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already used (like ! to toggle mode) 14:20:11 is there any particular reason why experience was changed? 14:20:52 it seems weird and leads to things like nemelexites raising invo because they think it does something 14:24:51 -!- LexAckson_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:25:12 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 14:25:48 <|amethyst> elliptic: yeah, that might need some work 14:26:00 <|amethyst> elliptic: the comment on the mantis issue says "Potentially invocations and/or spell schools should still be restricted." 14:26:03 <|amethyst> #7171 14:26:09 <|amethyst> %bug 7171 14:26:09 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=7171 14:26:13 <|amethyst> %git 48b0c40 14:26:14 07Medar02 {|amethyst} * 0.13-a0-1481-g48b0c40: Allow potions/cards of exp train restricted skills 10(3 months ago, 3 files, 10+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=48b0c405dfe4 14:26:40 <|amethyst> The idea was to not require carrying around weapons to get magical experience 14:26:44 it sounds like the only argument given was some sort of realism thing 14:27:38 <|amethyst> arguable also consistency with ash reskilling 14:27:43 <|amethyst> s/ble/bly/ 14:27:59 <|amethyst> (wasn't given, but it was part of why I committed it) 14:29:41 I still think it might be better gameplay for these effects to require being able to train skills normally 14:30:33 -!- VolteccerJack has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 14:31:10 <|amethyst> hm, maybe 14:31:24 the main actual "gameplay" use for being able to raise other skills in this way is if you want a specific title, unless I'm missing something 14:31:51 since if you are raising a skill by a lot, generally you want to be able to raise it more naturally anyway 14:32:20 and the cost of having every skill listed is pretty high 14:32:22 <|amethyst> or getting the first spell in a school (particularly if you came across a book without a low-level spell) 14:32:35 <|amethyst> but brilliance can help with that too 14:33:13 I don't know, maybe it would be okay if someone had a decent interface that makes it easy to pick out the skills that are actually normally trainable 14:33:30 <|amethyst> elliptic: actually, now that I look at it, the ash interface is better 14:33:44 <|amethyst> because you have to press ! to select something that isn't already trainable 14:33:44 I forget what it looks like 14:34:06 <|amethyst> err, * rather 14:34:31 ah, that sounds fine (though I wonder if I ever realized that selecting something non-trainable was possible... that's the only issue with a toggle like that) 14:42:26 <|amethyst> hm... not sure *how* to make it work like reskill-to 14:44:51 -!- Voker57 has quit [] 14:45:28 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 14:47:24 -!- duralumin_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:49:05 -!- duckroller has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:50:43 <|amethyst> hm, my attempts don't work 100% because you can end up with something selected but 0% of the incoming XP devoted to it (until you select something else; then it updates) 14:51:24 <|amethyst> Someone who knows the skill menu better than I should probably look into it 14:52:23 <|amethyst> My not-completely-working patch is at http://s-z.org/neil/tmp/exp-hide-untrainable.diff 14:54:45 -!- soundlust has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 15:01:05 <|amethyst> I reopened #7171 and uploaded my patch there, if you'd like to comment 15:07:23 <|amethyst> !tell Naruni added a few comments on automagic (#7488) 15:07:25 |amethyst: OK, I'll let naruni know. 15:11:17 -!- Stelpa has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:18:52 -!- heteroy has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 15:22:38 -!- minqmay has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:25:49 -!- Raycaster has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 15:29:09 -!- Morg0th has quit [Quit: leaving] 15:34:15 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:35:00 -!- SamB has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:40:19 -!- dead_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 15:41:05 -!- bonghitz 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Use !messages to read it. 17:52:08 !messages 17:52:09 (1/1) |amethyst said (2h 44m 45s ago): added a few comments on automagic (#7488) 17:53:21 -!- greensnark has joined ##crawl-dev 17:55:17 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 17:55:58 -!- Textmode has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:56:48 -!- Textmode has joined ##crawl-dev 17:59:38 -!- anidude has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:02:59 -!- Pacra___ has joined ##crawl-dev 18:03:46 -!- magicpoints has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:06:38 -!- ParallaxScroll_ is now known as ParallaxScroll 18:16:11 -!- Zaba has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:16:35 -!- gammafunk has quit [Quit: gammafunk] 18:16:54 -!- Zaba has joined ##crawl-dev 18:18:50 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:19:44 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 18:22:51 -!- Lawman0 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:23:02 -!- Fhqwhgads__ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:23:43 -!- gammafunk_ has joined ##crawl-dev 18:23:55 -!- gammafunk has quit [Client Quit] 18:23:56 -!- gammafunk_ is now known as gammafunk 18:25:16 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 18:30:47 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:30:54 Arctirus the Impaler (L15 DsFi) ERROR in 'dbg-scan.cc' at line 624: ASSERT failed: shop->type of 4294967295 out of range 0 (0) .. 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Arctirus, XL15 DsFi, T:32800 (milestone): http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/Arctirus/crash-Arctirus-20130912-233053.txt 19:22:52 -!- Bloax has quit [Quit: Error: Bloax not found] 19:29:01 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 19:30:39 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:32:19 -!- SwissStopwatch has joined ##crawl-dev 19:35:36 -!- pelotron has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 19:37:25 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:37:27 -!- WeiSong has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:46:54 -!- jday_ has joined ##crawl-dev 19:50:41 -!- ZebTM has quit [] 19:52:53 -!- tatara has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:58:53 -!- myp has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:59:17 -!- hhkb has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20:00:21 -!- _sk_ has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20:01:42 -!- hhkb has joined ##crawl-dev 20:02:01 -!- Zermako has quit [] 20:02:36 -!- Flelmo has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:02:48 -!- dolch has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:15:25 -!- slifty has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 20:19:10 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20:26:34 -!- Tarquinn has joined ##crawl-dev 20:30:53 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 20:31:03 -!- scummos_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:35:43 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:37:11 -!- TeWzzzzzzz has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:38:38 -!- lavos has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.0] 20:39:31 -!- bh has joined ##crawl-dev 20:40:06 -!- Utis has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:44:04 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 20:49:03 -!- mikee_ has joined ##crawl-dev 20:52:32 -!- Soner has joined ##crawl-dev 21:00:00 -!- ParallaxScroll has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:07:19 -!- G-Flex has joined ##crawl-dev 21:08:43 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 21:09:16 !tell |amethyst Finalized the changes to automagic (#7488). 21:09:17 Naruni: OK, I'll let |amethyst know. 21:10:15 !tell elliptic I was able to implement the function for changing automagic spell slot in game (#7488). I think it is ready to be tested out now. 21:10:16 Naruni: OK, I'll let elliptic know. 21:11:51 * pi31415 will be glad to stop hacking crawl, it takes a long time to compile 21:15:32 -!- nicolae- has joined ##crawl-dev 21:18:02 -!- Pacra___ is now known as pacra 21:22:40 -!- oneof3steves has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 21:22:44 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 21:24:10 pi31415: if you have more than one processor/core you can specify more cores with -jN 21:32:57 -!- magistern has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 21:33:12 so, trample means that if they kill my guy they can still hit my HP in the same attack, right? 21:34:39 -!- ShadeTornado has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:35:03 bh, thanks for the tip, I will give that a shot 21:35:55 trample, is this another attempt at a Crawl-MTG crossover 21:36:18 five different colors of MP bars 21:37:12 pi31415: I recommend telling it to use one fewer core than you have (if you like to use your computer while compiling) 21:37:45 -!- enygmata has quit [Quit: zzzz] 21:42:49 that is where secret tech came from 21:43:09 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:50:11 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 21:50:52 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:50:54 -!- Quashie has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 21:51:46 -!- Transformer has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 21:52:38 -!- tkappleton has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:53:38 -!- JaGGedTK has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 21:56:34 -!- Fusha has quit [Quit: !] 21:57:28 SwissStopwatch: just a joke 21:59:58 -!- nicolae- has left ##crawl-dev 22:06:31 SwissStopwatch: but yes I've been learning a bit of MTG lately 22:10:11 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Client Quit] 22:11:04 -!- Lawman0 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:12:42 SamB: Have you tried Dominion? 22:13:05 don't think so, what's that? 22:13:58 It's a card/deck building game. http://riograndegames.com/Game/278-Dominion 22:14:24 A lot of people who like magic enjoy it. You build your deck during the game, rather than before. I think it's a much stronger game 22:14:46 -!- pelotr0n has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 22:14:52 from what I've heard it is sort of like draft games of magic 22:15:27 I've somehow never ended up playing it, but drafting is how I like Magic, so... 22:15:44 SwissStopwatch: sometime last year I did a sealed draft of Homelands 22:16:01 sealed draft does not compute 22:16:09 going to guess you mean passing boosters though 22:16:17 yep. 22:16:27 We bought a sealed booster box and drafted from it 22:16:30 when I change windowmanager-sdl.cc, for some reason it wants to rebuild everything, not just windowmanager-sdl.o 22:16:34 I imagine Homelands Draft is kind of terrifying 22:17:08 SamB: Homelands was the worst magic set ever produced. Imagine playing a Lava Orc Ice Elementalist of Xom 22:17:29 look, it still has to fight for that with Fallen Empires 22:18:05 <|amethyst> FE had good cards 22:18:09 <|amethyst> not many, but some 22:18:14 Goblin Grenade 22:18:18 <|amethyst> Homelands had... serrated arrow 22:18:18 Homelands had... um.... MErchant Scroll 22:18:19 <|amethyst> s 22:18:47 is it like XP Home 22:19:05 <|amethyst> Homelands is like ME 22:19:51 but yeah unlike the wild hit or miss card quality of a lot of other old sets homelands is mostly just bad 22:20:15 <|amethyst> I guess Autumn Willow was pretty innovative for the time 22:20:36 proto-Hexproof :( 22:21:16 actually I guess a couple of the other legends were potential control finishers maybe despite being completely terrible compared to "modern" creatures 22:21:18 <|amethyst> oh, Memory Lapse 22:21:20 <|amethyst> one good card 22:22:14 memory lapse seems like a bad countspell, apart from the costing 22:22:30 it still costs them the tempo and card 22:22:32 <|amethyst> bh: it's more like a bad time walk 22:22:53 the thing is that given how weak counterspells are these days I'm pretty sure it would be playable 22:22:57 occasionally 22:23:08 <|amethyst> people play Remand, right? 