00:01:28 Stable (0.14) branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.14.0-24-gfb45beb 00:03:43 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.15-a0-195-g844f214 (34) 00:07:03 -!- GummyVite has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:08:08 -!- yogaFLAME has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:09:26 -!- Krakhan has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 00:11:18 -!- Keanan has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 00:12:15 -!- Piginabag has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:12:37 -!- jamezq has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:22:59 03Sage02 07* 0.15-a0-196-g942f6c4: Change Death's Door flavour message. 10(23 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=942f6c4c2700 00:24:49 -!- Keanan has joined ##crawl-dev 00:32:23 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 00:33:59 -!- SkiChan has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:38:14 YES 00:42:24 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 00:47:45 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 00:49:22 -!- DrinkMachine has joined ##crawl-dev 00:49:22 -!- DrinkMachine has quit [Changing host] 00:49:22 -!- DrinkMachine has joined ##crawl-dev 00:50:41 -!- turde has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 00:53:41 -!- Nomi has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 00:55:27 YES 00:55:33 NO 00:56:01 also what the fuck there's a frost giant that's red 00:56:05 i.e. it looks like a fire giant 00:56:17 -!- defn has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.3] 00:56:17 ? 00:56:49 my current game 00:58:40 -!- defn has quit [Client Quit] 00:58:45 -!- Zannick has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:00:18 https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=11941 01:04:11 -!- Dugar has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:05:01 -!- Bcadren is now known as RedBucket 01:05:13 any devs still here? 01:07:12 -!- RedBucket is now known as Bcadren 01:08:13 -!- mong has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:08:49 -!- yogaFLAME has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:11:11 -!- Patashu has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:15:39 -!- Wahaha has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:16:01 -!- nrook has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 28.0/20140314220517]] 01:16:48 -!- Lemuel has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:17:18 -!- t4nk021 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:18:06 -!- NeremWorld has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:23:29 -!- P_R_Deltoid has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:25:58 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:26:18 -!- swayze has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:32:41 -!- Zannick has joined ##crawl-dev 01:34:18 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 31.0a1/20140419030204]] 01:35:11 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:36:52 -!- Nethris has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 01:44:12 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:44:18 -!- iFurril has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:44:27 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 01:46:08 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:47:02 -!- jeanjacques has joined ##crawl-dev 01:51:41 -!- bmfx has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:53:38 -!- SkaryMonk has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:54:30 -!- SkaryMonk has joined ##crawl-dev 01:58:08 -!- Z_LAMP has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 01:59:56 -!- Nerem has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:05:56 -!- Furril has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 02:06:27 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 02:14:18 -!- inojin has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:16:36 Stable (0.14) branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.14.0-24-gfb45beb 02:17:38 -!- Hailley has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:18:18 -!- wizzo has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 02:19:18 -!- kait has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:21:16 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:21:58 -!- Stendarr has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 02:23:21 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.15-a0-196-g942f6c4 (34) 02:29:12 -!- Satonakaja has quit [Quit: Sayonara, Zetsubou Sensei!] 02:32:30 -!- SkaryMonk1 has joined ##crawl-dev 02:33:53 -!- wizzo has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 02:36:24 -!- RZX has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 28.0/20140314220517]] 02:39:34 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:41:22 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Quit: Connection reset by pier.] 02:43:52 -!- minus_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:47:07 -!- Keanan has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 02:48:57 -!- rchandra has left ##crawl-dev 02:54:58 -!- thetabyte has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:55:56 -!- kait has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 02:56:36 -!- caleba has quit [Quit: caleba] 03:05:43 -!- Kvaak has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:06:03 -!- Kvaak has joined ##crawl-dev 03:08:46 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:14:48 -!