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I thought that was fixed, but that's in the very latest trunk version 00:53:27 <|amethyst> %git 8350a08 00:53:27 03dolorous * 0.12-a0-2210-g8350a08: Use mons_should_fire() for the heal other/haste other tracer. 10(5 days ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=8350a08799e8 00:54:39 <|amethyst> unless it has something to do with the just-killed jackal 00:57:30 a gnoll wouldn't heal a jackal either 00:57:33 (normally) 00:59:38 -!- kekekela has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:03:49 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 01:04:04 -!- caleba has quit [Quit: caleba] 01:07:05 -!- monqy_ has joined ##crawl-dev 01:07:11 -!- monqy has quit [Disconnected by services] 01:07:16 -!- monqy_ is now known as monqy 01:08:06 -!- rossi has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.0] 01:19:46 -!- Vizer_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:20:09 -!- Vizer_ has joined ##crawl-dev 01:22:04 -!- clinew has quit [Quit: leaving] 01:39:45 -!- mince has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:42:35 -!- _dd has joined ##crawl-dev 01:46:31 -!- SkaryMonk has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 01:58:54 -!- ktgrey has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 02:04:48 -!- dcssrubot408 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:10:41 -!- Cfoofoo has quit [] 02:12:19 -!- ponies_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:17:08 -!- SkaryMonk has joined ##crawl-dev 02:17:57 -!- Vizer_ is now known as Vizer 02:18:14 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 02:34:19 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 02:38:05 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 02:50:04 -!- simmarine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:05:14 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 03:10:28 -!- zero_one has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.8] 03:14:25 -!- zero_one has quit [Client Quit] 03:20:03 -!- Kellhus has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 03:27:09 -!- shirish has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:27:49 -!- GuraKKa has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:34:28 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 03:34:54 -!- dcssrubot867 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:40:17 -!- shirish has joined ##crawl-dev 03:44:21 -!- freefall has joined ##crawl-dev 03:47:54 -!- tsn has quit [Quit: leaving] 03:51:42 -!- ketsa has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:54:49 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 04:00:46 -!- ac13 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 04:04:34 -!- daandruff has quit [Client Quit] 04:11:44 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:11:53 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 04:14:07 -!- mikee_ has quit [Quit: Want to be different? Try HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <-] 04:16:39 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 04:27:07 -!- POOPYBUTT has quit [Client Quit] 04:27:07 -!- BOOPYPUTT has quit [Client Quit] 04:29:46 -!- BOOPYPUTT has quit [Client Quit] 04:29:47 -!- Boopy has quit [Client Quit] 04:37:36 -!- minqmay has quit [Quit: Leaving] 04:39:41 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 04:39:47 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 04:53:07 -!- jday_ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 04:54:16 -!- st_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:54:40 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 04:56:46 -!- alefury has joined ##crawl-dev 05:05:00 -!- dcssrubot259 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:10:06 -!- monqy has quit [Quit: hello] 05:17:32 -!- kek has joined ##crawl-dev 05:19:03 -!- the_glow has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:19:57 Grunt: this interruptible waiting is noticeably slow when playing online... not good 05:23:39 elliptic: parabolic nerf 05:26:39 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 05:26:55 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:42:56 -!- mumra has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 05:45:02 -!- orionstein has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 05:47:02 -!- Boopy has quit [Quit: Leaving] 05:47:03 -!- BOOPYPUTT has quit [Quit: Leaving] 05:47:41 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 05:48:13 -!- edlothiol has joined ##crawl-dev 06:00:35 -!- scummos has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 06:01:14 -!