00:01:00 -!- malchor has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:01:16 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.14-a0-852-g0ba292f (34) 00:02:06 <|amethyst> elliptic: oh, never mind, that first read_init_file call is with runscript = false 00:03:01 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:03:37 -!- tkappleton1 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 00:04:27 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:05:06 -!- magistern has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 00:05:52 Unstable branch on rl.heh.fi updated to: 0.14-a0-852-g0ba292f (34) 00:06:46 -!- hart has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:08:03 03Grunt02 07* 0.14-a0-853-gcaeb28a: No horde of dire elephants in mu_elephants_graveyard in Lair. 10(84 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=caeb28a626f9 00:08:21 -!- _dd has joined ##crawl-dev 00:14:39 -!- DrinkMachine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:14:54 -!- Ma-Ti has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 25.0/20131025151332]] 00:14:59 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:15:53 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.14-a0-853-gcaeb28a (34) 00:17:07 unknown monster: "two headed ogre" 00:17:07 %??two headed ogre 00:17:11 two-headed ogre (04O) | Spd: 10 | HD: 6 | HP: 19-45 | AC/EV: 1/4 | Dam: 17, 13 | 10items, 10doors, two-weapon | Res: 06magic(32) | Chunks: 07contam | XP: 282 | Sz: Large | Int: normal. 00:17:11 %??two-headed ogre 00:19:09 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:20:34 -!- Felix__ is now known as Xelif 00:22:12 -!- eb has quit [] 00:23:15 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:30:59 |amethyst: at some point I should actually learn how to use &^T so I am better at debugging this stuff 00:32:03 -!- keszocze_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 00:32:35 wouldn't it make more sense to use an interface similar to dgn.persist or whatever it's called ... 00:33:02 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.14-a0-853-gcaeb28a 00:33:58 -!- Croesus has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 00:37:39 -!- bh has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:39:41 -!- conted has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:41:33 -!- RiotInferno1 has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 00:42:15 SamB: you mean, just set aside a table that players can stick stuff in and it will be saved? 00:42:29 we could do that, yes 00:42:50 well, it wouldn't exactly be the same as a normal table I suspect 00:43:35 * SamB thinks it'd actually be a wrapped store.h "hash table" 00:44:15 -!- hurdos has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:47:12 <|amethyst> SamB: it'd probably be simpler to use a normal table 00:48:08 |amethyst: we have a way to serialize that? 00:48:27 <|amethyst> yeah, that's how we serialise dgn.persist 00:48:33 <|amethyst> see dat/dlua/luamark.lua 00:48:48 <|amethyst> however 00:48:52 <|amethyst> -- Marshalls a table comprising of keys that are strings or numbers only, 00:48:52 <|amethyst> -- and values that are strings, numbers, functions, or tables only. The table 00:48:55 <|amethyst> -- cannot have cycles, and the table's metatable is not preserved. 00:49:02 <|amethyst> that might be part of the reason we don't do that currently 00:49:17 <|amethyst> in dlua, if there's a cycle, it's our fault 00:49:37 <|amethyst> in clua, the user could do that intentionally 01:00:24 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 01:06:10 because they wanted to trash their save ... and maybe DoS the server I guess ... 01:06:34 or? 01:07:32 |amethyst: do you know how to access lua functions defined in rcfile inside the interpreter? 01:08:02 for example gearset_save 01:08:06 you be in the wrong interpreter 01:08:20 I mean, you be in dlua but you want clua 01:08:27 oh 01:08:46 I think there's some function to run clua though 01:09:28 is it possible that stuff isn't getting saved in chk_lua_save properly because it is dlua? 01:10:07 -!- Pedjt has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:10:10 <|amethyst> I was thinking something like that, but I don't see why it would happen 01:10:47 <|amethyst> chk_lua_save is in dat/dlua/userbase.lua which is supposed to be loaded when managed_vm is true (clua) 01:15:21 chk_lua_save does not really look usable ... 01:15:26 -!- Quashie has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 01:16:49 I mean what exactly is c_save supposed to accomplish? 01:17:35 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 01:18:19 <|amethyst> it's supposed to return a string 01:18:52 <|amethyst> that then gets written to the "lua" chunk of the save 01:19:22 <|amethyst> which is then executed on load 01:19:25 oh 01:19:54 <|amethyst> So I made a debug command like &^T but using clua 01:20:07 <|amethyst> and chk_lua_save does contain something 01:21:40 hmm, I guess you don't quite need quines here since the bulk of the code involved can be in the rcfile or something it includes ... 01:22:49 though, you'd lose data if you screwed up the code used to load it ... 01:23:43 <|amethyst> I think I see part of what broke it 01:23:46 <|amethyst> %git a2f257ae 01:23:46 07kilobyte02 * 0.8.0-a0-739-ga2f257a: Store the "lua" subfile as a chunk. 10(3 years, 2 months ago, 7 files, 41+ 20-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=a2f257aecb00 01:24:42 -!- Xelif has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:26:14 <|amethyst> write_array's argument was removed, but not from the parameter list 01:27:03 * SamB points the finger accusingly at 1KB 01:28:10 03|amethyst02 07* 0.14-a0-854-g5f91bcc: Fix gearset saving problem. 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=5f91bcc09301 01:28:20 <|amethyst> I can verify that with the fix it does get saved 01:29:03 -!- keszocze has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 01:36:23 yay, thanks 01:37:11 <|amethyst> you can check this with crawl -edit-save get lua - 01:37:44 <|amethyst> AFAICT gearset is the only thing that uses the functionality 01:37:55 yeah 01:38:20 and it seems unlikely anyone has tried to use gearset in the last three years 01:40:13 that -edit-save command is useful, thanks 01:49:37 -!- rossi has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.2] 01:51:00 -!- minqmay has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:52:26 Unstable branch on crawl.lantea.net updated to: 0.14-a0-852-g0ba292f (34) 01:52:47 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 01:58:09 -!- mong has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:01:47 -!- bitsailor has quit [Quit: bitsailor] 02:02:01 -!- SkaryMonk has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 02:05:33 -!- keszocze has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 02:07:27 -!- VolteccerJack has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Would you like to know more?] 02:12:17 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 02:14:02 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 02:20:15 -!- Stelpa6 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:20:45 -!- SkaryMonk has joined ##crawl-dev 02:22:03 -!- Mateji has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:26:52 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:29:34 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 02:31:47 03|amethyst02 07* 0.14-a0-855-g0b10bd3: Wizmode command &^U for a clua prompt. 10(70 seconds ago, 4 files, 13+ 8-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=0b10bd3b8a69 02:32:07 <|amethyst> <+elliptic> |amethyst: do you know how to access lua functions defined in rcfile inside the interpreter? 02:32:12 <|amethyst> There you go 02:32:18 yay :) 02:47:19 -!- Dr_Ke has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 02:53:38 -!- raskol has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 03:01:35 -!- simmarine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:12:32 -!- rchandra has left ##crawl-dev 03:12:44 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:18:43 -!- Yezarul has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:20:26 -!- ark_ has joined ##crawl-dev 03:22:03 -!- magicpoints has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:26:55 -!- Tarquinn has joined ##crawl-dev 03:30:04 -!- Pepe has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:50:40 -!- gammafunk has quit [Quit: gammafunk] 03:57:43 -!- kait_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:57:43 -!- kait__ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:57:44 -!- kait has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:58:03 -!- dtsund has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 04:09:15 -!- klang has quit [Quit: Page closed] 04:19:49 -!- conted has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 04:22:15 -!- SkaryMonk1 has joined ##crawl-dev 04:23:27 -!- SkaryMonk has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:25:57 -!- inspector071 has quit [Quit: inspector071] 04:34:00 -!- scummos^ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 04:34:37 -!- Nstar has quit [] 04:40:45 -!- shock__ has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 25.0/20131025151332]] 04:44:27 -!- alefury has joined ##crawl-dev 04:53:05 -!- frank___ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 04:56:30 -!- Karagy has quit [Quit: Page closed] 05:01:23 -!- gio__ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:03:04 -!- Giomancer has joined ##crawl-dev 05:04:34 -!- keszocze has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 05:22:14 -!- Burer has quit [Changing host] 05:27:07 -!- TacoSundae has quit [Quit: Page closed] 05:28:58 -!- Bloax has quit [Quit: Error: Bloax not found] 05:33:56 -!- Burer has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 05:34:17 -!- Burer has quit [Changing host] 05:38:56 -!- Burer has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 05:52:13 -!- Giomancer has quit [Quit: Leaving] 05:53:12 -!- Basil has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 05:55:07 -!- dagonfive1 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:02:16 -!- Burer_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 06:11:03 isn't it weird that step from time increases turn count(game time) by only 1? 06:11:16 even if it lasts longer 06:12:10 also, wouldn't it be nice to have a more prompt each turn to see where monsters are going, like when you are paralyzed? 06:16:47 -!- eith has joined ##crawl-dev 06:22:04 -!- SkaryMonk has joined ##crawl-dev 06:22:25 -!- tw__ is now known as tw_ 06:24:20 -!- SkaryMonk1 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 06:31:37 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Signing in (Daekdroom)] 06:36:37 -!- Sgeo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:39:37 -!- scummos^ has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 06:39:59 galehar: I always thought as step from time as removing yourself from the world for a duration, so imo it would be strange to see where things are going 06:44:11 -!- eith has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:47:18 -!- scummos^ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 06:48:57 -!- poopfist42 has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 07:01:03 -!- Mateji has quit [Quit: Leaving] 07:25:02 -!- Burer_ has quit [Quit: Держи гранату, баклан!] 07:27:27 maybe. It's still strange that the game time is only increased by 10 aut 07:31:11 -!- GuraKKa has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:31:20 -!- buppy has joined ##crawl-dev 07:36:16 <|amethyst> galehar: oh, when you said "turn count" I thought you meant player turns... yeah, it should take more aut than 1.0 07:36:22 <|amethyst> s/1\.0/10/ 07:36:28 <|amethyst> "After some time has passed, you will return in the same state as the very 07:36:29 <|amethyst> second you departed." 07:37:54 I guess it depends on whether it's supposed to represent time from the world's perspective or your character's 07:38:10 <|amethyst> considering that the world ends when the number of AUT gets too high... 07:38:23 haha 07:38:32 has that ever actually happened 07:38:51 <|amethyst> !lg apocalypserobin x=aut,turns 07:38:52 11. [aut=0;turn=199999999] apocalypserobin the Farming Insei (L3 VpMo), quit the game in the Temple (circular_temple_6) on 2011-10-25 16:08:51, with 67 points after 199999999 turns and 1d+12:40:50. 07:38:57 <|amethyst> oh 07:39:06 ??apocalypserobin 07:39:07 apocalypserobin[1/2]: !lg apocalypserobin -tv:<0.1 07:39:08 <|amethyst> I guess the world ends when the number of turns gets too high 07:39:16 <|amethyst> how inconsistent :) 07:39:27 why is aut 0 there? 07:39:50 <|amethyst> !lg * aut>0 1 07:39:52 1/508340. Ajax the Apologist (L1 DEPr), worshipper of Zin, got out of the dungeon alive on 2013-03-17 05:10:50, with 20 points after 3 turns and 0:00:11. 07:39:58 <|amethyst> !lg * aut>0 1 x=v 07:40:01 1/508340. [v=0.12.0-a0] Ajax the Apologist (L1 DEPr), worshipper of Zin, got out of the dungeon alive on 2013-03-17 05:10:50, with 20 points after 3 turns and 0:00:11. 07:40:07 !lg * aut>0 1 x=v,aut 07:40:12 1/508340. [v=0.12.0-a0;aut=30] Ajax the Apologist (L1 DEPr), worshipper of Zin, got out of the dungeon alive on 2013-03-17 05:10:50, with 20 points after 3 turns and 0:00:11. 07:40:22 maybe that's time spent on the last action 07:40:29 30 aut to climb stairs sounds right 07:41:13 <|amethyst> !lg * max=aut x=aut 07:41:16 2712043. [aut=19880141] Sky the Farming Archmage (L27 SpWz), worshipper of Makhleb, mangled by an Ice Fiend (kmap: evilmike_mini_pan_3x3) in Pandemonium on 2013-06-06 08:13:52, with 1898806 points after 2083303 turns and 22:22:30. 07:41:19 um 07:41:22 or not 07:41:50 given that SfT can easily last 20 or 30 turns (up to 54), a more prompt each turn isn't such a good idea. 07:42:40 but properly increasing the timer has issues, because some player effects depend on it I think 07:43:00 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:43:26 and effects like poison and such aren't supposed to expire during it 07:48:40 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 08:00:58 -!- Tarquinn has quit [Quit: yes] 08:17:16 -!- rossi has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.2] 08:21:15 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 08:21:57 -!- SkaryMonk1 has joined ##crawl-dev 08:22:59 -!- SkaryMonk has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 08:23:17 -!- Stelpa6 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:29:27 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 08:31:19 -!- Morg0th has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 08:36:59 -!- agentgt has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.7] 08:42:31 -!- CedorDark has joined ##crawl-dev 08:46:12 somebody around here or everybody's dead? 08:47:26 I'm not dead! I feel happy! 08:47:48 droopy? 08:47:52 :p 08:48:51 I'd needed some infos on crawl dev, but I think i'll try the ninja learning 08:50:51 -!- keszocze has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 08:54:37 -!- clouded_ has joined ##crawl-dev 08:54:39 -!- st_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:55:55 -!- Croesus has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 09:03:21 -!- hart has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:05:18 -!- Crehl has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:06:54 -!- athros has quit [Client Quit] 09:15:48 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 09:17:25 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 09:25:57 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 09:26:13 -!- fungee has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 09:32:21 -!- clouded_ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 09:33:28 CedorDark: hi! 09:33:44 hi grunt :) 09:34:05 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 09:34:14 I think I start to find The info I need 09:34:25 What are you looking for? 09:35:19 first I was looking for nice developement tools, and I think i have found what I needed 09:35:31 -!- bitsailor has joined ##crawl-dev 09:35:50 and now I have small question on crawl architecture 09:35:57 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 09:36:13 -!- LexAckson has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:36:36 the strangext point for me is the way webtiles is designed 09:36:52 crawl architecture: http://www.meridian.net.au/Art/Artists/MCEscher/Gallery/Images/escher-ascending-and-descending-medium.jpg 09:37:01 I have effectively no expertise on webtiles. 09:37:10 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 09:37:23 The people you'd want to ask about that are Keskitalo or possibly Medar. 09:37:28 ok 09:37:31 but 09:37:49 alefury: You are in a maze of twisty little source code files, all alike. 09:37:51 working on crawl is like... building a version by yourself 09:37:58 nice alefury :p 09:38:06 then uploading it 09:38:16 maybe this is better: http://www.meridian.net.au/Art/Artists/MCEscher/Gallery/Images/escher-relativity-woodcut-medium.jpg 09:38:24 and don't worry about what append on ... other versions? 09:38:48 (like other OS, webtiles, online, etc) 09:39:44 and let experienced people deals with specifics like webtiles? 09:40:25 Well, usually we try to write code in a portable fashion (if you follow what the rest of the code is doing, that should be fine). 09:40:42 yeap, obviously 09:40:42 Webtiles isn't impacted a lot - I think the last things that needed adjustments to webtiles were the interface changes for LO and Dj. 09:41:07 ...which was done separately and afterwards :b 09:41:11 ok 09:41:28 then there is another point that I find a bit.. odd 09:41:34 <|amethyst> CedorDark: what about the way webtiles is designed? 09:41:42 Hi |amethyst. 09:41:46 <|amethyst> I've worked with it a very little bit 09:41:51 hi |amethyst 09:41:56 not designed 09:42:16 wich part of the code handle it 09:42:28 <|amethyst> It has several parts: 09:42:33 'cause there is a point about crawl that really bother me 09:43:01 why isn't some... API or hook availiable? 09:43:09 <|amethyst> 1. Crawl itself: tileweb.cc, tileweb-text.cc, and some other parts. This part just builds json messages that it sends to the server 09:44:06 <|amethyst> 2. The webtiles server (webserver/*.py). This listens for HTTP/websocket connections, launches games of crawl, and communicates with crawl via a Unix-domain socket ("named pipe") 09:44:09 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 09:44:19 ok 09:44:34 That's what I wanted to know 09:44:45 <|amethyst> 3. The client-side code, in webserver/static/scripts/ and webserver/game_data/static/ 09:45:02 ok 09:45:11 I lurk a bit there then 09:45:40 <|amethyst> As for API hooks, mainly someone would have to design and maintain them, including keeping them up-to-date as parts of the game change 09:45:51 <|amethyst> we have a Lua API, but it's kind of limited 09:45:58 ok 09:46:38 <|amethyst> and theoretically you could inspect and manipulate the JSON communications between the webtiles server and client... there's at least one bot out there that talks directly to the webtiles server 09:46:38 -!- Nakatomy has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 09:47:17 yep 09:47:55 another question then 09:48:16 nobody ever tried to make local build communicating with the servers? 09:49:27 well, somebody made nettiles 09:49:28 -!- bitsailor has quit [Quit: bitsailor] 09:49:52 but it parsed the text interface, if I remember correctly? 09:50:07 sems yes 09:51:24 nowadays, I suppose one could make an alternative interface that talks to the webtiles server 09:54:14 -!- crate has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:56:01 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 09:57:05 -!- MDvedh has joined ##crawl-dev 09:57:48 -!- radinms has quit [] 09:57:59 -!- blackcustard has joined ##crawl-dev 09:58:10 grmbl, I really need to crush and clean my system... 09:58:15 I'm not getting it 09:58:24 docs say that "You can set the monster's god using the "god:" specifier as follows: MONS: orc god:the_shining_one" 09:58:35 MDvedh: and? 09:58:36 What does it change? 09:58:43 If i'm setting it's the orc of tso? 09:58:47 MDvedh: flavour text, mostly. 09:59:03 (A couple of settings impact Zin recite eligibility, but other than that it's purely text.) 09:59:06 Will it convert to neutral if i'm tso worshipper? 09:59:17 No; that's reserved for actual holy monsters. 09:59:28 Ok 09:59:30 Thanks 10:00:19 MDvedh: Did you get your layouts for the portal vault working? 10:00:27 Yup 10:00:28 MDvedh: your vaults need to be tagged "ORIENT: encompass" for them to place properly. 10:00:34 Yes, I got it 10:00:35 (in which case the branch doesn't need layouts) 10:00:38 Okay. 10:00:50 But it was like that already 10:01:01 I had default-depth for my portal 10:01:06 But it didn't work 10:01:11 Worked half of the time 10:01:19 Now i set PLACE: and it works 10:01:21 It also needs "PLACE: ", not-- 10:01:23 Aha, yes. 10:01:24 Don't know why 10:01:37 PLACE: guarantees that the vault (or something else with the same PLACE) places there. 10:01:45 DEPTH (and default-depth) don't. 10:02:26 Didn't find any PLACE: instances in wizlab.des 10:02:35 So i thought that's the way to do it. 10:03:09 any idea if someone use netbeans in the dev team? 10:03:42 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 10:11:57 grmbl msysgit don't include mingw anymore... 10:13:49 get mingw @ mingw.org 10:14:40 yep... 10:14:41 -!- SkaryMonk1 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 10:14:57 -!- tinybat has quit [Quit: tinybat] 10:15:54 oh 10:15:59 made a mistake... 10:16:07 took the wrong installer... 10:22:19 -!- raskol has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 10:27:01 -!- tinybat has quit [Client Quit] 10:32:35 -!- gammafunk has quit [Quit: gammafunk] 10:34:02 -!- kunwon1 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:37:49 are my encompass vaults autosurrounded by permawall? 10:41:39 -!- inspector071 has joined ##crawl-dev 10:43:18 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:47:42 for tiles building, I suppose lib SDL 2.0 is supported? (instead of 1.2 as in install.txt) 10:49:08 2.0 is a largeish api change, I believe 10:49:18 someone was poking at one point and eventually gave up 10:49:21 hat's why I ask 10:50:52 -!- DracheReborn has quit [Quit: Bye] 10:53:25 -!- Wensley_ is now known as Wensley 10:54:53 can beneficial mutation be changed so that (barring some sort of mutation resistance) it always does something? 10:58:13 CedorDark, updating local tiles to use sdl 2.0 and its render API would be nice, I guess 10:59:21 CedorDark, noone of the currently active developers wants to have much to do with local tiles though :P 10:59:29 ok 10:59:37 -!- Burer has quit [Quit: Держи гранату, баклан!] 10:59:59 it'as only for a build testing purpose 11:00:00 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 11:00:00 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:00:16 (I won't work on tiles too) 11:01:30 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 11:05:46 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.14-a0-855-g0b10bd3 (34) 11:09:31 -!- rossi has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.2] 11:12:27 -!- magistern has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 11:15:46 -!- Tabesh has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:22:48 -!- rchandra has joined ##crawl-dev 11:23:55 -!- DrinkMachine has joined ##crawl-dev 11:29:16 -!- inspector071 has quit [Quit: inspector071] 11:32:39 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 11:35:15 -!- pwnmonkey has quit [Client Quit] 11:39:49 -!- alefury has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Iceweasel 24.0/20130918041159]] 11:40:48 -!- pwnmonkey has quit [Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 11:41:12 -!- ground4 has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.2] 11:43:28 -!- inspector071 has joined ##crawl-dev 11:44:02 -!- inspector071 has quit [Client Quit] 11:44:59 -!- Foamed has quit [Quit: Heading to bed.] 11:54:23 -!- tinybat has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 11:54:43 -!- Burer has quit [Changing host] 11:55:17 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Saindo] 11:56:50 -!- CedorDark has quit [Quit: Quitte] 11:59:43 -!- hart has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:59:45 -!- Burer has quit [Quit: Держи гранату, баклан!] 12:00:42 -!- absolutego has joined ##crawl-dev 12:13:53 -!- Xenobreeder has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:14:43 -!- floatboth has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:14:51 Where can i see floord/wall tile names? 12:15:08 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 12:21:49 -!- Foamed has quit [Quit: Heading to bed.] 12:23:05 -!- Poncheis has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 25.0/20131025151332]] 12:28:30 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 12:31:52 -!- LexAckson_ has joined ##crawl-dev 12:32:47 -!- soundlust has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 12:34:03 <|amethyst> MDvedh: the name for a particular tile in game? local tiles does this in wizmode if you hover over it 12:34:11 -!- LexAckson has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 12:34:18 <|amethyst> BG: 750 | 0x 0 (WALL_BRICK_DARK_1) 12:34:21 <|amethyst> etc 12:34:32 i can't hover over it because i haven't placed it yet >.< 12:34:34 <|amethyst> and FLV: floor: 6 (FLOOR_GREY_DIRT_4) (0) 12:34:43 However i found it already :) 12:34:57 <|amethyst> ah, I misunderstood your question 12:35:12 -!- CedorDark has joined ##crawl-dev 12:35:39 -!- sd1989_ has joined ##crawl-dev 12:38:09 -!- bmfx has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:38:29 -!- sd1989 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 12:39:13 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:39:31 -!- SteampunkDuck has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 12:48:16 I want to report a bug 12:49:06 <|amethyst> go on... 12:49:16 When I save my game and then come back i see all floor tiles are the same 12:49:38 I mean not limestone_1, limestone_2, limestone_w/e shuffled 12:49:41 Just one of them 12:49:49 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:50:22 I was cloning git like 2 days ago 12:50:33 And then rebuilt it 12:50:50 Pretty sure didn't touch anything that could do that 12:54:41 <|amethyst> I'm definitely not seeing that behaviour 12:55:04 http://steppic.com/show/3885f380bf0febcf5921866f81f1b5ab.html 12:55:08 like that 12:55:14 wait a second 12:55:30 Not all tiles 12:55:34 Just limestone ones 12:55:38 And walls 12:55:47 Regular dungeon floor seems to be ok 12:56:24 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 12:57:45 uberrath: does this game still exist? I can extend the Vaults/Zot check to Abyss ando co quite easily. 12:57:50 -!- kilobyte_ is now known as kilobyte 12:58:03 <|amethyst> kilobyte: I fixed uberrath's game 12:58:10 cool 12:58:25 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 12:58:27 do you think there are more folks with the problem, especially among offline players? 12:58:40 <|amethyst> probably, since G-Flex (swinepaste) had the same issue 12:58:54 ok 12:59:29 as for gearset: if no one noticed the code being broken for 3 years, perhaps it would find a better home in /dev/null? 12:59:36 <|amethyst> it's not completely straightforward to extend the check, since brentry[BRANCH_ABYSS] is anb invalid level 13:00:00 <|amethyst> so we'd need some other way of checking 13:00:05 yeah, I'll need to move that check to the outer function 13:00:25 <|amethyst> hm 13:00:33 well, that issue seems to be vault-specific 13:00:40 <|amethyst> in uberrath's case at least, there is another issue 13:00:50 I can't reproduce it in other vaults 13:00:53 <|amethyst> he didn't enter D:25 until after the transfer 13:01:20 <|amethyst> so Grunt's depth_chance code for those branch entries *should* have placed the abyss entry 13:01:26 it's still D:25 13:01:29 ah, right 13:02:31 <|amethyst> so if that's fixed, the only saves that will need a kludgy fix are ones that were first transferred to a version between split and that fix, explored down to late D, then transferred to a newer version after the hypothetical fix 13:02:39 what's up with ccache? decks.cc:601: error: undefined reference to `CrawlVector::erase(unsigned char)' and a buttload more, which disappeared after mere "make clean" 13:02:45 <|amethyst> MDvedh: which vault? 13:02:52 wait wrong, not ccache, just regular make 13:02:59 My vault 13:03:31 about &^U: what's the point in restricting that to wizmode? 13:03:50 you can already do anything you want by saving, editing the rcfile, coming back 13:04:01 -!- tinybat has quit [Quit: tinybat] 13:04:14 which is tedious as hell just to check something 13:04:24 <|amethyst> kilobyte: it involved less cursor motion between copying and pasting :/ 13:04:32 hah :) 13:04:33 <|amethyst> kilobyte: i.e. no good reason 13:04:42 guys, does anyone else reported finding identified potion of flight? 13:04:55 <3 for bringing this up, by the way 13:04:59 <|amethyst> MDvedh: and you're using FTILE: blah = floor_limestone 13:05:06 <|amethyst> MDvedh: ? 13:05:07 Yup 13:05:08 CedorDark: in a particular vault, like some baileys? 13:05:16 nop 13:05:27 oh right 13:05:29 <|amethyst> MDvedh: if you manually place one of the other vaults that uses floor_limestone and save and restore, the issue doesn't happen? 13:05:30 sewer 13:05:37 <|amethyst> CedorDark: yeah, that's intentional 13:05:42 I'll check it right now 13:05:55 ah, strange 13:06:05 <|amethyst> MDvedh: also try placing your vault again and saving and restoring, in case it's something weird that happened to your save in between 13:06:16 <|amethyst> CedorDark: whenever a vault places fixed (as opposed to random) loot, we identify it 13:06:31 <|amethyst> CedorDark: since to do otherwise would unduely reward spoilers 13:06:32 ah 13:06:33 ok 13:06:44 then it lead to strange behavior then 13:06:58 <|amethyst> Not to say that vaults in general don't reward spoilers, but at least we try :) 13:07:14 the sewer with evilyon altar break the fun then 13:07:18 <|amethyst> CedorDark: strange how? 13:07:29 find 4 potion 13:07:39 1 curing, 1 heal wound, 1 flight 13:07:48 only the last one is unidentifed 13:07:56 I find it broking the ID game 13:08:06 <|amethyst> were they all in the same place? 13:08:35 yep one of the sewer 13:08:38 <|amethyst> The ID game is not much of one anyway; it's not as important to us as, say, in Nethack 13:08:50 it's true 13:08:50 checked it out, seems to be limestone-specific 13:08:52 <|amethyst> I mean, were they all in one pile, or was the flight potion elsewhere on the level 13:09:00 try it with tso_altar vault 13:09:12 no, it's the 4 potion loot 13:09:15 <|amethyst> MDvedh: You should !tell ontoclasm your findings 13:09:29 (must lurk in the maps...) 13:09:33 <|amethyst> MDvedh: or file it on mantis 13:09:38 <|amethyst> MDvedh: (or both) 13:09:42 ok 13:09:48 <|amethyst> MDvedh: Because that probably shouldn't happen 13:10:07 <|amethyst> MDvedh: Also look into other vaults that set particular FTILEs to see if they have the same issue 13:10:21 <|amethyst> I guess we're not saving the tile flavour, but also not recomputing it on load 13:10:31 I'll ask my friend to check it on his local version 13:10:44 Maybe it's just my build 13:10:53 well, it was the first sewer vault... 13:12:10 you have 4 separate potions as reward near the altar 13:12:19 <|amethyst> probably that sewer doesn't need the water 13:12:27 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 13:12:27 <|amethyst> err 13:12:30 <|amethyst> the flight 13:12:36 I think so 13:12:50 it's probably to tempt people to go deeper 13:12:51 <|amethyst> It's for a silly 1/12 chance of having an extra item off over deep water 13:13:00 and drown 13:13:08 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 13:13:18 Oh 13:13:26 there is an item there? 13:13:34 I think I never treid to go there... 13:13:35 <|amethyst> CedorDark: 1/12 chance 13:13:38 not often 13:13:54 I never saw this part of the place 13:14:14 <|amethyst> I only go if I have permanent swimming or flight, and even then I usually don't bother (but I might happen to press o) 13:14:57 I just learned something on vaults :) 13:15:37 I'd like make some vault (but I lack some basic skills...) 13:15:46 ha ha. Messing with Crawl on three different machines simultaneously, with various state of the tree. I switch to one terminal, see that it has a dark prompt ending with bright yellow "(master)$", so I git pull --rebase;!make. Accidentally started a kernel build :) 13:16:13 had a week+ old terminal in the kernel dir (still sort in the "teh first kernel patch" mode) 13:16:30 heh, whoops 13:16:58 having the git branch in your prompt is great, by the way 13:17:07 yup, that's a global issue 13:17:20 my friend reports the same behaviour 13:18:11 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 13:19:33 -!- ldf has quit [Quit: ldf] 13:23:56 -!- moxian has joined ##crawl-dev 13:31:43 -!- moxian has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:33:54 floor_limestone displays incorrectly after reload by MDvedh 13:35:30 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 13:35:33 -!- CKyle has quit [*.net *.split] 13:35:33 -!- buppy has quit [*.net *.split] 13:35:33 -!- ark_ has quit [*.net *.split] 13:35:33 -!- RiotInferno has quit [*.net *.split] 13:35:34 -!- y2s82 has quit [*.net *.split] 13:35:34 -!- Moredread has quit [*.net *.split] 13:35:34 -!- _sk_ has quit [*.net *.split] 13:35:34 -!- jbenedetto has quit [*.net *.split] 13:35:34 -!- Nivim has quit [*.net *.split] 13:35:34 -!- oddshocks has quit [*.net *.split] 13:37:04 MDvedh: not floor_limestone, every single floor and wall. Try this: save in Pan, reload, compare tiles before and after. 13:37:41 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 13:37:41 kilobyte: didn't work for me last time 13:37:46 -!- Nivim has joined ##crawl-dev 13:37:47 -!- buppy has joined ##crawl-dev 13:37:57 -!- Foamed has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:38:02 -!- ark_ has joined ##crawl-dev 13:39:26 nope, pan seems to be ok 13:39:30 hmm, looks like these are different issues 13:40:05 -!- Foamed has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:40:15 Pan loses the kind of flavour, but randomization stays. On limestone, though, after reload the flavour stays but there is no randomization anymore. 13:44:01 -!- MDvedh has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:45:37 -!- PolkaDot has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 13:47:08 -!- ark__ has joined ##crawl-dev 13:47:45 03kilobyte02 07* 0.14-a0-856-gb914cbe: Mark strings that must retain their current format even after a save break. 10(8 days ago, 1 file, 28+ 16-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=b914cbecbcb5 13:47:45 03kilobyte02 07* 0.14-a0-857-g82d523b: Fix ugly looking lone slabs of limestone in holy_pan tiles. 10(5 minutes ago, 1 file, 6+ 6-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=82d523b668c2 13:50:07 what would you guys say about simplifying the rules of parenthesizing "return (x);" to just "never"? 13:50:23 this one can easily be checked for and amended automatically 13:50:45 -!- ark_ has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 13:50:48 (to be honest I already have a script committed on a machine waiting for a push :p ) 13:54:52 heh, https://lkml.org/lkml/2013/10/31/460 says I'm not alone. Should have found this before cargo-culting the balanced parentheses "regular" expression magic in myself. 13:58:39 -!- Vaporware has joined ##crawl-dev 13:58:39 -!- Vaporware has quit [Changing host] 13:58:39 -!- Vaporware has joined ##crawl-dev 13:59:57 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 14:00:05 -!- irctc749 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:00:36 -!- Valarioth has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:00:41 -!- Quashie has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 14:01:23 -!- OCTOTROG has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:05:02 -!- Hailley has quit [Quit: Petra is closed!] 14:08:34 -!- Vaporware has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:11:12 -!- kunwon1 has joined ##crawl-dev 14:14:12 hm, any thoughts on removing the difference between taking known/unknown shafts? 14:14:48 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 14:18:25 -!- Basil has joined ##crawl-dev 14:21:05 -!- Roarke has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:21:45 -!- Foamed has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:21:53 Balanced parentheses regular expression magic? :P That sounds worrying somehow 14:22:30 (return (x)); 14:22:35 -!- rupert_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 14:25:14 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 14:26:32 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 14:28:53 -!- DrinkMachine has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:29:46 -!- Basil has quit [Read error: Connection timed out] 14:30:00 with so many protests, I'm pushing. The "revert" button is over there -----> 14:30:11 -!- Basil has joined ##crawl-dev 14:30:59 03kilobyte02 07* 0.14-a0-858-g1eb5ba8: Use equality rather than a prefix match for enabling tests. 10(2 days ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=1eb5ba87ee17 14:30:59 03kilobyte02 07* 0.14-a0-859-gcede7d6: Don't allocate pointless iterators. 10(2 days ago, 32 files, 63+ 63-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=cede7d61d912 14:30:59 03kilobyte02 07* 0.14-a0-860-g51aa1dc: Drop a few return () cases that confuse my sed. 10(2 days ago, 3 files, 4+ 3-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=51aa1dcc0663 14:30:59 03kilobyte02 07* 0.14-a0-861-g04ab49b: Drop unnecessary parentheses from return statements. 10(28 hours ago, 164 files, 1017+ 1017-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=04ab49bde8bf 14:30:59 03kilobyte02 07* 0.14-a0-862-g774998e: Automated brace removal. 10(23 hours ago, 3 files, 0+ 6-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=774998e02372 14:30:59 03kilobyte02 07* 0.14-a0-863-g0b023e0: Teach util/unbrace that "return" is not a function. 10(23 hours ago, 1 file, 25+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=0b023e03c57e 14:30:59 03kilobyte02 07* 0.14-a0-864-gadbefe8: Change the coding conventions to forbid "return (x);" instead of "return x;". 10(28 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 10-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=adbefe88a525 14:31:26 -!- Adeon has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:32:17 kilobyte: you forgot to preface this push with "Brace yourself" 14:33:10 braces are unrelated here 14:33:32 scripting makes a coding style nazi work easier :p 14:34:01 -!- Foamed_ has quit [Quit: Heading to bed.] 14:36:04 -!- necKro has quit [Quit: leaving] 14:36:10 -!- OCTOTROG has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:36:18 * SamB sometimes likes to use extra braces in if/else if/.../else chains ... 14:36:35 heretic! 14:36:45 well, I mean, to make the bodies match 14:36:45 !lg SamB title=heretic 14:36:46 No games for SamB (title=heretic). 14:39:32 -!- mikee_ has joined ##crawl-dev 14:41:22 grmbl, can't find the info again 14:41:43 for git, I need to have unix endlines for commits? 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15:40:53 ackack: +1 15:41:09 I think doing this per-item wouldn't be too spammy 15:41:32 could do some grouping, but per-item should be good enough 15:41:34 it would be shorter than the spell list for anybody who casts spells more often than not, i would think 15:43:41 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 15:47:52 kilobyte: would have been funnier if you said ACK instead of +1, but I guess that would have been somewhat ambiguous ... 15:47:56 TZer0: Lantea seems frozen? 15:48:14 SamB: NAK 15:48:15 yep 15:48:25 heavy lag I think 15:48:46 (or he is really broken) 15:49:22 It was heavy lag. 15:49:30 And then it just straight-up freezed. 15:49:55 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:50:04 F5 lead to endless call, so I think it's broken 15:50:18 let's wait for a restart 15:51:33 -!- caleba has quit [Quit: caleba] 15:51:40 -!- mikee_ has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <-] 15:52:30 -!- Giomancer has joined ##crawl-dev 15:54:26 -!- alefury has joined ##crawl-dev 15:56:02 -!- Wahaha has quit [] 16:01:16 -!- myrmidette has quit [Client Quit] 16:01:48 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 16:04:36 -!- valtern has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:05:45 <|amethyst> kilobyte: are you making changes to that regexp 16:05:54 <|amethyst> kilobyte: because if not, I have a few 16:06:17 <|amethyst> if I can get them to work again 16:10:18 none, go ahead 16:10:42 * kilobyte admits its mostly the first working version, rather than something with conscious clean-up applied. 16:10:53 s/its/it's/ 16:17:52 -!- darktwinge is now known as Twinge 16:25:01 <|amethyst> kilobyte: btw, speaking of coding conventions, thoughts on (*fptr)(args) versus fptr(args) ? 16:25:29 <|amethyst> kilobyte: we seem to use the former mostly; there are valid arguments in both directions 16:25:53 I've never pondered the issue 16:26:26 being more visible sounds better to me, even at the cost of terseness 16:26:58 * kilobyte hates function(&var) for this reason. 