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05:06:38 <Cheibriados> NumPad handling fixes for WebTiles (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=6699) by Medar
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05:52:05 <Cheibriados> 03kilobyte 07* 0.12-a0-2414-gd804129: Give at least some XP for Experience cards. 10(17 hours ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=d804129209a8
05:52:05 <Cheibriados> 03kilobyte 07* 0.12-a0-2415-g541eb91: Uncrashify bashing folks with an inappropriate item. 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 1-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=541eb91041b2
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07:38:22 <alefury> [14:37]	<antlions>	mean
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13:29:08 <Gretell> Surr (L13 NaCj) ASSERT(is_weapon(wpn)) in 'itemprop.cc' at line 1635 failed. (Lair:4)
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13:56:46 <Cheibriados> Elementally enchanted arrows appear to do significantly reduced base damage vs resistant target (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=6700) by Sonny
13:58:19 <ChrisOelmueller> great bug there
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14:01:55 <Cheibriados> 03Aria B 07* 0.12-a0-2416-ge9549d0: Changed the "kneel at" message when praying in bat form to be a more thematic "perch on" 10(18 hours ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=e9549d020fff
14:02:24 <SamB> so, am I the only who's seeing test failures from shoal-hut.lua ?
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14:25:53 <freefall> seems like the various ogre tiles got messed up in trunk somehow
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14:33:55 <|amethyst> Who is "Aria B"?
14:34:03 <|amethyst> Do we have an IRC nick or Mantis username?
14:34:38 <|amethyst> I see, ACG on Mantis
14:34:47 <Medar> https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=6523
14:35:09 <|amethyst> oh, it is AriaB
14:35:37 <|amethyst> Still going to mailmap it so it doesn't have the space
14:35:46 <|amethyst> since that's how I detect people I haven't yet added to mailmap :)
14:35:55 <|amethyst> %git
14:35:56 <Cheibriados> 03AriaB * 0.12-a0-2416-ge9549d0: Changed the "kneel at" message when praying in bat form to be a more thematic "perch on" 10(19 hours ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=e9549d020fff
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14:47:02 <Sizzell> kekekela (L12 DDHu) ASSERT(smc) in 'mon-util.cc' at line 1334 failed. (D:13)
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14:56:39 <Cryp71c> Afternoon, gentlement.
14:56:42 <Cryp71c> gentlemen*
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15:09:08 <Zannick> you have no chance to survive time make debug
15:10:03 <Cryp71c> ??git
15:10:03 <Henzell> git[1/2]: Readonly: git clone git://gitorious.org/crawl/crawl.git  Read/Write: git@gitorious.org:crawl/crawl.git  Web interface: http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git or http://gitorious.org/crawl/crawl
15:10:11 <Cryp71c> ??git[2]
15:10:12 <Henzell> git[2/2]: https://crawl.develz.org/wiki/doku.php?id=dcss:help:git
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15:43:18 <Cryp71c> ??compile
15:43:19 <Henzell> I don't have a page labeled compile in my learndb.
15:43:21 <Cryp71c> ??build
15:43:22 <Henzell> I don't have a page labeled build in my learndb.
15:43:35 <Cryp71c> hrm, where did I stick that page.
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15:46:02 <ChrisOelmueller> ??compile crawl
15:46:02 <Henzell> compile crawl[1/1]: [Linux] You'll need git, build-essential, zlib1g-dev, libncurses5-dev, libncursesw5-dev, then "git clone git://gitorious.org/crawl/crawl.git; cd DCSS; git submodule update --init; cd crawl-ref/sources/; make [options]"
15:46:03 <ChrisOelmueller> that one
15:46:28 <Cryp71c> yay! yeah that's not the one I wrote originally, but it looks like its mine..someone must have moved it..or else I've lost my memory entirely
15:49:13 <Cryp71c> So how goes things as of late in dcss?