- MaxFrosty has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 06:08:23 -!- madreisz has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 06:24:36 -!- daandruff has quit [] 06:25:32 -!- Zifmia has quit [Quit: AndroidIrc Disconnecting] 06:29:07 -!- syllogism has joined ##crawl-dev 06:29:30 -!- magicpoints has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 06:35:07 -!- dcssrubot109 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:36:18 with resting being what it is, I'm afraid server load just increased 10x 06:37:21 not sure how costly webtiles processing is in comparison, but at least the last time we did serious optimizing runs, resting took a big majority of the load 06:38:36 autoexplore usually lasts until the next room, normal play has a few turns a seconds max, resting does 1000 aut by one keypress 06:40:46 -!- DainDwarf has quit [Changing host] 06:41:27 perhaps a temporary revert/server update is in order until it can be optimised? 06:41:36 it's definitely a noticable speed change, watching elliptic play 06:43:47 -!- HangedMan has joined ##crawl-dev 06:45:56 -!- scummos has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 06:52:15 03kilobyte 07* 0.12-a0-2309-g6022688: Skip unnecessary overwrites during bracecidating. 10(24 hours ago, 1 file, 8+ 4-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=6022688413e0 07:00:19 -!- SurpriseTRex has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 07:02:34 -!- johnthebear has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 07:09:20 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 07:24:30 Grunt: oif, please run "test/stress/timeall" with the new resting, and without 07:24:54 all tests that don't use arena are slowed by a factor of 5-6 07:25:08 -!- magistern has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 07:26:12 I'm puzzled as to why there's a (non-trivial) performance hit at all; I'm not sure from the specification of the new resting behaviour why there would be 07:37:33 -!- edlothiol has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 07:39:47 elliott: sadly, it makes most of code run ten times as often 07:40:17 while monsters won't get to act more, currently most of the time is spent looking whether they should act, etc 07:41:01 enchantments will fire ten times as often (just with a smaller duration), player durations, item decay, cloud dispersal, etc 07:41:03 well, you can implement the semantics without repeating 10 1 aut waits, right? it can just be a 10 aut wait that gets interrupted wherever the monster actions that are meant to interrupt resting occur 07:41:08 but maybe there is some way it should be done this way, I don't know 07:41:34 not an easy task, I'm afraid 07:42:07 current needs to know how much time elapsed, and does everything in one chunk 08:05:14 -!- dcssrubot50 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:10:20 -!- rast has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90 [Firefox 18.0.2/20130201065344]] 08:13:05 auto-explore stalls with a wandering mushroom in a web trap (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=6660) by madreisz 08:15:09 -!- edlothiol has joined ##crawl-dev 08:22:18 -!- st_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 08:34:58 -!- Celsitudo has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:35:12 -!- noppa354 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 08:41:07 -!- jcd748 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:46:12 -!- Ellandar has quit [Quit: Page closed] 08:50:09 anyway unless someone has a good idea for how to improve performance with resting, I'd say we should revert the interruptible waiting for now 08:51:11 I had a brilliant idea but then it turned out Crawl doesn't work that way! 08:51:18 so I suggest rewriting all the timekeeping logic so that it does 08:51:25 I suppose long-resting could still use 1.0 intervals instead of 0.1, but that feels like a poor patch over the problem 08:51:36 elliott: imo do this in your crawl fork thing 08:52:00 elliptic: how about revert it but removed randomised energy 08:52:02 *remove 08:52:07 so that it is about 100x less necessary 08:52:14 and the game gets simpler too! 08:52:51 well it would still be annoying for weapon swapping and such to be optimal play in some situations 08:52:59 yes but it would be less of a priority 08:53:10 by quite a long ways 08:53:23 well it wasn't really a priority anyway :P 08:53:47 ok but my main point is randomised energy is terrible 08:53:58 news 08:54:23 -!- HangedMan is now known as tenofswords 08:57:40 -!