00:03:32 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.11-a0-2445-g7b18f21 (33) 00:19:54 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.11-a0-2445-g7b18f21 00:24:47 -!- Nomi_ has joined ##crawl-dev 00:25:50 -!- Nomi has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 00:32:18 -!- Nomi_ is now known as Nomi 00:38:57 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 00:41:09 -!- Thann has joined ##crawl-dev 00:46:24 -!- Dixie has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:00:12 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 01:04:44 -!- Dixie has joined ##crawl-dev 01:19:52 -!- Thymos has joined ##crawl-dev 01:19:57 hi 01:20:21 I have an idea for a race, and someone said that it has a better chance of existing if I code it 01:20:39 I was wondering if you guys could give me feedback on if it's worth bothering and if it is how to start doing so 01:20:51 -!- G-Flex has quit [Quit: Time for us to bug out.] 01:21:11 -!- Thymos has left ##crawl-dev 01:39:05 -!- Dixie has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:39:34 -!- Dixie has joined ##crawl-dev 01:39:45 -!- Textmode has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 01:40:48 -!- Thymos2 has joined ##crawl-dev 01:41:16 Hi, I've heard a rumor that we're only limited to 27 races cap 01:41:18 is that true? 01:41:40 -!- ikeadelic has joined ##crawl-dev 01:48:15 -!- Thymos2 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:48:47 now thymos will never know the true answer.... 01:49:46 we actually intend to keep it at 26, so that everyone's new race could be the last one 01:53:22 -!- ark____ has joined ##crawl-dev 02:04:53 -!- evilmike has quit [Quit: something happened] 02:08:28 -!- SkaryMonk1 has joined ##crawl-dev 02:10:27 -!- Thann has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:23:37 -!- mikee_ has joined ##crawl-dev 03:12:04 -!- oberstein has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:24:19 -!- absolutego has joined ##crawl-dev 03:25:33 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 03:42:32 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 03:44:57 -!- syllogism has joined ##crawl-dev 04:05:07 Zannick: there's 33 races, or after dropping draconian sub-species, 24 04:06:12 this means, if some form of lava orcs gets in, and that djinni idea does as well, we'll be right at your magical 26 04:15:01 -!- alefury has joined ##crawl-dev 04:20:38 cut halflings, add nomes 04:23:06 -!- oberstein has joined ##crawl-dev 04:28:17 -!- Pingas__ has joined ##crawl-dev 04:31:50 -!- Pingas_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:32:15 -!- edlothiol has joined ##crawl-dev 04:35:24 -!- MarvinPA_ has joined ##crawl-dev 04:38:28 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 04:38:28 -!- MarvinPA_ is now known as MarvinPA 04:38:35 cut halflings, get quarterlings 04:38:59 hand and a halflings 04:40:06 let's have a compromise: thirdlings 04:40:37 harmonic serieslings 04:40:44 each time they die they get smaller 04:41:42 slime creature player race 04:42:04 or a jelly hivemind :D 04:43:10 they go around eating and splitting or turn into a spore, depending on available food, have only like 5 HP in active form, and when you die you respawn as another member of the hivemind :) 04:44:23 maybe the dumbest species idea yet! :) 04:44:59 counterpoint: felids 04:45:11 felids are not dumber than that :P 04:47:14 is anyone working on the djinni thing? 04:47:41 maybe kilobyte, but probably not... 04:49:07 let me check the wiki, it's been a bit 04:50:47 oh, reading about moon trolls reminds me of magic regen 04:50:54 i'm surprised that's not in yet as a mutation 04:55:46 well, that's a mixed bag 05:00:02 OSX builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.11-a0-2445-g7b18f21 05:55:43 -!- Nomi has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 06:32:23 -!- phyphor has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 06:32:47 -!- phyphor has joined ##crawl-dev 07:03:04 -!