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13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=119c1145996a 01:01:28 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 01:02:28 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 01:06:44 -!- Enthusiasm has quit [Client Quit] 01:12:01 -!- Giomancer has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:16:12 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:20:05 <|amethyst> Grunt: you know how you used you.elapsed_time to compute last_20_turns when unmarshalling old games? 01:20:30 <|amethyst> Grunt: elapsed_time isn't read yet 01:20:50 also just going to voice the feeling that all 3 versions of glaciate feel much weaker than ice storm 01:20:54 <|amethyst> Grunt: as a result, monsters don't leave corpses in transferred games 01:21:38 <|amethyst> Grunt: unless the game is new enough that the timers are close to reasonable---then you can get pre-rotted corpses 01:22:41 glaciate as a level 9 spell is really weird 01:23:09 it feels more like level 6 01:23:59 -!- EatsDungeonBats_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:25:24 -!- 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Quit] 05:01:59 -!- jeffro has joined ##crawl-dev 05:02:29 -!- jeffro has quit [Client Quit] 05:03:00 -!- jeffro has joined ##crawl-dev 05:03:19 -!- jeffro has quit [Client Quit] 05:08:10 -!- jeffro has joined ##crawl-dev 05:35:46 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:36:19 -!- jeffro has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in] 05:36:41 -!- BlackrayJack has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 05:37:16 -!- alefury has joined ##crawl-dev 05:43:11 -!- Basil has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 05:50:21 -!- rossi has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.2] 05:52:14 -!- jeffro has joined ##crawl-dev 05:52:26 -!- jeffro has quit [Client Quit] 05:52:58 -!- jeffro has joined ##crawl-dev 05:54:01 -!- jeffro has quit [Client Quit] 05:54:33 -!- jeffro has joined ##crawl-dev 06:00:42 Hmm, Lantea is lagging for me. Triple ping and some packet loss. 06:00:50 -!- alaspooryorick has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 06:00:55 -!- geekosaur has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 06:10:49 -!- tsohg has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:11:13 -!- geekosaur has joined ##crawl-dev 06:12:06 03Medar02 07* 0.14-a0-2543-g45c052c: Fix WebTiles exit dialog showing up for player when it shouldn't. (#8131) 10(4 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=45c052ce27eb 06:12:40 Oh, good the lag is gone. Don't have to fix more bugs :) 06:15:46 -!- DrinkMachine has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 06:15:59 -!- Akien has quit [Quit: Quitte] 06:28:55 And it's back :( 06:42:35 -!- radinms has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 06:44:39 -!- Hailley has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 06:53:49 -!- eith has joined ##crawl-dev 06:54:02 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 06:58:36 -!- syllogism has joined ##crawl-dev 07:00:13 -!- eivuokko has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 07:04:11 -!- debo has quit [Quit: debo] 07:06:37 -!- Chris7 has quit [] 07:06:52 -!- conted has quit [Quit: Page closed] 07:10:02 03yobbo02 {Medar} 07* 0.14-a0-2544-ge03b0eb: Check for monsters in range when evoking a wielded rod using "v". 10(4 years ago, 5 files, 26+ 6-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=e03b0eb1dc97 07:25:24 hm i'm not sure that is useful 07:26:22 Why not? 07:26:59 -!- Sgeo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:29:54 because it moves the common action from v to V for little gain 07:30:10 (the V interface isn't much like Z either really) 07:30:25 What common action? 07:30:44 evoking a rod 07:30:55 No it doesn't. 07:31:29 then i'm not sure what was actually changed 07:31:42 evoking a rod when no monster is in range 07:32:19 I can't see that being a common action 07:33:10 isn't there still a rod with cloud spells 07:33:15 (as an example) 07:33:47 !bug 7092 07:33:47 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=7092 07:33:54 That's already super annoying with spells too 07:34:07 And shouldn't be used as an excuse to make rod interface worse, IMO 07:34:15 for spells you can use Z 07:34:19 for rods you cannot use V 07:34:36 you'll need V then rod letter 07:34:45 Yes, it's one extra letter 07:35:00 shift-v is another compared to v 07:35:21 I still maintain the bug is not the rod interface, but the handling of cloud spells 07:35:27 If it's a common action, it shouldn't need a confirmation 07:37:00 Hmm, do cloud rods still exist? 07:37:28 fcloud one at least does, so does pcloud 07:37:33 were there more? 07:37:45 Ah, yes they do 07:39:44 oh wow this also triggers for invisible stuff you'd want to hit? 07:39:54 Hmm? 07:40:27 Yes, if there are no visible monsters in range and you want to use the rod, you have to use V 07:40:36 this sounds worse and worse 07:40:39 -!- Giomancer has joined ##crawl-dev 07:41:33 Yeah, I usually kill like at least few thousand invisible enemies with rods per game while not having anything else around. 