- hurdos has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 08:58:43 -!- Panfork has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:59:37 you only need interruptible waiting if something is going to interrupt it, right? A decent approximation would be long rest doing a short interruptible wait, plus a long regular one 08:59:44 short rest should always be interruptible 09:00:34 this would mean the player loses some time (<10 aut) if something comes into view while longresting 09:00:58 something like longrest = 50 aut interruptible + 950 aut normalwaiting 09:01:07 -!- SkaryMonk has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:01:41 <|amethyst> whatever solution you come up with, there's still the problem of probabilistic things having wrong probabilities for such short units 09:01:41 |amethyst: You have 3 messages. Use !messages to read them. 09:01:50 <|amethyst> but that's also a problem for spriggans vs nagas 09:02:07 mhh, usually smaller sigma 09:02:43 -!- johnny0 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 09:03:10 <|amethyst> kilobyte: any idea about this ghost bug thing btw? 09:03:18 <|amethyst> kilobyte: ghosts are showing up on the wrong level 09:03:21 sounds highly unpleasant to fix, but should be easy for someone who works with probability distributions. any insurance mathematicians around? :P 09:11:31 -!- sbanwart has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 09:19:54 -!- edlothiol has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 09:23:32 -!- edlothiol has joined ##crawl-dev 09:26:14 -!- tsn has quit [Quit: leaving] 09:35:21 -!- dcssrubot159 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:38:08 |amethyst: lemme take a look in a while 09:38:27 I think kb is right, to implement this properly, we need a priority queue. 09:38:48 someone had a more detailed proposal, IIRC 09:38:51 surely that will still happen in 0.12 09:38:56 :o 09:41:04 -!- buki has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:42:53 like the mon-pick overhaul? :) 09:43:00 uh oh 09:43:34 that one is probably more urgent than, say, shield tile fixes or some random manual doodads 09:43:43 very much so 09:43:46 I just have troubles forcing myself to touch it :p 09:44:03 and indeed it stops rebalancing Abyss or V monsters 09:45:57 <|amethyst> can we freeze after that's in? 09:46:02 <|amethyst> it's February already 09:46:24 (AFK, sorry) 09:46:25 good idea 09:46:27 <|amethyst> and there are plenty of bugs that need fixed 09:46:47 -!- nooodl has joined ##crawl-dev 09:48:22 -!- buki has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:52:08 -!- voker57 has quit [Changing host] 09:52:30 -!- Koolguydude has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:58:21 -!- SkaryMonk has joined ##crawl-dev 09:59:52 -!- mumra has joined ##crawl-dev 10:00:36 -!- Vizer has quit [Quit: bye] 10:09:06 -!- eb has quit [Client Quit] 10:23:20 -!- Nightmare is now known as Guest59177 10:28:31 -!- Insomniak` has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 10:28:38 -!- prominence has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:29:47 -!- AirwaveRaid has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:29:56 -!- SkaryMonk has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 10:30:27 -!- SkaryMonk has joined ##crawl-dev 10:31:42 -!- buki_ is now known as buki 10:31:46 -!- Leafsnail has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 10:34:03 -!- SkaryMonk has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:36:02 -!- SkaryMonk has joined ##crawl-dev 10:44:00 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:46:24 -!- inspector071 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:47:12 -!- noppa354 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:48:01 -!- SkaryMonk has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 10:50:59 -!- Rebthor has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90 [Firefox 18.0.2/20130201065344]] 10:51:47 -!- kober has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90 [Firefox 18.0.1/20130116073211]] 10:54:40 03dolorous 07* 0.12-a0-2310-g228d820: Mark Heal Other and Haste Other as utility spells. 10(6 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=228d820d4e64 11:03:22 -!- herself has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:05:27 -!- dcssrubot603 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:10:36 -!- daandruff has quit [] 11:12:52 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 11:13:04 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 11:14:59 -!- NekoRex has quit [Quit: "All the people will look up and shout 'Save us!', and I'll look down and whisper... 