00:05:45 Stable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.12.2-35-g1c9f977 (34) 00:15:07 -!- xnavy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:16:24 -!- Sgeo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:22:59 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 00:23:08 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 00:27:30 -!- petete has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 00:28:26 -!- Pepe has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 00:33:22 -!- agentgt has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.7] 00:33:28 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 00:34:51 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:46:32 -!- ebarrett has quit [] 00:56:40 -!- Pacra___ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:00:52 -!- Kalir has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:01:15 -!- gammafunk has quit [Read error: No route to host] 01:03:25 -!- Hailley has quit [Quit: Petra is closed!] 01:11:12 -!- crate has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 01:24:42 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:25:07 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 01:25:25 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:26:09 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 01:28:55 -!- Guest30728 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:35:01 -!- Ragdoll has joined ##crawl-dev 01:41:18 -!- minqmay has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:42:57 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:53:53 -!- Zifmia has quit [Quit: Wrong button bad with computers] 01:57:20 03bh02 07* 0.13-a0-3023-gd50ca8e: Add a temple layout 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 31+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=d50ca8e0b87d 01:59:55 -!- absolutego has joined ##crawl-dev 02:04:53 why does that have a runed door? 02:05:43 in nethack, Izchak spawns in that room 02:08:03 okay but he doesn't in crawl! runed doors should really just be used for actual runed door purposes 02:09:12 ok 02:09:16 I'll change it 02:09:57 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 02:10:17 cool, thanks 02:11:51 does no_rotate imply no_hmirror and no_vmirror? 02:14:00 i don't think so 02:14:59 03bh02 07* 0.13-a0-3024-g7710137: Cosmetic temple vault changes 10(41 seconds ago, 1 file, 6+ 3-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=7710137f8dd3 02:15:12 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 02:16:03 -!- flowsnake_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:16:48 -!- flowsnake has joined ##crawl-dev 02:18:19 -!- Danei has quit [Quit: Those who tell the truth shall die, those who tell the truth shall live forever.] 02:19:33 -!- marcmagus has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 02:24:23 -!- st_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:24:46 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 02:26:09 -!- bh has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:26:22 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 02:32:26 -!- mong has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:49:21 -!- ParallaxScroll has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:50:52 -!- Hailley has quit [Quit: Petra is closed!] 02:55:31 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:00:47 nice nethack temple 03:01:43 fr rename it to bazaar temple 03:04:17 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:05:34 -!- simmarine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:13:01 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 03:17:28 -!- Vizer_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 03:40:35 -!- alefury has joined ##crawl-dev 03:43:38 -!- Vizer has quit [Quit: bye] 03:49:43 -!- dtsund has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 03:55:41 -!- Xiberia has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:06:52 -!- ens has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 04:14:16 -!- buppy has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:15:14 |amethyst: you want to use rndc instead of restarting the whole bind. 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Use !messages to read them. 08:18:25 !messages 08:18:26 (1/2) Grunt said (1w 5d 12h 39m 15s ago): The sky? 08:18:26 !messages 08:18:27 (1/1) gammafunk said (2d 12h 34m 42s ago): It seems that many of the vault placement problems are comming from the forest layout placeing plants. Since these are monsters, it's blocking the vault placement a lot (using gammafunk_forest_enchanted_lake as an example) 08:20:16 !tell gammafunk hmm, removing the plants is easy, but maybe would be good to have a way to mark monsters as overwritable 08:20:17 mumra: OK, I'll let gammafunk know. 08:22:05 btw, do we have a release schedule yet? 08:26:42 -!- heteroy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:30:00 -!- SurpriseTRex has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:33:13 -!- heteroy has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 08:36:35 -!- nooodl has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:37:21 -!- kronusdark has quit [Client Quit] 08:42:17 -!- heteroy has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 08:51:34 -!- heteroy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:52:56 |amethyst: that's why you reload only a particular zone rather than everything 08:55:01 -!- Senri has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:55:03 -!- Hailley has quit [Quit: Petra is closed!] 08:56:21 <|amethyst> kilobyte: aha 08:56:30 <|amethyst> kilobyte: now I see what you mean, thanks 08:58:39 -!- dead_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 09:01:33 -!- heteroy has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 09:05:09 -!- Venter has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 09:06:40 -!- Rjs has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 09:10:37 -!- heteroy has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 09:19:01 -!- heteroy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:24:13 -!- heteroy has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 09:25:58 -!