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@mfc feak 02:42:57 27. johnstein the Scratcher (L5 FeAK of Lugonu), slain by an ogre (a +0,+0 giant club) on D:4 on 2014-04-24 06:27:12, with 333 points after 5062 turns and 0:21:46. 02:43:03 -!- DrinkMachine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:47:53 -!- Satonakaja has quit [Quit: Sayonara, Zetsubou Sensei!] 02:49:56 -!- Whistling_Bread has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:01:23 -!- bones___ has joined ##crawl-dev 03:02:49 -!- bones__ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:07:36 -!- Whistling_Beard has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:11:28 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:14:10 elliptic: precisely how many inputs per second do you restrict qw to 03:14:39 it approximately has a 0.1 sec delay per turn 03:15:40 cool 03:16:24 I wonder if we could analyze ttyrecs to determine the maximum inputs per second for human speedrunners 03:16:58 what I really care about is figuring out how many keys it is reasonable for a human to press per second 03:17:02 looks like watching on cszo is broken? 03:18:17 -!- Wolfechu has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 03:20:50 -!- Whistling_Bread has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:22:51 yeah 03:23:19 -!- Keanan has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 03:26:41 -!- Morokiane has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 03:27:46 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 03:29:36 -!- simmarine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:35:18 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:36:29 -!- Red_Bucket has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:38:12 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:42:04 -!- Patashu_ has joined ##crawl-dev 03:42:04 -!- Patashu has quit [Disconnected by services] 03:47:12 -!- qoala has quit [] 03:50:09 -!- bmfx has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 03:50:44 |amethyst: console spectating on CSZO seems broken (in the usual way, it just hangs if you press W) 03:54:10 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:54:27 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 03:54:53 -!- Netmonmatt has 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04:27:07 -!- Spatzist has quit [Quit: Page closed] 04:32:17 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:34:42 "Unlinked item held by dead monster" in Elf:3. by conted 04:35:38 -!- Basil__ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:37:07 -!- Bcadren has joined ##crawl-dev 04:37:25 Why are spectral things all magic(immune) regardless of the base monster? 04:37:41 -!- Pepe has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 04:39:45 Player ghosts and illusions of players with non-capitalized names are capitalized by chris 04:43:32 -!- Crehl has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 04:46:17 I know you can wizmode in mutations, but can you make it act like a racial mutation? 05:10:26 -!- Bcadren has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 05:10:49 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 05:16:02 -!- Z_LAMP has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:19:38 -!- Netmonmatt has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:21:37 -!- Crehl_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:25:38 -!- Netmonmatt has quit [Ping 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really worth the effort 06:11:24 does it just fail? 06:12:15 ??bia 06:12:15 brothers in arms[1/3]: Trog's **** power. Spends (piety/20 - 1) piety points to /temporarily/ summon an always-friendly, berserk bear, ogre, troll, or hill|stone giant. Higher piety gives nastier friends. Since these are berserk they will move quite fast and deal damage rapidly. 06:12:17 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 06:12:50 yeah, I think it wastes the turn and piety 06:13:06 Aren't Stone Giants able to walk in deep water? 06:13:13 although I just kept seeing qw's INVOKING BIA messages 06:20:18 -!- namelastname112_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:23:26 Bcadren: yes 06:23:44 -!- DrKe has quit [] 06:24:56 Then why wouldn't it just summon that into the deep water? o_o; 06:25:12 well there's that nasty thing called piety, for one 06:26:27 Those are the high piety -only- spawn I guess? 06:32:03 -!- debo has quit [Quit: debo] 06:32:43 -!- SkaryMonk1 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 06:33:25 -!- SkaryMonk1 has joined ##crawl-dev 06:33:44 I would be surprised if bia decides what to spawn based on surrounding terrain 06:33:48 -!- Ragdoll has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:33:50 (as opposed to picking first and then seeing if it's placeable) 06:34:00 I mean, bia doesn't need a buff such as 'guarantee you will get a stone giant' 06:36:44 -!- PolkaDot has quit [Read error: No route to host] 06:37:04 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:38:42 Taking piety before checking if it's usable is pretty stupid though... 06:39:15 Admittedly Fedhas's Growth can end up trying to place plants in lava which is bit worse. 06:40:09 -!- Lasty1 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 06:43:11 -!- BlackrayJack has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 06:44:59 -!- Crehl_ has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 06:52:05 -!- Dugar has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 06:52:24 -!- Chris7 has quit [] 06:59:07 -!- st_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:02:05 -!- Z_LAMP has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:05:41 -!- MakMorn has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 07:07:14 -!- MakMorn has joined ##crawl-dev 07:09:25 -!- ZRN has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:10:00 but using BiA in deep water CAN be usable 07:10:02 (stone giant!) 07:10:08 maybe it should just give a warning 07:10:17 'This invocation will only do anything if it decides to summon a stone giant. Proceed anyway?' 07:10:22 it wouldn't be hard to code 07:12:02 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 07:22:14 -!- absolutego has quit [Quit: leaving] 07:24:04 LOL Or...or...it could not take piety if it fails to summon something. 07:27:12 Just a thought: when talking about -new branches- or -new portals- we always say the area needs a unique feature and unique enemies to float. Well, of the existing areas; the places that have that the least is...the hell branches. I mean sure hell effects makes it different than the rest of the dungeon, but...the individual branches feel very monotonous. All of them have random zombies, there are a few demons, all of which are also f 07:27:58 bcadren: your message cut off after "all of which are also fo" 07:28:28 But I think people are more pleased with reusing existing monsters when possible -- the key is to make the new area different and interesting in some way. 07:28:31 -!- Nethris has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 07:29:26 found in Pan and Hell. Only the hell lords and effects of hell are unique to hell. And outside of the hell lords, hell spawns are somewhat weaker than pan and abyss. (Biased more to the undead side than those areas, but still). 07:30:05 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 07:30:25 Bcadren: it reuses monster sets but introduces new and different mechanics: hell effects and one-way, semi-random stairs. 07:30:52 -!- Whistling_Bread has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:31:03 Yea I admit the 1 way stairs are unque...but that's one of the multitude of things that makes hell easier. 