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I've encountered it myself and seen at least one other player encounter it. 13:04:29 no I mean before it had no path to the stair 13:04:32 so it'd be veto'd 13:04:34 Oh. 13:04:46 Stop speaking in confusing multiple negatives :b 13:05:12 (A hostile presence invades your grammar! You are confused.) 13:05:18 I blame these badvaults, they have fed on my intellect 13:09:56 -!- Vidiny has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 13:11:19 -!- MarvinPA_ has joined ##crawl-dev 13:12:01 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:12:02 -!- MarvinPA_ is now known as MarvinPA 13:20:11 tenofswords: speaking of badvaults, a couple of adjustments (mainly in the substing and the vs): http://pastebin.com/XBfYk5gp 13:20:56 you know you could have suck with the original subst and just used f:21 instead of a long line of glyphs 13:21:11 03dolorous 07* 0.12-a0-2312-gdbd9aca: Add minor cosmetic fixes. 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=dbd9acaf6264 13:21:11 03dolorous 07* 0.12-a0-2313-g2878495: Don't set is_beam for Haste Other, as it isn't set for Heal Other or Might Other. 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 0+ 4-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=28784951dbad 13:21:36 the vault has more than enough stuff that the kmask for !no_monster_gen is excessive 13:21:57 erm, not excessive, pointless? unnecessary 13:22:39 The idea with the kmask and such is: the vault places plenty of monsters; don't place any more on top of that to begin with and only start randomly generating monsters when the player clears out some of the initial monsters. 13:23:15 I remember being told that no_monster_gen only applies to intitial generation and not general generation or something 13:23:51 not sure about that myself 13:24:29 I guess the absdepth() == 27 could check for the bottom of D instead just in case anything changes 13:24:31 I'm fairly sure that isn't accurate. 13:25:06 I have an easy way to check, in any case, besides the poking through the code that I'm doing right now... 13:26:19 tagged Lemuel_river_lethe with no_monster_gen, &G removed all monsters, waited a bit, got some monsters wandering around 13:26:34 Monsters will come up the stairs regardless of no_monster_gen or not. 13:26:46 oh, hrm 13:26:57 better check time 13:27:02 I'm doing exactly what you're doing, for the record, only with my own vault <_< 13:27:42 I'm going to try something slightly different... 13:29:20 isolated all stairs, still have monsters 13:29:29 unless this deep troll came out of a hell portal... 13:32:52 -!- kek has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 13:33:25 This strikes me as a bug. 13:33:35 wellll 13:33:59 the current behaviour does mean certain things and it'd require annoying fixes in some cases that just don't want initial spawns 13:34:17 maybe a new no_starting_monsters kprop? 13:34:36 (the kprops and kmasks still need merging...) 13:34:46 I'm going to leave it alone for now until further investigation takes place, in any case. 13:34:54 mm 13:35:14 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 13:41:30 -!- Panfork has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:42:32 -!- jbenedetto has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:43:19 -!- magistern has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 13:50:22 -!- raskol has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 13:54:11 -!- Crazylemon64 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:58:56 -!- jday_ has joined ##crawl-dev 14:01:36 -!- bmfx has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 14:05:39 -!- dcssrubot88 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:06:39 03dolorous 07* 0.12-a0-2314-g0ac71eb: Properly mark might as an always-positive beam type. 10(5 minutes ago, 1 file, 4+ 0-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=0ac71ebb8c7a 14:06:39 03dolorous 07* 0.12-a0-2315-gc19f459: Group all always-positive beams together. 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 16+ 16-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=c19f45915c31 14:07:29 -!- marcmagus has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 14:13:53 -!- dtsund has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:14:10 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 14:20:56 -!- domiryuu has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:21:50 03dolorous 07* 0.12-a0-2316-g257fe81: Ignore genus checks for Heal/Haste/Might Other if the caster is an enslaved soul. 10(4 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=257fe8148945 14:30:39 -!