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timeout: 252 seconds] 10:36:04 -!- frogor_home has joined ##crawl-dev 10:36:04 -!- frogor_home is now known as frogor 10:36:07 -!- frogor has quit [Changing host] 10:36:07 -!- frogor has joined ##crawl-dev 10:37:46 |amethyst: puduick@reddit here - new OS X builds up at https://www.mediafire.com/?n68dt7fwzwzfwjs 10:37:54 er, pudquick@reddit. 10:39:37 Triple build this tim 10:39:59 It has 0.13.2, 0.14.0, an the latest 0.15 as well. 10:40:10 Man, dropping letters left and right this morning. 10:40:29 -!- frogor is now known as pudquick 10:40:42 !help 10:40:42 !help: Displays help on a command. For a list of commands, see !cmdinfo. 10:40:48 !cmdinfo 10:40:49 !apt !cdefine !cmd !cmdinfo !fn !ftw !function !gamesby !help !kw !learn !lg !lm !messages !nick !rng !seen !source !streak !tell !time !vault !won !wtf .echo 10:41:03 !help messages 10:41:04 !messages: No messages for pudquick. 10:41:40 !note 10:41:46 hrm. 10:41:52 !tell 10:41:52 I don't grok. Syntax is !tell PERSON MESSAGE. 10:41:58 There we go. 10:42:27 -!- Morg0th has quit [Quit: leaving] 10:42:37 !tell |amethyst pudquick@reddit here - new OS X builds (0.13.2, 0.14.0, 0.15-latest) up at https://www.mediafire.com/?n68dt7fwzwzfwjs 10:42:37 pudquick: OK, I'll let |amethyst know. 10:43:50 !tell |amethyst pudquick@reddit here - if you need to get ahold of me outside of reddit, I'm on M-F during US business hours as frogor@Freenode 10:43:50 pudquick: OK, I'll let |amethyst know. 10:44:08 -!- pudquick has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:56:27 03wheals02 07* 0.15-a0-113-g0bb9f16: Don't let ranged weapons get Noisy (minmay). 10(14 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=0bb9f16e3168 10:56:31 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:56:31 -!- sildraith has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:56:31 -!- radinms has quit [] 10:56:31 -!- Cheibriados has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:57:48 -!- Cheibriados has joined ##crawl-dev 10:57:48 -!- The topic of ##crawl-dev is: Crawl Development | Logs: http://s-z.org/crawl-dev/ | People with +v have commit access. | Please keep general Crawl-related chit-chat to ##crawl. | Dev wiki: http://crawl.develz.org/wiki | Long stuff to pastebin.ca please | Immortal Warwalrus and Crazy Yiuf forever. 10:57:50 -!- The topic of ##crawl is: Check out new European server at ??clan! | Play Crawl online now: type ??cao, ??cdo, ??cszo, ??clan, or ??webtiles for instructions | http://crawl.develz.org | FooTV: termcast.develz.org | ##crawl-offtopic: You got your gender in my peanut butter! Xom thinks this is hilarious. 11:00:17 -!- mamgar has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:01:00 -!- blabber has joined ##crawl-dev 11:03:17 -!- MakMorn has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 11:04:17 -!- MakMorn has joined ##crawl-dev 11:06:18 <|amethyst> I am intentionally mislabling these downloads slightly 11:06:48 ? 11:06:48 <|amethyst> I am calling it stone_soup-0.14.0-{console,tiles}-macosx.zip even though it really has two more commits 11:07:01 you monster. 11:07:03 which commits? 11:07:10 <|amethyst> %git stone_soup-0.14 11:07:12 07MarvinPA02 * 0.14.0-2-gd2dacb9: Fix fire dragons not granting extra Dith piety 10(15 hours ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=d2dacb9ba35f 11:07:12 <|amethyst> %git stone_soup-0.14^ 11:07:15 07MarvinPA02 * 0.14.0-1-g07bf517: Changelog fixes 10(23 hours ago, 1 file, 2+ 3-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=07bf517bc3e5 11:07:35 <|amethyst> okay, http://crawl.develz.org/wordpress/downloads has them 11:07:37 <|amethyst> now for trunk 11:07:40 Stable (0.14) branch on crawl.lantea.net updated to: 0.14.0-2-gd2dacb9 11:08:16 <|amethyst> oh 11:08:48 -!- notcluie has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:08:52 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:09:16 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 11:12:19 firemonkey (L9 KoHu) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (D:7) 11:12:20 kraphead (L23 FoWr) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (D:15) 11:12:20 omnirizon (L5 TeTm) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (D:4) 11:12:21 WeiSong (L14 DsGl) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (D:13) 11:12:22 Rassilon (L5 FoFi) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (D:3) 11:12:30 <|amethyst> okay, crawl.develz.org/trunk is updated too 11:12:32 <|amethyst> but 11:12:38 <|amethyst> it currently only has 0.15 for OS X :) 11:13:04 WeiSong (L14 DsGl) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (D:13) 11:13:04 tbrit10 (L7 FoFi) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (D:5) 11:13:05 Nethershadow (L12 SpAs) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (Lair:5) 11:13:05 omnirizon (L5 TeTm) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (D:4) 11:14:23 <|amethyst> trying a rebuild on CDO 11:14:29 <|amethyst> (of trunk) 11:14:47 <|amethyst> oh wait 11:15:42 <|amethyst> that doesn't help with the trunk page 11:17:05 -!- dpeg has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 11:17:21 Komi (L5 OpVM) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (D:4) 11:18:35 <|amethyst> Napkin: Mac builds are up for both /release and /trunk; I left the other OSes at 0.14 trunk for the moment until we have some binaries 11:21:39 -!