00:00:17 I'd much rather differentiate between them by adding additional tiers of abomination than stat shuffling 00:02:38 -!- johlstei has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 00:02:45 -!- Vizer has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:03:34 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 00:05:17 -!- mikee_ has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Nine out of ten l33t h4x0rz prefer it] 00:06:00 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.14-a0-484-gae2d0ec (34) 00:07:26 why did Frenzy get dropped? 00:08:34 fr beoghites can convert wargs too 00:09:02 warg (16h) | Spd: 13 | HD: 4 | HP: 17-35 | AC/EV: 4/12 | Dam: 12, 3, 3 | sense invisible | Res: 06magic(32), 03poison | Chunks: 07contam | XP: 101 | Sz: Large | Int: animal. 00:09:02 %??warg 00:09:06 orc warrior (08o) | Spd: 10 | HD: 4 | HP: 18-39 | AC/EV: 0/13 | Dam: 20 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, fighter | Res: 06magic(16) | Chunks: 07contam | XP: 133 | Sz: Medium | Int: normal. 00:09:06 %??orc warrior 00:10:23 ??warg 00:10:24 warg[1/2]: Like to mephitic cloud your (h)ound type monsters? Too bad, this sucker has rPois to keep wizards like you from confusing all of the orcish mines. 00:10:36 ??warg[2 00:10:37 warg[2/2]: Also, "warg" is the sound that you emit whilst being mangled by a warg. 00:10:47 unknown monster: "war dog" 00:10:47 %??war dog 00:10:55 rip war dogs 00:11:01 ??war dog 00:11:03 war dog[1/1]: Basically a {wolf}. Completely replaced with wolves in 0.13. 00:12:14 -!- thorgipup has quit [Quit: We be chillin - IceChat style] 00:12:15 ontoclasm: I like the idea, it's thematic and I don't think it would be imbalancing 00:18:21 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 00:20:25 -!- lobf has quit [Client Quit] 00:20:36 -!- Xenobreeder has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:21:00 -!- indspenceable has quit [Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 00:21:20 named wargs :3 00:21:35 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 00:24:05 ontoclasm: dasher, dancer, prancer? 00:24:35 Roverbeogh 00:24:52 Mr. Wuffles 00:25:07 Wargins 00:25:19 -!- lobf has quit [Client Quit] 00:26:48 Pawsie McBarksalot 00:30:00 fr orc riders 00:30:17 like spriggan riders but orc warlords on wargback 00:31:29 -!- korzok has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:32:44 unknown monster: "acolyte of lugonu" 00:32:44 %??acolyte of lugonu 00:36:45 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:37:51 mad acolyte of Lugonu (09@) | Spd: 10 | HD: 16 | HP: 46-81 | AC/EV: 0/13 | Dam: 6 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, priest, evil, spellcaster, 07vault | Res: 06magic(85) | Vul: 08holy | Chunks: 07contam | XP: 1300 | Sp: smiting (7-17), blink other, invisibility, malign gateway, blink | Sz: Medium | Int: high. 00:37:51 %??mad acolyte of lugonu 00:39:50 Basil: how's this for a bad idea -- abyss firewood that does nothing but reproduce 00:40:24 Have you been playing Angband? 00:41:01 I don't think I've ever played Angband 00:41:47 hmm 00:42:02 Explosive breeders don't sound especially fun to play with from what I've read 00:42:17 it's the abyss, though 00:43:04 Getting locked into place while a starcursed mass shrieks you to death or something sounds a bit 00:43:15 Unpleasant 00:44:30 bh: when we were brainstorming for the first round of abyss monsters 00:44:43 i thought of one which hangs around the edge of your LoS 00:44:48 and buffs other monsters 00:44:55 Then again I hear that abyss is unpleasant so it fits the theme 00:45:00 and doesn't do anything else 00:45:25 basically as you run through the abyss they just keep up with you and give you disapproving looks 00:45:25 ontoclasm: what about something that maintains distance and coronas you? 00:45:35 yeah 00:45:49 an eye 00:46:02 i guess it could maybe make noise or something too 00:46:03 eye of derision? 00:46:22 basically it's no threat at all by itself, it just causes problems 00:46:30 and refuses to engage you 00:56:06 another idea: a monster that rewards you for fighting it 00:56:17 currently everything in the abyss you want to get away from 00:56:36 some of them -force- you to slow down, and you might get cornered 00:57:07 but there could be some that make you think "ooh, i really want to stop and kill that" 00:59:33 say, something that, when it dies, hastes or heals anything adjacent to it (including you) 00:59:49 so you're drawn to go beat it up 01:00:40 we must have mechanics for keeping distance 01:01:59 well, orb spiders do it 01:02:14 M_MAINTAIN_RANGE 01:02:19 -!- LittleBrian has quit [Client Quit] 01:02:23 they do it poorly because they're slow 01:04:59 -!- Basil has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 01:06:02 ontoclasm: a neutral monster that inner-flamed dudes would be cruel. 01:06:02 Unstable branch on rl.heh.fi updated to: 0.14-a0-484-gae2d0ec (34) 01:07:31 hm 01:07:33 -!- djinni has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 01:07:49 okay, so, two similar monsters: 01:08:12 emerald lantern 01:08:18 hrmph. This thing doesn't want to cast corona on me 01:08:21 -!- ivan``_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:08:48 -!- Wensley has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:08:50 -!- whiterider has quit [Quit: This user has gone to sleep.] 01:08:52 -!- atrodo has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:09:02 -!- Eronarn has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 01:09:05 neutral, floats about randomly, heals monsters, and when killed gives a big heal to anything adjacent to it 01:09:31 maybe these shouldn't be lanterns 01:09:41 the other one inner-flames things and hastes stuff when it dies 01:12:02 erm. I have a level 1 character resisting corona from this thing. Is there some knob I can use to boost the spell power without giving it more HD? 01:13:39 gnoll shaman (16g) | Spd: 10 | HD: 3 | HP: 12-27 | AC/EV: 2/9 | Dam: 10 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, priest, evil | Res: 06magic(16) | Vul: 08holy | Chunks: 07contam | XP: 40 | Sp: corona, heal other (2d1), haste other, 04esc:minor healing (2d1) | Sz: Medium | Int: normal. 01:13:39 %??gnoll shaman 01:13:52 -!- ivan`` has joined ##crawl-dev 01:14:21 -!- djinni has joined ##crawl-dev 01:16:01 -!- Wensley has joined ##crawl-dev 01:16:15 -!- Eronarn has joined ##crawl-dev 01:16:24 -!- Wensley is now known as Guest9811 01:19:02 -!- st_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:20:33 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:20:48 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 01:26:47 -!- LittleBrian has quit [Quit: Bye] 01:28:43 -!- Twinge has joined ##crawl-dev 01:32:16 -!- Senjai has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:33:04 ontoclasm: done. Though the HD are all screwed up 01:33:29 hm 01:33:32 neat 01:34:11 -!- NightOwl_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:34:26 there might also be an ETC_ color we could use for it instead of YELLOW 01:35:06 well, etc_holy is yellow/white 01:35:09 if you want that 01:35:16 etc_gold is yellow/brown 01:35:26 (yesi have most of these memorized >.> 01:38:45 03bh02 07* 0.14-a0-485-g8b6206d: Add Ignis, a lantern monster 10(10 minutes ago, 5 files, 36+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=8b6206d0ad80 01:38:47 !tell Grunt see 8b6206d0, I've got a monster for you to tinker with 01:38:47 bh: OK, I'll let grunt know. 01:38:47 -!- bh has quit [Quit: sleep] 01:38:48 %git 8b6206d0 01:38:48 07bh02 * 0.14-a0-485-g8b6206d: Add Ignis, a lantern monster 10(10 minutes ago, 5 files, 36+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=8b6206d0ad80 01:38:48 @git 8b6206d0 01:38:48 !git 8b6206d0 01:38:48 :/ 01:38:49 -!- Cheibriados has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 01:39:59 -!- Cheibriados has joined ##crawl-dev 01:39:59 -!- The topic of ##crawl-dev is: Crawl Development | Logs: http://s-z.org/crawl-dev/ | People with +v have commit access. | Please keep general Crawl-related chit-chat to ##crawl. | Dev wiki: http://crawl.develz.org/wiki | Long stuff to pastebin.ca please | Immortal Warwalrus and Crazy Yiuf forever. 01:40:00 -!