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it lied to me 02:47:26 i'll double check 02:48:16 yupp. still there 02:51:14 -!- DrinkMachine has joined ##crawl-dev 02:51:14 -!- DrinkMachine has quit [Changing host] 02:51:14 -!- DrinkMachine has joined ##crawl-dev 02:51:39 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:59:18 -!- Yermak has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:03:57 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 03:09:00 -!- Keanan has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 03:10:14 -!- gammafunk has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 03:20:20 -!- jeffro_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:20:58 -!- jeffro has joined ##crawl-dev 03:23:11 -!- Basil has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 03:26:41 -!- Quashie has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 03:42:16 -!- pelotron_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 03:46:26 -!- SeianVerian has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:47:03 -!- Nivim has joined ##crawl-dev 03:48:56 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:53:36 -!- alefury has joined ##crawl-dev 04:04:59 -!- Blazinghand has quit 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seconds] 05:37:06 -!- MP2E has quit [Quit: night] 05:47:30 -!- DrinkMachine has joined ##crawl-dev 05:53:59 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Quit: Excess flood] 05:58:46 -!- conted has quit [Quit: Page closed] 05:58:57 -!- julian____ has joined ##crawl-dev 05:59:11 Flure (L24 MiBe) ASSERT(this) in 'actor.h' at line 33 failed. (Pan) 05:59:27 -!- Pacra has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 06:00:15 -!- Basil has joined ##crawl-dev 06:08:24 -!- DrinkMachine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 06:18:34 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:20:33 -!- dck has joined ##crawl-dev 06:22:29 -!- julian____ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:35:45 -!- kait_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 06:40:23 -!- Keanan has quit [Client Quit] 06:41:43 -!- BlackrayJack has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:47:51 Does radius_iterator and such start at the center and spiral outwards 06:48:29 I don't think they have any intentional guarantee on the order of traversal 06:48:43 hmmm 06:49:31 Trying to switch between only checking your current tile and checking all tiles in LOS 06:50:14 but C_POINTY doesn't check a few tiles and C_ROUND checks 5 tiles at radius 0 06:50:39 hmm 06:50:49 maybe radius = -1 for C_POINTY would work 06:50:53 or C_ROUND rather 06:51:47 it does not 06:52:12 for LOS you want you.pos(), LOS_DEFAULT 06:52:13 I assume 06:53:20 currently I'm using LOS_NO_TRANS 06:53:33 which is what the code I'm rewriting used 06:54:26 hmm 06:54:26 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 06:54:27 -!- Licorane has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:54:36 Sure, but why do you need any circle_type? 06:55:39 The only radius_iterator constructor(s) with radius argument also have required circle_type arguments 06:56:16 -!- HellTiger has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 06:57:00 Hmm. Just make the inner part of the loop a function and handle you.pos separately? 06:57:06 there's a separate iterator for LOS I thought 06:57:18 I don't know the iterators though, so maybe it's possible otherwise too. 06:57:19 but maybe not 06:57:28 it's been ages since I've seen any of that code... 06:57:58 -!- radinms has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 06:59:43 hmm 06:59:48 distance_iterator might work 07:02:17 That does it 07:02:19 Thank you 07:02:20 looking at the code radius_iterator(pos, LOS_RADIUS_SQ, C_CIRCLE, LOS_NO_TRANS) 07:02:23 should be equal 07:02:39 to the without radius and circle_type that is 07:03:33 -!- Adumbration has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 07:05:57 -!- julian____ has joined ##crawl-dev 07:06:39 -!- eith has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 07:17:27 Oh hm, I remember why I didn't use distance_iterator in the first place 07:17:50 Can't specify LOS_NO_TRANS 07:17:51 hmm 07:18:12 something wrong with what I said? 07:18:36 moment 07:18:39 -!- eith|2 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 07:18:58 -!- eith has joined ##crawl-dev 07:19:01 if you look at the constructor implementations it seems pretty straight forward 07:22:09 I seem to be getting the same problem that I had with C_POINTY 07:23:07 -!- iasov has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 07:23:17 in that for example, the tiles directly left or right of the tile 8 units north of you aren't checked 07:23:49 <|amethyst> are you passing LOS_RADIUS_SQ ? 07:24:14 <|amethyst> or 64? 07:25:24 Oh, my mistake 07:25:37 that solved that problem, but I'm back to the problem I had with C_ROUND 07:25:49 <|amethyst> what was the problem again? 07:26:02 <|amethyst> that if you give a radius of 0 it iterates over more than just the player? 07:26:06 <|amethyst> s/player/center/ 07:26:15 Yes 07:26:40 <|amethyst> What are you doing exactly that you need to iterate with radius 0? 07:27:16 I'm trying to make auto_sacrifice work with Fedhas 07:27:38 to do so, I'm making Fedhas somewhat more similar to corpse gods 07:27:53 if you're standing on a corpse, only the corpses on your tile are sacrificed 07:29:26 else all corpses in LOS are sacrificed 07:29:26 <|amethyst> why do you even need an iterator in the previous case? 07:29:26 <|amethyst> I guess so you can pass either 0 or 8 to the same function? 07:29:26 godabil.cc line 1983 07:29:27 or hm, my line number is a little different due to changes 07:29:46 <|amethyst> our line numbers don't match, you mean the for loop in fedhas_fungal_bloom ? 07:30:05 either way, I'm hoping to avoid code duplication by changing that a bit 07:30:06 correct. 07:30:29 I could instead use a bool for whether you're standing on a corpse 07:30:44 <|amethyst> Basil: you could use C_CIRCLE with either LOS_RADIUS_SQ or 0 07:30:47 and continue if bool && iterator ~= you.pos 07:31:53 That sounds like it will do it 07:31:57 I'll check 07:32:30 <|amethyst> another way might be to make a function that does that to one square, then either call it in the loop, or call it once 07:32:37 -!- Sgeo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:32:50 and it does 07:32:50 <|amethyst> but then you'd need either a class or a bunch of reference parameters to track seen_mushrooms, seen_corpses, etc 07:32:59 very good 07:33:10 -!- pelotr0n has quit [Quit: ~Internet()] 07:33:17 Thank you. 07:33:37 <|amethyst> maybe add a comment indicating why you're using that instead of C_ROUND or C_POINTY 07:34:45 mmm 07:35:05 <|amethyst> "C_ROUND doesn't handle a radius of zero, and C_POINTY doesn't fill LOS" 07:35:07 <|amethyst> etc 07:35:09 Before I put the patch up on mantis, there's a couple other alternatives that I see to make Fedhas work with auto_sacrifice 07:35:22 do los-sacrifice whenever you press o 07:35:50 or do los-sacrifice whenever you would sacrifice one corpse with a corpse god 07:36:21 any preference? 07:40:06 <|amethyst> I think that depends on whether corpse-/chunk-eating stays 07:41:20 Well, it currently is in, so cross that bridge when we get there 07:41:24 unless you know something I don't 07:42:31 <|amethyst> Just that more than one dev has discussed removing it from most races in 0.15... I guess it will stay for some races either way 07:42:41 <|amethyst> so still needs to be considered 07:44:08 Oh, that's the walk over corpses for nutrition thing? 