00:01:27 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.14-a0-242-g0d450b6 (34) 00:01:35 -!- hurdos1 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 00:03:39 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 00:05:51 Unstable branch on rl.heh.fi updated to: 0.14-a0-242-g0d450b6 (34) 00:08:55 -!- gammafunk has quit [Quit: gammafunk] 00:08:56 -!- gammafunk_ is now known as gammafunk 00:15:38 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.14-a0-242-g0d450b6 (34) 00:17:42 -!- Furril has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 00:19:29 -!- floatboth has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:21:26 -!- dg__ has joined ##crawl-dev 00:23:36 -!- dg__ has quit [Client Quit] 00:24:10 I don't suppose anyone could show me a quick way to get a history of levcomp.lex.cc (from 0.12 to 0.13)? 00:25:27 git blame on the prebuilt copies? 00:25:33 or git log, whatever 00:25:53 or did you actually want to look at the source file, perhaps? 00:26:37 or IS that the source ... 00:26:51 strange name for source if it is 00:28:04 There's a very large integer array in it that looks generated, but alot of that file looks pretty static. I'm not sure if I need to see a history of the source, or the history of the prebuilt. 00:28:07 no, the source is levcomp.lpp 00:28:18 -!- ophanim has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:28:32 -!- home has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:30:07 levcomp.lpp doesn't look sophistcated enough to generate levcomp.lex.cc 00:30:45 do you think it's a bug in the template? 00:33:17 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.14-a0-242-g0d450b6 00:36:15 xFleury: if you can follow M4, the skeleton for the generated lexer is at http://sourceforge.net/p/flex/flex/ci/master/tree/flex.skl 00:36:53 (Actually, it's there even if you can't follow the M4, and it might even be of some use; I don't know ...) 00:36:54 I did a quick DIFF of levcomp.lex.cc from 0.12 with the one from 0.13, it looks like that file might not be the cuplrit. 00:41:25 -!- CosmicBrownie has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:45:29 -!- floatboth has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:46:11 -!- HenryClay has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:48:09 -!- ZChris13 has quit [Disconnected by services] 00:48:13 -!- ZChris13_ has joined ##crawl-dev 00:48:18 -!- ZChris13_ is now known as ZChris13 00:51:13 -!- indspenceable has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:51:40 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 00:53:19 bah, I can't figure this out; I don't know why it's erroring out while parsing altar.des in Debug 00:55:20 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 00:55:50 -!- indspenceable has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:57:36 -!- opiate has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:59:15 -!- Stossel has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:02:14 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 01:04:27 -!- Taraiph has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 01:08:28 -!- Basil has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:14:08 -!- Pepe has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:19:22 !tell mumra I've given up trying to figure out why flex is giving an "input in flex scanner failed" when parsing the contents of altar.des in Debug build. 01:19:25 xFleury: OK, I'll let mumra know. 01:21:08 When updating, is all you have to do is replace crawl.exe and "dat"? 01:23:14 you don't want the updated docs? 01:23:47 really, you should just keep your saves directory and toss the rest 01:24:04 ^ 01:25:05 well, I suppose your config too 01:25:54 -!- GuraKKa1 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:25:57 -!- ogaz has joined ##crawl-dev 01:28:12 -!- Tarquinn has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:28:31 -!- tkappleton has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:30:48 -!- Sgeo has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:32:33 -!- Kaput has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:34:52 -!- VolteccerJack has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Organize your IRC] 01:38:07 -!- GuraKKa has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:38:16 -!- thened has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:38:55 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 01:41:17 -!- xFleury has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 24.0/20130910160258]] 01:41:21 -!- indspenceable has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:41:26 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:41:27 -!- sumguy has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:41:48 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 01:42:35 -!- bmfx has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:43:09 -!- floatboth has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:46:03 -!- Alumjha has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:46:37 -!- indspenceable has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 01:47:46 -!- dg_ has joined ##crawl-dev 01:49:47 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 01:56:03 -!- ZChris13 has quit [Disconnected by services] 01:56:07 -!- ZChris13_ has joined ##crawl-dev 01:56:13 -!- ZChris13_ is now known as ZChris13 02:05:55 -!- dead_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:09:49 -!- floatboth has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:12:14 -!- ZChris13 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:14:41 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 02:23:15 -!- superc has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:24:33 -!- ogaz has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:29:39 -!- ZebTM has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:31:21 -!- heteroy_ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 02:32:38 -!- ZebTM_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:34:59 -!- ogaz has joined ##crawl-dev 02:42:18 -!- ZChris13 has joined ##crawl-dev 02:43:59 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 02:49:20 -!- gammafunk_ has joined ##crawl-dev 02:49:37 -!- gammafunk_ has quit [Client Quit] 02:49:49 -!- floatboth has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:01:08 -!- Wah has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:01:48 -!- Hailley has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:01:56 -!- minqmay has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:03:37 -!- radinms has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 03:04:24 SamB, Just keeping up with the RSS builds, and yeah I want to keep my init.txt 03:05:30 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:12:45 -!- indspenceable has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:13:12 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 03:17:49 -!- indspenceable has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 03:19:43 -!- LexAckson has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:26:13 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:32:38 -!- omnirizon has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:36:37 -!- BlasterBlade has joined ##crawl-dev 03:38:56 -!- xFleury has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 24.0/20130910160258]] 03:39:59 -!- BlasterBlade has quit [Client Quit] 03:40:17 -!- mumra_ has joined ##crawl-dev 03:40:26 -!- mumra has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 03:41:51 SamB: I don't think we use "UNICODE" file mode anywhere on Windows. As the name says, you need to use the "ANSI" mode for Unicode support. 03:42:36 as that "UNICODE" stands for blind UCS2/UTF-16, which no file installed by Crawl uses 03:43:50 we actually support such encodings if they start with a BOM, no matter how insane that is. It's there as notepad.exe sometimes produces UCS2. 03:43:51 -!- gowby has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:45:04 every single use of two-byte API, though, goes through SomeFunctionW rather than standard C 03:45:38 -!- BlasterBlade has joined ##crawl-dev 03:46:02 can tiles and terminal version use the same DATADIR and SAVEDIR? 03:46:07 so I'm unsure how that assert could happen, unless someone turns a MSVC specific flag 03:46:25 BlasterBlade: yes, that's the default 03:47:08 so when i make an rpm, should i create crawl-data package as requirement for both versions? 03:47:37 that's what I did in Debian, yeah 03:47:37 -!- mong has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:48:02 what files get copied in datadir and how to find them in tarball? 03:48:17 then Guus Sliepen split tile data further away, but that's because Debian has so many architectures 03:48:46 few files get copied verbatim, at least for tiles 03:49:19 is there any makefile command to create the datadir? 03:49:24 after "make install" you can look inside and compare 03:49:40 yes, there are docs at the start of the Makefile 03:50:04 can i use just datadir from tiles build for both? 03:50:41 -!- ZChris13 has quit [Quit: This is not a desk. It is not being flipped.] 03:50:51 -!- simmarine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:51:02 you can 03:51:22 it's simplest to specify just prefix=/usr 03:51:33 okay, thank you 03:51:39 which turns on FHS mode 03:53:43 -!- alefury has joined ##crawl-dev 03:55:57 where can i get debian package control file? i want to take a look 04:03:39 -!- Taraiph has joined ##crawl-dev 04:04:13 -!- ogaz has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 04:04:13 -!- eurtek has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 04:04:41 -!- Roarke has quit [Quit: Page closed] 04:04:59 -!- Taraiph has quit [Client Quit] 04:06:19 BlasterBlade: under http://crawl.develz.org/debian 04:09:28 -!- ZebTM has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 04:21:21 -!- jeanjacques has joined ##crawl-dev 04:23:50 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 04:28:08 -!- indspenceable has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:53:18 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 04:53:50 -!- Soadreqm has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:04:46 -!- elliptic has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 05:12:33 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 05:13:06 -!- magicpoints has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 05:16:27 -!- xFleury has joined ##crawl-dev 05:16:59 * xFleury coughs. 05:17:50 -!- Flex has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:18:45 -!- Somefellow has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:20:33 -!- LogicNinja has quit [Quit: Page closed] 05:24:23 -!- radinms has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 05:27:41 -!- johnny0_ has joined ##crawl-dev 05:29:55 -!- ZebTM_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 05:30:40 -!- johnny0 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 05:31:05 -!- gammafunk has quit [Quit: gammafunk] 05:31:09 -!- sildraith has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 05:37:13 -!- Gilihad has quit [Quit: Page closed] 05:43:56 -!- _D_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:45:09 -!- mumra_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:50:11 -!- _D_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:52:45 -!- magistern has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 05:53:48 -!- Vizer_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 05:54:09 -!- floatboth has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:55:48 -!- _D_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:05:50 -!- _D_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:06:15 -!- BlasterBlade has left ##crawl-dev 06:09:41 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 06:12:11 -!- _D_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:14:08 -!- Zermako has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:17:03 -!- _D_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:17:40 -!- bh_ has joined ##crawl-dev 06:17:42 -!- bh_ is now known as bh 06:17:45 morning 06:20:09 -!- floatboth has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:22:23 -!- _D_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:23:18 bh 06:23:58 -!- ZebTM has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 06:26:43 -!- bh has quit [Quit: Page closed] 06:28:01 -!- _D_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:32:31 -!- _D_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:36:32 -!- Basil has joined ##crawl-dev 06:42:55 -!- _D_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:44:31 -!- Ladykiller69 is now known as Drahbeg 06:49:43 -!- Guest62734 has joined ##crawl-dev 06:50:28 -!- SwissStopwatch has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:52:36 -!- _D_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:54:14 -!- ShadeTornado has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 06:55:20 -!- st_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:55:46 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 06:58:42 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 07:01:53 -!- Vandal has joined ##crawl-dev 07:04:11 -!- blabber has joined ##crawl-dev 07:07:05 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 07:07:49 -!- mineral has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 07:15:53 -!- UnknownUser_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:17:28 -!- Drahbeg has joined ##crawl-dev 07:18:06 would there be an easy way to make rng shift more towads the extremes? 07:20:14 -!- st_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:20:38 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 07:23:59 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 07:24:33 -!- scummos^ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 07:27:02 -!- rossi_ has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.2] 07:28:22 nice 07:28:30 I gained aprox 2k :D 07:29:32 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 07:30:14 Drahbeg: More towards the extremes in what case? 07:30:33 monsters and items maybe 07:30:41 would balance itself out nicely I presume 07:34:41 -!- indspenceable has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 07:35:16 -!- blabber has quit [Quit: leaving] 07:38:38 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 07:42:48 -!- indspenceable has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:44:33 -!- Helmschank has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 07:47:28 uh, what? 07:47:48 because we need more crap monsters and items littering the dungeon? 07:47:48 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 07:52:11 -!- indspenceable has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:52:51 -!- Gotham has joined ##crawl-dev 08:05:11 -!- hurdos has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:10:16 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 08:13:32 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 08:14:24 -!- blabber has joined ##crawl-dev 08:16:33 -!- pi31415 has quit [Quit: leaving] 08:17:34 You know what would be a cool magic spell; something that converted items on the ground to gold. 08:17:54 Past a certain point, gold becomes useless anyways... so doubt it'd be too useful to ad. 08:18:06 -!- indspenceable has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 08:19:22 -!- pi31415 has joined ##crawl-dev 08:25:54 non-combat spells don't work 08:26:42 -!- ackack has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:26:56 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 08:28:52 -!- radinms has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 08:31:22 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:31:53 -!- dg_ has quit [] 08:33:15 -!- Kurshu has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:44:29 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:45:49 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 08:46:20 -!- duralumin has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:53:51 crawl.akrasiac.org seems to be lagging badly right now. 08:54:16 Both games I was watching ended; the one guy left after complaining of lag, and the other seemed to have timed-out. 08:54:36 (after also complaining of lag) 09:01:40 -!- miaout17_ is now known as miaout17 09:05:45 -!- heteroy_ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 09:09:30 -!- fufumann has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:10:02 03kilobyte02 07* 0.14-a0-243-gfbc51d4: Be more realistic about Win98 builds. 10(2 days ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=fbc51d48feb5 09:10:02 03kilobyte02 07* 0.14-a0-244-gcc301ba: Don't blank the screen during --mapstat. 10(2 days ago, 2 files, 6+ 7-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=cc301ba6b639 09:10:02 03kilobyte02 07* 0.14-a0-245-g93e91fa: Allow easily aborting mapstat. 10(2 days ago, 3 files, 15+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=93e91faddff5 09:10:02 03kilobyte02 07* 0.14-a0-246-g36c3058: Fix no longer supported tags appearing in .pl hell effect messages. 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 12+ 12-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=36c305885168 09:10:04 -!- magicpoints has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 09:10:57 Cherry-picked 1 commit into stone_soup-0.13 09:20:07 -!- Cronoth has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 09:22:38 03kilobyte02 07* 0.14-a0-247-g796714c: Leak the identity of unfinished monsters spawning in real games. 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=796714c9d67b 09:23:32 Cherry-picked 1 commit into stone_soup-0.13 09:23:53 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 09:25:16 1learn add it Warning: Monster 'it' is not yet fully coded. 09:25:41 ...oh. 09:25:44 ??it[$ 09:25:44 it[30/30]: Warning: monster 'it' is not yet fully coded. 09:44:50 -!- Soadreqm has quit [Quit: BREAK] 09:50:44 what about making Imprison use grates rather than metal walls? 09:50:49 -!- ShadeTornado has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:51:03 it would make the effect more obvious 09:51:07 -!- oberstein has joined ##crawl-dev 09:51:08 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 09:53:43 -!- WildSam has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:54:20 can't monsters shoot through them? 09:54:32 They can smite and act. 09:54:55 -!- Wah has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 09:55:24 And I don't know if it's just old memories, but I recall summons being able to be spawned through them. 09:55:35 which means that a lich can spam fiends at you behind grates 09:56:42 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 09:58:15 -!- Moanerette has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 09:59:23 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 10:03:47 -!- Taraiph has joined ##crawl-dev 10:09:16 -!- fooobarrr has joined ##crawl-dev 10:10:56 Is there a reason crawl doens't use autoconf for the *nix builds? 10:15:21 -!- trckry has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 10:18:28 -!- hayuto has quit [Quit: leaving] 10:19:36 -!- daenar has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:22:49 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 10:28:05 -!- radinms has quit [] 10:30:27 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 10:30:28 -!- CKyle has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:30:38 -!- Wah has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:31:19 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 10:32:39 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 10:36:42 -!- ogaz has joined ##crawl-dev 10:38:19 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 10:40:13 purple drac breath dispels mark 10:41:39 -!- joalland has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:45:58 -!- Aryth has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.0.4 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/] 10:46:14 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:46:40 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 10:47:53 -!- wizardist has quit [Client Quit] 10:48:13 intentional afaik, since it is a magical effect 10:49:06 -!- Cronoth has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:51:34 -!- st_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:51:56 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 10:54:50 -!- johnny0_ is now known as johnny0 10:58:08 -!- Basil has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:00:37 -!- tupper has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 11:00:58 FR: Guarantee a zig *somewhere* 11:01:40 ogaz: pan 11:01:54 without having to trundle around pan forever :/ 11:02:19 fooobarrr: it's long overdue, yeah. Current Makefile hacks have long exceeded what can be sanely done. 11:02:50 whenever talk of making pan finite or something like that comes up, there's the idea of removing zigs from pan and adding a guaranteed zig on some specific late D level 11:03:09 and then people complain that they won't be able to scum pan for infinite zigs :P 11:03:28 even if Pan doesn't become finite, why not guarantee a zig on a late dungeon level? 11:03:46 (normally I wouldn't care but I want tourney things) 11:03:48 fooobarrr: someone tried cmake, but it just can't handle cross-compilation, nor our current targets 11:04:40 ogaz: personally I don't like guaranteeing zigs at all because I think then people will be more likely to start to think of zig completion as necessary for a "complete game" 11:04:59 and zig balance/gameplay will always be weird 11:05:17 that's fair, I'm just frustrated right now because I want to do one and can't find one 11:05:35 I agree that scumming pan for one isn't good either though, probably it would be better to guarantee one than the current status 11:05:52 has premake ever been considered? it seems to have 'experimental' cross-compiling support, and it can generate IDE projects 11:06:12 (disclaimer: I've never used it) 11:06:23 ogaz: another option is to go nemelex and get one from a trowel card, btw 11:06:41 since you can get one (but only one) that way each game 11:07:27 elliptic: but I'd have to sac so much stuff to do that! Or Ash to find out if my pan level has one, I suppose 11:11:50 Why isn't a menu pickup style the default? 11:13:41 -!- hyperbolic has joined ##crawl-dev 11:14:14 -!- elliptic has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:14:32 -!- hyperbolic is now known as elliptic 11:14:56 -!- ur221 has quit [Client Quit] 11:17:29 -!- ballblasta has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:18:56 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 11:22:55 -!- stani has quit [Client Quit] 11:23:17 The y/n prompts on a bunch of trash can easily make you miss actually useful things. 11:23:21 kilobyte: There seems to be some disagreement on whether or not cmake can handle cross-compilation. It certainly seems a lot more used/supported in autocrap though ... 11:23:43 Or just make you go through it all again to not press 'n' on the good thing again. 11:29:17 Bloax: 'gm' 11:29:54 also, i think there is a rc setting that makes menu mode default 11:30:27 Naruni: I can't see how 'gm' makes it better for it not to be default. 11:32:36 Bloax: so why not change your rc file? pickup_mode = (multi | single | auto:X) 11:32:58 I have. 11:33:09 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 11:33:33 But seeing others shovelling through stuff just feels painfully pointless. 11:35:41 You shouldn't forget that webtiles can easily have delays. 11:35:46 Which makes an interface like this even worse. 11:36:34 SamB: there's also a time-honored option of following the NIH route 11:37:10 you mean just keep or stupid Makefiles? 11:37:14 s/or/our/ 11:37:39 I think some form of a configure script is not optional 11:37:42 Would you rather sort through a bunch of trash at a slow pace so as to not miss what you're after, or just open a menu and pick the item you want? 11:38:01 the make part itself is probably better done using make 11:38:25 or, a less known option, ninja 11:38:45 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 11:39:06 it drops most of make's features like conditional builds, doing only the rebuild part, but doing it well 11:39:37 ninja files are supposed to be generated, IIRC 11:40:00 Zaba: yes, that seemed obvious from the lack of conditional stuff 11:40:06 including primitives for "these tile defs resulted in a header identical as before, so you don't need to rebuild its reverse dependencies" 11:40:38 which sounds good for us, with the amount of generated files that produce multiple results 11:42:25 I don't know of a good autotools-analog for ninja, though 11:42:51 -!- Lawman0 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:45:31 duplicating autoconf is rather trivial (99.9% of autoconf proper is for handling quirks of 1980's unices), automake is the part that would take sizeable work 11:47:00 -!- Paroid has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:47:01 you can do better than duplicating, though -- parallelizing compilation checks would be great 11:48:51 to be fair, much of the framework for handling quirks in 1980s unices is still useful; just many of the specific checks are fairly irrelevant now 11:49:07 -!- Hailley has quit [Quit: Petra is closed!] 11:50:56 definitely not worth wasting 17 thousand lines of shell script on 11:52:15 MDvedh (L21 MiBe) (Vaults:4) 11:52:24 -!- Leafsnail has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:53:13 freezing wraith (12W) | Spd: 8 | HD: 8 | HP: 42-51 | AC/EV: 12/10 | Dam: 1912(cold:8-23) | 07undead, 10doors, evil, see invisible, lev | Res: 06magic(42), 12cold+++, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm, 04napalm | Vul: 04fire, 08holy++ | XP: 136 | Sz: Medium | Int: normal. 11:53:13 %??freezing wraith 11:57:48 -!- Moanerette has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:00:27 -!- Nex has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:08:21 Stable (0.13) branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.13.0-5-g7e31f0a 12:10:54 SamB: I'd say the biggest problem with autoconf is that it uses an unholy combination of m4 and shell. And no one knows m4 these days. 12:12:06 -!- zzxc has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:12:13 I've written ~10 autoconfages, using proper m4 rather than shell blobs. And I really wish I won't see m4 again. 12:13:28 yeah, I know what you mean 12:13:59 * geekosaur knows m4 all too well. (and yes, happier not touching it again) 12:14:34 * xFleury wishes someone would poke around at why MSVC build in Debug throws an assert with the level generator. 12:14:47 I found the gcc package's control.m4 a real pain to deal with, and what's worse it's still full of repetition ... 12:15:01 -!- Guest62734 is now known as SwissStopwatch 12:17:21 -!- Taraiph has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 12:22:07 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.14-a0-247-g796714c (34) 12:22:59 -!- ainsophyao has joined ##crawl-dev 12:23:56 -!- UnknownUser_ is now known as UnknownUser 12:24:23 -!- Guest60572 has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 12:26:10 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 12:32:20 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:40:12 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 12:41:03 * xFleury loads up MSVC. 12:41:06 Alright, one more try... 12:44:11 I don't suppose anyone here knows a trick to figure out where an exit(2) might be getting called? 12:45:13 you mean besides setting a breakpoint? 12:45:35 "a" ? 12:45:42 also there may be a variant called _exit 12:45:42 There's probably several hundred exit() 12:45:51 I meant on the function 12:47:18 -!- Nex has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:48:23 It looks like "_exit()" is never called directly from crawl; it seems only to use "exit()". 12:49:04 #define YY_EXIT_FAILURE 2 12:49:07 exit( YY_EXIT_FAILURE ); 12:49:14 well, that was easy ;D 12:49:25 It's the only occurance of '2' I can find. 12:51:26 Ok, here's what I know so far. The first time the MSVC build is ran in Debug, "levcomp.lex.cc" gives an "input in flex scanner failed" and exit(2) gracefully (no further errors). 12:51:50 On the second time MSVC is ran, it gives same error message, but then asserts. 12:52:27 -!- ogaz has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:52:47 So something is being mutated; I'm resorting to deleting the entire crawl folder and recreating it on each attempt. 12:54:00 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:55:55 -!- Venter has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:57:59 sysinternals has a tool you could use to trace the I/O 13:00:08 xFleury: well, I wasn't sure if you were worried about calls from libraries or not 13:00:22 also I thought we might resort to _exit once 13:02:46 Here's where I'm at right now: http://i.imgur.com/7FoC5Wp.png 13:04:11 The file it loaded was "C:/crawl-0.13.0-fairplay/source/dat/des/altar/altar.des" 13:07:26 -!- yokelz has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:08:15 There's some snafu going on in maps.cc's "_parse_maps" function. 13:08:46 (at least to my eyes) 13:11:35 "The content of a FILE object is not meant to be accessed from outside the functions of the and headers; In fact, portable programs shall only use them in the form of pointers to identify streams...." (http://www.cplusplus.com/reference/cstdio/FILE) 13:12:23 Yet it looks like flex is being passed some of those contents; the ptr and buffer. 13:12:58 -!- ainsophyao has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:18:32 xFleury: passed how? 13:18:39 and I assume you mean the flex-generated lexer 13:19:50 <|amethyst> maybe we should try downgrading to an earlier flex? When I added ORDER:, I rebuilt the pregenerated yacc/lex stuff with a newer version 13:20:57 <|amethyst> but I'm not seeing anything obvious that would try to access members of a FILE directly 13:22:09 <|amethyst> are you sure you're not seeing something like the expansion of the getc macro 13:22:14 -!- xnavy has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:22:50 <|amethyst> (which is defined by libc's headers, so might be expected to refer to internals 13:22:53 <|amethyst> ) 13:23:29 certainly is permitted to refer to internals 13:24:03 <|amethyst> It would help if we had some idea of what exactly was being parsed when the error occurred 13:24:05 it would be much cleaner if clients of the libc never even saw FILE completed, but I'm not positive that's legal 13:25:01 xFleury: whereabouts does that buffer pointer point? 13:25:49 hmm, we could maybe enable debugging in flex ... 13:26:32 xFleury: do you happen to have a *nix system convenient to run flex on? 13:28:52 Sorry, I'm soo distracted trying to following along all the pre-processor macros, lol... they honestly couldn't have made this any more difficult to follow... 13:29:21 How difficult would it be to test an older version of Flex? Would it be just swapping in an older file? 13:29:45 -!- Crehl has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:29:59 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 13:30:03 I've got a VMware player with Ubuntu on it. 13:31:53 -!- rapierx has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:33:11 -!- Venter_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:33:16 xFleury: probably just find a .deb for an older version and install that, then do the dance to generate the file, then copy it over 13:34:20 One thing that is absolutely driving me nutts, is all the references to "#line 257 "levcomp.tab.c" when the file is called levcomp.tab.cc! 13:34:23 MSVC dies. 13:34:48 ontoclasm: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/63152810/n/crawl/m/dirttilesstuff.png what am i doing again 13:35:14 Someone must have renamed that file from ".c" to ".cc" at some point, but forgot to change the C++ "#line" macros. 13:35:25 -!- blabber has quit [Quit: leaving] 13:35:30 And so when you try to step through it in the debugger, you get a missing source file error. 13:36:22 it might be easiest to find one on snapshot.debian.org ? 13:36:35 xFleury: actually, the Makefile does the renaming 13:36:48 I guess a quick sed should fix that 13:37:54 -!- magistern has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 13:38:05 -!- chlorine has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 13:44:48 -!- Crehl_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:46:11 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/63152810/n/crawl/m/wahat.png is this even an improvement 13:48:08 -!- jeffro has joined ##crawl-dev 13:48:09 lol, I'm confused again; "GNU Bison" "Yacc" and "flex". How do these relate to eachother, and which does crawl use? 13:49:21 -!- jeffrom has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:51:05 ah wait, nevermind I think I see it 13:51:15 Flex does the tokenization, Bison does the actual parsing. 13:52:50 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 13:55:11 -!- SamB has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:57:16 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 14:00:06 -!- Helmschank has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 14:01:03 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 14:04:48 -!- Soadreqm has quit [Quit: BREAK] 14:04:53 -!- mrtweetyhack has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:08:36 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 14:09:05 -!- SamB has joined ##crawl-dev 14:11:46 xFleury: Yeah, that's right. Also I think whenever we say yacc we mean bison. 14:12:14 yah, I noticed bison said it was upstream compatible with yacc or something 14:12:24 so for practical purposes, they probably mean the same 14:12:58 -!- Crehl__ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:14:13 Interesting. 14:14:15 !apt Exp 14:14:16 Exp: Ha: 1!, Hu: 1!, Ko: 1!, Op: 0, Gh: 0, HO: 0, Mf: 0, Gr: 0, Gr: , Te: 0, Na: 0, Og: 0, Mu: -1, Mi: -1, Ds: -1, Sp: -1, Dj: -1, : -1, Vp: -1, HE: -1, DE: -1, LO: -1, DD: -1, Ce: -1, Tr: -1, Fe: -1, Dg: -2* 14:14:54 "Gr: 0, >Gr: ,< ... Dj: -1,> : -1, <" 14:16:12 -!- _D_ has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 14:17:39 xFleury: I sort of doubt we've ever tested with any other "yacc" 14:21:09 "C:/crawl-0.13.0-fairplay/source/dat/dlua/sanity.lua:4: No map found for Zot:$" 14:21:44 hmmm 14:24:29 Any time I touch something, everything seems to break, and I've got to recreate the entire project folder, lol. 14:24:44 I'm glad I made a "crawl - copy" folder so that I don't have to do full recompiles. 14:25:43 -!- heteroy_ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 14:30:07 -!- read_ is now known as read 14:30:10 -!- read is now known as mineral 14:35:05 -!- Nightbeer has joined ##crawl-dev 14:36:54 xFleury: I was going to suggest adding --debug to the commandline for flex in util/Makefile and regenerating 14:37:08 -!- duralumin has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:38:31 -!- Drahbeg has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:43:26 -!- duralumin_ is now known as duralumin 14:44:21 -!- johlstei has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:50:06 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 14:51:22 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 14:52:25 -!- Morg0th is now known as Alchemist8 14:54:41 -!- Alchemist8 has quit [Quit: Changing server] 14:57:31 Why yes flex, calling fread on a buf who's address is 0xcccccccc is a great idea... 14:58:45 -!- Nightbeer is now known as ladykiller69 15:02:05 -!- Wah has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 15:05:30 -!- Quashie has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:08:20 -!- Burer has quit [Quit: Truly, the end of days.] 15:10:01 Summons die when the monster dies.. I love you guys... 15:10:04 when was this added? 15:10:23 TZer0: not in 0.13, sadly 15:10:28 TZer0: it's bh's fault 15:10:32 it was added to trunk pretty recently as an experimental change 15:10:43 I like it 15:10:47 A much welcome change. 15:10:51 even though it means that more fights fight like Pikel 15:11:00 eh? summons die in 0.13 when summoner dies 15:11:03 (now can we just remove summons too?) 15:11:10 xFleury: no 15:11:14 also, if we want something in between 15:11:25 have them disappear in 0.25x of the time or something? 15:11:50 -!- magicpoints has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:12:15 oh, maybe I was accidently spectating trunk and not 0.13 then 15:12:33 -!- October has quit [Client Quit] 15:16:52 -!- Wah has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 15:17:38 -!- scummos has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:19:09 -!- wtf_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:19:34 So.. I think there might stack corruption on MSVC build; the debugger is going absolutely bonkers. 15:19:37 elliptic: +1 to just axing summoning altogether 15:23:45 is it okay if I commit a prebuilt parser made with Bison 2.7.12-4996 ? 15:24:12 SamB: you mean, 2.5 is no good? 15:24:50 no, I just wanted to fix the bogus #line directives and that's the version I have installed 15:25:44 alternatively, I could just commit the util/Makefile fix and someone else could update the prebuilt files 15:26:09 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 15:26:15 |amethyst committed one built with 2.5, but only because it was what he has installed. It was 2.7 before. 15:26:21 * xFleury is starting to get the feeling that building levcomp.lex.cc on gcc, isn't guaranteed to work on msvc. 15:26:45 xFleury: it certainly SHOULD work with MSVC 15:26:50 xFleury: it's supposed to work on all supported compilers 15:27:38 should I make one commit or two? 15:28:13 if you feel you have a reason, sure 15:29:16 I mean should I include the generated file change with the Makefile fix? 15:29:43 if you're doing compiles atm, could you toss me a version that is generated with debug? and I can try it out right now 15:30:33 SamB: might be best to commit the source and precompiled separately 15:39:23 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:39:31 hmm, does ninja also do better with the concept of multiple build products? 15:39:34 SamB: So in source/util/Makefil, I change "LEX := flex" to "LEX := flex --debug" ? 15:40:01 that would probably work 15:40:20 Do I run "make" in that folder (/source/util), or do I still run make from /source 15:40:40 in that folder should work fine 15:41:42 Is there not also a --debug for YACC? Is it not likely the culprit? 15:43:39 though you might want to hold off until I push this ... 15:45:01 03SamB02 07* 0.14-a0-248-g4835f49: YACC straight to levcomp.tab.cc so #line directives are valid (xFleury) 10(11 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 5-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=4835f497950f 15:45:01 03SamB02 07* 0.14-a0-249-g542cb84: Regenerate prebuilt parser 10(2 minutes ago, 2 files, 263+ 365-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=542cb84a6425 15:45:03 -!- Wah has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:47:31 xFleury: that will probably make things easier too 15:48:01 oh, and there does seem to be a --debug option for bison too, yes 15:49:55 pblain@ubuntu:~/Desktop/stone_soup-0.13.0/source/util$ make 15:49:56 make: Nothing to be done for `all'. 15:50:06 :| 15:50:27 oh, oops, needed "make clean" 15:53:34 yeah, it's kind of second nature to me that that kind of thing is needed when changing only the Makefile rules 15:53:57 or I probably would have mentioned it earlier 15:55:16 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/63152810/BadHarold.png This didn't turn out well. 15:57:59 kilobyte: honestly I have no clue why we weren't already using bison's -o flag 15:58:24 -!- Morg0th is now known as ScGAlchemist 15:58:44 -!- ScGAlchemist has quit [Client Quit] 15:59:47 So with --debug, I get "fprintf( stderr, "--(end of buffer or a NUL)\n" );" told to me. 16:00:42 xFleury: wasn't anything written to stderr before that? 16:03:46 -!- xFleury_ has joined ##crawl-dev 16:05:06 -!- xFleury has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:05:11 -!- xFleury_ is now known as xFleury 16:09:46 -!- xFleury_ has joined ##crawl-dev 16:09:50 -!- Pepe has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:10:40 just bunch of useless --accepting rule at line 301 (" 16:11:50 -!- xFleury has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 16:11:56 -!- xFleury_ is now known as xFleury 16:12:29 What does crawl use flex/bison for anyways? What would get lost if it were removed? 16:12:42 for parsing the .des files 16:12:50 That sounds important.. 16:12:56 yes, rather :-) 16:13:30 -!- poncheis has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:20:38 -!- nonethousand_ has joined ##crawl-dev 16:23:53 -!- nonethousand has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:24:39 -!- nonethousand_ is now known as nonethousand 16:25:37 nago (L14 GrMo) ERROR in 'libutil.cc' at line 1020: screen write out of bounds: (1,8) into (80,7) (Lair:4) 16:25:46 nago (L14 GrMo) ERROR in 'libutil.cc' at line 1020: screen write out of bounds: (1,8) into (80,7) (Lair:4) 16:25:47 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 16:25:59 nago (L14 GrMo) ERROR in 'libutil.cc' at line 1020: screen write out of bounds: (1,8) into (80,7) (Lair:4) 16:27:13 why would someone try to use such a tiny terminal to play crawl 16:31:17 -!- Venter has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:34:19 -!- Leafsnail has quit [Quit: IceChat - Keeping PC's cool since 2000] 16:35:15 -!- giantbat has quit [Quit: giantbat] 16:37:47 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 16:41:57 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 16:44:20 -!- alefury has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:44:20 -!- alefury|2 has joined ##crawl-dev 16:45:34 -!- rebthor has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:45:35 -!- Zermako has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:45:45 -!- rebthor_ is now known as rebthor 16:47:20 -!- SomeoneAwful has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:57:55 * xFleury is giving up on trying to fix the MSVC debug build. 16:58:18 Let's hope mumra figures it out. :S 17:00:22 -!- ladykiller69 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:02:03 -!- Gilihad has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:02:34 -!- eb has quit [] 17:03:41 -!- xnavy has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 17:03:56 * xFleury ponders why 0.13 is listed as (beta). 17:04:55 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.14-a0-250-g43d573f: Remove some runed doors from Lair vaults 10(30 minutes ago, 1 file, 4+ 4-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=43d573f4220e 17:04:55 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.14-a0-251-gfbb75a6: Identify the flame ego on Volcano loot 10(24 minutes ago, 1 file, 3+ 3-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=fbb75a6e533f 17:09:16 -!- Zermako2 has quit [] 17:12:28 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:13:04 -!- mikee_ has joined ##crawl-dev 17:16:35 -!- Yermak has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:16:50 -!- Stoicism has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:17:34 -!- duralumin has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:23:17 -!- Schwer-Muta has quit [] 17:26:28 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:30:06 -!- fooobarrr has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:31:10 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 17:33:51 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: No route to host] 17:34:09 -!- Bloax has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:35:28 hrm, I get levcomp.lpp:13:25: error: levcomp.tab.h: No such file or directory when compiling trunk on OS now 17:36:32 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 17:36:51 oh dear 17:37:44 -!- gammafunk has quit [Read error: No route to host] 17:41:55 -!- Xenobreeder has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:42:05 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 17:42:24 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 17:42:43 SamB: Gonna try a recompile, had to move to another machine anyways 17:47:03 I don't think I can have broken that? 17:50:38 yeah, still same error 17:50:55 this is a branch with a few changes (addition of new portal type) 17:51:15 But the failure is not likely related to my changes 17:51:55 hrm, there is a levcomp.tab.h 17:51:58 but it's in prebuilt 17:52:03 and there's levcomp.tab.hh 18:03:48 SamB: Oh, huh. Seems to be something I did. 18:04:09 Hrm, I added a branch entry to branch-data.h 18:04:16 maybe there's somewhere I need to add it somehow 18:04:56 make in source/util is making levcomp.tab.hh but not levcomp.tab.h 18:05:19 -!- Roarke has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:07:07 -!- Froggeryz has quit [] 18:07:35 -!- mestizia has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:07:49 -!- rebthor has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:17:12 -!- alefury|2 has quit [] 18:21:30 -!- omnirizon has quit [Ping timeout: 241 seconds] 18:23:19 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:24:37 -!- _dd has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:24:50 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 18:26:38 -!- PolkaDot has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 18:29:18 -!- st_ has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 18:32:28 -!- namu has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:34:49 !tell ontoclasm I hope you know what to do next: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/63152810/centaurguy3.png :p 18:34:50 Bloax: OK, I'll let ontoclasm know. 18:37:27 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 18:42:24 -!- xFleury_ has joined ##crawl-dev 18:42:31 gammafunk: odd 18:42:47 gammafunk: what version of bison? 18:43:05 SamB: I had done something odd with my merge of master, it seems 18:43:32 Plain trunk compiled, so just took my changes and reapplied them to an updated master 18:43:46 huh 18:43:48 well, we'll see if my branch works now 18:45:24 -!- xFleury has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 18:45:34 -!- xFleury_ is now known as xFleury 18:51:04 -!- Pepe has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:53:55 -!- Kalir has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:54:21 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 18:55:41 -!- Gotham has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:56:56 -!- Moanerette has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:57:59 -!- Stossel has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:02:58 -!- Tarquinn has joined ##crawl-dev 19:06:15 SamB: Ok, something is up. My branch doesn't compile, and after running make clean in util 19:06:25 Now my copy of trunk doesn't compile either 19:06:38 Version of bison is 2.6.2 19:07:33 SamB: Looks like levcomp.tab.hh is being created, but not levcomp.tab.h 19:07:36 -!- fooobarrr has joined ##crawl-dev 19:08:03 -!- DracheReborn has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:08:09 apparently polymoth zombies still spawn... 19:09:37 SamB: If I rename levcomp.tab.hh to levcomp.tab.h it compiles properly, and the crawl binary seems ok (loads maps, can start a game) 19:15:00 -!- ZebTM has quit [] 19:19:36 -!- heteroy_ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 19:21:34 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 19:21:49 -!- PunchRockgroin_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:22:08 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 19:31:18 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:35:57 -!- HellTiger has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 19:38:00 -!- mikee_ has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- IRC with a difference] 19:38:00 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:40:09 gammafunk: oh, actually it doesn't work here iether -- oops 19:41:39 -!- trckry has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 19:44:55 -!- Leafsnail has quit [Quit: For Sale: Parachute. Only used once, never opened, small stain.] 19:45:13 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:46:02 -!- scummos has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 19:46:09 SamB: Well, it seems that it's just making the wrong filename for some reason 19:46:14 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 19:48:30 * SamB remembers he was working on that ... 19:49:45 -!- gowby has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:50:27 gammafunk: I guess I ran into an undocumented feature (they documented this about .cpp/.hpp and .c++/.h++, I think ... but not .cc) 19:50:58 -!- Zermako has quit [Quit: I'm off to bed. See you tomorrow! :D] 19:54:36 -!- Flun has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:55:30 03SamB02 07* 0.14-a0-252-gf132092: Generate levcomp.tab.h, not .hh (gammafunk) 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=f13209215f93 19:55:30 03SamB02 07* 0.14-a0-253-g7c77362: Regenerate parser AGAIN 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 4+ 4-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=7c77362af56b 19:56:14 gammafunk: thanks for poking at this now rather than later 19:56:28 SamB: no prob 19:59:48 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:00:27 elliptic: why does DjEn show up near the bottom of http://dobrazupa.org/tournament/0.13/combo-scoreboard.html 20:01:08 uh 20:01:22 because someone managed to play a DjEn in 0.13.0 20:01:31 that's not good 20:02:15 yeah I realized right after asking that that was in the "played" portion of the display ... 20:02:17 !lg * 0.13 dj|lo|pr s=char 20:02:18 3 games for * (0.13 (dj || lo || pr)): DjAM, DjEn, LOFE 20:02:31 okay how did this happen 20:02:35 nobody chars about Pr 20:02:41 -!- CeleryMa_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:02:47 shall we ask kilobyte and |amethyst ? 20:03:09 !lg neil djam 20:03:10 24. neil the Vexing (L6 DjAM), mangled by Sigmund (a +0,+0 scythe) on D:4 on 2013-10-13 06:16:18, with 606 points after 3452 turns and 0:07:21. 20:03:10 someone might remember how this has broken in the past, yeah 20:03:14 !lg neil djam x=cv 20:03:15 24. [cv=0.13] neil the Vexing (L6 DjAM), mangled by Sigmund (a +0,+0 scythe) on D:4 on 2013-10-13 06:16:18, with 606 points after 3452 turns and 0:07:21. 20:03:22 !lg neil djam x=cv x=t 20:03:22 Unknown field: t 20:04:49 it's happened before that supposedly disabled species/classes have still been playable by random char or by specifying in rcfile or something (I forget) 20:05:18 currently compiling 0.13 locally to see whether I can reproduce 20:05:54 !lg * 0.13 dj|lo|pr s=char,name 20:05:55 3 games for * (0.13 (dj || lo || pr)): DjEn (dirge), LOFE (neil), DjAM (neil) 20:06:09 or we could just ask |amethyst how he did this... 20:06:44 hehe 20:06:53 |amethyst: ... that's cheating! 20:07:03 -!- jeanjacques has quit [Quit: quit] 20:08:03 elliptic: but yeah I've heard of rcfile before ... 20:10:41 hm, I haven't managed to reproduce yet 20:12:12 !lg * 0.13 dj|lo|pr -tv: 3. neil, XL6 LOFE, T:3168 requested for FooTV (telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org). 