00:02:01 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Client Quit] 00:02:24 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.14-a0-788-g14b720c (34) 00:03:14 -!- magicpoints has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 00:04:01 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:05:52 Unstable branch on rl.heh.fi updated to: 0.14-a0-788-g14b720c (34) 00:07:41 -!- Somefellow has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in] 00:08:12 -!- Somefellow has joined ##crawl-dev 00:11:41 -!- st_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:12:08 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 00:14:52 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:15:13 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 00:16:22 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.14-a0-788-g14b720c (34) 00:35:41 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.14-a0-788-g14b720c 00:40:15 -!- bitsailor has quit [Quit: bitsailor] 00:41:55 -!- _dd has joined ##crawl-dev 00:43:01 ??fizzing potion 00:43:01 I don't have a page labeled fizzing_potion in my learndb. 00:43:06 ??potion of fizzing 00:43:07 I don't have a page labeled potion_of_fizzing in my learndb. 00:43:29 We *really* had two potions of water? o_0 00:43:42 potion of seltzer 00:44:57 -!- mong has quit [Disconnected by services] 00:46:54 -!- jeanjacques has joined ##crawl-dev 00:48:16 can't it be Fanta 00:50:14 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 00:50:18 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 00:51:19 -!- Roarke has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:52:53 %git HEAD^{/fizzing} 00:52:55 07due02 * 0.8.0-a0-4765-g9901425: Fix #3225: don't list fizzing potions in identification screens. 10(2 years, 10 months ago, 1 file, 6+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=99014256db21 00:53:11 %git HEAD^{/izzing} 00:53:12 07due02 * 0.8.0-a0-4765-g9901425: Fix #3225: don't list fizzing potions in identification screens. 10(2 years, 10 months ago, 1 file, 6+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=99014256db21 00:53:20 %git HEAD^{/izzing}^^{/izzing} 00:53:21 07due02 * 0.8.0-a0-4388-g315efd1: Don't randomly generate fizzing potions, nor mimic them. 10(2 years, 10 months ago, 5 files, 12+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=315efd1a6698 00:53:27 %git HEAD^{/izzing}^^{/izzing}^^{/izzing} 00:53:28 07due02 * 0.8.0-a0-4385-g0ece95b: Add the necessary enums, etc, for Homunculus spell. 10(2 years, 10 months ago, 3 files, 7+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=0ece95b4b3bc 00:53:32 ^ 00:53:40 <|amethyst> %git HEAD^{/fizz} 00:53:40 07kilobyte02 * 0.13-a0-2436-g409f2ac: Let homunculi and souplings fizz away. 10(4 months ago, 12 files, 16+ 26-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=409f2aceb62e 00:53:42 has anyone ever suggested being able to put a level limit on a skill? 00:53:49 wtf is a homonculus 00:53:54 e.g. put a lvl 5 cap on shields 00:53:55 ??homonculus 00:53:56 I don't have a page labeled homonculus in my learndb. 00:54:03 where I'll be alerted when it's lvl 5 00:54:12 I mean, you see the message 00:54:14 -!- raskol has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 00:54:17 maybe I just need to learn to read 00:54:18 what was the point of fizzling potions 00:54:20 <|amethyst> johnstein: it's been suggested... it could probably be done in lua 00:54:23 unknown monster: "homonculus" 00:54:23 %??homonculus 00:54:38 Lightli: maybe evaporate? 00:55:04 <|amethyst> johnstein: but if that's your only skill it would have to pop up the menu 00:55:06 unknown monster: "humanculus" 00:55:06 %??humanculus 00:55:09 unknown monster: "humunculus" 00:55:09 %??humunculus 00:55:16 -!- ophanim has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:55:29 unknown monster: "homunculus" 00:55:29 <|amethyst> %??homunculus 00:55:33 unknown monster: "homunculus" 00:55:34 <|amethyst> %0.9?homunculus 00:56:02 that does appear to be the correct spelling at least ... 00:56:37 -!- magicpoints has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:57:25 johnstein: I wish we could do explicit skill scheduling. 00:58:12 -!- Hal9k- has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:58:45 overtraining isn't a big deal, especially with new draining. johnstein, you can pur force-mores for common breakpoints like shields 5/9/15 or axes 26, etc. or all skill levels if you really want. 01:00:01 what does new draining have to do with it? 01:00:02 -!- Hal9k has quit [Changing host] 01:00:14 SamB: it can make sense to overtrain if you're worried about draining 01:00:16 <|amethyst> SamB: because if you're drained it can drop you below the breakpoint 01:00:37 oh, right 01:00:55 it's also a minor bardiche/exec axe penalty :) 01:01:00 -!- dg_ has joined ##crawl-dev 01:06:02 -!- Tabesh has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:11:07 -!- mikee_ has joined ##crawl-dev 01:18:35 -!- magistern has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 01:26:27 -!- rchandra has left ##crawl-dev 01:27:53 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:30:25 -!- leetdood has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:42:54 -!- bh has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:43:15 hmm. I drank a potion of mutation and read: 01:43:18 You feel extremely strange. 01:43:20 You feel a little hungry. Your metabolism slows. 01:43:22 Yellow scales grow over part of your body. 01:43:26 I see the yellow scales 01:43:32 but I don't see slow metabolism 01:43:40 -!- Sabaki has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:44:20 http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/johnstein/johnstein.txt 01:44:58 unless the 'you feel a little hungry' is the fast metabolism and the slow metab cancelled it out 01:45:04 <|amethyst> yes 01:45:09 <|amethyst> that's exactly what happened 01:45:30 <|amethyst> it probably even says that in ?: 01:45:39 <|amethyst> but I haven't tested 01:50:47 holy crap! didn't know about ?: 01:51:21 7102 | D:9 | Gained mutation: You have a fast metabolism. [potion of| mutation] 01:51:23 7102 | D:9 | Lost mutation: You have a fast metabolism. [potion of| mutation] 01:51:25 7102 | D:9 | Gained mutation: You are partially covered in yellow scales 01:51:27 ty 01:55:50 Unstable branch on crawl.lantea.net updated to: 0.14-a0-788-g14b720c (34) 02:01:01 -!- Quashie has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:05:18 -!- sd1989 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:06:35 -!- sd1989 has joined ##crawl-dev 02:11:00 hello, did anybody heard anything about my(korea) server? I am so busy, so I didn't check IRC after yesterday... 02:11:01 sd1989: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 02:11:11 !messages 02:11:12 (1/1) greensnark said (14h 35m 46s ago): Could you bzip ttyrecs on the server? ttyrec download is rather slow 02:13:54 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 02:19:04 -!- MP2E has quit [Quit: leaving] 02:24:09 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 02:30:07 -!- BirdoPrey has quit [Quit: BirdoPrey] 02:30:59 -!- kelpie has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:35:42 -!- indspenceable has quit [Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. 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07:16:15 that or equally, yeah 07:16:52 would be better -- equally would reward dropping and picking back up your other empty ones 07:30:16 -!- gammafunk_ has quit [Quit: gammafunk_] 07:31:20 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:36:15 -!- Basil has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 07:37:29 will you change this, or should I? 07:40:24 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 07:42:02 well, if you're volunteering i wouldn't complain :P 07:42:51 * kilobyte should have known when to shut up. 07:43:25 -!- Yermak has quit [Quit: Page closed] 07:45:34 -!- phyphor has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:46:39 heh, well i'm off for a bit but i'm happy to have a look at it later too 07:56:39 -!- kelpie has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 08:00:03 03kilobyte02 07* 0.14-a0-790-gef78db4: Recharge the evoker closest to full first. 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 12+ 10-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=ef78db4d1c76 08:04:53 -!- bmfx has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 08:10:01 -!- Crehl has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:12:06 -!- DaneiTHREE has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:14:46 -!- radinms has quit [] 08:17:43 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 08:37:25 -!- broquaint has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 08:38:13 -!- broquaint has joined ##crawl-dev 08:42:21 here are two patches: 08:42:23 http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=9HvqhkUy 08:42:26 http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=AuZPjcfE 08:42:31 -!- Kenran has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 08:43:11 (they're small and trivial so I don't feel like opening a mantis ticket for them) 08:46:38 -!- oberstein has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:51:58 what's the point of checking if the depth difference is > 0 if the very check above would reject same-level invalid shafts? 08:52:15 are you planning shafting up? 08:54:21 kilobyte: when shaft_dest.depth - you.depth == 1 it isn't rejected 08:54:57 <|amethyst> buppy: I think kilobyte was asking, why not just make it if (!known_shaft) 08:55:25 <|amethyst> buppy: since zero-level and negative shafting is prevented elsewhere 08:56:00 oh, I see, maybe the author of original code had a reason then to not mark milestone for 1-floor shaft 08:56:56 -!- oberstein has joined ##crawl-dev 08:57:19 -!- TacoSundae has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 08:58:22 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 09:00:43 <|amethyst> %git 8427405 09:00:43 07by02 * 0.6.0-a1-1218-g8427405: Add shaft milestone. 10(3 years, 11 months ago, 1 file, 6+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=842740547b48 09:01:02 <|amethyst> was definitely intentional, though the commit message itself doesn't explain the justification 09:01:37 my guess is that it's no different from walking down a stair 09:01:55 <|amethyst> or an escape hatch anyway 09:02:06 -!- Wolfram has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:03:05 |amethyst: should we keep thinking, or just push it? 09:03:22 <|amethyst> did we ever fix the thing where formicid self-shafts count as unknown? 09:05:01 -!- rchandra has joined ##crawl-dev 09:05:02 -!- magicpoints has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 09:08:09 whoops, I think I broke an assert with cb883b1930 09:08:26 probably caused by assigning the mutation before removing helmet in tags.cc 09:12:28 -!- buppy has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:12:49 -!- buppy has joined ##crawl-dev 09:21:26 ok, I definitely caused an assert to break, and here's a quick fix: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=r3jWshNQ 09:24:05 -!- bmfx has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 09:27:03 sorry if it caused any trouble! 09:27:41 <|amethyst> huh? 09:28:07 <|amethyst> oh, it's not safe to call remove_one_equip there I guess 09:28:42 -!- ophanim has joined ##crawl-dev 09:28:56 <|amethyst> Not sure this one's right, though... what if the helmet has an unequip effect 09:30:11 since they shouldn't be wearing a helmet in the first place, I didn't see why unequip effect should happen 09:32:14 -!- neuwiz1 has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2] 09:33:09 <|amethyst> hat I mean 09:33:51 <|amethyst> granted, I'm not sure if any of those exist 09:34:04 yeah, I meant hat too 09:34:32 that new unrand hat has contam I suppose 09:34:47 -!- bmfx has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 09:38:15 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 09:39:53 are we making changes to fo 09:41:40 -!- randart has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 09:52:08 -!- magistern has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 09:55:36 -!- Burer has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:03:15 -!- bmfx has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:03:39 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 10:09:44 -!- dg_ has quit [] 10:12:24 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 10:14:01 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 10:14:16 -!- bhaak has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 10:15:06 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:16:53 -!- randart has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:17:15 -!- crate_ is now known as crate 10:17:34 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 10:18:28 -!- scummos^ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 10:18:55 -!- eith has joined ##crawl-dev 10:20:32 -!- rchandra has left ##crawl-dev 10:21:24 -!- bhaak has joined ##crawl-dev 10:22:36 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:38:16 -!- tksquared_ has quit [Ping timeout: 241 seconds] 10:42:14 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 10:46:37 -!- nonethousand_ has joined ##crawl-dev 10:47:07 -!- nonethousand has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 10:48:20 -!- gammafunk_ has joined ##crawl-dev 10:50:08 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:00:13 -!- TAS_2012v has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 11:03:53 -!- johlstei_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:07:55 -!- raskol has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 11:08:06 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 11:08:40 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.14-a0-790-gef78db4 (34) 11:15:40 -!- gammafunk has quit [Quit: gammafunk] 11:15:40 -!- gammafunk_ is now known as gammafunk 11:15:53 -!- gammafunk has quit [Quit: gammafunk] 11:16:27 -!- mong has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:17:38 -!- bh has joined ##crawl-dev 11:17:40 -!- bh has quit [Client Quit] 11:17:59 -!- bh has joined ##crawl-dev 11:18:05 !seen dpeg 11:18:05 bh: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 11:18:06 I last saw dpeg at Sat Nov 9 15:10:13 2013 UTC (1d 2h 7m 52s ago) quitting with message 'Quit: Lost terminal'. 11:18:08 !messages 11:18:09 (1/1) ChrisOelmueller said (4h 28m 17s ago): okay if one of two is incorrect how about removing the incorrect version? it's like two or three lines above the one you added 11:18:24 !tell chrisoelmueller Marvin already got it 11:18:25 bh: OK, I'll let chrisoelmueller know. 11:19:50 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 11:25:40 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:26:02 gr. There's an unfixed webtiles bug that I introduced to fix a worse bug 11:26:30 When you start casting a spell, your MP bar updates as though you had already cast it and if you cancel, it gets refunded to the bar 11:27:19 -!- bomanz has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:31:59 bh: it seems fine to me 11:32:07 like, it's showing you how much it'll cost to cast it 11:32:18 nicely hilighted in purple 11:35:11 -!- ainsophyao has joined ##crawl-dev 11:36:19 -!- ainsophyao has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:44:21 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 11:51:58 -!- UseBees_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:54:14 -!- bitsailor has joined ##crawl-dev 11:54:58 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:56:54 -!- bmfx has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:56:59 -!- bonghitz_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:00:11 -!- DrinkMachine has joined ##crawl-dev 12:07:39 Slimify Does Not Dismiss Summons by raskol 12:10:26 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:11:37 -!- indspenceable has quit [Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 12:14:36 -!- Hailley has quit [Quit: Petra is closed!] 12:15:55 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:16:16 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 12:21:33 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 12:24:22 re: slimify, the summons will often kill the slime and be then vanish per usual summoner rules 12:24:27 it's actually pretty funny 12:26:34 ophanim: that actually sounds like a fun alternative anti-summ spell to Abjuration 12:26:49 everything they've summoned turns friendly, but will only target the summoner 12:27:03 -!- Wolfram has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:27:09 -!- dg__ has joined ##crawl-dev 12:28:38 |amethyst: your ghost just tried to gank me with summon butterflies. 12:30:47 <|amethyst> bh: haha 12:31:07 <|amethyst> I just had it to train for Canines and Ice Beast 12:31:25 sputterflies is much preferable to those 12:31:35 <|amethyst> nor for killing things :) 12:31:48 <|amethyst> well, unless you have scrolls of immolation I guess 12:32:34 ha. It did it again 12:32:44 it's brilliant for neutralizing archer statues 12:33:10 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 12:33:19 |amethyst: spectate me, you'll be amused 12:33:25 <|amethyst> I am 12:33:32 <|amethyst> the only other spell I had was freezing aura 12:33:42 <|amethyst> so sputterflies is all my ghost will cast 12:34:03 he'll probably still punch me to death 12:34:22 <|amethyst> !lm . fohu -log 12:34:23 neil, XL7 FoHu, T:3051: http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/neil/morgue-neil-20131110-181530.txt 12:36:06 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 12:36:26 -!- bmfx has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:36:26 -!- Basil has joined ##crawl-dev 12:36:49 path finding seems really slow on cszo 12:37:41 <|amethyst> bh: try using the lajatang 12:37:45 <|amethyst> ac of 5 12:37:52 <|amethyst> so it will get through much better 12:38:22 <|amethyst> bam 12:38:23 dang 12:38:49 perhaps I should switch to staves 12:39:15 <|amethyst> don't know if it's worth it with your investment in lbl already... and you can't really improve on a lajatang without evo too 12:39:49 <|amethyst> otoh, you're still stuck with a falchion for now otherwise :) 12:40:16 Ashenzari! 12:40:28 <|amethyst> :) 12:41:08 <|amethyst> and you only need 8 skill to get to down to 10 delay 12:41:16 <|amethyst> and 14 for min 12:41:27 <|amethyst> s/to down/it down/ 12:41:27 -!- bitsailor has quit [Quit: bitsailor] 12:42:09 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 12:42:57 you should spectate me in webtiles so we don't spam #dec 12:43:02 #dev 12:47:20 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 12:47:30 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 12:48:50 -!- keszocze has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:49:32 -!- eeeeeeedsawadwa has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:53:30 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 12:53:37 -!- glow11 has joined ##crawl-dev 12:53:57 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Client Quit] 12:55:34 well... but one monitor for IRC, one monitor for spectating, so where am I supposed to do something productive? 12:55:46 * kilobyte feels a twin-head system is woefully inadequate. 12:57:09 |amethyst: +2,+6 lajatang. I look forward to finding a scroll of branding 12:57:51 kilobyte: do like i do, switch windows and tabs at 120 clicks per minute like it's starcraft 12:58:07 :p 12:58:34 so it seems like my abyss monster generation is mostly non-abyss monsters with a small sprinkling of standard abyss fare 12:58:38 I often set windows to partial transparency (compiz), but with both IRC and crawl messages using text, it doesn't really work 12:58:46 abyss:1 looked mostly like late d, abyss:2 looks mostly like spider 12:58:54 is this intended, or is it supposed to be the other way around? 12:59:11 ackack: 1/3rd of the spawns will be from outside the abyss. At some point you'll see a string of non-abyss spawns 12:59:37 ??clustering illusion 12:59:38 clustering illusion[1/1]: https://google.com/search?q=clustering+illusion 12:59:53 yes, thank you, i'm aware of that 13:00:09 is there any easy way to tally what i've killed in abyss? 13:01:01 I don't think so. Let me look at the code 13:01:15 -!- badplayer has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:01:39 https://gist.github.com/anonymous/7402293 13:02:41 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:02:59 hm, this is really strange 13:03:09 mon-gear.cc says harold should start with throwing nets 13:03:10 that looks right to me, but maybe 1/3 is too high 13:03:15 the killtracker stops recording places after the first five distinct levels you killed that monster on 13:03:15 but he never has them in-game 13:03:42 ontoclasm: I guess that's because current selection picks levels with lots of shit monsters 13:03:45 -!- BirdoPrey has quit [Quit: BirdoPrey] 13:03:53 ontoclasm: or maybe we should use grab bag selection rather than uniform sampling 13:04:02 -!- randart has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 13:04:03 ie. for every three spawns, guarantee one off the abyss 13:04:22 i missed the discussion, what's wrong with the way abyss spawns were before? 13:05:50 Too many demons. 13:05:53 well it's kinda cool to have random dudes wandering around in the abyss, in my opinion 13:05:56 ackack: you mean before they tried to make it pick things from levels? 13:06:11 samb: yes 13:07:10 the way it is now is pretty underwhelming imo 13:07:26 having an abyss level be obviously heavily flavored like a lair branch is weird 13:07:49 ok. I can fix that 13:07:56 ackack: especially early Lair 13:08:24 kilobyte: will it screw with monster selection if I use a level number that never appears in the branch? 13:09:04 bh: IIRC everything above a so-called OOD cap will be capped at such cap 13:09:19 which for most branches is same as that branch's depth, with a few exceptions 13:09:49 like D or Vaults, which heavily rely on OODs having a distribution on its own. Almost all of V:5 comes from that list. 13:09:59 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 13:10:21 poly that hydra! 13:10:23 * kilobyte ducks. 13:10:39 a D:8 hydra? ouchie. 13:12:36 kilobyte: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/7402456 13:14:08 kind of meh: most deeper levels will be instead lowered to 19 13:14:15 -!- tenofswords has joined ##crawl-dev 13:14:38 * kilobyte thinks there's no escaping from hand-crafted list. 13:14:50 for once I'll agree with you 13:14:57 -!- beef42 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:15:18 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 13:15:28 have we got a champion? 13:15:41 ... wait, just realized one thing: writing the level as a string and parsing it on runtime was derided as meh. But it would allow fine-tuning the lists, akin to Ziggurats. 13:16:18 ie, "Lair:8" might be extended to "Lair:8 w:50 / hydra w:20 / catlobe w:10" 13:17:30 -!- indspenceable has quit [Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 13:17:49 your character's tile looks weird... why is that lajatang shaped like a hourglass, rather than two scimitars glued to a stick? 13:17:58 -!- Foamed has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 13:19:26 hourglass sounds more correct for the description and available resolution, scimitars somewhat wrong 13:19:29 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:20:27 -!- BirdoPrey has quit [Client Quit] 13:22:25 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 13:23:20 -!- randart has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:23:23 seems quite iffy for fighting, though 13:23:31 -!- keszocze has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:23:49 -!- tenofswords has left ##crawl-dev 13:24:12 -!- nickajeglin has quit [Quit: leaving] 13:24:18 a poorly-made mancatcher (with no spike to do some damage, too), which would be rather poor considering the amount of mounted opponents in Crawl 13:24:21 -!- Quashie has quit [Ping timeout: 241 seconds] 13:26:46 centaurs are effectively mounted! 13:26:50 ...sort of 13:27:12 "anthro-cavalry" 13:28:09 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 13:28:13 ...hah, the first google result for lajatang is the crawl wiki 13:28:31 it's rather hard to throw a centaur off his horse, though :) 13:28:40 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:28:47 kilobyte: get a bigger sword 13:29:08 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 13:29:32 you have to de-torso-itatate him 13:29:35 ontoclasm: reading a bunch of threads there makes it look like some people already asked this question, and that no semi-plausible explanations other than 100% D&D invention exist 13:29:54 ...yeah, i'm beginning to think this weapon is completely fictional 13:29:55 which makes sense, as the weapon appears to be pointless realism wise 13:30:16 we can rename it to 'bladey staff' and call it a day 13:31:06 lajatangs were in D&D 13:31:07 ophanim: You have 66 messages. Use !messages to read them. 13:31:24 * ophanim googles 13:31:44 http://yafgc.net/?id=2452 13:32:06 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 13:33:37 03pubby02 {MarvinPA} 07* 0.14-a0-791-g343fe79: Make vitalization provide poison immunity. 10(5 hours ago, 1 file, 4+ 4-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=343fe796a6c9 13:33:37 03pubby02 {MarvinPA} 07* 0.14-a0-792-g82cd9f8: Give Trog's Hand its own duration. 10(3 hours ago, 16 files, 67+ 47-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=82cd9f861486 13:37:05 -!- keszocze has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:37:40 -!- UseBees has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:38:50 Misleading messages when Nemelex piety changes after sacrifice by Sandman25 13:41:16 -!- nonethousand_ is now known as nonethousand 13:42:28 -!- bmfx has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:46:04 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:46:14 -!- Fhqwhgads__ is now known as Fhqwhgads_ 13:49:19 abuse Ench miscasts? :p 13:50:09 -!- bmfx_ is now known as bmfx 13:50:16 -!- UseBees_ is now known as UseBees 13:50:17 (if you got a Hex or Charm spell and too much patience) 13:51:37 got a spear? 13:52:02 -!- raskol has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:55:17 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:59:10 -!- UseBees has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:00:00 -!- Quashie has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:01:23 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 14:02:23 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 14:03:34 * kilobyte ponders flying sharks in tiles. 14:04:06 Harold doesn't start with throwing nets by pubby 14:04:07 shouldn't they be cut horizontally, to hide the submerged part from view? 14:05:04 -!- jeanjacques has quit [Quit: quit] 14:06:45 kilobyte: not a fan of sharknado? :b 14:07:21 -!- Wolfram has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:07:22 Grunt: no :p 14:07:40 the present tile could represent actual flyish sharks 14:08:16 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 14:09:18 todo: land sharks 14:12:04 Grunt: http://www.exiern.com/2012/09/06/and-the-castle-has-been-so-safe-lately/ 14:12:53 <|amethyst> Grunt: re save compat, I think there are places where it makes sense to insert some enum padding 14:13:20 <|amethyst> Grunt: in the ABIL_ enum particularly 14:15:12 <|amethyst> maybe also in DNGN_* 14:15:36 <|amethyst> since we use <= >= logic all over the place and it always causes trouble when we insert a new feature 14:17:34 03pubby02 {kilobyte} 07* 0.14-a0-793-g6092b33: Make all shaft falls a milestone. 10(6 hours ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=6092b33c033e 14:17:34 03kilobyte02 07* 0.14-a0-794-gb9843ce: Simplify. 10(5 hours ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=b9843ce9404f 14:17:34 03kilobyte02 07* 0.14-a0-795-g74b766a: Show Zin's poison immunity on the '%' screen. 10(5 hours ago, 1 file, 6+ 5-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=74b766a41dbc 14:17:34 03kilobyte02 07* 0.14-a0-796-g2b8a6b1: Add "dragon" to db_lint's list of monster that need no desc. 10(2 hours ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=2b8a6b1b179d 14:17:34 03kilobyte02 07* 0.14-a0-797-g4c748fd: Add missing U+00A0 to WGL-4. 10(36 minutes ago, 1 file, 3+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=4c748fdb6a68 14:17:34 03kilobyte02 07* 0.14-a0-798-g6205d3c0: Include the CP437 chart with a note about characters that don't work. 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 17+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=6205d3c0045b 14:18:31 * kilobyte ponders changing the default glyph for permarock. 14:18:57 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 14:19:06 -!- TROGSTEIN has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:19:27 rationale: unless you're spoiled and recognize a vault, you won't even think that a random rock wall in the middle of a level can ignore digging 14:19:39 and also, unlike stone, permarock can use any colour 14:20:04 an alternate solution would be to reserve a wall colour for permarock and ban it elsewhere 14:20:23 <|amethyst> but zot:5 14:21:03 zot:5 is why I'd go for a glyph rather than colour first, yeah 14:23:09 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.14-a0-799-ga070bb1: Add a cast message for elemental wellspring's primal wave 10(61 seconds ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=a070bb19e2d0 14:24:14 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 14:29:28 -!- Amilir has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:30:00 -!- dg__ has quit [] 14:30:50 -!- TacoSundae has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:31:44 here's another short Fo patch: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=Q9qVC0z3 14:35:09 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 14:35:46 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 14:39:03 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:42:15 -!- keszocze has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 14:42:23 Hrm. I'm having trouble fetching lightning_form 14:44:29 i'd be willing to make apermarock tile 14:44:36 it really annoys me 14:51:54 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 14:54:10 -!- reaver_ has joined ##crawl-dev 15:02:31 -!- tksquared has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 15:09:14 -!- Arkaniad has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 15:15:15 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 15:22:13 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:24:08 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 15:24:15 -!- UseBees has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:34:13 -!- Vaporware has joined ##crawl-dev 15:34:13 -!- Vaporware has quit [Changing host] 15:34:13 -!- Vaporware has joined ##crawl-dev 15:36:06 -!- myrmidette has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:37:39 -!- DrinkMachine has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 15:38:42 -!- slifty has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 15:38:55 03pubby02 {kilobyte} 07* 0.14-a0-800-gec83298: Formicids are humanoid shape. 10(2 hours ago, 1 file, 4+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=ec8329839514 15:38:58 -!- absolutego has joined ##crawl-dev 15:42:01 kilobyte: ...flying sharks? 15:43:09 tornado is like red bull! 15:44:15 kilobyte: http://i664.photobucket.com/albums/vv5/Charmybee_Honey_Bucket/monsters/Terlen.jpg 15:45:28 -!- Ragdoll has quit [Quit: Houdoe] 15:48:06 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 15:49:15 -!- N78291 has quit [Quit: null] 15:49:25 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:56:05 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 15:56:47 -!- bmfx has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:56:52 -!- Diabl0658 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 16:17:20 -!- glow11 has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.2] 16:18:31 i think permarock should be named something other than rock 16:21:08 aye 16:21:09 DNGN_ZOT_WALL 16:23:59 -!- bmfx_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 16:28:53 slade 16:30:42 -!- Sage has joined ##crawl-dev 16:31:11 -!- y2s82 has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.1] 16:32:21 -!- Basil has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:32:27 why do we even have three grades of glass? 16:34:37 -!- ackack has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 16:41:44 -!- HellTiger_ has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 16:45:11 -!- reaver_ has quit [] 16:49:25 03kilobyte02 07* 0.14-a0-801-ge66dd7b: Give permarock a different default glyph. 10(2 minutes ago, 3 files, 26+ 12-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=e66dd7be2162 16:51:46 -!- Lightli has joined ##crawl-dev 16:54:32 -!- Valarioth has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:55:28 -!- Nightbeer has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:57:31 -!- slifty has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 17:00:29 -!- Pepe has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:02:19 -!- thened has quit [Quit: thened] 17:03:20 -!- ark_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:07:40 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 17:10:49 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 17:13:09 -!- Nakatomy has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 17:17:43 -!- ldf has quit [Quit: ldf] 17:22:03 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 17:23:16 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 17:28:26 -!- Crehl has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:29:31 -!- OneEyedJack has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:32:51 -!- RZX has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:32:59 -!- randomizr is now known as RZX 17:35:24 -!- Lawman0 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:38:01 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 17:44:52 whales2 the Ruinous (L5 DECj) (Sewer) 17:45:59 -!- eldfer has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:48:41 -!- indspenceable has quit [Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 17:54:59 Vivus the Ruffian (L5 GhGl) (D:3) 17:58:48 -!- myrmidette1 has quit [Client Quit] 17:59:08 -!- dg_ has joined ##crawl-dev 18:00:16 -!- Tarquinn has joined ##crawl-dev 18:02:57 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:04:06 -!- Aryth has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:06:09 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 18:06:23 -!- Wolfram has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:07:59 -!- Morg0th has quit [Quit: leaving] 18:10:26 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 18:12:00 -!- pythonsnake has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:14:29 -!- floatboth has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:24:25 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 18:27:07 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Saindo] 18:27:53 -!- VolteccerJack has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- \o/] 18:28:11 how is the dungeon split holding up 18:33:16 -!- dondy has quit [Quit: ninja kapow n' gn8! :)] 18:35:10 -!- Brokkr has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:36:46 -!- eb has quit [] 18:38:20 -!- Foamed has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 18:40:39 -!- minced has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:43:47 I'm done my major initial changes; I'm mainly waiting for other people (kilobyte, SamB maybe?) to get other things done that benefit from a major save version bump. 18:44:05 kilobyte: btw, if you have monsters (uniques?) you want to remove, this is a good opportunity to do so! 18:44:30 |amethyst: feel free to pad out anything that you think needs padding :) 18:45:47 -!- xFleury has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 25.0/20131025151332]] 18:45:59 -!- ShadeTornado has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:46:11 -!- randart has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:47:42 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 18:50:20 -!- Roarke has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:51:06 -!- TacoSundae has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:54:01 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 18:54:49 -!- Kenran_ has quit [Quit: Quitting] 18:58:29 -!- Tuxedo[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:01:23 -!- Ferdel has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:02:16 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:03:33 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 19:05:08 -!- debo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:11:24 -!- scummos^ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 19:11:36 -!- bitsailor has joined ##crawl-dev 19:15:27 -!- Somefellow has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:15:51 -!- Reihar has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.2] 19:16:12 -!- DrinkMachine has joined ##crawl-dev 19:16:12 -!- DrinkMachine has quit [Changing host] 19:16:12 -!- DrinkMachine has joined ##crawl-dev 19:18:07 -!- Vaporware has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 19:20:56 -!- Bloax has quit [Quit: Error: Bloax not found] 19:25:05 -!- Moanerette has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:28:21 -!- Somefellow has joined ##crawl-dev 19:28:35 So here's a bad idea of the moment: 19:28:48 equivalents to the elemental wellspring corresponding to fire, earth, air. 19:29:37 does fire wellspring create lava underneath you? 19:29:51 It leaves fire clouds, obviously. 19:30:01 I find wellsprings to be really annoying and tend to exclude their area or dive floors with lots of them, I imagine I woudl do the same for other types 19:30:01 ophanim: You have 67 messages. Use !messages to read them. 19:30:12 ophanim: this is exactly why I am calling it a bad idea <_< 19:30:39 !tell ophanim You need more messages! 19:30:40 Grunt: OK, I'll let ophanim know. 19:31:48 what if the wellsprings were uniques? 19:32:37 buppy: well then we already have a fire wellspring 19:32:39 Azrael (04R) | Spd: 10 | HD: 11 | HP: 88 | AC/EV: 10/5 | Dam: 12 | 05demonic, 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, lev, !sil | Res: 06magic(44), 05hellfire, 04fire+++, 03poison, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 12cold, 12drown, 08holy++ | XP: 1263 | Sp: b.fire (3d20), sticky flame range (3d5), fireball (3d20), hellfire (3d20), 04esc:hellfire burst (3d15) | Sz: Large | Int: high. 19:32:39 %??azrael 19:39:41 -!- tenofswords has joined ##crawl-dev 19:40:56 (nobody would actually do anything if I brought back up the creator's idea to make their summon water elemental and primal wave attached to the same spell while also making wellspring casts damage the caster, right) 19:43:01 so it summons a water elemental, hits you for damage, and puts you in water, in one spell? 19:43:02 ophanim: You have 69 messages. Use !messages to read them. 19:43:11 and then is half dead! 19:44:08 -!- Nakat0my has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:47:05 -!- ophanim has left ##crawl-dev 19:48:23 -!- UseBees has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:52:08 Now I'm wondering what a Summon Wellspring spell would be like 19:52:12 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:53:08 -!- ws has quit [Quit: ws has no reason] 19:59:20 -!- tenofswords has left ##crawl-dev 20:05:36 -!- bitsailor has quit [Quit: bitsailor] 20:06:31 -!- alefury has quit [] 20:07:10 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:08:11 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 20:09:36 -!- dg_ has quit [] 20:11:35 -!- Conted has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20:14:11 -!- rchandra has joined ##crawl-dev 20:19:36 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 20:27:11 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 20:27:59 -!- Zermako has quit [Quit: goodnight and good luck to all! :D] 20:30:36 -!- slifty has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 20:33:45 -!- nickajeglin has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20:36:54 -!- buppy has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:37:06 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 20:42:39 idea: instead of making other elements consistent with water wellsprings, what about making water consistent with the rest? 20:43:24 they're the pretty universally most disliked monster in the Forest 20:44:32 elemental wellspring (11E) | Spd: 10 | HD: 15 | HP: 61-92 | AC/EV: 8/8 | 11non-living, !sil | Res: 13magic(immune), 10elec, 03poison, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | XP: 1278 | Sp: primal wave (3d21) | Sz: Big | Int: plant. 20:44:32 %??elemental wellspring 20:46:18 03Grunt02 07* 0.14-a0-802-gd12a4ba: Adjustments to old encompass vaults, mainly for branch access. 10(7 minutes ago, 1 file, 46+ 24-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=d12a4ba87f98 20:46:20 What would that entail, exactly? 20:46:29 Wellsprings are considered a lot tamer now that they don't summonspam. 20:46:31 (AFAIK.) 20:46:57 s/tamer/less annoying/ 20:47:15 they're one of my favorite forest monsters personally, since you can just xe and ignore them if you want 20:48:29 kilobyte: btw, see last paragraph of that most recent commit message. 20:49:17 -!- conted_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20:50:26 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 20:50:36 I'm applying suppression removal to trunk to make the compat break somewhat reviewable 20:52:39 kilobyte: are we doing those serialization changes, too? 20:54:48 03MarvinPA02 {kilobyte} 07* 0.14-a0-803-g723b4fa: Remove moths of suppression 10(2 days ago, 61 files, 337+ 751-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=723b4fa0c231 20:57:54 I would like to officially revoke all my complaints about crawl development 21:00:09 03Grunt02 07[dungeon-split] * 0.14-a0-829-g15dcbba: Merge branch 'master' into dungeon-split 10(71 seconds ago, files, + -) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=15dcbba20666 21:00:18 ...I was about to start working on something, and now I can't remember what it was. 21:03:09 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 21:03:17 SamB, if you have an idea of what the serialisation changes entail, by all means go ahead with that. 21:03:19 -!- kait has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:03:25 03kilobyte02 07* 0.14-a0-804-g434b8f6: Assign octopodes some stats. 10(6 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=434b8f6cb06c 21:03:42 Grunt: apportation targeting 21:03:42 -!- myrmidette has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 21:12:12 -!- PolkaDot has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 21:12:51 -!- crate has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:13:29 -!- bh has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:13:45 -!- eith has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:14:43 -!- dtsund has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:15:07 kilobyte: is there any code fot that base-128 integer encoding you mentioned yet? 21:17:38 * SamB sees that there is 21:17:42 -!- Lightli has joined ##crawl-dev 21:20:50 * kilobyte feels like renaming it to something like unmarshallS()/unmarshallU() 21:21:06 reduces the bad case of cobol fingers somewhat 21:21:17 would it be a good idea? 21:21:47 * SamB is not certain 21:22:07 however, note that we can do that without breaking compat 21:25:02 kind of odd that CrawlHashTable is actually a balanced tree 21:25:23 CrawlBalancedTree 21:27:42 kind of icky how many different integral types CrawlStoreValues can hold, isn't it? 21:29:20 putting whole monsters, etc, could go 21:29:32 needed only by Mislead AFAIK 21:30:18 which is an interface screw only, that doesn't even apply to monsters that matter (Mara's clones, player illusion) 21:36:40 hmm, what is the point of being able to have a max size for a CrawlVector? 21:37:04 -!- indspenceable has quit [Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 21:38:49 I'm tempted to make another vault 21:38:51 any ideas? 21:42:16 kilobyte: do you know what the point is? 21:46:04 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 21:48:23 -!- mong has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:50:57 Debian builds of the trunk branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.14-a0-804-g434b8f6 21:53:50 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 21:54:14 Resistance from scales mutation not shown on character sheet. by Wahaha 21:55:10 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 21:56:52 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 22:09:39 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 22:09:46 -!- Amilir has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:15:55 kilobyte: hmm, make might start quicker if it didn't try so hard to rebuild our .d files ... 22:23:43 anyone have a link to the monsters that'll show up in the Depths? 22:23:50 I want to make a runelock vault 22:25:40 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:30:15 -!- Xenobreeder has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 22:31:58 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 22:35:41 -!- indspenceable has quit [Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 22:42:22 okay, this is odd, it looks like artefact.o doesn't depend on the PCH :-( ... 22:43:46 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 22:44:25 -!- VolteccerJack has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <-] 22:46:27 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 22:48:17 -!- rebthor has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 25.0/20131025151332]] 22:49:06 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 22:52:11 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 22:53:42 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:55:25 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:57:41 03SamB02 07* 0.14-a0-805-gc239e29: Make the .o files depend on the PCH where relevant. 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=c239e299906f 22:58:51 -!- conted has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 22:58:54 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:59:08 Did I mess up anywhere with this? 22:59:08 http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=x9rajd2Y 22:59:24 -!- indspenceable has quit [Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 22:59:38 03SamB02 07[dungeon-split] * 0.14-a0-830-g95dadd2: Make the .o files depend on the PCH where relevant. 10(4 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=95dadd219d28 22:59:56 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 23:01:17 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:02:03 so did I somehow make a vault without botching the execution in some way? 23:02:19 http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/simm/crash-simm-20131111-045418.txt <- game crashed trying to update 23:02:36 apparently its related to me having a helm equipped 23:02:41 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 23:02:42 and then i guess transferring 23:03:25 Guessing it has to do with fo now having attennae 3 at all times 23:03:29 which I guess is a buff 23:04:42 kilobyte: is there a REASON we insist on the size of the ART_PROPERTIES vectors not changing? 23:05:34 I mean, rather than arranging for them to be expanded on load when needed 23:10:09 -!- Quashie_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:10:26 -!- dg__ has joined ##crawl-dev 23:11:09 * SamB is thinking of removing the max_size stuff from CrawlVector ... 23:22:39 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:23:18 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 23:27:55 -!- dg__ has quit [] 23:28:57 -!- Zifmia has quit [Quit: Wrong button bad with computers] 23:29:34 -!- ophanim has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:33:32 <|amethyst> I think I've got a fix for the fo thing, however briefly it might be needed; just need to test with Lear 23:37:47 -!- gnsh has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 23:37:59 -!- gnsh has joined ##crawl-dev 23:38:08 -!- N78291 has quit [Quit: null] 23:38:40 -!- tinybat has quit [Quit: tinybat] 23:39:22 03|amethyst02 07* 0.14-a0-806-g7df33cc: Don't crash when removing Formicid hats on save transfer. 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 6+ 7-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=7df33cce1f50 23:39:47 |amethyst: thanks! 23:40:02 <|amethyst> not forcing an update because one is scheduled for 20 minutes or so 23:40:19 -!- Arkaniad has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 23:41:02 thats fine 23:42:53 <|amethyst> !tell buppy the fix for the unmarshall crash was to not remove the hat until tag_read_you_items 23:42:55 |amethyst: OK, I'll let buppy know. 23:44:48 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:45:24 kilobyte, Grunt: well, I've got something that I expect sort of works to relax the limits on vector/hash size at , but it doesn't update the comments about space usage; also, it's ugly that we have to store the max_size explicitly (rather than as 0) for those vectors for which it was never explicitly specified ... 23:46:51 (since that means we can't easily increase it later on, not that 64Ki-1 shouldn't be enough for everyone ...) 23:47:34 (also it will waste, like, two bytes) 23:58:43 -!- rast has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90-rdmsoft [XULRunner 18.0.2/20130201065344]]