07:44:12 <|amethyst> On the one hand, you don't really want autosacrifice to be significantly less efficient with the player's time than using p 07:44:16 <|amethyst> no 07:44:29 <|amethyst> permafood-only 07:44:44 mmm 07:50:26 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.14-a0-2731-g85431af: Count lightning spires as objects 10(10 hours ago, 1 file, 2+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=85431affb761 07:50:26 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.14-a0-2732-ga253274: More character selection menu colour adjustments 10(7 hours ago, 1 file, 43+ 43-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=a253274b23a6 07:50:26 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.14-a0-2733-g6e8a634: Swap spell levels of Battlesphere and Fulminant Prism 10(7 hours ago, 2 files, 4+ 4-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=6e8a634f6930 07:50:30 <|amethyst> except for kobolds, trolls, ghouls, felids 07:50:30 Right 07:50:30 -!- Cheibriados has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 07:51:40 -!- Cheibriados has joined ##crawl-dev 07:51:40 -!- The topic of ##crawl-dev is: Crawl Development | Logs: http://s-z.org/crawl-dev/ | People with +v have commit access. | Please keep general Crawl-related chit-chat to ##crawl. | Dev wiki: http://crawl.develz.org/wiki | Long stuff to pastebin.ca please | Immortal Warwalrus and Crazy Yiuf forever. 07:51:40 -!- The topic of ##crawl is: Check out new European server at ??clan! | Play Crawl online now: type ??cao, ??cdo, ??cszo, ??clan, or ??webtiles for instructions | http://crawl.develz.org | FooTV: termcast.develz.org | ##crawl-offtopic: You got your gender in my peanut butter! Xom thinks this is hilarious. 07:52:55 -!- Medra has joined ##crawl-dev 07:53:20 -!- julian__1_ has joined ##crawl-dev 07:53:54 -!- TZer0_ has joined ##crawl-dev 07:59:42 -!- scummos__ has quit [*.net *.split] 07:59:42 -!- julian____ has quit [*.net *.split] 07:59:43 -!- Calico has quit [*.net *.split] 07:59:43 -!- Kintak has quit [*.net *.split] 07:59:43 -!- crate has quit [*.net *.split] 07:59:43 -!- Voker57 has quit [*.net *.split] 07:59:44 -!- hhkb has quit [*.net *.split] 07:59:44 -!- tupper has quit [*.net *.split] 07:59:45 -!- odiv has quit [*.net *.split] 07:59:45 -!- myrmidette has quit [*.net *.split] 07:59:45 -!- ktgrey has quit [*.net *.split] 07:59:45 -!- sirtheta has quit [*.net *.split] 07:59:46 -!- Lprsti99 has quit [*.net *.split] 07:59:46 -!- Fuzzwah has quit [*.net *.split] 07:59:48 -!- TZer0 has quit [*.net *.split] 07:59:48 -!- Medar has quit [*.net *.split] 08:03:49 -!- eith|2 has joined ##crawl-dev 08:05:09 -!- clouded_ has joined ##crawl-dev 08:05:30 UglyThing (L17 MfHe) ERROR in 'mon-util.cc' at line 1419: bogus mc (no monster data): invalid monster_type 1000 (1000) (Depths:1) 08:05:42 <|amethyst> MarvinPA: FP to 4 sounds interesting; now I'll have to try out a Cj 08:07:47 <|amethyst> it always sounded neat, but I usually had better things to do with my slots, like battlesphere 08:07:47 <|amethyst> force lance could probably use some revision as well or maybe just more books? 08:09:25 <|amethyst> (knockback chance still depends only on target weight, not on power (except for its effect on accuracy), which would be the obvious place to start tweaking 08:09:29 <|amethyst> ) 08:09:46 -!- hhkb has joined ##crawl-dev 08:10:41 -!- odiv_ has quit [Write error: Connection reset by peer] 08:10:49 mmm 08:10:55 What are the goals for force lance? 08:11:01 -!- phyphor has quit [Write error: Broken pipe] 08:11:01 -!- necKro has quit [Write error: Connection reset by peer] 08:11:01 -!- buki has quit [Write error: Connection reset by peer] 08:11:11 -!- k2grey has quit [Ping timeout: 570 seconds] 08:11:30 like "knock almost everyone back a tile, but rarely push the bigger dudes two"? 08:12:15 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:15:13 -!- moose has quit [Excess Flood] 08:15:35 -!- moose has joined ##crawl-dev 08:15:48 -!- eith has quit [Ping timeout: 367 seconds] 08:15:49 -!- st_ has quit [Ping timeout: 367 seconds] 08:15:49 -!- soundlust|2 has quit [Ping timeout: 367 seconds] 08:15:50 -!- lavos has quit [Ping timeout: 367 seconds] 08:17:22 -!- clouded_ is now known as st_ 08:18:08 -!- Quazifuji has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:18:44 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:19:43 -!- Foamed has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:20:39 -!- Kintak has quit [*.net *.split] 08:20:39 -!- hhkb has quit [*.net *.split] 08:20:40 -!- Lprsti99 has quit [*.net *.split] 08:26:17 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 08:26:55 -!- johlstei_ has joined ##crawl-dev 08:27:37 -!- Licorane has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:28:12 Let auto_sacrifice work with Fedhas. by Sage 08:28:42 how does what you describe in the ticket interact with before_explore? 08:29:07 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 08:29:07 Like Oka 08:29:15 ooooo 08:29:32 it stops on each corpse, turns that stack into a shroom, stops on the next corpse 08:29:37 -!- Calico_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 08:29:39 aha, okay 08:33:55 -!- hhkb has joined ##crawl-dev 08:34:42 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Client Quit] 08:35:35 -!- wheals has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:36:42 -!- SkaryMonk has joined ##crawl-dev 08:37:36 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 08:37:46 -!- magicpoints has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:38:09 -!- kats has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:38:10 -!- rast has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:38:11 -!- Adder_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:38:15 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:38:17 -!- tkappleton has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:38:17 -!- johlstei has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:38:17 -!- kunwon1 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:38:20 -!- pantaril has quit [*.net *.split] 08:38:21 -!- SkaryMonk1 has quit [*.net *.split] 08:39:35 -!- kunwon1 has joined ##crawl-dev 08:43:39 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 08:55:53 -!- julian__1_ has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 09:09:55 Is it fair game to discuss how Dith's Shadow Mimic should work here? I didn't get any dev/veteran input on that topic in the forums, but since I like Dith I'd like to figure out how to improve it. 09:13:33 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 09:15:14 -!- daek_ is now known as Daekdroom 09:18:27 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 09:20:06 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 09:26:54 -!- xnavy__ is now known as xnavy 09:33:10 -!- _aardvark has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:36:51 -!- NeremWorld has quit [] 09:38:57 -!- tensorpudding has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 09:49:58 -!- wheals has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:50:15 -!- Lasty has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:51:37 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 09:54:38 -!- Mateji has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:58:48 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 10:03:47 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:05:46 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.14-a0-2734-g7f0ab47: Update Summon Lightning Spire desc 10(7 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=7f0ab476c6a4 10:09:50 -!- ground4 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:12:24 -!- Licorane_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:16:15 -!- ystael_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:17:15 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 10:17:23 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 10:19:06 -!