- Red_Bucket has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:18:40 -!- Palyth has quit [] 03:27:23 -!- Whistling_Bread has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:28:14 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 03:28:33 -!- Patashu_ has joined ##crawl-dev 03:28:33 -!- Patashu has quit [Disconnected by services] 03:29:03 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 03:29:32 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 03:31:03 -!- ontoclasm1 has joined ##crawl-dev 03:33:02 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:33:34 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 03:34:57 -!- lobf has quit [Client Quit] 03:35:14 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:36:55 -!- DrKe has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:37:51 -!- simmarine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:43:20 -!- Akatosh has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:43:29 -!- Wolfechu has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 03:45:58 -!- rast- has joined ##crawl-dev 03:46:31 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:46:36 -!- rast- is now known as rast 03:50:30 -!- omnirizon has quit [Quit: leaving] 03:51:22 -!- Z_LAMP has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:58:11 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 04:07:30 -!- Eonwe6 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 04:10:59 -!- Bcadren is now known as ToiletArm 04:11:12 -!- Pepe has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:11:32 -!- st_ has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 04:14:38 -!- Hailley has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:15:32 why can there be shafts on D:1? that seems a bit TOO unfair by crawl standards 04:16:37 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:17:34 they only take you to D:2 04:17:58 -!- agolden has quit [Quit: agolden] 04:19:38 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:20:29 -!- neunon has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 04:20:47 -!- TAS-2012v has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 04:23:50 -!- Whistling_Bread has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 04:25:00 -!- ontoclasm1 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 04:27:17 -!- Infinite_Monkeys has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 04:31:16 -!- Mad_Wack has quit [Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 04:31:23 -!- SkaryMonk2 has joined ##crawl-dev 04:36:30 -!- SkaryMonk1 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 04:36:30 -!- SomeoneAwful has quit [Quit: Leaving] 04:36:31 -!- Cheibriados has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 04:37:41 -!- Cheibriados has joined ##crawl-dev 04:37:41 -!- The topic of ##crawl-dev is: Crawl Development | Logs: http://s-z.org/crawl-dev/ | People with +v have commit access. | Please keep general Crawl-related chit-chat to ##crawl. | Dev wiki: http://crawl.develz.org/wiki | Long stuff to pastebin.ca please | Immortal Warwalrus and Crazy Yiuf forever. 04:37:43 -!- The topic of ##crawl is: Check out new European server at ??clan! | Play Crawl online now: type ??cao, ??cdo, ??cszo, ??clan, or ??webtiles for instructions | http://crawl.develz.org | FooTV: termcast.develz.org | ##crawl-offtopic: You got your gender in my peanut butter! Xom thinks this is hilarious. 04:39:22 -!- gareppa has quit [Quit: Sto andando via] 04:45:34 -!- Whistling_Beard has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:45:48 -!- Quazifuji_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:50:28 -!- qoala has quit [] 04:51:57 -!- alefury has joined ##crawl-dev 04:52:02 -!- jeffro has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 04:52:45 Stable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.14.0-24-gfb45beb (34) 04:52:59 -!- jeffro has joined ##crawl-dev 04:55:58 -!- kait has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:56:28 -!- Whistling_Beard has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:56:38 -!- Ketsa has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:58:22 -!- ldf has quit [Quit: ldf] 05:02:17 -!- Patashu_ has quit [Quit: Soundcloud (Famitracker Chiptunes): http://www.soundcloud.com/patashu MSN: Patashu@hotmail.com , AIM: Patashu0 , YIM: patashu2 , Skype: patashu0 .] 05:02:47 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 05:04:02 -!- MiraclePrism has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:05:20 -!- fungee has quit [] 05:06:26 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 05:10:03 -!- iFurril has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 05:10:03 -!- Sorbius has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 05:14:17 -!- pantaril_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:14:36 -!- pantaril has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:14:44 -!- neunon has joined ##crawl-dev 05:14:48 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:14:50 -!- Whistling_Beard has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:16:30 -!- mumi has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:30:17 -!- raskol has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 05:33:56 -!- radinms has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 05:35:08 -!- SurpriseTRex has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 05:37:48 -!- conted has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:38:51 -!