07:31:19 The idea isn't proliferation of new monsters, but to make new content feel in some way interestingly different from existing content 07:31:50 Do you feel that Hell is too easy and that it is a problem? 07:32:02 Golubria Wizlab portal in Abyss by Sar 07:32:32 -!- nooodl_ has joined ##crawl-dev 07:32:45 ' 07:34:24 Hell may be different than Abyss or Pan, but the variety of monsters is less, it's a good deal easier and...it has four branches that aren't that different from each other. 07:34:25 -!- Sgeo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:34:50 Their list of hell effects, layouts, and spawn lists are all different. 07:35:05 -!- Voker57 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 07:35:21 The variety doesn't have to be as deep because you don't spend as much time in each Hell 07:36:00 -!- nooodl has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 07:36:09 The challenge isn't the placed monsters, its the ones that spawn from Hell effects 07:37:09 And...if you have control undead those are nothing because most of them are undead that are weaker than Crypt's placed monsters. 07:40:27 hell effect spawns also make it a lot -faster- to scum hell than anywhere else. 07:42:09 scum hell for what? 07:42:15 exp? 07:42:55 BCadren: are you seriously proposing that people would choose/want to scum Hell for XP? 07:46:00 I have done that actually especially on undead characters and gotten hell runes before lair branch runes. Hell currently feels stupidly easy. Fiends are somewhat dangerous, everything else is a waste of time by the time you are supposed to be doing it... 07:46:18 if you do it early...bunch of bags of XP with a few things that are actually dangerous. I once even had the case of almost dying to the amount of stuff in the vestibule, getting the icy rune going back, almost dying in the vestibule again so...scumming cocytus for XP so I could leave hell or make it to another branch. 07:49:56 -!- Z_LAMP has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:54:35 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:54:51 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 07:57:25 -!- Z_LAMP has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:05:05 -!- Ragdoll has joined ##crawl-dev 08:06:50 -!- fungee^ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 08:07:27 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 08:07:28 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 08:09:35 -!- MiraclePrism has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 08:12:17 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 08:12:36 -!- Eonwe6 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:12:38 -!- blackflare has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:14:05 -!- Crehl__ has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 08:21:28 -!- iFurril has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 08:26:18 -!- Flun has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:26:31 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 08:26:52 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 08:30:25 -!- Eracar has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:30:58 -!- ActinalWhomp has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:32:37 -!- SkaryMonk2 has joined ##crawl-dev 08:33:33 -!- SkaryMonk1 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 08:34:58 -!- LexAckson has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:35:04 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 08:46:03 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 08:47:22 -!- stanzill is now known as stanzwecha 08:52:44 -!- vogonpoet has quit [Quit: Page closed] 08:54:55 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 08:54:57 -!- SurpriseTRex has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:58:17 -!- nosrepemos has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 08:59:29 -!- Amnesiac has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 08:59:36 gammafunk: arguably it is a bug in crawl that it lets you attempt to use BiA in situations like that where it is guaranteed to do nothing 09:00:16 -!- SkaryMonk2 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 09:01:26 -!- Patashu_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 09:03:52 -!- Crehl has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 09:12:13 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 09:12:23 Chris7 (L10 OgCK) ASSERT(!in_bounds(you.pos()) || !cell_is_solid(you.pos()) || you.wizmode_teleported_into_rock) in 'main.cc' at line 4427 failed. (D:9) 09:17:44 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 09:19:21 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 09:20:40 is it just me or is it inconsistent that TSO gives you piety/health for killing an orc sorcerer but doesn't allow you to attack them if they're distracted? 09:21:20 seems okay to me 09:21:41 okay, just asking 09:21:47 they are just overlapping rules 09:22:20 i like to think it's because orcs *could* become tso worshippers 09:22:38 so the honor code applies to them 09:30:47 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 09:32:32 -!- Mateji has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:35:22 !crashlog chris7 09:35:24 1. 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[Summon Imposter: Summons a very weak ally with no attacks...Enemies consider it an ally and won't attack it. (allowing you to avoid AoE spells). Summon Ring Target: Summons a High HP construct with no attack. Enemies are more likely to attack the target than normal allies.] 10:23:39 Regarding the first, couldn't you use it to completely block a hallway? If not, how would it be different from a spell that simply prevented all enemies from using AOE attacks on you? 10:24:02 -!- rchandra has joined ##crawl-dev 10:24:08 The second is pretty similar in effect to Guardian Golem 10:27:34 In the first it behaves like an enemy with 0HD and no attack...Enemies can swap places with it. And it's different because some enemies don't care (Hellions will even kill the Deep Elves that summoned them if you are in close enough range, for example). And besides, it's not like there's a hex that block AoE attacks. 10:28:05 -!- Morg0th has quit [Quit: leaving] 10:31:58 -!- PolkaDot has quit [Read error: No route to host] 10:32:18 -!- Xenobreeder has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:35:13 -!- Mandevil has quit [Quit: leaving] 10:36:02 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:36:46 -!- radinms has quit [] 10:39:53 -!- Mateji has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 10:41:36 -!- Akien has joined ##crawl-dev 10:42:39 <|amethyst> Bcadren: except most enemies *can't* swap with most other enemies 10:42:50 <|amethyst> Bcadren: only things of the same letter in general 10:44:39 I believe that each monster makes a decision about when to harm themselves/allies with AOE based on the remaining HP of the victims (and maybe some notion of the value of a given ally?). Hellions will refrain from using hellfire under the right conditions, unless they have a different AI than other AOE-using monsters. 10:45:21 And my point about not being different from just disallowing ranged attacks is 1) you might as well just make the spell do that, and 2) that spell is both powerful enough and niche enough to be problematic. 10:45:37 -!- nooodl_ is now known as nooodl 10:45:41 <|amethyst> the evaluation of whether to blow up allies goes by HD 10:45:54 <|amethyst> so 0 HD wouldn't work and 1 HD wouldn't either 10:46:21 It also involves hp, right? A deep elf mage won't fireball you at point blank if it has 100% hp, but it will if it has 1% hp 10:46:49 iirc I checked and the code doesn't actually check hp 10:48:02 That's odd. I've relied on mages not fireballing me at point blank when they're at high health, and I'm pretty sure it's never happened, but I've definitely seen them suicide on me. 10:48:12 <|amethyst> it does use the ratio of final-damage/pre-ac-damage 10:48:43 but that's not capped by actual hp, right? 