- rast- has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:22:17 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Saindo] 10:23:09 -!- Joey_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:23:14 !messages 10:23:14 No messages for TZer0_. 10:23:18 oh, damn 10:23:22 -!- TZer0_ is now known as TZer0 10:23:24 !messages 10:23:25 No messages for TZer0. 10:29:24 -!- Morg0th has quit [Quit: leaving] 10:30:17 -!- Squiggler has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:32:18 -!- Quazifuji has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:34:46 -!- _aardvark has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:34:52 -!- Mandevil has quit [Quit: leaving] 10:35:48 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:36:53 -!- ldf has joined ##crawl-dev 10:40:24 -!- home has quit [Changing host] 10:43:11 -!- gnum has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:45:21 -!- Mateji has quit [Client Quit] 10:52:46 -!- Wah has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:52:55 -!- BigBluFrog has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:53:38 -!- Adumbration has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:01:51 -!- blabber has joined ##crawl-dev 11:01:51 -!- Kasofa has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:01:51 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:01:51 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 30.0a1/20140210030201]] 11:04:51 -!- rlund_ has joined ##crawl-dev 11:07:46 -!- squimmy has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:09:14 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 11:09:21 -!- Superterranean has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 11:09:37 -!- Quashie has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:11:46 -!- minmay has joined ##crawl-dev 11:13:32 -!- _aardvark has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:13:32 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.14-a0-2734-g7f0ab47 (34) 11:15:08 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 11:18:29 -!- SamB has joined ##crawl-dev 11:23:57 -!- athros has quit [Quit: leaving] 11:30:15 so why does the flight spell still exist 11:30:42 -!- syllogism has joined ##crawl-dev 11:37:09 -!- Nexos has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:37:23 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 11:38:45 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 11:41:39 -!- zz_adolchristin is now known as adolchristin 11:42:54 why wouldn't flight exist? 11:43:22 dig was gone, flight is one of the last obvious non-combat spells 11:43:45 -!- Sizzell has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:44:04 -!- |amethyst has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:50:50 flight isnt gone because water exists 11:51:07 also rmsl just got changed to be a non-combat spell so not sure i buy your argument :p 11:51:07 -!- stabwound has joined ##crawl-dev 11:51:15 -!- crate_ is now known as crate 11:52:06 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 11:54:46 -!- hams` is now known as kats 11:55:17 -!- Foamed has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 12:00:14 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:07:01 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 12:08:03 -!- |amethyst has joined ##crawl-dev 12:11:53 -!- Sizzell has joined ##crawl-dev 12:14:25 -!- eith has joined ##crawl-dev 12:19:10 -!- rast- has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:20:36 did you know 12:20:41 the new minimap looks great 12:20:48 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 12:24:01 !locate bloax 12:24:02 bloax was last seen on CSZO (Bloaxzorro, L16 OpSk of Cheibriados). 12:24:08 &watch bloax 12:24:09 $watch Bloax 12:24:11 all hail ontoclasm 12:24:24 $watch Bloax 12:24:31 grr 12:24:38 !watch Bloax 12:24:38 No current CAO game for Bloax. 12:25:18 i'm not playing you silly goose 12:25:25 right, but it's not sayign that 12:25:32 Henzell at least did 12:26:11 I guess it's the fact that you have no save on CAO 12:27:18 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:29:16 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 12:31:28 -!- Quazifuji has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:33:41 -!- KurzedMetal has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 12:37:43 -!- rossi has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 12:43:51 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 12:47:33 -!- nixor has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:50:30 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 12:53:54 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:56:09 -!- jeanjacques has quit [Quit: quit] 12:59:11 -!- alefury has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Iceweasel 26.0/20131215102647]] 13:00:13 -!- Kasofa has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:08:15 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 13:15:38 -!- joey_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:17:27 -!- wheals has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:23:36 -!- schistosomatic has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:26:13 -!- alefury has joined ##crawl-dev 13:27:17 -!- jmbto has joined ##crawl-dev 13:29:11 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 13:31:35 hi 13:31:55 hey 13:32:09 I'd like to dicuss my findings about the salamander simulacra in PM with anyone interested/available 13:32:23 -!- bmfx has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:33:07 Super secret stuff? 13:34:13 what could be as secret as ice that doesn't melt in lava 13:34:34 oh so I can talk about it there then :) 13:34:39 *here 13:35:15 Can't see why not 13:36:37 -!- bh has joined ##crawl-dev 13:36:42 howdy 13:37:27 Don't reveal details of the dangerous salamander simulacra exploit on public channels! 13:37:29 -!- schistosomatic has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:37:35 uh? 13:38:07 bh: wrt to discussing them in PM, which was mentioned before you came in 13:39:10 err, so I tried moving various monsters to lava in wizard mode 13:39:27 isn't it even on mantis 13:39:29 but they aren(t even damaged 13:39:38 I checked, doesn't seem so 13:39:44 and no, they aren't geckos 13:39:54 -!- DrinkMachine has joined ##crawl-dev 13:39:56 I'm talking about orcs and hydras 13:40:28 objects and player are burned though 13:40:34 err items 13:40:36 maybe that's just how wizard mode works? 13:40:39 or how did you move them 13:40:44 I moved them 13:41:12 the player can die, items are dissolved 13:41:23 not the monsters 13:41:56 no mons_check_pool call done 13:42:01 doesn't really matter if the monsters can't end up there normally 13:42:11 outside wizmode that is 13:42:29 -!- MP2E has quit [Quit: bbl] 13:42:59 how does one move monsters in wiz mode anyhow? 13:43:04 I've never actually thought to do that 13:43:08 maybe you can test by confusing monsters near lava or something 13:43:36 gammafunk: xm in wizmode to move yourself or monsters 13:43:58 that probably just skips some tests 13:44:06 -!