- Cabadath has joined ##crawl-dev 11:22:05 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 11:22:14 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 31.0a1/20140404030202]] 11:22:35 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.15-a0-113-g0bb9f16 (34) 11:22:59 With most things that were removed; I get it...but why were stalkers (and all associated spells) removed? I'm asking because I noticed that 'bring back stalkers' is a common request at the sourceforge and a couple other stable download locations. 11:24:31 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 11:24:57 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 11:24:57 -!- CKyle has quit [Client Quit] 11:26:44 <|amethyst> %git 54df5be6 11:26:46 07MarvinPA02 * 0.12-a0-128-g54df5be: Remove Evaporate and Fulsome Distillation, and the book of Stalking 10(1 year, 8 months ago, 26 files, 53+ 598-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=54df5be6b9d9 11:26:59 |amethyst: are you looking for binaries for trunk? 11:27:03 <|amethyst> There was a lot of discussion leading up to that, but the commit message summarises the reasoning 11:27:19 because they were boring and scummy 11:27:29 <|amethyst> also 11:27:35 <|amethyst> %git 19fbaf86f 11:27:35 07MarvinPA02 * 0.12-a0-127-g19fbaf8: Remove Stalkers 10(1 year, 8 months ago, 9 files, 17+ 61-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=19fbaf86f4ea 11:27:49 <|amethyst> Grunt: I think nap kin was working on the automated builds 11:27:55 |amethyst: right 11:28:30 <|amethyst> Grunt: I guess I could drop them in though: you have Windows installer and both zips? 11:28:47 <|amethyst> Grunt: I have no idea about setting up the debian stuff 11:29:12 |amethyst: I think there was also an automated system for that? 11:29:33 <|amethyst> I have no idea where though 11:29:52 <|amethyst> I at least know where the update-mingw-all-trunk.sh script is 11:30:09 <|amethyst> but there's no update-debian-* in that directory :/ 11:30:16 mm 11:30:18 -!- alefury has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Iceweasel 28.0/20140319124030]] 11:30:39 |amethyst: do you think mingw from debian repository can build a working windows binary? 11:31:14 <|amethyst> Napkin: Hm... I don't know if it's enough or if there were libraries you needed 11:31:23 <|amethyst> Napkin: but it's worth a shot anyway 11:31:33 the libraries and their -dev headers are in the mingw folder 11:31:37 So a lot of the reasoning was fulsome was too scummy? ...I personally don't see how it's that different than sacrificing corpses to gods, or eating chunks, but I understand. 11:31:44 i just installed "mingw32" - give it a try, please? 11:31:57 Cabadath: you use it on every corpse and store the mutation potions 11:32:06 Napkin: it can, considering that's how I did the 0,14 builds :) 11:32:10 then once you find a good amount of cure mutation you drink them until you're satisfied 11:32:28 if you aren't, you drink cure mutation until you either like it or you're ready to drink more mutation 11:32:29 debian packages of mingw always caused trouble 11:32:37 crashing binaries, mostly 11:32:48 -!- Stendarr has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:32:57 with gods you can sacrifice the corpse or you can not 11:33:10 I think we disabled the thing that was causing Windows builds to crash frequently on startup, at least. 11:33:16 <|amethyst> Napkin: hm, it's looking specifically for i686-pc-mingw32-gcc 11:33:26 -!- Watball has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:33:34 hm 11:33:35 <|amethyst> Napkin: and I'm not really familiar with the setup of your build directory so I'm wary to mess with it 11:33:38 Bloax ...ahh I didn't see it that way; I was only looking at it as intended storing potions to make clouds. 11:33:42 tell it to use i586-mingw32msvc-gcc and i586-mingw32msvc-g++ 11:33:49 ok, i will, 1s 11:34:59 <|amethyst> Napkin: I've got to go for a bit; I can look into it later maybe, but am travelling this weekend so won't be able to spend much time until Sunday or Monday 11:35:39 Perhaps it would be better for a god? IDK. have JUST evaporate without distillation and give a god that gives potion gifts... I can definately see Evaporate with the current supply of those kinds of potions you currently find in the dungeon being not worth the spell levels though. 11:36:00 -!- Akien has joined ##crawl-dev 11:37:40 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 11:37:58 <|amethyst> It would have to be much higher-level or limited in some other way 11:38:18 -!- GDR has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:38:21 <|amethyst> compare to meph, which is one level higher and has one extra school 11:38:39 <|amethyst> It's not just that it was scummy; it was also overpowered 11:38:54 (Miasma from a level 2 spell!!) 11:39:14 Grunt See 'Corpse Rot'. 11:39:17 <|amethyst> we still have that 11:39:20 <|amethyst> what Cabadath said 11:39:32 |amethyst: cc1plus: warning: -Wuninitialized is not supported without -O 11:39:35 "but where will you get the corpses" a bystander asks 11:39:37 <|amethyst> but it's not a 3x3 cloud 11:39:38 but you see 11:39:47 we have a kikubaaqudgha ability that does exactly that! 11:39:57 nice make -j2 -C source CROSSHOST=i586-mingw32msvc CHOWN=true CHMOD=true USE_MERGE_BASE="${PRIMARY_BRANCH_REMOTE}" WIZARD=y DESTDIR=${INSTALLDIR} 11:40:37 ??corpseslapping 11:40:38 I don't have a page labeled corpseslapping in my learndb. 