- The topic of ##crawl is: Check out new European server at ??clan! | Play Crawl online now: type ??cao, ??cdo, ??cszo, ??clan, or ??webtiles for instructions | http://crawl.develz.org | FooTV: termcast.develz.org | ##crawl-offtopic: You got your gender in my peanut butter! Xom thinks this is hilarious. 01:47:39 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:54:58 -!- simmarine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:56:13 -!- Croesus has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:04:29 -!- rbthor2 has quit [Client Quit] 02:10:31 -!- Croesus_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:12:00 FR: Ability to set your character sprite graphic, even if it means equipment can no longer be shown on it (example: playing a Troll and setting your appearance to the Trolls that spawn in the dungeon). 02:16:00 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:18:53 -!- minqmay has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:23:36 -!- rchandra has quit [Disconnected by services] 02:23:41 -!- rchandra1 is now known as rchandra 02:35:50 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 02:37:04 -!- Snufkin has quit [Disconnected by services] 02:42:56 -!- Venter has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:54:28 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:55:00 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 02:55:26 -!- radinms has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:55:31 -!- PepeRC2 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:56:36 -!- Gnum has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:01:09 -!- dg_ has joined ##crawl-dev 03:03:50 Unstable branch on crawl.lantea.net updated to: 0.14-a0-484-gae2d0ec (34) 03:37:38 -!- mong has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:48:34 -!- demiskeleton has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:49:38 xFleury: press - 03:50:02 xFleury: yeah, no one ever uses this command 03:51:17 bh: abyss somehow just crashed upon picking Slime:0 for me 03:51:17 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:51:24 kilobyte: that doesn't let you do what I'm describing :| 03:52:01 fastest do reproduce: ./crawl -test abyss_shift 03:52:17 s/do/to/ 04:01:09 -!- Crehl has quit [Quit: Leaving] 04:10:17 -!- Crehl has quit [Client Quit] 04:11:49 -!- Crehl has quit [Client Quit] 04:12:17 -!- LogicNinja has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 04:14:44 wow, regen gloves 04:15:29 -!- ldf has quit [Quit: ldf] 04:16:34 %git d942479 04:16:36 07pubby02 {kilobyte} * 0.13-a0-2859-gd942479: Trog's Gloves 10(4 months ago, 8 files, 30+ 3-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=d9424799989c 04:16:44 Was that just added? It says 4 months ago. 04:18:23 oh wait, nevermind sorry, I see what happened; Chei lagged soo badly I couldn't see the quering post 04:22:14 -!- mineral has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:22:36 that reminds me, has anyone looked at those unrand inscrips I put on mantis? 04:22:37 buppy: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 04:43:55 -!- Roarke has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 04:46:05 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 04:49:09 -!- ZChris13 has joined ##crawl-dev 04:52:08 -!- tali713 has joined ##crawl-dev 04:52:40 -!- eb has quit [] 04:54:06 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 05:06:14 -!- kait has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:06:45 -!- radinms has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:23:12 confidenceinterval (L19 GrFi) ASSERT(place.is_valid()) in 'mon-pick.cc' at line 103 failed. (Abyss:1) 05:25:01 -!- gammafunk has quit [Quit: gammafunk] 05:25:02 -!- Vizer has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:35:02 -!- Diabl0658 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:53:48 -!- ZChris13 has quit [Disconnected by services] 05:53:50 -!- ZChris13_ has joined ##crawl-dev 05:53:55 -!- ZChris13_ is now known as ZChris13 05:59:50 -!- Roarke has quit [Quit: Page closed] 06:07:29 xFleury: they have never been added 06:07:42 :( 06:07:42 xFleury: that's a side branch 06:08:19 and feedback on the gloves was all negative 06:08:19 Where was feedback given? 06:08:31 not sure, can't search right now 06:08:36 k 06:08:37 all other arts are in 06:08:58 -!- Crehl has quit [Quit: Leaving] 06:09:39 all other arts? 06:09:46 -!- oberstein has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 06:12:49 -!- oberstein has joined ##crawl-dev 06:14:42 xFleury: mooner, middle finger necklace, boots of suction (spider) 06:15:01 -!- rchandra has joined ##crawl-dev 06:15:11 -!- Stelpa has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:19:39 -!- TAS_2012v has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:19:39 xFluery: they were from this: https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=7247 06:26:22 -!- ZChris13 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 06:27:31 -!- DrinkMachine has joined ##crawl-dev 06:27:42 ty buppy 06:27:46 -!- oberstein has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 06:28:15 "mumra argued it's too strong, kilobyte argued it's too weak" lol... 06:28:37 (in reference to the amulet-ring) 06:31:00 I'm with kilobyte on that, the extended-game means TSO, means rN+++ from piety. Giving up rMut for one extra ring slot kinda a big compromise. 06:33:43 -!- Sgeo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:36:19 -!- oberstein has joined ##crawl-dev 06:37:16 only melee chars are all-TSO, at least among mine 06:37:35 !lg . urune>=14 s=char,god 06:37:35 10 games for kilobyte (urune>=14): MiAM (The Shining One), HEAs (Sif Muna), LOBe (The Shining One), FeAE (Makhleb), SpAE (Lugonu), MDFi (The Shining One), MfWr (The Shining One), KeAE (Ashenzari), MuFi (Okawaru), OpHu (Nemelex Xobeh) 06:38:40 amulets are often not great in extended once you're experienced with it 06:38:46 says the guy who cannot control his temper in combat 06:39:02 lol j/k :P 06:39:04 no rMut in the Abyss means you'll walk out with ten more bad muts than you came in 06:39:36 no Clarity in Zigs can end up with a ktyp other than winning 06:40:44 the amulet is still good though, it gives you flexibility 06:41:35 rMut is useful in Zot, is useful in Abyss, is useful in many of the extended-game areas. I've seen mutation capable monsters in Dis, in Tar... 06:41:51 -!- kait has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:42:20 or you get this: 06:42:22 ??uber randarts[-1] 06:42:22 uber randarts[28/28]: the amulet of Lyec {Clar +Rage +Fly rF++ rC++ MR+ Str+3 Int+3} 06:42:47 but then, this was twice as likely to be a ring... 06:43:17 (no Clar of course, but make this Regen or such...) 06:45:10 -!- Nightbeer has quit [Client Quit] 06:46:20 -!- Tarquinn has quit [Quit: Leaving] 06:48:30 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 06:51:34 -!- ivan`` has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:51:34 -!- djinni has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:58:12 -!- djinni has joined ##crawl-dev 06:58:51 -!- ivan`` has joined ##crawl-dev 06:59:10 -!- Impy_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 06:59:10 -!- syllogism has joined ##crawl-dev 07:14:06 -!- kait has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 07:14:17 -!- ZChris13 has joined ##crawl-dev 07:14:26 -!- ZChris13 has quit [Client Quit] 07:26:42 -!- Quashie has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 07:32:06 -!- eki has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 07:35:52 -!- dondy has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 07:38:56 -!- oberstein has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 07:40:20 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 07:42:31 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 07:46:48 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 07:48:26 -!- xFleury_ has joined ##crawl-dev 07:48:41 -!- xFleury has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:48:50 -!- xFleury_ is now known as xFleury 07:49:19 -!- pythonsnake has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 07:54:15 -!- Nakatomy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:54:27 -!- GreatSpiff- has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:55:37 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:06:59 -!- eith has joined ##crawl-dev 08:09:27 -!- Ragdoll has joined ##crawl-dev 08:21:19 -!- oberstein has joined ##crawl-dev 08:28:37 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 08:31:53 Deemzul (L27 LOFi) ASSERT(place.is_valid()) in 'mon-pick.cc' at line 103 failed. (Abyss:1) 08:32:10 Deemzul (L27 LOFi) ASSERT(place.is_valid()) in 'mon-pick.cc' at line 103 failed. (Abyss:1) 08:33:47 Deemzul (L27 LOFi) ASSERT(place.is_valid()) in 'mon-pick.cc' at line 103 failed. (Abyss:1) 08:48:32 -!- eith has quit [Ping timeout: 241 seconds] 08:48:33 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 08:58:10 -!- Burer has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 08:59:34 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 09:01:59 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 09:07:34 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 09:09:54 -!- UseBees has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:26:28 hrm, four crashes so far, looks like "let's wait for bh" might be a bad idea 09:26:41 as Europe goes home soon, US wakes up 09:26:53 -!- HTTK has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 09:27:27 -!- Foamed has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:27:28 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:30:02 Dagoth the Arsonist (L10 DjFE) (D:10) 09:30:39 Dagoth the Arsonist (L10 DjFE) (D:10) 09:31:16 !lm * crash -log 09:31:16 5619. Dagoth, XL10 DjFE, T:19363 (milestone): http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/Dagoth/crash-Dagoth-20131031-143038.txt 09:32:36 -!- radinms has quit [] 09:37:36 03galehar02 07* 0.14-a0-486-g9e7b93e: Don't install transifex files. 10(6 minutes ago, 1 file, 8+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=9e7b93ed6e36 09:37:39 -!- DracheReborn has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:37:39 -!- felid_fighter has quit [Client Quit] 09:37:39 -!- cosmonaut has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:37:39 -!- Cheibriados has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:38:48 -!- Cheibriados has joined ##crawl-dev 09:38:48 -!- The topic of ##crawl-dev is: Crawl Development | Logs: http://s-z.org/crawl-dev/ | People with +v have commit access. | Please keep general Crawl-related chit-chat to ##crawl. | Dev wiki: http://crawl.develz.org/wiki | Long stuff to pastebin.ca please | Immortal Warwalrus and Crazy Yiuf forever. 09:38:49 -!- The topic of ##crawl is: Check out new European server at ??clan! | Play Crawl online now: type ??cao, ??cdo, ??cszo, ??clan, or ??webtiles for instructions | http://crawl.develz.org | FooTV: termcast.develz.org | ##crawl-offtopic: You got your gender in my peanut butter! Xom thinks this is hilarious. 09:45:05 -!- OneeyedJack has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 09:46:58 -!- mineral has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 09:47:24 -!- read_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:53:01 -!- dg_ has quit [] 09:53:15 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 09:53:26 -!- dg__ has joined ##crawl-dev 09:57:07 ??EL 09:57:08 I don't have a page labeled el in my learndb. 09:57:32 -!- Vaporware has joined ##crawl-dev 09:57:38 -!- DrinkMachine has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 09:59:22 ??HD 09:59:23 hd[1/3]: Hit Dice; essentially a monster's experience level. Affects a monster's: magic resistance, spell power, experience value, forms it can polymorph into, and susceptibility to some spells such as mephitic cloud and confusing touch. 09:59:26 ??HD[2] 09:59:27 hd[2/3]: Monster melee to hit is 18+HD*(1.5 or 2.5). The former for non-fighters, the latter for fighters. Beam to hit is 12*HD. 09:59:30 ??HD[3] 09:59:30 hill dwarf[1/2]: An extinct race of dwarves, much lamented by Cyrus. 10:00:07 -!- ainsophyao has joined ##crawl-dev 10:06:59 kilobyte: the abyss crash is more likely to be my fault... 10:07:17 -!- MIC132 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:10:25 03Grunt02 07* 0.14-a0-487-ga39c1b6: Don't try to pick Place:0 for abyss layout/spawn purposes. 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=a39c1b650b86 10:13:46 03kilobyte02 07* 0.14-a0-488-ged9a349: Do try to pick Place:$ for abyss layout/spawn purposes. 10(79 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=ed9a349f68de 10:13:56 -!- bh has joined ##crawl-dev 10:18:32 -!- Valarioth has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:20:12 -!- bh has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:20:57 -!- dg__ has quit [] 10:22:12 -!- KorpsDeKrieg has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:23:43 -!- Basil has joined ##crawl-dev 10:23:46 grunt: a friend of mine found hat of the high council in a zig 10:23:48 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 10:23:56 -!- Burer has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:24:01 he says it is now gone from his inventory and a message about "illegal brand" or something like that was generated when he changed floors at some point 10:24:44 o_O 10:24:52 03kilobyte02 07* 0.14-a0-489-g318bc0b: Don't crash on "?/m spectral" in tiles. 10(40 seconds ago, 1 file, 3+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=318bc0b365c5 10:24:54 -!- rchandra has left ##crawl-dev 10:27:03 -!- popx has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:28:13 -!- UseBees has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:29:25 03Grunt02 07* 0.14-a0-490-g96e2432: Consider Archmagi a non-strict valid brand for item types (ackack). 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=96e243225075 10:29:37 er 10:29:40 s/non-strict/strict/ 10:29:55 ...no, wait, non-strict is correct <_< 10:29:58 ackack: thanks! 10:30:01 no problem 10:30:23 -!- DrinkMachine has joined ##crawl-dev 10:31:01 -!- Burer has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:31:57 -!- Vaporware has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:31:57 i'm designing abyss monsters >.> 10:32:21 ...but now i have to go teach :/ 10:32:27 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 10:34:48 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 10:35:52 -!- adityarajbhatt has joined ##crawl-dev 10:36:23 -!- adityarajbhatt has left ##crawl-dev 10:37:24 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 10:42:28 !apt de 10:42:29 DE: Fighting: -2*, Short: 0, Long: -1, Axes: -2, Maces: -3*, Polearms: -3*, Staves: 0, Slings: -2, Bows: 1, Xbows: -1, Throw: 1, Armour: -2, Dodge: 2, Stealth: 3, Stab: 1, Shields: -2, Traps: 0, UC: -2*, Splcast: 3!, Conj: 1, Hexes: 3, Charms: 4!, Summ: 1, Nec: 2!, Tloc: 1, Tmut: 1, Fire: 1, Ice: 1, Air: 0, Earth: 1, Poison: 1, Inv: 1, Evo: 2, Exp: -1, HP: -2, MP: 3! 10:42:45 !apt he 10:42:46 HE: Fighting: 0, Short: 2, Long: 2!, Axes: -2, Maces: -2, Polearms: -2, Staves: 0, Slings: -2, Bows: 3!, Xbows: 0, Throw: 1, Armour: -1, Dodge: 1, Stealth: 2, Stab: -1, Shields: -1, Traps: 0, UC: -2*, Splcast: 1, Conj: 1, Hexes: 0, Charms: 2, Summ: -1, Nec: -2, Tloc: 1, Tmut: 1, Fire: 0, Ice: 0, Air: 2, Earth: -2, Poison: -2, Inv: 1, Evo: 1, Exp: -1, HP: -1, MP: 2 10:45:48 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 10:57:55 03kilobyte02 07* 0.14-a0-491-g1c21801: Fix a crash when a monster dies to own water-elec discharge. 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=1c218013da41 10:58:55 03kilobyte02 07* 0.14-a0-492-g57c8949: Simplify. 10(3 days ago, 1 file, 30+ 37-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=57c8949bf5b3 10:58:55 03kilobyte02 07* 0.14-a0-493-gd0b9e0f: Get rid of most types of actor_iterator. 10(3 days ago, 5 files, 86+ 113-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=d0b9e0fa3f62 10:58:55 03kilobyte02 07* 0.14-a0-494-gc6935ab: Make actor->get_los() const. 10(3 days ago, 3 files, 8+ 8-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=c6935ab59b29 10:58:55 03kilobyte02 07* 0.14-a0-495-g2471b96: Dump an useless vector. 10(3 days ago, 1 file, 12+ 16-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=2471b96f471b 10:58:55 03kilobyte02 07* 0.14-a0-496-g8f05981: Eject some cases outside loops. 10(2 days ago, 1 file, 77+ 93-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=8f059811dc56 10:58:55 03kilobyte02 07* 0.14-a0-497-gec9c540: Fix wind drake/Sojobo breath not working away from the player. 10(11 hours ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=ec9c540f2946 10:58:55 03kilobyte02 07* 0.14-a0-498-g02d62bf: Simplify actor_iterator and some of its users, rename to actor_near_iterator. 10(32 hours ago, 8 files, 117+ 132-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=02d62bf9075e 10:58:55 03kilobyte02 07* 0.14-a0-499-gec5ad0e: Don't let Xom swap weapons with something in water/lava. 10(9 hours ago, 1 file, 2+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=ec5ad0e6cc2a 10:58:55 03kilobyte02 07* 0.14-a0-500-gb5aec58: Rare insects, polymoths, chaos butterflies and bumblebees, back together! 10(9 hours ago, 12 files, 4+ 101-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=b5aec581b1ad 10:58:55 03kilobyte02 07* 0.14-a0-501-ga57962f: monster_near_iterator 10(9 hours ago, 22 files, 219+ 160-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=a57962fa1975 10:58:55 ... and 1 more commits 11:01:56 03kilobyte02 07* 0.14-a0-503-g2e89b76: Fix a banished eldritch tentacle crash. 10(8 hours ago, 1 file, 2+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=2e89b76ebc6d 11:04:40 -!- Foamed has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:08:16 Well, this is weird. 11:09:00 I'm test-fighting Lom Lobon and he starts wandering just after he fires an Ice Storm. 11:09:32 It's not happening consistently. 11:10:47 <|amethyst> Grunt: maybe check the behaviour events? perhaps he's ME_ANNOYing himself or something? 11:12:36 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:16:51 -!- adityarajbhatt has joined ##crawl-dev 11:18:30 actor_near_iterator? 11:20:05 SamB: in LOS only 11:20:38 it just seems an awkward word order, I guess 11:20:44 could be better to start by checking the grid rather than going through all monsters, too 11:20:49 ah 11:21:21 i found GDA on D:3 as a TeWz, is it even possible for me to use this item successfully on this char? 11:21:25 maybe it's just highly abbreviated 11:21:27 starting str of 8 11:22:05 technically i can get str to 16 by level 27, but thats not enough is it? 11:22:21 Naruni, ask over in ##crawl :b 11:22:30 oh whoops 11:23:02 after galehar's changes, the requirement is slightly less strict, but on the other hand, "just" 27 doesn't eliminate the penalty 11:23:10 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 11:23:56 03galehar02 07* 0.14-a0-504-gf2529f3: Rune lock. 10(16 minutes ago, 3 files, 23+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=f2529f376034 11:24:07 what is "success"? 11:24:29 galehar: shouldn't there be a (dpeg) in that message? 11:25:12 Deemzul (L12 GhMo) ASSERT(place.is_valid()) in 'mon-pick.cc' at line 103 failed. (Abyss:1) 11:25:28 SamB: yeah, there could have been :) 11:25:39 Deemzul (L12 GhMo) ASSERT(place.is_valid()) in 'mon-pick.cc' at line 103 failed. (Abyss:1) 11:25:55 kilobyte: one thing that we COULD do with bfd but not elfutils is support better backtraces on Windows ... 11:26:05 could someone rebuild CLAN so folks suffer from the rune lock already? 11:26:14 (and don't crash in the abyss) 11:26:38 SamB: oooh! 11:27:22 of course I'm not prepared to bastardize the build system 11:27:32 Deemzul (L12 GhMo) ASSERT(place.is_valid()) in 'mon-pick.cc' at line 103 failed. (Abyss:1) 11:27:59 and also I don't know how you'd want to extract the relevant source tree ... 11:28:27 Deemzul (L12 GhMo) ASSERT(place.is_valid()) in 'mon-pick.cc' at line 103 failed. (Abyss:1) 11:28:38 and I'm not sure if bfd itself knows much about DWARF, either ... 11:28:49 Deemzul (L12 GhMo) ASSERT(place.is_valid()) in 'mon-pick.cc' at line 103 failed. (Abyss:1) 11:29:03 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.14-a0-504-gf2529f3 (34) 11:31:02 I don't have CLAN rights, anyone...? 11:31:13 kilobyte: already in progress... 11:31:20 cool, thanks! 11:31:33 <|amethyst> kilobyte: do you have a CLAN account? 11:31:50 kilobyte: another possibility, of course, would be to actually invoke addr2line 11:32:02 |amethyst: created one a minute ago 11:32:08 <|amethyst> !tell tzer0 kilobyte's CLAN account needs the admin flag 11:32:11 |amethyst: OK, I'll let tzer0 know. 11:32:42 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.14-a0-504-gf2529f3 (34) 11:35:12 hmm, we have a lot of flags in packed_cell 11:36:27 -!- Garhauk has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 11:42:46 oh wow, rune lock 11:43:44 why is rune lock on D:15 and not D:14? 11:44:06 we have a milestone for D:14 that should be moved to D:15 if it is going to be there 11:45:01 I don't particularly care one way or the other, but I'm interested in the reason for one over the other 11:45:30 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.14-a0-504-gf2529f3 (34) 11:47:51 I guess putting the blocked stairs on D:14 rather than D:13 is better if there are going to be entrance vaults or whatever 11:48:02 that's probably enough of a reason 11:49:57 elliptic: no reason, I thought that was what has been discussed, but I may have misremembered 11:50:06 feel free to move it 11:50:14 I'm going to move the milestone 11:50:44 so that we can track when people go through the lock :) 11:52:15 well, we can move the lock instead 11:52:32 looking at branch entrance depths, 14 or 15 both work fine 11:52:46 yeah, but we might not want the locked stairs on the same level as the lair entrance 11:52:55 so I think 15 is probably better 11:53:28 also gives players one more level that they can clear for stuff before needing to get a rune, which is probably for the best 11:53:28 kerensky (L27 SpEn) ASSERT(place.is_valid()) in 'mon-pick.cc' at line 103 failed. (Abyss:3) 11:53:30 yeah, my crude code could prevent people from entering lair otherwise :) 11:53:51 kerensky (L27 SpEn) ASSERT(place.is_valid()) in 'mon-pick.cc' at line 103 failed. (Abyss:3) 11:54:13 kerensky (L27 SpEn) ASSERT(place.is_valid()) in 'mon-pick.cc' at line 103 failed. (Abyss:3) 11:54:31 <|amethyst> !lm kerensky crash -log 11:54:32 2. kerensky, XL27 SpEn, T:110252 (milestone): http://crawl.lantea.net/crawl/morgue/kerensky/crash-kerensky-20131031-165349.txt 11:55:18 |amethyst: we already fixed that; clan just hasn't updated yet. 11:55:25 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 11:55:27 <|amethyst> aha 11:55:33 <|amethyst> yeah, I was checking the version 11:58:23 -!- dpeg has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 11:58:51 03elliptic02 07* 0.14-a0-505-gd5f0ba7: Move the br.mid milestone to D:15. 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 3+ 3-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=d5f0ba7bf9e0 11:59:53 -!- rossi_ has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.2] 12:01:19 -!- bisonbisonbison has joined ##crawl-dev 12:03:25 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.14-a0-505-gd5f0ba7 (34) 12:04:53 -!- Zannick has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 12:04:55 -!- adityarajbhatt has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 12:10:50 -!- ainsophyao has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:11:14 -!- adityarajbhatt has joined ##crawl-dev 12:14:25 -!- Stelpa has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 12:17:25 -!- keszocze has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:19:20 -!- oberstein has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:23:59 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 12:24:44 -!- bisonbisonbison has left ##crawl-dev 12:26:54 -!- oberstein has joined ##crawl-dev 12:37:35 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 12:37:38 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:45:53 -!- Ragdoll has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 12:58:40 -!- alefury|2 has joined ##crawl-dev 12:59:42 -!- DracheReborn has quit [Quit: Bye] 13:01:18 -!- myrmidette1 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:04:17 -!- moohaus has quit [] 13:04:50 -!- eith has joined ##crawl-dev 13:06:45 Crashscumming (L1 DsWz) ERROR in 'libutil.cc' at line 1022: screen write out of bounds: (1,8) into (80,7) (D:1) 13:11:30 -!- DrinkMachine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:13:33 -!- eb has quit [Quit: I quit] 13:16:22 -!- LexAckson_ has joined ##crawl-dev 13:20:26 -!- Valarioth has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:22:08 -!- LittleBrian has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 13:25:19 -!- moohaus has quit [*.net *.split] 13:25:20 -!- alefury|2 has quit [*.net *.split] 13:25:20 -!- ldf has quit [*.net *.split] 13:25:20 -!- LexAckson has quit [*.net *.split] 13:25:20 -!- ketsa has quit [*.net *.split] 13:25:20 -!- thened has quit [*.net *.split] 13:25:20 -!- fsufitch has quit [*.net *.split] 13:25:20 -!- TZer0 has quit [*.net *.split] 13:25:20 -!- Porost has quit [*.net *.split] 13:31:25 -!- Chapayev has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 13:32:01 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 13:35:50 -!- oberstein has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:39:36 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 13:43:02 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 13:44:54 -!- ontoclasm1 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:46:24 somehow apropos :p 13:47:53 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 13:51:19 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 13:51:29 -!- GreatSpiff- is now known as GreatSpiff 13:56:39 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 13:56:41 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 13:59:43 -!- emeraldemon has quit [Quit: emeraldemon] 14:02:46 -!- yxhuvud has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:06:24 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 14:08:10 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 14:08:31 -!- Xiberia has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:11:42 -!- tureba has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:12:08 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:15:10 -!- adityarajbhatt has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.2] 14:17:00 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 14:18:05 -!- bisonbisonbison has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 14:18:10 -!- alefury|2 has joined ##crawl-dev 14:18:10 -!- fsufitch has joined ##crawl-dev 14:18:10 -!- TZer0 has joined ##crawl-dev 14:18:15 -!- ketsa has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90 [Pale Moon 24.0.2/20130925021446]] 14:23:40 -!- gammafunk has quit [Quit: gammafunk] 14:25:40 -!- Xiberia has joined ##crawl-dev 14:25:59 -!- oberstein has joined ##crawl-dev 14:26:13 Unstable branch on crawl.lantea.net updated to: 0.14-a0-504-gf2529f3 (34) 14:31:02 UrQuan (L19 HOBe) ASSERT(place.is_valid()) in 'mon-pick.cc' at line 103 failed. (Abyss:1) 14:31:56 UrQuan (L19 HOBe) ASSERT(place.is_valid()) in 'mon-pick.cc' at line 103 failed. (Abyss:1) 14:32:11 UrQuan (L19 HOBe) ASSERT(place.is_valid()) in 'mon-pick.cc' at line 103 failed. (Abyss:1) 14:32:28 kilobyte: do you have a user on clan? 14:32:29 TZer0: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 14:33:04 UrQuan (L19 HOBe) ASSERT(place.is_valid()) in 'mon-pick.cc' at line 103 failed. (Abyss:1) 14:33:22 UrQuan (L19 HOBe) ASSERT(place.is_valid()) in 'mon-pick.cc' at line 103 failed. (Abyss:1) 14:33:29 !messages 14:33:30 (1/1) |amethyst said (3h 1m 20s ago): kilobyte's CLAN account needs the admin flag 14:33:47 !tell kilobyte are you registered on CLAN? 14:33:48 TZer0: OK, I'll let kilobyte know. 14:34:47 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 14:35:02 TZer0: yeah, named KiloByte as everywhere else 14:35:02 kilobyte: You have 8 messages. Use !messages to read them. 14:35:24 this particular bug has been rebuilt already, though 14:35:38 not everwhere, as Ruffell just told us 14:37:15 -!- oberstein has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:37:29 UrQuan (L19 HOBe) ASSERT(place.is_valid()) in 'mon-pick.cc' at line 103 failed. (Abyss:1) 14:39:05 -!- Morg0th has quit [Quit: leaving] 14:40:11 -!- Venter has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 14:41:06 -!- LittleBrian has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 14:42:00 -!- oberstein has joined ##crawl-dev 14:44:17 ??rebuild 14:44:21 rebuild[1/1]: http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rebuild/ https://dobrazupa.org/rebuild/ http://crawl.lantea.net/rebuild http://rl.heh.fi/rebuild/ Bug kilobyte or Napkin for CDO. Use your powers wisely. 14:44:39 is someone else rebuilding rhf or should I do it? 14:46:16 -!- Jebus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:47:41 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 14:54:03 -!- Xenobreeder has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 14:56:04 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:02:38 -!- moohaus has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:13:48 Unstable branch on rl.heh.fi updated to: 0.14-a0-505-gd5f0ba7 (34) 15:14:26 -!- yalue has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:22:25 -!- Jebus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:25:54 -!- gammafunk has quit [Quit: gammafunk] 15:37:03 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:37:42 -!- ForgottenBeast has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 15:44:24 -!- UseBees has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:45:20 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:45:27 UrQuan (L19 HOBe) ASSERT(place.is_valid()) in 'mon-pick.cc' at line 103 failed. (Abyss:1) 15:47:05 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 15:49:26 !lm * crash -log 15:49:26 5635. UrQuan, XL19 HOBe, T:41850 (milestone): http://rl.heh.fi/morgue/UrQuan/crash-UrQuan-20131031-204526.txt 15:50:21 -!- Kromgart has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:50:46 !lm * crash -log -2 15:50:47 5634. UrQuan, XL19 HOBe, T:41788 (milestone): http://rl.heh.fi/morgue/UrQuan/crash-UrQuan-20131031-193728.txt 15:51:12 hm, apparently this crash wasn't actually fixed? 15:51:55 -!- agentgt has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 15:53:02 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 15:54:39 -!- Basil has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:56:38 -!- Basil has joined ##crawl-dev 15:57:08 God gift ammunition is not correctly labelled by guyht 15:57:08 -!- ForgottenBeast has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:57:52 I think we don't support that for a reason 15:58:02 basically because it is totally indistinguishable from regular ammo 15:58:09 especially if you stack it together 15:58:22 and the stack would keep that inscription forever 15:58:35 or not, depending on how deterministic the merging was 15:58:35 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 15:58:51 also, don't we remove that inscription on identified items anyway nowadays? 15:58:58 it would make more sense to track how many of each possible ammo you had been gifted 15:58:59 ammo is always fully identified 15:59:11 elliptic: the {} thing, probably 15:59:28 03kilobyte02 07* 0.14-a0-506-g7cd3ab6: Provide more information in an assert. 10(50 seconds ago, 1 file, 4+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=7cd3ab65b120 15:59:30 -!- Burer has quit [Changing host] 15:59:43 but if you examine the weapon it still says who gave it to you 15:59:58 stackable items don't track their origins in the first place 16:00:02 I guess I should rebuild RHF again now 16:00:17 ??rebuild 16:00:18 rebuild[1/1]: http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rebuild/ https://dobrazupa.org/rebuild/ http://crawl.lantea.net/rebuild http://rl.heh.fi/rebuild/ Bug kilobyte or Napkin for CDO. Use your powers wisely. 16:01:14 if you got 3 javelins from the ground, 8 from Trog and 5 from a merfolk, then mulched 10, what's the origin of the 6 that remain? 16:02:48 kilobyte: yeah, that's why I said if we kept track of any such thing it would be more "you got N of X (Y) from Z" 16:03:12 rather than trying to note anything on the stack itself 16:03:37 the notes could include something more than just "received a gift from Trog" 16:04:02 yes, that would be reasonable approach 16:04:09 -!- xFleury has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:07:45 -!- xFleury has joined ##crawl-dev 16:11:21 Unstable branch on rl.heh.fi updated to: 0.14-a0-506-g7cd3ab6 (34) 16:14:16 -!- MIC132 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:15:57 -!- melanie18 has quit [Killed (idoru (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 16:17:28 -!- ark_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:20:02 -!- Foamed has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 16:21:03 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:25:12 -!- valtern has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:26:14 -!- LexAckson_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:28:05 -!- Croesus has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:29:43 -!- dtsund has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:35:40 nice transifex blog post about their workflow with git and transifex 16:35:41 http://blog.transifex.com/post/65622088435/managing-your-continous-localization-project 16:36:16 it's nice how they handle updating stable branch without having to do any branching on the tx side (described at the end) 16:36:57 too bad handling grammar isn't feasible this way 16:41:37 03galehar02 07* 0.14-a0-507-g88b6558: Use RUNE_LOCK_DEPTH instead of a magic number. 10(46 seconds ago, 1 file, 4+ 3-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=88b655898e04 16:48:56 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 16:49:01 -!- OneEyedJack_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:51:04 -!- DrinkMachine has joined ##crawl-dev 16:52:42 -!- Valarioth has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:53:40 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:54:31 -!- tinybat has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:54:46 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 16:55:26 -!- indspenceable has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 16:55:44 elliptic, kilobyte: there might be saves with invalid abyss places - the relevant code in tags.cc could be updated. 16:55:48 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 16:55:51 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:55:58 I'd do it, but I'm at work right now. 16:59:54 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 17:03:05 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 17:03:30 03|amethyst02 07* 0.14-a0-508-g9d7bf75: Include abyssal level in assertion dumps. 10(24 minutes ago, 1 file, 4+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=9d7bf75a2365 17:03:30 03|amethyst02 07* 0.14-a0-509-g1a2730b: Handle invalid abyssal levels on game load (Grunt) 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=1a2730b04434 17:04:29 <|amethyst> rebuilding RHF 17:05:16 -!- bmfx has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:05:27 -!- indspenceable has quit [Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. 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17:50:14 but yeah, maybe stone_stair || escape_hatch is neater 17:50:52 -!- cosmonaut has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:55:33 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:56:47 -!- gammafunk has quit [Quit: gammafunk] 17:58:46 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 17:59:43 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.14-a0-513-gae8d2e5: Just check stone stairs/escape hatches on D:14 10(4 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=ae8d2e55d524 18:00:15 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 18:03:51 -!- DracheReborn has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:05:29 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:07:49 -!- Chousuke has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 18:08:18 -!- Chousuke has joined ##crawl-dev 18:10:21 -!- omniscientist has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:13:06 -!- Nakatomy has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 18:19:45 -!- Drache_Reborn has quit [Read error: No route to host] 18:28:58 any thoughts here on whether we should do anything about jiyva with rune lock? a pre-slime:6 jiyva altar seems like a somewhat cheap method of going through the lock to me 18:29:49 -!- myrmidette1 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 18:30:05 we could remove unguarded altars in early D and/or at the Slime entry, say 18:31:44 -!- myrmidette1 has quit [Client Quit] 18:33:05 -!- emeraldemon has quit [Quit: emeraldemon] 18:33:30 do we need to bother? 18:33:40 sounds good to me 18:33:51 to remove altars I mean 18:34:41 -!- myrmidette1 has quit [Client Quit] 18:43:38 -!- dpeg has joined ##crawl-dev 18:43:39 !seen kilobyte 18:43:40 I last saw kilobyte at Thu Oct 31 21:03:37 2013 UTC (2h 40m 2s ago) saying 'the notes could include something more than just "received a gift from Trog"' on ##crawl-dev. 18:44:31 kilobyte: Does your monster_near_iterator also help with the monster announced, but not seen bug? 18:45:27 -!- DracheReborn has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 18:46:12 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:46:38 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 18:50:08 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 18:51:32 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:52:09 -!- magicpoints has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 18:52:25 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 18:55:22 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 18:58:03 -!- pelotron_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:59:07 dpeg: isn't that caused by movement after initial creation or something? 18:59:45 just like the "monster announced with wrong equipment" bug? 19:00:05 (which mostly affects wizmode) 19:01:03 SamB: maybe, it is an old bug and still irritating 19:04:27 <|amethyst> but what *should* happen if a monster enters and leaves view in the same turn? 19:04:31 <|amethyst> no message? 19:05:39 oh, we're just talking about that? 19:06:22 <|amethyst> oh, is there another similar problem? 19:06:36 I don't know 19:10:15 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 19:14:38 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:14:51 just ignore me :) had a slim hope that kilobyte's commit could've helped with that 19:15:37 <|amethyst> Ideally it has no visible effects; it's supposed to be just a code cleanup AFAICT 19:16:51 <|amethyst> oh, I guess not entirely 19:16:56 <|amethyst> This commit also fixes a buttload of ignoring invis / see invis / sense invi 19:16:58 <|amethyst> s (ie, visible_to()) and act-through-glass bugs. 19:19:57 -!- oberstein has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:24:44 -!- ldf has quit [Quit: ldf] 19:26:09 -!- Nakat0my has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:30:10 -!- bh has joined ##crawl-dev 19:30:46 Can I boost a monster's spell power without increasing its HD? 19:31:44 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 19:33:17 -!- tksquared_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:37:52 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:38:10 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 19:41:18 -!- Zannick has joined ##crawl-dev 19:46:44 domi the Metallomancer (L21 DrEE) ERROR: range check error (80 / 80) (D:22) 19:47:39 -!- dg___ has quit [] 19:48:47 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 19:50:27 -!- bh has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:51:13 -!- scummos has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 19:53:09 -!- bh has joined ##crawl-dev 19:53:13 -!- Basil has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 19:57:59 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 19:58:13 -!- oberstein has joined ##crawl-dev 20:02:09 -!- alefury|2 has quit [] 20:02:32 -!- indspenceable has quit [Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. 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Currently it only considers HD but it would be trival to add a tag which makes the result higher. 20:44:00 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:49:03 -!- DracheReborn has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 20:51:47 -!- gammafunk_ has quit [Quit: gammafunk_] 20:52:02 -!- Croesus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:52:32 -!- Croesus has joined ##crawl-dev 20:56:13 reaver: I think I might just raise its actual HD and give it a lousy experience mod 20:57:09 bh: That's a fine solution, although it would mean some oddities like it resisting confusing touch. 20:57:21 I think a tag would be easier to read though. 20:57:25 unknown monster: "ignis" 20:57:25 %??ignis 20:57:42 It's just a monster that keeps its distanc, casts corona and has no attacks 21:01:38 ??ignis 21:01:39 ignis[1/1]: Abyssal monster in 0.14. Maintains range, casts {Corona}. 21:01:51 -!- adibis has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 21:01:52 ontoclasm suggested it last night 21:02:52 I saw it in the logs. Are you considering any more new monsters right now, like the ones in the Tavern thread? 21:03:30 I hardly looked at the tavern suggestions. I wasn't trying to start a "Let's brainstorm replacement monsters" thread 21:03:31 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 21:03:32 reaver: Are you an SCBW fan? 21:03:51 bh: Sorry about derailing it like that. 21:04:44 Croesus: No clue what that is, my username is a reference to the obsolete character class. 21:05:09 ah, okay nvm 21:05:41 reaver: I'm cool to look at it again 21:05:54 as long as we can get demons out of the abyss, I'm content 21:06:31 bh: So are you going to change the weights again after the revert? 21:07:02 reaver: I'd like to flat out remove all of the demons 21:07:11 'cause the Abyss isn't hells 21:07:41 I'd be fine with that too. Any other devs on board? 21:08:10 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.14-a0-513-gae8d2e5 (34) 21:08:38 <|amethyst> it sounded like marvinpa wouldn't have a problem with removing all demons, but thought only removing 3s was weird 21:09:41 |amethyst: I didn't remove all of them at once because I didn't want to depopulate the place 21:10:16 <|amethyst> right, but going from 4 to 2 is kind of weird 21:11:02 gotta agree here 21:11:03 -!- tenofswords has joined ##crawl-dev 21:11:07 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 21:11:12 <|amethyst> it's like squeezing toothpaste from the middle of the tube :) 21:11:18 good morning, dpeg :) 21:11:21 <|amethyst> maybe start by purging 1s (or 5s) 21:11:23 Morning! 21:11:31 wait no I forgot to actually present a patch 21:11:40 I think having a demon-free (or few demons) Abyss is a good long-term goal but I also think that we don't need to rush it. 21:12:01 E.g.: every time a new Abyss monster is added, remove the similar-threat-level least-interesting demon :) 21:12:25 flying skull (16z) | Spd: 15 | HD: 7 | HP: 14-27 | AC/EV: 10/17 | Dam: 14 | 07undead, evil, lev | Res: 06magic(28), 05fire, 02cold, 10elec, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 228 | Sz: tiny | Int: animal. 21:12:25 %??flying skull 21:12:45 Which eldritch monsters can constrict? 21:12:46 ignis (08*) | Spd: 12 | HD: 1 | HP: 6-12 | AC/EV: 0/10 | 11non-living, lev, !sil | Res: 06magic(4), 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm, 04napalm | XP: 2 | Sp: corona | Sz: small | Int: plant. 21:12:46 <|amethyst> %??ignis 21:12:49 I worry that it would take a ridiculous amount of effort to make enough monsters for that to be accomplished 21:12:59 <|amethyst> bh: tentmons 21:13:04 and people might fast-track through that effort 21:13:24 tenofswords: drawing 1/3rd of the spawns from outside of the abyss gives us a lot of leeway to cut down the list 21:13:30 <|amethyst> bh: and starspawn tentacle 21:13:36 <|amethyst> bh: octopodes if you count those 21:13:45 I'm not going to repeat my previous arguments 21:13:51 bh: is that choice completely random? Monsters from non-Abyss branches are cool and thematic but we don't want the chaff. 21:14:03 tenofswords: dammit -- are you hangedman? 21:14:09 yes 21:14:17 dpeg: at the moment, yes. It shouldn't be 21:14:19 -!- ophanim has joined ##crawl-dev 21:14:31 well, at least that can be agreed on 21:14:33 <|amethyst> tenofswords: have you read the Orson Scott Card short story, btw? 21:14:43 which 21:14:56 <|amethyst> "The Changed Man and the King of Words" 21:15:05 bh: okay! 21:15:09 tenofswords: your point is well taken, but I don't think that monsters are interesting in the context of a particular level, but in the context of each other 21:15:28 again, apart from some things like Vault Wardens 21:15:33 -!- Croesus_ has joined ##crawl-dev 21:17:44 -!- Croesus has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 21:18:25 -!- mineral is now known as Croesus 21:18:28 -!- Croesus is now known as mineral 21:18:37 <|amethyst> bh: also many of the Forest monsters 21:18:37 -!- Croesus_ is now known as Croesus 21:19:08 lost souls 21:19:25 <|amethyst> tenofswords: if you're spawning them with other Crypt spawns that's not so bad is it? 21:19:27 Don't those only appear as summons? 21:19:29 http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=yjswXpuJ 21:19:32 ERROR in 'mon-util.cc' at line 612: bogus mc (no monster data): invalid monster_type 1000 (1000) 21:19:32 %??lost soul 21:19:52 <|amethyst> hm 21:19:57 <|amethyst> wonder what's going on there 21:20:06 no, they're scattered throughout crypt 21:20:29 I doubt their teleportation and hd focus and such work well with the regular abyss monsters, though, since they can't help those 21:20:41 <|amethyst> tenofswords: they're not on the random spawn list 21:20:57 ...right, they get a special function 21:20:58 bah 21:21:01 tenofswords: I'll commit that 21:21:09 I 21:21:12 whatever 21:21:16 too tired 21:22:24 I personally think that demons being in abyss is an inevitable thing and trying to add a second new abyss monster set after the first instead of just a few more smoke-demon-tier threats is crazy 21:22:51 but I've said enough 21:22:51 -!- pelotr0n has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 21:23:07 as so often, I don't think it has to be rushed (but I'll admit I basically always rushed it :) 21:24:04 tenofswords: what I'm seeing is that a lot of very solid players have commented that the abyss sucks because all they do is run into smoke demons and get stat drained 21:24:09 |amethyst: thanks for fixing the abyss bug... 21:24:15 * Grunt will be back in a few minutes to join the discussion. 21:24:30 -!- eith has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 21:24:37 If Cheibrodos or Basil thinks something sucks, I'm going to give it a lot more consideration than someone flaming on the tavern, say 21:24:59 biting back my tongue 21:25:00 <|amethyst> re monster, it looks like the lost soul is popping before its information gets checked 21:25:41 definitely, absolutely not about to say anything about the choices besides highlighting them as choices 21:25:47 ??lost soul 21:25:48 lost soul[1/1]: A crypt monster which tries to stay away from you. If a non-zombie undead dies in its LOS, the lost soul will die instead (fully healing the undead.) If a living creature dies, it will become a spellcasting spectral version of that creature. If other enemies are around, will sometimes ignore the death of low HD creatures. 21:26:10 hm 21:26:20 <|amethyst> not sure why that would happen, since there shouldn't be any other creatures around besided the player 21:26:24 !learn edit lost_soul[1] s/\.\)/)./ 21:26:25 lost soul[1/1]: A crypt monster which tries to stay away from you. If a non-zombie undead dies in its LOS, the lost soul will die instead (fully healing the undead). If a living creature dies, it will become a spellcasting spectral version of that creature. If other enemies are around, will sometimes ignore the death of low HD creatures. 21:26:26 <|amethyst> s/sided/sides/ 21:26:38 they teleport if there's nothing nearby for them to effect 21:27:16 <|amethyst> just teleport, not cease to exist? 21:27:23 <|amethyst> because I'm getting a MONS_NO_MONSTER 21:28:27 03HangedMan02 {bh} 07* 0.14-a0-514-g5ac3e2f: Organize Abyss monster set list 10(11 minutes ago, 1 file, 93+ 93-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=5ac3e2fedb36 21:28:27 03HangedMan02 {bh} 07* 0.14-a0-515-gb6cafcd: Abyss monster set revisions 10(10 minutes ago, 1 file, 66+ 53-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=b6cafcdeea75 21:28:29 they, uh, also sometimes cease to exist 21:28:29 <|amethyst> hm 21:28:29 * ophanim beats Grunt with a fish 21:28:46 can't wait to find out how wrong I am too 21:29:56 if I remember correctly the lost soul teleport is supposed to be aimed for allies, and turns into a destruction if there's nothing to ally with 21:30:30 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 21:30:30 <|amethyst> ah, that would do it then 21:31:01 high time for sleep 21:31:06 -!- dpeg has quit [Quit: yay rune lock] 21:31:34 tenofswords: Just confirmed with the source code that's correct. 