- asema has quit [Changing host] 05:42:29 Trog (oka?) ammo gift give also throwing items by nago 05:43:16 -!- edlothiol has joined ##crawl-dev 05:46:26 -!- rast- has joined ##crawl-dev 05:48:46 -!- rast has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 05:48:47 -!- rast- is now known as rast 05:55:18 -!- Basil has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:02:31 -!- MgDark_MiBe has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 06:04:47 -!- Lasty1 has joined ##crawl-dev 06:09:48 -!- CrazyArbalest has quit [Client Quit] 06:20:35 -!- ToiletArm is now known as dudearm 06:29:31 -!- Lasty1 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 06:30:31 -!- notcluie has quit [Quit: Page closed] 06:32:38 -!- SkaryMonk1 has joined ##crawl-dev 06:32:58 -!- SkaryMonk2 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:33:10 Shield protection brand doesn't stack with enchantment levels by 1old3 06:33:52 -!- rast has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 06:36:14 -!- zxc232 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:47:18 -!- blueDave has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:52:26 -!- Furril has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:53:05 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 06:53:18 -!- ldf has joined ##crawl-dev 06:56:05 -!- DrinkMachine has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 07:07:32 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 07:20:31 -!- Z_LAMP has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:21:50 -!- debo has quit [Quit: debo] 07:23:14 -!- BlackrayJack has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 07:29:18 -!- iFurril has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:31:06 -!- Sgeo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:34:55 -!- sd1989 has joined ##crawl-dev 07:39:07 -!- mdvedh has quit [Client Quit] 07:43:06 -!- Patashu has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:43:18 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 07:44:07 -!- Rewans has quit [Quit: Page closed] 07:45:45 -!- dRbiG has quit [Quit: ZNC - 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A hand crafted IRC client] 10:02:48 -!- Morg0th has quit [Quit: leaving] 10:04:40 When are unique’s floors determined? Is it at the start of a new game, or when you visit floors the unique could appear on? 10:07:15 -!- _D_ has quit [Quit: leaving] 10:09:27 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 10:13:30 -!- gareppa has quit [Quit: Sto andando via] 10:15:53 should be when you initially enter the floor 10:16:09 pretty sure each floor is generated on the fly 10:16:26 uniques are placed by vaults, vault placement happens when the floor is generated, which is when the floor is first entered 10:17:17 a vault is considered for a floor if its branch and/or depth range is appropriate for the floor (althoiugh may subsequently be vetoed for other reasons, or just randomly not chosen for that floor) 10:21:14 -!- tali713 has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in] 10:23:05 geekosaur: This sounds new to me; are there really 1-tile vaults for various uniques? I thought normal dungeon generation placed them. 10:23:41 no it's been that way forever iirc 10:24:07 !source uniques.des 10:24:07 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/uniques.des;hb=HEAD 10:24:43 !source dat/des/builder/uniques.des 10:24:43 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/dat/des/builder/uniques.des;hb=HEAD 10:24:53 and yes, there are a bunch of silly 1-tile vaults to place uniques 10:25:59 iirc sometimes they do dumb things like knock out doors (in dungeon layout) while being placed?) 10:26:43 yep. and due to bugs in the level builder, sometimes they've done things like end up surrounded by trees with no way to reach them (but I would not be surprised if the recent change to make all trees opaque fixed this) 10:26:54 -!- syllogism has joined ##crawl-dev 10:27:28 Well, it looks like it works fine, but it feels like some sort of hack. 10:27:41 gee, it's crawl, whoda thunk? 10:28:03 oh, and the aforementioned feature/bug also applies to monster who turn invisible outside the halo but step inside it 10:28:07 * Nivim experiences light, sad laughter. 10:29:10 Kvaak: Does TSO's halo ever completely fill the screen? 10:29:17 at ****** I think, yes 10:29:18 (Or the view-range, that is.) 10:30:04 Well, since it doesn't always, I'm guessing the default is so that if something is invisible going into the halo, but then leaves, you don't autopickup and get shot at by the few invisible&ranged things. 10:30:51 yeah, that's presumably the reason why the halo doesn't affect autopickup 10:31:06 not sure it is a good enough reason though 10:31:07 -!- Zicher has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:31:50 are there any permanently invisible monsters than can attack you from afar? 10:32:03 Vapours could before trunk 10:32:12 not permanently invis, but there are monsters with ranged attacks who can go invis 10:32:48 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 10:33:46 mm, I'm not sure how vapors interact with autopickup but at least UHs don't disable autopickup 10:33:53 which isn't really an issue since they can only melee you anyway 10:34:36 elliptic: you fixed wanderer MP and didn't add the wanderer starting package upgrade? 