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'Nyo.'"] 00:35:02 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 00:42:31 -!- twelwe has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:42:35 -!- axlexk has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:48:03 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 00:56:49 -!- ufd has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 01:02:57 |amethyst: any idea how this happened: http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/Sky/morgue-Sky-20131226-064652.txt 01:07:00 yes 01:07:06 he was pushed into deep water and then he took actions and died because his tornado expired 01:07:37 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection timed out] 01:09:30 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 01:10:11 so the comment above _decrement_a_duration() is a lie? 01:10:40 or, why didn't it print "You are starting to lose your buoyancy." 01:10:51 tornado flight isnt strong flight 01:10:57 its already in the second phase 01:11:15 hence why even casting it produces magenta color fly instead of brightmangenta color fly 01:11:40 he should get a warning about flying above water while it's expiring 01:11:40 what does that mean exactly? 01:12:03 normally flying has two phases 01:12:08 flying, and expiring flying 01:12:23 when youre flying over water and it goes into expiring flight, you get the Careful! message 01:12:32 but tornado never puts you in flying status, just expiring flying 01:12:51 kilobyte: well he should, but currently you dont get messages when your flight is expiring and you perform actions 01:13:03 should as in fr 01:13:46 but, but, how does land_player get called without the message printing? 01:14:03 i dont know what land_player does 01:14:15 or what message youre referring to 01:14:17 what message? 01:14:45 <|amethyst> SamB: _decrement_a_duration prints the message only at midpoint 01:14:56 ah 01:15:16 so the comment is a lie 01:15:41 er, no, there's supposed to be two messages? 01:15:45 <|amethyst> yes 01:15:51 <|amethyst> the first one is the 0 01:15:56 oh 01:15:57 i dont know what message youre referring to, but the Careful! message only shows up if you have your flight status transition into expiring flight status. i assume you can replicate this by quaffing flight, wait until it starts to expire, and move over deep water. besides getting prompted about losing your buoyancy, you wont get any further messages 01:15:58 <|amethyst> maybe change that to nullptr 01:17:01 hmm, so, what should be done about such things? 01:17:34 one idea is to prompt before doing any action period maybe. it would be spammy but would alert the player in this type of situation. then again this doesnt really come up often, since most of the time its voluntary 01:18:17 <|amethyst> alternatively, print a message on the turn the player ends up over water 01:18:18 I mean, if the player somehow ends up over water not of their own volition during expiring flight ... 01:18:41 or possibly even if it is their own volition 01:18:57 i want to see someone die from getting trampled and having their flight immediately expire the next 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closed] 10:59:01 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 11:02:04 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 11:05:51 -!- Tuxedo[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:06:49 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 11:08:34 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.14-a0-1643-g27775bd (34) 11:09:52 -!- buppy has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:12:58 -!- buppy has joined ##crawl-dev 11:22:28 -!- OneEyedJack has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:23:03 -!- Kromgart has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:25:38 -!- kaiza has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 11:28:14 -!- eith has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:29:41 -!- heteroy has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:33:02 !tell dpeg your idea of separating into tactical vs. strategic consumables: what if we had more food with effects? like ambrosia and royal jelly 11:33:02 Eronarn: OK, I'll let dpeg know. 11:34:24 <|amethyst> Eronarn: that might fit in well with dpeg's desire to eliminate chunk eating for most races 11:34:37 <|amethyst> OTOH, food is destructible 11:35:05 <|amethyst> and, though rarer, it's harder to protect against than scroll/potion destruction 11:35:16 go away harpies 11:35:21 <|amethyst> (cons only protects against spores, not harpies) 11:40:16 -!- eith has joined ##crawl-dev 11:41:25 |amethyst: we could make spores/harpies not do those things pretty easily... harpies are interesting enough even without food eating 11:43:07 what happens with mut chunks for chunk eating though :( 11:43:44 i guess if we wanted to troll crawl's playerbase we could finally add in cooking skill 11:43:58 <|amethyst> re-add fulminous 11:44:01 cook those delicious ugly things into random potions 11:44:40 being able to make strategic food items out of certain corpses, requiring some kind of permanent (evoked charge?) cost, would be interesting 11:45:04 <|amethyst> You tin the wraith corpse! 11:45:04 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:46:08 i wonder about making food a slot... you equip a ration and get the bonus until it's done being eaten 11:46:45 <|amethyst> strategic potions are, what? exp, porridge, restab, blood, mut, cure mut, bene mut? 11:47:23 restab is only strategic in the sense that you save it for tomb, it'd otherwise be a really weak tactical potion 11:47:53 curing is somewhat similar, with rotting 11:48:25 <|amethyst> I was counting restab and not curing because it seems more likely you'd use the latter in combat 11:48:57 <|amethyst> but I guess with stat death not existing restab is less strategic than it might have once been 11:51:32 i think scrolls are a harder question because many of them affect items permanently 11:51:50 perhaps we could split them into scrolls and runes? 11:52:15 -!- oberstein has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:52:19 -!- rockygargoyle has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 11:52:38 sausage of brand weapon 11:53:12 scrolls/potions = instant tactical effects, subject to destruction. runes = strategic effects on items. food = long-acting tactical to strategic, on you 11:54:13 -!- punpun has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 11:54:28 -!