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Exploit a bug? Avoid a nerf? 07:05:22 -!- DrPraetor|2 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 07:13:28 -!- Nakatomy has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 07:20:54 -!- SkaryMonk1 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 07:22:10 -!- SkaryMonk has joined ##crawl-dev 07:27:36 galehar: to make sure the assumptions you built your character on stay true for the rest of the game 07:28:14 galehar: lets say you trained stabbing, and then it gets removed 07:28:15 alefury: if that's important for you, play stable, not trunk 07:28:29 some people want the best of both worlds 07:28:48 i see how forcing upgrades would make figuring out crash reports easier, but there arent a lot of other advantages 07:29:26 well, reasons for not forcing are sparse too 07:30:15 -!- PsyMar has quit [Quit: I, Garland, will knock you all down!] 07:30:45 could make it a default option 07:31:10 default is forced, people who care can turn updating back to asking confirmation 07:31:15 if thats possible 07:32:26 i can understand the desire to stay current but also have a stable environment for every single game. for example if i was a player who can win streaks, i wouldnt want stuff to interfere with my streaks 07:32:56 and stable generally sucks balls, because most changes are good and trunk has lots of changes 07:33:07 +1 to forcing upgrade; if someone is investing enough in a character that these assumptions matter, they should be playing stable or local 07:33:55 one more reason for not forcing is that sometimes stuff is really broken for a day or so 07:34:36 -!- Wester has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 07:34:36 -!- WesterAlt is now known as Wester 07:35:09 again, if that's unacceptable for you, don't play trunk 07:35:53 you can't have the best of both worlds. 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That hasn't been my experience. 10:41:39 ??amulet of guardian spirit 10:41:39 guardian spirit[1/1]: While wearing this amulet, damage you take is divided proportionally between MP and HP. Reduces magic to 0 on wearing. Note that a Deep Dwarf wearing this does not regain MP naturally. Other races that mutate slow healing 3 still do, however. 10:42:11 I think the deep dwarf nerf for AoGS is silly, especially given everything else that is good for DD which you might choose to nerf. 10:44:12 -!- IHDPA has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:45:53 -!- ryansee has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:49:09 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 10:50:00 DrPraetor: damage you take is divided proportionally between MP and HP 10:50:19 So have it apply before damage shaving or something. 10:50:27 whatever that means in detail, it certainly means that no, damage is not going to be reduced to 0 10:50:39 also, if you have damage shaving, guardian spirit is not for you 10:51:19 Yes, I see that - I'm saying that it's needlessly constrictive. DD are already railroaded in a dozen ways, just fudge GS over so that it's competitive with other intrinsics. 10:55:31 -!- Xiberia has joined ##crawl-dev 10:57:36 mumra: could you wrap your commit messages? 11:06:24 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:06:45 DrPraetor: the point is that dd don't regenerate, ever 11:07:07 and a working gc would mean they regenerated a little 11:09:49 -!- alefury has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Iceape 2.0.11/20121208085021]] 11:10:20 -!- absolutego has quit [Quit: leaving] 11:10:40 -!- DrPraetor has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:11:19 alefury: doh, i keep forgetting. at first i assumed git would automatically do that but i noticed it wasn't. i'm using a gui instead of command line for commits but it doesn't give an indication of line lengths :( 11:13:32 -!- keszocze has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:15:16 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 11:17:21 -!- ZRN has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 11:20:06 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 11:26:32 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 11:40:15 -!- jeanjacques has joined ##crawl-dev 11:47:39 -!- bmfx has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:54:06 03MarvinPA 07* 0.13-a0-429-g1cb82f7: Comment fix 10(9 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=1cb82f756777 11:54:08 -!- Pthing has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 11:56:21 -!- ZRN has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 11:59:35 -!- santiago_ has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 12:03:13 -!- Ursa2 has quit [] 12:07:25 -!- nooodl has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 12:09:48 -!- bmfx has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:15:42 -!- crate has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:15:49 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:16:53 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.13-a0-429-g1cb82f7 (34) 12:19:57 -!- remyroy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:22:05 -!- bmfx has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:22:31 -!- MarvinPA_ has joined ##crawl-dev 12:24:18 -!- nooodl has joined ##crawl-dev 12:24:44 -!- SkaryMonk has joined ##crawl-dev 12:25:58 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 12:25:58 -!- MarvinPA_ is now known as MarvinPA 12:27:16 -!- dcssrubot955 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:27:33 -!- santiago has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 12:33:15 -!- floatboth has quit [Quit: floatboth] 12:33:32 -!- Kalir has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:41:11 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 12:41:53 -!- bmfx has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:41:56 -!- nooodl is now known as `echo 12:42:19 -!- `echo is now known as nooodl 12:44:44 -!- nooodl is now known as `nooodl 12:46:30 -!- crate has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:47:42 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 12:52:44 -!