34:30 that'd be rude, I guess 00:34:38 also kind of a different commit from the one I'm working on 00:34:58 people can wear people masks (qv: silence of the lambs) 00:35:21 also 00:35:26 salamander hide armour is kind of fucked up 00:35:28 if you think about it 00:35:51 it could just be made out of ordinary salamanders 00:35:57 (i.e. not the kind that is sentient) 00:36:01 that's a different kind of weird 00:36:09 considering that they're tiny amphibians 00:36:12 but why would those be fireproof? 00:36:13 yeah, not a lot of skin on your average salamander 00:36:15 yeah that too 00:36:18 it just doesn't add up 00:36:29 wow i've never seen #7611 before 00:36:31 anyway I have a solution in my description path 00:36:32 it does, as long as you have two thousand tiny lizard skins 00:36:33 *patch 00:36:38 these are interesting proposals all right 00:36:40 !bug 7611 00:36:40 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=7611 00:36:49 oh that one 00:36:51 oh yeah that's the one i was going to close 00:36:52 I honestly really like 'enum' 00:36:57 it's a cool mechanic 00:37:07 wow this one also has a disto buckler 00:37:15 need more unrand bucklers 00:37:18 Skyshard, right? 00:37:19 yes it's a popular theme somehow 00:37:24 the others are dumb but 'enum' is really interesting & distinctive 00:37:26 Basil: yep 00:37:29 skyshard is a different one 00:37:30 skyshard is the other one 00:37:34 this one is "gateway buckler" 00:37:34 well 00:37:36 yes 00:37:36 that's argonauts 00:37:37 Oh 00:37:43 popular idea then 00:37:48 I still love that argonaut tried to add a golden fleece 00:37:57 -!- gammafunk has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 00:38:16 I guess you'd have to re-code enum if you actually wanted to add it now 00:38:22 because ew scrolls were changed 00:38:25 and this helmet idea is just the hat of the high council :/ 00:38:37 nah it doesn't have the wild magic 00:38:38 except without the drawback 00:38:39 does it? 00:38:41 yeah 00:38:41 yes 00:38:43 that's the interesting part 00:38:49 archmage hat is just dumb 00:39:12 ??glowinghat 00:39:12 hat of the high council[1/1]: the +2 hat of the High Council {Archmagi, Wiz- Stlth-}. New for 0.14. Think of it as a hat of wild magic - more spell power but less spell success. 00:39:16 hm. the robe of night talks about "Ratri the Goddess of the Night" 00:39:23 would it make sense to change this to a dith ref 00:39:26 don't remove :( 00:39:31 hmm 00:39:36 How would Bub interact with Dj 00:39:49 wheals: ? 00:39:53 -!- pwnmonkey has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 00:40:00 ratri is an actual irl god 00:40:09 i like the weirdness of referencing a god you never see 00:40:13 'flavour' 00:40:16 yeah, that's also kind of nice 00:40:43 i like it when item descriptions suggest things you never get to encounter because you decided to go around doing dungeon murders instead of seeing the world 00:40:52 that's reasonable 00:41:01 plus, maybe dith had a kid 00:41:16 or a mom 00:41:24 sort of weird to reference actual goddesses 00:41:29 but I guess we also have the bow in there 00:41:50 ratri would also technically be the only gendered god still in crawl 00:42:53 wait 00:42:56 golden dragon (08D) | Spd: 10 | HD: 18 | HP: 90-127 | AC/EV: 15/7 | Dam: 40, 20, 2007(trample) | see invisible, fly, !sil | Res: 06magic(192), 05fire, 02cold, 10elec, 03poison, 12drown | Chunks: 09poison | XP: 4175 | Sp: b.fire (3d27), b.cold (3d27), poisonous cloud (3d11) | Sz: Huge | Int: animal. 00:42:56 %??golden dragon 00:43:04 the armour of the dragon king is 00:43:05 hm. 00:43:13 I guess xtahua is intelligent 00:43:22 another thing made out of an intelligent creature, yes 00:43:27 03Grunt02 07[gods] * 0.15-a0-325-g87e2b99: Don't let BEAM_FRAG shatter potions in inventory. 10(80 seconds ago, 1 file, 0+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=87e2b99769af 00:43:32 but 'seizing the rulership' of animal-intelligence creatures is 00:43:34 a weird concept 00:43:38 Good latent bug. 00:44:40 -!- Keanan has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 00:45:26 -!- Keanan has joined ##crawl-dev 00:48:19 -!- Roarke has quit [Client Quit] 00:49:38 -!- KurzedMetal1 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:55:38 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:58:48 -!