- Vandal has quit [] 07:08:15 -!- ToBeFree has joined ##crawl-dev 07:10:25 -!- Vandal has joined ##crawl-dev 07:24:41 -!- Claws has joined ##crawl-dev 07:24:54 -!- Claws is now known as HangedMan 08:24:27 -!- Patashu is now known as Patashu[Zzz] 08:30:31 Kidiri (L1 DrWz) (D:1) 08:34:09 wolf spider (16s) | Spd: 15 | Int: insect | HD: 11 | HP: 56-87 | AC/EV: 3/10 | Dam: 2508(poison), 15 | web sense | Res: 06magic(29) | Vul: 09poison | Chunks: 09poison+07contam | XP: 525. 08:34:09 %??wolf spider 08:36:09 wolf spider = scary spider 08:37:41 big bad wolf 08:48:39 -!- Grunt has joined ##crawl-dev 08:56:05 i wonder how new oka piety works in zigs 08:56:15 do you get showered in gifts? 08:56:28 not like it matters much in zigs i suppose 08:58:36 how does new oka work? the messages i've seen are "accepts" and "appreciates" iirc 08:58:53 but i was getting the former for killing hydrae in lair, so i don't even know 08:59:28 big threat = big piety, small threat = no piety 09:00:58 as a result, get showered with gifts in sprint 09:00:58 from what i heard you often get a gift after defeating/sacrificing a big monster, and you get almost no piety in orc, with overall piety gain being pretty similar in most places 09:01:44 warlords, sorcerers and ogre mages still give good chunks 09:01:58 is it only for sacrifices or also for kills? 09:02:24 xp gain of a branch is a reasonable approximation 09:02:25 both 09:02:32 nice :) 09:02:51 well sure, if you get a stone giant in orc you will get a lot of piety for it 09:02:57 unless you are dead :) 09:03:31 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 09:10:17 kilobyte: any plans to fix oka in sprint? 09:13:40 my experience is limited but it behaved pretty weirdly 09:14:18 is it determined by monster xp? not randomized at all? 09:14:18 do you have any idea how badly out of whack it is? 09:14:24 no :p 09:14:36 threat, ie, a function of xp 09:14:43 kilobyte: in zigsprint, extraordinarily, the others aren't much better 09:14:43 i was just curious, to be honest, i can't offer good feedback 09:15:04 i only rememer that i got thirty-one gifts after killing an alich in zigsprint 09:15:14 Idea: should there be a cap on the amount of piety that can be gained from one kill? 09:15:19 remember* 09:15:20 31 is good 09:15:33 i want 31 gifts 09:16:03 the best would be if you had open slots, and you got like 28 +0 gloves 09:16:13 haha 09:19:20 you can probably 3-rune with 31 gifts 09:19:51 oh by the way, does oka gift vanilla arrows/bolts after the changes to missile enchantment? 09:20:01 because i'm not seeing any, but it may be my luck 09:24:42 !won nonethousand 09:24:43 nonethousand has won 3 times in 135 games (2.22%): 1xDEFE 1xDsCj 1xMiHu 09:24:48 !won 09:24:49 absolutego has won 49 times in 476 games (10.29%): 2xDrVM 2xGhBe 1xCeSk 1xDDBe 1xDDEn 1xDDFE 1xDDSt 1xDEBe 1xDEFE 1xDgCj 1xDrAK 1xDrDK 1xDrHe 1xDrTm 1xDsAr 1xDsEE 1xFeCj 1xFeIE 1xHETm 1xHOAK 1xHOMo 1xHaCj 1xHaSt 1xHaWr 1xHuFi 1xHuWn 1xKoWz 1xMDDK 1xMfEE 1xMfFi 1xMiAs 1xMuBe 1xNaAs 1xNaDK 1xNaSu 1xOgBe 1xOpBe 1xSECK 1xSENe 1xSpAs 1xSpSu 1xTrAs 1xTrDK 1xTrFi 1xVpAE 1xVpAr 1xVpSu 09:24:56 oops, sorry, wrong window 09:25:05 hi 09:25:14 hi! 09:25:22 (i've never seen you play) 09:26:26 I haven't played very much since May 09:28:14 i checked your page on the scoring site and it was pretty empty 09:28:28 7 games, which i found weird 09:29:03 are cao/cdo both used for the scoring page? 09:29:08 or is it cao only? 09:29:11 should be both 09:29:13 i'm pretty sure it's both 09:29:21 at least it's worked that way on some account of mine 09:29:33 I usually play on the account "n1000" on cdo 09:29:44 oh that's probably why you never see me play, if you're looking on cao 09:29:47 aaah yes, i remember that 09:29:56 I would say 90% of my games are on cdo 09:29:57 nope, i play and mostly spectate cdo 09:30:06 ah ok 09:30:18 i remember that name, but your other account threw me off 09:43:44 -!- _wh1te has joined ##crawl-dev 09:45:31 -!