- Medra is now known as Medar 13:44:16 oh right, I use xm for player all the time, but just not for monsters 13:44:17 in the past it was possible to get over lava without flying as a player too, for a short time 13:44:22 (original constriction) 13:44:37 jmbto: yeah as a player you can put yourself in a solid feature no problem 13:44:44 in wizmode I mean 13:44:49 ah, when the orc is confused while in lava, he does die 13:44:52 but that's not a bug with the game outside of wizmode 13:45:41 huh ok then 13:45:46 that's too bad 13:46:18 that means I'm gonna have more trouble reproducing the bug if I can't rely on wizmode 13:46:29 what bug? 13:47:02 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=8177 13:47:24 well, just let it move to lava by itself 13:47:43 as long as you don't move the monster there, wizmode should be fine 13:48:12 jmbto: just learn simulacra, make some lava monsters, kill them for chunks, and create them 13:48:38 maybe then displace them into lava if they won't go themselves 13:49:35 you should be able to just create the simulacra directly with wizmode too 13:53:43 yeah I did that 13:54:03 and he moves through the lava 13:54:13 there you go then 13:54:37 -!- jasper_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:56:53 -!- Crehl has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 13:57:31 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 13:59:04 aha 13:59:08 the habitat 13:59:08 So the 0-day lava simulacra exploit is in the wild. God help us all 13:59:33 simulacra' habitat is land 13:59:59 this salamander simulacrum's habitat is lava 14:00:24 and mons_check_pool does a check on the monster's habitat 14:00:50 ...I guess I'm going to learn how simulacra are created 14:01:07 rofl gammafunk 14:01:43 are you destroying fun gfunk 14:02:44 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 14:02:56 dck I monitor every game you play and calculate your fun quotient. If fun exceeds acceptable levels I activate my Fun Destroyer patch bot. 14:02:57 -!- bh has quit [Quit: nap] 14:03:37 Beep, hazardous levels of fun detected. 14:04:24 -!- Kintak has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:04:53 -!- Basil has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 14:05:14 fr: Fun status light. Deep red Fun 14:05:38 always lit for xomites? 14:07:11 why would you have tension 14:07:11 when you can have Fun! 14:07:19 -!- BigBluFrog has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:19:44 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:20:13 -!- honeybadger has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:21:29 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:24:21 -!- odiv has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:26:00 -!- ldlework is now known as mokau 14:26:10 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:29:51 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:30:15 -!- BigBluFrog has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:33:55 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:39:08 113 // Zombified monsters enjoy the same habitat as their original. 14:39:11 114 const monster_type mt = mons_base_type(mon); 14:41:15 oh wait 14:41:18 overloaded 14:41:28 X( 14:43:03 oh wait doesn't matter 14:44:08 is it coherent to give a simulacrum a different habitat than its base_type? 14:45:00 like, if I break this, zombie fishes might not even swim anymore 14:45:08 they will attack you on land 14:45:16 rubinko (L27 TeFE) ASSERT(this) in 'actor.h' at line 33 failed. (Pan) 14:47:06 -!- mokau is now known as lamokauku 14:47:40 -!- lamokauku is now known as ldlework 14:49:26 !crashlog rubinko 14:49:31 5. rubinko, XL27 TeFE, T:89141 (milestone): http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/rubinko/crash-rubinko-20140220-204513.txt 14:49:32 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:49:33 is there a problem in fishes not needing air attacking you on land 14:53:17 ah, looks like a problem with my is_unchivalric_attack change 14:54:12 -!- Barahir_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:57:44 I see the bug 14:57:56 I should squish it like a grape 14:58:30 Bloax: that's what I'm asking 14:58:50 I mean like, standing on land 14:59:05 not in the water 14:59:15 I don't think that would be good. 14:59:23 It's not the breathing, it's the moving. 14:59:33 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:00:23 -!- omnirizon has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 15:01:00 -!- wheals_ has joined ##crawl-dev 15:01:01 Maybe special case amphibious_lava -> land 15:01:06 Not sure though 15:01:38 Medar: I see the problem with rubinko's crash; failure to check that attacker is non-null at fight.cc:441, but the fix is probably to clean up the holy resistance logic a bit 15:02:17 I won't have time to fix it until tomorrow, though 15:02:54 Hmm, is it easy to trigger or more of an edge case? 15:03:16 -!- wheals has quit [Disconnected by services] 15:03:19 -!- wheals_ is now known as wheals 15:03:29 this was TSO cleansing flame wrath, so probably fairly easy to trigger 15:03:32 _You start resting. 15:03:32 Jiyva says: Divide and consume! 15:03:32 You hear the hiss of flowing sand. 15:03:32 There is an entrance to an ossuary on this level. Hurry and find it before the 15:03:32 portal is buried! 15:03:33 You hear the hiss of flowing sand. 15:03:35 There is an entrance to an ossuary on this level. Hurry and find it before the 15:03:39 portal is buried! 15:03:41 You hear the hiss of flowing sand. 15:03:43 There is an entrance to an ossuary on this level. Hurry and find it before the 15:03:45 portal is buried! 15:03:46 in this case attacker is NULL (since it's god wrath) 15:03:47 You hear the hiss of flowing sand. 15:03:49 There is an entrance to an ossuary on this level. Hurry and find it before the 15:03:51 portal is buried! 15:03:53 You hear the hiss of flowing sand. 15:03:53 wheals: Known bug. Pretty sure it's on mantis. 15:03:55 There is an entrance to an ossuary on this level. Hurry and find it before the 15:03:57 _portal is buried! 15:03:59 oops 15:04:00 wheals: hi. stop 15:04:01 anyway that probably isn't intended 15:04:05 ok, should have checked 15:04:08 -!- alefury has quit [*.net *.split] 15:04:09 -!- hhkb has quit [*.net *.split] 15:04:10 -!- Lprsti99 has quit [*.net *.split] 15:04:20 Might not be too, I know it has been mentioned here. 15:04:48 we have pastebin for blocks of text like that 15:04:50 yes 15:04:54 i didn't mean to paste it 15:04:58 oh ok 15:05:08 -!- F-Glex has joined ##crawl-dev 15:05:16 -!- Crehl_ has quit [*.net *.split] 15:05:16 -!- Zeor has quit [*.net *.split] 15:05:16 -!- SeianVerian has quit [*.net *.split] 15:05:16 -!- home has quit [*.net *.split] 15:05:17 -!- angry_point has quit [*.net *.split] 15:05:17 -!- tensorpudding has quit [*.net *.split] 15:05:17 -!- tkappleton1 has quit [*.net *.split] 15:05:18 -!- agentgt has quit [*.net *.split] 15:05:18 -!- OCTOTROG has quit [*.net *.split] 15:05:18 -!- G-Flex has quit [*.net *.split] 15:05:18 -!- Vizer_ has quit [*.net *.split] 15:05:18 -!- varmin has quit [*.net *.split] 15:05:19 -!- Calico has quit [*.net *.split] 15:05:20 -!- Bloax has quit [*.net *.split] 15:05:20 -!- stabwound has quit [*.net *.split] 15:05:20 -!- Quashie_ has quit [*.net *.split] 15:05:21 -!- tali713 has quit [*.net *.split] 15:05:21 -!- dtsund has quit [*.net *.split] 15:05:23 -!- Elsi has quit [*.net *.split] 15:05:24 -!- djanatyn has quit [*.net *.split] 15:05:24 -!- rax_ has quit [*.net *.split] 15:05:24 -!- denstark_ has quit [*.net *.split] 15:05:25 -!- BanquosGhost has quit [*.net *.split] 15:05:26 -!- Rotatell has quit [*.net *.split] 15:05:26 -!- Stathol has quit [*.net *.split] 15:05:27 -!- ChongLi has quit [*.net *.split] 15:05:27 -!- _aardvark has quit [*.net *.split] 15:05:27 -!- oberstein has quit [*.net *.split] 15:05:27 -!- adolchristin has quit [*.net *.split] 15:05:27 -!- rlund_ has quit [*.net *.split] 15:05:29 -!- nonethousand has quit [*.net *.split] 15:05:29 -!- GoblinBomb has quit [*.net *.split] 15:05:30 -!- ldlework has quit [*.net *.split] 15:05:30 -!- Goncyn has quit [*.net *.split] 15:05:31 -!- Eronarn has quit [*.net *.split] 15:05:31 -!- djinni has quit [*.net *.split] 15:05:31 -!- Moredread has quit [*.net *.split] 15:05:33 -!- Sonata has quit [*.net *.split] 15:05:33 -!