10:49:13 <|amethyst> ??deep elf mage 10:49:13 deep elf mage[1/2]: Low-level magic user in Elf; not much of a threat in general, but with randomised spells (same as Erolcha, wizard, ogre-mage) can occasionally pull nasty suprises, such as Lehudib's Crystal Spear or banishment. Low MR. See {erolcha spells}. 10:49:17 deep elf mage (06e) | Spd: 10 | HD: 6 | HP: 19-36 | AC/EV: 0/13 | Dam: 5 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, spellcaster | Res: 06magic(48) | Chunks: 07contam | XP: 214 | Sp: b.magma (3d14), stone arrow (3d12) / flame tongue (3d9), sticky flame range (3d4), fireball (3d14), throw flame (3d6) / freeze, throw icicle (3d14), sum.ice beast / magic dart (3d4), force lance (3d10), battlesphere, mystic blast (3d12) / mystic blast (3d12), slow, b.venom (3d11), blink | Sz: Medium | Int: high. 10:49:17 <|amethyst> %??deep elf mage 10:49:35 |amethyst: how does it use that? Will it refrain from using the fireball if it thinks not enough damage will pass through AC? 10:49:36 -!- ActinalWhomp has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:49:36 -!- Eracar has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:49:52 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 10:50:36 -!- Roarke has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:51:17 <|amethyst> Lasty: if the tracer shows the monster will take only half damage because of AC and resists, it only counts half as much when determining whether to avoid fireballing it 10:51:31 Ah, I see 10:51:47 <|amethyst> as far as I can tel, though, it doesn't care how much actual HP the monster has 10:51:51 <|amethyst> s/tel/tell/ 10:51:55 Even if that monster is itself? 10:52:50 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 10:53:45 You know mid-level necro spells (Control/Dispel Undead; Death Channel and Simulacrum) are some of the most powerful spells in the game...then all the high level Necro spells (Necronomicon Exclusives) are Primarily to completely...defensive. I'm not completely sure I like that. Especially since the capstone (highest level spell) is Necromut, which is largely seen as more of a Super-Conjurer util spell. 10:55:01 <|amethyst> Lasty: I'm not seeing anything involving hit points in beam.cc or mon-cast.cc but maybe there's somewhete I'm missing 10:55:12 yeah, I did this same exercise a few weeks ago 10:55:16 because I thought the same thing 10:58:23 -!- blabber has joined ##crawl-dev 11:00:50 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 31.0a1/20140419030204]] 11:04:56 Buff Trog's Hand, nerf lich form by chris 11:05:32 -!- DrKe has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 11:07:47 -!- HellTiger_ has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 11:10:49 -!- fungee has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:11:09 -!- Lawman0 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:11:34 -!- debo has quit [Quit: debo] 11:12:18 -!- PiginaBAG has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:14:31 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 11:14:59 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 11:15:04 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:16:58 |amethyst: in case you missed my message earlier, CSZO seems to be having a couple issues - spectating in console doesn't work and pages on dobrazupa.org aren't loading (at least for me) 11:19:44 I can't connect to dobrazupa.org either. 11:19:54 <|amethyst> just restarted apache, try again 11:20:08 works 11:20:35 not loading for me either 11:20:57 hey, now it does :) 11:21:00 |amethyst: loads now, thanks (spectating in console still fails though) 11:21:18 |amethyst: two runes for the Emperor Scorpion, my last attempt for a win 11:21:42 <|amethyst> elliptic: removed the shm segment, should work now 11:21:49 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 11:21:52 -!- thetabyte has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:21:57 <|amethyst> elliptic: I think the two were unrelated 11:22:24 works now, yes :) 11:23:49 FIre: The only spell school with no pure spells. 11:25:11 -!- Dugar has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:32:55 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 11:33:00 Xpym (L20 TeCj) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (Vaults:4) 11:33:01 flinch (L20 VpSu) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (Crypt:3) 11:33:08 Stable (0.14) branch on crawl.lantea.net updated to: 0.14.0-25-g43f8a4e 11:37:35 Spell concept: Necrosis: (Pure Necromancy: 9): Attempts to rot all flesh in LoS. Turns Zombies into Skeletons, causes corpse rot and damages all living things. If you aren't undead when casting, you also get 'Your Flesh is Rotting Away' along with damage. Generates a huge amount of miasma (3x3 clouds centered on corpses and zombies affected and anything killed by it.) 11:39:07 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 11:44:11 |amethyst: I failed once more, I am just not good at this game. 11:44:41 -!- Keanan has joined ##crawl-dev 11:45:49 -!- ActinalWhomp has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:46:10 -!- Basil__ has joined ##crawl-dev 11:46:27 -!- Eracar has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:48:22 -!- bones__ has joined ##crawl-dev 11:48:32 -!- GummyVite has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:49:12 <|amethyst> dpeg: you've got double my tourney score :) 11:49:13 -!- bones___ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:50:52 -!- Eracar has quit [Client Quit] 11:52:18 -!- Flun has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:52:29 |amethyst: my condolences :) For me, it's just another tourney without a win. 11:53:25 * Bcadren didn't do tourney. I do have a win in the timeframe though lol 11:55:08 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:55:34 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 11:56:25 Can we make Servitors Smart enough to not...try to combine Freezing Cloud and Bolt of Magma? 11:58:31 -!- Foil has quit [Client Quit] 11:58:46 -!- GDR has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:00:13 -!- dpeg has quit [Quit: leaving] 12:00:38 Rename "vampiricism" to "vampirism" by chris 12:00:38 Rename "bow" to "shortbow" by chris 12:03:17 -!- nooodl_ has joined ##crawl-dev 12:03:43 Stable (0.14) branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.14.0-25-g43f8a4e 12:04:12 -!- alefury has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Iceweasel 28.0/20140319124030]] 12:06:14 -!- nooodl has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:07:29 kiddie bow :p 12:07:52 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.15-a0-225-ga4013df (34) 12:09:18 -!- blackflare has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:12:18 -!- Kellhus has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:13:45 #8429 is probably a dupe of #8394, which needs to be upgraded to 'crash' 12:14:26 http://i.imgur.com/RWYBAFV.png 12:14:30 is this supposed to happen? 12:15:08 -!- BigbluFrog has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:20:00 -!- GDR has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:20:59 -!- alefury has joined ##crawl-dev 12:21:40 -!- reaverb has joined ##crawl-dev 12:22:21 -!- Eracar has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:22:41 Is there meant to be any differance between "resolved" and "closed" on mantis? I know some projects use those catagories for specific reasons but I can't see a pattern in how Crawl's project uses it. 12:22:41 reaverb: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 12:23:29 Kvaak wut? 12:23:58 reaverb: "closed" is something we let the submitter do 12:24:10 after it is resolved 12:24:13 elliptic: Ok, thank you. 12:24:28 but the difference certainly isn't very useful for us 12:27:34 -!- zxc232 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 12:32:26 -!- NekoRex has quit [Client Quit] 12:33:22 -!- ahahaha has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:34:38 -!- Bcadren has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 12:35:17 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 12:38:50 -!- ToastyP_ has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 28.0/20140314220517]] 12:41:19 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 12:41:23 -!- Eracar has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 12:43:45 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 12:54:35 -!- nooodl_ is now known as nooodl 12:54:48 -!- Quazifuji_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:57:26 -!- thetabyte has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:59:27 -!- Ququman has joined ##crawl-dev 13:01:17 -!- Bcadren has joined ##crawl-dev 13:03:15 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 13:08:34 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 13:10:17 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 13:10:54 -!- CKyle has quit [Client Quit] 13:11:08 -!- thetabyte has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:11:30 -!- Mad_Wack has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:11:40 -!- blackflare has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 13:13:02 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 13:13:19 -!- rast- has joined ##crawl-dev 13:13:42 -!- rast has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:13:46 -!- rast- is now known as rast 13:14:03 -!- GDR has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:16:35 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:17:15 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 13:17:33 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 13:17:44 -!- Foamed has quit [Quit: Heading to bed.] 13:18:11 -!- Pisano has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 13:21:51 -!- debo has quit [Quit: debo] 13:25:03 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 13:29:13 -!- DrKe has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:31:52 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 13:31:58 -!- Bcadren has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:35:32 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 13:37:54 -!- CKyle has quit [Client Quit] 13:39:54 -!- Eracar has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:41:48 -!- PalythWork has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:42:15 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 13:45:10 -!- CKyle has quit [Client Quit] 13:47:52 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 13:55:07 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 13:55:29 -!- Lightli has joined ##crawl-dev 13:56:41 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:57:53 -!- Bcadren has joined ##crawl-dev 14:01:42 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 14:04:54 -!- alang has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:07:45 -!- mngrif has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:07:46 -!- codehero has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:07:53 -!- Basil__ is now known as Basil 14:09:57 -!- MgDark_MiBe has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 27.0/20131216183647]] 14:10:38 -!- MiraclePrism has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:13:02 -!- Kaput_ is now known as Kaput 14:15:42 -!- notcluie has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:18:00 Grunt? You can also always message me here in Freenode 14:18:00 Napkin: You have 13 messages. Use !messages to read them. 14:18:14 I'm here :) 14:18:22 I read all private messages and most of the nick hi-lights in here 14:18:29 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 14:18:41 you've got mail ;) 14:18:49 I'm just used to trying to contact people when I actually see them here, I guess. <_< 14:19:08 also, you can reach most devs via @crawl.develz.org 14:20:05 -!- thetabyte has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 14:20:27 i usually create that forwarding address when a new dev joins.. let me guess i forgot you? 14:20:43 -!- Fizybubbleh has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 14:20:44 Let me check. 14:21:35 ah, no, i added you some time ago, it seems :) 14:22:16 -!- GDR has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:32:44 -!- BigBluFrog has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:34:59 -!- ayutzia has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:38:22 -!- asdu has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:38:57 mm 14:38:58 okay 14:39:25 I think I have everything I need for the most important part, namely building signed packages; once I have those I'll figure out how to get them into the repository :) 14:40:51 check if there are scripts for that in ~/bin 14:41:08 I didn't see any. 14:44:17 wait, let me check the shell history on the old server 14:44:25 Okay. 14:45:57 <|amethyst> Napkin: package list on the old server might be useful too, to see whether it was reprepro, apt-move, dak, ... 14:46:34 for you maybe, since you know what packages are related ;) 14:46:50 <|amethyst> looking at https://wiki.debian.org/HowToSetupADebianRepository 14:47:58 -!- rchandra has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:48:08 reprepro is used 14:49:18 reprepro -bdeb list stable 14:49:32 found similar entries in the shell history 14:49:46 -!- stanzwecha is now known as stanzill 14:49:52 which is also on the new server, Grunt, so you should be able to see what he did 14:50:00 mm 14:50:43 installed reprepro 14:52:19 Okay, I'll dig further into that once I have packages :) 14:52:31 (maybe if I feel ambitious I will also do a trunk build!!) 14:52:46 <|amethyst> :) 14:52:49 hehe 14:54:42 * Grunt stumbles across the update-mingw scripts while looking through things... 14:55:43 -!- rchandra has joined ##crawl-dev 14:55:57 mingw currently don't work 14:56:10 need a different mingw compiler, it seems 14:57:33 previously i had mingw installed from some website (lost the link) 14:57:42 the debian package of mingw doesn't work 14:58:04 doesn't work = the libraries in place to be linked are not compatible anymore 14:58:43 The one I used to do the 0.14 builds was wheezy's mingw-w64 (which, despite the name, is quite happy to do the 32-bit builds that the Crawl source requests). 14:59:09 what sdl library did you use? 14:59:55 The one in the contrib submodule. 15:00:26 (which reminds me, I should get back to work on the SDL2 port at some point <_<) 15:01:01 sorry, busy now 15:02:07 (for whenever you get back:) I'm familiar enough with the build process by now that were that installed I could probably get the build scripts working again one way or another. 15:02:34 the build scripts aren't the problem 15:02:53 I'm not talking about the scripts, fortunately :) 15:03:13 (er, for familiarity purposes, that is) 15:03:46 -!- Mad_Wack_ has quit [Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 15:06:07 Buggy message while shopping. by n1000 15:06:07 Buy items on shopping list? (Y/n) results in purchasing duplicate items by n1000 15:09:42 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 15:09:56 An ontoclasm suddenly becomes a titanic ontoclasm. 15:10:54 -!- DrKe2 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:12:53 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:13:22 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 15:15:03 -!- BlackrayJack has quit [] 15:15:11 -!