16:26:59 a similar issue is whether to use & to convert a function name to a pointer explicitly 16:27:17 <|amethyst> 132 files changed, 1176 insertions(+), 1176 deletions(-) 16:27:25 <|amethyst> kilobyte: I caught a few more with my RE :) 16:27:25 * geekosaur idly wonders what crawl convention is for his other C "useless use of parens" 16:27:29 kilobyte, you larned C++ before C? 16:27:33 learned* 16:27:40 CedorDark: C 16:28:17 never used C++ before Crawl, nor after nor concurrently 16:28:17 <|amethyst> CedorDark: kilobyte was referring to declarations, not calls 16:28:19 (sizeof) 16:28:26 ah 16:28:28 ok 16:28:38 * geekosaur was wondering if that was a pun or just Freudian... 16:28:40 I +1 kilobyte then :p 16:28:44 I meant passing pointers that appear to be local variables 16:29:13 they do have an upside: the compiler knows they don't need to be tested for being potentially null 16:29:21 <|amethyst> kilobyte: there are certain places where it makes a lot of sense, but those all involve templates :/ 16:29:34 <|amethyst> and most of them involve const too :) 16:29:44 -!- TacoSundae has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:30:43 yep 16:30:47 SamB: sed -i 's/const coord_def&/coord_def/' -- good idea? 16:30:47 unrelated question 16:30:50 and level_id 16:31:13 galehar said something interesting about tension 16:31:31 any idea I could find some infos about tension in the source? 16:31:34 * kilobyte sicks galehar at Eronarn and vice versa. 16:31:39 D: 16:31:59 <|amethyst> kilobyte: Do the usual ABIs pass small structs in single registers? 16:32:02 (I know I should grep it, but my git fail to retreive the source) 16:32:06 CedorDark: so, tension is in the religion code (last I checked) because the original uses were god-related 16:32:13 ok, thanks 16:32:30 |amethyst: a toolchain question, that's why I'm bothering SamB 16:32:32 you could also look at the diffs for the lava orc patch, as those are highly tension based 16:32:45 right, thanks :) 16:32:45 but even on the stack it appears to me it would be still more effective 16:32:50 -!- crate has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 16:32:56 in general, tension is not good and not getting better :( 16:33:23 too bad 16:33:26 it is one of the major blockers to lava orcs, so i am all in favor of people working on it 16:33:30 I think tension should be a great tool 16:33:47 ...if it worked... 16:33:57 (and should end the poison problem (or the 5-thon)) 16:33:58 <|amethyst> kilobyte: one advantage of const reference there is that if we for some reason decide to make one of those a non-trivial class, call-by-reference won't particularly slow 16:34:28 <|amethyst> kilobyte: then again, if we make one of those a non-trivial class we'll probably have other problems 16:34:29 -!- floatboth has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:34:46 kilobyte, it's probably better as long as it's two longs or less 16:34:59 kilobyte, do note that returning structs is fail on linux/i386 and netbsd/i386 16:35:57 also, both coord_def and level_id use ints inside even though they don't store any big values 16:36:08 just hope no code expects the parameter to be passed const ref 16:36:21 kilobyte, the abi for them requires passing a parameter to store the result and requires the callee to clean up the pointer via 'ret 4' which leads to ugly contortions in the caller 16:36:41 not sure if coord_def would be ok with int8_t, level_id surely would because it's sometimes passed as packed_place which is encoded in 16 bits 16:36:46 -!- Morg0th has quit [Quit: leaving] 16:37:08 jilles: oy vey 16:37:15 <|amethyst> kilobyte: there was something else I noticed earlier; trying to remember 16:37:47 <|amethyst> kilobyte: oh, env.igrid should probably store shorts 16:38:42 <|amethyst> kilobyte: There was a bit of code I was going to mangle but the fact that &igrd(pos) and item.link were different types caused problems 16:39:08 <|amethyst> kilobyte: I ended up writing it in a better way that didn't need them to be the same type, so I didn't look further into it 16:39:20 <|amethyst> kilobyte: there are at least a few printfs that would need to be changed in that case 16:39:37 <|amethyst> s/&// 16:39:52 the compiler didn't point out any for unsigned short igrd 16:40:27 unsigned short promotes to int 16:40:46 <|amethyst> in all variable-argument lists, even in C++? 16:41:00 -!- nickajeglin has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:41:09 even in C++ 16:41:26 hard to do otherwise with varargs/stdarg 16:41:26 <|amethyst> oh, so I guess those aren't an issue 16:41:58 they can be an issue with scanf (but using that is probably a bad idea anyhow) 16:42:40 <|amethyst> kilobyte: I'd be a little wary of making them unsigned, unless item.link is also changed 16:42:52 mm? scanf gets pointers, no? (well, field widths but those should be expected to promote) 16:43:04 (also yes, scanf is best avoided anyway) 16:43:31 geekosaur, yes, so with scanf it will not "just work" if you change int to short or the like 16:44:32 <|amethyst> okay, the changes I manually reviewed look good, but that was only about 20% of them. It compiles, let's ship 16:44:48 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:45:03 03|amethyst02 07* 0.14-a0-865-g0de3765: Fix grammar and add one more example. 10(74 minutes ago, 1 file, 3+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=0de37655ef7d 16:45:03 03|amethyst02 07* 0.14-a0-866-gb65bf4d: Handle more return() forms in util/unbrace 10(30 minutes ago, 1 file, 8+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=b65bf4d5198c 16:45:03 03|amethyst02 07* 0.14-a0-867-ge7b96ff: More formatting fixes for return (...); 10(19 minutes ago, 132 files, 1176+ 1176-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=e7b96ffa70ca 16:46:46 -!- VolteccerJack has quit [Quit: Try HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <-] 16:49:28 -!- Giomancer has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:50:53 -!- Giomancer has joined ##crawl-dev 16:52:55 -!- scummos^ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:53:00 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 16:57:09 03|amethyst02 07* 0.14-a0-868-g32c45a7: Manually fix a few more instances of return (...) 10(4 minutes ago, 6 files, 9+ 9-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=32c45a74182e 16:59:39 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 17:00:58 03|amethyst02 07* 0.14-a0-869-g7994df1: Improve a complaint. 10(33 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=7994df173010 17:08:26 !lg Apollyon decj place=d:4 -log 17:08:27 5. Apollyon, XL4 DECj, T:2941: http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/Apollyon/morgue-Apollyon-20131115-224526.txt 17:15:10 |amethyst: :p the complaint comment 17:15:14 -!- Quashie has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:17:02 probably less telling, though 17:19:56 Naruni: hey, I just noticed that automagic doesn't seem to prioritize more dangerous monsters over weaker monsters or anything like that... is there a reason for this? if not, I'll add some logic for that 17:20:41 -!- conted has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:21:03 <|amethyst> elliptic: other than the range check, could it use the same prioritisation as autofight? 17:21:37 <|amethyst> maybe the range check (target nearer monsters first) makes sense too, but it should be lower on the list than with autofight 17:22:26 yeah, I was just thinking of stealing the prioritization from autofight and moving the distance check much lower 17:23:49 there might be some weird behavior with aiming at one monster through a closer one I guess 17:23:56 -!- Crehl has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:24:05 which would be a reason to keep the distance check high priority 17:24:52 <|amethyst> someone's going to put fireball on automagic and be sad :) 17:25:12 <|amethyst> I guess lightning bolt is an issue too (not with distance particularly, just in general) 17:25:13 it will prompt before hitting themselves with it 17:25:20 <|amethyst> oh, good 17:25:21 -!- Kalir has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 17:25:31 lame 17:25:50 <|amethyst> would be nice but probably not doable with the current lua api to just move those cases later in the list 17:25:58 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 17:26:07 <|amethyst> if we had some way to get a targetter for a spell from Lua 17:26:49 <|amethyst> I'm sure the bots would be happy too 17:26:54 yeah, that would be quite a lot of work I think (would be good at some point though) 17:28:27 by the way, any thoughts about the code duplication between autofight.lua and automagic.lua? I think a lot of it could be avoided by making the functions non-local in one of the files, but that has its own drawbacks 17:28:56 or by merging the two files, but I'd rather not do that until automagic has some testing / is in a more stable form 17:29:40 making the functions non-local would make overriding parts of the code easier 17:29:53 <|amethyst> that's true 17:29:54 currently you need to copy the whole brouchacha 17:29:58 <|amethyst> they would need different names 17:30:06 <|amethyst> or we could put them all in a table 17:30:12 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Quit: Excess flood] 17:30:28 kilobyte: right... originally they were non-local actually, but at some point this was changed, and I forget why exactly 17:30:44 <|amethyst> "try_move" probably isn't the kind of thing you want to poison the player's namespace with 17:30:57 yeah, that's the main thing I can think of 17:31:45 oh, hm, it looks like it was all local when it was added 17:31:49 maybe I'm misremembering 17:32:16 <|amethyst> no idea why attack() isn't local 17:33:00 -!- SkaryMonk has joined ##crawl-dev 17:33:02 probably someone (likely me) just forgot to make it local 17:33:42 <|amethyst> aha 17:33:46 <|amethyst> %git 9f10547b 17:33:46 07elliptic02 * 0.11-a0-2-g9f10547: Merge hit_closest() and hit_adjacent(). 10(1 year, 10 months ago, 1 file, 9+ 20-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=9f10547b7d7f 17:33:54 <|amethyst> because it was originally hit_closest() :) 17:34:58 Chago123 the Severer (L12 LOFi) ERROR in 'target.cc' at line 928: buggy no_landing_reason (D) 17:35:19 elliptic: yes 17:35:32 <|amethyst> !lm Chago123 crash -log 17:35:32 let me dig up my notes 17:35:33 No milestones for Chago123 (crash). 17:35:41 <|amethyst> !lm Chago123 zotdef crash -log 17:35:42 No milestones for Chago123 (zotdef crash). 17:35:45 <|amethyst> !lm Chago123 sprint crash -log 17:35:46 3. Chago123, XL12 LOFi, T:1324 (milestone): http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/Chago123/crash-Chago123-20131115-233456.txt 17:36:06 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 17:36:08 <|amethyst> !tell gammafunk !lm Chago123 sprint crash 3 -log 17:36:09 |amethyst: OK, I'll let gammafunk know. 17:37:51 <|amethyst> btw, completely off-topic... how long will it be before "turn of the century" with no qualifiers refers to 2000 instead of 1900? 17:39:32 -!- Ipsum_ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 17:39:50 elliptic: local function compare_monster_info(m1, m2) from autofight wasnt working for automagic, i couldn't understand why. I made the choice to keep automagic as a basic function to keep the code simple enough to be useful for low-level magic users, not a complete replacement of the magic interface for players 17:40:54 -!- CKyle has quit [Client Quit] 17:40:58 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 17:42:44 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 17:43:07 |amethyst: I wonder if it was mesmerize from the axe 17:43:07 gammafunk: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 17:43:34 I'll have to wiz mode that 17:43:35 well, I understand wanting to keep automagic simple, but it seems like simple logic of the sort that autofight uses will make it much more usable than just iterating over LoS and taking the first monster in range 17:43:56 <|amethyst> elliptic: (that would also be nice for z) 17:44:33 <|amethyst> "Why, yes, thank you, I would like to fire iron shot at that bat" 17:44:51 |amethyst: it's target.cc:950 17:45:04 The return is before the set of blocked_landing_reason 17:45:05 <|amethyst> haha 17:45:25 I have cast LCS on a bat intentionally several times in my crawl career! 17:46:09 to me, the issue coding that logic is not to have a lua script decide "instead of magic darting this orc who is almost dead wielding a venom dagger right next to you, im gonna throw it at that ogre 7 squares away who just walked into view" 17:46:16 -!- st_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:46:21 -!- clouded_ has joined ##crawl-dev 17:46:22 elliptic: what about Fire Storm on a toadstool? 17:46:28 03|amethyst02 07* 0.14-a0-870-g7fb6798: Fix a jump-attack assert (gammafunk) 10(74 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=7fb6798db902 17:46:30 -!- clouded_ is now known as st_ 17:46:32 on a siflich, it takes far longer to move your fingers to some other spell than to just firestorm that bat or ufetubus 17:46:34 Grunt: just LCS on toadstool 17:46:37 elliptic: :( 17:46:43 but if you guys are ok with taking that out of the player's hands, i'd happily code in some brains to the target selection 17:46:43 fire storm creates all those clouds that get in the way 17:46:48 (I think I have Fire Stormed a toadstool at least once!!) 17:47:15 <|amethyst> Naruni: range could be a factor, and possibly still a highly-prioritised one 17:47:37 since people are complaining, might as well ask... TZer0: around? 17:47:37 <|amethyst> Naruni: but if you have an ogre and a bat both standing next to you, it probably shouldn't be dumber than autofight 17:47:44 Naruni: well, as |amethyst suggested earlier, for now I can just steal stuff from autofight and we can test it out 17:47:47 * kilobyte <3 <3 <3s alefury for telling me to bind . to aa 17:48:00 kilobyte, alefury: <3 17:48:04 |amethyst: Wouldn't our normal build flags generate a warning for code like that? 17:48:05 kilobyte: yeah, . to aa is the classic mu of sif macro 17:48:13 that's pretty good 17:48:14 autofight will prefer the bat currently, most of the time 17:48:22 re: jumping, should felids still be able to jump in forms? 17:48:41