21:31:48 that second commit of mine warning about not placing so many spawns on later levels if we're going to make the set change with depth 21:31:57 that warning probably should be heeded 21:32:19 -!- DracheReborn has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:34:49 * Grunt chops ophanim's fish into pieces!!!! 21:35:19 * ophanim tackles Grunt into the next channel!! 21:40:26 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:41:05 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 21:43:14 -!- Bloax has quit [Quit: Error: Bloax not found] 21:43:46 -!- Tbigye has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 21:45:17 -!- xFleury has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 24.0/20130910160258]] 21:46:33 -!- omicroneta has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:46:51 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 21:47:02 -!- reaver has left ##crawl-dev 21:47:48 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 21:48:21 -!- reaver has quit [] 21:48:29 Hm, "boots of insulation" 21:49:26 I think the best place for resistance egos for aux slots is gloves 21:49:26 Grunt: are you going to fix up _get_random_level to do something reasonable for spawns? 21:49:31 making a useful boot ego besides running would create at least some choice 21:49:36 <|amethyst> I was going to say what tenofswords said 21:49:58 <|amethyst> gloves are kind of lame on the ego front 21:50:00 like, the glove egos are all mediocre and it's thematic for rC, rF, or rElec to be on them 21:50:11 ahem, ahem 21:51:15 gloves of gloveness? 21:51:29 I like the idea of resistance gloves. 21:52:16 well rElec is reasonably well differentiated from other resists by being rare on equipment 21:52:23 -!- CKyle has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:52:28 fair point 21:53:48 and it's also not a very common source of damage, you can generally get by on just potions of resistance in the places where it's particularly relevant (nikola, zot:5, ?) 21:53:55 sojobo? 21:54:15 <|amethyst> disc of storms :) 21:54:26 Storm dragons (not that they're extremely common either). 21:54:28 sojobo has one elec attack and maybe an elec weapon 21:54:32 not a big deal 21:54:57 * tenofswords shrugs 21:56:18 anyway I agree that a new glove ego would be good, but resistances are fairly boring 21:56:33 -!- minced has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 21:57:57 boxing gloves >_> 21:58:04 {punchdudes} 21:58:12 * Grunt attempts to think of a more useful idea than that. 21:58:18 Gaaah 21:58:31 <|amethyst> gloves of skill (+N to effective weapon skill, for some value of N) 21:58:33 boxing gloves {+str -type} 21:58:57 |amethyst: that sounds sort of cool to me 21:59:17 -!- tenofswords has quit [Quit: leaving] 21:59:18 gloves of manual dexterity 21:59:26 you can wield manuals 21:59:30 We already haves gloves of dexterity :b 21:59:35 as regular weapons 21:59:40 !abyss Zannick 21:59:41 bh casts a spell. zannick is devoured by a tear in reality! 22:00:32 -!- indspenceable has quit [Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 22:00:37 Could something like {fire}, but instead gave rF- instead of rC- be interesting? 22:00:45 -!- Red_Bucket has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:00:49 how about gloves that let you give orders while muted 22:01:07 gloves of sign language 22:01:08 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 22:01:26 DCSL 22:01:38 Zannick: I'm imagining an octopode making a rude gesture at some bad dudes 22:02:34 magician's gloves {Archmagi} 22:02:37 You flip Cerebov the bird. 22:02:39 (this sounds like an unrand somehow) 22:02:39 -!- Rebenga has quit [Quit: Goodbye, World] 22:02:48 (but we already have enough power enhancers) 22:02:57 hat of pondering never got rethemed as a fez, did it? 22:03:06 -!- Vaporware has joined ##crawl-dev 22:03:15 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 22:05:35 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 22:06:01 -!- DrinkMachine has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:07:52 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:11:17 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 22:11:51 -!- Vaporware has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:13:58 -!- tarantoga has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:16:11 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 22:17:27 -!- kait has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:17:30 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 22:21:06 -!- bh has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:21:23 TheProvocateur (L25 OgCK) ASSERT(!feat_is_solid(grd(ctarget))) in 'cloud.cc' at line 570 failed. (Forest:2) 22:23:48 -!- UseBees has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:24:41 <|amethyst> !lm TheProvocateur crash -log 22:24:41 3. TheProvocateur, XL25 OgCK, T:57085 (milestone): http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/TheProvocateur/crash-TheProvocateur-20131101-032122.txt 22:25:17 <|amethyst> orb of electricity vs tree 22:25:27 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 22:26:54 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:27:59 <|amethyst> oh, sorry, disc of storms vs tree 22:30:21 -!- tscho^^ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:35:59 -!- myrmidette has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 22:36:40 -!- Roarke has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:37:14 03bh02 07* 0.14-a0-516-g60ee58e: Revert "Revert Abyss/Thrashing horror changes" 10(61 minutes ago, 4 files, 13+ 12-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=60ee58ef7552 22:39:11 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 22:39:36 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:40:25 -!- DracheReborn has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 22:45:36 -!- adibis has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:47:59 -!- kekekela has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:50:35 -!- Lightli has joined ##crawl-dev 22:50:35 -!- Valarioth has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:50:46 *insert generic complaints about rune lock here* 22:55:06 -!- eb has quit [] 22:57:32 -!- Blazinghand_ is now known as Blazinghand 23:00:02 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 23:01:19 -!- myrmidette has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 23:03:26 03|amethyst02 07* 0.14-a0-517-g2cbfbd6: Fix a disc of storms rain-placement crash. 10(32 minutes ago, 1 file, 3+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=2cbfbd65a65a 23:03:26 03|amethyst02 07* 0.14-a0-518-gb7236c5: Prevent a few more potential clouds in solid features. 10(20 minutes ago, 3 files, 12+ 6-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=b7236c5810b5 23:03:26 03|amethyst02 07* 0.14-a0-519-g334afa2: Use cell_is_solid where appropriate. 10(10 minutes ago, 25 files, 55+ 55-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=334afa25fe4c 23:08:33 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:09:24 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 23:12:56 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:12:59 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 23:18:19 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 23:19:38 -!- ZChris13 has joined ##crawl-dev 23:26:13 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 23:28:57 -!- Pedjt has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 23:33:14 -!- bmfx has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 23:33:40 -!- Stelpa has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:34:26 |amethyst: i need another assignment 23:34:29 -!- Nex has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 23:36:11 -!- Stelpa has quit [Changing host] 23:41:07 -!- myrmidette has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:43:08 <|amethyst> Naruni: https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=7536 23:43:43 <|amethyst> Naruni: the spectral-weapon-running-away thing in particular has come up several times 23:47:39 -!- N78291 has quit [Quit: null] 23:51:14 -!- Rebthor has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 23:54:17 -!- gammafunk_ has joined ##crawl-dev 23:57:32 -!- MP2E has quit [Quit: leaving] 23:59:04 -!- mineral has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]