- Quazifuji_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:58:50 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:59:13 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 01:01:18 -!- ahahaha has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:02:08 -!- BirdoPrey has quit [Quit: BirdoPrey] 01:03:50 -!- nicolae- has left ##crawl-dev 01:04:07 Experimental (gods) branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.15-a0-325-g87e2b99 01:08:37 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Quit: Connection reset by pier.] 01:17:36 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:20:19 03Grunt02 07[ranged_combat] * 0.15-a0-289-g19d9593: Print monster wounds for ranged attacks. 10(74 seconds ago, 1 file, 3+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=19d9593722df 01:20:37 (going to sleep now; rebuilds will stop for now :b) 01:22:29 -!- Keanan has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 01:26:19 Experimental (ranged_combat) branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.15-a0-289-g19d9593 01:29:18 -!- fungee has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 01:33:55 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 01:35:52 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 01:50:36 -!- notcluie has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:53:37 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:53:41 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 01:55:18 -!- namelastname112 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:57:55 -!- Phoenix8410 has joined ##crawl-dev 02:08:41 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 02:11:56 -!- SkaryMonk has joined ##crawl-dev 02:18:03 -!- MiraclePrism has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 02:19:03 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 02:19:21 -!- Hailley has quit [Quit: Petra is closed!] 02:20:22 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Quit: Drowning in a sea of anguish] 02:21:21 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:25:37 -!- Basil has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 02:31:01 -!- Red_Bucket has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:32:14 -!- SkaryMonk1 has joined ##crawl-dev 02:32:57 -!- absolutego has joined ##crawl-dev 02:33:56 -!- SkaryMonk has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:35:28 -!- Orfax has quit [] 02:37:23 -!- simmarine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:49:18 -!- indspenceable has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 02:49:32 Qazlal starts kinda slow 02:49:36 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 02:49:42 but it gets pretty hectic later on 02:50:39 -!- st_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:51:12 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 02:53:15 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 02:59:09 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:59:28 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 03:02:21 -!- Eracar has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 03:04:37 -!- ac13 has quit [Client Quit] 03:04:48 -!- conted has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:09:36 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:20:44 -!- indspenceable has quit [Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. 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In case of DNS problems, use crawl.boylecraft.net. Webtiles at: http://crawl.beRotato.org 06:46:25 -!- debo has quit [Quit: debo] 06:47:37 -!- Nethris has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 06:48:42 -!- Feles has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:52:04 -!- Nethris has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 06:54:33 -!- dpeg has joined ##crawl-dev 06:56:19 -!- DrinkMachine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 06:59:51 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:59:58 -!- rast- has joined ##crawl-dev 06:59:59 -!- rast- is now known as rast 07:03:03 03gammafunk02 07* 0.15-a0-285-gad4c9ec: Redesign of the water palace Depths vault 10(6 weeks ago, 2 files, 76+ 73-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=ad4c9ec8c895 07:05:47 -!