- oberstein has joined ##crawl-dev 11:55:23 hmm though i guess that doesn't work great for effects like acquirement 11:55:45 acquirement has an effect on items, it makes them 11:55:48 <|amethyst> that's a strategic effect on an item 11:55:55 <|amethyst> also, "rune" already has a meaning 11:55:59 <|amethyst> I was thinking "talisman" 11:56:01 <|amethyst> or "tablet" 11:56:14 it doesn't work so well for (bene|cure|)mut potions 11:56:21 <|amethyst> wheals: those work as food 11:56:21 wheals: those would be foods 11:56:25 or are you saying they should be food 11:57:19 "You see here a bread ration of cure mutation." 11:57:32 Zinnite wafers 11:58:32 beneficial mutation = supersoldier serum 12:00:25 |amethyst: inscription? 12:00:35 <|amethyst> that also means something 12:00:40 heh, good point 12:01:10 <|amethyst> Eronarn: but, yeah, if it weren't Crawl, "runes" would be my first suggestion too 12:01:26 -!- 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(as in, symbol of torment) 12:03:42 tract, ritual, rite, tome 12:04:05 <|amethyst> shem 12:04:06 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 12:04:12 gauntlets 12:04:27 augmentation 12:04:43 <|amethyst> assembly 12:04:45 <|amethyst> mod pack 12:04:51 i like "enchantments" 12:05:20 <|amethyst> that (and most of them) don't really make sense as item names 12:05:24 hack, patch, commit 12:05:27 could also be just a scroll by an another name, like parchment or something 12:05:27 wouldn't make it too clear which one is destructible of course 12:05:28 enchantment of enchant weapon I 12:05:58 sigil 12:06:09 charm 12:06:14 i think tome would work fine, though we'd want to make them non-stackable 12:06:28 wheals: i like charm a lot but it is used for the school 12:06:52 <|amethyst> And stuff that affects items is a mix of charms and hexes 12:07:00 (enchantments) 12:07:05 <|amethyst> "sigil" or some other synonym for "rune" could work 12:07:17 talisman 12:07:20 <|amethyst> "glyph" would be another possibility, since we don't use that in-character 12:07:26 <|amethyst> tenofswords: that was my first suggestion 12:07:30 tenofswords: a talisman is usually something you carry around or place somewhere 12:07:35 list is too long 12:08:03 <|amethyst> "gems" 12:08:20 diagram? 12:08:21 herbs 12:08:28 salve 12:08:40 spices 12:08:50 powder! 12:08:53 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 12:09:17 wads 12:09:29 oil 12:09:36 nuggets 12:09:43 schmear 12:09:52 shards 12:11:13 hmm you know there wouldn't be too many of these as is 12:11:34 curse, remove curse, recharge, EWI/II/III, acquirement 12:11:47 EA 12:11:49 i have a local branch that does the non-endless-bikeshedding bit of making strategic scrolls/potions unaffected by destruction 12:11:54 and maybe mapping too? 12:12:06 MarvinPA: where's the fun in that 12:12:49 -!- nht has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:12:49 no access to it right now though so i forget exactly what's on it 12:13:18 and if it were to include changing base types of the destruction-immune stuff then there would be bigger accompanying changes required also 12:13:52 <|amethyst> Eronarn: vorpalise, enchant armour; amnesia is more like a potion 12:14:14 <|amethyst> s/vorpalise/brand/ 12:14:37 <|amethyst> MarvinPA: yeah, and it would be nice not to add a new base type 12:14:41 amnesia would be a food probably 12:15:22 Lethe oysters? :P 12:15:27 -!- tsohg has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:15:31 all foods would have to begin with am 12:15:34 <|amethyst> MarvinPA: the strategic scrolls could be misc items, but then V screen might be a little full? 12:15:35 probably it would work fine without a new base type, as implemented the strategic stuff just gets an extra line in the desc once identified 12:15:48 <|amethyst> MarvinPA: that would not be unreasonable 12:15:55 |amethyst: books! 12:16:01 we already have manuals as books too 12:16:26 <|amethyst> manuals can't be read anymore though 12:23:31 -!- dtsund has left ##crawl-dev 12:27:20 <|amethyst> would there be any objections to, or problems with, renaming "vampiricism" to "vampirism"? 12:27:39 <|amethyst> The only immediate problem I can think of is troves 12:31:02 -!- Giomancer has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:31:58 -!- heteroy has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:33:54 -!- Kromgart has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:35:52 -!- inpho has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:37:41 two new vaults by nagdon 12:43:16 -!- rast has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90-rdmsoft [XULRunner 18.0.2/20130201065344]] 12:43:20 mm good d:10 orb of fire vault 12:43:49 perhaps a little questionable 12:44:15 -!- Lawman0 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:44:34 <|amethyst> I wasn't even paying attention to the monster list 12:45:01 the whole idea of "free loot if you have found x spell" is questionable too 12:45:03 yeah i'm not a fan of the concept regardless of that either :P 12:46:25 <|amethyst> particularly when it is exactly one spell 12:46:46 <|amethyst> since nagdon was careful to mark them no_ctele_into in addition to no_rtele_into 12:47:35 well, cTele would have a chance of landing you next to the orb of fire/silver star 12:47:48 because it is +- 2 squares 12:48:02 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Client Quit] 12:48:18 <|amethyst> even if those were still no_ctele? 12:49:04 <|amethyst> I was thinking 1' : no_tele_into d : no_rtele_into 12:49:45 not sure how the fuzz handles that, I guess that would work (but I don't think it is a good idea anyway, we already have too many vaults with free loot if you have cTele) 12:50:30 -!- juls has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 12:50:40 -!- jameyd has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:51:39 -!- Cedor has joined ##crawl-dev 12:52:19 <|amethyst> What about as a zot vault without the diagonal mm that lets you bypass it with passwall? 12:52:23 -!- broquaint has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 12:52:31 -!- broquaint has joined ##crawl-dev 12:52:31 -!- ground4 has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.2] 12:52:38 (I would veto bothering in the slightest with it, for whatever that's worth) 12:53:40 even if the paswall admission is cut and the monsters placed in a much more managable fashion it'd still be a minmay_acid_items rip-off 12:57:26 regarding the item renaming I have a much better idea: remove item destruction! 