11:40:43 ??corpse slapping 11:40:43 corpse slapping ~ corpse slap[1/1]: The act of Portal Projectiling a corpse just before an enemy, then Corpse Rotting it. 11:41:11 <|amethyst> Napkin: funny, I thought O2 was default 11:41:31 it's spamming those messages, could you fix that? 11:41:32 * Cabadath just realized how nice and OP summoning a Plague Shambler would be. 11:41:39 <|amethyst> Napkin: can pass make EXTERNAL_FLAGS=-O2 11:42:09 maybe it's some mingw specific problem? 11:43:28 ouch 11:43:32 <|amethyst> okay, I added -O2 and it's going 11:43:37 you added it to the makefile on CDO 11:43:46 that's not what i had planned ;) 11:43:48 wait then 11:43:50 <|amethyst> to update.sh 11:43:58 those files are in a git repository 11:44:07 1s 11:44:35 <|amethyst> there seem to be problems linking SDL and libpng now? 11:44:54 <|amethyst> during building tool/ 11:45:09 <|amethyst> which might be a broken makefile on our part, don't know 11:45:13 is Corpse Rot the only player source of Miasma? 11:45:14 <|amethyst> but I must be going now 11:45:38 <|amethyst> my change is uncommitted, so feel free to stash it or reset it away or whatever 11:45:48 <|amethyst> in /home/services/crawl/source/mingw32/crawl/update.sh 11:47:26 Cabadath, I think that stuff is better suited to ##crawl 11:50:57 -!- popx has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:51:01 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 11:52:55 -!- ChongLi_ is now known as ChongLi 11:54:51 I mean I'm pretty sure it is and I know miasma is rare on purpose. just wanted to be sure of how rare. 11:54:55 -!- rlund has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:57:24 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.15-a0-114-g215effc: Remove default_target and target_unshifted_dirs options 10(16 hours 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13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=fdbdc891e74a 13:10:04 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.15-a0-123-geffbfde: Fix some types of hit messages never being used 10(7 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 5-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=effbfde28b7e 13:10:05 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:10:05 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 13:18:02 -!- luukano_ has quit [Quit: leaving] 13:23:33 -!- SkaryMonk1 has joined ##crawl-dev 13:24:52 -!- SkaryMonk1 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:25:19 -!- SkaryMonk1 has joined ##crawl-dev 13:26:05 -!- SkaryMonk has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:33:35 -!- ldf has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:35:10 -!- dremek has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 13:35:48 -!- notcluie has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:39:30 -!- Aryth has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:42:02 -!- trystero has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:50:42 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 13:51:12 -!- Laraso has quit 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(source = (0,0)) (D (Sprint)) 15:46:48 -!- LordSloth has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:46:48 -!- Keanan has left ##crawl-dev 15:48:48 -!- Cheibrodos has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:49:44 -!- arb has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.3] 15:50:38 -!- Lightli has joined ##crawl-dev 15:52:48 -!- johnny0 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:53:06 -!- johnny0 has joined ##crawl-dev 15:56:55 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 15:56:56 -!- home has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:59:11 -!- simmarine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:59:40 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 16:00:05 -!- ToastyP has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 28.0/20140314220517]] 16:01:20 -!- OutworldRelay has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:01:27 -!- Vidiny has quit [] 16:01:44 -!- Blazinghand|Work has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:02:16 -!- Zergmund has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:03:33 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 16:05:14 -!- ackack has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:05:36 -!- Zergmund has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:06:03 -!- LexAckson has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:06:46 -!- Krakhan has quit [Changing host] 16:07:53 -!- OCTOTROG1 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:08:11 -!- OutworldRelay has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:13:52 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 16:15:30 -!- Patashu[Zzz] has joined ##crawl-dev 16:15:30 -!- Patashu has quit [Disconnected by services] 16:16:13 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 16:16:36 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 16:18:07 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 16:19:42 -!- OutworldRelay has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:20:54 -!- Xenobreeder has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:20:57 -!- TESO has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:24:16 -!- Blazinghand|Work has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:24:19 -!- Patashu[Zzz] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:24:50 -!- BirdoPrey has quit [Quit: BirdoPrey] 16:26:25 I feel like I should know this, but are player names case sensitive? is "neckro23" equivalent to "necKro23" ? 