- absolutego has left ##crawl-dev 09:50:45 -!- _wh1te_ has joined ##crawl-dev 09:50:45 -!- _wh1te_ has quit [Client Quit] 10:39:10 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.11-a0-2445-g7b18f21 (33) 10:43:07 -!- SkaryMonk1 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 11:12:37 Zammy (L21 MiDK) (D:26) 11:14:38 -!- ToBeFree has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:27:01 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 11:27:55 -!- jooosa has joined ##crawl-dev 11:31:15 -!- joosa has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:31:16 -!- jooosa is now known as joosa 11:42:33 -!- blabber has joined ##crawl-dev 11:45:58 -!- wh1te has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 11:47:54 !lm Zammy type=crash 0log 11:47:54 No milestones for Zammy (type=crash 0log). 11:47:57 !lm Zammy type=crash -log 11:47:57 1. Zammy, XL21 MiDK, T:70469 (milestone): http://crawl.develz.org/morgues/0.10/Zammy/crash-Zammy-20120625-161237.txt 11:52:37 -!- Claws has joined ##crawl-dev 11:52:54 -!- HangedMan has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:52:59 -!- Claws has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:53:16 -!- Claws has joined ##crawl-dev 11:53:17 -!- Claws is now known as HangedMan 11:56:21 -!- alefury has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Iceape 2.0.11/20120421074340]] 11:58:51 03kilobyte * r3f072b3d6429 10/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/branches/spider.des: Re-add a classical vault, adapting it for Spider. 11:58:51 03kilobyte * rc4ad58b86739 10/crawl-ref/source/ (14 files in 6 dirs): Rename floor_hive to floor_orc, as that's its remaining use. 11:58:51 03kilobyte * rb2c52dfd6a27 10/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/branches/spider.des: Replace at most one stair, to keep the vault connected. 11:58:51 03kilobyte * r8911cb2b838d 10/crawl-ref/source/religion.cc: An indentation fix. 11:58:51 03kilobyte * r1ab6798d9abe 10/crawl-ref/source/mon-stuff.cc: Disable Okawaru spam in notes. 11:58:51 03kilobyte * rf4961ac0c2e8 10/crawl-ref/source/mon-cast.cc: Fix a crash when a friendly monster with no foe casts Vampiric Draining. 12:05:00 -!- wh1te has joined ##crawl-dev 12:08:10 -!- Pacra has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 12:10:36 -!- blabber has quit [Quit: leaving] 12:11:16 -!- SkaryMonk1 has joined ##crawl-dev 12:11:40 -!- SkaryMonk1 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:11:50 -!- SkaryMonk has joined ##crawl-dev 12:18:32 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 12:18:51 -!- _wh1te has quit [Quit: leaving] 12:40:00 -!- Textmode has joined ##crawl-dev 12:44:57 -!- blabber has joined ##crawl-dev 12:49:11 -!- G-Flex has joined ##crawl-dev 12:50:12 -!- ToBeFree has joined ##crawl-dev 13:08:47 03kilobyte * r5b840f5a9623 10/crawl-ref/source/sprint.cc: Special-case Okawaru in sprint to give unscaled piety. 13:08:47 03kilobyte * r5ebcded2dcac 10/crawl-ref/source/player.cc: Fix the dragonskin cloak not giving rAcid. 13:11:04 LRD Secret Stone Door acts differently (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=5833) by XuaXua 13:12:08 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 13:22:19 -!- ToBeFree has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:50:34 -!- mikee_ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 13:51:27 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:52:04 -!- kek has joined ##crawl-dev 13:53:31 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 13:56:26 -!- Eifeltrampel has joined ##crawl-dev 14:18:04 -!- Fa has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:44:31 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 14:52:46 -!- Nomi has joined ##crawl-dev 15:03:00 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 15:06:37 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 15:06:37 -!- elliptic has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:07:29 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 15:07:29 -!- elliptic has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:08:24 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 15:08:24 -!- elliptic has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:09:13 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 15:10:31 -!- MarvinPA_ has joined ##crawl-dev 15:13:08 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:13:08 -!- MarvinPA_ is now known as MarvinPA 15:17:41 -!- rast has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 13.0.1/20120614114901]] 15:31:53 elliptic, MarvinPA: so, did you get a chance to play with lightning rods? 15:32:20 sorry for being annoying, but I'd want whether it can be merged for 0.11, or should be skipped or rethought 15:32:28 s/want/want to know/ 15:33:08 oh, I must have missed your message about them... I didn't know they had been coded yet :) 15:33:20 oh, ok :p 15:33:47 I harassed Marvin and others, somehow missed you 15:33:51 I probably won't have the chance to take a serious look at them for a few days though 15:35:11 no strict hurry, I think it'd be time to declare a feature freeze in a week or so 16:04:01 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.1 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]] 16:09:29 -!- Fa has joined ##crawl-dev 16:17:49 -!- Fa has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 16:28:23 -!- Textmode has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 16:29:04 -!- G-Flex has quit [Quit: Time for us to bug out.] 16:56:35 -!- blabber has quit [Quit: n8] 16:58:29 -!- st_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:04:25 -!- edlothiol has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 17:06:34 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 17:07:10 03dolorous * r0a0a2114c073 10/crawl-ref/source/mon-cast.cc: Add formatting fix. 17:08:12 -!- Pacra has quit [Client Quit] 17:11:56 -!- evilmike has joined ##crawl-dev 17:16:00 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:19:29 -!- MarvinPA_ has joined ##crawl-dev 17:19:30 -!- MarvinPA_ is now known as MarvinPA 17:23:49 <|amethyst> Grunt: hey, could you do me a favour? Could you go through the bugs on mantis to which you have posted patches that are not yet in trunk and add the tag "patch"? 17:24:06 <|amethyst> Grunt: no need to do this for things already in the "patches" category 17:24:08 |amethyst, sure, just let me figure that out myself :) 17:24:53 <|amethyst> Grunt: there's an "Attach tags" textbox, just type "patch" there or select it from the adjacent drop-down, then click the "Attach" button next to it 17:25:15 -!- Wensley has joined ##crawl-dev 17:25:20 I mean... which mantis entries have patches of mine <_< 17:25:20 <|amethyst> I'm not promising to get through them anytime soon, but it will make it easier when I do have time 17:25:24 <|amethyst> haha 17:25:50 I still have all the patches here, and I tag them by Mantis number, so it won't take long. 17:26:32 <|amethyst> Grunt: thanks 17:27:33 -!- Patashu[Zzz] is now known as Patashu 17:27:42 <|amethyst> also not necessary for "Upload" bugs 17:28:13 <|amethyst> though it doesn't hurt I guess 17:28:23 Okay, I think I got the important ones. 17:28:39 (The ones that are 'uploads' are already being looked after, to the best of my knowledge. <_<) 17:28:54 <|amethyst> thanks 17:47:29 is it just me or autoexplore stops when picking gold? 17:47:53 I saw that earlier too 17:48:00 might be related to the bug that makes it show up twice in item listings 17:48:03 -!- ark____ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:49:00 well, I've been trying to debug it, turns out in Stash::update(), the first time you see the gold, it has plus=0 and mons_type=MONS_PROGRAM_BUG 17:49:17 the second time, it's plus=1, mons_type=MONS_GIANT_NEWT 17:49:35 so items mismatch, verified turns false 17:50:51 could it be because of the union? 17:51:35 it is no different from a typecast 17:51:52 (int)plus == (monster_type)mons_type 17:52:35 what's the :16? 17:53:07 field size (2 bytes) 18:01:04 there's plus in the constructor, but not mon_type, and I can't add it ( 18:01:41 error: initializations for multiple members of ‘item_def::’ 18:01:53 does it need a special initialization? 18:07:10 er, why? 18:07:20 it already initialized 18:07:26 s/it/it is/ 18:08:01 to 0 18:12:16 -!- kek has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:12:21 -!- alefury has joined ##crawl-dev 18:16:00 -!- Zaba has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 18:17:28 -!- Zaba_ has joined ##crawl-dev 18:17:29 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 18:19:48 -!- syllogism has quit [] 18:25:49 -!- kek has joined ##crawl-dev 18:44:16 -!- Nomi has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 18:44:23 -!- Nomi has joined ##crawl-dev 18:53:39 -!- jooosa has joined ##crawl-dev 18:55:08 -!- kek has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 18:56:01 -!- joosa has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 18:56:02 -!- jooosa is now known as joosa 18:56:22 -!- MarvinPA_ has joined ##crawl-dev 18:57:45 -!- joosa has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:57:55 -!- joosa has joined ##crawl-dev 18:59:49 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 18:59:49 -!- MarvinPA_ is now known as MarvinPA 19:02:13 -!- _dd has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 19:22:21 -!- alefury has quit [] 20:22:02 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 20:41:11 -!- kek has joined ##crawl-dev 20:43:13 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:45:59 -!- varmin has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:46:40 -!- varmin has joined ##crawl-dev 20:48:32 -!- varmin has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:48:40 -!- varmin has joined ##crawl-dev 20:53:45 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 20:59:26 -!- HangedMan is now known as GreatOrbOfEyes 20:59:34 -!- mikee_ has joined ##crawl-dev 21:09:06 -!- hangedman has joined ##crawl-dev 21:09:39 -!- Pacra has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 21:15:45 -!- Wensley is now known as everyone 21:16:02 -!- everyone is now known as Wensley 21:19:21 -!- G-Flex has joined ##crawl-dev 21:26:30 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 21:56:42 -!- Wensley has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:06:43 -!- kek has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:09:03 -!- kek has joined ##crawl-dev 22:32:35 -!- mikee_ has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Now with extra fish!] 23:07:35 -!- Pacra has left ##crawl-dev 23:08:28 -!- ussdefiant_ has joined ##crawl-dev 23:21:07 Cause fear / mesmerise can leak info about an invisible monster (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=5834) by sgrunt 23:21:56 * Grunt would produce a patch for that bug, but isn't sure what the best approach is to fix it. Opinions are welcome... 23:26:26 -!- _dd has joined ##crawl-dev 23:26:53 -!- ogsus_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 23:29:00 -!- ogsus has joined ##crawl-dev 23:40:25 one thing to consider: if invisible things can't fear/mesmerise you, this means you could block them by casting invisiblity on them. that strikes me as a very non-obvious (and therefore bad) use for the spell 23:42:47 That thought had crossed my mind, yes. 23:42:58 There's a slightly less obvious corollary: 23:43:19 if the monster is already invisible but the player could see invisible, they can reproduce the effect by removing any see invisible items. 23:45:56 Actually, come to think of it, it's already the case that invisible monsters with mesmerise as an ability (as opposed to a spell) can't mesmerise the player. 23:51:27 solution: removei nvisibility 23:52:11 ??badirc[8] 23:52:11 badirc[8/18]: LOOK AT THAT INVISIBLE GLOWING THING LETS ATTACK. fr: remove invis or make it useful ?