- Azzkikr has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 15:15:48 -!- SkiChan has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:17:06 hm 15:17:16 I can anticipate a roadblock with this, but we'll see when I get there. 15:17:30 -!- Voker57|2 is now known as Voker57 15:17:42 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 15:18:21 -!- Blazinghand|Work is now known as Blazinghand 15:18:21 -!- blabber has quit [Quit: leaving] 15:26:20 -!- kekekela has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:28:37 ??ontoclasm[2] 15:28:37 ontoclasm[2/13]: !learn edit ontoclasm[2] s|.*| learn add ontoclasm ontoclasm[2/2]: _ontoclasm_: The ontoclasms merge to form a Titanic Ontoclasm! 15:28:45 Exactly :b 15:34:21 yesssssssssssssss 15:34:28 I have updated the debian repository!!!!!!!!!! 15:36:41 -!- rast- has joined ##crawl-dev 15:37:05 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:37:10 -!- rast- is now known as rast 15:42:59 <|amethyst> packages signed and all? 15:43:28 <|amethyst> Now to find those 20 different threads in tavern etc :) 15:46:58 -!- thetabyte has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:49:34 -!- mamgar has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:51:06 I am going to do a trunk build before I mention anything <_< 15:51:46 -!- fufumann has quit [Quit: und weg...] 15:54:48 -!- yogidabear has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:57:36 -!- reaverb has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 15:59:05 -!- DrKe has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 16:01:17 -!- Napcat has quit [Quit: leaving] 16:02:29 -!- LexAckson has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:05:13 -!- rchandra has left ##crawl-dev 16:07:10 -!- rast- has joined ##crawl-dev 16:08:14 -!- rast has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:08:23 -!- rast- is now known as rast 16:10:16 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 16:11:29 -!- Krakhan has quit [Changing host] 16:12:29 -!- ToastyP has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 28.0/20140314220517]] 16:12:53 -!- Crehl has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 16:12:55 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 16:14:41 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:18:52 -!- the_glow has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:23:28 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:25:02 -!- Eracar has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 16:27:12 -!- Akien has quit [Quit: Quitte] 16:29:00 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 16:30:37 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:30:59 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 16:33:05 good job, grunt! 16:33:08 g'night o/ 16:33:43 Thanks! 16:34:08 I may take a crack at the mingw thing later if you can fill me in on the details. 16:34:16 Go sleep now, though :) 16:34:38 -!- Lasty1 has joined ##crawl-dev 16:35:36 -!- SkiChan has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:37:29 -!- Quashie has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 16:37:44 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 16:40:53 -!- HDA has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:42:18 -!- MgDark_MiBe is now known as MgDark_GrGl 16:43:48 -!- rast has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:44:39 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 16:49:11 -!- Lasty1 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 16:51:00 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 16:54:09 -!- bzn has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:55:30 -!- Sanddman_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:58:44 -!- mngrif1 is now known as mngrif 16:59:28 -!- Chris7 has quit [] 16:59:31 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 17:00:28 -!- Mad_Wack has quit [Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. 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agree they should be different 19:06:40 but the doll tile and the ground tile should match if possible 19:06:43 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 19:06:54 feel free to make runed leather blue or something 19:07:04 Rikonman (L16 KoBe) ASSERT(in_non_diamond_int(r.start)) in 'ray.cc' at line 217 failed. (Swamp:1) 19:07:21 Grunt: what's the qazlal altar tile look like 19:07:49 Bloax: now to make dragon armour not look awful 19:07:56 haha 19:08:28 i actually had a thought on that 19:08:42 Would be nice with some rough designs. 19:08:50 the thing you made for troll hide is nice but wasted where it is 19:09:03 so i might use that as the base and make a new hide tile 19:09:07 wasted and wasted :^) 19:09:28 nobody ever wears troll hide 19:09:35 -!- Lasty1 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 19:09:37 oh troll hide 19:09:41 yeah 19:09:46 troll leather is good 19:10:01 but the hide is a cool tile nobody ever sees 19:10:38 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 19:11:36 -!- Lasty1 has joined ##crawl-dev 19:11:56 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/63152810/n/crawl/slayer.png it's tragic players are rarely this stylish though 19:12:12 -!- Lasty1 has quit [Client Quit] 19:12:21 oh, that's another thing i wanna change 19:12:22 cloaks 19:12:34 they're crazy oversaturated and have no texture at all 19:13:02 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/63152810/n/crawl/Duvessa2x.png so obviously they should look crazy instead 19:14:35 crunchy cloak 19:15:01 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 19:16:03 -!- stanzill has quit [Quit: on y dort peut-ętre] 19:17:39 Although if we're talking about cool tiles nobody ever sees then https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/63152810/n/crawl/irontrollarmor.png this is probably a more extreme candidate of such. 19:25:50 -!- Guest15879 is now known as Basil 19:25:54 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:28:32 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1000017/crawl/dragon_armour.png 19:29:07 that would probably be fda or oda, then we can go up and down from there 19:29:32 (wrong color of course, i was just changing the shape) 19:30:03 hm 19:31:19 so gda would have big armour plates instead of the "chain" parts 19:31:41 while eda would look like a robe mostly 19:32:32 i did consider giving it a sort of... motif 19:32:38 that all dragon armours would share 19:32:49 likea distinctive shoulder piece or something 19:33:17 but i think it's probably not necessary 19:33:34 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/63152810/n/crawl/gda.png 19:34:03 sure 19:34:14 actually i hate doing ground tiles, so if you wanted to make those 19:34:20 i can do the doll tiles 19:35:04 well doll tiles give a visual representation of the ground tiles, so that's okay 19:35:15 since the thing i'm lacking is ideas 19:35:23 yeah 19:37:02 > irontrollarmor.png 19:37:03 -!- Keanan has joined ##crawl-dev 19:37:11 wait what 19:37:21 Clearly s/troll/dragon/ 19:39:11 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 19:41:46 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:42:01 -!- rast- has joined ##crawl-dev 19:42:03 -!- rast- is now known as rast 19:42:23 -!- umrain has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:42:23 -!- chris-oelmueller is now known as Guest19772 19:43:10 -!- ChrisOelmueller has quit [Disconnected by services] 19:43:22 -!- Guest19772 is now known as ChrisOelmueller 19:48:10 -!- Manslay| has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:48:11 -!- codehero has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:00:04 christ i should not have done this 20:02:33 Bloax: ? 