16:26:47 a buddy uses one name on CBRO and the other on cszo 16:26:54 they are not case sensitive 16:27:03 ??cbro 16:27:03 cbro[1/3]: Server in Georgia, US: crawl.beRotato.org -- ssh port 22, username crawler, keys at http://crawl.beRotato.org/crawl/keys (no password access). In case of DNS problems, use crawl.boylecraft.net. Webtiles at: http://crawl.beRotato.org 16:27:43 i.e. servers don't allow registering two different casings of the same name, sequell and tourney scripts don't care about case, etc 16:27:45 thanks elliptic 16:27:52 got it. 16:28:10 I was confused since the player folders appeared to be case sensitive 16:28:22 on the server, that is 16:29:06 -!- trystero has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:29:26 yeah, that could be 16:30:08 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:32:40 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 16:34:24 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:34:30 that just means the original registered name is treated as canonical and logging in does a case insensitive match against the user database 16:36:39 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:38:14 -!- Quashie has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:45:18 -!- notcluie has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:45:50 if anyone cares i'm running some cool multirobin-y action in ##ircplayscrawl / on termcast! 16:45:54 -!- pantaril has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:49:10 nooodl: what server? 16:49:21 telnet termcast.org 16:49:52 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 16:52:18 -!- Stout has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:52:54 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 16:53:44 -!- jday_ has joined ##crawl-dev 16:55:24 -!- Mad_Wack has quit [Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 16:56:44 -!- Blazinghand|Work is now known as Blazinghand 16:59:34 -!- Chris7 has quit [] 17:00:44 -!- Brannock has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:01:32 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:02:38 -!- Vizer has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:02:54 -!- tarantoga is now known as rdx 17:05:17 -!- Quashie has quit [Client Quit] 17:06:33 ircplayscrawl, how does that work, noodl? 17:07:33 -!- bh has joined ##crawl-dev 17:07:41 How's twitchplayscrawl doing? 17:07:45 !lg twitchplayscrawl 17:07:45 8. twitchplayscrawl the Caller (L1 GrSu), slain by a rat (summoned by the player character) on D:1 (lemuel_arrival_room) on 2014-04-10 02:57:30, with 0 points after 36 turns and 0:05:31. 17:07:58 !lg twitchplayscrawl max=score 17:07:59 8. twitchplayscrawl the Cudgeler (L3 MuCK of Cheibriados), blasted by an orc wizard (puff of flame) on D:6 on 2014-04-10 02:41:29, with 136 points after 7412 turns and 0:20:29. 17:08:34 -!- ZRN has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 17:09:31 -!- OCTOTROG has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:09:33 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:09:58 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 17:11:12 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 17:11:18 -!- Reign_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:13:08 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 17:14:15 bh: it was replaced by ircplayscrawl 17:14:29 elliptic: nice! 17:14:40 if anyone cares i'm running some cool multirobin-y action in ##ircplayscrawl / on termcast! 17:15:07 -!- MgDawn is now known as MgDawn_MiBe 17:15:30 johnstein: people type commands in irc. they happen 17:15:30 elliptic: we could roll a tileschat-plays-crawl bookmarklet 17:15:52 i heard people talk about bookmarklets yesterday 17:15:56 is this a weird tiles thing 17:16:46 nooodl: a bookmarklet is just a chunk of JS. It could read incoming tileschat and push it back to the server 17:16:56 -!- DrinkMachine has joined ##crawl-dev 17:16:57 presumably after aggregating it and taking a vote 17:17:37 I mean, I telneted into the room but all I saw was the game. I didn't try typing anything 17:18:12 aha 17:18:16 I'm not as familiar with irc via telnet 17:18:27 which sounds dumb, I know 17:18:31 oh! just /join ##ircplayscrawl on here 17:18:44 oh. oops 17:19:19 I think I tried that first. but forgot the extra # 17:19:21 oops 17:20:02 !locateall ircplayscrawl 17:20:03 Failed to locate ircplayscrawl. 17:20:14 not playing online yet? 17:20:34 nope 17:20:43 i don't think it will; having it handle dgamelaunch is hard 17:20:55 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 17:21:05 why's that? 17:21:11 the chroot? 17:21:50 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:22:10 Unstable branch on crawl.lantea.net updated to: 0.15-a0-123-geffbfde (34) 17:22:18 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:23:12 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 17:23:48 -!- bh has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:24:02 -!- User_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:24:16 -!- Scytale has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:25:33 -!- Cabadath has joined ##crawl-dev 17:33:10 -!- ldf has quit [Quit: ldf] 17:34:57 -!- HellTiger_ has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 17:35:08 -!- Lasty1 has joined ##crawl-dev 17:38:21 -!- home has quit [Changing host] 17:38:41 -!- galehar has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:38:58 -!- MgDawn_MiBe has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:39:08 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:39:18 -!