12:57:34 wooo, problem solved 13:00:05 remove item destruction, cut 1/5th of a three-runer's length, place more floor trash, adjust xp curve over again, 13:00:53 nono, just the first 13:01:03 thats the important part 13:01:21 the rest may be fine too, im not sure about that 13:03:34 -!- Cryp71c has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:04:27 -!- Mottie has joined ##crawl-dev 13:04:45 -!- Mottie is now known as Famott 13:08:30 -!- nht has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:09:25 -!- Basil has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:10:29 -!- RZX has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 13:10:36 -!- randomizr is now known as RZX 13:10:57 -!- Elynae has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:14:31 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 13:17:19 -!- nht has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.2] 13:22:18 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 13:24:51 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:26:11 -!- usebees has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 13:32:39 -!- RZX has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 13:32:43 -!- randomizr is now known as RZX 13:38:01 -!- caleba has quit [Quit: caleba] 13:43:16 -!- simmarine_ has joined ##crawl-dev 13:44:00 -!- simmarine has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:50:01 -!- axle has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:52:07 -!- oberstein has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:53:32 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:53:48 -!- Lawman0 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:55:28 -!- oberstein has joined ##crawl-dev 14:05:35 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 14:05:35 -!- Cedor has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:05:48 -!- Cedor has joined ##crawl-dev 14:14:02 -!- Foamed has quit [Quit: Heading to bed.] 14:17:29 -!- Arkaniad has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:18:39 -!- oberstein has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:20:28 -!- oberstein has joined ##crawl-dev 14:23:40 -!- WalkerBoh has joined ##crawl-dev 14:27:07 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 14:27:30 -!- eith|2 has joined ##crawl-dev 14:28:02 -!- eith has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 14:31:31 -!- eith|2 is now known as eith 14:33:04 -!- oberstein has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:35:37 -!- sepik121 has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 14:36:24 -!- ark is now known as Guest43901 14:36:48 -!- Guest43901 is now known as ark_ 14:37:05 -!- Cedor has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:38:58 -!- oberstein has joined ##crawl-dev 14:42:51 -!- RZX has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 14:42:53 -!- randomizr is now known as RZX 14:43:55 -!- sepik121 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:46:00 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 14:50:35 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:53:09 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:54:35 -!- oberstein has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:54:37 -!- morik___ is now known as morik 14:55:00 -!- morik has joined ##crawl-dev 14:55:42 So for the first time I've ever seen (in 1000+ games), Trog did not ignite the book that is placed near his altar in some trog altar vaults... (I walked over to it & picked it up). Is this a bug, or is there a small chance he doesn't ignite it? 14:56:54 <|amethyst> morik: where you're standing now? 14:59:03 -!- oberstein has joined ##crawl-dev 14:59:25 <|amethyst> morik: because that's not the trog book vault, it's just old_standard_altar and there happened to be a book as floor junk 14:59:41 <|amethyst> morik: the book vault has only one entrance 14:59:52 ah 14:59:52 my bad 14:59:54 thanks 15:10:57 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 15:12:21 -!- eith has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 15:16:50 -!- Basil has joined ##crawl-dev 15:18:47 -!- dtsundere has joined ##crawl-dev 15:19:02 -!- dtsund has quit [Disconnected by services] 15:19:03 -!- dtsundere is now known as dtsund 15:22:47 -!- Giomancer has joined ##crawl-dev 15:24:00 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:30:45 -!- rockygargoyle has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:32:38 -!- sepik121 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:40:12 -!- Elynae has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:41:06 -!- 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failing to hit you 16:23:56 -!- eith has joined ##crawl-dev 16:27:17 -!- dondy` is now known as dondy 16:32:36 -!- Basil has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:32:58 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 16:34:19 -!- sepik121 has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 16:37:50 03galehar02 07* 0.14-a0-1644-gf990214: Don't trample player with expiring flight over deep water. 10(35 minutes ago, 1 file, 4+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=f99021430d71 16:37:50 03galehar02 07* 0.14-a0-1645-gfef21cf: Tide pushes player if their flight (or form) is expiring. 10(5 minutes ago, 3 files, 22+ 5-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=fef21cf8959f 16:43:50 -!- tsohg has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:43:58 Tablet sounded like the best name for the strategic-scroll change, remeniscent of various assaults on ancient libraries that sorta failed because although burning worked on parchment libraries, it just preserved clay ones better. 16:44:21 -!- 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has joined ##crawl-dev 17:46:50 -!- jameyd has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.2] 17:49:51 -!- jameyd has quit [Client Quit] 17:53:15 -!- master_j has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.2] 17:53:41 -!- Kenran has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:54:05 %git :/hippogriffs 17:54:07 07jpeg02 * rd90d42364935: * Add sharks. They go into a battle frenzy if they smell blood. * Make harpies actually appear in packs. (Oops...) * Properly pluralise hippogriffs as such. * Regard butcher swap prompt as safe and default to 'n'. 10(5 years ago, 10 files, 72+ 21-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=d90d42364935 17:54:26 |amethyst: this is not a valid revspec 17:54:28 -!- jameyd has quit [Client Quit] 17:54:56 <|amethyst> hm, did I add the r or did Ashenzari have that? 17:55:14 I have no idea 17:55:38 why is there no tag, anyway? 