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Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 18:01:43 https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=11818&p=167287#p167287 this is terrible like everything i think of 18:02:35 my personal feeling is that it's an interface problem, not a mechanics problem 18:02:41 ('mashing 5 to rest as an ogre' etc) 18:03:42 -!- eb has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 18:04:53 it's not 18:05:08 resting from 50 hp to 300 hp takes 416 turns 18:05:12 that's a lot of turns 18:05:26 -!- stanzill has quit [Quit: bonne nuit � tous] 18:05:33 300 hp is also a lot of hp 18:05:59 but that is a lot of turns. 18:06:30 http://instacalc.com/22359 18:07:14 -!- eb has joined ##crawl-dev 18:07:38 -!- jliou has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:08:27 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 18:09:00 <|amethyst> so instead we should make it so that, after standing still for 100 turns, you heal 50 hp per turn? 18:09:21 <|amethyst> seems kind of a buff to summoners 18:09:26 <|amethyst> (or anyone with allies) 18:09:43 well the conditions can be messed around with 18:10:11 honestly my thoughts are that resting is not something you can "fix" in crawl at this point 18:11:04 well following up, resting up to 300 from 50 hp at rr=maxhp/3 takes 250 turns 18:11:11 -!- ebarrett has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 18:11:34 and with this overpowered-resting it'd apparently take 150 18:12:06 <|amethyst> an exponential increase while standing still with no monsters in sight maybe makes sense 18:12:12 yeah 18:12:30 and secretly i'm getting pretty tired of walking around or swinging things 18:12:48 -!- Piginabag has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:12:52 <|amethyst> or you could just give everyone but DDs full HP the moment there are no monsters in sight 18:13:05 <|amethyst> (and remove poison) 18:13:17 sickness* 18:13:28 poison can still murder the shit out of you if you don't have rPois 18:13:32 which isn't all that uncommon 18:13:41 case DNGN_SLIMY_WALL missing break results in DNGN_FLOOR by floatingatoll 18:13:41 i think removing sickness makes sense anyway since sickness is basically just super weak, long-dur poison 18:13:50 -!- raskol has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:14:02 <|amethyst> does anything except purple ugly things have sickness? 18:14:09 zymes 18:14:11 komodos 18:14:13 haunt 18:14:21 %git HEAD^{/omodo} 18:14:23 07Sage02 * 0.15-a0-195-g844f214: Make komodo dragons bite harder, remove sickbite. 10(19 hours ago, 2 files, 2+ 4-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=844f214cef96 18:14:27 <|amethyst> ah, forgot about zymes and haunt 18:14:30 based 18:14:41 i think both of those would work fine with poison instead of sick though 18:15:11 give haunt self fear 18:15:21 at whatever you targeted 18:15:22 <|amethyst> eb: you can't move closer to yourself? 18:15:24 <|amethyst> oh 18:15:58 I have no idea of this is good btw 18:15:58 zero thought put into it 18:16:25 it is half serious tho 18:16:59 (You are terrified of it!) 18:16:59 I'm pretty serious though, since 150(ish) turns of resting would be a big improvement over 450. 18:17:14 -!- raskol` has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:17:37 <|amethyst> 1 turn of resting would be an even bigger improvement 18:18:18 -!- Zooty has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:18:21 (oh, give it a rest, everyone) 18:18:26 (<_< >_> <_< >_> <_< >_>) 18:18:38 also all this sickness hating reminds me, sickness is actually relevant for tr 18:18:45 tilepick-p.cc: case SP_NAGA missing break results in SP_VAMPIRE hair by floatingatoll 18:18:45 -!- ainsophyao has joined ##crawl-dev 18:18:48 and not much else granted 18:19:02 is the 'if (!orc && !orc->alive())' meant to be || in godabil.cc:spare_beogh_convert()? 18:19:02 <|amethyst> that's also 150 turns to go from 5 to 30 HP 18:19:48 <|amethyst> floatingatoll: indeed, good catch 18:19:48 sickness is a visual effect for DD with sustab 18:19:56 shall i file? 18:20:09 <|amethyst> floatingatoll: don't bother :) 18:20:09 :) 18:20:26 |amethyst: could give a base value to fix that 18:20:33 so i figured out how to run clang's static analyzer on the codebase 18:20:36 it's not that sick is not relevant, it's that sick is in practice the same as a different effect 18:20:44 so there's not much reason to have both other than to add complications 18:20:51 -!- ainsophyao has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:20:52 <|amethyst> Bloax: well, it's currently 250 18:20:58 8412, 8413 and that one seem to be the actual 'serious' bugs 18:20:58 +10 halves that 18:21:01 (it also happens that sick is not relevant in most cases but that is kind of a side issue) 18:21:07 there were a few more i didn't fully understand :( 18:21:28 (clearly we need a cang static analyser) 18:21:28 cang 18:21:31 <|amethyst> one difference, as eb points out, is that sickness scales with your regen rate 18:21:49 <|amethyst> (not that that's necessarily a good thing) 18:21:54 -!- Crehl has quit [Quit: qqqqqqq] 18:22:56 a truly virtuous soul would go through crawl with a bunch of warning flags turned on 18:23:00 it's duration*(maxhp/3 >= 20 ? 10+maxhp/6 : maxhp/3) damage 18:23:01 i just did that 18:23:01 -Wall 18:23:03 o 18:23:06 you are a truly virtuous soul 18:23:07 well, many of them :) 18:23:10 -!- Ququman has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:23:20 -wall -werror -wpedantic or w/e it is 18:23:27 so i'm looking at three null pointer derefs in this melee_attack.cc and wondering how to explain them in a bug report 18:23:42 forgot a /100 there 18:23:49 note_messages option can log DGL messages from console users by magicpoints 18:24:02 so at 300 maxhp 18:24:05 and 500 turns of sickness 18:24:09 you take 300 damage!! 