- Grujah has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:40:27 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 17:41:18 -!- conted has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:42:59 -!- MgDawn is now known as MgDawn_MiBe 17:45:17 -!- sinusoidal has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:45:38 -!- galehar has joined ##crawl-dev 17:47:00 -!- Akien has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:54:54 -!- DrinkMachine has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:57:12 -!- nooodl has quit [Disconnected by services] 18:01:26 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:04:12 -!- ToastyP_ is now known as ToastyP 18:06:08 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 18:07:48 -!- notcluie has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:13:26 -!- iliekturtles has quit [Quit: leaving] 18:19:09 -!- Roarke has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:24:29 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:26:29 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 18:27:18 -!- notcluie has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:30:43 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 18:31:06 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:31:51 -!- simmarine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:32:19 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 18:33:35 -!- Lawman0 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:38:42 -!- Crehl has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:40:25 -!- Ququman has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:41:05 -!- PoopBridge has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:41:30 !messages 18:41:30 No messages for TZer0. 18:41:43 -!- Sorbius has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:45:20 !send TZer0 messages 18:45:21 Sending messages to TZer0. 18:48:45 -!- DrinkMachine has joined ##crawl-dev 18:48:47 -!- DrinkMachine has quit [Changing host] 18:48:47 -!- DrinkMachine has joined ##crawl-dev 18:50:50 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 18:50:51 -!- Rewans has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:54:48 -!- notcluie has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:55:03 -!- Piginabag has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:02:54 Oh, Grunt, how unexpected! 19:03:36 well it'd definitely be nice if lantea was sturdier 19:04:30 but that's stuff for a time that isn't now 19:04:31 Why is it that rods, wielded weapons and wands are e(v)oked; but evocations from jewelry and armor become and (a)bility. That interface thing is a little annoying. 19:04:42 -!- DrinkMachine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:05:22 -!- Arivia has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 19:05:35 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 19:05:38 fr: remove steam; turn all steam clouds into fog 19:05:56 fr make eels submerge if you're more than four tiles away 19:08:58 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 31.0a1/20140325030201]] 19:09:56 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:10:12 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 19:13:48 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 19:19:04 Skills bonuses are inconsistent after quaffing potion of experience by Sandman25 19:20:18 -!- notcluie has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:21:35 -!- rdx has quit [Quit: Try HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <-] 19:23:42 -!- alefury has quit [] 19:24:09 Bloax that would stop so many deaths if their range was lowered. 19:37:56 -!- Reign__ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:38:46 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 19:39:39 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 19:40:27 hm. 19:40:36 opinion: there are too few shield brands. 19:41:14 protection, reflection, resistance, spirit shield seems like a good number 19:41:22 ...shields can have spirit shield? 19:41:32 and resistance is quite uncommon 19:41:56 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:42:00 also rF, rC, rPois, and rN 19:42:03 more than any other armour slot 19:42:10 so yes 19:42:18 they're just all fairly similar 19:42:21 hold on, let me find the shield gen code 19:42:30 huh 19:42:34 so they can 19:42:34 !source _determine_armour_ego 19:42:35 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/makeitem.cc;hb=HEAD#l1858 19:42:39 -!- Basil has joined ##crawl-dev 19:42:40 well, not spirit shield 19:42:43 but the others, yes 19:42:57 I had no idea 19:43:02 -!- Basil is now known as Guest71172 19:43:04 -!- whiterider has quit [Quit: This user has gone to sleep.] 19:43:13 spirit shield is artefact exclusive for shields i guess 19:43:27 I was thinking of suggesting new shield brands, but now I feel a bit silly! 19:46:11 (1) shelter: can block beams and/or explosions maybe? (2) retaliation: minotaur-style melee counterattacks (nrook's idea) 19:46:18 could be 'spiked' instead 19:48:09 -!- Lightli has joined ##crawl-dev 19:48:19 -!- Guest71172 is now known as Basil 19:48:30 -!- Keanan has joined ##crawl-dev 19:48:34 -!- TerryDactyl has quit [] 19:51:03 -!- Nethris has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 19:51:50 wtf, why can ijyb show up in elf 3 19:52:03 !vault elf_orc_summit_meeting 19:52:03 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/dat/des/branches/elf.des;hb=HEAD#l653 19:53:22 Probably there is at least one unique that makes sense for elves now 19:53:22 -!