- Pthing has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:31:58 03dolorous 07* 0.12-a0-2317-g649ffe1: Add spacing fix. 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=649ffe1c2401 14:32:21 -!- syllogism has quit [] 14:37:06 Rocangus (L5 MfWn) ERROR: range check error (35 / 35) (D:2) 14:39:14 -!- Guest12348 has joined ##crawl-dev 14:42:06 03dolorous 07* 0.12-a0-2318-g26d6b5b: Comment fix. 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=26d6b5b57ba8 14:45:48 -!- Serfuzz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:47:11 03dolorous 07* 0.12-a0-2319-g25e1466: Add brackets. 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 1-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=25e146629eaf 14:47:16 does anyone have any thoughts on what the best way to make meatsprint mergeable would be? 14:47:36 are there any issues besides the axe of woe error message? 14:48:06 mainly that, it seems entirely possible there are other issues i've not spotted though :P 14:48:37 -!- johnthebear has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 14:51:53 -!- ketsa has joined ##crawl-dev 14:52:32 MarvinPA: are you the creator of meatsprint? 14:53:25 no, st_ is 14:54:04 ah, is there a branch for meatsprint on gitorious? 14:54:14 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=6636 14:54:36 don't really need a branch for maps :P 14:56:10 ah, true :P 14:56:43 i just wasn't sure since you mentioned merging 14:57:06 layouts are done in vault code, they count as maps, clearly mumra shouldn't need to make branches for newnew/hypervaults and thus should be made a map dev 14:57:18 03dolorous 07* 0.12-a0-2320-g7b11d11: Comment fixes. 10(in the future, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=7b11d110fc44 15:08:49 -!- Namey has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:10:18 -!- DracoOmega has joined ##crawl-dev 15:15:15 -!- caleba has quit [Quit: caleba] 15:15:37 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 15:19:33 -!- crate has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:20:15 -!- monqy has joined ##crawl-dev 15:27:39 03dolorous 07* 0.12-a0-2321-g420e984: Properly add the "not self" flag to all spells targeting others. 10(4 minutes ago, 1 file, 5+ 5-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=420e9840e9a7 15:35:47 -!- dcssrubot638 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:36:52 -!- nicolae- has joined ##crawl-dev 15:37:41 -!- nicolae- has left ##crawl-dev 15:39:06 -!- nicolae- has joined ##crawl-dev 15:39:23 -!- Psyknux has quit [Quit: My work is end \(^o^)/] 15:40:12 -!- Zaba has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 15:42:03 -!- Parak_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:45:04 -!- Zaba has joined ##crawl-dev 15:46:07 -!- Elkan has quit [Quit: Quitte] 15:49:38 -!- ToastyP has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90 [Firefox 18.0.2/20130201065344]] 15:52:43 -!- AriaB has joined ##crawl-dev 15:55:45 -!- nicolae- has left ##crawl-dev 16:01:40 -!- Crazylemon64 has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 16:02:37 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 16:18:31 -!- blackcustard has joined ##crawl-dev 16:19:18 -!- DainDwarf has quit [Changing host] 16:20:56 -!- Leafsnail has quit [Quit: Not that there is anything wrong with that] 16:22:59 -!- clinew has quit [Quit: leaving] 16:23:54 -!- friendlybee has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:28:45 -!- hoody has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:33:52 -!- Arkaniad has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 16:34:28 Grunt: any ideas what to do with the resting slowdown? 16:35:19 MarvinPA: for the meatsprint axe, I'd say, let's make it a nogen unrandart 16:35:46 yeah, i fiddled around a bit with that locally, seems like it would work 16:35:46 I think the main problem for the axe is more the fact that one form is executioner and one form is broad 16:35:52 except there'd have to be two versions of it 16:36:01 it could even me made auto-hit auto-kill (ie, +∞) 16:36:09 fr telescoping axe 16:36:34 actually, unrands don't have a real reason to always use the same base item 16:36:50 lehudib's crystal bardiche 16:37:05 the executioner's axe of curses 16:39:08 03ontoclasm 07* 0.12-a0-2322-gc39e477: Erolcha and Gastronok tiles 10(29 minutes ago, 2 files, 0+ 0-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=c39e477bc714 16:39:08 03ontoclasm 07* 0.12-a0-2323-gc8b2bd8: Zombie kraken head edit 10(28 minutes ago, 1 file, 0+ 0-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=c8b2bd870231 16:39:08 03ontoclasm 07* 0.12-a0-2324-g4453d63: Bush tiles 10(4 minutes ago, 7 files, 7+ 4-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=4453d638cddf 16:39:08 03Grunt 07* 0.12-a0-2325-g1bc0f1a: Revert wait command interrupt changes. 