- Chris7 has quit [] 07:06:15 -!- absolutego has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:07:18 -!- Kintak has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 07:09:00 -!- Keanan has joined ##crawl-dev 07:10:49 -!- Keanan has quit [Client Quit] 07:14:02 Is now a good time to suggest removal of carrying capacity? 07:14:36 I'd remove the inventory slot limitation sooner, it's just so arbitrary! 07:14:56 -!- absolutego has joined ##crawl-dev 07:15:33 Zaba: that won't happen: only 2 * 26 letters 07:16:08 also, the number is indeed arbitrary, the limit is meaningful (Brogue has a much tighter one ==> hellish decisions, but Brogue is also a lot smaller) 07:16:16 yes, it's one bad case where the interface dictates gameplay limitations ;) 07:16:52 I am saying that a cap on what you can carry is good. I am not saying that 52 is the sweet spot. 07:17:02 yes, I agree with that 07:18:03 People were happy with removing weights (with exceptions possibly only for large rocks), so that seems like easy pickings 07:18:18 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:18:45 !seen Grunt 07:18:46 I last saw Grunt at Mon Apr 28 06:20:37 2014 UTC (5h 58m 8s ago) saying '(going to sleep now; rebuilds will stop for now :b)' on ##crawl-dev. 07:21:14 item weights seem to be something that's included just because weight is the most mundane feature of an item imaginable and everybody takes it for granted 07:21:40 yes, but it seems to have very little gameplay value, so we can dispense with it 07:22:02 it hardly contributes to "realism" since you carry ridiculous amounts of stuff anyway (let's add item volumes!) 07:22:06 (it's a bit like the plethora of food items: easy to do, and realistic, not deep or useful= 07:22:38 weight is sometimes meaningful for very low Str characters and for users of large rocks and javelins 07:24:58 isn't carrying capacity one of the main reasons to boost Str for certain characters? 07:25:18 I'm not sure how significant that is for the meaningfulness of the stat in general 07:26:07 it used to be, but Str now matters more for combat 07:30:54 -!- clouded_ has joined ##crawl-dev 07:31:06 -!- st_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:33:33 does that mean casters would have no reason to add to Str at all? 07:33:58 -!- debo_ has joined ##crawl-dev 07:35:11 -!- Crehl has quit [Quit: qqqqqqq] 07:38:47 if they are "pure", yes 07:39:07 (unless we use Str for interesting other things, like constriction-defense etc.) 07:39:16 hmm. 07:39:23 -!- ldf has joined ##crawl-dev 07:43:31 -!- fungee has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 07:44:35 -!- fuuu has quit [Quit: http://lice.muppetz.com] 07:49:21 -!- indspenceable has quit [Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. 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10:14:57 <|amethyst> CC? 10:15:07 carrying capacity 10:15:20 we had this plan to remove item weights, except possibly for large rocks (and javelins?) 10:15:45 <|amethyst> If someone objects to discussing it, they can not participate in the discussion :) 10:15:48 among the rule changes I want to propose for 0.15, this seems the smallest and least controversial (the others are: no chunk eating; monsters don't pick up items) 10:16:14 |amethyst: true dialectis :) I am more concerned about the timing 10:16:25 -!- radinms has quit [] 10:16:45 <|amethyst> I think now is a good time for planning large changes for 0.15 :) 10:17:16 alright, will give it a go! 10:17:51 <|amethyst> I wonder if being able to effectively carry more corpses will change necromancer play at all 10:18:10 <|amethyst> particularly with regards to what to do before/after taking stairs 10:19:30 03Grunt02 07[gods] * 0.15-a0-326-gc4804ec: Indicate gold-costing abilities properly on ability ! screen. 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 8+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=c4804ec738fd 10:19:30 03Grunt02 07[gods] * 0.15-a0-327-gb44bded: Whitespace fix. 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=b44bdedd5fa9 10:21:43 -!- predator117 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:26:09 [17:16:45] <|amethyst> I think now is a good time for planning large changes for 0.15 :) 10:26:14 dg get +1 apts instead of -1 10:26:30 [crowd gasps in shock] 10:26:44 -!