- Bloax has quit [Quit: Error: Bloax not found] 19:53:29 on the other hand vaults 19:56:59 -!- lobf has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:56:59 -!- bh has joined ##crawl-dev 19:56:59 If I make an alt account, how can I get it wizmoded? 19:56:59 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 19:57:13 what do you mean, bh? 19:57:43 johnstein: I'm thinking of trying to code up tilesplayscrawl 19:58:04 ?/multirobin 19:58:04 Matching terms (1): multirobin; entries (4): implemented_bad_ideas[4] | multirobin[1] | multirobin[2] | multirobin[3] 19:58:17 ??multirobin 19:58:17 multirobin[1/5]: Like other *robin accounts, you share it with other players. Unlike other *robin accounts, they're logged in at the same time you are. In fact, all keypresses are shared! See multirobin[2] for setup/login details. See multirobin[3] for something awesome. 19:58:35 &rc multirobin 19:58:37 http://crawl.develz.org/configs/trunk/multirobin.rc 19:58:50 -!- Zermako has quit [Quit: good night!] 19:58:57 Basil: but that shares all keystrokes 19:59:12 I want to implement like a 5 second window to collect keystrokes over 20:03:48 -!- notcluie has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:04:11 -!- KurzedMetal has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:07:44 oh. bh, I was confused about the wizmode comment. good luck 20:08:59 -!- asema has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:11:24 ijyb in elf 20:11:26 was the commit that re-added horrible backfiring effects to zin's invoke in nostalgia? 20:11:28 that seems kind of outclassed 20:11:56 PleasingFungus: yes 20:12:14 03elliptic02 07* 0.15-a0-124-g66d6093: Fix ranged attacks from invisible monsters not turning off autopickup. 10(6 minutes ago, 1 file, 6+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=66d6093a998e 20:12:15 Cherry-picked 1 commit into stone_soup-0.14 20:12:45 (cherry-picked because 0.14 is the version that still has vapours :P) 20:13:16 !seen Medar 20:13:16 I last saw Medar at Wed Apr 9 17:04:04 2014 UTC (1d 8h 9m 12s ago) saying 'first release is to make people underestimate them?' on ##crawl-dev. 20:13:40 -!- iliekturtles has quit [Quit: leaving] 20:18:01 -!- asema has quit [Changing host] 20:18:25 can any of you help me understand how webtiles in wired up? I'm primarily unsure of where defined() things go 20:23:21 -!- Yllodra has quit [] 20:27:51 ??server guide 20:27:51 I don't have a page labeled server_guide in my learndb. 20:34:18 -!- notcluie has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:36:54 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:37:54 -!- st_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:38:28 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 20:39:17 -!- DrinkMachine has joined ##crawl-dev 20:40:18 -!- Watball has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:43:01 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:44:14 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 20:52:18 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 20:56:44 -!- GDR has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 20:56:59 -!- bh has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:57:50 -!- ChongLi has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 21:00:48 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:03:49 -!- jday_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:05:31 I'm playing with an unrand sword that fires lightning bolts. trying to figure out if it would be more interesting with a cooldown after each shot, or contam per-shot. 21:06:17 how do you fire the bolts? evoke? 21:07:05 olgreb works by using the player's MP for it 21:07:15 evoke, yep 21:07:37 I'm worried that using mp may not be a good balancing mechanism, since this would probably be a melee weapon for primary melee chars, who don't have as much use for mp as a staff-user 21:08:03 I'd be more worried that people will swap it in just for the lightning bolt 21:08:10 and never melee with it 21:08:30 is it a triple sword 21:08:34 that'd be a little goofy 21:08:35 which is a reason why most unrand weapons have effects tied to hitting things with them 21:08:38 it's a greatsword 21:08:54 (also, passive effects are better) 21:09:00 hm. could have it have a chance of firing a lightning bolt on impact 21:09:06 ??arc blade 21:09:06 arc blade[1/1]: +3,+5 cutlass with rElec that casts {Static Discharge} on stuff you hit with it. 21:09:10 cough cough staff of torment 21:09:12 we do have this already, too :P 21:09:18 static discharge isn't cool 21:09:22 :( 21:09:39 imo come up with an idea for blowgun of the assassin/knife of accuracy 21:09:50 one thing at a time!!! 21:10:03 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:10:13 I wanted to revive lehudib's crystal spear but I'm not sure the joke works as well as "lehudib's crystal javelin" 21:10:19 yes 21:10:21 *as well with 21:10:25 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 21:10:30 "No one knows which came first, the spear or the javelin!" 21:11:05 also I think the code might turn into a nightmare, just to allow a one-off unrand throwing weapon 21:11:35 hm. could you get away with it being an actual spear that evokes to 'throw'? that'd be a bit silly... 21:11:50 there is a reason why the LCS unrand was simply removed, yes 21:11:56 :( 21:12:14 look, if we can't go to enormous lengths to preserve silly in-jokes 21:12:17 what's even the point of crawl? 