15:51:06 <HangedMan> abyss has unique stuff and floors and slightly less annoyance, V has been reshaped a bunch and said shapings will lead to big layout changes later, four new spells for the book of conjurations, some guy should be a dev but isn't for some reason
15:51:40 <Gretell> shtirlits (L2 DrWz) ASSERT(sel.size() == 1) in 'command.cc' at line 1729 failed. (D:1)
15:51:53 <alefury> probably more than one
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15:52:12 <HangedMan> well one specific guy comes to mind so that new V monsters can be in already
15:52:59 <alefury> with the amound of bugfixes posted in the mantis issue there cant be that many bugs left :P
15:53:21 <alefury> are they actually good?
15:53:27 <Cryp71c> Yeah I saw the e-mails about one of the devs, at least.
15:53:28 <HangedMan> the bugs would be fixed faster if he had more than one tester!
15:53:38 <alefury> heh
15:53:54 <HangedMan> said termcasts from said tester made the monsters look nice, unique, and nasty
15:54:47 <ChrisOelmueller> you are welcome to expand the corresponding !nick by adding your name to it!!
15:54:59 <Cryp71c> brb
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16:03:08 <Cheibriados> The tile image is wrapped around the tile. (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=6701) by Runemage
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16:13:48 <Cheibriados> 03SamB 07* 0.12-a0-2417-ga5f631d: Reduce message spam & improve progress messages in test/uniquegen.lua. 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 5+ 1-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=a5f631d931a7
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16:20:31 <AriaB> I'm looking at a bug where nets are doing damage when thrown by monsters: https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=6578  Are we sure nets aren't supposed to do damage?
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16:24:48 <HangedMan> but dying to a thrown net is hilarious
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16:30:00 <elliott> I don't think it's a bug, no
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16:47:17 <jilles> AriaB, that's because damage from monster throwing mainly depends on the monster's HD and hardly on the thrown item
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16:58:37 <AriaB> I see.  I'm going to assume it's fine as is then.
17:00:35 <jilles> AriaB, it is not a bug, but it's not intuitive
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17:01:45 <AriaB> Right.  Basically the net is just being thrown REALLY HARD, so it hurts.
17:02:56 <HangedMan> !lg * killer=tiamat kaux=~thrown x=dam
17:02:57 <Sequell> No games for * (killer=tiamat kaux=~thrown).
17:03:01 <HangedMan> really
17:03:36 <AriaB> tiamat?
17:03:48 <HangedMan> !lg * killer=angel kaux=~thrown x=dam
17:03:50 <Sequell> 3. [dam=10] tehpwn the Magician (L5 MuWz), hit from afar by an Angel (orcish club) on D:4 on 2013-01-03 20:16:36, with 457 points after 4685 turns and 0:09:56.
17:03:56 <DracoOmega> That's not so impressive
17:03:58 <HangedMan> bah where are the good examples
17:04:10 <DracoOmega> !lg * kaux=~thrown x=dam max=dam
17:04:11 <Sequell> 28037. [dam=87] Ragdoll the Fencer (L21 MuBe), worshipper of Trog, hit from afar by a merfolk javelineer (silver javelin) on Shoals:5 on 2011-02-21 10:46:39, with 312882 points after 85230 turns and 6:05:33.
17:04:23 <DracoOmega> Okay, silver is sort of cheating, too
17:04:43 <HangedMan> !lg * killer=orc warlord kaux=~thrown max=dam
17:04:44 <Sequell> 170. Celsitudo the Thaumaturge (L11 DEWz), worshipper of Sif Muna, hit from afar by an orc warlord (hand axe) in Bailey (bailey_axe_minmay_hex_keep) on 2012-03-01 12:39:38, with 9561 points after 19307 turns and 1:25:53.