07:42:26 point is the interface shouldn't try to outsmart the user like this 07:42:43 i haven't used z in ages but apparently it's just as awful 07:43:21 You are vastly overestimating the situations where this happens. 07:43:53 Yes, the cloud thing is bad. But invisible enemy stuff is just not common. 07:44:30 And I for do like the range warning. Presumably others do too, since it's the default setting. 07:44:31 -!- gnum has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:45:25 right, i can live with a bad default that may or may not help others 07:45:42 there is no such alternative for rods 07:46:28 How about we add an option for these. Like check_spell_range or something 07:47:04 not happy 07:47:08 Also easier to change for people who want to disable the z stuff, instead of rebinding 07:47:22 Why not? 07:47:43 well if you think this is an improvement, so be it 07:47:59 i'll rather try to get it reverted in some way than introduce new options nobody will ever see or use 07:48:26 I just don't see how this rod thing is bad, unless the spell thing is bad too 07:48:59 The main annoyance is not that you need to press shift-z, it's that you need do the action again. 07:49:11 And in that sense the extra keypress isn't a big deal to me. 07:49:45 -!- ainsophyao has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:53:09 -!- MP2E has quit [Quit: leaving] 07:58:14 -!- eith has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 07:58:42 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 07:58:57 oh, i agree with ChrisOelmueller by the way 07:59:01 about the rod thing 07:59:28 Do you use z? 07:59:29 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 07:59:31 no 07:59:32 z is awful 08:00:09 the thing about z is that to actually see the range of the spell you have to press Z anyway 08:00:16 because circlelos 08:02:16 The darken_beyond_range thing is fairly usable in tiles at least. 08:02:27 yes, but you don't see that with z 08:02:29 only with Z!! 08:02:33 unless it is different in tiles 08:02:39 or maybe you mean a different thing 08:02:46 It flashes there for 50 ms 08:03:03 When you get the "no monsters withing range" message 08:03:03 ok, yeah, same thing in console then i think 08:03:09 that is too short to be useful at all to me 08:03:57 It's a bit quick yes. 08:04:21 Anyway, I'm not dead set on this v thing staying in. 08:04:30 I just don't think it makes much sense to remove it, but keep z as is. 08:04:33 well i think that Z should be default instead of z honestly 08:04:43 i don't see what z does that Z is not better for 08:06:23 i guess maybe z is better for macros? 08:09:22 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 08:12:44 Have to go now. I'll leave the patch in for now. We'll see what other people think. 08:12:54 Maybe people who actually use z :) 08:16:53 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 08:22:25 -!- ackack has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:26:01 -!- RZX has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:26:13 -!- randomizr is now known as RZX 08:30:53 -!- bmfx has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 08:32:11 List guaranteed Hell/Pan/Abyss entries in "Branches" section on Ctrl-O dungeon overview by chris 08:32:52 -!- tsohg has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:37:34 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 08:39:04 -!- LonLobom has quit [Client Quit] 08:43:17 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 08:44:09 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 08:55:16 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 08:55:46 how about A (instead of a) while evoking a rod being the equivalent of Z (versus z)? 08:55:49 wheals: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 08:56:46 it wouldn't increase number of keypresses (ok, if you count shift as one it would) 08:56:46 <|amethyst> wheals: doesn't help with single-spell rods 08:57:05 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:57:12 also inconsistent interface like that is super awful 09:05:39 -!- DrinkMachine has joined ##crawl-dev 09:10:17 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 09:10:38 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 09:19:14 -!- pelotron_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 09:28:27 -!- tsohg has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:31:42 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 09:32:50 -!- raskol` is now known as raskol 09:33:38 -!- BigBluFrog has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:35:53 hmm does god stuff ("acquired ... power") no longer show up in the notes after the third one? 09:37:55 nevermind 09:40:50 -!- magicpoints has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:42:32 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:46:20 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 09:46:45 -!- st_ has quit [] 09:53:11 Firing non-fire branded bolts with a fire-branded ranged weapon still angers Dith by PleasingFungus 09:58:05 -!- eith has joined ##crawl-dev 09:58:23 -!