- scummos has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 09:25:58 -!- SkaryMonk2 has joined ##crawl-dev 09:26:02 -!- SkaryMonk1 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 09:27:55 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 09:31:01 -!- scummos^ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 09:34:10 -!- HellTiger has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 09:35:03 <|amethyst> mumra: I think a feature freeze now or soonish would be prudent 09:35:19 <|amethyst> so we can release this year, maybe even in October 09:36:41 -!- heteroy has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 09:49:44 |amethyst: sounds good. at this point i just want to get some layout and chimera stuff cleaned up anyway i think. could think about merging things from a couple of branches but there's a ton of new content this release anyway so probably best to wait til after the branch ... 09:50:02 especially considering the schedule i have had lately ;) 09:52:25 -!- lobf has quit [Client Quit] 10:01:29 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 10:05:49 -!- SkaryMonk2 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:07:02 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 10:07:35 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 10:09:38 03|amethyst02 07* 0.13-a0-3025-gd06b3ba: Don't let charmed monster open sealed doors. 10(11 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=d06b3baba119 10:09:38 03|amethyst02 07* 0.13-a0-3026-g0b360ab: Don't close opened doors when reverting a door seal. 10(10 minutes ago, 1 file, 4+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=0b360abc9b1a 10:09:44 -!- Morg0th has quit [Quit: leaving] 10:15:30 -!- heteroy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:19:07 -!- heteroy has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 10:24:42 -!- heteroy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:24:50 in macro.cc line 733 int getchm(int (*rgetch)()) however nowhere in the source does grep return rgetch 10:25:07 -!- crate has quit [Client Quit] 10:25:42 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 10:30:55 -!- VolteccerJack has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:31:05 -!- heteroy has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 10:34:21 -!- Mandevil has quit [Quit: leaving] 10:34:30 -!- Hayden2e has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:36:12 -!- Vandal is now known as Ganrao 10:37:32 Random thought: how would the Crawl devs feel about a long-form book about DC:SS being published with the writer's share of the profits being split evenly with the DC:SS server operators / website maintainers? 10:37:39 ebook 10:38:02 Naruni, huh? it's like 2 lines after 10:38:16 return getchm(KMC_DEFAULT, rgetch); 10:39:01 (which invokes the folliwing getchm, thanks to C++) 10:39:28 and that one passes rgetch to _getch_mul 10:40:11 which does: keys.push_back(a = rgetch()); 10:40:27 all in macro.cc 10:43:05 -!- tatara has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 10:47:42 -!- Burer has quit [Quit: Truly, the end of days.] 10:50:55 -!- heteroy has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 10:52:08 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 10:53:15 -!- wheals has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 10:56:30 -!- bmfx has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:17:26 -!- wheals has quit [Client Quit] 11:30:26 -!- Infinite_Monkeys has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:32:57 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 11:40:57 -!- alefury has joined ##crawl-dev 11:41:30 -!- SurpriseTRex has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:42:42 -!- Nakatomy has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:48:37 -!- Silurio has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:49:09 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 11:52:46 -!- nooodl has joined ##crawl-dev 11:53:25 -!- jbenedetto has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 11:53:43 -!- tatara has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 11:54:28 <|amethyst> Naruni: that's a function pointer 11:55:01 <|amethyst> Naruni: getchm takes as its argument a pointer to a function that takes no parameters and returns an integer 11:56:26 <|amethyst> Naruni: (and eventually, in _getch_mul, uses the function m_getch if the pointer passed was NULL) 11:57:34 <|amethyst> Ganrao: there is very little overlap between the devs and the server admins/operators 11:57:43 <|amethyst> Ganrao: I am the only person on both lists 11:57:48 ah 11:58:39 <|amethyst> Though I imagine, given their contributions over the years, we'd give rax and Napkin commit privileges in a heartbeat if they wanted them :) 11:59:25 I just got the idea from http://www.polygon.com/2013/8/21/4645686/press-select-launches-to-publish-long-form-games-criticism 11:59:59 though maybe an ebook that is only about DCSS would not sell as well as one about the history of roguelikes in general 12:03:36 -!- Thyme has joined ##crawl-dev 12:03:44 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 12:05:01 -!- petete has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:12:05 -!- kait has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:12:22 <|amethyst> I can't speak for the other server admins/owners, but I would feel weird accepting money 12:13:17 <|amethyst> as an academic, particularly weird accepting money from someone writing criticism of something I've worked on 12:13:20 <|amethyst> :) 12:14:45 -!- blackflare has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 12:33:09 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 12:34:37 -!- heteroy has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 12:36:32 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:40:25 -!- sdfg has quit [Client Quit] 12:43:09 I would not take money for similar reasons although if you wanted to wrtie a book about roguelikes I'd be interested in participating 12:45:37 a collection of critical essays on roguelikes would be _awesome_ 12:53:52 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 12:56:07 -!