- `nooodl is now known as nooodl 12:55:45 -!- ZRN has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 12:56:46 -!- crate_ is now known as crate 12:58:22 mumra: I thought "git gui" had a nice big red line for that ... 12:58:36 SamB: i'm using tortoisegit in windows and in doesn't ... 12:59:07 so use git gui? 12:59:25 mumra, or just use msysgit, git commit -a works well. 12:59:42 what does -a do ? 12:59:53 SamB: i didn't know git gui was a thing until literally just now :P 12:59:58 ah 13:00:01 SamB, all files 13:00:09 all "tracked" 13:00:14 files, I should say. 13:00:24 i'm used to tortoise guis with svn and hg so i just defaulted to that when i found there was one 13:00:42 I really would recommend paying a bit more attention to things than -a would seem to imply 13:00:47 -!- bmfx has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 13:01:12 -!- s951 has quit [Client Quit] 13:03:55 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 13:05:21 -!- blabber has joined ##crawl-dev 13:05:44 -!- cjo_dcss has joined ##crawl-dev 13:08:46 -!- s951 has quit [Client Quit] 13:09:28 SamB, its dumbed down, gives you a list of files and a list of exluded files and stuff...very easy for anyone changing a few files, committing, rinse repeat. 13:09:56 03mumra 07* 0.13-a0-430-gc665ca8: Restore layout_caves iterations but veto on tiny levels 10(12 minutes ago, 2 files, 7+ 11-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=c665ca8bc65f 13:10:24 Cryp71c: oh, you mean when it gives you the editor for the commit message? I guess that's true... 13:15:47 well i don't have a problem with complexity, i just need to change habits ... or write a commit hook that wraps lines for me ;) 13:15:51 -!- ZRN has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:17:05 lol...get off the gui! 13:18:18 * SamB wishes GDB would allow pretty-printers to be associated with typedef'd type names, like iflags_t ... 13:22:47 -!- ShadeTornado has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:26:36 !tell Cryp71c Hi Cryptic, you might already know but in case not, I wanted to mention that I submitted an updated patch for mana shield (under a different mantis ticket 'cause I didn't know any better), and MarvinPA made a couple of additional changes & pushed it. 13:26:36 cjo_dcss: OK, I'll let cryp71c know. 13:35:29 -!- cjo_dcss has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90 [Firefox 20.0.1/20130409194949]] 13:40:49 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 13:45:04 MarvinPA, was that pushed to trunk? 13:45:04 Cryp71c: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 13:45:09 !messages 13:45:10 (1/1) cjo_dcss said (18m 34s ago): Hi Cryptic, you might already know but in case not, I wanted to mention that I submitted an updated patch for mana shield (under a different mantis ticket 'cause I didn't know any better), and MarvinPA made a couple of additional changes & pushed it. 13:45:20 -!- bmfx has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:47:10 -!- Wehk has joined ##crawl-dev 13:48:15 %git :/Mana shield 13:48:27 Could not find commit :/Mana shield (git returned 128) 13:48:28 %git :/Mana Shield 13:48:28 03cjo * 0.13-a0-424-g7778caa: Mana Shield demonspawn mutation. 10(24 hours ago, 5 files, 67+ 6-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=7778caa9ee09 13:50:51 -!- scummos_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:53:28 -!- alefury has joined ##crawl-dev 13:56:43 anyone know a good way to check if a number is a power of two in Python (or using simple math)? 13:58:23 -!- gowby has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:58:44 -!- BrocoLee has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:00:56 SamB: (x != 0) && ((x & (x - 1)) == 0) 14:01:40 SamB: see top answer here - http://stackoverflow.com/questions/600293/how-to-check-if-a-number-is-a-power-of-2 14:04:03 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 14:04:29 -!- VolteccerJack has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:05:36 -!- Serfuzz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:06:14 -!- Bradley_ has quit [Client Quit] 14:08:24 -!- blabber has quit [Quit: leaving] 14:09:42 -!- crate has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 14:10:20 -!- scummos has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:12:07 -!- kingbuddyboy has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:15:40 Abjuration cast by non-spellcasting enemy by Roshnak 14:23:28 -!- tJener has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:26:14 -!- santiago_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 14:27:17 -!- st_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:27:40 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 14:32:36 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 14:40:34 -!- tJener has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:40:34 -!- tenofswords has joined ##crawl-dev 14:40:37 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 14:41:59 mumra, an idea: with all of the new layouts for D, wy not use this as an opportunity to distinguish earlier and later D by making the more open/disorderly/whatever layouts be later D and the more orderly be early D, or whatever 14:42:24 can just move around weights for differing chunks of D or something 14:43:42 -!- santiago_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 14:44:04 -!- ToastyP has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90 [Firefox 20.0.1/20130409194949]] 14:47:10 tenofswords: well i've been slightly doing this with the weights already, but yeah i haven't had an overall plan and it could be interesting to look closer at that and do something more coordinated 14:47:32 sure sure 14:47:35 there's also the idea of making layouts generate slightly differently depending on how deep they are 14:48:29 -!