17:56:12 <|amethyst> I believe trunk wasn't tagged as 0.x-a0 in those days 17:56:41 and it might be cool if it showed r7784 as well 17:57:22 <|amethyst> could go back and add tags 17:57:37 -!- alefury has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 17:57:38 * SamB starts gitk on stuff from before 2009 17:59:24 -!- Cheibriados has joined ##crawl-dev 17:59:24 -!- The topic of ##crawl-dev is: Crawl Development | Logs: http://s-z.org/crawl-dev/ | People with +v have commit access. | Please keep general Crawl-related chit-chat to ##crawl. | Dev wiki: http://crawl.develz.org/wiki | Long stuff to pastebin.ca please | Immortal Warwalrus and Crazy Yiuf forever. 17:59:24 -!- The topic of ##crawl is: Check out new European server at ??clan! | Play Crawl online now: type ??cao, ??cdo, ??cszo, ??clan, or ??webtiles for instructions | http://crawl.develz.org | FooTV: termcast.develz.org | ##crawl-offtopic: You got your gender in my peanut butter! Xom thinks this is hilarious. 17:59:28 <|amethyst> %git :/hippogriffs 17:59:30 07jpeg02 * rd90d42364935: * Add sharks. They go into a battle frenzy if they smell blood. * Make harpies actually appear in packs. (Oops...) * Properly pluralise hippogriffs as such. * Regard butcher swap prompt as safe and default to 'n'. 10(5 years ago, 10 files, 72+ 21-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=d90d42364935 18:00:31 -!- scummos__ has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 18:01:01 <|amethyst> hrm 18:01:36 hmm, it did not work 18:01:41 it went "until" instead 18:02:03 -!- Cheibriados has joined ##crawl-dev 18:02:03 -!- The topic of ##crawl-dev is: Crawl Development | Logs: http://s-z.org/crawl-dev/ | People with +v have commit access. | Please keep general Crawl-related chit-chat to ##crawl. | Dev wiki: http://crawl.develz.org/wiki | Long stuff to pastebin.ca please | Immortal Warwalrus and Crazy Yiuf forever. 18:02:04 -!- The topic of ##crawl is: Check out new European server at ??clan! | Play Crawl online now: type ??cao, ??cdo, ??cszo, ??clan, or ??webtiles for instructions | http://crawl.develz.org | FooTV: termcast.develz.org | ##crawl-offtopic: You got your gender in my peanut butter! Xom thinks this is hilarious. 18:02:05 <|amethyst> %git :/hippogriffs 18:02:07 07jpeg02 * d90d42364935: * Add sharks. They go into a battle frenzy if they smell blood. * Make harpies actually appear in packs. (Oops...) * Properly pluralise hippogriffs as such. * Regard butcher swap prompt as safe and default to 'n'. 10(5 years ago, 10 files, 72+ 21-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=d90d42364935 18:02:07 -!- kaiza has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 18:02:46 -!- jameyd has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.2] 18:04:16 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 18:07:23 cool 18:10:00 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:13:17 -!- DrinkMachine has joined ##crawl-dev 18:13:17 -!- DrinkMachine has quit [Changing host] 18:13:17 -!- DrinkMachine has joined ##crawl-dev 18:13:36 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:14:12 Sky (L1 TrFi) ERROR in 'bitary.h' at line 62: bit vector range error: 208 / 15 (D:1) 18:15:27 hmm, -a0 seems to have meant something different in those days? 18:16:02 or, well, when it first started getting used 18:16:34 hmm, or not 18:17:16 Sky (L1 TrFi) ERROR in 'bitary.h' at line 62: bit vector range error: 208 / 15 (D:1) 18:17:51 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:18:35 Sky (L2 TrFi) ERROR in 'bitary.h' at line 62: bit vector range error: 208 / 15 (D:1) 18:19:32 !lm Sky crash -log 18:19:33 51. Sky, XL2 TrFi, T:162 (milestone): http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/Sky/crash-Sky-20131227-001834.txt 18:19:50 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:20:50 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:24:00 -!- Crehl has quit [Quit: qqqqqqq] 18:25:36 Sky (L1 TrFi) ERROR in 'bitary.h' at line 62: bit vector range error: 48 / 15 (D:1) 18:26:36 Sky seems to think this has something to do with the ready function 18:28:04 -!- Lightli has joined ##crawl-dev 18:28:22 -!- Sky___ has joined ##crawl-dev 18:28:25 * SamB ponders having crawl archive a copy of Sky's rc whenever he crashes it ... 18:28:25 * Sequell also ponders having crawl archive a copy of Sky's rc whenever he crashes it ... 18:28:56 hello, my game crashed and i don't know why. i am trying to move my butcher script from a macro to the "ready()" lua function, but it keeps crashing 18:29:52 can someone explain to me why my script is crashing and how to prevent it? I'm on cao 18:30:18 ??bots 18:30:18 bots[1/2]: Bots that can be pm'd: announcement bots: Henzell (CAO, !), Gretell (CDO, @), Sizzell (CSZO, %), Lantell (CLAN, $), Ruffell (RHF, #); others: Varmin, Cheibriados (%), and Sequell (! ?? and others) 18:30:22 Sky (L1 TrFi) ERROR in 'bitary.h' at line 62: bit vector range error: 176 / 15 (D:1) 18:30:24 !rc Sky___ 18:30:25 http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rcfiles/crawl-git/Sky___.rc 18:30:31 !rc Sky 18:30:32 http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rcfiles/crawl-git/Sky.rc 18:31:37 i think it crashes when i press 'o' while already traveling or something, it doesn't always crash 18:31:52 Sky (L1 TrFi) ERROR in 'bitary.h' at line 62: bit vector range error: 128 / 15 (D:1) 18:31:56 -!- Sky__ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 18:31:58 nope, it always crashes actually 18:32:23 -!- Lawman0 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:32:34 :function ready() 18:32:34 : if ready_to_butcher then 18:32:34 : crawl.sendkeys("c") 18:32:34 : ready_to_butcher=false 18:32:34 : end 18:32:35 :end 18:32:51 -!- philll has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 18:33:00 maybe i'll try proccess keys 18:33:01 -!- Cannonbait has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:33:52 Sky (L1 TrFi) ERROR in 'bitary.h' at line 62: bit vector range error: 96 / 15 (D:1) 18:34:00 nope 18:34:07 proccess keys crashes too 18:34:29 am i trying to butcher something that's not there 18:35:00 i could maybe add an if to check if the item is still there 18:35:01 that should just ... not actually butcher anything 18:35:16 idk then :( 18:35:32 i just want to kill dudes and butcher thier bodies 18:35:34 D: 18:37:12 Sky (L1 TrFi) ERROR in 'bitary.h' at line 62: bit vector range error: 32 / 15 (D:1) 18:37:19 it's not the butchering 18:37:28 !rc Sky 18:37:29 http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rcfiles/crawl-git/Sky.rc 18:37:43 it might be the mpr message 18:37:45 how come it doesn't crash during map load anymore? 