18:24:25 I do wonder if 8412 is the reason for that old bug where floor shows up as green crystal walls 18:24:28 at 30 that's 50 whole damage 18:24:29 or w/e 18:24:34 maybe I'm getting it reversed 18:25:01 god, default-fallthrough switch statements are the worst. 18:25:02 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 18:25:14 heh 18:25:27 -!- reaverb has joined ##crawl-dev 18:25:29 why on earth did ritchie think that as a good idea? 18:25:34 Reminds me of a good NetHack bug. 18:25:37 -!- debo has quit [Quit: debo] 18:25:49 (one which isn't present in 3.4.x but was around for most of 3.x) 18:25:54 mm? 18:26:02 walls were floors? 18:26:18 yeah, this bug's shown up a few times 18:26:19 -!- eb has quit [Quit: I quit] 18:26:20 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: simplicity of implementation 18:26:22 really! 18:26:26 and been reported closed at least twice 18:26:31 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: switch is just a bunch of gotos 18:26:35 http://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Yeenoghu#.22A_ludicrous_bug.22 18:26:37 Grunt: Is it that demon lord having death's attack flavor> 18:26:42 yeah I guess I should've known :( 18:26:44 i only had to slightly patch the Makefile to stop trying to run the analyze on the externs 18:26:54 'no stop i don't care if SDL is impossibly broken' 18:26:58 reaverb: Yes. 18:27:00 the implementation of switch is actually cool 18:27:01 floatingatoll: Thank you for doing this. 18:27:04 yeah! 18:27:06 it's a pity about the effects 18:27:10 i've got a lot more that i'm unsure how to file, though 18:27:17 working on melee_attack null derefs of 'defender' 18:27:19 todo port to SDL2 18:27:36 * reaverb wonders if Crawl's odd autogenerated makefile is worth the trouble. 18:27:47 You swing at the NULL. You generate a segmentation fault. 18:27:52 i had no trouble with it, once it was generated 18:28:11 <|amethyst> floatingatoll: if you file a single bug report with the (possibly trimmed and editorialized) output of the check, that would work 18:28:24 Grunt: that is a good bug 18:28:25 |amethyst: it's giving me HTML files with the steps it took annotated in the source 18:28:36 they're really nice, except i can't for the life of me explain some of this 18:28:44 * floatingatoll copies one 18:28:44 * Grunt reaches out with his deadly touch. PleasingFungus dies! 18:28:48 rip 18:28:49 http://nethackwiki.com/wiki/File:Yeenoghu.png someone should really do a proper nethack tileset 18:28:57 03Sage02 07* 0.15-a0-199-gd408608: Prevent firewood poly from Xom and chaos brand. 10(13 minutes ago, 2 files, 3+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=d40860805085 18:28:59 <|amethyst> floatingatoll: do you have some place to post them permanently-ish? 18:28:59 yeah i imagine 18:29:00 hahaha 18:29:30 rip fun 18:29:44 Basil: rip 18:30:00 as a temporary measure, i do have a set of ASSERT(defender) and its ilk 18:30:16 but 18:30:20 i looked at ASSERT() 18:30:26 it aborts by .. dereferencing a null pointer. 18:30:36 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=6150 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=8108 this might be the bug 18:30:39 the irony. 18:30:51 oh hey yeah 18:31:01 hmm, i don't know that it's the same 18:31:04 but I'm not sure how exactly that missing break 18:31:05 <|amethyst> floatingatoll: yes, but it crashes *now*, not some time later several functions deep :) 18:31:06 would cause that bug 18:31:09 it seems like the reverse effect 18:31:11 |amethyst: true! 18:31:26 those both look like case/switch bugs, pleasing 18:31:36 <|amethyst> hm 18:31:40 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 18:32:09 as a happy aside, it provides a multi-function path all the way through everything to explain precisely *why* defender is undefined when melee_attack::apply_defender_ac is called 18:32:21 post the html 18:32:31 yeah, one sec 18:32:32 does that poly check work if the defender is the player? 18:33:18 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7533709/scan-build-2014-04-22-150728-34977-1/index.html 18:34:37 The intent is that it prevents Xom turning plants into treants when you rest with plants in view 18:34:38 -!- omnirizon has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 18:34:42 huh. that's neat 18:34:45 And I think that's what it does 18:34:46 the god-abil one was an && / || swap and amethyst got that 18:34:55 but confusing, like you said 18:34:59 * floatingatoll nods 18:35:11 i don't know enough about the game+internals to follow that logic chain and have a true sense of what is going on 18:35:16 Or rather, that's one thing the patch does, and the second bit is to prevent that happening when whacking plants with chaos 18:35:28 <|amethyst> Basil: right, it's the whacking plants bit that is a problem 18:35:35 <|amethyst> Basil: what if someone whacks the player with chaos? 18:35:37 which would be when the plant is a defender 18:35:42 Basil: but you can't do !mons_is_firewood(defender->as_monster()) is defender is the player 18:35:59 ah, so the 4-length one is "jump attack doesn't check to make sure defender is non-null" 18:36:32 if defender is the player* 18:36:54 MarvinPA: defender->as_monster() crashes when the player is the defender, or something? 18:37:00 <|amethyst> Basil: it returns null 18:37:06 hmm 18:37:17 null->anything is a zero-deref-abort, right? 