22:23:13 <|amethyst> it's essentially the same thing 22:23:32 well remand potentially letting you see an extra card is important 22:23:55 <|amethyst> SwissStopwatch: but remand doesn't make them miss a draw 22:23:55 for what it's supposed to do in modern, it's better than memory lapse 22:24:16 yes, but they often can't try to play the spell again anyway and often don't need more cards 22:24:38 <|amethyst> true 22:25:31 It's really an anti-combo card, as far as I understand it 22:25:39 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:25:57 Does anyone know dpeg's gitorious username? Is it dpeg? 22:26:23 ...looks like it 22:26:57 <|amethyst> at least according to +dcss-developers/memberships it is 22:27:31 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:28:42 -!- kait has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:31:02 -!- wheals has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:35:26 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:35:48 -!- Sorbius has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:36:43 -!- t4nk638 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:43:28 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:44:36 -!- Sorbius has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:48:37 i am attempting to get tiles to run with SDL2 on DirectFB, but SDL2 doesn't seem to want to use GLES on DirectFB. http://pastebin.ca/2449301 22:54:51 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 22:56:45 |amethyst: gammafunk wants all of the morgues on cszo and has suggested spidering them. This sounds like a very bad idea 22:57:06 <|amethyst> shouldn't be too bad 22:57:15 yeah, don't think it would be 22:57:28 spidering seems like a bad solution compared to say, rsync 22:58:27 <|amethyst> if you're trying to stay up-to-date regularly, rsync would be much better 22:58:52 <|amethyst> actually, what would be best... 22:59:18 |amethyst: he should mail you a harddrive and you should mail it back. It would probably be fastest 23:00:02 haha 23:00:20 I actually don't know how much they take in total 23:00:22 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:00:46 <|amethyst> about 11 GiB uncompressed 23:00:54 yeah, that's not terribad 23:01:06 <|amethyst> I'm packing up a tarball 23:01:19 oh, well thanks 23:01:50 todo: write a compression algorithm called feather. 23:01:55 ... so I can tar and feather things. 23:02:11 alias gzip to feather 23:02:24 That just isn't the same. :b 23:02:54 Grunt: groan 23:03:00 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:03:18 <|amethyst> Grunt: http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/T/tar-and-feather.html 23:03:43 make a tar clone called unftar 23:03:57 this archive is unftard 23:05:24 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 23:05:35 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 23:06:26 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:09:13 -!- Quashie has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 23:10:18 -!- odiv has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 23:10:27 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 23:10:30 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 23:11:46 Unlike your parents, however, you have hopes and dreams! 23:12:00 dominion, brought to you by the makers of the breakfast club 23:12:35 things to do: hold a dominion tournament while watching the breakfast club 23:16:07 -!- Vizer has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:17:10 -!- myrmidette1 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:17:32 bh: what's the point of using one _less_ core than you have? Using one more tends to give best results, although on some boxes exactly is better (depending on cache vs IO). 23:17:48 -!- SamB_ has joined ##crawl-dev 23:18:25 kilobyte: if I tell it to use too many cores my computer becomes unusable while compiling 23:18:44 by how many too many? 23:19:10 1 too many usually makes stuff sad 23:19:48 -!- eMagenta has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:20:37 -!- SamB has quit [Ping timeout: 261 seconds] 23:20:41 -!- Kalma has quit [Quit: *_*] 23:21:15 -!- Xenobreeder has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:21:30 on my current desktop (3 years old 6-core Phenom2) -j7 is about same as -j6 but -j6 affects doing stuff interactively less, as you say 23:22:06 on some intel 8-way dev server, -j9 wins by a decent margin 23:22:26 -!- myndzi has quit [Excess Flood] 23:25:19 the only thing you typically use during compile is a browser, and slices of CPU left unused by a -j6 build tend to be enough 23:25:52 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 23:25:54 I mean, even if all cores were really pegged, it's still 6/7 speed minus some cache thrashing 23:26:41 if this is a concern, it's enough to say "nice make" 23:26:54 -!- tatara has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:30:13 -!- mikee_ has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Organize your IRC] 23:30:16 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 23:30:35 -!- CKyle has quit [Client Quit] 23:31:35 -!- SamB_ is now known as SamB 23:32:44 -!- petete has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:36:53 -!- tatara has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:42:47 -!- petete has joined ##crawl-dev 23:53:14 -!- Naruni has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:53:18 -!- kait has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds]