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If it's a dependency only on some platforms... 03:14:01 everyone else would get crappy old style backtraces 03:14:16 -!- Mandevil has quit [Quit: leaving] 03:14:51 well, it's kind of terrible and also not packaged as such 03:14:58 including, probably, release builds not for our own deployments 03:15:13 ok, is there a non-terrible one then? 03:15:19 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:15:25 as it is gdb and binutils are built with their own copies 03:16:24 kilobyte: so, does eu-addr2line work as well for you (after you install elfutils)? 03:17:13 that has the advantage that the libraries actually get installed 03:17:59 and seem to have fairly stable ABI 03:18:32 gives same output as binutils' addr2line 03:19:25 okay, so we can try the elfutils libraries then 03:19:34 -!- ainsophyao has joined ##crawl-dev 03:20:21 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 03:22:47 -!- SkaryMonk1 has joined ##crawl-dev 03:23:10 but I have to go to bed now 03:23:26 bie! 03:24:01 -!- 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the connection] 08:41:49 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:44:09 |amethyst: I just noticed that cszo webtiles claims that 0.13 is still beta. :b 09:06:51 -!- Pacra has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 09:12:05 -!- Cheibriados has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:13:15 -!- Cheibriados has joined ##crawl-dev 09:13:15 -!- The topic of ##crawl-dev is: Crawl Development | Logs: http://s-z.org/crawl-dev/ | People with +v have commit access. | Please keep general Crawl-related chit-chat to ##crawl. | Dev wiki: http://crawl.develz.org/wiki | Long stuff to pastebin.ca please | Immortal Warwalrus and Crazy Yiuf forever. 09:13:17 -!- The topic of ##crawl is: Check out new European server at ??clan! | Play Crawl online now: type ??cao, ??cdo, ??cszo, ??clan, or ??webtiles for instructions | http://crawl.develz.org | FooTV: termcast.develz.org | ##crawl-offtopic: You got your gender in my peanut butter! Xom thinks this is hilarious. 09:14:39 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 09:18:58 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 09:22:54 -!- SkaryMonk has joined ##crawl-dev 09:24:08 03Grunt02 07* 0.14-a0-365-g2883480: Piercer gets the penetration brand (was vorpal). 10(2 days ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=28834803047e 09:25:00 -!- SkaryMonk1 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 09:26:09 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 09:42:26 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 09:48:46 -!- metasyntactic is now known as kunwon1 09:49:37 -!- mineral has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 09:53:51 -!- Stormphoenix has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:54:14 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 10:01:20 -!- Stelpa has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:15:01 -!- Morg0th has quit [Quit: leaving] 10:16:25 -!- heteroy has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 10:19:49 Let '^' toggle the god description menu by BlackSheep 10:23:40 -!- heteroy has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 10:32:48 -!- radinms has quit [] 10:34:30 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 10:34:55 -!- jeanjacques has joined ##crawl-dev 10:35:45 -!- heteroy has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 10:36:59 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 10:37:04 -!- ketsa has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 10:37:12 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 10:37:33 -!- ainsophyao has joined ##crawl-dev 10:37:45 -!- Mandevil has quit [Quit: leaving] 10:41:22 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 10:49:02 -!- Valarioth has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:50:11 -!- kober has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 24.0/20130910160258]] 10:51:25 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 10:54:07 -!- heteroy has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 11:00:40 -!- necKro is now known as necKro23 11:03:14 -!- johlstei has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:07:16 -!- chlorine has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:07:55 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:08:07 -!- keszocze has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:08:34 brown ooze (07J) | Spd: 10 | HD: 7 | HP: 26-52 | AC/EV: 10/1 | Dam: 2508(acid:7d3) | 04eats items, sense invisible | Res: 06magic(65), 03poison, 08acid+++, asphyx, 12drown | XP: 245 | Sz: little | Int: plant. 11:08:34 %??brown ooze 11:13:18 -!- Hailley has quit [Quit: Petra is closed!] 11:15:07 -!- absolutego has quit [Quit: leaving] 11:15:29 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 11:18:18 -!- krixkrax has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:23:15 -!- SkaryMonk1 has joined ##crawl-dev 11:23:32 -!- SkaryMonk has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 11:25:25 -!- jason55 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 11:25:33 -!- xnavy has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:26:01 -!- heteroy has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 11:28:26 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:31:22 -!- Silurio has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 11:32:38 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:34:48 -!- Silurio1 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:39:44 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 11:40:51 -!- SurpriseTRex has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:41:00 -!- heteroy has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 11:43:06 18 tests, 18 succeeded, 0 failed 11:43:06 make: *** [test-test] Error 15 11:43:12 * SamB wonders why the error 15 ... 11:44:48 1-14 probably signify other things 11:48:53 I mean why doesn't it just return 0 if the tests were all successful ... 11:50:54 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:51:38 because there was an error! 11:51:47 probably not in a test 11:52:22 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 11:54:39 -!- debo has quit [Quit: debo] 11:56:49 hmm, it seems that util/fake_pty must be returning non-zero 11:59:02 PROBABLY returning 15, which seems like it can only happen if crawl does too 12:02:49 -!- SkaryMonk1 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:03:04 int ct_bonus = manual ? 4 : 0; <--- does this line mean ct_bonus = 4 if manual = true, 0 if manual = false? (manual is a bool) 12:03:21 Naruni, yes 12:03:25 danke 12:07:18 -!- myrmidette has joined ##crawl-dev 12:07:57 Stable (0.13) branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.13.0-19-g8e0b589 12:11:11 <|amethyst> SamB: sounds like crawl got SIGTERM 12:11:25 -!- myrmidette1 has quit [Client Quit] 12:12:12 -!- myrmidette1 has quit [Client Quit] 12:12:22 <|amethyst> SamB: fake_pty returns the status code from waitpid() rather than the actual return value (which would be WEXITSTATUS(ret)) 12:15:17 <|amethyst> Grunt: yeah, I haven't had a need to restart webtiles since release 12:15:30 -!- Cronoth has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:19:26 -!- Gotham has joined ##crawl-dev 12:19:28 -!- Gotham_ has joined ##crawl-dev 12:19:43 -!- Aponym has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 12:19:56 -!- jetnerd has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 12:21:11 -!- eith has joined ##crawl-dev 12:23:58 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.14-a0-365-g2883480 (34) 12:24:56 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:25:12 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 12:28:50 -!- DrinkMachine has joined ##crawl-dev 12:30:58 -!- Cryp71c has joined ##crawl-dev 12:31:09 -!- Cryp71c has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:31:20 -!- Cryp71c has joined ##crawl-dev 12:37:47 -!- uglyjohn_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:42:33 -!- Garhauk has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:44:49 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 12:46:03 -!- Guest62734 is now known as SwissStopwatch 12:47:06 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 12:47:18 -!- Cronoth_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 12:48:40 -!- heteroy has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 12:54:25 -!- CrazyArbalest has quit [Client Quit] 12:56:22 -!- Cryp71c has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:58:57 -!- Gotham_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:05:09 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:06:26 -!- Aryth has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:10:25 -!- heteroy has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 13:11:45 -!- alefury|2 has joined ##crawl-dev 13:16:30 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 13:30:14 -!- ChongLi has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 13:32:10 -!- heteroy has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 13:32:13 lol 13:32:25 is spectral weapon supposed to just run away if you go down stairs 13:32:49 it's pretty funny actually, but probably not WAI 13:32:50 ? 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15:07:13 -!- xnavy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:07:21 <|amethyst> oh, crawl itself, in run_tests 15:09:56 <|amethyst> so either it's hanging after than (the end() call isn't succeeding); or the woken_rest test is hanging 15:10:02 <|amethyst> s/than/that/ 15:11:32 -!- xFleury has joined ##crawl-dev 15:12:16 the -2,+8 crossbow "Trickshot" {bounce} 15:12:23 ...this works amusingly well with bolts of penetration. 15:23:33 -!- Zermako has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 15:25:49 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 15:26:11 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 15:36:38 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:37:19 so does sigterm mean my coverage output didn't get generated? 15:40:23 so, what uses `StoreValue's to store `coord_def' ... 15:40:44 -!- LexAckson has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:52:43 -!- Aryth1 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:55:35 -!- Roarke has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:58:45 Strat (L13 HOHe) (Lair:5) 16:05:00 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 16:05:45 -!- aves has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:10:08 -!- valtern has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:11:51 -!- Garhauk has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:16:52 -!- Stormphoenix has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:20:11 -!- tarantoga has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:20:11 -!- [1]tarantoga is now known as tarantoga 16:27:11 -!- paulsomebody has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:28:16 -!- ophanim has quit [Quit: ophanim] 16:28:50 -!- Ragdoll has quit [Quit: Houdoe] 16:33:31 -!- uglyjohn has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:34:35 -!- Cronoth has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 16:38:56 -!- Morg0th has quit [Quit: leaving] 16:41:02 -!- ark_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:42:37 -!- tinybat has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:43:19 -!- eith|2 has joined ##crawl-dev 16:45:52 -!- eith has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:48:18 -!- magicpoints has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:48:37 -!- eith|2 is now known as eith 16:49:08 hmm, looks like we want dwfl_linux_proc_report() for our own PID, or on non-Linux, I'm not quite sure what ... 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22:02:25 http://sprunge.us/FIFA 22:02:41 ...ick, I should clean up that first patch a bit; it looks ugly. 22:04:17 http://sprunge.us/CETB 22:04:57 -!- motorbit has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:05:04 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:08:43 -!- Cronoth has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:08:47 -!- xFleury has joined ##crawl-dev 22:09:32 -!- Somefellow has joined ##crawl-dev 22:09:52 -!- bh has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:10:05 -!- raskol has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 22:12:29 -!- xnavy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:14:44 -!- SwissStopwatch has joined ##crawl-dev 22:15:35 %git 9a5cc34 22:15:42 07kilobyte02 * 0.14-a0-363-g9a5cc34: Revert "Revert "Don't give Gargoyles innate rElec"" 10(26 hours ago, 1 file, 0+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=9a5cc34cc2c6 22:15:42 -!- ackack has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 22:17:12 -!- Suga_H has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:17:15 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 22:18:41 here's to hoping for Revert "Revert "Revert "...""" ... 22:18:59 Revert "Revert "Revert "Revert "Revert "[...]""""" 22:19:06 -!- Tbigye has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 22:19:22 -!- UseBees_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:20:13 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 22:20:17 * xFleury personally thinks rC makes the most sense; stone cracks quite easily from electricity, and even minor temperature changes. 22:24:16 Actually, hrm... I don't know what I think; rC doesn't make sense either. :S 22:24:58 ah all those mountains felled by lightning every year 22:25:18 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 22:25:24 -!- dagonfive has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:25:30 * xFleury quietly goes searching on YouTube for a video of a boulder exploding after getting hit by lightning... 22:26:34 xFleury: NOT HELPING 22:27:37 * Grunt again ponders things exploding if they get hit by Hellfire. 22:28:31 Grunt: if Xom helps... 22:28:37 -!- qbert911 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:29:23 do they actually need either one 22:30:55 it's not hard to overuse an effect 22:31:51 -!- Mandevil has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:32:16 <|amethyst> if too many mutations is the problem, maybe start with slow metabolism 22:32:26 <|amethyst> I don't think anyone would complain about them losing that 22:32:41 <|amethyst> I always forget they have it 22:32:46 |amethyst: why would "too many mutations" be a problem? 22:32:46 -!- ophanim has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:33:09 * kilobyte doesn't get why this would be a downsize rather than an upside. 22:33:18 s/ze/de/ 22:34:30 Grunt: exploding corpses are currently used by: disint, eyes, IOOD, quad damage, inner flame 22:34:43 kilobyte: I'm not seriously considering this, for the record :) 22:35:32 <|amethyst> FR: evocable with Energy Bolt 22:35:38 %git 1c54f6e 22:35:39 07MarvinPA02 * 0.14-a0-319-g1c54f6e: Don't give Gargoyles innate rElec 10(4 days ago, 1 file, 0+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=1c54f6e1cd9b 22:35:41 |amethyst: rod of devastation 22:35:48 "They have so many innate resistances and abilities already." 