00:01:47 <|amethyst> Just tried chopping 50 fire dragon corpses and got 34 hides, so it sounds about rigth 00:01:50 <|amethyst> right 00:05:49 Unstable branch on rl.heh.fi updated to: 0.14-a0-1519-gc5e2f7f (34) 00:05:54 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.14-a0-1519-gc5e2f7f (34) 00:07:26 -!- _aardvark has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 00:14:02 -!- Arkaniad has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:15:15 yeah 1/3 chance per dragon sounds right 00:18:31 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.14-a0-1519-gc5e2f7f (34) 00:22:08 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:26:33 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 00:31:21 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 00:34:49 -!- RedFeather has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 25.0.1/20131112160018]] 00:36:35 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:39:07 -!- master_j has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.2] 00:41:18 -!- VolteccerJack has quit [Quit: I love my HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <-] 00:43:17 -!- paulsomebody has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 00:46:30 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.14-a0-1519-gc5e2f7f 00:52:17 -!- Weeksy has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 01:03:34 -!- battleguy01 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:10:23 -!- Lightli has joined ##crawl-dev 01:12:33 -!- Nef_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 01:19:34 -!- jameyd has quit [Quit: leaving] 01:27:51 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 01:33:48 -!- hauki has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:41:41 -!- conted has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 01:55:36 Unstable branch on crawl.lantea.net updated to: 0.14-a0-1519-gc5e2f7f (34) 01:56:11 hi 01:58:47 -!- Zeor has quit [Quit: pfffffffff] 02:01:29 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 02:01:56 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:02:43 -!- Pacra has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 02:06:55 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:09:33 -!- conted has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 02:25:05 -!- Kalir has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:27:50 -!- SkaryMonk has joined ##crawl-dev 02:27:55 -!- bmfx has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:43:03 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:46:11 -!- gammafunk has quit [Quit: gammafunk] 02:48:11 -!- scummos__ has quit [Client Quit] 03:07:47 -!- simmarine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:08:16 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:18:30 -!- mong has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:40:08 -!- tksquared_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:40:08 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:40:08 -!- crate has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:40:08 -!- Staplegun has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:40:28 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:44:58 -!- Blazinghand_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:52:05 -!- bmfx has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 03:52:23 -!- bug_sniper_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:52:36 -!- atrodo has quit [*.net *.split] 03:52:36 -!- Vbitz has quit [*.net *.split] 03:52:36 -!- Porost has quit [*.net *.split] 03:52:36 -!- morik___ has quit [*.net *.split] 03:55:49 -!- RZX has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 25.0.1/20131112160018]] 03:56:13 -!- Basil has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:59:14 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 04:06:57 -!- jeanjacques has joined ##crawl-dev 04:09:04 -!- minqmay has quit [Quit: Leaving] 04:11:00 -!- Pepe has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:19:06 -!- SkaryMonk2 has joined ##crawl-dev 04:20:02 -!- SkaryMonk has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 05:01:22 -!- st_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:01:49 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 05:07:39 -!- Trevise_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 05:29:12 -!- Basil has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 05:33:39 -!- us17 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:39:56 -!- rossi has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.2] 05:43:43 -!- Hailley has quit [Quit: Petra is closed!] 05:46:45 -!- HellTiger_ has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 05:48:03 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 05:51:12 -!- heteroy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:54:14 -!- Blazinghand_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 05:58:22 -!- ShadeTornado has quit [Quit: Leaving] 06:18:05 -!- SkaryMonk has joined ##crawl-dev 06:20:53 -!- SkaryMonk2 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:21:28 -!- Poncheis has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 25.0.1/20131112160018]] 06:22:37 Your oklob plant falls asleep! 