- DaimyoKirby has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:27:16 -!- Foamed has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 10:27:23 ??dgwn 10:27:23 dgwn[1/2]: when I first started playing I met some Japanese players who were remarkably better than anyone I've seen play, to this day, and they said that Demigod Wanderers were so easy to ascend with that they classified runs as DgWn runs and Non-DgWn runs 10:28:53 -!- Lightli has joined ##crawl-dev 10:29:29 -!- PolkaDot has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 10:29:39 * Grunt writes a few general words to crd. 10:30:21 Grunt: Quick feedback on the storm god: It goes ridiculously well with trolls 10:32:48 -!- Piginabag has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:33:15 -!- zxc232 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 10:34:18 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:34:44 03Grunt02 07[gods] * 0.15-a0-328-g75e1cfe: Don't show a meaningless Gozag piety indicator on webtiles. 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=75e1cfe7b34b 10:35:59 -!- Mandevil has quit [Quit: leaving] 10:36:30 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 10:36:38 -!- drachereborn has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:38:34 Mutt (L2 DEFE) ERROR in 'mon-util.cc' at line 1436: bogus mc (no monster data): invalid monster_type 1000 (1000) (D (Sprint)) 10:38:43 -!- Phoenix8411 has joined ##crawl-dev 10:39:52 Cherry-picked 1 commit into master 10:39:53 03Grunt02 07[stone_soup-0.14] * 0.14.1: Changelong for 0.14.1. 10(44 minutes ago, 1 file, 12+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=7225c62f1965 10:41:05 Mutt (L2 DEFE) ERROR in 'mon-util.cc' at line 1436: bogus mc (no monster data): invalid monster_type 1000 (1000) (D (Sprint)) 10:42:35 <|amethyst> Proposed Dg buff: only winning Dgs get to make their own randgod 10:42:56 neil the God of Death 10:43:45 more custom titles for dg 10:43:47 God of War 10:43:52 God of Fire 10:44:12 God of Being Charming 10:44:28 ...that last one might be a little long 10:44:33 <|amethyst> Grunt: What do you think of "Plutocrat" instead of "Tycoon"? 10:44:52 <|amethyst> I guess "Tycoon" is more in line with the others 10:46:30 -!- xnavy_ is now known as xnavy 10:46:44 -!- rast- has joined ##crawl-dev 10:46:50 You'll have to ask dpeg :) 10:47:11 -!- rast- has quit [Client Quit] 10:47:39 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 10:47:44 -!- rast has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:48:40 -!- indspenceable has quit [Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 10:49:25 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 31.0a1/20140427030204]] 10:53:38 "changelong 10:55:25 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 10:56:52 -!- dpeg_ has joined ##crawl-dev 10:56:59 blammo, missed some randgod discussion 10:57:12 no time right now, though: playing the kids, now preparing dinner 10:57:31 -!- dpeg has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 10:58:20 -!- bmfx has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:01:57 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 11:03:23 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 11:03:51 "LordSloth: New En tactic: Spray and pray" 11:08:01 Experimental (gods) branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.15-a0-328-g75e1cfe 11:08:43 + // Don't place shops on the last level of a branch; it's too mean. 11:08:48 -!- chthon has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:09:08 does this mean that if the last level(s) available are on the last level of the branch you can't get a shop? 11:09:36 seems a little mean 11:10:14 Hi, shop in the ending vault. 11:10:23 Good to know that I need to get the rune before I can visit your shop. 11:10:32 (I guess that's less of an issue with more recent changes than that.) 11:15:30 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 11:16:19 Stable (0.14) branch on crawl.lantea.net updated to: 0.14.1-0-g7225c62 11:22:30 -!- NeremWorld has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:22:36 -!- blabber has joined ##crawl-dev 11:23:18 -!- ystael_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:23:38 -!- Nerem has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:25:08 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:25:09 but both of you have a point: in general, branch end is the worst place for a merchant -- but if there are only branch ends left, then it's mean to not give the shop in the first place 11:27:17 -!- Aryth has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:29:29 (See also: Vaults:5 shops) 11:32:26 -!- fuuu has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:34:20 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:36:48 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:38:45 Grunt: is there a reason that there's a list of potion lists instead of just generating one randomly? 11:38:48 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:39:35 oh, i see it in the proposal now 11:44:26 03Grunt02 07[gods] * 0.15-a0-329-gf5ff881: Spray gold instead of buggy chunks for Gozag disint kills. 10(89 seconds ago, 1 file, 24+ 10-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=f5ff88135bb6 11:45:33 oh 11:45:47 I think I see how I can handle new gods without bumping save compat. 11:45:58 I hope I don't have to resort to it though. :( 11:46:26 1learn add save_compat 11:48:24 -!- bmfx has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:48:29 Grunt: also, after 35f261e0 it tries hard to not place the shop in a non-encompass vault, so except for shoals/vaults 5 getting a shop on the last floor of a branch shouldn't be too bad 11:48:38 -!- Eracar has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:49:22 -!- Akien has joined ##crawl-dev 11:49:41 I don't want to get *really* specific with the special casing here. 11:50:54 -!- Ququman has joined ##crawl-dev 11:51:58 -!- namelastname112 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:52:56 i didn't mean that it should actually check the branch for those two, just thinking that placing in a branch end doesn't sound _too_ bad 11:53:09 and what's a horatio alger story without a little struggle 11:53:51 -!- Blazinghand|Work is now known as Blazinghand 11:55:59 chukamok (L13 DjFE) ERROR in 'dbg-scan.cc' at line 716: Exit exit_ice_cave[155] didn't get generated. (IceCv) 11:56:04 chukamok (L13 DjFE) ERROR in 'dbg-scan.cc' at line 716: Exit exit_ice_cave[155] didn't get generated. (IceCv) 11:56:08 chukamok (L13 DjFE) ERROR in 'dbg-scan.cc' at line 716: Exit exit_ice_cave[155] didn't get generated. (IceCv) 11:56:09 chukamok (L13 DjFE) ERROR in 'dbg-scan.cc' at line 716: Exit exit_ice_cave[155] didn't get generated. (IceCv) 11:56:10 chukamok (L13 DjFE) ERROR in 'dbg-scan.cc' at line 716: Exit exit_ice_cave[155] didn't get generated. (IceCv) 11:56:28 Dj 11:56:29 ... 11:56:32 -!- ToastyP_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:56:41 chukamok (L13 DjFE) ERROR in 'dbg-scan.cc' at line 716: Exit exit_ice_cave[155] didn't get generated. (IceCv) 11:56:41 (I bet this is a save transfer issue) 11:56:50 chukamok (L13 DjFE) ERROR in 'dbg-scan.cc' at line 716: Exit exit_ice_cave[155] didn't get generated. (IceCv) 11:56:55 -!- us17 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 11:57:51 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 11:58:40 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 11:59:17 !send indspenceable explanations 11:59:17 Sending explanations to indspenceable. 12:00:18 -!- MiraclePrism has joined ##crawl-dev 12:03:12 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:03:33 Stable (0.14) branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.14.1-0-g7225c62 12:03:40 -!- thundamoo has joined ##crawl-dev 12:05:58 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 12:09:34 03wheals02 07* 0.15-a0-287-g89a5294: Remove some equip/unequip messages. 10(7 minutes ago, 3 files, 2+ 110-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=89a5294bf5ff 12:09:53 -!- tksquared_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:10:47 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 12:10:55 -!- dpeg_ has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 12:11:02 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:11:19 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 12:11:29 -!- gammafunk has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:12:26 chukamok (L13 DjFE) ERROR in 'dbg-scan.cc' at line 716: Exit exit_ice_cave[155] didn't get generated. (IceCv) 12:13:13 grunt: is there a known bug for Q's first ability? 