- Foamed_ has quit [Client Quit] 09:58:25 -!- Lightli has joined ##crawl-dev 09:58:37 -!- sstrickl has quit [Quit: sstrickl] 09:59:41 -!- Foamed has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:59:54 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 10:10:54 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:14:39 -!- tksquared_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 10:17:27 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 10:20:38 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:23:43 Re: mantis 8137, is there any concensus on whether branded ranged weapons & branded ranged ammo is something we want to keep? 10:25:38 hm? i.e. having both? 10:25:45 or removing both? 10:26:46 given the choice i'd completely remove ammo but that's not a feasible short-term goal is it 10:26:48 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 10:29:29 there have been suggestions to make launcher/missile brands be disjoint, which seems like a good idea to me but also requires figuring out a whole bunch of stuff for ranged combat 10:29:53 which i don't particularly have any plans on doing! 10:32:19 what kind of stuff 10:32:27 "how does any of this work" 10:32:43 "how did any of this ever work" 10:33:15 "why did anyone make this in the first place" 10:35:06 -!- Morg0th has quit [Quit: leaving] 10:35:19 how much of that would just removing elemental ammo solve? 10:38:15 i was thinking removing the elemental launcher brands but that would probably be similarly good, yes 10:38:47 it would also remove interesting behaviour like combining vorpal launchers with branded ammo for double damage bonuses 10:39:03 because as we all know that is a great thing to have 10:39:33 yeah or that of course 10:40:13 of course that just means on bows and slings you always want vorpal brand forever 10:40:30 It's like speed and big weapons. 10:40:41 Except with a much more common brand because crawl has to make sense every now and then. 10:41:19 ChrisOelmueller: what other brands would be left on bows and slings? evasion? 10:41:29 oh, speed on bows I think? 10:42:01 i think speed is artefact only on bows 10:42:03 that's the point 10:42:37 xbows with penetration at least has something resembling a choice 10:42:54 random non-artefact launchers are plain/flame/frost/evasion/vorpal 10:43:05 -!- thug_lessons has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:43:32 (currently) 10:43:53 I'm with ChrisOelmueller, just remove ammo 10:44:13 -!- eith|3 has joined ##crawl-dev 10:44:40 Also, please make launchers go into a special equip slot so you never have to swap weapons 10:44:58 alefury: might and magic a go go 10:45:02 otoh that would also be dumb 10:45:28 because without ammo you can just always use ranged attacks 10:45:43 but if there has to be ammo it should be unbranded and should always mulch 10:46:40 less annoying and no mechanical difference (just spawn more ammo and make it lighter) 10:47:09 removing ammo would remove a lot of dungeon trash 10:47:25 -!- eith has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 10:47:38 and make trog/okawaru a little bit less stupid due to them not exclusively giving you ammo after you reach skill 8 in x/bows 10:47:47 yeah but it doesn't work so well, I talked about that with some people some time last year 10:48:51 Well it could work, but launchers would have to suck hard at low skill, which causes problems in early game 10:49:59 -!- eith|3 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 10:50:03 -!- lessens has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:54:38 It would make CeHu even more overpowered, but I can't see how much changes for anything else in the later game. 10:54:58 wheals: any idea why I get 'fatal: corrupt patch at line 246' when applying sustab1.patch? 10:55:13 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:55:44 Bloax: free damage against approaching melee enemies for no investment, as long as you have a launcher 10:55:51 no 10:56:18 i think i manually edited it 10:56:38 so basically crawl would become a little bit more m&m 10:57:11 wheals: could you try and remake it? 10:57:17 ok 10:57:35 and the free damage also exists currently 10:57:40 in the form of launchers 10:57:52 because ammo is more than plenty for that purpose 10:57:52 You have to pay with ammo and weapon switching 10:58:25 you get a bit less than one shot extra and the luxury of not having to pick up ammo 10:58:29 So it costs ingame time, slight effort, and is only very cheap, not free 10:58:41 seems like a fine tradeoff for getting rid of ammo 10:58:45 -!- ldierk has joined ##crawl-dev 10:59:04 Maybe 10:59:04 and make launchers not be awkward 10:59:32 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/18158913/possiblyfixed.patch 10:59:40 ^^^the possibly fixed patch 10:59:51 -!- sstrickl has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:00:56 now it works thanks 11:02:46 -!- blabber has joined ##crawl-dev 11:02:47 -!- wheals_ has joined ##crawl-dev 11:02:54 -!- wheals has quit [Disconnected by services] 11:02:58 -!- wheals_ is now known as wheals 11:04:17 -!- Lightli has joined ##crawl-dev 11:11:12 -!