21:18:04 the other unrand idea I was thinking about was a staff that gave huge spellcasting benefits in exchange for costing 2hp/mana every time you cast with it 21:18:06 ??dpeg 21:18:06 dpeg[1/9]: If you can't be bothered to type it into the wiki, we cannot be bothered to flesh it out or code it. Use the wiki! 21:18:10 oh 21:18:18 well, I'm the one who's going to code these things 21:18:20 -!- rubinko has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:18:21 I'm just talking about it here 21:18:41 because I coded out the lightning sword thing & drew a placeholder sprite for it (two, actually) 21:19:00 and then my dreams were cruelly dashed and I need to rethink the whole thing 21:22:48 PleasingFungus: you had better be working on a claymore that chain lightnings on hit! 21:22:51 <_< 21:22:53 haha 21:23:02 and that doesn't give relec 21:23:23 chain lightning doesn't the caster much either way 21:23:32 doesn't hurt, rather 21:23:38 exec axe of conjure ball lightning on hit (counts each cleave separately) 21:24:05 axenado 21:24:18 tasmanian devil style 21:25:08 Evoke axe for tornado; whenever tornado is active it automatically hits everything next to it. 21:25:18 s/it au/the axe au/ 21:25:55 but grunt, 'tornado' is taken! 21:26:00 Whirlwind Axe 21:27:08 axe of the Hurricane 21:27:33 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Saindo] 21:27:50 Tropical Depression Axe 21:28:01 in hawaiian t-shirt colors 21:28:14 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.15-a0-125-ge11d844: Remove some references to auto_list 10(65 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=e11d844c9f19 21:28:14 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.15-a0-126-g36b3b84: Update hints mode messages 10(9 minutes ago, 3 files, 51+ 83-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=36b3b84791ed 21:28:15 Cherry-picked 3 commits into stone_soup-0.14 21:28:16 fr hawaiian T-shirt 21:28:16 seconded 21:28:21 fr: sandals 21:28:27 MarvinPA can't take a hint, it seems 21:28:28 <_< 21:28:44 as hats are to boots; 0 ac, can be worn with talons 21:29:09 I think you meant that first part to be "to boots as hats are to helmets" 21:29:18 uh 21:29:19 maybe 21:29:25 * Grunt gives PleasingFungus the boot. 21:29:28 rip 21:29:41 -!- home has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:30:16 MarvinPA: todo: move hint messages to the database so they can be translated? 21:30:50 some are in there already 21:30:58 s/hint/more &/ 21:31:01 no idea what the distinction is between those that are and those that aren't 21:31:27 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 21:31:46 earlier, I coded up an alternate variant of the elec sword that's a +7 longsword with +7 to all attributes (no rElec, no lightning bolt) 21:31:54 (it's the seven-branched sword) 21:32:00 that might be hilariously OP, though 21:33:34 -!- GoblinBomb has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:34:23 i thought the tile got removed though 21:34:35 it did, and also it was really bad. 21:34:39 I ended up having to draw new tiles. 21:34:54 the old one wasn't really usable for anything. 21:35:14 -!- shobalk has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:37:37 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 21:37:57 http://i.imgur.com/8wS02lM.png http://i.imgur.com/4QpEzwn.png behold, my incredible spritesmanship 21:38:26 -!- Basil has quit [Read error: No route to host] 21:38:27 go kill qbert with it 21:38:47 is this qbert snake tile in UNUSED somewhere? 21:40:02 haha wtf why is there a hydrataur sprite 21:40:32 not in UNUSED? 21:40:44 no it's in unused 21:40:44 I'm just amazed it exists at all 21:40:52 %git :/[hHy]drataur 21:40:56 07kilobyte02 * 0.14-a0-784-g4494170: Remove the hydrataur. 10(5 months ago, 4 files, 0+ 30-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=449417009e46 21:41:18 ...I'd thought it was just a learndb injoke 21:41:32 that's what the vault was based on 21:41:44 huh 21:41:46 so I see 21:41:58 possibly what the idea of abyssal stairs was based on 21:42:35 I'm... really tempted to try to salvage this 21:42:42 but I have so many other things on my plate! 21:43:06 -!- Basil has joined ##crawl-dev 21:44:17 -!- Lasty1 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:51:50 -!- BirdoPrey has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:54:36 -!- hurdos has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 21:56:18 -!- Keanan has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:57:12 -!- Keanan has joined ##crawl-dev 21:58:42 03wheals02 07* 0.15-a0-127-g762d21a: Remove some more djinn code. 10(24 minutes ago, 9 files, 9+ 156-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=762d21af96ae 21:58:44 Prognosis of skill training by Sandman25 21:59:30 wheals: FISH! 21:59:35 yes, rip 21:59:41 !send wheals Grinder 21:59:42 Sending Grinder to wheals. 22:00:04 jellyfish, fishing items, and that fishing supply shop 22:00:05 all gone 22:00:18 -!- Klightning has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:00:36 oh i guess removing fishing was an actual gameplay change 22:00:38 !send wheals big fish 22:00:38 Sending big fish to wheals. 22:00:42 !send wheals giant goldfish 22:00:42 Sending giant goldfish to wheals. 22:00:42 f that 22:00:53 IYTM "; that" 22:00:54 ??? 22:00:54 I don't have a page labeled ? in my learndb. Did you mean: !, #, &, ', *, +, 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 8, 9, d, o, t, u, v, ©. 22:00:55 ...fishing? 22:01:14 right, lava fish too 22:01:18 -!