18:37:26 MarvinPA: I think that's not quite right 18:37:36 it's if the attacker is a monster 18:37:46 I'll fix that in a second 18:38:01 talking about https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7533709/scan-build-2014-04-22-150728-34977-1/report-919dae.html#EndPath for reference 18:39:23 if it's desirable, i can write up my steps to repro for generating this. i used OS X, but it doesn't require anything beyond Xcode and the clang static analyzer tarball. 18:39:37 * floatingatoll likes to find small fixes with proofreading, basically 18:39:50 like this which removes two useless assignments: http://atoll.pastebin.mozilla.org/4909464 18:40:10 (and two of the 'dead store' reports) 18:40:24 (todo remove abandoned shops to dead stores) 18:40:25 <_< 18:40:29 haha 18:41:35 -!- Pepe has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:42:26 -!- HellTiger_ has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 18:42:45 the ouch.cc trace seems to be complaining that you can pass both a null *bolt object AND doEffects true 18:42:56 which is because the function has two purposes, calculate *and* apply 18:43:46 floatingtoll: Yes, I hate how much Crawl code violates the single responsibility principle. 18:44:00 well, i don't have an opinion there, but it helps for preparing a patch :) 18:44:03 (to know) 18:45:38 so, http://atoll.pastebin.mozilla.org/4909504 18:45:47 to catch coding errors, basically. 18:45:48 -!- lawman0 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:45:56 does anyone other than galehar know anything about transifex? 18:45:57 https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=11868 18:46:26 Transifex is a cloud-based Continuous Localization Platform trusted by thousands of developers. Localize software at the speed you develop code. 18:46:27 the dcss project seems to have mysteriously disappeared, i think i messaged galehar about that thread before but he's not been around 18:47:38 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:48:14 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 18:48:26 <|amethyst> that simulacrum thing... 18:49:00 <|amethyst> does item.orig_monnum really hold a monster_type? 18:49:06 MarvinPA, I don't think any of the other people who were listed as Transifex admins are around much (if at all) either? 18:49:22 -!- nooodl_ has quit [Quit: Ik ga weg] 18:49:30 <|amethyst> oh, I guess it does 18:49:45 dgn-height.cc, i think it's saying that if c.y - radius is greater than c.y + radius initially, it will divide-by-zero 18:49:47 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 18:49:56 that seems .. unlikely, unless there's floats here, which there aren't. 18:50:00 possible, for very large values of radius 18:50:00 maybe worth an email to the mailing list then, i don't know who was an admin other than galehar and kilobyte 18:50:04 ah! 18:50:09 MarvinPA: jpeg 18:50:11 (oddly) 18:50:15 MarvinPA: and that's it. 18:50:18 are any such large values in use? 18:50:27 well, probably not 18:50:34 does 'int' here default to unsigned int? 18:51:04 * floatingatoll asks a stupid question, sorry. 18:51:28 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 18:51:32 I'm pretty sure it defaults to signed. 18:51:57 Yeah, defaults to signed. 18:52:23 floatingatoll: also 18:52:26 if radius is 0 18:52:32 If I want a targetter (such as for casting a targetted spell or god ability) to provide extra information when highlighting an enemy, then I use a desc_filter, right? (directn.h direction_chooser_args, mon-info,h desc_filter) 18:52:33 ...no 18:52:38 misread 18:52:39 nvm 18:52:48 -!- BigBluFrog has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:53:38 -!- Pepe has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:53:51 my theory was just to add if (divisor == 0) return; 18:54:06 since that means there was no valid adjustment to make, and the rest of the function just gives up at that point 18:54:12 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 18:54:20 i can't picture *how* it would occur, but one less opportunity for a null deref 18:54:24 er, div-by-zero 18:54:44 <|amethyst> floatingatoll: ASSERT(c.y - radius <= c.y) 18:54:48 ooo 18:54:50 <|amethyst> I guess 18:54:59 <|amethyst> floatingatoll: ASSERT(c.y - radius <= c.y && c.y + radius >= c.y) 18:55:03 <|amethyst> or 18:55:13 <|amethyst> ASSERT(c.y - radius <= c.y + radius) 18:55:13 well, or, ASSERT(c.y - radius <= c.y + radius) 18:55:18 since that's what the condition uses 18:55:38 -!- soundlust has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:55:41 this might be an instance of "analyzer doesn't quite understand math" 18:55:44 in principle, that's undefined behavior in the same case 18:55:46 no 18:55:46 i'm more worried about the melee-attack ones 18:55:48 the analyzer understands c 18:55:51 ok 18:56:00 anyway yeah this isn't a big deal 18:56:05 <|amethyst> floatingatoll: no, it's: 1) radius may be negative 18:56:06 I doubt it'll ever come up (huge radius) 18:56:10 oooh 18:56:11 what? 18:56:14 <|amethyst> floatingatoll: 2) radius may be so large as to overflow 18:56:22 * floatingatoll twitches 18:56:28 oh, I forgot about the negative case 18:56:35 <|amethyst> neither of which probably actually happens 18:56:41 -!- soundlust|2 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 18:56:50 radius probably shouldn't be signed, but then you're mixing signed and unsigned math 18:57:01 no calls to dgn_smooth_heights provide any radius value at all 18:57:06 so ASSERT(radius > 0) ? 