18:38:21 it only crashes during map load if syntax is incorrect. my script is perfectly valid. 18:39:23 -!- ufd has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:39:51 the problem was the crawl.mpr() 18:39:52 I meant, when loading a level from the save 18:39:54 it was causing the crash 18:41:54 well there's a bug: you can't crawl.mpr() in an autopickup function 18:46:48 you mean, the line ": crawl.mpr("You move over the corpse.")"? 18:47:00 yes 18:47:08 -!- lobf has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 18:47:10 i commented it out, and no more crashes 18:47:28 hmm, hmm, it works here but then I didn't build with tiles ... 18:47:33 oh, it works fine locally 18:47:36 it only crashes online 18:47:50 i test my scripts locally and make sure they work before testing online 18:48:53 it seems to be crashing in tiles-specific code ... 18:49:13 %rc Sky 18:49:14 http://dobrazupa.org/rcfiles/crawl-git/Sky.rc 18:49:24 uh 18:49:31 that's not the right one 18:49:37 -!- Poncheis has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 25.0.1/20131112160018]] 18:49:45 yeah, I see it doesn't have the mpr 18:49:58 * SamB supposes he can hard-code something in his rc ... 18:49:59 that one's different. it's an older script that uses macros 18:50:13 -!- Virigoth has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 18:50:35 i can get it to work, probably, but my gripe is the crash 18:51:05 it's not very user friendly that the end user has to avoid tiles-only(?) crashes 18:54:27 I know 18:54:28 Sky (L1 TrFi) ERROR in 'bitary.h' at line 62: bit vector range error: 80 / 15 (D:1) 18:54:36 we don't want it to crash either 18:54:49 it also crashes on you.stop_activity() 18:55:16 my goal is to have the user stop over corpses, in order to butcher. without my crawl.mpr() and runrest_stop, the player no longer stops over corpse 18:55:30 and just runs past them 18:55:56 * SamB wishes for a web 1.0 way to edit his rcfile ... 18:56:24 %rc SamB 18:56:24 http://dobrazupa.org/rcfiles/crawl-git/SamB.rc 18:56:29 i could have a runrest stop on just walking over ANY corpse, but then it's annoying when you're doing intelevel travel and stop after bumping into any pile 18:56:47 huh 18:56:48 does that crash you 18:56:53 no 18:56:56 what am I doing wrong 18:57:07 you're trying to crash 18:57:11 you only crash when you try not to 18:57:13 no, see, I'm a dev 18:57:15 oh 18:57:19 contraryness? 18:58:33 -!- jameyd has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.2] 18:59:16 Sky (L1 TrFi) ERROR in 'bitary.h' at line 62: bit vector range error: 48 / 15 (D:1) 18:59:26 Sky (L1 TrFi) ERROR in 'bitary.h' at line 62: bit vector range error: 176 / 15 (D:1) 18:59:30 Sky (L1 TrFi) ERROR in 'bitary.h' at line 62: bit vector range error: 128 / 15 (D:1) 19:00:06 -!- jameyd has quit [Client Quit] 19:00:16 Sky (L1 TrFi) ERROR in 'bitary.h' at line 62: bit vector range error: 160 / 15 (D:1) 19:00:27 so i now have an instant level reset 19:00:47 all i have to do is maco that script and i reset levels 19:00:50 :| 19:01:11 If only we got some sort of message that might tell as that something fishy was going on 19:01:20 Sky (L1 TrFi) ERROR in 'bitary.h' at line 62: bit vector range error: 32 / 15 (D:1) 19:01:24 s??faze[ogre 19:01:27 I don't have a page labeled faze[ogre in my learndb. 19:01:45 "bit vector range error" is kind of an obtuse error message, though 19:01:45 -!- jameyd has quit [Client Quit] 19:01:48 s??faze[tomb 19:01:51 faze[2/9]: The first cheater whom used crashscumming to get the tomb rune with chei ogfe, after orb run 19:02:09 !lm sky crash -log 19:02:09 62. Sky, XL1 TrFi, T:157 (milestone): http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/Sky/crash-Sky-20131227-010119.txt 19:02:26 oh, so this is a common thing? 19:02:39 -!- buppy has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:03:27 it might have to do with iteration 19:03:30 i do a lot of iterating 19:03:33 over piles 19:03:49 it's not happening in your code at all 19:04:04 not this time 19:04:47 if a lua function doesn't return, is that like returning none/false/etc? 19:04:59 or returns with no return value 19:05:36 Sky (L3 TrFi) ERROR in 'bitary.h' at line 62: bit vector range error: 208 / 15 (D:2) 19:05:49 yes 19:05:56 i am not much of a lua person to be able to see anything specifically wrong or weird going on here 19:06:46 -!- punpun has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 19:06:48 Zannick, if you return, that's same as false 19:06:54 mmmk 19:07:10 Sky (L3 TrFi) ERROR in 'bitary.h' at line 62: bit vector range error: 80 / 15 (D:2) 19:07:23 80/15, probably 80 items / 15 items 19:08:33 Sky (L3 TrFi) ERROR in 'bitary.h' at line 62: bit vector range error: 160 / 15 (D:2) 19:09:12 there might be a race condition too since it's a different range error each time and all i'm doing is press "o" 19:09:44 -!- dck has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 19:10:37 -!- morik has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:11:32 ??wisdom 19:11:32 I don't have a page labeled wisdom in my learndb. 19:11:43 * SamB wants some filler text ... 19:12:12 well, maybe you.floor_items() interacts badly with exploration 19:13:37 what the script is doing, is moving over the corpse, but as soon as you're over it, it takes the item off auto_pickup, so you effectively just move over it but don't pick it up 19:14:07 -!- sprort has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:20:53 -!- Cannonbait has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:21:02 Sky___: yeah, you did have you.floor_items() crashing before I believe 19:21:11 but that was during a load from the save file 19:22:23 sam, are you sure this is a tiles only crash 19:26:40 -!- reaverb has joined ##crawl-dev 19:27:35 Sky (L2 TrFi) ERROR in 'bitary.h' at line 62: bit vector range error: 16 / 15 (D:1) 19:28:35 not positive 19:30:17 Sky (L2 TrFi) (D:1) 19:30:45 -!- Dr_Ke has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 19:31:01 okay, that's BAAAD 19:31:05 Sky (L2 TrFi) ERROR in 'bitary.h' at line 62: bit vector range error: 240 / 15 (D:1) 19:32:02 Sky (L1 TrFi) ERROR in 'bitary.h' at line 62: bit vector range error: 128 / 15 (D:1) 19:33:56 Sky (L1 TrFi) ERROR in 'bitary.h' at line 62: bit vector range error: 96 / 15 (D:2) 19:34:16 Sky (L1 TrFi) ERROR in 'bitary.h' at line 62: bit vector range error: 64 / 15 (D:2) 19:34:33 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 19:35:40 Sky (L1 TrFi) ERROR in 'bitary.h' at line 62: bit vector range error: 32 / 15 (D:1) 19:35:49 !rc Sky 19:35:50 http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rcfiles/crawl-git/Sky.rc 19:35:54 I'm able to crash it with just that 19:36:03 stand over a corpse and press "o" 19:36:06 and it crashes 19:36:39 -!