- madreisz has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:48:44 potentially weird to scale but I guess it'd depend on layout to layout 14:49:32 yeah 14:49:53 i was considering for orc/slime making the bubbles tend towards bigger sizes as you head towards $ 14:50:04 still randomised of course so it's not at all predictable 14:51:41 you had an idea to distinguish orc and slime layouts, right 14:52:01 not a concrete idea 14:52:17 i think slime should have its own generator though, right now it's identical to orc 14:52:17 * tenofswords shrugs 14:52:46 it does feel distinct with slime walls and stuff 14:53:08 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 14:53:34 exactly, it does at least have a unique feature so it gets away with it 14:53:54 clearly need to give orc gold walls 14:55:38 -!- Namey has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:55:47 cue players digging out all the walls on the whole level to try and mine gold 14:57:37 -!- GuraKKa has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 14:58:00 tenofswords: did i answer your other question about the delay_offset thing 14:58:57 I've been trying to quickly fix up the original proof-of-concept vault and then I got annoyed with how the principles that make for a good ambush bubble don't work for the durations needed to make the spinning mean something specific so I am busy remaking vaults 15:00:03 not sure i follow, is this to do with how the offset adds on an extra initial delay? 15:01:12 no this is about how my vaults clearly suck 15:01:47 ok 15:01:48 -!- Nakat0my has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:01:55 I'll have stuff ready for committing by the end of the week or something, I am just biting off more then I can chew 15:02:34 basically there's no point pushing the feature until there are vaults that actually use it, and there is also an issue that i want to test a lot of existing cloud-generator vaults to make sure the change hasn't somehow broken them 15:03:19 but my time has been massively limited due to work stress for a couple of weeks so i've struggled to look at anything involved 15:04:00 one of many patches for me to do was to examine all currently used fog_machine vaults, what would I be looking for if I was checking for delay_offset bugs too 15:04:02 -!- tJener has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:04:28 it's a case of "does the vault still work like it did before delay_offset existed" 15:04:45 eurgh 15:05:17 -!- _D_ has quit [Quit: leaving] 15:05:33 -!- Thalfon has quit [Disconnected by services] 15:05:36 -!- Thalfon_ is now known as Thalfon 15:05:51 it shouldn't have changed anything but the fog machine code is a bit strange and i had to modify the bit where it initially assigns a number to the countdown 15:06:04 so i'm not 100% confident that this hasn't affected anything else 15:06:45 -!- jeanjacques has quit [Quit: quit] 15:07:08 -!- IHDPA has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:07:08 -!- syraine has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:07:17 on the other hand there are existing fog machines that could maybe be improved with cautious use of delay_offset 15:07:33 -!- kingbuddyboy has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:07:33 -!- Datul has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:08:23 -!- Ryansee has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:09:53 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:10:40 lemuel_ice_spiral_2, perhaps 15:10:59 -!- crate has quit [Client Quit] 15:12:08 there were both a volcano and an ice cave i was in recently with large areas of cloud spawning 15:12:27 where using delay_offset to sweep the clouds along a bit would be more fun 15:13:01 and slightly less deadly because you could see the cloud approaching and take action, instead of just being suddenly and unexpectedly in the middle of a huge field of death 15:13:22 -!- Wehk has quit [Quit: Forlater kanalen] 15:13:46 yes, lack of real visual warning for cloud generators was the main thrust of aforementioned patch 15:16:15 some kind of warning, even just printing a message, is possible 15:16:18 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 15:17:59 -!- blackcustard has joined ##crawl-dev 15:18:29 -!- N78291 has quit [Quit: null] 15:19:56 -!- CKyle has quit [Client Quit] 15:20:19 -!- rossi has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.0] 15:21:18 -!- Duralumin has quit [Quit: Ухожу я от вас (xchat 2.4.5 или старше)] 15:34:49 -!- winedarksea has quit [Client Quit] 15:38:05 -!- crate has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:40:01 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 15:40:44 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:41:37 -!- edlothiol has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 15:45:02 -!- Arivia has quit [Quit: rivs is afk (probably sleeping)] 15:45:47 -!- Snarwin has quit [Quit: leaving] 15:46:43 -!- gowby has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:48:48 -!- BadHygiene has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:49:12 -!- Shadowmage952 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:50:21 -!- Chozo has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 15:50:52 FR: 'i' on acquirement shows inventory, not gold. 15:50:53 -!- kingbuddyboy has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:53:44 inventory acquirement, an interesting idea 15:55:27 -!- omniguy has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:55:44 It's in mantiss, though for some reason, the severity got changed from tweak to text. 15:55:51 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=6951 15:55:52 -!- Thalfon has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:56:34 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 15:56:46 FR: 'i' on acquirement shows inventory, not give gold by Havvy 15:58:14 remap all of the letters in acquirement because we're throwing out this abcdefghi thing 16:01:01 That could work too. 16:01:10 ... 16:01:30 -!- spriseris has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90 [Firefox 20.0.1/20130409194949]] 16:01:45 [a]rmor, [j]ewelry, [w]eapon, [f]ood, [g]old, [i]nventory, [s]taff, [m]iscellaneous, ect. 16:02:48 Havvy: FR's shouldn't really go on mantis anymore (unless they come with a patch) ... but you can post on tavern/wiki/here to see if people support the idea and maybe someone will code the patch or it gets made into an implementable ticket (which only admin can do) 16:03:19 it sounds like a reasonable feature to me but i don't know how trivial to code it is 16:03:47 -!