- tatara has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:00:45 That is how I feel :3 13:00:59 Press Select is not accepting submissions until 2014 though 13:01:25 Granted it could easily take that long to write a good book on the subject, even a small one 13:02:28 slam poetry about roguelikes 13:04:36 Are they looking for completed works or book proposals? 13:09:03 -!- Giomancer has joined ##crawl-dev 13:09:06 -!- Gotham has joined ##crawl-dev 13:09:33 -!- Giomancer has quit [Client Quit] 13:09:50 -!- Giomancer has joined ##crawl-dev 13:09:50 -!- Gotham has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:10:30 -!- Gotham has joined ##crawl-dev 13:12:00 @rax I have no idea, if you follow the links to their site it says they are not accepting submissions until 2014 because they already have a bunch of authors lined up 13:15:39 -!- wheals has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 13:18:05 -!- blabber has joined ##crawl-dev 13:21:06 -!- bmfx has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:23:18 -!- Extricated has joined ##crawl-dev 13:23:22 Could someone update the Debian repos with the 3008 build, please? My Windows OS is running 3008 and my Linux one is on 3004. 13:26:34 Uhh... elliptic Grunt Keskitalo kilobyte MarvinPA Medar mumra Napkin neunon SamB Zaba |amethyst 13:26:58 poking all of them is good way to annoy them :p 13:27:07 * geekosaur thinks pinging a unch of pwople like that is a recipe to get kickbanned 13:27:09 That's not very nice, Extricated. :( 13:27:34 Oops, sorry. Didn't realise it was frowned upon -- Just thought it would be a good way to get your attention. 13:27:51 oh, it "is". but it's not the kind of attention you want when youre asking a favor 13:27:57 Unfortunately I don't have access to the Debian repos, so I can't touch them, but hopefully someone can help. 13:28:07 do the devs even control them, that might be a public person? 13:28:18 maybe kb does 13:28:37 MOTD says that anyone with +v can, hence why I mentioned them 13:28:52 +v means commit access to the git repo 13:28:54 commit access is not the same thing 13:28:56 not necessarily package ownership 13:28:59 Ah, right. 13:29:01 what exactly is different between 3008 and 3004 that's so important to be updated? 13:29:20 Nothing much, it's just easier for save management if I want to quit and port my save to my other PC. 13:30:45 you might consider playing online, or checking out source at the right commit and building it yourself 13:30:47 You could probably build your own Debian package 13:31:15 do an apt-get source and then debuild it after you point it to a newer source archive 13:31:16 I play offline a lot of the time (i.e. When I'm out), but I'll try building it myself - Will it install to the same location? 13:31:35 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 13:31:38 do 'apt-get source' and you'll get the package source tree (including debian build glue) 13:33:39 -!- hart has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:35:04 -!- athros has quit [Quit: athros] 13:35:19 I need some source URLs, apparently. 13:39:25 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 13:46:01 Extricated: should just be a matter of copying the 'deb' lines to 'deb-src' in /etc/apt/sources.list 13:48:42 -!- Cryp71c has joined ##crawl-dev 13:56:47 -!- Xenobreeder has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 14:02:51 -!- tatara_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 14:07:45 -!- absolutego has quit [Quit: leaving] 14:17:38 -!- duckroller has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:18:31 -!- Extricated has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:20:58 -!- athros has quit [Quit: athros] 14:25:50 -!- Gotham_ has joined ##crawl-dev 14:26:16 -!- Gotham_ has quit [Client Quit] 14:26:52 -!- Gotham has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 14:29:24 -!- fooobarrr has quit [Quit: leaving] 14:29:35 -!- mumra has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:30:37 -!- Gotham has joined ##crawl-dev 14:43:27 -!- buppy has joined ##crawl-dev 14:45:00 -!- _D_ has quit [Quit: leaving] 15:00:55 -!- tatara has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 15:12:45 03galehar02 07* 0.13-a0-3027-gf5e63f4: Move quotes back to their own resource file. 10(8 hours ago, 50 files, 5353+ 5338-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=f5e63f43c551 15:15:11 Is it a known bug that runed doors can be mimics? 15:15:13 -!- sdfg has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 15:27:57 Runed door was a mimic by Bumlie 15:28:35 -!- ThumpSmash has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:31:19 -!- Zifmia has quit [] 15:32:12 -!- Ragdoll has quit [Quit: Houdou] 15:33:40 -!- Pepe has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:33:44 -!- Gotham_ has joined ##crawl-dev 15:36:00 -!- Gotham has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 15:37:34 -!- Morg0th has quit [Quit: leaving] 15:37:39 is there a way to get the size (fit_size?) of an item? 15:37:42 runed mimic 15:37:50 This mimic has warnings scrawled on it. 15:38:46 -!- Gotham has joined ##crawl-dev 15:40:50 -!- Gotham_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:42:36 -!- yalue has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:46:40 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:46:43 -!- petete has joined ##crawl-dev 15:51:55 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 15:52:50 -!- blabber has quit [Quit: leaving] 15:59:21 not to say that runed doors should be allowed to be mimics (they clearly shouldn't), but it's one of the few times that mimics actually do anything... 16:00:21 -!- G-Flex has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:02:05 -!- Burer has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:03:04 -!- tatara_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:03:57 -!- pythonsnake has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 16:06:55 -!- Stelpa has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:08:47 -!- Stelpa has quit [Client Quit] 16:16:52 -!- Twinge has joined ##crawl-dev 16:16:57 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 16:19:51 Bodrick (L14 CeFi) ASSERT(new_slime->alive()) in 'mon-abil.cc' at line 426 failed. (D:15) 16:20:50 -!