17:04:48 <HangedMan> !lg * killer=orc warlord kaux=~thrown max=dam x=dam
17:04:49 <Sequell> 170. [dam=38] Celsitudo the Thaumaturge (L11 DEWz), worshipper of Sif Muna, hit from afar by an orc warlord (hand axe) in Bailey (bailey_axe_minmay_hex_keep) on 2012-03-01 12:39:38, with 9561 points after 19307 turns and 1:25:53.
17:04:53 <HangedMan> bleh
17:05:05 <DracoOmega> Yes, where are those stones for 50 damage kills, hey? :P
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17:07:48 <ChrisOelmueller> not seeing where silver would be cheating for a mube
17:09:03 <DracoOmega> That was back when it did extra damage to corporeal undead
17:09:43 <DracoOmega> (And had a higher damage multiplier, to boot)
17:13:00 <SamB> so, when I run "./crawl -test shoal-hut.lua", it always seems to fail on an iteration where it can't find any hut doors ... am I right in thinking that it really shouldn't insist on there being any ?
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17:14:14 <HangedMan> I thought greensnark removed the shoal-hut.lua because it wasn't more effective than the regular minivault placer
17:14:20 <HangedMan> so non-issue!
17:14:46 <SamB> er, I'm talking about the test
17:15:36 <ChrisOelmueller> if the test is trying to find doors in the new ending, good luck
17:16:30 <HangedMan> there is also an new ending without doors yes so maybe that's an issue
17:16:55 <SamB> HangedMan: I'm guessing you made that one ;-P
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17:17:57 <HangedMan> yup!
17:18:02 <SamB> (I mean, unless someone forged it ;-)
17:18:49 <ChrisOelmueller> HangedMan: your vault patch didn't fix most of the Elf: depth issues right
17:18:56 <ChrisOelmueller> because i still see lots of them here
17:19:51 <HangedMan> yeah I kind of forgot about that in the middle of all those other things
17:20:17 <HangedMan> decided to leave that for the next 100 vault vaultchanging patch
17:20:25 <HangedMan> (sorry)
17:20:49 <HangedMan> alternatively somebody besides me can start fixing up vaults to make sense but that'd never happen
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17:23:48 <SamB> what this really wants to do is test that all huts are conencted to the exterior, but I guess it's not smart enough to actually find the *inside* of a hut ...
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17:28:09 <ChrisOelmueller> HangedMan: have fun http://bpaste.net/show/dEEKUWWJAoEtmsXyh5Jt/
17:28:55 <HangedMan> couldn't give line numbers or anything
17:29:19 <ChrisOelmueller> i hate line numbers for being too noisy
17:29:24 <ChrisOelmueller> sorry :(
17:30:00 <HangedMan> have to make things as hard as possible for the person you want to have do stuff
17:30:35 <ChrisOelmueller> clearly
17:31:31 <ChrisOelmueller> HangedMan: http://bpaste.net/show/dvkamjkuQxMMD4WOyTh7/
17:31:52 <HangedMan> thank you for forsaking your core principles
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17:34:43 <Cheibriados> 03SamB 07* 0.12-a0-2418-gabeb565: Relax test/shoal-hut.lua: huts don't necessarily have doors anymore. 10(4 minutes ago, 1 file, 4+ 1-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=abeb565083ad
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17:37:13 <HangedMan> ugh, I wish bruniq existed, I want to make these tendrils appear often in abyss too but that'd interrupt only placing certain vaults a few times in D
17:38:57 <DracoOmega> Bruniq?
17:39:09 <HangedMan> br(anch)uniq
17:39:13 <HangedMan> like l(evel)uniq
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17:41:17 <HangedMan> !tell ontoclasm so as the tilesdev for "Alien, pervasive curves of thick stone tendrils curling onto a given level" do you think the tiles in http://sprunge.us/YYLd work well enough or should I use more explicit weird stuff or something (though I'd prefer to stay understated and stone)
17:41:17 <Henzell> HangedMan: OK, I'll let ontoclasm know.
