00:01:12 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.12-a0-1588-gd11e324 (34) 00:02:17 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.12-a0-1588-gd11e324 (34) 00:05:32 -!- blackcustard has quit [Quit: being stupid, sunstruck, and Dead, flew into the rocketing FIN.] 00:09:06 -!- valrus has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 00:13:20 -!- kekekela has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:13:55 -!- Lightli has quit [Quit: Saber] 00:14:27 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.12-a0-1588-gd11e324 00:14:37 -!- eeviac has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 00:17:25 -!- eeviac has joined ##crawl-dev 00:19:54 okay, someone should try playing a trunk game on quitrobin on CSZO 00:19:59 oops wrong channel 00:20:07 ??quitrobin 00:20:08 quitrobin[1/1]: Incorrect example: http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/QuitRobin/morgue-QuitRobin-20080514-063933.txt 00:20:29 elliptic: what's the idea? To quit on the D:1 stairs holding the orb? 00:20:56 -!- Datul has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:21:00 well, I just added some lua to make it automatically quit the game 00:21:12 I'm not sure what the original intention of the account was 00:23:35 -!- Yermak has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:27:27 -!- eeviac has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.89 [Firefox 15.0/20120830123745]] 00:31:59 -!- stillcen has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:35:16 -!- dspencer has quit [Client Quit] 00:37:10 -!- DracoOmega has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:54:34 -!- capablanca has quit [Client Quit] 01:03:52 -!- andrewhl has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:08:37 -!- hoody has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:13:28 -!- dagonfive has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 01:16:09 -!- __jpmorgan has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:17:43 -!- __jpmorgan has joined ##crawl-dev 01:18:12 -!- Lawman0 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:22:06 -!- Dixbert has joined ##crawl-dev 01:22:18 -!- ophanim has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 01:35:15 -!- rossi has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.9.2] 01:37:18 -!- Stelpa has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 01:41:57 -!- Arkaniad|Laptop has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 01:46:19 -!- Dunwich has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:46:43 -!- Nivim has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:47:03 -!- Nivim_ is now known as Nivim 01:55:25 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:58:51 -!- Arkaniad|Laptop_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:01:51 -!- hoody has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:04:28 -!- Nabski has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:05:22 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: bonghitz] 02:06:31 -!- archl has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.89 [Firefox 17.0.1/20121129165506]] 02:10:53 -!- bh has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:10:53 -!- Pikkle has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 02:13:04 -!- Pikkle has joined ##crawl-dev 02:33:55 -!- Zeor has quit [Quit: start playing killing floor and suddenly it's 3:33 am] 02:35:20 -!- ktgrey has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 02:47:03 -!- Mandevil has quit [Quit: leaving] 02:47:13 -!- BorekL is now known as Mandevil 02:51:31 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 02:57:10 -!- Pepe[netbook] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:11:18 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 03:21:05 -!- Silas is now known as Guest80118 03:29:59 -!- klz has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:35:55 -!- st_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:42:24 -!- simmarine has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:45:26 -!- edlothiol has joined ##crawl-dev 03:48:17 -!- Saty has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:49:16 -!- _dd has joined ##crawl-dev 03:49:40 -!- _dd is now known as Guest25297 03:50:34 -!- dieseltime has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:52:14 -!- dieseltime has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:59:52 -!- Ragdoll has joined ##crawl-dev 04:07:14 -!- Guest80118 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 04:08:23 -!- Misder has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 04:13:10 -!- _D_ has quit [Quit: leaving] 04:19:19 -!- alefury has joined ##crawl-dev 04:20:48 -!- Aryth has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:25:00 -!- dagonfive1 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 04:27:11 -!- Crazylemon64 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:43:50 is wrath on penance going to go into the next 0.11 release? 04:44:03 it seems quite badly balanced without wrath scaling, which I understand is on the roadmap for 0.12 04:44:15 but the commit fixing it not happening was cherry-picked into 0.11 iirc 04:44:43 -!- syllogism has joined ##crawl-dev 04:52:33 -!- stubblyhead has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 04:59:34 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 05:00:03 OSX builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.12-a0-1588-gd11e324 05:09:07 -!- hart has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:10:47 -!- Lightli has joined ##crawl-dev 05:10:59 http://pastebin.com/1iMh3bmK 05:11:12 I have no idea on what to put into this vault 05:11:19 -!- SkaryMonk1 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 05:11:40 didn't you ask about this earlier? do you remember my advice 05:12:01 Yes, but that only really covers two chambers 05:12:11 And for one of them it's just one or two pieces of loot 05:13:00 -!- Findor has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 05:13:03 alright let me rattle off some themes and you can pick which ones you like 05:13:04 dragons 05:13:06 the color blue 05:13:09 elves 05:13:12 the color green 05:13:14 vampires 05:13:22 things with four legs 05:13:36 eyeballs 05:13:37 jellies 05:13:39 -!- Dixbert_ has joined ##crawl-dev 05:13:40 mummies 05:13:49 hybrids(H-glyph monsters) 05:14:01 -!- DainDwarf has quit [Changing host] 05:14:03 hybrids(funky vault monsters a la grunt's rogues gallery) 05:14:11 merfolk 05:14:21 the color "magenta" 05:14:29 plants 05:14:34 immobile monsters 05:14:35 slow monsters 05:14:37 fast monsters 05:15:02 Lightli: is that enough inspiration? 05:15:05 Dragons is already done in that one Zot entry vault 05:15:18 alright don't use dragons then 05:15:50 Jellies? I'm not making slime pits: the vault. 05:16:02 alright don't use jellies then 05:16:14 Merfolk are out since I don't want to use water 05:16:36 Plants outside of oklobs are jokes, and oklobs are worse than slime pits 05:17:01 ...What monsters are blue? 05:17:04 -!- Dixbert has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:17:37 storm dragons, deep elf annihilators, erolcha, iguanas 05:17:50 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: bonghitz] 05:18:29 That sounds brutal 05:18:44 well there are others too those were just examples 05:18:45 What about green? I know oklobs are included there 05:18:52 cherubim,--oh green? alright 05:19:13 most priests are green, hydras, dragons, crystal golems, to name a few 05:19:22 ??crystal golem 05:19:22 crystal golem[1/2]: More like cake golem. Yum. 05:19:28 crystal golem (038) | Spd: 7 | HD: 13 | HP: 102-132 | AC/EV: 22/3 | Dam: 40 | 11non-living, 10doors, see invisible | Res: 13magic(immune), 04fire+++, 12cold+++, 11elec+++, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | XP: 615 | Sz: Large | Int: plant. 05:19:28 %??crystal golem 05:20:07 nagas, rotting devils, "green" deaths 05:20:16 feeling inspired? 05:21:10 Yes 05:21:32 This is going to be a while before the vault is finished 05:21:43 If only because holy god there are a lot of options 05:28:01 -!- Harms_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 05:32:01 -!- mivue has quit [Client Quit] 05:32:54 -!- animegrampa has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 05:37:00 What are some dangerous poison monsters 05:37:54 depends on depth 05:38:08 pretty much any poison monster is dangerous at some depth 05:38:55 This vault is supposed to be on the final few floors 05:38:59 D20-27 05:39:46 fr: poison giant 05:41:01 -!- maahes has quit [Quit: Leaving] 05:41:03 greater naga, flavoured green draconians, 05:41:13 vault monsters 05:41:49 green deaths 05:43:22 I'm not going to be so mean to make them flavoured green draconians, but yeah 05:44:28 swamp dragon (07D) | Spd: 10 | HD: 9 | HP: 51-82 | AC/EV: 7/7 | Dam: 20, 11, 1107(trample) | fly, !sil | Res: 06magic(36), 03poison, 12drown | Chunks: 09poison+07contam | XP: 701 | Sp: poisonous cloud (3d7) | Sz: Huge | Int: animal. 05:44:28 %??swamp dragon 05:44:29 dragon (03D) | Spd: 10 | HD: 12 | HP: 74-110 | AC/EV: 10/8 | Dam: 20, 13, 1307(trample) | fly, !sil | Res: 06magic(64), 05fire++, 03poison, 12drown | Vul: 12cold | XP: 1358 | Sp: flame blast (3d24) | Sz: Huge | Int: animal. 05:44:29 %??dragon 05:44:54 Think swamp dragons might still be dangerous at that depth? 05:45:44 greater naga (13N) | Spd: 8 (act: 80%) | HD: 15 | HP: 62-103 | AC/EV: 6/10 | Dam: 27, 703(constrict) | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, spellcaster, see invisible | Res: 13magic(immune), 03poison | Chunks: 09poison | XP: 1683 | Sp: b.venom (3d19), mystic blast (3d19), haste, poison arrow (3d22), teleport other, teleport self | Sz: Large | Int: high. 05:45:44 %??greater naga 05:47:09 -!- magistern has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 05:51:31 fire giant (05C) | Spd: 10 | HD: 16 | HP: 68-120 | AC/EV: 8/4 | Dam: 30 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, spellcaster, sense invisible | Res: 06magic(85), 05fire++, 12drown | Chunks: 07contam | XP: 2054 | Sp: b.fire (3d25), fireball (3d26) | Sz: Giant | Int: normal. 05:51:31 %??fire giant 05:53:26 -!- mineral has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:53:32 -!- monqy has quit [Quit: hello] 05:54:13 -!- pantaril has quit [Quit: leaving] 05:58:26 -!- nooodl has joined ##crawl-dev 05:59:12 -!- zardo has quit [Quit: Page closed] 05:59:51 -!- Fear has quit [Quit: Leaving] 06:04:02 -!- G-Flex has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 06:16:59 -!- Pepe[netbook] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:23:34 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 06:26:18 -!- _D_ has quit [Quit: leaving] 06:28:36 -!- archl has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 06:28:38 -!- Guest25297 is now known as _dd 06:41:25 -!- sbanwart has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 06:47:08 -!- SwissStopwatch has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:49:44 -!- dagonfive has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:00:50 -!- sirtheta has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 07:10:57 -!- Nightmare is now known as Guest25256 07:11:21 -!- Senjai has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 07:11:42 -!- Stelpa has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 07:11:53 -!- blabber has joined ##crawl-dev 07:23:32 -!- sirtheta has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 07:23:37 -!- DracoOmega has joined ##crawl-dev 07:24:11 -!- Spectrina has quit [Quit: Page closed] 07:24:29 -!- iasov has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 07:37:20 -!- syllogism- has joined ##crawl-dev 07:38:15 -!- HangedMan has joined ##crawl-dev 07:38:35 -!- syllogism has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 07:46:27 -!- sirtheta has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 07:47:20 -!- blabber has quit [Quit: leaving] 08:16:51 -!- Prominence has quit [Client Quit] 08:19:12 -!- hoody has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:20:12 -!- sirtheta has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 08:26:31 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 08:37:44 -!- sirtheta has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 08:52:10 -!- rast has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 09:00:33 -!- valrus has joined ##crawl-dev 09:03:04 -!- sirtheta has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 09:12:08 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:15:37 -!- blabber has joined ##crawl-dev 09:16:43 -!- sirtheta has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:18:42 -!- archl has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.89 [Firefox 17.0.1/20121129165506]] 09:21:37 -!- blabber has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 09:23:06 -!- BlastHardcheese has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 09:24:39 -!- blabber has joined ##crawl-dev 09:32:39 -!- sirtheta has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 09:38:12 -!- blackcustard has joined ##crawl-dev 09:40:03 -!- the_glow has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:41:48 -!- Stelpa has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 09:50:16 -!- Fhqwhgads has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.89 [Firefox 17.0.1/20121128204232]] 09:51:36 -!- rast has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:56:00 -!- Stelpa has quit [Changing host] 10:04:45 -!- rast has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:06:44 -!- sirtheta has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 10:07:50 -!- Stelpa has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 10:13:37 why is the "tw" command labeled "wait here" when it actually seems to mean "wander around"? 10:16:14 -!- Stelpa has quit [Changing host] 10:18:40 wander around and focus on hitting whatever is around 10:26:58 -!- lexackson has joined ##crawl-dev 10:32:08 -!- valrus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:32:35 -!- hurdos has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 10:45:38 -!- Prominence has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:47:50 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 10:52:47 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 10:53:54 -!- sirtheta has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:58:46 -!- Pepe[netbook] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:05:52 freefall: it's more "do your own thing, and stop following me" 11:11:24 anyway, "wait here" seems like the wrong label 11:18:53 -!- BlastHardcheese has joined ##crawl-dev 11:22:50 everyone knows its bullshit, but whenever its brought up people start talking about how to change the ally control system, instead of just renaming it to wander 11:23:50 haha 11:26:56 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 11:28:07 -!- kek has joined ##crawl-dev 11:28:29 -!- Psyknux has quit [Quit: To terminate connection from the network. 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Use !messages to read them. 14:16:57 frogbotherer: a dev shouldn't apologize coding :) 14:17:00 *for 14:17:16 It feels sort of awkward to me that the targetter code basically replicates code used by the spell effects themselves. Which also seems like a great way to desync them somehow. At least in my case, but it looks like others do similarly, at a glance. 14:17:27 haha, 3000 lines of UI changes: i'm apologising to the other devs who're going to have to try to unpick it :D 14:17:41 I wonder if there's a better way that I should be going about this.... 14:17:41 !messages 14:17:41 (1/3) Moredread said (7w 17h 20m 52s ago): sorry, only got to try it today. on my desire z phone it works fine, on my tablet (asus tf700) it crashes on character creation (after selecting race and class) 14:19:07 !messages 14:19:07 (1/2) Moredread said (7w 17h 21m 37s ago): also some smaller inteface issues, I'll try to narrow it down later 14:19:14 !messages 14:19:15 (1/1) Moredread said (6w 4d 10h 52m 18s ago): I posted the android log to http://p.nnev.de/3083 for the crash of the pinch-zoom version of yours on my asus tf700t. do you need additional informations? 14:19:51 -!- SamB_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:19:54 -!- dspencer has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 14:22:26 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Rooms • iPhone IRC Client • http://www.roomsapp.mobi] 14:26:36 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 14:28:59 -!- DainDwarf has quit [Quit: Dain's default quit message] 14:33:22 -!- Lightli has quit [Quit: naptime/Saber] 14:34:18 -!- SamB has joined ##crawl-dev 14:36:25 -!- pantaril has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:40:25 frogbotherer: the android ndk url in android.txt seems to 404, it looks like the correct url would now be http://developer.android.com/tools/sdk/ndk/index.html 14:41:07 that'll teach me for guessing 14:41:21 i'll fix it up 14:47:13 -!- Zeor has quit [Quit: just got my new gamepad and now it's time to go to work] 14:50:30 -!- scummos has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 14:51:42 -!- Arkaniad has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 14:52:19 -!- Senri has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 14:53:46 -!- monqy has joined ##crawl-dev 14:59:59 03frogbotherer 07* 0.12-a0-1607-g7b9dd37: fixed link in android development docs 10(7 minutes ago, 1 file, 5+ 1-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=7b9dd373c717 15:00:27 frogbotherer: I get this http://pastebin.com/CwzJDHdC while trying to compile sdl-android. Any ideas what I'm doing wrong? 15:02:04 oooh that's a new one, i think 15:02:10 have you been able to compile it before? 15:02:17 no, first time I'm trying 15:03:52 -!- SamB has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:05:30 -!- Senri has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 15:07:07 can you stick the whole log on pastebin? 15:07:39 fr: dire ctories, from that paste's line wrapping 15:07:43 like dire elephants, but ctories 15:07:52 is this pastebin.com 15:10:30 i've only got a dummy.o for stlport; that log looks like it's trying to compile the whole library 15:12:30 there will be some config file somewhere that isn't quite right - let me have a rummage and see how mine's set up 15:12:43 http://pastebin.com/5BZBw49d 15:13:17 (that's from a non-clean build, of course) 15:13:40 -!- Guest25256 has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 15:13:50 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 15:16:18 -!- SamB has joined ##crawl-dev 15:16:37 -!- SamB_ has joined ##crawl-dev 15:16:42 -!- voker57 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:19:27 -!- SamB_ has quit [Client Quit] 15:19:27 -!- SamB has quit [Client Quit] 15:21:12 -!- SamB has joined ##crawl-dev 15:22:05 my toolchain is using a prebuilt libgnustl_static.a instead of compiling stlport 15:25:37 the log says "Prebuilt : libgnustl_static.a <= /sources/cxx-stl/gnu-libstdc++/4.6/libs/armeabi/" 15:28:11 I have that file too 15:28:27 but it's apparently not used... 15:29:50 -!- Senri has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 15:29:54 there is some config *somewhere* that tells it which of the four different standard libraries to use; i'm trying to remember where the blasted thing is :) 15:30:13 official NDK r8d, right? 15:30:38 yes 15:36:21 -!- Guest18947 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:37:20 -!- st_ has quit [] 15:37:35 cd contrib/sdl-android; cat project/jni/application/Android.mk project/jni/Application.mk|grep APP_STL 15:37:42 what does that give you? 15:38:53 APP_STL := gnustl_static, two times 15:39:01 -!- Brutus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:39:39 that's definitely right 15:42:31 -!- Bloodbeard has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:43:03 -!- dtsund has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:43:10 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 15:43:16 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 15:46:04 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 15:47:03 -!- hart has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:49:50 -!- valrus has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: http://www.textualapp.com/] 15:52:32 -!- FaMott has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 15:56:19 frogbotherer: ... I think I know what the problem was 15:56:32 oh right? :) 15:56:42 (still waiting for the compile to end to be sure) 15:57:15 what did you change? 15:57:27 well, it still failed, but not with the same error 15:58:02 I had renamed the ndk directory to android-ndk-linux (because I had already added that to the path before seeing what the extracted directory looked like) 15:58:14 -!- Stelpa has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:58:23 and apparently it uses the name of the dir to detect the ndk version... 15:58:35 oh! yes it probably does 15:59:16 i'll stick that in the android.txt too :) 15:59:22 yeah 15:59:39 well, let's see what's the problem now 16:00:45 hm, that error went away with the second compile, but it's still not working 16:01:37 Error: No resource found that matches the given name (at 'icon' with value '@drawable/icon') 16:04:42 -!- qbert911 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:05:41 oh i know this one 16:06:44 cd contrib/sdl-android && android update project -p project --target android-14 16:07:02 it's supposed to do that as part of the build 16:08:36 hm, that doesn't seem to have helped 16:08:55 -!- Frank___ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:09:00 it didn't return an error? 16:09:08 no 16:09:41 it said it updated project.properties, local.properties and project/proguard-project.txt, and that there are sub-projects 16:09:49 drawable/icon symlinks to icon.png in the crawl-ref dir, which doesn't exist 16:11:22 -!- Aryth has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.0.4 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/] 16:13:04 -!- Nightbeer has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:13:28 there's two possible reasons it's failing: either the build puts the correct symlink in *after* you need it 16:14:05 or: it's using the wrong android target (which has a different XML manifest format) 16:15:48 the target in the project.properties is android-14 16:16:11 that's definitely right 16:16:44 and it didn't complain about "android:xlargescreens" being invalid XML or anything like that? just the @drawable/icon missing? 16:17:31 actually, it also already complains about jni/application/src/libapplication.so not existing before that 16:17:45 that's fine 16:18:19 the symlink should be in crawl-ref: icon.png -> source/dat/tiles/stone_soup_icon-512x512.png 16:18:34 what would create it? 16:18:46 let me see if i can figure it out 16:23:15 creating the symlink by hand results in a successful build, at least 16:24:33 can you check the log carefully: if the crawl build itself fails, the script will continue to run to the end (and say "build successful", confusingly) 16:24:45 the apk is only 1.9MB, though, however many times I build 16:24:58 it'll only put the symlink in if there's a crawl binary created 16:25:06 i bet it's not working properly :D 16:25:48 hm, there's also g++: error trying to exec 'cc1plus': execvp: No such file or directory 16:26:05 when trying to build the first crawl cc file 16:26:14 in the rltiles/ subdirectory? 16:26:19 yes 16:26:29 that's my fault 16:26:35 i can't figure out how to fix it :( 16:26:54 basically, the *native* gcc needs to run to build the tiles tools 16:27:15 and if it inherits all the CFLAGS and stuff from the android tools, it doesn't even slightly work 16:27:56 so it does an "env -i - ..." to clear the whole build environment 16:28:23 which has the side-effect of blasting useful stuff like PATH and LD_LIBRARY_PATH :( 16:28:48 work-around is to: cd rltiles/ && make 16:29:08 hm, doesn't that problem exist for any other cross compile as well? 16:29:20 possibly 16:30:12 the way i set up the toolchain was *a* way that works, possibly not *the best* way for it to work :) 16:30:39 I mean, any other cross compile already supported by our build system 16:30:47 ok, maybe not the CFLAGS problem 16:31:18 unfortunately, each cross compile system typically has its own way to build host tools 16:31:53 many projects simply give up on it and write the host tools in a language that doesn't need to be compile 16:32:10 yeah, but there's already specific crosscompile handling in the rltiles/Makefile 16:32:18 or at least comments about it... 16:32:29 the problem really is that the environment variables that go along with [this use of the] android toolchain are monstrous 16:32:42 it does seem to reset the CFLAGS, for example 16:32:56 -!- Blazinghand_ has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 16:33:06 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:33:15 it overrides LDFLAGS, LIBS, CFLAGS, CXXFLAGS 16:34:56 making rltiles by hand doesn't seem to help, since it tries to rebuild it when I do make android afterwards 16:38:00 i'll have a go at fixing it properly 16:38:41 anyway, it's getting late for me, I'll have to try more tomorrow or next week 16:39:51 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 16:41:18 good night 16:41:32 -!- edlothiol has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:41:37 -!- mivue has quit [Quit: mivue] 16:43:43 -!- Senjai has quit [Changing host] 16:54:30 -!- magistern has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:59:17 -!- Namey has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:01:30 03frogbotherer 07* 0.12-a0-1608-g790e88e: improved build of rltiles for android 10(5 minutes ago, 2 files, 9+ 3-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=790e88e9b35b 17:06:53 -!- dptr1988 is now known as Guest17335 17:06:53 -!- Guest17335 has quit [Killed (wright.freenode.net (Nickname regained by services))] 17:06:53 -!- dptr1988_ is now known as dptr1988 17:07:47 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 17:10:16 !tell edlothiol i've updated the Makefiles to make it work a bit better; let me know if you're still having problems 17:10:16 frogbotherer: OK, I'll let edlothiol know. 17:13:30 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:13:46 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 17:16:05 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 17:17:34 -!- klz has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:21:43 03frogbotherer 07* 0.12-a0-1609-g7768dbe: amended android dev documentation again 10(69 seconds ago, 1 file, 8+ 2-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=7768dbe2f8e9 17:22:53 -!- ZenArcade has joined ##crawl-dev 17:27:03 -!- mamga_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:36:08 trying to jump onto the multi-monitor fashion: every program seems to work just fine, sans one. Guess which one :p 17:37:37 tiles default to a layout that takes the bounding box of all monitor's display area together, and takes somewhat less than that 17:38:48 -!- Datul has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:42:07 -!- almost has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:42:56 -!- scummos has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:43:18 -!- Senjai has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 17:51:26 -!- bh has joined ##crawl-dev 17:53:14 -!- sbluen has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:59:38 -!- Moses has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:00:06 -!- Mottie has joined ##crawl-dev 18:01:50 -!- Ragdoll has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:02:28 -!- francis has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:10:57 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 18:16:56 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 18:29:13 -!- bh has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:30:00 -!- codile has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 18:40:54 -!- Zifmia has quit [Quit: -a-] 18:41:45 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 18:42:32 03frogbotherer 07* 0.12-a0-1610-g5e10d7a: fixed crash on startup when TOUCH_UI defined but not using small layout 10(4 minutes ago, 2 files, 4+ 1-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=5e10d7a447f6 18:45:04 -!- blabber has quit [Quit: leaving] 18:48:28 -!- ZenArcade has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.89 [Firefox 15.0/20120830123745]] 18:50:28 -!- magistern has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:51:52 -!- hurdos has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 18:58:30 -!- Zifmia has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 19:04:10 -!- andrewhl has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:08:36 -!- codile_ has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.9.2] 19:08:50 -!- scummos has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 19:09:43 -!- Duke- has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:10:04 -!- sbanwart has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:11:50 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 19:15:54 -!- ZenArcade has joined ##crawl-dev 19:17:44 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.89 [Firefox 17.0.1/20121128204232]] 19:17:54 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 19:20:55 -!- Duke- has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:24:10 -!- alefury has quit [] 19:24:11 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 19:30:05 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 19:32:27 -!- Stelpa has quit [Changing host] 19:36:43 -!- Kellhus has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:39:18 -!- Gilihad has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:41:34 -!- Duke- has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:43:03 -!- frogbotherer has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:44:49 -!- syllogism- has quit [] 19:47:52 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 19:51:48 -!- voker57 has quit [Changing host] 19:54:15 -!- Senjai has quit [Changing host] 19:58:23 -!- Misder has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:01:25 -!- Lightli has joined ##crawl-dev 20:01:50 http://pastebin.com/1iMh3bmK 20:03:47 -!- Pthing has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:09:01 did you test this? your "V" monster set has "skeleton warrior", which I presume si supposed to be "skeletal warrior"... 20:09:31 monqy: no 20:10:00 Fixed 20:10:04 Anything else? 20:10:26 six green deaths, balrugs/fire giants, titans/storm dragons, blademasters, etc, in every room on D:15? 20:10:31 seems... excessive 20:10:35 SUBST: 1 : PFIEMOELSANSVCTHD 20:10:39 Wiat, D:15? 20:10:40 this is a fun statement 20:11:12 Oops. I thought it was D:20. and even now I'm still uncertain if D:20 is deep enough 20:11:44 why do you keep using commas instead of slashes when commas in KMONS is for uniques only 20:11:46 -!- blabber has joined ##crawl-dev 20:12:26 HangedMan: Because I am as bad at vaultmaking as I am at Crawl. Also because I'm running on 15 hours of no sleep 20:12:28 why do seven lines of subst nonsense here instead of just shuffling the whole thing 20:13:18 -!- crate has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:13:55 Because I have no idea how shuffle worked 20:14:07 ...it's not that difficult... 20:14:43 -!- Arkaniad has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:15:20 -!- archl has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.89 [Firefox 17.0.1/20121129165506]] 20:15:59 with 6 a room it'd make much more balance sense to just throw out the ridiculously strong, vault-boss-level stuff out of these KMONS instead of letting random chance produce potentially absolutely absurd combinations 20:16:50 the L set is a mess of random monsters thrown together for what's supposed to be lair, where's the catoblepas 20:17:14 -!- _dd has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:17:30 skeletal dragon won't actually load what kind of mindset even makes people share vaults before making sure they work at all in crawl itself 20:17:43 The kind that is barely awake 20:17:58 then go to sleep and wake up in the morning and fix a million errors 20:18:11 got it. 20:18:32 * kilobyte ponders 1d1a0ee0 adding a whole pile of code to convert UTF-8 to UTF-8. 20:19:00 especially code that we already have a private implementation of 20:19:23 -!- Arkaniad|Laptop has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20:22:37 to list stuff that you probably wouldn't catch even when you're awake: no_monster_gen will make sure the themes actually work, just replace the SUBST with SHUFFLE: [all those letters] and make the map definition just have the first six letters, use more general hells monsters instead of 1s in the hell set, replace the impaler and possibly alligator snapping turtle in the shoals set with a siren, and use a specific sized slime creature (large, I guess) i 20:22:44 ... 20:22:44 -!- Zifmia_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20:22:46 that was longer then I thought it'd be 20:23:06 it got cut off 20:23:11 where 20:23:15 "in " 20:23:20 swamp 20:23:21 specific 20:23:44 specific sized slime creature (very large) in swamp so the room isn't potentially full to bursting 20:23:48 thanks 20:24:09 I'm not going to help further until I'm actually talking to a somebody, go get sleep if you want to use it as an excuse 20:24:48 -!- dptr1988 has quit [Quit: leaving] 20:25:36 -!- Nabski has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:25:46 Got it. Night. 20:29:47 -!- Arkaniad|Laptop_ has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 20:30:19 -!- ZenArcade has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.89 [Firefox 15.0/20120830123745]] 20:30:45 -!- ZenArcade has joined ##crawl-dev 20:31:18 -!- BanMido has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:31:43 -!- HDA has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:31:43 -!- Nivim has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:32:08 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:32:33 -!- Garhauk has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:32:58 -!- mamga has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:33:23 -!- mamga_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:33:23 -!- kekekela has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:33:23 -!- Yermak has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:34:47 -!- Zermako has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- IRC with a difference] 20:36:12 -!- magistern has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:39:19 -!- Arkaniad has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:43:00 -!- klz has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20:43:05 -!- Arkaniad|Laptop has quit [Quit: I've killed the senator.] 20:48:42 -!- Arkaniad|Laptop has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20:49:30 -!- kek has quit [Quit: Kicked by KickServ] 20:54:05 -!- Dixbert has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:01:24 -!- minqmay has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:03:19 -!- Schwer-Muta has quit [] 21:03:56 03kilobyte 07* 0.12-a0-1611-g49a615e: Don't use a yet another utf8_to_wc implementation for no-op conversions. 10(38 minutes ago, 1 file, 12+ 225-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=49a615e57792 21:09:00 03kilobyte 07[bad_forms] * 0.12-a0-1561-gf1430ea: Let jelly form eat arbitrary items (code only, needs numbers). 10(3 hours ago, 2 files, 87+ 37-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=f1430ea76e5e 21:10:52 * kilobyte counts the number of grammar screwups in the last commit messages and decides that I'll do less damage by hitting the sack. 21:19:37 -!- Poncheis has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.89 [Firefox 12.0/20120420145725]] 21:24:12 -!- Lawman0 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 21:24:27 -!- Zifmia has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 21:30:03 -!- eb has quit [] 21:36:51 -!- Nabski has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:37:14 -!- tsohg has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:41:34 -!- archl has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:43:05 -!- dagonfive has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 21:48:22 whoever gave +fog to the cloak of the thief is the new #1 best dev 21:48:57 -!- Dunwich has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:50:21 iirc MarvinPA ? 21:50:38 i got to use it for the first time in dieselrobin though, cool stuff 21:50:44 %git :/fog 21:50:45 03MarvinPA * 0.12-a0-1125-ga7c5d47: Give the cloak of the Thief an evokable ability to release fog 10(7 weeks ago, 10 files, 52+ 9-) 13http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=a7c5d47ac657 21:50:51 i thought it was gonna run off exhaustion or something but its actually just infinitely evoable 21:51:04 pretty good when you are a vampire and dont actually care about hunger! 21:53:05 -!- Arkaniad|Laptop_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:53:39 -!- Moanerette has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:54:06 evokable fog sounds pretty good for a vampire flavorwise, too :P 22:00:45 -!- HangedMan has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:01:18 -!- Arkaniad|Laptop_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:01:32 -!- nooodl has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 22:07:19 Now that's just clouding the issue. 22:07:21 >_> 22:11:40 -!- Stelpa has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 22:18:48 -!- Pikkle has joined ##crawl-dev 22:21:42 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 22:23:07 -!- ophanim has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:28:19 -!- Lightli_ is now known as Lightli 22:31:29 -!- rkd has quit [] 22:31:54 -!- virigoth has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:38:41 -!- HellTiger_ has quit [Read error: Connection timed out] 22:39:10 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 22:44:59 -!- Duke- has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:51:16 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:59:13 -!- Tekoppen has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:01:08 -!- Arkaniad has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 23:03:24 -!- Lightli has quit [Quit: Saber] 23:04:22 -!- ZenArcade has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.89 [Firefox 15.0/20120830123745]] 23:07:24 -!- Nightbeer has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 23:13:24 -!- mamga has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:16:32 -!- Pacra has left ##crawl-dev 23:16:42 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 23:19:50 -!- Zaba has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 23:22:47 -!- Zaba has joined ##crawl-dev 23:23:06 -!- Dunwich has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:37:20 -!- Pthing has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:39:38 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 23:42:46 -!- Yermak_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:46:01 -!- Arkaniad|Laptop has quit [Read error: Operation timed out]