- jameyd has quit [*.net *.split] 15:05:33 -!- buppy has quit [*.net *.split] 15:05:34 -!- roxton has quit [*.net *.split] 15:05:35 -!- Porost has quit [*.net *.split] 15:05:35 -!- Henzell has quit [*.net *.split] 15:05:36 -!- BlastHardcheese has quit [*.net *.split] 15:05:36 -!- cptwinky has quit [*.net *.split] 15:05:37 -!- AlsoZeor is now known as Zeor 15:05:37 wheals: jiyva eating offlevel items is sort of awkward codewise 15:05:38 and causes stuff like that 15:05:38 You did convey very well how annoying it is though :) 15:05:49 lol 15:05:56 -!- buppy has joined ##crawl-dev 15:05:56 -!- Henzell has joined ##crawl-dev 15:06:05 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 15:06:05 -!- Elsi has joined ##crawl-dev 15:06:05 -!- rax_ has joined ##crawl-dev 15:06:05 -!- Rotatell has joined ##crawl-dev 15:06:16 gammafunk: Guess I'll push a simple fix with null checks then 15:06:18 you also captured problems with those stupid announcements 15:06:22 and with the timers 15:06:28 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 15:06:28 -!- stabwound has joined ##crawl-dev 15:06:29 and with the messages 15:06:35 so probably it was rather fine 15:06:35 -s 15:06:38 -!- BlastHardcheese has joined ##crawl-dev 15:06:38 -!- BlastHardcheese has quit [Changing host] 15:06:38 -!- BlastHardcheese has joined ##crawl-dev 15:07:19 not sure what problems you mean 15:07:35 -!- bitsailor has joined ##crawl-dev 15:07:35 -!- bitsailor has quit [Changing host] 15:07:35 -!- bitsailor has joined ##crawl-dev 15:08:05 -!- rlund_ has joined ##crawl-dev 15:08:05 -!- oberstein has joined ##crawl-dev 15:08:05 -!- nonethousand has joined ##crawl-dev 15:08:05 -!- Eronarn has joined ##crawl-dev 15:08:05 -!- djinni has joined ##crawl-dev 15:08:08 i don't like announced portals going with eternally long timers 15:08:09 Medar: yeah, I can make a patch later to clean up that logic, which is probably giving res_holy to things it shouldn't anyhow 15:08:15 well it shouldn't show the whole message when you go back onto the level probably 15:08:30 and the inconsistent message directions between different kinds of portals are in my opinion a blocker for displaying anything 15:08:35 ChrisOelmueller: are the timers actually eternally long? 15:08:37 but apparently that was not the case, or not considered 15:08:40 elliptic: they are, yes 15:08:53 -!- BlastHardcheese has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 15:09:03 that sounds like a bug 15:09:04 i wouldn't mind them being turned off if you're on the level 15:09:23 since the whole point seems to be not to leave the level and ignore them 15:09:55 if that was the point, why don't they just lock up as soon as you leave it 15:10:02 wheals: well, the messages do give some information (how soon the timer is to ending and how far away the portal is) 15:10:05 would get rid of awkward stuff on top 15:10:20 -!- Crehl__ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:10:28 it's a bit cruel to not let you retreat, that isn't the point either 15:10:33 except the code probably doesn't allow for this to happen while not also adding other awkward things 15:10:53 well who said crawl should be fair :) 15:11:11 ?N 15:11:23 that thing is full of lies anyways 15:11:59 -!- BlastHardcheese has joined ##crawl-dev 15:13:13 03Medar02 07* 0.14-a0-2735-g960dfbf: Fix a crash in is_unchivalric_attack. (gammafunk) 10(7 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=960dfbfcc3df 15:13:37 wow, I didn't know that sewer/bailey/etc still have a second timer for when you enter sight of them 15:13:47 I thought the whole point of adding the messages was to remove that thing 15:14:12 also yes the main timer is far too long 15:14:14 That certainly doesn't sound good. 15:14:29 Portals do seem really hard to miss. 15:14:32 perhaps an additional set of messages for the second timer, 15:14:43 st_: haha 15:14:57 -!- hhkb has joined ##crawl-dev 15:15:02 anyway I think people generally agree that labs/bazaars work fine with only one timer? 15:15:53 that or the second timer could be really shortened 15:16:05 so you have around ten or so turns 15:16:05 One timer seems fine. 15:17:50 second timers that last ten turns means that it's entirely your fault there's a pack of rats blocking the entrance 15:17:52 so one timer for it all is optimal 15:18:01 10 turns is rough: once you see the edge of the vault, you sometimes need to fight through packs of ice beasts or whatever before you can enter 15:19:02 place a big eye over the portal tile to justify second timer 15:20:43 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 15:20:49 -!- Crehl has quit [Client Quit] 15:21:08 but anyway there's no real justification for the second timer 15:21:30 -!- Bloaxor has joined ##crawl-dev 15:24:54 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:26:03 -!- Quashie_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:26:44 -!- bonghitz_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:30:12 -!- djinni_ has joined ##crawl-dev 15:30:38 -!- BigBluFrog has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:30:38 -!- blabber has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:31:11 -!- UnknownUser_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:31:59 -!- Basil has joined ##crawl-dev 15:32:17 -!- elliptic has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:32:37 -!- Lasty has left ##crawl-dev 15:32:44 -!- varmin has joined ##crawl-dev 15:33:01 -!- blabber has joined ##crawl-dev 15:33:50 -!- Stathol has quit [Disconnected by services] 15:35:38 -!- joey_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:35:45 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:36:24 -!- UnknownUser is now known as Guest72038 15:36:59 -!- Bloax has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:36:59 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:39:03 -!- djanatyn has quit [Disconnected by services] 15:39:17 -!- djanatyn1 is now known as djanatyn 15:39:57 -!- nixor has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 15:39:57 -!- stabwound has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:39:58 -!- Calico has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:39:58 -!- _aardvark has quit [*.net *.split] 15:39:58 -!- oberstein has quit [*.net *.split] 15:39:59 -!- adolchristin has quit [*.net *.split] 15:39:59 -!- rlund_ has quit [*.net *.split] 15:40:01 -!- nonethousand has quit [*.net *.split] 15:40:01 -!- GoblinBomb has quit [*.net *.split] 15:40:02 -!- ldlework has quit [*.net *.split] 15:40:03 -!- Goncyn has quit [*.net *.split] 15:40:03 -!- Eronarn has quit [*.net *.split] 15:40:04 -!- djinni has quit [*.net *.split] 15:40:04 -!- Moredread has quit [*.net *.split] 15:40:05 -!- rax__ has joined ##crawl-dev 15:40:06 -!- stabwound has joined ##crawl-dev 15:40:06 -!- UnknownUser has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:40:07 -!- stabwound has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:40:07 -!- stabwound has joined ##crawl-dev 15:40:34 -!- dtsund has quit [*.net *.split] 15:40:35 -!- Elsi has quit [*.net *.split] 15:40:36 -!- rax_ has quit [*.net *.split] 15:40:36 -!- denstark_ has quit [*.net *.split] 15:40:36 -!- BanquosGhost has quit [*.net *.split] 15:40:37 -!- Rotatell has quit [*.net *.split] 15:40:38 -!- ChongLi has quit [*.net *.split] 15:42:02 -!- Rotatell has joined ##crawl-dev 15:42:09 -!- bitsailor has quit [Quit: bitsailor] 15:43:01 rubinko (L27 TeFE) ASSERT(this) in 'actor.h' at line 33 failed. (Pan) 15:44:59 -!- rax has joined ##crawl-dev 15:45:34 -!- Tedronai has quit [Quit: leaving] 15:45:51 rubinko (L27 TeFE) ASSERT(this) in 'actor.h' at line 33 failed. (Pan) 15:46:29 -!- rax__ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:47:03 <|amethyst> that's the crash medar just fixed 15:47:13 <|amethyst> doing a rebuild 15:47:21 -!