00:04:15 Electrocution effect tiles by Bloax 00:04:44 -!- Android14 has joined ##crawl-dev 00:06:20 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.14-a0-2506-gc7bb754 (34) 00:06:27 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 00:06:35 Unstable branch on rl.heh.fi updated to: 0.14-a0-2506-gc7bb754 (34) 00:06:38 -!- Android14 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:14:39 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 00:15:09 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 00:15:16 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 00:15:17 -!- CKyle has quit [Client Quit] 00:17:23 -!- ereinion has quit [] 00:18:38 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.14-a0-2506-gc7bb754 (34) 00:28:52 -!- dck has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 00:29:04 -!- AlphaQ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:32:09 -!- pelotr0n has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 00:38:32 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/63152810/n/crawl/mummee.png https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/63152810/n/crawl/grdmummu.png 00:38:37 take a guess at what i'm doing 00:45:13 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 00:46:05 -!- schistosoma has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:46:42 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.14-a0-2506-gc7bb754 00:47:32 -!- Neuromancer has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:58:36 -!- jeanjacques has quit [Quit: quit] 00:59:01 Fix various issues with spectral weapon, battlesphere, and grand_avatar by gammafunk 01:06:27 -!- Kintak has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:09:53 -!- RiotInferno has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:10:21 well this is bad 01:10:46 ? 01:10:52 just a second 01:11:31 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/63152810/n/crawl/mummeepresto.png 01:11:38 -!- rax has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:11:40 and now i gotta top that for a greater mummy 01:11:49 that's gonna be rough 01:12:16 although i could just simplify this one and give it a staff 01:12:28 -!- rax has joined ##crawl-dev 01:12:28 and call it a priest and this one the greater 01:14:34 -!- Eracar has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:14:39 -!- dtsund has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:16:56 ...don't forget Khufu. 01:17:02 -!- |amethyst has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:17:53 -!- |amethyst has joined ##crawl-dev 01:18:10 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 01:23:32 -!- omnirizon has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:26:40 Grunt: Are you typing from your dreams? 01:28:59 -!- Fortescue has joined ##crawl-dev 01:29:44 well i have to say 01:29:49 this is looking less like mummies 01:30:10 and more like some kind of creepy mummy-necromancer fortress setup 01:31:27 -!- Fortescue|Home has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:34:45 jesus christ i think i did it 01:40:20 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/63152810/n/crawl/greatersacromagus.png 01:43:49 and now to think of how to overdo this one 01:50:13 -!- conted has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:51:07 makes me think of a clown 01:51:52 -!- mong has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:52:48 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/63152810/n/crawl/greatersacromagus3x.png it's not very clowny up close 01:53:08 -!- Wolfechu has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:04:49 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:10:13 -!- Stelpa has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 02:16:45 is the cdo bot down, I don't think my games are being announced 02:16:56 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.14-a0-2506-gc7bb754 (34) 02:20:35 -!- Zeor has quit [Quit: hrrgghhhh] 02:20:43 -!- nubcakes has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:21:22 ??bots 02:21:22 bots[1/2]: Bots that can be pm'd: announcement bots: Henzell (CAO, !), Gretell (CDO, @), Sizzell (CSZO, %), Lantell (CLAN, $), Ruffell (RHF, #), Rotatell (CBRO, ^); others: Varmin, Cheibriados (%), and Sequell (! ?? and others) 02:21:31 Gretell: hello 02:21:46 BlastHardcheese: are you maybe playing 4.1 02:21:53 @ping 02:22:09 @dump 02:22:10 Can't find character dump for SamB. 02:22:11 @??yak 02:22:11 yak (07Y) | Spd: 10 | HD: 7 | HP: 25-51 | AC/EV: 4/7 | Dam: 18 | Res: 06magic(28) | XP: 205 | Sz: Large | Int: animal. 02:22:38 also some milestones and games that used to be announced are no more 02:22:48 yeah no 02:23:01 !lm BlastHardcheese 02:23:01 5175. [2014-02-09 08:09:08] ShyGuy the Aerator (L16 KoCK) killed Nessos on turn 45796. (Orc:4) 02:23:02 okay I assume that's it 02:23:13 yeah nessos is unnanounced now 02:23:25 as is entering orc:4 02:23:42 -!- xnavy_ is now known as xnavy 02:24:18 why's that? 02:26:22 the botspam was getting excessive i guess 02:29:43 -!- KurzedMetal has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:30:49 !lm * uniq x=noun 02:30:51 3716806. [2014-02-09 08:30:18] [noun=Joseph] Jenx the Bludgeoner (L15 GrFi) killed Joseph on turn 27383. (Orc:3) 02:30:57 !lm * uniq x=noun 02:30:59 3716806. [2014-02-09 08:30:18] [noun=Joseph] Jenx the Bludgeoner (L15 GrFi) killed Joseph on turn 27383. (Orc:3) 02:31:03 !lm * uniq s=noun 02:31:14 3716806 milestones for * (uniq): 306639x Ijyb, 216869x Jessica, 199149x Sigmund, 185234x Terence, 155953x Blork the orc, 149631x Edmund, 135507x Crazy Yiuf, 121339x Eustachio, 120159x Dowan, 118994x Duvessa, 107003x Pikel, 93457x Prince Ribbit, 91453x Grinder, 91333x Menkaure, 82119x Joseph, 75467x Psyche, 68705x Erolcha, 68339x Grum, 65293x Erica, 64975x Harold, 64131x Maurice, 54683x Urug, 51718... 02:33:00 -!- BlackrayJack has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:33:06 -!- Basil is now known as Sage 02:45:17 New (again!) mummy tiles by Bloax 02:45:17 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 02:51:09 -!- Sgeo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:56:39 -!- minmay has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:57:58 -!