22:35:49 pressing 'A' gives a wall of text and most of it is irrelevant 22:36:13 hmm, looks like great orbs of eyes use disint instead of nuke, unlike eyes of devastation 22:36:30 (todo: change that) 22:36:36 seems inconsistent, if they're supposed to have other eyes on stalks 22:36:40 <|amethyst> kilobyte: probably for consistency with their other spells, all of which check MR 22:37:17 ah, this makes sense 22:37:51 not sure why we use "SPELL_ENERGY_BOLT" but "BEAM_NUKE" 22:38:33 IIRC old rods of striking used "bolt of energy" in their messages, too 22:39:04 BEAM_NUKE appears to be as old as DCSS is... 22:39:40 So is _ENERGY_BOLT. 22:39:49 So a reasonable explanation probably doesn't exist <_< 22:40:49 or at least is not to be found in any commit message 22:41:29 s/as old.*/from pre-DCSS Crawl days/ 22:43:31 introduced in 3.31, but only because it was beam type 27 or beam colour 15 22:43:47 ie, it comes from pre-enum days 22:44:11 -!- gammafunk has quit [Quit: gammafunk] 22:44:18 I'm kind of not going to analyze that deeper 22:44:35 gods, magic numbers! 22:44:43 kilobyte: sanity reasons no doubt 22:47:29 -!- kingbuddyboy has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 22:49:15 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 22:50:18 having beam behaviour depend on their colour deserves a special prize 22:50:45 What about beam behaviour that depends on the name of the beam? 22:50:48 * Grunt flees in terror. 22:52:25 Grunt: sounds scary. But no one sane would keep such code, would we? 22:52:35 <|amethyst> kilobyte: btw, when you removed the name dependency for ice dragon breath, you left a copy 22:52:49 <|amethyst> kilobyte: the monster-victim copy 22:54:13 <|amethyst> kilobyte: except that one refers to "freezing breath" 22:54:50 yay... 22:54:53 <|amethyst> kilobyte: beam_hits_actor also (which is poorly-named: it handles knockback only 22:54:56 <|amethyst> ) 22:55:07 kilobyte: we are clearly dealing with competing attempts on our sanity 22:55:45 go insane because the beam code does that stuff, or go insane trying to clean it up? 22:56:19 Both. 22:56:31 Being a dev at all slowly drives one insane if they didn't start there. <_< 22:56:40 -!- UseBees has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:57:26 well, I thought that's a requirement for joining 22:57:50 <|amethyst> kilobyte: It's a requirement for *wanting* to join 22:58:32 <|amethyst> Perhaps we could conscript the sane in order to corrupt them 23:00:39 -!- Pisano has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:01:04 Crawl's Hand of Corruption reaches out! 23:03:26 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 23:04:19 -!- VolteccerJack has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:04:20 -!- Pulseman is now known as VolteccerJack 23:04:25 From the murky drain, a hand reaches up --oops-- 23:04:48 bestest message in Nethack, including that custom --more-- prompt 23:19:39 -!- Cronoth has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:20:28 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 23:21:27 -!- st_ has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 23:22:04 * xFleury wishes DCSS had a fancier website. 23:22:39 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:22:41 We prefer to direct our fanciness to the gameplay, thanks. 23:22:42 :b 23:23:21 xFleury: are you saying we should have ontoclasm spice it up a bit with a few GIFs or something 23:23:31 SamB: "Under Construction" 23:23:37 SamB: a few BLINK tags here and there... 23:23:43 lol 23:23:47 so 90s 23:24:25 Don't forget to throw in some 23:26:30 so what midi music is the site going to play 23:26:44 lol 23:26:59 I think I still have a site that does that somewhere ... 23:27:04 -!- jameyd has quit [Quit: jameyd] 23:27:07 I wonder if I still have the password to change it? 23:27:29 should be at sbronson.tripod.{com,net,whatever} 23:32:21 * xFleury doesn't think the site has changed in the past 5-8 years. 23:38:26 -!- thorgi has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:42:37 -!- thorgi has quit [Client Quit] 23:42:38 -!- [1]thorgi is now known as thorgi 23:45:12 Unstable branch on crawl.lantea.net updated to: 0.14-a0-365-g2883480 (34) 23:46:28 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 23:48:54 -!- NomadJim has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:51:18 -!- N78291 has quit [Quit: null] 23:53:13 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:55:13 SamB: i don't do gifs 23:55:19 -!- Rebthor has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:55:33 well PNGs then 23:55:41 also I didn't say anything about animating them 23:55:43 hah 23:55:47 i'm joking 23:56:06 the above line was intended to be read in a hipster brogue 23:56:08 * xFleury ships ontoclasm the 5-floopy disc installation of Netscape Composer. 23:56:44 hey, the first graphics i did were made on an apple IIe 23:56:57 that's how cool i am 23:57:10 xFleury: I don't remember a GIF editor in there 23:57:12 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 23:58:56 Hmm, you're right. Strange, I thought it had one, or at least the ability to export an image as a GIF. :| 23:59:25 did you just try it ;-D 23:59:44 try this shareware copy of PSP 23:59:56 * SamB wonders where he could actually dig up one of those