- stabwound has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:47:22 oh right, thanks 15:47:50 -!- stabwound has joined ##crawl-dev 15:47:55 rubinko (L27 TeFE) ASSERT(this) in 'actor.h' at line 33 failed. (Pan) 15:48:16 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.14-a0-2735-g960dfbf (34) 15:49:54 ??shop 15:49:54 shop[1/3]: A vending machine. Insert coins, receive item. Does not restock. 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Xom thinks this is hilarious. 19:09:07 -!- Ataraxzy has joined ##crawl-dev 19:20:50 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 19:26:57 !lg Bloax MiMo 19:26:57 13. Bloax the Martial Artist (L9 MiMo of Cheibriados), blasted by Erolcha (fireball) on D:8 on 2014-02-21 01:23:24, with 2668 points after 1942 turns and 0:20:26. 19:27:14 where do we put entertaining games 19:28:30 -!- SeianVerian_ is now known as SeianVerian 19:30:27 Learndb has a list 19:30:38 ??Entertaining Games 19:30:38 I don't have a page labeled Entertaining_Games in my learndb. 19:30:42 bah 19:30:42 ??hilarious deaths 19:30:42 hilarious deaths[1/160]: For funny deaths that don't belong in {embarrassing_deaths}. Xom thinks this is hilarious! Also, anyone adding bigterm games to hilarious_deaths should be shot 19:31:45 well it's not really a hilarious death 19:31:50 the buildup is quite entertaining though 19:36:43 has a concensus as to what's happening with LO and Dj happened yet? 19:36:54 -!- F-Glex is now known as G-Flex 19:40:43 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 19:42:34 -!- eb_ is now known as ebarrett 19:44:30 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Saindo] 19:45:57 -!- angry_point has quit [Read error: No route to host] 19:48:28 ? 19:48:30 -!- Lightli has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:57:27 -!- fiddlerw1aroof is now known as fiddlerwoaroof 20:02:42 -!- mong has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:06:14 !source dat/des/altar/lugonu_bribe.des 20:06:14 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/dat/des/altar/lugonu_bribe.des;hb=HEAD 20:06:26 there seems to be some kind of god missing here 20:07:17 hm? 20:07:25 oh 20:07:35 dithered 20:07:36 lamp of fire / book of Fire / ... 20:08:13 rod of fiery destruction 20:08:22 Hellfire 20:09:08 <|amethyst> alternatively, a book with blink, battlesphere, and spectral weapon 20:09:14 <|amethyst> for the other end of Lugonu's bribes 20:09:20 i like the jiyva one 20:10:28 oka's stuff doesn't make sense anymore 20:10:38 lucy needs to offer animal skins 20:10:51 book with enslave 20:11:02 He only cares about betrayal now 20:11:04 I think 20:11:14 ??oka 20:11:14 okawaru[1/5]: Heroism (*) temporarily gives +5 to all non-magic skills except Invocations and Evocations, although Fighting skill from it gives no extra HP. Finesse (*****) halves attack delay but does not stack with haste or berserk and is blocked by stasis. Also gifts weapons and armour, and ammo if you have a ranged skill >= 8. 20:11:33 who uses enslave without the betrayal! 20:11:52 fire giant (05C) | Spd: 10 | HD: 16 | HP: 73-120 | AC/EV: 8/4 | Dam: 30 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, fighter, spellcaster, see invisible | Res: 06magic(85), 05fire++, 12drown | Chunks: 07contam | XP: 1818 | Sp: b.fire (3d25), fireball (3d26) | Sz: Giant | Int: normal. 20:11:52 %??fire giant 20:12:27 tengu reaver (13H) | Spd: 10 (move: 90%) | HD: 17 | HP: 66-102 | AC/EV: 2/17 | Dam: 27, 11, 11 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, fighter, spellcaster, see invisible, lev | Res: 06magic(68) | XP: 2067 | Sp: b.lightning (3d22), battlesphere, freezing cloud (2d27) / b.magma (3d26), battlesphere, fireball (3d27) / b.venom (3d21), battlesphere, poisonous cloud (3d11) | Sz: Medium | Int: high. 20:12:27 %??tengu reaver 20:12:38 scroll of immolation for beogh is old too 20:12:50 surely it'd still be dangerous 20:13:03 fear is definitely old though 20:13:38 clearly make it a book with OTR, Ozo's, and Shatter 20:14:03 corpse rot 20:21:26 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:26:10 there should be a way of showing that the options at the bottom of the character selection screen are selected 20:26:28 before a commit today i did not know they could be 20:27:57 you mean printing the keys in not the same color as the explanatory text? 20:28:14 -!- Wahaha has joined ##crawl-dev 20:28:52 i mean changing the background colour of a selected one, the way it is done with other selections on the screen 20:34:08 -!- Zermako has quit [Quit: good night and good luck to all! :D] 20:37:40 Unlinked temporary item: amulet of resist mutation 20:37:55 what do messages like this indicate? 20:43:02 -!- st_ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 20:46:01 a bug you should report 20:46:17 -!- Basil has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:47:00 -!- Basil has joined ##crawl-dev 20:47:43 -!- Piginabag has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:48:58 -!- WaveMotion has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:54:50 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 20:55:54 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:55:55 -!- Fhqwhgads__ is now known as Fhqwhgads_ 20:59:44 -!- MaxFrosty has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:02:05 -!- jday_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:07:35 -!- SenoraRaton has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:18:32 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 21:19:49 -!- sicklyorphanyolo has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:20:26 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:20:57 -!- Blazinghand|Work has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:23:25 03elliptic02 07* 0.14-a0-2736-ge0f3951: Remove a vault. 10(12 minutes ago, 1 file, 0+ 24-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=e0f3951b2950 21:24:00 o_O 21:24:05 * Grunt goes to see who admitted that vault. 21:25:02 ... 21:26:37 Who was it 21:26:47 Take a wild guess <_< 21:26:47 %git 78389bb46 21:26:48 07kilobyte02 * 0.14-a0-1514-g78389bb: A bunch of vaults by kennysheep. 10(10 weeks ago, 3 files, 134+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=78389bb46f31 21:26:59 wheals: wrong vault 21:27:14 oops 21:27:18 %git ecdd57c50 21:27:18 07Grunt02 * 0.13-a0-3102-gecdd57c: nicolae's "handful of vaults" (#7478). 10(5 months ago, 11 files, 800+ 11-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=ecdd57c506b8 21:27:24 >_> 21:27:30 oh jeez 21:27:39 that one also has hidden_temple 21:27:45 you bastard! 21:27:52 Oh also 21:28:08 !vault nicolae_hidd 21:28:08 Couldn't find nicolae_hidd in the Crawl source tree 21:28:15 !vault hidden_temp 21:28:16 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/dat/des/altar/overflow.des;hb=HEAD#l2853 21:28:33 That is sort of a lame vault 21:29:28 not sure what it's supposed to do other than make new players ask where their favorite god is 21:29:30 also does anyone mind if I make the walls in sword_in_stone rock 21:29:38 I can rename it to sword_in_rock too if that helps :P 21:29:55 and randomly catching others who don't count the number of staircases on each level 21:30:11 buff to big 21:30:16 Basil: well, it isn't the only altar vault that requires checking staircases 21:30:26 There's another 21:30:34 that places the temple in view of transparent stone 21:30:42 that's less offensive 21:31:05 no, I mean there is another overflow vault that you get to via stairs 21:31:28 Any idea what it's called? 21:32:07 -!- tenofswords has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:32:36 hm, or maybe it isn't actually overflow? 21:33:08 It is an overflow vault. 