00:01:36 -!- Boyo has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:04:06 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 00:04:08 -!- soundlust has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 00:06:08 Unstable branch on rl.heh.fi updated to: 0.14-a0-2691-g997c442 (34) 00:06:27 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.14-a0-2691-g997c442 (34) 00:09:37 -!- Keanan has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 00:13:54 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Saindo] 00:16:29 -!- jeanjacques has joined ##crawl-dev 00:17:15 -!- bmfx has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 00:18:44 -!- schistosomatic has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:20:38 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 00:21:04 In any case, don't delay merging on my account. This seems a non-critical enough adjustment that it's fine to hit master without it. 00:21:18 Though I will likely tinker with it before too long 00:22:42 righto, i might push it in a bit then 00:29:23 -!- Kasofa has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 00:30:37 -!- mong has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:37:14 -!- bmfx has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 00:46:51 -!- AlphaQ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:48:05 -!- gnum has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:49:07 -!- Krakhan has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:55:14 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 00:58:02 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 00:58:43 -!- Insomniak has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:02:52 -!- minqmay has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:02:53 -!- minmay has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:12:07 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 01:12:46 -!- honeybadger has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:14:06 -!- rast- has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:20:56 -!- Basil has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:21:44 -!- Basil has joined ##crawl-dev 01:29:49 -!- Superterranean has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 01:34:12 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 01:45:47 push what? 01:45:49 the removal of Dj? 01:47:02 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:53:33 03N7829102 {MarvinPA} 07* 0.14-a0-2550-g3fcccda: New spell: Summon Forest (L5 Summ/Tloc) 10(11 days ago, 12 files, 81+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=3fcccda608e7 01:53:33 03N7829102 {MarvinPA} 07* 0.14-a0-2551-g8caa7c3: New spell: Summon Lightning Spire (L4 Summ/Air) 10(10 days ago, 9 files, 78+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=8caa7c39debb 01:53:33 03N7829102 {MarvinPA} 07* 0.14-a0-2552-gf995b71: New spell: Summon Guardian Golem (L4 Summ/Hex) 10(10 days ago, 11 files, 81+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=f995b71d0459 01:53:33 03N7829102 {MarvinPA} 07* 0.14-a0-2553-g7517bb3: Tweak some of the new spells. 10(9 days ago, 2 files, 3+ 3-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=7517bb3cc075 01:53:33 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.14-a0-2554-g4fb3771: Remove Summon Scorpions 10(8 days ago, 22 files, 15+ 89-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=4fb377143d7b 01:53:33 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.14-a0-2555-g58eacce: Don't target Summon Lightning Spire on monsters 10(6 days ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=58eacce2df58 01:53:33 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.14-a0-2556-g48ad398: Add Summon Forest to the book of Callings (for testing purposes) 10(6 days ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=48ad3987cb9c 01:53:33 03DracoOmega02 07* 0.14-a0-2557-gfe507cf: Automatically apply injury bond from guardian golems 10(5 days ago, 6 files, 30+ 16-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=fe507cf78ae0 01:53:33 03DracoOmega02 07* 0.14-a0-2558-gacd4404: Properly expire injury bond from friendly sources 10(5 days ago, 1 file, 4+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=acd4404d4162 01:53:33 03DracoOmega02 07* 0.14-a0-2559-g74a6667: Improve guardian golem defenses, scale hp with spell power 10(5 days ago, 3 files, 10+ 7-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=74a666722cce 01:53:33 ... and 13 more commits 01:53:35 Improper Entry to Shoals by LordSloth 01:53:35 -!- Keanan has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 01:55:04 -!- lion has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:59:11 -!- SkaryMonk1 has joined ##crawl-dev 02:00:38 -!- Thurston has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:02:03 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:13:07 -!- Zeor has quit [Quit: curse elbow] 02:14:59 oh 02:15:14 rip scorpions 02:15:16 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 02:17:10 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.14-a0-2714-g4052a83 (34) 02:18:17 MarvinPA: did you mean to keep forest in callings in trnk 02:18:20 u 02:18:40 it's not, is it? i think the revert commit just got cut off 02:18:54 %git HEAD^ 02:18:54 07MarvinPA02 * 0.14-a0-2713-gda3d5e1: Revert "Add Summon Forest to the book of Callings (for testing purposes)" 10(3 hours ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=da3d5e17ad26 02:18:56 oh i didnt really look at the commits other than what Cheibriados spat out in here 02:19:03 oh right, 13 more commits 02:19:03 ok 02:20:01 -!- SkaryMonk2 has joined ##crawl-dev 02:21:54 -!- SkaryMonk1 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 02:25:58 -!- Basil has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:26:27 -!- Basil has joined ##crawl-dev 02:36:14 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 02:51:23 -!- Sorbius has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 02:51:51 -!- nixor has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 03:01:56 -!- Voker57 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 03:03:14 -!- gbeeneAFK has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 03:06:51 -!- gammafunk has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 03:07:49 -!- Basil has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 03:09:07 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:09:22 -!- Basil has joined ##crawl-dev 03:10:26 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:14:02 -!- rast- has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:23:16 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 03:25:03 -!- Nethris has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 03:27:51 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 03:29:38 -!- radinms has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 03:37:55 -!- simmarine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:40:49 -!- eith has joined ##crawl-dev 03:45:05 -!- eith|3 has joined ##crawl-dev 03:46:59 -!- eith has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:50:30 -!- Ragnor has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 03:54:13 -!- Crehl has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 03:56:32 BONGHITZ (L9 DsFE) ASSERT(!in_bounds(you.pos()) || !cell_is_solid(you.pos()) || you.wizmode_teleported_into_rock) in 'main.cc' at line 4402 failed. 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BONGHITZ, XL9 DsFE, T:8622 (milestone): http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/BONGHITZ/crash-BONGHITZ-20140218-095630.txt 08:38:01 oh, he ended up inside a grate 08:41:22 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 08:42:43 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:43:58 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:50:10 -!- athros has quit [Client Quit] 08:51:03 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 08:57:16 -!- Pacra___ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 08:57:36 -!- BobBarker has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:07:05 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 09:15:41 -!- rast- has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:18:55 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 09:21:53 -!- Joey_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 09:21:54 -!- herself has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 09:23:27 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 09:31:40 -!- Crehl has quit [Quit: qqqqqqq] 09:34:59 -!- Vizer has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 09:40:27 -!- honeybadger has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:42:52 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 09:44:23 -!- wheals has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:45:19 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 09:49:10 -!- magicpoints has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 09:53:26 -!- ainsophyao has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:54:06 -!- Elynae has quit [Client Quit] 09:54:08 -!- ystael has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 09:58:26 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 10:02:43 -!- SkaryMonk1 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 10:10:27 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 10:14:04 -!- dck has joined ##crawl-dev 10:18:12 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 10:28:33 -!- Yuof has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:30:38 -!- fearitself has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:30:50 !tell dck dck 10:30:50 Grunt: OK, I'll let dck know. 10:31:53 * dck mumbles some strange words. dck flickers and vanishes. 10:32:08 * Grunt gestures. dck is outlined in light. 10:32:39 Dang's wrath finds Grunt! 10:32:39 dck: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 10:32:51 Nothing seems to happen. 10:33:50 -!- TAS_2012v has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 10:34:16 -!- sstrickl has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:36:35 -!- blabber has joined ##crawl-dev 10:37:00 " a plant-like parasite on a humanoid host who regenerates quickly, cannot heal through wands or potions, and possess an innate spirit shield effect and an anti-magic bite." 10:37:03 good grunt 10:37:10 concise grunt 10:38:09 -!- Mandevil has quit [Quit: leaving] 10:39:40 Grunt writes some strange words. A vine stalker appears! 10:40:10 Or maybe s/Grunt/Basil/ <_< 10:41:03 -!- alefury has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Iceweasel 26.0/20131215102647]] 10:41:33 * Bloax reads a scroll. 10:41:46 * Bloax What monster do you want to genocide? 10:42:00 * Bloax Djinni 10:42:06 * Bloax Sent in some Djinni 10:42:28 oh wait WRONG GAME SHIT SORRY 10:42:38 -!- ldf has joined ##crawl-dev 10:43:21 ??dj 10:43:22 djinn[1/4]: Player species with hellfire (total fire) immunity, rN+++, rC-, high fire aptitude, and a single weird pool (essence) from which they draw both mana and health. 1 MP costs two essence. They have no hunger bar, but pay hunger costs through glow, which only gives them weird temporary mutations. !!Djinn is plural, djinni is singular!! 10:47:11 -!- scummos| has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:47:55 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 10:55:37 !smite gammafunk 10:55:37 gammafunk gestures. Something smites gammafunk! 10:56:10 killed by bad targeting 10:56:23 !lg . ktype=targeting 10:56:24 No games for gammafunk (ktype=targeting). 10:56:29 !lg . s=ktype 10:56:30 1206 games for gammafunk: 559x mon, 295x quitting, 243x beam, 58x pois, 14x winning, 9x trap, 7x disintegration, 6x wild magic, 4x xom, 2x cloud, 2x acid, 2x starvation, burning, lava, stupidity, spore, targetting 10:56:35 !lg . ktype=targetting 10:56:38 1. gammafunk the Sneak (L2 HEIE), killed themself with bad targetting on D:2 on 2014-02-08 04:42:50, with 50 points after 531 turns and 0:06:26. 10:56:49 !lg . ktype=targetting 10:56:50 No games for dck (ktype=targetting). 10:57:07 !singularity gammafunk 10:57:08 dck mumbles some strange words. The singularity violently warps gammafunk! 10:57:08 MarvinPA, so I'm looking at what we have left in terms of multi-spell rods and I have ideas for what to do with two of the four. 10:57:45 ...namely, destruction -> the "rod of bolts" version (it should still be called destruction though) and frigid destruction -> the old "rod of clouds" idea, leaving demonology (which could just go away, I guess) and venom. 10:58:09 ??rod_of_demonology 10:58:10 rod of demonology[1/1]: A {rod} with Abjuration, Call Imp, and Summon Demon. (Good gods don't mind if you use abjuration from this rod, even though the rod is purple in your inventory.) 10:58:41 An item that could summon a greater demon could be neat with the right tradeoffs 10:58:57 I guess it's kind of hard to do in a balanced way 10:59:16 If you want your greater demons, go Makhleb <_< 10:59:38 makh lorocyprocas when 10:59:47 !send Grunt a deep elf demonologist 10:59:48 Sending a deep elf demonologist to Grunt. 10:59:57 !send gammafunk a DEMOLITIONOLOGIST 10:59:58 Sending a DEMOLITIONOLOGIST to gammafunk. 11:00:22 hold on, I have to get meph ONLINE, since I'm rolling a CASTER 11:04:55 Grunt: removing warding i hope? 11:05:01 no, he isn;t 11:05:01 %git HEAD^{/warding} 11:05:04 07MarvinPA02 * 0.14-a0-2692-ga726785: Remove the rod of warding 10(12 hours ago, 19 files, 28+ 46-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=a726785d79ff 11:05:04 since MarvinPA did 11:05:08 *I'm* not removing it <_< 11:05:08 ah he did 11:05:10 good 11:05:23 That's the reason I'm bringing this up to begin with. 11:05:34 rod of clouds i'm not sure about 11:05:41 because cloud spells on rods are, well 11:06:09 hm, no evocable source of abjuration now? (besides Crusade card) 11:06:10 The one I'm thinking of didn't have smite-targeted clouds; it behaved differently. 11:06:30 I guess it's just "kill the summoner" 11:06:33 isn't it in some branch or am i confusing things 11:06:36 evoke TAB 11:06:46 ?/firestorm is the 11:06:46 Matching entries (1): abjuration[3]: firestorm is the new mass abjuration 11:06:47 %git rod_rework^ 11:06:48 07Grunt02 * 0.13-a0-1359-g59d031e: Rod of clouds. 10(9 months ago, 13 files, 138+ 4-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=59d031eb26c9 11:06:48 %git rod_rework 11:06:48 07Grunt02 * 0.13-a0-1360-g0a6f3db: Experimental cloud types for the rod of clouds. 10(9 months ago, 3 files, 133+ 13-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=0a6f3db3d5ff 11:06:54 yup, that one 11:06:54 There it is. 11:07:01 (also wow, what the hell was I thinking when I wrote some of this code) 11:07:17 %git :/crank 11:07:20 07mumra02 * 0.13-a0-1733-gbb46447: Make rods crankable from inventory 10(8 months ago, 7 files, 37+ 85-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=bb46447e9014 11:07:21 wow 11:07:33 i thought of rod of bolts without ever seeing this, huh 11:08:36 + cloud = one_chance_in(3) ? CLOUD_GHOSTLY_FLAME : 11:08:36 + coinflip() ? CLOUD_MUTAGENIC 11:08:37 + : CLOUD_CHAOS; 11:08:41 not exactly the ideal way :P 11:10:01 Yeah, that's one of the things I'm wondering abot :b 11:10:04 *about 11:12:26 random_arcane_weighted() 11:12:56 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.14-a0-2718-g5f19977 (34) 11:13:50 Also if this type of targeting is a good idea it would need a targeter, which this doesn't have. 11:16:01 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 11:16:01 -!- rast- has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:16:26 -!- MistGuided has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:20:00 Oh, I remember storm clouds sounded pretty fun. 11:20:18 Except because at some point vault makers would lay their hands on them. 11:20:36 mm 11:20:37 Fortunately the worst abuser of clouds in vaults isn't around any more!! 11:20:48 ??vault guide 11:20:48 I don't have a page labeled vault_guide in my learndb. 11:21:56 Don't let Enslave Soul wate mp/turns/piety/hunger. by wheals 11:22:16 wheals: good you.pos() case 11:22:31 i copied it from imprison 11:22:41 blame whoever programmed that 11:22:49 I mean the message <3 11:22:56 oh, yes 11:23:03 hehe 11:29:59 -!- athros has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:30:25 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 11:32:08 -!- alefury has joined ##crawl-dev 11:49:23 -!- minmay has joined ##crawl-dev 11:52:47 -!- ToBeFree is now known as TomRiddle 11:52:52 -!- TomRiddle is now known as ToBeFree 11:55:35 -!- jeanjacques has quit [Quit: quit] 12:08:42 -!- Blazinghand|Work has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:12:58 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 12:19:37 -!- joey_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:23:50 -!- Vizer_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:35:44 -!- blabber has quit [Read error: No route to host] 12:39:26 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:40:52 -!- DracoOmega has joined ##crawl-dev 12:41:33 -!- Foamed_ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 12:43:05 03DracoOmega02 07* 0.14-a0-2719-g97ceb79: Don't open malign gateways on the other side of glass 10(71 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=97ceb79f85d8 12:43:05 03DracoOmega02 07* 0.14-a0-2720-gad7cece: Prompt when equipping a known -TELE item while currently teleporting 10(36 minutes ago, 1 file, 26+ 9-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=ad7cece1c59d 12:43:05 03DracoOmega02 07* 0.14-a0-2721-g4592d88: Properly expire siren song when off-level 10(19 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=4592d88de271 12:43:07 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 12:45:13 -!- Kasofa has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:48:43 -!- gammafunk has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:51:14 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 12:57:26 -!- Basil has joined ##crawl-dev 12:57:43 -!- fearitself has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:59:48 -!- edhmaster has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:00:10 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 13:10:38 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 13:16:11 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:20:01 -!- xnavy has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:24:56 -!- Deep has quit [Client Quit] 13:33:37 * Grunt ponders the fate of the Enchantress - would it be plausible to have her turn up as a normal Depths unique? 13:36:03 -!- fearitself has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:41:04 -!- exant has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:41:54 -!- eith has joined ##crawl-dev 13:43:33 -!- Grujah has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:53:14 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 13:54:42 -!- ToastyP has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:54:59 -!- gammafunk has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:55:29 -!- jmbto has joined ##crawl-dev 13:57:57 -!- herself has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 14:07:21 -!- angry_point has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:08:41 -!- Nerem has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 14:09:36 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 14:14:29 -!- gnum has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 14:14:57 -!- j_ has joined ##crawl-dev 14:16:50 -!- nixor has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 14:16:55 -!- Crehl has quit [Quit: qqqqqqq] 14:17:39 -!- herself has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:18:02 yo everyone! So I was playing the tutorial, and I got to the necromancy part. And I wanted to know the chance of hitting my own units when firing through them. 14:22:21 -!- OCTOTROG has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:22:28 -!- CampinSam has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.2] 14:23:31 -!- scummos__ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:25:06 ??ranged 14:25:06 ranged combat[1/4]: Nobody understands ranged combat. 14:26:54 j_: I'd guess it's supposed to be so high you don't. 14:27:02 Fire through them, that is. 14:27:30 j_: I'd recommend asking general gameplay questions in ##crawl, but yeah the idea is you don't want to do that unless it's a spell that doesn't affect them 14:28:06 -!- scummos__ has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 14:28:07 j_: If you have any other comments about the tutorial, I'd be glad to hear them! 14:28:07 Bolt of draining won't affects your necromancy friends, so that's good to use behind them, but not anything else; you need a clear shot 14:29:21 Salamander Simulacra swim through lava by rubinko 14:30:47 nice bug 14:30:58 -!- BigBluFrog has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:34:26 They were removed from GENERATED in Gehenna for that reason, but I guess the underlying issue was never fixed 14:34:33 GENERATING* 14:34:39 -!- LordSloth has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 14:34:43 -!- OCTOTROG has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:39:52 unknown monster: "salamander_simulacra" 14:39:52 %??salamander_simulacra 14:40:32 salamander simulacrum (12z) | Spd: 8 | HD: 8 | HP: 13-35 | AC/EV: 3/2 | Dam: 1412(cold:8-23) | 07undead, evil | Res: 06magic(10), 12cold+++, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 04fire, 08holy++ | XP: 45 | Sz: Medium | Int: plant. 14:40:32 %??salamander simulacrum 14:45:29 -!- Nethris has quit [Ping timeout: 241 seconds] 14:46:36 hum greetings, where should a newbie contributor look into to participate to the project: bug fixing or source code cleaning? 14:47:16 jmbto, Mantis is a good place to start looking if you want things to fix :) 14:47:18 ??mantis 14:47:18 bug[1/2]: To report bugs, go to: http://crawl.develz.org/mantis/main_page.php 14:47:55 yeah I know about that 14:48:17 it is just that some of the reports don't have much info on how to reproduce said bug 14:48:57 how one can deal with it anyway? 14:50:19 A general idea of how things work and grepping through the source 14:51:40 huh ok 14:51:45 thanks 14:52:07 Any specific bug you have in mind? 14:54:43 no 14:55:01 I thought about learning how things work on the fly 14:55:11 by fixing stuff that I can fix 14:55:35 -!- DrinkMachine has joined ##crawl-dev 14:55:42 -!- DrinkMachine has quit [Changing host] 14:55:42 -!- DrinkMachine has joined ##crawl-dev 15:01:38 if an issue is monitored, has it been assigned yet? 15:03:57 no, it just means someone is interested in it 15:04:08 most bugs go from new->resolved when they get fixed 15:04:45 * gammafunk monitors Grunt. Grunt is marked! 15:06:40 Grunt (on fire, bewildered and confused, marked for hunting, slightly transparent) 15:09:29 -!- cybie04 has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 15:10:01 Keskitalo and gammafunk, ok, I'll try never firing through my units then :p, it seems like a very low chance of going through them. (so far 4/4 has hit my own unit) 15:11:02 and when a save is supplied with a bug report, I guess it is preferable to checkout to the appropriate version with git 15:11:23 -!- j_ has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 15:11:52 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 15:13:40 j_: you can fire penetrating beams through them if they are immune to them 15:13:42 Grunt: re: enchantress, hangedman supported an idea to make the old forest ends possibly show up as depths vaults 15:13:52 like poison and draining 15:13:53 j_: If the save is a link to one of the servers, it may only be accessible to dev team members 15:14:08 er 15:14:12 -!- jeffro has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:14:16 jmbto: sorry, that was to you not j_ 15:14:59 -!- j_ has joined ##crawl-dev 15:15:33 -!- j_ is now known as julian 15:15:47 -!- jeffro has joined ##crawl-dev 15:15:48 -!- jeffro has quit [Changing host] 15:15:48 -!- jeffro has joined ##crawl-dev 15:16:13 -!- julian is now known as Guest39180 15:16:49 yeah I saw that 15:17:46 -!- Guest39180 is now known as julian____ 15:18:56 there are plenty of bugs that are easilly reproducible though. 15:19:18 like salamander simulacra swimming in lava 15:19:25 again, good bug 15:19:49 -!- rast has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:22:20 -!- OCTOTROG has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:26:13 yeah with the wizard modo 15:26:33 just realized it could make life easier 15:26:41 rather than grinding shit 15:27:28 -!- ldf has quit [Quit: ldf] 15:30:17 -!- OCTOTROG has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:30:46 -!- SenoraRaton has quit [] 15:31:12 -!- pelotron_ has quit [Quit: ~Internet()] 15:32:32 -!- OCTOTROG has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:32:32 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Saindo] 15:35:53 jmbto: You generally don't have to use the exact version of the save. Latest trunk should pretty much always be fine. 15:36:26 -!- xnavy has quit [Quit: leaving] 15:37:26 <|amethyst> usually you *want* to use latest trunk, in case the bug has already been fixed (perhaps unknowingly :) 15:38:29 I see 15:38:56 -!- DrinkMachine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:40:34 -!- nixor has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 15:41:09 -!- julian____ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 15:42:45 -!- Tedronai has quit [Quit: leaving] 15:43:33 -!- edhmaster has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:47:22 %git :~/-print-web 15:47:22 Could not find commit :~/-print-web (git returned 128) 15:47:26 %git :/-print-web 15:47:27 07Medar02 * 0.14-a0-2687-gdeceb63: Fix reading -print-webtiles-options output. 10(19 hours ago, 1 file, 6+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=deceb63ae733 15:47:54 |amethyst: WebTiles servers should be restarted for that. 15:48:54 <|amethyst> Medar: hm 15:49:09 At some point that is 15:49:53 <|amethyst> Medar: I also need to update CSZO and CAO webtiles configs for the player links 15:50:11 <|amethyst> anything else added recently (since send_json_options)? 15:50:20 Hmm. 15:50:28 -!- _fred has quit [Quit: leaving] 15:50:29 Oh right, the morgue_url thing. 15:51:33 -!- magicpoints has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 15:52:06 <|amethyst> wasn't there something for scoring page links too? 15:52:46 Right, player_url 15:54:34 morgue_url, send_json_options and player_url should be all. 15:56:10 The morgue_url comment should probably mention not forgetting last slash. 15:56:27 |amethyst: The cszo webtiles already does link to player pages 15:56:31 <|amethyst> fortunately I always include those in URLs 15:56:39 but I noticed that CAO doesn't 15:56:45 <|amethyst> gammafunk: that's right, just saw that I added that already and forgot about it 15:57:11 I seem to recall CAO also not sorting spectator names for some odd reason, but maybe I imagined that 15:57:12 Webtiles server restarted. 15:57:38 perhaps it doesn't sort if there's no player_url 15:57:50 ??bots 15:57:51 bots[1/2]: Bots that can be pm'd: announcement bots: Henzell (CAO, !), Gretell (CDO, @), Sizzell (CSZO, %), Lantell (CLAN, $), Ruffell (RHF, #), Rotatell (CBRO, ^); others: Varmin, Cheibriados (%), and Sequell (! ?? and others) 15:57:58 It might just not have been restarted since that got in. 15:58:08 right, that was probably it 15:58:21 -!- Foamed_ has quit [Quit: Heading to bed.] 15:58:57 -!- halv has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:59:52 Webtiles server restarted. 16:00:58 -!- whig has quit [Client Quit] 16:01:39 <|amethyst> yeah, it wasn't restarted 16:01:47 <|amethyst> I had already added player_url there too :) 16:02:28 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.14-a0-2721-g4592d88 (34) 16:02:28 <|amethyst> ok, seems to work on both servers (at least, # gives me a working URL in chat) 16:02:45 Good sysadmins like to see long uptime values 16:02:48 <|amethyst> And cszo is now updated to latest trunk to make up for me just removing summon_spells experimental branch 16:03:08 Nice. 16:03:11 (todo finish up Glaciate) 16:03:17 (and possibly Mass Fireball) 16:03:27 fr: Mass Glaciate 16:04:32 level 2 glaciate card, shoots glaciates in four directions 16:04:52 -!- dpeg has joined ##crawl-dev 16:05:00 <|amethyst> bah, mass is overused. Angular Momentum Fireball ftw 16:05:06 <|amethyst> AKA firenado 16:05:07 Unstable branch on crawl.lantea.net updated to: 0.14-a0-2721-g4592d88 (34) 16:05:13 -!- RiotInferno has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 16:05:15 !send dpeg mass fireballs 16:05:15 Sending mass fireballs to dpeg. 16:05:26 Just saw the new recommended/unrecommended screens for the first time, and I think the old use of darkgrey was better. 16:06:04 On my console, the recommended choices are not very prominent, and the old presentation made the mass of options less threatening. All IMO. 16:06:37 -!- Morg0th has quit [Quit: leaving] 16:06:49 -!- gammafunk has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 16:07:55 Can you change the menu color in your rcfile? 16:10:12 Hmmm... I definitely think something might be up with fireball tracers 16:10:31 bolt of explosions 16:10:33 Basil: probably, but I think defaults should be good for everyone. 16:10:34 I recall that thing where a fire giant shot a fireball at the air 16:10:39 fireballs each step along a bolt 16:10:40 In elliptic's game the other day 16:11:00 And this time a tengu reaver just killed 5 things (including himself) with a fireball that couldn't even reach me 16:11:06 Eronarn: what about it? 16:11:14 <|amethyst> Eronarn: yes, that exists now 16:11:21 <|amethyst> %git :/Fiery 16:11:29 07jpeg02 * 0.5-a0-1243-g8f90ca2: Allow randart book names of the type "Aerial Bewitchment" or "Fiery Darkness". (More synonyms welcome!) Also, if a randart book is not a god gift occasionally give it an old owner anyway, using make_name() like for shopkeepers. 10(5 years ago, 3 files, 151+ 12-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=8f90ca2d3f04 16:11:29 ??rod of fiery destruction 16:11:29 rod of fiery destruction[1/1]: Rod containing Throw Flame, Fireball, and Bolt of Fire. Contains only {explosive bolt} in 0.14. 16:11:29 ??explosive bolt 16:11:30 explosive bolt[1/1]: Found in the rod of fiery destruction. Fires a bolt that deals no damage but releases a fireball on everything it hits. 16:13:29 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 16:14:21 welp 16:14:23 I agree with dpeg. Maybe making the non-recommended combos darker places too high value for these recommendations, but it's still nicer for new players. 16:15:06 dpeg: I asked because making them different colors seems like a simple solution 16:15:18 but if you couldn't change the colors, that might be bad for the colorblind 16:16:55 -!- LexAckson has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:17:22 <|amethyst> colour vs whie isn't a problem for most colourblind people 16:17:35 I like the idea of being able to configure those colours, but we want sensible defaults too. 16:17:40 <|amethyst> however, green vs red vs yellow for the background could be (except that red is so dark) 16:18:03 03gammafunk02 {Medar} 07* 0.14-a0-2722-g8afe6ca: Fix to attack penance warnings. 10(19 hours ago, 2 files, 15+ 14-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=8afe6cab79eb 16:18:05 magenta recs and cyan non-recs 16:18:05 That's what I was thinking of, yes 16:18:05 !smite dck 16:18:05 Grunt gestures. Something smites dck! 16:18:07 green-red colorblindness 16:18:17 * dck appears unharmed. 16:18:32 <|amethyst> I have a nice pair of pink socks from my colourblind father-in-law 16:18:34 -!- gammafunk has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 16:18:39 <|amethyst> not sure what colour he thought they were 16:18:41 -!- tensorpudding has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:21:30 it's not a big deal, just my impression 16:22:02 kazl (L19 FeAr) ASSERT(amount >= 0) in 'player.cc' at line 7972 failed. (Vaults:5) 16:22:07 minmay pointed out that lightgrey is a bit hard to read on brown 16:22:08 !crashlog kazl 16:22:09 No milestones for kazl (crash). 16:22:29 <|amethyst> !crashlog kazl 16:22:30 No milestones for kazl (crash). 16:23:01 <|amethyst> http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/kazl/crash-kazl-20140218-222200.txt 16:23:17 <|amethyst> card_effect 16:23:31 <|amethyst> I guess I screwed up Alchemist 16:23:47 -!