- Whales has quit [Quit: homeward bound] 16:03:50 would rather just let # work on said interface instead of wondering how to describe [a]rmour and [a]mmo 16:04:06 [w]and and [w]eapon 16:04:09 #? 16:04:13 dump 16:04:37 (clear solution is to rename wands) 16:05:25 even dump doesn't cover everything; Ctrl-F would be useful in acquirement as well 16:06:33 clear solution is to allow escaping from the prompt 16:07:01 -!- DrPraetor has joined ##crawl-dev 16:07:26 id all scrolls on pickup 16:07:34 solves about 50 issues 16:07:40 id everything on pickup 16:07:43 solves all the issues 16:07:51 true 16:07:56 Oh, a scroll of acquirement. Let me escape and hold onto it 16:08:13 I still think books should ID on reaching the stack 16:08:15 Kind of defeats the point of the id game. 16:08:26 there are some jokes being used here 16:09:01 SamB: That would be helpful. If you are in a situtation where the turn to pick up the book matters, you shouldn't be going to the book anyways. 16:09:37 Havvy: I was thinking more like when you've run out of letters for your inventory 16:09:54 Oh. That doesn't happen for me. 16:10:29 and if you can memorize from a book without holding it, surely you can see what's in it too! 16:10:39 it only tends to happen in e.g. Elf:$ or zigs 16:11:58 V:$ 16:13:56 that too 16:15:03 -!- sbanwart__ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 16:16:28 -!- SkaryMonk has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 16:16:37 -!- SkaryMonk has joined ##crawl-dev 16:17:05 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 16:18:17 From changelog.txt: * Zin's vitalisation protects against paralysing attacks. 16:18:35 Is that only melee attacks? Could be clarified I guess. 16:19:27 probably doesn't even need to be in changelog.txt if we're looking to make it less bloated 16:19:43 but yeah it's just wasp attacks since those are resisted by rpois normally 16:19:57 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 16:19:58 what, zin doesn't protect against stabbing needles, outrageous 16:20:12 Ok, yeah then it should probably just not be in there. 16:26:13 -!- tenofswords has left ##crawl-dev 16:28:11 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 16:28:23 -!- mnoqy has joined ##crawl-dev 16:32:57 -!- gowby has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:33:42 -!- Svendre has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 16:35:39 -!- t4nk807 is now known as omniguy 16:35:47 -!- Zifmia has quit [] 16:37:14 -!- Blazinghand_ has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 16:37:48 -!- freefall has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 16:41:36 -!- ZChris13 has joined ##crawl-dev 16:42:03 -!- keszocze has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 16:43:03 -!- DrPraetor has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:43:04 -!- mumra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:43:51 -!- mumra has joined ##crawl-dev 16:52:24 -!- st_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:52:50 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 16:53:08 -!- ldf has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:53:48 -!- Raycaster has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:57:59 -!- Vidiny has quit [Quit: [19:23] don't they have refill machines in ikea [19:24] bet those muricans took their vases to those straight away after paying] 17:01:05 -!- ZRN has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 17:01:51 -!- dtsund has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 17:02:29 Pacifying or enslaving a vault warden won't release sealed doors by Medar 17:08:07 03SamB 07* 0.13-a0-431-g898c4da: Add pretty-printing of flags field for item_def. 10(2 hours ago, 1 file, 55+ 1-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=898c4da0e230 17:08:07 03SamB 07* 0.13-a0-432-g89b9bc2: Print special field of item_def using appropriate enum types. 10(10 minutes ago, 1 file, 17+ 1-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=89b9bc2af86a 17:08:41 -!- ryansee_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:13:33 -!- ZRN has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 17:16:12 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:24:23 -!- Stendarr has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 17:24:34 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 17:25:42 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 17:25:47 -!- dtsund has quit [Client Quit] 17:26:05 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 17:28:49 -!- Nightbeer has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:31:29 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 17:36:28 -!- DrPraetor has joined ##crawl-dev 17:41:31 -!- Sprort has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:46:01 -!- Nakat0my has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:46:42 -!- Sprort has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 17:52:24 -!- Yen_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 17:52:50 -!- Blazinghand_ has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 17:53:19 -!- sbanwart__ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:53:40 -!- s951 has joined ##crawl-dev 17:54:25 -!- ahpla has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:55:13 How does shouting commands to allies work? 17:55:58 hmm? 17:55:59 (Also pertinent, do Fedhas wandering mushrooms actually listen to commands you shout?) 17:56:15 good question 17:56:54 It's not really relevant in the situation I just found, but just thought I'd ask 17:57:42 galehar: can you ban that troll on the tavern? 17:57:45 -!- scummos^ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 17:57:52 the first topic was good, but now hes getting annoying 17:59:11 puff the magic draconian 17:59:29 s951: it's yell(bool) in effects.cc 17:59:59 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 18:00:18 -!- alefury has quit [] 18:00:22 starting around line 1009 right now 18:00:53 SamB: The pertinent bit http://pastebin.com/ukuiSR5V 18:00:56 I stepped onto a fungus 18:01:04 only way back is blocked by a wandering mushroom 18:01:11 i can't order it away because i can't see any other tiles 18:01:44 would it be able to follow your orders while you were still in LoS? 18:01:48 (Also, if I set language = dwarven, translating my notes is a nice touch. Bravo to the dev who did that.) 18:02:08 I can only see two tiles 18:02:10 the tile I'm on 18:02:12 the tile it's on 18:02:21 -!- DracoOmega has joined ##crawl-dev 18:02:23 ordering it to retreat does nothing 18:02:37 because behind it is nothing but wall 18:03:14 and i can't see round the v-shaped corner to order it to retreat that way 18:03:25 Does telling it to wander do nothing? 18:03:45 nope 18:03:50 (this may be because I have 3 more outside of los) 18:04:01 And they are standing still and blocking it from moving, I guess 18:04:10 Since your orders won't be given to them unless you can see them 18:04:18 this has been a problem with fedhas for forever 18:04:29 Probably the one next to you is listening just fine, but it can't DO anything since it can't move 18:04:30 I've not heard of it being quite so bad though 18:04:39 Yes, this is a remarkably bad example 18:04:48 Normally it's just a minor nuissnace 18:06:35 But yes, this isn't really an issue with orders so much as Fedhas and walking on plants 18:07:48 arguably it is displacing allies that is the problem 18:08:25 Well, it doesn't happen except when you are on a plant, since the ally can't swap with you there 18:09:08 it can happen over water 18:09:19 which could potentially drown you 18:09:35 Oh, hmmmm... I suppose that's true. I guess it's just a lot less common to run into there 18:09:40 Since usually there is more room 18:09:41 -!- Ur-Quan has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:10:29 Since I have run into the Fedhas issue a couple times (without real consequence though), but never the water one. Despite playing games with a water in them a lot more than games where I am with Fedhas 18:11:33 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 18:12:36 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 18:13:53 -!- DrPraetor has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:14:05 -!- rossi has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.0] 18:14:38 On another note, I think we should set an actual release target for 0.12. I mean, we'd originally implied the end of this month would be the latest cutoff date and that's only a week now 18:15:26 I have a couple little things to fix, but I don't think there's much else major (unless something else needs to be done with that OS X !exp bug? I'm not really sure) 18:15:31 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 18:15:55 Well, I guess assuming it's okay that Meatsprint doesn't have a unique tile set (but it would seem a shame to delay 0.12 too long on account of that, unless one would be rapidly forthcoming) 18:16:09 for fedhas, I think the best would be to allow allies to step through plants too 18:16:13 yeah, it would be nice to fix a time for release (and for tourney) 18:16:18 but that might be hard to implement 18:16:41 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 18:16:57 walk through allied plants too? ;) 18:17:17 Who normally handles preparation of release binaries and all that jazz, anyway? Was that kilobyte? 18:17:22 i think this 0.12 needs someone to step forward as a release manager 18:17:27 well, I guess you can walk through plants and oklobs, just not wandering mushrooms 18:17:28 who are the active devs? :) 18:17:45 !seen kilobyte 18:17:46 I last saw kilobyte at Wed Apr 17 16:59:35 2013 UTC (6d 6h 18m 10s ago) saying 'MarvinPA: no mouths? http://www.theprincessplanet.com/2011/07/17/rock-ness-mess-part-6/' on ##crawl-dev. 18:18:17 DracoOmega: maybe someone else should handle 0.12 this time 18:19:26 Well, some of its a bit outside my expertise, anyway. Or at least I have no way to compile anything for a platform other than my own at present. 18:21:19 I do really think that it would be good to aim for no later than May 1st, if this is at all possible, though 18:21:32 -!- Spectrina has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 18:21:34 release.txt is a lot more complete than it was last time i looked, at least 18:23:46 yes, it's pretty well documented 18:23:51 i'm not sure if there's any major stuff blocking 0.12 currently... that mac potion of exp crash, maybe? 18:24:07 isn't it a compiler issue? 18:24:11 Well, there's the recall orbrun crash too, but I can fix that shortly 18:24:13 And yes, it is 18:24:17 (Or seems to be, anyway) 18:24:27 ah okay, i lost track of it after the issue had like 10 notes :P 18:24:38 So for the moment, wouldn't it just be fixed by making the release binary use a working compiler here? 18:24:49 MarvinPA: I had a quick look at it earlier 18:24:59 DracoOmega: I think so 18:25:16 I mean, kilobyte said something about this not supporting older versions of OS X, but I'm not 100% sure what he meant there 18:25:26 Was that just in terms of people compiling it for themselves? 18:25:30 -!- s951 has left ##crawl-dev 18:25:49 -!- mnoqy has quit [Quit: hello] 18:25:52 maybe 18:26:00 don't know much about macs 18:26:07 anyway 18:26:09 * galehar sleeps 18:26:15 Nor I (especially in these terms) 18:26:22 On a related note, about that orbrun recall crash... 18:26:31 Is there actually a need of the ASSERT(!env.orb_pos.origin()); here? 18:26:50 possibly that compiling a binary to work on older versions is extremely difficult 18:26:56 Since obviously bad things don't automatically happen without it, since Step From Time works fine once it circumvents this 18:27:03 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 18:27:04 much easier to find somone with an older version and have them build one specific to that version 18:27:31 At first, I was going to add an argument to mute messages from enchantment expiry, but I noticed I need to go several levels deep in some functions for this 18:27:45 Which I still could, I guess, but it does make me wonder 18:27:57 as oppoed to trying to make a single binary that runs on all versions (although with some limitations a build for an older version will run on newer versions, you may lose some functionality; see for example Lion+-style full screen) 18:28:26 a slightly promising comment on that ticket is "Why don't you guys build binaries for distribution with an updated gcc from Fink / MacPorts / Homebrew or something? I've been using Fink's gcc for a long time and I've never had a problem with it. It's pretty straightforward to set up too." 18:29:28 geekosaur: releasing multiple binaries for different OSX versions is kind of a nightmare in its own right, i think 18:29:32 ... have they tried using a binary built that way on a system without those installed? 18:29:32 and people wonder why mac builds are always late :P 18:29:36 mumra, yep 18:29:42 it's a freaking nightmare 18:30:17 macports has a utility that will try to pull stuff into a self-contained app bundle. emphasis on *try* 18:31:11 Speaking of 0.12, there are couple of really simple bug fix patches of mine on Mantis 18:31:37 and even so, it's worth noting that macports tries hard to stick to apple compilers to build stuff, because it causes fewer problems ultimately than relying on its own (although some things do require that, it complicates e.g. universal libraries/binaries) 18:33:30 geekosaur: it sounds like you know a lot about this, are you volunteering? :P 18:33:48 -!- nooodl has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 18:34:58 heh. I know a fair amount due to using and helping out with macports, but not sure how much I can actualy help out with this. in particular my main machine is 10.8 and making it build a universal binary that works on 10.5+ is ... not really possible :/ best to find someone with SL still installed 18:35:09 (== 10.6) 18:36:11 i think this is the problem, there's nobody around who has all of the hardware, knowledge _and_ time to sort it all out 18:36:22 Medar: oh nice you used the patch tag <3 18:36:36 yeah, went back and added it to everything :pb 18:36:42 i don't know anything about webtiles stuff but i'll have a look through the rest 18:36:51 because stupid mantis wouldn't show me "stuff I commented on" 18:37:03 thanks 18:37:09 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 18:37:29 -!- omniguy has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:37:37 yeah, patches attached to bug reports are one of the things that get lost easily i think 18:37:52 wonder if there's a better way of tracking them 18:37:53 Would it offend someone's sense of code clenliness terribly if I just took that assert out and simply did not calculate the orb glow halo if you're at 0,0? 18:38:02 Instead of crashing 18:38:10 (Maybe there's a good reason for it that I don't see?) 18:39:12 apple makes this a lot harder than it should be :/ 18:43:43 is there a good reason why the player is ever at 0,0? 18:44:17 Well, it happens in at least two places that I know of 18:44:28 Which two places? 18:44:32 During Step From Time (which caused the first crash by this assert, which is now special-cased to ignore this) 18:45:26 And when recalling monsters from off-level (so that some effects will expire non-visibly, since they conceptually expired a long time ago, even though time hasn't actually 'passed' as far as the monster is concerned) 18:45:30 (This one crashes currently) 18:46:19 If you are on the orbrun, I mean 18:48:15 MarvinPA: promote elliott to Head Of Patches 18:48:28 all patches will be tracked & constantly mentioned 18:48:35 what is the assert supposed to prevent? does it specifically check for orb @ 0,0, or just at map border? 18:48:55 Or at 0,0, yes 18:48:56 Orb* 18:49:01 st_: hah, as if elliott cares about any patches other than elliottpatches! :P 18:49:15 I am not really sure there is anything valid it guards against in a useful way 18:49:54 Since it would be fine with the orb at (-1,-2320) I guess! 18:50:07 can you put the player at -1,-1 instead of 0,0? 18:50:41 Hmmm... I could try that, but I wonder if something ELSE would protest at that point. But I can check after this other stuff I'm doing 18:50:56 (But still, that's just further evidence the assert doesn't seem to be helpful, isn't it? :P) 18:52:16 given that the orb can end up inside other walls that *aren't* at the map border (there was that mantis report a few weeks back) 18:52:18 Also MAN but it's annoying that my IDE keeps messing up rebases partway through and forcing me to abort and redo them -.- 18:52:27 and given that really it's incorrect for *any* item to be at the map border 18:52:39 it does seem like a strange assert 18:52:59 Well, this isn't looking at the location of the orb item 18:53:32 It's an actual env.orb_pos variable 18:53:56 And it's just for the code that draws the orb halo around you 18:54:38 -!- gowby has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:55:42 <|amethyst> DracoOmega: would there be situations where orb_pos is (0,0) but your pos is not? 18:56:16 I can't say for certain that this couldn't happen code-wise, but you can't actually drop the orb anymore 18:56:17 the orb halo shouldn't be drawn at all if the orb is at a different position to the player 18:56:20 So it seems stuck with you 18:56:30 -!- Pedjt has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 18:56:51 Maybe this is a leftover from when you COULD drop the orb after picking it up? 18:56:53 Hi; what are we arguing about? 18:56:54 it sounds to me like the halo just shouldn't be drawn if the player is at 0,0 since it's valid for the player to be there 18:56:55 <_< 18:57:06 <|amethyst> maybe the condition on the if should be !you.pos().origin() and the assert can still be there to catch that "can't happen" 18:57:31 Yeah, that probably makes sense 18:57:33 <|amethyst> Grunt: orb halo crashes 18:57:47 I've only seen those under HOPrs who are recalling, IIRC. 18:58:00 Is it starting to happen in other circumstances? 18:58:00 Well, it would affect Yred, too. But yes, I do know why it is happening 18:58:15 It's just that the assert triggering it seems to not really be doing useful things here 18:58:29 Except making the game crash :P 18:58:31 1learn add badassert 18:58:54 on the other hand ... should it be even trying to draw anything while all this is going on? 18:59:20 Monsters don't follow down stairs after petrification by Carabas 18:59:30 -!- dtsund has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 18:59:42 It isn't drawing anything 18:59:48 It's just updating the grid of stuff that will later be drawn 18:59:56 (But you end up back at your original position before that even happens) 19:00:33 This is done at the time that all halos are calculated, and some of these might have gameplay relevance and not just display ones, keep in mind 19:00:48 -!- ckyle has joined ##crawl-dev 19:01:23 -!- Poncheis has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:01:29 best fix -- prevent interlevel recall during orb run due to the orb warping spacetime :P 19:01:37 Haha 19:01:43 Nah, what amethyst says seems fine to me 19:01:50 Make it also recall some panlords 19:01:54 I will double-check it once I can wrangle my IDE to stop messing up my rebasing T.T 19:02:03 Clearly rebase your IDE <_< 19:02:08 Yeah, it does sound fine 19:02:46 Well, I am almost certain what it is doing is getting a handle on a file that it senses has been updated at the same time git also tries to change that file again. And it can't because it no longer has permissions 19:02:50 And then everything needs to be aborted 19:03:08 I think there's a setting to make it not automatically refresh changed files, but I'm having a hard time finding it :P 19:06:25 -!- Weeksy has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:09:43 -!- HellTiger has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 19:12:31 -!- ckyle has quit [Quit: ckyle] 19:12:58 -!- Poncheis has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 19:14:30 Potion of Agility cause slow affect by Puff the magic Draconian 19:15:04 DracoOmega: what is this "IDE" thing 19:16:11 I Don't Even 19:16:38 -!- pelotron has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 19:16:48 ??ide 19:16:48 I don't have a page labeled ide in my learndb. 19:17:24 iDE 19:17:28 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 19:17:31 the apple deep elf 19:22:08 Grunt: hah, you beat me to it 19:22:22 MarvinPA: I'm just good at digging out things in ttyrecs :) 19:22:23 was just about to tv it to confirm my suspicion that it was something like that 19:22:38 fr: badmantistv 19:22:50 (fr: goodmantistv) 19:23:11 -!- Weeksy has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:24:40 -!- Ur-Quan has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:24:44 Why does it say "It was a potion of agility." twice on that screenshot? 19:24:53 Thought that was only on identify 19:25:07 Probably just a refresh hiccup. 19:25:36 gah, more message bugs? 19:25:55 I don't think there's a bug here. 19:26:42 What's a refresh hiccup? 19:26:47 if not a bug? 19:27:29 -!- Poncheis has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90 [Firefox 20.0.1/20130409194949]] 19:29:11 -!- mumra has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:29:39 another frozen game, again after picking up a scroll by geekosaur 19:30:00 geekosaur: why you keep freezing games 19:30:07 fiik 19:30:17 ??fiik 19:30:18 I don't have a page labeled fiik in my learndb. 19:30:20 -!- SteampunkDuck has quit [Client Quit] 19:30:27 fwiw I just loaded it up in tiles and it seems to work... 19:30:32 'f***ed if I know' 19:30:58 geekosaur: I'm playing your game locally just fine, for the record. 19:31:15 huh, so loaded in tiles, moved once, saved, reloade din console and it's fine 19:31:21 *mystified* 19:31:21 o_O 19:31:24 -!- yogaFLAME has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:31:56 tiles conspiracy? 19:32:11 -!- ckyle has joined ##crawl-dev 19:32:55 -!- tormos has quit [Client Quit] 19:33:37 -!- doome has quit [] 19:34:56 * geekosaur wonders if he's managing to trigger an obscure bug in iTerm 19:35:02 -!- confused is now known as nubcakes 19:38:54 -!- Utis has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:45:00 -!- nubcakes has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:46:50 -!- Cryp71c_ has joined ##crawl-dev 19:46:50 -!- Cryp71c has quit [Disconnected by services] 19:46:58 -!- Cryp71c_ is now known as Cryp71c 19:47:14 -!- Cryp71c_ has joined ##crawl-dev 19:49:51 03Medar 07* 0.13-a0-433-gdaab79c: Confirm self targeting with Dispel Undead 10(3 weeks ago, 1 file, 2+ 1-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=daab79c291b0 19:49:51 03Medar 07* 0.13-a0-434-g848cc07: Don't let blood potions rot in shops 10(12 days ago, 2 files, 7+ 0-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=848cc07e59d3 19:50:11 master is now several commits ahead of my branch, is it "git rebase" which will take my branch and (without changing master) bring it so that all of the branch's commits are "ahead" of master? 19:50:25 Yes 19:51:59 -!- Yllodra has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 19:54:21 SamB, hehehe 19:54:56 A couple tweaks for layout_dis by infiniplex 19:55:07 -!- ckyle has quit [Quit: ckyle] 19:59:30 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 20:00:03 -!- tensorpudding has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 20:00:04 -!- Zermako has quit [] 20:00:15 -!- tensorpuddin is now known as tensorpudding 20:02:48 -!- Sorbius has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:06:25 -!- ckyle has joined ##crawl-dev 20:11:23 -!- tensorpudding has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:11:24 -!- tensorpuddin is now known as tensorpudding 20:12:47 -!- eith has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20:13:45 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 20:16:07 Current abyss seems like its a guaranteed death sentence for players who get banished before, say, xl 15 or os. 20:16:59 !lm . abyss.enter -4 20:17:00 That's not necessarily true, even though it's highly dangerous, sure 20:17:00 40/43. [2013-04-22 04:48:55] SGrunt the Unseen (L15 HaAs) is cast into the Abyss! (ogre mage) (Orc:4) 20:17:15 ...first of four abyssings in that game. I managed to survive, somehow. 20:17:16 But 'current' in this sense might imply that this is new, and it isn't 20:17:26 have the new abyss monsters been given normal spawn rates yet 20:17:39 Their current spawn rate seems normal enough 20:18:01 i mean, as in, have they been changed from the way they were when they went in 20:18:10 Actually, last I checked, low level survival rates in 0.12 abyss were slightly BETTER than in 0.11 20:18:11 -!- santiago_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:18:22 -!- mumra has joined ##crawl-dev 20:18:31 damn. game just froze again. and I think it is iTerm... froze *immediately* after printing scroll name 20:18:45 Found a scroll labeled XUOGRO SHOZ 20:18:55 (note leading space; it's expecting to continue...) 20:19:17 ontoclasm: Well, they were adjusted UP since their initial addition, but most have not been adjusted down since 20:19:22 If I recall right 20:19:29 -!- magistern has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 20:19:54 i don't think they particularly need adjusting down, yeah 20:19:54 MarvinPA: You have 3 messages. Use !messages to read them. 20:20:12 could probably just remove the "this is a testing weight" comment 20:20:16 Oh, is that still in there? 20:20:19 i believe so 20:20:22 -!- Chozo has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:20:24 -!- ckyle has quit [Quit: ckyle] 20:21:07 didn't even get the whole scroll name out, in fact 20:21:08 oh or maybe not since the monpick merge 20:21:14 No, it seems to still be there 20:21:18 ah yeah found it 20:22:09 mmm, or not. picked up scroll, game froze at the same point outputting the scroll name 20:22:16 weeeeeeird 20:23:43 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 20:23:46 -!- omniguy has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:25:05 Sometimes I have to ponder the net benefit of squashing my patches so thoroughly, since I almost always manage to find a way to mess something subtle up with all the history rewritting 20:25:50 oh hell. suddenly I think I know what is going on (and if so, it is a bug not having anything to do with crawl) 20:25:57 I'd recommend not squashing them except when fixing, say, typos ... 20:26:16 Well, the commits are really messy and invovle stuff that was changed one way and then back again before being done 20:26:44 So mostly I try to sweep all the rambling into something cohesive and organized 20:27:31 As I have done with all my major changesets 20:28:10 message to hangedman^ 20:28:37 -!- santiago has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20:29:19 Haha. Well, generally his patches don't add, remove, add, remove, then add the same thing again :P 20:30:05 (Okay, really it's more about rewriting things heavily. There doesn't seem a need to preserve old and obsolete versions of non-live features in code I'm pushing) 20:30:18 -!- kek has quit [Quit: Kicked by KickServ] 20:30:42 ok, 99% chance it's a bug in the perl script that does autologin foo... either misreading of Expect::set_seq() or *that* does not behave to its spec 20:31:31 -!- Fear has quit [Client Quit] 20:35:21 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 20:36:40 geekosaur: so it's on your end somehow? 20:37:00 looks like it, yes, although I need to do more testing to verify and to pin down exactly where 20:37:04 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 20:37:17 already commented the ticket 20:41:11 -!- Fear has quit [Client Quit] 20:42:48 -!- ShadeTornado has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:53:33 If I wanted to rebase master, I would need to switch over to the master branch, update it, then switch back and do the rebase while on my branch. 20:53:45 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 20:53:47 Is there a way reduce this into a single query (such as rebasing with a flag?) 20:55:23 what, && isn't good enough for you? 20:58:36 -!- Fear has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:58:43 SamB, &&? 20:58:50 oh..nvm. 20:58:54 chaining the commands 20:58:59 yeah, you can even do that in cmd.exe! 20:59:26 gah, I really want to be able to seal spells with this hand facet, but it sounded like the implementation was going to be ugly. 21:00:37 03Cryp71c 07[ds_trade_offs] * 0.13-a0-435-gcd5f249: Give monstrous DS a scale mutation 10(6 days ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=cd5f249830e6 21:00:37 03Cryp71c 07[ds_trade_offs] * 0.13-a0-436-gd3168e4: Remove dprf accidentally left in 10(6 days ago, 1 file, 0+ 1-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=d3168e4aa0e1 21:00:37 03Cryp71c 07[ds_trade_offs] * 0.13-a0-437-gde56254: Differentiate Iridescent and Rough Black scales 10(6 days ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=de56254bcde0 21:00:37 03Cryp71c 07[ds_trade_offs] * 0.13-a0-438-g73c58b8: New DS mutation: Runed Hands 10(5 days ago, 4 files, 31+ 6-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=73c58b84b289 21:00:37 03Cryp71c 07[ds_trade_offs] * 0.13-a0-439-g0463c21: Reorder runed_hands in the mutation list 10(29 hours ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=0463c216bc6f 21:00:37 03Cryp71c 07[ds_trade_offs] * 0.13-a0-444-g8fdc226: Merge branch 'ds_trade_offs' of gitorious.org:crawl/crawl into ds_trade_offs 10(5 minutes ago, files, + -) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=8fdc22675aa9 21:01:22 that merge looks... strange 21:01:34 elliptic, tbh I'm not sure how I wound up with it. 21:02:01 am I correct that it doesn't look like its doing anything at all? 21:05:25 looks like it did nothing, yes 21:05:33 %:/Mana Shield 21:05:42 What's the command to search commits? 21:05:52 %git :/Mana Shield 21:05:52 03cjo * 0.13-a0-424-g7778caa: Mana Shield demonspawn mutation. 10(31 hours ago, 5 files, 67+ 6-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=7778caa9ee09 21:06:26 the history for that branch seems to have each of those commits appearing twice 21:06:54 I'm not competent enough with git to know what is really going on though 21:07:15 elliptic, nor am I...but I think I know what happened. 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