21:33:11 Let me go find it. 21:33:21 I don't think it is in overflow.des at least 21:33:55 !vault nicolae_overflow_hidden_temple 21:33:55 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/dat/des/altar/overflow.des;hb=HEAD#l2853 21:34:26 -!- sstrickl has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:34:33 that's the one we're talking about. 21:34:42 -!- tenofswords has joined ##crawl-dev 21:34:46 -!- sstrickl has quit [Changing host] 21:34:46 Grunt: I mean a second one (an older one) 21:34:51 with a single altar 21:34:58 Maybe it was removed 21:34:59 mm 21:35:08 !vault lemuel_upstairs_altar 21:35:08 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/dat/des/altar/altar.des;hb=HEAD#l191 21:35:14 Yeah, that one. 21:35:14 tisk, tisk, tisk 21:35:16 I remember reading something about rewarding a random ?mmap with a random altar being silly 21:35:18 Just found it. 21:35:36 hmm 21:35:44 and you had a head-start since I just had a brief power shortage! 21:35:48 And there's one other upstairs vault with a few staves 21:35:53 including an enhancer 21:36:03 !vault firewood_loft 21:36:03 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/dat/des/variable/float.des;hb=HEAD#l94 21:36:07 mmm 21:36:07 (that one I know off the top of my head) 21:36:08 tenofswords: yeah, that one... I guess not an overflow then 21:36:13 So 21:36:21 ("altar.des" is a really stupid name for "generic non-overflow or non-temple gods") 21:36:27 Maybe they should be removed? 21:36:31 dunno 21:36:43 (sort of hard to tell whether an altar vault on D:2-9 is an overflow vault in-game) 21:37:13 clearly I will put in special floor tiles for the non-overflow altar vaults and 21:37:45 * Grunt remembers briefly considering how to turn jmf_multi_god_temple_* into overflow vaults <_< 21:38:05 anyway in general I don't really like the upstairs vaults, but that isn't specific to altar vaults 21:38:18 I wouldn't mind removing them all but I know there are quite a few 21:38:19 "through murder" 21:38:30 mmm 21:38:38 I keep seeing firewood_loft on the ascent 21:38:49 really? i can't think of many besides those three we saw 21:38:53 upstairs vaults as in bubbles only accessible from a staircase from the previous floor? 21:39:05 also, I didn't hear any objections to rockifying sword_in_stone, so... 21:39:29 tenofswords: really I mean anything that requires stairs to access (in either direction) 21:39:43 man, I like that sort of thing 21:39:49 fr: great_item good sword 21:39:53 not counting stuff like tomb:1 of course :P 21:40:06 surely not counting hells vaults too right 21:40:11 elliptic: so everything after d:1 you mean? 21:40:18 there are hells vaults like that? 21:40:28 wheals: well, I mean specific stairs :P 21:40:31 well, they have both an upstair and downstair 21:40:31 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 21:40:38 also, orc in general 21:40:47 maybe stuff with both an upstair and downstair is okay 21:40:49 but that's like tomb 21:40:52 a special case 21:40:53 !vault generic_boss_arena 21:40:54 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/dat/des/branches/geh.des;hb=HEAD#l105 21:40:55 I have to admit I like elevators, for instance 21:41:07 (sorry for the unreadable substs there) 21:41:10 but the other stuff confuses people and I don't think it adds much 21:41:15 you like elevators since they let you skip floors!! 21:41:25 there's a reason why elevators have glass too 21:42:38 !vault minmay_nested_s 21:42:38 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/dat/des/variable/large_abstract.des;hb=HEAD#l822 21:43:15 oh i got that last game 21:43:18 "both an upstair and a downstair" :P 21:43:23 didn't think about it for some reason 21:43:59 !vault arrow_trap 21:43:59 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/dat/des/variable/float.des;hb=HEAD#l3543 21:44:06 !vault opposites_gauntlet 21:44:06 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/dat/des/variable/float.des;hb=HEAD#l2252 21:44:37 hm, there are actually a lot 21:44:39 possible setting for _zot_spectrum but who cares 21:44:43 the champion one too right? 21:44:57 and even some in D 21:45:01 also correct 21:45:46 it's all stuff that I kind of like having "sectioned-off", but most of them could just use elevator-like-settings? 21:46:22 on my list it goes, at any rate 21:48:34 -!- Ququman has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:48:53 03elliptic02 07* 0.14-a0-2737-gb10a4c8: Change the walls in sword_in_stone to transparent rock. 10(22 minutes ago, 1 file, 3+ 4-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=b10a4c8224dc 21:53:05 but there's still stone for the quad damage 21:53:09 so all is right in the world 21:59:49 -!- tenofswords has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:02:55 elliptic: wow, you could actually ctele in there with some chance of success? 22:03:05 gammafunk: sure, 1/9 22:03:09 if only Spectrina had known that... 22:03:12 (that is the chance of having 0 fuzz) 22:03:17 ?/Spectrina 22:03:18 Matching entries (2): epic_bugs[10]: !lg spectrina 750 -tv:$ | sword_in_stone[2]: !lg spectrina cebe 4 -tv:T51200:x4 22:03:32 she lured a deep troll earth mage up to it on d:8 or something 22:03:39 yeah, people in ##crawl just showed me that 22:03:44 it worked pretty well 22:04:00 she wasn't super happy with the plut sword in the end though :p 22:04:05 another good reason to not place loot behind stone 22:06:06 ??sword_in_stone 22:06:06 sword in stone[1/2]: That one vault guarded by nasty humanoids, possibly with some uniques. It has a strong sword inside transparent wall. Oh, and be warned that said sword is on a teleport trap, so if you want to get it you need LRD or shatter to break the walls and an amulet of stasis or apportation. Or just use cTele. Have fun! 22:07:50 except you know 22:07:58 ctele only lets you teleport in there 22:08:02 should phoenix simulacra generate 22:08:09 in some random place in an ice cave 22:08:11 should phoenixes 22:08:12 due to the fact that it was changed to do that 22:08:29 Bloaxor: actually, it does let you cancel the 'port from the trap 22:08:44 The phoenix simulacrum revives in a column of ice! 22:08:44 after ctele'ing in there? 22:09:38 -!- rossi has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.3] 22:10:02 -!- Ruble has quit [] 22:10:57 -!- ShadeTornado has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:11:17 -!- Calico_ has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 22:11:44 -!- tenofswords has joined ##crawl-dev 22:11:48 -!- Lightli has joined ##crawl-dev 22:12:46 phoenix simulacra are my fault and while I am fond of "the joke" it isn't too great in general 22:13:21 phoenixes themselves need some heavy changes but whatever 22:13:30 i would fix it by removing phoenixes yes 22:14:01 * tenofswords sobs for the end results of holyhaul 22:14:15 -!- mamgar has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:14:49 yeah i don't really think holy pan should still be a thing really 22:14:54 until holyhaul the second or something 22:15:38 well, it's not too distant a dream 22:16:26 first i've heard of it 22:16:42 What will be hauled? 22:16:48 (keels?) 22:17:33 shorten ophan cloud duration and give actual hd, make apis weakness apply on hitting it so that the fact it's a very strong melee thing itself means something, uh, 22:18:16 I feel like holypan needs more than minor tweaks 22:18:19 https://crawl.develz.org/wiki/doku.php?id=dcss:brainstorm:monster:concept:holy 22:18:22 "remove silver stars" 22:18:23 Grunt: Do wargoyles come with shields? 22:18:33 that would be holyhaul 1.0 i suppose 22:18:37 war gargoyle (109) | Spd: 14 | HD: 13 | HP: 36-68 | AC/EV: 22/4 | Dam: 30 | 11non-living, 10items, 10doors, fighter, see invisible, fly, !sil | Res: 06magic(104), 05fire, 02cold, 10elec, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | XP: 1453 | Sp: metal splinters (3d27) | Sz: Medium | Int: high. 22:18:37 %??War gargoyle 22:18:42 MarvinPA: that's one thing it needs, yes 22:18:44 war gargoyles do not 22:19:20 Big weapons? 22:19:36 or do they carry low-tier trash like maces and flails 22:20:37 * tenofswords mumbles about basic searches of the code 22:21:30 -!- Basil has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:21:38 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:21:48 item.sub_type = random_choose_weighted(10, WPN_MORNINGSTAR, 10, WPN_FLAIL, 5, WPN_DIRE_FLAIL, 5, WPN_GREAT_MACE,1, WPN_LAJATANG, 0); 22:22:34 righto 22:23:36 -!- Basil has joined ##crawl-dev 22:23:44 surely most of the bad holies cpuld just actually do good melee damage but too many of them have finnicky methods of annoyance instead oc lethality, so 22:24:09 holy pan seems "cute" 22:24:24 it'd fit very well in another game 22:27:01 angel, daeva, cherub, pearl dragon, non-dumb ophan, less bad apis, maybe enough for a portal vault or fake portal of a small encompass vault instead of a stretched out full segmented floor? 22:27:33 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 22:28:42 * tenofswords shrugs, yet another todo for the future 22:29:22 Better ring swapping. by Sage 22:30:18 i would really like to remove behaviour like that instead of adding more of it 22:30:43 or at least have some kind of option for slightly consistent interface behaviour 22:32:36 how about unifying all four of WRTP 22:32:39 efficient_swapping = yes 22:35:00 Px> should put ring x on your right hand, not "sometimes put ring x on your right hand and sometimes put ring x on your left hand and then go downstairs" imo 22:35:22 yeah 22:36:05 crawl is really bad about this in a whole ton of places though and fixing it is way at the bottom of my to-do, ho hum 22:36:37 So 22:36:47 ...so how do you handle octopodes in that case <_< 22:36:56 -!- DrinkMachine has joined ##crawl-dev 22:37:04 efficient_swapping = yes --> Turn on my thing and autoswap when wearing two identical rings 22:37:10 would that be sufficient? 22:37:51 octopode ring handling is kinda awful 22:39:04 if you.race() == op efficient_swapping = true else efficient_swapping = false 22:39:05 -!- Watball has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:39:07 or however it looks 22:40:14 splitting this and the other ring things (there's also inconsistent behaviour when curses are involved) out into an option would be a good start i guess, yeah 22:40:38 -!- conted has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:42:13 ??ais523 22:42:13 ais523[1/1]: it's amazing how inconsistent Crawl's interface actually is, it's much worse than NetHack's 22:42:32 iirc this stuff is what that entry refers to (and how it's easier to teach a bot to use nethack's interface or something) 22:43:46 it's inconsistent at the expense of helping you out, which will be useful for some and screw others 22:43:48 ??xw[2] 22:43:48 xw[2/2]: ah, xw is trying to eat a wand of disintegration 22:43:53 nethack's is consistently bad 22:44:04 all of qw's item usage begins with moving the relevant items to slots with letters that do nothing 22:44:13 to avoid most of this sort of thing 22:45:07 heh, nice 22:45:13 -!- Yermak has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:45:34 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:50:25 Bloaxor: are you making a tile for The Unspeakable; what you did with the Meatlord gave me nightmares... 22:50:51 %git HEAD^{/UNSPEAKABLE} 22:50:51 07ontoclasm02 * 0.14-a0-2478-g0955808: MEATLORD was actually THE UNSPEAKABLE 10(12 days ago, 4 files, 3+ 3-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=095580861b96 22:51:11 The meatlord is out of my scope. 22:51:18 blood and souls 22:51:24 BLOOD AND SOULS 22:51:24 I think I'll have to use the shadow trick. 22:51:38 /nick Makhleb 22:52:21 That tile actually made a lot of sense as the meatlord 22:52:47 although maybe it doesn't match the description 22:52:47 ??meatlord 22:52:47 I don't have a page labeled meatlord in my learndb. 22:52:50 ?/meatlord 22:52:50 No matches. 22:53:10 The Unspeakable (16J) | Spd: 15 | HD: 100 | HP: 10000 | AC/EV: 1/4 | Dam: 22 | amphibious, evil, regen, !sil, 07vault | Res: 06magic(400), 03poison, asphyx, 12drown | Vul: 08holy | XP: 15000 | Sp: shadow creatures, airstrike (0-210), smiting (7-17), 04esc:death's door | Sz: small | Int: plant. 22:53:10 %??the unspeakable 22:53:18 !smite Sequell 22:53:19 gammafunk gestures. Something smites Sequell! 22:53:24 does anyone understand the dark deoths of eronarn's imagination 22:53:29 (the answer is no) 22:53:34 wheals: Eronarn might!! 22:53:41 oh, he made meatsprint? didn't realize 22:53:41 i doubt it 22:53:49 gammafunk: st made meatsprint 22:53:49 he made meat arena too! 22:53:53 wait what 22:53:59 The meatlord description is a huge bloat boarman. 22:54:06 The turgid, blood-quenched depravities locked within Eronarn's meatsphere 22:54:17 !source meat.des 22:54:18 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/meat.des;hb=HEAD 22:54:21 er 22:54:24 i thought meatsprint was eronarn's idea 22:54:25 !source dat/des/sprint/meat.des 22:54:25 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/dat/des/sprint/meat.des;hb=HEAD 22:54:27 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/63152810/n/crawl/666.png while this is just horrorshow 22:54:29 Look at the very first line. 22:56:07 why did i connect it with eronarn 22:56:12 am i going insane 22:57:25 -!- tkappleton2 is now known as tkappleton 22:57:42 -!- ToastyP has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 27.0.1/20140212131424]] 22:58:04 Bloaxor: I should ask you to make the octopode crusher tile, but I should finish that first 22:58:10 have to fix the invis thing before that 22:59:27 there was a standalone meat arena thing by eronarn well before meatsprint, though aside from some names nearly nothing is really shared 22:59:53 I know it was the source for meat hydra, at least 23:00:17 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/63152810/n/crawl/Termigargoyle.png 23:00:21 you could have prevented this 23:00:43 clearly the best way to enjoy meatsprint is with hexcrawl >.> 23:01:05 yeah no 23:03:41 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 23:07:34 -!- buppy has joined ##crawl-dev 23:15:06 -!- jbud has quit [Quit: leaving] 23:19:05 -!- ebarrett has quit [] 23:23:41 -!- Yermak_ is now known as Yermak 23:25:51 -!- Ataraxzy has quit [Quit: http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere.] 23:26:28 -!- Quashie_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:28:28 -!- frostsno1 is now known as frostsnow 23:33:17 Unstable branch on crawl.lantea.net updated to: 0.14-a0-2737-gb10a4c8 (34) 23:35:35 -!- sirtheta has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 23:36:57 -!- jeffro_ has joined ##crawl-dev 23:39:15 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:39:59 -!- jeffro has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:41:00 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:43:05 -!- jeffro_ is now known as jeffro 23:43:05 -!- jeffro has quit [Changing host] 23:43:06 -!- jeffro has joined ##crawl-dev 23:48:07 has a plan for what's happening with LO and Dj come out yet 23:49:13 -!- Escalator_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 23:50:24 didn't we tell you already that they aren't going to be in 0.14 23:50:35 that's the plan 23:50:44 I meant for trunk 23:52:39 -!- N78291 has quit [Quit: null] 23:55:27 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:56:03 -!- Mattias has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 23:58:43 -!- Krakhan has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds]