00:00:20 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 00:01:06 Pre-release branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.11-b1-153-g9494c8e (33) 00:02:09 hmm, I don't like how you get "A bone dragon comes into view." "A bone dragon coalesces out of seething chaos." 00:02:50 I think only the latter message is necessary. Also it should use the "danger" channel, like the "comes into view" message uses 00:04:53 Stable (0.11) branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.11-b1-153-g9494c8e 00:05:14 evilmike: I did what 'comes down the stairs' messages do. 00:05:30 hmm 00:05:32 If someone wants to fix that up so it doesn't make duplicate messages they can, but I'm not stepping forard 00:05:33 forward 00:06:06 fair enough. those messages are also redundant, I just never noticed (stair spawns are rare) 00:06:41 bh: hey, remember how you wanted space filling curves in zot? The abyss is possibly the one place where you could actually get away with that :P 00:06:44 beyond small-ish vaults, I mean 00:06:44 evilmike: well duh :-D 00:08:54 Windows builds of pre-release branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.11-b1-153-g9494c8e 00:09:11 -!- tensorpudding_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 00:10:09 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.12-a0-602-gc950061 (34) 00:11:38 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 00:12:28 -!- Rewans has quit [] 00:20:00 -!- hangedman has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 00:22:26 -!- johnny0 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:22:36 -!- Dixie has joined ##crawl-dev 00:28:54 cirno (L15 FeFi) ASSERT(player_in_branch(BRANCH_ABYSS)) in 'abyss.cc' at line 984 failed. (D (Sprint)) 00:29:30 cirno (L15 FeFi) ASSERT(player_in_branch(BRANCH_ABYSS)) in 'abyss.cc' at line 984 failed. (D (Sprint)) 00:30:16 cirno (L15 FeFi) ASSERT(player_in_branch(BRANCH_ABYSS)) in 'abyss.cc' at line 984 failed. (D (Sprint)) 00:31:37 cirno (L15 FeFi) ASSERT(player_in_branch(BRANCH_ABYSS)) in 'abyss.cc' at line 984 failed. (D (Sprint)) 00:33:20 <|amethyst> !lm cirno crash -log 00:33:22 No milestones for cirno (crash). 00:36:41 -!- blackcustard has quit [Quit: being stupid, sunstruck, and Dead, flew into the rocketing FIN.] 00:37:31 -!- bmfx has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 00:38:37 |amethyst: sprint 00:38:39 !lm cirno sprint crash -log 00:38:42 4. cirno, XL15 FeFi, T:1688 (milestone): http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/cirno/crash-cirno-20120922-052704.txt 00:39:01 -!- Egglet has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 00:40:27 is it really intended that quaffing gain stat potions makes you more vulnerable to silver 00:41:35 cirno (L15 FeFi) ASSERT(player_in_branch(BRANCH_ABYSS)) in 'abyss.cc' at line 984 failed. (D (Sprint)) 00:41:43 <|amethyst> err 00:41:54 <|amethyst> you_teleport_to calls maybe_shift_abyss_around_player() 00:41:55 -!- ophanim has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:42:07 <|amethyst> why?? 00:43:52 <|amethyst> !tell kilobyte 357f8d0 breaks Lua you.teleport_to() when you're not in the Abyss 00:43:52 |amethyst: OK, I'll let kilobyte know. 00:47:01 neil (L1 HuFi) ASSERT(player_in_branch(BRANCH_ABYSS)) in 'abyss.cc' at line 984 failed. (D (Sprint)) 00:50:19 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.12-a0-603-g38374f5 (34) 00:50:51 <|amethyst> !tell kilobyte fixed now 00:50:51 |amethyst: OK, I'll let kilobyte know. 00:51:46 03|amethyst * r38374f519e99 10/crawl-ref/source/l_you.cc: Allow teleporters to work outside the abyss. 00:52:08 -!- netkitten has joined ##crawl-dev 00:54:24 i have a question. is it a bug or it was intended, i play sprint as fefi of jiyuva and, when jiyuva heals me, despite it says me that i feel better etc i am healed not more than ~2-3 hp instead of dozens of hp before the patch 00:54:53 <|amethyst> before what patch? 00:55:15 like 20 minute ago 00:56:37 probably all the valuable items got eaten or something? 00:56:43 my char crashed when i tried to enter the next room, then the server was patched again and i entered it but there is something weird with the healing 00:56:58 it doesn't work that way, i think, elliot 00:57:06 jiyva healing depends on item vlaue, I hear 00:57:07 -!- Poncheis has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:57:12 i still get messages that im healed, mutated etc 00:57:13 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: bonghitz] 00:57:27 and it's just ~1300 turn 00:57:27 (because you get healed when items get eaten) 00:59:20 <|amethyst> as elliott suggests, it's probably because they're eating cheap items now 00:59:43 netkitten: which sprint is this? 01:00:08 hm, k, ty.. i just haven't seen something like that before and i played some jiyuva games offline.. 01:00:11 <|amethyst> zigsprint I imagine, given the comment about crashing 01:00:15 sprint 5 01:00:31 -!- st_ has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 01:01:09 hm, maybe the jellies finished with everything except for the huge stack of arrows and now they are just working on that? 01:01:18 <|amethyst> the last substantive change to godpassive.cc was in May 01:01:43 well, probably it's random then.. thanks 01:01:50 -!- netkitten has left ##crawl-dev 01:07:20 -!- ToastyP has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 15.0.1/20120905151427]] 01:11:20 |amethyst: can you pull inception? 01:12:19 -!- TGWi has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:16:19 -!- eb has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:25:50 -!- nilsyn has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:28:09 03bh 07inception * reca30501ba5c 10/crawl-ref/source/ (abyss.cc dgn-proclayouts.cc dgn-proclayouts.h): Castles 01:30:01 -!- Roarke_ is now known as Roarke 01:54:34 -!- tensorpudding_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:55:54 -!- Codrus has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:56:33 -!- bh has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:07:05 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:09:57 -!- Nomi has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 02:15:51 -!- joosa has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:16:09 -!- Zephryn has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:16:15 -!- Taynav has quit [Quit: Insert Witty Quit Message] 02:16:35 -!- piss has quit [Quit: fuck cops] 02:18:23 -!- Palyth has quit [] 02:31:00 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: leaving] 02:31:25 -!- Nilsyn has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:33:33 -!- blabber has joined ##crawl-dev 02:46:24 -!- Ideocl4st has quit [Read error: No route to host] 02:50:00 -!- moohaus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:54:11 -!- Ideocl4s_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:00:33 -!- ortoslon has joined ##crawl-dev 03:00:50 -!- hoody has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:03:59 -!- Ideocl4st has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:04:24 Napkin: could you build windows tiles trunk? no binaries for two weeks :( 03:04:44 aren't the binaries 0.11 for now 03:05:30 -!- Pacra has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 03:05:55 -!- Rofaner has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 03:06:21 sure, ortoslon 03:06:36 currently only 0.11 is built by default 03:07:34 -!- smeea has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:16:28 -!- Hosg has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:17:07 ortoslon: tiles or console or the installer - what do you prefer? 03:17:33 tiles zip 03:17:53 http://crawl.develz.org/trunk/crawl_tiles-0.12-a0-603-g38374f5.zip 03:18:17 thanks 03:18:24 -!- ortoslon has quit [Quit: bye] 03:18:24 you're welcome 03:19:48 -!- Frosteey has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:21:33 -!- indspenceable has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 03:21:51 -!- crate has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:22:35 -!- netkitten has joined ##crawl-dev 03:24:29 -!- dpeg has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 03:25:48 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.12-a0-603-g38374f5 03:28:16 -!- netkitten has left ##crawl-dev 03:30:25 -!- Silurio has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 03:56:10 -!- Captain is now known as Guest82268 03:56:28 -!- Guest82268 is now known as CaptainPickles 03:56:32 -!- nooodl has joined ##crawl-dev 03:56:40 -!- Sgun has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 03:59:08 -!- VolteccerJack has quit [Quit: Page closed] 04:01:23 -!- dtsund has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 04:09:21 -!- blabber has quit [Quit: leaving] 04:16:20 -!- edlothiol has joined ##crawl-dev 04:16:43 -!- Vizer has quit [Quit: nipaa~] 04:17:04 -!- monqy has quit [Quit: hello] 04:18:04 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: bonghitz] 04:22:04 -!- blabber has joined ##crawl-dev 04:31:14 -!- blabber has quit [Quit: leaving] 04:33:56 -!- Roarke has quit [Quit: Page closed] 04:34:00 -!- evilmike has quit [] 04:36:02 -!- Dixie has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:39:41 -!- blabber has joined ##crawl-dev 04:42:02 -!- rufford has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:43:48 -!- effo has quit [Quit: Page closed] 04:47:02 -!- DracoOmega has quit [] 04:49:08 -!- Vizer has quit [Client Quit] 04:52:23 -!- alefury has joined ##crawl-dev 04:52:43 -!- DainHome has quit [Changing host] 05:00:04 OSX builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.12-a0-603-g38374f5 05:00:41 -!- Ideocl4st has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:02:55 -!- Aresius has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 05:16:03 -!- AlphaQ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:16:58 -!- ktgrey has quit [] 05:19:16 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 05:22:34 -!- Stelpa has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 05:30:35 -!- sacredchao is now known as stenno 05:36:42 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 05:45:42 -!- domi has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:50:50 -!- Aresius has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 06:00:00 -!- CaptainPickles has quit [Quit: Page closed] 06:00:00 -!- Silurio has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 06:25:25 -!- pelotr0n has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 06:28:15 -!- G-Flex has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:29:34 -!- G-Flex has joined ##crawl-dev 06:48:48 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 06:53:18 -!- ark____ has joined ##crawl-dev 06:58:37 -!- netkitten has quit [Quit: netkitten] 07:08:20 -!- Aresius has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 07:10:22 -!- eb has quit [] 07:28:40 -!- temujin_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:40:49 -!- y2s82 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:48:09 -!- zmvp has quit [Quit: Page closed] 07:57:40 -!- syllogism has joined ##crawl-dev 08:03:04 -!- syllogism has quit [] 08:03:15 -!- thened has quit [Quit: thened] 08:04:35 -!- Tolias has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:04:54 -!- Elynae has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:07:13 -!- temujin has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:20:39 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 08:33:54 -!- netkitten has quit [Quit: netkitten] 08:40:36 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 08:52:41 -!- onwiheg has quit [Changing host] 08:53:36 -!- Serfuzz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:53:59 -!- hangedman has joined ##crawl-dev 08:54:58 -!- DainHome has quit [Quit: Dain's default quit message] 08:56:53 -!- MICu has quit [Quit: Page closed] 08:57:04 why is it that minivaults can freely use {}[] (short of other vaults using them, I should consider a luniq_stair(s|case) patch), but occasionally when using ) it places floor instead? 08:58:18 if it's not possible to ensure connectivity without moving the stairs inside vaults, the dungeon builder will do that 08:58:35 see dungeon.cc:1798 08:59:28 -!- Predelnik has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:01:09 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 09:01:45 bleh, my vault's using {} [( ]) pairings, I guess I'll have to work around it 09:07:07 if it's ensuring connectivity, shouldn't the transparent tag (whatever the hell that does) and @s be enough? seems weird to block the many downstairs holding vaults doing their thing 09:07:37 -!- Pacra has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 09:10:55 I don't think 'transparent' has any effect on _fixup_stone_stairs 09:17:00 -!- Nightbeer has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 09:19:00 -!- blabber_ has joined ##crawl-dev 09:19:29 -!- blabber has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:19:40 -!- blabber_ has quit [Client Quit] 09:20:23 -!- Jatoskep has joined ##crawl-dev 09:20:44 at any rate after updating my copy of trunk I can't replicate getting only one > replaced, just very rarely both, which is fine for the vault so whatever 09:23:14 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:23:48 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 09:30:04 -!- absolutego has quit [Quit: leaving] 09:39:08 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 09:41:31 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 09:44:37 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:45:09 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 09:47:43 -!- Nightbeer has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:52:51 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 09:53:52 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 10:01:44 -!- simmarine has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:08:59 -!- blabber has joined ##crawl-dev 10:09:12 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 10:10:10 -!- syllogism has joined ##crawl-dev 10:10:47 -!- Ideocl4st has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:12:37 -!- onwiheg has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:12:42 -!- blabber has quit [Client Quit] 10:13:15 -!- blabber has joined ##crawl-dev 10:16:14 -!- blabber_ has joined ##crawl-dev 10:16:30 -!- blabber_ has quit [Client Quit] 10:17:28 -!- blabber has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:20:19 -!- herself has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:25:16 -!- blabber has joined ##crawl-dev 10:28:10 -!- Koolguydude has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 15.0.1/20120905151427]] 10:50:53 -!- voker57 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:51:50 -!- flowsnake has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.89-rdmsoft [XULRunner 1.9.0.17/2009122204]] 11:03:14 -!- keszocze has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:10:47 -!- Ideocl4st has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:10:50 -!- VolteccerJack has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:16:57 -!- Ideocl4st has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:17:56 -!- Flun has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:22:45 -!- Elynae has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:23:45 -!- hangedman has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:25:15 -!- Porost has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 11:26:48 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:27:17 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 11:27:50 -!- Sab0t has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:34:07 -!- hoody has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:36:34 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 11:36:53 -!- HangedMan has joined ##crawl-dev 11:38:13 marvinpa oh my god there are only three relevent items for tomb:$ and elf:$ that don't change regardless of how much transformation and randomization of glyphs there is, I am going to give you a 6+ 3- patch for no_pickup in elf and tomb and make fun of you in the comments 11:38:14 HangedMan: You have 3 messages. Use !messages to read them. 11:38:46 that's fine he will edit the patch to make fun of you before applying 11:41:29 -!- clinew has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 11:41:55 -!- bh has joined ##crawl-dev 11:42:00 moin 11:42:28 -!- blabber_ has joined ##crawl-dev 11:43:12 -!- frogbotherer has joined ##crawl-dev 11:44:37 -!- blabber has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:49:49 -!- Senri has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:50:13 -!- minqmay has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:51:27 -!- keszocze has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 11:52:34 -!- TGWi is now known as Elevenkutas 11:54:41 -!- rossi has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.8] 11:55:15 -!- Nilsyn has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:55:30 -!- Zephryn has quit [Quit: Jackdaws love my big sphinx of quartz. 123456890] 11:57:40 -!- Ideocl4st has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:02:41 -!- blabber_ has quit [Quit: leaving] 12:04:25 -!- Cheibrodos has quit [Client Quit] 12:07:39 -!- blabber has joined ##crawl-dev 12:07:43 -!- HangedMan has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:08:15 "The good news is that this is in, but the bad news is that it's already removed." -- the wiki does amuse me. 12:09:31 -!- HangedMan has joined ##crawl-dev 12:11:01 -!- Koolguydude has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 15.0.1/20120905151427]] 12:11:22 -!- Milan has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:11:36 -!- blabber has quit [Client Quit] 12:12:38 -!- blabber has joined ##crawl-dev 12:13:18 -!- blabber has quit [Client Quit] 12:18:35 -!- y2s82 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:19:22 -!- Zephryn has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:21:43 did I do http://pastie.org/pastes/4781077/text right? 12:21:48 -!- Elynae has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:24:14 -!- hoody has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:25:14 -!- Zephryn has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:25:22 looks right 12:25:35 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: butts] 12:27:45 How many mummy unqiues do we have? Two? 12:27:50 two, yes 12:28:33 What makes for a good unique? 12:28:41 being unique 12:29:13 -!- Jatoskep has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:29:15 <|amethyst> HangedMan: does that work for elf_hall_gauntlet_wide ? 12:30:07 |amethyst: no, because for no reason KFEAT was used for items there too, argh 12:30:27 -!- joosa has joined ##crawl-dev 12:30:52 would have to just remove those three lines for that vault to work like the rest 12:31:20 <|amethyst> what about the KFEAT: A = | lines? 12:32:11 <|amethyst> and KITEM: 6 = | etc. in elf_hall_gauntlet_narrow 12:33:17 remind me to curse at dpeg whenever he appears again 12:33:45 -!- Tolias has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:33:47 The design forum is comedy gold. For my own terrible idea: I'd like to make a mummy unique called Rutentuten. 12:33:52 shall I alter my patch? 12:33:58 HangedMan: he's posting on the forums right now! 12:34:28 in irc, I mean, since it's more convenient that way 12:34:35 -!- VideoGames has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:34:38 -!- thened has quit [Quit: thened] 12:35:02 Just start a thread "DPEG, GET IN HERE, KTHX!" 12:35:36 is he posting trash like "when i was dev there would be those other devs conspiring with players but i'm not telling who" again 12:35:53 send him a postcard "CURSES!" 12:36:00 i recently saw a post like that and really wondered what the heck he's thinking when writing that, if anything 12:36:21 ChrisOelmueller: no. He's explaining variance to someone who thinks we should get rid of weapon delay. 12:36:55 okay i'm not sure asking tavern for game design opinions is a better idea actually :p 12:37:28 The forum seems to have deeply awful ideas: https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=5826 12:38:04 Users browsing this forum: [...] frogbotherer 12:38:06 good 12:38:22 uh oh - what've i done this time? :) 12:38:41 i was just amused about the race idea and you in that thread 12:40:05 nothing to do with me guv, promise :D 12:40:07 1) Create a new item restricted race, 2) with a racial ability that replicates a level 2 spell, 3) and it's a glass cannon 12:40:26 4) And it has a shitty version of another race's racial ability 12:40:41 (i had been tempted to put a frog-bothering vault or unique in, but a race might be a bit much) 12:41:23 frogbotherer_forg_bothering 12:42:46 have personally carefully avoided making two overlapping crosses 12:43:22 -!- Zermako has quit [Quit: I love my HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <-] 12:43:35 -!- One-Eyed has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:44:30 -!- Turgor has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:45:10 -!- SurpriseTRex has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:46:03 what is item.special for randarts? just a random number? 12:49:40 -!- st_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:49:40 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 12:49:40 -!- Psyknux has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:50:57 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:53:23 -!- Zephryn has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 12:53:56 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 12:54:10 -!- Pang has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:56:27 -!- scummos has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:57:09 can I get some abyss'y feedback? 12:58:38 |amethyst: I definitely hosed up saving. There's a huge jump on load game. I may have incorrectly estimated my changepoints 13:00:04 -!- Psyknux has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:00:21 -!- randart has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 13:02:40 -!- SkaryMonk has joined ##crawl-dev 13:05:25 -!- Psyknux has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:06:53 -!- indspenceable has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 13:07:16 -!- keszocze has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 13:11:59 -!- Aresius has quit [Client Quit] 13:16:53 -!- randart has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 13:17:39 okay, i have no idea how to do this 13:18:37 randart jewellery used to be assigned a tile based on its color 13:18:48 but i'm making randarts all bright and still have 15 tiles 13:19:35 i tried using special but they all come out looking the same 13:25:58 Give Elf:$, Tomb:$ loot no_pickup (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=6251) by Claws 13:27:19 <|amethyst> bh: I can't seem to load any existing saves 13:27:48 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: bonghitz] 13:28:37 |amethyst: yeah, I probably broke compat. again 13:29:10 <|amethyst> if I start a new game as an AK, I get a jump after the first save/restore, but not subsequent ones 13:29:58 -!- nooodl has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:30:04 <|amethyst> if I leave and reenter the abyss, the same thing: a jump after the next save/restore, but not subsequent ones 13:30:42 that's awesome/sucks :) 13:34:20 any thoughts on a cause? 13:39:16 -!- Elevenkutas is now known as TGWi 13:39:17 -!- ussdefiant_ has joined ##crawl-dev 13:39:57 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 13:40:55 -!- VolteccerJack has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:49:13 |amethyst: I thought of an inexpensive way to make the abyss harder: When spawning monsters do some kind of rejection sampling based on HD and depth 13:50:01 or maybe something like pick_monster_with_highest_hd_from_n_monsters(ceil(depth/3)) 13:50:36 -!- Jatoskep has joined ##crawl-dev 13:51:37 <|amethyst> won't that greatly reduce variation? 13:52:14 hd's not the best of markers, golden eye bands are pretty bad without clarity or mr but they're only hd:6 13:52:35 hd "marginally better than xp" 13:52:40 xp "marginally better than conflip()" 13:52:56 -!- bracc has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:53:22 |amethyst: who needs variation when you've got ancient lich bands? :) 13:54:17 it seems like a lot of difficulty could be avoided if monsters just had a difficulty rating 13:54:35 -!- bataille has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:55:09 well that's what xp is 13:55:12 of course it's still not going to be perfect because of player builds etc 13:55:24 or should be, sometimes it's off 13:55:41 @??hydra 13:55:41 hydra (09D) | Spd: 10 (swim: 60%) | HD: 13 | HP: 50-89 | AC/EV: 0/5 | Dam: 18 per head | amphibious, regen | Res: 06magic(52), 03poison, 12drown | Chunks: 09poison+07contam | XP: 1214 | Sz: Big | Int: insect. 13:55:44 @??rakshasa 13:55:44 rakshasa (08R) | Spd: 10 | HD: 10 | HP: 39-73 | AC/EV: 10/14 | Dam: 20 | 05demonic, 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, see invisible, !sil | Res: 06magic(133), 03poison, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 1073 | Sp: rakshasa summon, blink, invisibility, teleport self | Sz: Medium | Int: high. 13:55:50 -!- moohaus has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:56:10 etc etc 13:56:34 I'll leave abyss monstering to someone else. 13:56:36 <|amethyst> ugh, what's going on with CSZO's network 13:57:06 <|amethyst> 240 ms ping and 20 to 30% packet loss 13:57:31 |amethyst: FR: clustered crawl servers 13:57:33 it's been really bad for half an hour or so for me, yeah 13:57:46 on and off at least, have just been checking every so often 13:57:50 ##crawl has been complaining a bit :p 13:59:24 can i... maybe get item.art_props as an int or something? 13:59:46 this is annoying :/ 14:00:56 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 14:03:35 anyone have a suggestion? 14:03:53 -!- zimvp has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:04:37 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 14:06:18 -!- elliott has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:08:37 should I disable food spawning in the abyss? 14:08:50 -!- Crayth has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:09:15 -!- bataille has quit [Quit: bataille] 14:10:34 -!- absolutego has quit [Quit: leaving] 14:14:13 -!- One-Eyed has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:20:20 -!- monqy has joined ##crawl-dev 14:23:50 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Saindo] 14:25:50 -!- Pang has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:25:58 -!- Neula has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:26:00 ugggh 14:26:01 ontoclasm: you can use item.rnd 14:26:07 i tried that 14:26:11 -!- nooodl has joined ##crawl-dev 14:26:18 yes, it needs a modification in get_item_info 14:26:47 it's only copied for rods when going from item_def to item_info, but I see no information leak in copying it for everything 14:27:09 <|amethyst> using item.rnd for weapons is a leak 14:27:18 oh 14:27:20 <|amethyst> since it's used for the auto-identification 14:27:25 well, can i do it for jewellery? 14:27:34 <|amethyst> should be fine, yes 14:27:35 ouch -- cszo *is* slow :) 14:29:07 ontoclasm: you'll have to add ii.rnd = item.rnd in the jewellery case in get_item_info then 14:30:19 <|amethyst> bh: major packet losss... filingf a ticket with the ispp 14:30:29 -!- TGWi is now known as Twelvekutas 14:30:45 |amethyst: is cszo in a box in your closet? 14:31:02 -!- Medar has quit [Quit: brb] 14:31:07 hmm, maybe item.rnd shouldn't be used for item identification, or at least the comment in the struct should be adapted 14:31:20 <|amethyst> bh: no 14:31:33 (it currently says "random number, used for tile choice" 14:31:33 ) 14:31:48 <|amethyst> my home ISP would complain about the bandwidth usage :) 14:31:48 neat 14:31:50 thanks 14:32:23 What I need to find is an apartment with utilities included. Then I can run some beefy server :) 14:33:50 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:34:02 <|amethyst> well 14:34:17 <|amethyst> just when I'm about to click "send" on the ticket... everything is working again 14:34:43 -!- Benhimself has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:34:43 |amethyst: that's a high level of service! 14:34:58 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 14:35:22 <|amethyst> they announced some network maintenance earlier this month, but nothing this week 14:35:32 <|amethyst> it looks like a router was flapping 14:36:42 <|amethyst> my packets are still alternating routes, but they're getting through in a reasonable time 14:37:26 -!- bracc has quit [Quit: bracc] 14:38:01 03ontoclasm * rb80780664d92 10/crawl-ref/source/ (art-data.txt itemname.cc items.cc makeitem.cc tilepick.cc): Make normal jewellery dark, randarts bright 14:42:23 -!- wasd22 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:42:23 -!- rossi has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.8] 14:43:12 -!- indspenceable has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:44:29 <|amethyst> edlothiol: there are complaints in ##crawl about white and lightgrey being too similar 14:44:51 -!- rufford has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 14:45:22 And giant leeches looking like worms. But with a lot of murder 14:45:51 <|amethyst> Red and lightred don't seem that similar to me 14:47:46 yeah, I've gotten that impression about white and lightgrey too 14:49:27 i would make lightgrey like aaaaaa 14:49:37 Ser svårt ut. 14:49:41 oops 14:50:13 is 'w' in white assigned to anything? 14:50:17 <|amethyst> I use bbbbbbb in terminal and it seems fine 14:50:26 also maybe change brown 14:51:36 to like 774422 or so 14:52:39 <|amethyst> ontoclasm: can you actually read that on a black background? 14:53:08 <|amethyst> remember that this stuff is used for text, too, not just glyphs 14:53:18 hm 14:53:46 Jaha, snart. 14:53:52 it has a luma of like 50 14:54:02 but you could make it a little brighter maybe 14:54:22 it's brighter than the current darkgrey and that's easy to rea 14:54:24 read* 14:54:28 I can make the colours for glyph mode and the UI independent, but I'd prefer to have it consistent 14:55:30 -!- y2s82 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:55:52 <|amethyst> yeah, consistent is be good 14:55:54 -!- indspenceable has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 14:55:54 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 14:56:11 <|amethyst> s/ be// 14:56:33 i think most of the other colors are pretty good, but if it were up to me i would make lightred a little oranger and the magentas more saturated 14:56:53 <|amethyst> don't have to make it oranger per se, just brighter 14:57:44 well it's already almost %100 red so it'd either end up pink or orange 14:57:44 <|amethyst> I use #FF6D6D locally, which is "pure" red, but looks orangeish in context anyway 14:58:08 <|amethyst> ("pure" as in hue, of course not saturation) 14:58:43 how hard would it be to make it an rcfile option? 14:58:52 <|amethyst> pretty hard, since it's a stylesheet 14:58:55 (i.e. let people set their own colors) 14:58:57 ah 14:59:05 <|amethyst> I guess you could add style="" tags 14:59:08 could set it from javascript, though 14:59:15 <|amethyst> s/tags/to the tags/ 14:59:21 <|amethyst> edlothiol: hm, I guess that could work 14:59:30 -!- Rewans has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 15:00:22 although, it won't work very well, since I can't actually set the class styles from javascript 15:01:09 -!- Aryth has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.0.4 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/] 15:02:44 -!- Pacra has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 15:06:27 -!- SteampunkDuck has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 15:06:34 <|amethyst> edlothiol: my colours are 000000 3f47ff 00e400 00dbdb ff0000 ff00ff bba70c bbbbbb 757575 8989ff 6fff6f 76ffff ff6d6d ff68ff ffff00 but those are by no means perfect 15:07:30 just pushed tweaks to lightgray and brown 15:08:11 03edlothiol * rd1de86a8073b 10/crawl-ref/source/webserver/game_data/static/ (enums.js style.css): Webtiles colour scheme tweaks. 15:10:49 -!- Tenkutas has quit [] 15:10:54 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.12-a0-605-gd1de86a (34) 15:11:20 -!- monqy has quit [Quit: hello] 15:13:47 <|amethyst> hm, I should tweak my colours a bit... lightgrey on brown, green on cyan, and magenta on red are quite difficult to see 15:14:54 <|amethyst> !learn add colours for y in {0..7}; do for b in 0 1; do for x in {0..7}; do printf '\e[%1d;4%1d;3%1dm%1d/%1d ' $b $y $x $x $y; done; done; printf '\e[0m\n'; done 15:14:55 colours[3/3]: for y in {0..7}; do for b in 0 1; do for x in {0..7}; do printf '\e[%1d;4%1d;3%1dm%1d/%1d ' $b $y $x $x $y; done; done; printf '\e[0m\n'; done 15:15:03 <|amethyst> (bash-specific) 15:17:18 I need to make some neat colors too... 15:18:38 <|amethyst> edlothiol: hm.. still seems kind of similar 15:18:44 <|amethyst> edlothiol: but better 15:19:12 -!- hayenne has quit [Quit: There is no dark side of the moon really. As a matter of fact it's all dark. The only thing that makes it look light is the sun.] 15:20:26 <|amethyst> edlothiol: I guess the difference is that in the terminal I also use bold for bright colours, which makes white stand out much better 15:20:26 http://ciembor.github.com/4bit/ 15:20:26 -!- VolteccerJack has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:20:55 ghallberg: that looks really cool 15:21:00 It is. 15:21:15 Saw it on reddit a couple of weeks ago. 15:21:53 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 15:23:51 -!- casmith789 has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 15:24:57 -!- randart has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:25:14 -!- thened has quit [Quit: thened] 15:25:15 -!- erisdiscordia has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 15:26:06 03edlothiol * r641ea97bc1c3 10/crawl-ref/source/webserver/game_data/static/ (cell_renderer.js enums.js): Webtiles: Determine glyph mode colour scheme from the stylesheet. 15:26:50 now one could actually customize the colours with a custom stylesheet 15:30:26 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:33:36 -!- Kishi has quit [Quit: blah] 15:35:30 -!- HangedMan is now known as GreatOrbOfEyes 15:37:26 -!- SkaryMonk has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:50:36 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Saindo] 15:50:42 -!- Pacra has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 15:55:30 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 16:00:51 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 16:01:28 -!- stenno has quit [Changing host] 16:01:48 -!- dtsund has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:06:09 -!- absolutego has quit [Quit: leaving] 16:20:16 -!- DracoOmega has joined ##crawl-dev 16:20:46 -!- Nightbeer has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:21:24 -!- blabber has joined ##crawl-dev 16:25:40 -!- Nightbeer has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:28:07 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:37:30 -!- Hungry_ghost has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:37:46 -!- _159 has quit [Client Quit] 16:39:53 -!- syllogism has quit [] 16:42:00 -!- Tenkutas has quit [] 16:43:30 03edlothiol * rc4326c8df1d4 10/crawl-ref/source/webserver/game_data/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Webtiles: Make it possible to choose between bilinear and nearest-neighbour filtering for the tile scaling; make the latter the default. 16:52:50 ??Czso 16:52:50 I don't have a page labeled czso in my learndb. 16:52:54 ??cszo 16:52:55 cszo[1/4]: New server in Pennsylvania, US: crawl.s-z.org --- ssh port 22, username crawl, key at http://dobrazupa.org/cszo_key (openssh) http://dobrazupa.org/cszo_key.ppk (putty), or use the {CAO key} or the password "crawlingtotheusa" 16:54:17 Why are human chunks contaminated? 16:54:59 -!- minqmay has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:56:01 -!- Namey has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:58:11 because humans are icky 16:59:54 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: bonghitz] 17:02:41 bh: all humanoids are 17:03:31 -!- Karethoth has quit [Quit: rebo] 17:04:28 <|amethyst> kobolds aren't humanoid? 17:05:04 well, maybe they should be poisonous and contaminated 17:05:34 guess they have been overlooked when the poisonous+contaminated chunk type was added 17:05:48 <|amethyst> though I guess they are one of the few early sources of poisonous-but-not-contaminated chunks 17:07:43 kobolds taste like chicken 17:07:53 and are therefore not contaminated 17:08:33 hm 17:08:44 looks like people really don't like the new mummy tiles :/ 17:08:57 -!- BlastHardcheese has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 17:09:00 and dd doesn't want to continue revising them 17:09:26 you can always reject submissions 17:09:46 yeah the feedback on it was pretty bad 17:10:18 well, the thing is 17:11:00 i don't just want to go back to old mummies, because guardians in particular were pretty bad 17:11:06 maybe i'll mash old and new together 17:11:13 -!- indspenceable has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 17:11:23 For what it's worth, I generally like the new ones. Some of them a nice bit, in fact 17:11:32 i don't see what's so bad about the new ones really 17:11:48 well, they're gnerally good 17:11:59 i think i might go back to the old greater mummy though 17:12:14 and maybe steal the old priest's mask 17:12:16 Haha, that may be my favorite of the new ones, even 17:12:24 thegmummy? 17:12:27 Yeah 17:12:30 xD 17:13:17 a lot of the bad feedback was about the standard mummy 17:13:26 I haven't been following the feedback all that closely, but I seem to remember most of the complaints being about the plain mummy (and possibly the priest) 17:13:47 i guess i'll take a shot at changing them 17:14:31 ontoclasm: you have to trust your own judgement. People always complain for everything all the time anyway 17:14:40 On a moderately related note, have I just done something wrong, or are the little display panel icons in tiles trunk messed up? 17:14:41 well, yeah 17:14:56 DracoOmega: make clean 17:15:20 -!- BlastHardcheese has joined ##crawl-dev 17:15:32 I'll give it a try 17:15:50 this is probably known -- http://i.imgur.com/NMeKc.png The ogre refused to advance toward me 17:15:59 oh, and i thought about the "racial weapon tiles are unclear" thing 17:16:21 i think i'm going to revise/ask other people to revise them so they are more "on model" 17:16:42 -!- Tolias has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:16:46 Yeah, the problem with this is that race is essentially the very least important thing about an item 17:16:56 yeah 17:17:11 they are pretty though 17:17:14 -!- monqy has joined ##crawl-dev 17:17:16 Yeah 17:17:33 I don't find it very hard to recognize them, though 17:17:36 I haven't played trunk enough for a while to really comment on personal experience, though. Not enough time to adjust to recognizing them, regardless 17:17:36 so basically i would make the orcish war axe (one of the worst offenders) more the shape of a normal war ax 17:17:50 edlothiol: no, you get used to them pretty quickly 17:18:32 there are really only a hdanful that i think ought to be changed 17:18:51 orc and dwarf war axes and dwarven handaxes are the only ones that come to mind 17:19:54 -!- Turgor has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:22:33 i think w_n's rings look awesome though 17:22:51 i'll have to redo the amulets too 17:23:51 -!- ctair has joined ##crawl-dev 17:24:18 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 17:25:06 -!- urthmover has quit [Client Quit] 17:34:17 -!- zizzyx has joined ##crawl-dev 17:34:39 is there any sort of central location for most game messages? 17:34:45 or some sort of identifier i can use to ack them all at once 17:35:39 i'm going HAM on muting messages i'm tired of but want to be sure my regexes don't clobber uncommon important messages 17:36:01 so i was hoping there'd be a way to run regexes against all game messages and see what matches 17:40:26 -!- HangedMan has joined ##crawl-dev 17:47:44 -!- Chozo has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 17:51:15 -!- HangedMan has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:51:28 -!- HangedMan_ is now known as HangedMan 17:52:14 zizzyx: no, there's no such things 17:52:28 -!- Sgun has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:52:31 so are the messages basically sprinkled in the logic? 17:53:03 many messages are not plain, but dynamically build 17:53:27 you can find some stuff like monster speech in the db 17:53:34 the rest is in the code 17:53:39 i was mostly thinking of help text and static strings etc 17:53:43 the kind of stuff i don't like seeing 17:53:59 thanks though i appreciate the answer :) 17:54:10 03mwclaws * rc3f69547bbf2 10/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/branches/ (elf.des tomb.des): Gives the no_pickup item property to the loot in Tomb/Elf:$ 17:54:32 oh btw the change in trunk where your character autotargets clouds to hit beyond max range 17:54:34 aces 17:55:25 -!- HangedMan has joined ##crawl-dev 17:56:12 sigh, did not realize that was going to be the (third) name for commits, even more things to learn from git 17:57:28 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 17:57:29 git owns 17:58:02 -!- zizzyx has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:58:41 -!- zizzyx has joined ##crawl-dev 17:59:45 -!- ark____ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:02:03 Entry vault error (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=6252) by Palyth 18:02:33 -!- ctair has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.89 [Firefox 15.0.1/20120905151427]] 18:02:41 -!- rossi has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.8] 18:04:34 -!- Cheibrodos has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:04:34 -!- Yll has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:05:50 -!- bh has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:06:07 -!- Codrus has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:07:35 -!- Pthing has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:08:07 -!- bracc has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:09:35 -!- vidiny has quit [Quit: there's a ps3 emulator out for android and iphone?] 18:14:10 03kilobyte * r627296ba6928 10/crawl-ref/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Crudely move defaults out of init.txt 18:15:04 -!- onwiheg has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:23:10 -!- Deathmic has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:24:13 -!- evilmike has joined ##crawl-dev 18:25:51 -!- pelotron has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 18:26:32 -!- idiolect has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:28:28 -!- Kalir_ has quit [Changing host] 18:28:54 -!- Kalir has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:28:54 -!- bmfx has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:28:57 -!- G-Flex has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:29:51 -!- G-Flex has joined ##crawl-dev 18:30:42 -!- Eronarn has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:31:13 -!- Eronarn has joined ##crawl-dev 18:31:47 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:34:37 -!- scummos has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:37:07 Maurice shouts, "HAHA!" Maurice gestures wildly while chanting. Maurice blinks! Maurice burns! You kill Maurice! 18:37:51 -!- Rofaner has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:41:41 -!- Robot2600 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:43:42 -!- Kalir_ is now known as Kalir 18:44:37 -!- Nightbeer has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:47:48 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:50:10 03kilobyte 07stone_soup-0.11 * rc0e8ef045bcb 10/crawl-ref/source/mutation.cc: Make breath attacks conflict with breathlessness. 18:50:11 03kilobyte 07stone_soup-0.11 * ra566278ee985 10/crawl-ref/source/ (8 files): Fix two crasher bugs when walking long enough in the Abyss. 18:50:11 03kilobyte 07stone_soup-0.11 * r7a1f4d841c11 10/crawl-ref/source/dungeon.cc: Fix vaults generated at some stages not being dumped. 18:50:12 03kilobyte 07stone_soup-0.11 * r57c2f627595e 10/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/branches/pan.des: Don't dump regular Pan exits. 18:50:12 03kilobyte 07stone_soup-0.11 * r928de91696c0 10/crawl-ref/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Crudely move defaults out of init.txt 18:50:46 -!- bracc has quit [Quit: bracc] 18:53:06 -!- temujin has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:59:51 -!- Kalir has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 19:00:40 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 19:01:14 -!- Loevon has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:04:57 -!- Jaxy has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 19:07:05 -!- eurtek has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:10:29 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: bonghitz] 19:14:28 -!- edlothiol has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 19:18:36 -!- naaaalis has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:20:49 -!- scummos has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 19:20:58 -!- Kuprin has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:32:57 -!- Kalir has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:33:51 -!- CannibalFerox has quit [Client Quit] 19:34:38 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 19:42:56 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:54:17 -!- Isabel has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:59:29 -!- flowsnake has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.89-rdmsoft [XULRunner 1.9.0.17/2009122204]] 19:59:49 -!- Poncheis has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.89 [Firefox 15.0.1/20120905151427]] 20:07:45 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 20:11:02 -!- HangedMan has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:14:25 -!- pantaril has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:15:49 -!- frogbotherer has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:16:32 -!- yxhuvud has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:16:59 -!- Codrus has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 20:18:10 -!- nooodl has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:25:23 -!- Wheep has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:32:11 -!- idiolect has quit [Quit: idiolect] 20:33:40 -!- Fhqwhgads has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20:34:06 -!- Lightli has joined ##crawl-dev 20:34:39 -!- scummos^ has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 20:36:38 Anyone here? 20:36:52 -!- _dd has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 20:40:14 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:42:11 -!- GreatOrbOfEyes is now known as HangedMan 20:43:53 -!- ajikeshi__ has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 20:43:53 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:47:31 -!- ophanim is now known as mikee_ 20:47:37 -!- mikee_ is now known as ophanim 21:00:05 -!- Nightbeer has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 21:00:43 -!- minqmay has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:05:21 -!- Serge_ has quit [Client Quit] 21:07:50 not me 21:14:13 -!- HellTiger has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 21:21:31 -!- Jatoskep has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:27:24 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: bonghitz] 21:28:38 -!- Twelvekutas is now known as TGWi 21:30:35 -!- RollieTG has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.89 [Firefox 15.0.1/20120905151427]] 21:35:02 -!- blabber has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 21:38:20 -!- Flun has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:38:56 -!- lorenz371 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:41:52 -!- ophanim is now known as afkanim 21:42:36 -!- trapworth has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:42:45 -!- ussdefiant_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:46:56 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 21:47:50 drunken dwarf (15q) | Spd: 10 | HD: 5 | HP: 16-39 | AC/EV: 2/12 | Dam: 10 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, 07vault | Res: 06magic(20), 08holy | Chunks: 07contam | XP: 130 | Sz: Medium | Int: normal. 21:47:50 %??drunken dwarf 21:48:24 why does this have rHoly? 21:49:04 does it have something to do with permaconfusion 21:50:25 -!- Roarke has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:50:26 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:53:02 -!- alefury has quit [] 21:55:17 bat (15b) | Spd: 30 | HD: 1 | HP: 2-5 | AC/EV: 1/14 | Dam: 1 | sense invisible, fly | Res: 06magic(1), 08holy | XP: 1 | Sz: tiny | Int: animal. 21:55:17 %?? bat perm_ench:confusion 21:55:23 pretty sure it has 21:55:27 -!- Dixie has joined ##crawl-dev 21:56:41 fr selfconfuse grants player rholy 22:00:17 -!- HangedMan has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:01:21 why does it grant rholy 22:12:12 -!- sacredchao has quit [Changing host] 22:14:07 I have no idea :P 22:14:44 it doesn't really matter, the drunken dwarf thing is just a stupid joke. if you get them, it's a lucky chance to rest up, buy stuff, etc 22:15:23 dwarf (15q) | Spd: 10 | HD: 5 | HP: 16-39 | AC/EV: 2/12 | Dam: 10 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors | Res: 06magic(20) | Chunks: 07contam | XP: 130 | Sz: Medium | Int: normal. 22:15:23 %?? dwarf 22:15:30 dwarf (15q) | Spd: 10 | HD: 5 | HP: 17-38 | AC/EV: 2/12 | Dam: 10 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors | Res: 06magic(20), 08holy | Chunks: 07contam | XP: 130 | Sz: Medium | Int: normal. 22:15:30 %?? dwarf ench:confusion 22:15:35 on an almost related note, is ?vuln supposed to dispel perm_ench effects? 22:15:55 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 22:16:36 well, it dispels enchantments... I think this is a case no one has thought about 22:17:10 also, it looks like regular confusion grants rHoly... I wonder if players can use this too 22:17:57 -!- trapworth has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:18:07 -!- Benhimself has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:19:05 do they only get rholy from being created with the confuse enchantment 22:19:19 yes 22:22:52 -!- afkanim is now known as ophanim 22:24:34 -!- blabber has joined ##crawl-dev 22:32:07 -!- simmarine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:34:04 -!- Chozo has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:34:25 -!- Turg0r has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 22:42:06 -!- Robot2600 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 23:04:55 -!- Dixie has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:08:13 -!- Flun has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:11:16 -!- Zephryn has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 23:14:12 -!- Wensley has joined ##crawl-dev 23:21:07 -!- Wensley has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:21:09 -!- TGWi has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:23:16 -!- Rewans has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 23:26:05 -!- Vizer0 has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 23:26:10 -!- idiolect has quit [Quit: idiolect] 23:27:33 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Saindo] 23:29:49 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:30:44 -!- pelotr0n has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 23:33:56 -!- Vizer1 has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 23:36:00 -!- VolteccerJack has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:36:31 -!- indspenceable has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:40:52 -!- indspenceable1 has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 23:58:24 -!- Turgor has quit []