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Fixed. 10:25:04 galehar: OK, I'll let chrisoelmueller: know. 10:25:22 -!- oberstein has joined ##crawl-dev 10:26:10 -!- wheals_ is now known as wheals 10:26:12 -!- |amethys1 has joined ##crawl-dev 10:27:26 -!- |amethyst has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 10:27:27 -!- yokelz has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 10:27:27 -!- myrmidette has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 10:27:27 -!- Guest98468 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 10:27:29 -!- blackcustard has joined ##crawl-dev 10:28:21 -!- ChrisOelmueller is now known as Guest63894 10:28:39 -!- DrinkMachine has joined ##crawl-dev 10:28:39 -!- DrinkMachine has quit [Changing host] 10:28:39 -!- DrinkMachine has joined ##crawl-dev 10:29:15 -!- Marbit_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 10:29:38 -!- hauki has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 10:31:12 -!- heteroy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:32:26 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 10:32:48 -!- Arkaniad has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:32:48 -!- jeanjacques has joined ##crawl-dev 10:35:33 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 10:36:07 -!- Morg0th has quit [Quit: leaving] 10:36:16 -!- Mandevil has quit [Quit: leaving] 10:37:38 -!- Roarke has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:37:50 -!- oberstein has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:38:32 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:38:33 -!- Guest_41 has joined ##crawl-dev 10:38:38 -!- Azzkikr has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 10:42:07 -!- Nightbeer has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:44:15 -!- LexAckson has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:45:23 -!- oberstein has joined ##crawl-dev 10:46:16 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 10:48:37 -!- PolkaDot has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 10:49:53 -!- Tellian has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:50:02 -!- oberstein has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 10:54:22 -!- kunwon11 is now known as kunwon1 11:03:54 -!- paulsomebody has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:04:52 %bug 7869 11:04:52 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=7869 11:05:39 %bug 7870 11:05:39 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=7870 11:05:45 * SamB goes to turn that into an implementable if it's as good as it sounded yesterday ... 11:05:46 Also for you 11:06:14 -!- liquid is now known as Guest85694 11:06:25 -!- paulsomebody has joined ##crawl-dev 11:08:50 * SamB adds an australian english dictionary to his browser 11:09:06 -!- alefury has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Iceweasel 25.0/20131102041233]] 11:10:08 Does anyone who knows anything about mcache happen to be around? 11:13:41 stupid firefox can't install a spelling dictionary without restarting? 11:14:57 At least it behaves pretty well when restarting 11:15:11 But yeah, everything needs a restart 11:16:18 well, they added support for non-restart-needing addons a while ago 11:16:43 Oh, cool. 11:18:02 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.14-a0-1520-g0169b85 (34) 11:18:18 I'm still not really too sure why the XUL-overlay-based addons need a restart though; it seems kind of backwards that an imperative JS API would NOT require restart but a declarative API would ... 11:19:02 but yes, you're right that it behaves quite well WRT restarts; heck, I kill it all the time ... 11:19:39 -!- imantor_ has quit [Quit: leaving] 11:19:59 I think it is probably due in no small part to sqlite 11:22:41 -!- jameyd has quit [Client Quit] 11:24:54 paulsomebody: okay, I have recategorized them 11:27:55 -!- dondy` has quit [Quit: ninja kapow] 11:28:06 wow who would name a cache mcache with memcached around 11:28:15 -!- Roarke has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:29:35 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 11:30:04 -!- crate has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:30:15 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:31:59 Well, mcache is probably older than memcached 11:32:13 Wait, probably not. 11:36:23 -!- Garhauk has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 11:41:51 -!- RiotInferno has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:51:33 -!- [yalue] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:58:40 -!- blabber has joined ##crawl-dev 12:04:39 -!- Vizer has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:05:17 -!- Marbit has joined ##crawl-dev 12:11:32 -!- eith has joined ##crawl-dev 12:12:28 -!- blabber has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:15:15 -!- eirikdaude has quit [] 12:16:16 -!- blabber has joined ##crawl-dev 12:17:03 -!- ldf has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:19:40 -!- SkaryMonk2 has joined ##crawl-dev 12:20:55 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 12:21:15 -!- SkaryMonk has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:22:13 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 12:22:20 -!- DrinkMachine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:23:15 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 12:25:16 -!- bug_sniper__ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:26:29 SamB: Thanks, it should help. What do you think are the odds that someone will decide to actually work on them in the foreseeable future? 12:27:47 paulsomebody: I absolutely no idea 12:27:54 +have 12:28:19 hmm, I got confused about which conversation this was 12:28:30 but I still haven't much clue 12:28:39 Always a safe answer 12:29:49 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 12:30:01 -!- Grunt_ is now known as Grunt 12:30:39 -!- tatprim has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:30:40 SamB: Okay, I was just asking. 12:35:55 -!- Garhauk has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 12:36:54 -!- heteroy has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 12:42:52 -!- Guest63894 is now known as ChrisOelmueller 12:47:32 -!- jameyd has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.2] 12:49:55 -!- kshurik has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:53:02 -!- tsohg has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:55:21 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:58:03 -!- tsohg has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:04:08 -!- fzhenya has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:05:36 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 13:07:13 -!- heteroy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:08:01 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 13:12:41 -!- alefury has joined ##crawl-dev 13:14:33 -!- Elynae has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 13:15:27 -!- heteroy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:15:50 -!- valtern has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:23:25 -!- Elynae_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 13:33:07 -!- Zaba has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:33:52 -!- Zaba has joined ##crawl-dev 13:36:18 -!- master_j has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.2] 13:44:37 -!- SkaryMonk2 has left ##crawl-dev 13:58:55 -!- robotcentaur has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:03:17 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 14:06:46 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 14:06:58 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:07:06 -!- yokelz_ is now known as yokelz 14:07:30 -!- MetaCosm_ has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in] 14:15:20 -!- AreBrandon has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 14:19:19 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 14:20:38 -!- nonehundred is now known as nonethousand 14:20:46 -!- nonethousand is now known as nonehundred 14:23:17 -!- master_j has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.2] 14:23:52 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 14:27:35 -!- nonehundred is now known as nonethousand 14:27:40 -!- Markten has quit [Client Quit] 14:27:43 -!- nonethousand has quit [Changing host] 14:27:43 -!- nonethousand has quit [Changing host] 14:28:45 -!- Basil is now known as Tarragon 14:28:53 -!- Tarragon is now known as Basil 14:29:43 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:29:54 -!- Poncheis has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 25.0.1/20131112160018]] 14:30:12 -!- nonethousand has joined ##crawl-dev 14:34:55 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:36:47 -!- scummos^ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:39:19 -!- evilmike has joined ##crawl-dev 14:39:46 Hey Devs! I wanted to ask you if you think the insectoid species propossal has potential. 14:39:49 And if so. How could it improve, what would need to change and what would it need to make it to the game. 14:39:56 -!- scummos__ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:43:15 -!- heteroy has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 14:45:50 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 14:57:11 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:04:38 -!- blabber has quit [Quit: gn8] 15:07:43 -!- Chozo_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:08:24 -!- jameyd has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.2] 15:17:42 -!- Nakatomy has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:21:28 -!- confidenceinterv has quit [Client Quit] 15:23:51 -!- yalue has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:29:37 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 15:30:21 -!- agentgt has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:33:51 -!- Marbit_ has joined ##crawl-dev 15:35:09 -!- Marbit has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 15:37:17 -!- ldf has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:37:32 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 15:41:19 -!- Guest49037 is now known as Varren 15:44:33 -!- rast- has joined ##crawl-dev 15:44:35 -!- rast has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:44:37 -!- rast- is now known as rast 15:45:06 -!- tsohg has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:46:37 -!- glow11 has joined ##crawl-dev 15:46:37 -!- jameyd has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.2] 15:46:42 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 15:48:40 -!- pelotron has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:50:03 -!- tsohg has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:57:49 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 16:04:01 -!- ophanim has quit [Quit: ophanim] 16:06:49 -!- LexAckson has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:08:02 -!- scummos| has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:08:21 -!- RedFeather has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 25.0.1/20131112160018]] 16:09:15 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 16:16:21 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 16:18:46 -!- jameyd has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.2] 16:23:25 -!- jameyd has quit [Client Quit] 16:26:23 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:27:01 -!- Mandevil has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:27:36 -!- scummos^ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:28:25 -!- jameyd has quit [Client Quit] 16:29:57 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 16:30:33 -!- glow11 has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.2] 16:32:34 -!- y2s82 has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.1] 16:34:06 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 16:38:43 -!- tali713 has joined ##crawl-dev 16:38:46 -!- evilmike has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:50:44 -!- Kenran has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:03:13 -!- gnum has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:03:40 -!- Nightbeer has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:05:49 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 17:07:29 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 17:08:51 -!- Drakonis_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:15:22 Speed ranged weapons description by wheals 17:16:30 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:25:16 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 17:28:14 -!- Garhauk has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:34:35 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 17:35:59 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:39:34 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 17:43:27 -!- hauki2 has quit [] 17:46:35 -!- Aryth has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:50:07 -!- |amethys1 is now known as |amethyst 17:50:07 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 17:50:17 -!- gammafunk has quit [Client Quit] 17:51:12 -!- dondy has quit [Quit: ninja kapow] 17:51:38 Marbit_: not a dev, but the proposal in the OP has a 0% chance of making it in 17:52:11 heh... I was starting to think that 17:53:00 It might be that the idea just cannot work 17:53:22 insects are cool though 17:53:25 or perhaps there is a workarround that will improve it 17:53:26 -!- gnum has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:54:17 yeah (I'm about to apply to a phd in myrmecology 17:54:36 a good way to design a new race is to think of something that's taken for granted on other races, and then break it 17:54:44 e.g. "you get two ring slots" 17:54:51 <|amethyst> well 17:54:56 <|amethyst> that's not the only way to design a race 17:54:58 "you aren't on fire" 17:55:02 not the only way of course 17:55:07 <|amethyst> but we have decent coverage of the basic apt space 17:55:24 |amethyst: there was a wiki page with 'unused apt combinations' 17:55:26 all of them were boring as heck 17:55:37 good at maces/stabbing! 17:55:37 xbows and ice magic!!!! 17:55:41 <|amethyst> Eronarn: +4 Ice, +4 Fire 17:55:47 <|amethyst> Eronarn: that one might not be boring 17:55:52 heh, I still like the concept of going from one game style and transition onto a totally different playstyle 17:55:57 <|amethyst> or might be boring in the other direction 17:56:02 +4 ice/fire, -4 air/earth is kinda neat i guess 17:56:07 Marbit_: i wrote up a much longer post that I didn't reply with 17:56:12 I think that it is an interesting one but difficult to achiece 17:56:15 tavern isn't a suitable venue for it 17:56:25 <|amethyst> ontoclasm: +4 ice/fire, -4 conjurations 17:56:31 mm 17:56:40 but it includes an example way to take a theme in three different caste directions 17:56:59 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:57:04 without being explicitly no-magic or no-melee 17:57:35 random concept: you get worse at magic and better at melee the lower your mp is 17:57:41 ahh heh I even retough about what you said with the castes with mutations 17:57:49 but I let you speak first 17:58:22 Marbit_: http://pastebin.com/ZEG1FSKA <- pastebin, 1 hour expiry. (the top part is interesting bug facts, not relevant to designing a race generally) 17:58:45 well, ds and dr already have the "you develop at level X into a thing you can't predict" 17:58:48 deal 17:59:22 wow you really though it! 17:59:35 it will take me a bit to read it 17:59:41 thanks! 18:00:19 ontoclasm: i liked the abilities i came up with for my three castes: 1) great stabbing and reachstab poison + entangle aux, ok melee/magic, no bad apts. but you can't speak and get large spellcasting penalties except for duration-causing enchantments or purely magical constructs 18:00:30 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 18:01:21 permasilence sounds crippling 18:01:51 2) average-ish tank race, bite-based constriction aux, mediocre-to-bad magic, permanent guardian spirit but all MP used for it causes glow too. if they get damaged while they have glow, they'll reflexively cast known charms on themselves or hexes on the attacker 18:02:08 Eronarn (havent read yor stuff yet) I though about what you and other people said at the tavern 18:02:23 <|amethyst> wheals: "get large spellcasting penalties" implies it's not quite silence/mute 18:02:49 i meant no scrolls (i assume that's can't speak) 18:02:57 if stats are not interesting perhaps making bigger the penalties/benefits of stats will make them interesting 18:02:59 or maybe it's something silly like no shopping 18:03:15 still, that may be difficult to balance 18:03:49 3) astral-tuned race with good spc/tloc/summ/hexes/charms, ok conj/elemental, bad nec/tmut/poison (i.e., anything to do with flesh/bodies). and a chance that mental status effects they inflict with spells become permanent 18:04:17 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 18:04:37 wheals: they can speak but very poorly - shouting is only range 1 or 2, scroll failure like blurry vision, flat spell failure chance that can't be reduced by magic skill/wiz/brilliance/etc. 18:04:37 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:04:48 <|amethyst> Eronarn: "reflexively cast charms" sounds dangerous 18:04:51 ah 18:04:55 <|amethyst> Eronarn: what if it picks haste? 18:05:07 |amethyst: ones that they know 18:05:18 well it seems that they don't get mutated from glow 18:05:19 <|amethyst> Eronarn: so "memorize haste to explode"? 18:05:23 so haste wouldn't be so bad 18:05:44 I also thought that it would be interesting a race or god that ask you to do the oposite of what you have been doing 18:06:07 <|amethyst> Forget the orb and leave the dungone? 18:06:12 hahahaha 18:06:13 <|amethyst> s/one/eon/ 18:06:14 |amethyst: nah, wouldn't necessarily use the normal casting rules. the flavor is that your mind is half-dreaming, and your dream self is casting to protect you 18:06:57 nah, if you have ignored spellcasting it will ask you to train spellcasting 18:07:26 if you have been a spellcasting guy it will ask you to train armour 18:07:34 lots of knobs to use to balance an ability like that... like it could ignore armor and shields and etc., it could only kick in if you can cast the spell above X%, it may have a cooldown 18:07:58 but well I'm just trowing ideas... I should reound them better, make another patch and try it : ) 18:08:25 i think some people have suggested a race that has a built-in pet 18:08:44 presumably invincible, or resummonable if it dies 18:08:50 newt race, with detachable tail 18:09:02 it regenerates if it dies, of course 18:09:03 the idea is that it's a caste where, if you become one, you probably won't want to be a pure spellcaster now (bad apts + permanent spirit) and might become a hybrid instead, but it doesn't actually prevent you from being a spellcaster 18:10:14 ahh yeah, normally with insectoids I don't abandon totally what I was doing... it will help me until the midgame 18:10:50 to be true I also always liked pets 18:11:06 the post has some insectoid pet ideas also 18:11:29 like you start on D1 as something powerful that can't eat/drink and maxHP rots; when it dies, you hatch from it 18:11:43 oks, reading the thing eronarn wrote 18:12:32 challenge: win without hatching? 18:12:51 that would be kind of amazing 18:13:04 eggrobin 18:13:26 urban jungle robin 18:13:40 or is it tokyo jungle 18:13:43 -!- st_ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 18:14:13 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Quit: Excess flood] 18:16:33 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 18:18:11 -!- Bloaxor has quit [Quit: Error: Bloax not found] 18:26:27 -!- Dr_Ke has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:29:11 -!- caleba has quit [Quit: caleba] 18:29:46 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 18:31:23 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 18:32:02 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 18:40:42 -!- nonethousand has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:41:01 -!- Ruffell has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 18:41:17 -!- _dd has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 18:42:34 -!- _dd has joined ##crawl-dev 18:44:27 -!- Ruffell has joined ##crawl-dev 18:46:07 -!- alefury has quit [] 18:49:26 -!- paulsomebody has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:50:40 -!- jeanjacques has quit [Quit: quit] 18:51:29 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:55:19 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 18:57:28 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 19:00:00 -!- Trevise has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:02:16 -!- jameyd has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.2] 19:03:18 -!- Pacra has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:05:32 -!- Vesto has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 19:07:55 -!- eith has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:11:31 -!- Crehl_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:13:31 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:14:07 -!- battleguy01 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:21:33 -!- eith_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:21:46 -!- eith_ has joined ##crawl-dev 19:24:38 03kilobyte02 07* 0.14-a0-1521-g2fc5fa9: Simplify starting stat assignments. 10(55 seconds ago, 1 file, 34+ 35-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=2fc5fa92fe3c 19:29:51 -!- kait has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:29:54 -!- vladimir_ has quit [Quit: leaving] 19:31:15 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 19:32:40 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 19:36:58 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:37:41 -!- kait has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 19:41:50 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:42:14 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 19:46:04 -!- ShadeTornado has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:49:15 So I had an unrand idea on the way home: 19:49:20 -!- heteroy has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 19:49:39 the +1 gloves of Introspection; either an evokable or permanent Confusing Touch effect and possibly something like clarity. 19:49:59 (getting poked by these gloves forces you to confront your harsh inner realities, etc. etc.) 19:52:35 -!- eb has quit [] 19:53:46 -!- tenofswords has joined ##crawl-dev 19:54:30 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 19:54:33 !seen |amethyst 19:54:34 tenofswords: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 19:54:34 I last saw |amethyst at Tue Nov 26 22:20:09 2013 UTC (2w 6d 3h 34m 24s ago) saying 'Cedor: when you kill one, you get either a spriggan or a giant firefly' on ##crawl-dev. 19:55:28 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:56:44 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 19:59:38 -!- heteroy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:02:24 * tenofswords whistles and points at http://pastie.org/pastes/8554777/text again 20:05:38 -!- heteroy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:11:16 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:12:25 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 20:15:12 -!- ZChris13 has joined ##crawl-dev 20:15:27 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Saindo] 20:15:38 -!- heteroy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:21:34 -!- Drakonis_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:22:07 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:23:05 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 20:24:40 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 20:26:27 -!- Zermako has quit [Quit: good night and good luck to all!] 20:26:50 Eronarn: http://pastebin.com/3mcC7Q51 20:27:04 Eronarn: thanks for all the comments 20:27:24 -!- Nakat0my has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:27:28 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 20:30:41 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:32:02 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 20:33:02 -!- eith_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:33:33 -!- eith has joined ##crawl-dev 20:37:34 03kilobyte02 07* 0.14-a0-1522-g6c286a4: Don't unseal destroyed doors. 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 6+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=6c286a4f22bc 20:44:07 there used to be a tagging behaviour thing for digging abyss walls to try and actually keep it as ground, what happened to that 20:44:54 not sure; I just had a crash because of this 20:45:29 -!- Guest85694 has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20:45:39 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:45:44 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:46:51 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 20:47:02 -!- Ruffell has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:47:46 -!- Ruffell has joined ##crawl-dev 20:54:20 -!- addatoo_ is now known as addatoo 20:54:56 -!- Poncheis has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 25.0.1/20131112160018]] 20:56:40 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 20:59:17 -!- hauki has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 21:08:09 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 21:08:13 SGrunt (L22 HaWr) ASSERT(in_bounds(p)) in 'items.cc' at line 3733 failed. (p = (0,0)) (Vaults:4) 21:08:15 uh!? 21:08:40 !lm . crash 21:08:40 7. [2013-11-29 05:24:48] SGrunt the Grappler (L14 GhIE) ASSERT(map bounds(center)) in 'coordit.cc' at line 200 failed on turn 22443. (Lair:8) 21:08:42 !lm . crash -log 21:08:43 7. SGrunt, XL14 GhIE, T:22443 (milestone): http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/SGrunt/crash-SGrunt-20131129-052448.txt 21:08:47 !lm . crash -log 21:08:48 8. SGrunt, XL22 HaWr, T:103189 (milestone): http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/SGrunt/crash-SGrunt-20131217-030809.txt 21:09:20 -!