20:02:58 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/63152810/n/crawl/gda.png 20:03:00 those shoulders 20:03:08 specifically doing the left side right 20:03:09 aaaaaaaa 20:07:39 hah 20:09:15 nightmarish 20:10:26 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1000017/crawl/dragon_armour.png 20:10:29 four done 20:10:56 huh, I like the style of the gda. reminds me of gba games 20:10:56 are you working in hard colors or with gradient maps 20:11:12 gradient maps 20:11:25 your sprites have too many colors for me to do by hand quickly 20:11:30 haha 20:11:38 -!- SomeoneAwful_ has quit [Client Quit] 20:13:09 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/63152810/n/crawl/paleblue.png 20:13:30 Might be a cooler blue to use. 20:13:48 -!- asdu has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:14:14 i guess i could desaturate it a bit 20:18:00 -!- soundrage has quit [Quit: K] 20:18:11 -!- nonethousand is now known as n10000 20:18:23 -!- n10000 is now known as nonethousand 20:19:08 03wheals02 07* 0.15-a0-228-g8c2e7e4: Fix Phantom Mirror being able to mirror uniques. 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=8c2e7e4ca9e8 20:19:47 wheals: Why is that a bug? I'm just curious, I would think that would be a feature. 20:20:13 I think it was just too strong for a random monster to have 20:22:31 // Don't pluralise uniques, ever. 20:22:50 lol 20:22:50 hmm 20:22:54 plural uniques is just kind of mara's thing 20:22:57 Good thing that didn't happen while I was fighting Lom 20:23:17 -!- Zermako has quit [Quit: good night!] 20:23:49 !learn edit basil[1] s/$/, purple ugly things?? 20:23:50 Basil[1/4]: ?immo explode on death, finisher, prune, shop book ID, disable !mag for VS?, fix VS necromut rotting, make disc of storms not anger Fedhas?, Firestarter fire cloud immunity?, uncap Screaming Sword damage?, fix VS color, remove twisted resurrection?, purple ugly things?? 20:25:10 -!- maha_ has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 28.0/20140314220517]] 20:25:34 wheals: Thanks for explaining your reasoning though. 20:25:50 it's not wheals' reasoning 20:25:56 it was a bug that it could pluralise uniques 20:25:59 as evidenced by the comment 20:26:04 so it's just making code match specification 20:26:16 heh 20:26:28 it actually didn't pluralise them, you had 3 Boris 20:26:37 and so on 20:26:42 Borises? 20:26:43 Borii? 20:26:46 Patashu_: A) The specification can be changed B) That comment refers to the text code "Never say you have 3 Borises" 20:26:54 Oh, ok 20:27:12 I have no idea why the text code handles that though, sense Mara has to special cased to be exempt from that anyway. 20:28:13 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 20:29:37 -!- SamB has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:33:09 -!- pisano has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20:33:16 ontoclasm: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/63152810/n/crawl/gda2.png right 20:33:26 I think I wrestled it out alright. 20:33:27 looks good 20:33:53 looks ornate as fuck 20:34:35 yep 20:35:17 ...wait, ida is blueish isn't it 20:35:28 it's white 20:35:29 instead of white 20:35:59 -!- vede has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:36:36 well, the doll tile is currently blue but i'm willing to change that 20:36:45 sinec the dragon is clearly white 20:36:58 The inventory tile is white too. 20:37:08 yes 20:37:09 that too 20:37:24 ??pearl dragon armour 20:37:25 pearl dragon armour[1/1]: 10AC, 11ER, 40aum, rN+. 20:37:41 http://rltiles.sourceforge.net/dc-item.html 20:37:45 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 20:37:49 Is there a way to edit your online macros.txt? 20:37:59 http://rltiles.sourceforge.net/dc-pl.html 20:38:02 <|amethyst> m or M in the ssh interface 20:38:02 |amethyst: You have 2 messages. Use !messages to read them. 20:38:04 <|amethyst> not in webtiles 20:38:04 i see it used to be blue-er 20:38:06 Or alternatively just put macros in your rc file. 20:38:11 it's definitely a leftover from this 20:38:15 Mara (13R) | Spd: 10 | HD: 18 | HP: 140 | AC/EV: 10/14 | Dam: 30 | 05demonic, 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, evil, see invisible, !sil | Res: 06magic(144), 05fire++, 03poison, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 4614 | Sp: blink; b.fire (3d27), mara summon, sum.illusion, pain (d17), 04esc:teleport self | Sz: Medium | Int: high. 20:38:15 <|amethyst> %??mara 20:38:38 |amethyst: Hmm, Ok. (No webtiles really looks me into a server) 20:38:41 locks. 20:39:26 <|amethyst> !tell wheals I think the Mara ; is something to do with blink being a special ability rather than a spell 20:39:26 |amethyst: OK, I'll let wheals know. 20:39:34 ah, ok :) 20:41:32 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 20:42:24 <|amethyst> reaverb: would need some changes to webtiles to support sending/receiving rc-editing messages, but it could be done 20:42:36 <|amethyst> reaverb: how's your Python and JavaScript? :) 20:42:50 <|amethyst> s/rc-/macro-/ 20:42:52 |amethyst: I bet it would be easier to just make it possible to put macros in rc files <_< 20:42:58 <|amethyst> heh 20:43:05 -!- Eracar has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:43:35 |amethyst: Python was my first programming language. Unfortuantly, I did not stick with it long and remember very little about it. I have never used Javascript. 20:44:58 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1000017/crawl/dragon_armour.png 20:45:07 done 20:45:36 you can't put macros in rcfiles? 20:47:30 (those are all the dragon armours right) 20:47:45 <|amethyst> I bet you could do additional_macro_file = dummyuser.rc 20:50:17 |amethyst: Hmm, I'll try that. One sec. 20:51:18 -!- Xenobreeder has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:51:22 ontoclasm: Seems like so. 20:52:46 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/63152810/n/crawl/stda1.png https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/63152810/n/crawl/stda2.png 20:52:50 and here's a little dilemma 20:53:59 -!- darktwinge is now known as Twinge 20:54:28 storm dragons don't seem shiny to me 20:54:42 not yet! 20:54:54 the higher up we go the shinier we get 20:55:02 just look at https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/63152810/n/crawl/gda2.png this damn thing 20:57:21 i think it looks too busy, there's too much contrast 20:57:29 -!- mamgar has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:57:40 but i'll see what it looks like in-game 20:58:08 |amethyst: That doesn't seem to work either. 20:59:04 -!- vede has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:01:05 |amethyst: The additional_macro_file = dummyuser.rc thing. 21:01:07 -!- vede has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:03:01 it's funny that you can set keybindings in the rcfile but not macros 21:03:21 -!- rchandra has joined ##crawl-dev 21:03:32 wheals: I suspect it would be pretty easy to change that. 21:03:41 it would certainly be nice to be able to set macros via rc 21:04:00 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 21:05:41 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/63152810/n/crawl/dragon_armour2.png 21:06:32 Would I make an Options.rc_macros which takes a string? (as a simple way of making rc files accept macros) 21:06:35 also while we're on the topic of heavy armor 21:06:40 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/63152810/cpa.png remember dis 21:09:41 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 21:09:57 <|amethyst> I'd rather extract the code out of the loop in _read_macros_from 21:10:19 <|amethyst> and have a function that parses and executes one macro line 21:10:20 -!- CatPlusPlus has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:10:43 <|amethyst> then that can be called from both _read_macros_from and initfile.cc 21:11:13 -!- thekdawg21 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:11:20 -!- vede has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:11:28 <|amethyst> and also from lua 21:11:41 <|amethyst> (with the right wrapper of course) 21:11:54 -!- CatPlusPlus_ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 21:12:20 |amethyst: That does seem like a better plan. 21:14:32 |amethyst: Is there any legitamite reason to currently write "M:" "K:" or "A:" in an rc file? I might be easiest just to run _read_macros_from() on every rc file. 21:15:09 -!- SurpriseTRex has quit [Quit: SurpriseTRex] 21:16:02 -!- Foamed has quit [Quit: Heading to bed.] 21:16:44 -!- alefury has quit [] 21:17:21 I might be good to be able to alter macros with lua eventually, but currenlty macro_init() is only called once so more extensive changes would have to made to do this. 21:22:36 -!- Hailley has quit [Quit: Petra is closed!] 21:26:41 -!- ivan`` has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 21:27:27 -!- Eronarn has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:27:51 -!- Wensley_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:29:06 -!- Eronarn has joined ##crawl-dev 21:30:38 -!- ivan`` has joined ##crawl-dev 21:31:37 done 21:32:20 -!- Bloax has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:35:11 03ontoclasm02 07* 0.15-a0-229-g6ef07e7: Dragon armour doll tiles 10(4 minutes ago, 17 files, 0+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=6ef07e755533 21:37:51 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:37:56 -!- Wensley has joined ##crawl-dev 21:37:58 -!- tcsc has quit [Quit: bye!] 21:38:20 -!- Wensley is now known as Guest53480 21:41:27 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:41:51 -!- rast- has joined ##crawl-dev 21:41:55 -!- rast- is now known as rast 21:43:13 -!- omnirizon has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:44:36 -!- qoala has joined ##crawl-dev 21:44:51 -!- home has quit [Changing host] 21:48:49 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:51:24 -!- tcjsavannah has quit [Quit: tcjsavannah] 21:52:23 Ok, I got reading macros from rc files working, although I might want to make it less hacky. 21:52:42 It just treats your rc file like it's and additional_macro_file right now. 21:52:54 s/and/an/ 21:53:29 -!- Watball has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:57:23 <|amethyst> reaverb: I think you can crash that 21:57:43 |amthyst: Really? How? 21:57:44 <|amethyst> I mean, you can do an illegal memory access with a bad line 21:58:20 <|amethyst> if you have a K:foo line and the digit isn't really a digit 21:58:57 <|amethyst> it doesn't do the key = parse_keyseq stuff, but keymc is changed anyway to an out of bounds value 21:59:10 <|amethyst> then if you have an A: line there's an out of bounds access to Keymaps 22:00:02 <|amethyst> you'd only be able to go out of bounds by 208 * sizeof(map) 22:00:15 <|amethyst> err, 207 == 255 - '0' 22:00:18 -!- yogidabear has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:00:29 |amethyst: Yes it does doe the parse_keyseq stuff, I literally just run _read_macros_from you the rc file. 22:00:45 <|amethyst> reaverb: right, this is a problem with macro files too 22:01:08 <|amethyst> but is probably something we want to fix before enabling manual macro editing on servers 22:01:23 <|amethyst> (whether via the rc file or via editing the macros file) 22:02:19 <|amethyst> oh 22:02:25 |amethyst: How is being able to change the macros file from telneting in not "manual macro editing on servers" 22:02:26 ? 22:02:29 <|amethyst> you have to have a plain K: line or valid K line first 22:02:34 <|amethyst> reaverb: oh right 22:02:44 <|amethyst> so I guess it's something that needs to be fixed :) 22:03:07 <|amethyst> (need the valid line so that keymap = true) 22:03:16 -!- trystero has quit [Client Quit] 22:03:29 |amethyst: So it's not a new problem, so no need to hold back progress before it's fixed? 22:03:55 <|amethyst> right 22:04:02 Also are you secretly recoiling in horror is is my _read_macros_from() hack fine? 22:04:09 s/is/or 22:04:21 <|amethyst> I think there are some edge cases where it would be bad 22:04:40 -!- rossi has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.3] 22:04:44 <|amethyst> people with multi-line strings embedded in their lua in their rc 22:05:00 <|amethyst> where something might start with M: or such theoretically 22:05:32 |amethyst: Yeah I thought so. 22:09:46 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:10:38 03wheals02 07* 0.15-a0-230-g89cd172: Remove giant goldfish. 10(72 minutes ago, 19 files, 26+ 68-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=89cd17299013 22:12:11 wheals: +++ 22:12:27 wat 22:12:46 unknown monster: "giant fish" 22:12:46 %??giant fish 22:12:49 giant goldfish (04;) | Spd: 10 | HD: 7 | HP: 23-52 | AC/EV: 5/7 | Dam: 15 | cold-blooded | Res: 06magic(28), 12drown | XP: 125 | Sz: small | Int: reptile. 22:12:49 %??giant goldfish 22:12:56 big fish (09;) | Spd: 10 | HD: 4 | HP: 13-31 | AC/EV: 1/12 | Dam: 8 | cold-blooded | Res: 06magic(16), 12drown | XP: 42 | Sz: little | Int: reptile. 22:12:56 %??big fish 22:13:40 rip fish 22:14:01 removing big fish would be better though 22:14:25 -!- thetabyte has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:14:37 but sewer balance 22:14:57 psch 22:15:02 "balance" 22:15:03 ontoclams: Why would I want the fish to rest in peace, given their crimes against fun? I would far rather damn them to an eternity in Kiku's tortue chambers. 22:15:20 they were adorable is why 22:15:31 i like green more than orange 22:15:36 mm 22:15:59 ontoclasm: Then recolor the old goldfish tile and make it the new big fish tile or something. 22:16:06 hah 22:16:39 actually i could've sworn somebody made a fish tile 22:16:47 and it got forgotten somewhere 22:20:11 * Grunt rages at wheals for making it impossible to maintain the glyph overhaul patchset. 22:20:22 Please stop removing things until that goes in :b 22:20:29 !send Grunt RAGE 22:20:30 Sending RAGE to Grunt. 22:20:36 * Grunt goes berserk! 22:20:53 * wheals rages. 22:20:56 well it's not like people are going to flock away from the tourney to play with new glyphs 22:21:09 if that's all it's waiting on 22:21:21 or to play no-goldfish games 22:22:46 fr monstrous demonspawn still get scales 22:25:54 03|amethyst02 07* 0.15-a0-231-ga618dc0: Avoid a crash parsing bad keymap lines in macro files. 10(17 minutes ago, 1 file, 3+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=a618dc043d23 22:25:55 Cherry-picked 1 commit into stone_soup-0.14 22:28:16 !lg * ckaux~~dispel x=ckaux 22:28:17 445. [ckaux=by dispel undead] ldf the Necromancer (L24 GhNe of Kikubaaqudgha), blasted by ldf's illusion (dispel undead) (woven by Mara) on Elf:3 on 2014-04-24 17:33:22, with 442955 points after 79983 turns and 10:04:17. 22:31:13 would it make more sense to just be "dispel undead"? 22:32:46 -!- Mandevil has quit [Quit: leaving] 22:33:24 03Grunt02 07* 0.15-a0-232-g80bbe4c: The great 0.15 monster glyph migration (#8242). 10(6 weeks ago, 4 files, 860+ 773-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=80bbe4c78dd7 22:33:24 03Grunt02 07* 0.15-a0-233-gfc2778f: Move monster shape into monster entries. 10(16 minutes ago, 3 files, 605+ 774-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=fc2778f61a89 22:33:24 03gammafunk02 {Grunt} 07* 0.15-a0-234-g216500d: Document the monster shape query functions 10(6 weeks ago, 2 files, 20+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=216500d13dad 22:33:24 03Grunt02 07* 0.15-a0-235-g6cf6886: De-dwarfify death knights. 