- alefury has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Iceweasel 26.0/20131215102647]] 11:13:24 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.14-a0-2544-ge03b0eb (34) 11:16:59 -!- Lawman0 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:22:16 !tell alefury You seem to have a well rounded knowledge on past discussions regarding ranged combat and ammo; care to bring up on c-r-d? 11:22:16 Cryp71c: OK, I'll let alefury know. 11:26:44 -!- sstrickl has quit [Client Quit] 11:32:21 there's a bunch of old tavern threads about it 11:32:54 https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=4891&hilit=ammunition dunno if that's the most recent 11:35:01 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:41:33 -!- alefury has joined ##crawl-dev 11:42:03 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 11:43:25 -!- scummos| has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:47:48 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:52:43 -!- absolutego has quit [Quit: leaving] 11:58:35 -!- zxc232 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 12:01:50 -!- Foamed has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:03:14 -!- zxc232 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:03:23 -!- Foamed_ has quit [Client Quit] 12:03:40 -!- OCTOTROG has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:03:46 deep elf knight (10e) | Spd: 10 | HD: 11 | HP: 38-63 | AC/EV: 0/15 | Dam: 14 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, fighter, spellcaster | Res: 06magic(88) | Chunks: 07contam | XP: 778 | Sp: magic dart (3d5), slow, haste, blink / throw flame (3d8), confuse, invisibility, magic dart (3d5) / throw frost (3d8), cantrip, haste, throw flame (3d8), magic dart (3d5), 04esc:invisibility | Sz: Medium | Int: high. 12:03:46 %??deep elf knight 12:04:02 !lg Bloax sprint -log 12:04:03 297. Bloax, XL9 GrGl, T:117: http://crawl.lantea.net/crawl/morgue/Bloax/morgue-Bloax-20140210-180318.txt 12:04:05 -!- minmay has joined ##crawl-dev 12:04:33 now how the hell did that happen 12:06:07 -!- Adder_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:08:35 what's with the ranged combat discussion 12:09:28 Vorpal+Fire/Frost ammo is stupid, ammo is stupid, why does ammo exist. 12:10:08 -!- alefury has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:18:02 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 12:24:29 -!- gbeene has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:28:47 -!- DrinkMachine has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:29:12 -!- ainsophyao has joined ##crawl-dev 12:44:07 MarvinPA, I'm sure there's mention of it on devwiki too, though I'm certain those discussions are ancient at best and outdated at worst. 12:44:37 the devwiki ones are pretty ancient yes, the tavern ones are relatively recent 12:53:37 -!- DrinkMachine has joined ##crawl-dev 12:53:37 -!- DrinkMachine has quit [Changing host] 12:53:37 -!- DrinkMachine has joined ##crawl-dev 12:53:47 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 12:54:10 * SamB does not think that bh has correctly characterized this piece: https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Sokrates-British_Museum2.jpg 12:54:22 there aren't many non-ancient dewiki discussions 12:54:59 -!- Lawman0 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:59:10 wheals, indeed; unfortunately devwiki is where the best content is (or at least, used to be) 12:59:42 devwiki is where way too much content is 12:59:48 and no relevant content 13:02:55 // Orcish ammo gets poisoned a lot more often. 13:02:59 good makeitem.cc 13:03:12 oh are you also checking that brilliant stuff now 13:03:34 it came up again but on closer inspection it's too good to remove, clearly 13:03:46 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:03:47 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 13:03:53 -!- magicpoints has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:03:55 i might terribly nerf beogh and demonspawn yes 13:03:56 -!- eith has joined ##crawl-dev 13:04:14 i already did launchers at least, that seems definitely fine 13:04:34 -!- ainsophyao has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:04:35 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 13:04:51 -!- sstrickl has quit [Changing host] 13:05:32 it's ok as long as you don't remove the shopping.cc code for racial ammo pricing 13:05:55 which of course doesn't exist no don't go and look for it 13:06:01 :( 13:06:45 how disappointing 13:07:55 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 13:09:27 MarvinPA, wha? Your fragmented sentences confuse my simple mind. 13:10:01 Cryp71c: removing racial weapons, since they do almost nothing 13:10:22 with beogh+orcish weapons being the one exception really, and probably there's some better alternative solution for that 13:10:36 "make orcish" abili- 13:11:30 slaying based on allies surrounding you 13:12:03 learn add sentences_not_heard_often beogh can take the nerf 13:12:48 add it to rare_messages 13:13:08 -!- DrinkMachine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:13:26 i should add that stupid octopode message to it 13:13:36 so people notice it exists and do The Right Thing 13:14:15 even on beogh it only maxes out at like +3-6 to-dam (randomly per hit) and +1 tohit 13:14:30 you could just have beogh give you +1 slaying per * or whatever 13:14:50 rename him mikeogh 13:16:03 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:20:18 MarvinPA, cutting out racial equipment will (mostly) effect dwarven armor. 13:20:31 Since everyone uses it for acid-resistance. 13:21:03 the fix there is to make all armor dwarven for acid purposes 13:21:04 i'm only looking at weapons at the moment 13:21:16 but probably racial armour would be no great loss either 13:21:33 it wouldn't 13:22:03 i've yet to come up with something for the elven stuff though 13:22:18 as that actually does things, either for stealth or spellcasting 13:22:28 and the latter is rather noticeable 13:23:24 -!- mongor has quit [Quit: mongor] 13:25:19 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 13:30:35 -!- KurzedMetal has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:31:14 -!- mamgar has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:33:57 -!- Basil has joined ##crawl-dev 13:34:08 -!- stuntaneous_u has quit [Excess Flood] 13:35:01 -!- stuntaneous has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 13:35:58 elven stuff should always be enchanted with something 13:36:14 unless elves are only pretending to abuse magic left and right and actually don't want to wear magic stuff 13:36:23 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 13:37:02 we could at least remove elven robes and leathers 13:37:52 or make "elven" a brand 13:38:09 You see here a ring mail of wizardry. 13:38:42 -!- Escalator has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:38:47 -!- Blazinghand|Work has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:40:56 -!- Amy|Sonata has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 13:41:11 -!- Mandevil has quit [Quit: leaving] 13:43:53 I still miss robe of wizardry 13:44:04 when did that exist 13:44:13 0.5 and earlier I think 13:44:23 -!- Datul has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:47:02 i was looking for it and found this 13:47:05 %git b93f4276 13:47:07 07MarvinPA02 * 0.9-a1-283-gb93f427: Simplify a couple of spellcasting formulae, remove unnecessary factors 10(2 years, 8 months ago, 1 file, 2+ 12-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=b93f427612a7 13:47:07 Archmagi? 13:47:25 That provided wizardry a good while ago, along with an enhancer 13:47:27 -!- Foamed has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:48:06 %git 71eabdf41 13:48:06 07MarvinPA02 * 0.8.0-a0-5384-g71eabdf: Remove wizardry effect from Archmagi, boost Tmut/Tloc spells 10(3 years ago, 3 files, 3+ 11-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=71eabdf41c09 13:48:09 that might be it 13:48:14 -!- bmfx has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:49:30 there sure are a lot of references to racial ammo lying around 13:50:26 monsters still try to get given racial ammo based on the race of their weapon 13:51:45 stupid monsters 13:53:17 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:57:16 learn add racism 14:01:53 -!- morik___ has quit [*.net *.split] 14:01:53 -!- Porost has quit [*.net *.split] 14:01:53 -!- Lprsti99 has quit [*.net *.split] 14:01:55 -!- Elsi has quit [*.net *.split] 14:01:56 -!- Xjs|moonshine has quit [*.net *.split] 14:02:18 -!- morik___ has joined ##crawl-dev 14:09:51 well probably this works but i didn't handle vaults or tiles yet, i guess i'll do more next time i'm bored and/or push it to a branch 14:09:55 unfr vaults and tiles, etc 14:09:56 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 14:14:50 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.14-a0-2545-gd7857ab: Fix cursed rings message for cases with the macabre necklace 10(24 hours ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=d7857ab5030b 14:14:50 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.14-a0-2546-gb818ab2: Don't list Ziggurats under "Branches" on the overview screen 10(4 hours ago, 1 file, 3+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=b818ab23ffe3 14:14:50 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.14-a0-2547-g052d36c: Let some new effects be dispelled by vulnerability 10(4 hours ago, 1 file, 3+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=052d36c0c41a 14:14:50 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.14-a0-2548-g142965b: Remove some references to racial ammunition 10(36 minutes ago, 2 files, 0+ 17-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=142965bd79f6 14:14:50 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.14-a0-2549-ga8f07b1: Add argonaut to CREDITS.txt 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=a8f07b1d7ffb 14:17:30 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 14:18:32 -!- Blazinghand|Work has quit [Read error: Connection timed out] 14:19:13 rip 14:21:28 apparently the racial ammo preference is still there though 14:21:58 yes, that's mixed up in removing racial weapons anyway 14:22:02 so i just left it in the branch 14:23:19 -!