18:57:13 er, ASSERT(radius >= 1) i imagine :) 18:57:29 radius >= 0 would be fine 18:57:36 except for very large values of radius 18:57:45 hurk 18:57:49 hahahaha 18:57:50 okay, so i know what bug to file 18:57:53 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:57:58 'convert dgn_smooth_heights to unsigned ints' 18:58:02 * floatingatoll :) 18:58:09 <|amethyst> I would not do that 18:58:15 <|amethyst> making it unsigned doesn't fix anything 18:58:18 * floatingatoll is half joking and has no actual idea what to do at all 18:58:43 should i drop a ticket for each patch i come up with? 18:59:10 please do not stress over c integer overflow behavior 18:59:17 <|amethyst> floatingatoll: one ticket would probably be fine, but one ticket per patch lets us keep our numbers up :) 18:59:50 03floatingatoll02 {|amethyst} 07* 0.15-a0-200-g2251764: dgn-proclayouts.cc: fix DNGN_SLIMY_WALL, DNGN_UNSEEN switch fallthroughs 10(50 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=2251764b3164 18:59:50 03floatingatoll02 {|amethyst} 07* 0.15-a0-201-gb26498d: tilepick-p.cc: fix SP_NAGA switch fallthrough 10(43 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=b26498d20019 18:59:50 03|amethyst02 07* 0.15-a0-202-g087243c: Fix a potential null dereference in Beoghification (floatingatoll) 10(35 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=087243cc9157 18:59:53 * floatingatoll reads 'yes' 18:59:57 <|amethyst> I've got to go, could someone please apply the relevant fixes to 0.14 ? 18:59:58 things! 19:00:25 Beoghification is a very good word 19:00:27 I'm out 19:00:41 oh, i should do this on 0.14 19:00:50 * floatingatoll smiles 19:01:19 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 31.0a1/20140325030201]] 19:01:29 floatingatoll: I'd recommend you carry on doing it the way you have been 19:02:27 ok. there's a .. lot .. of them 19:03:08 will take it slowly and teach myself the code as i go :) 19:10:16 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 19:13:18 -!- Krakhan has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:14:35 -!- Keanan has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 19:17:28 -!- Krakhan has quit [Changing host] 19:19:26 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:20:10 03Sage02 07* 0.15-a0-203-gac65f08: Fix a bug in chaos brand polymorph. 10(34 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=ac65f0854c1f 19:20:13 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 19:20:33 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 19:24:32 * reaverb notices that somebody still needs to apply the relevant fixes to 0.14. 19:25:22 -!- eb has joined ##crawl-dev 19:25:45 -!- Krakhan has quit [] 19:25:56 -!- Kvaak has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 19:27:17 -!- Foamed has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 19:28:40 I'm going to close the floatingatoll's patch issues on mantis. 19:29:30 uhh are bow brands broken? 19:29:43 Im equipping a flaming bow and regular arrows and not seeing any fire damage messages 19:29:48 or making dith mad 19:30:02 johlstei: Seems odd. what verson? 19:30:12 &whereis johlstei 19:30:13 some tip build somewhere in 0.14 i think 19:30:13 %whereis johlstei 19:30:14 johlstei the Grappler (L9 TrIE), a worshipper of Ashenzari, dead on D:8 on 2014-04-22 after 6898 turns. 19:30:21 nah not online 19:30:23 my own build with wizmode 19:30:26 that i used to test this 19:30:41 johlstei: is it a bow of flaming or a bow of flame 19:30:58 johlstei: flaming is the melee brand and won't work on launchers 19:31:05 oh haha okay 19:31:12 wait its bow of flame 19:31:27 err nah it says flame in one place, flaming the other 19:31:42 yeah, it will say (flame) in the short description in the main screen 19:31:47 of flaming in your inventory 19:32:34 thank you that was it 19:32:36 appreciate it 19:33:14 np, someone had the reverse issue (melee weapon with launcher brand) a few days ago :) 19:33:38 of course the code handling those brands separately like that isn't great 19:34:11 no worries, im not here to play code police, one day when the ranged code is rewritten im sure everyone will be happy 19:34:33 -!- Krakhan has quit [Changing host] 19:34:45 yeah, "wait until Grunt finishes rewriting everything" is our plan :P 19:36:24 elliptic: He's already implmented melee and range brands being the same if I recall correctly. 19:37:29 yeah, it sounded like he was mostly done with the rewrite (though balance will certainly need some work) 19:37:59 -!- rchandra has left ##crawl-dev 19:38:28 There are a couple of loose ends to tie up and then it's all balance work, basically. 19:40:01 is ranged delay going to work the same way as melee delay? 19:40:14 (or at least not be affected by stats?) 19:40:39 Right now it works the same as melee delay (this *is* based on melee code after all). 19:41:01 This is partly based on the theory that galehar or someone will eventually come up with a new attack delay formula <_< 19:42:54 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 19:47:08 -!- demiskeleton has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 19:48:51 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:49:03 * reaverb wonders if enough time has passed that he can say his player-reacts.cc patch did not break Xcode or MSVC. 19:49:04 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 19:56:20 -!- Zermako has quit [Quit: good night] 20:02:48 -!- Foamed_ has quit [Quit: Heading to bed.] 20:04:22 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 20:05:27 -!- Lasty1 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20:06:46 -!- turde has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:08:18 -!- Moredread has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:11:23 -!- Watball has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:14:41 is there a formula for 'probability that xdy will be greater than z' ? 20:19:21 -!- agolden has quit [Quit: agolden] 20:19:44 -!- emagenta has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20:20:55 -!- computergeeksjw has quit [Client Quit] 20:21:02 -!- dudearm has joined ##crawl-dev 20:21:12 Patashu: Yes there is. 20:21:40 But that's a statistics question, not a Crawl development question. I don't know the anser off the top of my head. 20:23:55 it is a crawl development question now :) 20:23:58 because I need it for a patch I am making :) 20:24:31 Patashu: Maybe x_chance_in_y() would be better? What's the patch? 20:25:13 if it's something like displaying actual chance to pacify or to hex something i think it is very unlikely that gets into crawl 20:25:28 -!- edlothiol has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:25:28 crate: why is that? spell miscast rate used to be words and now it is a %. 20:25:55 this is much closer to doing things like displaying actual spell damage or melee damage 20:26:00 which i am pretty confident will not happen 20:26:18 (also it's an info leak for pacification) 20:26:22 (since it tells you monster maxhp) 20:26:30 oh, I have a plan for that actually 20:26:32 it'll show two %s 20:26:38 first is if the monster rolled min max hp 20:26:41 second is if the monster rolled max max hp 20:26:44 well see now you're just getting into displaying lots of numbers 20:26:49 that sounds even less likely to make it in then, yes 20:26:50 yeah, that's the main problem with it 20:27:02 lol 20:27:06 i actually think the pacification messages as they are are fine 20:27:06 Patashu: Also, the reason for removing words was that those words were incredably misleading. 20:27:06 and the hex ones 20:27:17 they tell me what i need to know 20:27:22 well, if I can't do a %-% and I can't leak max hp, then I can't do anything 20:27:23 XD 20:27:39 yes, your patch is aimed at a game with a different design philosophy 20:28:26 crate: One thing is that pacify messages seem unlike new hex messages 20:28:35 yes, the pacify messages are like old hex messages 20:28:42 they tell you 'you didn't make it' or 'oh, you just barely missed' like old hex messages 20:28:42 -!- _aardvark has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:29:08 well you can presumably change that and that would get accepted 20:29:09 (or like current melee messages for that matter!) 20:29:34 That Enchantress person seems sort of dodgy 20:29:35 i dont find the new hex messages significantly more useful than the old ones, though i do agree they are better 20:29:41 (just not a huge difference imo) 20:29:54 having fancy adjectives every single time you attack a monster and miss seems awful and useless to me 20:30:13 crate: the usefulness is that (if you don't want to do the calculations of MR and hex power and all that) then after failing just once you know how likely it will be on every different cast 20:30:14 so let's not bring melee messages into the discussion :P 20:30:17 which is better than old hexes 20:30:18 melee combat has lots of messages as-is yes 20:30:22 Patashu, yes i know the difference 20:31:15 on average the old system told you that also, and the majority of the time there is no real difference 20:31:39 the new messages are better, but it's not a big deal 20:32:47 -!- Lobsterpants has quit [Client Quit] 20:34:09 -!- Bloax has quit [Quit: Error: Bloax not found] 20:34:16 btw, there is actually a small actual_max_hp information leak in ely healing. it tells you if you could never pacify the monster with this invocation, based on its actual_max_hp not its max_possible_max_hp 20:34:18 (but no one cares) 20:35:19 well it tells you 1) after you've tried to do so (so you at least spend a turn) and 2) only if attempting to pacify was pretty hopeless regardless 20:36:34 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 20:39:11 * reaverb wonders why max hp is randomized in the first place. 20:40:56 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 20:44:24 -!- bh has joined ##crawl-dev 20:44:31 transifexpocalypse? 20:44:32 bh: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 20:44:50 transifu-- wait. 20:45:02 -!- Lobsterpants has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:47:54 ??goodplayer 20:47:55 goodplayer ~ goodplayers[1/1]: 10 or more wins. 20:49:18 -!- conted has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:51:26 dgn-height.cc: avoid divide-by-zero in dgn_smooth_height_at() when divisor result is 0 by floatingatoll 20:53:05 -!- Eonwe7 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:54:59 -!- thetabyte has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20:56:37 Maybe yred animate remains hunger cost could be halved? 20:57:46 -!- raskol` has quit [Quit: quit] 20:58:41 Basil: I don't think you really need to ask permission for such a small tweak. <_< 20:58:53 It's not like it can't be reverted. 21:00:08 I'd like to avoid fooling around with reverts 21:00:27 And I ask because I'm not really sure what the hunger cost is supposed to achieve in the first place 21:00:36 reaverb: it's still reasonable to ask for input from other people here... obviously he doesn't have to do so, but it can't hurt 21:01:13