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17:44:25 <HangedMan> that is probably difficult to read due to lack of commas
17:44:30 <HangedMan> but commas are for jerks
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17:56:16 <AriaB> Should the skeleton version of a flying creature be non-flying?
17:56:40 <AriaB> Well, specifically a creature that flies with wings.
17:57:28 <DracoOmega> Well, it's clearly magic that's making them move in the first place, so I see no problem with their wings magically still keeping them airborn too
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17:57:37 <elliptic> I'd say it should be able to fly with magic because - yeah that
17:58:01 <ChrisOelmueller> can we also get rid of the flapping wings thing
17:58:04 <ChrisOelmueller> *please*
17:58:04 <AriaB> Ok.  Also, is there a better tile to use for a flying skeleton than the bat skeleton?
17:58:24 <DracoOmega> Well, dragons have a different skeleton tile
17:58:58 <DracoOmega> I think there are others, too? (I forget what a sphinx skeleton looks like, exactly)
17:59:27 <AriaB> Actually, that's the bug I'm working on.  The sphinx skeleton was just a humanoid skeleton.
18:00:34 <AriaB> There wasn't a zombie->skeleton conversion case for their type, TILEP_MONS_ZOMBIE_QUADRUPED_WINGED
18:01:51 <alefury> yeah i saw that one
18:01:53 <DracoOmega> I'm pretty sure sphinx skeletons did not used to look like small humanoids, at any rate
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18:02:28 <alefury> they used to work, yes
18:02:37 <DracoOmega> Yeah, they used to look like normal quadraped skeletons
18:02:41 <DracoOmega> At least in 0.11
18:02:45 <alefury> i was starting to believe it was just happening due to me not making clean between tiles updates
18:03:07 <SamB> time to break out the "git bisect"?
18:03:41 <elliott> it will have been the flight commits
18:04:01 <DracoOmega> Why? It used a land-based skeleton in the first place
18:04:05 <DracoOmega> Just one for beasts and not humanoids
18:04:19 <elliott> well other skeleton stuff broke then too
18:04:24 <alefury> there was something related to undead in there, yeah
18:04:26 <DracoOmega> Oh, it did? I don't recall
18:04:34 <elliott> then it got more broke or something? no dia
18:04:35 <elliott> *idea
18:04:36 <alefury> maybe it was a different commit, but it was around the same time
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18:06:29 <alefury> 6523 just got hilarious, thanks for bad forms kilobyte
18:06:54 <alefury> also thanks for that reopening message
18:07:07 <AriaB> Also, is there any problem with me doing some QoL case reordering?
18:07:30 <alefury> if you make things prettier without breaking things, probably nobody is going to complain?
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18:07:41 <SamB> QoL?
18:07:45 <AriaB> Quality of Life
18:07:58 <alefury> mind the style guide though
18:08:18 <alefury> otherwise youre going to get bracecided and checkwhited :P
18:08:45 <AriaB> Sure, I doubt what I'm doing will break any style, just alphabetizing some stuff.
18:09:27 <alefury> crawl does use fallthroughs
18:09:32 <alefury> or whatever theyre called
18:09:53 <AriaB> not in this section for sure
18:09:55 <alefury> not sure everything can be easily reordered in any way you want, but some stuff probably can be
18:11:05 <AriaB> http://codepad.org/CB8AkAOw
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18:11:35 <SamB> alphabetizing?
18:11:42 <SamB> why?
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18:12:01 <alefury> QoL
18:12:03 <AriaB> I guess it's not necessary
18:12:11 <alefury> probably not the same section? because this one does use lots of fallthroughs?
18:12:41 <AriaB> hm
18:13:10 <AriaB> yeah maybe I wont mess with it then
18:13:16 <alefury> i guess one could alphabetize by return, then by case, but it seems a bit pointless
18:13:29 <alefury> ctrl-f exists, thank god
18:14:23 <alefury> are crabs really quadrupeds?