- simmarine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:59:14 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:04:34 -!- minqmay has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:09:58 -!- Bloax has quit [Quit: Error: Bloax not found] 03:25:44 -!- Piginabag has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:25:51 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:42:08 -!- Blazinghand_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 03:42:39 -!- OCTOTROG has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:44:08 -!- MP2E has quit [Quit: squee!] 03:50:31 -!- PsyMar has quit [Quit: Off to Michigan!] 03:51:47 -!- gnum has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:53:09 -!- tkappleton1 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:53:39 -!- moonprincess has quit [Quit: Sayonara, Zetsubou Sensei!] 03:56:17 -!- sd1989 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 03:59:59 -!- Pacra has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:08:58 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 04:09:15 -!- lessens has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:18:06 -!- raskol has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 04:26:31 -!- magicpoints has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 04:30:01 -!- alefury has joined ##crawl-dev 04:40:13 -!- SaTaAndGee has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 04:42:35 -!- Pepe has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 04:49:17 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 04:50:06 -!- Sage has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 04:53:13 -!- SaTaAndGee has quit [Client Quit] 04:57:49 Ability menu always shows available abilities by chris 05:01:36 -!- Crehl_ has quit [Quit: qqqqqqq] 05:02:53 Remove `auto_list` option by chris 05:07:00 -!- syllogism has joined ##crawl-dev 05:30:38 desc += "\nThis is a monster-only spell, only available via the " 05:30:39 "&Z wizard command."; 05:30:45 can i just remove this whole 05:32:36 -!- yxhuvud has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:33:06 -!- lessens has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 05:36:42 when is this even called 05:36:57 ( _append_non_item for spells ) 05:37:01 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:38:17 Monster receives damage/effects in place of player? by savageorange 05:39:05 fuck yeah 05:39:07 this again 05:39:18 Probably just using old version 05:39:18 Medar: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 05:39:18 %git 48f466c 05:39:18 07Grunt02 * 0.14-a0-2430-g48f466c: Show shields on Asterion in tiles. 10(5 days ago, 1 file, 5+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=48f466c3fb9f 05:39:24 yeah 05:39:58 I'll close it 05:40:03 thanks 05:40:49 %git 6b3afca 05:40:49 07Medar02 * 0.14-a0-2432-g6b3afca: Fix curare source and target being switched. (wheals) 10(5 days ago, 2 files, 2+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=6b3afca1b37b 05:41:05 2 commits after 05:41:26 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 05:41:41 Right, good 05:42:07 oh wait 05:42:07 -!- thug_lessons has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 05:42:29 also, in art-func.h on line 824 defender and attacker should be switched 05:42:46 as an effect of that commit 05:45:29 -!- eith has joined ##crawl-dev 05:46:02 -!- RZX has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:53:15 03Medar02 07* 0.14-a0-2507-g2a6e878: Fix Snakebite curare affecting the user instead of target. (wheals) 10(8 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=2a6e878bc9b8 05:58:20 Remove (apparently?) unused code writing to spell descriptions by chris 05:58:20 Two spaces and a removal by chris 05:58:22 -!- herself has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.1] 06:07:29 -!- lessens has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 06:07:59 -!- LordSloth has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:12:11 -!- Xiberia has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:12:43 -!- Xiberia has joined ##crawl-dev 06:15:17 -!- lessens has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 06:15:43 -!- thug_lessons is now known as lessens 06:27:23 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:31:29 -!- conted has quit [Quit: Page closed] 06:32:50 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 06:37:08 -!- bmfx has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 06:45:16 -!- horsik_ is now known as horsik 06:55:30 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 07:04:20 -!- Hailley has quit [Quit: Petra is closed!] 07:06:45 -!- MarvinPA_ has joined ##crawl-dev 07:07:11 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 07:09:55 -!- MarvinPA_ is now known as MarvinPA 07:28:20 -!- ZebTM has quit [] 07:29:33 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:31:32 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 07:35:36 !tell dpeg https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=10899 seems worth a look i think 07:35:37 MarvinPA: OK, I'll let dpeg know. 07:43:57 Race: I think racial items should be removed entirely 07:44:03 also this seems worth a look 07:48:53 -!- lessens has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 07:55:23 -!- thug_lessons has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:56:56 -!- zxc232 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 07:57:26 -!- bmfx has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 08:10:28 Webtiles server restarted. 08:11:30 Webtiles server restarted. 08:15:07 -!- Brokkr has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 08:23:26 -!- ainsophyao has joined ##crawl-dev 08:24:34 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 08:29:07 -!- bmfx has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:35:03 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 08:35:45 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 08:36:59 -!- magicpoints has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 08:37:06 -!- Zaba has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:52:41 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:53:45 -!- Zaba has joined ##crawl-dev 09:19:19 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 09:20:00 -!- tsohg has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:21:43 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 09:22:38 -!- DrinkMachine has joined ##crawl-dev 09:27:18 -!- hoody has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:28:15 -!- Zaba has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:28:53 -!- Zaba has joined ##crawl-dev 09:32:29 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:33:28 -!- Escalator has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:39:17 -!- Escalator has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 09:41:19 03|amethyst02 07* 0.14-a0-2508-g6abd75b: Allow Nemelex worshippers to sacrifice misc items again. 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 3-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=6abd75bc2e4f 09:48:03 -!- raskol has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 09:48:44 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 09:57:50 03|amethyst02 07* 0.14-a0-2509-g6a3835b: Make Ignite Poison affect poison clouds again (#8115) 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 4+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=6a3835bcdbc3 10:00:19 has anyone had a chance to look at the swamp layout I put on mantis (8092)? 10:02:18 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:02:25 if not, could someone do that so it doesn't rot 10:06:03 -!- Wolfechu has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:11:16 -!- TAS-2012v has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:12:23 -!- tksquared has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:20:27 -!- dck has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 10:21:03 -!- Grujah has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:21:57 -!- Hi is now known as Guest92321 10:22:18 -!- NilsBloodaxe has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:23:30 -!- Guest92321 has quit [Client Quit] 10:27:49 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 10:28:38 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 10:29:01 -!- Tuxedo[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 10:29:31 ontoclasm: What do you think about hell- er, the 'mummies'? 10:30:38 -!- Neuromancer has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:30:58 -!- lessens has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:34:01 <|amethyst> gammafunk: your avatar alignment patch only handles charms, but there's also discord, pacification, etc 10:34:30 <|amethyst> gammafunk: also, try to keep your commit messages formatted to 72 columns, because git log indents it by a tab 10:35:31 oh i'll do that in the future too, i usually keep it aligned to 79 columns 10:39:10 -!- Naphistim has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:40:30 wheals: #8122 doesn't let you take off armour with a cursed cloak 10:40:53 not sure if there are any other cases it misses 10:42:12 wow huh i thought i checked that 10:43:31 oh i see, specifically taking off 10:43:59 i think there's also other bits of related code that should be removed with it, too 10:44:20 cloak_is_being_removed() at least 10:44:50 possibly just that 10:46:01 it seems takeoff_armour basically duplicates do_wear_armour, how sad 10:46:19 yes, equipment stuff is fun 10:46:31 <|amethyst> gammafunk: I'm applying the other two, and the asterion tweak, though 10:46:36 it gets even better when it comes to slot restrictions 10:47:15 03gammafunk02 {|amethyst} 07* 0.14-a0-2510-g5c913e8: Fix seek/wandering behaviour of spectral weapons and battlespheres. 10(5 days ago, 6 files, 62+ 43-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=5c913e886569 10:47:15 03gammafunk02 {|amethyst} 07* 0.14-a0-2511-ga0d116c: Don't penalize monster's spectral weapons with half hd. 10(16 hours ago, 2 files, 3+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=a0d116cb567c 10:47:15 03gammafunk02 {|amethyst} 07* 0.14-a0-2512-g99fcc2e: Lose Asterion's shield and designate signature weapons. 10(16 hours ago, 2 files, 7+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=99fcc2ecabcf 10:47:15 03ChrisOelmueller02 {|amethyst} 07* 0.14-a0-2513-g915b839: A bit of padding for book/rod names in ?/s 10(5 hours ago, 1 file, 6+ 6-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=915b839501d4 10:47:15 03ChrisOelmueller02 {|amethyst} 07* 0.14-a0-2514-gd9dbeb1: Remove special message handling for book+rod spells 10(5 hours ago, 1 file, 4+ 10-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=d9dbeb1a4195 10:47:15 03ChrisOelmueller02 {|amethyst} 07* 0.14-a0-2515-g8afba6d: A bit of padding for known items in \ autopickup screen 10(5 hours ago, 1 file, 3+ 3-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=8afba6d1b645 10:47:15 03ChrisOelmueller02 {|amethyst} 07* 0.14-a0-2516-g151ae2e: Remove unused code writing to spell descriptions 10(5 hours ago, 1 file, 0+ 40-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=151ae2ed11f6 10:48:33 also there doesn't seems to be s rule whether case lines should be on the same column as the switch or not 10:48:50 this file alone has both 10:48:56 "yes except when no" 10:49:00 also thanks for patches 10:49:32 as you probably guessed i won't add an option for things 10:51:20 <|amethyst> an option might not be the best way 10:52:06 <|amethyst> I don't know, maybe I'm worried too much about the extra distraction etc from flashing the screen every time a healer does aa 10:53:09 healer probably wants a macro for that 10:53:14 -!