00:01:20 <Gretell> Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.11-a0-2205-g046f759 (33)
00:09:45 <Gretell> Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.11-a0-2205-g046f759
00:14:57 <Gretell> nobo (L14 DEWz) ERROR in 'mon-movetarget.cc' at line 109: ZotDef: monster it failed to pathfind to (39,21) (the Orb) (D:1 (ZotDef))
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00:29:24 <Cheibriados> Cursed robe of Misfortune has a TODO tile (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=5745) by Chthon
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01:04:56 <Cheibriados> New Orc, Elf, Centaur tiles (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=5746) by roctavian
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02:42:46 <CIA-52> 03evilmike * ree0f5a453e78 10/crawl-ref/source/ (17 files in 6 dirs): Ice elementalist unique: Fannar. (sgrunt)
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05:00:07 <Gretell> OSX builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.11-a0-2206-gee0f5a4
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12:08:50 <Cheibriados> Give Berserkers a choice of weapon. (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=5749) by eeviac
12:08:50 <Cheibriados> 0-turn berserk (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=5748) by minmay
12:08:50 <Cheibriados> help for "stash-search.prompt" missing (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=5747) by ortoslon
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12:09:43 <|amethyst> thanks
12:10:13 <ghallberg> Is it possible to log in automatically on CDO?
12:10:32 <ghallberg> I seem to remember you could set some env-variables or some such?
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12:25:09 <|amethyst> would there be any objections to removing random generation for amulets of controlled flight (leaving the item in for existing games and for amulet of the Air)?
12:25:30 <MarvinPA> sounds like a good idea
12:25:31 <Henzell> MarvinPA: You have 3 messages. Use !messages to read them.
12:25:35 <ChrisOelmueller> would Lev be controlled after that?
12:26:22 <|amethyst> no, which could be bad for trog-ites
12:27:26 <|amethyst> except I doubt they actually use AoCF, so...
12:27:37 <ChrisOelmueller> who does
12:27:55 <|amethyst> I should watch my abbreviations---someone might think I'm talking about DoomRL
12:27:59 <|amethyst> ChrisOelmueller:  exactly
12:28:23 <evilmike> cFly is absolutely worth dumping
12:28:35 <ChrisOelmueller> need more bad amulets though
12:28:40 <ChrisOelmueller> or ambivalent at least
12:30:28 <evilmike> |amethyst: i've used boots of levitation + cFly, but this is just about the only good thing you can do with it
12:30:47 <ChrisOelmueller> boots of lev could just get cfly too
12:31:02 <ChrisOelmueller> running is better anyways so that wouldn't hurt imo
12:31:11 <ChrisOelmueller> and for abyss lev is "enough" too
12:31:35 <evilmike> they should cancel levitation when you press > or g (unless over dangerous terrain)
12:35:16 <|amethyst> I think maybe I'll it them in hangedman_abyss_rune_treasure_dump for now (it's intended to be full of useless items), and remove it as an option in the cloud mage's loot
12:35:26 <|amethyst> s/it them/leave it/
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12:40:27 <|amethyst> Hm
12:40:55 <|amethyst> removing them from random generation will also prevent amulet of the air from being randomly generated, I imagine
12:41:34 <|amethyst> or is unrand picked before subtype?
12:46:06 <|amethyst> ah, looks like unrands are handled before choosing a random subtype
12:58:18 <CIA-52> 03|amethyst * r5b657aeec82e 10/crawl-ref/source/ (dat/des/portals/wizlab.des makeitem.cc): Remove amulet of controlled flight, mostly.
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13:29:41 * Grunt tinkers with getting monsters to be able to wear rings meaningfully...
13:30:41 <Wensley> Grunt: ooh, if you do, please make sure their effects are nullified under suppression! :)
13:39:34 <kilobyte> |amethyst: unlike weapons and armour, get_random_amulet_type() affects randarts as well.  Aren't they supposed to possibly have cFly?
13:44:20 <alefury> ...why?
13:44:24 <Grunt> Here: Fannar, wielding a runed staff, wearing an embroidered elven robe and wearing a shiny copper ring (resting)
13:44:30 <Grunt> The bolt of fire hits Fannar.  Fannar is burned terribly!
13:44:49 <Grunt> (So the ring of ice he's wearing is doing its job, apparently.)
13:45:20 <alefury> :)
13:46:05 <evilmike> oh, that reminds me of something. if it's non-random, you should give it ISFLAG_KNOW_TYPE
13:46:19 <evilmike> (this will pre-identify his robe of cold resistance, but leave its plusses unknown)
13:46:33 <Grunt> Noted.
13:48:00 <Wensley> Grunt: does suppression block the effect?!