12:13:20 johnstein: huh? 12:13:24 it just makes black boxes 12:13:34 mm 12:13:36 then doesn't seem to damage the enemies 12:13:45 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 12:13:56 I stopped using it since I didn't know if it was doing anything 12:16:10 also, what does Q provide for 0 and 1 star of piety? that wasn't clear to me 12:16:32 I can't remember when I saw the random puffs of flame and storms 12:16:50 but at the low level I wasn't able to really utilize them well 12:16:56 which is perhaps the point 12:17:10 At 0* you get nothing. 12:17:18 1* you start getting a SH bonus and occasional clouds near you. 12:17:47 -!- indspenceable has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:17:58 ah ok. I didn't see the SH bonus 12:18:17 I'm loving killing centaurs 12:18:17 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 12:18:20 with clouds 12:18:24 and having rmsl 12:18:40 I just can't seem to effectively use the first ability 12:19:01 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.15-a0-286-g93205b7 (34) 12:19:15 It's pretty wimpy at rock bottom invo. 12:19:22 Train invo a bit if you want it to be useful. 12:21:24 yea I have been 12:22:07 is it context sensitive? 12:22:39 ie, it does something different based on the terrain you cast it on? 12:23:13 -!- indspenceable has quit [Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 12:24:24 -!- Mad_Wack has quit [Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 12:24:25 nm I found the tavern thread 12:26:45 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 12:27:12 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:29:55 03wheals02 07* 0.15-a0-288-gf1bfef0: Fix a problem with randart jewellery (N78291). 10(4 minutes ago, 1 file, 7+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=f1bfef0f0008 12:32:47 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:37:31 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 12:43:20 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 12:44:31 -!- Basil has joined ##crawl-dev 12:44:45 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 12:44:55 -!- Basil is now known as Guest39566 12:45:51 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 12:48:09 -!- CKyle has quit [Client Quit] 12:52:41 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 12:53:47 -!- scummos^ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:54:35 -!- Guest39566 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:54:52 -!- Basil__ has joined ##crawl-dev 12:57:59 -!- krag has joined ##crawl-dev 12:59:18 -!- BigBluFrog has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:01:18 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:02:39 -!- MgDark_DrCj has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:08:14 -!- PsyMar has quit [Quit: What do we want? 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Maybe going into the negatives? 13:57:53 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 13:58:44 I just got drained a ton and after killing maybe 4 orc warriors and a bunch of other random orcs I'm still at 0 across the board. There doesn't seem to be a floor, but also no real indicator at how I'm doing in terms of working back that draining. 14:00:36 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:00:37 -!- GDR has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:03:11 -!- absolutego has quit [Quit: leaving] 14:05:20 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 14:10:55 Experimental (gods) branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.15-a0-330-g864fb47 14:11:23 03Grunt02 07[gods] * 0.15-a0-330-g864fb47: Make Qazlal's Upheaval more usable at low Invocations. 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=864fb47e411f 14:12:17 -!- Danei has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 14:12:18 -!- notcluie has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:14:42 %git :/glyphs 14:14:42 07wheals02 * 0.15-a0-271-g6095dc6: Fix some reversed 0.14_monster_glyphs.txt entries. 