20:14:44 oh 20:14:52 I reproduced it 20:15:02 it is rcfile as expected 20:15:06 now how to fix... 20:15:15 <|amethyst> Two ways: 1. species = lo and randomly select a background 20:15:36 <|amethyst> 2. select a background that allows djinn, then randomly select the race 20:15:44 <|amethyst> 2. is less reliable of course :) 20:15:46 <|amethyst> Let me see 20:15:57 ah, I just tried randomly selecting the species first for 2 20:15:59 so are we going to somehow purge these games since two of them were |amethyst 20:16:12 SamB: the scripts can easily ignore them 20:16:23 yes that comes under "somehow" 20:16:33 you could specially shun them 20:16:37 however I'd rather see the bug fixed first so that there won't be more games like that :P 20:16:48 since yeah, if it is just three games then adding them to the blacklist is simplest 20:16:48 <|amethyst> 0.13 job_allowed should be changed to always return CC_BANNED for djinn and LO 20:17:25 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:17:33 <|amethyst> that might not be the only necessary change 20:18:32 <|amethyst> no time to fix it myself; I even forgot to report it, as you can see :) 20:19:50 !lg * 0.13 se 20:19:51 No games for * (0.13 se). 20:20:14 -!- fungee has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:20:22 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 20:20:27 |amethyst: maybe it shouldn't be necessary to change so many places to forbid a species 20:22:39 I guess maybe all the checks should just reference _is_species_valid_choice and is_job_valid_choice? 20:22:48 -!- medgno1 has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 20:23:25 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 20:26:44 -!- CeleryMan has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20:27:53 -!- tupper has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 20:28:16 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Saindo] 20:29:47 -!- GuraKKa has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20:33:39 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 20:37:29 <|amethyst> Probably; for removed jobs we have an assert 20:37:35 <|amethyst> %git 5f25d29f 20:37:36 07|amethyst02 * 0.13-a0-1576-g5f25d29: Assert if we randomly choose a removed job. 10(4 months ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=5f25d29f6a41 20:37:58 <|amethyst> That assert could be removed if we simply make it impossible to choose such a thing 20:41:45 -!- indspenceable has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:42:12 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 20:42:54 nobody likes Demigod do they 20:43:14 !lg . dg t 20:43:15 2. SamB the Caller (L4 DgSu), slain by a worm on D:4 on 2013-10-14 01:42:24, with 259 points after 4636 turns and 0:17:09. 20:43:23 !lg * dg t 20:43:23 124. SamB the Caller (L4 DgSu), slain by a worm on D:4 on 2013-10-14 01:42:24, with 259 points after 4636 turns and 0:17:09. 20:43:48 !lg * dg t x=background 20:43:49 Unknown field: background 20:43:52 !lg * dg t x=char 20:43:53 124. [char=DgSu] SamB the Caller (L4 DgSu), slain by a worm on D:4 on 2013-10-14 01:42:24, with 259 points after 4636 turns and 0:17:09. 20:43:56 !lg * dg t s=char 20:43:57 124 games for * (dg t): 23x DgSk, 12x DgNe, 11x DgTm, 10x DgFi, 8x DgWz, 8x DgCj, 8x DgIE, 5x DgFE, 5x DgWn, 5x DgMo, 4x DgSu, 4x DgVM, 3x DgEn, 3x DgWr, 3x DgAs, 3x DgHu, 3x DgAM, 2x DgAr, 2x DgGl, DgEE, DgAE 20:47:05 -!- indspenceable has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 20:53:54 this seems to happen every time a race or species is removed yeah 20:57:57 -!- ShadeTornado has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:58:26 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 20:59:01 Bloax: yeah, that's looking good 20:59:01 ontoclasm: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 20:59:05 !messages 20:59:06 (1/1) Bloax said (2h 24m 16s ago): I hope you know what to do next: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/63152810/centaurguy3.png :p 20:59:24 muscular 20:59:51 * SamB ponders the idea of UC unrands 21:00:29 make an unrand that lets you dust loop people 21:00:56 ? 21:01:25 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQsted6FjRo 21:01:50 ontoclasm: Pulling bows is pretty intense. 21:02:05 Especially at 'shitting arrows' rates. 21:02:49 -!- tupper has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 21:04:57 anyway it is 4 am here and I am not going to figure out a fix for the bad species stuff tonight... sometime tomorrow I'll look at it if nobody else does 21:05:14 until then please don't play more of them :P 21:05:53 hmm, I think quitrobin has been cheating too 21:06:05 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:06:16 some of these games have more than 20 points 21:06:34 <|amethyst> SamB: some classes start with more gold 21:06:34 SamB: that's because some backgrounds start with more than 20 gold 21:06:40 (FR: change this) 21:06:45 okay ... 21:07:22 that makes sniping the bottom of the combo scoreboard a bit trickier 21:11:48 ??badspecies 21:11:48 I don't have a page labeled badspecies in my learndb. 21:11:50 dang 21:13:31 -!- mineral has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:16:11 hmm, spiderform ought to have butchering 21:16:38 <|amethyst> SamB: I think it should have vampire-style corpse draining instead 21:16:49 |amethyst: that was my first thought. 21:17:24 hmm 21:17:32 <|amethyst> would need some adaptation to work on bloodless corpses (like insects) 21:17:38 |amethyst: it's bad if people have to end spiderform to eat 21:17:41 yeah 21:17:56 it could just butcher like everything else 21:18:07 -!- ackack has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:18:15 * SamB googles spider 21:18:24 it's also bad if people cast spider form just to eat better 21:18:25 instead of adding another unnecessarily complicated feature on top of the one it already has :/ 21:18:35 thus I suggest just letting it butcher, yeah 21:18:35 <|amethyst> true 21:19:07 i think forms are the only remaining case where there are any butchery special-cases? 21:19:29 everywhere else it's just "you can butcher" 21:19:54 In branch-data.h, what does the absolute depth of a branch refer to? 21:20:07 oh man the first sentence of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandible_%28arthropod%29 ... 21:20:25 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 21:20:51 anyway wikipedia says they can butcher, though it uses screwed up grammar to do it 21:21:00 <|amethyst> spiders don't have mandibles, though 21:21:26 <|amethyst> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chelicerae http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedipalps 21:21:32 Oh, I found it in the branch.h comments, never mind 21:21:45 oh darn diagrams ... 21:22:19 possibly making everything able to butcher would mean a ton of unnecessary code can be got rid of in food.cc, anyway 21:22:21 which would be cool 21:22:51 ...we get to butcher food.cc? 21:22:53 <_< 21:22:56 <|amethyst> regardless of spider anatomy, I agree with elliptic and MarvinPA that simplicity should prevail 21:23:46 I also agree. 21:23:48 MarvinPA: get to work :b 21:24:10 did we ever get rid of the stuff left over from not needing to swap? 21:24:17 I doubt it? 21:24:23