13:48:31 <Grunt> I'm still working on the whole thing, Wensley, <_<
13:52:13 <|amethyst> kilobyte:  I intended to remove it for randarts as well, leaving only the unrand
13:52:36 <|amethyst> kilobyte:  I guess allowing randart cFly wouldn't be bad
13:54:50 <|amethyst> could re-add a randart amulet of controlled flight to the cloud mage's loot
14:10:56 <Cheibriados> Monsters wearing rings (and possibly amulets) (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=5750) by sgrunt
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14:36:20 <CIA-52> 03kilobyte * rc56721eb37af 10/crawl-ref/source/database.cc: Kludge around coloured database entries not showing.
14:43:28 <kilobyte> galehar: I wonder, perhaps some other syntax than <aliased key> would be better for db lookups?  This one conflicts with colours.
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15:40:17 <st_> can we ban vaults with golems
15:41:08 <alefury> why would readding randart cfly not be bad?
15:41:52 <alefury> you removed cfly for a reason, right? does that reason not apply to randarts?
15:42:05 <ChrisOelmueller> but "air :(
15:42:37 <ChrisOelmueller> it will be utterly alone if the only amulet with cFly
15:42:44 <ChrisOelmueller> (i agree though)
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15:50:10 <Thann> |amethyst: sorry i wasnt around earlier! thanks for the info. i built the new system along side the other autopickup solutions becasue i figgured you  wouldnt want to depricate them.
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15:55:17 <Thann> and i had implemented a system where initfile.cc merged all of the other ways into my new way. but it took too long to load, so I made it so autopickup exceptions would fill the autopickup table when they were used
16:00:48 <galehar> kilobyte: sure, we can change it. Sorry, I didn't notice the colours. Any idea for another syntax?
16:01:31 <galehar> maybe brackets
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16:02:40 <Cheibriados> New Longsword tiles (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=5751) by dd
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16:19:11 <Patashu> <Gretell> onwiheg (L2 NaBe) is cast into the Abyss! (kobold) (D:1)
16:19:14 <Patashu> for your consideration
16:21:46 <MarvinPA> hmm, and?
16:22:39 <evilmike> just for fun i'll tv that. i bet you it was avoidable (probably wasn't using poison spit)
16:24:24 <evilmike> yeah this person deserved it
16:25:38 <MarvinPA> heh, and with 0.10 constriction he could even have escaped with a bit of luck, probably
16:25:45 <MarvinPA> well, a lot of luck
16:26:18 <MarvinPA> but it's more survivable than d:1 draining
16:27:32 <ChrisOelmueller> in general naga has a harder time running from d:1 glowing stuff
16:28:52 <MarvinPA> also poison spit
16:28:58 <evilmike> you can get unlucky with something around a corner. this one had room to spit poison (probably twice, actually)
16:29:29 <evilmike> anyway, i'm just trying to argue in a roundabout way, that d:1 distortion is fine
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17:14:57 <alefury> with the changes to glowing weapons its definitely fine
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17:55:10 <Gretell> nobo (L12 DEWz) ERROR in 'mon-movetarget.cc' at line 109: ZotDef: monster it failed to pathfind to (39,48) (the Orb) (D:1 (ZotDef))
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19:10:28 <Cheibriados> artifact name given as "storm bow"; should be "Storm Bow" (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=5752) by petzl
19:11:38 <ChrisOelmueller> wow i guess it's a compliment to the devteam that most recent bug reports are whining about names they find inconsistent
19:12:25 <Grunt> I don't know about "most".
19:12:35 <elliptic> is petzl a xuaxua alt??
19:13:49 <ChrisOelmueller> i wondered for a second too
19:13:56 <ChrisOelmueller> but it's not aggressive enough
19:15:24 <CIA-52> 03elliptic * ree7a1cff3385 10/crawl-ref/source/ (18 files in 9 dirs): Remove scrolls of detect curse.
19:15:51 <Grunt> o_O
19:15:51 <Grunt> Hey, I actually used those occasionally.  :p
19:15:59 <Grunt> But it probably does make more sense for them to go.
19:21:05 <Pacra> my favorite scroll! :[
19:21:31 <ChrisOelmueller> fr acquire remove curse
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22:03:52 <evilmike> Grunt: removing detect curse is a pretty long standing thing. I'd say there was unanamous agreemend
22:03:56 <evilmike> agreement*
22:04:14 <evilmike> (its weird when I have a cold and make phonetic typos...)
22:04:18 <Grunt> Yeah, I don't really have a problem with it.
22:04:27 <Grunt> It was situational use at best.
22:04:59 <evilmike> the main problem with this item is it was one that spawned all game but only had a use in the first 8 or so D levels. And that's being generous
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23:26:08 <G-Flex> anyone mind answering a question about the glowing/blue item change?
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