10(22 hours ago, 1 file, 5+ 5-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=6095dc63a3d9 14:17:30 |amethyst: it might be prudent to update monster for the new glyphs; also a 0.14 branch for the code may be a good idea so that that happens before any major changes happen that would affect it in 0.15. 14:18:34 chukamok (L13 DjFE) ERROR in 'dbg-scan.cc' at line 716: Exit exit_ice_cave[155] didn't get generated. (IceCv) 14:18:36 chukamok (L13 DjFE) ERROR in 'dbg-scan.cc' at line 716: Exit exit_ice_cave[155] didn't get generated. (IceCv) 14:18:38 chukamok (L13 DjFE) ERROR in 'dbg-scan.cc' at line 716: Exit exit_ice_cave[155] didn't get generated. (IceCv) 14:19:43 -!- swayze has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:19:46 Oh, related to the glyph overhaul, I have a suggestion: Move golems from 8 to 9. 14:20:50 Similar to f and P distinguishing plants based on mobility, it makes more sense for golems to be grouped with gargoyles (as "mobile constructs") than for golems to be grouped with immobile statues. 14:27:12 -!- rml has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:28:08 phantom (02p) | Spd: 10 | HD: 7 | HP: 26-52 | AC/EV: 3/13 | Dam: 1006(blink self) | 07undead, 10doors, evil, lev, !sil | Res: 06magic(37), 02cold++, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm, 04napalm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 124 | Sp: blink | Sz: Medium | Int: normal. 14:28:08 %??phantom 14:28:11 lies 14:29:12 Monster stats Crawl version: 0.14-a0-3606-g5d7b986 14:29:12 %??-version 14:29:18 ancient 14:29:28 I ran mapgen when testing my new map, and I discovered something horrible 14:29:41 neither my lair nor my crypt vaults were able to place! 14:30:06 which is weird, since they do place reasonably frequently with chance 100% 14:31:48 s/mapgen/mapstat/ 14:32:05 They *are* pretty big vaults. 14:32:19 yeah but, the water palace is larger than any of those 14:32:21 and it does place 14:32:27 Grunt: seriously you probably should be able to petition at starving 14:32:36 something strange is afoot 14:32:42 especially since it doesn't cost hunger 14:32:46 Basil__: :| 14:33:01 and the bear cave is not large at all 14:36:13 03Grunt02 07[gods] * 0.15-a0-331-g6c4b7ad: Don't crash when blasting yourself with Qazlal's Upheaval. 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=6c4b7ad81d8f 14:36:13 03Grunt02 07[gods] * 0.15-a0-332-g794fddc: Allow Gozag's Potion Petition when Starving (Basil). 10(53 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=794fddcccb40 14:36:25 Experimental (gods) branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.15-a0-332-g794fddc 14:36:33 yeah, it's weird, with chance 100% gammafunk_lair_bear_cave places reasonably often 14:36:36 (todo think about how that last bit works) 14:36:45 hooray 14:37:20 but never shows up as used 14:38:04 despite generating over lair:3-7 twice (so 100 x 5 x 2 levels of lair) 14:38:26 and that generation doesn't have chance: 100%, of course 14:38:30 although now I should try that 14:39:06 subvaults? some uniq stuff 14:39:13 who did the goldilocks vault 14:39:15 ? 14:40:08 There's a vault with three bears of various sizes. 14:40:22 And two potions of porridge along with one honeycomb. 14:40:30 !vault minmay_lair_goldilocks 14:40:31 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/dat/des/branches/lair.des;hb=HEAD#l965 14:40:54 It's nice and funny. 14:42:50 -!- Keanan has joined ##crawl-dev 14:44:52 ...huh, and I add chance 100% and it shows up 200 times 14:45:11 is there some default downweighting going on that I'm missing? 14:45:54 03Grunt02 07[gods] * 0.15-a0-333-ga8abdc0: Display Qazlal's SH boost properly in webtiles. 10(42 seconds ago, 1 file, 3+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=a8abdc0463e6 14:45:56 Experimental (gods) branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.15-a0-333-ga8abdc0 14:47:59 -!- Basil__ is now known as Basil 14:48:19 Basil: vinestalker fix when 14:48:57 interesting, I don't need to ask players to save and reload to activate a JS fix; doing so on my own will cause me to see it :) 14:50:19 soon 14:50:20 ish 14:50:48 is soon very close to now 14:51:01 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 14:51:13 i don't think that removing a bug with lichform rot is a super-high priority 14:52:18 who's talking about lichform 14:52:32 VS is perfect otherwise, everyone knows that 14:52:50 poison 14:59:42