- alefury has quit [] 10:53:15 and macro shouldn't flash i hope? 10:53:39 there's the valid concern about ` key being bugged with healers (and other stuff) in particular though 10:54:01 so macro with e.g. aaf wouldn't always do the job 10:54:10 and manually bringing up the screen many times would still flash, yes 10:54:16 <|amethyst> Not everyone uses macros 10:54:26 <|amethyst> I just put things on convenient keys and double-tap 10:54:31 <|amethyst> zz aa za az etc 10:55:33 <|amethyst> But I can definitely see your option being helpful for new players learning the game at the very least 10:55:45 <|amethyst> which could even suggest making it the default 10:55:51 i'm aware this thing is controversial, and in fact i posted it in here a bit ago for discussion 10:56:11 <|amethyst> was there any? I missed it and don't always follow the scrollback 10:56:16 nobody outright hated it back then (which has been a bit) so it can be on mantis at least 10:56:35 no i don't remember but it's been at least two weeks 10:58:29 if planning on also doing this for spells, probably an option can't be avoided though 10:58:46 won't get away with thing such as that 11:03:07 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 11:12:55 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 11:13:18 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.14-a0-2516-g151ae2e (34) 11:13:30 -!- dck has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 11:17:13 -!- sstrickl has quit [Read error: No route to host] 11:18:06 -!- jcd748 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:18:48 -!- Yermak has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:22:40 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 11:23:53 -!- rossi has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.2] 11:31:28 -!- twelwe has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:31:34 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 11:33:19 -!- Tuxedo[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:33:31 Bloax: sorry, but i'm not really a fan :( 11:33:47 the vanilla mummy looks okay but the others are way less distinctive than the current versions 11:34:20 what, not stereotypical ancient egypt enough 11:35:11 well, kind of, but also yours are just sort of guys with blobs of random colors on them 11:35:29 like... if not ancient egypt, what was the theme you were going for? 11:36:18 http://images.wikia.com/mightandmagic/en/images/archive/f/f7/20090921120736!HOMM5_PC_042_necropolis_town_1280.jpg edgy edgy necromancers 11:36:21 except mummies 11:36:33 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 11:37:10 -!- minmay has joined ##crawl-dev 11:38:03 well, "edgy" doesn't have to mean "indistinct" 11:38:27 mostly i can't even tell what's going on in yours, aside from "guy with purple on his hands" 11:38:41 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 11:39:28 the basic mummy you've got is clearly a mummy, since you can tell he's got bandages on 11:39:48 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:40:15 the guard i guess is a mummy in armour, but it took me a while of staring to see that, since the armour is very close in color to the rest of him 11:40:50 03|amethyst02 07* 0.14-a0-2517-g6f90349: Don't leak information on out-of-sight squares in xv (#8109) 10(12 minutes ago, 1 file, 4+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=6f90349bad97 11:41:01 the existing guard mummy is sort of bad, but you can instantly see the armor at least 11:41:33 is the contrast not high enough on the armor 11:41:41 because it sure is pretty insane 11:42:19 well, contrast by itself isn't enough to make things resolve 11:42:34 it helps, of course 11:42:59 but dark-grey on dark-grey-brown isn't going to stick out a lot 11:43:45 and part of what helps make a shape stand out is big, unbroken chunks of colour, which the ramour doesn't really have 11:44:16 your priest is a bit better about that; the robes have big bars and so you can see them a bit more easily 11:44:18 am i really that blessed with vision 11:44:48 -!- Superterranean has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:44:51 because the armor has a clear, faint red tint to it that the bandages don't have 11:44:52 maybe? i mean, partly i'm sure you can see it because you made it, and know it's armor 11:45:26 yeah, not obvious to me at all 11:45:36 if anything that just makes it more similar to the bandages 11:46:47 Bloax: here's what I don't like about your tiles: your guardian mummy tile uses 64 different colours 11:46:54 Bloax: the best tile I've ever drawn used 6 11:47:02 -!- clouded_ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 11:47:02 remember that this is going to be on a big, busy, dark screen 11:47:19 busy, dark monsters aren't gonna show up 11:47:39 no matter what subtle things are going on 11:48:24 number of colours doesn't really bother me, even if i do only use 10 or so generally 11:48:39 i brush out my sprites 11:48:49 i know, that's why it doesn't bother me 11:49:19 but they still need to be bright and colorful, even when that doesn't seem "thematic" 11:49:24 -!- Tuxedo[Qyou] has quit [Quit: Excess flood] 11:50:34 anyway, i've gotta go eat, i'll be back later 11:50:50 Medar: I notice that when I save my own game, the save dialogue mentions the name of the last player I spectated instead of my own. 11:50:56 thanks for making them, in any case! 11:51:08 gammafunk: Oh, it's not supposed to show up at all 11:51:28 -!- Neuromancer has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:51:50 don't give up on them; i really like the base you're using 11:51:59 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:52:13 Medar: Need me to file a mantis report? 11:52:18 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 11:52:43 That would be nice 11:53:08 %git 11:53:08 07|amethyst02 * 0.14-a0-2517-g6f90349: Don't leak information on out-of-sight squares in xv (#8109) 10(24 minutes ago, 1 file, 4+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=6f90349bad97 11:54:52 When saving in WebTiles, it incorrectly displays a dialogue by gammafunk 11:57:48 -!- Lightli has joined ##crawl-dev 11:57:51 !lm TheHangedMan 11:57:52 58. [2014-02-09 17:54:05] TheHangedMan the Markscentaur (L16 CeBe) left the Snake Pit on turn 34031. (Snake:1) 11:58:04 Truly hangedman, or an imposter?! 11:59:29 imposter 11:59:43 -!- tsohg has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:59:46 I asked; he isn't <_< 11:59:47 he's not _the_ hangedman 12:01:48 Grunt: Not sure if you care that much about the grand avatar issue I mention in 0008124. It can't seek out its owner when said owner teleports away 12:02:07 -!- Escalator has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 12:02:32 Warmonger no longer keep making tons of avatars when they get enslaved, at least 12:02:53 -!