- nixor has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 14:29:55 -!- OCTOTROG has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:30:13 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:30:48 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:31:48 -!- Foamed has quit [Quit: Heading to bed.] 14:32:02 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:33:01 also unrelatedly, if anyone plays with/has opinions on n78's new spells they should say stuff 14:33:17 <|amethyst> MarvinPA: should we set up an experimental branch? 14:34:15 hmm, could do 14:35:16 possibly they're closer to just being able to go into trunk rather than needing an experimental branch, mainly i'm just not sure how well guardian golem will play 14:35:56 also can cursed rings of negative slaying just not exist on the dungeon menu 14:36:00 <|amethyst> and you said you were thinking of removing Imp from that book? 14:36:31 <|amethyst> MarvinPA: wondering if we should adjust CCF down to L2 14:36:36 rings of slaying are like one of the rarest rings in the game 14:36:51 and having completely useless spawns of them "because fuck you" is kind of bad 14:37:00 i think probably i'd go with the updated patch, that one adds guardian golem and lightning spire to callings (and scorpions is removed) 14:37:09 and adds summon forest to the book of the warp instead 14:37:49 -acc,+dam could still exist but -acc,-dam is plain bad taste 14:38:32 unless you want to potentially murder very early characters with a very rare ring 14:38:43 in which case you might as well just spawn rings of fire/ice cursed 14:39:15 <|amethyst> cursed fire/ice sounds good 14:39:32 bad rings must not exist because __? 14:39:47 <|amethyst> I think this rests a bit on a fallacy 14:39:49 because remove curse is right around the corner 14:40:05 wearing all the rings already is pretty much the thing to do, i'd either do something to fix the situation or go the extra millimeter and identify jewelry 14:40:09 <|amethyst> "If I hadn't gotten this -x,-y slaying ring, I would have gotten a +x,+y one instead" 14:40:09 all of it and forever 14:40:24 and yes, remove curse is way too common 14:40:31 i meant to tweak that actually but ew numbers 14:41:29 and while i don't care about hunger or other silly things like negative stats (which are usually useless) having a very rare ring like slaying be bad (rings of regeneration don't randomly spawn as degeneration) is a kick to the balls 14:42:01 the reason you don't care about hunger or negative stats is they don't do anything 14:42:05 and negative slaying does 14:42:18 correct reaction there is not remove the meaningless ones 14:42:28 i don't follow this 14:43:33 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 14:44:05 well whatever 14:44:21 rng always exists to give you something that isn't bad one day 14:45:58 -!- Blazinghand|Work has quit [Read error: Connection timed out] 14:46:09 %git 14:46:09 07MarvinPA02 * 0.14-a0-2549-ga8f07b1: Add argonaut to CREDITS.txt 10(34 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=a8f07b1d7ffb 14:46:13 shouldn't summon forest be necromanxy? it does, after all, bring something back from the dead. 14:46:18 |amethyst: i have the summon patches in a local branch along with removing summon scorpions spell fully (rather than just moving it out of the summoner book), i'll push that 14:46:34 ??envenomations 14:46:35 and then it could be experimentalised or i could just poke people a bit and get some thoughts on the golem, probably either is fine 14:46:39 summon forest should have a different name! about globalization and 14:47:10 gammafunk: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 14:47:10 I don't have a page labeled envenomations in my learndb. 14:47:11 -!- rchandra has joined ##crawl-dev 14:47:24 Sequell: so slow today 14:47:27 ??book of envenomations 14:47:27 book of envenomations[1/1]: Spider Form, Poison Weapon, Summon Scorpions, Olgreb's Toxic Radiance, Poisonous Cloud 14:47:34 four spells is a bit small 14:47:45 i shuffled intoxicate out of some book or other to take its place 14:47:55 alchemy i think 14:48:11 envenomations already doesn't really need to exist 14:48:46 also true, yes 14:49:11 ??book_of_envenomations 14:49:11 book of envenomations[1/1]: Spider Form, Poison Weapon, Summon Scorpions, Olgreb's Toxic Radiance, Poisonous Cloud 14:49:16 "bad books must not exist because ___?" 14:49:30 zot commands it? 14:49:44 well clearly we must make room for the actual good books 14:49:48 because books are rare and stuff 14:49:58 good books are like one of the rarest things in the game 14:49:59 and having completely useless spawns of them "because fuck you" is kind of bad 14:50:37 notice how this also goes for weapons 14:50:59 -!- eith|2 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:51:07 (randarts too!) 14:51:14 note how that is why hammers don't exist 14:51:19 for instance. 14:51:35 clubs still exist 14:51:49 for monsters to wield 14:52:18 you'd prefer they started with eveningstars? 14:52:24 indeed 14:52:31 would be an interesting experiment to make all books besides starters randarts 14:52:44 wardens, sentinels and warlods? 