- trystero has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:01:47 PleasingFungus: - unwind_var partial(item.quantity, quant ? quant : item.quantity); 22:01:48 - mprf("You fish the %s out of the water.", item.name(DESC_PLAIN).c_str()); 22:01:48 - you.time_taken += 5; 22:03:10 wow I never knew that Djs went fishing 22:03:31 and I already thought the species was gimmicky 22:03:34 elliptic: so there was always something fishy about them... 22:04:34 currently they're gone fishin' 22:06:14 ahh 22:11:07 -!- Lightli_ has joined ##crawl-dev 22:11:19 * Lightli_ jokingly asks why Djinn were removed 22:13:18 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:13:40 -!- Lightli_ is now known as Lightli 22:21:41 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 22:23:01 -!- ciph has quit [Quit: »¶Ó­TRPGerÏÂÔØmIRC for TRPGÌرð(²âÊÔ)°æ~ÇëÊäÈë!get mirc,ÀÏÓû§Éý¼¶°üÇë!get mircupdate] 22:23:33 03Grunt02 07* 0.15-a0-128-g9b6c994: Give monster warnings their own channel. 10(2 minutes ago, 6 files, 8+ 5-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=9b6c9948161b 22:25:11 -!- KurzedMetal has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:29:19 question to anyone that can read the code: how (un)common are bad potions in general right now? [if Evap was brought back without Fulsome or anything discussed in the recent thread was created...we'd have to have those numbers and be ready to tweak it.] 22:29:38 -!- ToastyP has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 28.0/20140314220517]] 22:34:06 -!- dtsund has left ##crawl-dev 22:34:09 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 22:36:23 Cabadath: See makeitem.cc, lines 2341-2365 22:36:44 That particular segment of code has fairly obvious meaning even if you can't read C++ 22:37:45 -!- Thalfon has quit [] 22:37:52 -!- ldlework has quit [Excess Flood] 22:39:06 I can code; it's just...I usually work alone so my own stuff is never this large. 22:39:31 grepgrepgrep 22:40:04 Basil? 22:40:16 Mr. Rathbone, that was extremely cryptic. 22:40:29 Cabadath: nobody claimed you should have been able to find it yourself 22:40:44 though Basil did mention a tool that we often use to try to find things 22:40:51 Basil: Cabadath might be a Windows programmer, though 22:40:53 or should I say Rosemary 22:41:08 -!- debo has quit [Quit: debo] 22:41:09 * SamB <- uses grep on Windows 22:41:47 SamB: Sure, but that means you've taken time to set up Unix utils on Windows with Cygwin or something 22:42:03 -!- KurzedMetal has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:42:21 I'm windows, yes. Also mostly unity...and I'm better as a 3D artist...though capable in most parts of the design process...though working alone does stunt design potential sometimes. 22:42:21 it's not bundled free with gitmsys or whatever it's called? 22:42:27 msysgit? 22:42:36 (and I'm fairly sure it is) 22:42:49 msysgit has it yeah, that's what i used before setting up cygwin 22:42:54 well, s/bundled free with/added to path by/ 22:43:52 msysgit falls under "taken time to set up Unix utils on Windows" 22:46:24 if you have the code presumably you compiled it 22:46:27 ctags and cscope made crawling the crawl code MUCH more interesting 22:46:40 and that's the only way to do it on windows afaik 22:46:41 wheals: not *quite* a valid assumption 22:47:03 Didn't it support MSVC at some point? Did that get broken? 22:47:05 but it certainly does not hurt to be able to see the code in action 22:47:30 dtsund: I think you still need the MSYS toolchain to run some auxiliary scripts/programs 22:50:42 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:50:53 That sounds plausible to me 22:53:33 the main goal having been to allow using MSVC's IDE, so you get stuff like intellisense and the debugger 22:56:21 -!- Eonwe6 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 22:57:15 -!- Cabadath is now known as Tsar_Baldy_Bald_ 22:57:25 -!- Tsar_Baldy_Bald_ is now known as TsarBaldyBaldIV 23:01:24 -!- Nethris has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:10:17 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:10:39 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 23:13:08 -!- dtsund has left ##crawl-dev 23:15:18 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 23:21:56 -!- Lawman0 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:22:04 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 23:23:07 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 23:27:33 -!- asdu has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:27:40 -!- mamgar has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:27:48 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:33:25 -!- ebarrett has joined ##crawl-dev 23:34:52 -!- Sgun has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:39:18 -!- neckro_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:40:18 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:40:36 -!- rchandra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:42:06 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:46:56 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 23:48:14 -!- N78291 has quit [Quit: null] 23:49:03 -!- MiracleKinacle has quit [Client Quit] 23:49:22 -!- buzzykins has quit [Quit: brb] 23:49:24 -!- eb_ has joined ##crawl-dev 23:49:29 -!- Red_Bucket has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:50:17 -!- MiracleKinacle has quit [Client Quit] 23:50:23 -!- Mad_Wack is now known as Mad_Wack_Away 23:50:29 -!- Mad_Wack_Away has quit [Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. 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