- heteroy has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 21:10:14 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 21:13:18 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 21:14:08 -!- ZChris13 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:17:49 -!- jameyd has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.2] 21:21:38 -!- heteroy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:23:01 -!- Tellian has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:23:28 -!- Crying has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 21:26:50 -!- heteroy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:33:06 -!- DrinkMachine has joined ##crawl-dev 21:33:11 'show_game_turns = true' not behaving correctly by battaile 21:33:26 -!- Pacra has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:37:30 -!- ereinion has quit [] 21:43:14 is crawl available in other languages? 21:43:28 -!- pelotr0n has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:44:39 Marbit_: partially 21:45:10 ChrisO[ican'tspellthispart] was looking at gettextizing the main code 21:45:20 how do I test a version of the language? anythin special while compiling? 21:45:26 but right now we just have descriptions and such translated 21:45:41 should be in options guide ... 21:45:56 silly me, I'll test that 21:46:00 thanks 21:46:11 hmm, I'm not finding it for "language" thoguh 21:47:48 SamB: what's the point of using gettext? 21:48:14 kilobyte: he wanted to translate the messages that occur in the code 21:48:21 a vast majority of messages can't be gettextized as they use grammar, the rest are merely a special case 21:48:50 yes, I know, thats' why I said he was "looking at" gettextizing 21:49:51 I actually wanted to learn a bit while playing. 21:49:54 -!- Zabo has quit [] 21:49:56 anyway, it looks like you put "language = " in your init file, except obviously only some codes are supported 21:50:08 some plans exist, but even with a quite detailed design, that's massive amount of owkr 21:50:16 and for some reason we have an enum of these, rather than figuring it out based on what's in the data folder 21:50:20 i didn't know dwarven was an iso supported language 21:50:37 wheals: okay, there are some extra options ... 21:50:50 could be good to default to the system language 21:50:55 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 21:51:00 it MIGHT be 21:51:02 i assume those might be part of the reason for the enum 21:51:32 "qwarven" is too long for an ISO code anyway 21:52:22 what is LANG_KRAUT 21:52:33 another joke? 21:52:49 100% German! 21:53:06 was JAGERKIN not enough? 21:53:43 -!- NilsBloodaxe has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 21:54:06 -!- heteroy has quit [Read error: Connection timed out] 21:55:56 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 22:00:07 -!- tenofswords has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:00:16 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 22:01:21 mmm a shame, the name of the items and monsters is not available in german T_T 22:03:31 -!- Basil has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:04:57 Marbit_: I prepared quite a few bits already, you may want to look at util/gather_* 22:05:55 -!- Marbit_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 22:05:55 German is a language with hardly any grammar -- it has only a bit more than English, so pretty much the only attribute I see is marking nouns as m/f/n 22:06:23 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 22:07:58 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 22:09:19 -!- liquid is now known as Guest42968 22:09:53 <|amethyst> kilobyte: German has case marking on adjectives/nouns (English only on pronouns), though case would probably attach to %s slots rather than to words 22:10:22 <|amethyst> kilobyte: and pluralisation is less regular 22:12:38 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:13:24 -!- hauki has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:14:18 pluralisation is a function(noun), that's no rocket surgery 22:14:39 German cases are a matter of articles rather than declension, though 22:14:58 how many articles do you have to read? 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Is this a known bu? 23:47:15 *bug? 23:48:53 -!- gnum has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 23:49:37 Weeksy: maybe i left a stray pixel on one 23:49:47 does this happen on a particular direction or something? 23:52:14 It doesn't seem to always the same direction. Perhaps primarily horizontal, both left and right. I haven't been able to reproduce it all the time. 23:52:31 pixel droppings, you say ... 23:54:51 yeah, the next time It shows up, I'll take a screenshot 23:57:07 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:57:16 I have always seen that off and on with both offline tiles and webtiles, fwiw. I assumed it was just an artifact of how it was rendered 23:57:57 what, you mean wrong? 23:58:04 for "how it was rendered" 23:58:35 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 23:58:42 I had assumed that there was some slight discrepancy beween beams/throw paths and tile placement 23:59:05 ...possibly a rounding error between cell placement and beam calculation