- Akien has joined ##crawl-dev 12:03:06 <|amethyst> gammafunk: was that in one of the two I did pick? 12:03:07 -!- ebarrett has quit [] 12:03:09 There's another issue where it seems that the ENCH_GRAND_AVATAR enchantment doesn't seem to expire on the caster in some cases 12:03:13 |amethyst: yes 12:03:16 <|amethyst> aha 12:03:19 Hi 12:03:21 -!- Grujah has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:03:39 |amethyst: regarding the one you didn't commit, I handle ENCH_CHARM (enslavement) and wacking a friendly monster, but 12:03:41 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:03:46 how to handle the other cases you mention? 12:03:55 <|amethyst> I'm not really sure 12:03:55 discord is perhaps tricky 12:04:03 make the avatar go away since the caster is 'insane'? 12:04:17 <|amethyst> the caster's going to attack it anyway :) 12:04:39 -!- tsohg has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:04:39 ah, yeah even if we make the avatar insane that's true :p 12:05:03 hrm, for pacification, I think perhaps it also should go away 12:05:16 <|amethyst> another thing I was worried about were the attitude changes when the charm wears off 12:05:36 yes, that patch specifically handles ENCH_CHARM on and wearing off 12:05:39 and I've tested that 12:05:41 <|amethyst> what if the caster isn't returning to hostile, but to some other attitude 12:05:45 <|amethyst> is that even possible? 12:06:10 hrm....I supposed if they were charmed and got pacified 12:06:26 I guess I'll have to muck around and find the corner cases 12:06:33 shouldn't be too bad to handle though 12:07:04 <|amethyst> does this fixup get applied before or after the summoner's attitude change? 12:08:06 It's after the attitude change 12:08:26 although nothing about the avatar attitude change depends on the caster's current attitude afaik 12:08:35 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:08:44 <|amethyst> then you could use SAME_ATTITUDE there 12:09:02 oh, and sorry 12:09:17 the fix of grand avatar spam is not currently applied (when the caster is charmed) 12:09:25 forgot it was part of that commit 12:09:32 <|amethyst> that's why I asked 12:09:45 yeah, sorry, but that part doesn't depend on the other aspects 12:09:53 it just fixes the add enchant loop 12:11:27 I recall that charmed monsters that got the ENCH_GRAND_AVATAR seemed to get stuck with it while they were friendly (in wiz mode x F) so that they never cast avatar again 12:11:39 but they began casting again when I made them hostile 12:12:10 not sure why that happens, but it's a pretty obscure case that won't happen in practice really 12:12:15 -!- Tuxedo[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 12:14:28 |amethyst: hrm, so if I catch all the cases where there's a monster attitude change, I could simply have something like a single monster::align_avatars() found them and set their attitude to SAME_ATTITUDE(this)? 12:15:00 I guess it'd be nice if setting mons->attitude just always called this somehow 12:15:01 <|amethyst> gammafunk: working on part of that now 12:15:05 <|amethyst> gammafunk: the common function 12:15:06 ok, great 12:15:21 <|amethyst> gammafunk: but I am not (currently) working on catching all the cases :) 12:15:32 <|amethyst> I did have a question about a difference 12:15:57 <|amethyst> is it intentional that you only remove the grand avatar enchant for non-summoners in the make-hostile case and not the make-friendly case? 12:16:54 yes, since afaik the avatar will continue to mimic the now-unaligned monster's attacks 12:16:58 <|amethyst> I haven't really kept up on how that enchantment works 12:16:59 If I don't do that 12:19:55 <|amethyst> what does it mean if the summoner is a different monster? 12:20:15 <|amethyst> I mean, when does that happen? 12:20:33 hrm, looks like you're right though; the enchant would keep existing for the now-friendly monster 12:20:45 <|amethyst> so it should be removed in both cases? 12:20:49 which is bad since the avatar might mimic its attacks (even though the avatar is hostile) 12:20:58 <|amethyst> err, the del_ench should be done in both cases I mean? 12:21:08 yeah, I think so, although I'm going to look at the trigger 12:22:33 -!- tsohg_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:24:34 <|amethyst> gammafunk: mons_att_changed 12:24:47 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 12:25:31 <|amethyst> gammafunk: except not everything calls that.... 12:25:55 ah, yes I was looking at that at one point 12:26:04 yes, the charm code perhaps doesn't? 12:26:55 oh, yes it does, the part I was thinking of anyway 12:28:00 <|amethyst> good god holy attitude change doesn't 12:28:10 <|amethyst> orc conversion doesn't 12:28:11 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:28:22 <|amethyst> oh wait 12:28:34 <|amethyst> they do, it's just further down in the function 12:28:58 Yes, regarding the enchant, it seems the trigger_grand_avatar function just looks to see if monster has the ENCH_GRAND_AVATAR enchant, so probably any attitude change for a monster with ENCH_GRAND_AVATAR should result in said monster losing that enchant 12:29:41 -!- Tuxedo[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:30:25 oh, gah, if the summoner's alignment changes but not monster in los... 12:30:44 seems like the trigger_grand_avatar function needs an alignment check 12:31:25 perhaps it 1) not trigger if the alignment of calling monster and avatar mismatch and 2) remove the enchant in this case as well 12:32:20 then we only need to worry about calling monster::align_avatar() when the summoner's attitude changes 12:33:28 <|amethyst> hm 12:33:47 well it would still get called if the non-summoner had an align change, but it wouldn't touch the avatar, simply remove its enchant 12:33:50 <|amethyst> sounds like it needs more work, so I'll let you do that without having to worry about merging my stuff 12:33:59 ok 12:34:02 <|amethyst> (it's not finished anyway) 12:34:27 <|amethyst> but basically I was merging make_avatar_{hostile,friendly} into change_avatar_attitude which used the monster's attitude 12:35:11 <|amethyst> also, had the function do nothing if the attitudes are the same 12:35:39 <|amethyst> but I'm not sure about the logic for the grand avatar case there 12:35:58 and called from mons_att_changed()? 12:36:21 <|amethyst> I hadn't gotten that far, but that was the idea 12:36:41 almost seems like that function should be in the monster class 12:36:45 <|amethyst> and then have everything that doesn't already call that function do so 12:37:08 <|amethyst> possibly, yes 12:37:27 <|amethyst> it also sounds like something IWBNT lua 12:37:46 <|amethyst> s/lua/call back into lua from/ 12:38:04 <|amethyst> but that's not something for now :) 12:38:09 -!- tenofswords has joined ##crawl-dev 12:39:07 <|amethyst> gammafunk: hm... except I think plenty of places I should have been using temp_attitude() anyway 12:39:50 Well I can check that out and make another patch maybe tomorrow, if you don't get to it before then 12:39:57 thanks for the help as always 12:40:03 <|amethyst> I probably won't, so thank you 12:40:14 <|amethyst> s/thank/go ahead; and thank/ 12:41:38 -!- omnirizon has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:45:31 Repel Missiles spell not expiring by MorganLeah 12:48:14 Good bug. 12:49:02 fr not a bug 12:49:52 <|amethyst> actually, it may be a bug 12:50:29 <|amethyst> yeah, I just got a "_The orc shoots an arrow. The arrow is repelled." but the enchantment counter didn't go down 12:50:31 %git HEAD^{/Repel} 12:50:31 07argonaut02 {MarvinPA} * 0.14-a0-2499-g8db4b04: Give Repel/Deflect missiles a chance to expire per deflection instead of a duration 10(13 days ago, 9 files, 49+ 9-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=8db4b0499025 12:50:35 oh 12:50:35 okay 12:50:45 <|amethyst> ohh 12:50:47 |amethyst: it doesn't go down, it has a- 12:50:47 <|amethyst> it's a chance 12:50:48 yeah 12:51:08 i'm not sure how good the chances are right now, they might well need to be adjusted 12:51:13 <|amethyst> one notable thing is that this char had a buckler 12:51:22 <|amethyst> so probably was blocking a lot of shots anyway 12:52:22 <|amethyst> still, I've repelled six or seven missiles and it hasn't ticked down at all 12:52:25 <|amethyst> and it's currently at 20 12:52:52 <|amethyst> ohhh 12:53:06 i guess maybe this wasn't the clearest way of implementing it :P 12:53:07 <|amethyst> a chance to go to zero; okay, that makes more sense 12:53:41 possibly it should just expire outright once it fails the one_chance_in(attr) check 12:54:21 then there'd be no need for a duration at all i think? 12:54:29 you know what would be nice? if casting freezing cloud didn't break autoexplore 12:54:31 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:54:39 !lm minqmay 12:54:40 20858. [2014-02-09 18:50:00] minmay the Aerator (L15 MuAE) killed Erica on turn 50742. (D:12) 12:55:12 every air magic spell must have at least one drawback 12:55:50 be lucky it's just something as minor as that and not like lightning bolt's drawback being "is a shitty spell" 12:56:09 <|amethyst> it doesn't if you have icemail :/ 12:56:30 more seriously though, is it really useful for the map to remember clouds? they already get exclusions when they come from vaults (except for all the vaults where someone went through and broke them, but you get the idea) 12:56:41 minmay: There is supposed to be a thing where it goes back to check whether the cloud is gone, but it doesn't seem to work always 12:56:58 well if you're going to be passive aggresive about it 12:56:58 tenofswords: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 12:57:33 -!- ainsophyao has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:57:54 %git 6df46bc 12:57:54 07DracoOmega02 * 0.12-a0-2787-g6df46bc: Improve autoexplore behavior regarding temporary obstructions 10(11 months ago, 2 files, 85+ 36-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=6df46bca66ba 12:58:43 <|amethyst> there were several bugs and unfortunate behaviours with that 12:58:51 <|amethyst> one of the fixes may have broken that part 13:00:42 fsim weapon accuracy not affected by armour/shield penalties by crate 13:00:53 Do you know who I should contact for website matters? (namely for crawl's download page) 13:00:53 ah right, I was distracted from this last time I was going to change things by wondering whether or not it'd be a good idea to have a teleporter at the end of ice caves instead of an exit to avoid the annoyance of making it through freezing clouds regardless of autotravel working or not 13:01:25 why would you have to go back if you had an exit 13:01:35 potions left at the start! 13:02:03 and not every ice cave even has an exit at the "end" 13:02:08 yeah 13:02:40 well you can also fix the vault thing by just changing excl_rad to 0 wherever it's -1 (except steam) 13:03:13 <|amethyst> Akien: here's good, what's up? 13:03:57 |amethyst: I see there are references to Debian and Fedora packags, I'd like to have Mageia's official package (which I maintain) referenced too 13:04:18 s/packags/packages/ 13:04:29 and a bunch more of these were centered around a cloud's generator never disappearing short of either fire/cold or fan of gales 13:04:50 <|amethyst> Akien: hm, we haven't usually listed official packages there 13:05:18 <|amethyst> Akien: maybe we should, but I don't think it would make sense to do so for just Mageia 13:06:41 and a bunch further are in hells 13:07:30 the use of dangerous cloud generators at all is questionable really I guess 13:08:12 yes, yes, in how they're not assoicated with something the player can attack and do not serve consistent threats or provide things that can be automated through 13:08:40 I'm still stabbing through this anyway, give me a minute 13:08:41 |amethyst: I understand. I don't really know if many distros have crawl in their official repos, IIRC I made mine from scratch back when I was learning packaging 13:09:07 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:09:32 <|amethyst> Akien: Debian does, so probably a lot of the derivatives do 13:09:48 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/63152810/Screenies/dumb/fierystairsofdeath.png cloud generators can be used in very interesting and not at all outright bad ways 13:10:09 |amethyst: Indeed 13:10:14 anyway I think not remembering clouds, or at the very least not remembering clouds that don't cause exclusions, would be a good start 13:10:50 |amethyst: openSUSE too it seems. So yes it wouldn't be particularly relevant to list Mageia if other big distros are not listed 13:11:01 -!- Tuxedo[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:13:30 <|amethyst> still, I agree that it would be nice to list our downstreams somewhere 13:14:06 <|amethyst> Including CREDITS.txt but probably also the web site 13:19:28 -!- bh has joined ##crawl-dev 13:19:33 !seen dpeg 13:19:33 I last saw dpeg at Fri Feb 7 02:32:12 2014 UTC (2d 16h 47m 21s ago) quitting, saying 'Quit: Lost terminal'. 13:19:37 -!- bh has quit [Client Quit] 13:19:55 -!- Basil has joined ##crawl-dev 13:31:00 03tenofswords02 07* 0.14-a0-2518-gc817209: Set most 'excl_rad = -1' to 0 10(7 minutes ago, 7 files, 18+ 18-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=c817209be36d 13:31:30 -!- Neuromancer has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:33:21 tenofswords: no change to icecaves? 13:34:35 -!- stuntaneous has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 13:34:36 that requires more than a few minutes of effort 13:34:53 e.g. I will mull over it and possibly randomly change things in a week 13:35:14 good design plan 13:35:58 -!- Aryth has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:36:18 speaking of mulling things over, you should ruin v:$ 13:36:51 1learn add marvinpa you should ruin[...] 13:36:53 <_< 13:37:07 -!- eith|3 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:37:10 ruining the silver ruin 13:37:34 unfortunately tenofswords beat him to ruining the decaying rune 13:38:00 ??top_ruiners 13:38:00 I don't have a page labeled top_ruiners in my learndb. 13:38:23 MarvinPA, at some point I'd love to hear your thoughts on the first commit on wrath-reform and/or Glaciate versions and/or possibly the commit on effect-timer (which is really more of a technical change). Take your time to inform yourself first, though, of course. 13:38:25 -!- Basil has quit [Read error: No route to host] 13:38:34 -!- eith|2 has joined ##crawl-dev 13:38:42 %git show wrath-reform^^^^ 13:38:42 Could not find commit show wrath-reform^^^^ (git returned 128) 13:38:46 %git wrath-reform^^^^ 13:38:46 07Grunt02 * 0.14-a0-2444-g92394c1: Make divine wrath contingent on XP gain. 10(5 days ago, 4 files, 48+ 22-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=92394c17f387 13:38:51 (that's the relevant commit) 13:38:54 how about antiruining the rod of destruction! 13:38:57 -!- Basil has joined ##crawl-dev 13:39:04 %git wrath-reform~4 13:39:05 07Grunt02 * 0.14-a0-2444-g92394c1: Make divine wrath contingent on XP gain. 10(5 days ago, 4 files, 48+ 22-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=92394c17f387 13:39:10 that also works :) 13:39:30 good tech 13:39:36 ??secret_tech 13:39:36 secret tech[1/10]: ogee 13:39:37 do people even notice antiruining vaults 13:39:51 ??tech 13:39:51 tech ~ teck[1/1]: don't tell anyone if you play this 13:39:55 haha 13:39:58 Hahaha. 13:39:59 did people rejoice when I reduced mottled dragons in fire swamp 13:40:20 1learn goodlearndbsearch 13:40:39 they probably attributed the lower number to clustering illusion 13:40:53 i'm not sure i'd have much of a useful opinion on the technical effects-timer stuff (i am very much in favour of the change generally though) 13:41:10 well in a vault where you have to drop all your scrolls anyway, mottled dragons dont bother you much 13:41:13 and yeah will definitely take a look at the other two at some point 13:42:20 when I reduced the number of oldsalamanders in firesnake by placing some lindwurms instead 13:43:02 oh, is that the precedence for random 'l' monsters spawning in snake 13:43:08 precedent* 13:43:27 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 13:44:08 i thought l were removed 13:44:42 they were, I think 13:44:47 Grunt: at very brief glance i'd say maybe they should be shortened slightly across the board, since the effects are more likely to be happening at relevant times? ash wrath is 2xls right? 13:44:53 i just always wondered where the idea came from 13:46:46 they were still removed 13:46:51 and i think ash wrath works pretty well/is a decent length, maybe ~2-4 xls is an okay range for wraths 13:47:33 secret tech: abandon ash as a formicid 13:47:48 I thought non-poison non-slow non-constricting monsters for Snake to serve as more fodder when it still needed fodder was a completely understandable idea but who cares 13:48:13 especially with basilisk and lindwurm as both snakey things 13:48:14 i liked them 13:50:29 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:54:12 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:54:59 -!- Tuxedo[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:58:01 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 14:00:44 -!- Tuxedo[Qyou] has quit [Quit: Excess flood] 14:00:47 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 14:01:12 -!- Crehl has quit [Quit: qqqqqqq] 14:06:04 http://sprunge.us/LIEY 14:06:28 kind of tempted to ask somebody else to pull the trigger here, even after that write-up 14:06:34 -!- valtern has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:06:45 haha, so that is happening then 14:06:57 i think that will be pretty grim but i guess we'll see 14:07:02 maybe another dev will speak up! 14:07:23 for now I'm just going to leave that there, as I am bad about doing 14:07:26 i will happily trigger-pull if you like! 14:07:51 tenofswords: Are you open to the idea of trying (again) to randomize some of hall_of_zot layout? 14:08:05 get some of that delicious credit on ruining things as you like, marvinpa 14:08:10 bring back gigantic item mimics 14:08:18 do you mean monstrous 14:08:27 yeah that sounds right 14:08:33 gammafunk: hrm. 14:08:45 it's no easy task, I'm sure 14:08:54 I think the layout_halls is really "enough" 14:09:12 perhaps better to focus on ends that need more work, anyhow 14:09:23 unless some brilliant execution appears out of the blue 14:09:24 tenofswords: could it at least have... serifs, for lack of a better word 14:09:52 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:10:16 I briefly experimented with this but it wasn't that much greatly better, though I understand the appeal of at least keeping some corners for LOS 14:10:37 also it looks worse :P 14:10:37 hm 14:10:45 well, yeah i guess 14:11:27 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.14-a0-2519-g2294cc4: Don't draw random Abyss spawns from other branches 10(5 hours ago, 2 files, 5+ 55-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=2294cc43dd8b 14:11:27 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.14-a0-2520-g2b0288b: Don't arc electricity when attacking with an elec weapon in water 10(3 hours ago, 8 files, 24+ 187-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=2b0288b01787 14:11:27 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.14-a0-2521-g2167526: Adjust missile acquirement, don't look at inventory items 10(4 hours ago, 1 file, 4+ 17-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=2167526f6468 14:11:27 03wheals02 {MarvinPA} 07* 0.14-a0-2522-gc787378: Remove arbitrary gear slot connections. 10(18 hours ago, 1 file, 17+ 122-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=c787378166d7 14:11:27 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.14-a0-2523-g0aaafda: Make an octopode-specific jewellery message octopode-specific again 10(2 hours ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=0aaafda4745b 14:11:27 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.14-a0-2524-g592e021: Turn Portal Projectile into a duration 10(37 minutes ago, 13 files, 50+ 39-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=592e02136c47 14:11:27 03tenofswords02 {MarvinPA} 07* 0.14-a0-2525-gb6c2c79: Remove Vaults:$'s outside border ring 10(23 minutes ago, 1 file, 54+ 56-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=b6c2c797741a 14:12:23 -!- MakMorn has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 14:12:48 -!- valtern has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 14:13:23 oh no, a period was added to one of my comments! 14:13:26 heaps of praise for abyss guests removal 14:13:32 "No! No!" 14:13:51 I worried about it needing save compat conservation 14:14:10 MarvinPA: for the record, I remember suggesting portal projectile as a duration at some point :b 14:14:28 yeah it's probably an old idea 14:14:32 there are some bugs with portal projectile for monsters, by the way 14:14:44 i just happened to see it in ##crawl yesterday and realised it probably wasn't too hard to implement 14:14:53 -!- Akien has quit [Quit: Quitte] 14:15:06 like how monsters by default switch to melee if they don't have a clear shot even when, say, the shot is smiting targetted 14:16:48 -!- MakMorn has joined ##crawl-dev 14:17:35 Is vashnia the only monster with portal projectile 14:17:44 Vashnia (11N) | Spd: 8 (act: 80%) | HD: 16 | HP: 160 | AC/EV: 6/18 | Dam: 25, 25, 703(constrict) | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, master archer, spellcaster, see invisible | Res: 06magic(128), 03poison | Chunks: 09poison | XP: 2147 | Sp: portal projectile, blink allies away, blink away, 04esc:blink other | Sz: Large | Int: normal. 14:17:44 %??vashnia 14:17:44 naga sharpshooter (15N) | Spd: 8 (act: 80%) | HD: 9 | HP: 59-85 | AC/EV: 6/10 | Dam: 17, 17, 503(constrict) | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, master archer, spellcaster, see invisible | Res: 06magic(72), 03poison | Chunks: 09poison | XP: 766 | Sp: portal projectile | Sz: Large | Int: normal. 14:17:44 %??naga sharpshooter 14:18:31 hrm, they switch to melee when they have a clear shot...centaurs don't do that as I recall 14:18:36 *don't have a clear shot 14:19:16 is this when they're obstructed by player-friendly monsters? 14:19:54 or is it that they're not actually switching to melee, but simply aren't using PP 14:20:29 there may be some awkwardness combined with portal projectile as a spell versus the equipment slots themselves 14:24:05 -!- valtern has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 14:32:14 -!- valtern has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:35:09 -!- tsohg has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:39:47 -!- valtern has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:40:27 -!- tsohg has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 14:48:24 -!- jmbto has joined ##crawl-dev 14:48:57 -!- crate has joined ##crawl-dev 14:55:18 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:56:31 -!- roctavian has joined ##crawl-dev 14:57:33 -!- Basil has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 14:59:30 MarvinPA: I'll probably commit a more-frequently-occurring version of the XP wrath thing shortly. 14:59:52 (in addition to effect-timer, which it works especially well with) 15:00:05 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 15:00:35 slimerobin (L20 SpEn) (Elf:3) 15:00:43 !crashlog slimerobin 15:00:43 1. slimerobin, XL20 SpEn, T:45324 (milestone): http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/slimerobin/crash-slimerobin-20140209-210031.txt 15:02:22 ...and then maybe I'll update the changelog and make another "here's what's new in trunk" post! 15:02:50 -!- Basil has joined ##crawl-dev 15:08:35 * Grunt finds some amusing bugs in effect-timer... good thing he's testing this! 15:09:52 I wonder, does anyone have a good idea for a system where every commit creats a little page where players can up/down vote and post comments? 15:10:14 that seems like a potentially awful idea 15:10:32 r/dcsscommits 15:10:36 not particularly unless you want to be more specfic 15:11:04 we don't censor ##crawl, for instance 15:11:17 and the commiter is free to ignore the comments/votes 15:12:13 it'd still be another official interface for more people to be awful on 15:12:16 that sounds like a really bad idea yes 15:12:36 yeah, I guess it's wishful thinking 15:12:54 gammafunk, sounds like gerrit to me? 15:13:00 but yes, people will be awful 15:13:34 fr: make people not awful 15:13:36 if anything I'd prefer to lower the official connections to most of the current "communities" 15:13:55 why 15:14:18 most of them are more detrimental than beneficial for welcoming new players 15:14:22 the only official things are tavern and ##crawl-dev no? 15:14:40