00:00:57 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.12-a0-1622-gec989fa (34) 00:01:00 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.12-a0-1622-gec989fa (34) 00:01:04 -!- edlothiol has joined ##crawl-dev 00:07:48 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.12-a0-1622-gec989fa 00:10:26 -!- magistern has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 00:10:53 -!- kekekela has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 00:12:45 -!- bh has joined ##crawl-dev 00:17:34 -!- bonghitz has quit [Client Quit] 00:22:16 -!- Misder has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:36:20 -!- AlphaQ has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.89 [Firefox 17.0.1/20121128204232]] 00:36:56 -!- valrus has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 00:45:28 -!- Nabski has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 00:50:01 -!- blabber has quit [Quit: leaving] 00:50:54 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: bonghitz] 01:06:15 -!- Senri has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:17:18 -!- Stelpa has quit [Quit: Butts] 01:17:53 -!- SkaryMonk has joined ##crawl-dev 01:19:01 -!- Spavven has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:19:39 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: bonghitz] 01:20:54 Tile Naming Inconsistency (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=6511) by helsbecter 01:21:38 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 01:22:45 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 01:29:07 -!- Stelpa has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 01:33:04 -!- Vizer has quit [Quit: bye] 01:39:47 -!- Senri has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 01:40:19 -!- mumra has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 01:42:05 -!- andrewhl has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:42:36 -!- rast has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 01:44:00 -!- Lawman0 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:48:49 -!- Zephryn has quit [Quit: Colloquy for iPad - 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10:24:46 reading through morgues, i often find someone tried to webtiles-chat at me and were totally ignored 10:24:55 at the very least, i think disabling the ineffective method would be enough 10:27:12 yeah, people don't even get told if the game they're watching is console or webtiles 10:29:10 -!- StekarDraken has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:29:32 -!- Nightmare is now known as Guest11638 10:30:40 -!- Moanerette has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:30:49 maybe disabling is a bad idea, since it's still useful even if the player can't see it 10:32:54 the webtiles chat shows the player in the list only if they're on webtiles 10:33:27 i didn't know there was a list. in any case, people still try to chat at me regardless 10:33:33 I'm going to disable webtiles message logging if the player is on console, and console messaging if they're on webtiles 10:33:49 and maybe make it clearer if the player is on console 10:33:54 -!- Guest11638 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:34:01 i dunno, i kind of like seeing them in the morgue 10:34:14 i just don't want people to think i'm ignoring them or something 10:37:05 -!- Mandevil has quit [Quit: leaving] 10:37:34 edlothiol: I don't like the idea of console players having no way to respond 10:37:46 I know at least one console player checks ?: regularly when they know webtiles players are watching and reponds with notes 10:38:03 (also, afaict, console messages sent to webtiles games are already (silently) dropped) 10:45:37 so what do you propose 10:52:23 wait, if it shows up in ?:, then the game's process already knows of the messages 10:52:31 not sure... the two chat systems are pretty fundamentally different 10:52:35 ie, they should just show on _ like regular messages do 10:52:39 some way for console users to be notified when there is tiles chat seems like a good idea 10:53:04 dunno what should be done about the console -> webtiles direction 10:53:17 one trouble is the chats are used very differently. i don't really want a _ note for each of five "lol"s in a row 10:53:19 kilobyte: with the volume webtiles chat can reach, having it all in _ seems like a really bad idea 10:53:21 -!- Dixbert has joined ##crawl-dev 10:53:41 if a lot of people are watching you the (Hit _) notification would be up constantly and it'd output several message windows worth every time you press it 10:54:01 personally, not sure there *is* a good way to provide a console UI for such a high-volume medium 10:54:23 you could have a separate chat pane below the game pane 10:54:48 or perhaps just including these in the regular message window 10:54:54 personally: i turned the logging off in my rc, and when i respond to people with notes i hit escape, not enter, at the end. so they can see it but it isn't a note. seems like they should be entirely seperate to me 10:55:47 which would mean the chat pane is only available on hugeterm :V 10:56:00 ew; good point 10:56:25 like, you'll get: "The orc hits you. XXXGAYNIGGER420: lol" (yay for account names these folks use...) 10:57:39 -!- valrus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:57:56 as long as it gets it's own color by default that would work 10:58:18 otherwise "The orc hits you. Youconvulse: You die ..." 10:58:20 if it's going to actively interfere with the game, you'd need some sort of moderation control 10:58:59 (over in nethack land some of us end the names of our pets with "You die ..." to freak out players who find our bones 10:59:02 ) 11:01:34 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 11:03:23 -!- Morphy has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:15:47 -!- Rofaner has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 11:18:11 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:18:16 -!- Zifmia has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 11:21:17 -!- Dedagen has quit [Client Quit] 11:21:51 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 11:23:00 -!- Arkaniad has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 11:23:38 -!- Nightmare is now known as Guest74138 11:25:34 -!- Nightbeer has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:25:38 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 11:30:04 -!- Guest74138 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:35:34 -!- simmarine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:36:14 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 11:36:59 -!- Guest74138 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 11:39:14 -!- Nightbeer has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 11:39:53 -!- ToBeFree has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:42:36 -!- DracoOmega has joined ##crawl-dev 11:48:18 -!- Nightbeer has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 12:02:36 -!- Stelpa_ has quit [Quit: Butts] 12:02:58 -!- Stelpa has quit [Changing host] 12:09:18 Is there any particular reason that spells do not indicate when they struck for no damage, when weapon attacks do? 12:12:40 -!- Stelpa has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 12:14:55 -!- raskol has quit [Quit: auf wiedersehen] 12:14:58 -!- Mutt has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:17:12 -!- Flun2 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:18:46 -!- Stelpa has quit [Changing host] 12:18:47 -!- andrewhl has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:38:53 -!- Porost has quit [Read error: No route to host] 12:43:23 -!- SkaryMonk2 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 12:51:52 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 12:52:38 -!- ToBeFree has joined ##crawl-dev 12:52:51 -!- blabber has joined ##crawl-dev 12:54:47 -!- DainDwarf has quit [Quit: Dain's default quit message] 12:57:22 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 13:00:19 -!- magistern has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 13:01:54 -!- mivue has quit [Client Quit] 13:06:28 -!- imantor_ has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 13:14:31 -!- CampinSam has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 13:18:31 -!- monqy has joined ##crawl-dev 13:34:05 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 13:40:24 -!- Letchik1 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 13:42:05 -!- Sobieck has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:45:18 -!- nooodl_ has joined ##crawl-dev 13:48:25 -!- Zifmia has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:53:40 -!- Zermako has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- The professional IRC Client :D] 14:07:39 -!- Alheris has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 14:07:48 -!- bmfx has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 14:09:24 -!- SurpriseTRex has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 14:13:09 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:23:21 -!- Kashida has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:27:15 -!- Pthing has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:27:22 -!- _D_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 14:38:53 -!- burningled is now known as BurningLed 14:40:28 -!- Alcibiades has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:40:31 -!- Namey has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:40:53 -!- tekoppen has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:41:38 -!- syllogism- has quit [] 14:42:26 -!- johnstein_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:43:31 -!- Lightli has joined ##crawl-dev 14:43:58 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 14:45:57 -!- blabber has quit [Quit: leaving] 14:46:56 -!- scummos^ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:47:06 Moreover (yay for trains of thought with 3 hours pauses) is there any reason this should not be changed so that they do? 14:47:25 What should be changed 14:47:38 -!- dtsund has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:48:58 Well, if a spell hits a monster and does no damage, it gives the same message as if it did damage, unlike weapon attacks which will actually tell you 14:49:11 I am not sure if there is any particular reason this should not be changed 14:49:27 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 14:50:08 DracoOmega: the main thing that comes to mind is that the message spam for spells that hit multiple monsters at once could be annoying 14:50:23 I suppose that may be true 14:51:11 I wonder if it would be a big change in message volume in general though? 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Use !messages to read it. 20:42:18 !messages 20:42:18 (1/1) elliptic said (8h 26m 20s ago): Yeah, I played tournament chess for quite a few years 20:42:34 last messages include Xom doing a mass-inner flame 20:42:46 Xom's a jerk 20:46:20 Does anyone think it's unreasonable to add a ministun to knockback effects? Because currently you can knock something back a square and have it look as though the thing never budged, since it immediately steps back to where it used to be. 20:46:28 (I realize this doesn't come up very often, but...) 20:52:34 -!- tsohg has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:52:46 03kilobyte 07* 0.12-a0-1623-g6de8d04: Make debug mode Abyss not so extremely spammy. 10(22 hours ago, 1 file, 2+ 0-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=6de8d04db988 21:05:24 -!- Bop has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:06:48 What's wrong with spam?? 21:07:02 elliptic: I'd like to see you face off against Haran. I suspect you'd smack him around :) 21:07:57 there's unused code for selectively enabling or disabling specific dprf messages 21:08:57 ie, it works (for the few dprf() calls that have a class assigned), but there's no interface to toggle the thing 21:12:11 -!- monqy has joined ##crawl-dev 21:12:39 -!- BurningLed has quit [Quit: time to sleep] 21:14:16 -!- minqmay has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:18:48 -!- Salivanth has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:19:13 which files should i look at to see what sort of lua is available from an rcfile? 21:19:16 -!- dptr1988 has quit [Quit: leaving] 21:22:52 -!- Lightli has joined ##crawl-dev 21:23:10 <|amethyst> faze: dat/clua/*, dat/dlua/{util,iter,tags,init,userbase}.lua, and $(grep -l cluaopen *.cc) 21:23:42 |amethyst: thanks 21:25:03 ah, -l is a nice grep option i havent used 21:25:19 i typically do -in so i can jump to the line 21:31:52 -!- Chozo has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:43:11 -!- Fhqwhgads has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:48:20 03kilobyte 07* 0.12-a0-1624-g419f3c4: Give debug abyssal messages a separate dprf class. 10(51 minutes ago, 2 files, 7+ 20-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=419f3c4eaa14 21:48:20 03kilobyte 07* 0.12-a0-1625-gdb8f331: Give monster placement debug messages their own class. 10(42 minutes ago, 4 files, 8+ 6-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=db8f331c33a3 21:48:20 03kilobyte 07* 0.12-a0-1626-gb31cafb: A basic interface for manually togging dprf quietness. 10(6 minutes ago, 4 files, 66+ 1-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=b31cafb7cd45 21:48:54 -!- bza has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:51:43 -!- Salivanth has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:52:58 -!- bh has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:53:25 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 21:54:14 -!- animegrampa has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:03:47 -!- yxhuvud has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 22:03:48 -!- jacobe has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:07:10 Debian builds of the trunk branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.12-a0-1623-g6de8d04 22:10:14 -!- mivue has quit [Quit: mivue] 22:11:21 -!- eb has quit [] 22:11:32 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 22:15:56 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 22:23:34 -!- Vizerr has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:28:50 |amethyst: is there a simple way to have a list option that's a set of boolean flags? initfile.cc is a mess, I'm not sure if I have to implement own parsing, or whether existing functions can handle it 22:30:10 I mean, quiet_debug=combat,abyss,beam; preferably with niceties like quiet_debug-=abyss 22:32:25 the former can at least be done somewhat simply with splitting on comma 22:33:15 Most of the time when I see lists of boolean flags in text form, you'd see something like "quiet_debug=combat,beam,-abyss" or "quiet_debug=+combat,+beam,-abyss". 22:33:26 It's a bit messy, but at least it's unambiguous. 22:34:13 Well, this is an interesting way for my IDE to fail me (or perhaps I just messed up the rebase in an odd way). But a function is being called by the game, despite a search not turning up a single usage of that function anywhere in the code at all. I am rather perplexed. 22:34:29 sure, I just don't want to invent a yet another syntax if the current one would work 22:34:29 And since this is old code, I don't even remember where it's supposed to have been called from 22:35:12 DracoOmega: grep > any IDE I know 22:35:22 Well, it's just doing a text search on all project files 22:35:37 But the only instances it finds of the function name are in the function declaration and definition 22:36:00 Obviously this is impossible 22:37:21 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 22:37:52 it's probably linking against a precompiled library that provides it 22:37:59 I wrote the function 22:38:05 #define START(x) start_#x() 22:38:15 oh, i misread what you said 22:38:21 (just for the "impossible" part :p) 22:38:26 I just wrote it enough months back that I forget where it's bein called from specifically 22:38:37 the only place that grep says it's called from is within itself 22:39:00 Well, it doesn't show any calls to it at all 22:39:09 Though it definitely is being called from somewhere 22:39:35 gcc -E will preprocess and then you can grep that for the actual calls. 22:40:21 or if all else fails, gdb and set a breakpoint inside 22:40:22 -!- ToastyP has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.89 [Firefox 17.0.1/20121128204232]] 22:40:23 alternately, did you pass the function as an argument somewhere 22:40:28 Well, restarting the IDE seems to have made it magically find the call again, though I don't know how it didn't in the first place. 22:40:47 I do wonder if the rebase had something to do with it, and it still had an old and invalid copy of one of the files in memory or something? 22:40:51 oh, you weren't using grep at all 22:40:58 -!- quazi has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:41:18 Well, no, but it was just a text search within the IDE 22:41:34 But it should have been functionally similar 22:42:39 (I actually DID mess up part of the rebase, anyway >.>) 22:47:31 Well, still learning and all, I suppose 22:50:44 -!- mamga has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:51:11 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: bonghitz] 22:55:57 -!- magistern has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 22:57:02 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 22:57:49 -!- Guest78631 has joined ##crawl-dev 22:58:06 -!- Guest78631 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:59:17 -!- Zephryn has quit [Quit: Colloquy for iPad - http://colloquy.mobi] 23:05:08 -!- mivue has quit [Quit: mivue] 23:07:57 -!- animegrampa has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 23:08:29 -!- G-Flex has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:12:33 -!- Misder has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 23:22:51 -!- blackcustard has quit [Quit: being stupid, sunstruck, and Dead, flew into the rocketing FIN.] 23:28:04 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 23:30:02 -!- Senjai has quit [Changing host] 23:34:24 03kilobyte 07* 0.12-a0-1627-g7bb2416: Formatting nazi to the rescue! 10(3 minutes ago, 19 files, 56+ 62-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=7bb24165f785 23:39:33 -!- valrus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:40:28 -!- Zephryn has quit [Quit: Colloquy for iPad - http://colloquy.mobi] 23:46:25 -!- kekekela has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:47:58 -!- wasd22 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 23:48:52 -!- Pikkle has joined ##crawl-dev 23:52:44 -!- substitute has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:56:27 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:58:03 lol