- Nerem has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:26:32 -!- mumra has joined ##crawl-dev 16:27:47 -!- Aidenn has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:29:38 -!- yokelz has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 16:31:12 -!- enygmata_ has joined ##crawl-dev 16:33:30 -!- enygmata has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 16:33:47 -!- Soner has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:37:57 -!- LexAckson has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:42:57 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:42:58 -!- Aidenn has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:45:17 <|amethyst> : 16:45:29 -!- Stelpa has quit [Changing host] 16:46:32 -!- Aidenn has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:46:38 -!- Garhauk has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:48:17 -!- SaintWacko has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 16:48:26 -!- Aidenn has quit [Changing host] 16:55:09 You see here a leatherbound book {high-level}. 16:56:43 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 16:57:42 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 16:57:55 -!- Senri has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:58:21 -!- tatara has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:02:41 Kalma (L13 LOSk) ERROR in 'mon-act.cc' at line 2464: infinite handle_monsters() loop, mons[0 of 10] is Bladwarg (Lair:7) 17:09:14 -!- dpeg has joined ##crawl-dev 17:09:18 !messages 17:09:19 (1/2) |amethyst said (1d 19h 38m 35s ago): I made a branch nimble-hulk with a rough draft that's missing a few pieces (and is completely untested) 17:09:25 !messages 17:09:26 (1/1) |amethyst said (1d 19h 38m 6s ago): not sure if I'll have time to finish it anytime soon, but I did at least note what was missing :) 17:09:55 |amethyst: so cool! There was some more input yesterday, but I didn't have time to take notes. 17:09:56 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 17:12:17 -!- enygmata_ is now known as enygmata 17:12:45 nimble-hulk? 17:12:57 two proposed DS mutations 17:13:01 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:13:52 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 17:14:08 Orc ally infite speech by Kalma 17:15:35 Small/Large I suppose? 17:15:50 -!- nooodl has quit [Quit: Ik ga weg] 17:16:13 Bloax: yes, hulk is also supposed to replaced the strong but boring robustness DS mutation 17:18:50 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:27:15 don't you mean HULK REPLACE PUNY MUTATION 17:28:09 -!- oneof3steves has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 17:30:07 -!- rossi has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.1] 17:30:33 -!- enygmata_ has joined ##crawl-dev 17:30:51 -!- tatara has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:31:08 -!- enygmata has quit [Disconnected by services] 17:31:13 -!- enygmata_ is now known as enygmata 17:33:57 -!- duralumin has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:36:44 Is anybody interested in the YASD collection bh and I are about to write? 17:37:44 -!- NeremWorld has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:37:48 We need a couple more cool deaths, preferably midgame. I am also a fan of interesting speech lines. 17:38:07 any death with 'Xom thinks this is hilarious!' 17:38:14 http://bhickey.net/yasd.pdf 17:38:23 Zannick: links are appreciated =) 17:38:45 i never managed to find it... :( i think either i imagined it or it wasn't recorded in the log 17:38:56 And I am sure that among the hilarious Xom deaths, there are good and not so good ones. 17:39:32 The logs do have post-mortem lines, though. The Fedhas ecosystem message, or the Yredelemnul zombie one. 17:40:03 -!- Quashie has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 17:40:48 -!- maahes has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 17:42:17 the poker, page 16, line 4 should say "...the ghost". 17:42:43 -!- Aidenn has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:42:50 -!- Aidenn has quit [Changing host] 17:43:21 good catch! 17:44:28 a nice Xom death where several things happen at once... that would rock 17:45:08 I wonder if anyone has been struck by divine lightning. 17:45:14 And then consequently by a spore. 17:45:24 !lg * ckiller=spore 17:45:25 540. blackjack the Ruinous (L11 NaWz), worshipper of Cheibriados, killed by an exploding spore bolt of lightning on D:9 on 2012-09-10 20:00:48, with 7366 points after 9681 turns and 1:40:39. 17:45:37 !lg * ckiller=spore -tv 17:45:37 540. blackjack, XL11 NaWz, T:9681 requested for FooTV (telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org). 17:46:40 huh, this game has no "You die..." in the log 17:46:49 what is this guy doing 17:47:03 "You blink. Gastronok eats a troll corpse." <3 <3 <3 17:47:12 nom nom nom 17:47:19 what 17:47:35 where was the exploding spore? 17:47:40 where was anything 17:47:45 it just ended 17:47:49 aha, here's one where Xom laughs 17:47:49 !lg * ckiller=spore -tv:x0.3 17:47:50 540. blackjack, XL11 NaWz, T:9681 requested for FooTV (telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org). 17:47:53 !log . god=xom xl=8 17:47:54 1. jokeserver, XL8 FeCK, T:11560: http://crawl.develz.org/morgues/0.9/jokeserver/morgue-jokeserver-20110821-031336.txt 17:47:59 Urug throws a javelin. The javelin hits you! 17:47:59 You die... 17:48:00 Xom guffaws! 17:48:15 !lg * ckiller=spore -log 17:48:16 540. blackjack, XL11 NaWz, T:9681: http://crawl.develz.org/morgues/0.10/blackjack/morgue-blackjack-20120910-200048.txt 17:48:43 You are very lightly contaminated with residual magic. 17:48:43 A ball lightning comes into view. 17:48:59 that might explain it 17:49:04 ah 17:49:12 Gastronok is a cool dude :) 17:49:12 super duper poison cloud miscast 17:49:23 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:49:25 The daeva calls down the wrath of Xom upon you. Something smites you! You die... 17:49:33 doesn't sound any Xomly to me 17:49:54 kilobyte: agreed 17:50:13 The Dvaea calls down the wrath of XOM upon you! You convulse as you compress into nothingness! 