- exant has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:23:49 rip 16:24:12 guess this is why it's good that people do play trunk 16:24:12 wasn't there a bugfix with it 16:24:26 %git :/chemist 16:24:26 07|amethyst02 * 0.14-a0-2392-g356f176: Don't subtract then re-add gold with Alchemist card (#8065) 10(2 weeks ago, 1 file, 12+ 13-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=356f1768478f 16:27:00 <|amethyst> ohh 16:28:36 03|amethyst02 07* 0.14-a0-2723-gdc5d926: Charge correctly for alchemist MP. 10(79 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=dc5d926b7f8e 16:28:38 <|amethyst> Sometimes it's the small things 16:28:38 ...seen on webtiles: The spectral deep dwarf offers itself to nameless, and fills with unholy energy. 16:29:09 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 16:29:31 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 16:36:10 good bug 16:36:15 fr The Nameless God 16:37:54 -!- soundlust|2 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 16:37:58 You were a shining star in the eyes of 16:38:54 The Nameless One 16:38:58 <|amethyst> You raise your NO PLURAL ARMS in prayer to NO GOD 16:39:03 fr: T[a-z]O 16:39:22 NO for the NO GOD 16:39:32 NULL for his throne 16:39:36 NULL FOR the efb 16:40:06 weapon front legs 16:40:23 i like it so much it's even on mantis 16:40:43 gammafunk: Pushed your patch. Rewrapped the novel (aka. commit message) you wrote. And added curly braces for if statements that now take two lines. 16:43:37 -!- Yermak has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:43:51 Autoexplore issues with exclusions: done exploring / partly explored by Medar 16:43:51 My character was teleported outside the playable area. by Neuromancer 16:45:23 -!- Aryth has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.0.4 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/] 16:47:38 -!- honeybadger has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:50:35 -!- Stelpa has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:53:30 Medar: haha, sorry, I wrote really long commit messages to justify things 16:53:33 *write 16:54:20 I'll be more terse from now on and assume people can figure out what I did. 16:54:32 !send gammafunk wordswordswordswordswords 16:54:33 Sending wordswordswordswordswords to gammafunk. 16:54:46 Long commit message is not a bad thing. 16:55:49 But you should wrap to 72(?), not 80. 16:55:57 tenofwords 16:59:01 -!- gammafunk has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:59:10 -!- Krakhan has quit [Changing host] 17:00:08 -!- raskol has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 17:01:55 -!- LordSloth has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:05:00 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:05:53 -!- eith has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:08:23 -!- F-Glex has joined ##crawl-dev 17:10:11 -!- Mottikins__ has joined ##crawl-dev 17:10:30 -!- ystael has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 17:10:30 -!- Basil has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:11:05 -!- Basil has joined ##crawl-dev 17:13:41 -!- julian____ has joined ##crawl-dev 17:15:29 -!- Escalator has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:16:44 -!- Ququman has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:16:46 -!- G-Flex has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:16:46 -!- RiotInferno has quit [*.net *.split] 17:16:48 -!- Sombrero_Mott has quit [*.net *.split] 17:17:02 -!- F-Glex is now known as G-Flex 17:17:16 does highlighting in the race/background selection screen work differently now? 17:17:27 yes 17:17:29 for me a highlighted race on czso right now is uh... yellow on light grey 17:17:34 which looks absolutely horrid 17:17:43 light grey on yellow, rather 17:19:59 hrm, some other things are different too 17:24:40 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 17:24:47 -!- popx has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:25:01 -!- robbje has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 17:28:31 -!- bh has joined ##crawl-dev 17:35:34 -!- johnny0 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:35:54 -!- Neuromancer has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:35:55 -!- johnny0 has joined ##crawl-dev 17:37:10 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:39:24 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:42:21 ontoclasm: Ping 17:47:08 -!- julian__1_ has joined ##crawl-dev 17:47:49 -!- tali713 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 17:49:26 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:50:39 -!- tali713 has joined ##crawl-dev 17:51:17 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 17:54:16 -!- SeianVerian has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 17:55:42 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 17:56:53 -!- Ququman_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:57:18 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:57:19 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 17:57:32 -!- kats has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:57:50 -!- DracoOmega_ has joined ##crawl-dev 17:57:57 -!- julian__1_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 18:00:38 -!- DracoOmega has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:00:48 -!- bh has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:00:49 -!- dpeg has quit [Quit: sleep] 18:01:06 -!- Staplefun has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:01:53 -!- SeianVerian has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:06:54 -!- tenofswords has joined ##crawl-dev 18:14:08 -!- Ragnor has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:17:48 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:20:13 -!- Foamed has quit [Quit: Heading to bed.] 18:26:11 -!- DrinkMachine has joined ##crawl-dev 18:28:23 -!- sstrickl has quit [Quit: sstrickl] 18:31:42 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 18:33:20 wheals: Your enslave soul patch crashes when targeting an empty square. 18:33:33 oh, that makes sense 18:34:46 Also maybe it should work differently because there is a success rate. 18:35:23 Either not drop you out of the targeting mode when selecting invalid target. Or check for success after selecting target. 18:35:36 I don't really know how it's usually done. 18:35:38 -!- st_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:36:37 selecting target before checking for success makes sense (like a spell) but i'm not sure how to do it 18:36:38 hm 18:36:47 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 18:37:13 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 18:38:14 I can push the patch without that part too, since it's obviously an improvement anyway. 18:38:33 just check for null after monster* mons = monster_at(beam.target); i guess 18:42:49 if (mons == NULL || !you.can_see(mons)) so you can't use the failure to check for invisible monsters i guess 18:43:19 Well you can enslave invisible monster currently, so it should allow targeting empty squares. 18:44:09 i guess 18:44:20 There is no message though, but you don't get "Nothing appears to happen." either. 18:44:35 though in that case it would have to check for validity after checking for success 18:44:48 And autopickup isn't re-enabled when you kill the invisible monster... 18:45:14 Huh? 18:45:51 Maybe not allowing enslaving things you can't see would be best. 18:46:00 ok, sounds fine 18:46:23 -!- Neuromancer has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:48:31 -!- st_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:50:06 Meh, I won't push anything for now. Improvements welcome. 18:50:21 Just wanted to get that self targeting message in! :) 18:50:34 heh, grunt also liked it 18:50:42 i'll fix the crash and think about the other things 18:50:56 Ok, nice 18:59:23 -!- lion_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:06:38 -!- fiddlerw1aroof is now known as fiddlerwoaroof 19:09:48 -!- exant has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:14:20 I remember the cancel for tt I think it was 19:14:24 -!- Ququman has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:14:28 said ", and be though a fool" like 50% of the time 19:14:34 it actually called coinflip() 19:14:40 -!- Yermak has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:16:54 -!- LordSloth has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:20:26 -!- DracoOmega_ is now known as DracoOmega 19:26:14 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 19:28:36 -!- raskol has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:32:25 !8173 19:32:34 er 19:32:37 !bug 8173 19:32:38 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=8173 19:32:56 There's no patch in that, but does anyone have any comments on the approach (and the idea for implementing it)? 19:34:08 Good luck! 19:34:23 haha, not sure how to take that... 19:34:41 Medar: Do you think it's problematic? 19:35:02 Actually I don't know that code at all, so no idea. 19:37:04 I hope weird redraw issues won't clobber the unseen marker or something, but I don't think it would 19:37:11 -!- alefury has quit [] 19:38:16 Oh, there might, actually 19:38:20 Not that I can be too helpful 19:38:36 But at some point in the distant past I tried to make antenna show detected monsters in los, just like they can out of los 19:38:54 And I can't remember what the problem was, but I was at it for hours and could never get it to work properly 19:39:04 hrm, I'm plugging it into the existing function that sets unseen markers, so it *should* work fine 19:39:17 Maybe 19:39:30 It's been so long I don't remember the problem 19:39:38 Just that it was a tangled mess >.> 19:39:38 DracoOmega: Another issue, vaguely related to your attempt 19:39:50 -!- jeffro has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:39:51 If a monster steps into los and then out of los in the same turn 19:39:59 the player gets a message but sees nothing 19:40:16 would adding the detected monster glyph/tile in the tile out of los 19:40:20 I recall there being a whole bunch of layers to the display code 19:40:30 where the monster move out of los be a good idea? 19:40:37 The best thing for that would probably be to not get a message. 19:40:45 true 19:40:48 That might be hard though. 19:40:49 -!- jeffro has joined ##crawl-dev 19:40:49 Not necessarily 19:40:51 certainly simpler! 19:40:58 Since you might know that the monster is coming 19:41:04 And then assume that it somehow hasn't, if you get no message 19:41:11 Like, if you blinked away or something 19:41:22 So I think it's probably important to get some indication that it crossed your sight lines 19:41:25 DracoOmega: iirc everyone who has ever looked at the bug with antennae not detecting invis monsters in sight has come away not being able to figure out why it wasn't working :P 19:41:41 elliptic: Haha. Sounds pretty bad. 19:41:43 ohho, a worthy challenge 19:42:13 I think whatever the problem was, it's quite a few layers deep 19:42:14 "They tried and failed? THEY TRIED AND DIED" -- Dune 19:42:28 Things somewhere getting wiped after you set them and before they are displayed 19:42:37 gammafunk: I don't think that giving the player the information of where the monster moved out of sight is a good idea 19:42:42 since we don't normally give this information 19:42:44 I think I had it HALF working 19:42:48 fr sandworms 19:42:51 yeah, that's a fair point 19:42:51 a message sounds reasonable 19:42:59 oh well we *do* give this message though 19:43:07 it's just that the player has no visual indication 19:43:13 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=4118 19:43:14 or you're just saying status quo is fine? 19:43:22 Actually, I think maybe it was working in console but not tiles? Or for Ash threat tiers but not normal detection? 19:43:26 there's a patch on that, even 19:43:45 huh 19:43:46 Since there's a brief window where Ash gives detection but not see invis, too 19:43:59 -!- Blazinghand|Work has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:44:12 gammafunk: er, actually I think I mean that it shouldn't give a message :P 19:44:16 but yeah i think there is a bunch of discussion on that issue and the related issues, anyway 19:44:37 yeah mumra concluded same as elliptic 19:44:41 unlike the invis situation, the monster will have to enter sight again before you can interact with it 19:45:05 not sure how easy it is to suppress that message though 19:45:17 I guess just make the messsage a delayed effect or whatever 19:45:26 yeah, that could indeed be a bit tricky 19:45:51 although I guess you'd want to print it before a message about the monster doing something 19:46:04 which sounds like a pain 19:46:37 I wonder how bad not allowing monsters to act like that would be. 19:46:42 I think the only problem with the current state of things is that it's pretty confusing until you figure out what's going on 19:46:42 That might be hard and hacky too anyway. 19:47:16 The messages are pretty explicit, however 19:48:01 Looks like I even still have stashed code from my attempt at this 19:48:05 a modified version of this patch could remove the markers after one turn, potentially 19:48:13 I wonder if any of it is useful? 