10(4 minutes ago, 8 files, 16+ 54-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=1bc0f1a50ed0 16:39:10 lehudib's crystal bardiche would cause problems with tile, yeah 16:39:27 kilobyte: that. 16:39:48 I came across some other major problems with what that was doing while I was testing unrelated things earlier. 16:40:13 <|amethyst> hm 16:40:32 <|amethyst> You mention constriction, but I though we already scaled that by time taken 16:40:44 <|amethyst> s/ough/ought/ 16:41:30 More of an interface problem than anything to do with damage, necessarily. 16:41:57 <|amethyst> oh, because the damage is applied in smaller packets 16:42:02 <|amethyst> which I guess is a problem with DDs 16:43:07 -!- inspector071 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:44:25 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 16:49:16 03kilobyte 07* 0.12-a0-2326-g7e2a7a3: Drop code for Evaporate outright, it doesn't need to wait for the bump. 10(10 hours ago, 4 files, 0+ 106-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=7e2a7a3f47a5 16:52:31 -!- Guest59177 has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 16:54:51 -!- alefury has joined ##crawl-dev 16:55:39 why isn't constriction just applied every 1.0 aut or something 16:55:46 10* 16:59:12 I would rather error message in meatsprint go away 16:59:23 then I can get rid of all the rings of slaying too 17:00:05 obviously let grunt's modifying base attacks of monsters commit in 17:00:15 <|amethyst> ontoclasm: the idea is to implement time as a priority queue so we can do just that 17:00:26 unless that gives everything autohit then it wont work 17:00:29 then we can get vault submittals with af_confuse unseen horrors but 17:00:30 oh right 17:00:43 <|amethyst> ontoclasm: because currently things only happen after every player turn 17:00:45 |amethyst: 1learn add horology 17:01:10 i see 17:01:33 <|amethyst> ontoclasm: so if you took 9 aut actions, "every 10 aut" would mean skipping some turns and doubling up on others 17:03:13 ah 17:03:19 <|amethyst> err, I guess just skipping, but still 17:04:38 -!- Garhauk_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:05:53 -!- dcssrubot226 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:08:44 -!- Wehk has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:09:29 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.12-a0-2326-g7e2a7a3 (34) 17:14:44 -!- blabber has quit [Quit: leaving] 17:15:48 -!- kekekela has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:16:00 constriction being applied every 1.0 time isn't that good, either: you give a monster three whacks at 0.3 delay each then go away -> 0 damage dealt 17:16:23 -!- ZChris13 has joined ##crawl-dev 17:19:10 -!- hoody has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:20:19 -!- geekosaur has quit [Excess Flood] 17:23:06 -!- ZChris13 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:25:40 with that bracecide script, be extremely careful not to do if (cond) statement; on a single line 17:26:56 <|amethyst> jilles: well, not to do that then immediately follow it by a block 17:27:07 <|amethyst> which is good advice anyway 17:27:13 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:27:32 I'm thinking of a more subtle issue 17:27:49 <|amethyst> ? 17:27:55 if you have if (a) { if (b) s1; } else s2; the braces are absolutely required 17:27:58 -!- ZChris13 has joined ##crawl-dev 17:28:14 <|amethyst> oh, yes 17:28:31 gcc's -Wparentheses knows about the simple case, but can be fooled by an intervening for loop or similar 17:28:45 and some people don't like that warning 17:29:16 -!- AirwaveRaid has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:32:27 crawl uses -Wno-parentheses 17:32:56 that's because that warning includes lots of spam if you use basic operator precedence rules 17:33:41 from that point of view, you could also accept if (a) if (b) s1; else s2; as valid 17:33:48 but I think it's too risky 17:34:08 that has clearly defined semantics 17:34:19 certainly 17:34:29 but you can indent it as if the else belongs to if (a) 17:34:32 which it doesn't 17:34:40 could potentially be a bit unclear, but the warning is too broken to be enabled 17:34:53 <|amethyst> would be nice if those were split 17:35:06 <|amethyst> -Wparentheses and -Wdanglingelse 17:35:08 seriously, disallowing "a && b || c" is asinine 17:35:34 i would disallow the latter as maintainer of a project 17:36:15 <|amethyst> what about a / b * c 17:36:21 <|amethyst> does it complain about that? 17:36:25 no 17:36:44 <|amethyst> hm 17:36:45 that's 3rd grade elementary school stuff 17:36:53 <|amethyst> kilobyte: that people get wrong all the time 17:36:58 what |amethyst said 17:37:36 <|amethyst> that said, I don't like fully parenthesizing logical expressions 17:37:56 since the alternative would be adding a massive number of parentheses, and thus make expressions hard to read, I'd prefer having some barriers to entry 17:37:58 <|amethyst> but we have had problems with that in the past 17:38:29 i wonder how clarifying code can be misunderstood as making it harder to read 17:38:52 whether parentheses make code more readable is a point of controversy 17:39:02 ChrisOelmueller: oververbose code takes more mental effort 17:39:21 <|amethyst> ChrisOelmueller: which would you rather read, 3*x^2 + 7*x + 5 or (((3*(x^2)) + (7*x)) + 5) ? 17:40:10 3 x 2 ^ * 7 x * + 5 + 17:40:15 no need for precedence :p 17:40:22 gah, beat me to it 17:40:51 * Grunt applauds. 17:41:01 ##crawl-dev, ladies and gentlemen 17:41:05 <|amethyst> ah, the land of Łukasiewicz 17:41:41 <|amethyst> well, I guess technically "the land of Łukasiewicz" is now the Ukraine 17:43:20 -!- DainDwarf has quit [Quit: Dain's default quit message] 17:43:20 <|amethyst> but I imagine he was already at Warsaw when he introuced his logical notation 17:43:27 <|amethyst> s/rou/rodu/ 17:46:40 <|amethyst> oh, wow, I didn't know Mostowski was born in Lww too 17:47:58 -!- yogidabear has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:49:31 -!- Vidiny has quit [Quit: [19:23] don't they have refill machines in ikea [19:24] bet those muricans took their vases to those straight away after paying] 17:53:20 -!- Kalir has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:53:47 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 17:56:23 -!- dtsund has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:56:51 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:58:38 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:59:41 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 18:03:34 -!- morphy has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:13:48 -!- madreisz has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:17:08 -!- nooodl has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 18:19:47 -!- Poncheis has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90 [Firefox 18.0.1/20130116073211]] 18:29:43 -!- Nakatomy has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:34:45 Okay, there's definitely something more wrong with haste other targeters and the like 18:34:54 Regarding #6659, I guess? 18:35:11 I just got: 18:35:11 The ogre mage points at the ogre and mumbles some strange words. 18:35:12 _The red ugly thing seems to speed up. 18:35:21 Except they're not even in the same direction at all 18:35:59 -!- dcssrubot237 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:36:43 -!- Wahaha_ has quit [] 18:39:14 I bet dolorous broke it... 18:40:27 <|amethyst> DracoOmega: and the RUT was the one that actually got hasted? 18:40:31 Yes 18:40:54 -!- rkd has quit [] 18:42:07 -!- scummos has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:46:28 -!- mumra_ has joined ##crawl-dev 18:47:11 -!- alefury has quit [] 19:03:38 -!- rwbarton has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:04:56 -!- eXcel has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:09:15 -!- Dixlet has joined ##crawl-dev 19:10:42 03ontoclasm 07* 0.12-a0-2327-gbe95932: Obelisk and lightning spire tiles 10(5 minutes ago, 3 files, 0+ 0-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=be95932be2d5 19:10:44 Used sage card, didn't receive any message (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=6662) by Medar 19:19:37 -!- y2s82 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:20:13 -!- Arkaniad|Laptop has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 19:27:40 ontoclasm: two problems with the lightning spire: 19:28:07 1. the description, and the message given when you make one, don't fit the new tile the slightest 19:28:19 "who cares the old tile was bad" 19:28:37 well, i guess i should make a different tile for it 19:28:48 i didn't even think to look at the description 19:29:15 2. it's probably not a good idea to have something indestructible that's the focus of a tornado look the same (sans a palette swap) as a fragile source of weak lightning 19:29:31 hm 19:29:39 too be fair, neither monster "exists" 19:30:24 tenofswords: ZotDef and a couple vaults for lightning spires, tornado stuff for the diamond obelisk 19:30:34 "exists" 19:31:43 is the lightning spire really suppoed to be a literal tesla coil because 19:31:44 uh 19:32:07 the desc can be changed, of course 19:33:12 <|amethyst> hm... Medar's problem appears to be some kind of rendering bug 19:33:20 -!- HellTiger has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 19:33:35 <|amethyst> There is a lightgrey underscore at the beginning of the cyan " C - the Sage" line 19:36:39 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:39:10 -!- MorganL has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:40:49 -!- pelotron has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 19:41:17 -!- ZChris13 has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90 [Firefox 20.0a2/20130211042016]] 19:41:34 -!- ZChris13 has joined ##crawl-dev 19:45:24 -!- Calisca has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 19:46:20 -!- ToastyP_ is now known as ToastyP 19:51:08 03ontoclasm 07* 0.12-a0-2328-gde9775e: Training dummy 10(32 minutes ago, 1 file, 0+ 0-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=de9775e46048 19:51:08 03ontoclasm 07* 0.12-a0-2329-g5f56e36: Lightning spire 10(74 seconds ago, 1 file, 0+ 0-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=5f56e36949c4 19:51:16 better? 19:53:00 I think so, yeah 19:57:06 -!- edlothiol has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:59:47 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:00:17 -!- ManofMetal has quit [Client Quit] 20:00:36 -!- shirish has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20:02:16 -!- crate has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:02:21 -!- mikee_ has joined ##crawl-dev 20:04:17 -!- crate_ is now known as crate 20:04:51 -!- SurpriseTRex has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20:05:45 -!- Vizer has joined ##crawl-dev 20:06:05 -!- dcssrubot978 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:08:17 -!- Zermako has quit [] 20:10:19 -!- ChongLi has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:20:24 -!- shirish has joined ##crawl-dev 20:21:47 -!- magistern has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:23:46 -!- Roarke has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:34:11 * Grunt senses an incoming badmantis. 20:36:37 Temporary mutations don't timeout outside the Abyss (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=6663) by byrel 20:38:08 Well, that's an amusing way to misunderstand what's going on 20:38:33 IKR? 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Let rax know if there are problems. | Play Crawl online now: type ??cao, ??cdo, ?cszo, or ??webtiles for instructions | http://crawl.develz.org | FooTV: termcast.develz.org | ##crawl-offtopic: You got your gender in my peanut butter! Xom thinks this is hilarious! 23:16:12 -!- greensnark has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:16:35 -!- Sequell has joined ##crawl-dev 23:16:36 -!- varmin has joined ##crawl-dev 23:16:45 -!- Eifeltrampel has joined ##crawl-dev 23:17:56 -!- Fleurka has joined ##crawl-dev 23:18:02 -!- rast has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 23:18:17 -!- rast_ is now known as rast 23:18:21 -!- greensnark has joined ##crawl-dev 23:23:27 -!- Gretell has joined ##crawl-dev 23:28:06 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 23:28:27 -!- ruwin has quit [] 23:35:18 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:35:58 -!- remyroy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:37:11 -!- morphy has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:38:12 -!- blackcustard has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:41:57 -!- kekekela has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:44:50 -!- nicolae- has joined ##crawl-dev 23:46:11 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90 [Firefox 18.0.2/20130201065344]] 23:47:32 -!- ophanim has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:54:44 the vault with the 8 food items and the one stone 23:54:47 in shallow water 23:54:55 thats clever 23:55:09 congrats to whomevers responsible 23:55:17 I think that's one of HangedMan's designs. 23:55:29 ugh, i just got the joke 23:55:37 nicolae-: it's right there in the vault name! 23:55:45 -!- Sovek has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:55:48 blah, who reads vault names 23:56:02 i remember seeing that vault in the wild, not in the vault .des 23:56:07 same 23:56:14 just now found it...