10(9 days ago, 19 files, 53+ 43-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=6cf688689bb1 22:34:13 <|amethyst> wheals: the "by " matters to some stuff in the verbose death messages 22:34:23 <|amethyst> wheals: search for "by " in hiscores.cc 22:34:30 <|amethyst> wheals: with the quotes 22:35:07 hrm, was my other commit squashed 22:35:14 <|amethyst> wheals: not saying it couldn't be eliminated, but you'd want to test -tscores, -vscores, and -scores 22:35:35 * reaverb wonders if he should tell ontoclasm that last commit has a bad tile. 22:35:49 do you want to remove a grunt tile 22:35:56 gammafunk: yes 22:36:02 Grunt: cool, thanks! 22:36:04 gammafunk: no sense in having two of those commits! 22:36:17 Grunt: you are no friend of my commit count, I see 22:36:19 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 22:36:38 !lg * ckaux~~dispel s=ckiller 22:36:40 446 games for * (ckaux~~dispel): 103x a draconian, 91x a quicksilver dragon, 80x a player ghost, 55x a Shadow Fiend, 33x Nergalle, 20x wild magic, 11x Gloorx Vloq, 8x a pandemonium lord, 7x a player illusion, 7x a shapeshifter, 5x a revenant, 5x a draconian scorcher, 4x a draconian monk, 3x Josephine, 3x an unborn deep dwarf, 2x a draconian caller, 2x a draconian annihilator, 2x a spectral quicksi... 22:36:46 next you'll tell me that If I want more commits, I should go make commits 22:37:11 zapping while confused is so unlikely to hit what you want it should really warn you before you try 22:37:12 !killratio Vashnia * t 22:37:14 Vashnia wins 4.576% of battles against * (t). 22:37:17 !killratio Asterion * t 22:37:20 Asterion wins 3.410% of battles against * (t). 22:37:26 ah, she's falling 22:37:33 I could still win this 22:37:36 !lg * ckaux~~dispel ckiller=a_draconian 22:37:37 103. spelunker the Warrior (L15 GrGl of Ashenzari), blasted by a purple draconian (bolt of dispelling energy) in WizLab (wizlab_iskenderun) on 2014-04-24 06:26:40, with 85066 points after 29746 turns and 1:47:56. 22:37:41 ah 22:37:47 !lg * ikiller=~crusher 22:37:49 13. qw the Executioner (L21 GrBe of Trog), blasted by an octopode crusher (shard of ice) on Depths:4 (minmay_haunted_quarter) on 2014-04-24 04:45:33, with 302551 points after 40114 turns and 0:26:30. 22:37:54 !lg * ckaux=by_dispel_undead s=ckiller 22:37:55 207 games for * (ckaux=by_dispel_undead): 80x a player ghost, 55x a Shadow Fiend, 33x Nergalle, 11x Gloorx Vloq, 8x a pandemonium lord, 7x a player illusion, 5x a revenant, 3x Josephine, 3x an unborn deep dwarf, wild magic, a deep dwarf necromancer 22:38:04 !log * ckaux=by_dispel_undead 22:38:05 207. ldf, XL24 GhNe, T:79983: http://crawl.develz.org/morgues/0.14/ldf/morgue-ldf-20140424-173322.txt 22:38:08 -!- Wangster has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:38:29 !lg * ckaux=by_dispel_undead x=ktyp 22:38:30 207. [ktyp=beam] ldf the Necromancer (L24 GhNe of Kikubaaqudgha), blasted by ldf's illusion (dispel undead) (woven by Mara) on Elf:3 on 2014-04-24 17:33:22, with 442955 points after 79983 turns and 10:04:17. 22:38:35 -!- Eracar has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:39:46 i have to admit, i don't really understand this code 22:39:51 so i'll leave it alone 22:43:35 03Grunt02 07* 0.15-a0-236-g37e5796: Changelog through 0.15-a0-235-g6cf6886. 10(77 seconds ago, 1 file, 40+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=37e579615899 22:46:28 -!- gammafunk has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 22:47:06 * Grunt contemplates the Crypt/Tomb adjustments, but maybe that can wait for a day or two so that it can be online just in time for people finishing up the tournament <_< 22:47:42 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:48:19 -!- rast- has joined ##crawl-dev 22:48:40 It's nice that so far we have net negative number of monsters. 22:48:41 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:48:48 Maybe we should try to keep it that way until 0.16? 22:49:04 -!- rast- is now known as rast 22:49:07 (Not by avoiding new monsters, just making sure more are removed than added) 22:49:41 Grunt: I'm pretty sure Haste already had a status light. 22:49:49 "Fast" 22:49:52 er 22:49:55 Did I write Haste? 22:50:02 Grunt: Yes, yes you did. 22:50:38 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:50:54 reaverb: 22:50:56 ??rules 22:50:56 rules[1/6]: Remove 5 monsters for every monster you add. 22:51:16 03Grunt02 07* 0.15-a0-237-g6417b2b: Fix a changelog typo (reaverb). 10(66 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=6417b2beb450 22:51:17 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 22:51:42 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 22:52:02 -!- Pisano has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 22:53:38 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:54:07 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 22:54:28 -!- Keanan has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:55:07 -!- Keanan has joined ##crawl-dev 22:55:14 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:55:35 -!- soundlust|2 is now known as soundrage 22:55:42 -!- ToastyP has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 28.0/20140314220517]] 22:55:58 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:56:01 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 22:58:42 -!- Nethris has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:58:49 do suggested combos really need to exist 23:00:47 reaverb: which tile? 23:01:10 oh 23:01:14 death knights, that's fine 23:01:31 ontoclasm: To keep the original tile? Because Grunt replaced it with a differant one. 23:01:40 -!- Red_Bucket has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:02:08 the new one's okay too 23:02:22 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 23:02:35 i mean, at some point we might replace it but it's not terrible 23:03:01 ontoclasm: Ok, then. So should I tell you about tile changes in the future or do you read the commit logs? 23:03:24 ... 23:03:33 i try to read them but i will probably miss some 23:03:44 so yeah, feel free to message me about them 23:03:50 ontoclasm: Ok. 23:03:53 -!- Flun has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:03:55 wheals: ?? 23:03:55 then can we remove it? 23:04:02 Heh. 23:04:49 The only reason I was concerned about Death Knights specifically is that I didn't think it was obvious from the commit message a tile was being changed. 23:05:07 -!- thetabyte has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 23:05:22 you can't give non-dwarfs the kind of Huge Beard that dwarves are allowed 23:07:15 i just assumed that the committer might tell him, but i suppose there's no harm in helping out 23:07:30 wheals: Hmm, that would also be a fine policy. 23:07:53 Maybe it should be in the coding_conventions or something. 23:09:40 -!- Nomi has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 23:11:13 -!- rebthor has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:11:13 I'm probably going to need to store an manipulate state for how I'm looking at sanely decoding macros in your rc file, any opinons on whether to use a singleton or a namespace? (Leaning toward namespace) 23:12:55 -!- Krakhan has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 23:13:36 -!- rast has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:13:54 -!- icantfindaname has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:17:37 -!- Bcadren has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:21:02 -!- Ciph has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:24:40 even if i don't see the commit i'll probably notice the tile changed eventually 23:29:35 -!- Keanan has left ##crawl-dev 23:31:19 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 23:32:35 -!- Fizybubbleh has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 23:32:38 -!- Nomi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:32:59 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 23:59:18 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]