19:48:14 Well, it's also annoying. Because if you saw the monsters, you should know which direction it was. 19:48:26 Full of nice debugging statements like mpr("Why are we here?); 19:48:59 Medar: yeah... but it isn't nearly as big a deal as the step-into-sight-and-go-invis thing 19:49:05 since that one is actually dangerous 19:49:20 True. 19:49:27 actually, looking at the patch MarvinPA mentioned, it looks like I may want to use monster flags 19:49:42 intead of a monster class boolean var (which I would add) 19:49:52 this is for the invis issue, to be clear 19:50:53 Can we revert this while we are at it? https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=3790 19:51:08 The pushing past shows the other monster out of los thing. 19:51:50 -!- Zermako has quit [Quit: good night and good luck to all!] 19:58:24 -!- MarvinPA_ has joined ##crawl-dev 19:58:57 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:59:02 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:59:38 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 19:59:51 -!- Keanan has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:02:58 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:03:03 -!- Keanan has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:04:28 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 20:05:36 -!- MarvinPA_ is now known as MarvinPA 20:07:12 -!- Ataraxzy has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 20:09:07 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:10:37 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 20:12:26 -!- hurdos has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:14:11 -!- Keanan has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:14:22 -!- rossi has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.3] 20:14:28 -!- buki has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:21:50 -!- iasov has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:24:20 -!- Basil has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:28:08 -!- Basil has joined ##crawl-dev 20:36:29 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:41:10 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 20:41:44 -!- NotKintak has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:44:35 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 20:49:27 -!- vede has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:50:16 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:00:41 -!- Foamed has quit [Quit: Heading to bed.] 21:02:53 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 21:06:25 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:06:36 -!- Escalator has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 21:09:27 -!- LexAckson has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:14:26 -!- popsofctown has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:19:29 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:23:53 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 21:25:16 -!- Piginabag has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:28:30 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Saindo] 21:33:56 -!- ShadeTornado has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:35:10 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:38:33 -!- conted has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:38:34 -!- Kasofa has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:43:17 -!- jeffro_ has joined ##crawl-dev 21:45:32 -!- jeffro has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 21:50:14 -!- raskol has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:50:45 -!- icantfindaname has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:53:23 -!- ackack has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:54:27 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 253 seconds] 21:55:11 -!- MP2E has quit [Quit: brb!] 21:57:50 -!- HellTiger_NB has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 22:00:08 -!- tenofswords has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:06:03 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:10:38 -!- exant has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:10:41 -!- Ruble has quit [] 22:11:59 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:13:01 -!- Superterranean has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:17:26 -!- tabstorm_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:18:24 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 22:18:50 -!- dck has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 22:23:02 -!- julian____ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:23:18 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 22:31:03 -!- mamgar has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:31:33 -!- omnirizon has quit [Quit: leaving] 22:32:18 -!- kujutwo has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:32:25 -!- ToastyP has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:40:54 -!- merekat has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:41:11 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 22:50:13 -!- DrKe2 has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 22:59:08 -!- DrinkMachine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:04:33 hmm is rhf deceased? 23:05:05 It's not just you! http://rl.heh.fi looks down from here. 23:05:37 rhf is kill 23:09:41 I guess joosa was thinking of taking rhf down at some point anyway? I don't know if that is what this is or if there is just a networking issue 23:09:55 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:11:04 !seen joosa 23:11:04 I last saw joosa at Sun Jan 26 09:48:42 2014 UTC (3w 2d 19h 22m 22s ago) quitting, saying 'Quit: brb'. 23:11:10 brb 23:11:36 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 23:13:29 brb my house is on fire 23:14:38 -!- popsofctown has quit [] 23:22:43 -!- exant has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 23:26:50 -!- Stelpa has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:30:49 -!- ebarrett has quit [] 23:32:39 Unstable branch on crawl.lantea.net updated to: 0.14-a0-2723-gdc5d926 (34) 23:39:48 -!- Thurston has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 23:41:00 -!- Basil has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:42:29 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:42:36 -!- hurdos1 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:43:02 -!- Basil has joined ##crawl-dev 23:44:07 -!- OCTOTROG has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:45:00 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:45:16 -!- rast- is now known as rast 23:49:52 -!- jeanjacques has joined ##crawl-dev 23:50:24 -!- N78291 has quit [Quit: null] 23:52:51 -!- Bloax has quit [Quit: Error: Bloax not found] 23:55:37 -!- Zeor has quit [Quit: thump] 23:58:09 -!- Keanan1 has quit [Quit: Leaving.]