17:50:18 praying to Xom for a guaranteed, consistent act? 17:50:24 Xom laughs maniacally! 17:50:39 huh, and this log has a tag surrounding a couple of lines 17:50:46 holy shit 17:50:48 that was stupid 17:51:03 especially with that scroll of blinking 17:51:13 and being a naga of chei and moving 17:51:14 Bloax: sure 17:51:40 But it's not very funny. :c 17:51:52 depends, I like it 17:52:05 It's an example of What Not To Do 17:52:07 !log . god=xom xl=8 -tv 17:52:08 7. dpeg, XL8 OgWr, T:14765: http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/dpeg/morgue-dpeg-20090622-232203.txt 17:52:30 !log jokeserver god=xom xl=8 -tv 17:52:31 1. jokeserver, XL8 FeCK, T:11560: http://crawl.develz.org/morgues/0.9/jokeserver/morgue-jokeserver-20110821-031336.txt 17:52:37 !lg jokeserver god=xom xl=8 -tv 17:52:38 1. jokeserver, XL8 FeCK, T:11560 requested for FooTV (telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org). 17:52:50 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 17:52:54 scroll of paper 17:52:55 malus 17:53:21 now it just needed a potion of water and it'd be a full blast from the past 17:54:15 function set_slot() 17:54:15 crawl.mpr("waiting...") 17:54:16 local key = crawl.getch() 17:54:16 crawl.mpr("you entered" .. string.char(key)) 17:54:16 end 17:54:32 why doesnt that print waiting until i press a key? 17:54:50 dpeg: oh, haha, i was on a trapdoor. even better. 17:54:53 that was pretty good 17:56:28 i found one of my deaths (xl 2, vs ijyb) where xom confused us both shortly beforehand, but it's not really *that* interesting 17:56:37 anyway, if you can think of interesting deaths for that book, Xom or not, be sure to !tell me 17:56:40 -!- mineral has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:56:55 I don't really recall any funny deaths that I've made. 17:57:00 dpeg: oh, also, on the acknowlegements page, you should be consistent with the oxford comma =p 17:57:05 Sigmund, Boris, and Nikola 17:57:29 And unfortunately I can't count the 5/2 hp/mp / surrounded by berserk wrath brothers survival. 17:57:42 i had a horrible one 17:57:50 Zannick: the Oxford comma is going to eat us all! 17:57:55 -!- Gotham has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:57:55 Because that one didn't splat. 17:57:57 !lg . ckiller=cloud 17:57:57 1. Naruni the Vexing (L2 SpEn), engulfed by a cloud of flame on D:1 (grunt_entry_hellfire) on 2013-02-11 07:17:55, with 70 points after 751 turns and 0:05:16. 17:58:02 that was it 17:58:07 watch the replay 17:58:24 !lg Naruni ckiller=cloud -tv 17:58:25 1. Naruni, XL2 SpEn, T:751 requested for FooTV (telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org). 17:58:37 dpeg the warrior, mangled by an oxford comma. 17:59:09 Zannick: :( 17:59:11 They invited the strippers, Stalin, and Hitler to the party. 17:59:28 That Oxford comma is a mimic! 17:59:36 Whoops! 17:59:55 Naruni: no sex in ##crawl-dev!!1! 18:00:01 erm, Bloax <--> Naruni 18:00:21 dpeg: nobody mentioned sex 18:00:29 !lg * ckiller=xom 18:00:30 278. Bikalo the Chopper (L3 DsCK), worshipper of Xom, killed by the capriciousness of Xom on D:2 (st_stairs_11) on 2013-08-27 20:20:25, with 170 points after 1074 turns and 0:03:32. 18:00:33 !lg * ckiller=xom -log 18:00:34 278. Bikalo, XL3 DsCK, T:1074: http://crawl.lantea.net/crawl/morgue/Bikalo/morgue-Bikalo-20130827-202025.txt 18:00:43 Just strippers and commas. 18:00:51 !lg * ckiller=xom s=xl 18:00:51 278 games for * (ckiller=xom): 107x 1, 82x 2, 59x 3, 21x 4, 8x 5, 6 18:00:56 !lg * ckiller=xom max=xl 18:00:57 278. xomscumming the Skirmisher (L6 MuCK), worshipper of Xom, the capriciousness of Xom on D:2 on 2011-08-27 10:50:59, with 586 points after 14390 turns and 0:06:54. 18:01:01 !lg * ckiller=xom max=xl -log 18:01:01 278. xomscumming, XL6 MuCK, T:14390: http://crawl.develz.org/morgues/0.9/xomscumming/morgue-xomscumming-20110827-105059.txt 18:01:05 And fortunately not stripping Stalin and Hitler. 18:01:13 well, if you need a pair of tits, my cat can bring you some 18:01:14 hallowed be thy comma 18:01:38 yeah man tits 18:01:40 History might have been better if these two would have been surrounded by competent strippers all days. 18:01:42 stealing from jday, but: 18:01:43 kitties love them 18:01:44 18:20 < jdaywork> dsc: Also, a monster ability to teleport into any cell the player can see works really well. 18:02:10 -!- pelotron has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:02:10 -!- nonethousand has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:02:30 ckiller=xom is a good time 18:02:38 Bloax: how do you even tell male from female birds? 18:02:55 http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/51942000/jpg/_51942231_04_blue_tit.jpg 18:03:02 i prefer not to 18:03:12 well, these are pretty much all the same death 18:03:44 but look at the bright side 18:03:58 At least I don't propose we rename Fighting to wrestling or something. 18:04:31 You are now a BORING thing. -- how apt 18:04:41 either way, good night folks 18:04:48 Xom is BORED 18:04:51 bie! 18:04:52 -!- Bloax has quit [Quit: Error: Bloax not found] 18:05:35 currently, Xom being BORED completely resets itself upon a single act, allowing scumming 18:05:59 -!- G-Flex has joined ##crawl-dev 18:09:33 ahaha 18:09:58 i know exactly what to search for, i just need to find a case where xom does it in the message history 18:11:04 namely, inner flame: 18:11:05 !lg tolias god=xom !boring !winning ikiller=xom kaux='exploding inner flame' max=xl 1 18:11:06 1. Tolias the Martial Artist (L12 TrCK), worshipper of Xom, blasted by a yak (exploding inner flame) (hexed by Xom) on Lair:5 on 2013-09-07 09:07:15, with 21358 points after 12658 turns and 0:44:37. 18:11:09 (eg) 18:11:48 Zannick: I am also happy when it happens earlier... then I copy message lines from the -tv replay. 18:12:21 sure. well, that's a good one, since it's a chain reaction of inner flames 18:12:41 aha, here's one 18:13:20 * kilobyte has seen some fun chain reactions during stress testing. 18:13:22 !lg provtheaverage drtm god=xom !boring !winning ikiller=xom kaux='exploding inner flame' -log 18:13:23 1. ProvTheAverage, XL10 DrTm, T:10383: http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/ProvTheAverage/morgue-ProvTheAverage-20130309-025733.txt 18:13:47 "I guess I need a new plaything now." 18:14:18 classic xom. 18:14:20 "oops" 18:14:29 when you get two groups of starcursed masses (one hostile, one charmed by Xom), a bunch of tentacles, and everything is inner flamed, it's surprising what a single monster_die() can do 18:14:55 kilobyte: ncie 18:14:55 ...can tentacle segments be inner flamed? 18:15:01 Zannick: cool death, I'll relay to bh 18:15:15 dpeg: :) 18:15:29 i'll try to get back to work, then >.> 18:15:39 good luck! same for me, btw 18:16:24 Zannick: not sure what was inner flamed what not, but the call looked impressive 18:17:04 heh 18:17:49 Zannick: it's a pity you can't easily grep through hundreds of megabytes of morgues; if you want I can run a query on CDO, or make a tarball 18:18:04 kilobyte: absolutely. I would love to grep for speech. 18:18:20 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:18:47 kilobyte: yeah, last time i wanted to grep over logs, i wrote a script to grab a handful of winning games for a small time period, then searched those locally 18:19:10 I am sure that a number of the YASDs we have can be replaced by better ones. 18:19:47 hammering CAO with wget takes several days, so I haven't done that in years. On CDO, it's a single tar... 18:20:08 and they compress wonderfully 18:20:49 kilobyte: how big? 18:20:49 there are games that have the message log translated, though 18:22:37 -!- Textmode has joined ##crawl-dev 18:23:43 -!- tatara has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:31:01 -!- Gotham has joined ##crawl-dev 18:31:17 -!- petete has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 18:34:30 -!- heteroy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:35:10 -!- Nakatomy has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:36:08 -!- Infinite_Monkeys has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:36:44 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 18:47:57 rl.heh.fi's apache lacks a charset setting for .txt files 18:49:21 I really don't get why apache doesn't just ship with "AddDefaultCharset UTF-8" out of the box, ancient charsets have long since gone the way of the dodo. 18:50:23 paging through the deaths book, I remember seeing a great one where Nikola blink-dodges an iood and then it hits the player, but looks like that kind of death is covered 18:50:38 kilobyte, I could only wish they had 18:50:39 only case they could happen is if you're doing hosting for some Windows stuff with the files copied directly, but in this case it's still CP1252 or CP1250 rather than ISO-8859-1 18:50:42 kilobyte: Could you create a CDO tarball with all logs on angband? 18:50:57 The most hilarious kind I can think of that I don't see represented is massive death curse backlash 18:51:08 directly copied windows stuff is far too common 18:51:31 SwissStopwatch: yes, there is awesome IOOD stuff out there. It is really hard to convey in the book format though: in the best one, the orb circles around for ages :) 18:51:50 that should be its own separate flipbook 18:51:54 haha 18:51:57 like someone firestorms a bunch of mummies in tomb and then gets killed from full HP by the resulting miscasts 18:52:04 the problem is that looks like a lot of messages for the book 18:52:06 * dpeg did this! 18:52:09 SwissStopwatch: :) 18:53:28 SwissStopwatch: works surprisingly well with TSO: you get damaged a lot, but get large heals together with curses 18:54:44 yeah, the TSO backup often allows one to be more aggressive in situations like that I guess 18:55:13 of course, Vehumet doesn't particularly help with death curses in any way... 18:57:06 of course now that I look some of the death curse deaths are TSO 18:57:15 so it's obviously not 100% foolproof 18:57:33 my such game happened in 0.4, when cleansing flame was for practical purposes Fire Storm 18:57:57 good old throwing cleansing flame 18:58:05 (Ice actually, needed line of action) 18:58:24 and now it's closer to holy shatter 18:58:49 shatter has LOS range if you're skilled enough, radius 2 sucks 19:00:15 * dpeg recalls how Darshan tweaked & buffed Cleansing Flame after a buggy Abyss death. 19:01:09 interesting that some folks don't even realize Shatter starts with a small radius: if you can cast it in the first place, you have at least LOS-2 range 19:02:14 getting powerful spells castable at low power is pretty hard, to be sure 19:03:02 hm, I imagine the book wants a good polymorph-related death in there 19:03:03 not on Xom's list 19:03:20 -!- maahes has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:03:25 SwissStopwatch: elliptic IIRC splatted in Zot:5 in tree form 19:03:41 You cannot move. 19:03:51 and either he or N78291 did as wisp 19:03:52 someone did to be sure, orbs of fire briefly getting polymorph other was "good" 19:04:11 SwissStopwatch: they ever did? 19:04:19 well it was buggy 19:04:29 like they weren't supposed to but it happened to someone 19:04:43 if I recall correctly, it was a Zot trap 19:05:27 -!- Thyme has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:05:34 yeah those can do that, I -think- what I'm remembering actually did happen though 19:06:34 I was also thinking of the sort where someone polymorphs a hydra or elephant slug, it turns into a storm dragon or somesuch, and they get fried in short order 19:06:45 <|amethyst> SwissStopwatch: the problem is that, if that did happen, then it probably hasn't been fixed or kilobyte would know about the fix :) 19:06:57 yes that occured to me 19:07:03 -!- tatara has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:07:11 somebody's memory is faulty, probably the smart gambler would say it's mine 19:08:05 -!- blackflare has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 19:08:12 i,i elliptic the TrEE, as a tree 19:09:31 SwissStopwatch: in either case having the game would be nice 19:10:17 yeah, probably easier to determine whether it's actually good after seeing it 19:10:57 -!- VolteccerJack has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:11:12 -!- VolteccerJack_ is now known as VolteccerJack 19:11:21 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 19:11:53 mm of course ??polymorph has exactly the sort of thing I mean, let 19:11:54 's see 19:12:09 !lg * killer=Grinder_the_hellephant -log 19:12:10 1. AStranger, XL5 DEWn, T:6734: http://crawl.develz.org/morgues/0.9/AStranger/morgue-AStranger-20110823-074153.txt 19:12:32 i have a hog form death in tomb 19:12:41 was actually my first online game to boot 19:13:30 !seen joosa 19:13:30 I last saw joosa at Wed Aug 14 16:42:57 2013 UTC (4w 7h 30m 33s ago) quitting with message 'Remote host closed the connection'. 19:14:12 sorry for asking stupid questions, but who's maintaining RHF these days? 19:14:24 Still joosa, AFAIK. 19:14:59 _Your broad axe of Juprym whistles innocently. 19:15:25 * SamB thinks that sounds a bit odd: is there *another* broad axe of Juprym somewhere? 19:16:08 I would not be surprised if the names are not guaranteed to be 100% unique 19:16:25 !tell joosa could you fix the encoding of .txt files served by rl.heh.fi? Or perhaps just add "AddDefaultCharset UTF-8" globally. 19:16:26 kilobyte: OK, I'll let joosa know. 19:16:40 if rupert kills you and takes it, it's his broad axe of juprym now 19:16:54 -!- Infinite_Monkeys has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:17:07 Zannick: if rupert kills you, the game is over and he can't take it 19:17:28 well if you drop it on the floor it's no longer your broad axe of Juprym 19:17:38 unless you're a felid, in which case you somehow get it off your corpse as you die ... 19:17:38 SamB: Xom can swap weapons 19:18:51 I'm working atm... make sure to !tell about cool deaths. Thanks! 19:19:09 corpse retrieval would be a lot of fun, but sadly, Abyss, portal vaults, getting trapped due to your gear being elsewhere, autopickup not picking up replacements, etc 19:19:19 kilobyte: done 19:19:25 joosa1: ... 19:19:27 heh 19:19:42 i should write an automatic recognizer for cool deaths 19:19:53 and hook it up to an irc bot named Xom 19:20:21 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 19:20:25 that sounds hard, since I bet there are some truly fantastic ones waiting to happen that just have not yet occured 19:20:41 and those are the ones that are -really- interesting, heh 19:21:06 so the deaths that have never happened before, that's fairly easy to test for :P 19:21:17 defining "interesting" might be AI-complete 19:21:20 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 19:21:24 hm yes maybe I should've thought that part out more 19:21:28 yes 19:22:00 maybe it'll just be some input measurements and genetic algorithms 19:22:16 and some hand-selected deaths to train it 19:22:57 yes, see if it correctly judges how interesting quicksilver dragon lava drownings are 19:23:59 (I assume those count as interesting, they're certainly pretty funny) 19:34:02 -!- dpeg has quit [Quit: sleep] 19:45:32 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 19:46:43 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:47:33 -!- pelotron has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 19:49:13 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 19:50:51 -!- Velocijacktor has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:51:44 -!- ebarrett has quit [] 19:51:50 -!- oberstein has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:53:13 -!- Pacra___ has joined ##crawl-dev 19:55:06 -!- oberstein has joined ##crawl-dev 19:56:43 -!- alefury has quit [] 19:59:36 -!- hurdos has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:00:38 -!- Soner has joined ##crawl-dev 20:02:38 -!- petete has joined ##crawl-dev 20:05:59 -!- petete has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:06:49 -!- heteroy has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20:07:23 -!- TangoBravo has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:07:36 -!- Zermako has quit [] 20:11:42 -!- UseBees has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:12:04 -!- ParallaxScroll has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:16:55 -!- mumra has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:17:25 -!- yxhuvud2 has quit [Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de] 20:20:45 -!- HellTiger has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:22:27 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 20:22:31 -!- kingbuddyboy has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:30:16 -!- Tarquinn has joined ##crawl-dev 20:34:01 -!- heteroy has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20:36:22 -!- Taraiph has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:39:37 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Saindo] 20:40:00 -!- oberstein has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:40:57 -!- enygmata has quit [Quit: leaving] 20:41:37 -!- oberstein has joined ##crawl-dev 20:46:30 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:46:56 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:47:26 -!- mikee_ has joined ##crawl-dev 20:51:33 -!- scummos^ has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20:53:53 -!- Gotham has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:05:17 I just spotted a completely inaccessible altar vault 21:05:21 or at least it certainly seems that way 21:05:44 (I only know about it due to magic mapping) 21:07:25 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:07:28 -!- bh has joined ##crawl-dev 21:08:37 -!- petete has joined ##crawl-dev 21:10:08 soooo what should I do about this 21:10:36 I backed up the save 21:10:44 it's here, assuming this is trunk: https://dobrazupa.org/saves/swinepaste-crawl-git-cb2faac032-130912-0210.tar.bz2 21:10:57 %dump swinepaste 21:10:57 http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/swinepaste/swinepaste.txt 21:10:58 and there's that 21:11:14 Oh? 21:11:16 Let's have a look. 21:11:29 also, that's not a stairway in the vault, it's a hatch 21:11:34 (perhaps this is relevant?) 21:11:53 That is lemuel_sealed_altar_b, which is apparently intentionally designed that way. 21:11:55 (the three down stairways are already identified on the map, so there can't be one there) 21:11:57 oh 21:11:58 No, it doesn't count as an overflow altar. 21:11:58 um 21:12:08 I have to question the wisdom of this vault design 21:12:16 1learn add lemuel 21:12:25 did it have a secret door or something and forgot to get deleted when secret doors were removed 21:12:34 !learn add lemuel I have to question the wisdom of this vault design 21:12:35 lemuel[5/5]: I have to question the wisdom of this vault design 21:12:46 <|amethyst> G-Flex: "sealed" implies no 21:12:54 fair enough 21:12:58 I just... don't get it, I guess? 21:13:03 you'd never ever notice it unless you did mapping 21:13:35 <|amethyst> or random teleport, digging, and a few other things 21:13:39 Normally it appears in open spaces or something, not in the middle of corridorland. 21:13:54 I'm not generally in the habit of digging random-ass places 21:13:58 Grunt: yeah, I suppose that would make it more obvious 21:14:39 what's even the point of that vault? 21:15:00 kilobyte: if you're really lucky you might find a redundant altar 21:15:01 �\(�_o)/� 21:15:12 Let me see if I can trace the origin of it. 21:15:21 s/ see if I can/ 21:15:31 (I've seen the relevant commit before; just need to dig it out again.) 21:17:03 %git 7ee9932 21:17:11 07greensnark02 * r7ee9932cc77c: Added new vaults (incl. Crypt, altars, entries). Contributed by Lemuel, bobbens, zaba. 10(6 years ago, 12 files, 953+ 151-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=7ee9932cc77c 21:18:29 (Also keep in mind that Lemuel has made a lot of vaults with inaccessability in mind, I guess.) 21:18:49 (That and these vaults probably stem from the era of divinations...) 21:20:06 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:20:17 -!- heteroy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:20:51 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 21:21:16 divinations, huh? 21:21:38 -!- Thyme has joined ##crawl-dev 21:21:53 %git 79c3d7c 21:21:54 07kilobyte02 * 0.6.0-a1-615-g79c3d7c: Remove the Divinations school. 10(3 years, 10 months ago, 17 files, 127+ 279-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=79c3d7c39771 21:23:20 -!- heteroy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:27:59 -!- Fusha has quit [Quit: !] 21:28:30 oh 21:28:35 actually that makes sense then 21:28:40 I can understand the vault more with divinations in place 21:28:47 !learn delete lemuel[$] 21:28:48 lemuel has 5 entries, you can only delete one at a time. 21:28:52 !learn delete lemuel[5] 21:28:53 Deleted lemuel[5/5]: I have to question the wisdom of this vault design 21:28:55 I take this back 21:29:08 not that you had Magic Mapping early on 21:29:24 !learn add lemuel I can understand the vault more with divinations in place 21:29:25 lemuel[5/5]: I can understand the vault more with divinations in place 21:29:30 haha 21:29:31 that works 21:29:38 and later, this vault was just a schmuck bait, so you waste means of digging 21:30:41 -!- heteroy has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 21:30:52 -!- mikee_ has quit [Quit: I love my HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <-] 21:31:10 -!- capablanca has joined ##crawl-dev 21:31:15 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:31:27 -!- capablanca is now known as mikee_ 21:32:25 -!- mikee_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:33:10 -!- mikee_ has joined ##crawl-dev 21:35:23 -!- ShadeTornado has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:36:33 -!- Xenobreeder has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 21:38:20 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:38:28 -!- Fhqwhgads__ is now known as Fhqwhgads_ 21:41:45 -!- lobf has quit [Client Quit] 21:42:29 -!- mikee_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:43:14 -!- mikee_ has joined ##crawl-dev 21:44:29 |amethyst: v2 of automagic is done. im thinking about proofreading the code one more time, and adding comments to things i think are not obviously understandable. would you mind looking it over before i post it to mantis? 21:45:47 Debian builds of the trunk branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.13-a0-3027-gf5e63f4 21:46:30 -!- kait has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 21:51:56 -!- heteroy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:53:39 <|amethyst> Naruni: I will have more time to look over it tomorrow; go ahead and put it on mantis 21:54:34 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 21:57:53 -!- heteroy has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 22:01:37 -!- tkappleton has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:02:59 -!- tatara has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 22:06:43 -!- petete has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:07:00 -!- petete_ has joined ##crawl-dev 22:08:48 -!- Velocijacktor has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:09:06 -!- mikee_ has quit [Quit: Try HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <-] 22:24:45 -!- WeiSong has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:27:30 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:31:12 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:31:52 -!- heteroy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:32:38 -!- st_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:35:29 -!- tatara_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 22:36:23 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:38:07 -!- heteroy has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 22:42:14 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:43:59 -!- heteroy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:45:24 -!- Mandevil has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:46:41 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 22:50:01 -!- heteroy has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 22:54:22 -!- heteroy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:58:39 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 22:58:47 -!- Insomniak` has joined ##crawl-dev 22:58:59 hello 22:59:39 -!- heteroy has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 23:00:33 i'm having trouble compiling crawl in netbsd 23:01:11 Insomniak`, do you have a build log to paste? 23:01:36 yeah, just trying again to replicate it, then i'll post it to pastebin 23:01:57 something to do with gen-mi-enum 23:02:00 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 23:02:30