14:52:44 sure 14:53:15 at least it's a source of pcloud 14:53:24 -!- gnum has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:54:12 i guess part of the problem is that only few characters will want scorps, brand spells in general are questionably useful/designed, and otr is still not so great 14:54:31 if summon scorp was more like summon bug, it could be a lot better 14:54:35 it's also interesting how falchions exist in zot 14:54:42 probably hard to balance in that many s are fast 14:55:14 !lg * killer=asterion 14:55:20 5. vince the Fencer (L15 DjFi), worshipper of Okawaru, blasted by Asterion (orb of electricity) on D:16 on 2014-02-09 08:04:07, with 75487 points after 25471 turns and 1:29:38. 14:55:21 there's a rod doing this 14:55:40 !lg * killer=asterion x=hp 14:55:40 5. [hp=-12] vince the Fencer (L15 DjFi), worshipper of Okawaru, blasted by Asterion (orb of electricity) on D:16 on 2014-02-09 08:04:07, with 75487 points after 25471 turns and 1:29:38. 14:55:41 otr is already in the other poison book anyway, poisonous cloud is in clouds which is common, scorpions is gone, poison weapon is whatever, spider form is probably fine just in changes 14:55:43 -!- rossi has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.2] 14:56:07 brand weapons could serve as upgraded versions of infusion 14:56:10 (possibly the problem is poison magic's) 14:56:14 oh hm spider form 14:56:19 -!- Blazinghand|Work has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 14:56:26 needs to be made more prominent for spider god, right 14:56:40 well I'm making an impassioned argument for improving it, or anything. Beasts is so good, yet perhaps boring 14:56:40 Beasts as in ice beast 14:57:32 -!- Chousuke has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:57:42 ice beast is a good candidate for overhaul as well; summons that always make literally the same monster are not ideal I think 14:58:16 well together with a cap, different monsters just means recasting the spell if you can do that 14:58:16 -!- Chousuke has joined ##crawl-dev 14:58:17 well it seems much more ideal than summons that don't do that 14:58:21 see call imp 14:58:29 that is the biggest offender for sure, yes 14:58:57 i'm really excited to see lightning spire in action, could be interesting 14:58:57 tesu buff 14:59:19 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:59:37 yeah I should test these given my relationship with summoning 15:00:34 New branch created: summon_spells (7 commits) 15:00:36 03MarvinPA02 07[summon_spells] * 0.14-a0-2540-gd5cb1bd: Fix cursed rings message for cases with the macabre necklace 10(25 hours ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=d5cb1bd208e4 15:00:36 03MarvinPA02 07[summon_spells] * 0.14-a0-2541-g74e9c26: Don't list Ziggurats under "Branches" on the overview screen 10(5 hours ago, 1 file, 3+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=74e9c2618cf3 15:00:36 03N7829102 {MarvinPA} 07[summon_spells] * 0.14-a0-2542-g078be70: New spell: Summon Forest (L5 Summ/Tloc) 10(3 days ago, 12 files, 81+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=078be70040a6 15:00:36 03N7829102 {MarvinPA} 07[summon_spells] * 0.14-a0-2543-ga59e054: New spell: Summon Lightning Spire (L4 Summ/Air) 10(3 days ago, 9 files, 78+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=a59e054aa921 15:00:36 03N7829102 {MarvinPA} 07[summon_spells] * 0.14-a0-2544-g208c2b9: New spell: Summon Guardian Golem (L4 Summ/Hex) 10(3 days ago, 11 files, 81+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=208c2b90d0e1 15:00:36 03N7829102 {MarvinPA} 07[summon_spells] * 0.14-a0-2545-g9758795: Tweak some of the new spells. 10(2 days ago, 2 files, 3+ 3-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=9758795dc07e 15:00:36 03MarvinPA02 07[summon_spells] * 0.14-a0-2546-gaa24343: Remove Summon Scorpions 10(5 hours ago, 22 files, 15+ 89-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=aa24343ada3b 15:00:37 -!- _fred has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 15:01:39 hm no idea what those first two are doing there 15:01:58 doh 15:02:04 rebase reasons 15:02:06 oh i didn't rebase onto master yes 15:02:10 woops 15:02:26 well, branches can easilly be recreated 15:02:32 <|amethyst> or force pushed 15:02:40 yeah that 15:04:04 03N7829102 {MarvinPA} 07[summon_spells] * 0.14-a0-2550-g3fcccda: New spell: Summon Forest (L5 Summ/Tloc) 10(3 days ago, 12 files, 81+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=3fcccda608e7 15:04:04 03N7829102 {MarvinPA} 07[summon_spells] * 0.14-a0-2551-g8caa7c3: New spell: Summon Lightning Spire (L4 Summ/Air) 10(3 days ago, 9 files, 78+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=8caa7c39debb 15:04:04 03N7829102 {MarvinPA} 07[summon_spells] * 0.14-a0-2552-gf995b71: New spell: Summon Guardian Golem (L4 Summ/Hex) 10(3 days ago, 11 files, 81+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=f995b71d0459 15:04:04 03N7829102 {MarvinPA} 07[summon_spells] * 0.14-a0-2553-g7517bb3: Tweak some of the new spells. 10(2 days ago, 2 files, 3+ 3-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=7517bb3cc075 15:04:04 03MarvinPA02 07[summon_spells] * 0.14-a0-2554-g4fb3771: Remove Summon Scorpions 10(5 hours ago, 22 files, 15+ 89-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=4fb377143d7b 15:04:06 done 15:04:22 hurrah, much better 15:04:23 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:05:59 -!- ystael_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 15:06:57 -!- gammafunk has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 15:07:50 -!- Chousuke has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:07:59 -!- Glowie has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:08:38 -!- sstrickl has quit [Quit: sstrickl] 15:14:44 |amethyst: doh, sorry about missing that :( 15:14:51 |amethyst: and thanks for fixing it! 15:17:32 Experimental (summon_spells) branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.14-a0-2554-g4fb3771 15:17:48 <|amethyst> hm 15:20:35 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 15:21:51 -!- Chousuke has joined ##crawl-dev 15:22:04 <|amethyst> why isn't it launching 15:24:06 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 15:24:25 -!- Basil has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:24:27 huh yeah 15:24:31 it works locally 15:24:42 <|amethyst> it's waiting for the socket 15:24:44 <|amethyst> I wonder 15:24:50 -!- Glowie has joined ##crawl-dev 15:25:06 Webtiles server restarted. 15:26:00 |amethyst: do you think the idea of a "restriced" set of wiz commands is worthwhile? 15:26:10 <|amethyst> works fine in webtiles 15:26:21 mostly for purposes of webtiles security, I'm thinking 15:26:38 -!- Basil has joined ##crawl-dev 15:29:06 <|amethyst> okay, weird 15:29:06 -!- BigBluFrog has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:29:26 <|amethyst> the game you start from console shows up in webtiles at the prompt 15:32:51 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 15:35:56 do gargoyles still have that weird extra gdr 15:38:12 -!- syllogism has quit [] 15:38:18 -!- archaeo has joined ##crawl-dev 15:40:59 -!- archaeo has quit [Client Quit] 15:41:07 -!- _fred has quit [Client Quit] 15:42:34 Webtiles server restarted. 15:42:36 oops 15:43:06 thankfully my epic speed run is intact 15:43:16 -!- Rjs has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:43:23 <|amethyst> gammafunk: could you save and restart? 15:43:28 <|amethyst> I just changed some directories 15:44:04 right now? 15:44:23 <|amethyst> yeah 15:44:30 hrm, it's hanging 15:44:36 screen is dimmed.... 15:44:40 oh there we go 15:44:41 <|amethyst> gammafunk: connecting from webtiles? 15:44:45 PHEW 15:44:46 yes 15:44:51 want me to go console? 15:45:04 I don't usually play webtiles 15:45:05 <|amethyst> starting from console doesn't seem to work 15:45:17 hrm 15:45:24 <|amethyst> the game launches and runs, but the script doesn't wait for it?? 15:45:52 yeah it just sits there in dgl 15:46:00 <|amethyst> it doesn't seem to create the inprogress file either 15:46:01 when I try to start the branch 15:46:38 I have a feeling you'll fix it, since I got the corrupted temple but it still had sif! 15:46:44 clearly luck on our side 15:46:51 oh 15:46:52 well 15:46:54 game just crashed 15:47:00 <|amethyst> that was probably me 15:47:16 <|amethyst> just killed a few more 15:47:20 I have a feeling I'm going to lose this save 15:47:31 and it made it to temple first try 15:47:33 <|amethyst> every time someone tries selecting it from console, it starts a new copy of crawl 15:47:34 and found sif 15:48:04 well I'll hold of playing then, let me know if I can help 15:48:28 (and don't delete my save if you can help it) 15:48:47 <|amethyst> webtiles seems to work fine 15:48:50 man I would I could lg query morgues based on what vaults they got 15:48:53 <|amethyst> I must be missing something obvious 15:49:31 <|amethyst> or really 15:49:34 <|amethyst> I think I may have it 15:49:54 <|amethyst> yes 15:50:00 <|amethyst> should work now 15:50:08 <|amethyst> inprogressdir apparently *must* end with a slash 15:50:13 success 15:50:16 in console 15:50:31 |amethyst slashes and burns... 15:50:32 <_< >_> 15:51:03 don't worry |amethyst, sif was still in the corrupted temple! your conscience is clean... 15:54:23 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:55:14 ^players 15:55:14 Banquo (L11 @ D:10, T:16053) 15:55:34 huh 15:55:37 !players 15:55:39 Cinder (L27 @ Elf:1, T:77817), thethirdjesus (L27 @ D:9, T:116903), LexAckson (L23 @ Vaults:4, T:66779), Viilla (L22 @ Vaults:5, T:53992), ThePrintersDevil (L20 @ Vaults:5, T:56453), RBrandon (L19 @ Depths:1, T:58394), razzledazzle (L19 @ Abyss:1, T:58590), Piginabag (L17 @ Snake:1, T:58182), BimmyLee (L16 @ Spider:3, T:47947), thedefinitearticle (L16 @ Depths:1, T:39481), SinCosTan (L15 @ Swamp:1, T:31698), Expolari.. 15:57:30 -!- _fred has quit [Client Quit] 15:58:08 !locateall MakMorn 15:58:10 MakMorn: CBRO 0.14-a, L16 GrFi of Zin | CSZO 0.14-a, L18 LOFi of Elyvilon 15:58:11 -!- alefury has joined ##crawl-dev 15:58:27 that game is currently running as a process on CBRO 15:58:36 but not showing up in players 15:58:37 For how long? 15:58:45 has it bene running? 15:58:52 it was there yesterday or the day before 15:59:01