- Dr_Ke has joined ##crawl-dev 19:36:59 Sky (L1 TrFi) ERROR in 'bitary.h' at line 62: bit vector range error: 160 / 15 (D:1) 19:37:14 has to be a lone corpse, no stacks 19:38:07 * Medar can't reproduce it locally 19:38:07 * Sequell also can't reproduce it locally 19:39:17 local webtiles server that is 19:40:08 Sky (L1 TrFi) ERROR in 'bitary.h' at line 62: bit vector range error: 112 / 15 (D:1) 19:40:25 maybe it has to be a troll fighter 19:40:37 :function walk_over_edible_corpses(item) : crawl.mpr("Debug!") :end :add_autopickup_func(walk_over_edible_corpses) runrest_stop_message+=Debug 19:40:39 that's my entire rc 19:40:41 Sky___: What other things have you done? 19:40:45 Chars, that is. 19:40:51 just troll fighter 19:40:57 Nivim, want to watch my game 19:40:58 and see 19:41:02 how it crashes 19:41:11 So how could you say "maybe it has to be a troll fighter" if you haven't checked anything else? 19:41:41 Sky (L1 TrFi) ERROR in 'bitary.h' at line 62: bit vector range error: 240 / 15 (D:1) 19:41:42 Oh, fine. 19:41:51 i walk over the corpses, press i 19:41:52 -!- rockygargoyle has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:41:53 *o 19:41:55 i mean o 19:42:05 -!- zxc232 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:42:09 and then it crashes 19:42:29 -!- dck has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 19:42:49 i am playing another game, does anyone want to watch it 19:42:50 it's on cao 19:42:54 and it crashes 100% of the time 19:43:19 Sky (L1 TrFi) ERROR in 'bitary.h' at line 62: bit vector range error: 48 / 15 (D:1) 19:43:32 so, how come it's not working for me 19:43:43 it crashes 100% of the time for me 19:43:49 Sky___: What are you learning from each attempt to crash the game? 19:43:49 did I typo it 19:43:57 Sky___: Are you trying on CAO? 19:44:00 yes 19:44:04 You see to have tried a TrFi again instead of a kobold or deep elf. 19:44:08 Oops. Meant to ask SamB 19:44:11 s/ee/eem/ 19:44:16 Medar: no ... 19:44:18 ok i will try an elf 19:44:42 |amethyst: I don't suppose we can has GDB? 19:45:02 Sky (L1 HEWz) ERROR in 'bitary.h' at line 62: bit vector range error: 160 / 15 (D:1) 19:45:35 this time it crashed when i pressed 5 19:45:38 i didn't press o 19:45:46 i was shooting dudes with magic dart and i rested for mp and crash 19:46:14 does anyone want to see the elf crash 19:46:14 Sky___: Interestingly enough, I didn't see your game listed at all this time. 19:46:45 Lua error: /dgldir/rcfiles/crawl-git/SamB.rc:26: '' expected near 'end' 19:46:49 what is this about 19:46:58 it means you have a typo 19:47:45 -!- nixor has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:48:26 Sky (L1 HEWz) ERROR in 'bitary.h' at line 62: bit vector range error: 144 / 15 (D:1) 19:48:40 i went over corpse and pressed 5 19:48:42 and i crashed 19:48:47 Hmm? 19:48:51 You weren't on the corpse. 19:48:59 And you have to press five several times. 19:49:05 s/ve/d/ 19:49:21 it's part of the reproduction 19:49:26 i was trying to reproduce it 19:49:35 i pressed 5 a few times, off the corpse, no crash 19:49:37 The "Debugs!" were very even. Still set on the same thing as the code above? 19:49:44 then i went on it and pressed 5 and crashed 19:49:58 !rc sky 19:49:58 http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rcfiles/crawl-git/Sky.rc 19:50:19 the debug message is from the lua 19:50:24 -!- Nightbeer has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:50:31 -!- reaverb has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:50:43 it basically happens every time the user can do anything, right? 19:51:06 -!- lobf has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 19:51:39 i think it's when you're over a corpse and press "o" or "5" and have crawl.mpr() in the autopickup function 19:52:01 -!- dondy has quit [Quit: ninja kapow!] 19:52:10 Sky (L1 HEWz) ERROR in 'bitary.h' at line 62: bit vector range error: 48 / 15 (D:1) 19:52:26 strange that it's only while over corpses 19:52:53 maybe it's because the corpse is rotting or something slowly 19:53:30 * SamB wonders if rax_ or |amethyst can get us a core file or stack trace or something ... 19:53:30 * Sequell also wonders if rax_ or |amethyst can get us a core file or stack trace or something ... 19:53:53 i can reproduce it without the mpr i think 19:55:35 Sky (L1 GrFi) ERROR in 'bitary.h' at line 62: bit vector range error: 240 / 15 (D:1) 19:55:53 yep, no mpr and it crashes 19:56:15 Sky (L1 GrFi) ERROR in 'bitary.h' at line 62: bit vector range error: 192 / 15 (D:1) 19:56:24 !rc Sky 19:56:24 http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rcfiles/crawl-git/Sky.rc 19:56:39 i'm able to crash with that, by walking over a corpse and pressing 5 19:56:41 what if you do that from ready 19:56:54 ok, i will try 19:57:48 <|amethyst> SamB: this is #7151 19:57:53 hmm? 19:58:07 <|amethyst> %bug 7151 19:58:07 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=7151 19:58:37 -!- KurzedMetal has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 19:58:41 <|amethyst> I don't know if there's much point fixing this particular crash when we have plenty of other code that is not safely reentrant 19:58:45 amethyst, i can crash it by just calling crawl.mpr 19:59:19 <|amethyst> hm 19:59:23 look 19:59:37 -!- heteroy has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:59:46 I assume that's because you also have runrest_stop_message for the mpr message 19:59:54 But I might be wrong 20:00:09 Sky (L1 GrFi) ERROR in 'bitary.h' at line 62: bit vector range error: 144 / 15 (D:1) 20:00:22 it crashes from just doing a crawl.mpr 20:00:33 !rc sky 20:00:34 http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rcfiles/crawl-git/Sky.rc 20:00:56 so it's not only player actions, it's anything at all 20:01:07 <|amethyst> hm, anything that might mpr 20:01:20 which is lots 20:01:25 and probably should not be the case 20:01:35 since debug prints ... 20:02:04 * SamB wonders if we need to rethink our redisplay policy? 20:02:34 <|amethyst> we've certainly had all kinds of crashes stemming from the fact that mpr might redraw 20:02:54 but, why does this only seem to crash on cao? 20:03:05 cao webtiles 20:03:25 <|amethyst> it would depend on your tile settings 20:03:31 <|amethyst> hm 20:03:34 tile settings? 20:03:38 Sky (L1 GrFi) ERROR in 'bitary.h' at line 62: bit vector range error: 176 / 15 (D:1) 20:03:39 <|amethyst> actually, probably mostly on autopickup 20:04:07 <|amethyst> let me take a look at that code 20:04:13 <|amethyst> core 20:04:25 and what has that to do with the corpse? 