18:14:42 <alefury> oh well, probably still the most fitting tile
18:17:16 <AriaB> shouldn't a lot of these have returns that don't? Like how: "case TILEP_MONS_ZOMBIE_QUADRUPED_LARGE:" doesn't return "TILEP_MONS_SKELETON_QUADRUPED_LARGE"
18:19:13 <elliott> sounds like a bug
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18:27:54 <SamB> yeah, I suppose there's nothing wrong with alphabetizing those within a fallthrough group ...
18:28:18 <DracoOmega> Well, some zombie tiles don't have corresponding skeleton tiles, or at least as specific ones
18:28:38 <DracoOmega> There's a lot of artwork to make if you want close-looking undead variants of most living things
18:29:31 <SamB> DracoOmega: yeah, but there are three other cases that *are* returning that value, so clearly it exists
18:30:08 <DracoOmega> Oh, hmmm
18:30:21 <DracoOmega> (I haven't actually looked at the relevant code, admittedly. I may have misunderstood)
18:30:45 <SamB> oh, wait
18:30:56 <SamB> nevermind the "other", this one is already returning that ...
18:31:24 <SamB> (this one is falling through to return that *anyway*)
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20:26:58 <Henzell> No messages for bh.
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20:28:33 <bh> hai
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21:27:17 * SamB is puzzled about why termrec isn't in Debian ...
21:29:31 <SamB> kilobyte: any particular reason?
21:32:25 <kilobyte> SamB: mostly because the player is a pile of race conditions
21:32:56 <SamB> what kind?
21:33:09 <kilobyte> the recorder is nearly redundant with ttyrec, that leaves only the vt100 library
21:33:56 <kilobyte> sometimes it locks up if you rewind or forward
21:34:02 <SamB> oh, really?
21:34:51 <kilobyte> I guess it's something easy to fix, I just never got around to it
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21:37:44 <AriaB> I'm unable to download this file because it requests a username and password, what do I need to do to be able to download it?: http://crawl.develz.org/saves/dumps/nht-82bdfc1-121109-1347.tar.bz2
21:38:26 <elliott> you need to be a dev
21:38:33 <elliott> or, well, have an admin account on a server at least
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21:39:37 <kilobyte> it'd allow people to cheat by knowing anything hidden in their save: item id, temple depth, monsters on level, etc
21:40:24 <dtsund> What would?
21:40:40 <kilobyte> being able to download saves
21:41:01 <dtsund> Oh, heh.  Yeah.
21:41:11 <kilobyte> this obviously hampers debugging somewhat
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21:42:41 <dtsund> Perhaps there could be an in-game key to dump a save file in the same directory as the morgue files, that marks the game unscoreable as wizmode would?
21:42:57 <elliott> that would be rather unappealing for bug reporters
21:43:31 <kilobyte> or possibly allow downloading after the game ends
21:43:53 <kilobyte> although this would make people dump saves over and over
21:44:23 <dtsund> Only keep the most recent dumpsave
21:45:56 <kilobyte> that would hurt legitimate reporting
21:46:41 <dtsund> Still better than status quo
21:47:30 <elliott> status quo seems fine to me
21:47:35 <elliott> non-des are limited in fixing bugs in other ways
21:47:41 <elliott> *devs
21:47:43 <elliott> like not having push rights :P
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22:03:32 <AriaB> Could somebody get that file to me somehow?  I'm having trouble replicating the bug on my own.
22:06:28 <Gretell> hypermikee (L2 MuEE) ASSERT(is_weapon(wpn)) in 'itemprop.cc' at line 1635 failed. (D:1)
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22:07:25 <kilobyte> AriaB: http://angband.pl/tmp/nht.cs
22:08:30 <AriaB> That's giving my an authorization required too :P
22:09:01 <SamB> so, as a dev, how would *I* download a save?
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22:14:57 <kilobyte> SamB: you should be able to login there; if not, shout at a server admin
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