20:06:06 and I still want to know about the one from the other day too ... 20:06:21 Sky (L1 GrFi) ERROR in 'bitary.h' at line 62: bit vector range error: 32 / 15 (D:1) 20:06:22 -!- DracheReborn has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:06:29 <|amethyst> SamB: he is printing "DEBUG" whever something checks autopickup 20:06:42 |amethyst: yes, that much I'd figured out 20:06:48 <|amethyst> SamB: which in tiles happens whenever you'd redraw 20:06:53 which I also noticed 20:06:54 you don't need the runrest_stop either 20:07:25 -!- Zermako has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:07:28 Sky (L1 GrFi) ERROR in 'bitary.h' at line 62: bit vector range error: 192 / 15 (D:1) 20:07:29 and I *also* discovered that this happens during loading a level from the save file ... 20:07:42 !rc Sky 20:07:43 http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rcfiles/crawl-git/Sky.rc 20:07:55 it's able to crash like that, just pressing 5 over a corpse 20:08:22 Sky (L1 GrFi) ERROR in 'bitary.h' at line 62: bit vector range error: 128 / 15 (D:1) 20:08:34 you.stop_activity() crashes it also, so no need for mpr 20:08:36 !rc Sky 20:08:37 http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rcfiles/crawl-git/Sky.rc 20:08:45 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:08:59 so either you.stop_activity() or crawl.mpr crashes it. 20:09:10 is it possible to have this fixed? 20:09:12 <|amethyst> Sky___: return Options.autopickups[item.base_type]; 20:09:17 <|amethyst> item is junk here 20:09:54 want me to add that? 20:10:05 <|amethyst> #4 operator[] (i=, this=) at bitary.h:69 20:10:05 <|amethyst> #5 _is_option_autopickup (iname=..., item=...) at items.cc:2563 20:10:05 <|amethyst> #6 item_needs_autopickup (item=...) at items.cc:2584 20:10:05 <|amethyst> #7 0x0000000000a57e42 in _tile_place_item (more_items=, item=..., gc=...) at tileview.cc:819 20:10:08 <|amethyst> #8 tile_draw_map_cell (gc=..., foreground_only=) at tileview.cc:1032 20:10:10 <|amethyst> #9 0x000000000094612d in show_update_at (terrain_only=false, gp=...) at show.cc:488 20:10:13 <|amethyst> #10 show_update_at (gp=..., terrain_only=false) at show.cc:457 20:10:17 <|amethyst> #11 0x00000000009470f8 in show_init (terrain_only=false) at show.cc:506 20:10:18 <|amethyst> #12 0x0000000000a14125 in viewwindow (show_updates=true, tiles_only=false) at view.cc:1011 20:10:21 <|amethyst> #13 0x00000000007a13a5 in _prep_input () at main.cc:2159 20:10:24 <|amethyst> #14 0x00000000007ab679 in _input () at main.cc:1222 20:10:26 <|amethyst> #15 0x00000000004fa7c5 in _launch_game () at main.cc:477 20:10:29 <|amethyst> #16 _launch_game_loop () at main.cc:385 20:10:52 * SamB mumbles something about pretty-printers 20:10:59 -!- Nightbeer has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:12:16 -!- rossi has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.2] 20:12:31 <|amethyst> unfortunately, cell is optimised out 20:12:39 -!- Dr_Ke has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:12:43 <|amethyst> in tile_draw_map_cell 20:12:53 -!- kaiza has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:12:57 -!- Dr_Ke has joined ##crawl-dev 20:13:34 <|amethyst> the item_info is {base_type = 176, sub_type = 173 '\255', {plus = 683, mon_type = 683}, plus2 = 0, special = 519, ... } 20:13:37 <|amethyst> so junk 20:14:13 why does it only crash while you're standing over items 20:14:21 corpse 20:15:37 -!- kai__ has quit [Quit: ❤] 20:15:59 -!- eith|2 has joined ##crawl-dev 20:18:03 -!- Arkaniad has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:18:24 Vampire detailed status screen forces a more message by rchandra 20:18:31 -!- eith has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20:18:58 -!- Sky___ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20:25:39 so, if I make stuff like reindeer pluralize correctly is that something we want to revert ... 20:35:29 -!- tigertrap has quit [Quit: 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Oh well. 21:53:02 -!- Insomniak` has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 21:53:53 -!- oberstein has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 21:55:36 -!- oberstein has joined ##crawl-dev 22:00:08 it's not too late 22:04:47 -!- NekoRex has quit [Quit: "All the vain and ignorant will look up and shout 'Save us!', and I'll look down and whisper... 'Nyo.'"] 22:05:15 uh 22:05:18 I think I found an AI bug 22:05:59 never saw THAT coming 22:06:04 (not) 22:06:13 https://dobrazupa.org/saves/darkli-crawl-git-d423c14479-131227-0405.tar.bz2 22:06:37 for some reason, the wolf appears to keep breaking off the pursuit of me even though there's a clear path between me and it 22:06:49 watch what happens when you hold down . 22:09:09 you should probably report a bug ... 22:09:23 it might take a while before someone can be arsed to look at this 22:14:35 -!- oberstein has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:14:36 (it's not usually much fun trying to figure out WTF is going wrong with such issues, afaict) 22:15:14 Wolf too stupid to attack player by Lightli 22:15:31 * SamB almost wanted to add some kind of path-finder debugging support to tiles ... 22:16:35 -!- oberstein has joined ##crawl-dev 22:16:42 -!- Arkaniad has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 22:17:12 -!- dck has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 22:22:14 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 22:22:38 -!- Lightli_ has joined ##crawl-dev 22:25:00 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 22:25:23 -!- Lightli_ is now known as Lightli 22:26:04 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:29:20 -!- Vbitz has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:29:21 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:29:25 -!- roxton has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:33:11 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:35:32 -!- oberstein has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:37:05 -!- oberstein has joined ##crawl-dev 22:47:27 -!- wack has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 22:48:24 -!- zxc232 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:51:58 03kilobyte02 07* 0.14-a0-1651-g65c7e16: A manual update (wheals). 10(44 seconds ago, 1 file, 3+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=65c7e164d1fa 22:51:58 03kilobyte02 07* 0.14-a0-1652-g0b9f37a: Default language to the system locale [Unix]. 10(2 hours ago, 2 files, 84+ 67-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=0b9f37a41b64 22:51:58 03kilobyte02 07* 0.14-a0-1653-g0ad7a2c: Default language to the system locale [Windows]. 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 7+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=0ad7a2c60214 22:53:05 * SamB waits for the complaints from the irate SSH users 22:54:28 not sure if DGL preserves locale settings or not 22:54:46 oh, if it doesn't I guess we won't have a problem 22:54:46 -!- Dattu has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:54:50 -!- bmfx has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:55:14 if it does, set language=en 22:55:14 are there many environment variables that it eats? 22:55:39 say, is that in the options guide yet 22:55:52 not sure, but I guess it forces locale because otherwise it would need to know about every single locale an user can set 22:56:16 you think it forces LANG ? 22:56:53 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 22:56:55 LC_ALL probably as it's the highest priority one 22:57:06 -!- Basil has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:57:12 and at least a non-UTF8 locale would break things 22:57:30 well, yes 22:57:59 -!- st_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:58:19 -!- Tarragon2 is now known as Basil 22:58:44 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 22:59:19 <|amethyst> hm... it overrides all three of LANG, LC_CTYPE, and LC_ALL 22:59:34 <|amethyst> oh, right, I added the LC_ALL override and didn't think to remove the others 23:00:02 <|amethyst> CDO probably overrides just LANG and LC_CTYPE then 23:01:16 why does DGL care about anything but LC_CTYPE? 23:01:46 because LC_ALL overrides LC_CTYPE 23:02:02 er, I mean, and unsetting LC_ALL 23:02:05 I guess 23:02:58 what if the user sets his locale by setting LC_ALL? 23:03:14 -!- WalkerBoh has joined ##crawl-dev 23:03:21 hmm 23:03:52 -!- eb has quit [] 23:04:54 -!- punpun has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 23:04:55 <|amethyst> IIRC it had something to do with webtiles 23:04:59 <|amethyst> rather than DGL 23:05:08 <|amethyst> maybe python looking for messages that weren't there? 23:05:17 oh, could be ... 23:06:05 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 23:06:09 <|amethyst> hm, no, that doesn't make sense 23:06:20 <|amethyst> since this is the launcher script for crawl and it calls no python 23:06:31 <|amethyst> I guess it was because of people's LC_ALL overrides 23:06:42 anyway, I guess we probably don't want that stuff anyway, since spectators and stuff ... 23:07:18 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Saindo] 23:08:27 |amethyst: and what's this bit about sudoers in the set-up guide? 23:10:55 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 23:11:47 oh, is that so dgl can chroot? 23:12:30 -!- not_detrius has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 23:13:46 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 23:19:17 -!- ssteam has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Now with extra fish!] 23:21:53 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 23:23:09 -!- Basil has joined ##crawl-dev 23:24:58 <|amethyst> SamB: 'dgl' isn't dgamelaunch itself, but the script that manages it 23:25:42 <|amethyst> SamB: it needs root so that, among other things, it can deploy scripts to directories that aren't owned by crawl-dev 23:27:08 <|amethyst> one problem with the way I have it on cszo etc is that crawl-dev has write permission to the dgamelaunch-config directory 23:27:34 <|amethyst> that's for my convenience, but it does mean that that sudoers line lets them run arbitrary code as root 23:28:02 <|amethyst> if dgamelaunch-config itself isn't being updated often, it probably makes more sense to put that somewhere only root can write 23:28:36 -!- minqmay has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:29:04 <|amethyst> (them = people with access to the crawl-dev account; games themselves run as, and saves etc are owned by, 'crawl' 23:29:07 <|amethyst> ) 23:32:27 -!- Lawman0 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:32:50 -!- caleba has quit [Quit: caleba] 23:36:38 -!- hyperbolic has joined ##crawl-dev 23:39:26 * SamB wonders how he even HAS all the "ancient" commits ... 23:39:50 -!- elliptic has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 23:41:31 -!- Kalir has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:41:50 -!- GiantOwl is now known as Kalir 23:41:54 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 23:44:02 -!- DrinkMachine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:44:48 -!- Poncheis has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 26.0/20131205075310]] 23:44:50 |amethyst: I'm thinking of adding some un-annotated -a0 tags; in particular: 23:44:50 d131ce057a429833e086b60cebeda46e062d07a1 refs/tags/0.2-a0 23:44:50 f7cd642789611c6725e0682546db78ebb75b2164 refs/tags/0.3-a0 23:44:50 f23a9759efb6d0e826fb155f79156ca303ac651b refs/tags/0.4-a0 23:44:50 12c06e3c2402f48325bf48d31e588af5ccab1c08 refs/tags/0.5-a0 23:46:07 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 23:47:27 -!- AlphaQ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:47:54 some old history suffers from SVN issues, what about massagging and grafting a fixed version? 23:48:01 s/gg/g/ 23:48:36 Mm, that would be good if we can figure out how to massage it properly. 23:49:21 -!- axlexk has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:49:24 kilobyte: well, there is that new "git replace" thing, but any commits that needed massaging would need to have new dopplegangers lovingly hand-crafted 23:49:50 grafts don't propagate between repositories 23:50:12 and "git filter-branch" would give us all-new commit hashes 23:50:35 any change to a commit gives new commit hashes to anything after it, yeah 23:51:14 I'm thinking mostly of 1d0f57cb and 6adb570 23:51:40 Funnily enough, that's also what I had in mind. 23:51:44 yeah, me too 23:51:54 axing git-svn-id: soam and nicer committer names would be another bonus 23:52:01 actually, I have an idea 23:52:09 we can just pretend those two never happened ... 23:52:12 s/soam/spam/ 23:52:52 kilobyte: we don't want to do this, it would invalidate any hashes in our commit messages ... 23:55:11 that's why I mentioned grafting/replacing 23:56:21 well, I mean, the commit message thing sounds a bit much ... 23:56:44 -!- magicpoints has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:58:49 also see about .mailmap in git-shortlog(1) 23:59:40 -!- lagbot has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]